Open Forum: August 10, 2019

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  1. stackja

    Melbourne 1913 tree branch falls kills jogger.

  2. Bruce in WA

    I am currently using Torguard as a VPN. Anyone suggest another one ?

    I’m using Private Internet Access — seems OK, although sometimes speeds can drop.

  3. DrBeauGan

    Milagros turned up again today. She has acquired a boyfriend called Yunio. They cadged 7 cuc off me. I was teaching them the answer in English to the question “How are you? ”

    I told them it’s

    “I’m terrific. “

  4. Bruce of Newcastle

    Is Numbers actually Al Gore?

    Al Gore claims his climate-change predictions about 2016 have now come true (today)

    You have to admit there’s quite a similarity in thought processes.

  5. Eyrie

    I’ll vote for the digits getting his own thread. Should be possible to divert his posts there automatically I’d think.

  6. Some History

    Al Gore claims his climate-change predictions about 2016 have now come true

    Al Whore, who wrote and starred in the 2006 climate documentary “An Inconvenient Truth,” expressed optimism about minimizing the damage, however, and praised the field of Democrats aiming to unseat President Trump in 2020 for making the environment a central issue in many of their campaigns.
    “There’s both bad news and good news. The problem’s getting worse faster than we are mobilizing to solve it,” Whore added.
    “However, there’s also good news. We now have an upsurge in climate activism at the grassroots in all 50 states here in this country, and in every country in the world.”

  7. egg_

    I was 23 when I arrived in Vietnam…

    There’s a song in there somewhere.

  8. Woolfe

    If Viet was added to the badwordenator it would stop it for a while. Otherwise start number forum with open forum and push all its posts there, or alternatively just scroll.

  9. notafan

    Ankara’s aims are clear. It said last year it would return eastern Syria to its “true owners” and it is eyeing returning 700,000 Syrian refugees to areas along the border. Turkey’s leadership indicated on August 5 that it views an upcoming military offensive east of the Euphrates in Syria as continued its operation Euphrates Shield in 2016 and Olive Branch in 2018 in Afrin. In Olive Branch it secured a border area from Jarabulus to Al-Bab and then n 2018 it took over the mostly Kurdish area of Afrin. 330,000 Syrians returned to these areas, while around 150,000 Kurdish Syrian residents of Afrin fled. Many Kurds see this as demographic change, sending Syrian refugees who fled to Turkey from other areas of Syria, back to Syria but to Kurdish areas to change the border demographics and create a more pro-Turkish feeling among those who returned. Turkey says it is just creating security and helping Syrians go back to Syria.

    IS TURKEY BURYING SYRIA’S REVOLUTION BY USING SYRIAN REBELS AGAINST YPG?

  10. Knuckle Dragger

    For the love of God, people, think of the baby lambs (as opposed to grown-up ones). The following is an extract from a Letter to the Editor in today’s rag, and concerns shearing Australian sheep in autumn.

    ‘If you can’t stand the idea of baby lambs dying by the millions in freezing conditions, please don’t buy wool and choose vegan foods.’

    Mimi Bekhechi, PETA Australia

  11. Mater

    While it’s a little quiet here.

    1735099
    #3129121, posted on August 12, 2019 at 7:52 am

    Now which Australian commander was it who was quoted as claiming National Service had lifted the average IQ of recruits by 30%?

    I don’t know, Bob. Do you?
    The references you usually use for this crap, don’t seem to mention a percentage.

    “The advantages (of National Servicemen) were obvious to many commanders who believed their units benefited significantly from the qualities and enthusiasm most national servicemen brought to their new role of soldiering”.

    Fighting to the Finish – The Australian Army and the Vietnam War – 1968 – 1975 – Ashley Ekins with Ian McNeill – Allen & Unwin – 2012 – 689

    “The conscripts had experience, maturity and frequently education, rarely experienced in other recruits”

    Brigadier Colin Khan DSO. AM. Commander 5 RAR – writing to David Horne 26th October 1989.

    “The nashos were brighter, on average, than the voluntary recruits, and lent colour, irreverence and a touch of glamour to the Australian army”.

    Vietnam – The Australian War – Paul Ham, Harper Collins, Australia, 2007, p 171

  12. cohenite

    Al Gore claims his climate-change predictions about 2016 have now come true

    Not one have come true despite massive rigging and jigging of temperature records under the euphemism of homogenisation. In fact so many have been disproved as to make alarmism the supreme scam and con job it is.

  13. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘a touch of glamour’

    Charlie don’t surf!

  14. Some History

    Smoking is costing Cornwall 1,000 lives a year and costing £121million

    As well as adopting the declaration a Smokefree Cornwall tobacco control alliance has been set up to tackle issues around smoking. This includes representatives from environmental health, trading standards, fire and rescue service, NHS trusts and the Healthy Cornwall healthy promotion service.
    The group has a shared action plan which is looking at all the issues related to smoking in Cornwall from protecting children to reducing smoking in pregnancy.
    If taken forward the declaration will be signed by the council leader and chief executive and make tackling the harm from smoking a priority for Cornwall Council.
    The health and wellbeing board will consider the report when it meets on Thursday.

    https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/smoking-costing-cornwall-1000-lives-1957299

  15. Mother Lode

    ‘If you can’t stand the idea of baby lambs dying by the millions in freezing conditions, please don’t buy wool and choose vegan foods.’

    Yeah, farmers are notorious for allowing their animals to just drop dead and therefore unable to get any money for them.

    The one thing that PETA convinces me of is that meat is vital to brain functions.

  16. notafan

    ‘If you can’t stand the idea of baby lambs dying by the millions in freezing conditions, please don’t buy wool and choose vegan foods.’

    Well yes farmers always kill off their precious baby lambs by shearing them before winter.

    if only they could abort them

  17. Bruce of Newcastle

    Cornwall Council declares “climate emergency”

    Are they going to ban all cornish pasties except vegan ones?

  18. egg_

    Al Gore claims his climate-change predictions about 2016 have now come true

    He plugged the numbers into the Big Grant modelling computer?

  19. Tel

    Well yes farmers always kill off their precious baby lambs by shearing them before winter.

    Yer fundamental Sr Seuss Lorax Principle:

    * All farmers are intrinsically stupid … only a smart academic who has never farmed fully understands the concept of farming.
    * Sitting in a coffee shop is the very best place to become an expert in farming.
    * All farmers consume their own crop and never plan for next year … because stupid, M’Kay?
    * Humanity already died out thousands of years ago … because not enough academics in coffee shops.

  20. 1735099

    Good news from across the ditch.
    The video provides some interesting international comparisons.

  21. thefrollickingmole

    ‘If you can’t stand the idea of baby lambs dying by the millions in freezing conditions, please don’t buy wool and choose vegan foods.’

    Single issue fanatics showing their deep ignorance of not just farming, but the basic profit motive of business. Lucky we dont get exposed to any other monomaniacal manglers of the truth here.

  22. Mother Lode

    Are they going to ban all cornish pasties except vegan ones?

    I imagine all the people on the council will be rather pasty looking.

    Anaemic, with all their internal organs indistinguishable in form or affect, the substance of drift wood, the curiosity of a barnacle, the fibre of jellyfish, and the presence of a cold dilute cup of tea.

    When the bulldozers have finished building our dams, send them to Cornwall with their GPS pre-programmed to push those damp limp fops into the sea.

  23. Nick

    The need to build desalination plants ignores the fact that Sydney’s population has increased dramatically, without new dams having been built. But no, it’s all about climate doom.

  24. Roger

    Dave Sharma, who has more actual international relations experience than the whole of Morrison’s front bench – not to mention Simon Birmingham, whose chief talent appears to be complacency – has tweeted his agreement with Andrew Hastie’s warning on China.

  25. 1735099

    The one thing that PETA convinces me of is that meat is vital to brain functions.

    It doesn’t seem to be necessary for a first class cricket or football career.

  26. John Constantine

    Wastage nearly destroyed the greyhound industry, so wasteage becomes a weapon against the sheep industry.

    Survival rates of multiple birth lambs is not a hundred percent, the sheep brain does a good job to keep track of one lamb, let alone two or three. If one twin/triplet is weaker/duller/less enthusiastic than the other/s, its chances of wandering off and dying of exposure are significant. Predator foxes and crows pick these off in noticeable numbers.

    With large mobs running in big paddocks in Australia, the focus has always been on the average survival rate with full knowledge that 100% survival does not happen.

    The social licence to farm may well see us move to lambing paddocks fenced to exclude land predators, with drones to drive off winged predators, requiring intensive capital, supplementary feeding, artificial insemination of the entire mob on one day for tight lambing [ which then leads to needing a heap of small mobs in small paddocks to stop mismothering].

    Little lamb wasteage is the gotcha that their abc will run with next.

    Comrades.

  27. Bruce of Newcastle

    Here you go Numbers:

    Number of civilian firearms per 100 people

    NZ is on about 27. So with a population of 4,976,150 people, that means kiwis have handed in 100×10,000/(0.27×4,976,150) = 0.74% of their firearms. Huge! Especially since that 27/100 is probably just the legal ones.

    Seeing that a firearm probably needs to be replaced after 20 years or so, at a guess, that means the rate of buying would be about 67,000 per year. So Kiwis have sold to the government about one seventh as many as they are going to be buying in 2019. At this rate there’ll be more firearms in NZ after the buyback than there were when it started, especially since righties are going to be increasingly alarmed at Jacinda’s unrepresentative socialist government.

  28. notafan

    * Humanity already died out thousands of years ago … because not enough academics in coffee shops.

    exactly

    One of the things I love about Europe

    Thousands of years of farming and still productive and fertile

    how do they do it

    magic!

  29. Roger

    The social licence to farm may well see us move to lambing paddocks fenced to exclude land predators, with drones to drive off winged predators, requiring intensive capital…

    Daddy, what did lamb taste like?

    Delicious, son. Now eat your plant protein derived chop.

  30. Mother Lode

    not to mention Simon Birmingham

    I remember something from a comedy show years ago where they set the question:

    Which is the odd one out –
    Gorgonzola
    Cheddar
    Roquefort
    Birmingham.

    And the answer is of course ‘Cheddar’, as it is the only one that doesn’t smell disgusting.

  31. notafan

    My family use alpacas to drive off predators and their few orphans get taken home

    too valuable not to hand feed

    and they don’t shear new borns because they don’t get their advice from dallydoodlers in coffee shops.

  32. 1735099

    Here you go Numbers:

    Matters not.
    There are fewer legal guns (and no semi-autos) on the streets in Kiwiland.
    That’s an improvement.
    It means fewer suicides, fewer accidental deaths, and fewer gun homicides.
    Only on Catallaxy is that seen as a negative.
    That gives you an idea of the mentality of those who lurk here.
    It’s a very special kind of death cult.
    It’s a great shame that so many people had to be slaughtered for this to happen.

  33. egg_

    Canberra-based public servants are doing their work in a McDonald’s fast food outlet in Armidale because there is nowhere else for them to work in the northern NSW town where they are being forced to relocate.

    Isn’t that their natural habitat?

  34. Coroner concludes that death was due to suicide by natural causes.

    As he was such a serious threat, it is only natural, that he died.

  35. max

    This Kashmir stoush is interesting.

    India has relaxed a lot of regulations that locals fear will lead to an influx of foreigners i.e. Indians.

    The locals are M u s lims worried about jobs and becoming a minority in their own country.

  36. notafan

    It was the end of the world as we know it two years ago.

    Because chemists and vets can only work in Canberra

    Member for New England Barnaby Joyce said APVMA was a great laurel for the people of Armidale.

    “There are 130 people here now, and we all did that. I took some glee talking to the Canberra Times the other day, when I said ‘I would like to give you a personal thank you because all those articles you wrote deriding it were advertising.’,” he said.

    “The next step is to build upon it by making this a global centre of excellence in agrivet chemicals.

    “We’ve got the university, the CSIRO and now the APVMA, and I am now fighting to get the CRC research centre for agrivet chemicals in here.”

    He said it was all about attracting the very best in their fields to Armidale so that chemical companies themselves would want to be near the regulator.

    “People may say that’s far fetched, but it’s not really; BASF is already at Tamworth, so they are already nearby,” he said.

    Armidale’s Australian Pesticides and Veterinary Medicines Authority building opened

  37. Mother Lode

    Canberra-based public servants are doing their work in a McDonald’s fast food outlet in Armidale because there is nowhere else for them to work in the northern NSW town where they are being forced to relocate.

    Must be hell updating your Instragrams with all that activity going on.

    The drowsy soporific carpeted oases of Canberra are far more conducive to their efforts.

  38. notafan

    the other article from Feb

    no-one cares about the hot air predictions

    “The committee recommends that the Australian government takes into consideration the disruption caused by the forced relocation of the APVMA, and prioritises a fit-for-purpose and stable workforce,” the report stated.

    “The committee believes that over the next five years, there is a risk that the quality of the authority’s assessments will be affected by a lack of expertise and experience.”

    “The relocation has caused considerable disruption to staff and severely weakened the authority’s ability to operate effectively and efficiently.”

  39. max

    A noticeable absence from the CPAC conference was Cory. I know he’s recanted, but what a lightweight he proved to be.

  40. Bruce of Newcastle

    Having to work in a McDonalds must put public servants in terrible danger of being infected with free market capitalism.

  41. Mother Lode

    Having to work in a McDonalds must put public servants in terrible danger of being infected with free market capitalism.

    That was actually identified in the Risk Assessment for the move. High probability and high consequence.

    They got around it so Macca’s just sends a bill at the end of the month to the department, so the drones only experience is to go to the counter, demand something, and get it without any cost or obligation on their part.

    They would think they were still in Canberra.

  42. egg_

    They got around it so Macca’s just sends a bill at the end of the month to the department, so the drones only experience is to go to the counter, demand something, and get it without any cost or obligation on their part.

    And be rude and arrogant to the tea ladies staff.

  43. Infidel Tiger

    Alex Hawke MP

    Verified account

    @AlexHawkeMP

    A great sickness has been revealed in NSW Parliament in the minds & hearts of proponents of this terrible abortion Bill, gleefully cheering, clapping & celebrating at ‘winning’ a great ‘victory’. A tragic day when a Bill about the fate of unborn children is welcomed this way.

    I had always thought Hawke was a Photios styled nutter.

    Good to see him lashing the evil Berejyklian Govt.

  44. feelthebern

    ‘If you can’t stand the idea of baby lambs dying by the millions in freezing conditions, please don’t buy wool and choose vegan foods.’

    My feelings are more important than your facts.

  45. feelthebern

    This celebration in the NSW parliament reminds me of the champagne being drunk in Canberra post something to do with the morning after pill.
    Back then they wore t-shirts saying “Get your rosaries off my ovaries”.

  46. Mother Lode

    Didn’t they leap onto their hind trotters and start rubbing against each other with promiscuous lasciviousness when they passed the SSM bill into law?

  47. feelthebern

    What is it with Statists & their century old demands to reduce bio-diversity?

  48. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    This celebration in the NSW parliament reminds me of the champagne being drunk in Canberra post something to do with the morning after pill.

    “Emily’s Lister’s” toasting each other in champagne. Indeed.

  49. feelthebern

    Zulu, they were drinking real champagne too.
    From plastic cups.
    Sacrilege !!

  50. Nick

    Strange, don’t Lefties campaign about the farmers’ right to kill lambs ?

  51. Farmer Gez

    max
    #3129365, posted on August 12, 2019 at 1:31 pm
    This Kashmir stoush is interesting.

    India has relaxed a lot of regulations that locals fear will lead to an influx of foreigners i.e. Indians.

    The locals are M u s lims worried about jobs and becoming a minority in their own country.

    The highly subsidised economy is killing Kashmir.
    It doesn’t attract businesses because better returns are found in India before you pay the steep toll to get in. Worker and tourist movement is severely hampered by these tolls.
    It’s a boutique economy without the high end payers to make it work. Modi’s done the right economically for Kashmir but not for the religious set.

  52. feelthebern

    Will all this China talk in Canberra or abortion talk in Sydney or Trads house in Brisbane do anything to build more dams in NSW or QLD?
    Seriously, putting this shit on the agenda takes times time away from the real issues in Oz.

  53. JC

    LOl

    Who the hell is Donny Deutsch.

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
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    So funny to watch Little Donny Deutsch on TV with his own failing show. When I did The Apprentice, Donny would call me (along with @ErinBurnett
    & others) and BEG to be on that VERY successful show. He had the TV “bug” & I would let him come on though he (& Erin) had very little..
    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
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    ..TV talent. Then, during the 2016 Election, I would watch as Joe Scarborough & his very angry Psycho wife(?) would push Donny to the point of total humiliation. He would never fight back because he wanted to stay on TV, even on a very low rated show, all in the name of ambition!

    I count 4 slappings. 1 direct and 3 indirect.

  54. feelthebern

    Modi’s done the right economically for Kashmir but not for the religious set.

    Yep.
    But Kashmir has always been & always will be about water security.
    Alexandra the Great saw that way back.

  55. feelthebern

    Indian taking real control of Kashmir will be beneficial for the Kashmiri.
    Just like China taking control of Tibet was also good for the population of Tibet.
    The Dalai Lama & his monks used to tax the locals at 80+ per cent of their earnings.
    Idiots.

  56. max

    Alexandra the Great saw that way back.

    Explain, bern. You mean to NW India ? Rice growing ?

  57. Leigh Lowe

    Fuck I wish Twitter had been around in the 1940’s.
    Imagine the epic insults Winston Churchill would have dushed out at 11:00 pm, halfway through a bottle of brandy.

  58. Infidel Tiger

    But Kashmir has always been & always will be about water security.

    Yep.

    It’s why India and China will be at each others throats in the decades ahead.

  59. Infidel Tiger

    All of India’s important rivers originate in Tibet:

    https://twitter.com/DrPippaM/status/889894471122518016

  60. Top Ender:

    Foxtel might do well to think over their business model.
    They should offer you all the channels you want, and only the channels you want. Not some package made up of 50 various, out of which you only want 10.

    I’ve never understood why they do this. Loading up all the contracts with stuff you won’t watch is just denying Foxtel of the opportunity to know which channels to cut so they can shift resources to the channels that people would buy their service for.

  61. Infidel Tiger

    Live Monitor

    @amlivemon

    India saw a win-win opportunity to stress China’s relationship with Russia and act on Kashmir w/o much Pakistani retaliatory measures.

    What Did the Middle East Think of India’s Kashmir Change? | The Diplomat

    https://thediplomat.com/2019/08/what-did-the-middle-east-think-of-indias-kashmir-change/

  62. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    ‘If you can’t stand the idea of baby lambs dying by the millions in freezing conditions, please don’t buy wool and choose vegan foods.’

    sorry, but they so tasty!

  63. JC

    It doesn’t mean that, Zipperhead. It is extremely unlikely that banks here would pay you to borrow. The piece is sensationalized crapola.

  64. Michael Smith website.

    Why pay super when the end of the world ™ is nigh?

  65. notafan

    The Indian economy is nine times the size of Pakistan’s

    the is lamic effect?

  66. feelthebern

    Official rates will stay a 1%.
    RBA QE will drive the shorter term rates lower than that.
    I maintain the RBA has already started QE.
    But due to fears of screwing it up, they have not announced it.
    I believe they will have to report it in Oct (their quarterly positions as at the end of Sept).

  67. The Indian economy is nine times the size of Pakistan’s

    Are there more 7/11 stores in India?

  68. Infidel Tiger

    The Indian economy is nine times the size of Pakistan’s

    So is the population.

  69. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Zulu, they were drinking real champagne too.
    From plastic cups.
    Sacrilege !!

    “Emily’s Lister’s” have always possessed all the style and grace of a urinary tract infection.

  70. feelthebern

    Pakistan will be one the biggest beneficiaries of OBOR.
    On a GDP per capita basis over the next decade, I’d be long Pakistan/short India.

  71. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    “However, there’s also good news. We now have an upsurge in climate activism at the grassroots in all 50 states here in this country, and in every country in the world.”

    I’m unilaterally declaring a climate emergency… it was f**ing freezing this morning! more CO2 NOW!

  72. JC

    Here’s the problem for the RBA governor. We are not at zero to negative inflation … YET. However he’s signaling that if we get there they will act. Well yea ,okay, but this also could be interpreted as suggesting they will not act now – even though the inflation rate is well below the mandate. In other words the RBA is not respecting its mandate and will only act when a gun is pointed at its head… which means that’s where we’re heading because his signaling is ratshit.

    If I were the governor… and I should be, I’d be saying…

    Look you fuckheads, don’t even think we’re heading to zero interest rates and that I will have to do QE (because I have previously fucked up and abused my position by not respecting the legal mandate). Over the cause of the next few days – starting right now in fact- you will see that, my RBA means business and will flood the fucking market with so much liquidity you will finally realize that we not heading to zero or negative inflation. So go fuck yourselves.

    This is after I place a yuge short aussie position and short the 10 year to make a lot of money.

    That’s the signaling the leftwing asshat should be offering. Watch the 10 year take a huge dump if he said that.

  73. JC

    Bern

    They haven’t started it. The idiot is signaling to be very careful because they will. That’s terrible signaling because the market will exactly test him on this. He’s fucking useless and no wonder, seeing he did his Phd under the Krugster. He’s a krugster acolyte. In other words he’s a dickhead.

  74. Infidel Tiger

    Pakistan will be one the biggest beneficiaries of OBOR.
    On a GDP per capita basis over the next decade, I’d be long Pakistan/short India.

    China is running out of foreign reserves.

    It will never ever be able to pay for OBOR and feed its own people.

  75. egg_

    Sheryl Crow photographed on July 15, 2019 at the Four Seasons Hotel in Toronto.
    Sheryl Crow teamed up with Kid Rock back in 2001 for “Picture,” but now, she’s giving him some advice on kindness.

    Early on Friday (Aug. 9), Kid Rock shared a degrading opinion on Taylor Swift, writing that she “wants to be a democrat because she wants to be in movies….period.”

    “And it looks like she will suck the door knob off Hollyweird to get there,” he continued. “Oldest move in the book. Good luck girl.”

    Crow replied to the tweet, encouragin him to “Spread love. Not hate. End of subject.”

  76. JC

    China is running out of foreign reserves.

    Are you choking on s sandwich. China is NOT running out of reserves. Stop!

  77. mh

    Stereotyping much?

    Trump War Room
    @TrumpWarRoom
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    Joe Biden: “Poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids.”
    https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1159631109677867009?s=20

  78. feelthebern

    India is very so concerned about the Pakistani port cities being one of the ocean spurs of OBOR, they are spending billions in Chabahar to open/expand their direct route into Iran.

  79. feelthebern

    Is there a food shop in China where everyone lines up for their bowl of rice?
    Saying China can’t feed it’s people is like saying Australia won’t be able to feed its people.
    It’s not like the Great Leap Forward (sarc) or the Cultural Revolution (also sarc) up there anymore.

  80. Infidel Tiger

    Daniel Lacalle

    Verified account

    @dlacalle_IA
    Follow Follow @dlacalle_IA

    China’s need for US dollars to repay debts, pay for imports and fund Belt and Road initiative projects may exceed its US$3.1 trillion in foreign exchange reserves.

    Is China’s US dollar shortage risk forcing companies to sell overseas assets?

    https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3015049/chinas-concern-over-possible-us-dollar-shortage-risk-forcing

    China is melting down.

  81. feelthebern

    Learn Mandarin IT.
    Or move to Kuta.

  82. Mother Lode

    You mean the Biden who said:

    I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that’s a storybook, man.

    Amiright?

  83. JC

    Daniel Lacalle

    And who is he, may I ask?

  84. feelthebern

    Stop posting China news from Alex Jones supporters.

  85. feelthebern

    Daniel Lacalle

    Alex Jones contributor.

  86. Infidel Tiger

    Learn Mandarin IT.

    Anyone who believes the future involves speaking Mandarin or doing business in China has lost badly.

    The Chinks will have to kneel.

  87. notafan

    You are right IT

    there are more musl ims in India than in Pakistan too.

  88. JC

    feelthebern
    #3129427, posted on August 12, 2019 at 2:58 pm

    Daniel Lacalle

    Alex Jones contributor.

    Artie, you have to stop now. Do not end up like Bridie. Just stop listen to uncle JC.

  89. max

    Should Andrew Hastie be saying what he has been saying ?

    ABC News poll.

    Morrison keeping schtum.

  90. egg_

    China is melting down.

    Iron fist meets US Real Estate Developer?

  91. Infidel Tiger

    JC, feeltherbern has bet his house on China

    He is of course wrong and lying.

    Lacalle is a highly respected economist and analyst.

  92. JC

    At a crunch,. China can feed itself, Artie.

    Over the past ten years, China’s food imports have increased from approximately $6 million in 2005 to $300 million in 2015. China’s food imports make up 6.7 percent of its total merchandise imports, placing it ahead of the United States (5.7 percent), India (5.6 percent), and Brazil (5.1 percent).

    and

    China can meet the demands of its growing population without importing grain from elsewhere, says Peng Gong. … In fact, for the past 60 years, China has, with just 7–8% of the globe’s agricultural land, fed about 22% of the world’s population. “It is not a matter of whether China can feed itself.

    and

    China needs no foreign help to feed itself : Nature News
    https://www.nature.com/articles/474007a

  93. stackja

    Red China under Xi might go the way of Mao. Then what? Trusting Chinese Communist Party? I wouldn’t.

  94. JC

    Lacalle is a highly respected economist and analyst.

    Look, if Alex Jones says he’s good, then it must be right.

  95. feelthebern

    The anti-Chinese sentiment here is quite bizarre.
    Without our Chinese friends buying our shit, Australia would be bankrupt.

  96. jo

    sorry, but they so tasty!

    Taste so much better than vegans.

  97. Infidel Tiger

    China can meet the demands of its growing population without importing grain from elsewhere, says Peng Gong. … In fact, for the past 60 years, China has, with just 7–8% of the globe’s agricultural land, fed about 22% of the world’s population. “It is not a matter of whether China can feed itself.

    Bwahahaha!

    There are no American infidels in Baghdad. Never!.

  98. JC

    Hey Stack.

    There were two accidents on Colorado Hwys this evening. Get onto it. Also, how often do you eat eggs?

  99. feelthebern

    You’re a nong IT.
    A funny nong.
    But still a nong.

  100. feelthebern

    IT, what do you do when you see a Chinese chap in Perth, buying goods & services, supporting your over priced, boom-bust, mining driven economy?

  101. stackja

    JC posted about itself ‘I am boring, not nice’

  102. wivenhoe

    Are the public servants working from McDonalds asking Would you like fries with that?

  103. JC

    Artie, stop worrying about China.

    Buy with your ears pinned back after a hard Brexit announcement…. UK stocks. Buy with your ears pinned back and do so in terms of the pound too.

  104. notafan

    Very unlucky woman Stackja

    Seems to happen more often than you would expect

    I wonder if having headphones on is a factor?

    falling tree story

  105. JC

    And we think China is a terrible regime.

    Gender reassignment? They’re castrating children

    “Castrating children” is the phrase used by pediatrics professor John Whitehall to describe unscientific experimentation on youth in the name of transgenderism. Taxpayer-funded organisations are pushing the barrow for transpolitics.

  106. Farmer Gez

    At a crunch,. China can feed itself, Artie.

    Sorry JC but Peng Pong (imaging scientist) would know jack shit about the food trade.

    Remote sensing always needs ground truthing to relate the data to actual results. The Chinese control this aspect and the data from China is regarded with little respect.

    They need food in big lumps at various times and it’s all weather related, like us.

  107. Bruce in WA

    A few threads back, someone and well know who) posted a link saying American gun sales were down and it seemed they were starting to see reason (“his” reason).

    BS

    Gun sales surge in wake of mass shootings

    According to the latest FBI stats, the gun sale surge is largely being fueled by first-timers as reported by Dann Cuellar during Action News at 11 on August 9, 2019.
    By Dann Cuellar
    Sunday, August 11, 2019 1:52AM

    PHILADELPHIA (WPVI) — Marcella Santana, a retired registered nurse from Mount Airy, spent part of her Friday at the Philadelphia Gun Range.

    She was not alone.

    The Spring Garden location was filled with people from all walks of life shooting targets, some with vast experience and others who are just learning how to shoot.

    Santana is a first-time gun owner.

    “I’ve never thought about getting a gun before, but just with everything going on is just concerning,” said Santana.

    Operator Yuri Zalzan ran down a list of people who visit the Gun Range you may never have expected.

    “I get a lot of college professors, I get teachers, I get high school principals, people that you would never equate with handguns,” said Zalzman.

    According to FBI statistics, the number of criminal background checks for people wanting to purchase a gun or get a permit has surged in the last four months. It’s been a 13% increase over the same period last year; that is more than a million additional federal background checks for gun owners.

    Connor Efimov of Bucks County said he doesn’t want to be unarmed in the remote chance he may be the target of a mass shooter.

    “Nobody needs to be a hero, but if the time comes, you feel much better about yourself as opposed to just being another target,” said Efimov.

    But some gun owners said it’s not just the mass shootings, but just crime itself that has caused them to own and learn how to shoot a gun.

    “Anything could happen at any time so you just have to be prepared for everything, but you gotta do it the right way,” said Cornell Kelley of West Philadelphia.

    And Santana added, “If I have to, at least I’ll feel secure in the fact I know how to do that and know how to be safe.”

    Zalzman is intrigued by the notion of red flag legislation being talked about in Washington.

    “It’s not a bad idea because we can’t keep blaming an inanimate object. We have to finally turn around and say, ‘Well, who’s behind the machine? And how do we turn and head them off at the path?’” he said.

    But he and others worry such laws could be a very slippery slope.

    “With these new red flag laws, the big issue is not that you’re messing with the 2nd amendment, you’re starting to mess with the 4th and 5th amendments, right to due process, preventing the government from searching your property and taking your property without consent,” said Efimov.

    And you can expect that debate will continue in the coming months ahead, not just in Washington, but across the country.

  108. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    max

    Cory should be shunned.

    His efforts, in toto, were worse than the “Joh for PM” nonsense.

  109. feelthebern

    The Chinese, who have been farming in China for 10x as long as farming in Australia, but they know nothing about the food trade?

  110. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    feelthebern
    #3129438, posted on August 12, 2019 at 3:06 pm

    The anti-Chinese sentiment here is quite bizarre.
    Without our Chinese friends buying our shit, Australia would be bankrupt.

    The proponents of such foolishness are lefty Maoists ROLCONning their way around the interwebs.

  111. JC

    Gez

    Just over 6% of their imports is food and I bet most of it is presumed to be high quality junk coming from the West.

    Understand the argument. Artie says the Chinese will run out of Dollars and be unable to feed themselves. I believe this to be bullshit.

  112. notafan

    I believe Chinese farming had a huge set back under Mao and the great leaps forward which killed millions, and not just sparrows.

  113. mh

    Daniel Lacalle
    @dlacalle_IA
    UK 🇬🇧 Interesting analysis. The Q2 drop in GDP was driven by inventories, which will boost growth more in Q3 than in Q1

    Households’ spending is growing, supported by income gains.

    Expect a 0.4% quarter-on-quarter rise in GDP in Q3.
    https://twitter.com/dlacalle_IA/status/1160660093832257537?s=20

  114. feelthebern

    I believe Chinese farming had a huge set back under Mao and the great leaps forward which killed millions, and not just sparrows.

    I also believe the Hiroshima life insurance industry had a huge set back in the 1940’s.

  115. notafan

    Comunists being loose with the truth, who would have thunk it?

    With the crisis of food shortages that resulted from the two Chinese revolutions and the rapidly growing population, a reform was needed that could ensure stable production of food. However, the pace of reforms was very slow. With the aim of surpassing Great Britain and catching up with America, the Great Leap Forward led by Mao Zedong from 1958 to 1962 focused on heavy industry.[2] Producing steel to make military equipment became the highest priority and other economic sectors related to the improvement of livelihood of the people such as agriculture and light industry were undervalued. To boost the spirit and morale of the people, exaggerated yields were reported. This led to the Great Chinese Famine in 1959 – one of the most deadly famines in history. According to research led by Yang Jisheng, an estimated 36 million people died of starvation during the famine period, while other western researchers approximate the casualties to be as high as 45 million

    rural reform

  116. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    feelthebern
    #3129455, posted on August 12, 2019 at 3:27 pm

    The Chinese, who have been farming in China for 10x as long as farming in Australia, but they know nothing about the food trade?

    There is a movie about white people who fantasise about such nonsense, re: teaching the lesser people a few things about agriculture.

    Basmati Blues

    ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT RICE, JUST LET ME KNOW!

  117. feelthebern

    Daniel Lacalle is a loon.
    Seriously, he’d check his own stool looking for economic data.
    A serious nut bag.
    Not trusted by the serious folk.

  118. egg_

    They need food in big lumps at various times and it’s all weather related, like us.

    Different regions have different seasons too, viz pulses trading, etc.

  119. feelthebern

    How does 40-50mill Chinese dying in the late 50’s early 60’s have anything to do with Chinese farming practices today?

  120. notafan

    Food production has risen at the expense of the environment: research shows groundwater in northern China is being withdrawn and the water table is falling. Soil degradation is being observed in many regions and excessive use of chemicals has caused serious pollution. This has created tremendous challenges to achieving sustainable rural development.

    China’s agricultural reform grows bolder

  121. Infidel Tiger

    Sorry, I stand corrected.

    China is a wonderful benign country and not at all a giant kleptocracy ponzi prison camp with global ambitions that will adversely affect the lives of nearly every non-Chink person on earth.

    They also have unlimited USD’s and can feed themselves a thousand times over.

  122. feelthebern

    notafan is correct.
    The biggest issue with farming in China is water.
    And heavy metals.

    No, not Metallica.
    The other kind.

  123. feelthebern

    IT, China is a fvcked up place.
    But it aint going broke.

  124. notafan

    Because there was a comparison made to food production in Australia, yet in recent history China has made appalling decisions that has resulted in the death of millions, and I think they still tell untruths.

  125. mh

    No country’s economy has ever collapsed due to a strong currency. Many, though, have destroyed their economy weakening their currency.

    — Daniel Lacalle

  126. Infidel Tiger

    How does 40-50mill Chinese dying in the late 50’s early 60’s have anything to do with Chinese farming practices today?

    The 100,000,000 Mao offed may have had a bit of farming experience.

    China now has to lease great swathes of eastern Russian farmland to feed its people.

    Be interesting if the Russkies kicked them out or they rand out of money to pay the bill.

  127. JC

    Artie

    People have gone broke trying to predict China going tits over. It may happen, but it’s also an impossible event to predict. They have issues and so do we. We’ve allowed possibly 300 little boys to be castrated over the past three of so years in the name of science. Think about that and how humane we are compared to those big bad Chinese.

  128. China is a wonderful benign country and not at all a giant kleptocracy ponzi prison camp with global ambitions that will adversely affect the lives of nearly every non-Chink person on earth.

    A place where every person is happy to work for The Greater Good.

  129. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    China is a wonderful benign country and not at all a giant kleptocracy ponzi prison camp with global ambitions that will adversely affect the lives of nearly every non-Chink person on earth.

    Yes, okay. I am pretty sure nearly all will agree.

    They also have unlimited USD’s and can feed themselves a thousand times over.

    The “and marry our cousins” rider. No and no.

  130. JC

    Oh and we’re also jailing religious leaders too with flimsy evidence and hate based ideology.

  131. notafan

    The 100,000,000 Mao offed may have had a bit of farming experience.

    On the bright side they probably increased soil fertility.

  132. Mother Lode

    With absolutely no evidence one way or the other, I would venture that food security would have been one of the first objectives of the Communist government in China. That they got it wrong under Mao is proof of bureaucratic incompetence rather than lack of policy.

    About 20 years ago the Japanese rice crop was way under and they had to import rice for (what they called) the first time. It was an enormous issue for them. There were collective memories of shortages after WW2 – which was also when they greatly expanded their consumption of whale.

    The government very reluctantly authorised the importing of rice – from Thailand. The Thai rice was a long grain variety which required different cooking conditions and did not quite gel with Japanese recipes. My impression was that they did not want Japanese people getting too used to foreign rice.

    They import all other foods with no problem.

    Not starving would be one of the oldest planks of the deal between the government and the populace.

    Domestic production might be more bland, and if relying on that alone shortfalls might increase prices, but I don’t really foresee anything as drastic as food riots.

  133. JC

    A place where every person is happy to work for The Greater Good.

    Become famous at say sport then go on Twitter and suggest gays will go to hell. See how free you feel after you’ve been unceremoniously fired.

  134. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    We’ve allowed possibly 300 little boys to be castrated over the past three of so years in the name of science.

    Oh and we’re also jailing religious leaders too with flimsy evidence and hate-based ideology.

    Damn man. We can’t lecture to anyone.

  135. feelthebern

    The Japanese have more land leases in Siberia than the Chinese.
    Are they getting kicked out too?

  136. Infidel Tiger

    Happy for the Chinese to be lifted out of poverty.

    Far less happy about what they are doing in the Pacific, Africa and indeed in our own country.

    There future ambitions are not in our interests.

  137. feelthebern

    See this is what the Cat is about.
    Robust economic & political arguments.

    & thermomixes.
    & ball sack waxing.

  138. JB of Sydney/Shanghai

    A lot of weird ideas about horrible China, and its people, on the Cat? Why is this so, I wonder? Basic ignorance, at a guess, most Cats not being swayed by the opinions of others, or our wonderful media.

    It might be an eye opener for some bloggers to actually visit China, maybe even meet some people from China, and get to know them. (I don’t mean just having a feed at the local Chinese restaurant , either.)

    Strange as it may seem, Capitalism seems to be doing OK in China, compared to here.

  139. feelthebern

    We’ll buy all that stuff back off the Chinese.
    Just like we did with the Japs.

  140. Infidel Tiger

    The Japanese have more land leases in Siberia than the Chinese.
    Are they getting kicked out too?

    As long as they can pay the bill and don’t upset St Petersburg.

  141. JC

    JB

    No Chinese meddling please. We can make our own mind up without some Shanghai troll farm interfering at the Cat.

  142. feelthebern

    As I type, one of my Chinese born staff has just come back with bubble teas.
    I’m drinking a orange fruit tea with taro balls.

  143. feelthebern

    As I type, one of my Chinese born staff has just come back with bubble teas.
    I’m drinking a orange fruit tea with taro b*lls.

  144. Infidel Tiger

    A lot of weird ideas about horrible China, and its people, on the Cat? Why is this so, I wonder? Basic ignorance, at a guess, most Cats not being swayed by the opinions of others, or our wonderful media.

    It might be an eye opener for some bloggers to actually visit China, maybe even meet some people from China, and get to know them. (I don’t mean just having a feed at the local Chinese restaurant , either.)

    Strange as it may seem, Capitalism seems to be doing OK in China, compared to here.

    Once again we see the myopia of the econometric mindset. The inability to separate life from anything that isn’t consumerism.

    No one has anything against Johnny Chinaman in the street, it’s his government that worries us.

    They have nice shopping malls in Riyadh too.

  145. JC

    Artie

    I fucking bet you can buy a vape that looks like Cig and e-juice with nicotine in it in China… unlike here.

    You’re looking at the wrong place in order to unearth where this country’s immediate danger is coming from. No one does virtue signaling better than Australia. no one.

  146. Infidel Tiger

    As I type, one of my Chinese born staff has just come back with bubble teas.
    I’m drinking a orange fruit tea with taro b*lls.

    Do you rollerblade as well?

  147. JC

    No one has anything against Johnny Chinaman in the street, it’s his government that worries us.

    And your government, or rather your administrative state, doesn’t worry you, right? Chinese have not progressively and systemically infringed on our rights over the past 40 years like these/our leftist canutes.

  148. Lizie:

    ps. I don’t want Numbers banned; I don’t like banning anyone. However, a limit to the Vietnam insertions would be a relief.

    Numbers does two things here:
    1. Shows up the contributors who have poor impulse control.
    2. Continues to gain evidence for a legal effort to get the Cat shut down.
    Limiting numbers to one post per day would see the site crash as he tried to post three thousand words onto one page.

  149. Top Ender

    What the hell is a bubble tea?

  150. feelthebern

    What the hell is a bubble tea?

    Go to Haymarket in Sydney.
    There is a million bubble tea shops.
    Right next to the hotpot restaurants.

  151. notafan

    JC isn’t saying but your government does this! Kind of irrelevant?

    Lots of Chinese don’t trust Chinese capitalism, it is why they employ personal shoppers to buy baby milk.

    as for knowing mainland Chinese, I have some in my family, bless them.

    They prefer to live here.

  152. Top Ender

    Texas horseman chases black man and son in car down road, making “threatening” gestures and saying nasty things.

    Seems the car driver is a reporter for a newspaper.

    Read on for more laugh a minute entertainment.

  153. JC

    They prefer to live here.

    Sure, they come down a notch from the 7th circle of hell to the 6th. I appreciate that. However the 6th is still far away from heaven.

  154. Tekweni:

    Numbers was challenging someone to put up their army number in one of his posts. Who cares or can even remember one’s number was when doing national service.

    Someone was retelling a copper story about a bloke who was getting rowdy and said he was a Vietnam Veteran. He was asked his Regimental Number and answered “umm – 7”.
    I never forgot mine – how could you?

  155. notafan

    I would be hard-pressed to have known the complainant was black.

    Clearly the horse rider objected to the presence of Californians

    And who could blame him?

  156. Infidel Tiger

    A chart that details why the average Australian is so misinformed:

    https://twitter.com/earleyedition/status/1160777905397534720

  157. Black Ball

    Just a break at work and something caught my eye on the latest edition of New Idea. Apparently Lisa Wilkinson is being replaced on Teh Project by……Karl Stefonovic. If true, lolgf Lisa

  158. feelthebern

    Every time one of these African chappies causes some grief in the suburbs of Melbourne, wouldn’t you have preferred that their “spot” in Oz was taken from someone in Asia?

  159. notafan

    OK JC

    Melbourne is hell 24/7.

    Still a nice house in the eastern suburbs isnt that bad

    I have seen lots of pictures of quality Chinese apartment buildings

    (not that we are not getting some of that quality work here now)

  160. JC

    I dunno, it still looks strange and forbidding from 35,000 feet up. I like it like that. 🙂

    The housing market is booming. Just not in the places you might expect.

    Homes for sale in small to midsize cities like Boise, Idaho; South Bend, Ind.; Columbia, Mo.; and Youngstown, Ohio, are enjoying a sustained upswing.

    During the crucial spring selling season, only 10 of 178 metropolitan areas had double-digit annual price increases, down from two dozen in the second quarter of 2018, according to the National Association of Realtors. Nearly all of those high-growth areas were in less-expensive, smaller markets, where home prices are now rising faster than incomes, inventory levels are shrinking, and bidding wars are breaking out, especially for starter homes.

    “We’ve seen this shift to the center of the country,” said Glenn Kelman, chief executive of Redfin, a Seattle-based real-estate brokerage. “It used to be flyover country, and now it’s saving our bacon.”

    Economists stumped… as always.

    The national housing market and the economy have been on separate paths for most of the past year. Jobs have been plentiful and wage growth is picking up, while mortgage rates are at their lowest level in nearly three years. But existing-home sales are down 4% this year compared with last, according to an analysis of National Association of Realtors data by Ted Jones, chief economist at Stewart Title Guaranty Co.

    You freeze your knackers off in the winter

    Danielle Parent, a Redfin agent in Cleveland, said she is seeing an influx of buyers from expensive coastal cities. Home prices in Cleveland rose nearly 12% in June compared with a year earlier, according to Redfin. That was driven by a shortage of inventory, as the number of homes for sale declined nearly 7%.

    “Every time I think my buyers have just a minute to think about buying a house, if you get the price right, it immediately sells,” Ms. Parent said. “It’s still very, very competitive.”

    Julia Tiersky and Brian Tiersky spent about a decade in Seattle before deciding last month to move back to Cleveland, where Ms. Tiersky is from. The couple said lower housing and child-care costs sold them on the move.

    In Hudson, a suburb of Cleveland where the couple decided to settle, they were surprised at how competitive the market was. “We’d find something we like and think we’ll go out in a couple of weeks. By the time we did that, things would be off the market,” Mr. Tiersky said.

    When the couple found the right home, with a treehouse and proximity to Hudson’s downtown, Ms. Tiersky took a redeye flight from Seattle and went straight from the airport to see it. They made an offer a few hours later.

    A long rally in hot spots like the Bay Area and Seattle has run out of gas. These markets are experiencing their first price declines in years, as homes linger on the market for weeks and would-be buyers balk at the still-expensive price tags.

    It is unclear whether the sales growth in smaller U.S. cities will be enough to prop up the overall housing market, since slower growth or price declines in the biggest metro areas have weighed heavily on national home sales figures.

    Many Midwestern markets have heated up so quickly they are now experiencing some of the downsides of a hot market: shortages of inventory and rising prices that are blocking first-time buyers from entering the market.

    Anthony West, a Realtor in Kansas City, Mo., said the rise in competition and lack of inventory have prolonged the buying process for millennials and increased prices of lower-cost homes.

    He said younger buyers are having to make compromises, such as choosing an inconvenient location, forgoing the inspection period, or stretching themselves financially to pay for homes.

    “That’s got me concerned for them down the road as to will they recoup those extra funds that they purchased this property for?” Mr. West said.

    Michelle Gordon, a Realtor in Grand Rapids, Mich., said there is strong demand for entry-level homes, especially with lower mortgage rates. “We have some buyers coming out of the woodwork,” she said.

    …the interior is the undeveloped market.

  161. feelthebern

    I doubt whether a real horsemen would have chased the car on paved/tarred surface.
    Would have hurt the poor horsey.

  162. Shy Ted

    Here’s Lucy’ 5c of psychiatric advice. If you want to do number’ head in, at the time post “I shall respond to your 1735099
    #3129202, posted on August 12, 2019 at 9:55 am
    this evening and post your response in the evening, about the time you’re ready for bed. Save it in a word document. Now send me 5c. You can have your money back if you can tell me, in theory, what should happen next.

  163. thefrolickingmole

    Consider this: The Pomgolians are so proud of this piece of bureaucracy with a sideline in health care they made it part of their Olympic opening ceremony.

    The doctor will see you … in two weeks

    A survey of more than 900 GPs has found the average waiting time to get in to the doctor has exceeded two weeks for the first time. Some 20% of doctors who took part said the waiting time for a routine appointment exceeded three weeks, while 5% said it was more than four weeks. The survey published today by the health publication Pulse showed an increase from 2016, when the average was just over 12 days. “Patient demand continues to soar with higher expectations despite dreadful government funding. MPs have a lot to answer for,” said one GP, who took part. NHS England said the results did not tally with official statistics, but Prof Helen Stokes-Lampard, the chair of the Royal College of GPs, said: “People are waiting too long for routine appointments, and the concern is that non-serious conditions might deteriorate, or patients give up trying to see the GP and we miss signs of serious illness early when it could be dealt with simply and more cost effectively in primary care.”

    No “death panels” though, so thats alright then….

  164. Farmer Gez

    JC
    #3129457, posted on August 12, 2019 at 3:31 pm
    Gez

    Just over 6% of their imports is food and I bet most of it is presumed to be high quality junk coming from the West.

    It’s the old conundrum of need versus want.
    I’d think the Chinese would import vastly more in food commodities if the markets were open and the central government was honest in satisfying demand.
    I was at a conference with a big Chinese delegation who delivered the supply and demand for beans into China. Officially they had a great crop that covered all needs but still the traders were doing business with the Chinese in beans.

  165. JC

    I missed this part.

    That divergence has stumped economists. But the growing strength of housing markets in the heartland suggests that strong economic fundamentals are helping, just not where prices have already grown faster than incomes for seven years.

  166. Infidel Tiger

    Every time one of these African chappies causes some grief in the suburbs of Melbourne, wouldn’t you have preferred that their “spot” in Oz was taken from someone in Asia?

    Better still.

    Let’s have neither.

  167. feelthebern

    Fortress Australia?

  168. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    When he saw that he was getting nowhere, but that instead, an uproar was starting, he took water and washed his hands in front of the crowd. “I am innocent of those analysts’ inexperience and lack of competency,” he said. “It is your your choice to read their nonsense which you know is wrong, and you use as confirmation bias!”

  169. Shy Ted

    Apparently Lisa Wilkinson is being replaced on Teh Project Maybe she wants to spend more time with her family. On second thoughts that can’t be it.
    Isn’t that some kind of white supremacist hand signal?

  170. feelthebern

    For the next 20 years, China will be trying to keep a lid on their internal struggles.
    They really couldn’t give a shit about Australia.
    In classic Australian way, we always try make ourselves seem more important in a global sense than we really are.

  171. JC

    Just sold some more Aussie. Stop just above 68 cents. Gotta make some money now. might convert it to a short against the Japanese yen too. Yen is heading to below 100 against the US.

  172. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Disgust as Anne Frank theatre poster defaced with swoztika
    Mark Schliebs
    Reporter
    @mark_schliebs
    12:41PM August 12, 2019
    18 Comments

    A small Melbourne theatre company has been left disgusted after someone spray-painted a swoztika on a poster promoting its latest production, The Diary of Anne Frank, on its opening night.

    One of the cast members of the production by the Peridot Theatre Company in Mount Waverley, in Melbourne’s southeast, discovered the graffiti on Friday as she left for the night.

    Peridot president Alison Knight said she reported the matter to police, who have been investigating the matter.

    “It was very disturbing,” Ms Knight said. “The stage manager messaged me at 11.30pm to tell me what had happened and we think it occurred somewhere between 10.30pm and 10.45pm.”

    She said her and her husband washed the graffiti off the poster the following day.

    From the Oz.

  173. feelthebern

    Short AUD.
    Long GBP.

  174. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Anne Frank meme jokes are worse than a swass sticker, no one is calling the internet cops.

  175. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Cornwall Council declares “climate emergency”

    Cornwall has recently become overstuffed with escapees to the country who are determined to live The Good Life on their pseudo-Surbiton vegetable garden and impose their green ideologies on all other dwellers.

    Similar to Tasmania here.

  176. JC

    That’s an interesting bet, Bern. For me , that’s after that October deadline.

  177. feelthebern

    IT at his local dry cleaners.

  178. Mater

    Similar to Tasmania here.

    Happening everywhere, Lizzie.

  179. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Mr Washee Washee is not a convincing E. Honda.

  180. feelthebern

    Hey JC, there was a Curb Your Enthusiasm marathon here yesterday.
    I only caught a few episodes.
    I love it how Leon the black dude went with Larry to New York.
    Why would he do that ?
    He had the LA house to himself.

  181. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    NHS two weeks to see a doc? So the patient has to decide whether it is urgent enough to create a fuss about or not, and scream I have to see someone immediately or soonest. This will only be the option if they are less than self-effacing in temperament; poor meek Millies and Maurices will just wait while the cancer or infection advances. Two weeks (even two days) is a ridiculous amount of time to wait after thinking, as most people do about any health niggle, maybe I should see a doc about this.

    In Sydney, if my doc of preference is away or too busy, I can wander into any local medical centre in any suburb with my Medicare number and see a doc fairly immediately, often at bulk-billing rates too. Wouldn’t try my luck at the hospital emergency though, you die first of boredom in the three hour wait there.

  182. JC

    Lol… Bern. Leon won’t leave. He never leaves. That’s one of the funniest parts of the show.

  183. Roger:

    I would be much more interested in an Uhlmann investigation into why Australia has walked into an energy disaster with its eyes wide open.

    Roger, the politicians who have created this disastrous situation are hitting the knees each night hoping they don’t cop the blame when it all falls over.
    That’s what they are banking on.

  184. Bear Necessities

    Apparently Lisa Wilkinson is being replaced on Teh Project Maybe she wants to spend more time with her family. On second thoughts that can’t be it.
    Isn’t that some kind of white supremacist hand signal?

    Last week they had old Leather Face on the Project. He looked like the Cat who ate all the cream. Getting the ABC pension as well as the dosh from 10.

    Life is very fair for some.

  185. feelthebern

    Leon talking about Michael J Fox.

  186. calli

    Lol.

    Just looked up a certain “metaphor” used imbecilically up thread and stumbled upon Urban Dictionary. Top trending word today:

    Arkancide

    🤣

  187. feelthebern

    Leon calls Michael J Fox’s parkinson’s, “that shaky shit”.

    Lol.

  188. feelthebern

    If Carrie Bickmore’s husband didn’t die from cancer, no one would ever have heard of her.

  189. Bear Necessities

    Does Lisa Wilkinson have an abrasive personality? No, can’t be!

  190. calli

    The penny glossies have had Armytage and Barr leaving Sunrise for eighteen months now, egg_.

    I’d believe the rumour as far as I could kick it.

  191. Des Deskperson

    Wilkinson has denied it:

    https://www.newidea.com.au/lisa-wilkinson-lashes-out-over-the-project-drama

    I love this bit:

    ‘The 59-year-old has taken to Instagram to set the record straight, with a photo taken during her recent European holiday with husband Peter Fitzgibbons.’

    Freud would have given 100 Krona cash for that slip.

  192. feelthebern

    I thought Bandanna man cut his carbon heavy holiday short to come home to address the Knox sex abuse situation.

  193. Infidel Tiger

    Fortress Australia?

    We have derived all the possible benefits there are from immigration.

    Now we can stop and focus on getting those that are already here on the straight and narrow.

  194. Ellie

    Lizzie, you asked about the CPAC conference this morning. I can only comment on the Saturday morning part.

    Nigel Farage was incredible. He confirmed what we all know – that the Greenies have taken over the country. He focused on the need for ‘real conservative leaders’ and commented on Australia and the UK’s shift in that respect. Though he was critical of Boris to some extent. I think the biggest clap and roar from the audience came when he said Turnbull pretended to be a conservative, but turned out to he a snake. A certain libertarian (Sinc) in my vicinity meekly said ‘I love you Malcolm’. He was drowned out. 😁

    I could hear the protesters outside. One woman being all shouty and some cheering. Pretty poor effort really.

    People in attendance – young, old and in between. Various nationalities. I saw a Chinese family – parents and children covered in Trump memorabilia.

    The room wasn’t packed to capacity. I didn’t think it was a big turnout considering it was a representation of NSW conservatives. Maybe it wasn’t advertised widely. Maybe people feared turning up and being assaulted by the (minimal) protesters present.

    It was still encouraging though and felt great to be mixing with like-minded people.

    Special shout out to Cassie, Rafe and Steve Kates. Great to meet you guys.

  195. calli

    Winston Smith
    #3129502, posted on August 12, 2019 at 3:58 pm

    Yes. There is method and purpose there. Used also by other unlamented smitees.

  196. egg_

    ‘The 59-year-old has taken to Instagram to set the record straight, with a photo taken during her recent European holiday with husband Peter Fitzgibbons.’

    Does his peter fitz baboons, too?

  197. calli

    Peter Fitzgibbons

    Bzzzzzzt.

    Peter Fitzsimians.

  198. calli

    Maybe people feared turning up and being assaulted by the (minimal) protesters present.

    No one wants to run the gauntlet, particularly in these days of projectile throwing. It isn’t always a jug of water.

    Cold weather may have been a factor in both audience and halfwit numbers.

  199. max

    We’ve allowed possibly 300 little boys to be castrated over the past three of so years in the name of science.

    Oh and we’re also jailing religious leaders too with flimsy evidence and hate-based ideology.

    OK, but we don’t have a justice system with a 99.9% conviction rate.

    And when we greet each other, we say ‘G’day’. Our first words to a colleague in the office are not ‘Did you eat yet ?’ Famine and food shortages leave a listing impression on a culture over the centuries.

  200. Ellie

    Calli – true. It was fricking cold and windy. As I said, I can only comment on one section of the conference. The protesters weren’t there when I arrived for the start and weren’t there when I left. The NSW police seemed to have things pretty much under control. I think there was something thrown at an attendee. Feral scum! If it had landed on me it would have been on! 😎

  201. feelthebern

    Hey IT, have you bailed your Bali mate out yet?

  202. bespoke

    Tekweni
    #3129143, posted on August 12, 2019 at 8:31 am
    Numbers was challenging someone to put up their army number in one of his posts. Who cares or can even remember one’s number was when doing national service. Thinking back I can remember just the first two digits of mine. I don’t wallow in some sort of self pity that a nasty apartheid regime made me defend my country of birth. I moved on and wake up each day thinking that I won the lottery of life in being accepted so many years ago as a migrant to Australia.

    My dad feels the same and is just as dismayed as me the ideology has returned under a new name. Multiculturalism.

  203. Infidel Tiger

    Hey IT, have you bailed your Bali mate out yet?

    Que?

    I don’t follow, but I approve of every ruffian and degenerate in Bali being jailed. Can only make the place better.

  204. Infidel Tiger

    Hey feelthebern, is the hemp oil you take in capsule form or liquid?

    I have had chronic back pain the last two days and am reaching out for cures.

  205. Empire 5:5

    Arkancide

    An American is statistically more likely to die by Klinton than rifle.

  206. Leigh Lowe

    feelthebern

    #3129541, posted on August 12, 2019 at 4:33 pm

    Hey JC, there was a Curb Your Enthusiasm marathon here yesterday.
    I only caught a few episodes

    Best to limit it to three at a time.
    When it gets to the fourth one, I am screaming “Larry, no! Stop it NOW!” as he ploughs on through another disaster.
    One of the ones I saw was when they were at a social card game and a closet gay guy folds on a great hand and is bluffed by a woman holding a shit hand.
    Larry calls him a xunt (obviously it means “wussy” over there).
    Stony silence.
    Then he just keeps doubling down.

  207. Infidel Tiger

    Ansell chief executive Magnus Nicolin has warned China of “brutal” consequences as manufacturers leave the country over rising costs and fears at the escalation in trade war with Donald Trump.

    “So many manufacturers are moving out of China at breakneck speed. You don’t see it in the China-reported GDP growth numbers yet. I suspect that sooner or later it will be visible,” Mr Nicolin said.

    https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/brutal-consequences-ansell-warns-china-over-exodus-of-manufacturers-20190812-p52gat.html

  208. JC

    Leigh and Bern

    It was the funniest show ever and the reckon Larry is a closet Republican too. His ex wife was a loon green leftie. I saw him interviewed once and was asked about the divorce. He reckoned he could keep the lights on after he got rid of her. Lol.

  209. Infidel Tiger

    “It’s going to be quite brutal for China here, in a short while.”

    Mr Nicolin said while Ansell had moved some production out of China “mostly because of (the) trade war, it probably would have happened anyway, because China is frankly a very expensive place to produce in these days. So we can produce a product at 20-30 per cent lower cost in Vietnam or Sri Lanka.”

  210. JC

    Artie

    They’re going to reach a deal. Keep your knickers on.

  211. mh

    I think the biggest clap and roar from the audience came when he said Turnbull pretended to be a conservative, but turned out to he a snake. A certain libertarian (Sinc) in my vicinity meekly said ‘I love you Malcolm’. He was drowned out. 😁

    How embarrassing.

    Farage is wrong of course, Turnbull has never pretended to be a conservative.

  212. Leigh Lowe

    calli

    #3129552, posted on August 12, 2019 at 4:43 pm

    The penny glossies have had Armytage and Barr leaving Sunrise for eighteen months now, egg_.

    I’d believe the rumour as far as I could kick it.

    Whilst Lisa is bashing “No Idea” magazine we should not forget that Lisa started her career in (cough) “serious journalism” as editor of “Dolly” magazine, running hard on issues like whether pink nail-polish was out of favour for the summer of 1992, or which Bay City Roller is your perfect match.

  213. Infidel Tiger

    Artie

    They’re going to reach a deal. Keep your knickers on.

    What deal could they possibly reach?

    This isn’t about trade. It’s about theft and geo-politics.

  214. Empire 5:5

    China doesn’t have enough protein to feed it’s population beyond Christmas. The Chinese people won’t tolerate starvation beyond the DNC Convention. They are out of ammo, in check and will make a deal. If the CCP is lucky, they might even be allowed to save face.

  215. JC

    Artie

    They’re going to get a deal done. Trump isn’t big on strategic thinking. He just wants a trade deal.

  216. Des Deskperson

    “…. running hard on issues like whether pink nail-polish was out of favour for the summer of 1992, or which Bay City Roller is your perfect match.’

    Love your work, Leigh, but Lisa would have been about 12 around the time that the Bay City Rollers had their 15 minutes.

  217. calli

    Heh. I was reading Dolly magazine in 1972.

    Pink nail polish was definitely in favour, and Johnny Farnham was the idol du jour.

  218. feelthebern

    China doesn’t have enough protein to feed it’s population beyond Christmas.

    I didn’t realise they had one warehouse that held the exact amount of protein.

  219. JC

    China doesn’t have enough protein to feed it’s population beyond Christmas.

    And do we, or anyone else for that matter? Seriously, would there be more than a week’s worth or food in our own stores at any one time?

  220. feelthebern

    IT, it’s liquid capsule form.
    But if you have a serious back issue get a massage.
    If you were in Sydney, I’d refer you to my kiwi bird.
    She’s got a bit of Maori in her so can manhandle a skippy’s back quite easily.

  221. Roger

    “Rock climbing should be banned in Wilpena Pound”, says traditional owner (behind a paywall at the Adelaide Advertiser).

  222. would there be more than a week’s worth or food in our own stores

    I have a good stock of the major food groups:

    Whisky – check
    Beer -check
    Tobacco – check
    Baked beans – check
    Sugar – check

    I could survive for years.

  223. calli

    Today’s contribution to the wonders of diversity:

    Exhibit A

    Exhibit B

    Savages.

  224. feelthebern

    US soybean exports to China are officially down by something like 30-40%.
    But guess what US exports to Japan, Taiwan, Vietnam & even Argentina are up substantially.
    & then those countries exports to China are up.
    Bottom line, US soy beans are getting to China, but via a short stopover.
    The market always wins.

  225. Nick

    But if you have a serious back issue get a massage.

    That’s what started my back problems lol

  226. JC

    Bottom line, US soy beans are getting to China, but via a short stopover.
    The market always wins.

    Yep.

  227. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Rock climbing should be banned at Wilpena Pound, says Adnyamathanha traditional owner

    A day after two people died in a climbing accident, an Adnyamathanha leader says it’s time to ban the scaling of Wilpena Pound for safety and cultural reasons. The two bodies have now been recovered.
    Elizabeth Henson, The Advertiser
    Subscriber only
    |
    12 minutes ago

    Rock climbers should be banned from scaling Wilpena Pound’s iconic walls for their own safety and out of respect to the local Aboriginal community, a traditional owner says.

    Vince Coulthard — who last month retired from his 20-year role as chief executive officer of the Adnyamathanha Traditional Lands Association — is calling on the State Government to prohibit rock climbing at Wilpena Pound, post signage and issue fines to those who flout the rule.

    Mr Coulthard likened climbing the cliff to abseiling a cathedral or the National War Memorial in Adelaide.

    He said the move would pay respect to the local indigenous community — the Adnyamathanha people — and potentially save lives.

    “I’d like the Government to move in that direction to stop cliff climbing on the walls of the Pound,” he said.

    It came after two climbers were found dead at the base of a cliff at Wilpena Pound on Sunday.

  228. feelthebern

    Well played Nick.
    Well played.

  229. Infidel Tiger

    Bottom line, US soy beans are getting to China, but via a short stopover.
    The market always wins.

    That also tells us that China desperately needs US soy beans.

    The US holds all the cards. China must bend the knee.

  230. mh

    If you were in Sydney, I’d refer you to my kiwi bird.
    She’s got a bit of Maori in her so can manhandle a skippy’s back quite easily.

    A guy from Sydney’s Eastern suburbs giving referrals for a massage to Infidel Tiger!

    Love it, bern!

  231. feelthebern

    The Maori woman has arm strength to do deep tissue.
    I don’t understand why there are so many Asian massage joints.
    They’re so tiny, there’s no way they can manipulate a westerners back properly.

  232. Infidel Tiger

    I don’t understand why there are so many Asian massage joints.

    You know they are all knock shops?

  233. Roger

    Roger, the politicians who have created this disastrous situation are hitting the knees each night hoping they don’t cop the blame when it all falls over.

    That was Doctor Faustus, Winston.

    I replied that our politicians were cowards who had caved in to Green bullying.

    It began with John Howard who initiated the RET in an attempt to politically neutralise the issue.

    Too clever by half.

  234. Tintarella di Luna

    There was an article in the Australian today _ Agencies back Hastie on China: this comment of mine was rejected – I wonder if the moderators know any history at all. I’ve emailed asking for an explanation as to why:

    Andrew Hastie is a courageous man who has certainly belled the Giant Panda and in doing so has called forth the craven and wilfully blind in his own party.

    Hastie is exactly right about the unchallenged rise of murderous totalitarians regimes in the 1930s. European business leaders and the elites thought it was all tickety-boo until it wasn’t; and that goes for Britain too, lest we forget it was the elites and the business people of Britain who thought the totalitarians were good for business, as is too often the case ’twas the man on the Clapham omnibus who knew that the winds of war would sweep across the English channel, and so it came to pass.

  235. Empire 5:5

    And do we, or anyone else for that matter? Seriously, would there be more than a week’s worth or food in our own stores at any one time?

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-27/kyle-bass-massive-pig-ebola-epidemic-gives-trump-big-leverage-china-trade-deal

  236. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I was in a shipping container apartment in Las Vegas that cost only $30,000 and was downright appealing. There are things we can do to make housing more affordable for many Americans.

    Shipping containers are metal, thus hot and cold, need insulation I would think and many other rather expensive things to make them habitable. I know they can do it, I’ve seen the pics, but why bother when something else might be as cost effective? In Britain they’ve used prefabs in some areas for ‘social’ housing so they can make TV programs on this as an enviro-cheap solution. Turns out to be only just under the cost of normal building and basically a green fantasy project. Putting sub-standard buildings for the homeless in San Fran and LA on expensive land seems more enviro-cheap than really cost-effective.

  237. Infidel Tiger

    The Maori woman has arm strength to do deep tissue.

    Went to the Bledisloe on Saturday night, aside from being just a superb game, I have never in my life seen such slovenly, surly, overweight and tattooed people in my life as the All Black supporters.

    Fair dinkum, it was scary to be around. They were mostly drunk as skunks and generally giving off a deeply unpleasant vibe.

  238. Tintarella di Luna

    They’re so tiny, there’s no way they can manipulate a westerners back properly.

    Was treated to a traditional Thai massage just this Saturdat – the tiny little lady who did the massage certainly made a difference to my back — I felt marvellous afterwards am feeling much more limber — I have have bouts of severe sciatica and at times have not been able to walk without severe pain Thai massages always seem to do the trick.

  239. thefrollickingmole

    There is one thing to consider with China.

    Its “license” to govern without using internal security is based on 20+ years of improving living standards for the majority of its people.
    If that hits a bump they dont have the safety valve of thinking “Im going to vote the bastards out in a year” like we do.

    Id also point out we are badly governed for the same reasons, people put up with a lot of shit government because they vent their speen at the elections (and are then treated to uniparty government anyway)

  240. feelthebern

    Would you rather a Maori lady or Asian lady working out the kinks in your back?

  241. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I can’t see anything wrong with your comment on the Oz, Tinta. Expresses an opinion well, imho. Good to see that the man Cassie and I voted singlehandedly into Wentworth (i.e. we did our bit with the pencil, reservations notwithstanding), ex-diplomat David Sharma, has come out in support of Hastie. I agree with Rita Panahi that using the N word was probably a bad move (just say totalitarian) as it allows the dog-whistle response, but the general sentiment of keeping an eye on what communists anywhere are doing sounds good to me.

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