CPAC Australia Day 2

Just a brief post before I put my weary bones to bed after a night of carousing, conservatively, at the end of the second very full day of the very first Australian Conservative Political Action Conference. So overloaded with interest that by the time I was listening to Nigel Farage at the dinner at the end of the night, it was hard to believe that we had heard him for the first time only that morning. The most striking conclusion from the two days is how obvious a conservative disposition is as the way to face our difficulties, and how obvious conservative political conclusions are as the means to remedy the problems our communities face. Centralised fixes for our problems will, to larger proportions of our populations, no longer seem like anything other than ways to make such problems worse.

I will just put up three quotes from the dinner, and then say more tomorrow.

First, from Nigel Farage, talking about the certainty that Brexit will happen because the people of Britain will not let the British political class prevent it (said in an Australian accent).

“We won’t let the bastards get away with it.”

From Mark Meadows, the head of the Republican Freedom Causus in the US House of Reps, in discussing the absolute imperative to fight for one’s principles if we are to succeed:

“if you can’t make them see the light, you must make them feel the heat.”

Lastly, Mark Latham:

Conservatives have been so used to defending the existing social order that they have not yet realised is that what they have now been forced to do is to start fighting against the existing social order.”

The fact that CPAC has come to Australia is not just a sign that we are no longer going to take this rapid shift to a globalised elites-and-deplorables status quo, but that the rest of us are determined to roll it back, and restore the nation state and traditional small-l liberal values to the centre of our political culture.

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21 Responses to CPAC Australia Day 2

  1. Herodotus

    They used to say:
    Australia is that place where the crows fly backwards to keep the dust out of their eyes, and where Liberal means Conservative.
    Another take was “Australia? It’s a sort of socialist place where the government owns the railways.”
    Now Tim Blair says that politics in Australia, the UK and the USA is no longer a battle between left and right, it’s between normal and crazy.

    If only I could say (and mean it) that in all three places Conservative really does mean Normal and that it also meant Sensible.
    We’ll have to wait at least until Trump is returned in 2020, Boris gets Brexit through, and Australia gets rid of all the climate craziness and becomes sensible about electricity.
    For the moment our politicians are still not dealing with the big issues in a manner deserving of the terms Sensible or Conservative.

  2. A pity that none, or very little, of this will be made public and what is, will be given the usual ‘rantings of the far-right’ slant by the media.

  3. jupes

    A pity that none, or very little, of this will be made public and what is, will be given the usual ‘rantings of the far-right’ slant by the media.

    Nothing on the ABC webpage whatsoever.

    They did stack a five lefty The Drum panel against the US bloke who brought CPAC here a couple of days ago. However after he beclowned the fuckwits, they have decided not to give it any more publicity.

  4. Penny

    Jesus Steve, I am English, pro Brexit and a conservative, I don’t get this adulation of Farage in Australia, what little I heard of his speech it was embarrassing. The man is a drunken fool UKIP started well but he destroyed it as no one can work with him, doesn’t want anyone near who might threaten his position as leader.

  5. Tom

    Jesus Steve, I am English, pro Brexit and a conservative…

    Can you get me some of that Kool Aid you’re smoking, Penny? You sound like a BBC bot, regurgitating everything you’ve been told about Brexit by the establishment British media for the past three years.

  6. mem

    Penny
    #3128451, posted on August 11, 2019 at 8:10 am
    Jesus Steve, I am English, pro Brexit and a conservative,
    Anyone who purports to be English and conservative would not start a post with blasphemy and they certainly wouldn’t finish a sentence with a comma! Perhaps it is you that is the drunk and the fool

  7. Iampeter

    First, from Nigel Farage, talking about the certainty that Brexit will happen because the people of Britain will not let the British political class prevent it (said in an Australian accent).

    “We won’t let the bastards get away with it.”

    Then why’d he quit when he was needed for that fight more than ever?

    Lastly, Mark Latham:

    Conservatives have been so used to defending the existing social order that they have not yet realised is that what they have now been forced to do is to start fighting against the existing social order.”

    Deep stuff. Except conservatives don’t know anything about the “social order” which is why they stick to these vapid and superficial non-statements, saying absolutely nothing.
    Also, Mark Latham? Really? Conservative movement is sure doing well!

    Anyway, back to writing posts about regulating tech companies, trade, immigration, pretty much everything, in order to …um…fight the left? Right Steve?

    Politics!

  8. Roger

    Now Tim Blair says that politics in Australia, the UK and the USA is no longer a battle between left and right, it’s between normal and crazy.

    I note that Joe Hildebrand has reported on Leftists leaving Leftism because it has become too crazy for them.

  9. Iampeter

    Now Tim Blair says that politics in Australia, the UK and the USA is no longer a battle between left and right, it’s between normal and crazy.

    Yea but what else is Tim Blair going to do? Concede that conservatism, the movement he belongs to, is completely ideologically bankrupt and can’t really be distinguished from the left in terms of ideas anymore?

    Nah. Ad hominem is much easier.

  10. Penny

    Tom
    I couldn’t be further from the BBC crap and not drinking cool aid, you dope !!
    Farage had such an opportunity to formulate a plan to leave the EU right at the beginning but he didn’t, just went for a no deal Brexit, which will be a slow burn on the British economy, as bad as Mays withdrawal agreement was they should have voted for it ., UK would be out by now, and over the years tweeting the trade agreement to suit the the UK. Should have gone for staying in the Single Market EEA/EFTA option
    As soon as October 31 comes and UK leave without a deal by default the UK automatically becomes a third country. Then the politicians will know they are alive, probably end up back in the EU, which I can assure you I don’t want that

  11. Herodotus

    What else is Blair going to do?
    Continue to ridicule leftists, which he does so well and so often. They hates it, precious.
    As for you, Iampitup-peter, ad hominem is attacking the man, which I’m happy to do to trolls like you, but it’s not making a general observation about the crazies.
    If you deny they’re crazy, you are crazy too.

  12. Pro Eng

    Penny if you are a female your understanding of economics has not progressed past a home budget and you are naive enough to get taken in by globe socialists. If you are a male, sorry mate, your understanding is zero and clear indication you are clueless and ripe to be taken in by green activists who want to destroy the world order so some dictator can can crush the disobedient (ie if you are not there already).

  13. Iampeter

    Continue to ridicule leftists, which he does so well and so often. They hates it, precious.

    Which is funny since Blair thinks Howard was a great Prime Minister.

    If you deny they’re crazy, you are crazy too.

    Oh the left IS completely crazy and they need to be opposed.
    But those who think they are opposing the left, only to then advocate regulating trade, immigration, tech companies, abortion, marriage, basically everything, are the craziest of all leftists.

  14. Roger

    But those who think they are opposing the left, only to then advocate regulating trade, immigration, tech companies, abortion, marriage, basically everything, are the craziest of all leftists.

    Let’s take those issues one at a time, shall we?

    Those who conflate often seek to aggravate rather than illuminate.

  15. areff

    We’ll put, Tom. Not well put, Penny

  16. Tel

    No deal Brexit is by far the best outcome for the UK. The EU bosses in Brussels never played square with the UK from the beginning … their recent lack of good faith negotiations proves they aren’t about to start being nice guys any time soon. Countries from all around the world will be queued to sign onto trade agreements … indeed they already are.

  17. Ubique

    Conservatives have been so used to defending the existing social order that they have not yet realised is that what they have now been forced to do is to start fighting against the existing social order.”

    I’ve been referring to the establishment as “Green-left” for the past 20 years.

  18. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Penny and Peter are Blue Stalwarts ROLCONing.

  19. Iampeter

    Let’s take those issues one at a time, shall we?
    Those who conflate often seek to aggravate rather than illuminate.

    There was no conflation. Those were the collectivist positions that conservatives take on these issues and being collectivists makes them leftists.

    So, how are they then “making fun of leftists” or why would they be calling leftists “crazy?”

    Since they don’t even seem to realize that they are leftists?

  20. cohenite

    They did stack a five lefty The Drum panel against the US bloke who brought CPAC here a couple of days ago. However after he beclowned the fuckwits, they have decided not to give it any more publicity.

    The great Matt Schlapp: abc c..t says don’t you think Trump is to blame for gun attacks and racism against Latinos.

    Matt: well, I’m married to a Latino…..

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