Tuesday Forum: August 13, 2019

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  1. Sinclair Davidson

    Four times in a row Ellie?

  2. Boambee John

    Broke Ellie’s run of posts!

  3. Boambee John

    Drat! Doomlord got in ahead of me.

  4. Sinclair Davidson

    Doomlord got in ahead of me.

    He did indeed.

  5. Woolfe

    Any multiple claims of podium should be thrown onto Twitter

  6. Boambee John

    Should we tell them on the old thread, or keep this one to ourselves until mid-day?

  7. Dr Fred Lenin

    Comrades !firward into the 1920s with the glorious peoples decromatic global cronycapitalist fascist party .

  8. Ellie

    Four indeed, Doomlord 😁

  9. Ellie

    Let’s keep it to ourselves, Boambee John.

  10. Bruce of Newcastle

    Men can now have periods.

    Biological Male ‘Jessica’ Yaniv Can’t Go Swimming Because ‘She’ Forgot ‘Her’ Tampons

    Dear Readers, be warned that what you’re about to read will likely be deemed hate speech by the thought police; Google may very well deem me worthy of internet jail because I’m about to contradict the left’s orthodox teachings on sexuality and gender. Without further ado, here is the spiteful statement that will earn me the label of bigot:

    Biological men cannot have periods and do not need tampons.

    Did anyone born prior to this century ever think that statement would be necessary? I didn’t. No doubt, neither did you, yet here we are. “Jessica” Yaniv, a man who pretends to be a woman, tweeted yesterday, “My period started so ya, couldn’t go into the pool. But it was so much fun! Forgot my tampons in my other bag fml.”

    If it bleeds, it leads.

  11. Geriatric Mayfly

    The plot thickens.

    egg_
    #3130264, posted on August 13, 2019 at 9:43 am
    Si amor me inyectaron
    I have a yeast infection?

    ‘Vaginal steaming’ leaves woman with second-degree burn: report

  12. egg_

    thrice failed draft dodger

    That’s gotta be high on the Failbat totempole!

  13. egg_

    Geriatric Mayfly
    #3130285, posted on August 13, 2019 at 9:58 am

    Was DrBG complaining of the state of camembert in Havana?

  14. C.L.

    Fifty years since Woodstock …
    There was a doco about it on the SBS the other night. The footage of those 400,000 dirty babyboomers almost made me raise a handkerchief to my nostrils.

  15. Infidel Tiger

    Boomers were an utterly depraved and useless generation.

    Woodstock was where they all deserved to die.

  16. Leigh Lowe

    I saw the Woodstock doco.
    It predated the invention of the Brazilian.

  17. Pyrmonter

    More Quality Reporting from the ABC.

    Because people don’t have to pay their debts, and the credit fairy will pay for them if they don’t:

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-13/debt-collectors-suing-for-bankruptcy-over-small-credit-card-debt/11335000

    Debt collectors are bankrupting Australians over small
    credit card debts
    7.30 By national consumer affairs reporter Amy Bainbridge and the Specialist Reporting Team’s Loretta Florance and Lucy Kent
    Updated Tue 13 Aug 2019, 8:31am
    For Kim Forrest and her husband, money has always been tight, but they have managed and, until recently,
    believed they were on track for retirement.
    The Forrests had a mortgage and several other debts, but it was a $9,600 credit card debt that threatened to undo it all.
    In March, Ms Forrest said she received letters from organisations offering to assist the couple with their bankruptcy.
    The word “bankruptcy” was news to her.
    “I just rang them and I said, ‘What’s going on? What’s this bankruptcy about?’,” she said.
    “And they said, ‘well you’d better ring Lion Finance’.”
    Ms Forrest learned the couple’s only asset, their home, could be put in the hands of a trustee unless they came up with
    thousands of dollars in 21 days.
    Kim and Steven Forrest, now 55, have been together since they were teenagers.
    They raised their five children in public housing just outside Newcastle while Ms Forrest worked as a chef and her
    husband drove trucks.
    “We’ve never had any money. We’re happy without money because we’ve got each other. It’s never, ever about money,”
    she said.
    They survived the collapse of their small transport business in the late 90s and bought their modest home when they
    were in their 40s.
    “This was our very first home. It’s just amazing this house, we love it, it’s home,” Ms Forrest said.
    About five years ago, they bought a bed and a washing machine using a credit card with an interest-free period.
    They continued using the card for several years. When the interest-free period expired, Ms Forrest said they began
    paying an interest rate of nearly 30 per cent.
    When she was injured and forced to drop out of the workforce, managing their finances became a struggle.
    Along with their mortgage, there were bills and other ongoing direct debits, including their car finance. They were
    churning through the one wage they had coming in.
    “It’s very, very tough. I mean we had two wages coming in for years,” Ms Forrest said.
    “Now it’s just Steven, he’s the sole breadwinner which is pretty hard.”
    As they battled to keep up, their repayments to the credit card debt became irregular and eventually stopped.
    In May 2018, the credit card company sold the debt to collector Lion Finance — a common practice in the banking sector.
    Debt collectors pay less than the debt is worth for the chance to chase down the entire sum, while the bank gets part of
    the loan paid out rather than writing off the full amount or waiting years to recoup payments.
    Once the debt collector took over the couple’s debt, Ms Forrest re-commenced repayments at $50 a week.
    But in September 2018, Lion Finance, owned by the publicly listed Collection House Limited, took the first step in the
    legal process to recover the debt.
    8/13/2019 Debt collectors are bankrupting Australians over small credit card debts – ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-13/debt-collectors-suing-for-bankruptcy-over-small-credit-card-debt/11335000 2/4
    In court, the debt collector claimed Steven owed more than $11,000.
    Australians can be bankrupted over small debts
    In Australia, an individual can be sued for bankruptcy for an unpaid debt of as little as $5,000.
    Last year, consumer advocates became increasingly alarmed by the number of clients being taken to court over relatively
    small debts by one company in particular — Lion Finance.
    They decided to do some research, analysing court lists over the past four years. Their data, released exclusively to the
    ABC, backed up their suspicions.
    “Lion Finance stands out as the debt collector using bankruptcy proceedings so much more frequently than any other
    debt collector in the market that it’s absolutely astounding,” Financial Rights Legal Centre’s Karen Cox said.
    When it comes to the number of bankruptcy cases filed in the past financial year, Lion Finance was not far behind the
    Australian Tax Office (ATO).
    But while the ATO halved the number of people it sued for bankruptcy from 1,215 in the 2015-16 financial year to 543 in
    last financial year, Lion Finance increased its cases from 182 to 512 people in the same period.
    “Whereas most debt collectors … have been using bankruptcy proceedings less and less, Lion Finance has been a
    growing user, the numbers of bankruptcies are just going through the roof,” Ms Cox said.
    Ms Cox said bankruptcy would normally only be used if the debtor had an asset like a house.
    Lion Finance declined the ABC’s request for an interview, but in a statement from its parent company Collection House
    Limited said it made every effort to avoid legal action.
    “We encourage customers to engage with us so we can discuss and assess their financial circumstances and avoid the
    legal process,” it said.
    The company would not comment on individual cases, but said its approach was different for vulnerable customers and
    “those assessed as having the capacity yet an unwillingness to engage with us to meet their financial obligations”.
    Bankruptcy should be a ‘last resort’
    Once an individual is made bankrupt, their assets are taken over by a trustee and sold to pay off their debts.
    The trustee also charges the debtor tens of thousands of dollars.
    “Bankruptcy proceedings should be used as a last resort, [because] the impact on the debtor of bankruptcy proceedings
    is profound,” Ms Cox said.
    “They will not be able to travel overseas without the permission of the trustee.
    “In some cases, their employment may be limited [and in] some occupations, you are not allowed to continue as a
    bankrupt.”
    In Steven and Kim’s case, their home would be sold by the trustee to pay off their credit card debt.
    “You can’t explain how frightening that is. To know that they can take something away like our house,” Ms Forrest said.
    “Then it’s embarrassing. You work hard … and at our age we’d never be able to start again.”
    Lion Finance said its focus was always on helping customers “rehabilitate their finances, enabling them to get back on
    the road to financial freedom”.
    As well as Lion Finance, Collection House Limited owns legal practice CLH Lawyers, which prosecutes its bankruptcy
    claims.
    The company adds costs during the process, which can triple the amount owed by debtors within months.
    “A debt of $5,000, by the time you get to creditors’ petition can easily be $10-15,000, with the addition of interest and
    legal fees,” Ms Cox said.
    8/13/2019 Debt collectors are bankrupting Australians over small credit card debts – ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-13/debt-collectors-suing-for-bankruptcy-over-small-credit-card-debt/11335000 3/4
    In 2017, Collection House’s half-year report described how it was “tightening up” its legal process and taking a “firmer but
    fair position with customers who refuse to meet their obligations”.
    Put simply, it was going to start suing more people for bankruptcy.
    According to the company, the benefits of this tactic were that it:
    “Significantly increases the number of accounts that will be actioned”
    “Encourages customers to take obligations and contact seriously”
    The tactic worked to recover Kim and Steven’s debt, but the couple said the experience felt far from fair.
    “I’ve heard of blokes with a credit card debt and their wages are garnished,” Mr Forrest said.
    “Why didn’t that happen? Why did it go straight to bankruptcy?
    “Bankruptcy’s a pretty big thing, well it is to me.”
    ‘They have no moral code’
    Over the past few months, the ABC has spoken to 22 people across Australia who have been sued for bankruptcy by
    Lion Finance.
    The people the ABC spoke to described the company as aggressive, difficult to negotiate with and determined to litigate.
    Some had lost their homes. Others borrowed tens of thousands of dollars from family or friends to stay afloat.
    Almost everyone was too ashamed to speak publicly. NT Parliamentarian Jeff Collins was not.
    As a former commercial barrister, union representative and firefighter, Mr Collins was used to having a powerful voice.
    Although he has had financial trouble before, nothing prepared him for his encounter with Lion Finance.
    “They have no moral code,” Mr Collins said.
    His story goes like many others: a marriage break-down, coupled with spiralling debt and a credit card he failed to keep
    on top of.
    “I was earning good money, but I was also paying back a lot of debt,” he said.
    He defaulted on his credit card, which he ran up to $5,900, and BankWest sold the debt to Lion Finance in March 2014.
    Nearly two years later, after failed repayment negotiations, Lion Finance took him to court, which ordered $100 a fortnight
    be taken from his wages.
    When he was elected to the NT Parliament in August 2016, the company was told of his new circumstances.
    Seven weeks later, in October the same year, he recommenced his payments, this time making regular deposits into their
    account.
    “I received no correspondence, no communication, no telephone calls,” Mr Collins said.
    “Then I was served with a bankruptcy notice in August of 2017, which came as a complete surprise because I’d been
    paying the instalment amount,” he said.
    Mr Collins successfully challenged the bankruptcy in court, and has since paid off his debt which, with added interest and
    fees, came to nearly $13,000.
    But the experience left him determined to break the “cone of silence” many others felt in the same position.
    “I don’t consider myself particularly vulnerable. I’ve earned good money,” Mr Collins said.
    “That must be a lot more difficult for other people and when you’ve got people like Lion Finance pursuing you and making
    your life a misery.
    “It just makes everything so much harder to try and get your life back on the rails.”
    Lion Finance said it was confident in its procedures and practices in relation to the two cases featured in this story.
    8/13/2019 Debt collectors are bankrupting Australians over small credit card debts – ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-13/debt-collectors-suing-for-bankruptcy-over-small-credit-card-debt/11335000 4/4
    “It is a matter of public record that neither of these individuals were made bankrupt by Lion Finance,” its statement read.
    ‘Beg, borrow or steal’
    Consumer finance groups want an urgent overhaul of Australian laws to lift the minimum amount for suing for bankruptcy
    from $5,000 to $50,000 to stop companies like Lion Finance using the courts to pursue vulnerable people.
    “When you look at the amounts of credit people are given without even blinking, setting it at $5,000 is just ridiculously
    low,” Ms Cox said.
    She said part of the problem was credit being offered without proper checks to make sure a customer could afford the
    debt, particularly when retailers offered cards with interest-only periods.
    “Quite often the limit on the credit card is thousands and thousands of dollars more than what you require to make the
    purchase,” Ms Cox said.
    “And then there are strong incentives and marketing sent out to encourage those people to take out the remaining limit.
    “That’s definitely part of the problem and bankruptcy shouldn’t be part of the solution.”
    Mr Collins said he thought a more reasonable threshold would be $20,000.
    He also wants more funding for community legal services and an alternative means of mediation to deal with amounts
    between $5,000 and $20,000.
    “The bankruptcy proceedings [are] intimidation,” Mr Collins said.
    “It’s about trying to force you to go ahead and beg, borrow, steal to get that money to pay them upfront, rather than come
    to a reasonable agreement about an instalment plan.”
    In mid-July, after seeking help from Financial Rights Legal Centre and the ombudsman, Kim and Steven Forrest reached
    a deal with Lion Finance.
    Lion Finance wanted the couple to pay $17,500 to settle the debt, but Ms Forrest asked for more information about the
    extra costs.
    After that, Lion Finance agreed to settle for the original $11,500 amount ordered by the court.
    The family borrowed the money from a peer-to-peer loan provider to clear their debt and last week the court matter was
    dropped.
    But the family said they faced a new fight to clean up Mr Forrest’s credit score.
    “It just takes a toll on you, it takes a toll on your marriage, it’s heartbreaking really,” he said.
    And while the spectre of bankruptcy no longer hangs over his head, Mr Forrest cannot spend as much time with his
    family as he’d like.
    He will keep driving until the debt is paid.
    “I wouldn’t wish it on anyone. I thought I’d lost everything over $10,000. It’s just stupid,” Mr Forrest said.
    “They’re ruthless, I’ve never dealt with anyone like them and never again.”

  18. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    This Janif man is clearly mentally ill and showing all the signs of a tampon fetish, in his case a seriously unhealthy fascination with the functioning of the female body to which he vainly aspires. He has already fantasized about engaging young girls in changerooms in talk about ‘the hanging cord’ of the tampon user.

    Utterly sick.

    Prince Charles was also once mildly touched in this way, imagining himself as one, but at least that was in a heterosexual context.

  19. Pyrmonter

    Will the ABC be withdrawing its extensive past commentary on ‘predatory lending’?

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-13/westpac-asic-responsible-home-lending-case/11407742

  20. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Boomers were an utterly depraved and useless generation.

    Compared to the whining, bleating rabble that followed, boomers are still the greatest generation.

  21. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Is anyone else having difficulty scrolling up or down in the comment box, or is it just my computer?

  22. Leigh Lowe

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    #3130296, posted on August 13, 2019 at 10:08 am

    This Janif man is clearly mentally ill and showing all the signs of a tampon fetish,

    First in line for the throne, I believe.

  23. Fisky

    “Libertarian” economics refuted yet again!

    Average salary in construction soars to £46,000 as UK loses EU workers

    Average wages in the construction industry have soared as the UK loses EU workers because of Brexit, according to a recruitment firm.

    Recruiters Randstrad said average pay in a sector survey had increased to £45,900 a year in 2018, a £3,600 rise in just 12 months.

  24. Infidel Tiger

    Compared to the whining, bleating rabble that followed, boomers are still the greatest generation.

    Boomers are the head lice on the giants of history.

  25. Pyrmonter

    @ Fisky

    And reducing the volume of work done by cheap labour in the UK benefits whom? GDP/capita is a useful measure of welfare all things being equal, but here, all things aren’t equal: they’ve squeezed out work that will now not be done.

  26. Infidel Tiger

    No. The work will be done properly and at a fair wage by British workers.

    No one is falling for the libertarian nonsense anymore. Go home to your drugs and pornography. You are fucking done here.

  27. Pyrmonter

    @ Fisky

    The UK tried this in the past – doing the same amount of work, but at higher prices: ‘prosperity all round’ the unions claimed … as the restricted growth and dynamism, the free working of labour markets, and introduced stagflation. The Brits went into the EEC to fix that – and doing so (as well as liberalising the economy, re-establishing sound money etc) – eventually did. They’re undoing the work of Thatcher and Joseph, Lawson and Brittan. It will end in tears as you populists of the Right combine with the populists of the Left to restrict the natural tendencies of people to truck and barter for their own gain.

  28. Tom

    Lizzie, reboot your computer regularly. Malfunction is modern software’s second name — especially with the Windows 10 virus.

  29. mem

    From the “we have grant money we need to spend” department and the website “Ethical Jobs” comes this new-age lamebrained job posting.

    JOB VACANCY: ‘CLIMATE EMERGENCY OFFICER’ $100K + p.a

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/08/12/monday-mirthiness-job-posting-climate-emergency-officer/

  30. cohenite

    Worth repeating:

    Pope praises climate teen Greta Thunberg’s activism

    • By TESS LIVINGSTONE
    • 4:46PM AUGUST 11, 2019
    • 149 COMMENTS
    Pope Francis has praised the work of pig-tailed Swedish teenager Greta Thunberg, for raising the alarm about climate change.
    Ms Thunberg, 16, began the “Friday school strike’’ movement outside the Swedish parliament last year, demanding action to reduce greenhouse emissions. The movement, backed by environmental groups, quickly spread around the world.
    More recently, the teenager, who has taken a year off school, has expanded her focus to include “flight shaming’’ – a trend identified as a potential threat to the aviation industry and by Qantas chief executive Alan Joyce last week. “Flight shaming’’ involves activists targeting people who travel by air, claiming they are harming the environment.
    In an extensive interview with Italian newspaper La Stampa on Friday, the Pontiff said his greatest fears for the planet were “the disappearance of biodiversity, new lethal diseases’’ and “a drift and devastation of nature that can lead to the death of humanity”.
    He was more shocked, he said, by the story behind the so-called “Overshoot Day’’, last month. “On July 29th, we used up all the regenerative resources of 2019,’’ Francis said. “From July 30 we started to consume more resources than the planet can regenerate in a year. It’s very serious. It’s a global emergency.’’
    Such issues, he said, made the Church’s Amazonian Synod, to be held in Rome in October with a strong environmental theme, an “urgent synod’’.
    Francis said he was encouraged by “the movements of young ecologists, such as the one led by Greta Thunberg, ‘Fridays for future’.’’
    Ms Thunberg, who refuses to fly because of what she describes the “enormous climate impact of aviation’’ will cross the Atlantic later this month to participate in UN climate summits in the US and Chile.
    German Cardinal Gerhard Mueller, who was sacked by Francis in 2017 as head of the church’s Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, is one of several cardinals who has strongly criticised the working document for the Amazonian Synod. Cardinal Mueller said the document proposes a “cosmovision” that is “pan-naturalistic” and “similar to Marxism.”
    He said the Church must “absolutely reject” expressions such as “ecological conversion” because “there is only conversion to the Lord.”

    Sample comments:

    Lindsay
    And it came to pass that a maiden from the north dwelt among the masses and exhorted them to repent for sins against the climate gods.
    And the high priest of popery was humbled and said “truly this maid is a daughter of the climate gods and I will wash her feet and take a selfie with her”.
    Liked 75

    Stewart
    What hypocrisy! The biggest underlying issue in the world is overpopulation driven to a huge degree by the Popes refusal to allow birth control.
    Then there is Vatican City, home of the most opulent environmentally unfriendly lifestyles in the world.
    Like 73

    Rodney
    There we have the new gospels. A 16 year old and a Pope, both world leading researchers and experts on Earth’s climate system. Please, deliver us from evil and stop giving these people airtime.
    Like 70

    Deborah
    Great comment Rodney.
    Like 14
    Amen.
    Like 6

    Arvid
    Deliver us from stupid will be fine.
    Like 6

    kevin
    Boy, did the Cardinals get it wrong when they picked this embarrassment as Pope.
    The guy must have kept a lot to himself on the way up the greasy pole.
    Liked 68

    MikeT (WA)
    He has proved to be a dud since his first day
    Liked 20

    Noel
    Any chance the flight-shaming will extend to all those celebrities who attended the recent climate-change conference in Sicily and travelled there on their private jets or diesel-guzzling yachts??
    Thought not. Flight-shaming is for the lower echelons who travel by commercial aircraft.
    Liked 68

    Chris
    When I was sixteen I would have loved a year off school with the whole world treating me as a celebrity.
    Lulu
    Liked 61

    Allan
    When I was 16, I realised that I knew a little bit but that there was a heck of a lot I didn’t know so from then on I’ve made a point of keeping my mouth shut until I understood what I was talking about. What’s your experience with climate change, Ms Thunberg and what’re your “solutions” to the “Problems”?
    Like 21

    Stephen
    Isn’t attending school compulsory in Sweden?
    Liked 14

    Peter
    Is the Pope a Catholic? Cardinal Gerhard Mueller can see through the Marxist Pope. He’s a Marxist using the Catholic Church for his ends. The Pope and Greta Thunberg make a great double act. Greta Thunberg’s proposal to eliminate carbon emissions by 2025 would destroy the global economy also known as capitalism altogether. Greta Thunberg’s real claim to fame is as the child mascot of a society that has become infantilised through its replacement of factual evidence by childlike fantasies of a purified world.
    Like 57

  31. If it bleeds, it leads.
    Thanks for that BoN.
    I thought today could only get worse until I read that one.
    So now I’m off to the range to sight in my rifles…

  32. Fisky

    The UK tried this in the past – doing the same amount of work, but at higher prices: ‘prosperity all round’ the unions claimed

    No, what happened in the past is that that labour force remained constant, but the unions restricted the number of eligible workers, creating unemployment. Now the UK is restricting the labour force as a whole and letting the market decide wages. What a wonderful free market policy, redistributing income from profits to wages.

    Libertarians are furious!

  33. Mater

    Should we tell them on the old thread, or keep this one to ourselves until mid-day?

    I was rostered on as the tethered goat on the previous abandoned thread. It’s Leigh Lowe’s turn to keep him occupied.

  34. feelthebern

    Considering that these airport protests were flagged days ago & considering how easy it is to restrict access to the airport, I wonder why the HK government allowed the airport protests to happen.

  35. Roger

    In an extensive interview with Italian newspaper La Stampa on Friday, the Pontiff said his greatest fears for the planet were “the disappearance of biodiversity, new lethal diseases’’ and “a drift and devastation of nature that can lead to the death of humanity”.

    I think the pope may be an atheist (he certainly wouldn’t be alone among the clergy on that score).

    He certainly talks like one.

  36. cohenite

    Men can now have periods.

    Biological Male ‘Jessica’ Yaniv Can’t Go Swimming Because ‘She’ Forgot ‘Her’ Tampons

    That this person is mentally disturbed is obvious but the real sickness is the acceptance of it’s sickness by media, which now runs the joint.

  37. Fisky

    Tory Remainers have been broken. They are finished. It’s only a matter of time before they are purged!

    Steven Swinford
    @Steven_Swinford

    Some senior Tory MPs resolutely opposed to no-deal are already privately admitting defeat:

    ‘Inside myself I’m saying I have lost, I have to admit it. It’s over. I don’t want to be part of it all [the rebel alliance]’

  38. feelthebern

    Are there tampon dispensers in the male bathrooms of parliament house?
    If not, why not?

  39. Infidel Tiger

    Pope Frank is infuriating.

    He gets the big issues right about homos and abortion and then goes on these flights of fancy about warm weather.

    He has been mostly sound.

  40. Fisky

    Considering that these airport protests were flagged days ago & considering how easy it is to restrict access to the airport, I wonder why the HK government allowed the airport protests to happen.

    I can’t wait to see which “libertarian” apologists will be running interference for Beijing after it tiananmens the HK protestors!

  41. feelthebern

    Re HK airport, it’s so easy to restrict access.
    So why did they allow it to proceed?
    Something stinks.
    It’s a trap.

  42. egg_

    If it bleeds, it leads.

    On the emasculated Left.

  43. notafan

    Kim and Steven Forrest, now 55, have been together since they were teenagers.

    I’m at a loss as to why he thinks he could retire at 55 with no savings, and a big credit card debt.

    I do love people who don’t care about money running up big credit card debts

    They clearly love buying stuff.

  44. notafan

    You are right IT
    Gullible naive assumes people are not lying or delusional

  45. feelthebern

    Fake pope frank is one of the worst people on the planet.

  46. rafiki redux

    The tampon post notes above is, on the face of it, just absurd. Is it possible that Jessica Yaniv is trolling? can we look forward to a book that that will reveal all the fun he is having gulling the likes of human rights bodies et al?

  47. feelthebern

    What does HK airport have that no where else in HK have?

  48. johanna

    Yeah, Lizzie, the solution to my software problems is always a retstart. It seems to work. I don’t have a lot of complaints about W10 when it is working (other than the confusing and pointless tile display you get when you click on the bottom left hand corner) but it does seem to need a restart every couple of days or it starts getting cranky. Clearing history doesn’t have the same effect.

    Oh, and happy birthday to me! Another year gone and no deeper in debt, in fact not in any debt.

    When I read those stories above of people who live for years right on the edge of disaster with credit cards and Hardly Normal debts and such, praying that nothing will ever go wrong, I despair. Whatever happened to ‘if you can’t afford it, don’t buy it.’ Whatever happened to ‘do not use credit just because someone offers it to you.’ If I had borrowed what I could have for my first house, I’d still be paying it off.

    That said, $5,000 is a ridiculously low threshhold for personal bankruptcy. I don’t know when it was set, but unlike fines, it clearly hasn’t been indexed.

  49. egg_

    If it bleeds, it leads.

    Pwong/KKK in the Senate.

  50. calli

    Youse rotters started the party without me!

    No worries. I’ve brought the snacks and the key to the grog cupboard.

  51. Geriatric Mayfly

    Fake pope frank is one of the worst people on the planet.

    Been wondering where he was. Obviously a holiday silence would explain why we have not been bombarded with his daily manifestos over recent times. Fear not; he is getting back into the swing of things.

  52. feelthebern

    HK airport is isolated geographically.
    It is easily cut off from entry (& exit points).
    There are more security cameras in the place than anywhere else in HK.
    There is a no fly zone so you can’t chopper over the place.
    They have emergency quarantine facilities for 50k people.

  53. cohenite

    rafiki redux

    #3130341, posted on August 13, 2019 at 10:44 am

    The tampon post notes above is, on the face of it, just absurd. Is it possible that Jessica Yaniv is trolling? can we look forward to a book that that will reveal all the fun he is having gulling the likes of human rights bodies et al?

    Oh no, there is no limit to human stupidity and weirdness. This creature is only mid-way. There’s new heights to reach; I think I read recently about some creature whose top half is male and bottom half female; or vice-versa.

  54. feelthebern

    If I was looking to mass detain a lot of people in HK & cut off coverage & access to them, I could not think of a better place to do it than HK airport.
    It’s a trap.

  55. feelthebern

    Wasn’t that he/she Yaniv thing arrested last week?

  56. Geriatric Mayfly

    I think I read recently about some creature whose top half is male and bottom half female; or vice-versa.

    Sounds like a right b- a- l- l- s up.

  57. calli

    Many happy returns, Joh.

  58. Infidel Tiger

    I can’t wait to see which “libertarian” apologists will be running interference for Beijing after it tiananmens the HK protestors!

    It’s already happening.

    The econometric people are fucking monsters.

  59. JC

    Rafki

    You seem obsessed with tampons. What’s wrong?

  60. feelthebern

    Eddie Murphy is back.

  61. JC

    Artie

    You belong to a generation who believe that an ugly dude walking around with a schlong is really a beautiful woman. Stop judging.

  62. Infidel Tiger

    Artie

    You belong to a generation who believe that an ugly dude walking around with a schlong is really a beautiful woman. Stop judging.

    Sorry dude, I’m Generation X. The last normal people to walk the planet.

    We find all of you revolting.

  63. feelthebern

    I fear for these protesters at HK airport.
    If they are mass incarcerated, there is literally nothing that can be done for them.

  64. Leigh Lowe

    I was rostered on as the tethered goat on the previous abandoned thread. It’s Leigh Lowe’s turn to keep him occupied.

    Yeah, nah … umm … gag reflex playing up this morning.
    Plus sock drawer in disarray and needs immediate attention.

  65. feelthebern

    You strike me as a sensible sock man LL.
    Not one of these dandies who wear fanciful, coloured, attention seeking socks.

  66. stackja

    Abortion legislation furore haunts Gladys Berejiklian while in the UK

    Senior ministers have descended into public slanging matches over changes to abortion legislation, causing even more damage to the NSW Government’s reputation while Premier Gladys Berejiklian remains overseas.
    Danielle Le Messurier, The Daily Telegraph
    Subscriber only

    August 13, 2019 7:15am

    Open warfare has erupted in the Berejiklian government over changes to abortion legislation, with senior ministers embroiled in public slanging matches while the Premier is overseas on a trade mission.

    Health Minister Brad Hazzard has been accused of misusing his department’s resources to lobby for the bill while Police Minister David Elliott has lashed colleague Andrew Constance for “maladministration” by pushing the debate through Parliament.

    Mr Elliott has also warned he has received “10 times more” inquiries from constituents over abortion legislation than he did for the controversial greyhound debate.

  67. Leigh Lowe

    Steven Swinford
    @Steven_Swinford

    Some senior Tory MPs resolutely opposed to no-deal are already privately admitting defeat:

    ‘Inside myself I’m saying I have lost, I have to admit it. It’s over. I don’t want to be part of it all [the rebel alliance]’

    Shorter version.
    “I’ve sniffed the wind. If I keep it up I am fucked at the next election. OK, I will cop shit for a while at snooty cocktail parties if I back Brexit, but I will still have my cushy MP job.”

  68. johanna

    Thanks for birthday wishes, and especially for the birthday song, calli. 🙂 Sure beats the usual dirge.

    I must say that clean living is over-rated as a life and enjoyment extender, speaking from experience. When I see all those grim-faced people power-walking, picking at their salads instead of eating proper food, and declining the third glass of wine, I just wonder if their parents dropped them on their heads or something.

    I will be celebrating with a luscious piece of dead and red at my favourite steakhouse in good company, not to mention at least three glasses of excellent wine, following an apertif, and concluded with a Drambuie or two.

    Nobody ever lay on their deathbed wishing they’d eaten more steamed tofu.

  69. stackja

    Abortion debate dominates NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian’s London visit

    NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian has denied she was taking an optimistic view that gender selection abortions would not happen under proposed new laws.
    Stephen Drill in London, News Corp Australia Network
    Subscriber only

    August 12, 2019 10:44pm

    NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian has denied she was taking an optimistic view that gender selection abortions would not happen under proposed new laws.

    Ms Berejiklian’s trade tour to Europe, which included a signing of a deal with BAE Systems in London for investment in the new Western Sydney airport, has been derailed by a public revolt at home.

    The Premier was asked tonight about a report from Victoria’s La Trobe University that cited as many as 300 cases of girls who were not born because of gender selection.

    Ms Berejiklian denied she was being optimistic that this pattern may not happen in New South Wales.

    “We take the best advice possible but can I want to assure the community that nobody supports that, nobody,” Ms Berejiklian said.

    “And we will do everything we can to make sure it remains illegal in New South Wales.

    “But of course we’ll also take the best advice we have as well.”

  70. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I was rostered on as the tethered goat on the previous abandoned thread. It’s Leigh Lowe’s turn to keep him occupied.

    My compliments on your post regarding Numbers Ho, marching in the Anzac Day parade because the R.S.L. had donated to the school.

  71. mh

    Feelthebern, why the sudden show of concern about what the Chicoms may do?

    I thought you were a pro China guy.

  72. Infidel Tiger

    I fear for these protesters at HK airport.
    If they are mass incarcerated, there is literally nothing that can be done for them.

    Fear not. The chicoms are just wonderful people who want nothing more than prosperity and to do a little business around the world.

  73. Infidel Tiger

    I thought you were a pro China guy.

    Reality is a cold mistress.

  74. Leigh Lowe

    feelthebern

    #3130377, posted on August 13, 2019 at 11:22 am

    You strike me as a sensible sock man LL

    Normally correct.
    But not today.
    My sock drawer contains 20 pairs of plain black and two other pairs.
    Today I happen to be wearing Santa-Kangaroo socks.
    Fuck my nieces and nephews are witty xunts when it comes to Kris Kringle.

  75. feelthebern

    Who wouldn’t be concerned about 10’s of thousands of people being lured into mass incarceration?

  76. feelthebern

    Protest in Central, walk home, cab home, MTR home.
    Protest in Airport, never seen or heard from ever again.

  77. stackja

    Viral video of abusive kids sparks response from Chief Minister

    The Territory Government is ‘doing everything we can’ to address anti-social behaviour, Chief Minister Michael Gunner said in response to a video of kids being abusive in Karama.
    NT News
    Subscriber only

    August 12, 2019 11:02am

    THE Chief Minister says the Territory Government is “doing everything we can” to address anti-social behaviour after footage of children hurling abuse at a Karama man went viral on social media.

    Michael Gunner told Mix FM while he hadn’t seen the footage himself, his government was investing “a lot of time and attention” into youth diversion.

    Footage of children hurling abuse at a Karama man has gone viral on social media. Picture: Supplied/Facebook

  78. Woolfe

    One thing noticeable on the Woodstock dodo, no tats or fat people.

  79. mh

    I thought Altamont looked better than Woodstock.

    Hells Angels beating up degenerate hippies, plus the Rolling Stones. What’s not to like?

  80. Leigh Lowe

    I was rostered on as the tethered goat on the previous abandoned thread. It’s Leigh Lowe’s turn to keep him occupied.

    My compliments on your post regarding Numbers Ho, marching in the Anzac Day parade because the R.S.L. had donated to the school.

    I would be a boy on a man’s errand after Mater’s masterful “here’s your arse on a plate, Bob” performances of late.
    And tethered goat?
    It seemed to me the tethered goat feigned sleep until the thrice-failed draft dodger got within range, then went for the jugular.

  81. feelthebern

    Mater was the hunter.
    Not the hunted.

  82. Shy Ted

    Can anyone suggest I do or don’t book a flight that has a 2hr stop in Hong Kong to fly in early September. Thanks in advance.

  83. feelthebern

    This Argie situation is not good for global liquidity.
    It’s not huge in the greater scheme of things, but there are rumours that some big funds have blown up buying Argie debt.
    It’s not the Argie debt that’s the concern.
    It’s all their other shit they own that they’ll have to sell to cover their margin.
    Might be a rough couple of days in high yield bond markets.

  84. Woolfe

    Shy Ted,
    No, find another route.

  85. Dr Fred Lenin

    I see the NY coroner wont sign epstein off as a suuicide ,no dooubt the coroner sees many suicides and regards this as suss. Also the elite paedos are not offf the hook yet , ~AG Barr is going tto pursue the enablers and pimps and some of the suspects with a view to finding the truth . The authorities are also chasing epsteins wealth with a view to freezing it to pay compensation to the victims . If I were one of the fuilty I would be dreading the kknock at the door at night ,quite intimidating and stressful ,and well deserved .
    Wonder if the Queen has had randy andy on the carpet to tear him a new one ?

  86. Infidel Tiger

    This Argie situation is not good for global liquidity.
    It’s not huge in the greater scheme of things, but there are rumours that some big funds have blown up buying Argie debt.
    It’s not the Argie debt that’s the concern.
    It’s all their other shit they own that they’ll have to sell to cover their margin.
    Might be a rough couple of days in high yield bond markets.

    Wait until China’s real foreign reserves level is exposed.

    They are leveraged to the to hilt. he ponzi can’t last much longer.

  87. Roger

    “But of course we’ll also take the best advice we have as well.”

    Taking a leaf out of Daniel Andrews’s book.

    Why not just hand over the reins of government to these anonymous experts and be done with politicians and their mealy mouthed words?

  88. Leigh Lowe

    On the Woodstock doco, there was footage of a draft form with a long hand-written list of conditions which the applicant hoped would preclude military service, including:-

    Communist;
    Compulsive masturbator;
    Marijuana smoker;
    Syphilis;

    He got deferred for a year.
    Imagine what the thrice-failed draft dodger could have done with an ounce of imagination.
    The above list would have been entirely plausible for Spud.

  89. feelthebern

    How’s the back IT?

  90. Leigh Lowe

    You can’t be suicided without leaving behind the instrument of destruction.
    Would be really interested to know what material it was, where it came from etc etc.

  91. Infidel Tiger

    Getting better. I’ve been carrying this awful blog for a decade and am feeling my age.

  92. Fisky

    Who wouldn’t be concerned about 10’s of thousands of people being lured into mass incarceration?

    Yeah that’s been going on for a while in W.China. On a much larger scale.

  93. C.L.

    Dolemite looks pretty good.

  94. C.L.

    Pope Frank is infuriating.

    He gets the big issues right about homos and abortion and then goes on these flights of fancy about warm weather.

    He has been mostly sound.

    That’s the conventional generous take on the man but I don’t buy it.
    He shields a lot of his heresy behind immovable props of orthodoxy that he couldn’t move an inch even if he wanted to.

  95. feelthebern

    Yeah that’s been going on for a while in W.China. On a much larger scale.

    That’s different.
    China realises they are at war with the RoP & act accordingly.
    What the west doesn’t accept is that the RoP will never stop.

  96. Infidel Tiger

    That’s different.
    China realises they are at war with the RoP & act accordingly.

    Ah no.

    Imprisoning 3 million people for thought crimes is not good.

  97. C.L.

    Average salary in construction soars to £46,000 as UK loses EU workers

    Geezers swoop as Poles skedaddle. I’m torn on this. Yes, it shows that native Britons were robbed by Brussels but how long before greed kicks in and the housing market slumps?

  98. feelthebern

    Bit more than thought crimes.

  99. feelthebern

    Bunch of totalitarians at war with another bunch of totalitarians.
    Hard to feel sorry for them.

  100. There was a doco about it on the SBS the other night. The footage of those 400,000 dirty babyboomers almost made me raise a handkerchief to my nostrils.

    Memories.
    When we were back in Nui Dat we played the reel to reel recording of Woodstock in our lines loud enough to be heard a clic away. They were sold out at the PX in a matter of days.
    I often wonder what any stray Vietnamese who shouldn’t have inside line Alpha thought of it.
    Most satisfying aspect was playing all those anti-war songs, and waiting for the powers that were to object.
    From memory, they included (amongst others) Buffalo Springfield, “For What It’s Worth” (1967)
    Country Joe MacDonald and the Fish – “The I-Feel-Like-I’m-Fixin’-to-Die Rag”

    And it’s one, two, three, what are we fighting for?
    Don’t ask me, I don’t give a damn,
    Next stop is Vietnam.
    And it’s five, six, seven, open up the pearly gates,
    Well there ain’t no time to wonder why,
    Whoopee! we’re all gonna die.
    They never did.

    By 1970, the writing was well and truly on the wall.

  101. mh

    Bunch of totalitarians at war with another bunch of totalitarians.
    Hard to feel sorry for them.

    Uighurs are totalitarians?

  102. Infidel Tiger

    Bunch of totalitarians at war with another bunch of totalitarians.
    Hard to feel sorry for them.

    The Uighyrs are as peaceful as any group in China.

    One way to radicalize them is mass prison camps.

  103. Roger

    Lo, peak stupidity is nigh:

    With rape becoming endemic in some Swedish cities, police are warning women not to go out at night alone. In the vast majority of cases the perpetrators are identified as dark skinned men, often several dark skinned men, in one instance up to ten dark skinned men.

    Meanwhile, the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention attributes the staggering rise in rapes to the advent of dating apps.

  104. cohenite

    The Premier was asked tonight about a report from Victoria’s La Trobe University that cited as many as 300 cases of girls who were not born because of gender selection.

    Ms Berejiklian denied she was being optimistic that this pattern may not happen in New South Wales.

    “We take the best advice possible but can I want to assure the community that nobody supports that, nobody,” Ms Berejiklian said.

    “And we will do everything we can to make sure it remains illegal in New South Wales.

    “But of course we’ll also take the best advice we have as well.”

    Gutless glad has the trifecta: ugly, conniving and stupid. This’ll outdo the greyhounds by a stretch. One of the dumbest things done by a political party ever; or if they didn’t do it, letting it be done to them.

  105. John Constantine

    https://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/12/world/asia/china-fences-in-its-nomads-and-an-ancient-life-withers.html

    In what amounts to one of the most ambitious attempts made at social engineering, the Chinese government is in the final stages of a 15-year-old campaign to settle the millions of pastoralists who once roamed China’s vast borderlands. By year’s end, Beijing claims it will have moved the remaining 1.2 million herders into towns that provide access to schools, electricity and modern health care.

    Official news accounts of the relocation rapturously depict former nomads as grateful for salvation from primitive lives. “In merely five years, herders in Qinghai who for generations roved in search of water and grass, have transcended a millennium’s distance and taken enormous strides toward modernity,” said a front-page article in the state-run Farmers’ Daily. “The Communist Party’s preferential policies for herders are like the warm spring breeze that brightens the grassland in green and reaches into the herders’ hearts.”

    The clearances of the irrigation districts of australias murray darling basin are poetically the warm spring breeze from turnbull that brightens the grassland and reaches into farmers hearts–and squeezes.

  106. Roger

    Most satisfying aspect was playing all those anti-war songs, and waiting for the powers that were to object. From memory, they included (amongst others) Buffalo Springfield, “For What It’s Worth” (1967)

    That’s not an anti-war song. Stephen Stills wrote it about the anti-curfew riots on Sunset Strip in 1966.

  107. feelthebern

    Uighurs are totalitarians?

    All RoP’ers are.

  108. John Constantine

    Nicholas Bequelin, the director of the East Asia division of Amnesty International, said the struggle between farmers and pastoralists is not new, but that the Chinese government had taken it to a new level. “These relocation campaigns are almost Stalinist in their range and ambition, without any regard for what the people in these communities want,” he said. “In a matter of years, the government is wiping out entire indigenous cultures.”

    A map shows why the Communist Party has long sought to tame the pastoralists. Rangelands cover more than 40 percent of China, from Xinjiang in the far west to the expansive steppe of Inner Mongolia in the north. The lands have been the traditional home to Uighurs, Kazakhs, Manchus and an array of other ethnic minorities who have bristled at Beijing’s heavy-handed rule.

    “These areas have always been hard to know and hard to govern by outsiders, seen as places of banditry or guerrilla warfare and home to peoples who long resisted integration,” said Charlene E. Makley, an anthropologist at Reed College, in Oregon, who studies Tibetan communities in China. “But now the government feels it has the will and the resources to bring these people into the fold.”

    Although efforts to tame the borderlands began soon after Mao Zedong took power in 1949, they accelerated in 2000 with a modernization campaign, “Go West,” that sought to rapidly transform Xinjiang and Tibetan-populated areas through enormous infrastructure investment, nomad relocations and Han Chinese migration.

    The more recent “Ecological Relocation” program, started in 2003, has focused on reclaiming the region’s fraying grasslands by decreasing animal grazing.

    Ecological relocation.

    This is the future for rewilded australia.

  109. Bruce in WA

    Flashback flying. Check out the food and the way people are dressed.

    Then they dropped prices and crammed more people onboard and the Bogan Brigade took to the air.

  110. calli

    Song lyrics can mean anything you want them to mean.

    It’s a long way to the shop if you wanna sausage roll.

  111. Mother Lode

    Compared to the whining, bleating rabble that followed, boomers are still the greatest generation.

    Boomers are the head lice on the giants of history.

    At the risk of inviting a tidal wave of disapprobation…

    The boomers were the first generation (in a long time) to abandon ‘building’ for the future, but to take the present as theirs to consume.

    For centuries people were raised to dedicate their lives to building a future and things to pass on to the next generation who would take it further – each generation taking the baton and carrying it until they passed it on. Kids aspired to be like their parents – and if their parents were crap they would aspire to someone else’s.

    Boomers decided the capital built up by preceding generations was not a foundation to build on but to casually live off.

    Rather than build on and add to what their parents had done they turned their idea of creation to things that were separate from their parents. Ages of Aquarius, hippy communes – all stuff that led nowhere but satisfied the boomers at the time.

    And subsequent generations have carried on the self-absorbed indolence, and each generation dismisses the previous one and thinks they are the first to discover this astonishing new liberated consciousness only to be found if you allow yourself to fall infinitely into your own navel.

  112. calli

    If Greta has her way, we’ll be back to the elites only flying, Bruce.

    Beautifully dressed? Sure are. Can’t imagine any of those elegant ladies having some Joisy bint’s clenched fist shoved up between their legs as I did at JFK. And then her hands all over her breasts.

    I’m sure they enjoyed the tears of shame erupt from my eyes. And I thought I was a tough old bat.

    Not going back to the states again. They can keep it and as the Don says “figure it out”.

  113. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Michael Gunner told Mix FM while he hadn’t seen the footage himself, his government was investing “a lot of time and attention” into youth diversion’

    Youth diversion? He’s not even trying any more, lauding the benefits of giving junior scrotes three or four dozen chances to avoid three squares a day and Foxtel.

    Hopeless.

  114. Dr Faustus

    Normally, sensible people would believe cockup over conspiracy every time.

    One of Jeffrey Epstein’s guards the night he hanged himself in his federal jail cell wasn’t a regular correctional officer, according to a person familiar with the detention center…

    Gets difficult with so many cocks involved.

  115. calli

    Boomers decided the capital built up by preceding generations was not a foundation to build on but to casually live off.

    An attitude fostered by the Whitlam Government. I had acquaintances at business college whose plan was to work for three months and dole it the rest of the year in FN NSW. Because the dole was just marginally less than their take home pay. Rancid stuff.

    Some of us (many in fact) didn’t buy in. As evidenced by the 1975 election when many youngsters, unable to vote in 72, had a crack.

    But the rot had well and truly begun, beginning with an un-indentured, aimless campus culture.

  116. pete m

    Mother Lode, as a sweeping generalisation it goes a little to explain that cultural shift, but as with all such things, a large percentage who did the opposite and led quiet lives to build for their children and strive for their community would be harshly dealt with by that sentiment.

    A bit like saying no millennial kid works hard.

    I think boomers by and large did try to build – no-one has paid more taxes than they have, for better health care for example.

    In the end a lot of learning to be done by every generation as it comes to power.

  117. Fisky

    China is not at war with the RoP. Firstly, the Hui minority face nothing like the treatment of the Uygurs. They are considered a loyal minority albeit a religious group. Second, nearly all the OIC support China’s repression of the Uygurs, seeing it as an anti-separatist measure.

  118. calli

    In the days since Epstein’s death while awaiting charges that he sexually abused underage girls, a portrait has begun to emerge of Manhattan’s federal detention center as a chronically understaffed facility that possibly made a series of missteps in handling its most high-profile inmate.

    As Yoda would say – there is no “possibly”.

    There is only bullsh*t.

  119. notafan

    I’m glad people like me can afford to fly.

    Our bogans are no worse than anyone else’s bogans.

    I believe however, of various reports are correct, that the Chinese leave Aussies in the dust for appalling travel behavior.

  120. Johanna:

    Yeah, Lizzie, the solution to my software problems is always a retstart. It seems to work.

    My laptop has been trying to install three Windows 10 viruses for about fifteen restarts now, still can’t get them onboard.

  121. Leigh Lowe

    Then they dropped prices and crammed more people onboard and the Bogan Brigade took to the air.

    If you want that DC8 space and comfort for the same fare in 2019 you can have it Bruce.
    It’s called Business Class.
    According to the WSJ, an average domestic US return fare in 1980 cost around USD600. You can do Business Class in the US on almost any route for that (it’s not flat-bed or anything, but way better than the DC8 pictured).

    I would argue that affordable international travel was hugely instrumental in helping to eliminate racial bigotry.
    Everyone knew someone who had travelled, many returning with tales of who jolly nice overseas folks were … and normal. Just like us, really.

  122. notafan

    Sounds dreadful Calli

    Last time I went to the US via the ME and went through their Homeland security outpost, landing at O’Hare was a breeze, straight to baggage carousel and out into the wild.

  123. Roger

    Song lyrics can mean anything you want them to mean.

    Post-modernist!

  124. Calli:

    Youse rotters started the party without me!
    No worries. I’ve brought the snacks and the key to the grog cupboard.

    The grog cupboard has a lock?
    Who knew?

  125. calli

    This is true, nota. Aussies, on the whole (and there are many…many travelling), are pretty well-behaved.

    Except at bogan magnets like Kuta.

    Now that the AUD has tanked, our national embarassments will probably be stuck here.

    And, oddly enough, they won’t be the much maligned boomers.

  126. cohenite

    Beautifully dressed? Sure are. Can’t imagine any of those elegant ladies having some Joisy bint’s clenched fist shoved up between their legs as I did at JFK. And then her hands all over her breasts.

    WTF?!

  127. Some History

    Ms Thunberg, 16, began the “Friday school strike’’ movement outside the Swedish parliament last year

    What some kids will do to get out of school.

  128. calli

    The “key” is a crow bar, Winston.

    Anyone can use it. 😁

  129. Infidel Tiger

    Now that the AUD has tanked, our national embarassments will probably be stuck here.

    AUD has only tanked against USD.

    It’s still very strong comparatively to all the other failed states.

  130. Tom

    Then they dropped prices and crammed more people onboard and the Bogan Brigade took to the air.

    Bruce in WA, low-cost carriers that have ditched business class and all the trappings required to pamper the corporates have the highest operating margins in the history of air travel, typically 15-25%, which high-cost full-service carriers like Qantas can only dream about.

    Europe’s biggest and most profitable airline is a shitbucket low-cost carrier called Ryanair and America’s biggest domestic airline is LCC Southwest, which hasn’t lost money in 50 years.

    Just sayin’.

  131. notafan

    Our bogans would no different to younger Germans,Brits etc having weekend benders in more southern parts of Europe (I do notice the number of airbnb places who will not take certain types of ‘parties’)

    In any case Kuta loves them, otherwise they would not encourage them with cheap bars and booze.

  132. Mother Lode

    Only meant as a generalisation – or rather more of an illustration of the zeitgeist.

    In spite of the profile of hippies, for example, they would have been pretty easily a minority. A lot of the fashions may have gone mainstream – a kid working in a shoe store would have worn some of the clothes without ever getting around to turning on, tuning in and dropping out.

    But the thinking burst into the mainstream, with rather too much indulgence and acquired a growing impetus of its own.

  133. Infidel Tiger

    The boomers were the first generation (in a long time) to abandon ‘building’ for the future, but to take the present as theirs to consume.

    A succinct summation.

    The Boomers are leaners, moochers and shirkers.

  134. calli

    Yes, cohenite. It’s true.

    An African American border guard was apologetic when the Beloved asked if the “treatment” was necessary. I wondered at the time if the men there were afraid of that b*tch. She did exactly the same thing to the well dressed older woman in front of me too.

    We were so clearly terrorists.

  135. calli

    Every generation blames their parents.

    It’s what they do.

  136. notafan

    Boomers are the one that coined the phrase ‘spending the kids inheritance’ aren’t they?

    I might be a tail end boomer but that I will not be doing.

  137. calli

    They don’t, you know. Probably better to threaten no inheritance than to watch layabouts wait for you to die.

  138. notafan

    Hopefully waiting a very long time if they are layabouts, calli.

  139. calli

    Dependence on inherited money is a sure-fire way to make moochers from workers.

    My kids were told to make their own way and they have. The buggers are richer than I could ever hope to be.

    Another boomerism – “Fly first class. If you don’t, be sure your children will.” 😀

  140. Percy Popinjay

    Altamont looked better than Woodstock.

    Hells Angels beating up degenerate hippies, plus the Rolling Stones. What’s not to like?

    “Gimme Shelter” includes this legendary monologue from the (regrettable) event’s “head of security”, explaining how things panned out as they did, man.

    Bad drugs, crazed naked hippies and pissed off Hells Angels. What could possibly go wrong, indeed.

  141. Roger

    The boomers were the first generation (in a long time) to abandon ‘building’ for the future, but to take the present as theirs to consume.

    The flappers and the young sheiks of the Jazz Age gave it their best until the ’29 crash.

    “Why should life be work, when we all can borrow. Let’s think only of today, and not worry about tomorrow.”

    Zelda Fitzgerald

  142. Mater

    Dependence on inherited money is a sure-fire way to make moochers from workers.

    Grandpa Mater:

    “Give them enough to do something, but not enough to do nothing!”

  143. johanna

    calli, the dress for flying is a bit chicken and egg these days. When I used to travel for work, wearing business suit (skirt and jacket), stockings and heels, being crammed into a narrow seat in cattle class with about eight inches of legroom was very uncomfortable indeed – and these were relatively short flights. The passenger space was much larger and more comfortable in the old days, plus it was easy to get up and walk around for a bit to stretch yourself.

    I don’t blame people for wanting to wear loose, comfortable clothes on modern aircraft, especially on long flights.

  144. Knuckle Dragger

    Damn straight, calli.

    I used to tell Junior KD that he’d get 100% of everything I had in the highly unlikely event of my death at any stage.

    He was delighted. Then he realised 100% of 0 is 0.

    Perhaps I should have offered him 361%.

  145. Mother Lode

    I might be a tail end boomer but that I will not be doing.

    I dunno.

    I watched an episode of Forensic Files last night, where a guy bumped his mum off so he could get his hands on a $4 million inheritance.

    Not saying the same will happen to you, but be very wary if Junior asks you to carry a VCR up stair in your nightgown.

  146. P

    From CNA, Melbourne, Australia, Aug 12, 2019 / 11:52 am

    Sources close to Pell told CNA that his legal team is preparing for a decision as early as this week and that, while they are hopeful of a favorable outcome, “every possibility is being considered, nothing is being taken as read.”

  147. Mak Siccar

    Snigger snigger chortle.

    Scott Adams’s ‘Dilbert’ exposes the Democrats’ debate strategy
    By James Stansbury

    The Dilbert comic strip by Scott Adams has a way of simplifying the most complex issues. He did it again the Sunday before last.

    Wally, the wily office slacker, has nailed it. Scott has a way of simplifying the most complex issues and did it again in his Sunday, August 4, 2019 strip, where Wally demonstrated his circular debating technique to a coworker.

    The Dilbert comic strip by Scott Adams has a way of simplifying the most complex issues. He did it again the Sunday before last.

    A short read that is well worth it.

    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/08/scott_adamss_dilbert_exposes_the_democrats_debate_strategy.html

    But I like this bit best of all.

    Wally’s fictitious debate-winning strategy was to some extent revealed 30 years ago in one of the most insightful management books I ever read: The Goal: A Process of Ongoing Improvement by Eliyahu M. Goldratt. In effect, Mr. Goldratt posited that anyone who believes that logic and facts can overcome emotion has never been married. Therefore, the only way to overcome emotion is with a stronger emotion. His profound observation may help explain why the Left so despises Trump. Unlike virtually all other Republicans, Trump delivers the stronger emotion necessary to frustrate the left’s game that until 2016 had been so successful.

  148. Leigh Lowe

    pete m

    #3130452, posted on August 13, 2019 at 1:01 pm

    Mother Lode, as a sweeping generalisation it goes a little to explain that cultural shift, but as with all such things, a large percentage who did the opposite and led quiet lives to build for their children and strive for their community would be harshly dealt with by that sentiment.

    A bit like saying no millennial kid works hard.

    I think boomers by and large did try to build – no-one has paid more taxes than they have, for better health care for example.

    Tend to agree.
    Try 47 percent top marginal tax rates, and mortgage rates of 16 percent (capped at 11.5% if you were lucky).
    The generalisations are, of course, silly and simplistic.
    Many boomers grew up with frugal parents and grandparents and adopted the same habits.
    Having said that, there is a significant boomer cohort who are as described.
    I remember talking to a work colleague in the 1980’s about superanuation and I was shocked to hear him say, “Well, my parents won’t live forever.”
    It was both the mercenary attitude to his parents and lack of personal responsibility and independence that I found shocking.
    He was an only child.
    That is the key determinant.
    Boomers from large families don’t tend to have that narcissistic trait.

  149. feelthebern

    WeChat footage shows that the HK terminal has mainly emptied out.
    A huge sigh of relief for now.
    My fear was that they’d trap them there.

  150. Top Ender

    You can bin the assumptions — recycling is expensive
    JUDITH SLOAN

    I am old enough to remember milk being delivered each morning in glass bottles. We would eagerly­ drink it and mum would wash the bottles, ready to be collected the next day and replaced­ with full ones.

    On the rare occasions we had soft drink, my sister and I would race down to the local milk bar to receive the small deposit (was it threepence?) that was attached to the purchase of that bottle of Tarax lemonade.

    I recount those days to make the contrast with today’s debate­ about recycling and the mess in which we find ourselves. Then we were talking about re-use — not recycling. It was small-scale and it was local.

    Bottles weren’t smashed to be recycled. They were thoroughly washed and re-used. For various reasons, the re-use option has largely disappeared. What we are debating today is quite different.

    The critical issues in the recycling debate are its high cost (collection, sorting, energy) and the absence of profitable markets for most recycled products. The combination of these factors, plus the effective refusal of China and other Asian countries to take waste, means there are no easy solutions­ to what is fast becoming a disaster.

    For example, in 2016-17, almost 13 million tonnes of waste was generated in Victoria. At least one-third went to landfill. The rest was recovered or collected for recycling. No one can be sure what happened to this portion because the government agency, Sustainability Victoria, has dropped the ball on reliable data collection.

    In a recent report by the Victorian Auditor-General, Recovering and Reprocessing Resources from Waste, a damning picture emerges­ of government agencies failing to meet their core object­ives while ignoring the implic­ations of the creeping ban around Asia on the import of waste since 2013.

    It is increasingly common for waste to be sent to landfill or stockpiled. These stockpiles pose serious safety and environmental risks. There was a fire at a recycling plant in Coolaroo operated by recycling firm SKM, which is now in liquidation.

    There are more than 700 shipping containers of recycled mater­ial hanging around the Port of Melbourne that can no longer be shipped overseas. The company that ordered the transportation of the material was none other than SKM. Needless to say, the transport company has not been paid.

    Scott Morrison’s achieved agreement at last week’s Council of Australian Governments meeting that the nation would no longer export its waste was essentially for show. The receiving countries had made it clear that previous practices will no longer apply, effectively forcing this outcome on every state and territory.

    The dilemma is how state and territory governments deal with this without imposing undue costs and burdens on their citizens. There is a tremendous amount of fuzzy thinking and sloganeering, including the development of a so-called circular economy.

    In Victoria, there are self-interested calls for the introduction of a container deposit scheme along the lines of other states. Environment Minister Lily D’Ambrosio made the first sensible decision of her ministerial career by declaring that such a scheme was not the “answer to kerbside recycling”.

    Not only has the Productivity Commission assessed the costs of these schemes to outweigh their benefits, but the experience of NSW points to very significant implementation problems that are costly to rectify.

    Moreover, the diversion of used aluminium cans, the only recycled­ product that produces a serious economic return, away from kerbside recycling will further­ undermine the latter.

    Mind you, D’Ambrosio has been sitting on a Sustainability Fund of more than $500 million amassed through landfill levies. It would seem the Victorian Treas­urer would rather retain this fund on the asset side of the state’s balance­ sheet than see it used for the purposes it was collected. These include “fostering environmentally sustainable use of resourc­es and best practices in waste management”.

    Scepticism should be applied when assessing the contributions of many in this industry. They will always make big environmental claims while seeking the assistance of taxpayers and ratepayers.

    Consider this quote from one consultant: “Industry is very supporti­ve of a positive procurement policy where government and businesses preferentially purchase recycled content. Part of the solution is positive procurement and part of the solution is infrastructure, but industry can’t and won’t invest in new technologies unless there’s an economic return. At the moment, they are outcompeted by cheap landfill.” What he is really saying is that the industry requires regulatory assistance along with government subsidies.

    Another suggestion is to force households to further sort and wash their recycled material, includin­g separating soft and hard plastic. This will involve extra containers, despite many people living in very small premises that would rule out this option. More waste management education is on the cards, including exhortations to minimise waste creation.

    One sensible policy option in Victoria that was raised only briefly, then reject­ed, was the burning of waste material in purpose-built incinerators with scrubbers installed. This option would also generate electricity that could provide valuable back-up power to renewable energy sources.

    This is common in Sweden and Japan. Indeed, Sweden imports waste for this purpose. Burning waste generates carbon dioxide but then landfills generate methane, a more toxic greenhouse gas. That said, best-practice landfills will also be part of the solution.

    The bottom line is that recycling is imposed people-­management, with the message being that we are all contributing to saving the planet by diligently sorting our rubbish. The reality has always been markedly different from this message and it is getting­ worse.

    Waste for recycling must be collected, sorted and sent on for recovery or reprocessing. The entir­e cycle is itself costly and energy­-intensive, something that must be taken into account when considering policy options. With the rising price of electricity and the withdrawal of those previously helpful receiving countries, there are no easy solutions to this serious public policy problem.

    JUDITH SLOAN
    CONTRIBUTING ECONOMICS EDITOR

    Link

  151. johanna

    Winston Smith
    #3130457, posted on August 13, 2019 at 1:08 pm

    Johanna:

    Yeah, Lizzie, the solution to my software problems is always a retstart. It seems to work.

    My laptop has been trying to install three Windows 10 viruses for about fifteen restarts now, still can’t get them onboard.

    Commiserations, Winston, but honesty compels me to say that I have no trouble at all with W10 updates. I can only speculate that either you have some incompatible software on your machine (which may or may not be down to you) or you have a fault in the hardware.

  152. feelthebern

    Well, my parents won’t live forever.”

    Especially in Victoria.
    What’s that nanna ?
    Sniffle?
    Better get the top nanna kit ready.
    PS, where’s your last portfolio valuation nanna?

  153. Leigh Lowe

    calli

    #3130462, posted on August 13, 2019 at 1:11 pm

    This is true, nota. Aussies, on the whole (and there are many…many travelling), are pretty well-behaved.

    Except at bogan magnets like Kuta.

    Getting shiffaced on Bundy and stackin’ your 125cc Honda into a fuckin’ palm tree wiv no helmet is loike, a roight of passage dude.

  154. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Waste for recycling must be collected, sorted and sent on for recovery or reprocessing. The entir­e cycle is itself costly and energy­-intensive, something that must be taken into account when considering policy options. With the rising price of electricity and the withdrawal of those previously helpful receiving countries, there are no easy solutions to this serious public policy problem.

    the minimum wage will ensue recycling is not possible here ever.

    the solution is simple, stop the recycling bullshit

  155. Some History

    Jane Carosene

    The ‘left’ is not perfect. Nor is feminism or environmentalism or anti-fascism, but their flaws are no reason to despise them. In essence the left fight (sometimes badly, sometimes well) for equity, the disposed and the disadvantaged. I am proud to be a leftie.

    https://twitter.com/JaneCaro/status/1160883264854167553?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

  156. pete m

    W10 updates have twice stalled, but on restarts, worked. Last one was very big so needed a long time to download and then load into the computer, but a bit of patience and it worked.

    If your internet connection mucks up it can wreck the download and better to re-start it.

  157. Helen

    a week or so ago someone posted their or a link to an awful facts guest points where global warmening and MDB bulldust could be factually stated as a dinner guest form hell amongst the woke vironmentalists.

    Cant find it – can someone repost? Thanks

  158. 13 million tonnes of waste was generated in Victoria.

    That is not such a large hole.
    Dig it bury it, simples.

  159. Mother Lode

    for equity

    I suspect she means equality.

    In fact, they don’t understand what they are fighting against, don’t understand how things work, eschew science, think in cliches, believe rhetoric has a quantitative dimension, and imagine no one else but themselves is right, and that what they think is right must be imposed by legal means since nature will have no truck with their tortured and contrived self-defeating visions of the utopia.

  160. Mitch M.

    Commiserations, Winston, but honesty compels me to say that I have no trouble at all with W10 updates. I can only speculate that either you have some incompatible software on your machine (which may or may not be down to you) or you have a fault in the hardware.

    I was having problems with updates until I uninstalled TrendMicro antivirus. Antivirus software is often a cause of update issues. Haven’t had a single update issue. Because in the last 2 years Windows Defender has improved so much(a recent analysis placed it in the best category) I now rely on it alone. Additionally the recent feature update has enhanced security features.

    Recently I looked at a friend’s computer and was shocked to find that Hewlett Packard module was consuming 50% of all cpu resources. I managed to fix that but still haven’t found a solution for his Spotify account because that is using 30%. He wondered why he is computer was so slow … . With a total of 80% cpu resources consumed by those two programs he ran the risk of burning out his cpu in summer. It’s a good idea to occasionally open Task Manager to look at cpu usage. In typical usage with several programs loaded mine won’t go over 10%. As a general rule unless you are familiar with how to maintain a pc it is worth considering have a technie go over your computer every 2 years. We service our cars, we should do the same for our computers.

  161. notafan

    Boomers from large families don’t tend to have that narcissistic trait.

    exact

  162. notafan

    and the ‘disposed’ meaning
    inclined or willing?

    or
    Indisposed?

    Dispossessed?

  163. Top Ender:

    It is increasingly common for waste to be sent to landfill or stockpiled. These stockpiles pose serious safety and environmental risks. There was a fire at a recycling plant in Coolaroo operated by recycling firm SKM, which is now in liquidation.

    IIRC, TE, SKM was monstered to death by the government essentially taking over the running of the business and aggressive enforcement of the laws pertaining to recycling by the department responsible.
    IOW – the recycling industry has been nationalised and driven into the ground by the Greens, using government mandated costs and charges to do so.
    IMHO.

  164. Infidel Tiger

    Boomers are hardly likely to admit they are wastrels. That sort of introspection is beyond them.

    It’s up to us to let them know. A fitting time is when we pull the plug on them.

  165. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Imprisoning 3 million people for thought crimes is not good.

    it’s not prison, it’s a musloid virus disinfection process. once the victim is free of symptoms they can be released back into the wild to live productive and happy lives

  166. cohenite

    The ‘left’ is not perfect. Nor is feminism or environmentalism or anti-fascism, but their flaws are no reason to despise them. In essence the left fight (sometimes badly, sometimes well) for equity, the disposed and the disadvantaged. I am proud to be a leftie.

    Kerosene is a lying cow; the left do what they do brilliantly and for one reason only: self-regard.

  167. Leigh Lowe:

    Getting shiffaced on Bundy and stackin’ your 125cc Honda into a fuckin’ palm tree wiv no helmet is loike, a roight of passage dude.

    Why on earth would a palm tree be wearing a helmet?

  168. Des Deskperson

    Speaking of ‘socialism’ in China on the old thread, any observant traveller in the PRC would have seen wall posts extolling the ‘Core Socialist Values’, part of a national campaign “to rebuild faith amid concerns that the world’s second-largest economy has lost its moral compass during its three-decade economic miracle. comprise a set of moral principles” They are being particularly flogged in the schools:

    “Core socialist values should be incorporated into the curriculum and classrooms and made a way of thinking for students.”

    The 12 values actually have little direct relationship to ‘socialism’. Rather they are the sort of generic, broad aspirational – well, platitudes – that presumably any organised civilisation would claim would want to embrace. They are:

    prosperity, democracy, civility, harmony, freedom, equality, justice, the rule of law, patriotism, dedication, integrity and friendliness.

    Theses values can , of course, be interpreted and applied rather freely.

    The wall posters I’ve seen are illustrated with the same sort of manga-ish and slightly puerile figures that officialdom seems to like to use in pronouncements dealing, say, with road safety or behaviour on the subway.

    I can’t yet find any examples on line of these illustrations. although, IIRC, the one dealing with law and order shows police raiding cock fight in an evil-looking drug den.

  169. notafan

    Has laverton north waste to energy been canned?

    However the $100 million plant cannot commence until it has also been approved by the Environment Protection Authority.

    Laverton North

  170. PeteM:

    If your internet connection mucks up it can wreck the download and better to re-start it.

    I kind of like the idea of one of Gates viruses constantly trying to install itself – and failing each and every time. It appeals to my sense of justice.

  171. notafan

    Still a possibility

    Have your say

    5 Aug 2019

    Environment Protection Authority Victoria (EPA) is assessing a works approval application for a proposed waste to energy plant at Laverton North.

    The applicant, Recovered Energy Australia Pty Ltd, proposes to develop a waste-to-energy facility to process 200,000 tonnes/year of source separated residual municipal solid waste.

    The proposed facility is to be located at 28 Alex Fraser Drive, Laverton North VIC 3026.

    Recovered Energy Australia Pty Ltd proposes to deliver approximately 15 MW of electricity to the grid and seeks to divert municipal solid waste currently destined for landfill.

    The proposal utilises a modular system of vertical rotary thermal gasifiers, and is classified under legislation as an A08 (Waste to energy) and K01 (Power station) scheduled premises.

    EPA will assess the proposal against all relevant environmental policies and guidelines and look at any potential environmental and human health impacts that could result from the proposed facility.

    Separate from a possible EPA Works Approval, Recovered Energy Australia has secured a planning permit from Wyndham City Council to construct and operate the proposed facility.

    The application is currently available on the Engage Victoria website with further information on how to make a submission available from Wednesday, 7 August 2019. You can see the application here: https://engage.vic.gov.au/epa-works-approvals/recovered-energy-australia

    Interested persons are invited to make submissions regarding the proposal by 28 August 2019.

    Submissions can either be sent by email to [email protected] or by mail:

    EPA invites comment on proposed waste to energy plant at Laverton North

  172. notafan

    iS 15 mw from a waste to energy the same as 15 Mw from coal or solar?

    …not all MWs are created equal. According to the Solar Energy Industries Association, the number of homes powered by a MW of solar energy depends on average sunshine, electricity consumption, temperature and wind. Nationally, that’s 164 homes per MW—a far cry from the ratio of 1 MW:1,000. Website commodities-now.com has a more precise—and circuitous—way of finding how many homes are supplied by a MW, with a formula that includes regional yearly average usage, the type of power plant and how efficient it is. The spread ranges from 400-900 homes per MW hour, with coal at 60 percent capacity or more, and solar at less than 25 percent. So 1 MW of solar could equate to 164 homes; 400-900 homes; or 1,000 homes.

    Megawhat?
    How many homes can you power with a single megawatt

  173. cohenite

    Liam Hemsworth feels like an idiot after his break up with tongue girl, who I must say sounds like a hoot:

    The break-up comes after Miley spoke to Elle magazine last month about how she ‘doesn’t fit into a stereotypical wife role.’
    ‘I think it’s very confusing to people that I’m married. But my relationship is unique,’ she said.
    ‘I mean, do people really think that I’m at home in a f**ing apron cooking dinner? I’m in a hetero relationship, but I still am very sexually attracted to women.’
    ‘People become vegetarian for health reasons, but bacon is still f**ing good, and I know that,’ she added.
    ‘I made a partner decision. This is the person I feel has my back the most. I definitely don’t fit into a stereotypical wife role. I don’t even like that word.’

    The big fucking wuss wanted kids with the tongue girl; FMD.

  174. Ragu

    Fark. Some xunt just dropped a knife right beside us and then went Allah akbar. York st SYD CBD

  175. Ragu

    Fark. Some xhunt just dropped a knife right beside us and then went Allah akbar. York st SYD CBD

  176. cohenite

    notafan

    #3130524, posted on August 13, 2019 at 2:15 pm

    iS 15 mw from a waste to energy the same as 15 Mw from coal or solar?

    That is bullshit.

    Fossils, nuclear and hydro produce power continuously, predictably and reliably and at the right frequency for a modern grid which is based on the number of turbine revolutions in a magnetic field. Ruinables produce the wrong frequency, the wrong type of electricity and cannot be predicted from minute to minute let alone from week to week or month to month. A MW of electricity from ruinables is therefore essentially useless. A grid running entirely on ruinables is a contradiction in terms.

  177. Ragu

    Fark. Some xhunt just dropped a knife right beside us and then went Allens snakbar. York st SYD CBD

  178. notafan

    Liam Hemsworth married a skanky ho/future cat lady.

    He was a dill.

  179. Ragu

    Fark. Some xhunt just dropped a knife right beside us and then went Allans snakbar. York st SYD CBD

  180. notafan

    I don’t think you answered my question Cohenite.

    I would assume/guess that waste to energy would perform much like the former, not the later, which is explained in the article I linked, I think.

  181. Des Deskperson:

    The 12 values actually have little direct relationship to ‘socialism’. Rather they are the sort of generic, broad aspirational – well, platitudes – that presumably any organised civilisation would claim would want to embrace. They are:
    prosperity, democracy, civility, harmony, freedom, equality, justice, the rule of law, patriotism, dedication, integrity and friendliness.

    All these qualities shown in large amounts Here, and here.
    Oh, and here.

  182. Ragu

    This moderation is baffling.

    I’m in SYD, York st, and some delightful chap dropped a blade 1 meter from us and went a bit silly

  183. Ragu

    Coppers running in All directions. Stay safe SYD CBD Cats

  184. mh

    Good stuff from Fisky

    Fisky
    #3130454, posted on August 13, 2019 at 1:04 pm
    China is not at war with the RoP. Firstly, the Hui minority face nothing like the treatment of the Uygurs. They are considered a loyal minority albeit a religious group. Second, nearly all the OIC support China’s repression of the Uygurs, seeing it as an anti-separatist measure.

  185. Notafan:

    However the $100 million plant cannot commence until it has also been approved by the Environment Protection Authority.

    As above comment #3130511, posted on August 13, 2019 at 2:03 pm.
    Like the bans on radioactive waste, the environmentalist movement would like to stop recycling not because they want the problem fixed. They want the problem made worse because they can continue to virtue signal over the ‘problem.’

  186. mh

    Maybe Liam Hemsworth can sing achy breaky heart to her.

  187. Infidel Tiger

    it’s not prison, it’s a musloid virus disinfection process. once the victim is free of symptoms they can be released back into the wild to live productive and happy lives

    No.

    This is fascist nonsense. They Uighyrs were there long before the Chinks.

  188. Mater

    Notafan,
    As long as you can keep the fuel up to it, it would be ‘dispatchable generation’ like coal or gas.
    In other words, it can produce electricity on demand.

  189. Option 2 for waste:

    Pyrolyze the lot.

    Really simple if you have an excess of watts. For example a nuke.

  190. Mother Lode

    Oh, I reckon Miley will provide no end of amusement when he star begins to wane and she feels she must become more outrageous to recapture the limelight.

    Madonna was strange enough, but she had nowhere near the addiction to be considered the last word in enfant terrible.

  191. cohenite

    I would assume/guess that waste to energy would perform much like the former, not the later, which is explained in the article I linked, I think.

    If waste, whatever that is, is powering a turbine, as coal, oil or gas does, it will power a grid. I think they do that in Honkers and Singapore where they shove their plastic bags which are essentially methane in solid form, wait a few months and then extract the CH4 from the waste.

    But it’s basically small potatoes compared to coal and gas.

  192. Ragu
    #3130537, posted on August 13, 2019 at 2:28 pm
    This moderation is baffling.

    I’m in SYD, York st, and some delightful chap dropped a blade 1 meter from us and went a bit silly

    Ragu, what exactly do you mean by “dropped a blade”?

  193. notafan

    Thankyou Mater

    what I thought then

  194. notafan

    Ragu you were very near the stabber then?

  195. Zippy:

    it’s not prison, it’s a musloid virus disinfection process. once the victim is free of symptoms they can be released back into the wild to live productive and happy lives

    You forgot the “…in cheerful squalor” at the end, just for IT.

  196. Ragu

    A knife. Just ambling north along York St and heard someone drop something, we all turned around and young mate picks up his knife and starts Allen’s snackbaring.

    Thankfully he headed toward King St

  197. Ragu

    About a meter away, Nota.

  198. Ragu

    Thank fuck he dropped the knife

  199. Not Uh oh
    #3130553, posted on August 13, 2019 at 2:41 pm

    Ragu, what exactly do you mean by “dropped a blade”?

    Ah, I see. The gentleman in question has apparently been taken into custody.

  200. notafan

    Jeepers Ragu as close a call as anyone could want.

  201. Up The Workers!

    “13 million tonnes of waste was generated in Victoria.”

    And that was just Dodgy Dan’s list of broken promises from the first time he conned his way into Office.

  202. notafan

    But it’s basically small potatoes compared to coal and gas.

    Yes but a two birds with one stone small potato.

  203. notafan

    especially when they are proposing to process 200,000 tonnes of waste out of 12 million produced annually

  204. Ellie

    Coppers running in All directions. Stay safe SYD CBD Cats

    I’m in the city centre at work and we’ve just gone into lockdown. We were told there’s an armed person in the area of Clarence Street and King Street.

  205. Tom

    Raw copy from the Paywallian, including plod Tweets:

    Multiple people have reportedly been stabbed in the heart of Sydney’s CBD as police have been seen restraining and escorting a suspected attacker.

    Authorities have put out an urgent warning to avoid the area around King Street and Clarence Street, with multiple emergency vehicles seen.

    Police operation King & Clarence St, Sydney CBD. Please avoid the area. More to come…
    — NSW Police Force (@nswpolice) August 13, 2019
    Reports suggest multiple people were stabbed with a machete.

    Workers on their lunch break have filmed a man being arrested.

  206. Ragu

    Dunno if we were a target. I’m a bit dozy from a few Reds from a birthday lunch and my lady was carrying our 5 week old.

  207. Fisky

    I reckon Taiwan could really hit Beijing hard on HK after the shooting starts:

    -don’t declare independence (i.e. maintain the long-term goal of one China), but announce a permanent end to all further political/administrative integration so long as the CCP is running Beijing
    -offer asylum and citizenship to any HK resident who wants it
    -this will REALLY piss off Beijing: run a full-spectrum propaganda offensive aiming at the moral foundations of the PRC, with particular focus on the person of Mao Tse-Tung and all of his depravities

  208. feelthebern

    Looks like the chap ran straight past my office.

  209. Infidel Tiger

    We need to reopen many many mental hospitals.

    There are so many deranged loonies getting about it’s farcical.

  210. Dr Fred Lenin

    Nasty Fisky, attacking the ggreat heroes of the modern fascists .. people will be attacking the clintons next.

  211. Cassie of Sydney

    This happened whilst I was at lunch…….I went for a walk …have just got back because of delays…I walked to Town Hall from the Quay and whilst walking I noticed a lot of police. I didn’t see anything probably because I walked underneath QVB. Dear God…. I pray nobody has died or is seriously injured.

  212. feelthebern

    The plod will arrest the people for restraining the chap, no doubt.
    If it was in Melb, VicPol would have given him an escort to a place where he could have stabbed more people.

  213. struth

    In essence the left make it look like they fight (sometimes badly, sometimes well) for equity, the disposed and the disadvantaged. I am proud to be a leftie. (virtue signalling….yes , it’s really all about you, dear)

  214. feelthebern

    The plod all over it.
    Great to see that the metadata laws are working well.

  215. Percy Popinjay

    The ALPBC has reported the alleged carbon based lifeform of no appearance only injured one person in the Sydneystan CBD. Silly Moaning Hemorrhoid reports multiple casualties. Gee, which do you believe?

    Video taken at the scene shows passers-by using chairs, a crow bar and a milk crate to apprehend the offender, before he was arrested by authorities.

    Also saw mention of the use of a fire hydrant. Great work, peoples.

  216. feelthebern

    Well I’m irritated.
    Not perpetually though.

  217. Leigh Lowe

    the minimum wage will ensue recycling is not possible here ever.

    the solution is simple, stop the recycling bullshit

    Send it to low security jails to sort.
    Get the fuckers of Foxtel and playing pool.

  218. Infidel Tiger

    Check this footage of civilians taking matters into their own hands:

    https://twitter.com/Andrew_Denney/status/1161134805993439233

    Pity they weren’t able to access firearms.

  219. Louis

    So I wonder what the media narrative will be;
    Mental health
    Knife crime
    Toxic masculinity
    White male/nationalist terrorism
    Anti-abortion extremism

  220. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Infidel Tiger
    #3130360, posted on August 13, 2019 at 10:57 am

    I can’t wait to see which “libertarian” apologists will be running interference for Beijing after it tiananmens the HK protestors!

    What is this unprovoked and fallacious, false & untrue umbrage?

    The CCP and CMC, I hope they find what they are looking for.

  221. feelthebern

    During this knife attack, the questions have to be asked.
    Where was Tony Abbott?
    Was Pell responsible?
    Did climate change play a part?

  222. feelthebern

    Ragu, where did you have lunch?
    Bopp & Tone?
    Or the Fairmont?

  223. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Mental health
    Knife crime
    Toxic masculinity
    White male/nationalist terrorism
    Anti-abortion extremism
    Where was Tony Abbott?
    Was Pell responsible?
    Did climate change play a part?
    He just needed to get laid
    He was autistic
    Not enough outreach programmes

  224. Cassie of Sydney

    “feelthebern
    #3130602, posted on August 13, 2019 at 3:24 pm
    During this knife attack, the questions have to be asked.
    Where was Tony Abbott?
    Was Pell responsible?
    Did climate change play a part?”

    You forgot to add the name…..Trump.

  225. Infidel Tiger
    #3130598, posted on August 13, 2019 at 3:19 pm
    Check this footage of civilians taking matters into their own hands:

    Good to see the girls pitching in to help. /sarc

  226. Mater

    During this knife attack, the questions have to be asked.
    Where was Tony Abbott?
    Was Pell responsible?
    Did climate change play a part?

    Where were the bollards when we needed them?

  227. Infidel Tiger

    Was there a Chicom plant on QANDA last night calling the HK protesters “terrorists”‘?

    Close the place down.

  228. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Mental health
    Knife crime
    Toxic masculinity
    White male/nationalist terrorism
    Anti-abortion extremism
    Where was Tony Abbott?
    Was Pell responsible?
    Did climate change play a part?
    He just needed to get laid
    He was autistic
    Not enough outreach programmes
    Trump
    Pence rule
    Pepe
    Deplorables
    4chan
    8chan

  229. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Was there a Chicom plant on QANDA last night calling the HK protesters “terrorists”‘?

    Fucking appalling.

  230. We don’t need no steenking guns – we got milk crates.

  231. Bruce in WA

    In the clip shown by Ch 7, he can be heard yelling “Allah”, then later “Akbar”.

    The story already being circulated is “Religion had nothing to do with it, he was just high on meth”.

  232. feelthebern

    Thank goodness the chap ran down Barrack & onto Clarence street from York St.
    Means he missed my coffee shop.
    If that fvcker did anything to my coffee girls I would have lynched him.

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