Tuesday Forum: August 13, 2019

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  1. Old School Conservative

    Kristina Keneally has been using the contraband for some time. It’s gives the bob a little twist at the tip.

    There’s something about Kristina.

  2. Boambee John

    The fewer firearms in the community, the less likelihood that they will be used for mayhem.

    The fewer illegal firearms in the hands of criminals, the less likelihood that they will be used for mayhem.

    Fixed. If the “authorities” focussed on illegal weapons and criminals (admittedly, this can involve work) rather than on tbe law-abiding (which involves little effort) we would not need to have this rubbish polluting the blog.

  3. stackja

    NSW open to ban on sex selection abortions
    The NSW premier says she is willing to consider “strengthening” a bill to legalise abortion by explicitly banning gender selection terminations.
    Australian Associated Press
    an hour ago

    NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian has opened the door to explicitly banning abortions based on gender if it will help ease community concerns.

    Some MPs – including coalition ministers – raised the issue during debate on draft laws to decriminalise abortions in NSW.

    The private members’ bill, which passed the lower house last week, will be examined by a parliamentary committee before being considered in the upper house.

    Ms Berejiklian, who is in Europe on a trade mission, said the state’s chief obstetrician had advised her that sex selection terminations were “not an issue in NSW”.

    “But if there is more we need to do to actually allay concerns of the community of course we will,” she told reporters in London overnight on Wednesday.

    She encouraged upper house MPs to consider “strengthening” the bill to address the issue, saying she would be “more than comfortable” with it.

    “Everybody regards that as an abhorrent practice,” Ms Berejiklian said.

    “This is a black and white issue. The people of NSW, the parliamentarians of NSW do not support sex selection abortions.”

    The first public hearing for the inquiry into the Reproductive Health Care Reform Bill is being held on Wednesday.

    Religious leaders will be among those giving evidence, including Sydney’s Catholic and Anglican archbishops, as well as Joowish, Maronite and Coptic Orthodox representatives.

  4. stackja

    C.L.
    #3131443, posted on August 14, 2019 at 10:11 am
    Could Numbers and his addicted respondents go and start their own blog, please?

    Days numbered until?

  5. Nob

    Norway is very happy because they drill lots of oil and gas wells.
    Which also makes them very wealthy.

    According to my extensive personal research.

    Busy again this year.

    Bore, kjære, bore!

  6. 1735099

    The fewer illegal firearms in the hands of criminals, the less likelihood that they will be used for mayhem.
    Fixed. If the “authorities” focussed on illegal weapons and criminals (admittedly, this can involve work) rather than on tbe law-abiding (which involves little effort) we would not need to have this rubbish polluting the blog.

    A firearm is a firearm is a firearm.
    A legal firearm functions in exactly the same way as an illegal firearm.
    it is designed to kill.
    I agree that more can be done to detect and remove firearms from criminals, but deregulating is not the answer.
    In any case, it’s too late for the Yanks, but we have the capacity to prevent the lunacy that permeates thrir gun culture from crossing the Pacific.

  7. The Countess

    BIL married to SIL? Easy peasy. The Count has a brother. He’s my BIL. Said BIL is married. Therefore his wife is my SIL.
    Ergo BIL married to SIL.

  8. struth

    No, there’s a much simpler premise.
    The fewer firearms in the community, the less likelihood that they will be used for mayhem.
    Some will, but the scale will be much less. Just compare the rates here with those in the USA.

    A commo like numbers doesn’t care for right or wrong, and WHO gets shot, just about numbers.
    If all those victims are defenceless citizens, killed by the guns held by criminals (including the government) he cares not.
    It’s just about his urge to control, coupled with the mind of an amoralistic simpleton with a religious belief in government.

    Some will, but the scale will be much less. Just compare the rates here with those in the USA.

    Alice Springs had a higher murder rate than anywhere in the USA for many years, including after the gun confiscation, due to socialist policies regarding aboriginal people.
    Banning excessive government control of people’s lives and racist socialist welfare policies enacted upon certain groups would be a better thing to ban.

    So tell us again, why was there hardly any gun violence, let alone mass shootings in 1950’s America, that was armed to the teeth?
    Why did we have to wait for the breakdown of society caused by cultural Marxism practiced by those that hate the west (lefties) for the mass shootings to start?

    Your ilk in the USA, are much more to blame for Mass killings than the tools used to do it, numbers.

  9. Mother Lode

    ‘Hell is not fire and brimstone. It’s the fires of disappointment, broken dreams and futility.’

    This does not bode well for Liability Bob.

    An eternity of Munchausing* with ever grander tales of martial prowess, wooing ever more exotic women, the duels – gallant protector of ladies’ honour, the resplendent Lords, the amiable rogues, the desperate cutthroats, the sumptuous feasts, the meals of insects, arid deserts, furious boiling seas, inextricable jungles, the faithful native bearers – devoted until their mortal extreme, strange tribes born of stranger gods, the kodak film that doesn’t sit on the spool properly.

    Sod Numbers. I beginning to feel sorry for all the other people in hell who will have to hear it.

    *I can’t recall where I came upon this coined term for doing the Baron von Munchausen thing.

  10. Old School Conservative

    C.L.
    #3131443, posted on August 14, 2019 at 10:11 am
    Could Numbers and his addicted respondents go and start their own blog, please?

    He has, but unlike the freedom he has here to post shit, he blocks all comments.
    Hypocritical? Now, you may very well think that, but of course I couldn’t possibly comment.

  11. Some History

    The former Minister for Fashion & Polo

    Bishop calls for 50% women in fed parly

    Former deputy Liberal leader Julie Bishop says women need to take up 50 per cent of federal parliamentary seats before the toxic misogyny she witnessed during her 20-year political career ends.

    RTWT

    https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/bishop-calls-for-50-women-in-fed-parly/news-story/d9859bf813c712b8aa85129d409f968c

  12. max

    Thanks, Mark, will try through Paypal, so no risk.

    Exchange rate a touch over 65, so a ripoff.

  13. notafan

    The entire article is well worth reading, as are all Lorenzo’s articles on N azism which date back to approximately 2009 and are pretty easy to find on his blog.

    I have an odd recollection that last time I posted this article struth spat chips saying it was wrong, wrong, wrong and n azis were nothing like socialists
    .

    That was Maximilien Robespierre (1758-1794) who, along with his political associates, such as Louis Saint-Just (1767-1794), created, not merely as conception but as practice, the Jacobin model of politics. The Jacobin model of politics is politics unlimited in means and unlimited in scope. That, is, politics willing to engage in any level of killing and repression, and willing to expand into any aspect of society and social interaction, to achieve its ends. A model of politics which relies on its sense of profound moral purpose to justify its refusal to accept limits in means and scope and, somewhat more implicitly, relies on its sense of profound social understanding to give the required confidence that what it does will lead where it intends

    It is even more embarrassing to note that what made Nazism so horrible was not how different it was from the radical Left, but how similar it was. The grandeur of its ambitions for social transformation, the intensity of its mobilisation of society, the depth of its organised penetration of social institutions, all these were far more like the radical Left than any part of the broad non-Left (aka Right).

    Nazi Germany institutionally resembled the Soviet Union far more than it did any of the Western democracies. Even now, as the People’s Republic of China retreats from command economics, it increasingly institutionally resembles Nazi Germany, without the Jew-hatred and Lebensraum ambitions (whatever its South China Sea ambitions, barely anyone actually lives there). Though the overseas Chinese communities provide some potential for irredentist politics.

    Marx at 200 and Robespierre at 260

  14. Roger

    Hong Kong born actor and one time Australian resident Jackie Chan has declared his loyalty to the PRC.

  15. Old School Conservative

    An excellent comment in today’s Oz:
    Why is it when a man shoots a lion it’s the man’s fault but when a man shoots another man, it’s the gun’s fault?

  16. struth

    Your ilk in the USA, are much more to blame for Mass killings than the tools used to do it, numbers.

    Also left wing support of Moossie immigration to multiculti the west out of existence (cultural Marxism) sees every terrorist act, like the one yesterday squarely at the feet of those left wing western hating pollies and their supporters.
    So that includes you, Numbers.
    For somebody with blood on your hands via the ballot box, and brainwashing of kiddies, you have no right to pontificate about gun violence.

  17. John Constantine

    ” What a brilliant idea julie bishop”.

    Sky News commentator Peta Credlin has meanwhile accused Ms Bishop of diminishing all Liberal women with her revelation that she and the other women in the federal cabinet have a pact to support each other’s ideas unconditionally.
    Ms Bishop last week complained of an “unconscious bias, almost deafness” from male colleagues, who ignored her ideas but congratulated other men for similar ones when she was the sole woman in the Abbott cabinet.

    She told a Women’s Weekly Women of the Future event on Wednesday that she and her female colleagues had devised a solution with a “little deal” under Mr Turnbull’s prime ministership.

    “It didn’t matter what the other woman said, the rest of us would go; ‘Oh God, that is brilliant. Did you all hear that?’ and so we do it now and reinforce each other’s point of view,” Ms Bishop said.

  18. stackja

    A man has been arrested over three alleged armed robberies in one day
    The Daily Telegraph
    August 14, 2019 5:15am
    Subscriber only

    A man is facing court today after three armed robberies in one day in Sydney’s south-west yesterday.

    A man first went to a bottle shop in Peakhurst yesterday afternoon and bought beer before producing a firearm and demanding money, which he was given.

    Twenty minutes later, a male drove to a convenience store on the corner of Hannans and Penshurst roads at Narwee, again producing a firearm and getting money.

    At 9.45pm, a service station on Bryant Street in Narwee was robbed by a man matching the description of a person involved in the previous events.

    He was given money and left the premises.

    A short time later police arrested a 27-year-old man in George Street in Mortdale.

    Police seized a Holden Colorado that had been driven by the man.

    Upon searching the vehicle, police located two firearms, one being a sawn-off air rifle and a second rifle.

    Ammunition was also located, along with the alleged proceeds from the three robberies earlier in the day.

    The man was charged before being refused bail, and will appear in Sutherland Local Court today.

    Armed robberies? Illegal firearms? I am shocked!

  19. notafan

    The entire article is well worth reading, as are all Lorenzo’s articles on N azism which date back to approximately 2009 and are pretty easy to find on his blog.

    I have an odd recollection that last time I posted this article struth spat chips saying it was wrong, wrong, wrong and n azis were nothing like socialists.

    And it is clear too, that Jacobin politics is what drives the constant increasing intrusion of the state into Australian lives, at every level of government.

    Why else would we have rubbish bin inspectors?
    .

    That was Maximilien Robespierre (1758-1794) who, along with his political associates, such as Louis Saint-Just (1767-1794), created, not merely as conception but as practice, the Jacobin model of politics. The Jacobin model of politics is politics unlimited in means and unlimited in scope. That, is, politics willing to engage in any level of killing and repression, and willing to expand into any aspect of society and social interaction, to achieve its ends. A model of politics which relies on its sense of profound moral purpose to justify its refusal to accept limits in means and scope and, somewhat more implicitly, relies on its sense of profound social understanding to give the required confidence that what it does will lead where it intends…

    It is even more embarrassing to note that what made N azism so horrible was not how different it was from the radical Left, but how similar it was. The grandeur of its ambitions for social transformation, the intensity of its mobilisation of society, the depth of its organised penetration of social institutions, all these were far more like the radical Left than any part of the broad non-Left (aka Right).

    Nazi Germany institutionally resembled the Soviet Union far more than it did any of the Western democracies. Even now, as the People’s Republic of China retreats from command economics, it increasingly institutionally resembles Nazi Germany, without the J ew-hatred and Lebensraum ambitions (whatever its South China Sea ambitions, barely anyone actually lives there). Though the overseas Chinese communities provide some potential for irredentist politics.

    Marx at 200 and Robespierre at 260

  20. Mother Lode

    Just reflecting here on contingent circumstances, but if Epstein was being coerced to suicide, what sort of pressure could have been applied whereby he would prefer to be dead.

    It is easier to imagine if the person to be coerced had loved ones that could be got at if he were not cooperative – but did Epstein actually have anyone like that? From what I have heard he has struck me as a rat-cunning and opportunistic, but shallow perverse hedonist. For him he would have to be terrified to the exclusion of all hope, since any life has more hope than death.

    Sodding moderation.

    I am just going to say the same thing with a synonym:

    Similarly some people will die to keep their legacy intact – but again he did not strike me as having such a historical perspective where he would care for his post-mortem reputation.

    All that said, I suspect he had a very sparsely furnished inner life, living more in his skin than his heart. He would therefore not have the means to make his fall bearable – no recourse to ideals of stoicism, forbearance, belief in an ultimate vindication.

    Maybe he was scared shitless of facing the showers as a known p3d0.

  21. Mark A

    max
    #3131458, posted on August 14, 2019 at 10:31 am

    Thanks, Mark, will try through Paypal, so no risk.

    Exchange rate a touch over 65, so a ripoff.

    My apologies Max it still comes from Blooming China as I discovered after ordering, but not the crowd I had problem with before.
    Fingers crossed, had a lot of stuff coming from there and apart from the above mentioned they were OK.

    Still, read all you can about the site and ask them questions if in doubt.
    Good luck.

  22. struth

    I have an odd recollection that last time I posted this article struth spat chips saying it was wrong, wrong, wrong and n azis were nothing like socialists.

    Odd…………….is the word.

    FMD,……………………………………………….

  23. Some History

    Someone here mentioned this possibility yesterday.

    The woman fatally stabbed as part of a rampage in Sydney’s CBD was a sex worker the alleged attacker had planned to meet.
    The 21-year-old woman’s body was found in a fourth-floor apartment in Clarence Street at about 3.15pm yesterday.
    It is alleged she was killed by Mert Ney, 21, who then ran out into the street and stabbed another random woman in the back.
    She was understood to work from home and police said the alleged knifeman was visiting her for “business” purposes.

    https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/major-police-operation-underway-in-sydney-cbd/news-story/0aac18728e8334f52d8bf88dd8a481f2

  24. Bruce in WA

    I work with someone who had previously imported BBQ from China. They consistently got trash. Even when they were on site in China to supervise quality and loading, when the container arrived in Oz, it was trash. They gave that business away.

    Last company I worked for imported two very large flat screen TVs from China, at a time when they were running into thousands of dollars here in Oz. The two boxes were finally delivered. One contained a flat screen TV — the other had bricks and rubble to make up the weight.

    We never found out whether it had never been sent or if it “disappeared” in transit; the boss suspected the former, I suspected the latter.

  25. Shy Ted

    1735099 #3131269, posted on August 14, 2019 at 6:22 am
    Coffee
    First Dog
    More coffee
    cuddle
    Finish my Literature Review
    Mass for Keith
    Don’t have to go to work – suck it up……

    Plagiarising bespoke aside, private, and I know I’m going to regret this but what is it you cuddle? A copy of Mein Kampf? Your Victoria Cross? The Guardian online? A rare copy of Jellybeans in the Jungle signed by the author?

  26. stackja

    Victorian clergy pressured to report abuse
    Victoria is introducing laws to compel priests to break the seal of the confessional and report any admissions of child abuse.
    Australian Associated Press
    August 14, 2019 8:45am

    Priests will be compelled to break the seal of the confessional and report admissions of child abuse under news laws being introduced in Victoria.

    The laws, introduced into parliament on Wednesday, will make religious ministries mandatory reporters of abuse suspicions, alongside police, teachers, medical practitioners and early childhood workers.

    “It’s pretty simple: if you think a child is being abused, you have to report it,” Child Protection Minister Luke Donnellan said in a statement.

    “We’re committed to driving this cultural change to make Victoria safer for our children.”

    The laws were a bi-partisan promise ahead of last year’s state election.

    But while both sides of politics agree, the Catholic Church says it will uphold the confessional.

    “I am strongly committed to reporting to the appropriate authorities, and have already exercised that duty here in Melbourne. I am also strongly committed to upholding the seal of confession,” Melbourne Archbishop Peter Comensoli wrote in a pastoral letter in August last year when the laws were first flagged.

  27. notafan

    We can roll the tape if you like struth

    you went on and on and on about Lorenzo’s article being wrong.

    still that wasn’t my point in reposting it

    have to remember too that like numbers h itler held is lam in high re gard

  28. notafan

    I see lawyers and journalists are exempt from the new rules, which are based on someone’s imagination anyhow

    still as long as it feels good to our Jacobinic overlords they can have it.

  29. Top Ender

    Former deputy Liberal leader Julie Bishop says women need to take up 50 per cent of federal parliamentary seats

    Damned right!

    We also need:

    – 10% of seats reserved for the grossly obsese

    – 25% of seats reserved for those over 60, and

    – 10% of seats reserved for those of Greek-Australian descent.

    I have more categories but need time to work out the percentages.

  30. max

    Where is Ghislaine Maxwell ? Not seen since Epstein’s first arrest.

    The Maxwell family has become a source of renewed media interest following Jeffrey Epstein’s arrest, as Ghislaine Maxwell, long described in the media as a British “socialite,” was publicly cited as Epstein’s long-time “on and off” girlfriend, and Epstein’s victims, as well as former wives of Epstein’s friends, have claimed that she was Epstein’s “pimp” and procured underage girls for his sexual blackmail operation. Ghislaine Maxwell is also alleged to have engaged in the rape of the girls she procured for Epstein and to have used them to produce child pornography.

    Ghislaine was the favorite and youngest daughter of media mogul Robert Maxwell. Maxwell, born Jan Ludvick Hoch, had joined the British Army in World War II. Afterwards, according to authors John Loftus and Mark Aarons, he greatly influenced the Czechoslovakian government’s decision to arm Zionist paramilitaries during the 1948 war that resulted in Israel’s creation as a state, and Maxwell himself was also involved in the smuggling of aircraft parts to Israel.

    Around this time, Maxwell was approached by British intelligence outfit MI6 and offered a position that Maxwell ultimately declined. MI6 then classified him as “Zionist — loyal only to Israel” and made him a person of interest. He later became an agent of the Mossad, according to several books including Robert Maxwell: Israel’s Superspy by Gordon Thomas and Martin Dillon. Furthermore, Seymour Hersh’s The Samson Option: Israel’s Nuclear Arsenal and American Foreign Policy alleges ties between Maxwell and Israeli intelligence.

    According to Victor Ostrovsky, a former Mossad case officer:

    Mossad was financing many of its operations in Europe from money stolen from Maxwell’s newspaper pension fund. They got their hands on the funds almost as soon as Maxwell made the purchase of the Mirror Newspaper Group with money lent to him by Mossad.”

    In exchange for his services, the Mossad helped Maxwell satisfy his sexual appetite during his visits to Israel, providing him with prostitutes, “the service maintained for blackmail purposes.” It was later revealed that the hotel in which he stayed in Israel was bugged with cameras, allowing the Mossad to acquire “a small library of video footage of Maxwell in sexually compromising positions.” As with the CIA, the Mossad’s use of blackmail against both friend and foe is well-documented and known to be extensive.

  31. notafan

    We never found out whether it had never been sent or if it “disappeared” in transit; the boss suspected the former, I suspected the latter.

    That would require a postal employee to have a handy stash of bricks and rubble and a set of scales.

    Not that I haven’t had stuff stolen in the post, two large parcels to the US arrived as empty boxes, pretty ticked that they went through several handling points like that.

    No refunds of course, not even for the postage charges.

  32. notafan

    I am not going to subscribe to any Epstein theory other than gross negligence until proven otherwise.

    He had reason to commit suicide and would not be the first one of his kind to do so when a prison cell for a goodly portion of the rest of his life was a very very likely option.

  33. Johno

    And now Placido Domingo has been meto’d. Apparently he played naughties with some sheila yonks back.
    Bad Placido. A few opera coys have cancelled engagements.

  34. C.L.

    Real job ad (via Quadrant):

    Climate Emergency Officer
    Permanent Full Time (Flexible)
    Band 6 $87,105.55 – $94,943.91 + Super + RDO

    The City of Yarra has a proud history of environmental action and leadership. Yarra was one of the first local governments in the world to declare a climate emergency, recognising urgent action is required by all. We are now employing our first Climate Emergency Officer, to help respond to the climate emergency across the municipality and within the organisation.

    More specifically, the position will:

    Lead the design and delivery of key engagement, behaviour change, and mobilisation campaigns related to climate emergency, to increase long-term buy-in and action across Yarra.

    Design, deliver, and/or promote climate emergency information, programs and events in Yarra, to increase awareness and action.

    Work in partnership with the community, key partners and stakeholders, supporting action on the climate emergency, and actively participate in joint sustainability projects.

    Support the delivery of staff engagement programs to increase and embed climate emergency awareness and action within the organisation.

    Investigate, prepare, and support applications for relevant grant programs to secure funds to enable delivery of climate emergency action and engagement programs.

    Support the ongoing delivery of Yarra’s Climate Emergency Plan (in development).

    The climate emergency is a fast-paced, growing global movement. We are seeking a passionate candidate who has relevant understanding and experience in developing and implementing community sustainability campaigns and projects, strong communication skills, and a demonstrated ability to undertake complex projects with many stakeholders.

    Yarra city council is a dynamic, progressive, and sustainable organisation. We pride ourselves on our diversity and aim to make a positive difference in people’s lives.

    For further information see the Position Description below or contact Michael Oke, Sustainability Unit Manager on (03) 9205 5723.

  35. Leigh Lowe

    other women in the federal cabinet have a pact to support each other’s ideas unconditionally.

    Hmmm. Blind adherence based upon gender.
    And what problem are they trying to fix?
    Read on, dear reader.

    Ms Bishop last week complained of an “unconscious bias, almost deafness” from male colleagues …

  36. John Constantine

    Politicals revealing they ‘do little deals’ to provide unconditional support for an idea, regardless of the impact the position has upon the poor bastard proles, just as long as supporting the idea is a win for the ideological position of the political orc.

    devised a solution with a “little deal” under Mr Turnbull’s prime ministership.

    “It didn’t matter what the other woman said, the rest of us would go; ‘Oh God, that is brilliant. Did you all hear that?’ and so we do it now and reinforce each other’s point of view,” Ms Bishop said.

  37. Some History

    The City of Yarra has a proud history of environmental action and leadership weapons-grade stupidity.

  38. notafan

    City of Yarra residents are green right down to their tippy toes.

    I hope they thoroughly enjoy paying through the nose for their climate emergency officer and all ze/zir/say’s edicts.

  39. stackja

    Travel company ordered to pay couple damages after gastro outbreak on cruise

    It was the $11,000 river cruise of a lifetime which promised “hidden gems” and “unmissable sights” for two Melbourne travellers. But that turned to a nightmare when they — along with half the travellers on-board — became “violently ill” with gastro.
    Jordy Atkinson, Preston Leader
    Subscriber only

    August 14, 2019 6:00am

    VCAT member Louise Johnson said the fact illness hygiene protocols had been in place from before the beginning of the Sheridans’ holiday meant it was likely there had been an earlier outbreak and the boat had not been properly decontaminated.

    Ms Johnson ordered Marvel to pay the Sheridans $11,180 in damages — the entire amount he had paid for the tour.

    Marvelous?

  40. C.L.

    The “accusations” against Placido Domingo by several women reek of a shakedown by losers.
    These decades-later “victims” of “harassment” are far worse than street hookers.
    At least the latter are honest.

  41. stackja

    David Toscano says charity has been ‘abandoned’ in funding search

    A group providing thousands of hot meals to those who can’t afford it will close its doors unless it finds a miracle donor. Now staff are pleading to the public for help after pollies “passed the buck”.
    Richard Pearce, Preston Leader
    Subscriber only

    August 9, 2019 6:00am

    A charity serving 16,000 two-course meals a year to those who can’t afford them say they’ve been “abandoned” by all levels of government.

    And they’ve warned the popular lunches will come to an end if it doesn’t find more cash.

    Northern Community CareWorks helps the unemployed through Work for the Dole, runs an op shop and hosts a number of community activities.

    But Leader reported in June changes to the Work for the Dole model had left them $70,000 short of federal funding to run the programs.

  42. Johno

    “8 singers and a dancer” been at it for decades. Get a good lawyer Placido. He is 78.

    Three of the women say he kissed them. The horror.

    And the caravan moves on.

  43. Mother Lode

    He had reason to commit suicide

    The post I wrote above about why it seemed out of character for such as Epstein to off himself was not meant as some sort of ‘proof’ that he was done in. Just an exploration of what seemed improbable in itself – no doubt because so much was speculation on my part rather than verified information.

  44. C.L.

    “It didn’t matter what the other woman said, the rest of us would go; ‘Oh God, that is brilliant. Did you all hear that?’ and so we do it now and reinforce each other’s point of view,” Ms Bishop said.

    Sounds a lot like the cat-house in Unforgiven.

  45. hzhousewife

    “It didn’t matter what the other woman said, the rest of us would go; ‘Oh God, that is brilliant. Did you all hear that?’ and so we do it now and reinforce each other’s point of view,” Ms Bishop said.

    Idiotic lemmings !

  46. Knuckle Dragger

    Ha ha.

    There was a headline on the runner during the teev news this morning that said ‘Julie Bishop says she felt ignored in Parliament’

    Freakin’ duh.

  47. stackja

    Batchelor Institute deficit rises to $1.2 million: Annual report

    THE Batchelor Institute of Indigenous Tertiary Education recorded a $1.2 million operating deficit in its most recent annual report
    RAPHAELLA SAROUKOS, NT News
    Subscriber only

    August 14, 2019 12:30am

    THE Batchelor Institute of Indigenous Tertiary Education recorded a $1.2 million operating deficit in its most recent annual report.

    The 2017-18 result was six times worse than a $200,000 deficit recorded in 2016-17.

    The Institute’s 2018-19 report has not been released.

    A former Batchelor Institute staffer, who did not want to be named, called the school and its system as “ruined”.

    The report also revealed a loss of 687 Vocational Education and Training (VET) students.

    The reason cited for the decrease was the loss of $2.6 million in funding from the NT Government’s Department of Trade Business and Innovation due to “non-achievement of training targets”.

    The former staffer said the Institute was wrongly focused on higher education and not VET.

  48. cohenite

    The troll is against self defence and use of a gun for self defence. This is the commie view everywhere. And it is the cause of gun violence in the US. Gun violence in the US is mainly by blacks and Hispanic gangs who are empowered by left policies and wacism; gun violence in the US is mainly in demorat controlled cities which have stricter gun laws than Australia. Mass shootings happen in gun free zones. When citizens end a mass shooting the death toll is 6 times lower than when police end it.

    The 2nd Amendment is the greatest political statement created by humans.

    Lefties and commies like the troll don’t care about people killed by guns or their policies generally. They just use these tragedies to promote power for themselves and to assume moral superiority.

    To deal with lefties you have to act like them but think right.

    Act left, think right

  49. Some History

    A charity serving 16,000 two-course meals a year to those who can’t afford them say they’ve been “abandoned” by all levels of government.

    The hungry will have to wait (is there cake available?). Government money has to go to high priorities like the “climate emergency”.

  50. John Constantine

    The hotel he stayed in was bugged with cameras

    Married Politicals like their andrew broad that go to chicom run Hong Kong to date girls from sugar daddy websites behind their wives backs somehow seem to live in a bubble of immunity.

    The big hotels developed by chicom secret police controlled developers, like the one planned to go up in Darwin next to the political/public service orcs nests, of course would never allow the chicom secret police to run face/gait recognition software over their security cameras.

    https://qz.com/africa/1192493/china-spied-on-african-union-headquarters-for-five-years/

    China “gifted” the African Union a headquarters building and then allegedly bugged it for state secrets

    All the politicals and media orcs in australia know this goes on, but say nothing so as not to miss out on a handout. These traitors are worse than the mentally ill murdering stabfreaks.

  51. JC

    Real job ad (via Quadrant):

    No it’s not. 🙂

    I called and the dude told me applications have closed. I told him I wanted to apply for it.

  52. struth

    I have an odd recollection that last time I posted this article struth spat chips saying it was wrong, wrong, wrong and n azis were nothing like socialists.

    Please feel free to “roll tape”

    Anyone with half a brain here knows I call out the great lie as almost a life’s work.

    An indefensible lie as numbers proves daily.

  53. Geriatric Mayfly

    I think Placido has given up the warbling and taken the baton in hand. Opera house boycotts will not bother him too much.

  54. Johno

    A charity serving 16,000 two-course meals a year to those who can’t afford them say they’ve been “abandoned” by all levels of government.
    That works out to about 43 meals a day. They say they are $70,000 short.

  55. Shy Ted

    Just reflecting here on contingent circumstances, but if Epstein was being coerced to suicide, what sort of pressure could have been applied whereby he would prefer to be dead.
    Read a piece on the suicide of appalling serial killer Fred West in the UK despite him being on suicide watch. Apparently what we see as horrific crimes he would see as his life’ work and a great achievement with everything else paling into insignificance. Probably the same with Epstein, the billions incidental, the opus being the manipulation, domination and control of others. Fred suicided to avoid revealing his life’ “work”. I can see Epstein in the same state of mind. I wouldn’t think he’d care at all about the downfall of the rich and famous but be horrified at the thought of reputational damage to his nearest and dearest.
    Being assigned to suicide watch is as boring as jobs get and all you do is look at someone. It’s easy to nod off or be asleep with your eyes open and for an “event’ to not register. The person on suicide watch is alone with their thoughts and nothing else and it’s generally recognized this lack of stimulus can increase the suicide risk and the creative means with which to enact it. These aren’t sexy jobs and there are routine shortages and it’s not unusual for unqualified or inexperienced staff to not know or adhere to protocols or be distracted, go to the toilet, make a drink etc.
    Also easy to imagine ageing camera systems being faulty or a repair requisition not being done. Time will tell. Personally, I’d prefer a grand conspiracy but for every little suspicious event there’s a real person with a real family and a real mortgage who would know that it’s just wrong but wouldn’t know what to do about it.

  56. Leigh Lowe

    It is easier to imagine if the person to be coerced had loved ones that could be got at if he were not cooperative – but did Epstein actually have anyone like that?

    That thought crossed my mind yesterday too ML.
    As I understand it, he had no “significant other” or children, so no leverage there.
    I read a report that he was “close to” a brother. Was that a point of leverage?
    Who knows.

  57. stackja

    Could it be Placido Domingo said ‘unkind’ words to women who lacked talent?

  58. Some History

    I called and the dude told me applications have closed. I told him I wanted to apply for it.

    The dude said, “Not to worry. We’ll have another 4 x “climate emergency officer” jobs available in the next few months. We just have to work out which of the normal council services – like garbage collection – we have to cut back”.

  59. cohenite

    That maggot greg piper was the co-sponsor of the baby killing and gender selection enabling bill which just passed the lower house. I just spoke to his, female, office manager, and quite frankly, she did not have a clue. When I said this will be used to selectively abort female foetuses she said that can’t be right.

  60. stackja

    Nicole from the NBN is still making phone calls.

  61. Black Ball

    I noted your remarks Knuckle Dragger regarding the weather during the cricket World Cup. Look at the forecast for the Lord’s Test. Heavy rain first day, partly sunny with a few showers second day, light rain, light rain showers the final day sunny intervals with a late shower. Draw at 1.80 looks inviting.

  62. Geriatric Mayfly

    Simply to sing La Donna e Mobile (The woman is fickle) would be enough for the sexism police to march on stage and cart Placido off.

  63. Roger

    When I said this will be used to selectively abort female foetuses she said that can’t be right.

    What about babies who survive the abortion attempt?

    Left to die without medical treatment?

    That was the claim I saw.

  64. Some History

    Ms Thunberg, who refuses to fly because of what she describes the “enormous climate impact of aviation’’ will cross the Atlantic later this month to participate in UN climate summits in the US and Chile.

    UN Global Village of the Damned

    https://imgur.com/inqOZ6I

  65. Infidel Tiger

    Former Magpie Dane Swan has said he would “rather work at McDonald’s for the rest of my life than apologise to people I don’t give a f— about” in his new podcast, after the last one was canned over jokes about sexual assault.

    That’s how it’s done folks.

  66. C.L.

    I called and the dude told me applications have closed. I told him I wanted to apply for it.

    LOL.

  67. jupes

    Sounds a lot like the cat-house in Unforgiven.

    Maybe but it sure doesn’t look like it.

    How do you reckon Tubbsy Payne would go in a brothel?

  68. Infidel Tiger

    Remember folks, there is absolutely nothing wrong with killing abortionists.

    They are not even human beings and are unlikely to turn into them.

  69. Infidel Tiger

    How do you reckon Tubbsy Payne would go in a brothel?

    There’s a helluva lot of sick people. She’d do okay.

  70. stackja

    Air War College
    Air University
    OVERLORD: The Unnecessary Invasion
    By William F. Moore Lieutenant Colonel, USAF
    A research report submitted to the faculty in fulfillment of the research requirement
    http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/AAF/NoOverlord/index.html
    Research Advisor: Dr. Joseph L. Strange

    Maxwell Air Force Base, Alabama March 1986

  71. Andreas

    A charity serving 16,000 two-course meals a year to those who can’t afford them say they’ve been “abandoned” by all levels of government.

    If you’re getting money from the government you’re not really a charity anymore.

  72. Black Ball

    Ms Thunberg could well be here if this is what passes for local government action. From the Hun:
    ‘An inner city council is bankrolling a bootcamp for student activists to get involved in climate change campaigns, including the September 20 Strike4Climate rally.
    Yarra City Council, which declared a global climate emergency in 2017, is backing the Australian Youth Climate Coalition training pitched at secondary school kids aged from 12 to 18 wanting to”get fired up to fight for climate justice”.
    The council, with three Greens councillors under the Yarra Greens banner, will stump up for use of Fitzroy Town Hall, lunch, snacks and drinks for the day.
    The coalition said the Student Climate Justice Training Day was “an opportunity for high school students to understand climate change science and solutions, connect with other like minded people, and build skills in leadership, organising and communications”.
    “AYCC is a non partisan organisation that supports young people to lead peaceful, creative campaigns that transition Australia to 100 percent renewable energy, and we require young people under 18 to have a conversation with their parents and seek permission to get involved”, a coalition spokeswoman said.
    But state Opposition environment spokesman David Morris questioned the use of ratepayers money to fund the project.’

    Where to begin with this clusterfuck?

  73. struth

    Guns don’t kill people.
    People kill people.
    The real trigger is cultural Marxism, causing a hatred and division in the west that brings an armed society to violence.
    Australia is unarmed so will fall to totalitarianism where the mass shootings , mass starvations, and general liquidation of political enemies will be on a scale that makes the odd shooting in America look like a teddy bear’s picnic.
    To socialists, we note, there is no concern with the misery and violence and death associated with socialist Venezuela right now, which again, makes the USA look like heaven.

    The left, ………..the cause of misery and death world wide, have no right to open their mouths about a nation that will still be free and a superpower precisely because it has guns and free speech.
    (Without guns they would have already lost free speech).

    Look to your own backyard and the misery your vote creates now and into the future.
    Bow your head for forgiveness, Sniify, as you are the supporter of Evil.

  74. 1735099

    The troll is against self defence and use of a gun for self defence. This is the commie view everywhere. And it is the cause of gun violence in the US.

    There are two fairly large holes in your argument.
    Let’s look at the first one.
    If the use of guns for self defence is effective, you would expect the country with the highest rate of gun ownership to be the safest.
    Exactly the opposite is the case.

    Your second argument is that Communism is responsible for gun violence.
    If that were so, China (nominally Communist), DPRK, and (say) Cuba, would have a major problem with gun violence.
    They don’t.
    Please explain.

  75. Mater

    The heroes would most likely have failed, and indeed been victims themselves, if the alleged perpetrator had carried a rapid-firing gun that could kill at a distance.
    It has long been accepted in this country, that the best way to limit limit the risk of senseless murder is to limit access to guns. It would seem to be a no-brainer.
    A gun is so lethal in the hands of a person with ill-intent against ordinary civilians going about their daily lives in a crowded city that the possible carnage can be on a scale too terrible to imagine.

    Ok. So now let’s hear why ASP batons, tasers, pepper spray and body armour are also banned. Tools of self defence and protection, not lethal, certainly not rapid-firing and all but useless at a distance.

    Enfeebling the populace is the aim of the game. Given the reasons provided for gun control, there can be no other explanation. I guess it’s chairs and milk crates at 10 paces.

  76. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger

    #3131522, posted on August 14, 2019 at 11:50 am

    Former Magpie Dane Swan has said he would “rather work at McDonald’s for the rest of my life than apologise to people I don’t give a f— about” in his new podcast, after the last one was canned over jokes about sexual assault.

    That’s how it’s done folks.

    Exactly.
    Without a marketing degree or an MBA, Swannie has figured out the woke feminista segment of his audience is approximately 0.000% (rounded).

  77. Oh come on

    I see a certain someone is here again, pathetically clamouring for attention like an unloved toddler. Don’t give it to him.

  78. John Constantine

    Their ABC country hour announces that the pigs bred from the smuggled pig semen are still alive and in another herd, as it can be guessed they possess the most valuable pig genetics in the country.

    The solemn wymynsys spin on the case though is the impact on the smugglers families, with failing to comply with regulations meaning the State will bankrupt you, jail you and ruin your family as well.

    Even if the new imported genetics are a benefit to the Australian economy.

    I have always loved Big Brother.

  79. Knuckle Dragger

    Excuse me LL.

    That would be -119.7%.

  80. C.L.

    … batons, tasers, pepper spray and body armour are also banned.

    Most of this is driven by Australian police. What they resent (and hate) is the loss of prestige that would result from citizens being permitted to even moderately arm themselves. Police in this country love wearing the new blues (adopted to make them look more like the cops on American television) and Glocks (a totally unnecessary semi-automatic pistol). I remember the police commissioner (might have been Queensland’s) issuing an edict that officers should wear their weapons to and from work after a terror incident of some kind – so they could defend themselves. And the public? Fuck ’em.

  81. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    The City of Yarra has a proud history of environmental action and leadership. Yarra was one of the first local governments in the world to declare a climate emergency, recognising urgent action is required by all. We are now employing our first Climate Emergency Officer, to help respond to the climate emergency across the municipality and within the organisation.

    fmd. your rates at work

  82. thefrollickingmole

    Speaking about compliance…

    It appears DMIRS (mines department) in WA have gone to the dark side.
    They were rolled into the worksafe blob last year and it appears they may be going down the civil aviation authority path of safety & regulation.

    That is, if you are a small operator who cant employ many, many people checking compliance you shouldnt be mining at all.
    The compliance isnt to enhance safety but to allow for retrospective mining for breaches after incidents as “causes”.

    Its a worrying departure from their previous risk based model, Im hoping its a one off or you can expect to see a lot of smaller mobs sell out.

    BHP levels of compliance on a 100 man operation budget doesnt compute.

    Anyone else in mining had a visit from the inspectors lately?

  83. Cassie of Sydney

    How long before milk crates are banned?

  84. notafan

    no struth it was before numbers returned and motivated by your reflex ‘anything notafan agrees with i disagree with’.

  85. 1735099

    I see a certain someone is here again, pathetically clamouring for attention like an unloved toddler. Don’t give it to him.

    That’s unkind.
    I’m sure Struth always posts with noble intentions.

  86. John Constantine

    When the time comes, safety and compliance onfarm inspectors will drive smaller meat producers out.

    Big super funds with massive compliance departments just put a few more activists on.

    Everybody else drops their head and goes to the city to provide bespoke services.

    I have always wanted to provide bespoke services to the good and the Great.

  87. Oh come on

    Former Magpie Dane Swan has said he would “rather work at McDonald’s for the rest of my life than apologise to people I don’t give a f— about” in his new podcast, after the last one was canned over jokes about sexual assault.

    Haha very good!

  88. How long before milk crates are banned?

    I was in the supermarket where there were dozens of of unsecured milk crates.
    At the very least, these weapons of mass destruction should be secured in a suitable steel safe.

  89. Black Ball

    Speaking of super funds John Constantine, VicSuper, after a summer doing huge tomato crops around the Tresco area, have turned their attention to cotton in those same paddocks. Quite impressive but as a VicSuper contributor, do I get to see any dividend? 🤔

  90. ‘anything notafan agrees with i disagree with’.

    Add me to that pool of rational people!

  91. struth

    no struth it was before numbers returned and motivated by your reflex ‘anything notafan agrees with i disagree with’

    Please feel free to roll tape, as you put it, Notafan.

    Again, anyone here with half a brain knows that I have always argued against the propaganda that National socialism was right wing.
    I HAVE ALWAYS argued that National Socialism was indeed socialism in name and deed.

    What bloody planet are you on, these dayys Notafan?
    So again I ask you to put up or sh…….get back in the kitchen.

  92. Top Ender

    Tomorrow’s headline: “Cafe chairs to be placed on a national register”

  93. notafan

    That works out to about 43 meals a day. They say they are $70,000 short.

    Sounds like a very expensive operation, that if examined probably serves meals to a small number of privileged regulars, courtesy of the taxpayer.

    A lot of charity feeding places in inner Melbourne feed more backpackarer and other non charity types than the homeless

    one of my daughters volunteered at a couple

    not impressed with the allocation of her charity time at all

  94. “OK.
    We have you surrounded!
    Drop your milk crates and come out with your hands up and you won’t get hurt!”

  95. struth

    That’s unkind.
    I’m sure Struth always posts with noble intentions.

    I can answer questions, Sniffy, maybe a noble thing to do would be to emulate me.

    So,
    Why is Finland socialist where the National Socialist Germany was not, (and extremely right wing in your befuddled mind)

  96. Top Ender

    The crashing sound is Magna Carta and its equivalents around the world falling off mantelpieces:

    Two music companies have cancelled appearances by opera star Placido Domingo after claims he sexually harassed and pressured women into sexual relationships.

    The Los Angeles Opera, of which Domingo is general director, said it would launch an investigation into the claims that span decades.

    Domingo has been general director of the LA Opera since 2003 and previously served as the company’s artistic director, jobs that gave him the power to cast roles and, claim his accusers, make or break careers.

    Nine women have come forward with claims of harassment against him, with some claiming he used his power at the LA Opera and elsewhere to try to pressure them into sexual relationships. Several said he dangled jobs and sometimes punished them professionally if they refused his advances.

    On Tuesday, the Philadelphia Orchestra and San Francisco Opera announced they would cancel upcoming performances featuring the star, regarded as one of the greatest opera singers of all time.

    Link

  97. Top Ender. What calibre cafe chair do you prefer to use?

  98. John Constantine

    The pig semen smugglers were caught after a tip off, not caught in the act.

    Coming soon to australia will be Judge Pal 2000ad style pay-for-tippoff programs.

    And get-out-of-jail-free cards for anybody willing to dob in three other names of dissenters.

  99. struth

    Also, why did 1950’s heavily armed USA have no mass shootings while they do now?

    What’s changed?

  100. twostix

    The NSW premier says she is willing to consider “strengthening” a bill to legalise abortion by explicitly banning gender selection terminations.

    Oh, so a woman doesn’t have the right to choose and abortion is a crime, sometimes, depending on what a politician feels like right now and we can ban abortion at any time for any reason except we mustn’t because it’s about Freedom.

    We’re in a quagmire of retarded low IQ bugmen animated by evil.

  101. rickw

    This is how anglo civilisation operated up until the industrial revolution crammed everyone into mass artificial society.

    The british police – where they even existed – only carried a whistle to call the men in the community to help.

    The modern state militia which treats our communities like separate, aloof foreign occupiers is not natural or even desirable.

    Plod typically had to borrow firearms from passers by, or enlist their help, as the situation demanded.

  102. Cassie of Sydney

    Struth is always welcome here….the Jooo hating racist SS guard is not.

  103. Cassie of Sydney

    “We’re in a quagmire of retarded low IQ bugmen animated by evil.”

    Yep.

  104. rickw

    Tomorrow’s headline: “Cafe chairs to be placed on a national register”

    Axes and wrecking bars first!!

    A fine display by real Australians.

  105. Ullo, ullo, ullo, what ‘ave we got ‘ere?
    You’re nicked!

    No dispute, no chase, armed with a truncheon.

  106. Mater

    I was in the supermarket where there were dozens of of unsecured milk crates.
    At the very least, these weapons of mass destruction should be secured in a suitable steel safe.

    No need to go overboard.
    The newly drafted Prohibited Weapons Laws indicate that a high tensile, 5 gauge cable running through the lot of them and secured with a single Abloy Protec2 PL 362 padlock, will suffice…but only whilst on display in a suitably certified and registered supermarket!
    Only once they leave the said supermarket, do the draconian safety measures take effect.

  107. Roger

    I remember the police commissioner (might have been Queensland’s) issuing an edict that officers should wear their weapons to and from work after a terror incident of some kind – so they could defend themselves.

    With shopping trolleys, milk crates and cafe chairs.

    Pathetic, isn’t it?

    I’m a bit surprised nobody in authority chided those commendable young men for not adopting the state’s preferred reaction to such an incident: Run! Hide! Tell!

    Then wait until the police show up in all their paramilitary gear.

  108. twostix

    Also, why did 1950’s heavily armed USA have no mass shootings while they do now?

    Imperial empires create violent broken homelands obsessed with violence, war and military inspired and structured institutions that produce a lot of fucked up young men.

  109. Mother Lode

    I think the newpaper USA Today might be including a graphic of possible modifications to regular milk crates.

    Like they did here.

  110. thefrollickingmole

    Interestink, very interestink…

    All leads back to “So you want to investigate/shut us down Congressman, but it says here you repeatedly visited “ladies and Burros” website 53 times in the last year, be a shame if that got out”…

    Zuckerberg and co are the uber-blackmailers, no wonder Epstein wanted to get a few of them “dirty”.

    Jeffrey Epstein said he had dirt on tech oligarchs: Report
    by Daniel Chaitin
    | August 12, 2019 08:13 PM

    Convicted pophile Jeffrey Epstein claimed to have dirt on prominent people in the technology sector.

    The multimillionaire made the boast to New York Times columnist James Stewart during a conversation at his Manhattan mansion last year.

    “He said people in Silicon Valley had a reputation for being geeky workaholics, but that was far from the truth: They were hedonistic and regular users of recreational drugs. He said he’d witnessed prominent tech figures taking drugs and arranging for sex (Mr. Epstein stressed that he never drank or used drugs of any kind),” Stewart wrote.

    Stewart did not name anyone in particular and it is unclear whether Epstein told him any names.

    Stewart said this 90-minute conversation was on background and could not be attributed to Epstein. But Stewart said he determined that condition expired due to Epstein’s apparent suicide in a Manhattan jail cell over the weekend.

  111. 1735099

    So,
    Why is Finland socialist where the National Socialist Germany was not, (and extremely right wing in your befuddled mind)

    Scroll up.
    Check #3131280 at 6.48am and #3131291 at 7.06am.

  112. rickw

    Glocks (a totally unnecessary semi-automatic pistol)

    The redeeming feature of the Glocks was the large number of police that managed to shoot themselves and other police with them.

    I can’t wait till vicpol gets Assault Rifles, even less forgiving when plod manages to mishandle it and cause an unauthorised discharge.

  113. Tel

    I’m a bit surprised nobody in authority chided those commendable young men for not adopting the state’s preferred reaction to such an incident: Run! Hide! Tell!

    Come on get it right.

    What shall be referred to as “The Milk Crate Incident” happened here in Berejiklia … not over there in Dannograd. We have a few extra rights here (once you get old enough to earn em).

  114. when plod manages to mishandle it and cause an unauthorised discharge.

    That’s why cafe chairs are limited to 4 legs.

  115. Roger

    Bad news: Roger Scruton has been diagnosed with cancer.

  116. Percy Popinjay

    the state’s preferred reaction to such an incident: Run! Hide! Tell!

    It’s actually: Flee! Cower! Beg!

    H/T The Constantine.

  117. Is it a breach of human rights to put someones head* inside a milk crate?

    The HRC is investigating.

    *When attached to a body.

  118. Mater

    Then wait until the police show up in all their paramilitary gear.

    Like they did in the Sunbury McDonalds yesterday?

    Police were patrolling in Horne Street when shots were fired at their vehicle.
    The police drove to a nearby McDonalds where they sought shelter inside.
    While the officers were in the restaurant the shooter returned and fired further shots at the police car.
    The police vehicle was then rammed by a silver sedan, which sped from the scene.
    Several police units attended the area to search for the vehicle, and safely escorted employees and police from the McDonalds.

    I’d like to see a picture of said Officers, cause I have my suspicions.

    As they say in America, “When seconds count, the police are barricaded in McDonalds!”

  119. Mother Lode

    Brings a crate to a knife fight.

  120. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘No dispute, no chase, armed with a truncheon.’

    There were plenty of disputes and the odd chase, but one of the main differences between then and now is that coppers were duty-hour to be able to fight like threshing machines. And if you made them run, they would bring all sorts of untidiness with them when they got you.

    Now it’s five foot three fat chicks loaded down with all sorts of shit they either can’t or won’t use and who have the presence of, well, a five foot three fat chick.

    Time was when people were more scared of summary justice than the courts, and rightly so.

    Now they must be polite to crooks, lest their feelz be hurty.

  121. Roger

    Come on get it right.

    What shall be referred to as “The Milk Crate Incident” happened here in Berejiklia … not over there in Dannograd. We have a few extra rights here (once you get old enough to earn em).

    Afraid not, Tel.

    Official NSW police advice on what to do in a terrorist situation:

    Escape. Your priority action should be to remove yourself and any others in your area from close proximity to the offender, or areas that they have or may be able to access.

    Hide. If you don’t believe you can safely evacuate, or this may not be the best option, then you may need to consider sheltering in place.

    Act. Constantly re-assess the situation and your options based on the best available information.

    See/Tell: The more information you can pass on to police the better, but NEVER risk your own safety or that of others to gain it.

  122. Infidel Tiger

    Graham “Polly” Farmer brown bread.

    Greatest footballer there was. Changed the game more than anyone.

  123. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Aussie rules great Graham ‘Polly’ Farmer dies aged 84 at Fiona Stanley Hospital
    PerthNow
    August 14, 2019 10:38AM
    Steve Butler
    Topics
    WA News
    WAFL
    Sport

    Graham “Polly” Farmer, arguably the greatest Australian rules footballer of all time, has died aged 84, surrounded by his family at Perth’s Fiona Stanley Hospital.

    The legend of many generations will be remembered as a game-changer at his peak and a role model to some of the best players to have played the game.

    Farmer, who was diagnosed with Alzheimer’s disease at the age of 60, will be long remembered for his feats as both a player and coach at the most elite levels of the game

    Breaking.

  124. Knuckle Dragger

    That shit in Sunbury is disgusting, Mater.

    If they’re going to retreat/be routed at the first sign of conflict, I don’t know why they’re carrying at all.

    Shoot back you cocks. That is what the public expects.

    Good friend of mine tells the new freshly-wrapped constables, ‘You are not there to be punching bags. Punch back, and as hard as you can. And if you don’t expect to be seriously injured at some point in your career you’re not having a crack.’

  125. notafan

    I got it wrong struth

    my bad

    this was the actual article you took exception to,

    to be clear as the author has pointed out, in this and other articles f ascism and leftardism have much in common but are not exactly the same and neither have much in common with freedom loving conservatives.

    okay here is the article that hurt your simplistic brain

  126. Tel

    Where can I buy a decent crate holster?

    They are stackable … use one crate as a holster for the other.

  127. Mater

    If they’re going to retreat/be routed at the first sign of conflict, I don’t know why they’re carrying at all.

    Agreed. If the government is going to neuter the rest of us and demand that we rely solely on their protection, they better bloody make sure the police are up for the job…and I’m not talk about the role of ‘Youth Engagement Officer’.
    I’ve got too many friends who have been badly injured on duty because their appointed offsider wasn’t ‘equipped’ for the job, either physically or mentally.

  128. rickw

    Then wait until the police show up in all their paramilitary gear.

    If Citizens didn’t have allahstabby completely contained and subdued, they would have spent the next 3 hours negotiating with him. Unless he decided to stab someone else, then they would have sprung into action, shooting some bystanders for good measure.

  129. notafan

    Will do Incoherent rambler

    the most prominent person on that list is, and always will be, srr, so you are in fine company.

    What a delight iit was to go back and read his/her insane splutterings.

    Lysander, John Constantine, oh come on, there was hardly a regular that didn’t get accused of something or the other.

  130. Percy Popinjay

    China “gifted” the African Union a headquarters building and then allegedly bugged it for state secrets

    I can’t envision Chinamen bugging the Yarra City Council chambers.

  131. struth

    Sheer exasperation with their condescending self-involvement is driving working class voters in particular to embrace various forms of populist nationalism. (Or, in Spain and Greece, various form of populist socialism.)

    Such populists are pushing nationalism (ethnicity politics) instead of patriotism (polity loyalty), and nationalist politics have all the nasty implications that identity politics do.

    Please roll tape on my disagreement with this article.
    If I did, it would be this part, which assumes nationalism is ethnicity politics, and using bullshit terms like “populists” which I still disagree with.
    I would have made a remark about this article that the writer is nearly there, but not quite.
    He still wants to be part of the elite, himself.
    But I’m impressed with you ability to say sorry, so let’s leave it there.
    You may come out of the kitchen.

  132. Percy Popinjay

    Breaking: Beryl Gladyschlocklian Government announces statewide milk crate and cafe chair amnesty and buyback program.

  133. Top Ender

    incoherent rambler: Top Ender. What calibre cafe chair do you prefer to use?

    I insist on ones with five legs.

    It is my right as a woman.

    Don’t you oppress me, you piece of work!

  134. stackja

    Before the milk crate there was the billy can. Stuff the billy can over the head? Might need to push hard.

  135. Mother Lode

    Would I be right in guessing that on Knifey McStab’s home turf all the chairs are bolted to the ground so they can’t be stolen?

  136. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Revealed: Accused knifeman’s sister made a police complaint after alleged domestic violence

    Mert Ney’s sister has revealed she made a police complaint about the accused CBD knifeman after he allegedly “punched” her in the face at the family home in Sydney’s west last week.
    Danielle Gusmaroli, The Daily Telegraph
    Subscriber only
    |
    3 minutes ago

    Exclusive: The sister of accused CBD knifeman Mert Ney made a complaint to police alleging he punched her in the face and choked her six days before the rampage in Sydney’s CBD.

    The Daily Telegraph had revealed that Ney was wanted for questioning over the allegations relating to a domestic violence incident with a relative.

    His sister Yazel confirmed she was the complainant in the incident at the family home in Marayong, Sydney’s west, last Wednesday.

    Police were called to the family home after unemployed Ney, 20, allegedly punched his sister.

    “He ran at me, punched and choked me, I couldn’t breathe,” she said.

    She said her brother had battled anxiety, OCD, depression and schizophrenia for years and a person who would slash a woman’s throat and stab another was a “monster”

    Breaking.

  137. Percy Popinjay

    they would have sprung into action, shooting some bystanders for good measure

    Presumably after ventilating their own feet.

  138. Mother Lode

    Hey, you can’t break an egg without making an enormous omelet.

  139. Ragu

    Hey Frank of National Tiles

    Years ago you posted a pdf from the nsw law society called ‘pig dog xhunt’

    Can you please repost it?

    BTW, huge fan

  140. Mark from Melbourne

    The council, with three Greens councillors under the Yarra Greens banner

    As a resident of The People’s Democratic Republic of Yarrastan, let me assure you that the Greens are actually the conservative wing of the Council.

  141. Old School Conservative

    a person who would slash a woman’s throat and stab another was a “monster”

    Now where have I read of people preferring neck slashing as the best form of attack?
    Ah – got it! The Amalgamated Union Of Known Wolves. (h/t Steyn)

  142. 1735099

    Great article by a Finn about Australian education –
    He quotes Gonski –

    Funding for schooling must not be seen simply as a financial matter. Rather, it is about investing to strengthen and secure Australia’s future. Investment and high expectations must go hand in hand. Every school must be appropriately resourced to support every child and every teacher must expect the most from every child.

  143. Old School Conservative

    Numbers……Gonski…….no sense of satire!

  144. Boambee John

    opera star Placido Domingo

    Which PM wss it who vlaimed yo be the Placido Domingo of Australian politics?

  145. Boambee John

    Dratted keyboard!

  146. Mother Lode

    BJ,

    Blame MS Auto-Corrupt.

    I always do.

  147. feelthebern

    The fat prick copper on the bike hasn’t been around York street today.
    Usually you hear the chirps of his siren every couple of hours.
    Probably on stress leave.
    Or at Maccas.

  148. calli

    the toxic misogyny she witnessed during her 20-year political career ends.

    There’s something in that.

    If people are unkind to you for 20 years, it might mean something completely different.

    Perhaps they just didn’t like you, Julie.

  149. jo

    our first Climate Emergency Officer

    Runs in circles, hands in air whimpering.

  150. feelthebern

    Julia Bishop.
    James Hardie lawyer.
    Quota filling stick insect.
    Now will earn a brick chairing a university.
    A role model for all.

  151. notafan

    rolls eyes

    from 24 april 2017 thread

    It was also no accident that both Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany were aggressive powers: it was something their entire mode of politics was inherently directed towards. (It is also a sign of Franco not being a fascist, rather a traditionalist authoritarian who used some fascist rhetoric and props, that he made the achievement and maintenance of peace a key justifying prop of his regime.)
    As peacetime systems of rule, neither Fascist Italy or Nazi Germany were remotely as murderous or systematically oppressive as various Leninist regimes. But peacetime was not their time. It was particularly not in the case of Nazi Germany; lebensraum was Hitler’s political aim, the object the policy of his Reich was directed towards. It was in the removal of normal constraints that war entails which let loose the true megacidal horrors of Nazism.

    Yeah , he’s getting there chris, but he is still brainwashed.
    He still can’t get that all fascists and communists and socialists are birds of a left wing feather. (yes he does, and you can’t get that while they have a great deal in common they are not identical twins)

    They weren’t freedom loving, free trade, small government types.

    He dissects it and even coming from a different angle he can prove that the right are not fascists.
    There was no need for all that mental gymnastics. (yet most people would like proper explanations not unsupported statements on the basis of ‘I said so’)

    Although not murdering millions in peace time like Stalin, they were very much murderous, and with retarded people and unwanted pregnancies, they were horrific, and many others as we know (which is pretty much what Lorenzo wrote )
    But he’s getting there for a young gay bloke.

    you are kidding right? You are completely missing the point of the article and you clearly know nothing about the author.

    Lorenzo is making the point is that fascism didn’t emerge from thin air but as a reaction to communism. He is saying nothing in this article about their inherent similarities

    .

    Ok, I’ll go further.
    He is an urban elitist twat.

    He doesn’t see that what the left are doing is fascist (Antifi), he sees it as them (unlike him) being uneducated grandstanders by calling the right wingers fascists (He is correct).

    What has become conspicuous is a lot of shrieking-and-pointing about alleged fascists

    He somehow doesn’t see dressing in black and using violence against your political opponent as fascism (or communism or any other relentless group of totalitarians).
    How can he, it’s coming from the left? (he is not lol)

    … and now
    T

    he nationalist populisms of our time (notably, One Nation, National Front, Sweden Democrats, Party for Freedom, Flemish Interest, Alternative for Germany, etc) are not Fascist or Nazi, or even neo-Fascist or neo-Nazi, in any useful sense. They are responses to the way globalisation is dividing Western societies into anywheres and somewheres (David Goodhart), into cosmopolitans and parochials (Katharine Betts), with increasingly distinct experiences, perspectives and interests; to contemporary progressivist politics, and to failures of the mainstream centre-right, but they are much less feral responses than Fascism or Nazism because they are not responding to things anywhere near as violently threatening as Leninism in the aftermath of the Bolshevik Revolution, and its various copy-cat risings, or Stalinism in the context of widespread, intense, and apparently entrenched economic misery.

    This is really to the point.

    He uses the word populist.

    He believes, by following his links that there are losers to globalism and they’re out in the country (flyover people if he was in the states), that feel left out and isolated.

    That’s pure wanker, right there.
    There is no such thing as populism, it is a term used by wankers who think they know better, which he doesn’t.

    Anywheres and somewhere is horse hockey and so is cosmopolitans and parochials.

    He doesn’t see violent leftism for the fascism it is and doesn’t get why Geert Wilders and one nation and the like have emerged. (actually he does, he just points out that as the left are not as violent and extreme as the communists of the twenties and thirties, neither is the new opposition, though I suppose Christchurch would suggest that is changing).

    So as I said, he’s getting there , but it’s not a fascinating read due to his pompous urban superiority complex.

    (And for the record ‘he’ is a very well read sixty old ‘gay’. Nor is there anything nothing wrong with using the describing word ‘populism’ despite it being a favourite pejorative of the left, and that the US perspective of fly over country people (who voted for Trump en masse) is that they were indeed victims of globalism.

    Indeed it is pretty fascist to want to ban the use of a word you don’t like.

    A general point is that peace time fascism was comparatively benign in comparison to communism as well as being a reaction to communism and screeching that antifa are fascists really doesn’t advance you anywhere. )

    Of course the bottom line is that numbers decries fascism and applauds communism/socialism, which by any benchmark is hard to describe as rational or reasonable or indeed honest. while trying to make out that conservatives are the heirs of fascism which in the light of factual evidence about historical fascist doctrine and behavior is a pack of lies.

  152. our first Climate Emergency Officer

    Stop laughing, this is serious.

    Would all the Climatears please lineup against the bluestone wall?

  153. calli

    “It didn’t matter what the other woman said, the rest of us would go; ‘Oh God, that is brilliant. Did you all hear that?’ and so we do it now and reinforce each other’s point of view,” Ms Bishop said.

    Australia dodged a bullet there. We deserved her as PM, but the good Lord is very gracious.

  154. calli

    I just remembered. I have three collapsible attack crates in the car.

    With a large shopping bag, that could be classed as concealed carry.

  155. Mother Lode

    Perhaps they just didn’t like you, Julie.

    She got plum jobs first from Abbott, then from Trumble.

    She never made any mark on national debates, never championed a new initiative, never went into battle for the downtrodden, never had the opposition on the ropes, never planted her feet foursquare and set her jaw, defying opponents to take her on.

    She was treated far better than she deserved. Cocktail soirees and a day in a silly hat at the races, and grinning like the lightweight she is the whole time.

    And she puts the indifference of people to her bubblegum anodynes down to them having a problem with women in general – not just her.

    What a filthy ingrate.

    Please someone make sure she in ensconced in the Chancellor’s Office at whatever university she is going to..and wall the bloody door and windows up.

  156. Some History

    As a resident of The People’s Democratic Republic of Yarrastan, let me assure you that the Greens are actually the conservative wing of the Council.

    The tin-pot dictators of Virtue-Signalling Central… ahem, Yarra City Council.
    https://www.yarracity.vic.gov.au/about-us/council-people/councillors

    Upcoming event as VSC:

    Lesbian, gay, bisexual, trans and gender diverse, and intersex elders and their allies are invited to attend this free monthly social event. Join other LGBTI+ elders and allies and learn new dances, enjoy food and drinks, and make friends.

    LGBTI+ Elders Dance Club champions the recreational and social rights of LGBTI+ elders, creating a regular, safe and inclusive space for the community.

    https://www.yarracity.vic.gov.au/events/2019/08/18/lgbti-elders-dance-club-2019

  157. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Runs in circles, hands in air whimpering’

    I can do that!

  158. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Lesbian, gay, bisexual, trans and gender diverse, and intersex elders and their allies are invited to attend this free monthly social event. Join other LGBTI+ elders and allies and learn new dances, enjoy food and drinks, and make friends.

    friends… really really special friend…

  159. Des Deskperson

    I’ve just picked up a promo for an event that I had hoped had lapsed into desuetude, namely the Canberra Writers Festival.

    This year’s gala features , even more than ever before, a bumper crop of the usual orthodox progressive para intellectuals. Stars include, in no particular order, Katherine Murphy. Malcolm Farr, Kevin Rudd, Laura Tingle, Katherine Murphy (again), Bob Brown, Mark Kenny, Paul Daley, Don Watson, Bob Brown (again), Katherine Murphy (yet again) Greg Jericho, Fitzgibbons, Bonge, Mark Scott, Rev Rod Bower, Emma Alberici, Rod Bower (again) Bonge (again), Don Watson (again), Emma Alberici (again) and Jane Caro at lest twice .

    It’s a fairly incestuous field, but this year they also seem, more than usually, to be recycling mates and matesses though the programme; I guess it’s cheaper in terms of fares and accommodation.

    The only obvious conservative is Chris Kenny.

    This item struck me:

    https://www.canberrawritersfestival.com.au/event/whom-pell-tolls

    ‘The Catholic Church in Australia is in crisis. The sentencing of Cardinal George Pell, Australia’s most senior Church leader, mesmerised and shocked the public and dealt another devastating blow to the trust and faithfulness of Catholic parishioners worldwide. David Marr, journalist and author of The Prince: Faith, Abuse and George Pell, joins best-selling author of Cardinal: The Rise and Fall of George Pell Louise Milligan to assess the impact of the recent appeal. Where to now for the Catholic Church?”

    Marr and Milligan; It won’t be much of a debate. On the other hand, it isn’t until 24 August. The Pell appeal may have been adjudicated by then, and if it overturns the conviction, I’d love to see their faces.

  160. Mater

    I just remembered. I have three collapsible attack crates in the car.

    That’s equivalent to a folding or collapsible stock, Calli. Completely illegal.
    Mind you, regardless of its functionality, if they have any resemblance to a ‘military style’ crate, you are in breech of the law anyway.
    The government clearly needs to announce a crate amnesty, toot sweet.

  161. Some History

    More “inclusivity”

    https://leisure.yarracity.vic.gov.au/events/2019/08/18/pride-night-august-2019

    Training The Children™ in “climate justice” (whatever that means)

    Run by and for young people, the Student Climate Justice Training is a full-day of skill-sharing for secondary school students.
    Participants will hear from other young people who have been working for a safer climate future, gain the skills to get involved in upcoming student climate events such as the September 20 Strike, and meet other students who care about creating a better, fairer future. Plus, they’ll plan powerful campaigns to drive the clean energy transition we need.

    https://www.yarracity.vic.gov.au/events/2019/08/25/student-climate-justice-summit

  162. Roger

    Reports the Ney fellow was recently bailed by a magistrate on a weapons charge.

  163. Beachcomber

    The performing stick insect.

    What a filthy ingrate. ✔✔

    ….. ensconced in the Chancellor’s Office at whatever university she is going to..

    The gravy train extremely well-paid cushy appointments never ends for the Inner Party elites.

  164. Some History

    The Children™ after “training”

    https://imgur.com/GmQ5M75

  165. Some History

    Welcome to the Student Climate Justice Summit

  166. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Welcome to the Student Climate Justice Summit

    I can’t really see any of those little snowflakes defending the revolution, in the streets, to the last person, and the last round.

  167. Chris

    I can’t really see any of those little snowflakes defending the revolution, in the streets, to the last person, and the last round.

    I can – they will find the last person accused of thoughtcrime, their last walk down the sanded corridor and a renewable ‘nine grams’.

  168. Some History

    Some are probably asking, “Surely there must be a pub footy pride round?”

    Good news, safe spacers:

    Come along to The Renegade Pub Football League’s inaugural Pride Round.
    Victoria Park will be painted rainbow for Round 7 with an afternoon of gender inclusive Aussie Rules football. Celebrating diversity and inclusion in sport, alongside DJs, bars and a fundraising BBQ run by queerspace.
    Bars will be open from 12.30pm and stocked with beer and cider from Thunder Road Brewing Company and Young Henrys. All bars are cash only and must close 15 minutes before the end of the final game. Bring your family, dogs included, and enjoy a great community day out.
    Schedule
    1:00pm – Crazy Arms Bats vs. Victoria Hotel Football Club
    2.30pm – Guest Speakers: City of Yarra Mayor, Cr Danae Bosler
    2:50pm – The Old Bar Unicorns vs. The Easybeats FC
    4:30pm – East Brunswick Eye Gougers vs. Lomond Hotel Barracudas FC

    All Renegade Pub Football League events are safe and inclusive spaces.

    This event is in partnership with Pride Cup and queerspace, and supported by Yarra City Council.

    https://www.yarracity.vic.gov.au/events/2019/08/24/pub-footy-pride-round

  169. Old School Conservative

    Beachcomber
    #3131673, posted on August 14, 2019 at 3:44 pm
    The performing stick insect.
    The gravy train extremely well-paid cushy appointments never ends for the Inner Party elites.

    Hence the noticeable absence of a sense of outrage from Labor over Payne’s negotiations for a defence-related private job while still the Minister for Defence.
    The uniparty share the perks around.

  170. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Bourke Street victims’ families fight police move to suppress evidence at inquest

    Tessa Akerman
    Reporter
    @TessaAkerman
    2 hours ago August 14, 2019
    5 Comments

    The families of the Bourke Street victims are fighting Victoria Police over a bid to suppress key evidence in the inquest.

    James Gargasoulas murdered Yosuke Kanno, 25, Jess Mudie, 23, Matthew Si, 33, Bhavita Patel, 33, Tahlia Hakin, 10, and three-month-old Zachary Matthew Bryant when he drove a car in Melbourne’s CBD in January 2017.

    Gargasoulas was sentenced earlier this year to six life sentences with a non-parole period of 46 years.

    Coroner Jacqui Hawkins will preside over the inquest later this year examining Victoria Police policies and procedures as well as the lead up to the tragedy.

    Victoria Police is seeking suppression orders on its current pursuit policy, identities of some officers and a Critical Incident Review prepared shortly after the rampage.

    Today barrister Dr Sue McNicol QC, for the families, said the documents went “to the heart of this inquest”.

    She said a suppression or non-publication order would render the inquest unworkable.

    She also said much of the material was already in the public domain.

    Dr Ian Freckleton QC, representing the Chief Commissioner Graham Ashton, said the review was an internal document and making it public would risk “full candour” of officers in future reviews.

    From the Oz. Fatty Ashton’s flying circus moving to cover their ample arses.

  171. cohenite

    Ah guns; the resident troll wants no one to have them except police. Having trained police and security guards in shooting I find that grotesque.

    I get back to the first amendment which the troll can’t get around; law abiding citizens have the right to defend themselves. Non law abiding people don’t.

    The most violent nations have always been leftie/commie/fascist, which are all essentially the same from the viewpoint of the punter. Gun crime in:

    USSR 60 million
    China 80 million
    Cambodia 2 million
    Cuba 1 million
    etc
    That’s gun crime. Of course the commies didn’t like to waste bullets so a lot of those killed were by non-gun methods. But, hey, when the citizenry can’t shoot back you can be versatile.

  172. Old School Conservative

    Under NO circumstances go to Michael Smith’s page to see Julie Bishop in a shoulderless, armless, thigh-high little red number.
    A great outfit – for a 25 year old.

  173. feelthebern

    Looking for a silver lining.
    Yesterday’s Sydney stabber took the conversation away from cunnilingus & delipidation.

  174. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    A great outfit – for a 25 year old.

    “Mutton dressed as lamb” as my grandmother used to say.

  175. Lilliana

    I have a couple of crates in my garage. I’m starting to feel nervous. Do I have to register my crate?

  176. feelthebern

    Mutton dressed as mutton.

  177. Des Deskperson

    Offal dressed as mutton.

  178. Mother Lode

    An (Egyptian) mummy dressed as a model.

    If you have seen the mummies relieved of the bandages you will know what I mean.

  179. calli

    Okay. I admit it. I went there.

    It looks like something from Madame Tussauds.

  180. 1735099

    I get back to the first amendment which the troll can’t get around; law abiding citizens have the right to defend themselves. Non law abiding people don’t.

    Unfortunately, people move between these two states.
    I’ll tell you something you seem to be completely unaware of – the populace is not divided into goodies and baddies.

  181. Yesterday’s Sydney stabber took the conversation away from cunnilingus & delipidation.

    Sorry.

    Let’s get back on track and talk about serious topics.

    How’s yer nutsack IT?

  182. calli

    It’s back now, IT.

    Open the link above. It’s very, very serious indeed.

  183. Old Lefty

    Like Dr BF, I generally go for the cock-up rather than the conspiracy theory. But Mokbel nearly getting done on (and maybe suffering permanent brain damage, according to one media report I saw) just before the RC into the Vic police and Ms Gobbo really does invite suspicion. I’ll take a lot of convincing that it was just a couple of Pacific Island hoods upset at the suggestion that they didn’t control the prison rackets.

  184. egg_

    We never found out whether it had never been sent or if it “disappeared” in transit; the boss suspected the former, I suspected the latter.

    I suspect the former, there’s Youtube videos of “White Van” speakers ex China containing bricks to make up the weight, a common practice apparently.

  185. egg_

    to get somebody into the cell block, the cell and then the rough stuff. It takes collusion between two or many players, and is the first thing the Coroner will look for. I would be looking at the process of taking him off 24 hr watch, who applied, who approved, who actioned. The video surveillance failures….

    Blind Freddy would smell a rat.

  186. Old Lefty

    Interested to read in The Oz that two members of the public who restrained Ney acted out of their Christian conviction that they should help others. Don’t hold your breath waiting for the ABC to report that. Down the memory hole with their pin-up p3rverts Richard Neville and his p3d3rast mates, Jon Stephens and Carl Beech.

  187. egg_

    Back in reality anyone who knows finnish men knows they’re far from being the happiest people on earth (lol at even trying to measure that) they’re weird silent dour and slightly creepy (too much inbreeding?)

    I worked with a Global Finnish firm – dour cvnts, indeed.
    Don’t Scandinavians, Fins in particular, have the highest suicide rates?

    Q. How do you tell a Finnish extrovert?
    A. He looks at your shoes instead of his.

  188. Mother Lode

    Don’t Scandinavians, Fins in particular, have the highest suicide rates?

    Only because hearts are nearly bursting with contentment and they can’t bear it.

    Personally, I reckon cows standing all day in a field chewing grass would have one of the highest happiness indices on the farm.

  189. egg_

    Discussing the rampage on The Project, Aly told his co-hosts he did not think the videos of the incident needed to be broadcast.

    Their Muz zo Information Minister wishes to ignore a minor irritant?
    Strike me pink.

  190. Roger

    Don’t Scandinavians, Fins in particular, have the highest suicide rates?

    A myth, I think, or long outdated.

    Swedes, Norwegians & Danes also don’t regard the Finnish as being Scandinavian.

    They have a different ethnic make up, being most closely related to the Hungarians & other Uralian groups.

  191. egg_

    Their Muz zo Information Minister wishes to ignore a minor irritant?

    Methinks it wouldn’t take much badgering to turn Their Squalid into a wild-eyed, knife-wielding lunatic.

  192. Top Ender

    According to the ABC, Tuvulu is not sinking into the Pacific. Guess they won’t need any of the Aussie taxpayers’ $500 million then?

  193. cohenite

    the populace is not divided into goodies and baddies.

    Yes it is; or as they are better known, non-lefties and lefties. The difference is simple; lefties want other people to live how they think they should live; non-lefties want to live how they want to live.

    Act left think right

  194. 1735099

    Yes it is; or as they are better known, non-lefties and lefties.

    Yep.
    Cohenite is a bot.

  195. egg_

    (Hasn’t anyone told NumbNutz we’re all Sinc’s sockbots)

  196. Mark from Melbourne

    Some History, many thanks for sparing me the time to prove what a bunch of complete leftist wankers are the Yarrastan Council.

    Bizarrely, though, I must concede that they do a good job on the basics (garbage, roads, parks and what have you).

    Their problem is just that they are sitting on a pile of rates and, being leftists, simply have to find a way to spend same. Preferably on either (a) virtue signalling, (b) their mates or (c) themselves.

    Sadly, they do a good job of this as well.

    But don’t get me started on their planning stuff!

    On that subject, I asked a couple of days back and will do so again… anyone hereabouts who has experience with VCAT planning appeals? I am about to wander head on into a biggish one.

  197. Geriatric Mayfly

    friends… really really special friend…

    In idle conversation with the physio, just as he racked up the pain threshold, came an observation from some of the sports people he treats. Lottsa young ‘friends’ being discovered in wimmin’s sport, which could eventually build to another bout of public anguish “Why? Oh. Why?” Can’t imagine the Me Too movement getting much traction among the Lezzos or outfits like the ABC ever poking about (Sorry) in any rumoured cess pit.

  198. Anthony

    Does anyone give a shit about a church run by Frankie the Red?

  199. Nick

    Strange that the media haven’t made much of the young, good looking women killed in yesterday’s attack. Perhaps the attacker and victim don’t fit into the ‘violence against women is wrong’ meme ?

  200. On that subject, I asked a couple of days back and will do so again… anyone hereabouts who has experience with VCAT planning appeals?

    Spend a lot of money on the best QC you can find.
    VCAT people rollover for a prestigious QC.

    Anything else doesn’t matter.

  201. None

    Why is Cardinal Pell still in jail?

  202. Roger

    According to the ABC, Tuvulu is not sinking into the Pacific.

    Is the ABC calling the PM of Tuvalu a liar?

  203. Why is Cardinal Pell still in jail?

    He is in gaol, because he is taking his time to expire.

  204. None

    “Everybody regards that as an abhorrent practice,” Ms Berejiklian said.

    but of course if you abort a child because it’s part aboriginal or half Chinese or just the wrong race all together it’s perfectly acceptable full stop in fact if you just go to the doctor and say I don’t want this child it’s making me depressed it’s perfectly acceptable as well

  205. John Constantine

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_sauna

    Knew a Finnish chick once. Her insistence on the whole ‘ light birching’ being culturally an intrinsic part of the sauna experience is something i look back on as her excuse to cajole and beguile a simple country lad.

  206. Des Deskperson

    ‘Strange that the media haven’t made much of the young, good looking women killed in yesterday’s attack.’

    Ten News spent several minutes tonight about her, with a range of nice photos.

  207. calli

    Nick
    #3131722, posted on August 14, 2019 at 5:24 pm
    Strange that the media haven’t made much of the young, good looking women killed in yesterday’s attack. Perhaps the attacker and victim don’t fit into the ‘violence against women is wrong’ meme ?

    The ABC are onto it

    Apparently the chair and crate men are getting too much glory or summink.

    #toxicmasculinity

  208. Leigh Lowe

    Roger

    #3131672, posted on August 14, 2019 at 3:44 pm

    Reports the Ney fellow was recently bailed by a magistrate on a weapons charge.

    Really?
    If so, how does that sit with Plod saying “he was known to us” but “nothing to indicate this sort of action”.
    Are they saying, “Well, he hasn’t committed murder before, so how were we to know?”

  209. calli

    If I’m to be a sockbot, please let me be this sort. Ta.

  210. Anthony

    None
    #3131725, posted on August 14, 2019 at 5:27 pm
    Why is Cardinal Pell still in jail?

    Why is Cardinel Pell in jail?

  211. Nick

    Calli and Des, they are publishing her photo, but they aren’t ramping the ‘good looking woman victim of cruel violence’ as they might choose to do, say if Rosie Batty had a milkshake thrown at her.

  212. calli

    I think it was knuckledusters, LL.

  213. Roger

    Really?
    If so, how does that sit with Plod saying “he was known to us” but “nothing to indicate this sort of action”.

    Knuckledusters.

    A record of mental illness, done for possession of a banned weapon (in what circumstances?) yet it didn’t ring any alarm bells.

  214. Tintarella di Luna

    On the ABC news site

    A fellow sex worker said there was too much focus on men who confronted Ms Dunn’s alleged killer, rather than on her

    . Well it’s a shame that the dead sex worker is not available for interviews isn’t it? has that been lost on the fellow sex worker

  215. egg_

    If I’m to be a sockbot, please let me be this sort. Ta.

    Probably NumbNutz online outfit.

  216. Des Deskperson

    ‘Calli and Des, they are publishing her photo, but they aren’t ramping the ‘good looking woman victim of cruel violence’ as they might choose to do, say if Rosie Batty had a milkshake thrown at her.’

    Ten News was exactly ‘good looking woman victim of cruel violence’ . ‘Cherished victim who has so much to give’ (and this isn’t meant to sound cynical).

  217. Leigh Lowe

    Apparently the chair and crate men are getting too much glory or summink.

    1. Too much focus on Alexander the Crate, at the expense of the victim;
    2. Her family wants privacy.
    Not sure where to go with that. Focus on the crim’s family and background?

  218. Nick

    But are we at the Teddy Bear, candle, feminist vigil, with comments from the cops about ‘all men’, stage, yet ?

  219. egg_

    comments from the cops about ‘all men’, stage, yet ?

    We’re all potentially knife-wielding madmen and ra pists?
    /Frightbat

  220. Knuckle Dragger

    How much is Arkancide these days?

    Asking for one of Ney’s former housemates.

    Apparently he committed the cardinal sin of leaving pubes on the soap.

  221. cohenite

    These Pacific Island bludgers are pressing hard on alarmism and want us to stop using coal. Scomo is between a rock and a hard place because if he doesn’t give the island bludgers dosh they’ll suck chink dick. But how ironic is it when the chinks are going gangbusters with coal and the island bludgers are using coal to leverage dosh from the aussie idiots. How stupid are our pollies.

  222. Leigh Lowe

    Yeah.
    Knuckledusters are hardly a defensive measure.
    An AVO taken out by his sister.
    And he was on about Aloha Snackbar on Monday in his “homeless digs” then took a butcher’s knife and headed off on the train.
    No indication that anything could go wrong.

  223. Roger

    Knuckledusters are hardly a defensive measure.
    An AVO taken out by his sister.

    Plus theft & malicious damage.

  224. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Australia has to answer to Pacific: Ardern’s climate blast

    Ben Packham
    Foreign Affairs and Defence Correspondent
    @bennpackham
    2 hours ago August 14, 2019
    525 Comments

    Jacinda Ardern has warned “Australia has to answer to the Pacific” for its position on climate change, ramping up the pressure on Scott Morrison at the Pacific island Forum in Tuvalu, where island states want a tough statement calling for an economic transition from coal.

    As the Morrison government lobbies hard behind the scenes to keep any reference to coal out of the final PIF communique, the New Zealand Prime Minister declared every nation needed to “do its bit” to fight climate change.

    Ms Ardern said New Zealand — like small island states — wanted measures to ensure global warming was kept to 1.5 degrees Celsius.

    “We will continue to say that New Zealand will do its bit. And we have an expectation that everyone else will as well. We have to,” she said after arriving in Tuvalu today.

    From the Oz. If Donkey Gnashers wants the New Zealanders to do their bit for climate change, she’ll just have to prevent their sheep from farting.

  225. These Pacific Island bludgers are pressing hard on alarmism and want us to stop using coal.

    Yet they use diesel generators for their power

  226. cohenite

    The only issue relevant to knife man is allens snackbar; of all the fucking things a loon can yell out when he’s on his knife rampage the loon sticks to allens snackbar. Strange innit?

  227. Roger

    20/20 hindsight is a wonderful thing, but I’m sure this is going to be yet another case where the justice system has failed to protect the public. But for the heroics of the crate & chair men, it could have been much worse.

  228. Frank

    But are we at the Teddy Bear, candle, feminist vigil, with comments from the cops about ‘all men’, stage, yet ?

    There needs to be the ritual releasing of the balloons at the local park before retiring to the housing commission flat with a box of goon before it’s official. That’s just for people that don’t know her.

  229. Nick

    An interesting twitter feed that opines about how the HK protests are viewed in China:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/dakekang/status/1161125128882667520

  230. Robber Baron

    I say let the chinks have every mooching pacific island nation. We should invest the cash savings in nuclear missiles, low taxes and dirt cheap power. We will become an industrial giant (once we crush the unions) a booming economy (once we gut government) and a respected and feared power with nukes.

    Indonesia, Malaysia, Vietnam, PNG, NZ and all the tin pot pacific island nations will finally shut their mouths.

  231. Bruce of Newcastle

    Jacinda Ardern has warned “Australia has to answer to the Pacific” for its position on climate change

    Maybe the islanders could sacrifice her in a volcano to placate Gaia? It would be just as effective, and a lot cheaper.

  232. cohenite

    Apparently omar and another of her crew are off to Israel to check things out; this and all the latest from the jolly world of RoP;

    https://www.jihadwatch.org/

  233. thefrollickingmole

    Meanwhile on airstrip one things are going so well they can afford to spunk money up the wall monitoring ads for wrongthink…

    First ads banned for contravening UK gender stereotyping rules
    Watchdog bans VW and Philadelphia ads with bungling dads and ‘passive’ women

    Two television ads, one featuring new dads bungling comically while looking after their babies and the other a woman sitting next to a pram, have become the first to be banned under new rules designed to reduce gender stereotyping.

    The Advertising Standards Authority banned the ads, for Volkswagen and Philadelphia cream cheese, following complaints from the public that they perpetuated harmful stereotypes.

    The new rules, introduced at the beginning of the year, ban the depiction of men and women engaged in gender-stereotypical activities to help stop “limiting how people see themselves and how others see them and the life decisions they take”.

    The ad for Volkswagen’s electric eGolf vehicle showed a series of scenes including a man and a woman in a tent on a sheer cliff face, two male astronauts, a male para-athlete and a woman sitting on a bench next to a pram. Text stated: “When we learn to adapt we can achieve anything.”

    Complainants said the ad showed men engaged in adventurous activities, that unlike her male counterpart, the female rock climber was “passive” because she was asleep, and that the woman with the pram was depicted in a stereotypical care-giving role.
    Volkswagen said its ad was not sexist and that caring for a newborn was a life-changing experience about adaptation, regardless of the gender of the parent depicted.

    The ASA, however, “concluded that the ad presented gender stereotypes in way that was likely to cause harm”.

    In the ad for the Mondelez-owned cream cheese brand, two new dads were shown eating lunch at a restaurant where food circulated on a conveyor belt. While chatting they accidentally find their babies are whisked away on it. “Let’s not tell mum,” one of them says.
    Complainants said the tongue-in-cheek ad perpetuated a harmful stereotype suggesting men were incapable of caring for children and would put them at risk as a result of their incompetence.

    Mondelez told the ASA it was stuck in a no-win situation, having specifically chosen two dads to avoid depicting the stereotypical image of showing two new mums handling all the childcare responsibilities.

    The ASA banned the ad, saying it reinforced the idea that men were ineffective childcarers.

    In a just world these people would be harvesting horse apples off the street to burn in winter to keep themselves warm
    https://www.asa.org.uk/about-asa-and-cap/people.html

    Awful people, imagine having a whole organisation devoted to knicker sniffing at ads for political correctness.

    They should be spammed with these till their tiny heads pop.

  234. Nick

    The Project’s Waleed Aly said he couldn’t see himself apprehending the suspect
    He added he did not think the public should see footage of the shocking attack
    ‘I feel like we are being traumatised by watching it,’ the presenter told co-hosts

    But of course..

  235. Goanna

    Back in reality anyone who knows finnish men knows they’re far from being the happiest people on earth (lol at even trying to measure that) they’re weird silent dour and slightly creepy (too much inbreeding?)

    Gene mutation linked to reckless drunken behavior
    Summary.

    ” Researchers of the University of Helsinki, Finland, have identified a genetic mutation which renders carriers susceptible to particularly impulsive and reckless behavior when drunk. The research took advantage of the unique Finnish data on impulsive sufferers of alcoholism and their relatives, and the discovery is based on long-term research cooperation between the University of Helsinki Psychiatry Clinic and the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism in the United State ”

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/11/151117112049.htm

  236. Leigh Lowe

    The Project’s Waleed Aly said he couldn’t see himself apprehending the suspect
    He added he did not think the public should see footage of the shocking attack
    ‘I feel like we are being traumatised by watching it,’ the presenter told co-hosts

    Yeah.
    Must be tough to watch when an operative of your military wing gets taken down.

  237. Roger

    Jacinda Ardern has warned “Australia has to answer to the Pacific” for its position on climate change

    That’s quite a chip she has on her shoulder.

  238. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    “Metaphor” has been used as an excuse for porky pies here of late

    And also (I trust IT was speaking in moral metaphor), for giving self and others moral license to go out and in a sense of retribution take the lives of those with whom they strongly morally disagree. The rule of law must always prevail; if one disagrees then conscientiously object in a non-violent manner or work legislatively to change it but never take the law into your own hands in a retributional or violent fashion or encourage others to do so – that way lies madness.

  239. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    ABC fails to ask questions on climate change to Tuvalu PMCHRIS KENNY
    Tuvalu’s Prime Minister Enele Sopoaga was interviewed on the ABC’s Radio National this morning.
    Tuvalu’s Prime Minister Enele Sopoaga was interviewed on the ABC’s Radio National this morning.

    2 hours ago August 14, 2019
    160 Comments

    Scott Morrison was mocked last month for asking whose side Labor was on. Voters expect our federal politicians to be on Australia’s side.

    But it doesn’t always look like that is the case. We see this playing out now in the absurd and transparent climate politics of the Pacific with small island nations trying to blame their climate woes on Australia, while taking our aid and cosying up to China.

    It is as silly as it is insulting. With an annual contribution of more than $1 billion, Australia is by far the largest aid donor to the Pacific, providing more than the US, China, Japan and New Zealand combined. So we should, as a former colonial power and the strongest regional economy it is our responsibility and in our interests.

    And when it comes to climate change, we are not the culprit. We are pledged to meeting Paris emissions reduction targets, wearing enormous economic pain to do so.

    On the other hand, China’s carbon dioxide emissions are growing each year by about our annual total, producing roughly 20 times our emissions this year, 21 times next year and so on. If Pacific island nations are worried about carbon emissions, then it is their Chinese suitors that deserve their ire.

    Instead, they snap at the hand that helps them; a country responsible for 1.3 per cent of global emissions. The Prime Minister of Tuvalu appeared on ABC Radio National this morning and scoffed at Australia’s latest $500 million climate change package for Pacific Island nations.

    Enele Sopoaga said it seemed like “an excuse not to stop coal mining not to reduce greenhouse gases into the atmosphere” — seemingly asking Australia to shut down our largest export industry. “It is just immoral,” Mr Sopoaga added, “it is almost like giving money to people to shut up, not to talk about their rights to survive, it is the right of the people of Tuvalu and small islands to survive.”

    The fact is that while scientists warn about the risks of rising sea levels, the climate stubbornly refuses to behave in accordance with climate modelling. And regardless of steady sea level rises over the past century, scientific studies have shown the low-lying islands of Tuvalu have grown in their land mass by three per cent over the past four decades, with three quarters of all islands growing rather than shrinking.

    Wot Robber Baron said up thread. A billion dollars a year?

  240. Empire 5:5

    The new rules, introduced at the beginning of the year, ban the depiction of men and women engaged in gender-stereotypical activities to help stop “limiting how people see themselves and how others see them and the life decisions they take”.

    On this basis, they will have to ban all advertising. The entire MO of the media-entertainment complex is “limiting how people see themselves and how others see them and the life decisions they take”.

  241. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    That’s quite a chip she has on her shoulder.

    A woodchip. New Zealand’s Chinese-leased wharves are full of logs grown on Chinese-leased land by and for export to China to be chipped up. A carbon product that will eventually disintegrate putting out carbon dioxide. One of their major export earners.

    Let the forests bloom for the sake of the planet, Jacinta, you hypocrite.

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