Tuesday Forum: August 13, 2019

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  1. Percy Popinjay

    Water runs downhill, not uphill.

    Not according to this sadly missed and greatly beloved Sage of Scientism.

  2. 1735099

    Surely you’ve got an anecdote where in you save the day by verbally eviscerating some poor soul for using such unacceptable terminology?

    Not my job.
    The HREOC does that.

  3. Leigh Lowe

    windy.com shows a large anticyclone dominating the Atlantic. The little tyke might sneak through. Alas no icebergs. A whale with a sense of irony, might take one for the team.
    So the Thunberg vs Iceberg bout is off?

  4. Farmer Gez

    Pell decision next Wednesday live at 9.30.

  5. Percy Popinjay

    Los Angeles county has a registration rate of 112% its adult population
    The entire state of California has a registration rate of 101%
    11 of 58 counties in CA have registration rates above 100%

    Bwahahahahahaha! A certain tiresome monomaniacal narcissistic onanist must have been their maths “tacher”.

  6. Leigh Lowe

    Blockquote fail.

    windy.com shows a large anticyclone dominating the Atlantic. The little tyke might sneak through. Alas no icebergs. A whale with a sense of irony, might take one for the team.

    So the Thunberg vs Iceberg bout is off?

  7. jupes

    A few thoughts on Polly Farmer.

    A lot of the eulogies are making a lot of Farmer’s Aboriginality, which is fair enough, however they are focusing on the racial abuse angle. Farmer himself never complained about it at the time saying:

    “In those days … there was only two ways to lower the ability of opposing players … either slander them or physically assault them,” Farmer said in 1999.
    “In my case I didn’t have a problem with that because all I did when I heard it, I came back just as strong.
    “If a person was slandering me all I wanted to do was beat him fairly and squarely out on the footy field.
    “If I had to stand and defend myself every time someone called me a ‘d***ie’ or a ‘n*****’ or a ‘b***g’, all I’d do would be fighting all day.
    “So I just accepted the fact that was going on and hardened myself to it.”

    So not Adam Goodes then. The fact is that despite allegedly living in more racist times, Polly Farmer was accepted for exactly what he was. A champion ruckman, the only player to change the way the game was played by introducing the aggressive use of handball.

    Another interesting snippet of his life is that he appreciated the upbringing he had at Sister Kates Anglican home for half-caste Aboriginal kids. This place is now demonised as a racist hell-hole but that’s not how Polly Farmer saw it:

    After Sister Kate’s death, the home became notorious for the abuse and neglect of children, but Farmer said the 13 years he spent there were “a very good time in my life”.
    “Sister Kate’s children were treated like any other kids. You just lived a normal life where you went to the local schools,” he said.
    “There was nothing that I had that stood out, because we had nothing.
    “We wore bare feet, we didn’t have many clothes, we certainly didn’t have any money, but we did have our ability to live.
    “And I don’t think any of us missed out on anything.
    “You were given a fair amount of freedom and encouragement and a fair amount of religious upbringing, which meant that all the kids were taught right from wrong.
    “And I think it stood them all in good stead and gave us an opportunity to be reasonably educated, and if you had any ambition, an opportunity to take advantage of it.”

    Sam Newman played with Polly for over 80 games when he was at Geelong. His tribute to Polly Farmer on AFL 360 tonight was as fine a tribute as I have ever heard about any man ever. It was superb. Of course Newman is now considered a racist because he called bullshit on Adam Goodes’ victimhood.

    Vale Polly Farmer. One of the greatest players to have ever played the game.

  8. Bruce of Newcastle

    I see the enfant terrible has set sail in her hand-carved eco zero-carbon carbon fibre vessel with it’s artisan hemp sails. She demands Climate Action. A nice big Atlantic storm should do the trick.

    Two weeks pooping in a bucket with no privacy should help her get a feeling for reality.

    Teen Climate Change Activist Sails from England to NYC for Summit Sans Toilet, Shower

    Greta Thunberg, the teen face of the youth climate change movement, set sail on Wednesday from England to New York City for a United Nation’s summit on a “zero-emissions” racing yacht that has no toilet or shower but does have a solar panel.

    They didn’t have lavatories in the caves either, lady, so don’t send us back to them.

  9. Geriatric Mayfly

    Pell decision next Wednesday live at 9.30.

    Code Blue at the ABC. All hands on deck, no resources to be spared. Two responses to the decision must be prepared by Monday and submitted to the Bias Unit for endorsement. All corrections will be binding.

  10. Dr Faustus

    Scott Morrison is today sitting down at a retreat with PI leaders calling for the Australian coal industry and ‘fossil fuel generation’ to be shut down within 10 years.

    Hard to see how you could have a polite conversation for a whole day on that topic.

    Although Jacinda Arden is helping:

    ‘Australia has to answer to the Pacific’ on climate change, Jacinda Ardern says

    Let China have them…

  11. Leigh Lowe

    ‘Australia has to answer to the Pacific’ on climate change, Jacinda Ardern says

    Here, have a bag of oats.
    And shut the fuck up.

  12. Geriatric Mayfly

    Greta Thunberg, the teen face of the youth climate change movement, set sail on Wednesday from England to New York City for a United Nation’s summit on a “zero-emissions” racing yacht that has no toilet or shower but does have a solar panel.

    There will be some unwholesome emissions up on the poop deck.

  13. Bruce of Newcastle

    Hopefully Jacinda sailed to Tuvalu on a yacht with no toilet.
    And will return to Unzud the same way.
    Or is she a hypocrite?

  14. John Constantine

    United Kingdom announces that it will fit microphones to speed cameras to book vehicles that are too noisy.

    Booking proles with chicom secret police spy microphones.

    I have always loved Big brother

  15. Leigh Lowe

    Channel Nein reports that the Supreme Court will rule on whether Pell “can launch an appeal.”
    Kiddie journos.

  16. thefrollickingmole

    I lmow its probably not polite but the young lady killed by the mad bastard was a pretty common sort, using the gash card to pay for a fairly rich lifestyle.

    Sex work is work, she was working.

    “Her job does not make her a lurid story. She was a person and she is now gone. And she is gone because male violence has taken her from us.”

    If people want to play the “male violence” card for a madman then Im sure playing the “she was just a dead whore” is just as valid.

    Ms Dunn’s Instagram account shows she had recently travelled to Sri Lanka and the USA on a months-long trip with friends.

    Videos showed her celebrating New Year’s Eve in Sri Lanka, before attending the popular music festival Coachella in April.

    The god of the copybook headings slouches into view again.

  17. Top Ender

    I see the enfant terrible has set sail in her hand-carved eco zero-carbon carbon fibre vessel

    From memory the proposed voyage time is two weeks. What are the chances of the following:

    – whale strike, real or imagined, breaks boat. Helicopter evacuation for the TV cameras. Whale has buggered off by evac time. (30%)

    – boat runs into giant sea of garbage. Helicopter evacuation for the TV cameras. Garbage collection mysteriously disappears by evac time. (20%)

    – Greta has meltdown brought on by spectrum disorder. Blames meltdown on world not doing enough to stop glowball warminge. Helicopter evacuation for the TV cameras. (40%)

    – Boat never seen again, due to kidnap from irritated UN officials angry at being pushed out of the spotlight too much. (15%)

    Note: 5% over realm of possibilities ignored due to “numbers don’t matter, only solutions do.”

  18. Mater

    Scott Morrison is today sitting down at a retreat with PI leaders calling for the Australian coal industry and ‘fossil fuel generation’ to be shut down within 10 years.

    That’s an interesting aspiration considering:

    Australia will need to build the Snowy hydro scheme expansion eight times over in the next 20 years to provide enough storage as renewable energy surges into the grid, according to the energy market operator’s chief planner.

    Water and topography are clearly not issues in Australia. Nor the Greens aversion to dams.

  19. Roger

    Scott Morrison is today sitting down at a retreat with PI leaders calling for the Australian coal industry and ‘fossil fuel generation’ to be shut down within 10 years.

    Er…Matthias, those cheques haven’t been signed off yet, have they?

  20. Tel

    If people want to play the “male violence” card for a madman then Im sure playing the “she was just a dead whore” is just as valid.

    Strangely OK to stereotype all men, but not OK to stereotype hookers. Hard to explain, huh?

  21. Mother Lode

    Weird.

    I keep getting messages saying the site can’t be reached if the comment is more than a dozen lines. With quotes.

  22. Roger

    And she is gone because male violence has taken her from us.

    Violence does not identify as male.

  23. Johno

    On Nov 4 2016 the Dow was 17,888. After the write down yesterday it finished at 25,479. So it’s still up 7,591. That’s a pretty impressive up tick.

  24. Roger

    Morrison government minister announces major immigration reform:

    More international students!

    Rationale: More inputs = more outputs!

    Stick a fork in us, we’re done.

  25. Johno

    you have some interesting turns of phrase ‘Mole. The gash card is a keeper.

  26. johanna

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
    #3131821, posted on August 14, 2019 at 7:47 pm

    Hairy just tells me of a really sad back story to that young murdered woman: country girl up from Wagga, trying to earn quick cash some ‘new way’, subject to influence, a first timer on the game, and meeting up with a sex-twisted lunatic. So awful for her parents and family. A dreadful death in all ways.

    Really? An innocent little battler, a babe in the woods? Forced to sell her body to put food on the table?

    Ms Dunn’s Instagram account shows she had recently travelled to Sri Lanka and the USA on a months-long trip with friends.

    Videos showed her celebrating New Year’s Eve in Sri Lanka, before attending the popular music festival Coachella in April.

    Some people will believe anything.

  27. Dr Faustus

    Miserable Ghost’s legacy staggers on towards the financial grave:

    NBN will be complete by mid-2020 within revised budget, says CEO Stephen Rue

    Total revenue for NBN Company is up 43 per cent to $2.83 billion with earnings before tax of $608 million compared to a $103 million loss in the previous financial year.

    The NBN now has 5.53 million customers, up 37 per cent, with improved revenue per user of $46 and improving levels of customer service.

    The last NBNCo Half Year report tells us that these 5.5 million lucky customers are out of 8.3 million connected premises – not a bad take-up for a Government-mandated monopoly. And a monster financial return financial: $608m EBITDA on $31 bn capex = 1.9%.
    Stonking.

    Easy to see why the CEO can brush away criticism:

    Mr Rue rejected suggestions the NBN is a “cut-price lemon” and that its value will need to be written down by the federal government if it can’t be sold to the private sector after completion.

    “A write-down is an accounting concept and given the strength of our business there is no requirement to adjust the current value of our assets,” Mr Rue said.

    So, on track to spend $51 bn, deliver shite service to 10 million customers with no choice, and (on present performance) deliver a pretax ROI of about 2.5%.

    Good enough for government work.

  28. Leigh Lowe

    Johno

    #3132111, posted on August 15, 2019 at 9:24 am

    you have some interesting turns of phrase ‘Mole. The gash card is a keeper.

    I have heard the expression “shaking the money maker” as well.

  29. Cassie of Sydney

    “thefrollickingmole
    #3132097, posted on August 15, 2019 at 9:11 am
    I lmow its probably not polite but the young lady killed by the mad bastard was a pretty common sort, using the gash card to pay for a fairly rich lifestyle.

    “Sex work is work, she was working.

    “Her job does not make her a lurid story. She was a person and she is now gone. And she is gone because male violence has taken her from us.””

    Thanks…you’ve just posted what I have been pondering since last night…when the full story emerged about her. She was working as a prostitute…a whore….I hate this term “sex worker”….it equates “sex for money” to being a secretary or lawyer. It legitimises prostitution….which is what she was doing…selling her body for money. Yes…she was a person…and judging by the pictures….a very pretty person….and now she’s gone….her throat slit by a grub. But this pretty young woman had choices….she chose to use her body to make quick bucks……there are women on this planet who don’t have choices. It was easy money for her to travel the world.

  30. Top Ender

    Trouble at ‘t mill?

    NZ Foreign Minister Winston Peters has walked back his prime minister’s challenge to Scott Morrison to explain Australia’s position on climate change, saying Pacific nations need to look at the “big picture”, including China’s massive coal-fired economy.

    The NZ deputy PM told ABC radio this morning that calls for Australia to “step-up” on climate change were a “bit of a paradox” as many Pacific countries were seeking cheap loans from China “on the back of coal-fired everything”.

    Mr Peters’ comments came after PM Jacinda Ardern said every nation needed to “do its bit” to fight climate change, and “Australia has to answer to the Pacific” for its own emissions policies.

  31. areff

    Faustus: Steve Baxter demolished the NBN at CPAC on Saturday morning. His 2016 analysis remains valid as ever:

    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/innovation-really-counts-stephen-baxter/

  32. cuckoo

    The victim of the Sydney psycho stabber is a tragedy, no question. But to listen to the ABC report last night you would have thought she was a nurse volunteering in a children’s leper colony. Crapping on about her “bright future”.

  33. cuckoo

    Sometimes the propaganda is so blatant: this morning on ABC radio news they were airing a ‘study’ which ‘shows’ that women who have three or more children have a higher risk of dying of heart disease.

  34. Bruce of Newcastle

    An innocent little battler, a babe in the woods?

    Jo – I suspect she was to some extent. It’s a dangerous profession. Sex ed in schools should teach about that, but it would go against the prevailing lefty religion to address practically useful issues.

  35. Cassie of Sydney

    ““bright future”.

    Yes…she may have had a “bright future” but she deliberately made bad choices that imperilled her future…all for a quick buck….she chose to work as a WHORE to make buckets of money to travel and party across the globe…..it’s not as though she was sitting at her desk working as a secretary or marketing assistant and the assailant came up behind her and slit her throat.

    I suppose people think I’m being mean….but spare me the sanctimony.

  36. P

    Farmer Gez
    #3132081, posted on August 15, 2019 at 8:42 am

    Pell decision next Wednesday live at 9.30.

    Thanks Farmer Gez for the early news.

    George Pell’s appeal against his child sex abuse convictions will be decided by a court next week
    Three judges have scrutinised the case and will take their seats behind the bench to announce their decision from 9:30am on Wednesday.

  37. C.L.

    Pell decision next Wednesday live at 9.30.

    I can only read this as bad news.
    If they had acquitted, they would be morally obliged to free him now and read the decision next Wednesday. That is, unless for justice’ sake they want him to be publicly liberated in the same manner in which he was publicly condemned. And I doubt that sentiment is likely – for the very simple reason that the appeals court could still televise the reading whether or not Pell was already released or not.

  38. Old School Conservative

    It was cruel watching Richo with Jones on Sky last night.
    Jones carried the whole show with Richo looking and acting like Bernie Lomax, post heroin overdose.

    Surely someone with a sense of decency will get Richo off the airwaves and into care.

  39. Cassie of Sydney

    “C.L.
    #3132128, posted on August 15, 2019 at 9:49 am”

    Agree….I fear the worst.

  40. 1735099

    Miserable Ghost’s legacy staggers on towards the financial grave:

    If the Coalition hadn’t stuffed the NBN with its cheapskate copper, it would be fine.
    We get 40.5 Mbps download 7.57 Mbps upload, and have had no interruptions since installation.
    That’s using fibre to the premises, as fortunately the contract was signed before the cheapskate troglodytes came into power and sabotaged the concept because politics.

  41. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    The victim of the Sydney psycho stabber is a tragedy, no question. But to listen to the ABC report last night you would have thought she was a nurse volunteering in a children’s leper colony. Crapping on about her “bright future”.

    presstitute’s sympathy for prostitutes

  42. Geriatric Mayfly

    Once Cap’n Greta is piped aboard how many nautical miles before the little helms person becomes a bigger pain in the arse and is bound to the mast? (Pure Nordic pine it be)

  43. candy

    She died in a way so terrifying – a vicious frenzied knifing. Somewhere there are people who loved her and are devastated and live with that image in their minds.

  44. Roger

    I can only read this as bad news.

    I can only read it as judicial vanity.

  45. Three judges have scrutinised the case and will take their seats behind the bench to announce their decision from 9:30am on Wednesday.

    Roll up, roll up, roll up. Get yer stoning tickets here!
    Advertisements to be shown before and after!
    No interruptions (if your NBN connection can hold up for that long).

  46. Geriatric Mayfly

    Roll up, roll up, roll up. Get yer stoning tickets here!

    Wimminzes get your knitting.

  47. candy

    I can only read this as bad news.

    I fear you are right, C.L. Cardinal Pell is the one who has to pay for the sins of the Catholic Church against children throughout the ages, even though he is innocent How can the legal people involved backtrack now ?

  48. C.L. #3132128, posted on August 15, 2019 at 9:49 am

    Methinks you are correct.

  49. C.L.

    I can only read it as judicial vanity.

    They can still have their televised moment.
    But if they have acquitted, why would they not order his immediate release?

  50. Mater

    That’s using fibre to the premises, as fortunately the contract was signed before the cheapskate troglodytes came into power and sabotaged the concept because politics.

    Did they need to dig up your driveway to get it to the appropriate location on the house? If not, it was only through good fortune.
    Rehabilitation of concrete driveways, gardens, etc is prohibitively expensive and was always a bad idea for existing homes. Costs were always going to spiral out of control, not that they haven’t anyway.

  51. Wednesday live at 9.30

    Scheduled to not to clash with the cricket.

  52. Roger

    They can still have their televised moment.

    I’m referring to more than just that.

  53. Top Ender

    Jeffrey Epstein had a painting of Bill Clinton wearing a blue DRESS and red heels and lounging in the Oval Office inside his Manhattan mansion – visitor reveals bizarre image inside p edophile’s $56m lair

    Daily Mail leader – with pix

  54. 1735099

    Did they need to dig up your driveway to get it to the appropriate location on the house? If not, it was only through good fortune.

    Rubbish.
    No driveways needed to dug up in our area, as the cables were run off existing infrastructure.
    The Coalition were more interested in political symbolism than they were in providing an efficient service at best cost.

    It’s what Fatty 5D* does with anything Obama instituted.

    *Trump was deferred from service in Vietnam 5 times and has a weight problem.

  55. Did they need to dig up your driveway …

    But I wouldn’t mind, IF they could provide a stable connection.
    Myself and millions of FTTP and HFC clients have higher cost, lower speed and intermittent connections.

    Fsck Telstra, fsck Optus, fsck NBN.
    This aint progress.
    Search “whirlpool.net.au NBN intermittent”

  56. C.L.

    Then again …

    Faruk Orman wouldn’t have been the only one smiling when his murder conviction was quashed today — other convicted criminals will be hoping the landmark decision will mean they too will walk free.

    The Melbourne gangland identity has been immediately released from jail because of a “substantial miscarriage of justice” caused by his double-agent lawyer Nicola Gobbo, who was supplying Victoria Police with information while she represented him.

    Victoria’s Court of Appeal ordered Mr Orman be released without delay after a hearing in Melbourne on Friday found he should be acquitted due to “Lawyer X” Ms Gobbo’s actions while she was representing him.

    So the same court did wait for the court proceeding before ordering his immediate release – even though the decision was obviously made earlier than the Friday.
    ———–
    news.com.

  57. custard

    I can’t find any listing of court sitting days that specifically mention Pells appeal decision. Where did the MSM get the tip?

  58. Roger

    The whole process, the length of time taken to write what they no doubt regard as a judgment so great in scope and depth that it will amaze.

    And all in a case where a suburban solicitor – or indeed a Crown prosecutor – could point out the shortcomings.

  59. Dr Faustus

    If the Coalition hadn’t stuffed the NBN with its cheapskate copper, it would be fine.

    Arguably – although it would probably depend on the definition of ‘fine’.
    FTTP/FTTC would have cost an additional $15 – 20 bn on top of the $51 bn budget.

    Everyone can agree that the project has been fucked up from the get go by expert fuckers.

  60. calli

    It’s a dangerous profession way to earn money.

    I wonder if she had a habit, or whether she just liked the easy bucks.

    No point in judging her choices. Attitudes to sexual intercourse have changed. It’s no different to going to the toilet, just a bodily function.

  61. Cassie of Sydney

    candy
    #3132135, posted on August 15, 2019 at 9:56 am
    She died in a way so terrifying – a vicious frenzied knifing. Somewhere there are people who loved her and are devastated and live with that image in their minds.”

    Yes Candy….I am aware of that…..terrifying….and I bet her family are somewhat bewildered to discover how she was making a living. Yes….she was loved and she leaves people who are no doubt devastated. However the young woman unwisely chose to participate in a high risk “profession”…a profession where she could (and did) make a lot of money so that she could travel around the world etc. There are woman on this planet who would choose NOT TO SELL THEIR BODIES but are often forced to for economic and/or social reasons….this young lady was not one of them.

  62. calli

    There is still hope, C.L.

  63. Mater

    Rubbish.
    No driveways needed to dug up in our area, as the cables were run off existing infrastructure.

    Let’s explore this more, Bob.
    What existing infrastructure?
    Copper telecommunication cables to the home are generally direct buried (no conduit): Digging Required.
    Electricity Conduits are generally crammed and there are regulations about mixing such things. Ie. Separation distances, etc to allow for maintenance and repairs and to avoid interference.

    Tell me how they got it to your house wall. I’m genuinely interested.
    If it was an overhead electricity service, they are now illegal in Victoria due to bushfire regulations.

  64. Anthony

    I am not as afraid about the possible outcome of the Pell appeal as some.
    No right-minded justice could find against Pell but most, even, right-minded justices live in a world they can influence but not control. For that reasone they will go through the complete farce according to the letter of the law and, as a result of the continued farce, will keep Pell incarcerated for a little longer than necessary before ‘rightfully’ freeing him.

  65. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    *Trump was deferred from service in Vietnam 5 times and has a weight problem.

    Numbers Ho had a perfectly legitimate, legal alternative to being conscripted. He chose not to exercise that alternative.

  66. Geriatric Mayfly

    If it was an overhead electricity service, they are now illegal in Victoria due to bushfire regulations.

    Oak tree across the road. Cherry picker and chipper arrive last week. Some twigs pruned away from powerline. Same units arrive again this week and a few more twigs removed. Gold plated sprigs.

  67. max

    Fr Kevin Dillon stepping into Fr Bob Maguire’s shoes.

    The go-to prelate when you want one to stick it to the institution and its bishops including the Cardinal.

    He must know that there is absolutely no way the Australian church can abandon the longstanding practice of the universal church. Why don’t these media favourites ever defend the church ?

    ‘We must protect the children.’ This in a state which slaughters how many thousands every year ?

    Of course, Dillon never brings that up.

  68. Roger

    NYT reporting that Epstein’s guards falsified log records to cover the fact that they fell asleep for three hours and didn’t carry out the obligatory checks on the prisoner.

  69. Eyrie

    “She died in a way so terrifying – a vicious frenzied knifing. Somewhere there are people who loved her and are devastated and live with that image in their minds.”

    The wages of sin are death.

  70. Roger

    Why don’t these media favourites ever defend the church ?

    Because they might end up in gaol?

  71. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘the length of time taken to write what they no doubt regard as a judgment so great in scope and depth’

    This judgment will make that flog Oakeshott’s 17-minute speech a couple of years back look like a muffled burp after a mouthful of linguini settles onto half a dozen cans.

  72. JC

    Roger
    #3132165, posted on August 15, 2019 at 10:34 am

    NYT reporting that Epstein’s guards falsified log records to cover the fact that they fell asleep for three hours and didn’t carry out the obligatory checks on the prisoner.

    Lol. Yea, not the best and brightest of the species. I reckon it was a total fuck up and he devised a way to kill himself. I’m off the conspiracy plantation on this one.

    Can you imagine what a zoned out imbecile you would have to be , to be a prison guard. You go to prison for 8 hours a day , 5 days a week if there’s no overtime required. These dudes aren’t NASA scientists of old.

  73. stackja

    NBN is Kev gift that keeps giving.

  74. calli

    The ABC are all over it.

    And if you had any doubt about the accepted narrative, check out the stories in the sidebar.

  75. P

    The Catholic Weekly

    The Victorian Court of Appeal will hand down its decision whether to uphold or overturn Cardinal George Pell’s child sex abuse conviction next Wednesday, 21 August.

    The Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Victoria, Chief Justice Anne Ferguson, will read out a summary of the Court’s conclusions at 9.30am.

    The full judgement will be available later. The proceedings will be live streamed over the internet on the Supreme Court of Victoria’s website with media outlets also able to broadcast the hearing.

  76. Mater

    I reckon it was a total fuck up and he devised a way to kill himself. I’m off the conspiracy plantation on this one.

    So all the ducks lined up for this three hour period? How did he know that the guards watching the CCTV were asleep at this precise moment.
    The Swiss Cheese model happens, but generally not this conveniently.

    The guards were watching one of the worlds most high profile prisoners!

  77. NBN is Kev gift that keeps giving.

    Yer gotta laugh. The rant about NBN and telcos and then my NBN connection dropped out (for about 1 minute).

    There are many ways to inflict punishment.

  78. notafan

    The John Douglas book discusses the high risk nature of the prostitution industry, killers naturally preferring low risk (to them) victims.

    In Ney’s case her profession may have helped him rationalise his decision to kill her as well, very low on the human totem pole. Certainly appears to be a recent convert/revert to the religion of hades, and what better way to atone for a lifetime of sin than a bit of ji had martyrdom? “Bad’ muslims seem to figure prominently in the ji had suicide by cops stakes.

    Not that it makes it her fault she was killed.

    Seems too that she had been on the game for a while.

    Very sick for the the blame all men meme, though of course Dan Jacobin Andrews should be taking a long hard look at himself.

  79. notafan

    The John Douglas book discusses the high risk nature of the prostitution industry, killers naturally preferring low risk (to them) victims.

    In Ney’s case her profession may have helped him rationalise his decision to kill her as well, very low on the human totem pole. Certainly appears to be a recent convert/revert to the religion of hades, and what better way to atone for a lifetime of sin than a bit of ji had martyrdom? “Bad’ mu slims seem to figure prominently in the ji had suicide by cops stakes.

    Not that it makes it her fault she was killed.

    Seems too that she had been on the game for a while.

    Very sick for the the blame all men meme, though of course Dan Jacobin Andrews should be taking a long hard look at himself.

  80. cohenite

    Dr Faustus

    #3132090, posted on August 15, 2019 at 8:58 am

    Scott Morrison is today sitting down at a retreat with PI leaders calling for the Australian coal industry and ‘fossil fuel generation’ to be shut down within 10 years.

    Hard to see how you could have a polite conversation for a whole day on that topic.

    If scomo has any advisors with nous he would print off a few pages from this and nail it to the bludgers’ heads:

    http://www.bom.gov.au/oceanography/projects/spslcmp/data/monthly.shtml

    But he hasn’t, so he won’t.

  81. with media outlets also able to broadcast the hearing

    I guess the negotiations for exclusivity rights broke down.

  82. Lilliana

    calli
    #3132155, posted on August 15, 2019 at 10:19 am
    It’s a dangerous profession way to earn money.
    I wonder if she had a habit, or whether she just liked the easy bucks.
    No point in judging her choices. Attitudes to sexual intercourse have changed. It’s no different to going to the toilet, just a bodily function.

    I wouldn’t go that far. There’s a lot of people around you thought that as well only to find themselves in a world of confusion and hurt. Everyone is different and some people find out that reality is a bit more complicated than life on social media.

    I think the ABC coverage of the lady in question is ridiculous – she was a young woman who wanted lots of quick cash and chose prostitution – end of story.

  83. hzhousewife

    Epstein was a rancid coward who could not face jail time, he would have done himself in eventually no matter what. He’d tried once already.

  84. Mater

    Tell me how they got it to your house wall. I’m genuinely interested.

    Come on, Bob. Regale us with your technical expertise or is your analysis, once again, limited to your personal experience?

    Your thinking and analytical ability are about as deep as Black Ice, but that’s what happens when you limit yourself to regurgitating talking points.

  85. Leigh Lowe

    Testing 1 – 2 – 3.
    No driveway was harmed in the making of this post.

  86. Roger

    If scomo has any advisors with nous he would print off a few pages from this and nail it to the bludgers’ heads:

    Empirical measurements don’t lie.

    Computer models, however…

  87. Knuckle Dragger

    Pulp Fiction was released 25 years ago today.

    Dear God.

    Royale wit’ cheese.

  88. pete m

    Fibre to the premises would have cost double what is being spent now and will be written off.

    IT expert here uses 5g and laughs at whole country being glued to old tech.

    Nbn was always an earthmoving beast where most cost of project lay.

    ——
    Cl don’t despair the judges would look total incompetents if they refuse appeal.

  89. Shy Ted

    you have some interesting turns of phrase ‘Mole. The gash card is a keeper.
    Have I just invented de gashtag for Twatter? – (i).

  90. Mark A

    Mater
    #3132175, posted on August 15, 2019 at 10:43 am

    So all the ducks lined up for this three hour period? How did he know that the guards watching the CCTV were asleep at this precise moment.
    The Swiss Cheese model happens, but generally not this conveniently.

    The guards were watching one of the worlds most high profile prisoners!

    I would be one of the last conspiracy nuts, but on this one I’m almost 90% sure, he didn’t do it or not willingly.
    Absolutely certain drugs of some kind were involved.
    Drugs that never will be found in a autopsy.

    The man wasn’t a sentimental, remorseful, suicidal kind of guy.
    Had he been, he would’ve given the game away the last time he was before the beak.
    Heaps of them like him in a jails all over the place, observe what they are like, not a one killed himself.

    This whole thing is just too convenient for all involved, except him of course.

  91. Leigh Lowe

    Well, we’d have to be talkin’ ’bout one charmin’ motherfuckin’ pig. 
    And speaking of great vengeance and furious anger, what is Spudman onto this morning.

  92. cohenite

    The NBN debacle is only exceeded by the sub purchase for stupidity, venality and betrayal. How appropriate that both decisions should be done by the 2 worst, most narcissistic bastards ever to infect the body politic, krudd and turdball.

  93. Shy Ted

    I tried sex work for a while. Damn near died of starvation.

  94. Roger

    The Pacific Islands Forum is like the Garma Festival or Q & A; leaders shouldn’t dignify it with their presence.

    Send some DFAT officials.

  95. Mater

    I tried sex work for a while. Damn near died of starvation.

    You should have scheduled breaks to eat! 😉

  96. Geriatric Mayfly

    Pell decision next Wednesday live at 9.30.
    Code Blue at the ABC. All hands on deck, no resources to be spared. Two responses to the decision must be prepared by Monday and submitted to the Bias Unit for endorsement. All corrections will be binding.

    What I wrote earlier. Calli’s post and the sidebar indicate that I gave the ABC too much take up time. It was all prepared and ready to run from the get go. And it all looks like it crossed Mizzzz Milligan’s desk without one iota of amendment.
    calli
    #3132173, posted on August 15, 2019 at 10:41 am
    The ABC are all over it.
    And if you had any doubt about the accepted narrative, check out the stories in the sidebar.

  97. notafan

    NYT reporting that Epstein’s guards falsified log records to cover the fact that they fell asleep for three hours and didn’t carry out the obligatory checks on the prisoner.

    I suspect Epstein might have noticed if the guards were missing routine checks.

  98. Shy Ted

    Just remembered it’s an economics blog. ASIC turns a $35m “profit” into a multi-million $ loss. Will heads roll or increased funding and promotions all round? Testing the law my ar*e.

  99. Mater

    NYT reporting that Epstein’s guards falsified log records to cover the fact that they fell asleep for three hours and didn’t carry out the obligatory checks on the prisoner.

    Well I guess they’ll be fired for incompetence…and retire to a Caribbean Island!

  100. Knuckle Dragger

    Tarantino: ‘Lemme ask you a question. When you came driving in here, did you see a sign that said ‘dead ni99er storage?’

    Jackson: ‘Aww, c’mon, man…’

    QT: ‘No no no no. When you came in here, did you see a sign that said ‘dead ni99er storage?’
    SLJ: ‘No.’.

    QT: ‘You know WHY you didn’t see that sign?’
    SLJ ‘ …. …. ‘

    QT: ‘Cause it ain’t THERE, because storing dead ni99ers ain’t my FUCKIN LINE OF BUSINESS!’

    Will never, ever, ever get old.

  101. John Constantine

    The China dominated wool market continues to price slump.

    Interesting that Australian middlemen buyers are now outright saying that it is Trumps aggression towards China that is pushing the price down, and his murder would solve things.

    That China has been allowed to destroy all competition through use of slave labour,government policy and using its rivers as open industrial drains is never mentioned.

    Didn’t even argue with the blokes that told me that their agents had told them that only Trumps assassination can save the world and resume China paying them more money.

    Nobody seems to get that the Tyrant has no long term plans to rely on Australian production, and that as soon as OBOR can provide enough alternate supply, the chicoms will play Australian suppliers off against each other until we slit our own throats.

    Those willing to have a plane flown into the White House to get a ten percent boost in the wool price would happily undercut their neighbor by ten percent to make a sale and have him miss out.

    Comrade Maaaaaates.

  102. Dr Faustus

    High probability that Epstein actually suicided. Given he met daily with counsel, it seems extremely improbable that if his previous attempt (which got him placed on suicide watch) was in reality a near-miss Arkanascide someone would not be loudly proclaiming the fact.

    The relevant question is why the monitoring of such a high-profile, suicidal prisoner was allowed to be fucked up in multiple process failures. Sure the individual guards are likely to be dumb as rocks, but the whole supervision system is not left in their incapable hands.

    It’s Baysian. The outcome probability is the product of the probability of each individual serial event. The likelihood of Epstein’s suspension-hanging suicide passing unnoticed is either vanishingly improbable – or the whole US federal justice/prison system is childishly inept.

  103. old bloke

    I see the enfant terrible has set sail in her hand-carved eco zero-carbon carbon fibre vessel

    I saw on the news on Tuesday night that there were concerns as to how she would make the return voyage as nothing has been planned. She may be marooned in the US for a while.

  104. calli

    A song in anticipation of the Mighty Greta’s arrival.

  105. Mark A

    Dr Faustus
    #3132208, posted on August 15, 2019 at 11:21 am

    High probability that Epstein actually suicided. Given he met daily with counsel, it seems extremely improbable that if his previous attempt (which got him placed on suicide watch) was in reality a near-miss Arkanascide someone would not be loudly proclaiming the fact.

    Unless I’m misreading your post, Why would anyone claim credit for the attempt?
    Bullet wounds to the back of the head to someone and deemed as suicide on a previous occasion, nobody claimed credit.

  106. Roger

    The likelihood of Epstein’s suspension-hanging suicide passing unnoticed is either vanishingly improbable – or the whole US federal justice/prison system is childishly inept.

    Complaints about that particular NYC remand facility are apparently legion.

  107. JC

    Mater

    The evil prick Epstein is one of the most devious, high IQ people the world has seen. If there was a way to knock himself off it would have been him.

  108. stackja

    Epstein had paper bed sheets?

  109. Roger

    Why would anyone claim credit for the attempt?

    Epstein’s lawyers would have loudly proclaimed the fact if the first suicide attempt was in fact an attempt to murder him.

  110. Mater

    Complaints about that particular NYC remand facility are apparently legion.

    So the very fact that he was put there/kept there is the first hole in the cheese.

  111. Infidel Tiger

    The Germans economy has contracted sparking fears of a widespread recession.

    When China steals all your IP and starts making the stuff for themselves, this will happen.

    Stupid Krauts.

  112. Mark A

    Why would a high IQ guy use his intelligence to kill himself, which in the end is relatively easy given time.
    (just suck up enough water from the bowl)
    Instead of surviving and getting out?
    Makes no sense to me.

  113. candy

    Two guards being asleep at the same time seems a bit odd. Unless it was what they regularly did – come into work the night shift and go to sleep. It seems pretty daring given there was an alleged suicide attempt the week before and it was one of the most high profile prisoners, being connected to Clinton and Trump, the prison ever had.

  114. Anthony

    Ferguson in the Oz says that the best result for all involved in the Pell persecution would be a decisive finding from the bench.
    FMD. Wouldn’t the best outcome for all be the release of an innocent man, regardless of the ‘style’ of the finding?

  115. Up The Workers!

    Regarding the Uber-Green school-truant, little Greta Thunberg on the poop-deck of the yacht; luckily she has brought her highly-trained pet dog along with her.

    He carries a supply of hygienic baggies and has been trained to dutifully pick-up after her.

    Can’t have any pollution in our pristine, sensitive, delicate, fragile and precious Atlantic Ocean.

  116. notafan

    NBN are champs

    whinged and complained, damaged plants. broke a water pipe and left me without water overnight (and I still don’t have an NBN connection) because my existing phone cable was too narrow and I refused to let them cut the line .

  117. stackja

    Epstein ‘suicide’ too convenient.

  118. Mater

    The evil prick Epstein is one of the most devious, high IQ people the world has seen. If there was a way to knock himself off it would have been him.

    In his area of expertise.

    Be that as it may, he wasn’t nearly as devious as those who do this for a profession, especially when so much top cover and resourcing is potentially available.

  119. Mark A

    Roger
    #3132215, posted on August 15, 2019 at 11:36 am

    Why would anyone claim credit for the attempt?

    Epstein’s lawyers would have loudly proclaimed the fact if the first suicide attempt was in fact an attempt to murder him.

    And then what?
    A royal commission and triple guards?
    No reasonable prison facility would admit to any such claim.

    We are guessing, nay, speculating at best, if we ever learn the truth, highly unlikely, then I will be vindicated, he was done in or forced to do so under the influence of drugs.
    Leave it at that nothing more to add on my part.

  120. stackja

    What did Epstein really do for income?

  121. Roger

    Instead of surviving and getting out?

    The human trafficking charges had a term of 30 + years attached.

    He was never going to get out.

  122. C.L.

    Any old thing, as long as it’s “decisive” …

    COMMENTARY

    End looms for Pell’s legal purgatory
    For the sanity of all those involved — victims, Pell, the church — the best outcome next week would be a decisive result.

    43 MINUTES AGO By JOHN FERGUSON

    No no, John, you spineless muppet.
    The best outcome is an acquittal. And there are no “victims,” buddy.

  123. JC

    Mater

    You’re not dealing with geniuses here. America has the smartest and also the stupidest people on earth. Sometimes the stupidest are in charge. It may look like a conspiracy because the alternative sounds really stupid, but that’s usually all it is.

  124. notafan

    Instead of surviving and getting out?

    Because getting out was a highly unlikely prospect?>

  125. Roger

    So the very fact that he was put there/kept there is the first hole in the cheese.

    He was arraigned in Manhattan where the US attorney’s NY office is; the remand facility is next door to the court.

    Occam’s razor…

  126. P

    calli
    #3132173, posted on August 15, 2019 at 10:41 am

    The ABC are all over it.
    And if you had any doubt about the accepted narrative, check out the stories in the sidebar.

    I did.

    Some damning excerpts from: George Pell’s full sentencing, as issued by Chief Judge Peter Kidd

    “Your offending encompassed two distinct episodes, over a month apart. In my view, the first episode in the priests’ sacristy involved a brazen and forcible sexual attack upon the two victims. The acts were sexually graphic.
    Both victims were visibly and audibly distressed during this offending. The obvious distress and objections of your victims is relevant to my assessment of the impact of your offending on J and R.
    There is an added layer of degradation and humiliation that each of your victims must have felt in knowing that their abuse had been witnessed by the other.

    Your dialogue with the two victims during the first episode was both purposeful and responsive. You continued to offend, with callous indifference to the victims’ obvious distress and objections.

    I am conscious that the term of imprisonment which I am about to impose upon you carries with it a real, as distinct from theoretical, possibility that you may not live to be released from prison“.

  127. Mark A

    Roger
    #3132227, posted on August 15, 2019 at 11:49 am

    Instead of surviving and getting out?

    The human trafficking charges had a term of 30 + years attached.

    He was never going to get out.

    Sure thing, but there was to be a court case first with a jury an lawyers an such.
    If I recall a football player got off a double murder charge before.
    Yeah O J I believe.

  128. Mater

    You’re not dealing with geniuses here. America has the smartest and also the stupidest people on earth. Sometimes the stupidest are in charge. It may look like a conspiracy because the alternative sounds really stupid, but that’s usually all it is.

    Look JC, I don’t know the truth any more than most, but the stupidity angle gives any perpetrator a plausible story under which it can be filed (and disappeared). Plausible deniability is the game at hand. Suspension of disbelief combined with plausible deniability.

    That stupidity you highlight is what such perpetrators count on. In my experience, whilst such stupidity exists is the wider community, it doesn’t exist in that shadowy world. That he was left in the care of such supposed dullards, speaks ample to me.

  129. Roger

    Sure thing, but there was to be a court case first with a jury an lawyers an such.

    Sure, but that entails its own pressures and there were civil cases pending against him and more on the horizon. His world was rapidly coming apart.

  130. notafan

    Nonsense P

    Kidd had to say rubbish like that when he passed sentence after the jury found Cardinal Pell guilty

    it is meaningless rhetoric and will have no bearing on the appeal’s judges decision.

    but you knew that, what with your legal background and all.

  131. Mater

    I’ll add to my comment by saying that Catallaxy Files was awash with comments indicating that he was going to ‘suicide’ from the moment of his arrest.

    Is the Cat so much smarter than than the US authorities that they would not see this coming and take appropriate precautions…or let all such precautions slide to the point of ridiculousness?

    Pleeeaaassseee. The Cat is full of diverse and intelligent people, but please……

  132. notafan

    Sure, but that entails its own pressures and there were civil cases pending against him and more on the horizon. His world was rapidly coming apart.

    Exactly

    the man had very good reason to be in despair

    he wasn’t on suicide watch for fun, after all.

  133. Dr Faustus

    Unless I’m misreading your post, Why would anyone claim credit for the attempt?

    Mark: Poor, rushed writing on my part.

    The point I was trying to make was that if Epstein’s previous suicide attempt was actually an attempt on his life by some third party, it seems unlikely he would not have passed that on to his counsel. That being the case, after his eventual death one would expect someone from his legal team to remark – “Not sure it’s suicide guys. Mrs Clinton was in here with an Acme Anvil only two weeks ago…

  134. Whalehunt fun

    No no, John, you spineless muppet.
    The best outcome is an acquittal. And there are no “victims,” buddy.

    No the best outcome is acquittal followed by a rain of lawsuits and lawfare against the ABC and their sick acolytes driving them into snivelling penury, homelessness and a slow alcohol and meth death.

    Forget dislike, learn to HATE.

  135. notafan

    cum hoc ergo propter hoc

  136. old bloke

    Complaints about that particular NYC remand facility are apparently legion.

    It does seem odd that high profile prisoners are kept in such a poorly administered prison. El Chapo is another prisoner there, will he disappear down a tunnel again while the guards are having their power naps?

  137. notafan

    another good point Dr Faustus

  138. notafan

    Perhaps universities need to go back to face to face exams and hand written assignments.

    Academics must be a little frustrated when written and verbal communication skills are way out of alignment, I’m sure it was mostly as plain as the nose on their faces.

    and employers must be loving those graduates who cheated their way through uni

  139. JC

    Mater

    Florida man is NOT a myth 🙂

  140. Mater

    You can’t claim incompetence unless you place him in the care of incompetents.

  141. Infidel Tiger

    Government can’t guard a prisoner in their care, but we trust them for healthcare and education.

  142. Mater

    That being the case, after his eventual death one would expect someone from his legal team to remark – “Not sure it’s suicide guys. Mrs Clinton was in here with an Acme Anvil only two weeks ago…

    Does the lawyer have a family?

  143. zyconoclast

    Italy’s Salvini Tells Richard Gere to Take Stranded Migrants to Hollywood on His Jet

    “As the generous millionaire airs his demands about the fate of the Open Arms immigrants, we thank him: he will be able to bring everyone in his private jet to Hollywood and keep them in his villas,” Salvini said in a statement after Gere’s press conference.

  144. johanna

    The prison is apparently a hellhole – but the fact is that prior to this they have only had one suicide in 40 years. Whatever its other shortcomings, they have been pretty good at keeping inmates from topping themselves up till now. It is remarkable that this particular, very high profile, prisoner should have succeeded where presumably many have failed in the past.

    Going back to the unfortunate hooker who was murdered, my comment above was not to suggest that she deserved it. Of course she didn’t.

    What annoyed me was theirABC’s coverage of her, which suggested that ‘sex work’ is like any other job. So, inviting strange men into your place to have sex for money, with no protection, is just like being an accounts clerk, apparently. What’s more, you get to travel the world for months on the earnings.

    Telling this to young women is lying, and lying in a way that significantly threatens their personal safety. I am appalled that a taxpayer funded national media outlet should peddle this nonsense to gormless young women who are already so clueless that they send naked pictures of themselves to this week’s shag on their phones and then wonder how it all went wrong.

    I am not prudish about prostitution, but depicting it as a safe and glamorous career option is utterly irresponsible.

  145. zyconoclast

    THREE teenage girls have fled Morocco after a local schoolteacher said he wanted their “heads cut off” for wearing shorts.

    The girls were volunteering to help build a road in the village of Adar when the teacher, who has since been arrested, made the vile comments.

  146. Mater

    His death may have been by his own hand, or someone else’s. But I don’t for a minute doubt that it was facilitated by someone’s actions…or inactions. Clearly it was. The only doubt is…were they motivated in some way.

  147. thefrollickingmole

    Telling this to young women is lying, and lying in a way that significantly threatens their personal safety.

    Thats pretty well what irritated me a s well.

    The stupid, stupid attempt to legitimize a damaging activity as “just work”.

    On the first Feminian Sandstones we were promised the Fuller Life
    (Which started by loving our neighbour and ended by loving his wife)
    Till our women had no more children and the men lost reason and faith,
    And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “The Wages of Sin is Death.”

  148. calli

    I am not prudish about prostitution, but depicting it as a safe and glamorous career option is utterly irresponsible.

    Yes, Joh. It’s a fact of life.

    Pretty Woman was a fairytale. And a very stupid one.

  149. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The girls were volunteering to help build a road in the village of Adar when the teacher, who has since been arrested, made the vile comments.

    These girls are volunteering to build a road, in the Third World shytehole of a country…

  150. notafan

    If Epstein presented an ongoing threat to ‘global elites’ and was a blackmailer or whatever why would they have waited til he was imprisoned to suicide him?

    He would have fallen off a yacht or some-such a long time ago.

  151. notafan

    These girls are volunteering to build a road

    First world idiocy

    Unskilled girls building a road in a country full of unemployed and underemployed men.

    I bet the local villagers sat and watched them too.

  152. egg_

    Xylem sap
    Xylem sap (pronounced /ˈzaɪləm/) consists primarily of a watery solution of hormones, mineral elements and other nutrients. Transport of sap in xylem is characterized by movement from the roots toward the leaves.[3]

    Over the past century, there has been some controversy regarding the mechanism of xylem sap transport; today, most plant scientists agree that the cohesion-tension theory best explains this process, but multiforce theories that hypothesize several alternative mechanisms have been suggested, including longitudinal cellular and xylem osmotic pressure gradients, axial potential gradients in the vessels, and gel- and gas-bubble-supported interfacial gradients.[4][5]

  153. Percy Popinjay

    Grate. Stock market lemmings on the loose (again).

  154. johanna

    Unskilled girls building a road in a country full of unemployed and underemployed men.

    Yep, for the price of their airfares and keep they could have employed some locals who badly need the money to do it. But, virtue signalling trumps reality, yet again.

  155. egg_

    These girls are volunteering to build a road

    Where’s Grigs on the FIU bridge collapse – some key wymminses involved there, matey.

  156. egg_

    Grate. Stock market lemmings on the loose (again).

    May Huawei inject some latency into their networks.

  157. Mother Lode

    Going back to the unfortunate hooker who was murdered, my comment above was not to suggest that she deserved it. Of course she didn’t.

    It is a dodge to render people unable to make a salient point.

    There is such a thing as putting yourself in harm’s way.

    If a person climbs into a car with a drunk driver and is injured in an accident they must bear some of the blame due to the choice they made – in fact, the drunk drive was probably less aware of the danger than the sober passenger.

    There is an implicit strange zero-sum of culpability behind this. If a person dies or is injured then there is a standard unit of blame to be allotted. If you assign any blame to the victim then you are lessening the blame to the perpetrator – or, in lefty speak, you are blaming the victim and letting the guilty off. And, of course, the two blames are of different types – one is criminal malice, the other of recklessness. They don’t ‘add up’.

    The unfortunate Dunne took on a risky profession. Is there really anyone who does not know this? She didn’t ‘deserve’ to die, but she put herself in a position. Tragic, but comprehensible. This is the world she lived in.

    It is like the ‘slut walks’ that were the thing a year or so ago. There are certain behaviours which will get you in trouble. It is illegal for a woman to be assaulted or roped, but we live in a world where illegal things happen.

    It is not an accident that it was not an office worker he was able to lure to a secluded space and murder.

  158. thefrollickingmole

    If Epstein presented an ongoing threat to ‘global elites’ and was a blackmailer or whatever why would they have waited til he was imprisoned to suicide him?

    Epstein, if he followed the old “Mr Sin” type template, would have let it be known he had a package of stuff to be released if he died in a unexpected way.
    As I speculated before, his death is probably a result of that “package” being found and removed.

    I also wonder, just as speculation, how confidential the secret service blokes need to be if current or ex-pollies they are responsible for are acting shadily?
    Do they have any responsibility to report crimes or are they literally bound to silence?

    I can see pros and cons to either approach.

  159. Percy Popinjay

    Sacré bleu – that portrait of Clinton is truly monstrous.

  160. notafan

    Exactly ML

    Green River Killer is alleged to have killed in excess of 70 prostitutes (and a few runaways) in a fairly small area over many years.

    It is a very very vulnerable profession.
    Gary Ridgway

  161. John Constantine

    Animal Justice MP Andy Meddick has secured a spot on the VicHealth board — and likened meat to cigarettes and asbestos as one of his first acts.

  162. Entropy

    notafan
    #3132268, posted on August 15, 2019 at 12:49 pm
    These girls are volunteering to build a road

    First world idiocy

    Unskilled girls building a road in a country full of unemployed and underemployed men.

    I bet the local villagers sat and watched them too

    I am anazed when acquaintances go off on these fly and build programs, hardly any of them have any Gracie skills and they have pics of themselves doing their bit in their fashionable Lorna Janes in some benighted place. The locals always in the background looking very relaxed with big grins on their faces. “Do the locals help build it?”. “No” is always the answer.

  163. cohenite

    Sacré bleu – that portrait of Clinton is truly monstrous.

    A great real life portrait. His facial varicose veins would now really highlight the pumps.

  164. Their ABC are acting as if it is normal for solo females to open the door to strange men they’ve never met.
    Their ABC are acting as if the circumstances leading to the horrific murder of Miss Dunne could happen to anybody’s daughter, just out of the blue.

    Reminds me of Schapelle Corby’s dad, when it turned out he’d been done for drink driving a dozen or so times, his response to the media was a totally puzzled: “Who hasn’t?” (been done that many time for DD)

  165. johanna

    The unfortunate Dunne took on a risky profession. Is there really anyone who does not know this? She didn’t ‘deserve’ to die, but she put herself in a position.

    Quite, Mother Lode. But there are ways of ameliorating the risk – like working in a well run brothel with security thugs, or even hiring your own. Of course, you make less money that way. Our victim chose the riskiest model short of streetwalking, and paid the price.

    There was no mention of any of this in the article I referenced – just a lot of sanctimonious and dishonest crap about what a tragedy it was for a girl who had hitherto had a brilliant career. It was disgraceful.

  166. John Constantine

    Murtoa, Rupanyup and Minyip have been left without a doctor after the only Tristar doctor servicing the towns left for Melbourne.

    A petition has been sent to local MPs with more than 400 signatures from locals calling for a doctor to service the towns as soon as possible.

    The West Wimmera Health Service operates in the Dunmunkle region.

    CEO Ritchie Dodds says they are working to get a doctor to the towns.

    “Tristar Medical Group had a doctor there up until April this year.

    “We’ve been talking to Tristar and trying to source more doctors through them, to no avail so far. They’re providing a bare bones service, where one of their doctors from Nhill visits the Rupanyup nursing home on a weekly basis.

    Big Australia has made us so rich we can afford to service frontier towns a full three hours drive from a capital city with a once a week visit to their nursing homes.

    Comrades.

  167. egg_

    NTSB Issues 2nd Investigative Update in FIU Bridge Collapse Investigation

    The update states errors made were in the design of the northernmost nodal region of the span where two truss members were connected to the bridge deck. The design errors resulted in an overestimation of the capacity (resistance) of a critical section through the node, and, an apparent underestimation of the demand (load) on that section. The design review was conducted by the Federal Highway Administration’s Office of Bridges and Structures in support of the NTSB’s ongoing investigation. The Federal Highway Administration is a party to the NTSB’s investigation.

  168. Knuckle Dragger

    Mole and Johanna,

    Yes and yes. Dangerous jobs sometimes have outcomes directly related to that danger, and like it or not solo prostitution is one of them.

    It’s like cops. Every time one gets belted these days some wanker gets in front of the meeja and says ‘These people are not punching bags, they expect to be safe at work’ etc etc.

    If cops are actually doing their job they will be exposed to all sorts of danger, and rightly so because they’re there to stop Mr and Mrs Punter being exposed to it. And when it happens they shouldn’t run screaming to be protected themselves by a bunch of pimply 16 year olds at Maccas.

    Cops should expect to be punched. The issue is, up until quite recently (with certain exceptions) they don’t return the favour to the point where the crook/s are remanded in custody from their hospital bed.*

    Any copper that expects to go their career uninjured is either a malingerer, lazy or destined for the top job.

    In any event, the Sydney lass was not an accountant or receptionist. What sort of ‘bright future’ did she have? Being a better prostitute?

    *Hot dog salesmen see all kinds of things.

  169. Percy Popinjay

    Pulp Fiction was released 25 years ago today.

    To celebrate, I’m off to see “Once upon a time in Hollyweird” tomorrow evening.

  170. egg_

    Rae
    #2663844, posted on March 18, 2018 at 12:08 pm
    A Female-Led Construction Company Built The Florida Bridge That Collapsed

    I’d be surprised if she was responsible for the incorrect tensioning of the supporting cables in situ, that almost certainly caused the cracks referred to in the male engineers voicemail and led to the collapse of the bridge. In fact I’d put money on that entire chain of events involving men only.

    The “stay cables”* were decorative, fwit.
    And were in fact rods, if you cared to read the posted Engineering Plans, Numpty.

  171. Mater

    Big Australia has made us so rich we can afford to service frontier towns a full three hours drive from a capital city with a once a week visit to their nursing homes.

    I do sometimes question whether the barrier to entry for Australian medical students has been raised too high.
    I’m not sure that it’s necessary to exclude a good student based on the fact that he/she could only manage 95% on a book review of “Chant of Jimmie Blacksmith” or “Follow the Rabbit-Proof Fence”. I fear we may be doing ourselves a disservice and excluding kids who could well service this shortfall.

    We ask an awful lot of our own, but how good were many of the overseas doctors who we now import.

  172. Knuckle Dragger

    Potentially, crook punters in Rup and Minyip could get to a quack in Warracknabeal, a 20 minute run. Murtoa’s a bit further with much worse roads though.

    Mind you, if you’re crook enough to need a doctor it’s suboptimal to drive half an hour to do it over crumbling bitumen chewed up by loaded grain trucks.

  173. Some History

    VicHealth is one of the Vic government’s totalitarian arms. Introducing vegan Andy Meddick, a medic, and his transgender son. The little Hipler, just another moral fake, will be right at home at VicHealth.

    https://www.standard.net.au/story/6322534/son-inspires-mps-support-for-transgender-legislation/

  174. thefrollickingmole

    Knuckle Dragger

    Bit like working underground.
    It has “higher risk than desk work” built into the job.

    My copper mate fits your description, shoulder reconstruction, missing finger etc, all as part of “normal” work.

  175. Zyconoclast

    Today is The Feast of the Assumption –

    Stained glass window of the Assumption inside St Mary’s Cathedral Sydney

    Too bad they promote satanism and degeneracy.

  176. notafan

    They’re providing a bare bones service, where one of their doctors from Nhill visits the Rupanyup nursing home on a weekly basis.

    I wonder if that is on the weekend/in the evening when the taxpayer gets to fork out much extra money.

  177. notafan

    Too bad they promote satanism and degeneracy.

    Catholicism in general or St Mary’s in particular

  178. Some History

    Apologies. Meddick is not a medic.

  179. notafan

    Total populations of those towns is around 1900 plus I supposed local farming families.

    What is the minimum pool of potential patients needed to make it worthwhile to provide GP services?

  180. John Constantine

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-03/foreign-trained-rural-doctors-facing-crackdown-despite-shortage/10066748

    International doctors who have worked in regional areas for many years are being deemed incompetent and deregistered amid a Medical Board of Australia (MBA) crackdown.
    Key points

    Four out of five overseas doctors failing AMB’s clinical exam as grace period ends
    Questions raised as to quality of practice in rural and regional areas over last decade
    Deregistration sparks fears for hundreds of patients
    Rural areas already battling shortage of medical professionals

    Four out of five overseas doctors, some of whom have worked in small towns for as many as 10 years, are failing a clinical exam set by the MBA designed to prove they meet national standards.

    Historically overseas doctors were not required to sit any local exams before they were placed in ‘areas of need’ across rural Australia, where more than 3000 foreign doctors are currently practising.

    “Ideally all doctors who worked in Australia would have the full qualifications before they started work, but we had a need,” MBA chair Dr Joanna Flynn AM said.

    Big Australia has made us so rich we can afford to poach medicos from the third world and send them out unsupported to make hourly life and death decisions among the rednecks of the frontier.

  181. Some History

    He wants the Parliament to set an example in its dining rooms and cafes by adopting his meat-free plan.
    Mr Meddick, who is vegan, cited a recent Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change report as evidence that food production needs to change for the good of the planet.
    Add to shortlist
    “This is a common-sense and reasonable measure,” he said.
    “As leaders of the state, members of Parliament should be setting an example and acting on climate science before it is too late.”
    He said less reliance on meat was one of the most effective ways to combat the environmental damage humans are inflicting on the planet.

    RTWT

    https://www.theage.com.au/politics/victoria/vegan-mp-wants-parliament-s-restaurants-to-go-meat-free-on-mondays-20190814-p52gxk.html

  182. notafan

    A pool of two thousand should be plenty to make it worthwhile, though if instead, you can churn through 80 a day at a city bulk bill well obviously you would.

  183. cohenite

    Apologies. Meddick is not a medic.

    Neither is his sprog. These people are weird. I don’t mind people who are weird I just don’t like them generating policy.

  184. Zyconoclast

    Too bad they promote satanism and degeneracy.

    Catholicism in general or St Mary’s in particular

    St Mary’s.
    I posted this before
    https://www.stmaryscathedral.org.au/music/concert-news-events/

    Look at the item for 16 October and then search online for images and lyrics for the band Cradle of Filth

  185. Herodotus

    Six police shot in Philadelphia.
    Tony Abbott and Donald Trump to blame.

  186. notafan

    I do sometimes question whether the barrier to entry for Australian medical students has been raised too high.

    IIRC there was a less onerous path to medicine for those who undertook to work in rural areas

    still not getting enough students through apparently

    why don’t universities made more places available? an atar of 97 isn’t that bad!

    Especially when Charles Darwin will take indigenous students with scores of 85.

    atars for medicine

  187. Rafiki redux

    Here you go JC. “Americans can be very smart at being very stupid”. Feel free to employ it when appropriate. I heard it first when a Micronesean woman used to describe USA nuclear tests near the Marshall Islands.

  188. notafan

    Shame on St Mary’s

    They should have a mass of reparation

  189. max

    Percy Popinjay
    #3132276, posted on August 15, 2019 at 1:02 pm
    Sacré bleu – that portrait of Clinton is truly monstrous.

    To have it on his wall where it could be seen by everyone tells you his opinion of Clinton.

    If it had been Trump the media would never let him off the hook.

  190. Nob

    Some history:
    You just know that this will end up as higher taxes on meat when it becomes obvious that the public aren’t obeying.

  191. Percy Popinjay

    You just know that this will end up as higher taxes on meat when it becomes obvious that the public aren’t obeying.

    Or “policy induced” shortages of the said comestible.

  192. Some History

    Italy’s Salvini Tells Richard Gere to Take Stranded Migrants to Hollywood on His Jet… if that’s OK with Gretel.

    A Hollywood state of mind.

    https://imgur.com/ZeH4Pe3

  193. Herodotus

    John Ferguson in the Oz is vying for the Van Oscillator award with his latest on the Pell case.
    1. The victim told a compelling story.
    2. There are valid questions concerning the correctness of the conviction.
    3. It remains doubtful that he will walk free next wednesday.

  194. cohenite

    That buck toothed bint from new zealandistan is full of crap; they use less than 1% wind and solar; their renewables are hydro, geothermal and wood.

  195. Cassie of Sydney

    “Whalehunt fun
    #3132244, posted on August 15, 2019 at 12:14 pm
    No no, John, you spineless muppet.
    The best outcome is an acquittal. And there are no “victims,” buddy.

    No the best outcome is acquittal followed by a rain of lawsuits and lawfare against the ABC and their sick acolytes driving them into snivelling penury, homelessness and a slow alcohol and meth death.

    Forget dislike, learn to HATE.”

    Yep…and another thing that came out of last week’s CPAC conference when talking to various people was that we on the right need to…

    ENJOY being HATED.

  196. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Extinction Rebellion Perth climate change protest
    Staff reportersPerthNow
    August 15, 2019 11:39AM
    Topics
    WA News
    Environment

    11.40am

    Donning purple sashes and baskets of lavender Janet Bailey and Anneke de Rooij said their role in the Extinction Rebellion was to calm down people who got too emotional.

    “I’m out here today to get try to get the government to acknowledge the seriousness of the climate change situation,” Ms Bailey said.

    “The science is very clear that we are heading for a very bad time if we don’t do something immediately.”

    Ms de Rooij said the stand at Parliament felt like “a last resort” for her.

    “[We’re] making a declaration of rebellion because, as it stands, the government is not representing us and not looking after us as citizens of Australia.”

    Ms de Rooij said the last election was the turning point for her.

    “There reached point around the last election where I felt like voting wasn’t working,” she said.

    “Things I thought was helping like living a sustainable lifestyle really was the smallest drop in the ocean of making a difference.”

    O.K. West Aussie Cats, what about a suitable “welcome to country?” Tarring and feathering.

  197. Mater

    why don’t universities made more places available? an atar of 97 isn’t that bad!

    In my opinion, dropping English as the only prerequisite subject for Year 12 would go a long way to fixing it. In my experience people tend to be either STEM oriented or Humanities. The Humanities kids can drop the STEM subjects and focus on their strengths for Year 12. The STEM kids are forced to drag a sea anchor.

    I know Dislexic kids who are bloody brilliant. Good at English but clearly not outstanding. Memories like trap doors, super STEM students and extremely lateral thinkers. But they’ll never be able to achieve the ATAR required for medicine. Unbelievable waste and extremely small thinking. Think Einstein, Leonardo Divinci, etc.

  198. None

    The New Daily, one of the hate Pell rags now trying to push the ex Hun-bitchface book so she can make some money out of fake sex abuse claims, has a problem with the English language. It claims the Sydney stabber “was domestically violent”.
    https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/state/nsw/2019/08/15/sydney-stabbing-michaela-dunn/
    Can you be “industrially violent” too?

    And in their hurry to legitimise prostitution they let slip that Michaela Dunn (who I don’t think was very pretty which may go some way to explaining why she ended up on the game) had not told her parents – who had forked out for a private school – that she was whoring. Imagine that families’ anguish. Finding out that your daughter’s a liar, dead and a whore.

  199. Cassie of Sydney

    “None
    #3132330, posted on August 15, 2019 at 1:58 pm

    And in their hurry to legitimise prostitution they let slip that Michaela Dunn (who I don’t think was very pretty which may go some way to explaining why she ended up on the game) had not told her parents – who had forked out for a private school – that she was whoring. Imagine that families’ anguish. Finding out that your daughter’s a liar, dead and a whore.”

    Well said None.

  200. None

    I’m sorry you can be as lateral and as brilliant as you like but if you are unable to communicate, your brilliance is next to useless. English should be compulsory till year 12 and at least an average to above average score should be mandatory for professions such as medicine. Imagine going to a doctor who can’t articulate what’s wrong with you or so functionally illiterate s/he can’t give clear instructions to medical staff.

  201. Some History

    “This is a common-sense and reasonable measure,” he [Meddick] said.

    Just remember: “All we want is smoking bans on short haul flights. What’s so unreasonable about that?”

  202. max

    Conviction(s)
    Sexual penetration of a child under 16 years (1 charge)
    Indecent act with or in the presence of a child under 16 years (4 charges)

    Be interesting if they dismiss the second charge and uphold the first. That would surely cast doubt on the reliability of the complainant.

  203. Geriatric Mayfly

    the cohesion-tension theory best explains this process, but multiforce theories that hypothesize several alternative mechanisms have been suggested, including longitudinal cellular and xylem osmotic pressure gradients, axial potential gradients in the vessels, and gel- and gas-bubble-supported interfacial gradients.[4][5]

    Agile and innovative engineers should work on this to lift that water from the Tumut river basin, into that of the upper Murrumbidgee in order to fill the big battery.

  204. notafan

    “[We’re] making a declaration of rebellion because, as it stands, the government is not representing us and not looking after us as citizens of Australia.”

    I’m pretty sure in a democracy the teeny tiny minority don’t get to control the government

    you had your chance at the ballot box , now naff off

  205. notafan

    Be interesting if they dismiss the second charge and uphold the first. That would surely cast doubt on the reliability of the complainant.

    That would be an illogical result.

    Compelling as that Beech creature, I bet

  206. dover_beach

    1. The victim told a compelling story.

    They said the same thing about the now convicted liar and false witness, Carl Beech.

  207. Cassie of Sydney

    “1. The victim told a compelling story.”

    More emotive guff from the usual suspects in the media.

    Isn’t it funny how Pell’s defense is never described as “compelling” when in reality his defense is utterly compelling.

  208. notafan

    Can’t agree Mater

    medicine is all about communication

    people can get high English scores and still be dud communicators which is why there is UCAT as well.

    It ought to be very simple to create forty or fifty extra places at universities that offer medicine (and follow up internships) but it doesn’t seem to be happening.

    There are supposed to be unlimited university places in Australia, except for the ones where there is actual demand for graduates. of course.

    Also wonder if the high percentage of female doctors is playing a part in the shortage at the coal face

    Have heard/read? a much bigger percentage of women do not work full time after they graduate.

  209. Mater

    I’m sorry you can be as lateral and as brilliant as you like but if you are unable to communicate, your brilliance is next to useless.

    So kids are unable to communicate by Year 10? Not mention the natural improvement as they mature and go through university. Have you seen what they do in English in Year 12 nowadays? Adds nothing! Dyslexia slows them down and might mean they miss a full stop in an essay, not lobotomise them. Exam conditions are unsuited for them but they can end up better writers than normal kids (Agatha Christie), just not under our current system.

    English should be compulsory till year 12 and at least an average to above average score should be mandatory for professions such as medicine. Imagine going to a doctor who can’t articulate what’s wrong with you or so functionally illiterate s/he can’t give clear instructions to medical staff.

    Who’s talking about functionally illiterate? Not achieving 99% in English hardly makes you that.
    What’s more important, a refined knowledge of Shakespeare or calculating dosage? Why not make high level calculus as a prerequisite, also?

    Imagine a Dyslexic doctor who has memorised every medical text book he has read. I don’t need to, I know one. He saved my life with that knowledge. I’m lucky he was able to weasel his way through.

  210. Farmer Gez

    “1. The victim told a compelling story.”

    So did Orson Welles.

    There was no Martian invasion and no abuse in the sacristy.

  211. John Constantine

    There is an excess of trained doctors coming out of Australia’s unis.

    Big Australia has made us such a wealthy country though, that new doctors won’t leave the big city for the wastelands of old rural australia.

  212. Mater

    medicine is all about communication

    Even if not doing Year 12 made you a bad communicator, that’s crap.

    I’ll take knowledge, accuracy and a steady hand any day.
    Most of my doctors appear the have autism and are some of the worst communicators I have ever experienced, but they do a hell of a job.

  213. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    The hardline White House official who slammed the famed poem inscribed on the Statue of Liberty now claims the verse was only supposed to welcome white immigrants.

    Ken Cuccinelli, the acting Immigration and Citizenship Services boss, told CNN that the “give me your poor, your tired” no longer makes sense in today’s world where many immigrants and refugees are non-white people from developing nations.

    “Of course that poem was referring back to people coming from Europe,” Cuccinelli told Erin Burnett Tuesday.

  214. notafan

    I didn’t say it was only about communication

  215. notafan

    And I thought the discussion was around GPs

    not specialists who are a horse of a different colour

  216. speedbox

    notafan
    #3132250, posted on August 15, 2019 at 12:22 pm

    In the last few years, in particular, I have had dealings with recent graduates who supposedly held a ‘Masters’ in this or that subject. Yet, their written reports on a subject have been littered with spelling and grammatical errors and in one memorable incident, argued for one specific course of action in the middle of the report and an entirely different course in the recommendation. On more than one occasion, I have sent the report back to the writer with a terse note that their report is unclear and I cannot determine what the writer is actually trying to say.

    I cannot possibly be alone in my experiences and have wondered ‘how’ these people passed through University. Did the lecturers even read the assignments?

  217. notafan

    Interesting Speedbox

    any link to the cheating at uni article posted earlier by Zyco?

  218. Mater

    I didn’t say it was only about communication

    “medicine is all about communication.”

    And I thought the discussion was around GPs
    not specialists who are a horse of a different colour

    Same system. Same waste of talent.

  219. notafan

    Same system. Same waste of talent.

    There are literally thousands of students who just miss out on medicine because of the overall high ATARs required, who are likely just as likely to be competent medics as dyslexics

    to throw out English as a prerequisite will not just made it easier for dyslexics but for anyone who struggles. for any reason, with written English

    I just can’t see any problem with that that.

  220. JC

    appears you are correct JC

    I’m always correct, Fan. I can’t recall a time I wasn’t.

  221. John Constantine

    Young tiger doctors don’t go bush because it hurts their chances of marrying well.

    Once they marry well, tiger doctors don’t go bush because their partners can’t get good jobs and network properly for promotion.

    If their partner does get a good job, tiger mother doctors still don’t go bush because it holds their kids back from networking with the right sort of families.

    Basically Australia is as urbanised as any country on earth, we have deliberately mass imported urbanised demographics and there is no reason for them to leave the urban environment they were imported to fill up for frontier backwaters with lousy growth in property markets.

  222. Six police shot in Philadelphia.
    Tony Abbott and Donald Trump to blame.

    Well at least that’s George Bush & John Howard off the hook for that one then.

  223. johanna

    Re the testing of rural overseas trained doctors who have been practising for years – I wonder how many local graduates who left medical school ten years ago could pass the test? It’s just medical politics, red in tooth and claw, at work again.

    And yes, it is ludicrous that the best examinees in the country become GPs. What a waste of talent. 90% of a GP’s work is routine and boring for anyone with a lively mind. Mine takes my blood pressure and extends my prescriptions every three months. That’s it. A nurse could easily do it. I bet I am not the only one. Add in colds/flu/bronchitis – must be a big proportion in winter – again, an experienced nurse could do it in his or her sleep.

    Credentialism is expensive and inefficient, but preservation of demarcation and accreditation by the medical ‘profession’ makes the CFMEWU look like a bunch of milquetoasts.

  224. cohenite

    I’m always correct, Fan. I can’t recall a time I wasn’t.

    Dementia and memory loss is a bitch.

  225. JC

    Cronkite,

    Have you figured out if the stabbing lunatic was ISIS yet? You really are an idiot at times.

  226. Eyrie

    “In my opinion, dropping English as the only prerequisite subject for Year 12 would go a long way to fixing it.”
    Concentrate on grammar, spelling, reading comprehension, communication, report writing and leave off the friggin Shakespeare and poetry and critiquing books that no 17 year old boy in his right mind would choose to read. My leaving text was Henry Handel Richardson’s “The Getting of Wisdom” FFS. Managed a good pass without reading it as I found it unreadable.
    Encourage reading for pleasure but it doesn’t matter that it isn’t “great literature”. I am forever grateful to Messrs Heinlein, Clarke, Anderson etc. and much earlier, Capt.W.E. Johns.

  227. egg_

    “1. The victim told a compelling story.”

    So did Orson Welles.

    Here’s their tinfoil hat.

  228. cohenite

    You really are an idiot at times.

    Yeah I know, but I strive to be as consistent as you.

  229. Siltstone

    Speedbox
    On more than one occasion, I have sent the report back to the writer with a terse note that their report is unclear and I cannot determine what the writer is actually trying to say. I cannot possibly be alone in my experiences and have wondered ‘how’ these people passed through University. Did the lecturers even read the assignments?

    You are not alone! As part of my business I fix up reports produced by others. Most rot comes from those born since mid-80’s (science, enginering or arts, does no matter). I could get paid for this until I die (which may come quicker than I’d like given the rubbish I have to read sometimes).

  230. egg_

    Sacré bleu – that portrait of Clinton is truly monstrous.

    A great real life portrait. His facial varicose veins would now really highlight the pumps.

    Is he morphing into Ellen DeGeneres?
    /Men who look like old lesbians

  231. cohenite

    Apparently gore is one of the world’s leading investors in meat replacement products.

  232. JC

    vr

    That’s an interesting take by Myron Scholes. The markets look like discounting recession in the US. If he’s right the market has been overly spooked by these fears, the upside could end up being a time for wearing a white robe with palms extended outward. I still think my prediction of a few days ago – the probability of recession is about 60% is about right, so I’m obviously not on the recession boosting side. But FMD things are really tense.

    I think Myron is a veteran from Long Term Capital, no? 🙂

    The 3X leveraged bull side for bank stocks looks like a really interesting play on the Myron side of the market. Back in May this fucker was trading at 70 bucks a share while it’s now holding barely just above 50. That’s the what to trade if one thinks the market is wrong because the upside on bank stocks would be furious. Fast and furious 🙂

  233. Mater

    There are literally thousands of students who just miss out on medicine because of the overall high ATARs required, who are likely just as likely to be competent medics as dyslexics

    Couple of points.

    First. English marking is far too subjective for my liking. It’s not necessarily about how you communicate or how you write, more about what you write. Think about having Bob mark your essay which discusses the social issues incorporated in ‘The Rabbit Proof Fence”! No, no, no. F-ck no!

    Second. Even the playing field and make Advanced Maths a prerequisite, also. I would strongly argue that maths is at least as important for the medical profession, and it’s a far more objective mark.

    Three. I’m not advocating only for Dyslexics, I’m using them as an example. The English component disadvantages (roughly) half the kids based on their natural inclinations, to a more or less degree.

  234. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Physicist advances a radical theory of gravity
    Erik Verlinde has been compared to Einstein for completely rethinking the nature of gravity.
    The Dutch physicist Erik Verlinde’s hypothesis describes gravity as an “emergent” force not fundamental.
    The scientist thinks his ideas describe the universe better than existing models, without resorting to “dark matter”.

  235. JC

    Apparently gore is one of the world’s leading investors in meat replacement products.

    Excellent stock pick then. He’s made a fortune.

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