Why doesn’t the left prefer the truth to outright falsehood since the lies will create major harm in all our lives, even their own?

In case you didn’t see it. The media plus all of their readers and viewers prefer lies to truth. Why that is cannot be explained since the lies will make their lives far, far worse, while the truth will allow us to get on with our lives without ruining our futures.

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63 Responses to Why doesn’t the left prefer the truth to outright falsehood since the lies will create major harm in all our lives, even their own?

  1. stackja

    They love big brother?

  2. jupes

    Busted!

    Let’s hope The Donald gets onto this bullshit quick smart.

  3. Mark A

    Why doesn’t the left prefer the truth to outright falsehood

    You have to ask?
    You can see it here every day, ideology beats facts any time.

  4. Tom

    As Tony Heller says, the left is changing the past to control the future. That includes trashing science so “science” can be manipulated.

    It’s not just that the left “prefers the truth to outright falsehood” as some sort of parlor game. Creation of the CAGW scam has created a global $US2 trillion per annum industry (50% bigger than the Australian economy), which allows the left to reward hundreds of thousands of its followers with a fake income.

    More on the faking of the climate science in NOAA’s July 2019 “data” here.

    What a time to be alive.

  5. miltonf

    I also think that people such Julie Bishop and the Prince of Wales see themselves as part of the nomenklatura who will still be able to enjoy the benefits of industrial civilisation. Only the riff raff will need to make sacrifices.

  6. Herodotus

    Strangely, this “hottest evah” series of reports hasn’t been corrected by the media that touts itself as keeping the bastards honest, or fact checking, or holding governments and anyone they don’t like to account!

  7. Herodotus

    Yes, as per Milton above, I heard the BBC the other night offering an idea they had picked up from somewhere about a new method of propelling jets! It involved using atmospheric gases instead of fossil fuels!
    A sure sign of panic among the alarmists that their jetting about was at present indefensible and bad PR.
    Bring on the UniCOrn Drive System.

  8. Win

    Unto thine own self be true then shall follow as night the day truth unto all things. Oh for a modern day Shakespeare to provide prospective in half a dozen words.

  9. miltonf

    In the Australian context it can summed up as ‘bogans shouldn’t have nice things’. Nice things are only for people who went to Shore or Knox.

  10. It’d be interesting to find out what causes this seeming insanity and refusal to even consider the alternative. In our little hamlet, there are many warming worriers than no matter how mild our summers or freezing cold our winters, they firmly believe that the planet is heating to hell.

  11. And would anyone have expected this: https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/08/17/delingpole-donald-batman-trump-michael-joker-moore-join-forces-fake-energy-renewables/:

    Now the President has an ally so unlikely it’s as if Batman teamed up with the Joker. No really. Guess which corpulent fake ordinary Joe millionaire filmmaker has now produced a new documentary, sticking the boot into the renewable energy scam…

    Yes, Michael Moore is the producer of Planet of the Humans, a documentary which shows the renewables industry is just as vulnerable to attack from the left as it is from the right.

    Planet of the Humans isn’t yet available on commercial release. But this article gives a good idea of the content:

    “Forget all you have heard about how “Renewable Energy” is our salvation. It is all a myth that is very lucrative for some. Feel-good stuff like electric cars, etc. Such vehicles are actually powered by coal, natural gas… or dead salmon in the Northwest”

  12. Nighthawk The Elder

    Herodotus
    #3134255, posted on August 18, 2019 at 6:47 am
    Yes, as per Milton above, I heard the BBC the other night offering an idea they had picked up from somewhere about a new method of propelling jets! It involved using atmospheric gases instead of fossil fuels!

    I believe the Montgolfier brothers first had a crack at using atmospheric gases for flight way back in the 1780’s.

    First windmills, and now this. As they say, what was old is new again. Before you know it, caves will be back in fashion again. (Those greens are way ahead of their time don’t you know).

  13. Crossie

    jupes
    #3134229, posted on August 18, 2019 at 3:41 am
    Busted!

    Let’s hope The Donald gets onto this bullshit quick smart.

    He has to get re-elected to tackle fake science. At the moment he is busy fighting fake news whose main purpose seems to be to stop his re-election rather than inform the population. He will also need both the House and Senate in his second term to be able to make any headway therefore fake news are a bigger issue.

  14. And this perhaps goes part way to explaining why people believe this BS:

  15. Crossie

    Bring on the UniCOrn Drive System.

    We are laughing about this now but we laughed about temperature records standing firm. I can easily imagine all sorts of fake claims being put about the new source of energy while still using fossil fuels to fly, but only for the important people you understand.

    Freedom of movement, expression, thought is unacceptable to the new masters of the universe. Money seems not to be enough for them when everyone else has it. Their own freedom isn’t enough when everyone else is just as free. How can the clever people then show their superiority? By having power over others, by deciding how much of freedoms everyone else should have.

  16. Tel

    Yes, as per Milton above, I heard the BBC the other night offering an idea they had picked up from somewhere about a new method of propelling jets! It involved using atmospheric gases instead of fossil fuels!

    It works, but a tiny bit tricky … the Russians have been using it … with a few glitches. The idea is to take cold atmospheric gas in the front and launch superheated high velocity gas out the back … obviously you need a nuclear reactor in the middle there.

    Since the gas flow cools the reactor, there’s a minimum amount of flow required once the reactor gets started … which makes landing the thing kind of sketchy. If you shut down the reactor before landing then the thrust is gone, but if you land the thing first then the cooling is gone … bit of a balancing act.

    There’s also some question mark over the environmental regulations pertaining to leaving long plumes of radioactive exhaust gas around the place. That’s going to be more of a problem if they decide to fly it outside Russia … and I guess we all hope that never happens!

  17. Robber Baron

    Great video. Awesome naration by Norm Macdonald.

  18. mem

    It is a bit like accepting domestic violence.To accept it you have to dismiss the reality. Once you dismiss the reality life becomes much easier to face. It doesn’t matter how many times your head is banged against the door, you just dismiss it. To think about it rationally would expose your weakness. And where to then? Fear, anxiety, because your reality construct will fall apart.

  19. Farmer Gez

    You’ll note the ‘well above average’ includes all of Victoria.
    Nobody here in the country would say July was mild, even our local homogenised BoM weather station shows we are just above average.
    People who spend their lives moving from one climate controlled space to the next have lost all perception of actual atmospheric temperature. I heard a group of thirty something young mummies at a cafe in Melbourne, declare “it’s been so mild this winter.” To them it is.

  20. Crossie

    I heard a group of thirty something young mummies at a cafe in Melbourne, declare “it’s been so mild this winter.” To them it is.

    And this is where all of our problems begin, subjectivity of the influencers ie those with the loudest social media megaphone. They tend to live in salubrious locations that are not an indicator of what is happening everywhere else.

    We get frosts where I live in Sydney’s outer west and each winter I count the number of frost days. So far it has been 11 frosty mornings which is up on last year even though daytime temps have been slightly warmer. Nobody seems to be interested in working out the contradictions however, if everything is due to global warming then nothing is. Junk science.

  21. sfw

    I live in NE Vic, we have had a rather mild winter overall. Not as many frosts and slightly drier than normal. The coldest it got was around -6 some mornings but not as many as recent years. It certainly isn’t evidence of AGW as records show we are around average in temps and rainfall. I just think the past couple of winters have been colder than average.

  22. Phill

    To quote Theodore Dalrymple

    “In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is…in some small way to become evil oneself. One’s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.”

  23. a happy little debunker

    I saw a succinct climate change argument over at The Guardian today.

    Two words for the deniers/disbelievers/business as usuals: Greta Thunberg

    Alas, I was unable to retort as that platform chooses not to allow my diverse commentary.

    But, if they chose to hear it, my response would be along these lines.

    Greta is an unpublished, un-peer reviewed, child climate propagandist and is claimed to be able to see an invisible, odourless gas that makes up .04% of our entire atmosphere.
    She is a child that has lived her entire life in a home-schooled bubble of her ‘environmentally aware’ parents making.
    She faces many challenges in her life – being a false prophet, promoted and patronised by progressives, should not be one of them.

    I prefer my science and scientists to be tested.

  24. Lee

    “If you want to anger a conservative, tell him a lie.
    If you want to anger a progressive, tell him the truth.”

  25. max

    Leftist believe in power
    Leftist believe they know what is problem and solution to that.
    Leftist believe they are smart and educated and they know what is good for us deplorables.
    The Left is always interfering with our lives. They want to push us around. They want to get Congress to authorize the creation of a new bureaucracy, filled with people who wear badges and guns, and who then interfere in our lives.
    It desperately hopes to win because it believes that every crisis should be followed by federal legislation.

  26. pbw

    Tel and Phil,

    Theodore, welcome as he may be, is late to the game. Solzhenitsyn was onto it, writing Live Not By Lies on the eve of his exile in 1974, and in 1978 Vaclav Havel wrote The Power of the Powerless, which was a tonic to the Solidarity movement.

  27. John A

    Win #3134256, posted on August 18, 2019, at 6:48 am

    Unto thine own self be true then shall follow as night the day truth unto all things. Oh for a modern day Shakespeare to provide prospective in half a dozen words.

    Biblically speaking:
    John 3:19 New American Standard Bible (NASB)

    This is the judgment, that the Light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the Light, for their deeds were evil.

  28. I_am_not_a_robot

    Another inconvenient truth is that the heat extremes of ’30s in US had nothing whatsoever to do with human CO2 emissions.

  29. Entropy

    That video would do better if in its comparisons it was using the same data sources between global maps of land and land&sea. Because that would explain a lot of the differences.

  30. GoWest

    Snake oil salesmen have been using this technique forever. first you scare the hell out of the target and then you offer them the solution – the target will pay you and thank you for that solution. Simple really.

    Give up on changing them – they already have a huge number of useful idiots paying them. They only way to unmask them is to show their children the lies and watch the fun. That’s happened forever as well.

  31. Chris M

    The media plus all of their readers

    I’m too terrified of global warming, asteroids, recessions and coming Trump wars they told me about to ever subscribe to media. We’re doomed right.

  32. I_am_not_a_robot

    Berkeley (California) Earth Surface Temperature is a global surface temperature series (BEST) ostensibly ‘with the goal of addressing the major concerns from outside the scientific community regarding global warming and the instrumental temperature record’ (Wiki) but in effect they are simply an ancillary to the NASA and HadCRUT surface series.
    They claim particularly to examine the Urban Heat Island Effect (UHIE) but found it “did not bias the results obtained from these earlier studies [NASA + HadCRUT]”.
    Victoria has a few unusually long-term temperature records outside Melbourne including Cape Otway Lighthouse, Cape Schanck Lighthouse, Wilson’s Promontory Lighthouse also Omeo, all going back to the latter 19th century.
    In each case they would be near-ideal places to measure the unadulterated, uncontaminated by UHIE, long-term temperature trend and in each case the Berkeley people, by applying their ‘regional expectation’ filter have been able to massage negative or no-net-change long-term trends into distinctly positive T trends.

  33. CameronH

    Didn’t you listen to Joe Biden just the other day stating that the left believes in “truth over facts”. This because they do not think there is such a thing as objective facts and truth only the “truth” with respect to their narrative.

    As for the harm. The elites who peddle this nonsense do not think that the ill effects will fall on them. They are too busy with their crony capitalist mates skimming of their millions from the tax payer. The leftist foot soldiers on the other hand will suffer along with everybody else. They, of course, do not think that they will suffer because they believe the narrative as handed down to them by the elites. They honestly believe that a continuation of all of this renewable energy will eventually lead us to the utopia of inexpensive and plentiful energy.

  34. nb

    Not global warming, but more lies all the same. New York Times concedes defeat in Russia collusion hoax, now moves on to fabricate racism.
    https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2019/08/16/nolte-new-york-times-admits-we-built-our-newsroom-around-russia-collusion-hoax/
    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/08/new-york-times-meeting-transcript.amp?__twitter_impression=true

    Extract:
    Dean Baquet: If we’re really going to be a transparent newsroom that debates these issues among ourselves and not on Twitter, I figured I should talk to the whole newsroom, and hear from the whole newsroom. We had a couple of significant missteps, and I know you’re concerned about them, and I am, too. But there’s something larger at play here. This is a really hard story, newsrooms haven’t confronted one like this since the 1960s. It got trickier after [inaudible] … went from being a story about whether the Trump campaign had colluded with Russia and obstruction of justice to being a more head-on story about the president’s character. We built our newsroom to cover one story, and we did it truly well. Now we have to regroup, and shift resources and emphasis to take on a different story. I’d love your help with that. As Audra Burch said when I talked to her this weekend, this one is a story about what it means to be an American in 2019. It is a story that requires deep investigation into people who peddle hatred, but it is also a story that requires imaginative use of all our muscles to write about race and class in a deeper way than we have in years. In the coming weeks, we’ll be assigning some new people to politics who can offer different ways of looking at the world. We’ll also ask reporters to write more deeply about the country, race, and other divisions. I really want your help in navigating this story.

  35. John of Mel

    I understand all the “movers and shakers” pushing the global warming hoax – they at least have some clear self-serving motives, but what I struggle to understand is how come normal people believe in this without questioning.
    Read comments underneath this quite sensible article in Wheels. It’s like an invasion of the “climate” kids there.

  36. mem

    CameronH
    #3134540, posted on August 18, 2019 at 3:24 pm

    They honestly believe that a continuation of all of this renewable energy will eventually lead us to the utopia of inexpensive and plentiful energy

    .
    The foot soldiers are the would-be heroes who have at last been offered the opportunity to rise above the mob (at least in their own minds) without taking any risk themselves. Unfortunately we all know the story is not going to end well and like everything else in their lives it will turn to cr2p. How do you tell such people that they are complete dunderheads and have been sucked in. They don’t want to know because while they believe they are heroes.

  37. Tel

    Solzhenitsyn was onto it, writing Live Not By Lies on the eve of his exile in 1974,

    Orwell wrote about “doublethink” in 1949 and explained how citizens could be bullied into repeating any old crap.

  38. Lee

    Read comments underneath this quite sensible article in Wheels. It’s like an invasion of the “climate” kids there.

    Unfortunately, there are a lot more dumb, ill-informed morons out there in the world, than in that comments section.

    One even claims that CO2 is dug out of the ground!

    You simply cannot argue facts with ideological zealots like them.

  39. Tel

    One even claims that CO2 is dug out of the ground!

    I’m inclined to give that one a pass … coal gets dug out of the ground (mostly Carbon) then burned to produce CO2. Once you have dug the coal, the inevitable next step is to burn it at some stage, other than a few pieces that ScoMo carries around in his suit pocket.

  40. All well and good to calculate the greenhouse gas emissions, but what about all the deaths and general pollution involved in producing electric vehicles, notably the batteries and long term disposal of same.

  41. Lee

    I’m inclined to give that one a pass … coal gets dug out of the ground (mostly Carbon) then burned to produce CO2. Once you have dug the coal, the inevitable next step is to burn it at some stage, other than a few pieces that ScoMo carries around in his suit pocket.

    The same people who dismissively talk about coal “dug out of the ground” very conveniently forget or fail to mention all the raw material “dug out of the ground” to produce wind turbines and solar panels.

    In fact at least one of the metals required to make wind turbines is apparently quite scarce.

  42. Mitchell Porter

    I find Catallaxy an agreeable environment in certain regards, but with respect to climate, I do think I am seeing denial of facts, fed by fringe information sources selected because they support the anti-warmist view, and which require conspiracy paranoia (NOAA is falsifying the data!) in order to sustain their interpretations.

    I watched the video above earlier this evening, I will look again tomorrow. But what I saw was misleading juxtaposition of data. We had switching back and forth between two NOAA maps, with the same region red on one map and not red on the other. This was supposed to show that the data are being falsified. But if you look at the color bars at the bottom, red meant something different on the two maps!

    In the second half, there was something similar pertaining to ‘lower troposphere’ temperatures. Again, I think one map involves surface temperatures, the other involves average temperatures for the bottom 5 km (or whatever) of the atmosphere.

    I noticed that a well-known and relatively respectable skeptic from University of Alabama (can’t think of his name right now) was being cited, so some more substantial issue of science or interpretation was also brought up.

    I also recall that in the first part, we had timelines of North American temperature for the past 100 years or so. Of course, no one was saying it was the hottest July recorded in America, it was the hottest July recorded worldwide. North American temperatures are a small part of that, and they happen not to be one of the decisively hot regions.

    As a rebuttal this isn’t great, I am just going on memory and can’t view the video right now. But I am genuinely disturbed by the groupthink and paranoia here. It’s one of those through-the-looking-glass situations, when one is confronted with a collective viewpoint which is the reverse of reality as one believes it to be.

    Steve asks, how can the left deny reality when they have to live with the consequences of this denial? But for the reasons I have explained, it is in fact this video, which purports to demonstrate the naked conspiracy to falsify the data, which appears to be wilfully taking facts out of context, and comparing like with unlike.

  43. Mark A

    Mitchell Porter
    #3134844, posted on August 19, 2019 at 1:32 am

    Steve asks, how can the left deny reality when they have to live with the consequences of this denial? But for the reasons I have explained, it is in fact this video, which purports to demonstrate the naked conspiracy to falsify the data, which appears to be wilfully taking facts out of context, and comparing like with unlike.

    Reasons you explained?
    You have done nothing of the sort, you mumbled on about half watched half remembered things.

  44. Jannie

    At Dubai airport a few weeks ago I was transfixed by CNN. They had an article about how racist Americans are and the rise of the extreme right in US politics. They seem to really hate America, and tried to figure why they would want to destroy the place which gave them a business and a market. But then I clicked, CNN is for the international crowds at airports. They will benefit from conflict, so they promote it.

  45. W Hogg

    You’ve got to admit, fabricating temps in NOAA was a master stroke by that discredited criminal Hansen. If the Paris target was 2C and the world used UAH (+0.38) they would laugh at the economy destroying actions being proposed. So making up a number of +1.3 is exactly right to induce panic and urgency. It bears no resemblance to reality of course. Satellites contradict it and much of the world set cold records in July. But how many people are aware of the cold records? People laugh incredulously because south France was hot and they heard at it on saturation coverage.

  46. Entropy

    Mark A
    #3134845, posted on August 19, 2019 at 1:46 am
    Mitchell Porter
    #3134844, posted on August 19, 2019 at 1:32 am

    Steve asks, how can the left deny reality when they have to live with the consequences of this denial? But for the reasons I have explained, it is in fact this video, which purports to demonstrate the naked conspiracy to falsify the data, which appears to be wilfully taking facts out of context, and comparing like with unlike.

    Reasons you explained?
    You have done nothing of the sort, you mumbled on about half watched half remembered things

    No Mark, it is clearly two different data sources, yet it is being presented as falsification of data. By explaining the merits of one data source over another is too hard, so…conspiracy.

  47. Tel

    No Mark, it is clearly two different data sources, yet it is being presented as falsification of data.

    I would have thought the THE global temperature was by definition only one data source.

    If we believe in multiple simultaneous global temperatures … that would be equivalent to not believing in any global temperature at all.

  48. Entropy

    Yes, but they are measuring minute differences, so different approaches can yield slightly different outcomes. That does not require conspiracy. You can call it a conspiracy and falsehood about how these data are presented. Which of course this YouTuber is identifying.

    That said, you can probably say the same thing about this YouTuber. Just because your cause is just does not give you a free pass. The ends do not justify the means.

  49. I_am_not_a_robot

    Mitchell Porter (1:32 am),
    Tony Heller is showing one set of NOAA surface maps indicating “record warmest” where another set indicates no data, NOAA simply made it up.
    The comparison of surface compared to UAH satellite anomalies confirms that point, when it comes to “record warmest”, surface vs. satellite, it makes no difference.
    Incidentally if one wanted to observe any effects of CO2 on the global climate it would be in the lower atmosphere not at the surface and the UAH series is the only reliable record of the lot IMO, because it has the least post hoc ‘adjustments’.

  50. Lee

    As a rebuttal this isn’t great, I am just going on memory and can’t view the video right now. But I am genuinely disturbed by the groupthink and paranoia here.

    I am disturbed by the “groupthink and paranoia” from the left and warmists. Or more particularly their influence.

    How can you be “paranoid” when you don’t believe the world is going to end, or worry about the climate?

    On the other hand, warmists, leftists and “the world is going to end if we don’t do something about the climate” crowd, are clear exemplars of “paranoia.”

    If you haven’t seen the video, yours is no “rebuttal” at all.

  51. Entropy

    Tony Heller is showing one set of NOAA surface maps indicating “record warmest” where another set indicates no data, NOAA simply made it up.

    The other set of data is a different source that does not have the data. You can’t say the first source doesn’t have the data because the second doesn’t. He is mixing the data sources. I would make a graduate do it all over again if they tried that trick on me.

  52. I_am_not_a_robot

    The other set of data is a different source that does not have the data …

    Wrong, both maps are included in the one report and use the same data sources, if they had the missing data they’d show it.
    The percentiles map is for “environmental information” and is garbage.

  53. I_am_not_a_robot

    Further, the Congo Basin, much of Angola and the Pacific Ocean west of Hawaii are covered in red where there are no weather stations at all — none.

  54. classical_hero

    2+2=5. If you disagree the you need re-education.

  55. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Climate change?

    If it was ever an issue, we could make it a non-issue in less than a decade without major disruption.

  56. Dr Fred Lenin

    Im sort of looking forward to this summer even though I know it will be the hottest summer ever , again ! this year , suppose the seas will rise 800 metres drowning flannerys palace on the Hawkesbury that we paid for , he can find refuge with his gangrene mates in Canberra . With a bit of luck it will drown bob browns windmill problem ,I mean hes a leader of the gangrene movement ,NIMBY applies here .
    The patients are i charge of the psyciatric wellness facility ( madhose ,or. Foolish house as an old bushy called it -politely

  57. Dr Fred Lenin

    The left are amazing , it is impossible to stop illegal migrants they cannot be stopped ,however we can fix a climate Y naking white men poorer. They cannot see the incongruity of these two statements ,and they have mostly been to university ,what the hell do they teach there using our tax money ?

  58. Tel

    The other set of data is a different source that does not have the data …

    It’s fake, and they admit it’s fake if you read the fine print.

    Why does the land-only map have data missing for areas such as Africa, but the combined land and ocean map shows data?

    This is a good question that has been asked frequently.

    The land-only temperature departure from average map is created using the Global Historical Climatology Network–Monthly (GHCNm) dataset, which is the land component of the combined land and ocean dataset. Meanwhile, the other two maps (temperature departures from average and percentiles) are derived from the NOAA Global Temperature (NOAAGlobalTemp) dataset.

    [Global temperature map for August 2016 in three iterations. (top) Using only land observations, differences with respect to the 1981-2010 average, in degrees Celsius; (middle) blended land-and-ocean temperature anomalies, with the same convention; (bottom) percentile map for the month, with the same conventions as previous image, and ranking categories shown as of August 2016.]

    Yes, there are some areas that we have little or no data for, like Africa. However, during the merging process between the land-only and ocean-only datasets to create the NOAAGlobalTemp dataset, a statistical analysis takes place that interpolates (use scientific knowledge to fill in gaps) in areas with little to no data.

    Interpolating is a common and widely peer-reviewed process which takes into account neighboring data as well as historical information for the region in question in order to determine what the temperature departure from average would be for areas with little to no data. However, we are very conservative in our approach, and sometimes an analysis can’t be done. In those cases, the region will be set to “missing.”

    That is why the temperature departures map for land-only might have data missing for a region, but in the merged land and ocean dataset it has data for the same time period. Using the merged land and ocean dataset, we perform the analysis described in question #2 to determine the percentiles for each grid point.

    https://www.weathernationtv.com/news/behind-the-curtains-of-noaas-monthly-climate-reports/

    OK, we know what interpolation does, you take some sparse points and fill in between them to get extra points. Take a look at Greenland, in their “land-only” map they have a very small number of isolated points near the coast, but in their combined map they have filled in all the southern half of Greenland with “Warmer than average” and also “Much warmer than average”. They use the interpolation to take the sparse points and spread them out to a region perhaps 5x to 10x greater area than what they started with.

    As for the blue/red conversion, Tony is quite correct. Take a look at Darwin, it’s blue (i.e. cooler than normal) in the “land-only” map, and then it turns over to “Warmer than average” in the combined map. Well interpolation won’t change a negative into a positive. I understand that Darwin is on the coast, so maybe they blend in a bit of ocean data, but that’s got to make you question the validity of the exercise.

    In the middle of South America there’s a big blue patch (colder than average) around Paraguay somewhere and it turns into “Near Average” when they combine in the ocean temperature (there’s no ocean in Paraguay). They also manage to interpolate the missing South American and African data with temperatures that sure look warmer than any of the points they were interpolating from. This is highly questionable … perhaps we need to download the before/after data sets and zoom into those regions.

  59. Mitchell Porter

    Thanks for those who have replied. There are some people at Tony Heller’s blog asking for urls for his data, I am going to wait a bit and, hopefully, find out what the exact sources were.

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