This land is my land, this land is Greenland

From the icy tundra
To the icy tundra
This land was made to protect the Arctic from the Russians and the Coms

From out of left field it definitely is, but filled with sense and sound political instincts. Also taken seriously here, if a bit whimsically: YES TO ACQUIRING GREENLAND!, although mostly taken seriously among the comments:

Why is no one talking about PDJT’s true motivation, which is to keep the Chi-coms out of the Arctic? They have already approached Denmark with the idea to build airports there. The Danes may think they’re too smart to fall for a BRI swindle, but that’s irrelevant. Their Navy isn’t nearly as impressive as it was 1000 years ago, and their sovereignty over Greenland is only as strong as their armed forces. They should sell it while someone is still willing to pay.

Greenland is not a part of Denmark, it is a dependent territory with some self rule. Offer each family in Greenland $1Mil and have them vote on it. It could acquire status similar to Guam or PR, if not statehood. And yes, Greenlanders most certainly feel looked down upon by “mainland” Danes. BTW, it would not be the last real estate transaction between the 2 countries. US bought the Virgin Islands from Denmark in 1917.

China apparently tried to build 3 airports in Greenland recently, an obvious threat to the US. Also, the US is trying to check Russian efforts to gain strategic and economic control of the Arctic. It may not be long before Denmark has no choice in the matter. If Denmark were smart, they’d negotiate a percentage of mineral and tourist revenues.

I connected the dots yesterday when I read an article about a speech Pompeo recently gave to the Arctic Council about the need to defend the Arctic from Russian-Chinese encroachment. It mentioned that Greenland has a claim under international law to a huge swath of the Arctic and surrounding ocean. It also revealed that Democrat hero and MSM icon Truman formally offered $100 million for Greenland for the same reason, but was turned down.

Denmark only holds Greenland because of NATO. Without U.S. security guarantees it would be part of the Soviet Union today. (Without U.S. security guarantees there would be a Soviet Union today.)

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44 Responses to This land is my land, this land is Greenland

  1. egg_

    Oft featured for glacier calving, etc. for Greenoid climate po rn.
    Magnificent irony for Capitalism to own it.

  2. Tel

    Their Navy isn’t nearly as impressive as it was 1000 years ago …

    Once Greta gets back home and teaches the other kids to whittle some boats, you just wait they will have a navy every bit as impressive as it was 1000 years ago.

  3. Infidel Tiger

    Purchasing Greenland is the soundest policy Trump has espoused bar banning the illegal entry of immigrants.

    Extremely important for the future prosperity and security of the west

  4. Jock

    I thought the “offer” to buy Greenland at a dinner was a joke or worse a piss take. The man may have made of it but then found that a Democrat president made an actual offer in 1946.

  5. mh

    Love the pic of a Trump Hotel in the link!

  6. stackja

    I believe USA had control of Greenland during WW2.

  7. Tel

    Project Iceworm

    The USA would be a lot more interested in Greenland if that military base had been workable. Perhaps with modern engineering they feel like they can give it another whirl. Interesting … they needed a scientific cover story while the missile guys did the real work … so they hired climatologists on the basis that we already know climatologists never pay much attention and are unlikely to ask difficult questions.

    Iggy Pop got one thing right … you always need some Stooges.

  8. Bruce of Newcastle

    All completely silly, but then I strongly suspect Trump was doing his laser pointer thing for the pussies in the MSM.

    All this hysteria about the Arctic (and Antarctic) is presupposing global warming. That global warming is imaginary. There hasn’t been any this century, except for the back to back el Nino’s the last few years. And no one even in the climateer camp claims el Nino is due to CO2.

    At the same time when the AMO goes into its down phase Greenland will get it in spades. When the cold starts Greenland will be a very frigid place and the Chinese, Russians and everyone else will lose interest and leave it again to the seals and Eskimos.

  9. John Constantine

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-07-02/emails-reveal-china-trumps-australia-antarctic-air-capability/11251456

    It is alright, instead of being xenophobic and inspecting any peoples liberation army missile tracking base built on australian antactic territory, the australian Deep State put one of Trumps bases through a compliance inspection instead.

    Comrades.

  10. John Constantine

    The new head of Australia’s Antarctic mission, Kim Ellis, has forcefully brushed aside warnings from security experts that Australia is letting Chinese expansionism in Antarctic go unchecked, declaring the concerns “xenophobic” and unfounded.

    Long-awaited inspections of international bases on Australian Antarctic Territory have yet to take place, and Australia doesn’t know whether China breached environmental protocols in the construction of its new base and permanent runway.

  11. egg_

    Although the Greenland icecap appears, on its surface, to be hard and immobile, snow and ice are viscoelastic materials, which slowly deform over time, depending on temperature and density. Despite its seeming stability, the icecap is, in fact, in constant, slow movement, spreading outward from the center. This spreading movement, over the course of a year, causes tunnels and trenches to narrow, as their walls deform and bulge, eventually leading to a collapse of the ceiling. By mid-1962 the ceiling of the reactor room within Camp Century had dropped and had to be lifted 5 feet (1.5 m). During a planned reactor shutdown for maintenance in late July 1963, the Army decided to operate Camp Century as a summer-only camp and did not reactivate the PM-2A reactor. The camp resumed operations in 1964 using its standby diesel power plant, the portable reactor was removed that summer, and the camp was abandoned altogether in 1966.[10]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Iceworm#Sheet_ice_elasticity

  12. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    No, this is Mein Land.

  13. John Constantine

    China is therefore willing to strain the operation of the Antarctic Treaty system to defend what it dubs the ‘utilisation’ of Antarctica.

    President Xi Jinping’s idea of China as a maritime great power encompasses commercial opportunities; the Chinese Communist Party’s legitimacy depends, in part, on growing the economy. So near-term economic opportunities in Antarctica—such as fisheries, tourism, exploitation of the genetic and chemical properties of Antarctic flora and fauna (bioprospecting), and contracts for equipment and stations—appear to be given the same forethought and state backing as more conventional strategic objectives.

    China is therefore willing to strain the operation of the Antarctic Treaty system to defend what it dubs the ‘utilisation’ of Antarctica.

    In the Commission for the Conservation of Antarctic Marine Living Resources, China has pressed for reduced environmental safeguards. China’s less precautionary approach could end up harming Australia’s valuable toothfish resources around Heard and McDonald Islands, as well as international fisheries.

    https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/whats-china-up-to-in-antarctica/

    As australia dynamites its exploitative colonialist industries that exploit the enviroment, the Tyrant ramps up OBOR, to ‘Utilise’ everything that corrupt foreigners will hand over.

    Antarctica is just the South China Sea with penguins.

  14. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #3134663, posted on August 18, 2019 at 6:52 pm

    All completely silly, but then I strongly suspect Trump was doing his laser pointer thing for the pussies in the MSM.

    There is nothing silly about it at all.

    Greenland is part of the Americas and it beast conquest by war; besides the US has been half bought and half conquered. Gadsden, Louisiana, Alaska…

  15. Tel

    The USA never seems to offer to buy Tasmania … I can’t figure that one out.

  16. John Constantine

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/08/16/american-imperialists-have-always-dreamed-of-greenland/

    Robert J. Walker, a former treasury secretary and influence-peddler in the mid-nineteenth century, learned that Denmark might be induced to sell the islands in 1867 as he negotiated the purchase of Denmark’s Caribbean colonies in the West Indies. Seward leapt at the chance and commissioned Walker to produce a gushing report on the resources of Greenland and Iceland.

    Walker’s covering note to the report marveled at how buying the two islands could lead the United States to greatness. Although he admitted that basically nothing of Greenland’s north or interior was known, it nevertheless pounded what facts it could master, such as that Greenland was “the largest island in the world” and that it possessed “whale fisheries…of the value of $400,000.”

    Seward’s hopes that the United States could make a bid for the islands came to naught when his deal to buy the Danish West Indies failed in the Senate, even though the treaty for purchasing them had been ratified by both the Danish parliament and a plebiscite in the islands. (They would be purchased fifty years later and became the US Virgin Islands.)

    Lot of speculation that the purchase of Alaska has never paid for itself, but not having Russian nuclear submarines parked in the Alaskan panhandle archipelago for the last sixty years has a big value.

  17. Crossie

    Their Navy isn’t nearly as impressive as it was 1000 years ago, and their sovereignty over Greenland is only as strong as their armed forces. They should sell it while someone is still willing to pay.

    I think LEGO ought to be able to help them out, they seem good at building anything out of those little plastic bricks.

  18. Crossie

    China is therefore willing to strain the operation of the Antarctic Treaty system to defend what it dubs the ‘utilisation’ of Antarctica.

    The luvvies have not reacted about this as far as I know but when Barnaby Joyce suggested the same they all reached for their fainting couches.

  19. C.L.

    From out of left field it definitely is

    Not really, as it happens.
    The US has sought to purchase it at least three times, most recently during the Truman administration. It should actually be gifted to the US as (part) payment for the latter’s garrisoning of the Continent over the past 75 years.

  20. Nob

    When the media starts speaking to ordinary Danes and Greenlanders, after the obligatory PC outrage interval, it might find that they’re not automatically opposed to this.

  21. Bruce of Newcastle

    the US has been half bought and half conquered. Gadsden, Louisiana, Alaska.

    Dot – Europe was shuffled like a deck of cards over and over. But since WW2 things have frozen. I think it is a mixture of nuclear weapons and the angst surrounding the Israel-Pali thing. Last person to try to take over a place through manifest destiny was Saddam Hussein. That didn’t go well.

    The latest version is the facts-on-the-ground strategy run by Russia and China. They rely on their nukes to make it unworthwhile to challenge their gains. US doesn’t really have that option.

    But buying a place isn’t going to happen these days. To start with the UN Gen Assembly would go apeshit. So would the entire Left. Which Trump knows quite well. And that is why this is a fun squirrel and nothing more.

    Technically he could do it easily: just offer the locals $2 million each on contingency that they vote to become part of the US of A. Cheap, seeing there’re only 56,000 of them.

  22. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Last person to try to take over a place through manifest destiny was Saddam Hussein. That didn’t go well.

    The latest version is the facts-on-the-ground strategy run by Russia and China

    What happened to East Ukraine?

  23. Crossie

    The latest version is the facts-on-the-ground strategy run by Russia and China.

    Both of these powers are illusory, Russia is already a spent force. China is vulnerable in that its wealt and power depend on trade with everyone else. They can be dealt with simply by stopping trading with them.

    What’s more, demographically China is on thin ice. Even though they have a surplus of 100 million males of military age at present, thanks to the one child policy, this will become a negative in the near future. Even at present I doubt any of these males are keen to go to war seeing as they have been spoiled rotten as children and treated as “Little Buddhas”. Materialism and the internet have certainly had as big an effect on Chinese youth as on those in the West.

    I think British football hooligans are probably more motivated than Chinese millennials. I just don’t think it’s time yet to despair.

  24. Crossie

    What happened to East Ukraine?

    Resident Russian population of Ukraine helping out their invading brethren.

  25. Lee

    The new head of Australia’s Antarctic mission, Kim Ellis, has forcefully brushed aside warnings from security experts that Australia is letting Chinese expansionism in Antarctic go unchecked, declaring the concerns “xenophobic” and unfounded.

    I take far more notice of “security experts” regarding communist China, than a gullible lefty or various Labor MPs, an ex-PM, and a former NSW Labor premier with vested interests in China.

    “Xenophobia” be damned!

  26. Bruce of Newcastle

    What happened to East Ukraine?

    Facts on the ground Dot, facts on the ground. Ost Sudetenland.

  27. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Manifest destiny I sez. Going back to Ivan IV.

    To make out Trump, who heads the richest nation and best military cannot make a reasonable offer to Greenlandians and Dansk volk seems a bit odd when shitty, incompetent, barely equipped Russians can roll two conquered territories in a few years.

  28. Bruce of Newcastle

    Manifest destiny I sez.

    That anything like the manifest destiny that Kuwait is the 19th province of Iraq?

  29. C.L.

    The new head of Australia’s Antarctic mission, Kim Ellis, has forcefully brushed aside warnings from security experts that Australia is letting Chinese expansionism in Antarctic go unchecked, declaring the concerns “xenophobic” and unfounded.

    Why are we canvassing the strategic insights of a bloke who rattles around in an igloo all day?

  30. Herodotus

    The Euro-left msm (think BBC and DW) are reporting on the ceremony (complete with plaque) held in Iceland for the defunct glacier on one of their defunct volcanoes. It is, they say, due to climate change. That may be true, but we continue to dispute that “CO2 done it” and that humans can control the earth’s thermostat.

    Link

  31. mh

    Trump and Kudlow discuss Greenland

    White House chief economic adviser Larry Kudlow had confirmed the reports earlier in the day during an interview on “Fox News Sunday” and said it was under consideration.

    “It’s an interesting story. It’s developing. We’re looking at it, we don’t know,” Kudlow said. “Years ago, [then-President] Harry Truman wanted to buy Greenland. Denmark owns Greenland, Denmark is an ally.”

    The Wall Street Journal earlier reported that President Trump was interested in purchasing Greenland and the White House would seek to capitalize on its “abundant resources and geopolitical importance.”

    “Greenland is a strategic place up there, and they’ve got a lot of valuable minerals,” Kudlow added.

    “I don’t want to predict an outcome. I’m just saying the president, who knows a thing or two about buying real estate, wants to take a look.”

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/donald-trump-greenland-white-house

  32. Indolent

    The Trumps will be making a State Visit to Denmark in early September. Interesting timing.

  33. Mother Lode

    Purchasing Greenland is the soundest policy Trump has espoused bar banning the illegal entry of immigrants.

    He could set up a detention centre for border jumpers there.

    Toss an unlit match on the ground, let them fight over it until no one is left standing.

    And then the final bonus.

    You sell the unused match.

  34. 1735099

    National sovereignty is not for sale.
    But Trump wouldn’t have any comprehension of that principle.

  35. max

    All Empires have Expiration Dates

  36. Bruce

    “The USA never seems to offer to buy Tasmania … I can’t figure that one out.”

    The Chinese seem to already own New Zealand.

    In the realms of Rock Doctoring:

    Tasmania was a part of old Gondwana and became a bit of the Australian “plate” that drifted off what is now Antarctica. Just to make it interesting, Tasmania is geologically VERY closely related to a decent chunk of the US north-west. The giveaway stuff is apparently the Rhyolite.

    There is already a “connection”.

  37. Dr Fred Lenin

    Bruce someone told them about bob brown and jack lambie ,they feel they have enogh wierdos of their own , no chance that sale will go ahead ,might try and interest them in SA however ,plenty of scope for fracking there ,and they can replace the uranium clinto and obummer sold to the Rooshins .

  38. Iampeter

    From out of left field it definitely is, but filled with sense and sound political instincts.

    You’re not trolling are you…?

    Purchasing Greenland is the soundest policy Trump has espoused bar banning the illegal entry of immigrants.

    Extremely important for the future prosperity and security of the west

    …this can’t be real…

    No words…

  39. mh

    Make Greenland Great Again 🇬🇱 🇺🇸

  40. Clam Chowdah

    National sovereignty is not for sale.
    But Trump wouldn’t have any comprehension of that principle.

    Says the dumbass who probably thinks an indigenous third chamber of parliament is a super idea.

  41. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #3134787, posted on August 18, 2019 at 9:45 pm

    Manifest destiny I sez.

    That anything like the manifest destiny that Kuwait is the 19th province of Iraq?

    Err, no.

    National sovereignty is not for sale.
    But Trump wouldn’t have any comprehension of that principle.

    Righto dickhead, right after you say you’re a citizen of the world…

    Pish posh. The French bought back sovereignty after Edward III kicked their butts and America was half conquered and literally half bought…Gadsden, Louisiana, Alaska.

  42. Dan

    The Trumps will be making a State Visit to Denmark in early September. Interesting timing.

    Not any more. He has cancelled a state visit, on the basis that Denmark is opposed to him buying Greenland.

    It’s absurd. Large territories just aren’t bought and sold now the way they were 150 years ago. And Greenland is semi-autonomous with its own parliament. And there is the small issue of it being a civil law rather than a common law jurisdiction with its own legislation and criminal code.

  43. Empire 5:5

    It’s absurd. Large territories just aren’t bought and sold now the way they were 150 years ago. And Greenland is semi-autonomous with its own parliament. And there is the small issue of it being a civil law rather than a common law jurisdiction with its own legislation and criminal code.

    Nothing happened in the last 150 years to permanently change the course of history i.e occupation and control of territory by humans is a fluid reality.

    Denmark can sell Greenland to the US or lose it to a hostile acquisition. It isn’t capable of defending its colony.

    The only question worth asking at this point is “why did 45 make the proposition?”
    The more you know..

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