Open Forum: August 24, 2019

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  1. stackja

    Cable fault puts Basslink out of action until mid-October

    What was initially thought to be a two-day outage of the Basslink cable is now expected to be a prolonged disconnection.
    BLAIR RICHARDS, Mercury
    Subscriber only

    August 26, 2019 9:09pm

    BASSLINK has revealed Tasmania’s energy link with the mainland will be out of action until mid-October due to an on-land cable fault.

    In a statement issued shortly before 9pm, Basslink said it had identified a failure in a low voltage cable in an above-ground section in the transition station in Gifford, Victoria.

    “Basslink is currently preparing a plan for the repair. Based on current information, Basslink has notified the Australian Energy Market Operator (AEMO) that the interconnector will be offline until mid-October,” the statement said.

    “Basslink proposes further testing, which will better inform the return to service date. Basslink will update the market with any changes to the proposed return to service date.

    Energy consultant Marc White, of Goanna Energy, told the ABC Hydro Tasmania could be losing $50,000 an hour in energy exports during the outage.

    In early June, Basslink was out of service for about 24 hours due to an on-land fault relating to a converter station.

    In March last year, Basslink went down and remained out for more than two months following damage to equipment at the Loy Yang converter station.

    Since the 2016 energy crisis, prompted by a six-month Basslink outage due to an undersea fault, Hydro Tasmania has taken a more conservative approach to water storages.

    Fourteen of the state’s network of dams are currently listed as spilling after winter rains.

  2. calli

    In this Road death toll case, the police may be outwardly “tut tutting” but to see that they love it, is to see clearly.

    They were tut-tutting all right. Seven had one of those Brady Bunch style links to police in several states all looking grim and disapproving.

    All an opportunity to introduce even more rules and laws to punish motorists.

  3. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    oh, Freudian moment. Stove top not stop top.

  4. stackja

    New dam at Seaford Heights to help redirect wastewater away from sea and on to grapevines

    A 600 megalitre dam will be built at Seaford Heights, to recycle water for use on McLaren Vale’s grapevines.
    Matt Smith, National Affairs Editor, The Advertiser
    Subscriber only

    August 27, 2019 12:30am

    Wastewater destined for the ocean will instead be redirected and used on grapevines as part of a plan to secure the future of McLaren Vale.

    Acting Prime Minister and Regional Development Minister Michael McCormack will visit SA on Tuesday to announce a 600 megalitre (ML) dam will be built at Seaford Heights, which will help to redirect recycled waste water from the Christies Beach Waste Water treatment plant to irrigators.

    Mr McCormack told The Advertiser the project aimed to create an additional 150 jobs in the region and boost productivity by $33 million.

    Jock Harvey, chair of the McLaren Vale Community Sustainability Company Council, said it would contribute to the additional water required to secure the future of horticulture in McLaren Vale.

    “This storage dam takes us closer to our ultimate goal of zero outflow to the Gulf St Vincent, which will both improve the marine environment and increase the opportunities for horticulture,” Mr Harvey said.

    “Value adding our horticultural produce creates employment and protects valuable farming land from greenfield housing development.”

    It is the second project in the region aimed at using the wastewater from the plant to irrigate wine grapes.

    The sustainability company is a not-for-profit community group formed by irrigators and has partnered with the Willunga Basin Water Company to deliver the project.

    The company, which operates the water recycling irrigation scheme and of which Mr Harvey is a director, is contributing $4.8 million to the project.

  5. calli

    Trump is responsible for stock market slump, according to David Koch.

    Not responsible for the record rise, of course.

    Uh oh. Link man says it’s only 6% down on record highs and the low AUD is great for business. Others worried about Tweets. And we are being punished for trade war with China.

    It’s like they’ve all been put in a blender and given a whiz. Such is FTA finance commentary.

  6. stackja

    Unintentional drug deaths in South Australia grow to 101 in five years

    South Australia is in the midst of a mounting unintentional drug overdose crisis, which has resulted in a higher rate of deaths over a five-year period than anywhere else in the country.
    Steve Rice, Crime Editor, The Advertiser
    Subscriber only

    August 27, 2019 12:00am

    More South Australians are dying from unintentional drug overdoses in what a damning new report has described as a mounting crisis.

    Australia’s Annual Overdose Report reveals unintentional drug-induced deaths in SA jumped 55 per cent to 101 between 2013 and 2017.

    The increase, which was more than double the national average of 26 per cent during the five-year period, has been attributed to a resurgence in the use of heroin and stimulants.

    Latest Australian Criminal Intelligence Commission drug price figures also show stimulants – methamphetamine, including ice, and ecstasy (MDMA) – are among the nation’s cheapest.

    Independent public health organisation Penington Institute, which published the 2019 overdose report, says there is an epidemic of unintentional drug-induced deaths in SA.

    It found that in 2017, and for only the third time on record, more South Australians died from unintentional drug overdoses than on the state’s roads.

    Unintentional drug-induced deaths includes drug overdoses, wrong drugs given or taken in error and accidental poisoning due to drugs.

    The Australian Criminal Intelligence Commission’s Illicit Drug Data Report 2017-18, released this month, shows the price of an ecstasy tablet in SA is $15, if between two and 24 capsules are purchased, compared with $15 to $35 interstate.

    The price of 1g of methylamphetamine, known as ice, is between $200 and $400 in SA and between $150 and $1000 interstate.

  7. C.L.

    Ahahahahahahaha:

    Nuclear power not the answer as renewables continue to boom in Australia, report finds.

    Australia’s continuing renewable energy boom means the development of nuclear power is not a viable option, a new report from public policy think-tank the Australia Institute has concluded…

    The think-tank’s latest National Energy Emissions Audit found that for 44 hours during the month of July, South Australia generated enough wind and solar energy to power 100 per cent of its own demand, with some left over for export to eastern states.

    In hourly terms, this means they admit that renewables failed for 94.6 percent of July.

  8. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    a site in sparsely populated East Kalimantan province on Borneo island, known for rainforests and orangutans.

    Yes, we went there some ten years ago, on our second honeymoon. Saw the orangutans.
    The area is also full of palm oil plantations which are driving out the orangutans.
    A great big capital city there is really going to finish them off.

    Far better to finish off the palm oil areas and build there.

  9. struth

    Knuckle Dragger
    #3141655, posted on August 27, 2019 at 7:02 am

    Victoria Police sets female focus in bid to raise number of women in its ranks

    Victoria Police has reacted to a damning report revealing gender inequality in the force by promising to stamp out its “hypermasculine” culture and attract more women to the job.
    Susie O’Brien, Herald Sun
    Subscriber only

    44 minutes ago

    Victoria Police will give recruits who don’t meet its stringent physical standards more time to get fit as part of a bid to raise the number of women in its ranks.

    If your arse is smacking you in the back of your head and knees when you run…………stop running.
    We know where all the catholic priests live.
    Next to those strange buildings with spires and bells.
    No running required.

    The force will also pursue targeted career development for women only and hire and promote officers on the basis of their empathy, ethics and ­interpersonal skills.

    We thought they always had done that with the men as well.
    Silly us.

    Chief Commissioner Graham Ashton has committed to achieving equal numbers of men and women in Victoria Police by 2030 and rid the force of its “hypermasculine” culture.

    The empathy of the above recruits should be enough to scare the pants off government imported terrorists, bikies, pub fights and the like.

    Victoria Police has also committed to only hiring, promoting and retaining leaders who “demonstrate a commitment to gender equity”.

    “We’ve marched through the institutions by doing exactly this” so is this meant to be past or present tense?
    No new news here.

    Equal Opportunity Commissioner Kristen Hilton said the commitments reflected a move away from “the idea that a policeman should be a tough full-time male”.

    She
    “Gender should not be an obstacle,” she said.

    Is this

    ….

    Acting Victoria Police ­Assistant Commissioner Lisa Hardeman said the physical standards and requirements of a recruit were not changing.

    “However, we will be looking at how we can better acknowledge and increase focus on other skills that applicants can offer including empathy, ethical decision-making, communication and interpersonal skills,” she said.

    Having an organisation that “understands women’s experiences and how power can be abused makes police better placed to respond to gendered violence and abuse”, she said.

    [email protected]

  10. Roger

    A nomination for theLiberty Quote list:

    “If civilisation had been left in female hands we would still be living in grass huts.”

    Camille Paglia.

  11. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Is our Thermopylae painting of the glorious manhood of the bold 300 ever going to return?
    Why do we currently display an updated version of the Bayeux Tapestry?
    Is that meant to be Thermopylae too?

  12. C.L.

    The ongoing suffering of contemporary Western women:
    The ABC finds the country’s sourest female, most ungrateful new mother …
    Can a relationship survive when professional jealousy takes hold?.

    Ten years ago, Kylie Lewis was on top of the world.

    Her boss had just given her the go-ahead to start a new department, she got to lead her very own major project and she got her dream office.

    “When they gave me my own team, we moved to this hub, where along the back wall … it was just all glass, overlooking the city,” the 38-year old recalls. “It was where all the ‘important’ people had their offices and, finally, I got my own.”

    Soon after, her husband applied to work at the same company. When Ms Lewis’s boss asked her if that would be OK, she said it would be fine, as long as he didn’t, “work on my floor or have the same boss”.

    But after six months, her husband gradually migrated to her floor, and then to a desk outside her glass office. And then Ms Lewis got pregnant with their first daughter.

    “I went on maternity leave for a year, and arranged to come back part time for two days a week,” she says.

    “They didn’t know what to do with me: I was too senior to be demoted, but working too few days to go back to my old role. So they made me the project manager of some random project instead”.

    The worst, however, was the moment she was shown her new desk: right outside her old office.

    “They just sat me in the same spot my husband had occupied before I left for mat leave, and he had taken over my beautiful glass office. I also lost my carpark, which really upset me — I fought really hard to earn those perks.”

  13. Roger

    It’s like they’ve all been put in a blender and given a whiz. Such is FTA finance commentary.

    Tax cuts to businesses are a hand out, according to the ABC’s “Senior Business Correspondent”, Peter Ryan.

  14. struth

    I remember when men couldn’t get into the police force if they were too short. When they were rejected they had half a brain in their unspoilt heads as to work out why that might be the case.
    People like the blonde insulated bimbo commissioner will, and probably already has blood on her hands.
    We need to get these absolute pampered ignoramuses and social-ist climbers back in the kitchen.

  15. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    rid the force of its “hypermasculine” culture

    Real criminals are mostly hypermasculine. Catching them is men’s business, imho.
    I’ll never forget the pic of two Swedish policewomen unable to hold down an escaping offender even after he was rugby tackled to the ground for them by a male bystander. Our own crate men showed how it is done.

  16. C.L.

    Chief Commissioner Graham Ashton has committed to achieving equal numbers of men and women in Victoria Police by 2030 and rid the force of its “hypermasculine” culture.

    Yes, when I think of Victoria Police, I immediately think of hypermasculine.

  17. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    So they made me the project manager of some random project instead”.

    Male or female, you know it is time to go when this is your fate. Never agree to a job like this.

  18. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    My goodness, CL. That woman really was obese, wasn’t she? As well as being useless.

    She’d be more use as added ballast in any holding down operation.
    Wheeled in after the catch though, for she’d never be part of the chase.

  19. DrBeauGan

    DRBG yucca usually takes about 15 minutes to cook. I hope you peeled it first!

    Yes, gab, I pealed it and cut it to get a cylinder about 5cm thick and fifteen long, with two slightly smaller ones. Cooking time to get it soft enough to be easy to slice was just over half an hour.

    I fried the slices with the steak for twenty minutes or so. The yucca came out rather like fried potatoes and the Steak came out like steak. By my humble standards it was a triumph.

    Nothing could stop the powdered soup from being foul. But the viña rustica took the taste away. And I had about as close to steak and chips as you could get in Cuba.

  20. struth

    Virtue signalling costs lives, ladies.
    Cultural Marxism is truly a mental disorder.

    Grow up, or STFU.

  21. Leigh Lowe

    Soon after, her husband applied to work at the same company. When Ms Lewis’s boss asked her if that would be OK, she said it would be fine, as long as he didn’t, “work on my floor or have the same boss”.

    Try this for size:-

    Soon after, his wife applied to work at the same company. When Mr Lewis’s boss asked him if that would be OK, he said it would be fine, as long as she didn’t, “work on my floor or have the same boss”.

    And, of course …

    “They just sat me in the same spot my husband had occupied before I left for mat leave, and he had taken over my beautiful glass office. I also lost my carpark, which really upset me — I fought really hard to earn those perks.”

    Oh, the humanity!!
    The world is meant to remain in suspended animation whilst she is on maternity leave.

  22. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Not a facebooker so can’t access the list.

    I take it that Bunnings is on it. Can you confirm?
    If so, I will let my displeasure and their now lost expenditure there be known.

    Who else needs a burn? I have Bing Lee already.
    Sling a few key big names in here for us re-activists to roll with.
    The main point to make in your emails:
    we can be activists too. Keep your profit nose out of politics. Go woke go broke.
    The Twitter Mob of leftie socialists hate your business and you’ll be next.

  23. struth

    I find it interesting to note that our so called male left wing trolls are always silent on the cultural Marxism or never push it too hard at all.

    But they won’t go against it.
    Even this true sickness, that they know to be so in their hearts, that which causes insanity in it’s purest form, they will not oppose it, because destruction of the west is their goal and the means doesn’t matter.
    Even if they know the means is insane and evil.

  24. DrBeauGan

    “If civilisation had been left in female hands we would still be living in grass huts.”

    Camille Paglia.

    Camille always was a feminist. If civilisation had been left in female hands, we’d still be living up trees and eating our food raw.

  25. Rex Mango

    Heard Christine Nixon doing a women’s leadership forum (at the Opera House from memory) on ABC radio earlier this year. She said how when taking over Vicpol, she made it her goal to recruit more women, but couldn’t figure out why on graduation day it was still mainly men after all her reforms. Then she visited testing and found out there was a ‘wall test’ that many women failed. So she said she got rid of that test. The testing folk resisted, saying they had always had a wall test, but Christine insisted and how the women at the Opera House cheered hearing this. No-one asked about getting rid of the shooting, or driving tests.

  26. Bar Beach Swimmer

    cohenite
    #3141346, posted on August 26, 2019 at 9:26 pm

    👍

  27. Diogenes

    The think-tank’s latest National Energy Emissions Audit found that for 44 hours during the month of July, South Australia generated enough wind and solar energy to power 100 per cent of its own demand, with some left over for export to eastern states.

    Yep SA should really show us how it is done but cutting the interconnector to Vic

  28. egg_

    “If civilisation had been left in female hands we would still be living in grass huts.”

    The virtue signalling bulldust was thick on last night’s Q&A.

  29. Roger

    If civilisation had been left in female hands, we’d still be living up trees and eating our food raw.

    Like this.

  30. Tel

    I fought really hard to earn those perks.

    Maybe keeping the focus on doing your job would have been more valuable.

    Throwing some ideas out there …

  31. stackja

    Putting women in harms way is not helpful for anyone.
    Japanese did not respect Australian nurses on Bangka Island.
    And Yak Dut?

  32. Roger

    Like this.

    You Tube, Without a Paddle, Flower & Butterfly scene.

  33. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Women have contributed to civilization too, so please be fair.
    In our strongest contribution, without us and our bellies, there would be no people at all left in those tress and caves to develop further along the road to civilization. After that, over aeons, we contributed well in our own way, by nurturing children, and by providing half of the foodstuffs by gathering. Language was unlikely to have developed as it has without out input: we are better at it. We are also better at sewing – look at ice man’s clothing, so neatly sewn against the cold, and likely by some woman. When men have listened to us they have built better houses and run better empires. End of story. 🙂

  34. areff

    One sick puppy?

    Man, 43, who [email protected] a golden retriever and had s3x with another ‘dark short-haired canine’ could have his sentencing delayed

    However distasteful we find man-on-dog action, what of the Fido fancier’s property rights? He could have his dog put down without fear of legal sanction, and if the object of his affections were a chook he would be free to cut off its head, roast and eat it without an eyebrow being raised. Yet he can’t assume the doggy position without ending up in court. Some inconsistency there.

    Clearly, the defendant needs to base his defence on the fact that the retriever is male and, love being love, his prosecution is a clear and unjust assault on whichever colour of the rainbow represents woofters.

  35. Knuckle Dragger

    Tales of yesteryear:

    The Victoria Police Academy had a fairly tame ‘obstacle’ course at its Glen Waverley HQ.

    Run around for a bit. Climb this fence. Go through this window. Drag the 70kg dummy 30 feet, etc.

    Part of this was a log. A foot-wide log, suspended horizontally five feet off the ground. The mission: Get over the log.

    Blokes: Jog up to log. Put one hand on log. Use momentum to swing over log. Run away from log.

    Chicks: Pant up to log. Jump horizontally at log. Hang onto log with both hands. Fall off log. Realise they can’t use leg to reach top of log. Stare at log for a bit. Repeat. Eventually told to run around log.

    The failure rate for chicks, and only chicks, was so staggering that to remove the problem they removed the log.

    But kept ‘must complete course in XXX time’ as a criteria.

    ‘Standards have not been lowered.’

    Easy, innit?

  36. Mother Lode

    “No matter what you read and hear from the media, this G-7 was all about Trump re-aligning the world — reshaping the world economy with America’s interests first and foremost,” said Varney on Fox Nation’s “My Take.”

    I like the way the same old pundits put up their stories telling us Trump is mad, he is an idiot, he is a political naif who does not even realise he is being beaten like s red-headed stepchild and so on, and so on, and so endlessly on.

    This is how they talk of people who embarrass them, don’t follow their advice, or are politically to their right. Trump is therefore triply reviled.

    These pundits are the specialists at the old understanding. This is how they rose to the positions of prominence.

    But Trump changed the game.

    In nature the most specialised animals are precisely calibrated to their environment. They sacrifice general skills to develop insanely specialised abilities. They are masters of one state of affairs but when their environment changes they lack even the general skills to adapt.

    Trump has changed the game. They can’t understand him. They make one dire prediction after another and the bastard keeps confounding them.

    These pundits had all manner of slobberingly obsequious predictions about Obama, whose Presidency (outside the self-indulgent gripes of men who wanted to go into the girls toilets and lice frosted hippies who think the world will die for the switching on of a light) was pretty much a disaster. And while they wrote out it as the dawn of a new epoch, it itself has instead retreated over the horizon. A sickness survived. A bad joke finished. A rotting carcass buried.

    Hillary was supposed to win.

    Now Trump is there it is one disparaging headline after another. Today we hear that “Trump says he would meat Iranian Minister is circumstances were right.” How on Earth is that news? All it says is that Trump would not refuse to meet the Iranians if the circumstances being advantageous. A commonsense surely.

    But this is the level of analysis we can expect. It will continue as long as the old guard is trying to do logarithms on their abacus.

    They say science advances one death at a time.

    Well, not just science.

  37. stackja

    Roger
    #3141720, posted on August 27, 2019 at 8:53 am

    Did you mean this?

  38. Mitch M.

    Buddhism doesn’t posit a god or god’s, and as Jupes points out, gaia qualifies for the great agw scam. I think you are confusing religion with Christianity. Only heroes got an afterlife in the Norse religion, nobody but demigods for the Greeks. It was cycle after cycle of rebirth for the Hindus until you escaped into nothingness.

    I think you are being too narrow in your definition of religion. I’d suggest that it should include any irrational (non-evidential) belief which gives purpose and meaning to the believer.

    I wrote “nearly” because obviously … Buddhism.

    The video was about the demise of traditional religions. Re-interpreting the meaning of religion for political purposes is well … like cultural Marxism. What you are thinking of is philosophy, ideology(including the beloved scientism of so many atheists) as a meaning provider.

  39. struth

    Today’s Feminism equals feelings before facts.
    It is selfish delusion and results in misery and death.
    For women, and girls, babies and men, it has shown itself to be murderous, blood thirsty, and absolutely dismissive of it’s real world results.

    And the Feminist goes free.

  40. Roger

    Thanks stackja!

    Quite a funny movie.

  41. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Nothing could stop the powdered soup from being foul.

    It sometimes is, simply by the nature of the thing. Try different brands.
    But more likely it was seriously out of date and had gone off, badly stored in the heat.

    Slow cooked steak? Hairy always tells me that is a mistake. He does ours high seared and a few minutes a side depending on thickness. I think it depends on the type of steak if you are frying it: my experience is that Oyster Blade does well with a slower longer frying, but we only have it occasionally and if I do the shopping. Hairy always goes for fillet. Don’t buy cheap wine, don’t buy cheap steak; his mantra. Maybe yours was closer to the slow frying sort. Anyway, I’m glad it turned out well. Always an achievement for that to happen.

  42. Leigh Lowe

    areff

    #3141726, posted on August 27, 2019 at 8:57 am

    One sick puppy?

    Man, 43, who [email protected] a golden retriever and had s3x with another ‘dark short-haired canine’ could have his sentencing delayed

    Variation on the subbies “Man Bites Dog” dream headline.

  43. stackja

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I believe feminism wants unfairness.
    ‘Masculine-ism’?

  44. struth

    The failure rate for chicks, and only chicks, was so staggering that to remove the problem they removed the log.

    But kept ‘must complete course in XXX time’ as a criteria.

    ‘Standards have not been lowered.’

    Exactly.
    The log wasn’t lowered, it was removed completely.
    As have many standards.

    This results in death and misery out in the real world.
    Does the feminist give a shit?

  45. egg_

    If civilisation had been left in female hands, we’d still be living up trees and eating our food raw.

    Avoiding serpents.

  46. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    ‘Standards have not been lowered.’

    Anyone remember the different physical fitness tests for men and women in the A.D.F?

  47. Roger

    Women have contributed to civilization too, so please be fair.

    Take it up with Camille, Lizzie.

    Now, to be fair, the quote should be given some context.

    It comes from Paglia’s book, Sexual Personae.

    I think her thesis, like most works based on motif research, is too broad in what it claims, but it is nonetheless interesting.

  48. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Women have contributed to civilisation too’

    Yes, Lizzie. Which is why for thousands of years they were kept in castles and so on. Not to imprison them, but because they were/are highly valued and to be kept away from nasty stuff like punters with swords, cholera and dysentery.

    Kings fought wars over disputed succession involving marriage, which also came with huge tracts of land. They were and are worth defending.

    Except when they choose to go into Nasty Man Land, decide that they don’t like it and then insist that Nasty Man Land change to accommodate them.

    Sound familiar?

  49. Mother Lode

    Chief Commissioner Graham Ashton has committed to achieving equal numbers of men and women in Victoria Police by 2030 and rid the force of its “hypermasculine” culture.

    No doubt Ashton is intimidated by men who don’t back down when threatened.

    Also men who will run into a fight where three guys are kicking the shite out of one guy, run into a burning building to bring out a child, will step between a guy with a knife and his battered spouse, climbing down an embankment and trying to free someone entangled in a car wreck, or calm down someone belligerent instead of triggering an outburst of rage by straight away announcing they are under arrest.

    Politicians, in thrall to PC, are appointing small people to key posts, and they in their turn are trying to staff their departments with even smaller people.

    Bunnings may want to stock up on torches and pick forks. And sooner, rather than later.

  50. egg_

    I find it interesting to note that our so called male left wing trolls are always silent on the cultural Marxism or never push it too hard at all.

    But they won’t go against it.
    Even this true sickness, that they know to be so in their hearts, that which causes insanity in it’s purest form, they will not oppose it, because destruction of the west is their goal and the means doesn’t matter.
    Even if they know the means is insane and evil.

    Leftism is a maternalistic* herd mentality IMHO.
    The males are predatory, with the likes of Tits & the brothel creeper.

    *Viz: last night’s Q&A and most female-dominated panels on Teh Dumb.

  51. Mitch M.

    The climate cult has two of those for man human kind. Belief in Gaia and moral prescriptions. Only Gaia gets to enjoy the after life. It also has indulgences, calls for sacrifice (for those who can’t afford the indulgences), high priests (Gore / Flannery) and saints (Greta).

    The whole point of the AGW people is their belief that we must preserve the advancements of the current culture. You’re dead wrong.

    Sacrifice is universal. It happens in war time, in peace time, in various movements to improve humankind. Dead wrong again. It is not confined to religion.

    Calling it a cult instead of religion is just splitting hairs. AGW is better understood as a branch of scientism in that it fails to appreciate the limits of science.

    That Gaia worship you refer, can you prove that those who embrace AGW are also followers of GAIA? In these days the only time I see that word is on this forum.

    The climate cult posits an ‘after life’ that you can work to obtain by your own ‘good works’.

    At least you qualifed the idea of ‘after life’ and ‘good works’ but again playing the cultural Marxist trick of trying to reinterpret the meaning of a concept for rhetorical purposes.

  52. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Instead of triggering an outburst of rage by straight away announcing they are under arrest’

    Oh, man. So accurate. So, so accurate.

  53. DrBeauGan

    Language was unlikely to have developed as it has without out input: we are better at it.

    No you’re not. The average woman prattles a lot more than the average man, that’s all. All the best poets and writers are men. Women only score highly on novels about the social lives of boring people.

  54. Mitch M.

    I find it interesting to note that our so called male left wing trolls are always silent on the cultural Marxism or never push it too hard at all.

    As I have indicated certain aspects of cultural Marxism have permeated even into this forum. We have traitors in our midst.

  55. Leigh Lowe

    Eddystone

    #3141755, posted on August 27, 2019 at 9:24 am

    Young Christine Nixon.

    A lot of chip wrappers under the bridge since then.

  56. YT

    Zulu,

    Still in effect for the BFA. A 25 yr old woman has the same run time as a 41+ yr old man.

  57. Roger

    Women only score highly on novels about the social lives of boring people.

    Harsh, but fair.

  58. Roger

    Calling it a cult instead of religion is just splitting hairs.

    All worldviews are theological. Even atheism.

    And everyone has a worldview, even if they are not conscious of it.

  59. egg_

    Calling it a cult instead of religion is just splitting hairs. AGW is better understood as a branch of scientism in that it fails to appreciate the limits of science.

    Looking through a Scientist’s prism.
    It’s not about Science – “the Science is settled”.
    It started with the Gaia hypothesis, but Global Cooling was the beginning of the doomsday cult.
    The carbon tax has been likened to Chaucer’s pardoner (of sins).
    This phenomenon has been discussed on rightwing blogs for almost 2 decades.
    Bolta picked up neo-Paganism from yours truly.
    /Bolthead

  60. Black Ball

    Good morning.
    I see that Serena Williams has been given licensed to act like a fuckwit at this year’s US Open. Scott Gullan in today’s Hun:
    ‘Don’t mess with the Williams sisters.
    That’s the message that has been sent loud and clear to veteran chair umpire Carlos Ramos, who won’t officiate any matches involving Serena or Venus Williams at the US Open.
    The US Tennis Association took the unusual step of announcing on the eve of the event that there would be no follow up to last year’s final in which Serena and Ramos clashed heatedly.
    “This is our collective decision,” USTA president Stacey Allaster said.
    “We want to focus on the competition.”
    During the second set of last year’s final against Naomi Osaka, Ramos issued card violations against Serena for receiving coaching, racquet abuse and verbal abuse.’

    Code: ‘We want Serena Williams to break Margaret Court’s record and no amount of fuckwittery will stand in the way of this birthright.’

  61. Mitch M.

    No you’re not. The average woman prattles a lot more than the average man, that’s all. All the best poets and writers are men. Women only score highly on novels about the social lives of boring people.

    That’s because men have higher tolerance to alcohol. Writers and poets are perhaps the most depressed demographic.

    What did women contribute? Midwifery? Perhaps the beginning of medicine? Menstruation and understanding the phases of the moon? The development of child rearing skills? Conflict resolution because they exhaust the male capacity for ongoing dialogue?

  62. max

    calli
    #3141694, posted on August 27, 2019 at 8:07 am
    Trump is responsible for stock market slump, according to David Koch.

    Not responsible for the record rise, of course.

    Uh oh. Link man says it’s only 6% down on record highs and the low AUD is great for business. Others worried about Tweets. And we are being punished for trade war with China.

    It’s like they’ve all been put in a blender and given a whiz. Such is FTA finance commentary.calli
    #3141694, posted on August 27, 2019 at 8:07 am
    Trump is responsible for stock market slump, according to David Koch.

    Not responsible for the record rise, of course.

    Uh oh. Link man says it’s only 6% down on record highs and the low AUD is great for business. Others worried about Tweets. And we are being punished for trade war with China.

    It’s like they’ve all been put in a blender and given a whiz. Such is FTA finance commentary.

    Yesterday it was all screaming hysteria and panic. ABC in a muck lather. 27b “wiped off” ASX. All reports blamed Trump and side with China by implication.

    It’s hard not to put your foot through the screen.

  63. egg_

    doomsday cult.

    (Cold war) Nuclear armageddon
    Smog
    Global Cooling
    Ozone layer/UV
    (Giardia/cryptosporidium in water)
    Global Warming

    Tell that to Greta! and cronies.

  64. Mitch M.

    “the Science is settled”.

    That’s scientism.

  65. egg_

    doomsday cult

    Overpopulation

  66. Herodotus

    Delingpole describes the age of stupidity that has canonised St. Greta of Thunberg.
    As I said earlier, the (mainly left) media is destroying the place.

  67. Mitch M.

    All worldviews are theological. Even atheism.

    And everyone has a worldview, even if they are not conscious of it.

    So why bother with the pejorative of calling AGW a religion if everyone is guilty of being religious? What do you mean by worldview? My worldview is provisional because I know it will be subject to reevaluation which may involve a complete upheaval or just a few tweaks. That’s almost the complete opposite of religious belief because religious belief entails certain inviolate truths that must not be questioned.

  68. egg_

    “the Science is settled”.

    That’s scientism.

    The “Science” is never debated or questioned.
    Even baseload power is beyond debate.
    So shut up!

  69. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Blokes: Jog up to log. Put one hand on log. Use momentum to swing over log. Run away from log.
    Chicks: Pant up to log. Jump horizontally at log. Hang onto log with both hands. Fall off log. Realise they can’t use leg to reach top of log. Stare at log for a bit. Repeat. Eventually told to run around log.

    Those girls did well, and I think I could do about the same. Maybe a little better in my yoof as ballet dancing does build up the jumping and leaping muscles in the legs and upper body so I might have been able to scrabble over somehow, but more easily with an assisted lift. Today though, I would flounder with the best of them.

    During our last trip to Britain we were walking around the flooded river path in Shrewsbury and to avoid going all the way round decided to go through a five foot gate, which in the event was locked. Hairy started to help me over it, but I felt I risked a broken leg for the rest of the journey in any descent over the other side after his initial lift up only got me with one leg over the top, so we walked back around to exit as we came in. He could easily have made it over, Mr. Gym Man that he is.

    Hard to imagine Christine Nixon doing anything at all in that log scenario except the stare.

  70. thefrollickingmole

    PHRASING

    ‘We’re looking for an adjournment to finalise some facts,’ he said.

    It’s a very lengthy and complex matter.’

    The statement of facts, which was still a work in progress, was already 49 pages – far longer than any other similar documents, the Northern Star reported.

    The final version may be far longer.

    How long does ‘He rooted the pooch” have to be?

    The love that dare not bay its name etc etc….

  71. Show me.

    1. Show me the unadjusted raw temperature data.
    2. Show me the code for your temperature “homogenization” process.
    3. Show me the code for your ball tracking/prediction algorithm.

  72. lotocoti

    doomsday cult.

    I’m still waiting for acid rain to dissolve Germany’s forests.

  73. areff

    What did women contribute?

    Illogicality, inconsistency, uncaring caprice, faux drama and weary, suppressed sighs from those sentenced by family and circumstance to endure the subjective details of the latest fainting-couch outrage perpetrated against them.

    Mind you, there’s something to be said for fresh-baked scones.

  74. Black Ball

    Hard to imagine Christine Nixon doing anything at all in that log scenario except the stare.

    Maybe eat it

  75. egg_

    I’m still waiting for acid rain to dissolve Germany’s forests.

    Eevil brown coal?
    IIRC several have composed some rather exhaustive doomsday lists – Mk50 had one?

  76. C.L.

    When men have listened to us they have built better houses and run better empires.

    Lizzie, I like this famous scene in 300. You will note that Leonidas first seeks wifely approval:

  77. Rossini

    Black Ball
    #3141782, posted on August 27, 2019 at 9:51 am
    Looks like she did!……….burp

  78. egg_

    PHRASING

    Strange how bumbling, toxic masculine Archer usually saves all their @rses.

  79. Diogenes

    Slow cooked steak? Hairy always tells me that is a mistake. He does ours high seared and a few minutes a side depending on thickness.

    The best steak I ever had was a fillet slooooooow cooked, 12 hours @60c in a sous vide, then seared on a hot grill to get those beautiful flavours

  80. Geriatric Mayfly

    Most unwoke. Placido gets a standing ovation at Salzburg before he has even sung his first note.

  81. MatrixTransform

    But kept ‘must complete course in XXX time’ as a criteria.

    I think he means XX time …

  82. because religious belief entails certain inviolate truths…

    Only one that I can think of at the moment.
    It is sacred duty to figure out the rules of the Universe*

    * aka laws of physics, the cosmos, all things.
    God made the playing board. Figure out the rules. Peasants.

  83. egg_

    Who invented powdered soup?

  84. Mitch M.

    Only one that I can think of at the moment.
    It is sacred duty to figure out the rules of the Universe*

    * aka laws of physics, the cosmos, all things.
    God made the playing board. Figure out the rules. Peasants.

    That’s not a truth it is a method. We haven’t reached the end of that program by a long shot. Truths are what emerge from that program but don’t be too cocky about the eternal life of those Truths.

  85. Cassie of Sydney

    “cohenite
    #3141699, posted on August 27, 2019 at 8:17 am
    List of companies which have withdrawn their ads from Jones:

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10205963424481680&set=gm.1230226350510700&type=3&theater

    Pity about Bunnings.”

    Can you send around a list of the companies Cohenite……I don’t have facechook.

  86. mh

    The US Tennis Association took the unusual step of announcing on the eve of the event that there would be no follow up to last year’s final in which Serena and Ramos clashed heatedly.

    Ramos was 100 percent right and Serena was 100 percent wrong.

  87. calli

    Roger
    #3141723, posted on August 27, 2019 at 8:56 am
    Like this.

    You Tube, Without a Paddle, Flower & Butterfly scene.

    Actually, Roger, your blank page link said it all.

    Here I am, commenting and shopping and adding to my knowledge using media invented by males.

    Clever little monkeys, you chaps.

  88. Bar Beach Swimmer

    The average woman prattles a lot more than the average man, that’s all.

    Dr BG, apart from your one diversion today into things of a philosophical bent, since landing in the socialist’s Elysia, you’re forgetting how many of your recent posts fall into this category. It shows it’s time to come back home.

  89. calli

    egg_
    #3141791, posted on August 27, 2019 at 9:56 am
    Who invented powdered soup?

    The Devil.

  90. We haven’t reached the end of that program by a long shot.

    Agreed, only just started …

  91. calli

    The average woman prattles a lot more than the average man, that’s all.

    Depends on the subject.

    Sports?

    Having eavesdropped on many…many smokos, the blokes are the worse gossips too. 😛

  92. calli

    I’m still waiting for acid rain to dissolve Germany’s forests.

    WWII was far more efficient in dissolving her cities.

    Acid rain? Meh.

  93. calli

    areff
    #3141781, posted on August 27, 2019 at 9:50 am
    What did women contribute?

    Illogicality, inconsistency, uncaring caprice, faux drama and weary, suppressed sighs from those sentenced by family and circumstance to endure the subjective details of the latest fainting-couch outrage perpetrated against them.

    Mind you, there’s something to be said for fresh-baked scones.

    And…right on cue…

    Out comes a batch of banana, blueberry and white chocolate muffins. Morning tea time.

    Here…I’ll flick youse some,

  94. dover_beach

    What do you mean by worldview? My worldview is provisional because I know it will be subject to reevaluation which may involve a complete upheaval or just a few tweaks.

    The underlying assumptions that make your worldview ‘provisional’ constitute a claim, or set of claims, about the world.

    That’s almost the complete opposite of religious belief because religious belief entails certain inviolate truths that must not be questioned.

    And yet the Bible contains the Book of Job. And yet both Summas contain multiple objections to this or that question followed by responses. And so on.

  95. calli

    Dispella tok tok bilong me.

  96. egg_

    Who invented powdered soup?

    The Devil.

    Methinks Nestlé would have played a part, speaking of Maggi.
    As they did with coffee during WWII.

  97. Knuckle Dragger

    Areff, 9.50 a.m.;

    To use the word du jour,

    Compelling!

    NB: ‘fainting-couch outrage

    Ha!

  98. stackja

    Papua New Guinea wants the Morrison government to prop up its ailing Budget.

    Send in a few “Kiaps”

  99. Mother Lode

    I think I will never understand the French and their sense of entertainment.

    We have seen the mimes, the jugglers, accordion music, the inverse-Lolita drama of their Presidency, and now I read that a Frenchman spent 5 days with his head stuck in a ladder.

    Freaks.

  100. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    No you’re not.

    We have a far more developed language side of the brain, we speak earlier than male children, we have better vocabularies and grammar and our linguistic facility allows us a great capacity for intuition and facilitation in inter-personal relationships. It is not surprising that we write about these, if we write at all given our other responsibilities. I think all we can really say is that over the course of history some men and some women have been clever and shown admirable output as writers, and some men and some women have not. The same goes for all intellectual endeavor when the playing field is levelled a little.

    This does not mean to say that we are the same.

    Hairy is desperate for me to read War and Peace in its entirety but I am put off by endless battle analyses and agonies as well as ruminations on the life of the peasantry or the doings of the great and good. I prefer George Eliott’s Middlemarch seekers of meaning or Jane Austin’s asperities, both equally as brilliantly informative on human character of their period as Tolstoy was on his. Grand novels are perhaps becoming a lost art form now, although Amor Towel’s ‘A Gentleman in Moscow’, as a fable, still does it for me.

  101. calli

    Performance art, Mother Lode.

    Like those hideous scary mime statues. I believe the French are responsible for those too.

  102. I think I will never understand the French and their sense of entertainment.

    Consider that the nation (on average) is into their second bottle of red before lunchtime.
    It explains a lot of their behaviour.

  103. egg_

    Greta! and AOC are the new face of global warming.
    Just sayin’.

    /(Loon & tard)

  104. we speak earlier than male children

    Yes. In the early years women develop much quicker and learn faster.
    Then at age 13, they stop.

  105. areff

    Thank you, Calli. A tray of tasty muffins is a much greater contribution to human happiness than the most notable consequence of female suffrage: the prohibition of alcohol in the US, which became law immediately after women were given the vote.

    The Five Families have been celebrating the femme franchise ever since.

  106. Mitch M.

    The underlying assumptions that make your worldview ‘provisional’ constitute a claim, or set of claims, about the world.

    Yes but the key difference is I accept that my understanding of the world is constantly in review. It is not a set of claims it is a specific single claim about how to think about the world(that we must be prepared to challenge our most cherished ideas). A worldview is a set of claims about the structure of the world or how to understand the world. The term “worldview” can mean different things to different people.

    Religion is different, there are inviolate truths in Christianity, if only that be that God exists in the way modern Christian scholars assert though that depends on which scholars from which branches of Christianity. Can a Christian be an atheist or deny the role of Christ? Can a scientist discard a major tenet of their domain? Yes but often with great difficulty and nearly always met with strong opposition. We build theories so that others may build better theories. In religion there are cherished beliefs that to reject is to become apostate.

  107. Zyconoclast

    Caneball, an ancient east Asian sport, helps refugees from Myanmar feel at home in Australia

    Wouldn’t being in Myanmar make them feel more at home?
    They can also caneball there.

  108. egg_

    Performance art

    Beware the mime clown of doom!
    /T Blair

  109. calli

    Oh my stars, just looked it up. It’s a real story.

    Now that wouldn’t happen with a gorilla platform.

  110. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Consider that the nation (on average) is into their second bottle of red before lunchtime.
    It explains a lot of their behaviour

    This is a nation that once ran a Government capaign, urging the drinking of French red wine, as a cure for alcoholism.

  111. thefrollickingmole

    Dellingpole writes well.

    No kind of man that I know of, that’s for sure. Unless you count tofu-eating, milquetoast, pantywaist, beta, snowflake, self-flagellating, Mom’s-basement-dwelling, environmental science graduates as men.

    Which I’m not sure I do — and they probably wouldn’t identify as men, anyway, so I don’t think I’m being judgemental here. I’d hate to be judgemental because that would be wrong.

  112. Mother Lode

    Perhaps we need to train Morro to think like a Daddy – your progeny has left home because they want independence. Soft hearted fellow you are you often give them money to help out with things they ‘need’ – they suddenly need new sheets, a sofa, the TV broke etc. You know they have been wasting a lot of money on parties and crap but you have a soft spot.

    The ingrate little shit suddenly turns around and tells you they need way more money guaranteed in a steady stream, otherwise they will go to this guy who has appeared in the local area handing out money with promises that there are no strings attached, so he is much nicer than you.

    What do you do Morro?

  113. stackja

    Two calls in 10 minutes ‘This Nicole from the NBN’. She doesn’t know about NBN delays?

  114. ‘This Nicole from the NBN’.

    Nicole has stopped calling me.
    So has everyone else since I made the NBN switch.
    No inwards calls.

  115. areff

    Then at age 13, they stop.

    True in more ways than any man knows until encountering the inner 13-year-old in, say, a fiftysomething gal who wants to call you ‘Daddy’ during moments of passion.

  116. calli

    The Big Men won’t like this

    High-level meetings in Papua New Guinea’s capital have ended with Australia knocking back a request from Port Moresby to redirect aid funds towards the Pacific nation’s budget, however, a large loan could be a possibility.

    Those highways and railways to Swiss bank accounts won’t build themselves.

  117. Mitch M.

    Two calls in 10 minutes ‘This Nicole from the NBN’. She doesn’t know about NBN delays?

    Because of the NBN I’m up at this ungodly hour. I notified my ISP that a technician is not required because the problem has disappeared. Yet despite them advising me that the technician appointment had been cancelled the techie showed up. I should sue them for screwing my circadians.

  118. egg_

    Unless you count tofu-eating, milquetoast, pantywaist, beta, snowflake, self-flagellating, Mom’s-basement-dwelling, environmental science graduates as men.

    I.e. incapable of running a household.

  119. thefrollickingmole

    egg_
    #3141791, posted on August 27, 2019 at 9:56 am
    Who invented powdered soup?

    Poms.

    Height of their cusine.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_soup

    They boil everything to give it a lovely delicate flavor…

  120. stackja

    incoherent rambler
    #3141830, posted on August 27, 2019 at 10:36 am

    Telstra sent me a new modem. So far..OK

  121. Arky

    Hairy is desperate for me to read War and Peace in its entirety

    ..
    “Hey dere Lizzie my love, now don’t get being all offended. As I love our long, long, looooong conversations where I listen to you endlessly prattle on.
    I do, I really do.
    No, no, I do.
    But I think our discussions would improve if you read War and Peace.
    Here. Read War and Peace.
    No, look here, here it is, please shut up and read it. No please really. Please shut up and read War and Peace
    Take it, take the book, please take the bloody book.
    Lizzie, pick the book up.”.

  122. stackja

    French held the line, then Sedan.

  123. Mitch M.

    Poms.

    Height of their cusine.

  124. Calli:

    It may mean that the Day of Action is based on a crock. Amazing.

    It works on the basis of engendering a sense of crisis, thereby causing people to look for leaders, and to demand to be led to safety. (Whilst losing some forms of freedom)
    Someone said something about it once.

  125. thefrollickingmole

    Ladies main job is to civilize men.

    Usually using the twin tactics of nagging and repetitiveness.

    If it wasnt for women everything would work, but it would look like Le Corbuser has designed it.

  126. Diogenes

    Usually using the twin tactics of nagging and repetitiveness.

    You forgot the Lysistrata method 🙂

  127. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Here is Amor Towels upon a reunion of his ‘gentleman’, the Count, now reduced to the status of a Head Waiter at the hotel within which he was incarcerated, meeting with a returning old friend who had been subject to Russia’s infamous Article 58 of the constitution, which allowed anyone to be declared an Enemy of the State, and as such to be sent to the gulags:

    ” With his impeccable instincts, Andrey led Mishka to the chair with its back to the kitchen while Emile placed bread and salt on the table – that ancient Russian symbol of hospitality. A moment later he returned with a plate of potatoes and cutlets of veal. Then the chef and maître d’ excused themselves, closing the door so that the two old friends could speak undisturbed.
    Mishka looked a the table
    “Bread and salt,” he said with a smile.
    As the Count looked across at Miska, he was moved by two contrary currents of emotion. On the one hand, there was that special joy of seeing a friend from youth unexpectedly – a welcome event no matter when and where. But at the same time, the Count was confronted by the irrefutable facts of Mishka’s appearance. Thirty pounds lighter, dressed in a threadbare coat, and dragging one leg behind him, it was no wonder that Emile had mistaken him for a beggar. Naturally the Count had watched in recent years as age began to take its toll on the Triumvirate. He had noticed the occasional tremor in Andrey’s left hand and the creeping deafness in Emile’s right ear. He had noticed the graying of the former’s hair and the thinning of the latter’s. But with Mishka, here were not simply the ravages of time. Here were the marks of one man upon another, of an era upon its offspring.
    Perhaps most striking was Mishka’s smile. In their youth, Mishka had been almost earnest to a fault and never spoke with irony. Yet when he said “bread and salt” he wore the smile of the sarcast. “

  128. John Constantine

    ING inghams chooks takes a price slump today as results announced and not as expected.

    Feed price concerns outweigh chicken being the cheap protein for the proles.

    Some structural concerns about inability to ramp up in response to the chicom pig plague.

    Still others preferred, even at these levels. The risk of activists conducting biological warfare as well as social licence lawfare is quite real and not priced into the company.

  129. Bruce of Newcastle

    I’m still waiting for acid rain to dissolve Germany’s forests.

    “Acid rain” was mostly a fraud.

    What made the acid rain myth finally evaporate? (2008)

    How dangerous was acid rain? The most comprehensive study was commissioned in 1980 by US president Jimmy Carter. The National Acid Precipitation Assessment Programme (NAPAP) examined the damage caused by acid rain and recommended solutions. In 1982 president Ronald Regan raised the annual budget for NAPAP to $100 million. The final cost of NAPAP, the most costly environmental study in US history, was $537 million.

    The NAPAP reported in 1990. The findings were explosive: first, acid rain had not injured forests or crops in US or Canada; second, acid rain had no observable effect on human health; third, only a small number of lakes had been acidified by acid rain and these could be rehabilitated by adding lime to the water. In summary, acid rain was a nuisance, not a catastrophe.

    The findings of NAPAP were not welcomed by the powers-that-be, many of whom had staked their reputations on the impending Clean Air Act which would call for drastic reduction of sulphur dioxide emissions. The NAPAP was ignored.

    Typical.

  130. Mitch M.

    It works on the basis of engendering a sense of crisis, thereby causing people to look for leaders, and to demand to be led to safety. (Whilst losing some forms of freedom)
    Someone said something about it once.

    The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.

    H. L. Mencken

  131. Eyrie

    “Ladies main job is to civilize men.”
    I read somewhere that if we didn’t have the ladies, men would live like bears but with furniture.

  132. C.L.

    Indigenous charity forced to pay $2,200 to use Aboriginal flag on T-shirts

    Its Aboriginal designer owns the copyright and is very strict about getting his cut.
    That’s his right.
    Plus: I doubt the Indigenous Wellbeing Centre is a private charity. Sounds government to me.

  133. Gab

    I read somewhere that if we didn’t have the ladies, men would live like bears but with furniture.

    But with no cushions! How barbaric!!

  134. Mitch M.

    Its Aboriginal designer owns the copyright and is very strict about getting his cut.
    That’s his right.

    That is his legal right but does that make it right?

  135. Mother Lode

    Indigenous charity forced to pay $2,200 to use Aboriginal flag on T-shirts

    Honestly, you would have to have a heart of stone not to laugh.

  136. C.L.

    But with no cushions!

    LOL.
    Gab is the cushion queen.

  137. stackja

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  138. Mother Lode

    Setka loses appeal

    I never thought he had any. Gap-toothed mouth-breathing tree-cutter oaf.

  139. calli

    Ladies main job is to civilize men.

    Usually using the twin tactics of nagging and repetitiveness.

    I find sex and cooking far more effective.

  140. C.L.

    That is his legal right but does that make it right?

    When what The Guardian calls a “charity” is almost certainly just the Queenland government, sure.
    Screw them.
    It’s not like he’s preventing them from using a patented medicine or something.

  141. Arky

    I find sex and cooking far more effective

    ..
    Sure, but are they as enjoyable as nagging a bloke into an early grave?

  142. stackja

    calli
    #3141862, posted on August 27, 2019 at 11:06 am

    Ogden Nash — ‘Candy is dandy, but liquor is quicker.’

  143. calli

    Not at all, Arky.

    Just a useful way of redirecting calories.

  144. dover_beach

    Yes but the key difference is I accept that my understanding of the world is constantly in review. It is not a set of claims it is a specific single claim about how to think about the world(that we must be prepared to challenge our most cherished ideas). A worldview is a set of claims about the structure of the world or how to understand the world.

    If all you’re suggesting is that we must be ‘prepared to challenge our most cherished ideas’ than you are no different to Aquinas; in other words, it is too broad to be interesting. If the latter it’s self-defeating.

    Religion is different, there are inviolate truths in Christianity, if only that be that God exists in the way modern Christian scholars assert though that depends on which scholars from which branches of Christianity. Can a Christian be an atheist or deny the role of Christ? Can a scientist discard a major tenet of their domain? Yes but often with great difficulty and nearly always met with strong opposition. We build theories so that others may build better theories. In religion there are cherished beliefs that to reject is to become apostate.

    You’re confusing religion here with particular religions. But there is an even larger point to make, the central tenets of Christianity, for instance, didn’t just appear, they were discussed and agreed upon over time, sometimes, with several centuries passing. Moreover, the question ‘Can a Christian be an atheist?’ is illposed. It’s like asking if an atomist can reject particles as the fundamental unit of the material world. Of course they can’t, but that isn’t a limitation of science or philosophy, they would simply cease being an atomist by definition.

  145. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Why goodness me, Dr. BG, I have even started writing a little tale myself, and one not scared of tackling the grand scale of things. Here are the first two paragraphs:

    “In 1943, when she was twenty-two, Phyllis had a baby out of wedlock to an unknown American GI stationed in Australia. Her family were well-to-do. To avoid the shame and scandal of it, they sent her from Sydney to Melbourne to have the child in one of those places where such things were done secretly and well. Then they adopted the child themselves, while Phyllis went to a Charm School so thoughtfully available in Melbourne for a year. Phyllis’s mother told her friends that this little African child had needed a home and it was there to all intents and purposes that the matter rested.

    People did talk of course, as they do. While the American entry into the Pacific War against Japan was gratefully lauded as saving Australia’s bacon after the British high-tailed home after the fall of Singapore, and the American soldiers were welcomed, some social resentments simmered. ‘Over-paid, over-sexed and over here’ was an expression that Phyllis heard muttered more than once about her short friendship with the exotic soldier from a place called Manhattan, who played a saxophone in a jazz band on Saturdays, and who all too soon was to land on a once quiet Pacific island called Guadalcanal, where a great battle raged. In this urgent theatre of war, Phyllis became a long way from his thoughts.

    With the gossips busying, Phyllis …… etc etc. ”

    There’s more of course.
    Mostly on the back burner till King Arthur is done.
    He’s another sort of ‘grand scale’ of mine. 😀

  146. Des Deskperson

    ‘The Big Men won’t like this’

    Well, yes, Calli, but there is an argument that if we want to win hearts and minds in PNG – at least the hearts and minds that matter – then we should be doing more to make the big men happy rather than stuffing about with ‘worthy’ development projects.

    The Chinese have no such scruples.

  147. stackja

    Vic coroner resigns as alcohol claim nixed
    An investigation into claims Victorian coroner Sara Hinchey took alcohol belonging to the court has been dismissed, but she has resigned nonetheless.
    Marnie Banger, Australian Associated Press
    11 minutes ago

    Victoria’s chief coroner Sara Hinchey has resigned, despite being cleared of allegations that she took alcohol belonging to the court.

    The Judicial Commission of Victoria confirmed on Tuesday it had dismissed the allegations, a year after a series of complaints were levelled against Judge Hinchey.

    The coroner stood aside when the allegations were revealed in August last year.

    It is understood she has now resigned from the post, despite being cleared of 87 of the 92 claims in April, but will remain a judge of the County Court.

    In April, the commission decided five allegations warranted further investigation, including the one about taking alcohol.

    The claim was looked at by an investigating panel, which found no evidence to support it.

    “As such, the commission’s consideration of the complaint received regarding her Honour Judge Hinchey’s conduct has now concluded,” the commission said in a statement on Tuesday.

  148. Mitch M.

    When what The Guardian calls a “charity” is almost certainly just the Queenland government, sure.
    Screw them.
    It’s not like he’s preventing them from using a patented medicine or something.

    It defeats the purpose of designing the flag: to promote awareness of indigenous matters. It’s laughable that aborigines have culturally appropriated copyright to make a buck at the expense of advancing awareness of indigenous issues. Many charities receive government funding, doesn’t stop them being charities. The key idea is as a non-profit service to make the world better.

  149. calli

    Don’t forget to add in the troop trains going out to barracks at Warwick Farm and the GIs flicking sticks of gum to grateful Cabramatta urchins.

    And the slit trenches in the playgrounds.

  150. calli

    You could even have a scene on the cleanup of the Bellevue Hill back porch post mini-sub bombing. And the corner store that also copped one.

  151. Arky

    I’m not taking your word for it Calli.
    Answer me this: Has he ever bought you the collected works of Tolstoy and suggested you read it?

  152. egg:

    (Cold war) Nuclear armageddon
    Smog
    Global Cooling
    Ozone layer/UV
    (Giardia/cryptosporidium in water)
    Global Warming

    You missed my favourite – Polywater.

  153. Old School Conservative

    Who said boys can’t write?
    Year 12 students at The Kings School copied notes in an English HSC assessment. Got caught and punished. After parental intervention the Head Teacher removed all penalties.
    Claimed the about face was because the boys were caught up in systemic failure and individuals should not suffer the mistakes of the collective.

    The boys may not be able to write but they are good persuaders.

  154. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I find sex and cooking more effective

    Thankfully Hairy goes more for sex and conversation.

    He can be taciturn to my ‘chatter’ but get him going and he is a vivid conversationalist himself.
    Not too bad at the other thing either. I mean cooking, of course. 😀

  155. Arky

    PNG will already have made a deal with China.
    They are just seeing if we are stupid enough to pay them as they are walking out the door.

  156. Dr Faustus

    Who invented powdered soup?
    The Devil.
    Methinks Nestlé would have played a part, speaking of Maggi.
    As they did with coffee during WWII.

    It was supposedly a Mrs Dubois – who supplied dried “Portable Soup” to the Royal Navy in the 1750’s.
    Made from rendered-down random animal anatomy, it probably tasted like shit then, too.

  157. calli

    Never.

    I do have a much thumbed and annotated copy of Anna Karenina on the bookshelf. No WaP.

    I loved Doctor Zhivago. The movie. The latest AK like a stage play, not so much.

  158. calli

    The boys may not be able to write but they are good persuaders.

    NSW School Debating champs in the making. You heard it here first.

    Or they’ll become real estate agents.

  159. Dr Faustus

    PNG will already have made a deal with China.

    Yup; but probably not a long term relationship.
    PNG and China go together like peaches and creosote.

  160. Mitch M.

    You’re confusing religion here with particular religions. But there is an even larger point to make, the central tenets of Christianity, for instance, didn’t just appear, they were discussed and agreed upon over time, sometimes, with several centuries passing. Moreover, the question ‘Can a Christian be an atheist?’ is illposed. It’s like asking if an atomist can reject particles as the fundamental unit of the material world. Of course they can’t, but that isn’t a limitation of science or philosophy, they would simply cease being an atomist by definition.

    You refuse to answer my questions. A scientist can reject atomism and still be a scientist albeit a problematic one. It won’t necessarily prevent that scientist from doing good science. There are some scientists who think information is the essence of the world. A Christian who denies the existence of God is apostate and cast out of the church unless he recants. A scientist who rejects the prevailing views risks being outcast but also risks being a champion of science.

    If all you’re suggesting is that we must be ‘prepared to challenge our most cherished ideas’ than you are no different to Aquinas; in other words, it is too broad to be interesting. If the latter it’s self-defeating.

    The same can be said about your use of the “worldview”. So broad as to be meaningless and also the way others here used the word “religion”. Obviously there are cherished ideas in religion. Salvation through Christ, the Trinity, Reincarnation, prophets, apostles, the Book. I am very different from Aquinas. I live in a completely different age with many different opportunities presented to me about how to think about the world. I’m not that interested in understanding the world, it would take so many life times as to be pointless. I’m interested in what I can learn but I don’t pretend to have answers for living applicable to everyone.

    Do you accept salvation through Christ? Can Christianity abandon the central dogmas and be true to the Faith? Crick created the Central Dogma of Biology. No-one takes that seriously anymore and it was less than a century ago.

  161. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Don’t forget to add in the troop trains going out to barracks at Warwick Farm and the GIs flicking sticks of gum to grateful Cabramatta urchins.
    And the slit trenches in the playgrounds.

    Calli, as a movie script making lots of moola, why it almost writes itself. A damn sight better in plotline with your additions than some of the crap they are currently turning out.

    This story twists and turns, unsurprisingly because it’s me writing it, into Sydney’s bleak western suburbs.
    Write what you know about, a wise old copy chief of mine once said to me, but I decided to go to university and didn’t write at all. Only late in life have I started ‘fencing with the quill’ as the Count calls it. 🙂

  162. stackja

    State Coroner Sara Hinchey resigns after being cleared by panel

    State Coroner Sara Hinchey has resigned, despite being cleared by a panel of any wrongdoing. It comes as bizarre allegations emerged about the judge, including taking her skirt off during a staff meeting.
    Shannon Deery, Herald Sun
    Subscriber only

    11 minutes ago

    State Coroner Sara Hinchey has resigned from the role after being cleared of any wrongdoing over an allegation she took alcohol from the Coroners Court.

    Judge Hinchey, who will remain a judge of the County Court, handed her resignation to Attorney-General Jill Hennessy yesterday.

    She stood aside from the role in August last year after complaints to the Judicial Commission of Victoria sparked an investigation into 92 allegations.

    A Judicial Commission of Victoria panel convened last week to investigate a single allegation that Judge Hinchey had taken alcohol from the Coroners Court.

    Today it dismissed the allegation.

    A further 87 allegations had already been dismissed on the grounds that they were either unsubstantiated, did not meet the criteria for referral or were not serious enough to warrant further action.

    The panel comprised two current or former judicial officers from an Australian jurisdiction and one member of the community.

    Four other allegations had been referred to County Court chief judge Peter Kidd.

    They included claims Judge Hinchey:

    OVED her skirt during a staff meeting and persuaded a former senior employee to try it on,

    FREQUENTLY swore during meetings with senior staff,

    ENCOURAGED staff to be filmed doing “suggestive” dance moves for a court revue and,

    PUBLICLY reprimanded “despicable behaviour” by some staff during meetings.

    Judge Hinchey said she made the decision to resign “because the complaint has exposed philosophical differences about the direction which the Coroners Court should be taking”.

  163. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I loved Doctor Zhivago. The movie.

    I really loved the book. Lara and Zhivago’s love made my heart soar, and their lost child broke it.

    The movie, well, Julie Christie wasn’t my sort of Lara I’m afraid. How differently we imagine things. Vivian Leigh though was absolutely my sort Scarlett O’Hara; exactly as I’d imagined her from the book.

  164. stackja

    Bid to expel John Setka from ALP set to face another legal hurdle

    Union boss John Setka’s partial victory today has halted moves to kick him out of the Labor Party, but the judges’s decision likely opens the door for more legal wrangling.
    Tom Minear, Herald Sun
    Subscriber only

    5 minutes ago

    Rogue construction union boss John Setka has had a partial victory despite the Supreme Court refusing to shut down Opposition Leader Anthony Albanese’s bid to kick him out of the Labor Party.

    Supreme Court Justice Peter Riordan handed down his judgment this morning, declaring that it was not within the court’s jurisdiction to interfere in party processes.

    Mr Riordan rejected efforts by Mr Setka’s lawyers to grant an injunction to stop the party’s national executive voting to terminate his membership.

    But he found the executive could not expel a member if the move was not within the “limitations and preconditions” set out in the rules of the party’s state branch.

    The decision likely opens the door for further legal action to decide the matter.

    “The question of the legitimacy or otherwise of the motion to expel the plaintiff from the Australian Labor Party is not within the Court’s jurisdiction,” Justice Riordan said.

    “The Court does not interfere with internal decisions of voluntary unincorporated associations unless it is protecting or enforcing a contractual or other right recognised in law or equity. The plaintiff has not established any such underlying right.”

    Justice Riordan said that “in case I am wrong”, the power of Labor’s national executive were subject to compliance with state rules.

    Mr Albanese committed to ripping up Mr Setka’s Labor Party membership after reports of comments he allegedly made about family violence campaigner Rosie Batty.

  165. Mitch M:

    The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.

    H. L. Mencken

    Thanks Mitch – It’s one of the Liberty Quotes, but I couldn’t be arsed going through the list.

  166. Leigh Lowe

    Don’t forget to add in the troop trains going out to barracks at Warwick Farm and the GIs flicking sticks of gum to grateful Cabramatta urchins.

    Is this a FitzSimons auto text generator?

  167. Arky

    The good news?
    We won’t have to fight the PLA through the Owen Stanley’s.
    The bad news?
    They will already be in Port Moresby.

  168. stackja

    PNG liked the Cargo Cult stuff that came from the air.

  169. Mitch M.

    Thanks Mitch – It’s one of the Liberty Quotes, but I couldn’t be arsed going through the list.

    Memory trick: key words. In this instance I saw the word “clamorous” in my thinking and that was enough.

  170. calli

    Dr Faustus, that portmanteau pottage link was fascinating. The video depicted the way I make stock, except I only go as far as the jelly, then freeze it. Beef shanks are magical.

    On the troop trains, that’s Dad’s memory. He was a little boy when the Americans came to Australia. He’d wait with his mates by the railway lines for handouts. In between pinching fruit from the local orchards.

    I like the idea of a story about the subs that focuses on the ‘burbs, not just the Kuttabul tragedy.

    And the stories that could be woven around the Bridge and the North Sydney light shop. Even the quarry at Moruya. All that marvellous toxic masculinity.

    But no. We must have pc wymmynses doing boring/downtrodden/ridiculously uncontemporary stuff.

  171. John Constantine

    STX strike announce one of the deepest onshore gas exploration wells ever drilled in Australia has hit one of the most promising onshore gas discoveries for decades.

    Lucky not every Australian state has banned gas exploration.

  172. Leigh Lowe

    stackja

    #3141888, posted on August 27, 2019 at 11:30 am

    State Coroner Sara Hinchey resigns after being cleared by panel

    State Coroner Sara Hinchey has resigned, despite being cleared by a panel of any wrongdoing. It comes as bizarre allegations emerged about the judge, including taking her skirt off during a staff meeting.
    Shannon Deery, Herald Sun

    Resigned as coroner, but stays on as County Court judge ($383,453 p.a.).
    Coroner will be a sought after gig I predict.
    Evidence rules as broad as Christine Nixon’s arse, and the prospect of wide-ranging fishing expeditions.
    The murder of Maria James in Norfcote by the Cafflics up first, followed by altar boy suicides, I predict.

  173. Knuckle Dragger

    The indig charity forking out four figures to flag frauds.

    This is a microcosm of the aboriginal industry in this country.

    Half-white punters putting the soak on well-meaning donors, trousering cash intended for actual downtrodden people, and then shouting waaaaaacist as loud as they can through the sunroof of their Porsche Cayenne.

  174. dover_beach

    You refuse to answer my questions. A scientist can reject atomism and still be a scientist albeit a problematic one. It won’t necessarily prevent that scientist from doing good science. There are some scientists who think information is the essence of the world. A Christian who denies the existence of God is apostate and cast out of the church unless he recants. A scientist who rejects the prevailing views risks being outcast but also risks being a champion of science.

    No, I am answering your questions. Don’t you see your slip above? You move from atomist to scientist but don’t move from Christian to a religious person, which the comparison requires. As I said above, an atomist that comes to deny the particle nature of material reality ceases to be an atomist in precisely the same way that a Christian that comes to deny theism or the divinity of Christ ceases to be a Christian and yet may remain religious person (say, Confucian). Just as the scientist that has now rejected atomism may remain a scientist. Nothing you’ve said contradicts this.

    The same can be said about your use of the “worldview”. So broad as to be meaningless and also the way others here used the word “religion”.

    Not at all. I’m not using ‘worldview’ in an tendentious manner to exclude my view from criticism while criticizing other views. Nor am I using ‘worldview’ pejoratively.

    Obviously there are cherished ideas in religion. Salvation through Christ, the Trinity, Reincarnation, prophets, apostles, the Book.

    Sure, sure, I wasn’t denying there are ‘cherished ideas’, I was simply pointing out that their appearance on the scene took time. And, again, that science, too, has its own ‘cherished ideas’.

  175. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    LOL.
    Gab is the cushion queen.

    That is so. Kittehs led by Gab have furnished the War Room here with a woman’s touch repeatedly over the years. Let me say that in spite of the spilled beers and the need for Calli’s industrial cleaner for bloodstains on the curtains (or even the floors) and fag ends stumped out on these very same cushions, we have never given up on the Herculean task of making things nicer. Youse are all lucky we are here. Sharp tongues and kind hearts and staunch minds are what we bring to keep youse all in line. Every single Kitteh here has her own way of doing that, but the end result is we civilize you. Be very grateful. 🙂

  176. mh

    USBPChief
    ‏@USBPChief
    Construction of the new border wall system continues near San Luis, AZ. We’ve completed over 60 mi of new border wall system so far with the help of @usacehq. This new system improves impedance & denial of illegal entries, making the border safer for both my agents, & our nation.
    https://twitter.com/USBPChief/status/1165028307886333952

  177. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘we civilise you’

    There’s only so many tasteless market laksas you can be dragged out of the cot on Sunday morning to consume while your companion gawks at colourful cotton sun dresses sold by the millions, as well as impressive jars of home made chutney that get taken home and shelved for fifteen years.

    Civilisation’s also expensive. Things like cutlery and around the house pants don’t grow on trees, and could easily be sidelined and the proceeds invested in moccos and footy socks.

  178. struth

    About IWC. The Indigenous Wellbeing Centre (IWC) is a non-government, community-run and charitable service provider of health services across the .

    If anyone thinks for a second this isn’t completely government funded, think again.

    These outfits are all funded by government departments and without council donations, commissions and the like chipping in, they’d be gone in a heart beat.

    Very dishonest in stating non government while being government funded, it just means they get tax payer cash thrown at them with even less accountability than government departments who have s f a accountability anyway, especially in abo affairs.
    There are thousands of these orgs in Australia now claiming “non government” status.
    Complete bullshit.

  179. Mitch M.

    No, I am answering your questions.

    You avoided those questions because were the crux of the matter. You answer some now because I called you to account.

    Not at all. I’m not using ‘worldview’ in an tendentious manner to exclude my view from criticism while criticizing other views. Nor am I using ‘worldview’ pejoratively.

    How you intended to use the word is shifting the goal posts. The meaning is unclear, that is obvious.

    You move from atomist to scientist but don’t move from Christian to a religious person, which the comparison requires.

    I was discussing science. You invoked atomist. Christians are just a subset of religious people. “Atomist” has nothing to do with the discussion, it is a diversion that attempted to drive me down one of your rabbit holes. You tried a rhetorical trick that failed.

  180. C.L.

    Posted by Stack above …

    Vic coroner resigns as alcohol claim nixed
    An investigation into claims Victorian coroner Sara Hinchey took alcohol belonging to the court has been dismissed, but she has resigned nonetheless.
    Marnie Banger, Australian Associated Press
    11 minutes ago

    Victoria’s chief coroner Sara Hinchey has resigned, despite being cleared of allegations that she took alcohol belonging to the court.

    The Judicial Commission of Victoria confirmed on Tuesday it had dismissed the allegations, a year after a series of complaints were levelled against Judge Hinchey.

    The coroner stood aside when the allegations were revealed in August last year.

    It is understood she has now resigned from the post, despite being cleared of 87 of the 92 claims in April, but will remain a judge of the County Court.

    In April, the commission decided five allegations warranted further investigation, including the one about taking alcohol.

    The claim was looked at by an investigating panel, which found no evidence to support it.

    “As such, the commission’s consideration of the complaint received regarding her Honour Judge Hinchey’s conduct has now concluded,” the commission said in a statement on Tuesday.

    Wow. It’s the Caine Mutiny – with Queeg investigating the missing strawberries.
    Sounds like Hinchey is not part of the Labor brethren.
    I note that she’s a Catholic convent girl and a dedicated chef.
    She takes a bottle for the road and she removes her skirt for a laugh.
    She sounds a hoot.

  181. struth

    ‘we civilise you’

    Women were worth being civilised for.
    They where worth dying in the trenches for.
    They were held as being precious beings to be protected.

    As we note, not so much now.
    And women will suffer the most.
    And it’s all women’s and left wing beta male’s fault.
    Not all women, of course, but enough now for it to be a problem.
    To be safe in this world, you need decent Christian cultured ( not necessarily god fearing, but Christian based culturally) men to protect you.
    Unfortunately this is just a fact.
    Make these men your enemy and replace them with government, as women are doing now, and ALL women are going to end up suffering terribly, as will men.
    The best thing the decent women can do now is fight had and come out swinging, so to speak.
    For your children’s sake.
    Attack the femarxists for what they are.
    Indescribable filth causing death and chaos, due totally to ignorance, a sheltered life, and hysteria of the feminine mind.
    They, more than anyone else, are the problem.

    Good women, you are allowed to attack and will be heard.
    We men are now ignored.

  182. Mother Lode

    You missed my favourite – Polywater.

    Brilliant!

    I had never heard of that before. Well, not with water.

    I had heard of poly-waffle.

  183. Knuckle Dragger

    Apropos of the French.

    A surrender monkey has changed transport forever.

    Using a half-hoverboard and half-jetpack he built himself, he crossed the English Channel doing 160kph. Took him just shy of 14 minutes to do it.

  184. John Constantine

    Already mentioned on the old thread, but here is an example of the chemical warfare being waged on America by the chicoms, killing tens of thousands a year.

    The Mexican navy seized a container that contained a reported 23,368 kilograms of fentanyl at the port of Lazaro Cardenas in Michoacan. The container was found aboard a Danish-flagged freighter that had arrived from Shanghai.

    The seizure is another reminder of the Chinese connection to the large volumes of fentanyl that the Mexican cartels are moving into the United States. Chinese chemical companies sell finished fentanyl and fentanyl precursors to Mexican cartel groups. Finished fentanyl tends to have a much higher purity than fentanyl smuggled from Mexico into the United States.

    The synthetic opioid has become a game-changing narcotic for Mexican smugglers due to the massive profits that can be made on it. It is far more profitable than cocaine, heroin or methamphetamine. The seizure of this large quantity demonstrates how committed the cartels are to the fentanyl trade and how it remains a persistent threat in North America and elsewhere.

    The two largest cartel groups involved in the fentanyl trade are the Sinaloa cartel and the Cartel de Jalisco Nueva Generacion. With this consignment of fentanyl destined for Culiacan, Sinaloa, it is likely that the Sinaloa cartel was the organization involved in this smuggling attempt. Losing such a large consignment of fentanyl will hurt, but the group is financially robust enough to endure such a loss.

    Stratfor Threat Lens brings all the most relevant global security insights into a single, interactive, threat dashboard. Learn more here: https://www.stratfor.com/products/threatlens

    These cartels are operating in Australia, they aren’t pushing fentanyl yet because australians pay so much for cocaine and meth.

    Only a matter of time though.

  185. cohenite

    What did women contribute? Midwifery? Perhaps the beginning of medicine? Menstruation and understanding the phases of the moon? The development of child rearing skills? Conflict resolution because they exhaust the male capacity for ongoing dialogue?

    Women have motors. End of story.

  186. Bar Beach Swimmer

    I received an email from Myer wanting me to evaluate my “shopping experience” there the other day. So I told them that I didn’t think that inserting the Myer Foundation into Myer’s core business of providing products that its customers want and at the right price was a sound business strategy. I said I didn’t like having Myer ambush me with a passive-aggressive request for more money to quite possibly support some green-left crap agenda that was anti-business and anti-customer.

    #withPollysonotforturning

  187. Des Deskperson

    ‘If anyone thinks for a second this isn’t completely government funded, think again.’

    Truth

    In FY 2017-18 the Indigenous Wellness centre received $3,479,990 in Federal Government grants .

    It received $3,940,330 in State Government grants

    $3,688,959 of its revenue was ‘self generated’

    So while IWC not completely ‘government funded’, it is very heavy underwritten by the taxpayer.

  188. Beertruk

    Someone on the Q&A spacechook feed last night referred to unborn babies as ‘parasites.’
    I found this article Babies Are Not Parasites and counter fired back.
    An interesting article with some interesting links in it.

  189. cohenite

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10205963424481680&set=gm.1230226350510700&type=3&theater

    Pity about Bunnings.”

    Can you send around a list of the companies Cohenite……I don’t have facechook.

    Here you go Cassie:

    AccorHotels
    Australian Made
    Big W
    Campbell’s superior meats
    Eckersley’s Art & Craft
    Flight Centre
    IGA
    Kennards Hire
    Maserati Australia
    Palmers Glass
    Red Cross
    Snooze Beds
    Trip-a-deal
    Xero
    Amart
    Aveo Retirement Villages
    Bing Lee
    Chemist Warehouse
    ESL Insurance Services
    Geeks2U
    Ingleburn RSL
    Koala Mattress
    ME Bank
    Nick Scali
    Priceline Pharmacy
    RSL Art Union
    Spotlight
    Volkswagen Australia
    Your Town Prize Homes
    Anytime Fitness
    Bexley Dental
    Bunnings Warehouse
    Connect Hearing
    Fiat
    Hyundai Australia
    Jax Tyres Geelong
    Lowes Menswear
    Mercedes Benz Sydney
    Original Mattress Factory
    RACQ
    Sleeping Duck
    Total Tools
    Wynstan

  190. notafan

    The flag’s designer, Harold Thomas gave a worldwide exclusive licence to a non-Indigenous owned company called Wam Clothing,

    did Harold give or did Harold sell?

    the ‘aboriginal flag’is cultural appropriation anyhow

    just made up something else, plenty of designs to choose from

    not as if the ‘Australian flag’ isn’t paying for those tshirts

    Capitalism

    beautiful to behold

  191. Overburdened

    Who invented powdered soup?

    I am led to believe it came about after the inventor failed to commercialise the concept of dehydrated water.

    He did however give the consumer the much used phrase, just add water.

  192. Overburdened

    His biggest commercial success was in the ‘health conscious’ niche market with Viagra Lite, with the grab line, you only get half the fat.

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