Open Forum: August 24, 2019

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  1. BrettW

    No cricket on this thread so far !

  2. BrettW

    Ok this is getting too tempting.

  3. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Scoring five runs off a delivery is rather rare.

  4. BrettW

    What is the record for most posts at start of thread ?

  5. BrettW

    Just pretend Frank is not here ruining my thread.

  6. BrettW

    Prince Harry needs to get a new PR person. Oh wait, he did.

  7. BrettW

    Smiley Virus, that was funny.

  8. BrettW

    Ok new tactic.

    Plain packaging on cigarettes. Discuss.

  9. John Constantine

    Our Diversity is Our Strength.

  10. BrettW

    Gun control. Howard did the right thing.

  11. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    The unicorn rainbow fairy floss ration has been doubled.

  12. BrettW

    Well cancel all my previous posts. Frank just had to ruin it for me.

  13. Fat Tony

    BrettW
    #3139626, posted on August 24, 2019 at 12:27 am
    Gun control. Howard did the right thing.

    Wow! BrettW is Neil’s sock!!!

  14. Henry2

    A Gippsland regional council is handing out debit cards, pre-loaded with $700, to eligible farmers to spend at local businesses.

    Go here and comment.

    https://www.facebook.com/ABCRural/posts/10156796891277635?comment_id=10156801640097635&notif_id=1566520699264234&notif_t=feedback_reaction_generic

  15. mh

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    6m
    ….My only question is, who is our bigger enemy, Jay Powel or Chairman Xi?

  16. JC

    You know, he needs to stop this shit about Powell. This is awful as he appointed him. He’s a real big mouth at times.

  17. Perth Trader

    Henry2…..that would have to be a bad, bad , idea. Why not give $700 to every business , or every rate payer , or why not every resident? If times are so tough why not reduce rates by $700 per farm?..and where is the money coming from?

  18. Infidel Tiger

    Trump is losing the plot.

    He has no idea about monetary policy.

  19. Henry2

    Henry2…..that would have to be a bad, bad , idea. Why not give $700 to every business , or every rate payer , or why not every resident? If times are so tough why not reduce rates by $700 per farm?..and where is the money coming from?

    Perth Trader …. Exactly my response, but most of the commenters are agreeing with the idea of govt handouts. So scary ! Go there and make the point. I did.

  20. Steve trickler

    Really!, Egg?

    Hahaa! Well played.



  21. Steve trickler

    Still banned from Australia. Journo’s take notes.



  22. jupes

    What a day’s cricket!

    Laboosh and the three quicks deserve their beer tonight.

  23. Tom

    David Rowe can actually draw witty cartoons, but it’s only momentary as the daily red mist descends again.

  24. Tom

    Speaking of TDS, Pommy cartoonists like Dave Brown (London Independent) are as deluded as 90% of the American media who bought 100% of the Wussia hoax.

  25. bespoke

    You know, he needs to stop this shit about Powell. This is awful as he appointed him. He’s a real big mouth at times.

    LOL! must be a NY thing JC,

  26. bespoke

    New thread free of Ant-Vax crankery

  27. BrettW

    Fat Tony,
    Who is Neil ? Is he related to Griggsy or Birdy or one of the many others I find hard to keep track of ?

  28. bespoke

    Neil is OK on most things but a Pom on Gun’s.

  29. DrBeauGan

    Thanks Tom. I’m late again. Have been shopping.

  30. BrettW

    Sinc, please scramble Egg underscore for posting a link with Ellen and Michelle Obama.

  31. classical_hero

    Apparently there is a version of Monopoly on socialism and some leftists are upset about it.

  32. jupes

    The latest update in the battle-royale between the Windsors and the Sussexes.

    The story so far. The loony left Sussexes have been banging on about their environmental credentials. Daft Prince Harry has appeared barefoot at an A-list global warming scare-a-thon and told the world that he would only have two kids because three would be environmentally irresponsible. This could only be taken as a not too subtle dig at his brother and sister-in-law who already have three.

    The Sussexes then proceeded to fly to four holiday locations in private aircraft which have seven times the CO2 output per passenger than a small commercial jet. Oh dear. Some newspapers noticed. Never mind, Elton John came galloping to the rescue:

    Sir Elton also said he had paid credits into a carbon fund to make sure the Royals’ flight was carbon neutral.

    LOL. Someone should tell Sir Elton that no one believes that stupid confidence trick anymore.

    Meanwhile the Windsors have taken a commercial flight to Scotland for $132 per head. Take that you environmental loons! Advantage William and Kate.

  33. BrettW

    Ok that’s it boycott Monopoly !

    Oh wait, wrong reaction. Buy the new version and play it with your kids.

  34. BrettW

    Harry certainly not worried about his image based on his recent activities. However not doing the Royal families reputation much good.

    Stick to ribbon cutting and charity events but stop lecturing us plebs whilst hanging out with the Hollywood airheads. Want to mix with Hollywood types and boost your reputation then been seen having beers with James Woods and Clint Eastwood.

    When is the next Invictus games as that has been well supported by him ? His PR person needs to bring it forward so that he can get in the people’s good books again.

  35. BrettW

    Bring on the Week in Pictures !

  36. struth

    Good Moaning.
    A new socialist monopoly?
    Everytime you pass go the government takes everything?
    If you don’t buy property and go nowhere you win?

  37. jupes

    Harry certainly not worried about his image based on his recent activities.

    He is being completed dominated by his wife. Prior to meeting her he was a man of the people: a war veteran who wasn’t above taking economy class flights with his brother.

    Now he is a dyed-in-the-wool Hollywood lefty. Just as shallow, hypocritical and with the same gormless sense of entitlement. Sure he is actually entitled, however it is not the Royal way to rub it in the punters’ faces. That is what B-grade actresses with a chip on their shoulder do.

    By the way, what do you reckon the Queen thinks of his “only two children” statement? She has five.

  38. 1735099

    Harry certainly not worried about his image based on his recent activities.

    Who is this “Harry” character and what is his relevance?
    We had a dog called Harry.
    He was an absolute fruit loop, and we ended up giving him to a crop duster because he chased aircraft (the dog – not the pilot).

    Absolute lunatic of a dog.
    The pilot renamed him “Aerodog”.

  39. notafan

    William, the heir catching a commercial flight kind of puts the lie to mi5elton’s ‘security’ nonsense.

    Who does he think he is

    The bodyguard?

  40. John Constantine

    Will the Archer hammy allow him to come good enough to go flat out and break an Australian quicks arm tonight?.Or a concussion?.One bone crushing effort wins the series.

    The extra few miles an hour delivery speed that made him lethal had a physical toll when tested under five day conditions.

  41. The Countess

    Queen has 4 kids: Charles, Anne, Andrew, and Edward.

  42. calli

    Who does he think he is

    The bodyguard?

    Rocket Man (who is, in fact, just a Tiny Dancer) lent the Mona Lisas and Mad Hatters his plane. They morphed into Benny and the Jets and tooled down the Yellow Brick Road like a Skyline Pigeon.

    The disgusted public, on demanding Take Me to the Pilot, were dished up a load of unconvincing Sad Songs. Meanwhile, the Jets’ reputation died Like a Candle in the Wind.

    I guess that’s why they call it the blues.

    And yes, the b*tch is back.

  43. Farmer Gez

    Now he is a dyed-in-the-wool Hollywood lefty. Just as shallow, hypocritical and with the same gormless sense of entitlement. Sure he is actually entitled, however it is not the Royal way to rub it in the punters’ faces. That is what B-grade actresses with a chip on their shoulder

    Life imitating art.
    The UK spoof “The Windsors” is meant to be a bizarre comedy that you couldn’t actually take as factual.
    Harry is portrayed as a sex/booze crazed idiot and Meghan as a vacuous social climber who relates her life to episodes of “Suits”.

    Too silly too be true is the premise. Hmmm. Watch the show anyway, it’s quite funny.

  44. DrBeauGan

    Maria has kidney pain and a fever, she tells me. She went to the hospital yesterday, or at least declared her intention. There’s not much I can do for her. It’s Cuba.

    I’ve advised her to drink lots of water. I hope the quacks are on their toes.

  45. jupes

    She went to the hospital yesterday,

    Isn’t Cuba the world leader in health care?

  46. Farmer Gez

    I was thinking last night about the Pell appeal and the almost unbelievable reasoning taken by the two judges who dismissed the case.

    Judges we are told are supposed to carry out their duty without Fear or Favour.
    I have no doubt the judges acted without favour but is it possible that fear of social consequence and media attention could make a decision to leave one old man in custody easier than facing the storm?
    You would hope not.

  47. Entropy

    The Countess
    #3139700, posted on August 24, 2019 at 7:26 am
    Queen has 4 kids: Charles, Anne, Andrew, and Edward

    Anne,and maybe Edward would be the only ones worth feeding.

  48. DrBeauGan

    Isn’t Cuba the world leader in health care?

    Not going on the odd farmacia I pass. Practically nothing on the shelves and a sign up advertising natural medicines.

    My anti-diarrhoea pills are bought in the US. I can’t just nip over and stock up.

    Non-prescription pharmaceuticals are on the list of things to get to Cuba to sell.

  49. Entropy

    Judges appointed by Rob Hulls for their activism and political connections rather than knowledge of the law, Gez.

  50. bespoke

    Isn’t Cuba the world leader in health care?

    Maybe Cuba has heath care right being served by those with little more then a paramedic qualifications. Cheaper and less people in emergency because the need a band aid or have little cold.

  51. calli

    Seven trumpets “Glowball Emergency” of Amazon fires as top of the Climate Summit List.

    It’s the planet’s “lungs” dontcha know.

  52. Mark M

    If you are a Beatles fan, and a George Harrison fan, it’s like finding the rarest of gems …

    Alvin Lee – The Bluest Blues
    Alvin Lee- gtr, voc; George Harrison- slide gtr; Steve Gould- bass; Tim Hinkley- hammond organ; Alan Young- drums; Steve Grant- keys

    “Alvin says… one of my favourite tracks from my album ‘1994’.
    It has George Harrison on slide guitar and is one of the best solos he ever played.
    It’s a masterpiece, so sensitive.”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rB6OlJqV1rQ

    Enjoy.

  53. Farmer Gez

    I’ve advised her to drink lots of water. I hope the quacks are on their toes.

    Anything urinary and kidney related make you feel wretched.
    Water is good but endone taken with an anti inflammatory works a hell of a lot better.
    Poor thing, I hope she gets some real medicine.

  54. Geriatric Mayfly

    Judges appointed by Rob Hulls for their activism and political connections rather than knowledge of the law, Gez.

    Didn’t Ferguson ascend from a solicitor’s rental office above the fish and chip shop straight onto the Bench?

  55. Tom

    Spring has sprung early in Victoriastan, so all eyes tonight are on the north of England and the Ebor Handicap at York — a traditional lead-in to the Melbourne Cup — and, in particular Raheen House. That is if you can take your eyes off the astonishing cricket going on 30 kms away at Headingly.

  56. jupes

    I have no doubt the judges acted without favour

    Really? I have plenty of doubt.

  57. jupes

    No I’m sure Cuba is the world leader in health care.

    Someone made a documentary about it. Michael someone or other. Big bloke.

  58. DrBeauGan

    no money no anything

    This is just wrong. There’s plenty of. meat of all sorts available in Havana. I’ve bought it. It’s poor quality, although no worse than in Sri Lanka. And the flies are all over it, so I wash it before microwaving it before frying it. It’s cheap too.

    I’m looking forward to getting back to Oz and getting outside a filet Mignon with a good red, and you can’t get anything like that at the best restaurants in Cuba. But the aged lady queuing for hours and then failing to get bits of chicken is fake news.

    Of course, I’m here and shopping for food and you’re on the internet so you know far more than I would.

  59. jupes

    If you are a Beatles fan, and a George Harrison fan, it’s like finding the rarest of gems …

    Thanks Mark. That track is indeed a gem.

  60. feelthebern

    David Rowe’s second cartoon is anti semitic.
    What a fucking disgrace.

  61. Old School Conservative

    Hey KD, have you seen this from The Oz?

    The outcricket was sharp, a credit to fielding coach Brad Haddin. Having spilt three chances at Lord’s, David Warner accepted four before lunch, none of them easy, all of them celebrated with abandon. Usman Khawaja has not taken a better catch than his dive in the gully to remove Virat Kohli in Adelaide last December.

  62. C.L.

    First world problems:

    Transgender woman had to tick ATO’s mental illness box to get early access to super.

    But two years later, when she was ready to undergo gender transition surgery, which involved the removal of her penis

  63. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Anti-Pell media pile-on has its day despite Weinberg dissentGerard Henderson

    12:00AM August 24, 2019

    David Marr is a George Pell ­antagonist who writes for the left-wing Guardian Australia and appears on the ABC. In the Guardian Australia on Wednesday, Marr commented on the decision of the Victorian Court of Appeal in ­George Pell v The Queen.

    Marr had this to say about Justice Mark Weinberg, who delivered the dissenting judgment in the case: “Weinberg is regarded as one of the great authorities on criminal law in this country. He’s spoken of as a man who ought by right to have sat on the High Court. His questioning during the appeal (by Pell) in June was particularly lucid.”

    Since Pell is a very high-profile Australian and Weinberg is one of the most experienced jurists in the criminal jurisdiction, it’s reasonable to assume that Weinberg would have determined Pell not guilty if the case had been heard by judge alone. However, Victoria happens to be the only state or territory (with the exception of Tasmania and the Northern Territory) that denies this facility to defendants.

    Providing defendants with the option of having a trial by judge alone did not come about by accident. Rather, parliaments decided that in certain situations a defendant could not be guaranteed a fair outcome if their guilt was assessed by a jury. Trial by judge alone usually occurs when there is a high-profile defendant and/or a particularly heinous crime and/or much negative pre-trial media coverage. All three criteria were present in George Pell v The Queen. The first jury was split and the trial was voided. However, the second jury brought in a unanimous verdict after deliberating for almost five days.

    On appeal, Chief Justice Anne Ferguson and Justice Chris Maxwell (president of the Court of Appeal) supported the jury’s decision. Weinberg dissented in a powerful and well-written judgment that is almost twice as long as the majority decision.

    The argument for an option of trial by judge alone is never more evident than in this case. For close to a decade there has been a media pile-on against Pell. It was led by sections of the ABC (7.30, Four Corners, The Drum, News Breakfast), Nine Network (60 Minutes), Network Ten (The Project), Nine’s former Fairfax newspapers (The Sydney Morning Herald, The Age), Guardian Australia, The New Daily, The Saturday Paper, even at times Sky News (Paul Murray Live, Hinch) and more besides.

    The taxpayer-funded public broadcaster was the leader of the anti-Pell pile on. On July 28, 2016, ABC management devoted its entire 30 minutes of 7.30 to an attack on Pell by journalist Louise Milligan. Her case rested primarily on alleged offences by Pell against young boys at the very public ­Eureka Swimming Pool in Ballarat in the 1970s.

    Earlier this year the Victorian Director of Public Prosecutions withdrew the charges against Pell with respect to the Eureka Pool. Even so, 7.30 has not advised viewers of the fate of its July 2016 program.

    Then there was Milligan’s Cardinal: The Rise and Fall of George Pell (MUP, 2017), the publication date of which was brought forward before Pell’s committal hearings at the Victorian Magistrates Court. This book was withdrawn from sale in Victoria once the legal proceedings were under way. But it was available in the rest of Australia.

    From the Oz.

  64. hzhousewife

    Seven trumpets “Glowball Emergency” of Amazon fires as top of the Climate Summit List.

    It’s the planet’s “lungs” dontcha know.

    I am reliably informed via coffee shop gossip this morning that the Amazon fires have used up 20 % of the worlds oxygen in the last week.
    Greta might be right, the end of the world is nigher than we think!!

  65. Up The Workers!

    To Farmer Gez at 7.53 am:

    If you are still puzzling over the reasons for the two Labor Judgements, just ask ‘Get Up’ what was in their daily instructions to the devout.

    Leftard group-finkers would all be struck dumb without being told by headquarters what to think and say.

    Meanwhile Bonking Billy is still roaming the streets free as a mugger and his alleged victim is still unable to get her case of non-consensual sex with a drunk and drugged minor, into any Court in the vastly corrupt Mogadishu-by-the-Yarra “Judicial” system.

  66. cohenite

    So michelle will never suffer camel toe:

  67. mh

    But two years later, when she was ready to undergo gender transition surgery, which involved the removal of her penis …

    David Frith may have spent too much time in Lycra.

  68. stackja

    Premier Gladys Berejiklian says she votes beyond personal faith on matters of conscience
    Premier Gladys Berejiklian says she has to vote “beyond my personal faith” and has defiantly insisted no amount of community consultation would have smoothed the passage of new abortion legislation through NSW parliament.
    Danielle Le Messurier, The Daily Telegraph
    Subscriber only
    43 minutes ago

    Premier Gladys Berejiklian says she has to separate herself from her personal faith when making major decisions on proposed laws to decriminalise abortion in NSW.
    “We have to accept that no matter what length of time it took … a lot of people are pretty fixed in their views one way or another,” she said.
    The Premier, who is a member of the Armenian church, said she felt an “intense sense of responsibility” in her role when voting on matters of conscience including an abortion bill currently before the NSW upper house.
    Ms Berejiklian said she was “someone of very deep faith” but felt an obligation to “separate my faith from making a decision”.

    “I feel my decision has to be beyond my personal faith and what I believe is important for the broader community,” she said.

    ..

    “But for many people their faith and decision making is one and the same and I respect that.”

    “Therefore people have different reasons for why they have the positions they do. I don’t think it’s fair to say that it’s because there’s flaws, I think it’s fair to say that’s because how people feel about an issue.”

    Explains a lot about Gladys Berejiklian.

  69. zyconoclast

    So michelle will never suffer camel toe:

    Is suffering a camel schlong a thing?

  70. Entropy

    How could you post that cohenitte? Poor form indeed.

  71. zyconoclast

    Cheer squad parents asked to sell fundraiser raffle tickets for semi-automatic rifle

    NEW RICHMOND, Ohio (FOX19) – A New Richmond mother is fighting for change after she says her 7-year-old daughter was asked to sell raffle tickets for a semi-automatic gun for her cheer squad.

    This is Nevaeh Chilton’s first year on the Junior Lions Cheer Team. Her mother, Heather Chilton was excited for her 7-year-old daughter to join the squad.

    Now she’s fired up about a fundraiser her daughter was asked to be a part of.

    The members of the football and cheer team have been asked to to sell raffle tickets for an AM-15 optic ready rifle.

  72. zyconoclast

    Luckily it is not the beaver state.

    An Obama-appointed federal judge is forcing Wisconsin taxpayers to provide costly sex reassignment surgery and hormonal procedures for low-income transgender residents who get free medical care from the government. In a recently issued ruling U.S. District Judge William M. Conley writes that Medicaid, the publicly funded insurance that covers 65.7 million poor people, cannot deny the medical treatment needs of those suffering from “gender dysphoria.” Officials estimate it will cost up to $1.2 million annually to provide transgender Medicaid recipients in the Badger State with treatments such as “gender confirmation” surgery, including elective mastectomies, hysterectomies, genital reconstruction and breast augmentation. The intricate operations are typically done by plastic surgeons.

  73. Entropy

    beyond my personal faith

    Translated: I vote for what I perceive as the requirements of my Photios masters, not according to my conscience, which I seem to have lost down the back of the car seat.

  74. mh

    Still cool around SE Qld.

    Kingaroy dropped to 1.5 degrees Celsius this morning, while Numbers old stomping ground Canungra was 2.0 degrees.

  75. Entropy

    Still cool around SE Qld

    Yes I had to turn the heater on for a few minutes this morning. Hate to have to do that.

  76. zyconoclast

    Miley Cyrus’ split with Liam Hemsworth isn’t just celebrity gossip — it’s a blow to the patriarchy
    Women like Cyrus are speaking out about sexuality in ways that put the power — and responsibility — back into their own hands.

    Over the past week, an assortment of trending stories — from Jeffrey Epstein to the Dayton and El Paso mass shooters, to Miley Cyrus’s separation and Julianne Hough’s declaration that she’s “not straight” — together have laid bare the strictures of an American patriarchy on the edge of a nervous breakdown. As the status quo, heterosexuality is just not working.

    Patriarchy is at its most potent when oppression doesn’t feel like oppression, or when it is packaged in terms of biology, religion or basic social needs like security comfort, acceptance and success. Heterosexuality offers women all these things as selling points to their consensual subjection.

    While men stew in their mess, women are rising. They are taking back control of their lives and their bodies and they are questioning the foundation of the patriarchy — heterosexuality — that has kept them blindly subordinate for centuries.

    “A feminist critique of compulsory heterosexual orientation for women is long overdue,” Adrienne Rich wrote in her 1980 feminist classic “Compulsory Heterosexuality and Lesbian Existence.”

    It looks like this critique has finally arrived in the mainstream.

  77. stackja

    Witches and giants: The fight for 2GB

    Rowdy online activist groups think they’ve found a way to pester Alan Jones off the air, but the radio king has other ideas, write Matthew Benns and Edward Boyd.
    Matthew Benns and Edward Boyd, The Daily Telegraph
    Subscriber only

    The reaction has been condemned by legendary 2UE and 2GB program director John Brennan who said: “The radio world has gone mad.”

    He warned Macquarie’s bosses to be careful before silencing Jones: “Alan Jones is bigger than the brand. Wake up to that fact. The station too shouldn’t be Labor or Liberal. We should be shouting we’re Australians. That is how we see the news. That is our edge. Many won’t be satisfied until all conservative voices are silenced throughout the Macquarie Network.”

    John Brennan is a voice that radio people ignore at their peril.

  78. C.L.

    No flies on this Melbourne immigrant:

    Youth who bashed two female cops walks free after saying he can ‘get away with anything’ because he’s black.

    A man who bashed two female cops and threatened to kill them before telling police he wouldn’t get locked up because he’s black has walked free from jail.

    Yak Dut was pursued by the female police officers when they saw him driving a Volkswagen with a missing wheel in February last year in Mill Park, near Melbourne.

    Dut, then 21, stopped outside his house in South Morang and assaulted the officers so violently they were rushed to hospital.

    Following his arrest, he threatened to hunt the women down and kill them with their own guns.

    Dut was confident he would avoid jail because he’s Kenyan-born with dark skin.

    ‘I will get away with anything because I’m black. I will play the race card,’ he told police…

    The 22-year-old has been given a two year community corrections order and 150 hours community service, The Herald Sun reported.

    Judge Wendy Wilmoth said Dut’s age was a main factor in her sentencing.

    ‘It is widely recognised that the rehabilitation of a young person is of great importance to the community,’ she said.

    ‘A lengthy prison term would do nothing to enhance those prospects, particularly given that you have already spent 18 months in custody.’

    During his sentencing hearing the female officers, aged 36 and 57, broke down while recounting the events.

  79. vr

    How faith was lost on judgment day for a state legal system

    he 2-1 Victorian Court of Appeal dismissal of George Pell’s appeal against his sexual offences convictions may settle Pell’s guilt in the eyes of the law, but this contested judgment cannot constitute an enduring settlement or convincing argument in relation to Pell’s guilt.

    It is an extraordinary judgment. The power, logic and suasion lies in the 200-page minority judgment by Mark Weinberg, a former commonwealth director of public prosecutions and the most experienced of the three judges in criminal law. Weinberg’s dissent is long and closely reasoned. Weinberg has ensured that grave doubts about Pell’s guilt will not be dissipated by the 2-1 verdict against him.

    Weinberg has undermined the assumptions of the prosecution case as accepted by Chief Justice Anne Ferguson and Justice Chris Maxwell, president of the Court of Appeal. Given this minority judgment, Pell’s legal team is likely to take recourse to the High Court.

    In upholding Pell’s appeal and in the arguments he made, Weinberg raises the implication an innocent man is being convicted and this, in turn, raises far wider questions. Can the public have faith in the criminal justice system of Victoria? The majority case, obviously, must be accepted. But a reading of the entire judgment suggests the majority case is flawed and less convincing than the minority.

    The Pell trial has never been about the egregious crimes of the Catholic Church in relation to sexual abuse of children. It is about only one issue: whether Pell is a sexual predator. Yet these two elements seem difficult, almost impossible, to separate, and this tension seems embedded in the legal process and Court of Appeal decision.

  80. Gab

    Cdl Pell’s financial reforms at the Vatican have largely been reversed by those who will take the closest interest in his case in when it comes to Rome.

    https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/analysis-pell-and-the-politics-of-rome-65831

  81. Snoopy

    Dut was confident he would avoid jail because he’s Kenyan-born with dark skin.

    Dissembling scrote. Dut is a Sudanese Dinka tribe name.

  82. C.L.

    “A feminist critique of compulsory heterosexual orientation for women is long overdue,” Adrienne Rich wrote in her 1980 feminist classic “Compulsory Heterosexuality and Lesbian Existence.”

    You can see why Adrienne Rich was a lesbian.

  83. areff

    Queen has 4 kids: Charles, Anne, Andrew, and Edward.

    Ah, Countess, but does Prince Philip? Christopher Hitchens in the NYT, 1991:

    For a take on all this, I telephoned my old acquaintance Nigel Dempster, who does the royal-watch column for The Daily Mail and is regarded as the doyen of the Fleet Street society writers. “Take my advice, dear boy,” he said. “Get hold of a picture of Prince Andrew” — Fergie’s husband — “and then one of Lord Porchester at the same age. You’ll see that Prince Philip could never have been Andy’s father.” Lord Porchester is the Queen’s racing manager and tends her beloved stable of winners. He is a grandson of the Earl of Carnarvon, who opened King Tutankhamen’s tomb with Howard Carter. “If you mention this,” said the assiduous Dempster (who first broke the story that Margaret was the second Mrs. Thatcher), “I want full attribution.”

    Compare and contrast.

  84. stackja

    C.L.
    #3139752, posted on August 24, 2019 at 9:06 am

    Judge Wendy Wilmoth, a name to keep a eye on.
    Previous case

  85. Bruce

    Calli: “Seven trumpets “Glowball Emergency” of Amazon fires as top of the Climate Summit List.

    It’s the planet’s “lungs” dontcha know.”

    That lot has been getting a lot of air-time in this cycle.

    “Lungs of the Earth”? Crap and corruption, indeed. The top two feet of the world’s oceans are a much bigger O2 provider. Furthermore, when it’s night time in the rain forest, the trees go into reverse cycle, consuming oxygen and emitting CO2. Even bigger CO2 emitter is the huge amount of decaying bio-mass on the forest floor. Much of that is broken down via anaerobic process and generates a lot of the other “evil” gas, methane.

    The totalitarians are not known as sticklers for facts.

    If, as seems likely, these fires were deliberately lit, it was probably part of somebody’s “slash and burn”, low-grade agriculture project. The “evidence” shown on the “news” was certainly NOT some continent-wide inferno. If a large area is stripped of trees, sadly, any subsequent tropical downpours simply scour away the topsoil. Because of the rainfall, the soil in a rain forest is often marginal. The nutrient cycle relies largely on decaying bio-mass, not nutrients sequestered deep in the soil.

    Finally, it is the tail of the dry season there, about the ONLY window for a bit of creative burning. There is also not much point in clearing large swathes of the Amazon forests because a lot of it goes underwater every year in the spectacular wet season.

    The eco-nazis and the presstitutes are now bundling all this into their “take it or else” climate-change package. Just another bully-pulpit declaration of their “authority”.

  86. Cassie of Sydney

    “beyond personal faith”

    Wow…that’s a new one for the books……Gladhag is a disgrace.

  87. jupes

    ‘It is widely recognised that the rehabilitation of a young person is of great importance to the community,’ she said.

    It is even more widely recognised that the deportation of this young person is of even greater importance to the community.

    At any rate, a bloke who declares he won’t be sent to jail because he will “play the race card” and then doesn’t get sent to jail has precisely zero chance of rehabiliation has he you stupid bint.

  88. Snoopy

    No Justice: Judge Wendy Wilmoth says man who stuck his penis in 4yo girl’s mouth would be better served in the community

    A vile pervert who molested a young girl while her mother ducked inside for a few minutes is free to offend after being cut loose on a community order which doesn’t even call for any community work.

    County Court of Victoria Judge Wendy Wilmoth said she was protecting the community more effectively by releasing Michael John Tetley back into the community on a two year order.

  89. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    It is even more widely recognised that the deportation of this young person is of even greater importance to the community.

    Together with as many of his family, as the authorities can lay by the scruff of the neck and the seat of the pants..

  90. jupes

    County Court of Victoria Judge Wendy Wilmoth said she was protecting the community more effectively by releasing Michael John Tetley back into the community on a two year order.

    This woman is insane. Why hasn’t she been removed? Seriously.

  91. stackja

    Labor’s crackdown on protesters causes unrest within party

    First it was unions, now there are fears of other tensions erupting at this weekend’s Labor conference in Brisbane, with some saying a recent State Government policy turn goes against the party’s tradition.
    Domanii Cameron, Sarah Vogler, The Courier-Mail
    Subscriber only

    18 minutes ago

    TENSIONS over Annastacia Palaszczuk’s crackdown on climate change warriors are threatening to boil over at Labor’s State Conference amid concerns the proposal will erode the party’s tradition of defending the right to protest.

    The laws have been condemned as returning Queensland to a “police state”, but the Government has said they are necessary to protect the safety of the community and emergency services.

    A senior Left source said there were serious concerns about the Palaszscuk Government’s “tactics” describing protesters as “extremists”.

    “The ALP has a proud tradition of defending the civil liberties of ordinary citizens to protest, this is a dangerous erosion of those liberties, it’ll be trade unionists protesting against government that will be stopped and searched next,” they said.

    They said they were anticipating a resolution at the conference.

    Coal mining looks set to be discussed several times this weekend, with members to vote on a motion that the ALP commit to maintaining Queensland’s status as a mining powerhouse.

    The Courier-Mail can reveal the Maranoa and Groom branches of the party have also mooted a motion calling for the monitoring of Adani’s coal mine after the Government signed off on its environmental approvals in the wake of the May federal election drubbing.

    The motion calls for the party to continue to monitor Adani’s ongoing mining activities to ensure the company employs local workers, limits the use of 457 visas, invests in local infrastructure and “pays their fair share of royalties and taxes owed to Queenslanders”, among other things.

    The Courier-Mail has also obtained what appears to be a guidebook for would-be protesters.

    The five-page document lists steps on how activists should talk to media and how to shoot video during protests.

    The document references Extinction Rebellion, but the group yesterday denied it was theirs.

    The document urges protesters to not talk about action plans to the media and to not share personal criminal history “that is not related to civil disobedience”.

  92. dover_beach

    Premier Gladys Berejiklian says she votes beyond personal faith on matters of conscience

    That makes no sense. Don’t matters of conscience arise precisely because of ‘personal faith’?

  93. stackja

    Dennis Rostron, 55, granted parole 33 years after killing five family members, including his two children
    CRAIG DUNLOP, Court Reporter, NT News
    August 23, 2019 3:57pm
    Subscriber only

    ONE of the Territory’s worst mass murderers, Dennis Rostron, has been granted parole more than 33 years after he murdered five family members, including his two young children.

    Rostron, now 55, was in 1988 sentenced to life in jail after a jury found him guilty of murdering his wife, Cecily, his two children Preston, 2, and Zarack, 1, his father-in-law, Dick Murrumurru, and Dick’s wife, Dolly, at Molgawo outstation near Maningrida.

    At the time, a life sentence came with no prospect for parole, but in 2013 Justice Judith Kelly fixed Rostron’s non-parole period at 28 years.

    In 2013, Rostron said: “Over the years I have been in prison I have always thought how old my sons would be when I see families visiting other prisoners and I think I don’t have a wife and children because of me.”

    Rostron’s mother, who he saw during his ten days on the run in West Arnhem land, was so saddened by her son’s crimes she walked off into the bush and was never seen again.

  94. stackja

    Sarah Paino killer driver back behind bars after breaching parole

    UPDATED: On August 6, the teenager convicted of manslaughter over the 2016 death of pregnant Hobart mother Sarah Paino was granted parole. Today, he is back behind bars.
    CHANEL KINNIBURGH, Mercury
    Subscriber only

    August 23, 2019 9:42pm

    THE killer driver responsible for the death of pregnant Hobart mother Sarah Paino is back behind bars less than three weeks after being granted parole.

    Ms Paino’s father, Michael, told the Mercury he was informed the 19-year-old had been “taken back into custody for a breach of parole” yesterday afternoon.

    Tasmania Police confirmed he had not been arrested or charged with any new offences.

    It is not clear when he will be allowed back out on the streets again.

    His return to prison came less than 24 hours after the Mercury published a story detailing the offender’s behaviour behind bars, as well as the Parole Board’s reasons for allowing him to be released.

    “This breach of parole just goes to show what kind of person he is,” Mr Paino said yesterday.

    “Not showing any remorse just adds fuel to the fire of how disappointed we are in the justice system for failing to go the distance in regards to keeping this guy off the streets.

    “We got a life sentence and he’s only served three and a half years. How is that fair?”
    The teenager was sentenced as an adult to five years’ imprisonment with a non-parole period of 2½ years after pleading guilty to one count of manslaughter.

  95. Crossie

    “I feel my decision has to be beyond my personal faith and what I believe is important for the broader community,” she said.

    So much for her faith and conviction, I would think something I think is deeply wrong for me would also be wrong for everyone else.

    You never see this sort of equivocation on the left, they are completely convinced that what they think is good is good for everyone.

  96. Crossie

    Premier Gladys Berejiklian says she votes beyond personal faith on matters of conscience

    That makes no sense. Don’t matters of conscience arise precisely because of ‘personal faith’?

    The more she talks the more feet she puts in her mouth.

  97. stackja

    dover_beach
    #3139769, posted on August 24, 2019 at 9:25 am

    Yes, Glad talks ‘nonsense’. Why? What is real reason? One day we may know.

  98. candy

    Gladys B. votes on what she thinks will keep her in power. She miscalculated on the abortion of babies of undesired gender issue, thinking it was a great thing and public would love the abortion for any reason at any time, and now has to say she’s a serious conservative and it horrifies her.

    She’s telling porkies. No shame.

  99. Cassie of Sydney

    “feelthebern
    #3139726, posted on August 24, 2019 at 8:32 am
    David Rowe’s second cartoon is anti semitic.
    What a fucking disgrace.”

    Yep…putrid fucking disgrace….actually it’s a cartoon that Julius Streicher would have loved. I am going to follow this up and lodge a complaint. That cartoon is not funny. Only an anti-Semite would like it…..and we don’t have to name names to know just who they are. …the type who call Orthodox Joooos “religious extremists”.

  100. Zatara

    I have no doubt the judges acted without favour but is it possible that fear of social consequence and media attention could make a decision to leave one old man in custody easier than facing the storm?

    I had a similar thought Gez, but mine was about the juror’s fear for themselves and their families had they returned the “improper” verdict.

    They would have been doxxed immediately and their lives turned hellish.

  101. Woolfe

    Gerard also wrote:

    If the Pell verdict stands, a responsible parent or career counsellor should consider advising a young man not to enter an occupation or profession that requires interacting with unknown or known children.

  102. Tom

    I am reliably informed via coffee shop gossip this morning that the Amazon fires have used up 20 % of the worlds oxygen in the last week.

    FMD, nzhousewife. There’s now a world of information at our fingertips via the internet and people are still attracted like flies to the shite.

  103. Crossie

    During his sentencing hearing the female officers, aged 36 and 57, broke down while recounting the events.

    What was a 57 year old woman doing on the beat? I don’t think even male police officers that old are on patrol duty.

  104. Nick

    The head of one of Australia’s top universities fears the country is veering towards a new White Australia mindset amid the escalating debate over Chinese influence on campus and in the wider community.

    Sydney University vice-chancellor Michael Spence said some voices were dangerously close to arguing anyone who supported the Chinese government had no place on a university campus.

    “That’s just frightening as well as kind of dumb,” he told the Herald.

    So:
    1. Now a University is concerned about voices on campus ?
    2. After having willingly taken Chinese dollars, it’s ‘white Australis’ that’s the problem, despite putt8ngbup with the issue for years ?

  105. Crossie

    I had a similar thought Gez, but mine was about the juror’s fear for themselves and their families had they returned the “improper” verdict.

    They would have been doxxed immediately and their lives turned hellish.

    How did we get here where the social media Stasi are now our masters?

  106. stackja

    2018 Liberal Party of Australia leadership spills
    From Wikipedia

    Leadership spills of the federal parliamentary leadership of the Liberal Party of Australia were held on 21 and 24 August 2018 and were called by the incumbent leader of the party, Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull.

    Tempus fugit!

  107. calli

    That makes no sense. Don’t matters of conscience arise precisely because of ‘personal faith’?

    Only if you have a functioning conscience.

    This one may be seared beyond recovery.

  108. Crossie

    Woolfe
    #3139781, posted on August 24, 2019 at 9:37 am
    Gerard also wrote:

    If the Pell verdict stands, a responsible parent or career counsellor should consider advising a young man not to enter an occupation or profession that requires interacting with unknown or known children.

    Even Gillette have worked that out and are now using a firefighter in their advertising. I expect most men would rather face fire every day than the social minefield.

  109. Snoopy

    Sydney University vice-chancellor Michael Spence said some voices were dangerously close to arguing anyone who supported the Chinese government had no place on a university campus.

    Didn’t Spence decide that the study of Western civilisation had no place on a university campus?

  110. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    The unicorn rainbow fairy floss ration has been doubled.

    I dreamed about fairy floss last night.
    What does that mean? A portent of doom, or endless delight?

  111. thefrollickingmole

    Talib is god…again.

    Nassim Nicholas Taleb
    @nntaleb
    Follow Follow @nntaleb
    More Nassim Nicholas Taleb Retweeted Evan Kirstel
    “Every dollar made by a former politician or civil servant thanks to the fame and connections imparted by the office belongs to the taxpayer. “

    PRINCIPIA POLITICA

  112. Entropy

    Snoopy
    #3139764, posted on August 24, 2019 at 9:19 am
    No Justice: Judge Wendy Wilmoth says man who stuck his penis in 4yo girl’s mouth would be better served in the community

    A vile pervert who molested a young girl while her mother ducked inside for a few minutes is free to offend after being cut loose on a community order which doesn’t even call for any community work.

    County Court of Victoria Judge Wendy Wilmoth said she was protecting the community more effectively by releasing Michael John Tetley back into the community on a two year order.

    If someone did that to my daughter and that is the kind of justice she would receive, one night as the perp arrived home he just might happen to find some cricket bat justice to the back of the head.

  113. stackja

    Mater
    #3139784, posted on August 24, 2019 at 9:40 am

    Another reason for his ‘problems’?
    One day will we ever get the full story?
    How many remember Lindy?

  114. Crossie

    Sydney University vice-chancellor Michael Spence said some voices were dangerously close to arguing anyone who supported the Chinese government had no place on a university campus.

    They are perfectly happy in declaring that our own democratic government has no place on a university campus but the Chinese communist government telling them what to do is hunky dory.

    Idiots.

  115. thefrollickingmole

    Weird days.

    Pell sentenced to jail for a crime alleged by one person decades later with some fairly implausible bits.

    Pervert caught forcing his cock down a 4 year olds throat gets a 2 year suspended sentence.

    In the same state.

  116. Dr Fred Lenin

    Mark M ,my late mother and her second husband lived in Whaddon house ,Belgravia ,Lndons top area in the 60s ,I have a print out of the voters roll ,on the roll in the same block of luxury apartments is one Richard Starkey (Ringo Star) and Brian Epstein the Beatles manager , relaties say they used to go to parties in the apartments and the Beatles would be there .
    One f the apartmnts was sold recently for 2.785 ,ooo pounds ,they are huge and palatial . A one bedroom broom closet in Belgravia costs 700,000 pounds !

  117. stackja

    Five teens wanted by police over alleged Moorebank crime spree

    Three teenagers are in hospital and another five on the run after allegedly crashing a stolen ute at Moorebank in Sydney’s west. Police were initially called to reports of building material on fire at a local park.
    Ava Benny-Morrison, Crime Reporter, The Sunday Telegraph
    Subscriber only

    12 minutes ago

    The allegedly stolen Toyota Hilux overturned on Junction Road, Moorebank with eight teens inside. Picture: Gordon McComiskie

    ..

    The pair had to be released by emergency services before being taken to Liverpool Hospital.

    The alleged driver, also 16, was taken to Liverpool Hospital for mandatory drug and alcohol testing

    While three teens who were in the car have been identified, police believe another five, aged between 16 and 17, are still on the run.

    Parents? Teens known to police?

  118. stackja

    thefrollickingmole
    #3139798, posted on August 24, 2019 at 9:55 am

    Yes! And how many other such stories go under-reported?

  119. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Judges we are told are supposed to carry out their duty without Fear or Favour.
    I have no doubt the judges acted without favour but is it possible that fear of social consequence and media attention could make a decision to leave one old man in custody easier than facing the storm?
    You would hope not.

    Yes. Fear I suspect was a driver there. I don’t accept the argument that the affirming duo were doing it in such a feeble manner because they wished to kick the judgement up to the High Court rather than be embroiled in the brouhaha themselves. They simply didn’t want to face the baying mobs and did ‘their best’ with the poor material they had, displaying inter alia how unsuitable their backgrounds were to the task. They opted expediently for a short-term solution. Sadly for them, by their ridiculously ‘imaginative’ judgement they will suffer the greater and longer-lived shame of having put their names to something that many of their legal colleagues as well as the informed populace adjudge to be a legal disgrace. An unenviable situation.

  120. Roger

    Heh:

    Sydney trains CEO says he is working to bring the system “into the 20th century”.

    Slip of the tongue or a subtle dig at his political masters?

  121. bespoke

    Entropy
    #3139795, posted on August 24, 2019 at 9:51 am

    +1

  122. DrBeauGan

    I’m scheduled to go and see Maria at her house tomorrow afternoon. Saturday, here. This will involve going by taxi to a place the location of which is a mystery. I sure hope the taxi driver is fully instructed by Maria, because he’s not going to get anything useful from me.

    I don’t know what to take her except some bottles of water. Wine looks like a bad idea in the circs.

    She got pills from the quack, what sort I don’t know. I shall try to find out. This is about as close as I want to get to the Cuban medical system.

  123. Roger

    After having willingly taken Chinese dollars, it’s ‘white Australia’ that’s the problem, despite putting up with the issue for years ?

    He who pays the piper…

  124. Cassie of Sydney

    “Crossie
    #3139788, posted on August 24, 2019 at 9:46 am

    How did we get here where the social media Stasi are now our masters?”

    That’s a good point…I would argue that we on the right have allowed this…..we don’t tend to use social media….particularly the ever vacuous twitter….and we don’t fight. The left….particularly the hard left….have a total monopoly on twitter….which is why it is such a cesspit of hate, abuse, vitriol and venom. Organisations like Sleeping Midgets use twitter to ferment and spread their confected outrage…whether it be directed at Sky News or Radio 2GB….they are a small minority of people but because they are active on twitter…they know how to use the social media platform to give the impression that they represent and think for a lot of people…we know this is simply and palpably untrue but corporations, companies and many individuals have ceded the public square to these squalid platforms. That’s how the charge against Jarratt came about…….that perpetual disgrace…a woman called “Dick Tracey” (a perfect name….thanks Mark Latham) used twitter to spruik her dubious cause of “Metoo” here in Oz in late 2017 and early 2018…..it was a deliberate witch hunt to drum up shady and false allegations. And Dick Tracey….well she gets off scott free….why isn’t she punished for using twitter to ferment and spread false allegations? Where is the personal accountability for Dick Tracey…as far as I am concerned she should be run out of town and never given another media job in her life. But she’ll pop up again…..whereas Jarratt’s career is probably dead and buried. The fact that the NSW police and DPP proceeded to investigate and charge Jarratt is in itself a disgrace….they should have thrown it out….but even our own police force and judicial system fall prey to twitter. And Pell….it’s the same thing…as someone commented on this blog yesterday….George Pell should never have been charged.

  125. stackja

    County court: Kyle Elston avoids more jail time over violent Geelong burglary
    A YOUNG man who broke into a 93-year-old Geelong man’s home and viciously bashed his intellectually disabled son has avoided further time in prison.
    AAP
    Subscriber only
    December 19, 2017 9:35am

    Judge Wilmoth said Elston had an intellectual disability and a brain impairment, with his “complex” case deeming him unsuitable for more prison time.

    The defendant also committed another burglary in September last year at a different home, stealing a TV, iPad, computer, two cameras and two sets of car keys.

    He was sentenced to 82 days’ imprisonment, which he has already served, and a community corrections order during which he must undergo drug abuse treatment and complete a literacy and numeracy program.

    Violent offender Kyle Elston has avoided more jail time. Picture: Facebook

  126. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Dr BG

    Wear a chastity belt for your kidneys, please. Also, pre-tape a burner phone to your hand.

    ——————————————————-

    27/08/19

    BREAKING NEWS

    Aussie sex tourist who sleeps in special oxygen tent wakes up to find himself with no kidneys, kept alive by dialysis. More from our correspondent, George Fungus:

  127. Ivan Denisovich

    Didn’t Spence decide that the study of Western civilisation had no place on a university campus?

    He’s fully woke, proposing race targets at Sydney Uni faculties. Diversity is paramount except, of course, diversity of opinion:

    MICHAEL Spence gets $1.45 million a year to run Sydney University, so I was surprised to find he still needs my help to do his job.

    He may be vice-chancellor, but Spence apparently has no idea who is organising the protests to stop conservatives from meeting and speaking at his university.

    He must be too busy to watch them on TV, or read them sounding off on Facebook and in his students’ Honi Soit magazine.

    He must be also be so stuck in his office that he doesn’t see their posters plastered over his campus.

    Nor can he find his security people to tell him which protesters they were wrestling with when psychologist Bettina Arndt tried to give a lecture this month questioning his university’s alleged “rape culture”.

    Either that, or Spence just doesn’t care that his university is getting a name as one of the worst for turning a blind eye to thuggery, as long as it’s thuggery from the Left.

    https://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/andrew-bolt/helping-spence-find-the-bullies-at-his-uni/news-story/6e25277bffcea933ff70d7fe0c7ec708

  128. Roger

    I remember the good old days…when Leftists in the halls of academe used to mock our alleged subservience to devious foreign powers.

    Now they’re pushing each other out of the way to get to lick the boots of the Chinese.

  129. Mater

    Another reason for his ‘problems’?

    Pell ticks a lot of boxes (homosexuality, is lam, climate change, etc).
    Every arm of the lefts arsenal was arrayed against him.
    At the risk of being called a conspiracy theorist (again), I’ll just say how uncomfortable it must be to be the focus of such a diverse range of ideologues.

  130. stackja

    Nurses join police during mental health incidents in NSW

    Specialist nurses are working with frontline police during dangerous, volatile situations which involve mental health patients with the new trial proving “invaluable” for emergency officials.
    Angira Bharadwaj, The Daily Telegraph
    Subscriber only

    August 23, 2019 10:30pm

    Exclusive: Highly trained nurses are being called to the frontline of dangerous police operations in a bid to diffuse volatile situations with mental health patients.

    The Daily Telegraph can reveal that a trial began in January in the St George area with a nurse now accompanying police to any job where mental health is likely to be an issue.

    The Police Ambulance And Clinical Early Response Project was trialled between January and June this year with the project such a success it has been continued.

    ..

    “Nurses are able to de-escalate the situation on the spot. Whereas police will normally take someone with a mental health issue to emergency departments that are already under pressure.

    “Nurses are able to understand the trauma of a patient and they get a lot of training on handling situations in a way to keep everyone safe.”

    In Victoria a similar program was implemented in 2012 with research indicating that bringing nurses to the front line reduced the use of Tasers on mentally ill people.

  131. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Sydney trains CEO says he is working to bring the system “into the 20th century”.

    That might involve not using the oldest rolling stock in a modern city, actually cleaning carriages, having working A/C and ventilation, and amongst other things, getting rid of the wooden (!) escalators around Wynyard, the ugly heritage chain link at City Hall, realising that buses are not trains after 1 am until 7 am and actually building the damned lines Bradfield proposed…over a century ago.

  132. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Mater
    #3139817, posted on August 24, 2019 at 10:17 am

    Another reason for his ‘problems’?

    Pell ticks a lot of boxes (homosexuality, is lam, climate change, etc).

    WRONG

    Abortion abortion abortion abortion abortion abortion….

  133. Win

    ABC children’s channel 22 usually unashamedly plageristic in content are having an uniquely ABC Play School vileness in the form of welcome to new arrivals ,a pregnant presenter and suitably cute baby and Good By to “special friends”. Saying good bye we bury the family dog and visit the pound for a new puppy then view a desiccated dried up ancient mariner lying in hospital bed. Yes folks that’s us just a friend to be buried along with the dogs and chooks and budgerigar.

  134. Cassie of Sydney

    “Mater
    #3139817, posted on August 24, 2019 at 10:17 am
    Another reason for his ‘problems’?

    Pell ticks a lot of boxes (homosexuality, is lam, climate change, etc).
    Every arm of the lefts arsenal was arrayed against him.
    At the risk of being called a conspiracy theorist (again), I’ll just say how uncomfortable it must be to be the focus of such a diverse range of ideologues.”

    Yep….and same with Abbott….he ticked all the boxes…but both Pell and Abbott always refused to get down and dirty in dealing with the arsenal………you simply can’t turn the other cheek.

  135. Crossie

    Specialist nurses are working with frontline police during dangerous, volatile situations which involve mental health patients with the new trial proving “invaluable” for emergency officials.

    I would have though tasers would be more useful.

  136. Roger

    Sydney trains CEO says he is working to bring the system “into the 20th century”.

    That might involve…

    Capital investment.

    Hello, Gladys!

  137. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    “That’s just frightening as well as kind of dumb,” he told the Herald.

    Vice Chancellor, many of your graduates, myself included, have been worried for a while now about things going on at Sydney University that are ‘frightening as well as kind of dumb’. Bettina Arndt’s treatment on your campus, hardly rigorously condemned by you, was frightening indeed. And your advertising about ‘unlearning’ was … umm … ‘kind of dumb’. It told the world you intended to teach political indoctrination. As did your caving in to Marxist disapproval of a magnificent endowment with which to teach fairly and without Marxist bias the history and great works of Western Civilisation.

    My hope is that your Chinse government funded Confucius Centre is as unbiased and apolitical as the Western Civilisation course would have been. Perhaps you should start to take the temperature there to reassure concerned graduates. And also gather your Chinese students to reassure them of Australia’s commitment to democracy and the protection of free speech for all.

  138. DrBeauGan

    And Pell….it’s the same thing…as someone commented on this blog yesterday….George Pell should never have been charged

    Completely agree. And those two appeal judges should be sacked for incompetence.

    You probably meant foment not ferment, Cassie.

  139. Percy Popinjay

    I am reliably informed via coffee shop gossip this morning that the Amazon fires have used up 20 % of the worlds oxygen in the last week.

    At this rate 91.3% will soon be gone. I’ve also been reliably informed (by a mate’s Brazilian girlfriend) that the Bolsonaro lit all the fires himself, hot on the heels of issuing a decree regulating the proles’ bowel movements and denying water and power to the university where she works. No one ever accused South Americans of being stark raving bonkers for no good reason.

    BTW, mighty effort by the poms last night. Magnificent stuff.

  140. dovr_beach

    Weird days.

    Pell sentenced to jail for a crime alleged by one person decades later with some fairly implausible bits.

    Pervert caught forcing his cock down a 4 year olds throat gets a 2 year suspended sentence.

    In the same state.

    The second fella didn’t catch Ass. Commissioner Ashton in a lie during a parliamentary enquiry and embarrass him.

  141. jo

    Pity Elston didn’t break into the judges home and beat the crap out of him. He’d be in prison for a long time as we can’t have the elite being bashed, especially the judiciary.

  142. Cassie of Sydney

    “You probably meant foment not ferment, Cassie.”

    Quite right….apologies.

  143. Roger

    Completely agree. And those two appeal judges should be sacked for incompetence.

    It’s Victoria. They’ll get gongs.

  144. jupes

    I am reliably informed via coffee shop gossip this morning that the Amazon fires have used up 20 % of the worlds oxygen in the last week.

    Beaugy you may want to check my maths.

    The atmosphere consists of 20% oxygen. If 20% of the world’s oxygen is consumed in the fires, that would leave only 16% oxygen in the atmosphere. I reckon that would be a noticeable amount, even in day to day tasks let alone sporting events.

  145. dovr_beach

    Weird days.

    The second fella didn’t catch Ass. Commissioner Ashton in a lie during a parliamentary enquiry and embarrass him.

  146. dovr_beach

    Weird days.

    The second fella didn’t catch Ass. Commissioner Ashton in gilding the lily during a parliamentary enquiry and embarrass him.

  147. dover_beach

    Weird days.

    The second fella didn’t catch Ass. Commissioner Ashton in gilding the lily during a parliamentary enquiry and embarrass him.

  148. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    It’s Victoria. They’ll get gongs.

    In Victoria, they and their spouses will get appointed in different jurisdictions and one will be made vice-regal, then they will reward with three to four absurdly high paying pension plans until they both pop their clogs.

    “Australia excels at legal corruption”

  149. jupes

    The head of one of Australia’s top universities fears the country is veering towards a new White Australia mindset amid the escalating debate over Chinese influence on campus and in the wider community.

    Far better to have a White Australia mindset than a Chicom mindset.

  150. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    A lot of Indian migrants who come here love the joint and are very happy they don’t have to put up with caste bullshit anymore.

    As a large migrant group of dark brown people, what would the VC think of that?

    “Great! Those stupid migrants don’t realise we have a class system based on political patronage!”

  151. areff

    George Pell should never have been charged

    You should have seen the committal hearing, when Milligan’s ABC Radio cobber Belinda Wallington did everything she could from the bench to foil Richter’s questioning, help a slipshod reporter “decipher” what were evidently indecipherable notes, and make sure the cardinal got what VicPol and the Andrews governments corruptocrats think he deserves.

    Need it be said that Wallington is another Rob Hulls appointment?

  152. Roger

    This place is going to rock when India & China go to war.

  153. dover_beach

    Stuart Morris, QC, right, has been appointed to the Supreme Court and will become the new president of the Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal later this year. Mr Morris’s appointment was one of five senior legal appointments announced by Attorney-General Rob Hulls yesterday. Roy Punshon, SC, and magistrate Wendy Wilmoth were made judges of the County Court and solicitors Belinda Wallington and Andrew Cappel became magistrates.

    We should have guessed.

  154. cohenite

    How could you post that cohenitte? Poor form indeed.

    What, michelle having a dick? I agree.

    In other news as well as those motley bastards, sleeping dickheads there’s another activist group after conservative broadcasters, especially Alan Jones: Mad Fucking Witches . I kid you not; but note, the article is from the guardian.

  155. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Yes folks that’s us just a friend to be buried along with the dogs and chooks and budgerigar.

    Win, our children had a very suburban upbringing replete with an ever-changing menagerie in the wilds of Sydney’s Killara. The back garden and even shrubby parts of the adjacent park became full of little shrines to departed dogs, rabbits, guinea pigs, mice, hamsters (not Siberian) and various birds. Anything with fur or feathers that we purchased, were given or that wandered in was immediately adopted by one or other of our four. Although now I come to think of it our shrines (thankfully biodegradable or secreted by me to the rubbish after a decent period of mourning) included one large loved goldfish, two Siamese fighters who died a mutual death in warfare, and some of Australia’s unique reptiles who’d moved in and around the swamp we called a pond, so it wasn’t just mammals who made the grade. Even the ant farm that got too close to Hairy’s garden spraying was briefly memorialized.

    Thankfully we moved from there immediately after the last of our children completed the HSC.
    Otherwise I might be mournfully staring out wondering what place was allocated for us. 🙂

  156. Providing defendants with the option of having a trial by judge alone did not come about by accident. Rather, parliaments decided that in certain situations a defendant could not be guaranteed a fair outcome if their guilt was assessed by a jury. Trial by judge alone usually occurs when there is a high-profile defendant and/or a particularly heinous crime and/or much negative pre-trial media coverage.

    FMD.

    Consider, a magistrate had no probs with committing for trial, 2 trial judges raised the finger with a soft signal of OUT. 2 out of 3 review judges confirmed the on-field decision.
    Judge alone, would see GP sent down for 50 years.

  157. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    dover_beach
    #3139852, posted on August 24, 2019 at 10:45 am

    Stuart Morris, QC, right, has been appointed to the Supreme Court and will become the new president of the Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal later this year. Mr Morris’s appointment was one of five senior legal appointments announced by Attorney-General Rob Hulls yesterday. Roy Punshon, SC, and magistrate Wendy Wilmoth were made judges of the County Court and solicitors Belinda Wallington and Andrew Cappel became magistrates.

    We should have guessed.

    Poor old Pyrmonter – a libertarian good old boy and general good guy yesterday didn’t get how much political patronage is involved in judicial appointments.

    There’s the example he ought to see.

  158. Sydney trains CEO says he is working to bring the system “into the 20th century”.

    That might involve…

    Capital investment.

    Typo, I presume.
    Replace investment with punishment.

  159. 1735099

    As a very special treat, I’m presenting, from behind the paywall, Phillip Adam’s piece in today’s Weekend Oz. If this creates sufficient outrage, I will endeavour to make it a weekly feature –

    Driving through Melbourne’s western suburbs, I saw an elephant being washed from trunk to tail by its trainer, hose in one hand, broom in the other. A lifelong addict of the traditional Australian circus, I stopped to say hello.
    The trainer clambered from beneath the beast and, without formal greeting, went straight to the all-important advice. “Never, NEVER touch an elephant’s vagina,” he said solemnly. “It drives them crazy.”
    And, dear reader, I never have. It was wise advice and I urge you to follow it.
    Mind you, neither opportunity nor danger have presented themselves. Circuses no longer have elephants. Their banishment played a major role in the disappearance of tent shows little and big — right up to the mighty Ringling Bros and Barnum & Bailey. Rightly described as the Greatest Show on Earth, over the years it was home to hundreds of elephants — including the original Jumbo, who gave his name to all sorts of big things including Boeing’s flying behemoth.
    I’ve always been fascinated by Australian circuses, with their intermarried dynasties
    — Wirth’s, Bullen’s, Ashton, Perry Bros, Silvers, Sole Bros, Lennon Bros and the rest. Some are still touring but few have animal acts, not even equestrian. Start writing your indignant emails now, but if you want to attack animal cruelty, start with industrial agriculture’s feedlots, those concentration way to cans of dog food. And if you disapprove of training animals to perform in the circus, why not attack the posh pretentions of dressage, the equine ballet included in the Olympics?
    I’m sure some would also ban the training of dogs to muster sheep and cattle, whilst ignoring guide dogs, or those sniffing luggage at airports. But the interaction of animals and humans is ancient. As ancient
    as riding horses into battle, or harnessing buffaloes to the plough. As ancient as Egypt. As the circus.
    I knew many in our circus dynasties, enjoying friendships with famous clowns and performers — the likes of Jonas, the “dent act” who, hanging from a trapeze, dangled spinning women from his mouth. Until his teeth failed him.
    There was something poignant in the way the Australian circuses would criss-cross the nation erecting their big tops in towns big and small. It’s where the term “one night stand” originated. Australia’s circus people shared the good and bad times, suffering from drought as much as the farmers, seeing their tents destroyed by wind and fire. It was a symbiotic relationship, and farming families looked forward to the circus coming to town, as anticipated an event as Christmas. Brin much needed magic into tough lives.
    The small, foot-sore circuses still on the road haven’t one elephant between them, let alone a lion to tame. So they struggle to offer a fraction of the glamour of such mighty shows as the animal-free Cirque du Soleil. Yet I’m still an addict.
    A few days ago, a circus with an unfamiliar name arrived at the local Muswellbrook showgrounds and I determined to bring a few kids. Only to find that, like so many of its famous predecessors, it had already disappeared. A victim of drought? Changing attitudes? No elephants? I suspect (at least for those of us in the bush who can get NBN) another victim of Netflix. I’d prefer the net beneath the trapeze act.

  160. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    It’s where the term “one night stand” originated.

    The fuck outta here.

  161. C.L.

    The head of one of Australia’s top universities fears the country is veering towards a new White Australia mindset amid the escalating debate over Chinese influence on campus and in the wider community.

    Sydney University vice-chancellor Michael Spence said some voices were dangerously close to arguing anyone who supported the Chinese government had no place on a university campus.

    “That’s just frightening as well as kind of dumb,” he told the Herald.

    Read like a pro … From a briefing paper prepared for Spence in Beijing.

  162. Roger

    When did The Ashes become “The Men’s Ashes”?

    What next, ABC…female diggers on the Kokoda track?

  163. Roger

    “That’s just frightening as well as kind of dumb,” he told the Herald.

    “Pig-headed and unintellectual”, the chief political editor at Channel 10 chimed in.

  164. Cassie of Sydney

    Pell’s hesitation in returning from the Vatican was because he knew….HE KNEW….he wouldn’t get a fair trial. Who could forget the hysteria.. from their ABC……the assorted twitter scum….that rodent Minchin’s song……(and that’s an insult to all the rodents living in the sewers of all the cities on this planet). But being the noble person he is…he thought that he would return to the place of his birth and place his fate in the hands of a corrupted police force and judicial system. He obviously has great faith….I always admire people who have such faith…..I don’t….I would have stayed in Rome. And every day I wish George Pell had stayed in Rome.

    And as for the twitter scum….I hope and pray that one day they….or someone they love…is falsely accused of a crime that they didn’t commit….and I will sit back and laugh and laugh and laugh.

  165. C.L.

    Judge Wendy Wilmoth says man who stuck his penis in 4yo girl’s mouth would be better served in the community

    A vile pervert who molested a young girl while her mother ducked inside for a few minutes is free to offend after being cut loose on a community order which doesn’t even call for any community work.

    County Court of Victoria Judge Wendy Wilmoth said she was protecting the community more effectively by releasing Michael John Tetley back into the community on a two year order.

    Wilmoth should be arrested and charged.
    Moving on a child molester to another location is a criminal offence.

  166. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    I’m surprised Aaron Clarey hasn’t been kicked off Linked In as he rips into low IQ MBAs.

    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/1099-superior-race-aaron-clarey

  167. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    What next, ABC…female diggers on the Kokoda track?

    QWERTY diggers at Coral and Balmoral?

  168. dover_beach

    Read like a pro … From a briefing paper prepared for Spence in Beijing.

    Now to be forever known as Beijing Spence.

  169. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Victoria needs to make Betty King their State Governor.

    She won’t take shit off Dan Andrews.

  170. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Very interesting considering one of the charges against Pell (which, IIRC, failed)

    http://www5.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_act/cohrara2006433/s27.html

    CHARTER OF HUMAN RIGHTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES ACT 2006 – SECT 27
    Retrospective criminal laws

    (1) A person must not be found guilty of a criminal offence because of conduct that was not a criminal offence when it was engaged in.

  171. JC

    Frank Walker from National Tiles
    #3139867, posted on August 24, 2019 at 11:00 am

    I’m surprised Aaron Clarey hasn’t been kicked off Linked In as he rips into low IQ MBAs.

    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/1099-superior-race-aaron-clarey

    Frank, Our close friends daughter did a Stanford MBA. She works in the “wilderness” and refuses to work full time for any large corporation. Interesting how kids are making out in life.

  172. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Good Lord. Reading that, my comment above about pets, I realise I forgot to mention the cats. How could I exclude Smokey, the grey adventurer, not long with us at all, and after his sad demise, Lilly the Tailless White Manx with blue eyes, whom Hairy shoveled off the road one sad day, leaving only my little Burmese lady, my darling Zoe, who survived the killing fields of Killara to live another day in the gated lands of the Eastern suburbs. Zoe was expensively buried in more recent years, in a maintained pet graveyard, Hairy’s gesture to my desolation at her loss. No backyard would have been good enough for her, except perhaps the one we had sold. There was no backyard memorial either for our last little family doggie, faithful to the last, who also moved east with us. Hairy organized something for him, while I comforted four weeping young adults.

    Sometimes though, home burial suits. Samoan people by tradition have next to, or within, their home the graves of their loved ones, as do many other cultures. Even ours. In Australia’s Kimberley, Mary and Elizabeth Durack lie together in death as in life, in the relocated homestead of their clan, overlooking Lake Argyle, where their spirits can fly free or swim down to visit the flooded haunts from which the homestead was removed block by block. Many people spread the ashes of their loved ones over memorable places inflecting their lives. A Maori relative of mine kept the ashes of my niece, her daughter, on a shelf in her home, until it was inadvertently knocked off and the ashes broomed up. They now rest next to my mother’s ashes in a special wall niche cemetary.

  173. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    An indirect line of reasoning, re not being properly arraigned:

    CHARTER OF HUMAN RIGHTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES ACT 2006 – SECT 25
    Rights in criminal proceedings

    (1) A person charged with a criminal offence has the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law.

    (2) A person charged with a criminal offence is entitled without discrimination to the following minimum guarantees—

    S. 3(1) def. of discrimination amended by No. 16/2010 s. 209(Sch. items 1.2, 1.3) (as amended by No. 26/2011 s. 34(Sch. item 10.1)).

    “discrimination”, in relation to a person, means discrimination (within the meaning of the Equal Opportunity Act 2010 ) on the basis of an attribute set out in section 6 of that Act;

    EQUAL OPPORTUNITY ACT 2010 – SECT 9 Indirect discrimination
    EQUAL OPPORTUNITY ACT 2010 – SECT 9
    Indirect discrimination

    (1) Indirect discrimination occurs if a person imposes, or proposes to impose, a requirement, condition or practice—

    (a) that has, or is likely to have, the effect of disadvantaging persons with an attribute; and

    (b) that is not reasonable.

  174. Leo G

    The head of one of Australia’s top universities fears the country is veering towards a new White Australia mindset amid the escalating debate over Chinese influence on campus and in the wider community.

    The head of one of Australia’s top universities fears the escalating debate over Chinese influence on the heads of Australia’s top universities.

  175. feelthebern

    Depends if it’s a fly in, fly out MBA.
    Or a real one.
    Like one from Wharton.

  176. Delta A

    has anyone got news on Delta A?

    Hi, bespoke.

    Lurking mainly these days while I concentrate on rehab. My goal to be walking by Christmas seems in jeopardy as I’m struggling with wound-healing. Can’t proceed with prosthetic leg until the ‘shrinker’ has done it’s job – reducing the stump to required shape – and can’t proceed to shrinker until cut site is completely healed. (I still surprise myself talking in these terms: prior to the amputation I was blissfully ignorant of all this.)

    In the meantime, I’m fighting off withdrawal from all the tramadol so generously showered upon me during 8 months of agony. Still a tad loopy, but thankfully, no more pain. What a blessing!

    Hope you are well, and that your wife enjoys a full recovery from her illness.

  177. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    I am sure this has been posted before:

    Gillette Concedes They Got Woke Went Broke, CANCELS Social Justice Ads

  178. thefrollickingmole

    Can we accuse this article of being anti-S88etic based on its title??

    The Kochtopus: sprawling network keeps David Koch’s legacy thriving

    Consider this, nearly the only qualification to be labeled a nazi is to not sign on for open borders.

    The Kochs were iopen borders loons who nonetheless are branded as …nazis…

    As Lisa Graves, director of a new digital archive, Kochdocs.org, that tracks the brothers’ record, put it: “A substantial part of David Koch’s legacy was the utter distortion of American democracy, which should be based on one person, one vote but was grossly twisted when he used his vast wealth to buy himself an influence that was out of all proportion.”

    Swap the names to Soros and theyd wet their panties over the article.

  179. feelthebern

    Joan of Arc is on World Movies tonight.
    Historically incorrect & heretical, but a rip roaring moving from Luc Besson.

  180. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    the utter distortion of American democracy

    Yeah.

    Funding schools.

    Voter ID.

    Building the Keystone XL pipeline.

    The left say underfunding schools, voter fraud & stone age economics causing fewer jobs is normal and “democratic”.

  181. feelthebern

    The Koch brothers were whack jobs.
    But did some great things.
    But also did shit things.
    The further away from reality you live, the more crazy you are.
    Apparently Zuckerberg has a toilet that does analysis on all his urine & stool.

  182. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    When Philip Adams sticks to memory and country life I find him bearable. I bet he feeds his beloved dogs on tinned dog food sometimes too, as well as farmed meat.

    He can’t make up his mind whether he hates modern lefties or is one of them.
    Stuck in the past politically, an anachronism trying to suck up to the urban bugmen.

  183. Natural Instinct

    mh
    #3139698, posted on August 24, 2019 at 7:17 am
    Ruth Bader Ginsburg treated for malignant tumor on pancreas, Supreme Court says

    .
    Talk about ego and putting ones beliefs ahead of the public good. Someone this crook and old can’t do important paid work.
    If it was her own family business, fine. But she is not in that situation.
    .

    Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg has completed three weeks of radiation therapy at a New York City hospital to treat a malignant tumor on her pancreas, the court said Friday.
    .
    Ginsburg, 86, began radiation on Aug. 5 at Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center in New York and received treatment as an outpatient, the statement said. As part of her treatment, a bile duct stent was placed on her pancreas.
    .
    Ginsburg underwent lung cancer surgery in December and has had two previous bouts with cancer. She had colorectal cancer in 1999 and pancreatic cancer in 2009. While recovering from surgery she missed arguments at the court in January, her first illness-related absence in more than 25 years as a justice.

  184. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    When Philip Adams sticks to memory and country life I find him bearable.

    Philip Adams is living proof that hobby farmers are the curse of agriculture, in Australia.

  185. stackja

    NI – Dems won’t allow RBG to retire.

  186. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Joan of Arc is on World Movies tonight.

    Thought this was a reference to St. Greta at first.
    Had someone cobbled together footage of Greta’s flight by sea into a cinema verite masterpiece of pooing into a bucket as the ocean waves presented their climaxing challenge to gravity.

  187. Top Ender

    Chris Kenny takes one for the team by going to the Canberra Writers Festival

    Trying to burst green-left bubble
    CHRIS KENNY

    As you peruse these words, dear reader, spare a thought for me, off on a perilous and selfless mission this very day to burst the Canberra bubble from within. Speaking at the Canberra Writers Festival I will be surrounded by a plethora of pundits, mostly bubble deniers, determined to correct the error of my ways.

    A thousand metres above the suburbs, a million miles from their concerns, the rarefied preoccupations of the political/media class are bound to dominate — climate gestures, open borders, UN edicts and a general loathing for all things and players conservative. Scouring the festival program for moral support is a deflating task, plenty of familiar names and faces but nary a non-loather of conservatives among them.

    It will be a fascinating exercise, entering the bubble, to see what they have learned. The political/media class all seemed to think Malcolm Turnbull was unassailable when all of last year the national energy guarantee and his self-imposed Newspoll albatross had him under threat. And when Scott Morrison assumed the leadership a year ago today, they wrote off the Coalition.

    Why did they get it so wrong? Have they learned anything from a series of other collective misjudgments (overestimating Kevin Rudd, underestimating Tony Abbott, misjudging border protection, misjudging climate policy, underestimating Donald Trump and dismissing Brexit)?

    If you are interested in the bubble effect and whether the nation’s capital can be out of touch with the mainstream, the Canberra Writers Festival program is not a bad starting point. Understandably, there is a heavy loading of political writers and commentators.

    There are a handful of professionally objective centrists, such as David Speers and Chris Uhlmann. There are also a couple who might identify as anti-conservative, small-L liberals, such as my colleagues on this paper Peter van Onselen and Niki Savva.

    Most of the rest are various shades of left — green left, hard left, soft left and so on. Many would dismiss as outdated what they would call the old paradigm of left versus right (a sure sign they are green left).

    There are articulate polemicists such as David Marr, angry semi-retired conservative-bashers such as Paul Bongiorno, sanctimonious feminist warriors such as Jane Caro, jokey republicans such as Peter FitzSimons and garden variety green-left pontificators such as Katharine Murphy. Some, you will agree, are brilliant and worthy advocates; others will grate on you.

    We all have our preferences. While I tend to spar with some, avoid others, know a bunch of them to be lovely people and consider still others as mates, their individual qualities are not the point.

    What matters when it comes to the national debate is the sameness, the lack of diversity in ideologies and world views across this long list of contributors. Whether it is Laura Tingle, George Megalogenis, Emma Alberici, Malcolm Farr, Paul Daley, Karen Middleton or Sally Rugg, who will be making the argument in favour of cheaper power bills over climate gestures, or backing secure borders over UN appeasement, or advocating lower taxes rather than expansive government programs?

    Who will argue that successive election results demonstrate the political/media class is obsessed with futile climate action in a way the electorate simply is not?

    Who will suggest that mainstream Australians, including immigrants and their children, have a better understanding of the need for integrity in our immigration system than the political/media class?

    If we were to be generous, we might assume the festival’s list of political speakers represents the views of the broad left, covering up to 48 per cent of the population if we use the two-party-preferred vote as a guide (in reality it probably speaks for a narrower cohort of green-left Guardian Australia readers and ABC stalwarts). Yet this is the prevailing tone of the program.

    The other cohort of the electorate, the majority, those who favour the right of centre and were re-energised by a return to more conservative political values under Morrison, they seem to be reflected in the conversation by, well, by me — unless I’ve missed another. It is not easy to precisely delineate the political mainstream. But it certainly can’t be found in the spectrum between Caro and FitzSimons, or Megalogenis and Tingle. The mainstream, as we saw in May, is suburban and regional, aspirational and self-reliant, and resistant to the forces of the zeitgeist.

    No doubt the festival program will prove very popular (except, perhaps, for my spots). This is the nation’s capital, after all, and it is a public service, university and media city that tends to have an outlook its residents would call progressive.

    Just as I am not deriding the commentators, this is not a matter of bashing Canberra. Places have their political characters; the electoral maps tells us this. Wealthy areas are blue, poorer areas are red; Queensland lurches to the right, the mendicant states usually lean towards Labor; inner cities vote for green-left gestures and the suburbs vote for aspirational promises.

    The bubble effect doesn’t harm those who live inside it unless it impairs their decisions or analysis. It matters only if it isolates commentators and practitioners from reality — and that seems to have been borne out.

    Perhaps the critical question to this list of speakers must be whether they got the federal election wrong. Did they write off the Coalition in August last year, anytime afterwards, and on the eve of the election did they give Morrison any chance of winning? If they got the election wrong then the bubble effect must have been part of the problem.

    As a right-of-centre commentator it always feels as if the ACT is enemy territory, even when the Coalition is in power. (It may feel especially bracing today after this column.) This year we are repeating an event where I discuss and debate national issues with my cousin, former Sydney Morning Herald national affairs editor and now Australian National University senior fellow Mark Kenny.

    Mark is experienced, entertaining and erudite, and we get on well. But the point of the show is that we tend to see the world from differing perspectives (except for our allegiance to the Adelaide Crows). Dubbed Good Kenny/Bad Kenny it riffs off nicknames some press gallery journalists used for us back in the day and, if the audience at Old Parliament House last year was any guide, there isn’t much doubt who is the bad Kenny.

    But robust and respectful disagreement from different perspectives should be what political debate is often about. It is how we test ideas and find common ground. And it is how we remain in touch with the views and values of others.

    Much has been said and written about poor polling in the wake of the election, which is a bit of a cop-out given how close all the polls had it. The real lesson was how badly out of touch much of the media was with their audiences — with the public. Who in the vast empires of public broadcasting or the many arms of Nine Entertainment, other than Macquarie Radio, provided analysis that said the Coalition could or should win the election?

    Writers festivals across the country, usually reliant on government funding, routinely provide unrepresentative programs where the green left dominates and the mainstream is ignored or demonised. There is a virtuous feedback loop of publicly funded promotion and affirmation for the green-left network.

    We don’t pay our taxes for that and it doesn’t serve us well. Wouldn’t the programs be more entertaining and illuminating with a little more disagreement?

    Canberra Writers Festival director Paul Donohoe says the program is “aimed squarely at our audience’s interests” under the theme Power, Politics and Passion. Sure, they like politics. And sure, their politics will lean largely to the green left.

    But don’t they want to hear their ideas challenged? Don’t they want to try to understand why their compatriots chose to stick with a Coalition government rather than switch to Labor?

    There is great resistance to the bubble terminology in Canberra, of course, which might tend to confirm its existence. This weekend they will sell books, feed egos, demonise conservatives and signal their virtue on climate, refugees, anti-Trumpism and redis­tributive economics. They will fall about the place agreeing with each other. But unless they are prepared to burst that bubble, have their views challenged, understand the priorities of the suburbs and the regions, and add to their insider knowledge, they won’t change their assessments of the national and global debates.

    In which case they may get the next election wrong, too.

    CHRIS KENNY
    ASSOCIATE EDITOR (NATIONAL AFFAIRS)

    Commentator, author and former political adviser, Chris Kenny also hosts The Kenny Report Monday-Thursday 12-2pm, Kenny on Sunday at 8pm, and Kenny on Media on Mondays at 8pm on Sky News.

    Link

    Niki Savva is “anti-conservative” though? Have to disagree with you Chris. Every article she wrote for around four years straight seemed to be about how bad Tony Abbott was, and how wonderful Malcolm was.

  188. feelthebern

    I’m meant to go to a charity event that starts at noon.
    For some reason some contractor has a power pole & wires down blocking my garage.
    No notice given.
    Two streets that back onto the same ally impacted.
    Not happy.

  189. Fisky

    The head of one of Australia’s top universities fears the country is veering towards a new White Australia mindset amid the escalating debate over Chinese influence on campus and in the wider community.

    Sydney University vice-chancellor Michael Spence said some voices were dangerously close to arguing anyone who supported the Chinese government had no place on a university campus.

    “That’s just frightening as well as kind of dumb,” he told the Herald.

    In other words, vice-chancellors are perfectly fine with foreign governments interfering in our democratic affairs, threatening overseas students, impersonating police officers (to say nothing of putting 1 million people in camps, etc), so long as the $$$ keeps flowing into their coffers. Our university sector is rotten beyond redemption.

  190. DrBeauGan

    There’s an economy in numbers putting up an Adams post. The opinions of two silly old fools for the price of one, and I scrolled past both of them.

  191. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Philip Adams is living proof that hobby farmers are the curse of agriculture, in Australia.

    Yeah. But like him, I have a very soft spot for the old fashioned circuses of yore.
    How they livened up the lifestyle of old Mt. Druitt, Rooty Hill and St. Mary’s.
    We kids would spend weeks collecting returnable bottles to get the entrance money.
    If the supply of bottles proved unequal to the burgeoning demand, you had to rely on stealth.
    Some boys would take a silver threepence to show you the best place to crawl under into the tent.
    For that money, they would also hold up the wire that was liable to crush you if they didn’t do that.

  192. Top Ender

    Phillip Adams is nothing but a vacuous rich leftie who collects Egyptian stuff while living on a farm in Kangaroo Valley.

    So lunatic he resigned from the Labor Party because they booted Kevin Krudd out.

    Here’s what he wrote at the time:

    We’re told that everyone loathed Rudd. Apparently, I’m one of the very few who didn’t. Indeed, I became very fond of him. We’d met on Late Night Live in May 2001 and soon thereafter became friends. Despite our religious differences and ideological views that put me closer to Gillard, I admired Kevin’s intelligence and, yes, his ambition.

    …Of course he has flaws – but they’re offset by his essential decency….Rudd goes, so I go too.

  193. thefrollickingmole

    Complete idiots are about to inflict more misery on people in an “unseen” way, because of the inbuilt problems with dealing with drunks.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/aug/24/tanya-day-death-custody-inquest-family-want-answers

    A three-week inquest into her death in custody will begin in Melbourne on Monday. The coroner, Caitlin English, has already made two significant findings.

    The first was that Victoria should abolish the offence of being drunk in public. On Thursday the Andrews government announced it would do so, and set up an expert panel to consider options.

    Lady pissed and passed out on a train, police detain her using a “archaic’ charge.

    Dies in custody after falling about drunk in the cell, awful it happened but now we need to get to the “unseen” they think is better.

    Why would leaving a passed out woman in a public place be a “good’ solution as opposed to placing her somewhere safe from predators?
    How is public order served by having passed out drunks in public?

    Its ridiculous agenda driven politics, with no thought about what they are leaving people to suffer “unseen”.

    https://medium.com/incerto/the-intellectual-yet-idiot-13211e2d0577

    Typically, the IYI get the first order logic right, but not second-order (or higher) effects making him totally incompetent in complex domains. In the comfort of his suburban home with 2-car garage, he advocated the “removal” of Gadhafi because he was “a dictator”, not realizing that removals have consequences (recall that he has no skin in the game and doesn’t pay for results).
    The IYI has been wrong, historically, on Stalinism, Maoism, GMOs, Iraq, Libya, Syria, lobotomies, urban planning, low carbohydrate diets, gym machines, behaviorism, transfats, freudianism, portfolio theory, linear regression, Gaussianism, Salafism, dynamic stochastic equilibrium modeling, housing projects, selfish gene, election forecasting models, Bernie Madoff (pre-blowup) and p-values. But he is convinced that his current position is right.

  194. feelthebern

    One day I hope to have a truffle farm.
    All for personal consumption.

  195. Fisky

    The next recession will be a once-in-a-generation opportunity to reset this country permanently and clean up the damage of the last 40 years. We can start by halving immigration. That measure alone will cause a dramatic improvement in university standards, road de-congestion, and even building quality as the need to accommodate fewer people will allow construction firms more time to do the work properly.

    Slash immigration and everything else will be sorted.

  196. dopey

    Just wondering when the ABC will refer to Pell as incarcerated, or is that just for refugees and the indigenous?

  197. stackja

    Philip Adams is a socialist/capitalist.

  198. feelthebern

    Restructuring immigration totally needs to happen.
    It’s so hopelessly broken.

  199. 1735099

    silly old fools

    Takes one to know one.
    Anyone who gets his jollies from perving on younger women whilst destroying what’s left of his lungs and digestive system for months on end does not necessarily fit the description of “wise”.

  200. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Not happy.

    Uber might have to be called to the rescue, Burn.
    Charge it back to the contractor.

  201. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    There’s an economy in numbers putting up an Adams post. The opinions of two silly old fools for the price of one, and I scrolled past both of them.

    Harsh, but fair.

  202. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Slash immigration and everything else will be sorted.

    Um yeah sure.

    Restructuring immigration totally needs to happen.
    It’s so hopelessly broken.

    Actually true.

  203. Boambee John

    Delta A

    Good to hear that you are (albeit slowly) recovering.

    Keep the ambition up. Go back and re-read Reach for the Sky, particularly the bit when Bader was trying to master golf.

  204. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Our kids use Uber.
    Hairy and I are of the ‘call a taxi’ generation.
    You should get with it, mum and dad, we are constantly told.
    I am not interested in meeting any more of your friends, I sniff.

  205. cohenite

    dynamic stochastic equilibrium modeling

    The basis of every paper proving alarmism is real.

  206. stackja

    mole – Victoria wants to help drunks.
    What could possibly go wrong?

  207. Steve trickler

    This was posted on the old thread. Find the time if you can. Close to 50 mins.

    Astonishing footage and sounds.

    1928-1929: Life in England.



  208. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Most of the rest are various shades of left — green left, hard left, soft left and so on. Many would dismiss as outdated what they would call the old paradigm of left versus right (a sure sign they are green left).

    LOL.
    The Canberra Writers Festival – one to avoid. Along with all of the other write-fests.
    Is there any place or forum where non-left writers meet? Not that I have time, and no doubt many here would say I don’t have the talent. It would just be nice to know that such people do gather.

  209. Entropy

    Philip Adams is living proof that hobby farmers are the curse of agriculture, in Australia.

    Quite so. Thing is, they believe they are real farmers.

  210. DrBeauGan

    Fight on, delta A. You’re an inspiration.

  211. Fisky

    There is practically no problem in the world that immigration restriction cannot solve!
    -the property ponzi
    -falling wages
    -university degradation
    -national security
    -poor building standards
    -foreign interference
    -social harmony
    -climate change
    -water consumption
    -….

  212. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Quite so. Thing is, they believe they are real farmers.

    They believe they are the ONLY real farmers. The fact that there are those of us who make a living, or have made a living, from running a farm is something that their pin sized brains cannot grasp.

  213. calli

    Delta! 😀

    You go (old) girrrrl.

    We’re tougher than we think we are, and you prove it. All the very best.

  214. Entropy

    Niki Savva is “anti-conservative” though? Have to disagree with you Chris. Every article she wrote for around four years straight seemed to be about how bad Tony Abbott was, and how wonderful Malcolm was.

    Lol

  215. stackja

    Man charged after car hits house – Cringila

    Saturday, 24 August 2019 09:42:24 AM

    A man will face court next month after a car hit a house at Cringila, narrowly missing a sleeping family of three, in the NSW Illawarra Region today.

    Around 3.30am (Saturday 24 August 2019), a 21-year-old man was driving a silver Holden Cruze along Lake Avenue when it left the road and hit the main bedroom of the single storey dwelling.

    The Cruze narrowly missed a 24-year-old woman, 26-year-old man and their two-year-old daughter, who were asleep at the time. While waiting for emergency services, the Cruze’s engine bay caught fire and started to spread to the house.

    Emergency services arrived and the fire was extinguished. The two-year-old sustained minor injuries.

    The 21-year-old driver was breath tested at the scene and this returned a negative result.

    He was arrested and conveyed to the Lake Illawarra Police Station where he was charged with driving whilst disqualified, drive in a manner dangerous to the public and negligent driving.

    The man was granted conditional bail and will appear at the Port Kembla Local Court on Wednesday 25 September 2019.

    His 35-year-old male passenger was not hurt. Inquiries are continuing into the events leading up to the crash. Inquiries are continuing.

  216. Astonishing footage and sounds.
    1928-1929: Life in England.

    Favourite part so far:
    The Shepherd walking smoothly & gracefully, with poise, through the flock, observing them carefully with pipe in his mouth, and a lamb under each arm.

    Anyone who thinks that is as easy as he makes it look, should proceed now to a sheep farm (you’ve got time, this is a weekend), light a pipe & set it between yer teeth, then try to pick up one lamb and once you’ve got it secure under you left arm, pick up a second.
    Then stroll with poise & grace observing all that is around you.
    Have someone catch the entire episode on video.

  217. thefrollickingmole

    What could possibly go wrong?

    I cant think of any possible downside to leaving people paralytic drunk in public.
    Especially young ladies.

    Nope no risk i can think of that might be present…

  218. feelthebern

    We need a bond system for new migrants.
    We need to get rid of immigration agents.

  219. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Get woke go broke. Video above is great showing that Gillette is backpedaling fast from ‘toxic’ masculinity, and interesting in the contrast it makes to Gillette still giving obese women praise for ‘being what they are’. This is not good for women, as the vid says. Gillette’s marketing and ad team need to stop the social justice themes altogether, for men and for women, including that sickening ‘cross gender kiddie’ diversity ad where a man shows his daughter how to shave. erk!

  220. Rather, have someone catch the entire attempt on video.
    Keep in mind, the 1928 Shepherd, in addition to lambs x 2 is also effortlessly carrying his shepherd’s crook.

  221. feelthebern

    I can’t uber as I’m taking my dog.
    I can’t go without puppy.

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