Open Forum: August 24, 2019

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  1. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Emotional incontinence:

    Trending on FB, in USA:

    #PrayForAmazonia

  2. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Whisky – single malt, Christ on a bicycle..

  3. cohenite

    The Appeal Court’s circular reasoning is of course part and parcel of this egregious Judgment but it is not the heart of the Judgment; the heart is the perversion of the fundamental criteria of beyond reasonable doubt. The Majority decision noted the context of the case consisted of a number of aspects each of which was possible but sufficiently improbable so as to separately satisfy reasonable doubt; but when combined their accumulated improbability did not satisfy reasonable doubt.

    The Judgment’s legal ramifications are that anyone now accused of an historical offence where it is their word against an accuser is horribly disadvantaged. By this standard the idiot blasey ford’s ridiculous accusations against Kavanaugh would be valid.

  4. Mark A

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #3140216, posted on August 24, 2019 at 10:31 pm

    Whisky – single malt, Christ on a bicycle..

    Gotcha!

  5. Steve trickler

    Bald and his adventures. Some of the building work in those bus stations is a sight to behold.



  6. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Felt like an angel had pissed on my tonsils

    Your mate is a connoisseur..

  7. Mark A

    Jeeesus she is nodding as if she understood the gibberish of Taylor

  8. egg_

    JohnJJJ
    #3140202, posted on August 24, 2019 at 9:59 pm

    Never mind the quality – feel the width“?

  9. dover_beach

    The Appeal Court’s circular reasoning is of course part and parcel of this egregious Judgment but it is not the heart of the Judgment; the heart is the perversion of the fundamental criteria of beyond reasonable doubt.

    The two are related. The majority’s decision hangs everything on A’s testimony in the face of no corroborating evidence and an enormous amount of exculpatory testimony. Further, A’s testimony stretches credulity. All of this is ignored because they accept the prosecution’s claim that A’s testimony is ‘compelling’ and according to them ‘obviously truthful’. It’s this latter claim that inverts the burden of proof which is why Weinberg continually points out the insufficiency of prosecution’s and the majority’s continuous refrain when confronted with serious obstacles in A’s account that, well, ‘it’s possible’.

    The stink of this case can only be removed by the HC. It is a travesty. Worse than the decision of the second jury.

  10. Knuckle Dragger

    Footy tipping.

    5/6 to date. I need the Dogs, Brisvegas and those Port cocks to get up tomorrow for 8/9 and surely an outright podium berth, if not the brass ring.

  11. Knuckle Dragger

    Pat Cummins castles Roy with a Jaffa for the ages.

    2/fuckall.

  12. Leigh Lowe

    And … the implosion begins.

  13. Mark A

    the glue wasn’t good enough

  14. Bruce in WA

    Your mate is a connoisseur..

    Was a 60th birthday present from the company he part-owned.

    My son-in-law is a real Scotch aficionado. He was s-o-o-o-o jealous. Asked me what it was like.

    Keeping a straight face (for a while), I said: “Bit of a disappointment — it almost overpowered the Coke”.

    I can be a shit sometimes.

  15. Leigh Lowe

    Knuckle Dragger

    #3140225, posted on August 24, 2019 at 10:55 pm

    Pat Cummins castles Roy with a Jaffa for the ages.

    Two balls before Roy pulled away when Cummins was nearly at the crease and had a sook to the ump about something.
    Mid off tells him to leave it to the umps (whatever it was) and get on with it.
    Maybe only concentrating 93.1%.

  16. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Oh look it is this lunatic:

    The smoking gun evidence that put George Pell in jail came from his own perjuring witnesses
    by Shane Dowling

    George Pell’s lawyers allowed 2 key witnesses, Father Charles Portelli and Maxwell Potter, to hop in the witness stand and perjurer themselves like there was no tomorrow which is the smoking gun evidence that brought down George Pell (WTF?!). Father Charles Portelli and Maxwell Potter both gave evidence that it was physically impossible for George Pell […]

    Is Dowling lacking so much in self-awareness he doesn’t realise that “A” curated his story many times?

  17. Leigh Lowe

    Knuckle Dragger

    #3140225, posted on August 24, 2019 at 10:55 pm

    Pat Cummins castles Roy with a Jaffa for the ages.

    Two [email protected] before Roy pulled away when Cummins was nearly at the crease and had a sook to the ump about something.
    Mid off tells him to leave it to the umps (whatever it was) and get on with it.
    Maybe only concentrating 93.1%.

  18. Robert Mc

    Fear not, friends. JC may yet have to buy Monty another steak.

    Liberal US supreme court justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg has completed a three-week course of radiation therapy to treat a cancerous tumor on her pancreas, a court spokeswoman said on Friday.

    The 86-year old justice tolerated the therapy well and no further treatment is required, spokeswoman Kathy Arberg said in a statement.

    An abnormality was first detected in July, and the tumor was identified following a biopsy performed on July 31st at Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center in New York.

    “She canceled her annual summer visit to Santa Fe, but has otherwise maintained an active schedule,” Ms Arberg said.

    “The tumor was treated definitively and there is no evidence of disease elsewhere in the body,” the spokeswoman added.

    RBG only needs to survive until 1 January 2020 to ensure that the established protocol (no Justice replacement on the Supreme Court in a Presidential Election year) can be maintained by the US Senate.

  19. Bela Bartok

    Just attended a ‘wedding’ between two grooms fundamental in the marriage ‘act’ that allowed gay marriage: prominent Liberal party members. Prominent enough for our premier Gladys to attend.
    Was revolted at her exultation at gay sanctified marriage.
    Revolted even more that it was considered impolite at a gay wedding to raise the Christian virtue of not killing the unborn.
    A Liberal party that celebrates Gay Marriage and the murder of babies?
    Disgusted beyond words.

  20. Knuckle Dragger

    This country is awash with girl types who continually whine and moan about the complete knobs they meet on dating sites.

    LayDEEES, this is why. Pay attention now.

    If you insist on putting in phrases like ‘University of Life’, or worse – ‘School of Hard Knocks’, most blokes will at this point immediately identify you as someone who, should you ever meet, bitch constantly about how hard done by in every field of endeavour in life you are, none of which will be remotely your fault.

    Sick of this already, blokes will swipe left so hard they’ll run the risk of dislocating their finger.

    You WILL meet fantasy football geeks, gamer nerds and desperadoes who will bring with them the wedding ring they bought half an hour before at Cashies for $20.

    Just sayin’. Here to help.

  21. Knuckle Dragger

    Again? Really?

    Denly smacked on the temple. Never looked at the ball at all. Shithouse.

    Seriously, this is what happens when you bring punters up on 20/20, and to a lesser extent one day cricket.

    They’re taught open stances and to wave the bat a la baseball, but not basic shit like how to stop the rock slamming into your bonce. This needs sorting.

  22. dover_beach

    The smoking gun evidence that put George Pell in jail came from his own perjuring witnesses

    No, no, Portelli and Potter are right. It is impossible, as in practically impossible. If you think otherwise, show me how Pell pulled ‘to one side’ his robe, etc. as well as allegedlyy holding two boys. I suppose his ‘third hand’ was in play, or given its use at some stage, a fourth hand can be inferred.

  23. Bruce in WA

    Just attended a ‘wedding’ between two grooms fundamental in the marriage ‘act’ that allowed gay marriage: prominent Liberal party members. Prominent enough for our premier Gladys to attend.
    Was revolted at her exultation at gay sanctified marriage.
    Revolted even more that it was considered impolite at a gay wedding to raise the Christian virtue of not killing the unborn.
    A Liberal party that celebrates Gay Marriage and the murder of babies?
    Disgusted beyond words.

    Thank you.

  24. Leo G

    A’s testimony stretches credulity. All of this is ignored because they accept the prosecution’s claim that A’s testimony is ‘compelling’ and according to them ‘obviously truthful’.

    So A’s testimony was both the basis for the charges and was accepted as sufficient evidence supporting the charges. A prosecution lifted by it’s own bootstraps.

  25. JC

    Bela

    If you were so revolted then why did you attend?

  26. Leigh Lowe

    This stat on Cricinfo.
    Jason Roy has a test average of 8.85.
    Only one other player (New Zealand’s Ken Rutherford) has opened the batting in as many Test innings as Jason Roy with an average lower than his 8.85.

  27. Steve trickler

    What a wanker this security guard is. This clip goes back to 2017….dickheads on Utube playing the race card.



  28. Leigh Lowe

    They’re taught open stances and to wave the bat a la baseball, but not basic shit like how to stop the rock slamming into your bonce. This needs sorting.

    Well, it will get sorted in a Darwiny natural selection type way if they keep selecting T20 FTBs in Tests.

  29. mh

    Trump has become the face of freedom around the world

    Paul Joseph Watson

    @PrisonPlanet
    They want Trump to pressure China to back down.
    https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/1165147237003026432?s=20

  30. Bruce in WA

    Full of good food, good wine, leccie blanket on, two good novels waiting on Kindle … 11 000 steps today, 14.5 kg down from my starting weight — might be time for a hot shower and bed, even if not sleep yet.

    Goodnight Cats.

  31. Leigh Lowe

    Cricinfo on fire:-

    Joe Denly’s most productive shot is the ‘left alone’.

  32. Knuckle Dragger

    Denly should be immediately retired by his captain.

    He has no business batting at 4, let alone at Test level, and all he’s going to do is get himself killed if he keeps going the way he’s going, ie not looking at the rock on its way towards him.

    FFS Glenn McGrath could play the short pill better than he does.

  33. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Goodnight Cats.

    I’m grinding the edges off a bad case of “Rifleman’s back” with several large Scotchs, and “Old Man’s War” by John Scalzi – a modified version of Robert Heinlein’s “Starship Troopers.” If you joined the Colonial Defence Forces, at over seventy years old, you got a new body. Fine by me, but would I have to return my Gold card?

  34. Muddy

    A Liberal party that celebrates Gay Marriage and the murder of babies?

    A vote for a corpse will not reinvigorate it. (But it will make its head swell with importance).

  35. Bruce in WA

    If you joined the Colonial Defence Forces, at over seventy years old, you got a new body.

    Well, not over 70 yet … but if I was in line for a new body, I reckon I’d get Lassie!

  36. Old Lefty

    In a decent world, Portelli and Potter should she. But that, of course, would mean having to go through the Victorian ‘justice’ system. Say no more.

    Portelli should organise a posse of Maltese to protect him from the Left rentacrowd that terrorises Yarragrad into submission.

  37. Old Lefty

    It’s the vibe, Leo G. Not just one Daniel but a pair of Danny De Nutos come to judgement.

  38. Old Lefty

    And as for the NSW Liberals, I was talking to someone yesterday who is in despair. He has abandoned a lifetime of voting Labor (as generations of his family had done) only to find Lee Rhiannon in drag sitting in the cabinet as health minister.

  39. Old Lefty

    Sorry, Portelli and Potter should sue, not she. Autocorrect strikes again.

  40. JC

    Netflix has gone to shit. It’s now the funnel used to get money to D’rats.

    Netflix reportedly paid $10M for campaign documentary featuring Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

    They paid the Kenyans a load on money too.

    It’s worth taking a look as a short.

    https://techcrunch.com/2019/02/09/netflix-knock-down-the-house-ocasio-cortez-campaign-documentary/

  41. Steve trickler

    I do like this lady. It has been a long time since i watched someone smoke a ciggie and provide commentary such as this.



  42. Zyconoclast

    NASA investigates the first allegation of criminal activity in SPACE: Astronaut is accused of accessing her wife’s bank account from the International Space Station during their messy divorce

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7390353/NASA-investigates-claims-astronaut-accessed-spouses-bank-account-space.html

  43. Zyconoclast

    Oh dear.

    Govt to invite African high school students to study in Japan

    The Foreign Ministry will launch a project to invite African high school students to study in Japan, aiming to deepen young Africans’ understanding of Japan and foster human resources who can play an active role in Japanese companies and other organizations in the future.

    The ministry aims to accept students from all 54 countries in Africa over the next three years.

  44. Steve trickler

    Hold your breathe for 30 seconds. How do you feel afterwards?



    Hubby behind the camera. Look him up.

  45. Steve trickler

    A shout out to Enda Brady from Sky News visiting Perth. Run the marathon and fuck off! Dishonest prick .A consistent liar.

  46. Urban disorder from City Update.
    The case is being argued that the US major cities are descending back into the chaos of the eighties, and that the reason is the same – Democrat feel-good policies.

  47. 1735099

    Another one of Hanson’s stunts goes pear-shaped.

  48. 1735099

    NASA investigates the first allegation of criminal activity in SPACE: Astronaut is accused of accessing her wife’s bank account from the International Space Station during their messy divorce

    I wonder where she was going to spend it.
    Not many shopping malls out there…..

  49. calli

    Top o’ the mornin’ Cats! Off to Sydney to watch my grandie play in the under 10’s district final.

    Before I go, my picks from Tom’s link:

    Perfect

    Chuckle

  50. Fair Shake

    Tom must be having a well earned break.

    A week in pictures

  51. stackja

    Homophobic slurs between jurors lead to terror trial being aborted
    A major terrorism trial, in the case of a teen accused of buying a hunting knife to murder civilians in an Islamic State-inspired attack, had to be aborted after jurors clashed after four days of deliberations.

    Brenden Hills, Court Reporter, The Sunday Telegraph
    Subscriber only

    August 25, 2019 12:00am

    The foreman, asked by Justice Bellew to describe what happened in the jury room on August 12, explained that he had been writing the Crown Prosecutor’s “18 points of conduct” on the white board when the female juror said to him: “Why don’t you sit down and let another person do the writing.”

    When he offered her the white board marker, she replied: “I don’t need to, I’m not the one who likes to hear the sound of my own voice.”

    Things deteriorated further when the foreman sat down and muttered under his breath the word “bitch”. The woman heard him, leading her to make the homophobic insult.

    After the slur, the foreman told the woman: “Well, you have really shown your true colours, now everyone here knows you’re homophobic.”

  52. bespoke

    MatrixTransform
    #3140152, posted on August 24, 2019 at 7:52 pm
    The wife has an eye patch so the pirate jokes run thick.

    there’s a hook for a joke in there somewhere.

    count yr blessings mate.

    Every day.

    Anyway top commentary last night except on the choice of grog. Woodstock cans are the anytime any occasion drink. From watching The Big Bang Theory to weddings and for the odd special time Bundy and coke.

  53. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Woodstock cans’

    bespoke,

    We can’t be friends any more.

  54. Eyrie

    The crime in space thing:
    https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/the-first-crime-in-space/
    Divorced Lesbian couple. LOL! NASA allows the mentally ill as astronauts now.

  55. Tom

    KD, are there still pubs in Darwin that ban Bundy because it makes the boys fight?

  56. Mater

    Bob,
    I ran across this. Thought it might be useful if you wanted to edit your review of ‘Danger Close’. Good general knowledge, even if you don’t.
    Never let it be said that I don’t do anything for you.

    Lt-Col Smith said some Owen and F1 sub-machine guns were being carried during the battle by D Coy’s signallers and medics.
    “We also had a number of old Armalites handed down from 1RAR and most failed,” he said.
    “The Owens and F1s were of little use over the longer ranges in the rubber and the 9mm bullets would not penetrate enemy webbing.

  57. Cassie of Sydney

    “Old Lefty
    #3140252, posted on August 24, 2019 at 11:49 pm
    In a decent world, Portelli and Potter should she. But that, of course, would mean having to go through the Victorian ‘justice’ system. Say no more.”

    Both Portelli and Potter should both sue. This it the problem…being nice and turning the other cheek when dealing with scurrilous hacks who spread smears and lies doesn’t work.

  58. Knuckle Dragger

    Tom,

    I’m not sure – I haven’t heard of it but I wouldn’t be surprised.

    I had a brief period on it in my grunt years in Townsville. It was the only spirit ever that angried up the blood – for me, anyway, so I gave it away and went back onto the Turkey. Still have the scars from it.

    This was, of course, the era of those very quiet pubs in T-town, where nothing ever happened and the ADF kept the nasty grunts on a ‘short leash’. According to someone, anyway.

    Bundaberg Rum.. The only spirit that makes you say, ‘The fuck you lookin’ at?’

  59. mh

    Trump has big plans for space, so he may want to put a broom through NASA

    NASA astronaut accused of stealing identity, accessing bank account of estranged wife while in space: report

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/nasa-astronaut-identity-theft-bank-account-divorce-wife

  60. Johno

    “The Owens and F1s were of little use over the longer ranges in the rubber and the 9mm bullets would not penetrate enemy webbing.

    We trained with the F1 back in OZ,and they were universally despised. Years later I read that they had superseded the Owen. This came as a bit of a surprise to me as I had listened to a lot of the WW2 blokes from town and they reckoned that it was a good weapon. It was supposed to have an effective range of 25 metres, I would halve that. Stupid big heavy bolt,blow back action.Primitive, cheap crap.

  61. Knuckle Dragger

    I know most of the cattle stations ban Bundy anywhere on their patches, because the stockies used to beat each other to smithereens. Which was fine, but it sometimes impacted their work so the head stockies (the RSMs of the stations) and the managers outlawed it.

    So they used to get right on it when they came into town two or three times a year for rodeos and the like. The stockies aren’t much trouble now though. A few city muppets get full of gay beers and try and take the cowboys in their best jeans, RMs and checks shirts on, and continue to learn that muscles earned wrestling cattle the size of 4WDs outgun those gained by dressing in lycra and having a chat to old mate Christos outside the gym.

  62. bespoke

    Bundaberg Rum.. The only spirit that makes you say, ‘The fuck you lookin’ at?’

    Not me I’m respectful and articulate at all times. Must be my jeans.

  63. bespoke

    Arrrrr there she blows cooking bacon and eggs.

  64. Mater

    It was supposed to have an effective range of 25 metres

    I once read an account of an Australian who hosed down an opponent in Korea with a full magazine from an Owen, to no apparent effect. He subsequently grabbed a .303, which put the other bloke down (and three yards back) with the first shot.
    After the battle they had a look and found that the 9mm were all embedded in the thick padded jackets the enemy wore, to fend off the cold. They just didn’t penetrate those jackets, especially when wet.

    The old ‘locked and loaded’ SLR could never be accused of such a failing. It could throw the guy holding it, three yards back.

  65. The Barking Toad

    Speaking of Rum ….

    What happened to Beenleigh?

  66. Boambee John

    I did hear rumours of a demonstration in which a SNCO wrapped himself (all over, including his head) in a standard greatcoat and sat on the ground 100m downrange while another SNCO fired a full mag from either an Owen or an F1 at him. At that range the greatcoat stopped all the rounds.

  67. Entropy

    I’m grinding the edges off a bad case of “Rifleman’s back” with several large Scotchs, and “Old Man’s War” by John Scalzi – a modified version of Robert Heinlein’s “Starship Troopers.” If you joined the Colonial Defence Forces, at over seventy years old, you got a new body. Fine by me, but would I have to return my Gold card?

    Make a great movie that book. Ageist green men but.

  68. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I did hear rumours of a demonstration in which a SNCO wrapped himself (all over, including his head) in a standard greatcoat and sat on the ground 100m downrange while another SNCO fired a full mag from either an Owen or an F1 at him. At that range the greatcoat stopped all the rounds.

    Heard the same rumour, including the name of the unit involved. Something about “Who Cares Who Wins?”

  69. johanna

    WA Labor annual conference descernds into chaos.

    What is revealing is how the sacredness of Welcome to Country is flushed down the loo when matters of real importance are at stake:

    WA Labor’s state conference was engulfed by chaotic scenes on Saturday, with a large number of delegates walking out, and the party’s president left on the verge of tears.

    Perth MP Patrick Gorman and WA Labor president Carolyn Smith were heckled by large parts of the crowd, including at least one state MP, with Premier Mark McGowan left to deliver his keynote speech to a more than half-empty room after a large number of delegates walked out.

    The walkout by delegates of unions from Labor’s right faction occurred during a Welcome to Country ceremony and a tribute to Bob Hawke. The behaviour was described as “disgraceful” and “outrageous” by others within the party.

    Never mind Bob Hawke and the holiness of indigenousness, when what matters most is:

    But members of the right faction say the walkout was prompted entirely by the conduct of the left in trying to disqualify a delegate from the Maritime Union of Australia, and had nothing to do with the tribute to Mr Hawke or the Welcome to Country ceremony.

    They don’t even pretend to believe in anything but factional political power.

  70. Roger

    Hongkongers pining for the good old days of British rule & looking to Trump to save them.

    Australian journalists must be puzzled.

    I note Zoe Daniel was fretting because Trump might misbehave at the G7.

    The horror!

  71. custard

    Foreign Minister Pain dressed as the Flying Nun on Insidious

  72. Beertruk

    Meanwhile brilliant news on the fraudulent Glowbal Warming fromt, via Tim Blair:

    STICKIN’ IT TO THE MANN
    Tim Blair, The Daily Telegraph
    August 24, 2019 5:44pm
    Subscriber only

    My dear old friend Michael Mann’s long-running defamation lawsuit against Canadian climate sceptic Dr Tim Ball has been thrown out by the Supreme Court of British Columbia. And the news gets even better from there:

    Not only did the court grant Ball’s application for dismissal of the nine-year, multi-million dollar lawsuit, it also took the additional step of awarding full legal costs to Ball.

    Readers are invited to calculate the potential costs of a case that’s been running since 2011. In the spirit of climate alarmism, feel free to add a few zeroes. John O’Sullivan continues:

    This extraordinary outcome is expected to trigger severe legal repercussions for Dr Mann in the U.S. and may prove fatal to climate science claims that modern temperatures are “unprecedented.”

    Dr Mann lost his case because he refused to show in open court his R2 regression numbers (the ‘working out’) behind the world-famous ‘hockey stick’ graph.

    The graph first appeared in the UN IPCC 2001 Third Assessment Report and has been an iconic image used ever since by environmentalists clamoring for urgent action on man-made global warming.

    Live by the stick, die by the stick.

    Dr Ball, now affirmed as a courageous champion of honest science, has assured his place in the history of climate science. His gift to the world was giving up nine of his senior years, when he could have been enjoying his retirement, to exposing key players in the biggest science fraud of all time.

    People too easily forget Dr Ball has defeated in expensive legal battles not just one top UN IPCC climate scientists, but two!

    The other loser was Andrew Weaver. Congratulations to Tim Ball. Happily, I’ve got something Canadian here to kick off the celebrations: pic of a bottle of toasted maplewood staved finished Collingwood blended Canadian whisky.

    .

  73. custard

    Er Insiders!

    But I like what the spell checker did there.

  74. Entropy

    Knuckle Dragger
    #3140290, posted on August 25, 2019 at 8:39 am
    I know most of the cattle stations ban Bundy anywhere on their patches, because the stockies used to beat each other to smithereens. Which was fine, but it sometimes impacted their work so the head stockies (the RSMs of the stations) and the managers outlawed it.

    So they used to get right on it when they came into town two or three times a year for rodeos and the like. The stockies aren’t much trouble now though. A few city muppets get full of gay beers and try and take the cowboys in their best jeans, RMs and checks shirts on, and continue to learn that muscles earned wrestling cattle the size of 4WDs outgun those gained by dressing in lycra and having a chat to old mate Christos outside the gym.

    I have a theory about spirits, that it brings out the real drinker, but that it conforms to types.
    Thus gin drinkers are very sad people and start crying when on the gin.
    Scotch drinkers become more snobby, which may or not be justified; unless it’s Johnny walker and then they are just try hards.
    My bundy theory is a little more in depth, from years of close, personal observation.
    Ringers get violent on Bundaberg rum; jackaroos get happy. Cattle vs sheep perhaps?

  75. lotocoti

    I once read an account …

    A workplace proximity acquaintance (two tours, second as a RTO) had an oppo who loved the Owen ’til a bad batch of ammunition turned up.
    The propellant was nfg.
    Apparently the primers had enough oomph to reciprocate the bolt, but only dribble bullets out the dangerous end.

  76. Geriatric Mayfly

    No further news of Greta’s encounter with tropical storm Chantal. If the wind round this system reverses, will she still remember to chuck the bucket to leeward?

  77. Roger

    WA Labor annual conference descends into chaos.

    Meanwhile, in the land of fruits and nuts, we’ve just had Albo delivering the keynote address at the QLD ALP conference, promising to visit us each month while in the background MPs are circling the wagons around Comrade Trad as unionists call fer her sacking.

  78. Johno

    Mater, same thing happened in SVN. A CMF officer bought his F1 with him on patrol with one of our Platoons. A contact was initiated and he emptied his full mag into the bag of a fleeing NVA. They could see the tracer rounds hitting the noggies back. He didn’t even break stride. I am surprised the rounds could go 100 metres. Another thing that shit me about that war was that there was a little attachment made for the SLR mags which enabled you to load full clips into the mag. The DOD were to cheap to buy them for a couple of cents each.As a consequence we had to load each individual round into the mags.
    Cheap bastards.

  79. Bill Thompson

    Michael Stutchbury “Outside Insiders” this morning – BTW it was all the political & commercial honchos who were apparently “on their rockers” during the last 50 years who got us where we are now…

    https://youtu.be/OyIEd4datD4

  80. areff

    I have a theory about spirits, that it brings out the real drinker, but that it conforms to types.
    Thus gin drinkers are very sad people and start crying when on the gin….

    Don’t Argue. Vodka is best.

  81. bespoke

    Bundy is also good for life changing decisions like what brand of oil to use and weather to tell your mother in-law she is talking shit.

  82. Entropy

    Meanwhile, in the land of fruits and nuts, we’ve just had Albo delivering the keynote address at the QLD ALP conference, promising to visit us each month…

    When will these dicks work out they only people that want to see them frequently are party factional hacks and media.
    The rest of the population likes politicians more the less they see of them.

  83. Roger

    A Finnish MP is being investigated by police for hate speech (2 year prison term) for questioning why the state church sponsors Helsinki’s gay pride march and quoting the Bible in a Tweet.

    It is not inconceivable that in some Western countries the Bible will soon be banned.

    You’ll still be able to buy a Koran, though.

  84. Roger

    When will these dicks work out…

    Not for a long, long time we hope.

    More Albo, I say!

  85. Leigh Lowe

    On experiments with half rat-power weapons, I did hear a similar one using old VikPol .38 revolvers and a watch-house blanket soaked in water.

  86. Beertruk

    Johno
    #3140308, posted on August 25, 2019 at 9:30 am

    I remember using this back in the CMF/ARA days on the range.

  87. Johno

    I remember using this back in the CMF/ARA days on the range.

    What is it?

  88. Nick

    You’ll still be able to buy a Koran, though.

    Maybe we need to get smart and quote the Koran. See what doesn’t happen.

  89. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    What is it?

    It’s the attachment for loading five round clips into a S.L.R. mag, rather then having to load the rounds individually.

  90. egg_

    WA Labor annual conference descernds into chaos.

    Yet Insiders informs us that Trump has no idea what he’s doing with China.
    The results beg to differ.

  91. custard

    The couch outraged at the suggestion that renewables are destabilising the electricity grid.

  92. Tel

    I have a theory about spirits, that it brings out the real drinker, but that it conforms to types.
    Thus gin drinkers are very sad people and start crying when on the gin….

    I don’t mind the occasional gin and tonic with lime as a social thing, but I find I get quite upset a few days AFTER drinking gin if I ever drink enough to actually feel drunk.

    However should I pick a very clean vodka like Kettle One for example, and I drink even quite a lot of that I still feel fine afterwards … providing I get some decent amount of Staminade or Gatorade or something to rehydrate before sleeping and again in the morning.

    Definitely vodka dehydrates you, but gin seems to do that plus other worse things. My advice is avoid gin, and if someone offers you a gin and tonic then sip it extremely slowly. It’s not spirits in general, it’s gin in particular.

    Has anyone tried the White Birch vodka? It’s a tiny touch sweet and ever so slightly woody (not wood like a Wolf Blass wine which is equivalent to getting clobbered in the chops with an oak barrel stave). Russians don’t like strong flavours … but vodka is a drink that delivers very subtle flavours once you get into it. I might try the White Birch again, it’s probably a good idea for Christmas.

    https://www.ruskiwaydeli.com.au/white-birch-silver-vodka-0.7l

  93. Roger

    The couch outraged at the suggestion that renewables are destabilising the electricity grid.

    The dogma lives loudly among them.

  94. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    In the spirit of climate alarmism, feel free to add a few zeroes

    LOL.
    Tim Blair can still do a satirical aside very well indeed.

  95. Tel

    A Finnish MP is being investigated by police for hate speech (2 year prison term) for questioning why the state church sponsors Helsinki’s gay pride march and quoting the Bible in a Tweet.

    I thought the Finns fought against Communism … they used to do.

  96. Ellie

    The couch outraged at the suggestion that renewables are destabilising the electricity grid.

    Good morning, Custard.

    They appeared very confused, didn’t they.

    They’re celebrating the life of Tim Fischer. I was shocked to learn he’s, apparently, an anti-Semite. If the Left are praising him, perhaps he was. I don’t know.

  97. Delta A

    Thank you, everyone, for your encouragement and kind wishes.

    This has been a huge learning curve for me, especially since I hadn’t been in hospital for 45 years, and even then only for childbirth. My outlook and aspirations have changed entirely: instead of more travel and good times, my short term goals are to avoid falls and to be walking by Christmas.

    I’ve learnt how to be patient and impatient at the same time, repressing my inner control freak to allow my wonderful Best Man to look after the household and, frequently, me, while at the same time eager to be upright and walking. And I’ve learnt to be truly appreciative of the excellent health I’ve enjoyed all my life, and have regained now that I’m free from pain and the osteomyelitis that contributed to it.

    “Let us know when you are up for another round of stumpy jokes. We’re here all week.”

    I think I’ve heard them all by now. 🙂 Family and friends have been the biggest contributers, ( it probably helped them come to terms with my situation,) but my favourite is the one from Winston Smith about his amputee mate who asks if I want to go 50/50 on a pair of redbacks. I’m still chuckling.

  98. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    When privilege becomes a curse: How Katherine Keating used her status as PM’s daughter to befriend royals and infiltrate New York’s high society – and why she has gone into hiding since being linked to Jeffrey Epstein

    Katherine Keating has maintained her silence over appearance in Epstein video
    When Ms Keating was 29 she was seen leaving Epstein’s $77million townhouse
    A video taken that day showed Prince Andrew waving to her after she’d departed
    The footage resurfaced this week, but Ms Keating – now 37 – has stayed in hiding
    Even her dad, ex-Labor prime minister Paul Keating, wouldn’t answer questions

    Daily Mail.

  99. mh

    Tel
    #3140326, posted on August 25, 2019 at 10:00 am
    A Finnish MP is being investigated by police for hate speech (2 year prison term) for questioning why the state church sponsors Helsinki’s gay pride march and quoting the Bible in a Tweet.

    I thought the Finns fought against Communism … they used to do.

    They need to be fighting global government because that is the driving force behind this shite.

  100. C.L.

    Best wishes to you, Delta.

  101. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I don’t mind the occasional gin and tonic with lime as a social thing, but I find I get quite upset a few days AFTER drinking gin if I ever drink enough to actually feel drunk.

    Three pub G & T’s on Friday nite, and two standard drinks of red when I got home, left me feeling rather seedy yesterday morning, but not at all miserable. G & T is my preferred drink on social occasions, for it is civilized and relaxing and in fact quite up-cheering. It is hopeless though if you are feeling down. When my first marriage busted, I consumed half a big bottle of gin in the aftermath, and wept my way through the next week. Not recommended.

    Vodka? Tasteless and useless. I rarely have it, except in tomato juice as a pick-me-up on long flights.

    Spirits in general? There is nothing like a Margarita, tequila with orange liqueur and lime and lots of encrusted salt on the glass. It turns you into Audrey Hepburn in a flash, replete with long gloves and waving cigarette holder, with the man from Tiffany’s showing you a range of the latest diamonds.

  102. Cassie of Sydney

    “The footage resurfaced this week, but Ms Keating – now 37 – has stayed in hiding
    Even her dad, ex-Labor prime minister Paul Keating, wouldn’t answer questions”

    When it comes to the Keating children…the rotten apples have not fallen far from the tree.

  103. max

    Third-Rate Communist Historian Dies. Liberal Media Fawn.
    Gary North – August 24, 2019

    Eric Hobsbawm died on October 1, 2012. He was a hack.

    One of the marks of a third-rate intellectual class is its inability to distinguish solid academic work from propaganda, and even third-rate propaganda.

    On Monday evening, the BBC altered its programme schedule to broadcast an hour-long tribute to an old man who had died aged 95, with fawning contributions from the likes of historian Simon Schama and Labour peer Melvyn Bragg.
    The next day, the Left-leaning Guardian filled not only the front page and the whole of an inside page but also devoted almost its entire G2 Supplement to the news. The Times devoted a leading article to the death, and a two-page obituary.
    You might imagine, given all this coverage and the fact that Tony Blair and Ed Miliband also went out of their way to pay tribute, that the nation was in mourning. . . .

    Eric Hobsbawm took part in one of the most extraordinary conversations ever on British television. Speaking in 1994 to the author Michael Ignatieff about the fall of the Berlin Wall five years earlier, the historian was asked how he felt about his earlier support for the Soviet Union.
    If Communism had achieved its aims, but at the cost of, say, 15 to 20 million people – as opposed to the 100million it actually killed in Russia and China – would Hobsbawm have supported it? His answer was a single word: ‘Yes’. . . .
    Just imagine what would happen if some crazed Right-winger were to appear on BBC and say that the Nazis had been justified in killing six million….in order to achieve their aims. We should be horrified, and consider that such a person should never be allowed to speak in public again – or at least until he retracted his repellent views and admitted that he had been culpably, basely, wrong.
    Yet the awful thing about the phenomenon of Eric Hobsbawm is that the exact opposite to this is what happened.
    He was awarded a Companion of Honour by Tony Blair – one of the highest accolades it is possible to bestow upon a British intellectual. A professor of history, he was regularly lionised on the BBC and in the liberal newspapers as our ‘greatest’ historian.

    https://www.garynorth.com/public/19875.cfm

  104. dover_beach

    When the Barely Possible Counts Against You

    Good to see others are joining me in disbelief that ‘possibility’ appears enough to allay all reasonable doubt in criminal trials, at least where Catholics are concerned.

  105. Johno

    It’s the attachment for loading five round clips into a S.L.R. mag, rather then having to load the rounds individually
    Never ever saw one. How big is it?

  106. egg_

    The couch outraged at the suggestion that renewables are destabilising the electricity grid.

    They don’t seem to comprehend that ruinables are not baseload.
    Willful ignorance?

  107. dover_beach

    Get well soon, Delta.

  108. Johno

    Who will win? The Bullies or the Crows?

  109. egg_

    How Katherine Keating used her status as PM’s daughter to befriend royals

    Bed?

  110. areff

    Good to see you back and posting again, Ellie.

    She posts, therefore she is [OK]

  111. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Never ever saw one. How big is it

    About half the size of a packet of cigarettes – slotted onto the top of a S.L.R. magazine, and it held the clips in place as you pushed the rounds into the magazine.

  112. bespoke

    At the end of the day all that matter is the support from those around you to keep you going under. It’s credit to to your family but also to you who inspired them Delta.

  113. Roger

    They don’t seem to comprehend that ruinables are not baseload. Willful ignorance?

    Some environmentalist academics did some computer modelling and proved that base load is a myth.

    Apparently.

  114. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Full of good food, good wine, leccie blanket on, two good novels waiting on Kindle … 11 000 steps today, 14.5 kg down from my starting weight

    Life is sounding pretty good there last night, Bruce in WA.
    A bit of comfort, a sense of well-being and a good read; nothing beats that.

  115. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    She posts, therefore she is [OK]

    Seconded.

    Girls R Us. 🙂

  116. areff

    Vodka? Tasteless and useless. I rarely have it, except in tomato juice as a pick-me-up on long flights.

    I started drinking vodka with a squeeze of lemon some months ago, largely in the belief that it has minimal calories and would aid my efforts to restore the Adonis-like figure of my youth. It should be sipped, however, not skolled, as I discovered when, for reasons I still can’t quite grasp, a female friend cancelled our plans for the weekend at the last moment.

    A disgraceful scene followed — and something of an education, too.

    Who knew that sliding to the kitchen floor and threatening to take your clothes off in protest amounted to “stalking”?

  117. mh

    When it comes to the Keating children…the rotten apples have not fallen far from the tree.

    Paul Keating is working for the ChiComs and openly fighting against Australian interests. We all know that.

    But remember how he would carry on about Australia not have an Australian ‘head of state’, as if himself and his cohorts were patriots and put Australia first. The exact opposite is true of Keating and the Republican movement.

  118. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Cheers, Delta. Christmas is coming soon.
    I am so glad your Best Man is being a hero too.
    A tough time for you both.

  119. Cassie of Sydney

    “areff
    #3140347, posted on August 25, 2019 at 10:22 am
    Good to see you back and posting again, Ellie.

    She posts, therefore she is [OK]”

    I second that….go Ellie….good to see you here.

  120. Stimpson J. Cat

    Thank you, everyone, for your encouragement and kind wishes.

    Delta take it easy and rest up.
    If you need me to send nudes let me know.
    I send them to Sinc every time he’s sick and it really seems to lift his spirits,
    almost immediately I get urgent messages back stating how much better he is feeling and that everything is fine and to please stop sending them.

  121. Entropy

    How Katherine Keating used her status as PM’s daughter to befriend royals

    The political class operate on an entirely different plane to the ordinary pleb. That said, I think her visit is merely a reflection of that, and that this particular article is example eventually gazillion of scum, gutter press, low life journalism.
    Dogs return to their vomit, journalists write articles like this.

  122. egg_

    computer modelling and proved that base load is a myth.

    gas turbines burning a wide range of renewable liquid and gaseous fuels are commercially available on a large scale.

    Somehow gas turbines are ruinables?
    Seems to be the con.
    Nevermind that there seems to be a square law of the cost of ruinables penetration.
    Financial clods* seem to have difficulty with non-linear mathematics.

    *Part of the carbon cabal.

  123. cohenite

    List of information and details to be released about the wussia conspiracy and the various shenanigans by the swamp.

    I still reckon nothing will happen to any swamp creature.

  124. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    A disgraceful scene followed — and something of an education, too.

    Areff, men are never too old to learn. They’ll even make the same mistake twice.
    And women will always undertake to instruct them.

    It’s what we do. 🙂

  125. areff

    Oh, and by the way, vodka works. Waist on my jeans has shrunk from 102cm to 92cm. Think I’ll start a rival to WeightWatchers — working title WeightHoochers, with regular tipplers’ meetings and a trademarked distillation delivered weekly to your doorstep.

    And if it doesn’t work, no worries.

    You’re still fat but pissed and happy anyway.

  126. egg_

    I think her visit is merely a reflection of that

    Projection.

  127. Entropy

    A friend’s daughter got a scholarship to the Bolshoi a few years ago.
    The dragons running the company spent a lot of time complaining she was too fat (compared to my very active dance daughters she is a stick insect) and she should be like the other girls. Apparently their diet consisted of lettuce for fibre and vodka for the carbs. At 16-17.

  128. notafan

    All the best Delta.

    It’s amazing yet expectable how loving family rise to the occasion.

  129. The couch outraged at the suggestion that renewables are destabilising the electricity grid.

    Any Climate Tears?

  130. Some History

    Apparently their diet consisted of lettuce for fibre and vodka for the carbs. At 16-17.

    Lettuce with bacon embellishment.

    https://imgur.com/ES1yR7T

  131. areff

    I don’t mind a bit of female instruction, Lizzie, as the distaff set is very good with advice about the need for clean windows, the unsightliness of dry elbows, ugly toenails and the suburbs to which men, blind to the bogan atmosphere of the suburb in which they choose to live, insist on inviting their far more refined paramours.

    That I ‘get’.

    What baffles and dismays is the female assumption that men are blessed with the same unspoken insights that inform their own decisions. Really, us XYers are so often in the dark, with all subsequent requests for enlightenment met by an offended, appalled silence, as in ‘How could you be stumped by a decision I shouldn’t have to explain and won’t’.

    Honestly, the best argument for male sodomy is women.

  132. Some History

    Apparently their diet consisted of lettuce for fibre and vodka for the carbs. At 16-17.

    https://imgur.com/QDcDTMn

  133. Leigh Lowe

    Top Ender

    #3140367, posted on August 25, 2019 at 10:44 am

    Reminder.

    Don’t use flamethrowers in your garden

    Who hasn’t used a bit of accelerant in the garden, and occasionally had a bit of collateral overspray?

  134. Cassie of Sydney

    Delta….all the best and keep strong. Remember…Christmas is not far away.

  135. Stimpson J. Cat

    Also Delta you should be using this time constructively for shopping, specifically research.

    For example…

    Aesthetics are important.

  136. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    flamethrowers

    Flamethrowers? I hadn’t thought of that. From our verandah.
    A flamethrower accident on an unwanted tree could be very helpful.
    Trouble is I just might set our neighbours house on fire. Or ours.
    And Hairy would be sure to object anyway, being such a stickler for legality.

    Can you hire them from Kennards?

  137. johanna

    cohenite, the scare propaganda about the Amazon burning has been going on for nearly as long as the terminal state of the Great Barrier Reef. Take no notice.

    An interesting piece about dinosaur research at TheirABC, but as usual polluted by statism, here:

    The golden age of dinosaur discovery is now

    In the past few decades there’s been an explosion of dinosaur discoveries, Dr Brusatte says.

    “It really is a golden age. People are finding more species of dinosaur than ever before.”

    Palaeontologist Jon Tennant’s research shows just how dramatic the recent rise in discoveries has been.

    Dr Tennant was originally trawling through the Paleobiology database — an electronic record of every fossil documented via publication in an academic journal — looking for evidence of dinosaur extinction events other than the one that wiped non-avian dinosaurs off the planet.

    “I was just sort of playing around one day when I decided to see what would happen if we looked at it from a slightly different angle,” he recalls.

    Instead of considering dinosaur fossils relative to dinosaur history — when in time and where these dinosaurs lived — Dr Tennant began to analyse the discovery of these fossils relative to our own human history.

    The records revealed a slow and incremental growth in new discoveries in the 100 years following the first flurry, known as the Great Dinosaur Rush or Bone Wars, in the 1880s.

    “But then around the 1990s something strange happened, and we see this this huge explosive growth in the number of discoveries.”

    All good stuff. But of course they couldn’t leave it at that:

    Dr Brusatte doesn’t pull punches when it comes to fossil poaching.

    “Simply put, it’s wrong because it’s against the law,” he says. “I’m not saying people can’t go out and find fossils, or that you have to be a scientist or academic. What I am saying is, no matter who you are, you’ve got to follow the law.”

    Trading in black market fossils also creates problems for researchers and academics as the legitimacy of fossils held in private collections is brought into question.

    Peer review is the backbone of modern science. And the concern among some palaeontologists is that fossil specimens held in private collections threaten to undermine the scientific method.

    “Most journals these days say if you want to publish on a new specimen, the data — in this case a dinosaur fossil — has to be publicly accessible,” Dr Tennant says.

    While private fossils might be available to some researchers, there’s no guarantee they’ll be available in perpetuity to any researchers who want to study them.

    “As scientists we have to do repeatable work,” Dr Brusatte explains.

    “And it’s impossible to do proper scrupulous science on a fossil that’s not guaranteed to be available to other scientists.”

    Yup, all your fossils bilong us.

    These morons know nothing about the history of natural science, which is founded on people finding stuff and studying it at their own expense. All those Victorian amateurs who collected, collated, classified and studied the natural world would now be regarded as criminals and vandals.

    We see this statist trend against the general public all the time. If you find something of interest on your property, chances are that it, and the property it is on, will be effectively expropriated by the Powers That Be in the name of preservation and scientific research. If that attitude had prevailed in the C19th, natural science research would have come to a standstill.

    The effect is that anyone who finds something of interest is best advised to shut up and never mention it again in public. That is exactly what my olds did when they found evidence of Aboriginal occupation on their property in the Blue Mountains a long time ago. It was a grinding groove in sandstone. They swore me to secrecy and covered it in leaf mulch. Wise move, from their point of view, but how much is the progress of knowledge being impeded by the certainty that if you publicise your find, you will be punished in material terms? And, who appointed these people to be in charge of other people’s property?

    In re dinosaurs, kids have always been fascinated by them – I was. My How and Why Wonder book on dinosaurs fell apart from use. Recently a four year old grand-nephew was visiting, and all he could talk about were the dinosaur displays at Questacon. Maybe a faint echo of evolutionary memory?

  138. Farmer Gez

    The daughter scored a coach’s award for netball last night and it got me to thinking that Vicpol and the OPP should get the same award for the Pell prosecution. An average player needs all the help they can get.

  139. egg_

    The couch outraged at the suggestion that renewables are destabilising the electricity grid.

    Any Climate Tears?

    Murph “read the report” that Stutch was talking about.
    So, creaking baseload coal must be a myth easily solved by more ruinables, apparently.
    Popcorn, anyone?

  140. Zatara

    “Most journals these days say if you want to publish on a new specimen, the data — in this case a dinosaur fossil — has to be publicly accessible,” Dr Tennant says.

    Unlike say… untampered-with temperature records?

  141. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Honestly, the best argument for male sodomy is women.

    That is no argument at all. We are yours for the taking, and so much nicer.
    You just have to Follow the Rules:

    Praise us. Admire us. Pet us. Help us to lift heavy objects. Develop the skill of pretending to listen attentively to us. And we are then pleased to check your windows, elbows and toenails with the complementarity we bring to the decreed evolutionary arrangements that have drawn men and women together since the dawn of time. Follow the rules, and you are in the race to be graciously admitted to our secret places and domains, the like of which you started to comprehend as a lad and have continued to desire to have and to comprehend; often without success, but never with a loss of the longing.

  142. areff

    and so much nicer.

    Really, Lizzie? Uncaring, self-righteous caprice is a virtue?

  143. mh

    You just have to Follow the Rules:

    Lizzie, only you could lose the debate ‘The best argument for male sodomy is women’.

  144. johanna

    Top Ender
    #3140337, posted on August 25, 2019 at 10:11 am

    Get Timmy onto them, I say:

    Enid Blyton was denied the honour of a commemorative coin after Royal Mint bosses branded the creator of the Famous Five and Secret Seven novels a ‘racist homophobe’

    And so on goes the obliteration of history.

    At my primary school, there was a shelf and a half of Enid Blyton books, and I read every one. It did not turn me into a racist homophobe, nor anyone else I went to school with, AFAIK.

    I am amused about the ‘homophobe’ bit, because the female character called George could well have been an embryonic lesbian. Or, she could have just been a tomboy.

    I feel sorry for kids today looking for stuff to read. As a 10 year old, I didn’t give a fig about reading inspiring tales of how a gender confused kid fought racism. Action, adventure, and believable characters were top of the list. Oh, well.

  145. Leigh Lowe

    Really, Lizzie? Uncaring, self-righteous caprice is a virtue?

    Ooooohhhhh!
    Early for wodka innit?

  146. egg_

    Ms Keating also hosted a YouTube interview series for The Huffington Post called One On One, which in 2014 featured Ghislaine Maxwell, Epstein’s former girlfriend who is alleged to have helped procure underage “sex slaves”.

    In the accompanying article written by Ms Keating for The Huffington Post website, she describes Ms Maxwell as a “passionate deep-sea diver” who “devotes considerable energy to raising awareness and focusing attention on the issues surrounding oceans”.

    “Ghislaine Maxwell is a British philanthropist and the founder of the TerraMar Project, a nonprofit organization dedicated to building a global community that will advocate for the world’s oceans and high seas,” Ms Keating wrote.

    “Ghislaine believes there is no better or more important place for these issues to come to a head than the United Nations, but what has been lacking is a big movement from the global community.”

    How long til Maxwell Arkancides?

  147. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Homophobic slurs between jurors lead to terror trial being aborted

    A major terrorism trial, in the case of a teen accused of buying a hunting knife to murder civilians in an Islamic State-inspired attack, had to be aborted after jurors clashed after four days of deliberations.
    Brenden Hills, Court Reporter, The Sunday Telegraph
    Subscriber only

    The NSW Supreme Court jury had retired to consider its verdict in the case of a teenager accused of buying a hunting knife to murder civilians in an Islamic State-inspired attack in 2016.

    But in a rare insight into the workings of the jury room, tensions boiled over after four days of deliberations during a clash involving a whiteboard and marker.

    The trial ended on August 13 with one of the jury hurling homophobic slurs at the foreman, sinking the case at a huge cost to taxpayers.

    The foreman told the judge in a note that a female juror had “pointed her finger at me and screwed her face up and said, ‘You’re just a big gay that likes to take it up the a…’”.

  148. areff

    Early for wodka innit?

    The spirit of aggrieved bafflement is enough at this time of day.

  149. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Homophobic slurs between jurors lead to [email protected] trial being aborted

    A major terrorism trial, in the case of a teen accused of buying a hunting knife to murder civilians in an Izlamic State-inspired attack, had to be aborted after jurors clashed after four days of deliberations.
    Brenden Hills, Court Reporter, The Sunday Telegraph
    Subscriber only

    The NSW Supreme Court jury had retired to consider its verdict in the case of a teenager accused of buying a hunting knife to murder civilians in an Izlamic State-inspired attack in 2016.

    But in a rare insight into the workings of the jury room, tensions boiled over after four days of deliberations during a clash involving a whiteboard and marker.

    The trial ended on August 13 with one of the jury hurling homophobic slurs at the foreman, sinking the case at a huge cost to taxpayers.

    The foreman told the judge in a note that a female juror had “pointed her finger at me and screwed her face up and said, ‘You’re just a big gay that likes to take it up the a…’”.

  150. johanna

    You just have to Follow the Rules:

    Praise us. Admire us. Pet us. Help us to lift heavy objects. Develop the skill of pretending to listen attentively to us.

    And don’t forget, shower us with diamonds.

    FMD, what a high maintenance nightmare you are.

    I can assure readers that I have had no shortage of high quality men, some of whom wanted to marry me, without demanding any of the above, except the help in lifting heavy objects for a sensible purpose, not because you’ve decided to rearrange the furniture for the umpteenth time.

    My philosophy has always been to live and let live, unless you cheat on me in violation of the agreement. Then, I will sack you on the spot. Other than that, my self esteem is not so low that I require to be treated like a spoiled chihuaha. In fact, that would be very demeaning.

  151. Sinclair Davidson

    Lizzie – well done. That’s poetry.

  152. MatrixTransform

    the wymynsys can do anything.

    …except get from the airport to Chelsea via the Eastern and the M3….and make a toastie

    gave very explicit instructions to the MIL last night.
    out the eastern, through the tunnel the M3 turns south keep going past the Monash past Cheltenham Rd past Greens get off at Thompson.

    So… she get the Eastern and gets off at Thompson Rd Bulleen realises and backtracks
    Goes through the tunnel and figures she’s gone too far so ends up in Ringwood on the phone.
    There’s tears

    I guide her back to the M3 and finally after 2 hrs of zig zaggin she gets here and just starts talking.
    doesnt stop talking even when asleep.

    Mean while the Crazy Old Mole (that’s my dearest and the MILs daughter) has put the dishwasher on but didnt remove the wrapper form the detergent tablet ( yep, thats my fault )
    She’s then made mum a toastie in the sandwich press … and Im standing there with a single piece of buttered bread in my hand going WFT?

    The Crazy One’s laughing at me going like what are you doing I ve already put the sandwich in…. hah ha menz so stoopid !!!

    I just said … open the toaster woman.

    Bread stuck to the bottom.
    cheese tomato and salami stuck to the top.

    MIL …she just left .

    …I had to reverse the Audi out the driveway for her.

    she’ has a new set of instructions and the daughter can giude her in at the other end

    dunno why she doesnt just learn to use the built-in nav?

    …probably because it keeps interrupting what ever she’s saying

  153. bespoke

    Action, adventure, and believable characters were top of the list. Oh, well.

    Yep, real life beats fantasy for inspiration.

  154. Leigh Lowe

    The spirit of aggrieved bafflement is enough at this time of day.

    Gonna get worse when the Crows roll the Bullies.

  155. Stimpson J. Cat

    Follow the rules, and you are in the race to be graciously admitted to our secret places and domains

    Why the hell would I need to use the kitchen or the bathroom?
    And in 2019 it’s actually only the bathroom anyway.

    😁

  156. Sinclair Davidson

    So here is the moral dilemma – if the Doggies beat Adelaide (a usually desirable outcome) today the Bombers probably play West Coast in Perth. Not a desirable outcome. But that does mean that Worsfold who is a West Coast premiership captain and premiership coach has to lead the Bombers to victory against his own old team and in his home town to secure his legacy as an Essendon coach.

  157. Sinclair Davidson

    … and of course – a Doggies victory would bump out Hawthorn.

  158. Johno:

    Another thing that shit me about that war was that there was a little attachment made for the SLR mags which enabled you to load full clips into the mag. The DOD were to cheap to buy them for a couple of cents each.As a consequence we had to load each individual round into the mags.
    Cheap bastards.

    Are you talking about stripper clips?
    Xmissus thought they were great for loading my .308 mags – didn’t chip her nails.

  159. Leigh Lowe

    On current form there should not be a final eight.

  160. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    us XYers are so often in the dark

    We double X’s are often in a bind with you lot, too. Why doesn’t he say something? we think, after our long exposition on some conflicting aspects of our relationship. Surely he can see this? we say to ourselves about the need to carefully consider the complex logistics we immediately discern in any mooted endeavour. Was he asleep or something? we say wonder, astounded that the XY brain cannot see why the woman in that movie burst into tears at that moment. What’s going on inside that head now? we ponder as the XY sits there attentively wrapt in the detail of where that foot and that hand went in that endless game of cricket.

  161. Delta A:

    My outlook and aspirations have changed entirely: instead of more travel and good times, my short term goals are to avoid falls and to be walking by Christmas.

    These are good goals – especially when drinking.

  162. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    secret places and domains

    Metaphors, Stimps, metaphors.

    You can do anything with ’em. 🙂

  163. Boambee John

    Roger
    #3140314, posted on August 25, 2019 at 9:37 am
    A Finnish MP is being investigated by police for hate speech (2 year prison term) for questioning why the state church sponsors Helsinki’s gay pride march and quoting the Bible in a Tweet.

    It is not inconceivable that in some Western countries the Bible will soon be banned.

    You’ll still be able to buy a Koran, though.

    Time for Christians to get ahead of the curve on this one.

    Whenever quoting the Bible on such matters, be sure to start off “As both the Bible and the Koran state … “

  164. Colonel Crispin Berka

    I might try the White Birch again, it’s probably a good idea for Christmas.
    https://www.ruskiwaydeli.com.au/

    Repeat after me, Tel.

    “I drank with the Russians, but I did not collude.”

  165. areff

    a Doggies victory would bump out Hawthorn.

    The Mayblooms deserve it for turning out in last night’s ugly jumpers.

    LL: It’ll be eight degrees today in Ballarat — colder than the heart of the woman you thought you knew. Add some howling wind and, yes, anything could happen.

  166. Boambee John

    Nick

    Snap, just catching up.

  167. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    dunno why she doesnt just learn to use the built-in nav?

    The built-in navigation system in the Audi is Germany’s revenge on the world. It defies rational analysis and will does some very strange things. Jeremy Clarkson found it hateful. So do I.

  168. johanna

    TheirABC plumbs new depths of mindlessness, here:

    A Queensland woman says she has buried more than 40 dead birds she believes were burnt in the Bribie Island fire after she found them washed up on a Sunshine Coast beach.
    Key Points:

    Dozens of dead, badly burnt birds washed up on Currimundi Beach
    A Queensland woman who was walking her dog buried the birds and posted a photo on Facebook
    She believes they were burnt in the Bribie Island fire, which crews are still monitoring

    Leisl Born was walking her dog at Currimundi Beach, near Caloundra, early this morning, when she came across 43 badly burnt birds among ash and charred debris on the sand.

    “It took me a while to figure out why [my dog] was so skittish around the burnt debris lining the beach, then I realised there were little dead bodies everywhere,” she said.

    “There were quite a few different breeds, from really small birds to larger ones.

    “[I] gave them a send-off with burials overlooking the beach.”

    The upsetting discovery comes after approximately 30 dead wallabies and kangaroos were found along the eastern beach at Bribie Island on Friday after wildfires began burning on Wednesday.

    Yep, this is of national importance. When there is a bushfire, birds die. Who knew?

    And, as for her dog not wanting to go near the barbequed birds, what kind of dog does that? A real dog would be sniffing and munching and generally as happy as a pig in mud. I call BS.

    A few burnt birds is apparently an ‘upsetting discovery.’ Gawd help her if she ever saw the consequences of a serious bushfire. But, TheirABC is heavily into feelz.

  169. thefrollickingmole

    An article constructed almost purely from lies?
    In MY Gruiniad?

    How children became the target in a rightwing culture war over gender
    Medical treatment for transgender children is cautious and evidence-based, but the conservative reaction has become increasingly hysterical

    some samples…

    Evie is like many 14-year-old girls. After school she likes to hang out with her friends, or go home and watch Netflix. She says she would like to focus on her studies, but almost every day she has to fill out bullying reports.
    At the age of nine she transitioned, saying she always knew she was a girl but was assigned male at birth.

    Yes because pumping your body with hormones while surrounded by people telling you its “right” wont fuck a kids head up at all…

    In August, Evie returned to high school in Melbourne after six weeks filming a new TV show, First Day,

    Again, the kid is becoming famous while surrounded by people saying they are correct in mutilating themselves, this is not a good thing.

    The peak body for healthcare for trans and gender diverse people, the Australian Professional Association for Trans Health (AusPATH), called the Australian’s coverage “biased, emotive, and is not based on fact”.

    So a group dedicated to pushing trans agendas and denying biological reality is going to lecture on facts… riight.
    ….
    Children like Evie are referred to the gender service at Royal Children’s Hospital in Melbourne (RCH), where, after assessment, they can go through social transition before puberty, and go on to have puberty blockers and hormone therapy as part of their transition.

    Surgery does not commonly occur before a person turns 18, according to RCH.

    So pumped full of hormones, sterilized before the age of 18 if the want it, great.

    The guide endorses gender-affirming care, based on available evidence and clinician consensus.

    Awesome, in effect they wont be told “this is a bad idea, wait till you are grown up” but “affirmed”.

    The rate of people who have regret over transitioning is very small, Telfer said, between 0.3% and 0.6% according to a recent comprehensive Dutch study.

    Lets play “cherry pick the studies shall we?? I suppose if you refuse to count suicide as the “ultimate detransition” you can wriggle your figures way down.
    https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885
    Conclusions
    Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group.


    She said not providing treatment presents greater risk, including increased depression, increased anxiety and increased suicide risk.

    Falling back on pedophrasty, “do what we want or the kid will get it”.

    People who work in the area say the massive increase in the number of children referred to RCH in the past decade is due to increased public awareness but those who say it is a cause of alarm call it a “social contagion”, a theory based on a study that has recently been discredited.

    The bolded bit is a link to buzzfeed, it describes how orthodox thinking on this as a mental health issue has been deliberately crippled by removing cock chopping as a mental illness.
    They effectively defined it as normal therefore its not a disorder…

    The first signs of this new culture war emerged during the postal survey on marriage equality. Instead of focusing on the arguments around marriage, the Coalition For Marriage’s failed campaign focused on gender. Mothers appeared on TV warning their boys were told they could wear dresses to school and a children’s book called The Gender Fairy by advocate and author Jo Hirst featured in their campaign.

    Hirst, who actively monitors how trans issues are covered globally, told Guardian Australia the progression of the debate since then was familiar.

    “Much of the media we are seeing here in Australia echoes the UK with the target firmly set on anyone who supports trans young people, parents of trans people, educators, support groups and clinicians,” she said.

    Hirst is a mentally ill person trying to normalize their mental illness in order to feel “normal”.
    It wont work but he will inflict great suffering on others in order to make itself feel better.
    She lives by the seaside in Melbourne, Australia, with her partner and two sons. One of whom is transgender.

    Many of the sources cited by the local critics are the same fringe sources quoted overseas. The submission sent to the health minister, Greg Hunt, calling for a national inquiry on the matter – and duly reported by the Australian – quotes the American College of Paediatricians – not to be confused with the medical association, American Academy of Pediatrics – among others. The group is classified as an anti-LGBT hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Centre.

    That would be the scam organisation which has no credibility beyond gulling fools into making donations to its wealthy owners.

    The chief executive of the LGBTIQA+ suicide prevention service Switchboard, Joe Ball, said calls to the service had been increasing in the almost two years since the postal survey, and the past two months had been tracking higher than the months of July and August last year. They said the media coverage had created an “authorising environment” for people to target gay and transgender people.

    Or people have realized just how far down the slippery slope we are when chemically castrating and allowing kids to surgically mutilate themselves is seen as something “brave” to be “celebrated’ while being cheered on by some pretty awful people.

    Evie said the journalists covering it have not walked in her shoes.

    “They don’t know what it’s like to ever question their identity so instead of worrying about things that don’t concern them, just be kind,” she said. “Even though, almost daily, I deal with bullying, I try to live my life as best as I can.”

    No-one has done you a favor by allowing you to continue in the delusion you are a girl.

    RTWT its an awful article full of evasions and appeals to obviously biased authority, all stemming from removing transgender-ism as a form of mental illness.

  170. thefrollickingmole

    Sinc can you please save a comment from the spam machine.
    Its miles long and i lack the will to retype the whole thing.

  171. Des Deskperson

    Ten News last night invited us into the Sydney Harbourside mansion of the late Bob Hawke.

    The house was open so that prospective buyers could look over his effects, which are to be auctioned sometime soon, but it seems that many admirers just came to pay their respects to ‘The People’s Prime Minister’ and to look at ‘his many possessions’

    The Ten reporter strung those last two phrases together without any appearance of irony or sarcasm.

    Some of ‘The People’ interviewed were gobsmacked by the size and luxury of the manor.

    The repulsive Blanche was blubbering and simpering, which makes me wonder why she is selling up his stuff. Surely she could get a government grant to build a shrine.

    The collection included lots of art, much of seeming to be to portraits of Bob.

    the came .

  172. jupes

    … and of course – a Doggies victory would bump out Hawthorn.

    And … and of course … a Lions victory would bump out Richmond from the top four.

    I can only hope.

  173. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The Ten reporter strung those last two phrases together without any appearance of irony or sarcasm.

    Bob Hawke used to be quite partial to Havana cigars – it didn’t suit his image as the “little Aussie battler” so there was a ban on him being photographed smoking one. When he and Hazel moved into the Lodge, they took their butler with them…

  174. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Lizzie – well done. That’s poetry.

    Why thank you, Doomlord.
    Vogan stuff of course, but I try.

    Always brings out the usual suspects. 😀

  175. Stimpson J. Cat

    Oh, and by the way, vodka works. Waist on my jeans has shrunk from 102cm to 92cm. Think I’ll start a rival to WeightWatchers — working title WeightHoochers, with regular tipplers’ meetings and a trademarked distillation delivered weekly to your doorstep.
    And if it doesn’t work, no worries.
    You’re still fat but pissed and happy anyway.

    Try the Stimpy Solution.
    Look, all you need to do is stop eating heavily processed foods, stop drinking soft drink, stop smoking, stop drinking alcohol, drink lots of water, only eat one large meal a day between 4.00-6.00pm, and do lots of body weight exercises.
    Really basic stuff, literally anyone can do it.
    Very easy.
    You don’t have to be crazy.
    😂

  176. bespoke

    Blessed are the peacemakers: thoughts on mass shootings and American division

    I don’t feel this way because I care more about a southern white guy than say, a black woman from Los Angeles. I feel this way because when the shooter is a white male right wing nut, I feel like a little bit of the blame, real or imagined, falls on my shoulders. Regardless of the validity of the killer’s understanding and perceptions of the President, the GOP, or anything I support, I automatically fear that media will extrapolate his evil and radical beliefs to me. Certainly, this feeling is not unique to southern white men like me.

    Without a doubt, I am not the only person who feels this way. Of course I feel this way, I have been conditioned to. We live in a society that is utterly obsessed with that which divides us. We are increasingly defined by biological and cultural factors that have no application to our personal character . Are you a POC? How about a member of the LGBTQ community? Or are you a white-nationalist? We perceive the world through the prism of our biological and political differences more-so today than at any other point in my short 24 years on this planet.

    h/t instapundit

  177. egg_

    For the daughter of the Labor Party’s most prominent republican, Katherine Keating was remarkably chummy with the British royal family.

    Que?

  178. bespoke

    Look, all you need to do is stop eating heavily processed foods, stop drinking soft drink, stop smoking, stop drinking alcohol, drink lots of water, only eat one large meal a day between 4.00-6.00pm, and do lots of body weight exercises.

    No Id rather be happy with the time I have.

  179. Top Ender

    From memory Hawkie was prone to greeting people at his door sans clothes.

    Perfectly normal of course.

  180. egg_

    Keating’s entree into this elite world appears to have been an older boyfriend, Andre Balazs, whose ownership of Los Angeles’ Chateau Marmont hotel made him a kind of landlord of celebrity debauchery

  181. C.L.

    Trading in black market fossils also creates problems for researchers and academics as the legitimacy of fossils held in private collections is brought into question.

    LOL.
    “Black market fossils” now.
    Right up there with “counterfeit cigarettes.”

    The effect is that anyone who finds something of interest is best advised to shut up and never mention it again in public.

    I have heard tell of Aboriginal paintings discovered on cattle properties being bulldozed.
    It’s sad, if true, but people are entitled to protect their livelihoods and their property.

  182. johanna

    Why doesn’t he say something? we think, after our long exposition on some conflicting aspects of our relationship

    OMG, you were lucky to find that masochist.

    FFS, I don’t want to have D & Ms about our ‘relationship’ at any time, let alone in the middle of the night. That needy, pathetic whining is as off putting to me as it is to most men. Yuk.

    Oh, and I don’t care about the toilet seat, although most of my blokes apparently did, bless them. It’s not a deal-breaker, though.

    When I read about young people hooking up for sex with people they don’t know on their phones, and then wondering why they are unhappy, I despair. What mindset made them imagine that this was the path to … well, anything? Other than disappointment. 🙁

  183. thefrollickingmole

    An article constructed almost purely from lies?
    In MY Gruiniad?

    How children became the target in a rightwing culture war over gender
    Medical treatment for transgender children is cautious and evidence-based, but the conservative reaction has become increasingly hysterical

  184. Top Ender

    Die you bastard and stop leeching taxpayer money!

    Notorious serial killer Ivan Milat has written to the media from Long Bay jail hospital, claiming he is innocent of the murder of seven backpackers.

    In a three-page handwritten letter dated July 11 and sent to Nine Newspapers, the 74-year-old says his life since being arrested and convicted “has been devoted wholly to prove my innocence …(and) the court judiciary who conspired to obscure the miscarriages of justice”.

    Milat was found guilty in 1996 of murdering seven backpackers whose bodies were found in makeshift graves in Belanglo State Forest in the 1990s. He was transferred back to Long Bay jail hospital last weekend after spending more than a week at Prince of Wales Hospital in Randwick.

    Ivan Milat’s seven victims. Picture: AAP

    He spent another two weeks at the hospital in May when he was diagnosed with oesophagus and stomach cancer.

    “I am sure that you are aware of how cancer is, it’s a grim finding and less than fifty per cent survive it and, I feel that the unpredictability of the effect of the treatment would overtake any commentary by me of it,” Milat writes in the letter published on Sunday. “It is in the hands of my carers (doctors etc) and of course, Our Lord in Heaven.”

    AAP

  185. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Lizzie, only you could lose the debate ‘The best argument for male sodomy is women’.

    That depends upon the adjudicator, mh

    Sinc is my choice. 🙂

  186. Stimpson J. Cat

    No Id rather be happy with the time I have.

    You actually need smoking, alcohol, processed foods, soft drink, and more than 1 meal a day to be happy?
    Really?

    And people call me mentally ill.
    😂

  187. cuckoo

    How long til Maxwell Arkancides?

    It could hardly be stranger than the way her father met his end. As the joke went at the time, he was on the yacht with a dim Irish slapper and he asked her to toss him off…so she did.

  188. Entropy

    And, as for her dog not wanting to go near the barbequed birds, what kind of dog does that? A real dog would be sniffing and munching and generally as happy as a pig in mud. I call BS.

    I recall when I was a kid one of my parents’ annoying vegan [but I repeat myself] friends brought their equally annoying rat like excuse for a dog ( Maltese terrier with pink bow on top of head) to a BBQ. Said dog got hold of a sausage from some evil child who shall remain nameless, and then growled and snapped at its owner as she tried to get the sausage away from it.
    “ I don’t understand it, she’s a vegetarian doggie!” She cried.

  189. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Really, Lizzie? Uncaring, self-righteous caprice is a virtue?

    Of course not. It’s hurtful.

    You are being brave, and it will pass.
    Most hurts diminish with time’s perspective.

  190. cuckoo

    The repulsive Blanche was blubbering and simpering

    SBS ran a piece about the one-year commemoration of Hawke’s death by the Cambodian community. You would have thought he was being elevated to godhead, a la Colonel Kurtz.

  191. Entropy

    You actually need smoking, alcohol, processed foods, soft drink, and more than 1 meal a day to be happy?
    Really?

    Sounds like a good start.

  192. Steve trickler

    The Climate Prophets Have Spoken! Hahaa.

    Heller in fine form.



  193. egg_

    How Katherine Keating used her status as PM’s daughter to befriend royals

    The video likely caught her “Weinstein moment”.
    Did her boyfriend’s hotel have lots of potplants?

  194. Sounds like a good start.

    Cigareets and whusky and wild wild women.

  195. Andreas

    Notorious serial killer Ivan Milat has written to the media from Long Bay jail hospital, claiming he is innocent of the murder of seven backpackers.

    In a three-page handwritten letter dated July 11 and sent to Nine Newspapers, the 74-year-old says his life since being arrested and convicted “has been devoted wholly to prove my innocence …(and) the court judiciary who conspired to obscure the miscarriages of justice”.

    Hang on a minute I thought publishing a letter from jail was a no-no. Or is that yet another thing that only applies to Catholic clergymen?

  196. bespoke

    You actually need smoking, alcohol, processed foods, soft drink, and more than 1 meal a day to be happy?
    Really?

    No but it’s my choice unlike the sin tax’s and fantasies forced upon us by others.

  197. Cassie of Sydney

    “Hang on a minute I thought publishing a letter from jail was a no-no. Or is that yet another thing that only applies to Catholic clergymen?”

    We all know the answer to that.

  198. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Hmm. Apparently there’s a masochist around who is calling me to come and give him a hand.

    Gotta go. The Good Lord alone knows what he wants now.

    hahaha. A tongue lashing! 🙂

  199. Stimpson J. Cat

    Sounds like a good start.

    Look for health reasons what I suggest shouldn’t be attempted until you are at least 25 years old.
    You simply aren’t experienced enough, intelligent enough, and possessing will strong enough to actually make it work until then.
    It’s far easier if you think about all that money you’ll save.

  200. johanna

    On a side note from gruelling politics of the sexual or identity kind – fans of hard core spy shows might be interested.

    I’ve been re-watching The Sandbaggers, a show made in the UK in the late 70s on a miniscule budget. Roy Marsden, later Inspector Dalgleish, is the lead. The under-rated Ray Lonnen is his off-sider.

    It’s about the UK dirty tricks brigade. A lot of it is bureaucratic politics, with a bit of action thrown in. Great acting, ruthless plots. Most of it is on youtube, but I recommend viewing the available episodes on Daily Motion. Much better picture and sound.

    Enjoy!

  201. Howa 1500 10 round magazine – plastic. $115.
    Bloody obscene.

  202. bespoke

    hahaha. A tongue lashing!

    🤷‍♀️

  203. areff

    A tongue lashing!

    Heaven!

    Thoughts articulated! Some chance of learning what the heck is going on inside the XX brain.

  204. thefrollickingmole

    Their ABC is finding out what was common knowledge in refugee circles for decades.

    Pre-overthrow Iraq.
    Iran
    Tamil Tigers
    Pallis.

    All had versions of this scam going on. All because the ‘fugee system is badly broken.
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-25/spies-in-our-suburbs-alleged-spy-web-silencing-rwandan-refugees/11317704

    Expat and refugee Rwandans say silencing critics and suppressing support for opposition parties in exile are among the top priorities of the Rwandan Government.

    Some spies, Mubarak says, are planted in Australia as students because visas are easier to obtain.

    Others, he says, are furnished with documents to help them build a case for asylum, then start working for the regime when they get permanent residency.

    He alleges even more are recruited when they arrive as genuine refugees, having been threatened, blackmailed or coerced to become part of the intelligence network.

    Tamil tigers had it down to an art, sending ex-fighters to Australia to start working and sending back remittances to the group. meanwhile the blokes family is still in Tamil controlled areas as insurance he keeps the money flowing.

    Its alarming how deliberately ignorant of this problem advocates are.

    The ABC has obtained footage of one man who came to Australia as a refugee, pledging allegiance to the country he once fled.

    Holding his right arm up, the chairman of the Rwandan Diaspora of Australia delivers an oath inside Rwanda’s High Commission in Singapore in 2017.

    “I, Emmanuel Karekezi, do solemnly swear to the republic of Rwanda that I will never betray the Rwandan republic and I will honour and observe the constitution and other laws,” he says on camera.

    “In case I don’t honour this call, may I be punished by law. God help me.”

    The ABC has been told Karekezi received asylum status on the basis he was fleeing political persecution in 2004.

    Karekezi confirmed he was now an avid supporter of the country’s governing party, which has been in power since 2000.

    He conceded he was granted a humanitarian visa but denied being recruited to report back to the foreign government. But he acknowledges being aligned with the Government allows him to return to Rwanda freely.

    We all have families we want to see back home.

  205. Leigh Lowe

    LL: It’ll be eight degrees today in Ballarat — colder than the heart of the woman you thought you knew. Add some howling wind and, yes, anything could happen.

    Areff, didn’t the Port Koch-heads put the Doggies to the sword in the ‘rat last year?

  206. John Constantine

    The wymynsys that contacted the media to spoonfeed a story about her burying 40 burnt birds on a beach.

    What is the bet that she staggered about, weeping loudly, picked some little bodies up, put them in a line or pile below the high tide mark and sprinkled loose sand over them.

    Can’t see a shovel and six foot deep gravedigging involved.

    Still, Factual isn’t always Helpful.

  207. areff

    We won’t mention that foray, LL, except to note that the match came at the end of a season of crippling injuries and the youngsters on that day — the now-blooded young men — are more or less the same crew that take the field today.

    https://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2018/19/wb-v-port

  208. Snoopy

    The wymynsys that contacted the media to spoonfeed a story about her burying 40 burnt birds on a beach.

    I’ll take an interest when she finishes burying the roos.

  209. John Constantine

    Imagine their abc if an Abbottsdotter was linked to epstein.

    The billion dollar bully pulpit would be redhot from ragelaunching.

  210. mh

    Six injured after lightning strike at PGA TOUR Championship.

    Blake Manuel
    @Bcicles
    Lightening strike at the FedEx cup championship in Atlanta. Hope everyone is ok. #FedExCup
    https://twitter.com/Bcicles/status/1165368209693974529?s=20

  211. Gab

    Six injured after lightning strike at PGA TOUR Championship.

    God is not fond of golf.

  212. Leigh Lowe

    The AFL excursion into the ‘rat is an appallimg waste of public money.
    It is an hour by train to Melbourne and they play one match there a year (I refuse to count JLTAFLXQWERTY games) It cost them an absolute motzer to build a “stadium” which wouldn’t hold as many as most city training venues.
    But shoring up local ALP MPs.
    Plus jerbs.
    I went past there last year during the only match and it was a sea of fluoro marshalls and helpers shepherding a pitifully low number of patrons around.

  213. Leigh Lowe

    Six injured after lightning strike at PGA TOUR Championship.

    Old joke.
    Q : What do you do if you are caught on a golf course during a lightning storm?
    A : Stand in the middle of the fairway holding your one iron above your head.
    Q : Huh?
    A : Well, even God can’t hit a one iron.

  214. Steve trickler

    This should be shown in schools.



  215. Eyrie

    From a space blog where mostly aerospace enginers comment re the divorced lesbian astronauts:
    “Back in the old days, they avoided this type of situation by not allowing bat-s**t crazy people to be astronauts.”
    Also: “At lest this astronaut wasn’t traveling cross country in space diapers to abduct another astronaut who was sleeping with her astronaut boyfriend.” Yes, that really happened too.

  216. John Constantine

    Combined sheep and lamb slaughter has been rising with processors coming back online after seasonal maintenance. Figure 2 shows combined sheep and lamb slaughter hasn’t been this low at this time of year since 2011. There is room for another 170,000 head of sheep and lambs to be slaughtered per week. This shows that supply remains very tight.

    In WA, lamb and mutton prices continued to ease (Figure 3). Mutton in the west is now close to 200¢ below the east. On a 20kg cwt sheep this is $40, which is more than enough for WA sheep to start to work their way east. Further WA mutton price fall should be limited.

    Once the price difference between west australian sheep and the best east coast market shows a margin over freight, traders start moving surprising numbers across the continent to monetise the arbitrage.

  217. old bloke

    areff
    #3140379, posted on August 25, 2019 at 11:03 am

    I want one of them. I was pruning the roses yesterday and still haven’t finished, a flame thrower would do an excellent job on the rose bushes.

    On the U-tube sidebar was this interesting piece of historic info about the ‘Nam (sorry to bring that up), apparently British officers with French, Indian and Japanese soldiers fought against Ho Chi Minh in 1945-46, it’s unfortunate that they weren’t allowed to complete the job in 1946.

  218. johanna

    Epstein was a procurer of poontang to the elite.

    The list of people who didn’t want him to make a plea bargain in return for information is very long indeed.

    If history is any guide, we’ll never know the full story.

    Oh, and Areff, vodka is water mixed with alcohol. Why bother?

    In TV and movies, vodka is great because they can just use water. If it’s Scotch, cold tea suffices.

    I have mentioned here before how TV series and movies have everyone eating and drinking, so that they have something to do with their hands (business.) Apparently, the first thing any man does when getting home is to pour a very over-amped drink. Every time.

    If a dodgy person is visited by an investigator, they immediately pick up the phone and chat to a co-conspirator. Every time.

    Shows like The Sandbaggers are still wedded to this stuff, but luckily there is solid content as well.

  219. Some History

    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Greta Thunberg want everyone to fly less to fight climate change. Germany and Sweden are already embracing the ‘flight shame’ movement.

    Germany’s Green Party, which has surged in popularity recently, wants to make domestic flights “obsolete as far as possible” by 2035 through new taxes and investments in high-speed rail.

    ‘Flight shame’ and ‘train bragging’

    RTWT

    https://www.businessinsider.com/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-greta-thunberg-flight-shame-movement-germany-sweden-2019-8?r=US&IR=T

    What’s that noise in the background? Why, it sounds like a toxic leperchaun having conniptions.

  220. chrisl

    Tigers need to win by 63 points to take 2nd place Go tiges!

  221. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    On the U-tube sidebar was this interesting piece of historic info about the ‘Nam (sorry to bring that up), apparently British officers with French, Indian and Japanese soldiers fought against Ho Chi Minh in 1945-46, it’s unfortunate that they weren’t allowed to complete the job in 1946.

    There’s a very good book on that campaign “The First Indo China War” by one Peter Dunn. Dunn was one of the first authors to expose the myth that Ho Chi Minh was a Nationalist, who waltzed with the Communists, and that, if left alone, he would have become some sort of Asian Tito – nonaligned with everyone.

  222. Mak Siccar

    Leigh Lowe
    #3140462, posted on August 25, 2019 at 1:32 pm
    Six injured after lightning strike at PGA TOUR Championship.

    Old joke.
    Q : What do you do if you are caught on a golf course during a lightning storm?
    A : Stand in the middle of the fairway holding your one iron above your head.
    Q : Huh?
    A : Well, even God can’t hit a one iron.

    Lee Trevino IIRC.

  223. Leigh Lowe

    One element of the AFL finals formula resolved.
    Bullies thumping the Crows in the ‘rat.
    Hands up who wants to coach the Crows next year.

  224. John Constantine

    https://www.couriermail.com.au/technology/rare-antarctic-phenomenon-could-plunge-australian-temperatures-to-midwinter-lows/news-story/4ce69a7b65489d3dc8fbee64e5e0864b?fbclid=IwAR24x0Hjn8seppq3womzCSD647vncMp3c2nJWKCHP7kbmJcoL63y9_C64e8

    the rare phenomenon could spell a burst of bitterly cold weather for Australia and New Zealand over coming weeks.

    If so, it could be the southern hemisphere’s own version of the icy “beast from the east” that paralysed Europe in 2018, reported the New Zealand Herald.

    A sudden stratospheric warming (SSW) event kicks off when the temperature of the stratosphere — that’s 30km to 50km above ground — over the South Pole climbs by more than 25C. Meteorologists from New Zealand’s National Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research (Niwa) think it’s likely this is about to happen next week.

    Importantly, it has the potential to mess with a ring of stormy and freezing weather that encircles Antarctica at this time of year.

    Frost risk should be low when the soil is wet, but the vast areas of northern dry soil were a risk this year to slip frosty air south in spring.

    Now the catastrophists come up with the ‘beast from the east’ level events swirling around.

  225. John Constantine

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-23/giant-pumice-raft-makes-its-way-to-great-barrier-reef/11444020

    Associate Professor Bryan said along the way an abundance of marine life would attach themselves to the pumice raft, “hitching a ride” across the Coral Sea.

    “In this 150-odd square kilometres of pumice out there right now, there’s probably billions to trillions of pieces of pumice all floating together and each piece of pumice is a vehicle for some marine organism,” he said.

    He said pieces of pumice should start washing up along Australia’s coastline in seven to 12 months.

    “When it gets here, [the pumice raft will be] covered in a whole range of organisms of algae and barnacles and corals and crabs and snails and worms,” he said.

    “We’re going to have millions of individual corals and lots of other organisms all coming in together with the potential of finding new homes along our coastline.

  226. zyconoclast

    You can design your own relationship’: life inside an open marriage

    Married couple Peter*, 46, and Liz*, 50, are sitting in their Melbourne home cuddling up with their long-term partners and laughing over a board game with their children and partners’ children on a Sunday morning.

    “We were a vanilla couple from the suburbs,” Liz says describing their 20-year relationship, which took an unexpected turn four years ago when Peter was in remission from cancer and had a “seize-the-day moment”.

    “He came to me and said, ‘Darling, I still love you and still want to have sex with you, but I have this overwhelming urge to have sex with other people and I’d like you to do it, too,” Liz says. “I was devastated. I felt really hurt. I had been taking care of him and it had changed our relationship dynamic. I was very angry. He was suggesting something crazy and mad and it would end badly.”

    “It was like, whoa,” recalls Liz. “There was lots of S&M and people having sex all around us.”

    Liz was hooked and the couple became regular attendees at the monthly parties. By the third, they were playing with other people.

    It was at a polyamorous meet-up 3½ years ago that Liz met her boyfriend. At about the same time, Peter met the woman he also shares his life with and her child.

  227. johanna

    Trivial consumer info spot – I tried a frozen pie from a well known brand yesterday. The label claimed that the contents of the pie had been slow cooked for six hours.

    A lie. There were large chewy bits, intact slices of fat, and chunks of gristle.

    Slow cooked for six hours? Not in a million years. Unless they mean slow cooked at 10C.

  228. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Defence Minister Linda Reynolds makes heartbreaking visit to Okapa district hospital

    Charles Miranda, News Corp Australia Network
    Subscriber only
    |
    40 minutes ago

    Australian SAS special forces will make a mercy dash to PNG’s Eastern Highlands on a reconnaissance mission to help a remote local district hospital without running water, medicines or even mattresses.

    The move came after Defence Minister Linda Reynolds visited the Okapa district province of her PNG ministerial counterpart Saki Soloma and was so moved by the lack of basic amenities.

    Pregnant women were walking hours for help, patients were bringing their own mattresses or lying on beds without any and there was no running water.

    She sat with many in the “wards” including a one-month-old child suffering pneumonia.

    Mr Soloma, escorting the senator with a hospital nurse, conceded there were challenges in his electorate including funding and infrastructure.

    Senator Reynolds was to ask her Defence administration whether Special Forces, due for specialist jungle training in PNG in coming weeks, could be redeployed after their mission to evaluate the Okapa District Hospital.

    I’ve got a nasty, suspicious mind, but would anyone care to speculate who’s bank account the funds actually went into?

  229. notafan

    Vanilla is new word for faithful?

    Good luck with the oh so with it adultery, morons.

  230. Slow cooked for six hours?

    Burning the fur of the possum or rat is much quicker than skining them.

  231. zyconoclast

    Pregnant women were walking hours for help, patients were bringing their own mattresses or lying on beds without any and there was no running water.

    What were Reynolds and her feelz doing there?
    and
    What were the conditions like before Europeans bumped into PNG?
    and
    Does she plan to use the SAS to wipe out the entire hospital population?

  232. Bubbles

    Witness the end of a once great Party.
    The disgusting Pothios/Turnbull conspiritorial child killing advocate is going on Q&A to outflank her colleagues of moral standing by seeking the acclamation of the sewer.
    Has a sitting Liberal Premier ever rolled in the Q&A sty before?
    The only hope is that the reservoir of member despair will finally burst and see-off the Turnbullian scum.
    Molan needs active support. There is no other credible conservative activist.

  233. Zatara

    Australian SAS special forces will make a mercy dash to PNG’s Eastern Highlands

    Why? The SAS is designed to break things and kill people. Not evaluate medical facilities or lack thereof.

    There is an entire ADF department set up for this sort of thing, the ‘Australian Civil-Military Centre’ (ACMC). So make them earn their living, or do away with them.

    If foul play is suspected send the cops.

  234. I’ve got a nasty, suspicious mind, but would anyone care to speculate who’s bank account the funds actually went into?

    It will definitely have gone in payoffs and “favours” for pet projects

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