Open Forum: August 24, 2019

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  1. cuckoo

    Why? The SAS is designed to break things and kill people.

    Their new motto: who cares wins.

  2. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Witness the end of a once great Party.

    It ended 53 years ago, Bubbles.
    Get over it and find something more productive to do with your vote.

  3. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Farewell to another of The Few: Canadian-born Squadron Leader who was one of the last surviving Battle of Britain pilots dies aged 102 – leaving just four of the heroes still living

    John Hart was one of ‘The Few’ who ensured the Germans did not invade Britain
    Spitfire pilot, who served in 602 Squadron, shot down a German Messerschmitt
    Also shared in kills on Junkers Ju88 bombers, earning Distinguished Flying Cross
    His death in June means the number of Battle of Britain heroes left is just four
    They are Flight Lieutenant William Clark, Wing Commander Paul Farnes, Flying Officer John Hemmingway and Flight Lieutenant Maurice Moundson

    Daily Mail

  4. zyconoclast

    Thankfully they are not evil wh1te [email protected]

    Spies in our suburbs
    Unearthing an alleged shadowy network of spies and their efforts to silence dissent.

    His trip generated disquiet in the refugee community which led to the ABC uncovering allegations of a complex web of Rwandan spies living within the suburbs, creating a culture of fear among the refugees who had escaped that nation in pursuit of a safer life.

  5. thefrollickingmole

    zyconoclast
    As i mentioned above, the ABC was mysteriously incurious when the same issues were happenning back around 2000..

    We had
    Saddam Hussein spies
    Iranian spies
    Syrian spies
    Tamil Tiger spies

    all mixed in claiming refugee status.
    Because refugee “no documents” is an ideal way to not only keep an eye on dissidents who were genuinely refugees, but also get into the country as a “cleanskin”.
    This is nothing new.

  6. Roger

    Spies in our suburbs
    Unearthing an alleged shadowy network of spies and their efforts to silence dissent.

    Not surprising.

    Reminds me…

    White Russians in Brisbane were always wary of Soviet spies/agents, some changing their names to avoid detection. Prior to 1917 Brisbane, being one of the most easily accessible “Western” ports from the Russian Pacific coast, was a refuge for Russian Communists exiting Russia after stints in Siberia. Not all of them returned after the Bolshevik Revolution, with some keeping tabs on newly arrived refugees. I seem to recall reading an article about a fracas taking place on May Day, 1919, with returned Diggers taking on red flag waving Russian Communists.

  7. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    all mixed in claiming refugee status.
    Because refugee “no documents” is an ideal way to not only keep an eye on dissidents who were genuinely refugees, but also get into the country as a “cleanskin”.
    This is nothing new.

    The Wehrmacht used to send their spies and “Fifth Columnists” down the road as “refugees.”

  8. Mother Lode

    Pregnant women were walking hours for help, patients were bringing their own mattresses or lying on beds without any and there was no running water.

    She sat with many in the “wards” including a one-month-old child suffering pneumonia.

    I have read (and seen photographs) describing the same dire state of affairs in Cuba.

    Except the Cubans seem more accustomed by more prolonged experience of the deprivations and know to bring their own mattresses, and use wheelbarrows to take loved ones to the hospital precincts (not that there is a hospital in any meaningful sense when they get there).

  9. Mother Lode

    Why? The SAS is designed to break things and kill people.

    From the sounds of it it seems detonations will pile more bricks on top of each other than there currently are, and their knives and bullets cleaner and sharper than anything currently available.

  10. thefrollickingmole

    Kristia “Im a devout Catholic who hates Catholicism” Keneally opens its gaping orifice and wafts a stink thought out.

    Kristina Keneally blasts Melbourne archbishop for claiming George Pell is innocent
    Labor senator says she can’t understand how Peter Comensoli‏ can continue defending pmmmmdophile

    How about because he knows the bloke and his background better than you and sincerely believes the court have got it wrong?

    The Labor senator Kristina Keneally has blasted Melbourne’s Catholic archbishop for his response to Cardinal George Pell losing his appeal against child sexual abuse convictions.

    Keneally, herself a prominent Catholic, said she was gobsmacked that Archbishop Peter Comensoli‏ had maintained that Pell was innocent and had questioned whether his victim was mistaken. “It’s distressing for so many reasons,” she told Sky News on Sunday.

    Comensoli has also said he would sooner go to prison than comply with proposed Victorian laws making it mandatory for priests to report suspected child abuse to authorities.

    “Here we have an archbishop just declaring he is going to break the law rather than report a child sexual abuse that is revealed to him in the confessional,” Keneally said.

    “I can’t understand how he can stand in front of the Australian people and make that statement, given all the evidence that has come out of the royal commission in relation to the Catholic church and child sexual abuse.”

    Keneally also contrasted the response to his comments to a “near meltdown” among conservatives when the union leader Sally McManus said she would be willing to break unjust laws to protect workers.

    “I don’t understand in our wider community, and particularly within some of the commentariat, why there isn’t the same level of condemnation for him that there was for people like Sally McManus when she made her statement.

    “It’s a double standard, if you ask me.”

    A “prominent Catholic” who apparently sees the seal of the confessional as a chance to pick up gossip.

    She got her position because of magic vagina and the ability to perform acts in public that would make a hog vomit.

    Comparing the jailing of a man purely on “he said” allegations, with absolutely no corroborating evidence, after a 10+ year campaign of vilification by their ABC and a police force setting up a “get Pell” unit is the same as breaking industrial laws.

    Gobsmacking vileness from a chancre on legs.

  11. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Touching base with Riccardo Bosi – after Cory ran and hid – yes, Infidel Tiger, you were right – he’se been on a tour of New South Wales, talking to former A.C. members – seems that, yes, enough people have had a gut full of the majors and are looking for an option. He’s using the slogan “Amateur Hour is Over” and making the point that any new party has to be run by those who know what they are doing.

    He’s putting out a video to describe what’s happening. Watch this space.

  12. Mother Lode

    ********* IGNORE IF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN TO JAPAN IN SUMMER ***********

    If you went in summer you may have had a drink called Chu-hi. Uses a shot of a local vodka-like spirit called shochu, shed loads of ice, soda water, and squeezed fruit juice. (Hence the name: Shochu-highball).

    Extremely refreshing on a hot day.

    Well, a bottle-o in Mosman will start stocking it soon. Probably just lemon, I expect.

    I love it, personally. Although the relationship was strained for a while when I tried a Pineapple Chu-hi by Kirin. Tasted like shit, and that is not just a turn of phrase- the flavour as you breathed out after swallowing was something I could easily imagine a coprophage experiences. Like breathing out the last dying breath of a halitotic old homeless man.

    Or maybe it contained real Kirin.

    Anyway, lemon Chu-hi in Mosman, if you are interested this summer.

  13. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Some ‘old poet’s’ words of wisdom about the human male’s persuasion of the female, and I am neither foolish nor the first when I say coax us with praise because our minds and bodies are programmed to respond to it. Indeed, some evolutionary theorists suggest that women’s ability to chatter creatively is there specifically to charm men (the ‘Scheherazade’ thesis) and was one of the factors that produced the rapid evolution of human language. That women respond to men’s attention and that men are visually and verbally attentive to women is a truism, and nothing to do with leaving the toilet seat up and down or other trivia of daily life. We are made differently and react differently because XX and XY.

    ‘had we but worlds enough and time ..
    ……
    My vegetable love should grow
    Vaster than empires, and more slow;
    An hundred years should go to praise
    Thine eyes and on thy forehead gaze;
    Two hundred to adore each breast;
    But thirty thousand to the rest;
    An age at least to every part,
    And the last age should show your heart;
    For, Lady, you deserve this state,
    Nor would I love at lower rate.
    But at my back I always hear
    Time’s wingèd chariot hurrying near;
    And yonder all before us lie
    Deserts of vast eternity. ”

    Ever it was thus and ever it will be. We have to work hard to understand each other.

  14. Zatara

    “I can’t understand how he can stand in front of the Australian people and make that statement, given all the evidence that has come out of the royal commission in relation to the Catholic church and child sexual abuse.”

    Yet another admission that it wasn’t Pell on trial for any particular criminal act of his. Rather he was being punished as the sin-eater for the perceived collective evils of the Catholic church.

  15. mh

    Betting : Trump 2020 win odds back out to even money.

  16. Muddy

    Australian SAS special forces will make a mercy dash to PNG’s Eastern Highlands

    Didn’t we used to have a ready company and ready battalion, which, one would assume, would include medical elements?
    As others have noted, this seems a poor use of ADF resources.

  17. Nick

    George Pell to appeal to High Court

  18. Roger

    “It’s a double standard, if you ask me.”

    We didn’t.

  19. Old Lefty

    At last something to lift the spirits: a justified dose of schadenfreude if Comrade Trad goes under as the Left devours its own.

    Re gin: the problem, as I understand it, is that him oxidises quickly, giving a quick lift and an equally quick downer. I rarely drink it because it leaves me feeling ghastly.

    And will a bishop have the cojones to excommunicate Keneally? Her qualification for becoming premier was an advanced capacity for heated agreement with Obeid and Tripodi, and she got into a seat that became vacant when the admirable Deirdre Grusovin antagonized the gay lobby and the lawyers by telling he truth (not the censored PC McClellan version) about p3d0ph1l1a. Her government’s treatment of the victims of NSW government institutions (Parramatta Girls Home etc), managed by Plibersek’s ex-junkie other half in DOCS, left the churches in the shade for indifference and cruelty – but we never hear that from the media. She is just a gigantic fraud.

  20. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    seems that, yes, enough people have had a gut full of the majors and are looking for an option.

    I admire Riccardo’s aims and efforts, Zulu, but if he is planning to form yet another party he’s wasting his time and other people’s effort and money.

  21. Muddy

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #3140515, posted on August 25, 2019 at 5:02 pm

    Touching base with Riccardo Bosi

    While I’m willing to be wooed, it would take a lot to impress me.
    An intelligent media strategy would be a decent start.

  22. Tintarella di Luna

    Ah Lizzie quoting Andrew Marvell’s Ode to His Coy Mistress what lust on display Marvell is my Favourite when it comes to the body/soul dichotomy

  23. Cassie of Sydney

    “Kristina Keneally blasts Melbourne archbishop “

    I hope Skank Kenealy keeps on opening her ugly mouth….she will galvanise more sympathy for Pell. Good.

  24. notafan

    Nothing the slightest bit Catholic about KKK, we can now add seal of the confessional to the long list of doctrine and dogma she disagrees with.

    She should join the uniting church and be done with it.

    Or just declare herself infallible
    On seconds thoughts she’s already done that.

  25. Cassie of Sydney

    “Old Lefty
    #3140526, posted on August 25, 2019 at 5:39 pm”

    I think you’ve said it best.

  26. Cassie of Sydney

    “Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault
    #3140527, posted on August 25, 2019 at 5:40 pm
    seems that, yes, enough people have had a gut full of the majors and are looking for an option.

    I admire Riccardo’s aims and efforts, Zulu, but if he is planning to form yet another party he’s wasting his time and other people’s effort and money.”

    Why the dampener? Do you have any suggestions? Or are you just content to always pour cold water on new endeavours?

  27. calli

    🏆🏆🏆🥇🥇🥇🎉🎉🎉

    You are looking at the grannie of an under 10’s rugby champ.

    Champagne time. Stuff the vodka.

  28. Cassie of Sydney

    “calli
    #3140534, posted on August 25, 2019 at 5:51 pm
    🏆🏆🏆🥇🥇🥇🎉🎉🎉

    You are looking at the grannie of an under 10’s rugby champ.

    Champagne time. Stuff the vodka.”

    Mazaltov Calli.

  29. calli

    Areff’s “stalking” is the funniest thing I’ve heard today.

    I challenge any appeals court judge to “imagine” it.

  30. Old Lefty

    Another silver lining. The ghastly Emma Walters (Mrs Setka) is indeed on the taxpayer test in a ministerial office in Yarragrad – probably parked there until Comrade Andrews elevates her to the stellar heights of the Victorian bench. The good news? At least we don’t have Bull Shitten in the Lodge to appoint her to the High Court.

  31. calli

    And vodka has zero carbs.

    So the little russian ballet waifs were being starved. How a diet of lettuce leaves could possibly create the stamina to dance bewilders me.

  32. Tintarella di Luna

    Marvellous achievement calli your genes making significant contributions across the generation

  33. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    George Pell decides to appeal to the High Court
    Chip Le Grand
    By Chip Le Grand
    August 25, 2019 — 5.16pm

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    George Pell has decided to appeal his case to the High Court, setting the scene for a final legal battle over the senior Catholic cleric’s child sex abuse convictions.

    Sources have told The Age and The Sydney Morning Herald that Pell made the decision after receiving unanimous advice from his legal team that the dissenting opinion of Victorian Supreme Court Justice Mark Weinberg provided reasonable grounds to have his convictions overturned.

    Pell has 21 days from last Wednesday’s Court of Appeal judgement to formally lodge an application for special leave to appeal to the High Court. It is likely that a short hearing to determine his application will be listed for this year.

    Breaking.

  34. calli

    Just on the news – Cardinal Pell is going to the High Court.

    Good. No good giving up and living a lie.

  35. thefrollickingmole

    CL makes the Quadrant sidebar!!

    Of all the tens of thousands of words, however, none paint such a damning picture of the forces arrayed against an innocent man as the magisterial overview pulled together by the poster Currency Lad (CL) at the Catallaxy Files blog.

  36. Delta A

    You are looking at the grannie of an under 10’s rugby champ.

    Go, you great under 10’s champs!

    My little grandie champ is having a sleepover tonight. He was devastated by my amputation, apparently crying desperately for his Granny while I was in hospital. Then, when I was discharged, he was very anxious about seeing me again. It’s taken a while – originally he couldn’t stop sneaking peeks at my stump – but just moments ago he pushed my wheelchair into the office and then, without a glance, he clambered onto my knee for a smooch.

    Life sure is good.

  37. JC

    Sure, Epstein was a worthless piece of dung. That’s incontestable.

    Now you get this. It’s a front page story in the Oz breathlessly informing us that Prince Andrew has been caught out. Midway though the story, we’re told it was in 1999.

    The presence of Malova with Andrew as he travelled from Epstein’s atoll, Little St James — dubbed “Paedophile Island” by locals — to Florida is the latest twist in a scandal that is threatening to engulf Buckingham Palace.

    The log for the flight, from the neighbouring territory of St Thomas in the US Virgin Islands to Palm Beach on February 12, 1999, states that the jet carried nine passengers including Epstein, Andrew, Malova and the British socialite Ghislaine Maxwell.

    In 1999 Malova was a well-educated model who had moved to the United States from Moscow, where she had been crowned Miss Russia after climbing to the top tier of the country’s gruelling beauty circuit. When she first visited America in February 1995, her ambition was to become a model in Manhattan.

    It was in 1999, FFS.

  38. calli

    And so he darn well should, TFM.

    The derailment of that thread was despicable. And thoroughly expected.

    He was right over the target.

  39. Roger

    It is likely that a short hearing to determine his application will be listed for this year.

    The short hearing is not likely, it’s necessary; that it will be listed for this year is likely.

    In the meantime, those so inclined should hope and pray that the Cardinal’s health holds up.

  40. JC

    The government needs to fire the governor of the RBA as early as Monday.

    Reserve Bank of Australia governor Philip Lowe has taken his warning that governments must do more to stimulate the economy onto the global stage, arguing central banks risk reigniting bubbles in house prices and stock markets with ultra-low interest rates.

    In an appearance at a meeting of top central bankers in the US overnight, Dr Lowe warned that central banks have limited ability to cushion the global economy against rising headwinds of political uncertainty and trade tensions because interest rates are at, or close to, record low levels.

    “We are experiencing a period of major political shocks,” Dr Lowe told a panel at the annual global monetary policy retreat in Jackson Hole, Wyoming, on Saturday afternoon (Sunday morning AEST).
    Read Next

    Shares on Wall Street tumbled 2 per cent on Friday after Trump ratcheted up tariffs on China in the latest escalation of the trade war between the two nations. Dr Lowe said central banks would be unlikely to be able to bail out the economy amid the increasing number of political shocks, notably the trade war between China and the US, the impending “no deal” Brexit, political unrest in Hong Kong and further leadership turmoil in Italy.

    “Political shocks are turning into economic shocks,” Dr Lowe said, appearing on a panel discussion with Amir Yaron, governor of the Bank of Israel, and Gita Gopinath, chief economist at the International Monetary Fund.

    “Monetary policy cannot deliver medium-term growth,” he said, according to reports of his remarks by Bloomberg. “We risk just pushing up asset prices.”

    First off, he should never even get close to a central bank because he’s Paul Krugman disciple. Secondly, but more importantly, the dickhead is basically telegraphing the absurd point that the RBA will not be able to hit the mandated inflation target. A central bank has a duty to hit the target and if he’s saying he can’t or is reluctant to, he should be immediately dismissed. No if no buts.

  41. Percy Popinjay

    LOL. FFS, there are some imbeciles blighting this site.

  42. Tintarella di Luna

    Delta A seeing your courage in this latest round of health challenges makes it clear for me that it’s courage and hope that helps us seize the day when it dawns anew Best wishes

  43. Robert Mc

    with absolutely no corroborating evidence

    Gobsmacking wrongness from you, mole. You need to read the meticulously researched and reasoned Majority Judgement, where you will find this pertinent note:

    47 It may not be entirely correct to say that A’s evidence was uncorroborated. To an extent his evidence was supported by reference to knowledge that he possessed which he could not have come by unless he was telling the truth. In any event, there is nothing particularly unusual in a jury convicting an accused on the strength of a so-called ‘uncorroborated’ complainant. A finding of guilt in such circumstances does not give rise, in and of itself, to a conviction being unsafe or unsatisfactory

  44. Roger

    Best wishes for a speedy adjustment, Delta.

    The secret to success: Always put your best foot forward.

    😉

  45. Delta A

    makes it clear for me that it’s courage and hope that helps us seize the day when it dawns anew

    Yes, Tinta. That, and the clarity of vision to perceive what – and what is not – truly worthwhile.

    Always put your best foot forward.

    Easy choice when there’s only one available. 🙂

  46. Roger

    Easy choice when there’s only one available.

    Can’t go wrong then. 🙂

  47. Herodotus

    Daily Telegraph:
    “A woman’s 20th birthday at the Coogee Bay Hotel last night allegedly ended up in a wild brawl where a policeman’s nose was broken, a court heard today… ”

    That’s up there with all those Florida Man headlines!

  48. calli

    there are some imbeciles blighting this site.

    🙌

  49. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    For Top Ender, and another Cat whose name escapes me – some discussion on the old thread, about a book that claimed the conventional view that Australia was defenseless and would have fallen easily to a Japanese attack in 1942, was wrong – that, in fact, Australia saved itself.

    The title is “Armed and Ready” by one A.T. Ross. (I’ve just had my copy returned to me…)

  50. Percy Popinjay

    Touching base with Riccardo Bosi – after Cory ran and hid – yes, Infidel Tiger, you were right – he’se been on a tour of New South Wales, talking to former A.C. members – seems that, yes, enough people have had a gut full of the majors and are looking for an option. He’s using the slogan “Amateur Hour is Over” and making the point that any new party has to be run by those who know what they are doing.
    He’s putting out a video to describe what’s happening. Watch this space.

    According to a good mate of his (and commenter here), we’re too damn lazy and have it way too good to bother starting any serious campaign against collectivists.

    One can make these sorts of statements when in Texas, of course.

    Riccardo is a gentleman and a scholar, but the only real solution to the collectivist scourge we’re unwillingly putting up with is to go nooklear on their flabby backsayeedahs through pipe hittin’ peoples of colour, etc.

    Otherwise we’ll continue to wake each day to another instance of staggering stupidity and barking madness, all in the name of “fixing” problems that don’t exist, as well as incessant screechee bloviating about the hardships faced by chicks with dicks, who, thanks to KKKapitalism, are existing in a climate crisis.

    FFS, enough, I tells ya. 🙁

  51. Cassie of Sydney

    “JC
    #3140545, posted on August 25, 2019 at 6:07 pm
    Sure, Epstein was a worthless piece of dung. That’s incontestable.

    Now you get this. It’s a front page story in the Oz breathlessly informing us that Prince Andrew has been caught out. Midway though the story, we’re told it was in 1999.”

    I noticed that too…..and whilst I think that Andrew does have questions to answer for his association with Epstein…a lot more recent associations I might add……..this “puke” story in the Oz is just a smear job. But you know…its the media…scraping the toilet.

  52. thefrollickingmole

    I just had a brain fart that would seriously screw over Ashtons clownshow.

    But i dont have the resources or time to thoroughly check and most would be concealed by “operational matters” anyway.

    Was the Bali 9 syndicate in any way connected to lawyer X information?

    I know some of the people came from Victoria.
    I know the AFP claim they already had info on the planned importation, but not where that info came from.

    It would be another bombshell, but how to get the info?

  53. Geriatric Mayfly

    The short hearing is not likely, it’s necessary; that it will be listed for this year is likely.

    The HC has snapped to attention on other issues; no pretence of being snowed under at all.

  54. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Hi Delta,
    Good to have you back with us.
    Are you wheelchair bound, or is it temporary until you get a prosthetic.
    I only ask because I have a motorised scooter lying around doing nothing.
    Needs a bit of work, but if it’s the direction you’re heading, I’ll get started.
    It’s one of these.

  55. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Sinclair Davidson
    #3140395, posted on August 25, 2019 at 11:35 am

    Lizzie – well done. That’s poetry.

    So was The Jabberwocky.

    Apparently Marcel Proust wrote a readable novel, once.

  56. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    That royal/Epstein thing is a crock.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Malova

    Anna Malova (Russian: Анна Малова) (born c. 1971 in Tutayev, Yaroslavl Oblast

    Yeah, she was 24 at the time, or 29, depending on what year the journo reckons it was.

  57. C.L.

    Go, you great under 10’s champs!

    My little grandie champ is having a sleepover tonight. He was devastated by my amputation, apparently crying desperately for his Granny while I was in hospital. Then, when I was discharged, he was very anxious about seeing me again. It’s taken a while – originally he couldn’t stop sneaking peeks at my stump – but just moments ago he pushed my wheelchair into the office and then, without a glance, he clambered onto my knee for a smooch.

    Life sure is good.

    Beautiful.

  58. Percy Popinjay

    Lizzie – well done. That’s poetry.

    Indeed. The type of magick that happens when you have a hotline to the Vogons.

  59. thefrollickingmole

    Delta A

    Some light reading for you.

    Throwim Way Leg

    ‘Throwim Way Leg is New Guinea pidgin for “go on a journey”. It is a book as fantastic as the wildest science fiction novel, as gripping as the darkest thriller and as moving as a love story… Not even Rider Haggard would have dared to tell a story so surprising.’

  60. Herodotus

    Lizzie, the vegetable element sidetracked me!
    Vegans often seem to be thin, anaemic and sexless.
    Like C.L. I prefer a smidgin of upholstery on the magnificence of the female form.
    Obiter dicta, Julius Caesar was right to be suspicious of someone with a “lean and hungry look”.

  61. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I know some of the people came from Victoria.
    I know the AFP claim they already had info on the planned importation, but not where that info came from.

    From memory, the father of one of the “Bali Nine” went to the Federal Police to say that he was worried that his son was going to Bali to commit an offense?

  62. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    I admire Riccardo’s aims and efforts, Zulu, but if he is planning to form yet another party he’s wasting his time and other people’s effort and money.

    Based and black pilled.

  63. Zatara

    It would be another bombshell, but how to get the info?

    Once upon a time there were professionals called journalists whose calling was to look into such things.

  64. Percy Popinjay

    bluddee hell – I’ve just contacted the Vogons and they’ve tapped out this:

  65. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Based and black pilled.

    Sorry Dot, but I haven’t got a bloody clue what you are referring to.

  66. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Touching base with Riccardo Bosi – after Cory ran and hid – yes, Infidel Tiger, you were right – he’se been on a tour of New South Wales, talking to former A.C. members – seems that, yes, enough people have had a gut full of the majors and are looking for an option. He’s using the slogan “Amateur Hour is Over” and making the point that any new party has to be run by those who know what they are doing.
    He’s putting out a video to describe what’s happening. Watch this space.

    Good news. It is a shame that unscrupulous huckster Bernardi did not let Rick and others take the reins when CB realised he had a personal problem – he has no ticker. He ain’t no Trump, the ridiculous bloke actually reckoned he was “our Trump”!

  67. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Shake and bake, Magic Man!

  68. Percy Popinjay

    Some more magick:

  69. Delcon

    cohenite
    #3140558, posted on August 25, 2019 at 6:32 pm
    Should milat be tortured into divulging details

    As it stands now, convicted murderers not only have no incentive to disclose the location of their victims, but, indeed, by doing so they incriminate themselves, thus ruling out for themselves any possibility of acquittal upon a potential retrial.
    Can’t the legal system think of some incentive to disclose the locations of the victims?
    Torture is illegal. I thought of some temporary privilege to be given to them in prison in return.

  70. mh

    Secondly, but more importantly, the dickhead is basically telegraphing the absurd point that the RBA will not be able to hit the mandated inflation target. A central bank has a duty to hit the target and if he’s saying he can’t or is reluctant to, he should be immediately dismissed.

    Inflation is different things to different people. Let’s change the mandate.

    JC, you want the RBA to inflate the value of all your houses.

  71. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    The inflation target ought to be 0% in the medium to long term and let it vary between -2% and +2% in the short term. Ideally, we’d move to free banking but the idea would blow so many people’s minds it may not ever happen.

  72. Roger

    CFMMEU pulls its Trad punch.

    Wimps.

  73. Not Uh oh

    “Thunderbirds are Go” on ABC ME at 7.32. Who said the ABC is useless?

  74. Percy Popinjay

    Who said the ABC is useless?

    Everyone with a functioning brain who’s ever existed on this planet.

  75. Bubbles

    Witness the end of a once great Party.

    It ended 53 years ago, Bubbles.
    Get over it and find something more productive to do with your vote.

    Unbelievable arrogance and mindless ignorance. We are discussing the preservation of life you moron, not your front bar bully bullshit political extremist views. Who would you suggest that I vote for ?
    Go back to polishing your .22 rounds. You have no value to contribute to a serious political, social, humanist debate.
    You represent all of the excuses that the totalitarians use to attack the middle ground. And in your case it is well deserved.
    Did I know you at boarding school – you seem very familiar from the third eleven thugs.

  76. cohenite

    Torture is illegal. I thought of some temporary privilege to be given to them in prison in return.

    Interrogation = torture?

  77. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Plot twist: cohenite is Mirko Bagaric.

  78. JC

    Plot twist: cohenite is Mirko Bagaric.

    He’s the Keyser Söze of the blog. That’s why he’s called Cronkite

  79. mh

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    1h
    Great working breakfast this morning with Prime Minister
    @BorisJohnson
    at the Hôtel du Palais in Biarritz, France! #G7Biarritz
    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1165535548766920704?s=20

    Trump looks enthused, not so much those sitting with him.

  80. notafan

    Star trek season 3 episode 24 ‘turnabout intruder’ most non PC episode yet.

    Very entertaining.

  81. Eyrie

    “At last something to lift the spirits: a justified dose of schadenfreude if Comrade Trad goes under as the Left devours its own.”
    As long as she’s held under until the bubbles stop. NADT.

  82. Bruce of Newcastle

    Delingpole goes to school:

    Delingpole: Black Conservative Headmistress Hits School Results Jackpot; Left Throws Tantrum

    RTWT. It’s worthy. If people like this lady can break the grip of the Left on schools like this one we may have some hope as a civilization. Any Cat that knows Kevin Donnelly might like to send him the link.

  83. Eyrie

    The only inlfation target worth a damn is 0% +/- say 1 or 2 % short term. Get +1.5 % one year aim for a little more negative the next.
    JC appears to be some kind of neo Keynesian. Abolish the RBA! And the Fed.

  84. Percy Popinjay

    Some super hotness from our beloved Countdown – the riffs are courtesy of the one and only Mick Ronson:

  85. Percy Popinjay

    Bugger – I’ve just proved the ALPBC wasn’t totally useless.

  86. zyconoclast

    Hi Delta,
    Good to have you back with us.
    Are you wheelchair bound, or is it temporary until you get a prosthetic.
    I only ask because I have a motorised scooter lying around doing nothing.
    Needs a bit of work, but if it’s the direction you’re heading, I’ll get started.
    It’s one of these.

    The picture the scooter you posted looks brand new.
    Is the bit of work you are planning like this?

  87. Not Uh oh

    Aaarrrrgggghhh. Useless ABC. ‘Thunderbirds’ are animated; not puppets.

  88. zyconoclast

    Disney has announced a new series starring a hero with Borderline Personality Disorder

    Disney has announced a hero for its upcoming Marvel series described as “Batman with multiple personality disorder” in an effort to reduce the stigma around mental health conditions.

    Marc Spector, the protagonist in ‘Moon Knight’, plays a former CIA agent who becomes an international mercenary after becoming disillusioned with the organisation.

    He dies while bleeding out during a disastrous mission to an archaeological dig site in Egypt, but is visited by the Egyptian god Khonshu and granted super strength in a second life.

    However, he soon displays the symptoms of Dissociative Identity Disorder- including erratic behaviour and social impairment- when he begins to hear the voices of Khonshu in his head.

    He goes on to develop several other alter egos, ranging from millionaire playboy Steven Grant, to cab driver Jake Lockley, as he takes on an array of street-level villains while grappling with his affliction.

  89. Diogenes

    Can’t the legal system think of some incentive to disclose the locations of the victims?

    Some states including NSW have a ‘no body no parole’ law. In the case of Millat, he will never be released, but all the bodies for the crimes he has been convicted of have been found. A friend of a ex-colleague believes she was very close to being one of his victims here on the Central Coast, having jumped out of the car while it was slowing down going into the Munmorah State Rec Area. Both he and his brother spent some time up here, and there are several missing persons cases that from that time.

  90. Muddy

    MatrixTransform
    #3140599, posted on August 25, 2019 at 7:14 pm

    Thanks, M.T.
    The Catictionary is unlikely to be anything more than a novelty, however the underlying intent has been to remind people of the power and flexibility of language. When we take the gift of language for granted, we become blind to how it is used against us.

  91. Delcon

    Percy Popinjay
    #3140611, posted on August 25, 2019 at 7:29 pm

    Bugger – I’ve just proved the ALPBC wasn’t totally useless.

    The ABC could be reformed to an acceptable form, but it would take comprehensive changes, at the end of which the ABC would, for one thing, cost not much more than 10% of what it does now.
    (Merging it with the SBS would be just one of many such changes.)

  92. Gab

    f all the tens of thousands of words, however, none paint such a damning picture of the forces arrayed against an innocent man as the magisterial overview pulled together by the poster Currency Lad (CL) at the Catallaxy Files blog.

    I made sure the twitteratti knew about CL’s excellent article. He was trending quite high for a few days.

  93. Top Ender

    Thanks Zulu.

    Perce – I was in love with Anne and Nancy Wilson for a few years. Alternately on every other day of the week.

    They never wrote back though. Same with the two sheilas from Abba.

  94. zyconoclast

    In selecting the leaders’ debate moderators, it would have been a fine thing to wander outside the privileged community that is the media

    A stellar cast of central Canadian journalists, all of them eminently female, has been selected to moderate the first federal election leaders’ debate.

  95. Tailgunner

    Lannisters went down today…
    But great game.
    Played well.
    Rematch in BrisVegas.
    Two home finals, then the big show.
    We’ll sing the Lannister song this year yet.

  96. Gab

    Delta A, I am in awe of you.

  97. Steve trickler

    Excellent work from the bloke behind the camera.



  98. zyconoclast

    Why this 63-year-old teacher ditched Massachusetts to retire in the highlands of Panama

    You can live on about $2,000 a month, experts says, and Panama has a generous ‘pensionado program.’ But there are drawbacks.

    Mary Taft lives with her two daughters, seven cats and two dogs in a mansion in Panama — and she wouldn’t have it any other way.

    But the former teacher and school administrator didn’t always know that a Panamanian retirement was in store for her. Indeed, as she consulted about where to move with her two adult daughters, dozens of spots were on the table. “We had this blue sky conversation — where can we all go and live together,” the 63-year-old former Springfield, Mass., resident says. “Canada was out because it was too cold. We wanted the tropics because we were sick of winter. We ruled out Asia because it was too far and the language barrier, Australia was too expensive.”

  99. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Virtue signalling slammed in 1985…and from the Beach Boy’s ‘Do It Again” comments, the songs are fairly similar!

  100. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Go back to polishing your .22 rounds.

    Sorry Bubbles, but after five strokes my eyesight is now so stuffed I’d be a menace to society just handling the rounds.

    Voting for political parties is now a waste of time. The system is totally stitched up to ensure a Labor or Coalition win. Which amounts to the same thing. The only remotely viable possibility of fighting back now, is to forget parties, and vote the sitting member last, regardless of which party they represent.

    This has all been discussed here at length already. And I’ll go on pushing it until enough people finally wake up to the fact that it is a rigged system. Or I die in the attempt. Whichever comes first.

  101. Tintarella di Luna

    Delingpole goes to school:

    Delingpole: Black Conservative Headmistress Hits School Results Jackpot; Left Throws Tantrum

    RTWT. It’s worthy. If people like this lady can break the grip of the Left on schools like this one we may have some hope as a civilization. Any Cat that knows Kevin Donnelly might like to send him the link.

    Ah yes Katharine Birbalsingh, she has been stirring the pot for quite some time. Started an anonymous blog called Dr Snufflupagus criticising the British Education Department, spoke at the Conservative Convention in 2011 when all hell broke loose because she told the truth that the everything stank – very brave young women.

    Went to see her speak at the invitation of the Sydney Institute – I am pretty sure Kevin Donnelly would know all about her success.

  102. Nick

    Strange the Left aren’t mocking Mme Macron as they do Melania Trump, a genuine good looker.

  103. Geriatric Mayfly

    Bugger – I’ve just proved the ALPBC wasn’t totally useless.

    Nothing is proven until Maxwell and Ferguson adjudicate.

  104. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    We ruled out Asia because it was too far and the language barrier, Australia was too expensive.”

    …and it was shit.

    Mike Nolan on how to avoid fines in Australia. “I don’t have to show you vagan arnythang”

  105. Muddy

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #3140606, posted on August 25, 2019 at 7:25 pm

    Good story, thanks BoN.
    Education vs. Schooling.

  106. Boambee John

    Zulu at 1833

    The title is “Armed and Ready” by one A.T. Ross. (I’ve just had my copy returned to me…)

    From memory he worked in the old Central Studies Establishment, probably on operational research (??). Iirc, he did a bit of work on warning times in the 1980s. I think Armed and Ready came out in the late 1990s (don’t have my copy anymore).

  107. zyconoclast

    The agitators must have forgotten to tell him he only needed to fake his mental illness.

    Pakistani refugee, 36, fights for life after setting himself on fire at a detention centre on Nauru

    The man, known as Jamal, 36, was flown to Brisbane from the remote Micronesian island on Saturday after harming himself on Friday morning.

    He suffered severe burns after setting himself alight in front of a mental health doctor, the ABC reported.

  108. Tailgunner

    Stop it,Frank.
    That’s awesome stuff man
    😀

  109. Diogenes

    Australia was too expensive.”

    Overheard a lot of older people at the markets this morning talking about moving to Thailand, Malaysia or Vietnam, and some were looking at Portugal, and Bulgaria (they have EU passports) and the pros & cons of each indicating they had done their homework. Lots of different conversations, single blokes, married couples and even single women… All complaining they froze this winter and could not afford to turn on a heater.

  110. Tailgunner

    “are you ever worried,you know, driving round with a car full of drugs?
    Nah,nah,nah, been driving these streets for years mate….”
    Love it

  111. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    That Disney series is ripping off Mr Crowley and Philip K Dick.

    Both were very talented, all Diz-nee can do now is just rip off and destroy.

    Diz-nee is the tuberculosis of the arts.

    Or the consumption, as I believe it was known well before my time.

  112. Eyrie

    “The man, known as Jamal, 36, was flown to Brisbane from the remote Micronesian island on Saturday after harming himself on Friday morning.

    He suffered severe burns after setting himself alight in front of a mental health doctor, the ABC reported.”

    Are we taking up a collection?

    How many liters can we get?

  113. Some History

    Prepare to be surprised by “Disney on Ice”

    https://imgur.com/2RcPImZ

  114. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    However, this was not the first time Dick had claimed xenoglossia: a decade earlier, Dick insisted he was able to think, speak, and read fluent Koine Greek under the influence of Sandoz LSD-25.

    By rights, Keith Richards ought to be the Lucasian Professor of Mathematics at Cambridge by now.

  115. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Overheard a lot of older people at the markets this morning talking about moving to Thailand, Malaysia or Vietnam,

    Couple of the ouens retired to Thailand, and Malaysia was, at one time, chasing the retirement dollar.

  116. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    I have no idea why my prior post was moderated.

    WTF!?

  117. Some History

    Start your day at Cannibal’s Diner

    https://imgur.com/ReuzTRo

  118. Diogenes

    Armed and Ready.

    (I’m not familiar with it).

    Will have to organise an inter library loan …

    https://trove.nla.gov.au/work/31881730?q&sort=holdings+asc&_=1566727629573&versionId=38692117

  119. Tailgunner

    Dot and the biggest stoner cuck I’ve ever met have the same sense of humour.
    Yeah,yeah,nah,nah
    This guy is frickin hopeless,dot.
    When are you starting the deplorables law firm dude?
    We’re gonna need one?

  120. Muddy

    Armed and Ready chapter list.

    This looks potentially interesting.

  121. dopey

    Sun Herald. FitzSimons : As to George Pell, imagine for a moment that the judges had found in his favour on Wednesday and that he was immediately released. And now imagine that I wrote columns and went on air and said: “I don’t care, I am certain he did it. I just done care that the process has declared him not guilty. I say Pell is guilty as hell.” Precisely what would those in the media now so vociferously defending Pell – insisting they know more than the police, prosecutors, jury and judges through five levels of the Victorian justice system who have seen all the evidence all along the way and concluded his guilt – have to say about my conclusion ?
    My reckoning is that it would go for days, with a general theme of how very dare I not accept the result of the legal process? And yes, I get it that in the latest verdict there was one dissenting judge. The aforementioned legal process allows for dissenting judgements at this stage. That dissent doesn’t alter the verdict. Guilty. As to the Archbishop of Melbourne trying to have it both ways, insisting Pell is innocent but that he also believes the victim’s testimony – maintaining that it must have been mistaken identity – can he be serious? There were so many priests in heavy robes forcing themselves on13 year olds at that time the lad simply got mixed up as to which it was? Is that truly your position Archbishop? If so, have you made a single move to find out who the real offender is, among the priests with Pell on the day?
    We’re waiting.

  122. Muddy

    Snap, Diogenes.
    Yes, I will look into it. Thanks.
    While I agree that Australia’s contribution to the war in the SWPA has been undersold (many would be surprised about our reciprocal lend lease contributions, along with aircraft production, the Australian Cruiser tank (which was eventually canned) etc.), I’m not sure we were ‘ready’ for anything. None of the Allied nations were.

  123. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    If so, have you made a single move to find out who the real offender is, among the priests with Pell on the day?

    Plot twist: it was someone cross-examined at the trial who spoke against Pell.

  124. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Remember when the ridiculous Vivian Waller accused (more or less) Pell of a sexual assault when he wasn’t even in the country?

    Frank Walker remembers.

  125. egg_

    Trivial consumer info spot – I tried a frozen pie from a well known brand yesterday. The label claimed that the contents of the pie had been slow cooked for six hours.

    A lie. There were large chewy bits, intact slices of fat, and chunks of gristle.

    Pressure cooker equivalent?

  126. Mark A

    At least the Austrians are going in the right direction, when it concerns paying by cash.

  127. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    the Australian Cruiser tank (which was eventually canned) etc.)

    I don’t have access to my copy, but someone did write a very good title on the Australian Cruiser tank, and why it was canned.

  128. Delta A

    Are you wheelchair bound, or is it temporary until you get a prosthetic.
    I only ask because I have a motorised scooter lying around doing nothing.

    Thank you, Peter. Very kind of you, but my wheels are only temporary, until the wound is completely healed. Then shortly after, I’ll be away on my own two legs, one of which I was born with, and the other acquired with thanks to our generous health system.

  129. stackja

    Diogenes
    #3140654, posted on August 25, 2019 at 8:11 pm
    Armed and Ready.


    Second World War Official Histories
    Australia in the War of 1939–1945. Series 4 – Civil
    Volume V – The Role of Science and Industry (1st edition, 1958)
    Description
    This volume describes how science and industry played important parts in devising and manufacturing equipment required by Australia-at*arms. The story of a period in which rapid and enduring developments took place in Australia’s scientific organization and manufacturing capacity.

  130. egg_

    Epstein was a procurer of poontang to the elite.

    Persackly – Bohemians live differently to plebs.
    Isn’t the sadistic upper class chappy in 50 Shades of Grey a bestseller?
    If it walks like a duck…

  131. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Good to hear, Delta.
    I used to joke about my e-Harley, when I was dependent on it to get around. But nothing beats being able to make it under your own steam.

    Anyway, if it ends up with some lengthy delay in getting the peg-leg, let me know and we’ll see what we can do about getting the scooter down to you, if needs be.

  132. MatrixTransform

    The Cray Old Mole is actually giving a lesson to the yr 11s tomorrow on words, meanings, changes, and power.

    I gave her some for the Catallexicon … too risque apparently

    another for Muddy … Old Words

  133. stackja

    George Pell case is only starting.
    We still don’t know what happened to Azaria Chamberlain in the 39 years since the dingo took her.
    Did someone bury the remains? Who covered up the details?

  134. notafan

    Fitzsimons is a gibbering idiot.

    Archbishop Cominseli wasn’t suggesting it was a different priest on ‘the day”which by the way which was not even established with any certainty being possibly one of two Sundays in December but that the accuser was abused by someone, at sometime but has convinced himself of it being Cardinal Pell and has created a fantasy based on the only possible circumstances in which he crossed paths with Cardinal Pell.

  135. vlad

    George Pell to appeal to High Court

    I’m loving it.

  136. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Fitzsimons is a gibbering idiot.

    So are the majority of the commenters on the SMH site – “howler monkey’s” are words that spring to mind.

  137. Delcon

    Did someone bury the remains? Who covered up the details?

    Lindy Chamberlain.

  138. Muddy

    stackja
    #3140666, posted on August 25, 2019 at 8:27 pm

    Second World War Official Histories
    Australia in the War of 1939–1945. Series 4 – Civil
    Volume V – The Role of Science and Industry (1st edition, 1958)

    Thanks, stackja. I have a vague recollection of briefly perusing that volume, but not relate any content with confidence. While it’s not as dramatic as the tactical volumes, as I stated above, many would be surprised at the level of Australia’s contribution beyond the battlefield.

  139. stackja

    Delcon – bad attempt at what ever.

  140. Bubbles

    This has all been discussed here at length already. And I’ll go on pushing it until enough people finally wake up to the fact that it is a rigged system. Or I die in the attempt. Whichever comes first.

    I would never support your primary offer, but I hate your ignorance that can superimpose your fucked-up gunny ideology for the most important issue that exists today. If your insane ideology demands that political stance overwhelms the sancity of life then you belong in this pretend conservative cesspit that will eventually be justification for totalitarian control of free thought.
    Didn’t your Glad say that this “has already been discussed”?
    Your beloved blog leader will walk away when the Nazis come hunting.

  141. Muddy

    MatrixTransform
    #3140671, posted on August 25, 2019 at 8:36 pm

    Ha! Some of those ye olde skool words could be aptly used here.
    e.g. Ultracrepidarian – Somebody who gives opinions on subjects they know nothing about.

  142. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I don’t have access to my copy, but someone did write a very good title on the Australian Cruiser tank, and why it was canned.

    “Fallen Sentinel – Australian tanks in World War 11” by Peter Beale.

  143. John Constantine

    Warner grasps something out of nothing

  144. Geriatric Mayfly

    Well into ‘Justice Denied’ the current bestseller covering the elevation of Justice Kavanaugh. A nasty jolt to be reminded again of just how execrable the likes of Feinstein, Ford, Katz et al were at the time, and the fortitude of their prey in seeing it through to his final confirmation. Not to overlook Avenati’s gaggle of lying harlots. With RBG on the precipice, it might be assumed we aint sen nothing yet. But Kavanaugh’s alleged frolics are so old hat. The next nominee will be caught up in some degrading accusation involving the alphabet people, a seductive tranny or at sometime having stated the biological truth about gender.

  145. Geriatric Mayfly

    Not Justice Denied but Justice on Trial

  146. Boambee John

    For the Australian Cruiser tank and related matters, read Fallen Sentinel, Australian Tanks in World War II by Peter Beale (Big Sky, 2011).

    One version, called the Thunderbolt, had two 25 pdr guns mounted in the turret. It could have been a good infantry support vehicle.

  147. Muddy

    I wish to state that I respect that Peter/M.V. has actually put forward a practical solution, rather than simply bitch and moan. I don’t like his chances of convincing people, but credit to him for making the attempt, which is far more than what most of we voyeurs are willing to do.

  148. Delcon

    Watching Insiders on replay now on ABC24.

    I think I could watch all these middle aged women from the ABC/Guardian talking about climate change all day and never tire. They are so entertaining.

    By the way, did you watch Insiders today? They prepared an Alan Jones puppet in the form of parrot, and they are screaming at it at “Talking Pictures”. Really.

    Your tax money at work.

  149. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Snap Zulu!

    I’ve located my copy – noted that it’s been some years since I read it, so it’s now at the top of the “too read” pile.

  150. Fisky

    Oh wow.

    https://twitter.com/post_liberal/status/1165535371071033344

    Library Board Can’t Agree on Sex Crime Checks Proposed After Drag Queen Story Event

  151. Tel

    Trivial consumer info spot – I tried a frozen pie from a well known brand yesterday. The label claimed that the contents of the pie had been slow cooked for six hours.

    A lie. There were large chewy bits, intact slices of fat, and chunks of gristle.

    When cooking brisket on the BBQ, seven hours is the absolute minimum to deliver something that is reasonable when sliced across the grain, and still a bit robust but tasty.

    Curried skirt steak takes at least eight hours in the slow cooker.

  152. Steve trickler

    It’s been a great series to follow. Good stuff here.



  153. bespoke

    Peter/M.V. has actually put forward a practical solution,

    And what is that?

  154. cohenite

    He’s the Keyser Söze of the blog.

    I reckon milat has some other bodies buried and maybe a partner or 2.

  155. Leigh Lowe

    Aussie quicks unravelling.

  156. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Leaders propose path for indigenous voice

    exclusive
    Paige Taylor
    Indigenous Affairs correspondent
    @paigeataylor
    36 minutes ago August 25, 2019
    46 Comments

    Forty of Australia’s most powerful indigenous leaders will tomorrow present Scott Morrison and Ken Wyatt with a proposed and ­detailed pathway for an indigenous voice to parliament that they say can be enshrined in the ­Constitution by the end of 2021.

    Cape York leader Noel Pearson, the Prime Minister’s Indigenous Advisory Council co-chair Roy Ah-See, land council chiefs from around Australia and leaders working with state governmen­ts on treaties in Queensland and Victoria met in Cairns at the weekend for what many considered a crisis meeting on the future of the 2017 Uluru Statement from the Heart.

    In a letter expected to be delivered­ tomorrow to the Prime ­Minister and Mr Wyatt, the Minister for Indigenous Australians, the leaders propose what The ­Australian understands is a three-stage process that begins by asking indigenous people around Australia what an indigenous voice to parliament should look like.

    The leaders are effectively acknow­ledging that one of the stumbling blocks for the voice has been a lack of detail. Under the proposal, consultation with indig­enous people would be similar to the dialogues that led to Uluru — 1200 indigenous people contributed to the Statement from the Heart at 13 meetings.

    The leaders suggest the new dia­logues could begin as soon as February and would ultimately design local, regional and national structures for the voice.

    To help people at the meetings make informed decisions, they would be given lessons in civics and proposed models to consider.

    The leaders want the wider Australian community to be able to participate, possibly at a national convention or through a joint select committee that takes submissions from the public.

    Under the proposed timeline, a panel of legal experts would draft the words to go into the Constit­ution. They believe the referen­dum could be held in mid-2021.

    The Cairns meeting was a signific­ant gathering of leaders determined that indigenous people­, not the government, should lead the process towards the referendum.

    The Morrison government plans to “co-design” some form of indigenous voice but considers this separate to the referendum it intends to hold within three years on constitutional recognition of indigenous Australians. Uluru supporters see a voice in the ­Constitution as integral.

    From the Oz.

  157. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Thanks Muddy.
    I accept that the chances of any level of success are minimal, but any other course of action now is both pointless and hopeless.

  158. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    a three-stage process that begins by asking indigenous people around Australia what an indigenous voice to parliament should look like.

    Sober would be a nice start.

  159. Geriatric Mayfly

    Barack Obama has taken to Twitter to reveal the music he and wife Michelle have been listening to over the summer. The former President – who regularly touts his pop culture credentials by publishing lists of his favorite songs and books – unveiled the new playlist on Saturday morning, which was complete with tracks from a variety of different genres and time periods. Obama, 58, proved he was still hip and happening by including two of summer’s biggest anthems among the 44 selected tracks. Both ‘Senorita’ by Shawn Mendes and Camila Cabello, as well ‘Old Town Road’ by Lil Nas X have

    If you really care, the full expanded list is linked at lucianne.com Could be a groovy summer coming up for fans of The Kenyan down under.

  160. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Steve trickler
    #3140257, posted on August 25, 2019 at 12:06 am

    Thanks, Steve. This “Polly Post” really resonated with me. She is right about wishing/wanting to leave all this crap behind. To opt for a quiet life away from blog reading, politics, social issues, religion and the world’s problems, but knowing full well that underneath it, the other side just won’t allow anything short of our full capitulation.

    Not that I do much, apart from trying to keep myself informed as best I can and, on occasion, writing an email about the latest bull dust to the latest bull dust producer; (I’m looking at you at the moment, Gladys).

    But, as Polly states, each moment of defiance, whether small or large, is absolutely necessary to let these people know that we’re not yielding. That we will not let them pass by us unhindered.

    Not yielding also requires not caving in to their attempt to rope us in to their moral superiority refrain. Of not allowing them to convince us that, of course, we’re good people, too! That realising that caving in to their virtue signalling doesn’t determine in any way our personal worthiness. That rather it’s a form of moral prostitution. So yielding doesn’t help us, we don’t come away wishing we hadn’t “sold” ourselves for the shiny beads of approval and not given in, up, or gone away silent.

    Today I went shopping at Myer. At the conclusion of my purchase the sales assistant asked if I wanted to donate the change of $0:05 to the Myer Foundation. I replied I’d think about if Myer first reduced the price of the item by the same figure and then we could both make a donation. I also said that very large tax deductions are enjoyed from charitable donations so Myer may well be doing very well from this little shakedown of their customers. The sales assistant apologised but said it is company policy to ask. I said that was fine but I wasn’t interested in helping Myer feel good about themselves because of their belief that they had a better standard of customer. It was a bit like being part of a woke Gillett advert with the “we know that you’re on the same wavelength as us”.

    So like Polly, (and Maggie Thatcher) I’m not for turning, either.

  161. Oh come on

    Iranian lawmakers are preparing to issue a salvo of sanctions on top Trump administration figures and their supporters in Congress

    LOL a ‘salvo” of Iranian sanctions? Make way for the ‘big guns’! These sanctions mean Ted Cruz and some of his colleagues won’t be able to purchase dodgy knock-off Scud missiles, whereas before they might have been able to. Let it burn, Ted.

  162. mh

    Brave batting performances from Bairstow and Stokes.

    Both rangas.

  163. Steve trickler

    I hope this bloke doesn’t come a cropper.

    Brave man.



  164. thefrollickingmole

    From memory, the father of one of the “Bali Nine” went to the Federal Police to say that he was worried that his son was going to Bali to commit an offense?

    One father did and was told something would happen along the lines of his son being warned off boarding.
    They didnt do that.

    AFP claimed they had been bugging the operation for a while etc, so knew about it before.
    Cant find any reference to who the rumored buyer was supposed to be, if it was one of Gobbos lads the shit would hit the fan.

  165. JC

    They make the best rugs, OCO. Not the ones dudes wear on their heads.

  166. Oh come on

    George Pell to appeal to High Court

    Thank goodness. Get it out of Victoria.

    On the other hand, if the HC nixes the appeal, we’re in move to Canada territory.

  167. Oh come on

    JC: all of their best rugs have already been made, and that will remain the case until the Persians shake the Islamic blight off of their rich and ancient civilisation.

  168. Oh come on

    JC: all of their best rugs have already been made, and that will remain the case until the Persians shake the 1slamic blight off of their rich and ancient civilisation.

  169. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    “A smidgeon of upholstery!”

    Now that sounds good, a very nice way of saying that we need take no notice of the ‘ideal’ bmi’s. In my youth most women were not fat but had thighs that didn’t gape, upper arms that didn’t sag and faces that were full not gaunt. Just look at the old photographs. We looked robust and healthy. I have never dieted until the last year or so when as I had slowly added some kilos I decided to take 8kg in toto off. Glad to put a few of those kilos back on. As an older person I have good muscles, flesh and skin but that weight loss was a mistake. Fleshing out a bit again, by eating what I like as long as I am responding to hunger, has been restorative. Healthy exercise of course is also essential. So is sleep.

    The young and not so young Royals are a clear example of how being a heavily-dieted fashionably thin turns young women knobble-kneed and facially strained.

  170. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Tintarella di Luna
    #3140551, posted on August 25, 2019 at 6:19 pm
    Delta A seeing your courage in this latest round of health challenges makes it clear for me that it’s courage and hope that helps us seize the day when it dawns anew Best wishes

    +me, too, Delta

  171. Zyconoclast

    They make the best rugs, OCO. Not the ones dudes wear on their heads.

    Kitty Rugs

  172. Oh come on

    When you have a lot of time on your hands, I suppose you can indulge yourself and dream up all kinds of nonsense. You could even press-gang others into your fantasy.

  173. Leigh Lowe

    Cant find any reference to who the rumored buyer was supposed to be, if it was one of Gobbos lads the shit would hit the fan.

    Probably not mole.
    All roads lead to Sydney on the Bali Nine thing.

  174. areff

    Great post, Bar Beach Swimmer. All sadly true.

    And well done denying the Myer Foundation your five cents. You should see the recipients of their cultural largesse. $69,ooo recently, if memory serves, to Jeff Sparrow.

  175. egg_

    They prepared an Alan Jones puppet in the form of parrot, and they are screaming at it at “Talking Pictures”.

    Haters gotta hate!

  176. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Public will never hear claims of negligence against NSW Police during Lindt Cafe siege
    Natalie O’Brien, Senior Reporter, News Corp Australia Network
    August 25, 2019 6:00pm
    Subscriber only

    Exclusive: Potentially explosive allegations of negligence by NSW Police commanders during the deadly Lindt Cage siege will remain secret after police settled a civil lawsuit against them by the former chief sniper in the siege.

    Just four months after the sniper known only by the codename Sierra Three-1, filed a District Court civil action, NSW Police have settled the case “confidentially”.

    The public will now never get to hear the allegations of negligence against the police superiors detailed in the sniper’s 30-page affidavit.

    The case was set for public hearing next year and it was expected senior police would be called to give evidence backing up the chief sniper’s claim that he and others were stopped from doing their job properly, and consequently, stopped them from possibly saving the lives of cafe manager Tori Johnson, 34, and barrister Katrina Dawson, 38.

    Evidence would have also re-examined aspects of the siege — focusing on exposing flaws in police procedures and in the decision-making of senior commanders.

    The sniper had been so traumatised by the siege he made a complaint to the Law Enforcement Conduct Commissioner claiming senior officers perjured themselves at the inquest. But the complaint was dismissed.

    It is not known if those allegations of perjury would have also been aired in the civil case.

    A spokeswoman for NSW Police confirmed to News Corp Australia the case had been settled on “confidential grounds”.

    District Court of NSW records show a “notice of discontinuance by consent” had been filed formally closing the case and ending proceedings.

    Lawyer for Sierra Three-1, Chantille Khoury of Law Partners, said she could not comment on the case.

  177. Oh come on

    Kitty Rugs

    Thanks, Zyco. I clicked your link. The Google Adsense ads I see for the next fortnight may be NSFW.

  178. John Constantine

    The deal relied entirely on the fact that Moo was licensed by Crown to work as a representative for an Asian junket operator. This enabled him to use Crown to wire funds to bank accounts overseas, purportedly as part of his junket high-roller gaming operation.

    When federal police investigators questioned Moo in September 2013 about CCTV vision showing him passing bundles of $50 notes from a plastic shopping bag to a Crown staff member, he explained that Crown offered its junkets a financial service with all the hallmarks of an underground banking operation.

    After recent Cat chat about small amounts of cash looking suss, here is where those that deal in bulk go.

    https://www.theage.com.au/business/companies/gangsters-gamblers-and-crown-casino-how-it-all-went-wrong-20190725-p52aqd.html

  179. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Fallen AFL star Ben Cousins is freed from jail as police DROP charges of stalking and threatening to kill his ex girlfriend and mother of his children

    Ben Cousins has walked free from jail after charges were dropped against him
    The former West Coast Eagles and Richmond star was released at the weekend
    He was accused of stalking and threatening to kill ex-girlfriend Maylea Tinecheff

    Daily Mail.

  180. John Constantine

    https://www.businessinsider.com.au/harry-markopolos-profit-potential-fraud-claim-that-tanked-ge-stock-2019-8?r=US&IR=T

    Harry Markopolos, a whistleblower on the Madoff ponzi scheme, has the potential to make millions from his recent call that General Electric has committed billions of dollars in accounting fraud.
    The former financial executive is reportedly working with an undisclosed hedge fund that’s betting GE’s share price will drop, and Markopolos has an agreement to receive a portion of the trading profits, according to the Wall Street Journal.
    Markopolos’ group has also sent its 175-page report to securities regulators in the hope of claiming a cash reward through a government whistleblower program.
    GE’s stock plunged 11% on Thursday – its biggest decline in 11 years – after Markopolos’ accusatory report was made public.

    The group has also sent its report to securities regulators in attempt to collect a cash reward through a government whistleblower program. The US Securities and Exchange Commission operates the Office of the Whistleblower, which allows people submit anonymous tips and information on possible securities violations.

    The office also offers financial rewards to those who provide information that leads to sanctions of $US1 million or more. The rewards can ranges from 10% to 30% of the money collected through fines, according to the SEC’s website.

    Markopolos and his team claim that they have found $US38 billion worth of accounting fraud stemming mostly from from GE’s long-term-care insurance business. The report said that after reviewing competitors in the sector they determined that GE was hiding huge losses from investors by falsifying regulatory filings. The report also said the level of fraud was “bigger than Enron and WorldCom combined.”

  181. Tintarella di Luna

    I replied I’d think about if Myer first reduced the price of the item by the same figure and then we could both make a donation.

    It’s like the paying of indulgences to get into paradise. How very religious. good on you Beach Beach Swimmer.

  182. John Constantine

    The google ads i get as popups tend to be for things like chicom mass produced Caltrops, the multispiked area denial self defence weapons you strew around your verandah and back yard to really make an impact on uninvited nightime visitors.

    Comrades.

  183. Zyconoclast

    Thanks, Zyco. I clicked your link. The Google Adsense ads I see for the next fortnight may be NSFW.

    A good adblocker should take care of that.

  184. Delcon

    egg_
    #3140723, posted on August 25, 2019 at 10:36 pm

    They prepared an Alan Jones puppet in the form of parrot, and they are screaming at it at “Talking Pictures”.

    Haters gotta hate!

    Their hatred is so intense I wouldn’t be surprised to find JC as a guest host of Talking Pictures.

  185. John Constantine

    Run ’em out, about the only way to use that piece of crap new ball to dismiss anybody.

  186. Bar Beach Swimmer

    areff
    #3140722, posted on August 25, 2019 at 10:36 pm

    Hi Areff, thanks for confirming that the Myer Foundation is woke central.
    I intend to keep going with these small acts of f*uk them; it’s is a great feeling.

  187. Leigh Lowe

    John Constantine

    #3140733, posted on August 25, 2019 at 11:12 pm

    Run ’em out, about the only way to use that piece of crap new ball to dismiss anybody.

    Spoke to soon.
    Woakes walking.

  188. Leigh Lowe

    Because Myer stores are so awash with cashed up customers that pissing a few off won’t matter.

  189. Zyconoclast

    Work on more border wall starts in Arizona, New Mexico

    The administration has awarded $2.8 billion in contracts for barriers covering 247 miles (390 kilometers), with all but 17 miles (27 kilometers) of that to replace existing barriers instead of expanding coverage.

  190. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Steve Trickler, I have watched 2 of those Venezuela videos, and enjoyed them both for their humanity and immediacy. The absolute perils of totalitarian socialism. Thanks for finding them.

    Also, that little ad for his sponsors, some online training enterprise called Skillshare which runs a range of useful short courses for circa 10 dollars a month, sounds like something helpful to check out for yourself or family etc.

  191. Knuckle Dragger

    Joffra Archer is wearing a watch whilst batting.

    Good as a target, if nothing else.

  192. Lazlo

    I’m surprised Joffra hasn’t got his smartphone with him KD. Admirable restraint.

  193. Leigh Lowe

    Knuckle Dragger

    #3140741, posted on August 25, 2019 at 11:49 pm

    Joffra Archer is wearing a watch whilst batting.

    It’s expensive and Bairstow is back in the sheds.
    You should know.
    Valuables and rangas.

  194. Zyconoclast

    LA policeman who said sniper shot him ‘made it up’

    Authorities in Los Angeles say a sheriff’s deputy who claimed he had been shot by a sniper actually cut two fake bullet holes in his uniform with a knife and made the whole thing up.
    Police launched a massive manhunt last Wednesday after Angel Reinosa called in to say he was pinned down by gunfire.
    “I’m taking shots from the north of the Lancaster helipad, I’m hit in the right shoulder,” said a frantic Mr Reinosa.
    “My shirt’s ripped to the right. I think it’s from the apartment window.”
    Mr Reinosa has been relieved of his duties and is facing a criminal investigation

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49465026

  195. Leigh Lowe

    Stokes 100.
    Poms 9-fer but closing in.

  196. Steve trickler

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare.

    Sleep well lovely lady.

  197. Arky

    Keep your menagerie of spastic geriatric alcoholics to yourself then.
    Fine.
    I have real work to do.
    Some of us have lives ya know.
    Can’t bloody waste eternity catering to those who don’t want us.

  198. Zyconoclast

    Stokes might just scrape in for Man of the Match.

  199. Leigh Lowe

    Poms win 9 down.
    Stokes 135 not.
    11 fours
    8 sixes.
    Windies ump misses a plumb LB in the second last over.
    DRS says out but no reviews left.

  200. Leigh Lowe

    Sloppy bowling in the first session today opened the door.

  201. Infidel Tiger

    Umpire Wilson fucked us completely.

    What a shocker he is.

  202. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger

    #3140760, posted on August 26, 2019 at 1:26 am

    Umpire Wilson fucked us completely.

    What a shocker he is.

    “Blocker” Wilson?

  203. jupes

    What a totally fucked weekend for sport.

    Well almost. I lost on West Coast but my five game multi got up.

  204. johanna

    It seems that the gummint now has the power to toss you out of your home, because ‘safety’:

    Most of the decade-old complex’s 17 units were already vacant, with the four remaining residents given 48 hours to move out.

    The VBA’s chief executive officer, Sue Eddy, said the decision was not taken lightly.

    She said the building had a number of defects including combustible cladding on the external walls, insufficient essential safety measures and significant water damage that had led to extensive mould.

    “An expert panel was convened and they made an assessment after looking at all the essential fire safety measure of this building that it was not viable for this building to remain occupied and that it needed to be vacated in the interests of public safety,” Ms Eddy said.

    She said she understood this could be a distressing time for the residents, but safety must take priority.

    No, it has nothing to do with public safety, just the safety of the residents who are being turfed out onto the street.

    So, in Victoriastan, you can own your home and then be ordered to leave with 48 hours notice and no guarantee of if, or when, you might be allowed back. No doubt your mortgage, rates, insurance, body corporate fees and so on will continue to be paid by you.

    Back in the USSR, it seems.

  205. classical_hero

    LL, Australians and English umpires can’t officiate in the series.

    We should not have wasted the final review.

  206. bespoke

    Oh come on
    #3140719, posted on August 25, 2019 at 10:31 pm
    When you have a lot of time on your hands, I suppose you can indulge yourself and dream up all kinds of nonsense. You could even press-gang others into your fantasy.

    +1 And drag others down with him. No thanks seen plenty of manipulative self proclaimed geniuses to fall for that.

  207. bespoke

    Snopes being metaphorical.

  208. johanna

    Rob Smith is a gay black conservative who served tours of duty in Afghanistan and the Middle East. Listen here as he describes the reactions when he fronts Democrat Presidential contenders who support reparations at the Iowa State Fair.

    It’s a hoot. He first asks them if they support reparations, (yes) then offers his Paypal and other means of payment, so that they can do it right now. Their reactions are very funny indeed.

    Picked like a nose.

  209. DrBeauGan

    I went out to see the invalid, Maria, yesterday. I was picked up at just after five, and expected it to take forty minutes. I had been told there would be a strange lady in the car, and she stopped it, said “Un momento, ” and went shopping for half an hour. When she’d been gone twenty minutes, the guy she’d been sharing the back seat with got me to phone Maria so she could talk to him. After she had and I’d got the phone back, she asked me to give him 5 cuc to buy some cooking oil, so I gave him 10,and he went off to do some shopping too. Then the female came back and we waited for the bloke to return. Eventually the female had to go and hunt him down. He gave me 5 cuc change.

    So we got to Maria’s house late, everyone seeming to feel they’d made admirable use of the trip to the big city.

    Maria has her hair in a mess to denote sickness and wore a pink short peignoir to denote bedrest. It turned out that her relatives had arrived en masse from their home city. The strange woman was Maria’s older sister. Cousins by the dozens arrived and left.

    I saw the pills Maria had collected from her stay in the hospital and got a description of her treatment. First she had gotten an injection in the arm with what may have been endone or something similar. From her description of the effect it was some sort of opioid. Then she got some antibiotics, which appeared to be working. Her fever was gone, she admitted. She had some painkillers roughly equivalent to ibuprofen that she was working through. She had been told to drink two litres of water a day,

    On the face of it, the quack at the hospital had done a competent job of dealing with Maria and her problem.

    I had taken her muchas agua in bottles, and given the same advice as the quack, which slightly boosted her faith in me and mine in the quack.

    This was my contact with the Cuban health care system. It seems to work.

    Later we sat on the roof of her house and watched the aftermath of the sunset and played music at each other from our phones. The roofs of Cuban houses hold large tanks which hold their water supply.

    Then we ate dinner prepared by the sister and her husband; pork, rice, avocado slices and banana fritters. From the quantity that Maria got through I concluded that despite the messy hair, there is not much wrong with her.

    The taxi back was twenty minutes late arriving but I was back home at ten. Maria had offered to accompany me home, but I pointed out that the awful roads would mean a bumpy ride which might be hard on her kidneys, and she found the argument persuasive.

    None of the instruments on the car worked. Going over railway lines was an experience.

    Cuba, not to be missed.

  210. jupes

    Check out this photo.

    It shows WA Labor President Carolyn Smith apologising to two “Aboriginal elders” for Labor delegates walking out of the WA Labor Conference during the “Welcome to Country” speech.

    Note the following: The two ‘Aboriginal elders” are white. The black bloke playing the didgeridoo is probably not a local Aborigine. Western Australian Aborigines have wavy – not curly – hair.

    Kudos to the delegates for choosing that moment to walk out. May we see a lot more of it.

  211. bespoke

    DrBeauGan
    #3140782, posted on August 26, 2019 at 4:27 am

    Unusual travel log DrBeauGan. Interpersonal relationships are not for every one but they do add to what’s going on.

  212. classical_hero

    The Cardinal Pell case shows why President Trump has been acting slowly in getting his agenda done. First he needs to get the courts in order so they are not run by activist judges. Just watch as he turns the courts to upholding the law and it will be glorious.

  213. John Constantine

    He hits the ball twice to ‘win’ the world cup, then collides with the umpire to not walk or be officially given out when plumb, thus ‘winning’ the test.

    Never touched sandpaper though.

  214. Bruce of Newcastle

    Rob Smith is a gay black conservative who served tours of duty in Afghanistan and the Middle East.

    Another conservative who I suspect is very good at exploding the heads of lefties is a young lady called Morgan Zegers:

    New group launches to warn young people about socialism (25 Aug)

    The 22-year-old Zegers recently founded a nonprofit organization called Young Americans Against Socialism, with the aim of using social media to expose the “failures of socialism” and make capitalism cool again.

    “Socialism is such a threat to this country,” Zegers told Fox News. “It really troubles me.”

    She added: “People in America don’t realize how good we have it. Sure we have some problems that need to be fixed, but socialism is not going to do that.”

    The daughter of U.S. Army Col. Arthur Zegers IV, an Operation Iraqi Freedom veteran, Zegers has been involved in politics since high school in upstate New York, where she became the youngest-known officer in the state’s Veterans of Foreign Wars Ladies’ Auxiliary. During her time at American University in Washington, D.C., Zegers founded Zegers Freedom Flags, a small woodworking business that sells handcrafted wooden American flags, and became involved in making YouTube videos.

    Zegers worked briefly after graduation at the United Service Organizations (USO) and in 2018 ran unsuccessfully for New York State Assembly, before dedicating herself full-time to Young Americans Against Socialism. The group is currently staffed by Zegers and two other people and supports itself much in the same way Bernie Sanders’ presidential campaign does, through small-dollar donations.

    Another bright spark like Candace Owens. It’ll be interesting to see how she gets on.

  215. classical_hero

    24th of August was the 90th anniversary of the Hebron massacre.

  216. Cassie of Sydney

    “classical_hero
    #3140794, posted on August 26, 2019 at 6:52 am
    24th of August was the 90th anniversary of the Hebron massacre.”

    Thanks CH…..these kinds of historical facts are very inconvenient to the Joooo hating left……according to the them Arab Joooo hatred only started with the establishment of the state of Isr**l…cough…cough…cough..

    And lest not forget the other pogroms against Jooos in Hebron…in 1834….in 1517….and of course that is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to pogroms against Jooos by Mueslis in the Arab world….the list is rather long….oh but that’s right….Arab anti-Semitism only began in 1948.

  217. Tel

    Tom #3140776, A.F. Branco.

    And the Democrats? Where’s their hand in this? Dead voters, illegal immigrant motor-voters, out of state voters …

  218. bespoke

    Academics exercise. LOL!

  219. calli

    Looked that up, Classical Hero.

    What an evil story.

  220. Nob

    End all private vehicle ownership say Oxford scholars.

    I saw this in the BBC getting high repetition on the various news and repeated on radio and was gonna post it but I see WattsUp and Jo Nova are all over it already.

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/08/23/uk-govt-committee-end-all-private-vehicle-ownership-because-climate-change/

  221. calli

    Thanks, bespoke, for that vid on “metaphor”. 😁

    As a result, I popped into Babylon Bee for some chuckles. It didn’t disappoint.

    Reality Criticized For Not More Clearly Distinguishing Itself From Satire

    Perfect.

  222. Bruce of Newcastle

    End all private vehicle ownership say Oxford scholars.

    A man’s house is his castle and his car is his chariot.
    Any pollie who wants to take either away is going to be history, instantly.
    Good luck with that idea Oxford cardigan wearers.

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