Open Forum: August 24, 2019

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  1. JC

    Hey Stack

    How big is your letterbox?

  2. calli

    Toughen up Adut. Plenty of people have had the wrong photo published.

    Just as well it wasn’t a mug shot.

  3. Arky

    Armadillo is fine, Arky.

    ..
    That’s a real weight off my mind.

  4. stackja

    Size doesn’t matter.

  5. stackja

    JC ego is large. The wealth? Small?

  6. Arky

    Can’t find much reactions to Trump’s latest tariffs announcement.
    I think we are at an inflection point.
    Things are either going to get rapidly better, or rapidly much worse.

  7. Top Ender

    Dunno Struth – am now only a member of the Artillery Association that runs it.

    The big building – the Defence of Darwin Experience – is government owned, and has something to do with prices I think.

  8. Arky

    Tariffs are good for monkeys:
    ..

    The new tariffs are a concern for U.S. researchers who are struggling to acquire live animals in the midst of intense scrutiny from animal rights groups and continued bans by airlines on transporting them. Animal rights activists, in contrast, view the tariffs as a temporary victory that could slow down the imports of monkeys.

  9. thefrollickingmole

    One of the government mobs who senf me emails has one of the stupidest things ever.
    A fuckign”acknowledgement of country” on an email footer.

    And it ends with some red queen style nonsense.

    I pay my respect to them and their cultures, and to elders both past, present and emerging.

    Fuck off, I pay respects to no-one for the fact they are getting older.
    World is full of evil old shits, no-one gets an automatic sainthood because they outlived most of those who know what an asshole you were when you were younger.

  10. Nick

    and emerging.

    Unless it’s ‘just a clump of cells’

  11. Gab

    Where’s Armadillo?
    What have you bastards done with him?

    Calli knitted him a jumper and a couple of us then roasted him but decided that lamb roast was the better option.

  12. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I pay my respect to them and their cultures, and to elders both past, present and emerging.

    The latest is that “It’s a priveledge to be standing on (Aboriginal) land.”

  13. egg_

    Where’s Armadillo?
    What have you bastards done with him?

    Giraffe attack?

  14. thefrollickingmole

    Animal rights activists, in contrast, view the tariffs as a temporary victory that could slow down the imports of monkeys.

    Move over puppy breeders, Im going to start a monkey mill.
    Im sure the neighbors wont mind the sounds and smells of 100 frotting gibbons kept in the back shed.

  15. candy

    stackja
    Whenever JC has a go at you, just say “whatever”, and ignore him, just like Trump. He’ll hate it.
    🙂

  16. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    There has been no court ruling to stop a father from seeing his son, and therefore he has as much right as her and more rights than anyone else.

    family court orders are not worth the toilet paper they are written on. they are essentially worthless noise. if you try to get a custody family court order enforced that she has broken all she has to do is make a half plausible vague excuse and she will be let off and told not to do it again… and again … and again… and again until you cotton on that for her they are more like court advice than actual enforceable orders.

  17. egg_

    Hey Stack

    How big is your letterbox?

    Big enough for those 12″ mail order condoms?

  18. egg_

    Im sure the neighbors wont mind the sounds and smells of 100 frotting gibbons kept in the back shed.

    Can we put them in hiviz and teach them to do lollipop duties?

  19. Some History

    For J oos living in Q-ba

    Havana gila

  20. Bruce of Newcastle

    Don’t let crows into Bunnings.

    It’s no secret crows are smart. They’re notorious for frustrating attempts to keep them from tearing into garbage cans; more telling, however, is that they are one of the few animals known to make tools.

    “One potential answer for why tool use evolved is because crows are used to picking up objects and caching them,” she said. “They actually love, when you’re experimenting with them, to pick up your equipment and cache it way up high where you can’t get it.”

    Once crows started using tools, she said, the fact that it made them feel good encouraged them to keep at it, refining and developing the behavior further.

    Don’t let them into McDonalds either.

    A new study published in The Condor: Ornithological Applications suggests that a diet of human foods such as discarded cheeseburgers might be giving American Crows living in urban areas higher blood cholesterol levels than their rural cousins.

    Crows are bogan.

    After using tools, crows behave more optimistically, study suggests (23 Aug)
    Urban living leads to high cholesterol… in crows (26 Aug)

  21. Stackja:

    In an emotional Instagram post, the South Sudanese-Australian model said the mistake had “deeply affected” her.

    No, sorry – ugly.
    She doesn’t look that good either.

  22. Old Lefty

    Don’t understand why the ABC is billing tonight’s Q&A as a High School special. 95%of its output these days never rises above the level of the Year 9C Marxism collective at Manangatang High.

  23. Boambee John

    JC

    Jezebel wears hubcaps? I never….

    Two, a bit of shock cord, makes a bra.

    Bit chilly in winter, I’m told.

  24. calli

    Optimistic crows with high blood pressure.

    It can’t end well.

  25. Old Lefty

    Hmm. I think I’ve just hit on the solution for privatising the ABC.

  26. JC

    Bruce

    I have huge respect for the fuckers since the time I saw what one did and reported on it here. I was on a very busy road, waiting for the traffic light when in the corner on my eye I saw a paper bag tossed out of a garbage bin and black wings flapping. The crow flew out of the bin and then began to stick his head inside what looked like a maccas paper bag, which i think may have had fries. Total respect. In fact, I dare say, that crow showed more intelligence than a few regular commenters here. I wouldn’t expect them to be so deft.

  27. calli

    I think these were the hubcaps JC had in mind.

  28. John Constantine

    How many dollars of aid funding do the chicoms funnel through the clinton syndicate?.

    Is the Tyrant too silly to understand the value of donating to the clinton family to get money moving, and Australia got the clintonian bargain for all our money?.

    Or was Australia too dumb to realise we could just hack the clintons phones and emails for free to get the same outcome?.

    Here is Good Senator Dave asking senate committee about donating to papua new guinea through the Cosa Clintonia.

    On 17 March 2017 the Senate’s foreign affairs committee heard the following exchange:

    Senator LEYONHJELM: At the previous estimates in October last year I asked about the Australian government funding to Clinton related charities.

    Mr McDonald : Yes.

    Senator LEYONHJELM: I was advised that payments were continuing to occur to the Clinton Health Access Initiative and that $11 million was paid to this initiative in 2015-16. Then there was an article on news.com.au on 28 November last year which ran under the headline, ‘Australia ceases multinational dollar donations to controversial Clinton family charities’. My question is: have any decisions regarding Australian government funding to Clinton related charities been made since the previous estimates?

    Mr McDonald : I do not believe so. I will check that on notice. I think when we discussed this last time there was one program continuing under the Clinton health initiative, as you mentioned, and that is the only one that I am aware of.

    Senator LEYONHJELM: There is a memorandum of understanding between the government and the Clinton Health Access Initiative from September 2014 which included collaboration to address malaria control in the greater Mekong region for the next five years, which would carry it through to 2019. Is that the collaboration that you are talking about?

    Mr McDonald : I am not sure that had any funding associated with it. I am fairly sure it did not, but I will ask Mr Exell to confirm that. As I said earlier, I am only aware of one that is still continuing with funding associated with it.

    Mr Exell : Just to concur with that. Yes, my understanding is that there was a broad memorandum of understanding signed. There was no specific dollars attached to that. The only active activity funding with the Clinton Health Access Initiative is in Papua New Guinea, and we have already covered that.

    Senator LEYONHJELM: Is payment on that program continuing?

    Mr Sloper : Yes, it is continuing. The program runs through in three phases. We are currently in the last phase, being 2016. It is in relation to HIV—for which, as you would appreciate, PNG has one of the highest rates. We have engaged with the Clinton Foundation, who have particular expertise in that area on the ground there.

    Mr Exell : Can I suggest that it is important to recognise the difference between the Clinton Foundation and the Clinton Health Access Initiative. The article that you are referring to referred to agreements with the Clinton Foundation, of which there have been none for a number of years.

    Senator LEYONHJELM: You may need to take this one on notice. You said the Clinton Foundation was zero. For the Clinton Health Access Initiative so far in 2016-17 what is estimated for this year and next year? If you have that handy; otherwise you can take it on notice.

    Mr Exell : We will take that on notice. I would make one other point. You referred to a program in Vietnam. That program finished in December 2015.

    Senator LEYONHJELM: That is interesting because I was under the impression that the MOU was signed in 2014 and it was for a five-year collaboration. Is that not the case?

    Mr Exell : Again, we are confusing the broad MOU between the Clinton Health Access Initiative, which had no dollars and no specific activities, versus the Mekong activity that you referred to, which was a specific thing. I will double check. I will take it on notice but my understanding is that program finished in December 2015.

    Senator LEYONHJELM: I asked you what continuing funding there is. If that is included then that is fine. If not, otherwise, it is just the PNG project, I presume.

  29. thefrollickingmole

    Can we put them in hiviz and teach them to do lollipop duties?

    Egg, nice try but nothing breeds with lollpop/high viz creatures.

  30. Bruce of Newcastle

    that crow showed more intelligence than a few regular commenters here

    Maybe we all need to lose some weight?

    Big brains or big guts: Choose one (23 Aug)

    Big brains can help an animal mount quick, flexible behavioral responses to frequent or unexpected environmental changes. But some birds just don’t need ’em.

    A global study comparing 2,062 birds finds that, in highly variable environments, birds tend to have either larger or smaller brains relative to their body size. Birds with smaller brains tend to use ecological strategies that are not available to big-brained counterparts. Instead of relying on grey matter to survive, these birds tend to have large bodies, eat readily available food and make lots of babies.

    The new research from biologists at Washington University in St. Louis appears Aug. 23 in the journal Nature Communications.

    “The fact is that there are a great many species that do quite well with small brains,” said Trevor Fristoe, formerly a postdoctoral researcher at Washington University, now at the University of Konstanz in Germany.

    Easy access to welfare probably helps too.

  31. egg_

    nothing breeds with lollpop/high viz creatures.

    I’ll pay that one.

  32. Cassie of Sydney

    Just uploaded by Avi Yemini….the state of Victoria is so lucky..a perfect stew of dickhead leftists and a completely inept and supine police force…

  33. Some History

    Nobody likes Scott:
    Australian PM sheepishly glances down at his phone as he cuts a lonely figure at the G7 – while the rest of the world leaders chat and laugh amongst each other.

    SloMo was frantically googling “What is name of Canadian Prime Minister?”

  34. mh

    Once upon a time Hollywood actors supported the Free Tibet movement.

    Then they were instructed what they new cause célèbre was that they had to support.

  35. Bruce of Newcastle

    SloMo was frantically googling “What is name of Canadian Prime Minister?”

    He needn’t bother. Trudeau won’t be there much longer. The election is on 21 Oct.
    Another carbon tax victim.

  36. Knuckle Dragger

    struth,

    The East Point Military Museum is cheaper for NT punters (I believe) than every other punter because they’ve long encouraged intra-NT tourism, if you can believe that.

    They do the same thing at at least one of the crocodile parks up here, as well as a half-decent wildlife park over a pretty decent acreage about half an hour south of town.

  37. John Constantine

    Even so, in 2001 the Dalai Lama said: “Tibet, materially, is very, very backward. Spiritually it is quite rich. But spirituality can’t fill our stomachs.”

    Freedom for Tibet is not simply a case of liberation from China and the reinstatement of traditional values. Around 70 per cent of the population lives below the poverty line and enhanced spirituality alone will not improve economic conditions. Poverty is not quaint no matter how colourful the culture and the Tibet question is one that should be addressed from a rational, rather than an idealised viewpoint.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2009/feb/10/tibet-china-feudalism

  38. Some History

    SloMo was frantically googling “What is name of Canadian Prime Minister?”
    He needn’t bother. Trudeau won’t be there much longer. The election is on 21 Oct.
    Another carbon tax victim.

    Trudeau. Say no more.

    https://imgur.com/lJbbNc3

  39. Knuckle Dragger

    Dear Adut the Supermodel,

    No-one cares that someone else’s photo has your name on it.

    No-one. In fact, you only call yourself a supermodel because your publicist once said you were, shortly before trousering a hefty percentage of your Australian dollars.

    You were not ‘deeply affected’ by this experience. Having your mud hut burnt down and your entire family, male and female, tied down then roped before being set on fire and left to die of burns and exposure would have deeply affected you. But that didn’t happen because despite their obvious efforts to date, the Government has yet to achieve bringing the Janjaweed here.

    You are not special. A whiny Communist Melbourne hunchback has more photos taken of him on a daily basis than you. Koalas are more photographed than you. There are 200 million year old bones lying in the dirt near Muttaburra in Queensland that are more photographed, and more relevant than you.

    Learn some skills, stop looking like a pouty under-appreciated misery guts and be glad your lot got out of your shithole and live in one of the greatest countries on Earth. For the moment.

    Sincerely,

    Australia

    PS: Not special.

  40. Knuckle Dragger

    And while on the subject of NT Government idiocy:

    A year ago, they paid a bunch of consultants eleventy gasquillion dollars to come up with a new slogan for the NT. Not just for tourism, but for everything. Six months the ponytail-wearers worked, and eventually came up with this magnum opus:

    Boundless Possible.

    That’s it. Two words, apparently selected at random- although there’s a suggestion a similar slogan from Dubai, although that one apparently made some sort of sense, was stolen by the emerging baristas.

    This piece of unadulterated shit now adorns each and every NT Government bit of paper and/or sign. god only knows how much I’m paying for it.

    Mind you, this is the same government that decided to lease a port to three billion Chinese punters, and approves of a local council installing imported facial recognition cameras as a ‘marketing exercise’.

  41. Roger

    We may laugh at ScoMo at the G7, but he was invited by Trump, an honour PM Bill Shorten would never have received.

    Meantime, could the host of the next summit, Boris Johnson, be prevailed upon to invite Marine Le Pen as an observer?

  42. Geriatric Mayfly

    United Airlines plane turns around mid-way to Hawaii due to mechanical issue: report

    If it was mid-way why didn’t it keep on course?

  43. Mark A

    Geriatric Mayfly
    #3141225, posted on August 26, 2019 at 7:20 pm

    United Airlines plane turns around mid-way to Hawaii due to mechanical issue: report

    If it was mid-way why didn’t it keep on course?

    Wind direction?

  44. Roger

    PNG demanding a direct cash injection into its budget from Australia, else it will turn to China.

  45. Roger

    Boundless Possible.

    Peak Stupidity.

  46. Eyrie

    I note that the high cholesterol crows don’t seem to be doing too badly. Hmmm….

  47. Eyrie

    Just saw Frydchickenburger on Bolt. Jeez, what a moron. We’re finished.
    Just abolish the RET, make electricity half the cost to business and watch the economy go.

  48. Bruce in WA

    A year ago, they paid a bunch of consultants eleventy gasquillion dollars to come up with a new slogan for the NT. Not just for tourism, but for everything. Six months the ponytail-wearers worked, and eventually came up with this magnum opus:

    Boundless Possible.

    A few weeks back I got an email from NT Tourism. Part of the text read:

    “The NT offers some of the world’s most unique travel experiences.

    From traversing the Red Centre to getting up close and personal with a crocodile, the NT will leave you with memories to treasure forever.

    Here are the top things you can only do in the NT!”

    It got up my nostrils, so I sent back:

    “Nice ad … BUT …

    What you meant to say is “Things you can do ONLY in the NT”; i.e. you can’t do them elsewhere.

    Big difference.

    I guess while we’re at it it, you can’t use “most unique”. “Unique” is an absolute; it can’t carry a qualifier.

    Nevertheless, we will be back again soon to “Do the NT”.

    Regards”

    Never heard back ;-D ;-D

  49. Roger

    Just saw Frydchickenburger on Bolt. Jeez, what a moron.

    Sent to Oxford & Harvard as a scholarship lad, I believe.

    Poor return on our investment.

  50. John Constantine

    Dr Johnston said when defects were found, they were generally a chronic problem across a building.

    “It’s not isolated to one type or one part of the building. It’s across multiple areas in relation to how the building is being constructed,” she said.

    https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-18/how-bad-could-the-apartment-building-crisis-be-in-your-state/11413122

    667,000 apartments in 18 years. What could go wrong?

    By Sean Nicholls, Sharon O’Neill and Naomi Selvaratnam

    Four Corners
    Updated 18 Aug 2019, 10:10am
    Published 18 Aug 2019, 8:08am

    For the past two decades, Australia has been in an apartment building boom.

    Governments have got out of the way, removing red tape and introducing private certification for an industry that’s worth more than $141 billion*.

    But when Sydney’s Opal and Mascot Towers were evacuated because of structural cracking, the issue of defective high-rises was laid bare.

    Experts have told Four Corners that the problem stretches across the country and many apartments built in the last 20 years are likely to contain some kind of defect.

  51. P

    Yesterday I celebrated alone the anniversary of my wedding 55yrs ago, though my sister did phone me.
    Tomorrow I will celebrate my beloved’s 83rd birthday. He didn’t make 70yrs here on this earth, but I see him so often through his children, particularly our sons.
    As an indulgence I post here a song from an old 78 he loaned me, as young nurse back in the early 60s, which I still have today, featuring Al Caiola and Tony Mattola.

  52. Roger

    Governments have got out of the way, removing red tape and introducing private certification for an industry that’s worth more than $141 billion.

    Who led the charge for private building inspectors?

    Government building inspectors.

  53. Roger:

    PNG demanding a direct cash injection into its budget from Australia, else it will turn to China.

    Then PNG can just piss off, AFAIC.
    One thing, though – I bet the Chinese push a 4 lane highway/dual railway from Lae to Port Moresby.
    Just in case it’s needed.

  54. Roger

    One thing, though – I bet the Chinese push a 4 lane highway/dual railway from Lae to Port Moresby.
    Just in case it’s needed.

    Marape et. al. would be well advised to heed the old proverb:

    If you are going to sup with the devil, take a long spoon.

  55. Crossie

    Poverty is not quaint no matter how colourful the culture and the Tibet question is one that should be addressed from a rational, rather than an idealised viewpoint.

    Whatever happened to Richard Gere’s championing of Tibet? Didn’t he even claim to have converted to Buddhism? His latest pleadings on behalf of the illegal boat arrivals in the Mediterranean may suggest he has converted to a different cause.

  56. Eyrie

    “Who led the charge for private building inspectors?

    Government building inspectors.”

    Sounds like CASA which has set up a system where various sport aviation activities will be run by private bodies which used to be advocates for their members until effectively taken over by CASA . Lets see how the duck shoving of responsibility goes when an ultralight hits a school and incinerates 20 kids.

  57. Frank

    I think these were the hubcaps JC had in mind.

    Hubba hubba.

  58. Some History

    His [Gere] latest pleadings on behalf of the illegal boat arrivals in the Mediterranean may suggest he has converted to a different cause.

    He’s become a pirate?

  59. Crossie

    PNG demanding a direct cash injection into its budget from Australia, else it will turn to China.

    They can go right ahead and afterwards they can forget about migrating to Australia when things don’t work out, we are full.

  60. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Learn some skills, stop looking like a pouty under-appreciated misery guts and be glad your lot got out of your shithole and live in one of the greatest countries on Earth. For the moment.

    Seems the latest in her tossing her toys out of the pram is that “this would never happened if she had been white..”

  61. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Seems the latest in her tossing her toys out of the pram is that “this would never happened if she had been white..”

    From the Sydney Moaning Hemorrhoid.

    Akech, 19, said the error flew in the face of the message she was trying to convey in the interview.

    “By this happening I feel like it defeated the purpose of what I stand for and spoke about. It goes to show that people are very ignorant and narrow minded that they think every black girl or African people looks the same,” she wrote.

    The model, who has walked for Chanel and Valentino, said that although Who apologised to her, “this would’ve not happened to a white model”.

    “This has deeply affected me and we need to start an important conversation that needs to happen,” she wrote. “I’m sure that I’m not the first person that’s experienced this and it needs to stop.

    “I’ve been called by the name of another models who happens to be of the same ethnicity, I find it very ignorant, rude and disrespectful towards both of us simply because we know that this doesn’t happen with white models.”

  62. Crossie

    Some History
    #3141253, posted on August 26, 2019 at 7:59 pm
    His [Gere] latest pleadings on behalf of the illegal boat arrivals in the Mediterranean may suggest he has converted to a different cause.

    He’s become a pirate?

    He wants the Europeans to take everyone from Africa who crosses the Mediterranean. It prompted the Italian Deputy Prime Minister to suggest that Gere should take them with him to Hollywood since he was so concerned.

  63. Farmer Gez

    I’m not a viewer of the 7.3o Report so I haven’t seen Laura Tingle in action but tonight I did.

    A lump of wood with a couple of nails in it would have more camera savvy and appeal than Laura.

    Shacking up with an old actor seems to have no effect on her TV skills.

  64. Crossie

    This has deeply affected me and we need to start an important conversation that needs to happen,”

    Yes, I need to be lectured on important issued by a 19 year old whose only talent is to wear clothes, walk and glare sullenly. And I don’t mean that she is the only model who glares sullenly, they all do.

  65. Top Ender

    A Current Affair are running an online poll as to whether people should be allowed to climb Ayers Rock.

    The link is to Spacechook – might not work.

  66. egg_

    Where’s Armadillo?
    What have you bastards done with him?

    Last sighted in a blue floral dress going for a wax.

  67. Old Lefty

    Windschuttle’s piece is a must read. Not only has ‘beyond reasonable doubt’ been reduced to The Vibe (‘possible to imagine’, ‘ring of truth’), but the Daniels come to judgement have also, in their schizoid approach to evaluating the testimony of The Kid and the other witnesses, declared war on the principle of non-contradiction

  68. Top Ender

    P’s Johnny Mathis is still with us – the original smoothie.

    Thought nothing beats Dean Martin for a self-depreciating grin.

  69. BrettW

    Much comment has been made about the recent losses of Gillette after their “woke” ad.

    Does anybody know if Schick has had an increased profit as a result ?

    Today saw a good ad that the “woke” companies might learn from. Son reconnects with his father who has survived cancer treatment and does so by fishing and camping as they did when he was a kid. Ad was for Great Northern beer which was shown as they were drinking at the end of their fishing day.

  70. Old Lefty

    And the principle of non-contradiction, as anyone who has studied logic for five minutes will know, is an essential precondition for not talking gibberish.

  71. Crossie

    Much comment has been made about the recent losses of Gillette after their “woke” ad.

    Does anybody know if Schick has had an increased profit as a result ?

    If Schick are smart they won’t comment at all. Customers just want a good product at a reasonable price.

  72. mh

    Top Ender
    #3141266, posted on August 26, 2019 at 8:16 pm
    A Current Affair are running an online poll as to whether people should be allowed to climb Ayers Rock.

    The link is to Spacechook – might not work.

    Just voted Yes to climbing Ayers Rock.

    Yes 49.7 No 50.3

  73. BrettW

    Justice Weinberg has made his two fellow Appeal judges look incompetent. They should retire in embarrassment.

    Well done Weinberg.

  74. Boambee John

    Old Lefty
    #3141274, posted on August 26, 2019 at 8:26 pm
    And the principle of non-contradiction, as anyone who has studied logic for five minutes will know, is an essential precondition for not talking gibberish.

    Which explains why it has no place in the administration of law in Victoria, and a declining place in the rest of Australia.

  75. Top Ender

    Some useful links to throw at Amazon hysterical SJW types.

    Actually, the oceans produce about half of the world’s oxygen:

    https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/6/source-of-half-earth-s-oxygen-gets-little-credit/

    And therefore the Amazon, by sheer geographical space alone, cannot produce 20% of the remaining 50% – that would be about half of the oxygen produced through plant-based photosynthesis.

    The actuality is:

    Amazon Burning Not An Oxygen Problem: 20% Figure At Least Three Times Too High

    Coverage of the fires raging in the Amazon rainforest are incredibly concerning, but many stories describing the fires include the inaccurate figure that the Amazon represents 20% of the planet’s oxygen production. Multiple climate scientists have pointed out that this is wrong.

    https://climatenexus.org/climate-change-news/amazon-burning-not-an-oxygen-problem-20-figure-at-least-three-times-too-high/

  76. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Greg Combet and the industry super funds are, according to an article in The Australian, acting as a huge group and hatching a plot to pressure industries to “decarbonise”.

    Anyone who has their super with these cretins has two options. Either withdraw it and put in a fund that understands that investing other people’s money has fiduciary requirements and legal responsibilities. Or write to the fund and remind them of those same legal constraints.

    The other half’s super fund attempted to go down this path earlier in the year. Emails were sent to remind them that the role of superannuation funds is to maximise member returns subject to their fiduciary responsibilities. After a fair bit of obsfucation, they finally and admitted those legal constraints and withdrew their agenda.

  77. 132andBush

    I hesitate to ask this but does anyone (Esp Sinc) know anything about the “Climate Cron”, supposably a crypto-currency?

  78. cohenite

    Just uploaded by Avi Yemini….the state of Victoria is so lucky..a perfect stew of dickhead leftists and a completely inept and supine police force…

    I liked it when Avi called the lesso who was with the aggressive bitch a bloke. But seriously victoriastan is gone; although NSW with its wallopers is not far behind as the Lindt Café law suit being settled out of court and confidentially shows.

  79. John Constantine

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-26/opioids-crackdown-see-patients-in-pain-without-painkillers/11438406

    In July last year the Australian Government’s Chief Medical Officer, Brendan Murphy, sent letters to almost 5,000 GPs warning them their prescriptions of opioids were being monitored.

    Last week the government announced it would be making post-operative opioid pack sizes smaller, and is changing indications for the powerful narcotic fentanyl so it can only be used for cancer and palliative care patients.

    “We do not want Australia to be in the situation of America,” Professor Murphy told 7.30.

    Opioids in Australia

    In 2016, 1,045 Australians died from opioid overdose
    Of those, 712 were attributed to pharmaceutical opioids like morphine, codeine, oxycodone, fentanyl and tramadol
    The overdose rate rose from 3.8 to 6.6 per 1,000,000 people between 2007 and 2016
    The highest death rates were between ages 35 and 44 and among males

    *NDARC and AIHW

    “We have a thousand opioid related overdose deaths a year in Australia, that is a thousand avoidable deaths.”

    In the United States more than 900 people die each week from opioid overdoses.

    Despite outcry from GPs, Professor Murphy defended his letter.

    “All we were saying was, these are the data, look at your practise and reflect,” he said.

    “And if you’re using opioids in non-cancer chronic pain, you should consider your practise and modify your practise.”

    The coming wave of medical marijuana compounds designed for non-cancer chronic pain will be slower to arrive in Australia than they should be. Despite media releases, the medical marijuana reformation of the australian prescription drug Tyranny just seems to be failing to make traction against a wall of well paid operators.
    Comrades.

  80. JC

    the Lindt Café law suit being settled out of court and confidentially shows.

    What law suit? Explain, without pretending you’re angrified someone dared ask you a question, you dunderhead.

  81. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Lindt Café law suit being settled out of court and confidentially shows.

    Shameful and disgusting.

  82. vlad

    Louise “Rumour” Milligan has been listing all the runs her side has racked up against the Cardinal – and to her disbelief, it’s still not enough for some people!!

    And one of the points she lists is that her book won a Walkley. Imagine that: it won a Walkley and we’re still doubting it.

    Also that the doubters are in the minority.

    I’d rather be in the minority with Weinberg J than in the majority with Louise Milligan.

  83. Mark A

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #3141293, posted on August 26, 2019 at 8:55 pm

    Lindt Café law suit being settled out of court and confidentially shows.

    Shameful and disgusting.

    Incompetent police preventing competent response by snipers ready to act.
    Protecting their turf and hubris does that.

  84. JC

    No need Cronkite. I read it.

    Let me guess this right. The sniper filed a lawsuit claiming he could have taken a shot and taken out the murderous thug, but NSW police incompetence prevented this. He suffered mental anguish and therefore sued and the case is now settled, which means he received comp.

    This is so fucked on so many levels I don’t I’m actually lost for words.

    He sued because he wasn’t allowed to kill someone. He sued and settled. FMD.

    We are fucked.

  85. Leigh Lowe

    What law suit? Explain, without pretending you’re angrified someone dared ask you a question, you dunderhead.

    The sniper who had the worthless rag-head in the crosshairs was suing NSW Police command because they wouldn’t give anyone the green light to put one into said rag-head.
    Rag-head then executed Tory Johnson and Katrina Johnson bought the farm after the flash-bang Keystone Cops sprayed bucket of shrapnel through the cafe.
    Settled out of court to avoid subpoenas being issued to sofy-cock command.

  86. John Constantine

    https://weathermodificationhistory.com/climate-global-control-trading-llc-steering-hurricanes-ionospheric-technology/

    Russian Mafia make it rain, Yes?.

    So it Rain, you pay Russian ex-spetnaz consultant, Yes?.

    We also protect you from tidal wave in Riverina, No Charge.

    [ the actual energy needed to force change on a weather system is ‘shitloads’]

  87. Boambee John

    JC

    One of the police snipers sued the force, alleging incompetence at high levels in managing the siege.

    The rozzers paid him off rather than face him in court. Admission of guilt much?

  88. JC

    Mark A

    Incompetent cops is one thing. Suing and then receiving comp because the cops didn’t allow you to take a shot is on a whole new level of lawfare.

  89. JC

    Leigh

    Incompetent .. of course they are! However, the big guys are the ones calling the shots… literally. How on earth could this be a case brought to court where the trigger man gets a fucking payout?

  90. mh

    Kristina Keneally is on Q and A tonight apparently.

    Cohenite may be absent for an hour or so.

  91. JC

    Cohenite may be absent for an hour or so.

    He’ll be apportioning rates for tomorrow’s land transfer.

  92. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Shameful and disgusting.

    Also posted on Catallaxy twice already.

  93. Tel

    One thing, though – I bet the Chinese push a 4 lane highway/dual railway from Lae to Port Moresby. Just in case it’s needed.

    Nice and sturdy, to handle heavy equipment.

    Wait until they build a new school … errr education complex … in your suburb.

  94. Delcon

    Louise “Rumour” Milligan has been listing all the runs her side.

    The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

  95. John Constantine

    https://7news.com.au/sunday-night/medical-cannabis-debate-australians-left-in-pain-by-expensive-and-limited-access-to-drug-c-378990?fbclid=IwAR1qGKeqCJHEVNDawRLAZ1XZokF9MXr9nsL6-u5EGW56YFPOPqf9Zaf415E

    Although Ben Oakley can no longer get his cannabis from Jenny, he got lucky and qualified for a rare medicinal cannabis prescription. But there’s a huge catch – the cost.

    “$1,695 in advance every three weeks to provide the only medication that has given my son any form of relief,” reveals Michael.

  96. Delcon

    How on earth could this be a case brought to court where the trigger man gets a fucking payout?

    Don’t agree with you on much, JC, but I agree on this one.
    The solution is simple: the Law should not recognise emotional pain as a legal concept. If anyone was injured physically, then: OK, sue; but, so called emotional injuries? How do you measure that?
    Whether the Police made the right call or not we can all discuss and have opinions about. But they did not break the law and, probably, regardless of the outcome, only tried to do the best thing.

  97. JC

    Delcon

    Truly, I don’t give a rats if you agree with me or not.

  98. BrettW

    $540 per week for medicinal cannabis prescription.

    Forgive my ignorance but I presume the illegal stuff is much cheaper.

  99. cohenite

    Pull your head out of your sun glistened arse head prefect.

  100. JC

    Pull your head out of your sun glistened arse head prefect.

    Oh okay, you agree with the payout. Should have realized.

  101. BrettW

    I read somewhere today that the current Commissioner NSW said the sniper could have made the decision to shoot Monis on his own. I call BS on that and if anything his comment likely to cause more emotional problems for the sniper.

  102. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Incompetent police preventing competent response by snipers ready to act.
    Protecting their turf and hubris does that.

    Protecting their turf at all costs, when the professionals – Two Commando – had built a replica of the Lindt Cafe, and spent hours working out how to storm the place. Seems votes from the R. o P in certain Western suburbs were more important.

  103. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Nice and sturdy, to handle heavy equipment.’

    I was going to say, ‘like tanks’.

    But then I realised that you could summarily defeat PNG with a couple of wheat bags full of fortune cookies dropped from a chopper. Cargo cult and all that.

    We’re not too far behind, aside from the special forces punters. Give us shiny things, and we won’t notice what happens for the next ten years.

  104. Mark A

    Delcon
    #3141323, posted on August 26, 2019 at 9:18 pm

    The solution is simple: the Law should not recognise emotional pain as a legal concept. If anyone was injured physically, then: OK, sue; but, so called emotional injuries?

    What’s even more troubling is that we have this kind of persons on the police force anywhere in OZ

  105. twostix

    I pay my respect to them and their cultures, and to elders both past, present and emerging.

    They’re trying to push a new religion onto the proles.

    It’s like a kind of liek a new dissolution that they’re forcing on us.

    “Here is your new religion, here are your new prayers, here are your new idols, here are your acceptable social mores, now be silent about it or we’ll terrorise your community and arrest you”.

  106. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Forgive my ignorance but I presume the illegal stuff is much cheaper.

    Ever so slightly, Brett.
    Or so I have been told.

    And so it should be cheaper – it grows like a bloody weed.
    Or so I have been told.

  107. Cassie of Sydney

    “Whether the Police made the right call or not we can all discuss and have opinions about. But they did not break the law and, probably, regardless of the outcome, only tried to do the best thing.”

    No….the police did not make the right call that day and night……and they did not try and do the best thing for the people being held hostage in that cafe…they were more concerned with political correctness and the sensitivities of a religious minority.

  108. John Constantine

    On the cryptocurrency representing the cost of the barrel of fresh water.

    As a water converting business i grasp at these things, but content myself with the observation that if man controlling the weather ever does become a possibility, it won’t matter if i am a year or two late getting onboard the scheme, because the economic transformation will result in a profitless boom for food production and an end to independent cocky farmers, as huge capital funds-corporate or socialist- will evolve to apply weather control to huge landholdings.

  109. Cassie of Sydney

    “Seems votes from the R. o P in certain Western suburbs were more important.”

    Yep…the whole thing was a disgrace.

  110. JC

    No….the police did not make the right call that day and night……and they did not try and do the best thing for the people being held hostage in that cafe…they were more concerned with political correctness and the sensitivities of a religious minority.

  111. JC

    All that and more, BUT does the trigger guy deserve a payout?

  112. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘But they did not break the law’

    Comfort, for the families of the dead punters.

    The last thing they need is worrying about legislation, and for the ‘decision-makers’, political ramifications as well. Bet your bottom dollar at least one of those braid-wearing peanuts was thinking ‘RooooPy backlash’ while dithering.

    The days of cordon and containment are gone. Make the decision. Put the baddie down. Figure out the best way to do it (in all likelihood 2CDO).

    Make it so.

  113. twostix

    The solution is simple: the Law should not recognise emotional pain as a legal concept.

    You sound like an autist. So the law should send someone to jail for punching someone, but not for sticking a gun in their face and telling them they’re about to die.

  114. John Constantine

    Under current australian restrictions, a dollars worth of medical marijuana requires ten dollars worth of regulations and compliance to get into the hands of the patient.

    Allegations that single room government compliance office chokepoints are almost designed to function as a barrier to any threat to big crony/big donor pharma.

    Meanwhile, opiates kill a couple dozen a week, and the australian medical system is ordered to prescribe nothing but half a panadol for anything except terminal cancer.

    Comrades.

  115. Des Deskperson

    Just in case you were wondering, the Honourable Ros Kelly AO, former ALP MHR for the seat of Canberra from 1980 – 1994 is now – presumably – living in the UK and serving as an adviser to ‘Women On Boards UK’, as a Commissioner of the Commonwealth War Graves Commission and and as Chair of the Commonwealth War graves Foundation. I know because I got some crap – dunno why me – from the Latrobe University Alumni London Chapter telling me that this ‘Australian political trailblazer’ will be the guest speaker at an upcoming function, ‘an event not to be missed’.

    Kelly is the former spouse of Oz journo Paul Kelly – ‘he’s well rid of her’, a taxi driver once told me – and best know nationally for her relentless feminist self promotion and for the ‘sports rorts’, aka the ‘Whiteboard’affair which led to her exit from politics. She had a reputation around Canberra as a appalling person, rude to hairdressers, waiters, taxi-drivers and ALP branch members and puffed up with ‘don’t you know who I am?’ entitlement. Whether this reputation was fair or not, she lost the seat of Canberra to the Liberals, a very significant inverted achievement.

    She may now at least be doing some good with the War Graves Commission.

  116. twostix

    The police sniper thing is clown universe.

    He’ll do as he’s told one way or the other and stfu about it. He got paid that week already. It’s literally his job to sit there and watch ugly stuff through a scope.

  117. Mater

    One of the police snipers sued the force, alleging incompetence at high levels in managing the siege.

    The Sniper has the incompetence bit right, but if he was the dude sighting up Man Monis from the Mezzanine level inside the Channel Seven building, he couldn’t have made the shot anyway.

    I hope the bloke in question was in a different position, otherwise he’s been kidding himself all these years.

  118. Des Deskperson

    ‘One thing, though – I bet the Chinese push a 4 lane highway/dual railway from Lae to Port Moresby. Just in case it’s needed.’

    The Chinese Railway Construction Corporation is already building the new PNG High Court Building in Port Moresby.

  119. Knuckle Dragger

    Information at hand is that the sniper concerned had Monis cross-haired while he was in the process of putting Johnson on his knees in front of him.

    Seeing what was coming, asked repeatedly for the ok to drop the hammer on him. No, no, no…..

    Bang. Hostage down. Watched by the sniper through his scope.

    The understanding is that the sniper didn’t freak out about not being able to shoot somebody, but despite being able to prevent someone else being killed was prevented from doing so by management.

  120. cohenite

    Latest from the whacky world of RoP including kraut demographics and the hatchet faced bitch omar:

    https://www.jihadwatch.org/

  121. twostix

    I’m quite triggered when I see groups of NSW police menacingly swaggering around with their giant Bat Utility Belts on and Glock’s strapped to their thigh like some para-military occupying army and then keep reading stories of them refusing to use them against foreign killers.

    I’d like a payout.

  122. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘It’s literally his job to sit there and watch ugly stuff through a scope.’

    No, it is literally not.

    They have drones and all sorts of shit to do that in real time. It IS his job to take down fuckwits from a distance.

  123. Mark A

    Knuckle Dragger
    #3141373, posted on August 26, 2019 at 9:38 pm

    The understanding is that the sniper didn’t freak out about not being able to shoot somebody, but despite being able to prevent someone else being killed was prevented from doing so by management.

    Makes a slight difference, puts the whole thing in a different light, still seems to be a bit fragile for someone tasked to kill on command.

  124. zyconoclast

    Supermodel Adut Akech has touched down in Melbourne amid a racism storm after slamming a major magazine for publishing a picture of a different black model alongside a profile of her.

    The mistake was easy to make.
    They are both fugly.

  125. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘ Glock’s strapped to their thigh’

    *Glocks (if they’re not the Sig Sauers) strapped to their thighs*

    Also, you don’t need to capitalise Bat Utility Belts. It’s not a brand or a title.

    ‘keep reading stories of them’

    What others have you read?

  126. twostix

    No, it is literally not.

    They have drones and all sorts of shit to do that in real time. It IS his job to take down fuckwits from a distance.

    He lies there for hours during sieges watching through a scope waiting to be told to shoot someone (which doesn’t happen 99% of the time).

    That’s his literal job. Watching stuff through a scope.

    Not bright are you.

  127. Mitch M.

    Under current australian restrictions, a dollars worth of medical marijuana requires ten dollars worth of regulations and compliance to get into the hands of the patient.

    Allegations that single room government compliance office chokepoints are almost designed to function as a barrier to any threat to big crony/big donor pharma.

    Meanwhile, opiates kill a couple dozen a week, and the australian medical system is ordered to prescribe nothing but half a panadol for anything except terminal cancer.

    Comrades.

    Marijuana, safer than aspirin and governed like toxic waste.

  128. cohenite

    The issue with the sniper is not his payout but that the confidentiality prevents exposure of the ineptness of the walloper bosses. Bear in mind as soon as the Lindt Café debacle began scipione and burns set up Operation hammerhead to head off the expected backlash against RoP. Also, the conduct of the siege by the wallopers was a disgrace especially the ending where Ms Dawson was killed and several other civilian hostages were wounded and a couple of the idiot wallopers by the use of inappropriate ammunition, FMJ, and the number of walloper shooters.

    The Lindt Café is the justification for 2nd amendment rights in Australia. The wallopers are as useless as head prefect.

  129. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    She may now at least be doing some good with the War Graves Commission.

    She was the WOFTAM who actually told the A.D.F. that a high unit turnover was good for morale. Bollocks on stilts.

  130. twostix

    There’s this kind of retarded conservative boomer who lives vicariously through the lives of army men and police men.

    “I’ll hear nothing bad spoken of my daddy policeman and his 9.21 mm 1999 model sig hause special that I have a perfect plastic replica of on my home office desk!”

    It’s a weird fetish.

  131. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Not bright are you.’

    *Not bright, are you?*

    Apologies twostix. Appreciate being put on the right track. Especially the lying there for hours bit. Most informative.

    Clearly, I need to watch Navy SEALS and S.W.A.T. a couple more times each to see how it’s really done.

    Thanks again

  132. Knuckle Dragger

    cohenite,

    No comment on your second para, but I reckon the first one’s bang on.

    NSW Police: Easily distracted. Could do much better with more application. C-.

  133. Bar Beach Swimmer

    And the principle of non-contradiction, as anyone who has studied logic for five minutes will know, is an essential precondition for not talking gibberish.

    And currently being displayed in the NSW abortion debate where capital punishment has been off the books for decades because, as a State, we believe that it is wrong to kill. Yet with the abortion legislation before the parliament there is the potential to deliberately discard baby In Utero simply for being a female. At the same time, we have in the State prosecution for the manslaughter of an unborn child from a motor vehicle accident because of driver culpability, yet the abortion bill has the potential to kill viable babies because they’re not wanted.

  134. Leo G

    He’ll do as he’s told one way or the other and stfu about it. He got paid that week already. It’s literally his job to sit there and watch ugly stuff through a scope.

    Like those chaps at Maitland Gaol in May 1997.

  135. Old School Conservative

    The sniper’s story.
    He’s a decent copper with a lot of experience and sniper training.
    He has seen many…many junior cops walk out of the Force with a decent payout because of the emotional trauma of having their personal coffee cup hidden during a prank at the office.
    He has just been prevented from saving the life of an innocent Australian and says to himself “No way, no more bullshit”
    But leaving the Force makes his financial situation parlous, so he looks for a way to leave with a golden handshake.
    Everyone on the ground at the Lindt Cafe knows that top management and State politicians stuffed up big time so the sniper goads them into the golden handshake in return for not going public with all the details of the stuff up.
    Gets enough cash to make him and his family comfortable while he looks for other work.

    That’s the script of the storyline I’m pitching to Screen NSW. (Insert your own emoticon here).

  136. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The issue with the sniper is not his payout but that the confidentiality prevents exposure of the ineptness of the walloper bosses. Bear in mind as soon as the Lindt Café debacle began scipione and burns set up Operation hammerhead to head off the expected backlash against RoP.

    That’s my reading of it – the sniper has been medically discharged, and he’se been paid out so the ineptitude of N.S.W. coppers won’t be an issue. It’s still my considered opinion that certain N.S.W. cops wanted to tick the box on their resumes that said “Successfully implemented “contain and negotiate” strategy at the Lindt Cafe, when the other option was handing over to the Hooligans from Holsworthy.”

  137. twostix

    Let me guess knuckles,

    You were an sniper, in the special forces, in vietnam.

    Like every single other boomer army fetishist on planet earth.

    Are you MK50, you sound like him.

  138. Gab

    ‘Women On Boards UK’

    Oh FFS.
    How about someone starts a group called Competent People on Boards!

  139. zyconoclast

    Gender minority college students at increased mental health risk

    Overall, about 78% of gender minority students met the criteria for one or more mental health disorders, as compared with 45% of cisgender students.

    In particular, nearly 60% of gender minority students screened positive for depression, and more than one third reported seriously thinking about suicide in the past year.

    Genderqueer students had a higher prevalence of seven out of the eight mental health measures examined, and transgender students had the highest rate of suicide attempts.

    “Working with this dataset for 10 years now, I’m used to the numbers, and I talk about how the prevalence of mental health problems is increasing,” she said. “What’s surprising is the magnitude of disparities, and the consistency across all the indicators makes you step back and take pause,” Lipson said.

    After adjusting for race, age, socioeconomic status and other factors, the researchers calculated that gender minority status carried a greater than four-fold risk for mental health symptoms compared with cisgender students.

  140. Knuckle Dragger

    Oh dear God.

    I’ve somehow managed to hook another one. That’s two in six days.

    *cough* You’re spot on, twodicks. You’ve rumbled me. Uncovered my ruse. The jig’s up. Last past the post.

    I was indeed a sniper in a special forces unit in Nam. We were special snipers, because due to the jungle we had to be accurate to four feet. My unit, or ‘crew’ was the 666th Special Insurgent Dynamic Lifter Force Assistance Battalion Brigade Regiment, and although I wasn’t the highest ranker there I was regarded by my multicultural and polylingual group of highly talented misfits as its leader.

    I’ve spent the intervening years since 1975 (we stayed behind – don’t believe the news) on solo rescue missions bringing back my men from Chicom POW camps, dead or alive. One time I could only bring back old Fryberg’s clavicle, which I tucked into my sock after killing nine sentries with it.

    I’m also Mk50 and testpattern and iampeter and harken now and None and Rae and feelthebern and Leigh Lowe and twostix. Boy, Sinc’s traffic’s going to be way down now.

    Hang on – I’m not that last one. He’s too much of an ill-informed dork.

  141. zyconoclast

    One sick puppy?

    Man, 43, who [email protected] a golden retriever and had s3x with another ‘dark short-haired canine’ could have his sentencing delayed

    However, when the matter was mentioned in Lismore District Court on Monday, his barrister Jason Watts told the court they were not ready due to the complexity of the case.

    ‘We’re looking for an adjournment to finalise some facts,’ he said.

    ‘It’s a very lengthy and complex matter.’

    The statement of facts, which was still a work in progress, was already 49 pages – far longer than any other similar documents, the Northern Star reported.

    The final version may be far longer.

    The sentencing has been set down for November 1 and is expected to take several hours.

  142. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I was regarded by my multicultural and polylingual group of highly talented misfits as its leader.

    What was your policy on gay, lesbian and transgender snipers?

  143. 132andBush

    John Constantine

    #3141344, posted on August 26, 2019 at 9:26 pm

    On the cryptocurrency representing the cost of the barrel of fresh water.

    As a water converting business i grasp at these things, but content myself with the observation that if man controlling the weather ever does become a possibility, it won’t matter if i am a year or two late getting onboard the scheme, because the economic transformation will result in a profitless boom for food production and an end to independent cocky farmers, as huge capital funds-corporate or socialist- will evolve to apply weather control to huge landholdings.

    The whole thing reads like a Nigerian bank scam.

    I notice their reports (on what they were supposedly doing) are all “post factum”.

    It’s tin foil hat territory at a certain weather blog though.

  144. Knuckle Dragger

    Zulu,

    There weren’t any gay trannie lezzo sierras on any of the A-Team videos I watched, so I don’t know.

  145. Knuckle Dragger

    Oh ripper.

    Federation Square in Melbourne is now heritage listed.

    Bet someone got a king-sized sling for that one.

  146. MatrixTransform

    Federation Square in Melbourne is now heritage listed.

    Wot?
    …no Apple Store then?

  147. egg_

    Federation Square in Melbourne is now heritage listed.

    World’s fugliest architecture?

  148. Beertruk

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #3141461, posted on August 26, 2019 at 10:04 pm

    Maggie Thatcher specifically asked for the SAS to rescue prison guards after the inmates of a Scottish prison had taken them hostage. I think the whole operation took less than five minutes. I have the book that was written by the SAS RSM somewhere, and when I find it Ill let you know the title.

  149. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I have the book that was written by the SAS RSM somewhere, and when I find it Ill let you know the title.

    Peter Radcliffe – “Eye of the Storm?” Went on to contradict the whole story of Patrol “Bravo 20?” in Iraq?

  150. Beertruk

    Peter Radcliffe – “Eye of the Storm?” Went on to contradict the whole story of Patrol “Bravo 20?” in Iraq?

    Shite yair…thats the one. It’s in me bookcase somewhere. I will have tio dig it out and reread it again.

  151. Peter Radcliffe – “Eye of the Storm?” Went on to contradict the whole story of Patrol “Bravo 20?” in Iraq?

    Contradicted it compellingly.

  152. Knuckle Dragger

    Oh.

    Sooo I’ve read Bravo Two Zero, a few years back but didn’t know it had been discredited.

    Load of shit, was it?

  153. jupes

    I think the whole operation took less than five minutes.

    Planning and preparation might have taken a tad longer.

  154. C.L.

    Pretty compelling and disturbing Four Corners episode tonight on the Witness K and Bernard Collaery situation. It was no surprise to learn that Alexander Downer was the man who ordered the half-arsed, stupid bugging operation in Timor. He really thinks he’s Ian Fleming. What does it say about Australian governments’ capacity to negotiate with the big hitters that they needed bugs to get over the top of East Timor – which was, at the time, a ragged skeleton of a nation?

    What’s really strange is the timing. This is now ancient history and all the salient facts are public knowledge anyway. It was interesting to hear one former supreme court justice say that in a democracy governed by the rule of law, trials should not be secret.

  155. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Sooo I’ve read Bravo Two Zero, a few years back but didn’t know it had been discredited.

    Load of shit, was it?

    Umm, when the unit R.S.M. writes a book contradicting the account, when the New Zealand SASR soldier on the patrol writes a book “Soldier Five” contradicting the account, and when a scholar of Arabic, and a former SASR trooper, Micheal Asher, retraces the tracks that the patrol took, and speaks the local languages fluently, yes, load of shit is far too charitable.

  156. Knuckle Dragger

    Bloody hell then.

    Just goes to show. Tell fibs about this stuff, regardless of who you are *ahem ahem* and you’ll be found out.

  157. Beertruk

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #3141579, posted on August 26, 2019 at 11:23 pm

    Curses. Just had a look in the bookcase and cant find the book. Going to hae to get another copy.
    On another note Zulu, do you remember commenting about SLR magazine fillers on the other Fred?

  158. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Some don’t, but I’ve quite enjoyed Dr. BG’s ‘life in Cuba’ tourism adventures. Carries some of the same immediacy as the Venezuela vids put up by Steve Trickler, although quite different in content.

    The description of Maria conveying her illness via unkempt bed hair and a peignoir was fun.

    You can always scroll. But I feel I know a little more about Cuba than I did before these posts.
    And possibly a little more about Dr. BG. I hope he buys her those saucepans I recommended.

  159. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Is Sinc trying for a new demographic?

    What’s happened to the sedate Catallaxy headers of yesteryear?

  160. Delcon

    Can anyone articulate the gist of what Bravo Two Zero got wrong?

  161. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    On another note Zulu, do you remember commenting about SLR magazine fillers on the other Fred?

    Quite vividly, Beery. How can I help?

  162. Can anyone articulate the gist of what Bravo Two Zero got wrong?Short version:
    He made it all up.

  163. Knuckle Dragger

    Sedate Catallaxy headers?

    Lizzie. Neither King Leonidas or the Battle of Thermopylae were anything but sedate.

    Anyway, I’m going to hit the farter, as (evidently) I’m a Boomer and tired, so need my sleep.

    Keeping the diabeeetus at bay.

    Afore the doc takes muh foot.

  164. Beertruk

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #3141587, posted on August 26, 2019 at 11:50 pm

    All good, but while I was looking for ‘Eye of the Storm,’ which seems to be missing in action from my bookcase, I found an old training pam (not Commando or Battle comics) I must have signed out on a sub 1 course but never returned ‘Manual of Land Warfare Part Two Infantry Training Volume 4 Pamphet 5 on th SLR L1A1 and L1A2.’ Chapter 2-27 has a pic: Plate 1-14 Filling a magazine using a magazine filler.’ If I could scan it and post it I would.

  165. Huffington Post being sued by Brett Kavanaugh for defamation.
    Beauty!

  166. Huffington Post being sued by Brett Kavanaugh for defamation.
    Beauty!

    Fantastic!
    Brett Kavanaugh (or rather his treatment) is the inspiration/trigger for my screen name.

  167. Mark A

    Socrates at the Pub
    #3141599, posted on August 27, 2019 at 1:47 am

    Fantastic!
    Brett Kavanaugh (or rather his treatment) is the inspiration/trigger for my screen name.

    How so?

  168. DrBeauGan

    DrBeauGan
    #3140906, posted on August 26, 2019 at 10:16 am
    I got another female come onto me this evening. She wanted to know if I had a girlfriend. I said Si, and showed her a picture of Maria in very short shorts. She gave up on me instantly.

    ..
    Seriously, you let this loser roam free over the open forum giving a blow by blow of his degenerate trip to Cuba, yet I’m still on a six hour delay here?

    I quite understand your jealousy, Arky. If it came to a choice between Jezebel and Maria, most blokes would prefer Maria.

  169. jupes

    After Trump asks a question about nuking hurricanes, so to show what doofus he is, the elites at the ABC come up with this response:

    “Perhaps the best solution is not to try to alter or destroy the tropical cyclones, but just learn to co-exist better with them,” a factsheet says.

    Sure. But that being the case, what about this:

    “Perhaps the best solution is not to try to alter or destroy global warming, but just learn to co-exist better with it.”

    Somehow I just can’t see the ABC making that point.

  170. jupes

    Oh dear. Trump didn’t even ask the question:

    Donald J. Trump

    @realDonaldTrump
    The story by Axios that President Trump wanted to blow up large hurricanes with nuclear weapons prior to reaching shore is ridiculous. I never said this. Just more FAKE NEWS!

  171. DrBeauGan

    I thought the talk rather shallow, Mitch. I’d be interested in getting information about the alternative assumptions of current secularism, which seem to be mostly leftist-cultural Marxism. He is right that there has been no increase in rationality. Quite the opposite. There are signs of mass hysteria which we haven’t seen since the middle ages. Worship of the state correlates with modernism.

    I’m not sure we are seeing a fall in religion, I suspect it’s just a different religion, and not a nice one that is taking over.

  172. 2dogs

    Regarding the topic of the Stiglich and Kelley cartoons, we should start using the term “social justice involved persons” to describe Antifa.

  173. Mitch M.

    I thought the talk rather shallow, Mitch. I’d be interested in getting information about the alternative assumptions of current secularism, which seem to be mostly leftist-cultural Marxism. He is right that there has been no increase in rationality. Quite the opposite. There are signs of mass hysteria which we haven’t seen since the middle ages. Worship of the state correlates with modernism.

    I’m not sure we are seeing a fall in religion, I suspect it’s just a different religion, and not a nice one that is taking over.

    He’s only dealing with demographic realities. Secularism is possibly more pluralistic than religious culture so I’m disinclined to consider it as some monolithic entity. Religion in the traditional sense is clearly on a longstanding decline. Not sure what you mean by modern religion(ie. secularism) because that makes the terms too confusing. Religion in the traditional sense nearly always posits God\s, a belief in the after life, and moral prescriptions. From a cultural evolution perspective I’m not surprised that during this transition phase many strange secularist divisions and tropes arise. “You can take away a man’s gods but only to give him others in return.” (Jung) So both the secular Right and Left are looking for new ways to think about being human. It aint gonna happen quickly. The Left has PC and the Right has economics. Both are very narrow ways to think about our place in the world.

  174. jupes

    Religion in the traditional sense nearly always posits God\s, a belief in the after life, and moral prescriptions.

    The climate cult has two of those for man human kind. Belief in Gaia and moral prescriptions. Only Gaia gets to enjoy the after life. It also has indulgences, calls for sacrifice (for those who can’t afford the indulgences), high priests (Gore / Flannery) and saints (Greta).

  175. DrBeauGan

    Religion in the traditional sense nearly always posits God\s, a belief in the after life, and moral prescriptions.

    Buddhism doesn’t posit a god or god’s, and as Jupes points out, gaia qualifies for the great agw scam. I think you are confusing religion with Christianity. Only heroes got an afterlife in the Norse religion, nobody but demigods for the Greeks. It was cycle after cycle of rebirth for the Hindus until you escaped into nothingness.

    I think you are being too narrow in your definition of religion. I’d suggest that it should include any irrational (non-evidential) belief which gives purpose and meaning to the believer.

  176. 2dogs

    Only heroes got an afterlife in the Norse religion

    Not true. A complicated picture as the Norse religion provides that people have 4 or 5 souls relating to different aspects of their character. One of them became the notion of the “guardian angel” as Christianity accepted pagan rituals during conversion. Also, only some of those fallen in battle go to Valhalla. Others go to Folkvang, but death in battle is mot a requirement for Folkvang.

  177. 2dogs

    Buddhism doesn’t posit a god or god’s

    Depends on the particular version of Bhuddism. As is common in the Dharmic religions, there is a view that even gods are mortal and participate in the cycle of reincarnation.

  178. 2dogs

    nobody but demigods for the Greeks

    While demigods might go to Olympia, there was still an afterlife for everyone else – who went to Hades or Elysium.

  179. classical_hero

    John C, speaking of fentanyl, just wow.

    https://m.excelsior.com.mx/nacional/marina-armada-de-mexico-aseguro-importante-carga-de-fentanilo/1332243

    They found about 23,00 kgs of stuff shipped from China to Mexico. That’s almost enough to kill everyone on the planet.

  180. DrBeauGan

    I’ve just got back from shopping. I bought yucca which tastes better than it sounds when Maria cooks it for me. A lot like potato. What it will be like when I cook it remains to be seen. It is a root vegetable and looks like it will need a LOT of cooking. I also bought some filet steak, at least I think so. And a bottle of red wine called viña rustica which cost 11 cuc, which is expensive by local supermarket standards. I may need to drink the wine while boiling the yucca.

  181. Herodotus

    It’s The Media Versus Democracy!
    The Washington Post and the NYT seem to have a contest running: who can be the most outrageously loony leftists.
    One of WaPo’s scribes has said that the Republican party has to be “burned down” and Trump supporters liquidated.
    Coming hard on the heels of the Amazing Amazon Firestorm Fakery, this again illustrates just how bad the media has become. While pushing for years the fake stories about Russian interference in the 2016 election they have continuously misled the public, many of whom don’t do fact checking. The daily dribble of false claims about climate change has already done the deed in repeating a lie often enough that it becomes accepted truth.
    The western world will not have properly functioning democracies while media perfidy remains at such a high pitch.

  182. Farmer Gez

    ABC rural radio.
    An expert on Black Sea sourced grain discussing what happens when the drought breaks and Australian values go back to general world prices.

    We have higher labour costs, higher fuel prices, higher electricity costs, higher fertiliser prices, higher transport and storage charges, just to give a short list.

    Taxing, feather bedding and regulating ourselves to oblivion.

  183. Knuckle Dragger

    Folkvang.

    Folkvang.

    I had something for this……..

    Waitaminute….

  184. stackja

    Herald Sun

    SHAKE-UP FOR POLICE

    TOM MINEAR

    SEXUAL harassment is still rampant across Victoria Police and angry victims say senior cops tasked with championing gender equality are instead “part of the problem”.

    One in four women have been sexually harassed at police stations across the state in the past three years, with many subjected to sexually suggestive comments, leering, unwelcome physical contact and inappropriate questions about their private lives.

    But half of the force doubts senior leaders are taking the problem seriously, according to a bombshell report from the Victorian Equal Opportunity and Human Rights Commission.

    The force has agreed to the report’s far-reaching strategies to promote women, which include giving recruits more time to meet physical standards and offering lactation breaks.

    Shake-up to address harassment

    Five years since ex-top cop Ken Lay asked the commission to investigate Victoria Police’s culture, its third and final report has found the force has failed to bring in a victim-centric disciplinary system for perpetrators despite the “compelling and urgent need”.

    Just 10 per cent of victims reported their harassment, and almost all of those were unhappy with the results, saying they had been ostracised, bullied and joked about by colleagues and managers.

    One woman said details of her private life were shared to discredit her.

    While the commission says there is an “emerging story of positive change” within Victoria Police, its report also reveals: SIX recruits were forced to leave the Victoria Police Academy after behaving inappropriately towards women.

    SEX discrimination was experienced by 17 per cent of staff, including pregnant women told to forget about promotions or being moved to jobs below their experience.

    THE gender pay gap has narrowed but women are on average still paid about $8000 less than men.

    ONLY 30 per cent of police recruits were women last year

    — after the force met its 50-50 target in 2015.

    NEW women in policing committees — mentoring about 300 staff — experienced a “backlash” and were dubbed “women’s gossip” groups.

    The commission has led an interim “restorative justice” scheme for harassment victims that has paid compensation to 14 people and delivered statements of regret to another 11.

    VEOHRC commissioner Kristen Hilton said Victoria Police had been through a “painful reckoning” and that change would take years.

    Chief Commissioner Graham Ashton said widespread changes had been made to better protect employees and provide a safe, inclusive, respectful workplace.

    [email protected]

  185. Farmer Gez

    Off to the shearing shed.
    Wool, sheep shit and plenty of bullshit as well.

  186. Overburdened

    The Courier Mail continues the tradition of running stale news by asking if Byron Bay has lost its soul.

    Of course the answer is yes.

    Over 30 years ago.

  187. DrBeauGan

    I’m drinking the viña rustica while the yucca is boiling. I shall poke it with a knife every fifteen minutes. I am estimating an hour. The meat I shall fry. I have also bought some Maggi cream of asparagus soup in a packet. I’ve heard about these things. Nothing good.

  188. Knuckle Dragger

    Hahaaaa. Clumsy yet on the mark.

    Porline Ansen.

    Apropos of Ayers Rock, she speaks to a group of youngish Aboriginal ladeeees at some function or other, outside, under a marquee. Said laydeees are traditionally clad in indig diversity gear.

    She says to the group, ‘I’m indigenous. I was born here. If I was born here, where’s my land? England?’

    Abladies look at each other, then around the place, in the air, on the ground. Sudden forearm scratching occurs. No ‘old people’ arrive to screech about astronomy or birthing trees.

    ‘Cut’, says the Sky news producer. On to the weather.

  189. Bruce of Newcastle

    David Rowe. FMD. He’s quite ill.

    Maybe this article will make Rowe’s head explode and let some of the crazy out.

    Varney: Trump ‘dominated’ the G-7 summit ‘like no other president has done in years’

    “No matter what you read and hear from the media, this G-7 was all about Trump re-aligning the world — reshaping the world economy with America’s interests first and foremost,” said Varney on Fox Nation’s “My Take.”

    Varney believes that it is time for America’s European allies to get on board with the President’s agenda. “Europeans are frankly scared of America. Their economies are sinking. They’ve entered the fantasy land of negative interest rates. Their money is pouring over here, and they just don’t know what to do. My advice — jump on the Trump train and quit whining about Iran and climate change,” advised Varney.

    Get on the Trump train Mr Rowe. You know you want to.

  190. egg_

    Religion in the traditional sense is clearly on a longstanding decline.

    If Religion isn’t a gene, it’s certainly a meme amongst humans and the climate cult (neo-Paganism) is the latest global iteration.
    Comrade.

  191. stackja

    Daily Telegraph

    New capital won’t have that sinking feeling
    JAKARTA: Indonesia’s president has revealed the country’s capital will move from overcrowded, sinking and polluted Jakarta to a site in sparsely populated East Kalimantan province on Borneo island, known for rainforests and orangutans.

    President Joko Widodo said several studies over the past three years had resulted in the choice of the location on the eastern side of Borneo island.

    Mr Widodo said the new capital city, which has not yet been named, will be in the middle of the vast archipelago nation and already has relatively complete infrastructure because it is near the cities of Balikpapan and Samarinda.

    He said the burden had become too heavy on Jakarta as the centre of government, finance, business, trade and services as well as the location of the country’s largest airport and seaport.

    Mr Widodo said the decision was made not to move the capital elsewhere on Java Island because the country’s wealth and people are highly concentrated there and it should be spread out.

    Currently 54 per cent of the country’s 270 million people live on Java, it’s most densely populated area. Jakarta is prone to earthquakes and flooding and is rapidly sinking due to uncontrolled extraction of groundwater.

  192. egg_

    ‘I’m indigenous. I was born here. If I was born here, where’s my land? England?’

    And I want to climb The Rock.
    Comrade.

  193. egg_

    Taxing, feather bedding and regulating ourselves to oblivion.

    Their Service Economy, Comrade.

  194. Mater

    ONLY 30 per cent of police recruits were women last year

    In this day and age, it’s only fair to ask; what are they now?

  195. egg_

    One of WaPo’s scribes has said that the Republican party has to be “burned down” and Trump supporters liquidated.

    Now say same about Ardern.

  196. Knuckle Dragger

    stack, 6.28 a.m.;

    Oh dear. Poor little flowers still being victimised by those horrible blokes.

    Good friend of mine remembers the cop chicky who would turn up in the morning and regularly greet people with ‘It’s a great day for sucking cock.’

    And the ones who would take on their male counterparts two at a time in interview rooms on winter nightshifts.

    And the ones who would go around grabbing blokes on the nuts, then deliver a one-to-five star rating on the package on muster room whiteboards.

    And the little groups who had competitions on who could bang the most married colleagues.

    And the ones who openly offered ‘favours’ to the detectives in order to gain a temporary spot in their office for three months or so.

    And they’re just the ones at stations he worked in.

    But still, victims. And paid time off for ‘stress’, making a mockery of punters that actually need it.

    And cash. Potential cash. The same the world over.

  197. DrBeauGan

    The viña rustica tastes quite a lot like red wine.

    I am not sure what to do with the Maggi soup. Do you add water to something like frozen breadcrumbs that mysteriously turns into something that at least smells like asparagus? Or is the contents of the packet liquid? There are instructions in Spanish and German on the packet, neither of which are helpful.

  198. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Tom, the toon by Blower of Trump and Boris knocking out Macron’s little world at Biarritz did it for me this morning. Brings two memories to front of mind. When we were in Hawaii at the end of June Hairy arrives back to our hotel after a walk with a present for me: a figurine of Trump in his swim trunks, clutching his surfboard ready to surf the globe. I have it on my bookshelf now. A few years ago we stayed in a resort overlooking a surf beach near Biarritz (I wrote it up here in one o’ muh travel tales), so there really is surf around there too. It surprised me how much surfing culture we encountered driving down that coast. Macron as a juvenile in a sandpit was good as well, although I do need to take care not to scoff too much at a younger man who prefers an older lover.

    Macron making that preference about a woman older than ten years goes beyond the limit Hairy and I set (9.5 years), and I was certainly never his teacher at school! And we look as though and sound as if we are of the same generation, with me often said to be looking younger than he is, in my fifties rather than my sixties, for no-one guesses seventies. That said, to each their own when it comes to romantic attachments although it is wise to make them outside of school and somewhat later in life than the teen years. Even in adulthood, sometimes love just happens, and not necessarily to order. Hairy is certainly no juvenile looking for a mama. Our marriage of minds and bodies will soon be in its fortieth year to heaven. 🙂

  199. Snoopy

    There are instructions in Spanish and German on the packet, neither of which are helpful.

    Word Hippo is your friend.

  200. egg_

    Man injured in ‘running of the balls’ festival in Spain.

    ABC Breakfast.

  201. calli

    DrBeau, if the “soup” is powder, just add water. Boil about 500ml, pour in and stir and taste. Dilute if necessary. If it’s a “cream of” soup, you might want to reduce the amount of water and make up the rest with milk.

    Let it stand a while to reconstitute and freeze dried veggies. You don’t want to break a tooth on rubble.

  202. egg_

    Man injured in ‘running of the ba lls’ festival in Spain.

    ABC Breakfast.

  203. calli

    I love the photo of “the kiss”.

    He needs to be warned though. She’ll remain an amphibian.

  204. egg_

    Stir into boiling water, add pre-cooked roadkill chook and simmer.

  205. calli

    the freeze dried veggies

    Coffee hasn’t kicked in.

  206. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Religion in the traditional sense nearly always posits God\s, a belief in the after life, and moral prescriptions.
    The climate cult has two of those for man human kind. Belief in Gaia and moral prescriptions. Only Gaia gets to enjoy the after life. It also has indulgences, calls for sacrifice (for those who can’t afford the indulgences), high priests (Gore / Flannery) and saints (Greta).

    Nicely put, Jupes.

    The climate cult posits an ‘after life’ that you can work to obtain by your own ‘good works’. It is found in the sense that your grandchildren will not survive unless you believe. Your fundamental biological stake in continuance of your lifeform, your grandchildren, aka your emotional hold on immortality, is severely threatened without adherence to the cult. In that sense, they do have a sort of after-life belief. Also, your reward for being on the planet and in this cult is the continuing ‘life’ of the planet as an actual living thing, Gaia, an abstract ‘entity’ to which you implicitly ‘belong’ simply for existing. This is a form of deistic thinking, Gaia is a goddess in a metaphor that slides into deism. Gaia is sometimes explicitly stated to be a reality; Gaia the goddess actually exists as a goddess of the earth, knowing, numinous and able to be ‘known’ by proper ritual practice.

  207. calli

    Something curious.

    Seven is spruiking the National Day of Action, run by police on the spike in the road toll. So I looked at that compelling* font of information – Wiki.

    The % per 100,000 spiked in 1970. Makes sense. Rubbish roads, no seatbelts, crumple zones and other technologies. The next graph is the interesting one – since 2015 it has steadily risen.

    What has changed?

    * word of the week

  208. egg_

    Does Emmanuel Macron take his mummy with him everywhere he goes?

  209. calli

    Saw what you did there, egg_.

    😁

  210. egg_

    The next graph is the interesting one – since 2015 it has steadily risen.

    Third world first generation drivers?
    IIRC many fatalities are single vehicle accidents on country roads (fatigue).
    Prolly what killed the young Pakis? near Canberra recently at 3am.
    /Bulletproof

  211. egg_

    Macron rebukes Bolsonaro for ‘extraordinarily rude’ comments about wife

    Jair Bolsonaro’s Facebook message mocking Brigitte Macron’s looks escalates diplomatic clash

    /Ardern the fvck up

  212. DrBeauGan

    The soup was a powder and tasted of powder and salt. There were three little green fragments of vegetation which might have once had an association with asparagus. It was every bit as bad as I feared. No more Maggi soup ever again.

    The yucca took only half an hour to get soft enough to cut. I am frying the steak slowly and some yucca with it. I still have lots of steak left. I must have got close on a kilogram for about three dollars equivalent.

  213. feelthebern

    Why hasn’t Macron’s mother-wife been arrested for historical sex offences?
    He was 15 at the time.

  214. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Ah, Calli. You stole my thunder there with the soup. I was about to offer the same advice, for I am something of an expert on the cup-a-soup cookery. I am also a dab hand at the ring-pull tin-of-soup openery sort. (This recipe is slightly more complicated when you have to use an actual tin opener, as technological knowledge is required there). Once opened, the trick with the tin-of-soup is to add about half the same amount of water or milk (even if they say it is OK to go as it is) and put in some extra butter fried onion, mushrooms, chopped ham, left-over sweet corn or anything else handy. You can do this to the cup variant also but don’t further dilute in that case. Hint: take care in this variant that the cup doesn’t overflow when the extras are added, or it gets messy.

    Make toast. Set toaster on 3 medium. Butter when toast is slightly cooled.
    Tip soup into striped containers for extra festivity.
    Soup spoons are only necessary for the tin-o-soup variant of this recipe.
    A teaspoon may assist with the ‘rubble’ in the cup-o-soup mode.
    Offer paper serviettes, although a leaf of kitchen paper for each diner does well too.

    Voila, messieurs et mesdames. Lunch is served.

  215. Mater

    What has changed?

    Calli,
    The ‘Fatalities’ graph doesn’t gel at all with the tabulated data just above it.
    Seems incorrect. Around the 70’s, the table says that total fatalities was nearing 4000. The graph never gets anywhere near that.
    The table actually indicates that total fatalities are ‘steady to decreasing’, despite a growing population.
    I’d put it down to a bad graph.

  216. feelthebern

    Bolsonaro is a crook.
    But all this amazon shite is like there has never been a fire there.
    Seriously.

  217. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Oh, forgot. Condiments for the repast may include Tabasco Sauce (always a winner, shake a few drops only, never pour or you will regret it), plus ground sea salt and peppercorns. Avoid the addition of capers and olives as they tend to mask the delicate flavours of the meal.

  218. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Also, for the inexpert in this complicated cookery, remember to never boil the soup if you have added milk. That will ‘curdle’ the milk in the saucepan and reduce your reputation for providing fine cuisine.

  219. Gab

    DRBG yucca usually takes about 15 minutes to cook. I hope you peeled it first!

  220. calli

    I’m useless with graphs and statistics, so thanks Mater.

    It may mean that the Day of Action is based on a crock. Amazing.

    Now for something beautiful to start the day, found in an unlikely location – the Merkel thread.

    Enjoy

  221. Mother Lode

    SEXUAL harassment is still rampant across Victoria Police and angry victims say senior cops tasked with championing gender equality are instead “part of the problem”.

    Surely the solution in Victoria is to disband the police outright.

    Sounds like they do nothing but collect fines and cook up law cases but do it in ways that the elites deplore as not being social jusctice-y enough.

    The revenue raising role could be managed by simply automatically sending out fines in the post – it is not as if the speed cameras are actually positioned to capture bad behaviours. They are there to get the most money. The obvious end stage is to get as much money from as many people as possible, so use that as the basis of fines.

    There could also be a ‘tip-line’ where people can call in accusing people they don’t like of all manner of horrible things and more fines could be sent on the basis of an uncorroborated claim. There is a precedent now.

    Much else could be subsumed by volunteer organisations – those people who have most free time will obviously contribute most – that would be the unemployed, trade union officials, Labor party cattle, and public servants (liaising with GetUp!).

    Makes sense to me.

  222. stackja

    Knuckle Dragger
    #3141655, posted on August 27, 2019 at 7:02 am

    Victoria Police sets female focus in bid to raise number of women in its ranks

    Victoria Police has reacted to a damning report revealing gender inequality in the force by promising to stamp out its “hypermasculine” culture and attract more women to the job.
    Susie O’Brien, Herald Sun
    Subscriber only

    44 minutes ago

    Victoria Police will give recruits who don’t meet its stringent physical standards more time to get fit as part of a bid to raise the number of women in its ranks.

    The force will also pursue targeted career development for women only and hire and promote officers on the basis of their empathy, ethics and ­interpersonal skills.

    Chief Commissioner Graham Ashton has committed to achieving equal numbers of men and women in Victoria Police by 2030 and rid the force of its “hypermasculine” culture.

    Victoria Police has also committed to only hiring, promoting and retaining leaders who “demonstrate a commitment to gender equity”.

    Equal Opportunity Commissioner Kristen Hilton said the commitments reflected a move away from “the idea that a policeman should be a tough full-time male”.

    “Gender should not be an obstacle,” she said.

    ….

    Acting Victoria Police ­Assistant Commissioner Lisa Hardeman said the physical standards and requirements of a recruit were not changing.

    “However, we will be looking at how we can better acknowledge and increase focus on other skills that applicants can offer including empathy, ethical decision-making, communication and interpersonal skills,” she said.

    Having an organisation that “understands women’s experiences and how power can be abused makes police better placed to respond to gendered violence and abuse”, she said.

    [email protected]

  223. Bruce of Newcastle

    Macron rebukes Bolsonaro for ‘extraordinarily rude’ comments about wife

    Sounds like payback for Macron’s Amazonian posturing. Do keep on guys, but let me go get some more popcorn first.

  224. struth

    Good Moaning.
    Egg has cracked it.

    Tandoori truckies, ethno drivers, cultural car crashes, whatever you want to call it the driving standard in Australia has rapidly gone down hill.
    The Police are having a “crackdown” which shows us again, that government imports, starts and makes up problems to increase government to fix them.
    From the drivers now killing themselves and others, to government imported terrorism, to the equalidy and the noise of screaming banshees, to totally fabricated problems that need to be funded to achieve (by our taxes) such as Glowball warmening and indigenous health, (caused by excessive welfare and intervention in our fellow Australian’s lives based on race, (by government now pretending to fix what they started)) they will cause any sort of death and Misery to expand government.

    In this Road death toll case, the police may be outwardly “tut tutting” but to see that they love it, is to see clearly.

  225. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    A word of comfort: even if your soup has curdled you still don’t have to toss it out. Offer it to your dining companion/s nevertheless but suggest the watching of television during the meal as a distraction. Absent the TV, bright conversation on a stimulating topic du jour may also assist to turn attention away from this small fault in your management of kitchen matters, and extra consideration by others may be given if you are learning the awkward ways of a new stop top that works by magnetic resonance into your cooking utensils rather than by the normal sort of heat that has satisfied mankind’s move from the Raw to the Cooked (h/t Claude Levi Strauss) since the dawn of time.

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