Open Forum: August 31, 2019

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  1. johanna

    Left with a choice between a worthy podcast by James Delingpole, and Tangerine Dream’s Rubycon,well, I’m awash in electronica.

    The Chermans are very annoying, always trying to take over the world, but magnificent in art and science.

    Kraftwerk. OMG. Brilliant.

    That’s why it is really important that Trump sticks up for America and tells them to get stuffed.

    We’ve been down that road before. In the late C19th and a good part of the early C20th, Germany was a powerhouse of culture and science. No question.

    That said, if they keep watering down their population with illiterate goat herders, perhaps Europe can finally relax.

  2. classical_hero

    This is the best national anthem. If you disagree then off to the re-education camp you go.

    https://youtu.be/U06jlgpMtQs

  3. Mark A

    classical_hero
    #3145612, posted on September 2, 2019 at 3:32 am

    This is the best national anthem. If you disagree then off to the re-education camp you go.

    Not bad as anthems go.
    You would not want to listen to the full version of the Greek anthem though unless insomniac.
    (about a couple hours worth of 148 stanzas) Usually the first 2 played.

  4. DrBeauGan

    Is that 200 tons when weighed on earth or the moon?

    It will almost certainly be mass, not weight. They are numerically the same at one gravity.

  5. Tom

    Eric Lobbecke ‘toon goes with Paywallian Media Diary column about Peanut Head’s hubris before the May election.

  6. Tom

    Surprise, surprise. David Rowe is an open borders loon.

  7. Tom

    Michael Ramirez on the latest fake news from the American fucktard media industrial complex.

  8. DrBeauGan

    Thanks, Tom. Garrison points at a very worrying issue. It’s as if once you pass a certain status level, justice can’t touch you. Same with Julia gillard in Oz.

  9. Tintarella di Luna

    That’s right Dr Beaugan – it’s all about keeping the proles from losing complete trust in the institutions of government – there’s a problem in Victoria though a WIP

  10. Tom

    Beaugy, I think the US A-G William Barr is playing the long game. At this stage, it does look like catch and release. I don’t think that’s the endgame. Slimey creeps like Comey are for the high jump in the next year, IMO.

  11. bespoke

    I just cant fathom why China isn’t content to rich.

  12. Mark A

    bespoke
    #3145632, posted on September 2, 2019 at 5:30 am

    I just cant fathom why China isn’t content to rich.

    You don’t have the mindset of a politician let alone a tyrant ideolog.
    Enriching the population is far from their minds, but if it helps temporarily or even in the long run, they will use it as a means of control.

    A contented populace is a lazy, sleepy easily maneuvered populace.
    But, when it comes to a choice of losing control or keeping them happy, there is no question what’s important. Total control.
    For normal people it’s hard to understand, this overwhelming desire to control, but it’s more prevalent than you think.
    It’s just that most of these would be tyrants never get a chance. Observe the traffic cops, or security guards.
    Council officers etc.

  13. Win

    Tom thank you for your daily dose of humour and I think you are right re AG Barr. President Trump response “Got lucky “seems to be an understatement .

  14. calli

    Just so it doesn’t get lost on the late evening thread. From Louis

    national/top-judge-worried-forensic-evidence-putting-innocent-people-behind-bars-20190823-p52k3l.html

    A senior judge believes innocent people may have been jailed because too much faith has been placed in forensic techniques that have been proved to be flawed.

    Justice Chris Maxwell, President of the Victorian Court of Appeal, said there was little proof that forensic techniques including gunshot analysis, footprint analysis, hair comparison and bite mark comparison could reliably identify criminals.

    He called on governments around Australia to urgently change the law, so that judges had to consider the reliability of forensic evidence before it was shown to juries.

    This from a judge who “imagines” testimony to be true. Without any evidence at all.

    And imprisons accordingly.

  15. classical_hero

    What is the significance of the way Nobody’s Girl is wearing?

  16. Leigh Lowe

    Justice Chris Maxwell, President of the Victorian Court of Appeal, said there was little proof that forensic techniques including gunshot analysis, footprint analysis, hair comparison and bite mark comparison could reliably identify criminals.

    He called on governments around Australia to urgently change the law, so that judges had to consider the reliability of forensic evidence before it was shown to juries.

    This from a judge who “imagines” testimony to be true. Without any evidence at all.

    Judges and lawyers hate certainty.
    It removes “wriggle room” discretion from judges, and a source of fees from defence lawyers.
    Combine the two.
    If you have rock-solid forensic evidence against you coupled with mandatory sentencing, a judge can’t get you off, even if you belong to a worthy victim cohort, and no-one is paying a lawyer to run a convoluted six week trial at $5 grand a day when the conviction and sentence are certain.

  17. notafan

    Asterix and Tin Tin are also favourites of mine.

  18. Bruce of Newcastle

    Someone send Rowe this article.

    Sri Lankan boat surge: sixth asylum bid halted (Oz paywalled)

    Australian Border Force officials are facing a surge of people-smuggling activity from Sri Lanka, with six boats ­intercepted since May.

    How amazingly amazing that the touts are signing up the suckers in Sri Lanka. I bet they have in their ad brochures all the press clippings of the loving coverage of Tamil holidaymaker guy.

  19. notafan

    The Fossils weren’t brought up by a kindly old man, he disappeared for almost the entire book leaving his niece and nanny to raise the girls. Classic genteel occupation of taking in boarders to make ends meet.

  20. 1735099

    Joyce refusing (again) to be PC –

    Barnaby Joyce says Tamil family are good people and Biloela wants them to stay

  21. 1735099

    This morning, in our local rag –

    Toowoomba unites for Tamil family facing deportation

  22. notafan

    Tamil family are lying liars who lied.

    Fake Tamil tigers.

    I bet immigrant never heard THAT story before.

    Being ‘nice’ doesn’t cut it.

  23. 1735099

    Try telling these people how wonderful mining is for regional Queenslanders –

    Construction had been booming to meet the demands of the region’s mines, but when commodity prices fell, tens of thousands of people lost their jobs.

  24. notafan

    And the ABC just put the boots in by revealing they lied on their applications.

    Which their advocates must have known if the read the case transcripts.

    The worm turns.

  25. Bruce of Newcastle

    Barnaby Joyce says Tamil family are good people

    I know of half a dozen or more good Tamil speaking churches in Sri Lanka and Tamil Nadu that they can attend. Whilst there they can apply for migration at the Australian Embassy through legal channels.

  26. notafan

    Assets prices must always rise!

    It’s a special rule for special people!

  27. notafan

    Someone I know wants to buy a cheap investment property in Townsville.

    Defence presence makes it quite attractive.
    I sent them the link.

  28. calli

    Sri Lanka is a hell hole holiday hotspot.

  29. Top Ender

    From Jupes’ ABC Link:

    Yesterday, rallies were held in capital cities across the country in protest of the family’s treatment.

    Despite the distressing nature of the images, Mr Jeans said excessive media coverage and activism was harming the family’s case by forcing the Immigration Minister, David Coleman, into a corner.

    “If the Minister grants a visa to the family it just encourages more people to make media campaigns and it might be unfair for other people who may not be able to make as much noise in the community,” Mr Jeans said.

    “This is the most significant mistake and this is not a mistake of the family.”

  30. Knuckle Dragger

    Of course the poor punters in Biloela and Toowoomba are going to say ‘Hang, on, they’re nice.’

    Because, in yet another Captain Obvious moment, the family knew they were there to take advantage of Australia’s generosity, knew from their multiple appeals through the court process that we paid for that they were going to be given the boot at some point, and played on themselves being nice.

    Great incentive – all you have to do is wave and smile at people, and you get them onside when the nasty gummint boots them back to what the family no doubt told them would be a certain fate of being flayed alive, followed by disembowelment via shovel.

  31. notafan

    I thought they were Hindu BoN?

    The High Court said no. I doubt the immigration Minister has any sympathy for a family of liars that has cost this country hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal expenses.

  32. notafan

    Aren’t most people ‘nice’?

    What job was he doing in bilo?

    Parking inspector?

  33. Cassie of Sydney

    “Justice Chris Maxwell, President of the Victorian Court of Appeal, said there was little proof that forensic techniques including gunshot analysis, footprint analysis, hair comparison and bite mark comparison could reliably identify criminals.

    He called on governments around Australia to urgently change the law, so that judges had to consider the reliability of forensic evidence before it was shown to juries.

    This from a judge who “imagines” testimony to be true. Without any evidence at all.”

    Yep…because when the “imagining” fits with your world view and narrative…who needs such far-right, white supremacist, patriarchal and scientific concepts and tools such as “evidence”. That’s what evil white men invented and use….must stop that.

    Lucky Victoria…and this is just the beginning….oh well…Victorians have voted for this at almost every state election for twenty years…..I have zero sympathy for them except for one Victorian…an innocent man currently languishing in a prison cell…..George Pell.

  34. calli

    Despite the distressing nature of the images,

    What images?

  35. notafan

    According to the Tamil refugee council Sri Lanka isn’t safe for a single Tamil, oh dear those exaggerations don’t help.

    slaughterman

  36. Cassie of Sydney

    “Bruce of Newcastle
    #3145650, posted on September 2, 2019 at 6:51 am
    Barnaby Joyce says Tamil family are good people

    I know of half a dozen or more good Tamil speaking churches in Sri Lanka and Tamil Nadu that they can attend. Whilst there they can apply for migration at the Australian Embassy through legal channels.”

    That’s right…and then perhaps the Toowoomba turd can sponsor them.

  37. notafan

    Shouldn’t be allowed to reapply unless they reimburse the Australian taxpayer for all the legal expenses and the cost of keeping them in detention.

    I believe Mr Howard used to send them home with such a bill.

    get deported, time to reapply? perhaps never.

  38. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Judges and lawyers hate certainty.
    It removes “wriggle room” discretion from judges, and a source of fees from defence lawyers.’

    This is true.

    If someone has shot someone else, particularly with a handgun and you check two people, and one has traces of lead, barium and antimony in the right spots on one hand and the other doesn’t, or has them in the wrong spots (thereby indicating that person has handled but not fired it) then it is incontrovertible. There’s your man.

    DNA is great, but it is very easily transferable unless you find it inside somebody. DNA also doesn’t explicitly say ‘This is your man’ – it says ‘this is more likely to be your man than 600,000 Caucasian males’ or similar.

    Despite the mystery shows saying otherwise, you cannot effectively transfer a fingerprint without it showing. Any competent detective would rather have a single print than a shitload of DNA.

    And yep – rock solid evidence (as opposed to feelz) = lack of opportunity for mouthpieces to argue ever-increasingly implausible scenarios = lack of articles in trade journals + less cash for silks.

  39. Bruce of Newcastle

    I was interested by this article yesterday.

    Another Swedish Municipality That Took In Migrants Faces Economic Crisis

    The Swedish municipality of Hässleholm, which took in nearly 3,000 asylum seekers in three years, faces an economic crisis as up to 80 per cent remain on welfare.

    The crisis comes only weeks after the municipality of Bengtsfors petitioned the national government for money, claiming they had taken in far more migrants than the local government could now afford and were facing potential bankruptcy.

    Stig Bertilsson, a local Moderate Party politician in Bengtsfors was asked if migrants could help ease the burden by getting jobs and paying income taxes, but he admitted that while he hoped for a long term boost in tax revenue, it had so far not arrived.

    And another one today.

    Sweden: Municipality Inundated with Migrants Faces Tax Crisis as Native Swedes Flee

    The municipality of Filipstad took in many asylum seekers during the migrant crisis of 2015 and now are facing increasing costs as unemployment among migrants has surged and financial assistance rates have tripled, broadcaster SVT reports.

    Claes Hultgren, the local municipal manager, described the situation, saying of the migrant population: “In this group, unemployment and dependency are very high, while education levels are very low. This group runs the risk of ending in an eternal alienation that is already heavily burdening the municipal economy.”

    Adding to the burden has been the exodus of native Swedes, with hundreds of natives leaving between 2012 and 2018 and an even higher number of foreigners arriving during the same period. Statistics show the vast majority of natives who left were of working age.

    I think this is burning down your own village to save someone else’s village, to adapt a famous phrase from a certain war.

  40. Knuckle Dragger

    The real-life cop websites are good reading, btw.

  41. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Parking inspector?’

    Haha.

    I knew there was a sense of humour in there somewhere.

  42. Cassie of Sydney

    I know Steve posted this up thread….but it is worth posting again…people should watch this because it just shows the absolute squalid depravity of the young and very middle class “socialist” Antifa scum who are walking our streets….it clearly shows their absolute putrid ignorance of history and reality…..the “male” middle class university student fuckwit calls Avi a “Fascist Zionist”…….if you didn’t laugh…you would cry….but actually I find it deeply disturbing. Avi is doing great work.

  43. Overburdened

    I saw a map some years ago put up to remind the detained illegal immigrants of their homeland.
    The map was centred on the Andaman Sea and surrounding Countries.
    Although inclusive of many countries, it was not big enough to include the eastern portion of Indonesia let alone Australia.

    Point of interest- Tamil Nadu (Home of the Tamils) is a couple of Kms from Jaffna at low tide.

  44. Knuckle Dragger

    OMG. OMFG.

    I scrolled past the clip the first time. Read it on Cassie’s recommendation this morning. That’s some funny shit right there.

    Highlights: The skinny young bloke with the Gangajang tribute hairstyle, the fat communist chick telling the crew to leave and her inability to explain why socialists were at a HK demonstration, and the magnificent young bloke draped in the flag. Yes, he had a ponytail, but it’s Melbourne so what the hell.

  45. Rockdoctor

    Nota. Big bump atm from supply shortage after the floods. When the repairs are done it will settle a bit. Would avoid Idalia & Oonoomba one of the low lying areas worst hit. Be wary of Burdell built on a flood area as well with a big levee along the Bohle River to keep water out. Some areas near Kirwan on Bohle plains as well. Advice do some homework, if you can find insurence flood risk areas, find old council flood maps online from a time when the likes of Lancini weren’t able to lobby for rezoning of flood areas.. Personally my property is still below what I bought for and don’t see it coming up to parity anytime soon.

    As for the town yeah defence & Government is really all thats left. Has a transient population went backwards for a number of years recently & development has stopped. The council are a hopeless basket case controlled by the big money in town for their own gain. That said not all doom & gloom the place has great potential if only they could get rid of the closed shop.

  46. Beertruk

    Toowoomba unites for Tamil family facing deportation

    Probably about 10 or 11 people. I’ll have to wander over to the newsagency to pick up a copy of the Toowoomba Comical and have a read.

  47. feelthebern

    Dutton will not let this family stay.
    Dutton drinks protesters tears for breakfast.
    The publicity stunt certainly has blown up in the Tamils/fake Tamils faces.

  48. feelthebern

    Avi has the benefit of being trained in krav maga.
    Gives him the confidence to go about his shit stirring.

  49. feelthebern

    KD, Avi is wearing a tactical turtleneck.
    But in the alpine camo style.

  50. Mother Lode

    I hope Rowe enjoys having been publicly caught out championing the lying country shoppers.

    He won’t be embarrassed, mind you. Being an open-borders guy he will believe that they should have been allowed to stay anyway, and that their lying was forced upon them by an unjust border control regime (implemented by an unjust out-of-control regime). All good leftists think that.

    And that their culturally authentic flocks of diversity belong in western suburbs ghettos – certainly not their own areas. What use would a Iraqi or a Sri Lankan have for a boutique bakery, organic water, and vibrant little theatre troupes specialising in ‘raising awareness’ of the plight of illegal immigrants?

    And what is with the cartoon of BoJo and his crew holding the Queen hostage to get a Brexit? I doubt the Queen is keen on staying in the EU – membership has coincided (not coincidentally mind) with the most appalling erosion of British values. Besides which, her role as monarch, apart from being symbolic of Britain as Britain (not a European province), but has no real place in the EU scheme – after all, not all nations penned up in the EU’s borders have a monarchy so monarchy cannot be part of their homogenised ideal.

  51. Knuckle Dragger

    You wouldn’t need to know krav maga to deal with the young Antifa cretin, who has the appearance of a cross between former WA paceman Bruce Reid and Simon le Bon. You’d give him an aneurysm just by looking at him, and with a decent tailwind you could hammer throw him over the nearest roof.

    If this muppet and fat Communist tarts are driving people from the streets, what the hell’s happened to the average punter?

  52. Bruce of Newcastle

    Bad news for Larry the No. 10 Cat.
    Boris Johnson to move ‘Jack Russell puppy rescued from cruel traders’ into No10

    Larry has already started trolling…

    Larry the Cat, Esq. @Number10cat
    2 hours ago
    Boris Johnson has decided to get a pet dog. It’s small, irritating and moans when it doesn’t get attention. They’re calling it Gove.

    Perfect!

  53. Knuckle Dragger

    Bern,

    Of course. The tactical turtleneck. Cancels out pretty much everything.

  54. Cassie of Sydney

    “Feelthebern
    #3145676, posted on September 2, 2019 at 7:41 am
    Avi has the benefit of being trained in krav maga.
    Gives him the confidence to go about his shit stirring.”

    Yep…..Avi would have those two little soft turds for breakfast.

  55. feelthebern

    If I wasn’t so soft & gelatinous I would explore krav maga.

  56. Mother Lode

    This from a judge who “imagines” testimony to be true. Without any evidence at all.

    His implacable hostility to the probative value of evidence strong hints at thoroughgoing inability to grasp it.

    Evidence confuses him.

    Seriously – someone is proven to have done a certain thing in a certain way with a certain frame of mind – but he feels that somehow does not make them guilty.

    Makes you wonder what he thinks ‘guilty’ means.

    Didn’t someone say that, before being tapped by the execrable Hulls, he was a solicitor working above a shop Dennis Denuto style? He also argued ‘the vibe’.

    At least Maxwell is being spared checking the copier tray ‘three fucking times’.

  57. calli

    Stig Bertilsson, a local Moderate Party politician in Bengtsfors was asked if migrants could help ease the burden by getting jobs and paying income taxes, but he admitted that while he hoped for a long term boost in tax revenue, it had so far not arrived.

    Spent a lot of time with a Swedish couple (academics) on the cruise. They said that, at home, it was considered very bad manners to discuss politics. That Swedes will put up with a great deal to keep the peace and not rock the boat with complaints.

    I reflected later that this compliant attitude is the net result of years of soft socialism in an economy that is upheld by exports of steel, timber and armaments, amongst other non-pc stuff.

    Given enough mooching and roopey and splodey “immigrants”, that attitude may change.

    But, at the moment, the blind eye and niceness prevails.

  58. Knuckle Dragger

    Hulls’ letterbox must be packed every December.

    Seasons’ greeting from judicial cretins.

  59. calli

    Love the Avi fillum.

    He brings out the inner cute asian giggling girl totalitarian quite effectively.

    The accusations and requests for him to stop doing exactly what they were doing is instructive.

  60. calli

    Given the vast amounts of plastic and laminated (using some rather environmentally unfriendly stuff) products flogged at Ikea, it’s a wonder the Swedes can live with themselves.

  61. John Constantine

    Panadol.

    The proles of Australia are to have panadol rationed.

    Twenty panadol in a pack from the supermarket is something that needs to be regulated.

    In Australia.

    Big Australia has made us so compliant that we accept our panadol being rationed.

    Seems more proles die of panadol overdose than die of medical marijuana overdose.

  62. Beertruk

    calli
    #3145692, posted on September 2, 2019 at 8:14 am
    …it’s a wonder the Swedes can live with themselves.

    Espescially after they unleashed The Greta.

  63. 1735099

    That’s right…and then perhaps the Toowoomba turd can sponsor them.

    Time to flick this one, Sinc.
    All she does is abuse.
    I was raised a gentleman, so I won’t call her the Sydney Slut.
    Kill two birds with one stone – remove temptation and and raise the tone.

  64. C.L.

    Coming soon: collapsed bridges and buildings that fall down …

    ‘A hand up, not a handout’: UTS lowers engineering entry bar for women.

    The University of Technology Sydney will allow female school leavers to enter its engineering courses with a lower ATAR than males under a plan to boost the number of women in the field.

    The university applied to the NSW Anti-Discrimination Board for permission to give 10 Australian Tertiary Admission Rank (ATAR) adjustment points to female students applying for engineering and construction degrees next year.

    Many universities allocate adjustment points based on disadvantage or illness, but UTS Director of Women in Engineering and IT, Arti Agarwal, said she believed the university would be the first to base them on gender.

    Dr Agarwal said a better gender balance will lead to improved student outcomes and better buildings and design in the wider world.

    “Lots of research has shown that teams are more productive when they are gender balanced. They come up with better ideas and better solutions,” she said.

    “We (women) ride in cars, we use public transport, we do all kinds of things,” she said. “If they are only being designed and engineered by one gender, then the requirements and needs of the other gender can get missed a bit.”

    Dr Agarwal said female participation in some UTS engineering programs, such as mechanics and mechatronics – was as low as four per cent, leading to a heavily male-dominated workforce.

    The faculty’s research also found that bonus points could boost female enrolments in some engineering courses by more than 10 per cent.

    “The decision would not lower the quality of the graduates,” she said. “I really cannot stress this enough – we are not taking people who don’t deserve to be here.”

  65. John Constantine

    Once enough saturation media coverage of panadol as a suicide solution gets out there, theory states that paracetamol will get magnetised in the thinking of the troubled.

    Self supporting State created problem that creates the demand for a State solution.

    Comrades.

  66. Entropy

    John Constantine
    #3145693, posted on September 2, 2019 at 8:18 am
    Panadol.
    The proles of Australia are to have panadol rationed.
    Twenty panadol in a pack from the supermarket is something that needs to be regulated.
    In Australia.
    Big Australia has made us so compliant that we accept our panadol being rationed.
    Seems more proles die of panadol overdose than die of medical marijuana overdose.

    Panamax 500mg 100 pack 59 cents

    Extra 5% if you buy via Cashback.

  67. Johno

    John, in the UK paracetamol is the most popular drug of choice for suicide.Take 18 tabs and there is no coming back.

  68. Entropy

    Little Miss Entropy plans on getting into engineering. But

    Dr Agarwal said a better gender balance will lead to improved student outcomes and better buildings and design in the wider world.

    This is quite annoying. Wouldnt those with the best marks make better buildings and design?
    I would say that she expects to get into a uni with a more credible engineering degree that also doesn’t have an automatic “token” rating for female graduates, but once UTS does it they all will.

  69. Roger

    The University of Technology Sydney will allow female school leavers to enter its engineering courses with a lower ATAR than males under a plan to boost the number of women in the field.

    Lo! Peak stupidity is nigh.

  70. 1735099

    The University of Technology Sydney will allow female school leavers to enter its engineering courses with a lower ATAR than males under a plan to boost the number of women in the field.

    I have no problem with this, just as I’d have no problem with lowering ATAR for males to improve the gender balance in teaching.

    The ATAR score, is of course, a very poor predictor of success at university, and even less so of cuccess in the chosen occupation.

  71. Roger

    Given the vast amounts of plastic and laminated (using some rather environmentally unfriendly stuff) products flogged at Ikea, it’s a wonder the Swedes can live with themselves.

    They can’t.

    They are systematically destroying their own culture.

  72. Cassie of Sydney

    “Time to flick this one, Sinc.
    All she does is abuse.
    I was raised a gentleman, so I won’t call her the Sydney Slut.
    Kill two birds with one stone – remove temptation and and raise the tone.”

    So the Toowoomba turd wants to decide who posts here and who doesn’t. Well at least he is being honest..a true totalitarian. And as for “raising the tone”…..as long as the Toowoomba turd uses this site as a toilet…the tone won’t be raised.

  73. Roger

    Well…Sri Lankan Tamil family lied in their visa applications.

    Father travelled widely for work during and after the civil war and was not on any watch list.

  74. calli

    For students in our study, more than 55% were female, the mean ATAR score was less than 60, about one in five were born in non-English speaking countries, about one third speak a language other than English at home and more than 80% went to government or Catholic schools.

    For these students, we found ATARs to be a weak predictor of their academic performance.

    Pretty narrow band studied.

    I wonder what the conclusion would be if the sample was taken from a broader range.

  75. Tom

    Well done, your Doomlordship. The old commo troll is now instructing you to remove whoever he doesn’t like.

    Like all leftards given privileges they’re busting to abuse, he’s now power-drunk.

    Meantime, I’m sure we could get you a job denuding commercial news websites of their readers. You’re a natural.

  76. feelthebern

    numbers where & when were you a pro bono advocate?
    numbers what internet plan were you on when you downloaded the Pentagon Papers?

  77. Mater

    Well done, your Doomlordship. The old commo troll is now instructing you to remove whoever he doesn’t like.

    Yeah, but he did self identify as “The Toowoomba Turd”. I think it’s going to stick…like the proverbial to a blanket.

  78. Percy Popinjay

    Zanetti’s portrayal of Sham Dastyari as an utterly vacuous and blundering Mr Bean is spot on.

  79. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    numbers where & when were you a pro bono advocate?

    I hope Numbers Ho was properly accredited – “pro bono” advocates have been sued before, for giving “duff gen.”

  80. calli

    The University performance/school result stats interest me for personal reasons.

    The New Broom dropped out after a high score, whereas the girls persevered, even when the going got really tough. I got (back in the day) a TER of 97 (point something-or-other) and dropped out for family reasons.

    Watching all the childrens’ peer group and what they went on to after school, it seems very hard to predict.

    If courses aren’t being filled with academically suitable applicants, those universities should accept that they won’t be fully subscribed. Dropping entrance scores just makes the coursework harder for those students. Or the coursework is dumbed down to accommodate them, thus reducing the quality of the final qualification.

  81. classical_hero

    I don’t understand how ssr is banned and yet numbers isn’t.

  82. 1735099

    I employed an ex-copper at one of my schools as a bus driver/teacher aide.
    He was a big man in every sense of the word.
    As he got to know me he confided the circumstances around his departure from the police force.
    A fairly senior copper got pissed and was involved in an accident (in his private vehicle) where someone was injured.
    All evidence of DUI was somehow hidden, and his career remained unaffected.
    This bloke was outraged, and tried to go over his head (in the days before Fitzgerald).
    He was treated like crap, (bad shifts/bad reports/orchestrated complaints/punitive transfers) until his family cried “enough” and he resigned.
    This was in pre-Fitzgerald Queensland.
    Looks like the same phenomenon was occurring in Victoria.

  83. Roger

    Or the coursework is dumbed down to accommodate them, thus reducing the quality of the final qualification.

    This is already happening to accommodate foreign students who expect a pass for their $.

  84. calli

    Srr became personally abusive. And linked to some really wierd sites.

    So no, I don’t understand it either.

    😀

  85. Percy Popinjay

    so I won’t call her the …

    A disgusting new low for a subterranean shithead.

  86. 1735099

    Perhaps Sinc could post the criteria he uses to ban posters.
    Unless, of course because the blog is a “hobby”, he does it on a whim.
    That’s his prerogative.
    Apparently abuse, and fantasies about disagreeable posters who don’t toe the line are acceptable.
    Hopefully, all opinions are OK.
    It is, apparently, a Libertarian site – says so top right.

  87. mh

    Gary Varvel has an interesting cartoon.

    More buns than sausages. 😉

  88. The Beer Whisperer

    You don’t have the mindset of a politician let alone a tyrant ideolog.

    Yes, Mark. I’ve seen a tyrant run a tennis club until she was the only member left apart from her cuckolded husband.

    It doesn’t take much imagination to understand what they would do if they had control over life and death.

  89. 1735099

    Srr became personally abusive.

    And Cassie doesn’t?
    Do you understand the meaning of “double standard”?

  90. stackja

    Man charged after allegedly assaulting probationary constable – Riverwood
    Monday, 02 September 2019 02:04:32 AM

    A man will appear in court today after allegedly assaulting a probationary constable during an arrest yesterday.

    About 11.45pm on Saturday (31 August 2019), police were called to a licensed premises on Josephine Street, Riverwood, following reports a man was involved in a confrontation with bar staff, where he allegedly poured a beer over a woman and smashed a glass over a man’s head, before fleeing the scene.

    Officers from St George Police Area Command attended and commenced an investigation.

    Just before 5pm yesterday (Sunday 1 September 2019), police were called back to the premises after reports the man had returned.

    Upon arrival, the man sighted police and a foot pursuit commenced through the hotel and into the rear carpark, where a male probationary constable stopped him.

    While the man was resisting arrest, police will allege he removed the OC Spray from the officer’s vest and deployed it towards him. A member of the public assisted in detaining the 24-year-old man before he was arrested.

    He was taken to Kogarah Police Station and charged with common assault, assault occasioning actual bodily harm, resist arrest, assault police, posses/use prohibited weapon, use offensive weapon to prevent lawful detention, two counts of breach ADVO and breach of bail.

    The man was refused bail to appear before Sutherland Local Court today (Monday 2 September 2019).

    The probationary constable was decontaminated and did not require treatment.

  91. stackja

    Scrolling, scrolling…

  92. Black Ball

    Good morning.
    How many young women actually apply to become engineers? Conversely, how many young men apply to become teachers? And why is lowering the ATAR a good thing for any of these endeavours? As Knuckle Dragger repeatedly points out, the lowering of standards for female police has led to shouty morons incapable of chasing crooks if push ever came to shove. Leave the standards as they are and if you fail to meet those then find another vocation.

  93. calli

    Good grief.

    ESL. Has to be.

  94. Cassie of Sydney

    Everyone…the new chief censor of this site is the Toowoomba turd.

  95. 1735099

    feelthebern
    #3145709, posted on September 2, 2019 at 8:44 am
    numbers where & when were you a pro bono advocate?
    numbers what internet plan were you on when you downloaded the Pentagon Papers?

    When did you stop beating your wife?

  96. Cassie of Sydney

    Oh and I’m not being “personally abusive”…I am just stating a fact….there are, after all, turds in Toowoomba…aren’t there?

  97. Cassie of Sydney

    “When did you stop beating your wife?”

    Oooh…he’s getting desperate and angry. The turd can dish it out but he can’t take it…..a true totalitarian.

  98. Beertruk

    When did you stop beating your wife?

    That is low even for you.

  99. Dr Faustus

    Or the coursework is dumbed down to accommodate them, thus reducing the quality of the final qualification.

    Or, where this is impractical because of the subject matter, the heavy use of ‘group assignments’. With carefully curated groups, to ensure there will be at least two high performers who will be working towards High Distinctions to carry the ‘should-not-be-there’ through to a Moderated Pass.

  100. JB of Sydney/Shanghai

    Feel the Bern…. this is for you, if you are worried about being a gelatinous guy!

  101. John Constantine

    https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/the-key-to-reducing-soaring-paracetamol-overdose-numbers-doctor-20190901-p52mu5.html

    The study published in the Medical Journal of Australia on Monday found in 2016-2017 there were 11,754 admissions to hospitals across the country for paracetamol overdoses, compared to 8147 in 2007-2008. This equated to a 44 per cent increase.

    Dr Cairns said the study, by the University of Sydney and NSW Poisons Information Centre, could not pinpoint the reason for the increase but said the ease with which paracetamol was accessible meant it was easy to get into trouble intentionally or unintentionally.

    “With the intentional self-harm overdoses, it is usually impulsive and [depends on] what is in the home, so if you have a big pack, it is an issue,” she said.

    Sometimes people were not aware that they might be doubling up when taking cold and flu tablets as well.

    “Take two asprin and call me in the morning”

    Comrades.

  102. Cassie of Sydney

    “Beertruk
    #3145736, posted on September 2, 2019 at 9:09 am
    When did you stop beating your wife?

    That is low even for you.”

    No…it’s pretty normal.

  103. feelthebern

    When did you stop beating your wife?

    Oh my!
    Take a deep breath numbers.
    Please don’t type anything that could result in….unpleasantness.

  104. turds in Toowoomba

    Sounds like a good lefty festival name.

    Anyhow, turds aren’t the problem. It is floaters.
    y’know, the ones that won’t flush. A single floater can ruin a day at the beach for everyone.

  105. When did you stop beating your wife?

    At what?

  106. Some History

    Have you ever questioned Greta™? You’re a right-wing, climate-change-denier nut case.

    Who is afraid of Greta Thunberg?
    As the world starts to pay attention to Greta, she is increasingly the target of character assassination attempts.

    In words and deeds, Greta is the embodiment of philosopher Howard Zinn’s admonition: “We don’t have to engage in grand, heroic actions to participate in the process of change. Small acts, when multiplied by millions of people, can quietly become a power no government can suppress, a power that can transform the world.”
    Of course, the marauding swarm of vitriolic right-wing climate change deniers see Greta – not how the prophetic Zinn envisioned her – but as a tiny, pretentious zealot who threatens the existing order. Their order. Their comforts. Their traditional “way of life”.
    De rigueur, they have set out to discredit and, if possible, to destroy Greta with their, by now, familiar and crass modus operandi.
    They have mocked her. They have belittled her. They have denigrated her. They have insulted her. They have dismissed her. They have questioned her motives. They have suggested she is anti-democratic. They have, in the fetid recesses of the internet, even threatened her.
    To afford all their fuming, sophomoric attacks the imprimatur of seriousness, they insist – as they always do – that they are the implacable realists, who, unlike starry-eyed leftists, aren’t duped by the media’s veneration of a youngster peddling doom and gloom over the supposedly still contested science about whether the end is neigh or not.
    They would, no doubt, recoil at any suggestion that their furious hostility towards Greta is also the product of a calcifying cynicism, seething malevolence or signature cruelty.
    Rather, they insist, it is an expression of their necessary role as skeptics or contrarians in the noble tradition of their philosophical patron saint in name only, Galileo, who also questioned the prevailing scientific orthodoxy.
    It is a lie and an insult. They aren’t “skeptics” or “contrarians”. They are scientifically illiterate bullies who amplify their malice and ignorance with a bullhorn on TV or keyboard on Twitter.
    They share no intellectual affinity with Galileo. None. Bereft of an argument that could remotely be considered empirically or rationally sound, they traffic in hyperbole and smears designed to pummel Greta into an inconsequential afterthought.
    The teenage revolutionary must be stopped before the climate revolution she leads goes beyond their ability to halt it.
    Consider what the Australian columnist, Andrew Bolt, had to say about her.
    “No teenager is more freakishly influential than Greta Thunberg, the deeply disturbed messiah of the global warming movement,” he wrote. “I have never seen a girl so young and with so many mental disorders treated by so many adults as a guru.”
    Not done calling her a freak and disturbed, Bolt invoked Greta’s reported past eating disorder, emotional and psychological struggles and autism as a cudgel against her.
    I defer to psychologists to discern the pathology that would prompt such viciousness. But Bolt’s fear of the Greta Thunberg phenomenon is plain. She is prevailing. He is losing. She is being heard, while he shouts obscenities. She grows more relevant by the day, while he slips further into irrelevancy and hysteria.
    When the predictable character assassination of a teenager gambit fails, it’s time to raise “questions” about who or what powerful forces may be acting as Svengalis exploiting a vulnerable, damaged “child” for their parochial aims and possible profit.
    “Is Greta a green prophet or a schoolgirl puppet controlled by more sinister forces behind her?” the always temperate London-based The Sun asked, rhetorically.
    Using innuendo and recycled drivel, The Sun claimed a “naive” Greta was being manipulated by her “fame-hungry” mother and “energy giants”.

    RTWT

    https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/afraid-greta-thunberg-190901191445655.html

  107. calli

    The teenage revolutionary must be stopped before the climate revolution she leads goes beyond their ability to halt it.

    Yes. The “hundreds” gathered in protest outside the UN are proof positive that the Climate Revolution has gained traction.

    Or not.

  108. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Relates to my experience above

    It’s not your experience at all, Liability Bob. It’s someone else’s story that he told you.

    It’s also one of the oldest stories going around, told to people who don’t know any better by (allegedly) people punted from their profession. ‘Oh but my boss did the wrong thing. I was a whistleblower. Not my fault.’ The line of work is irrelevant.

    Thought you may have known better, accepting spurious tales of victimisation by The Man on face value.

    Or maybe not.

  109. Mother Lode

    ‘A hand up, not a handout’: UTS lowers engineering entry bar for women.

    It is a hand out.

    They are being given something without having to make any additional effort.

    And hand up would be doing something to get their skills up to existing requirements.

    And even then there is a degree of hand out since they would be getting extra attention presumably not being offered to blokes.

  110. feelthebern

    feelthebern
    #3145709, posted on September 2, 2019 at 8:44 am
    numbers where & when were you a pro bono advocate?
    numbers what internet plan were you on when you downloaded the Pentagon Papers?

    Why the brain explosion numbers?
    Have my simple questions gotten to you?
    Can’t you deal with a couple of innocent questions?

  111. 1735099

    If the travel warnings were fair dinkum, they’d have the USA as a “consider your need to travel” destination, given the Australians who have been shot there recently.
    AFAIK, no Aussies have been shot and killed in say, Iran, Colombia or Pakistan, recently.

  112. calli

    I defer to psychologists to discern the pathology that would prompt such viciousness.

    Being robbed blind while being preached at by hypocrites might prompt protest.

    Now can I have my fee for the diagnosis?

  113. Ubique

    The Oz running a headline story on six illegal immigrant boats from Sri Lanka being intercepted in recent weeks. The moderators reject this comment:
    “In the world of people smuggling, it still hasn’t sunk in that Bill Shorten didn’t win the Federal election.”

    But 8 hrs later, this one is accepted:
    News of the Liberals’ election win hasn’t reached the people smugglers’ customers yet.

    Sydney University students must be doing the night moderator shift.

  114. Bruce of Newcastle

    Bangers and mash for breakfast anyone?

    Booby-Trapped Cows Detonate In Iraq, Wounding One (via BCF)

    A security source said on Saturday that a civilias was wounded when booby-trapped cows exploded in a village in eastern Iraq, according to Al Sumeria.

    The source stated that “two cow bombs exploded in the village of Al Islah in the Diyala Governorate in Iraq, wounding a civilian.”

    Security forces cordoned off the scene and transported the injured person to a nearby hospital for treatment.

  115. Roger

    Using innuendo and recycled drivel, The Sun claimed a “naive” Greta was being manipulated by her “fame-hungry” mother and “energy giants”.

    Greta’s corporate sponsors.

  116. Ubique

    AFAIK, no Aussies have been shot and killed in say, Iran, Colombia or Pakistan, recently.

    That’s only because in those countries the Aussies can’t be distinguished from the locals.

  117. feelthebern

    Don’t drive angry numbers.
    Remember, safety first.

  118. Ellie

    A lot of name calling this morning.
    Settle.

  119. Knuckle Dragger

    Topic shifting.

    He’ll be gargling about EVs through his Metamucil shortly.

  120. feelthebern

    AFAIK, no Aussies have been shot and killed in say, Iran, Colombia or Pakistan, recently.

    Considering numbers outburst this morning, I think a travel warning for Toowoomba would be warranted.

  121. MatrixTransform

    Time to flick this one, Sinc.
    All she does is abuse.
    I was raised a gentleman, so I won’t call her the Sydney Slut.
    Kill two birds with one stone – remove temptation and and raise the tone.

    brings his own rake … says the same thing as fat communist chicks everywhere

  122. feelthebern

    An outburst like that could impact someones working with children certification.
    Oh, that’s right….

  123. Top Ender

    The probationary constable was decontaminated and did not require treatment.

    The probationary constable will be considered an all-round hero by everyone who isn’t a woke SJW copper.

  124. C.L.

    “We (women) ride in cars, we use public transport, we do all kinds of things,” she said.

    This is my quote of the day.

  125. MatrixTransform

    with a lower ATAR than males under a plan to boost the number of women in the field.

    I listened to that psycho on talkback radio last week.

    She’s dead serious that improving quotas will improve outcomes.

    I think she needs a refresher in stoichiometry

  126. Geriatric Mayfly

    Didn’t someone say that, before being tapped by the execrable Hulls, he was a solicitor working above a shop Dennis Denuto style? He also argued ‘the vibe’.

    Memory V. That was the sheila on the Bench who sat there for the duration with a broom up her backside.

  127. Knuckle Dragger

    Rumour has it, TE, that a big no-no in that line of work is having any of your gear taken off you.

    If this is true, the young feller better have a carton in his hand when he turns up for work today.

  128. C.L.

    I think we can now safely say that US Deep State has decided to leave Wussia-gate at a draw.
    The Democrats couldn’t lie Trump out of office and the Republicans won’t prosecute and jail those responsible for this, the largest political scandal in American history.

  129. Black Ball

    This morning has reminded me of George Costanza wanting to get fired from the Yankees. Always escalating, from smearing Babe Ruth’s uniform with strawberries whilst wearing it to a staff meeting, to dragging a World Series trophy behind his car yelling obscenities at Steinbrenner. “You see, I really want to make my mark this time, whenever they bring my name up they say that guy got canned!” Or some such.
    Anyone running a book on a smoting?

  130. Some History

    … over the supposedly still contested science about whether the end is neigh or not.

    Neigh, neigh [carrot, please]

  131. Mother Lode

    I think we can now safely say that US Deep State has decided to leave Wussia-gate at a draw.

    Monty Python’s Black Knight style.

  132. Knuckle Dragger

    BB,

    Perfect analogy.

    Clearly he’s saving conscription for the grand finale.

  133. feelthebern

    Footage of numbers preparing.

  134. notafan

    thanks rockdoctor have passed the message on

  135. notafan

    and gosh KD only now you discover i have a sense of humour?

    lol

  136. notafan

    Universities might take them but will employers

    Meanwhile female engineering graduates who got there on merit are thrilled for th sistas

  137. Knuckle Dragger

    Oh I knew it was there, nota. Glad it hadn’t disappeared.

    Mateymateymateymateymaaaaaaaaaate.

    *shadow boxes*

  138. Ivan Denisovich

    Another terrific examination of the Pell judgement by Keith Windschuttle:

    To sum up, let me put the case for and against the choirboy’s credibility as succinctly as I can.

    The case for the choirboy’s credibility:

    # The choirboy suffered a dramatic incident in 1996, hence his memory of what happened in the cathedral that day must be better than all the pro-Pell witnesses there at the same time. Therefore, on points of contention, his version should be preferred over theirs.

    # The choirboy’s language and demeanour are more persuasive than that of all the other witnesses. Therefore, the whole of his testimony has the stamp of “truthfulness and reliability”.

    # Knowing that, if caught, the choirboy would have jeopardised the hopes of everyone in his working-class family and ruined his own ambitions to succeed at a rich private school, he still went ahead and engaged in a forbidden escapade in the sacristy. Nonetheless, according to the majority opinion of the Court of Appeal: “both the content of what he said and the way in which he said it — including the language he used — appeared to us to be entirely authentic”.

    The case against the choirboy’s credibility:

    # The sacristy had been renovated since 1996 and did not look the same as it did then. The choirboy saw the renovated room in 2016 and declared it looked the same as it did in 1996. Therefore, his memory is suspect.

    # The choirboy testified that he had only been in the sacristy once, at the time of the sexual assault, but it is highly probable he saw inside it several times before and after December 1996 in both an introductory tour of the cathedral and as the boys went back and forth along the sacristy corridor. Therefore, there are reasonable grounds for believing he is not telling the whole truth.

    # The choirboy testified that all his own hopes and those of his family, were tied up in his success in the cathedral choir and St Kevin’s College. Yet he jeopardised that future by breaking the rules for choirboys when he left the choral procession, went into the prohibited area of the sacristy, and drank the altar wine. But he still maintained he was completely dedicated to behaving properly: “I was more focused on being um, doing the right thing as a choirboy.” The Court of Appeal should have recognised that the whole case against George Pell was grounded in this contradiction, and thrown it out.

    https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/qed/2019/09/the-contradictions-of-the-choirboy/

  139. notafan

    I have no problem with this, just as I’d have no problem with lowering ATAR for males to improve the gender balance in teaching.

    You can’t go lower than zero

    it isn’t atar scores that are keeping men out of teaching

  140. Bruce in WA

    With regard to children’s literature.

    My wife is involved with the Children’s Book Council and a member of a book club that deals exclusively with YA (young adult) fiction.

    She tells me that all the “serious” YA books are about “issues” these days. For example, here are the blurbs from two she is reading at the moment.

    Brisbane, 1985. A lost father, a mute brother, a junkie mum, a heroin dealer for a stepfather and a notorious crime for a baby sitter. It’s not as if Elli Bell’s life isn’t complicated enough already. He’s just following his heart and trying to understand what it means to be a good man, but fate keeps throwing obstacles in his way — not the least of which is Tytus Broz, legendary Brisbane drug dealer.

    Don’t you love the names?

    But now Eli’s life is going to get a whole lot more serious: he’s about to meet the father he doesn’t remember, break into Boggo Road Gaol on Christmas Day to rescue his mum, come face to face with the criminals who tore his world apart, and fall in love with the girls of his dreams.

    That’s a story for adolescents?

    Or this one:

    Nate’s had it tough. An abusive father. His mother dead. He’s done things he regrets. But he’s never met anyone like Gem. She’s a tiny piece of wonderful and she’ll change everything he knows about himself. Is this the beginning of happiness? Or is there more hardship around the corner?

    Well, yes, there is … (spoiler) Gem dies.

    And the deathless prose? From the first book:

    “Why the fuck did you say I would break his face?” Dad asks.

    “I thought it would scare him off”, I say.

    “You know I can’t fight for shit, don’t ya?” he says.

    “I thought that was just when you were pissed.”

    “I fight better when I’m pissed.”

    We’re fucked. Such is life.

    Well, how about the blurb from the book that won the CBCA Book of the Year award?

    Is it possible for two very different teenagers to fall in love despite high barbed-wire fences and a political wilderness between them?

    Anahita is passionate, curious and determined. She is also an Iranian asylum seeker who is only allowed out of detention to attend school. On weekdays, during school hours, she can be a ‘regular Australian girl’.

    Jono needs the distraction of an infatuation. In the past year his mum has walked out, he’s been dumped and his sister has moved away. Lost and depressed, Jono feels as if he’s been left behind with his Vietnamese single father, Kenny.

    Kenny is struggling to work out the rules in his new job; he recently started work as a guard at the Wickham Point Detention Centre. He tells Anahita to look out for Jono at school, but quickly comes to regret this, spiraling into suspicion and mistrust. Who is this girl, really? What is her story? Is she a genuine refugee or a queue jumper? As Jono and Anahita grow closer, Kenny starts snooping behind the scenes…

    So yeah, all things considered, sometimes Biggles doesn’t seem so bad.

  141. Old School Conservative

    A security source said on Saturday that a civilian was wounded when booby-trapped cows exploded

    That’s terribull. Worse, it’s a-bomb-in-a-bull.

  142. notafan

    Lol Toowoomba troll crying about ‘abuse’

    Cassie’s comments are meek and mind compared to what sixty posts a day srr used to dish out to his/her targets, including actual threats of violence, unless promising to run you down with their motor cycle mates was a term of endearment.

    didn’t take much to get on the (U) srr hate list either

  143. feelthebern

    srr used to be amazing.
    They could post for 96 hours straight.
    That’s stamina.
    Ol’ numbers got no ticker.
    & I think he might be losing it.

  144. dover_beach

    Late-Term Abortionist Advertises Cuddling With Aborted Baby Before Tossing Infant in the Trash

    The brochure explains that late-term abortions take three to four days, and involve a “medication,” or poison, being injected into the womb to stop the unborn baby’s heart. On the final day, Carhart induces labor so that the woman gives birth to a “typically intact stillborn” baby.

    Is the barbarity of late-term abortion ever confronted by those considering it in the NSW parliament. Why isn’t the child simply delivered a put up for adoption rather than murdered and then delivered? Has anyone in the Parliament actually asked this question?

    Afterward, Carhart offers women the chance to bond with their dead baby, as if the baby died naturally instead of being intentionally killed. Some of the “services” that he offers include:

    Viewing your baby after the delivery
    Holding your baby after the delivery
    Photographs of your baby
    Cremation services referral
    Funeral arrangements referral
    Footprints
    Spiritual and ceremonial accommodations
    Remembrance certificate

    “Every family approaches this experience with their own unique emotional, spiritual, and cultural background,” the brochure states. “There is no right or wrong way, just ‘your way.’ Once the process of healing has begun, you may want to consider a token of the precious time with you and your baby had together.”

    The chutzpah!

    The aging abortionist, who is in his late 70s, told journalist Hilary Andersson that he “loves his job” and is proud to perform late-term abortions. Unlike many abortion activists, Carhart uses the word “baby,” too.

    Andersson noted: “It’s interesting that you use the word ‘baby’ because a lot of abortionists won’t use that. They’ll use the word ‘fetus’ because they don’t want to acknowledge that there’s a life.”

    “I think that it is a baby,” Carhart replied, “and … I use it with the patients.”

    “And you don’t have a problem killing a baby?” she asked.

    “Absolutely not. I have no problem if it’s in the mother’s uterus,” he answered.

    Two things are striking about this, that the reporter imagines that a fetus isn’t alive or a life; and secondly, the implication that the uterus is some how a lawless jurisdiction.

  145. Arky

    I employed an ex-copper at one of my schools as a bus driver/teacher aide.
    He was a big man in every sense of the word.

    ..
    Were you fucking him?

  146. Beertruk

    turds in Toowoomba

    Thank you for reminding me. Back in 2005 or there abouts there was concern that Toowoomba would become Poowoomba due to plans for a water recycling plant to recycle the sewerage into drinkable water.
    Toowoomba resident Rosemary Morley founded the group Citizens Against Drinking Sewage, leading the ‘No’ campaign in the 2006 vote.

    “Despite the Queensland Government’s position, she is adamant Toowoomba will never have recycled treated sewage.
    “We are firmly opposed to water from a recycle plant,” she said.
    “We have enough of a committee and a fighting machine up here to reject that again and we would.”
    She refuses to accept that in times of desperate water shortages, her campaign may have lost the fight against recycled water.

    Now we have a pipeline from Wivenhoe Dam to Cressbrook Dam built in 2010 for 187m (used for the first time this year) and pay for the privilege each time rates are due to be paid whether you use town water or not.

  147. notafan

    Thanks Bruce

    reminds me of those awful moral children’s books of the twenties and thirties written for the bible class prize market that n0-one actually wanted to read

    new improved insipid and tedious rubbish now with lowlifes and rude words

    it is rare for anything written to send a message to be actually entertaining

  148. Robert Mc

    Cassie’s comments are meek and mild

    Yeah … you say that … but … Cassie is a fruitcake. In truth, most of what she writes here is evidence of an unsound mind. If she repeated it in public she would be sectioned.

  149. Beertruk

    dover_beach
    #3145788, posted on September 2, 2019 at 10:56 am
    Two things are striking about this, that the reporter imagines that a fetus isn’t alive or a life; and secondly, the implication that the uterus is some how a lawless jurisdiction.

    I keep wondering how these people reconcile with a baby that somehow manages to survive the abortion attempt.

  150. Johno

    Any predictions for the AFL? I think it is between Geelong, Richmond and Collingwood.

  151. Ivan Denisovich

    Andersson noted: “It’s interesting that you use the word ‘baby’ because a lot of abortionists won’t use that. They’ll use the word ‘fetus’ because they don’t want to acknowledge that there’s a life.”

    Actually, many abortionists know they are committing murder:

    ‘I know it’s murder’: Shocking quotes from abortionists openly admitting they’re killing babies

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/abortionists-agree-abortion-is-killing

  152. dover_beach

    I keep wondering how these people reconcile with a baby that somehow manages to survive the abortion attempt.

    We know as a matter of fact that babies that survive late-term abortions, i.e. where the poison has failed to kill the child, the child is often left to die alone and without the provision of any medical care.

  153. egg:

    Want to help cut air pollution? You might need to keep your engine on

    Isn’t it surprising how we’ve worked out the way we want to do things, but no matter what we we do, it’s essentially the wrong thing and we have to change?
    It suggests to me the things we are doing isn’t the issue – the issue is demanding control over the things we do.

  154. Sinclair Davidson

    Are we all grumpy because it’s Monday?

  155. Black Ball

    Richmond for me Johno, but if Collingwood get a healthy list for once then they will give it a shake. Stephenson’s return is key.

  156. Ivan Denisovich

    Try that again.

    Andersson noted: “It’s interesting that you use the word ‘baby’ because a lot of abortionists won’t use that. They’ll use the word ‘fetus’ because they don’t want to acknowledge that there’s a life.”

    Actually, many abortionists know they are committing murder:

    ‘I know it’s murder’: Shocking quotes from abortionists openly admitting they’re killing babies

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/abortionists-agree-abortion-is-killing

  157. Bruce in WA

    Are we all grumpy because it’s Monday?

    If you wake up feeling dopey and grumpy, you’re probably Snow White.

  158. feelthebern

    I love this time of year.
    On the cusp of the footy finals.
    Everything is so fresh & vibrant.

  159. Ivan Denisovich

    We know as a matter of fact that babies that survive late-term abortions, i.e. where the poison has failed to kill the child, the child is often left to die alone and without the provision of any medical care.

    Flushed down the toilet:

    https://m.facebook.com/logged_out/watch/?video_id=10155868720598728&refsrc=http%3A%2F%2Fduckduckgo.com%2F&_rdr

  160. feelthebern

    Everything is so fresh & vibrant.

    Everything that is except numbers.
    He’s stale & crusty.
    & a tad on the surly side this morning.
    I blame it on him telling his wife about his extended family in Vietnam.
    She must not have taken it well.

  161. Cassie of Sydney

    “Sinclair Davidson
    #3145798, posted on September 2, 2019 at 11:12 am
    Are we all grumpy because it’s Monday?”

    I’m not grumpy….I am happy.

  162. Roger

    AgForce backs Peter Ridd’s call for a review of Great Barrier Reef “consensus science”.

  163. Snoopy

    break into Boggo Road Gaol on Christmas Day to rescue his mum,

    LOL. He’s in for some major disappointment. What a loser.

  164. C.L.

    Carhart recently shocked a BBC reporter when he admitted that he kills babies.

    The aging abortionist, who is in his late 70s, told journalist Hilary Andersson that he “loves his job” and is proud to perform late-term abortions. Unlike many abortion activists, Carhart uses the word “baby,” too.

    I can’t see how it would be morally illicit to take Cathcart out. No more complicated than assassinating Mengele – which would have been perfectly legitimate.

  165. DrBeauGan

    I’m planning to get bank account details from Maria tomorrow, and also planning to send her a hundred bucks a week when I get back . She’s going to be my charity. Her and her daughter.

    I don’t know if it’s a good idea or not. But at least she’s a real person, and Cubans need all the help they can get. It’s not a lot to me and quite a lot to her.

  166. Geriatric Mayfly

    break into Boggo Road Gaol on Christmas Day to rescue his mum,

    Usually it’s break-outs at gaols. Seldom if ever hear of a break-in, but kids need a super hero like Eli with whom they can identify.

  167. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    My Asperger’s is a superpower: Thunberg

    By Tom Parfitt
    The Times
    18 minutes ago September 2, 2019
    6 Comments

    The environmental activist Greta Thunberg has struck back at critics who deride her for having Asperger syndrome, saying that it makes her “a bit different from the norm” but can act as a “superpower”.

    The 16-year-old Swede arrived in New York last week after crossing the Atlantic in a zero-carbon yacht to attend the UN Climate Action Summit in the city later this month.

    Ms Thunberg’s supporters say that opponents who reject mainstream climate science are engaging in “autism bashing” of the schoolgirl in an attempt to discredit her ideas. Patrick Moore, a former Greenpeace activist who claims that there is no scientific basis for climate change, has described her as a puppet with a mental disorder who is being abused by her parents, and likened her and her allies to the Hitler Youth.

    Ms Thunberg defended herself on social media over the weekend, writing: “When haters go after your looks and differences it means they have nowhere left to go. And then you know you’re winning! I have Asperger’s and that means I’m sometimes a bit different from the norm. And — given the right circumstances — being different is a superpower.”

    Several years ago doctors diagnosed Asperger syndrome, obsessive compulsive disorder and selective mutism, meaning that she speaks only when she thinks it is necessary. “I’m not public about my diagnosis to ‘hide’ behind it, but because I know many ignorant people still see it as an “illness”, or something negative,” she said. “And believe me, my diagnosis has limited me before. Before I started school striking I had no energy, no friends and I didn’t speak to anyone. I just sat alone at home, with an eating disorder.”

    She added: “All of that is gone now, since I have found a meaning in a world that sometimes seems meaningless to so many people.”

    Asperger syndrome is a milder autism spectrum disorder often characterised by difficulties in social interaction and restricted interests. Its positive traits can include remarkable focus and persistence and attention to detail.

    Ms Thunberg came to prominence last year after she skipped school to protest outside the Swedish parliament about inaction over tackling the human causes of climate change. She became the spearhead of global school strikes over the issue this year that involved more than a million pupils. She has since met President Macron of France, Pope Francis and British politicians.

    From the Oz. The blessed Saint Greta speaks. Alas for the good old days of “Children should be seen and not heard.”

  168. Ellie

    Hello Doomlord, Master, Sir

  169. Ellie

    Dr BG, you’re a good and kind gentleman.

  170. Socrates:

    “Judge” Maxwell concerned that unreliable evidence is putting innocent people in jail?

    That’s the ‘tell’ that he wants Socialist Justice because it can be divined – it doesn’t have to be proven.
    Ask Cardinal Pell – that’s how he was found guilty, it was divined. (Like water divining.)

  171. Arky

    I don’t know if it’s a good idea or not.

    ..
    It’s a stupid idea.
    You are a mug.

  172. Beertruk

    “They’ll use the word ‘fetus’ because they don’t want to acknowledge that there’s a life.”

    I got into an argument with someone (a woman) who used the word ‘parasite.’

    I found some good info this article to argue against it:
    Babies Are Not Parasites

    She hasn’t replied.

  173. Arky

    Send me $100 a week.
    I have a car to restore.

  174. Johno

    Black Ball, got to agree there. Heart says Collingwood, head says Richmond. Would not surprise me if the Bullies get up though. Spirit 16 and all that.

  175. Ellie

    Send me $100 a week.
    I have a car to restore.

    Arky, you don’t have boobs and didn’t dance for DrBG in the shower.

  176. Arky

    Arky, you don’t have boobs

    ..
    I’m working on it.

  177. Snoopy

    I would like just one of the many incredibly curious members of the world’s media to hand Greta a pen and paper and ask her to write something. In English.

  178. Knuckle Dragger

    I can’t be objective about this.

    Collingwood. Has to be. Although the threat will come, if anywhere, from Richmond. When they decide to turn up and play – and consistently – they’re unstoppable.

  179. Beertruk

    My Asperger’s is a superpower: Thunberg

    “Thnderberg is go!”

  180. Ellie

    Arky, you don’t have boobs

    ..
    I’m working on it.

    Just don’t get any ideas about walking into a female toilet with them there boobs!

  181. Sinclair Davidson

    Hi Ellie

    Welcome back.

  182. Bruce of Newcastle

    AgForce backs Peter Ridd’s call for a review of Great Barrier Reef “consensus science”.

    Several billion reasons why that won’t happen.

  183. Knuckle Dragger:

    You wouldn’t need to know krav maga to deal with the young Antifa cretin, who has the appearance of a cross between former WA paceman Bruce Reid and Simon le Bon. You’d give him an aneurysm just by looking at him, and with a decent tailwind you could hammer throw him over the nearest roof.
    If this muppet and fat Communist tarts are driving people from the streets, what the hell’s happened to the average punter?

    Best way to deal with the youngster?
    Ask him how many roots he gets hanging arount with the fat slag.
    If he answers ‘many’, she’ll deck him.
    If he answers ‘none’, Avi can just laugh at him, call him ‘pencil neck, noodle armed bitch.’
    …and make a GIF of it.

  184. Any predictions for the AFL?

    The highest revenue generating sides will play in the GF.
    Prior to this, whatever generates the most money for sponsors and kickbackers will guide the outcome for the earlier games.
    So Collingwood v Eagles or Brisbane for the GF.

  185. DrBeauGan

    It’s a stupid idea.
    You are a mug.

    Maybe. I’m willing to consider the possibility. I’m not willing to give you $100 a week to restore a car, so there are limits to my mugitude.

    I’m largely motivated by the little girl. I’d like to see her go to a decent school and learn English.

  186. feelthebern

    I’d like to see her go to a decent school and learn English.

    Find a school.
    Pay the school fees direct.
    This bird sounds like a selfish b*tch.

  187. John Constantine

    Grumpy?.

    I’m as happy as Rahkeem Cornwall, professional world class athlete at 300 pounds plus.

    Takes his first Test Cricket wicket.

  188. Cassie of Sydney

    It’s always nice to see Elle!

  189. Ellie

    Hi Cassie. Hope you are qell. Day off today. Had Shakshuka for breaky – puurfectly spiced. 🙂

  190. Arky

    Maybe

    ..
    No maybe about it.
    It will bite you on the arse.
    And when it does you will blubber about “Trying to do some good”.

  191. mh

    Haven’t got through all this yet, but very informative.

    Infowars Reporter Sits Down With Mainstream Hong Kong Journo To Discuss ChiCom Threat

  192. mh

    Qatar Still to Confirm Israeli Soccer Fans Can Attend 2022 World Cup

    The Isla mic monarchy of Qatar is yet to confirm Israeli football fans will be welcomed into the country for the FIFA World Cup in 2022…

    https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2019/09/01/qatar-still-to-confirm-israeli-soccer-fans-can-attend-2022-world-cup/#

  193. Beertruk

    From the Oz:
    Fact-checking Q&A
    Tony Jones host of ABC current affairs program Q&A.

    NICK TABAKOFF
    ASSOCIATE EDITOR

    9:42PM SEPTEMBER 1, 2019
    154 COMMENTS
    Throwaway comments made by Q&A host Tony Jones on the show about the ratings of Sky News After Dark are now the subject of a two-page correction request made by Sky to the ABC.

    The letter follows remarks made by Jones on last Monday’s Q&A, in response to a comment made by shadow immigration minister Kristina Keneally that the Sky After Dark platform was “growing in Australia”.

    Jones interjected: “It’s growing to a very small audience, to be fair. You’re probably talking about 5,000 people watching at that time…They can correct me on that. That’s a fact check you can do, Sky.”

    It will be no surprise to learn Sky indeed fact-checked Jones’s comments, on Friday firing off a letter to the Q&A host that CC’d four of the ABC’s top brass, including chair Ita Buttrose and MD David Anderson.

    Sky News boss Paul Whittaker says in the letter that Jones was wrong: Sky’s average viewership between 6pm and 10pm on Foxtel alone, Whittaker says, was, at 43,921, “more than eight times higher than the number referenced on the Q&A program”. It also receives a further 20,906 viewer average on its regional Sky News on WIN service, Whittaker says, making it a total of “12 times” Jones’s estimate.

    Whittaker has called on Jones to personally make an on-air correction on tomorrow night’s show, citing the ABC’s stated commitment to “accuracy” and a “willingness to correct errors and clarify ambiguous or otherwise misleading information”.

    The Sky boss even offers a proposed script which invites Jones to utter three words: “I was wrong.”

    Will Jones take Whittaker up on his invitation? All will be revealed tomorrow night.

    Read Nick Tabakoff’s full Media Diary tomorrow in the paper and online.

  194. Arky

    “I’m largely motivated by the little girl. I’d like to see her go to a decent school and learn English”
    ..
    What you are learning her is that it’s a good idea to find foolish old geezers and whisper lies in their hairy disgusting ears.

  195. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I’d like to see her go to a decent school and learn English.

    Visiting Cambodia, a few years ago, the cycle went like this. The only jobs available were in the tourism industry. You had to be able to speak English to work in that industry, which you had to have learned at school. The Cambodian education system mandated the wearing of school uniform, to attend school.

    One Cambodian school uniform set you back twenty dollars Australian…

  196. Cassie of Sydney

    “Ellie
    #3145841, posted on September 2, 2019 at 12:13 pm
    Hi Cassie. Hope you are qell. Day off today. Had Shakshuka for breaky – puurfectly spiced. 🙂”

    All good honey…love Shakshuka! Perfect brekkie.

  197. John Constantine

    NSW corruption commission suggests that the political orc in the dock is just making things up, to protect the big chicom billionaire property developer that donated so generously.

    This is australia, so nobody will ever ask what crony deals were offered to get the donations from the billionaire .

    Australias political class has refused to build big australia as a meritocracy, our elites vision of big australia is for millions of people from the worlds most corrupt countries to crushload australias cities with convoys of proles that expect to have to pay bribes to deal with officials.

    Comrade aldi-bag Maaaaaates.

  198. feelthebern

    Shakshuka

    What a way to spoil some perfectly good eggs.
    The chickens would be disappointed that all their hard work went to waste.

  199. Leigh Lowe

    Sinclair Davidson

    #3145798, posted on September 2, 2019 at 11:12 am

    Are we all grumpy because it’s Monday?

    It’s not Monday in Alberqueque.

  200. DrBeauGan

    Find a school.
    Pay the school fees direct.
    This bird sounds like a selfish b*tch.

    I’ve met far worse. And she really loves her daughter. She’s not the most competent woman, and her culture is very little inclined to thinking and planning, so she might well spend the money in ways I’d think stupid or frivolous, but that always happens when you give money to people. Cuba is a much cheaper place to live than anywhere else I’ve been, so effectively I’m leveraging my money many times over.

    Arky’s picture of me blubbing at some point just shows how little he understands people in general and me in particular.

  201. Arky

    I understand that you are an evil old man corrupting people who would be better off in the long run if you left them alone.

  202. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Hey, I am not grumpy either. I am happy. Meeting friends for lunch. Getting some tradies’ quotes on new windows this arvo. And it is a very fine day in Sydney. Just did a Coles shop. Gave all my little reward plastic token toys to the lady behind me in the queue. She collects them and was thrilled. Small things to bring such joy in others.
    Have a great day off, Ellie.

  203. DrBeauGan

    One Cambodian school uniform set you back twenty dollars Australian…

    I’ve contributed rather more than that to Diaboli’s uniform. But yes, the Cuban situation is similar.

  204. Black Ball

    An event in Bendigo worth attending. Men’s Lunch at the Bendigo Stadium with proceeds going to the prevention of prostate cancer and research. Guest speakers include Mark Maclure and Barry Breen. Head online for more details.

  205. Mother Lode

    A security source said on Saturday that a civilian was wounded when booby-trapped cows exploded

    That’s terribull. Worse, it’s a-bomb-in-a-bull.

    Are the high velocity fragments of a bull whizzing through the air considered ‘bullets’?

  206. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Lefty and I supported a family in Sri Lanka during hard times there when we returned to Australia. He had helped Lefty with some information regularly and his two daughters were lovely young women who had no dowry. Our interest and our money helped to raise them that little in the world so that they could at least marry without taking a very second best.

  207. DrBeauGan

    I understand that you are an evil old man corrupting people who would be better off in the long run if you left them alone.

    That sets my mind at rest about declining to fund your car renovation, Arky.

  208. C.L.

    Victoria’s strange, perversely illogical courts …
    Justice for Eurydice Dixon: Sexual sadist who raped and murdered aspiring comedian, 22, in a Melbourne park sentenced to life imprisonment.

    Jaymes Todd, 20, followed Ms Dixon, 22, for more than an hour before he attacked her as she walked through Princes Park in Carlton North on her way home from a comedy gig on June 12 last year.

    Her body was found less than a kilometre away from her home.

    Todd was sentenced to life behind bars with a non-parole period of 35 years on Monday morning.

    So he’ll be out at 55.

    ‘You waited until she was in the darkest reaches of the park … the sheer terror … is unimaginable,’ Judge Kaye said.

    ‘Her last moments on this earth must have been utterly horrifying for her…’

    Before the murder, Todd fantasised about violent non-consensual sex culminating in a woman’s death, Victoria’s Supreme Court was earlier told…

    Justice Kaye had previously indicated he would consider sentencing Todd to life without parole, if he found the man had premeditated the murder.

    How Justice Kaye concluded that Todd didn’t commit a premeditated murder is utterly beyond me.

  209. Arky

    No, send me money.
    I’m already old and corrupted!

  210. C.L.

    Oh hang on.
    The sentence was life without parole.
    Is that right?

  211. pete m

    Dr bg, nice sentiment but get some legal advice back in oz when you return.

    People who have been maintained by a deceased become entitled to claim on their estate is just one complication you might not be aware of. Others include family law advice on de facto law as it can get quite wide.

    Money transfers to Cuba will not be easy either

    Best of luck to you.

  212. Arky

    Cough.
    Bleuuuuraghhh.
    Old man ear wax. Disgusting.

  213. duncanm

    1735099
    #3145749, posted on September 2, 2019 at 9:20 am
    If the travel warnings were fair dinkum, they’d have the USA as a “consider your need to travel” destination, given the Australians who have been shot there recently.
    AFAIK, no Aussies have been shot and killed in say, Iran, Colombia or Pakistan, recently.

    yet again, numbers is no good with numbers.
    https://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/[email protected]/lookup/3401.0Media%20Release1Jun%202019

    Residents returning to Aus by destination
    * USA : 1.08M
    * Pakistan: 42k
    * Iran & Colombia so far down on the list there’s no stats presented.

  214. Percy Popinjay

    On weekdays, during school hours, she can be a ‘regular Australian girl’.

    Who’s forced to get around in a m00zley headbag.

  215. Some History

    My Asperger’s is a superpower: Thunberg

    Greta, or someone from her camp, refers to it as aspiepower.

  216. notafan

    I think you were right the first time CL

    certainly appears premeditated to me but judges judge subjectively these days it seems

    I can’t see Todd giving up those fantasies in thirty five years

  217. notafan

    Todd has been diagnosed with Sexual Sadism Disorder

    if is is a disorder why isn’t he in a hospital for the crimally insane?

    Sexual Sadism Disorder

  218. bespoke

    Arky, you don’t have boobs

    Yes he does but only one.

  219. Percy Popinjay

    Before I started school striking I had no energy, no friends and I didn’t speak to anyone. I just sat alone at home, with an eating disorder.

    There is no more signal example of how staggeringly stupid and pathetic we have become in the West than the fact that anyone with an allegedly functioning brain would pay any attention whatsoever to that useless ignorant child.

    Delingpole had her measure and lays into the cynical dirtbags who are attempting to use the silly bint for their own society wrecking ends.

    a child who hasn’t finished her schooling, whose frontal lobes haven’t formed, who has no sense of humour, whose every utterance is the second-hand opinion of alarmist grown-ups whose doomsday claims she is completely unequipped to assess

    And he’s just getting started.

  220. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    People who have been maintained by a deceased become entitled to claim on their estate is just one complication you might not be aware of

    Second that one.

  221. Arky

    Had two colleagues in recent months, one in their sixties, the other in their seventies, who kept working on past the normal retirement age for the job, planning big plans for the eventual wealthy life of leisure with their spouses with the extra savings.
    One’s husband died in a crash, and the other retired to a wife who immediately got cancer and died yesterday.
    Are you busy saving for a future that might not exist?

  222. Knuckle Dragger

    OK.

    I had a cow-based knock knock joke.

    I am completely outgunned and will retire from this field of battle.

    For the moment.

  223. feelthebern

    The Hadron Collider will ensure we don’t get to 2030.
    Can’t believe that thing got council approval.
    Must have been a few Aldi shopping bags involved.

  224. Some History

    Oh no

    What is “Aspie Power”?

    “Aspie”, is a slang term used to refer to someone with Asperger’s Syndrome. Aspergers was a diagnosis adopted in the 1980’s to describe someone on the high functioning side of the Autism Spectrum. We essentially have Autism’s extreme sensitivity, fast visual minds, fixation on patterns, compulsive behaviors, and social and communication challenges, but we’re fully verbal and able to function as independent adults.
    Recently the diagnosis “Aspergers” was abandoned and we were all re-diagnosed as just having Autism. At first I was mad about this. I wanted to be clearly differentiated from my nonverbal Autistic brothers and sisters. But now I’m proud to be officially part of the Autism community, and I want to overtly recognize that the skills and challenges Autistic people possess differ only by degree. It is a “spectrum”, as they say. And I can now say that I am proud to be on it. And so I am adopting the term “Aspie” to refer to any person on the Autism Spectrum.
    “Power”, I learned in 10th grade Government class, is defined as “the ability of one person to get another person to serve the will of the first person.” To me, I widen this definition to just mean the ability to create, to make change, to influence the world. Those of us with “disabilities” (much like other disenfranchised groups) are often seen to have less power. Our current society’s dominant groups and systems overtly disempower us through discriminatory words, actions, laws, and media images. Throughout history these minority groups have organized to combat this discrimination and reclaim their political and cultural rights. So consider “Aspie Power” the Autistic person’s equivalent of “Black Power,” “Women’s Empowerment,” and “Gay Pride.”
    This empowerment starts in the hearts and minds of every Aspie. We first have to combat the engrained belief that we are broken, inferior, freakish or disabled. As Temple Grandin’s mother told her as a child, we are “different, not less”. We must embrace and celebrate our identity in order to fully harness the special gifts and talents that have much to offer the world. I believe this mental shift will lead us to highly fulfilling relationships, careers, and lifestyles.
    I want to be careful to acknowledge that I don’t believe Aspies are superior. When I say I believe we have “super powers”, I in no way want to imply that other people don’t. I am clear that everyone has unique gifts to this world and I’ve spent an enormous part of my life cultivating those powers in all different kinds of people. I want only for Aspies to take their rightful place along side other powerful people. And to see us harness our unique gifts to create the lives, and world, we want.

    There’s more… RTWT

    http://www.aspiepower.com/about-aspie-power/

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