Open Forum: August 31, 2019

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  1. Percy Popinjay

    One’s husband died in a crash, and the other retired to a wife who immediately got cancer and died yesterday.

    Nothing like hearing from this site’s resident eternal optimist.

  2. notafan

    from first things

    Scruffy and stocky, he enters every room with backslapping joviality; she is elegant and willowy, and impresses visitors with an air of mysterious reserve. He has nimbly climbed the rungs of the establishment; she has spent most of her political career under house arrest. He is known for surreal digressions about table tennis and being “reincarnated as an olive”; she, for solemn words about democracy and human rights. Nevertheless, there is a striking resemblance between Boris Johnson and Aung San Suu Kyi.

    AN ERA OF CHAMELEONS

  3. Arky

    Nothing like hearing from this site’s resident eternal optimist.

    ..
    Just reminding people to plan for all eventualities.
    Take some of those savings and have some goddamn fun today.

  4. Dr Faustus

    There is no more signal example of how staggeringly stupid and pathetic we have become in the West than the fact that anyone with an allegedly functioning brain would pay any attention whatsoever to that useless ignorant child.

    Chauncey Gardiner.
    There is no point in being outrageously outraged at the child herself.

  5. notafan

    Harvey is not an idiot

    he pushed for the GST level playing field because it was in his shareholder and employees interests and he is pushing against the sjws because it is in his shareholder and employees best interests

    good on him

  6. duncanm

    Delingpole had her measure and lays into the cynical dirtbags who are attempting to use the silly bint for their own society wrecking ends.

    Thanks for the tip, Percy.

    Delingpole certainly has a way with words:

    Sure, girls have a place in this universe: as decoration and objects of lust.

  7. notafan

    Scott Morrison will not intervene to stop a Tamil family being deported from Australia, saying an “exception here or there” would only kick-start the people-smuggling trade.

    The Prime Minister said today that he would never make any decision that could possibly be seen as a message to other asylum seekers who think they could settle in Australia via boats.

    He has been under increasing pressure from Labor, former Nationals MP Barnaby Joyce and Sydney radio star Alan Jones to let a Tamil family of four to stay in the country.

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    MISSING BACKPACKER
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    On Monday, Mr Morrison said his period as Immigration Minister meant he could not “in good conscience” allow the family to stay since they came by boat and have been found not to be refugees.

    “I know what happens when people think it’s OK to make an exception here or there,” he said in Western Sydney.

    “I remember what happened. I remember the deaths.

    “I remember those terrible images and I will not never allow that to happen again if it’s within my power and where it’s within my power, they are the decisions my Government takes.”

    Priya and Nadesalingam, who arrived by boat separately as asylum-seekers in 2012 and 2013, were last night in a small, air conditioned cabin next to the Christmas Island public pool and sports oval with their Australian-born children Kopika, 4, and Tharunicaa, 2.

    The family’s detention has seen protests across the country led by senior Labor figures and the regional Queensland town of Biloela, where the family have been living for the past five years.

    Mr Morrison said he understood the public mood, but would not change his mind. He also welcomed the family to make an application to return to Australia via the proper channels from Sri Lanka.

    “I do understand the real feeling about this and the desire for there to be an exception but I know what the consequences are of allowing those exceptions,” he said.

    “They can return to Sri Lanka and they can make an application to come to Australia under the same processes as everyone else, anywhere else in the world. And I would hope they do. I would hope they do.

    “But they didn’t come to the country in the appropriate way. They have not been found to have an asylum claim.

    “And to have changed our policy on this or to exercise intervention powers on this would be to send exactly the wrong message to those who are looking to sell tickets to vulnerable people looking to get on boats, it would send them the exact wrong message and that’s not something that I in good conscious can allow to happen and nor can my ministers.”

    Dutton: Why family can’t stay

    Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton has stared down “refugee advocates and Labor opportunists” he claims are spreading falsehoods about a Sri Lankan family held on Christmas Island, as their lawyer vows to keep fighting in the courts to keep them in Australia.

    Priya and Nadesalingam, who arrived by boat separately as asylum-seekers in 2012 and 2013, were last night in a small, air conditioned cabin next to the Christmas Island public pool and sports oval with their Australian-born children Kopika, 4, and Tharunicaa, 2.

    They were the only occupants of a once-crowded asylum-seeker camp on Christmas Island yesterday as thousands rallied around Australia for their return to the mainland. Carina Ford, the family’s Melbourne-based solicitor, is due in the Federal Circuit Court today and Federal Court on Wednesday in regards to the family’s possible deportation.

    MORE: Sixth asylum bid halted | Island reopened for Tamil family

    Writing in Brisbane’s Courier Mail today, Mr Dutton said the family had to go back to Sri Lanka and had been denied refugee status by various courts in Australia.

    “The case of the family from Sri Lanka is also a complex case and has attracted a lot of media attention with many false claims by refugee advocates and Labor opportunists,” he wrote.

    “Labor initially put them into detention and they were told all those years ago that, on the details they provided, they were not refugees under the UN definition so they would have to go home.

    “They were told that they would never settle permanently in Australia, just like many others who arrived by boat. They never accepted that decision.”

    Mr Dutton and Scott Morrison now face pressure from the regional Queensland town in which the family has laid down roots, from Labor and even from Sydney radio star Alan Jones to intervene and keep them in the country.

    Former Nationals leader Barnaby Joyce reiterated his support for the Tamil family this morning and said Mr Dutton should save them from deportation.

    “Time has moved on … I hate going against Peter Dutton at times, but I think this is one of the special circumstances,” he told the Seven Network.

    “They are part of the community and these are issues which we should take into consideration.”

    “They’re Australians”

    Coalition MP @Barnaby_Joyce says the government should allow the Tamil family to stay in Biloela. pic.twitter.com/uF9xjaN1Sf

    — Sunrise (@sunriseon7) September 1, 2019
    Labor frontbencher Joel Fitzgibbon called for the family to stay, despite the consequences it could have for other asylum seeker family claims.

    “The discretion is a discretion. It doesn’t create a legal precedent,” he told Seven News.

    “It might put Peter Dutton under some more pressure somewhere down the track with a similar case or if other cases emerge, but that is why he is paid the big bucks.”

    The Home Affairs Minister wrote in the Courier Mail today that keeping the family here could signal a weakening in Australia’s border protection policy and that he was focused on providing for families who have been found to be genuine refugees.

    “It’s not that this family or those in the 68 million figure are unworthy or not sincere in their desire to live in Australia. The reality is our Government, with the support of the majority of Australians, has taken tough decisions over a number of years now to keep our borders secure and people off boats,” he wrote.

    “At the same time we have brought refugees in who, in many cases faced imminent death or persecution, and their cases are much more compelling than those who are not refugees but simply want a stronger financial future for their families.

    “The other reality is that we have a cap of 18750 refugee places each year and we take those most in need.”

    The family’s lawyer Carina Ford today disputed Mr Dutton’s opinion piece and said the courts could not fully assess the family’s refugee status because their youngest daughter had not been born at the time.

    “The media attention that has been brought on them has changed the way they should be assessed,” she told ABC radio.

    “With the youngest child, we believe she has the right to have her claims considered, since we are still a signatory to the UN convention.

    “The power to intervene in all sorts of cases … you still can have an exceptional case.

    “The Australian community cares about this story, cares about this family.”

  8. notafan

    “With the youngest child, we believe she has the right to have her claims considered, since we are still a signatory to the UN convention.

    Clutching at a paper straw

  9. stackja

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  10. feelthebern

    If only these Tamils had a pro bono advocate to save the day.

  11. Top Ender

    Before I started virtue signalling I had no energy, no friends and I didn’t speak to anyone. I just sat alone at home, with an idea I was a total loser.

  12. stackja

    Will Hurricane Dorian reach NYC? Flood NYC? Will GT have to be evacuated by air?

  13. bespoke

    feelthebern
    #3145898, posted on September 2, 2019 at 1:45 pm
    If only these Tamils had a pro bono advocate to save the day.

    😁

  14. Leigh Lowe

    I am starting to get nervous about Hurricane Dorian mucking up my stay in Asbury Park.

  15. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    If only these Tamils had a pro bono advocate to save the day.

    They wouldn’t be able to return to Sri Lanka quickly enough.

  16. feelthebern

    When a pro bono advocate comes along,
    With the strength to carry on…

  17. notafan

    I am starting to get nervous about Hurricane Dorian mucking up my stay in Asbury Park.

    KKK is Nobody’s Girl and LL is Everywhere Man

  18. feelthebern

    Remember to make up stories regarding your tipping Leigh, so you can regale the Cat with such entertaining stories on your return.

  19. Some History

    Greta’s full name for the purpose of formal Gang Greenatification

    Greta Tintin Eleonora Ernman Thunberg

  20. notafan

    Don’t wait til you come back LL

    start making up stories now

    especially if they put you in a generous selfless heroic light

  21. Knuckle Dragger

    I note that nowhere in Mr David Murray’s potentially Walkley-winning magnum opus is it mentioned that the Tamils lied till their pants caught fire on their applications.

  22. Knuckle Dragger

    I also trust that Superaspie works out that she developed friends and could suddenly speak and go outside the exact second Mummy and Daddy could see dollar signs floating all around her.

    You know, the same way she ‘sees’ carbon.

  23. Ellie

    Ellie, just in case you missed this

    Gold!

    Steve trickler, thank you honey bun. That was awesome!

  24. Knuckle Dragger

    LL.

    I for one will not be satisfied until you’re invited to a range and get to yip your way through 2000 rounds of free ammo.

    Using an AK47. You know, the same the ones you trained with in Vie………

    Samoa.

  25. feelthebern

    Does one lock & load an AK47?

  26. feelthebern

    That’s a genuine question.

  27. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    That’s a genuine question.

    Not in my limited experience with one, “Lock and load” is an Americanism.

  28. notafan

    Seems there is a theme and the theme is we was all tamil tigers and in fear of our lifeses

    Why champion one family and forget all the failed others?

    someone is funding an enormous amount of unsuccessful litigation

    austlii cases involving the words ‘sri lanka’ and ‘tamil’

  29. Leigh Lowe

    Using an AK47. You know, the same the ones you trained with in Vie………

    Or my semi-auto MX5?

  30. notafan

    Or my semi-auto MX5?

    You only have one MX5?

    you must be a poor person

  31. stackja

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  32. feelthebern

    A females perspective of the MX5.

  33. Steve trickler

    Was just about to post a counterpoint to the soph video above. A Jesse Lee Peterson interview clearly establishing that she can think for herself.

    Gooooooolag have zapped it.

  34. bespoke

    A females perspective of the MX5.

    Ask Arky.

  35. pete m

    I’ve been visiting the Grand Bahamas last few days on my world tour of islands and didn’t want to brag. Weather has been great – sunny days and gentle breezes. The people are exceedingly polite and love running errands for just a few americanos.

    It was quiet yesterday – not so many tourists around and people gave me strange looks when I went out for a surf.

    Anyway, today decided to stay in my hotel room, but cannot get room service, so a bit of a bummer. Thankfully my sat net connections till works and the media apparently are loving my short videos of the locals dealing with a little rain and wind.

    Will have to go – really hungry and still no answer at reception. Thinking about a poor trip advisor rating but really they have been so nice so far would be a shame.

    Next I’m off to southern Georgia for a scuba diving expedition.

  36. Roger

    Seems there is a theme and the theme is we was all tamil tigers and in fear of our lifeses

    Australia should in principle not grant refuge to anyone suspected of being a member of the Tamil Tigers.

    They were widely designated as a terrorist group, including by the US, Canada & the EU, and individual members could well have been involved in crimes against humanity.

  37. Knuckle Dragger

    90s car reviews.

    By chicks wearing jeans that high you could hook your bra into them.

    If you were a chick. Someone should put up an MX5 blog somewhere.

  38. notafan

    Roger is is indeed bizarre that people are claiming to have been terrorists in order to qualify for asylum

    I suppose in a few years time another select group will be claiming to be (unwilling) members of IS

  39. Arky

    A females perspective of the MX5.

    Ask Arky.
    ..

    Let’s put this myth to rest once and for all: The MX5 is not just a girl’s car. I get tonnes of admiring looks from dudes when I drive mine down Chapel Street Windsor.

  40. stackja

    pete m
    #3145930, posted on September 2, 2019 at 2:40 pm

    Dorian to target Georgia, Carolina coasts after it veers dangerously close to Florida
    By Alex Sosnowski, AccuWeather senior meteorologist

    With an inland push across the Florida Peninsula now unlikely, the risks of damage related to wind, coastal flooding and rainfall will increase in parts of Georgia and the Carolinas from dangerous Hurricane Dorian later this week.

    Changing conditions surrounding Dorian, most notably a pair of non-tropical storms from the Midwest, will pull on the hurricane in such a way to allow it to track along the Georgia and Carolina coasts.

  41. notafan

    Isn’t the Grand Bahamas already enjoying Dorian?

  42. Johno

    I know what” lock and load” means,’cos I looked it up.
    Lock and load” refers to “the procedure used for readying an empty M1 Garand for action, . In order to prepare the weapon for firing, the bolt must first be ‘locked’ back to the rear so that the en bloc clip can be ‘loaded’ into the fixed magazine.

    This has absolutely no relevance to an SLR, Armalite or M60. These were weapons Aussies used in SVN.

    Can this be entered into sniffys’ blackboard of shame. Thank you.

  43. Knuckle Dragger

    Why is the guy in Sinc’s link firing that thing with a bayonet swung out? Is he in mortal danger of sandbags?

    Good to see his standing stance is the best possible one to separate his shoulder too.

  44. feelthebern

    Johno, with a logical, straight forward manner like that, you would make a good pro bono advocate.

  45. feelthebern

    The Cat banner has taken a darker turn.

  46. Johno

    Lean into it son, you lean backwards and that bloody thing will put you on your arse.

  47. None

    Trade war threat to unis

    If Chinese stop studying in Australia, the blow to university funding would be devastating.

    in what sense. You still get funded per student and frankly in my experience most Chinese students drag the overall standards down.

  48. None

    someone is funding an enormous amount of unsuccessful litigation

    Certainly looks like it, doesn’t it, Nota.

  49. None

    None’s dating tips for young women #12333
    If he drives an MX5 , don’t.

  50. Johno

    Yes Bern I think I would do well at that stuff. You know I was thinking about the fact we have 2 genders, but you can identify how you want. This led me to think that Sniffy is a lezbeon. It reckons it likes sheilas, but it is evident that he is not a man. So logic leads me to conclude that it hankers for sheila to sheila stuff. In its’ case I think this misfunction is made more badder by lezbonic dementia. Logic, what can’t it do?

  51. stackja

    The Latest: Dorian continues to pounds northern Bahamas
    an hour ago

    MIAMI (AP) — The Latest on Hurricane Dorian (all times local):

    11:15 p.m.

    The National Hurricane Center has extended hurricane and storm surge watches northward in Florida to the Georgia state line as Hurricane Dorian continues to pound the northern Bahamas.

    As of 11 p.m. Sunday, the hurricane had weakened slightly, with top sustained winds down to 180 mph (285 kph). The storm remains a Category 5 and Dorian is “expected to remain a powerful hurricane” over the next few days, with possible fluctuations in intensity.

    Dorian is centered around 55 miles (90 kilometers) east of Freeport on Grand Bahama Island and 135 miles (220 kilometers) east of West Palm Beach, Florida. It’s moving westward at 6 mph (9 kph).

  52. feelthebern

    none, international students pay full freight up front.
    That’s why one of the vice chancellors at Sydney Uni drives a Ferrari.

  53. Mother Lode

    “With the youngest child, we believe she has the right to have her claims considered, since we are still a signatory to the UN convention.

    They have had their claim heard repeatedly.

    It seems all the usual suspects consider that the various courts and tribunals should start from slobbering out copious warm-fuzzy permissions to stay – and then scour the law to find the mechanism to allow it.

    And as for being signatories of the UN convention, that means we accept its definition by which they are not refugees.

  54. feelthebern

    numbers definitely lacks testosterone these days.
    He must have left a bit of it over there when he started his Viet family.

  55. The Beer Whisperer

    Greta, or someone from her camp, refers to it as aspiepower.

    Anyone who thinks being born with aspergers is powerful is demented.

    Unless they can channel it into something meaningful with substantial help, it’s a very difficult life. The usual societal forces are beyond the capability of Aspergers’ sufferers generally.

  56. None

    A former colleague had an adult son with Aspergers. He periodically had to leave work urgently to go home and stop his son beating up his wife.

  57. notafan

    found one case

    The Interview was conducted by telephone. The Appellant, an Anglicare caseworker (the ‘Caseworker’), and Ms Rhonda Western of MDA Ltd were located in Biloela, Queensland. The Minister’s delegate and an interpreter were located in Brisbane. And the Appellant’s migration agent, Mr Nick Adler of Playfair Migration (the ‘Migration Agent’), was located in Sydney. The Interview was conducted by telephone because the Appellant was eight months pregnant at the time and was unable to travel from her residence to Brisbane. There is no suggestion that the Appellant or her representatives requested an adjournment or postponement of the Interview. At the time, no complaint was made about the way in which the Interview was conducted save for some initial difficulties with the interpreter.

  58. None

    none, international students pay full freight up front.
    That’s why one of the vice chancellors at Sydney Uni drives a Ferrari.

    yes I know they pay full fees and yes I know that the vc’s on the whole are mostly f****** money hungry grubs who couldn’t give to f****** hoots about tertiary education or research. It will make no difference if they drove a VW or a Ferrari.

  59. Mother Lode

    Trade war threat to unis

    If Chinese stop studying in Australia, the blow to university funding would be devastating.

    Well, that’s torn it.

    Forget employment. Forget intellectual property. Forget interference in out politics and society.

    Nothing must be allowed to ensquishy the bowels of our unis.

  60. Mother Lode

    That’s why one of the vice chancellors at Sydney Uni drives a Ferrari.

    I assumed it was because Nissan, Mitsubishi, Toyota, Ford, Volks Wagon etc didn’t want their brands tarnished by association with a Vice Chancellor.

  61. notafan

    Lived in India from 2001 til 2013 when she got on a boat for Australia and an earlier one

  62. Steve trickler

    She’ll face tough questions in the future. Damaging to her mind. You can’t be be shielded forever.



  63. feelthebern

    If I had a Ferrari, this is how I would drive it.

  64. John Constantine

    Now that australia has lost the industrial capacity to wash dirt out of wool, the Tyrant for life of the chicoms can squeeze as hard as he fancies as the near monopoly buyer of australian wool.

    The slowing of the price decline and the more hopeful tone witnessed last week at the Australian wool auctions dissipated entirely this week. Heavy falls were the again dominating sale results. All wool types and descriptions, except the crossbred sector, experienced abnormally large losses,

    Around 20.7% or 6,600 bales of the original rostered Australian quantity was withdrawn and subsequently 33.4% or 8,440 bales was passed in. In total 47.2% or just over 15,000 bales of the scheduled volume for the week has not flowed through the supply chain.

    Not surprising, the pre-sale sentiment was abysmal this week. Unanimous thoughts centred around the degradation of sentiment caused by the continuing variety of negative factors effecting the global economy in general and not specific to wool. Purchasing confidence had been eliminated with the talks on renewed tariff rises, the Brexit shambles and inverted bond yields potentially causing harm to intended spending by consumers. All the above issues are definite causative factors, but perhaps the most telling and repeated commentary coming out of all trade sectors is that no-one can really place firm reasoning on why the wool market has reacted so sharply.

    For perhaps six months, the trade was already operating to the reduced demand that had been evidenced as far back as the last quarter of last year. A reduced price was largely factored in as likely, but the magnitude of what has occurred over the past three weeks is completely out of the thinking or predictions of nearly all, if not all.

    Reduced demand from the Chinese consumer is now being looked at as perhaps a reason that could help understand the falls. As 75% of the Australian wool clip flows into China for manufacturing, the past few years has seen demand drive up the domestic consumption within China to see 60% of that volume remaining in that country for sale. Just 10 years or so ago, almost 100% of the same 75% of Australian was manufactured in China but re exported for sale in mainly the Northern hemisphere markets.

    Recent Chinese retail data is generally hard to come by in normal circumstances, but since the trade imbalance dispute between the US and China commenced, that data has become scarcer. Bearing in mind that the majority of the 400ac devaluation of wool has occurred in just two months, some factor of significance has prompted such a negative result.

  65. Dr Faustus

    In Spontaneous Chinese Cash Donations to the NSW ALP news:

    Icac also heard of a separate instance of receiving a bag of cash. Wong said he was having lunch at the Emperor’s Garden restaurant in Sydney.

    An employee of Jonathan Yee, the managing director of the restaurant, gave him a bag of money. The employee’s name was something like “Theresa”, he said, and she said she wanted to support the Labor party.

    Bit of a bastard when you can’t even have lunch without strangers stuffing cash into your hands.
    Personally, I hate it.

  66. Tom

    Thanks to whoever posted Delingpole’s Greta Thunberg – Patron Saint of the Age of Stupidity about the childish hysteria that, among other things, has put her on the cover of GQ magazine:

    Call me naive but I thought the point of men’s magazines was to write about stuff that men might find interesting: dodging snipers’ bullets in war zones; free-diving with great white sharks; playing Scrabble with the Medellin cartel; where to track down the coolest leather jacket under £1,000; strafing a remote baboon colony in a Mig-25 Foxbat; the quest for the world’s purest MDMA.

    To appreciate just how irrational it all is, consider, by way of a thought experiment, if a 16-year-old autistic kid with pigtails just as fetching as St Greta’s were to organise a global school walkout in protest at mass immigration; or the oppression of women in the Middle East; or the destruction of rainforest to grow palm oil to make biofuels; or the devastation caused by wind energy to birds and bats; or China’s abuse of Hong Kong.

    RTWT. Marvellous.

  67. Zyconoclast

    Excruciatingly generous’: UTS ATAR discount for women so patronising

    In an effort to reduce the gender imbalance within engineering, the University of Technology Sydney will reduce its ATAR requirement by 10 points for female students.

    UTS director of women in engineering and IT Dr Arti Agarwal explained “nobody [would be] getting a free pass” and that once admitted to the course women would have to meet all its requirements.

    Civil engineer and Victorian general manager of Engineers Australia Alesha Printz said it would send a message to women that they were welcome in the field. The 10-point adjustment was recently approved by the NSW Anti-Discrimination Board.

  68. johanna

    Faculty at a Kansas university are furious about Chik-fil-A being on campus.

    Part of their manifesto reads:

    Despite our denouncements and the university’s own moves to increase the campus’s diversity, equity, and inclusion, KU granted Chick-fil-A, a bastion of bigotry, a prime retail location in the heart of our campus. The Union houses spaces that the KU community designates as safe and accepting—not least of which are the Office of Multicultural Affairs and the Center for Sexual & Gender Diversity. When the Memorial Union was first built, it featured segregated dining facilities. Over the past few decades, however, the building has become a crucial part of student life, accommodating dozens of student organizations and offices—all functioning to create an environment of academic, cultural, political, and social engagement for all KU students, staff and faculty, as well as numerous visitors to our campus. The Union was one of the first places on campus to incorporate gender inclusive bathrooms for the comfort and validation of the experiences and range of identities of the people who walk our halls. The arrival of Chick-fil-A in this building is insulting, counterproductive, and unacceptable.

    There is no such word as ‘denouncements.’ The word they are looking for is ‘denunciations.’ And, it doesn’t fit in the sentence.

    I don’t know what this ‘university’ is charging students, but when dozens of staff put out an illiterate statement, and nobody noticed, perhaps student dollars would be better spent elsewhere.

  69. Arky

    Now that australia has lost the industrial capacity to wash dirt out of wool, the Tyrant for life of the chicoms can squeeze as hard as he fancies

    ..
    Found that “comparative advantage” yet, free market autists?

  70. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘this is how I’d drive it’

    They’d find mine in a culvert, with two wheels gone and on fire on a corrugated dirt road between Darwin and Gove.

    They’d also find the downdraft marks from the chopper that picked me up and took me to the dealer to get another one.

    #80mill

    #thatsmysuper

  71. John Constantine

    Reports of large amounts of South African wool, technically purchased at high prices earlier this year, but sitting in storage unpaid for and undelivered after the Tyrant banned South African wool imports on quarantine grounds.

    Following weeks of the South African auctions being cancelled, the industry over there has decided to resume their wool sales next week. Their has been no change to the health certificates requirements for delivery to China, but the RSA industry decision means growers can get paid if they decide to sell. With their last auction held almost 3 months ago, price shock may be the order of the day for sellers in that nation

    Saffirs running out of cash as they simply had no way to sell their production [ except black market smuggling.]

    Calls to shut down australian wool auctions and halt cashflow send shudders down australian producers spines.

    The wool market has plummeted a massive 163 cents per kilogram to finish at 1,513 cents per kilogram this week prompting an industry leader to call for a halt to trading.

    It was the biggest weekly fall the market has endured in more than a decade.

    Australian Wool Innovation chief executive Stuart McCullough said the fall in the Eastern Market Indicator this week was shocking, with the EMI now 603 cents below the same time last year.

    “If a stock market was falling like that, they would shut the market down,” Mr McCullough said.

    “There needs to be some sort of mechanism or some sort of emergency strategy that we instigate around the sale of wool when there’s a situation like that. It’s probably worth considering.”

    Halting wool auctions would see capitulation as graziers sold their flocks down for slaughter and cashflow.

  72. stackja

    John Constantine
    #3145969, posted on September 2, 2019 at 3:42 pm

    Trusting Red China. What could possibly go wrong?

  73. Knuckle Dragger

    My God, Delingpole’s good.

    Delingpole.

    De la Pole?

  74. notafan

    The other standard ground for Sri Lankans seeking asylum is I left Sri Lanka from a place other than an approved point of departure which is against the law therefore I might get into trouble if I go back to Sri Lanka therefore I should be allowed to stay in Australia.

    Even though no one has ever actually been charged with doing this it still might happen and that would be bad.

  75. notafan

    Don’t the Chinese also lose if they don’t buy and manufacture wool to sell to Europeans?

    About time someone cut out the middle man

  76. stackja

    Former MP says he was handed bag of cash before Labor fundraiser

    Former Labor MP Ernest Wong told an ICAC inquiry Chinese billionaire Huang Xiangmo brought home a bag of cash from a Labor fundraising dinner allegedly containing tens of thousands of dollars while he brought home a separate bag containing political disclosure forms.
    Clarissa Bye, Danielle Le Messurier, The Daily Telegraph
    Subscriber only

    an hour ago

    Former Labor MP Ernest Wong has told the ICAC he was handed a “big bag” of cash several days before a Labor fundraising dinner.

    Mr Wong is in the spotlight again today after being told to spend the weekend “carefully considering” how truthful his answers were last week.

    He was cautioned numerous times on Friday against giving “false evidence”, warned about “evasive conduct”, and not to “obfuscate” or “misdirect” his answers, during a grilling about an ALP Chinese fundraising dinner.

    He said he met with a woman named Theresa several days before the event who offered him a bag of cash.

    “She did say look, Mr Wong I would like to donate to support you and I think she handed, she gave me a big bag of … the money but I said look you better give it to Jonathan because I don’t want to handle the money,” he said.

    Asked who the woman was, Mr Wong said: “I think she was a cashier.”

    ICAC counsel assisting Scott Robertson asked: “She offered you that bag of cash, is that right?”

    Mr Wong replied: “Yeah I think you can say that, yes.”

    Mr Wong said he did not ask how much money was in the bag but recalled it may have been of “paper” or “plastic” material.

    He said it was his understanding that Mr Yee took the money away.

    Mr Wong also accepted he asked NSW Labor’s community relations director Kenrick Cheah — a part-time employee at the time — to “write off” an invoice prepared by NSW Labor to a company called Sydney Today for $5000 in connection with the fundraising dinner.

    ,,,

    Mr Wong’s evidence was also called into question yet again this morning with Mr Robertson at one point asking: “Are you making this up as you go along? It seems highly implausible”.

    At the time Mr Wong was being questioned about giving a bag of cash to Mr Xiangmo and retaining a separate bag with disclosure forms.

    Mr Wong responded: “I’m just trying to put all of my memories together the best that I can.”

  77. pete m

    Good news back in aust safe and sound, tongue in cheek.

    Obviously need to work more on my fake but almost funny holiday stories.

  78. johanna

    Bruce in WA
    #3145783, posted on September 2, 2019 at 10:46 am

    With regard to children’s literature.

    My wife is involved with the Children’s Book Council and a member of a book club that deals exclusively with YA (young adult) fiction.

    She tells me that all the “serious” YA books are about “issues” these days. For example, here are the blurbs from two she is reading at the moment.

    The examples you quoted afterwards are truly awful.

    I don’t get the idea of ‘young adult’ literature anyway. When I went to school, in pre-Jurassic times, we just got literature. It might be Joseph Conrad, or Banjo Paterson, or Henry Lawson, or Kenneth Slessor. At the age of 10, Mr Dawson gave us all of the above.

    I suppose that a lot of it washed over the pupils, but it didn’t wash over this one, and I’m sure that I wasn’t the only one.

  79. JC

    A couple of hours ago you were in the Bahamas on your way to Georgia and now you’re back in Australia? Teleportation sounds like it works, Pete m.

  80. Knuckle Dragger

    I wondered what all the fuss was about with Chick-fil-A so I looked it up.

    They’re closed on Sundays and don’t like poofs getting ‘married’.

    I thought they must have been a Black Plague distributor or something. Their tucker looks ok though.

  81. Steve trickler

    A touchy subject. Avoid like the Plaque.



  82. notafan

    I made a point of going to a Chick-fil-A when I was last in the US because nasty! horrid!

    very busy with super polite servers

    just another ‘chicken sandwich’ though

    prefer Five Guys, who now have a store next to Sagrada Familia in Barcelona, which I have also been to more recently (very expensive for a burger joint as you would expect in that location)

  83. feelthebern

    prefer Five Guys,

    errr…phrasing….?

    scurries away.

  84. Zyconoclast

    I thought the reason for high electricity prices were that the poles and wires were gold plated

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-02/powerline-infrastructure-holding-back-renewable-energy-boom/11457694

    Australia’s old powerlines are holding back the renewable energy boom

    Australian wind and solar farms are putting downward pressure on energy prices, and there are hundreds of new renewable facilities set to come online. But that green energy is stretching the country’s outdated network of transmission lines.

    Australia’s high-capacity transmission lines were designed to service centralised electricity generation from coal-fired power stations.
    But renewable projects are being built in parts of regional Australia where wind and solar produce the most energy.
    In many cases, these are the areas where the transmission network is weakest, with ageing power lines that were never designed to transport electricity from large-scale renewable generators.

  85. Tom

    Well-researched piece by Chris Kenny on the dishonest and underhanded way the ABC uses omission to distort public issues and attack its ideological opponents:

    Omission is always a critical factor when it comes to the truth and the whole truth. A fortnight ago the ABC’s Media Watch had another one of its regular swings at this newspaper.

    Predictably, it endorsed the ABC’s own Benjamin Law who is campaigning to encourage acceptance of gender transitioning for teenagers and railing against the reporting of other perspectives in this newspaper. Just as predictable was how Media Watch ignored the foul language and abuse Law uses in this public debate or the way he and his ABC producers were caught out recently with some editing that misled viewers in an unrelated documentary on the Chinese in Australia.

    To bolster its case Media Watch used comments from a former reporter at The Australian, Tony Koch, lashing out (again) at his old journal. For some reason host Paul Barry forgot to mention that Koch spent the election campaign working hard for the ALP to unseat Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton in the seat of Dickson. Unions, GetUp and other groups joined Labor in trying to demonise Dutton and drive him from parliament.

    Koch worked on the campaign team for ALP candidate Ali France, including dealing with media requests and appearances, in what was one of the most prominent and vicious marginal seat contests of the election.

    Tellingly, when Media Watch quoted Koch criticising The Australian in an episode during the campaign they mentioned this connection. Presumably, with the campaign over and Koch left to his own devices, they figured that any political agenda or motivation in his attacks on The Australian might have disappeared. Sure. Yet in their program the Monday before the election, after Media Watch disclosed Koch’s role with the ALP, they pointed out that two other former News Corp reporters supported his criticism — as if to assert that his views on The Australian were more about the defence of journalism than the pushing of political views.

    But perhaps Media Watch should also have told us more about those endorsements.

    One of them was from Paul Syvret who the ABC told us left The Courier-Mail last year. What they didn’t tell us was that in October he announced he was working for the Queensland branch of the CFMEU — only one of the most controversial, militant and aggressive left-wing unions in the country.

    His politics is no secret. He tweeted an apology to the nation on behalf of Queensland on the night of the election, as well as another “wondering how a nation could vote for fear, lies and greed over hope and inclusion”. What a surprise that he would endorse the views of another former News Corp journalist who was campaigning for the ALP.

    Media Watch also quoted a supportive tweet from yet another former News Corp scribe, Peter Logue. Yet on the very day of the ABC’s report, Logue had tweeted directly to Coalition Resources Minister Matt Canavan: “Enjoy opposition impotence, Matt.” And the day before that he tweeted: “Liberals — rich, thick and full of clots.”

    Like most leftist barrackers, Logue’s twitter feed is amusing in hindsight. He tweeted about The Australian’s Newspoll showing the contest at Coalition 49 per cent and Labor 51 per cent, suggesting this “bollocks” would be fixed in the final Newspoll, which was more likely to have Labor on 53 per cent. He also accused the Coalition of saving an “immigration scare” for the final week but that it wouldn’t work because they had “no cred”.

    Ten days out from the election Logue had it sorted. “Just remember bookies hate losing money, so watch the odds. It’s been an ALP victory for months. Ignore the mainstream media, it’s all a game to them.”

    On election eve Logue tweeted a message to former Labor minister Craig Emerson who was reflecting on the late Bob Hawke’s wish for a Shorten Labor government. “Wish will come true, Craig,” tweeted Logue. “It will be a good night for the country he loved.” On the election weekend he said he was working on campaign booths for Labor.

    To be fair to Media Watch it also quoted comments from a former editor of The Australian, David Armstrong, who lives in Thailand and was critical of the mix of columns in the paper when he announced on Facebook that he was no longer subscribing. I don’t know about Armstrong’s politics, but I do know something else he shared on Facebook that Media Watch did not include; he said that if he lived in Australia he would still subscribe. (Media Watch also reported some strange and non-specific comments made by then The Australian reporter Rick Morton to journalism students.)

    So what Media Watch described as “eye-popping” and “damning” attacks on The Australian from “award-winning” former News Corp reporters and editors, turned out to be a mild whinge from a former editor who would buy the paper if he still lived in the country, and clearly partisan attacks by three former journalists who were then actively campaigning for either the union movement, the Labor Party or both.

    Unsurprisingly robust media draws criticism. The Australian always has had critics and always will. But there is no need for the ABC to try to dress up partisan or ideological opponents as objective whistleblowers.

    Link.

    Leftists lie about everything all the time — and leftist journalists are among the worst.

    Leftist journalists who let ideology get in the way of their reporting (i.e., all of those at the ABC, Nine’s Fairfax, Guardian, etc) are uniquely disqualified from their supposed mission to protect the public interest because it is usually the exact opposite of the left’s political interests.

  86. Knuckle Dragger

    Ya gotta watch the quiet ones, bern.

  87. John Constantine

    Wool is still bought to be processed and sold to Europe for profit.

    The wool that was being bought for domestic China consumption now seems to be abandoned on strategic grounds.

    Tyrannies can do this.

    Overnight.

    Who knows how low capitulation sellers in Africa will sell down to?.

    One belt one road was always leading us to this point, just too soon for Australian production to be completely replaced, the tyrant needed more time.

    Still good money in wool at these levels, but my bloke rang today to run past me his opinion that the carnage wasn’t over yet.

    Six months of south African backlog hitting the market at once will be strategic victory for the chicoms.

    The more Australian wool stockpiled the greater the price dampening overhang created.

    Sell it while everyone is still making a dollar.

  88. JC

    Honest question, as opposed to dishonest.

    Doesn’t the Cambrian explosion, which saw an enormous number of new species hit the ground running, more or less refute the Darwinian theory of evolution. I’m not suggesting intelligent design or bullshit like that, but doesn’t this cause people to want to go back to the drawing boards and figure out a new theory? Maybe there’s also the possibility that ideal environmental conditions presented through a climate change that allowed these new species to develop and perhaps not refute Darwin. But boy, that species explosion sure looks like its bothersome though.

  89. feelthebern

    JC, when you were working in NY, did you know anyone who commuted from NJ to work?
    Got a mate who’s wife is trying to talk him into it.
    It will be 1 hour 15 door to door each way from where she wants to move to.

  90. johanna

    Chick-fil-A are now the third largest fast food outlet in the US, despite being closed on Sunday.

    It is just possible that they are doing something right.

  91. John Constantine

    Their Gerry Harvey doing a John Cleese and saying the changes in the country he pushed and supported his entire working life are now impacting upon him, and he doesn’t like it.

  92. JC

    Bern

    Sure, lots of people commuted. I recall one dude who lived on the other side of Philly in the rural area and commuted into the city. That commute was around 4 hours a day door to door. An absolute killer.

    The thing I hold to be true about NYC commutes is this. Always add at least 30 minutes to the estimated travel time.. perhaps even 40 minutes. People always underestimate. I know the NJ commute is awful it’s to Midtown.

  93. Dr Faustus

    Australia’s old powerlines are holding back the renewable energy boom

    Australian wind and solar farms are putting downward pressure on energy prices, and there are hundreds of new renewable facilities set to come online. But that green energy is stretching the country’s outdated network of transmission lines.

    Australia’s high-capacity transmission lines were designed to service centralised electricity generation from coal-fired power stations.

    But renewable projects are being built in parts of regional Australia where wind and solar produce the most energy.

    The solution?
    Easy, someone else has to build out about $70 billion in new infrastructure toot sweet.

    Or the subsidised windmills and solar farms “putting downward pressure on energy prices” won’t come out to play.

    This issue has been discussed in the electricity industry (including the NEMCO/AEMO drones) ad nauseam since about 2005. Australia has been consistently betrayed by its government class, who have knowingly handed over the running of the economy to carpet baggers and rentiers.

  94. feelthebern

    Geez.
    What’s the point of working there if you can’t enjoy it.

  95. max

    A good take from The Economist:

    Nobody should doubt that, if they sense Hong Kong sliding out of control, China’s leaders would use violence to preserve their authority, even if that would spark massive civil disobedience, tank Hong Kong’s stock- and property markets, and risk pushing American politicians, notably in Congress, from suspicion of China into a full-blown cold war. Yet, like Mongol missives zinging over city walls, the government’s threats are at once serious and a stratagem to frighten Hong Kongers into disowning the protesters and suing for peace. For sending in troops would be an admission of failure.
    Privately, some informed figures in Beijing play down the idea that October 1st is a deadline for ending the impasse, murmuring that Hong Kong, a tiny place of 7m people, cannot overshadow celebrations by a motherland of 1.4bn citizens. That raises a question: if China is signalling that it is at once implacable but somewhat patient, what do party leaders have in mind for Hong Kong?
    Multiple, overlapping campaigns are likely to enforce loyalty to China. One campaign is visibly under way within that part of Hong Kong that resembles an oligarchy. Chinese officials have scolded tycoons for allowing society to become so unequal and unaffordable. A best-case scenario would see curbs on magnates’ rent-seeking. Less happily, officials have told company bosses to suppress dissent among their employees or quit, as happened to the chief executive of Hong Kong’s flagship airline, Cathay Pacific.
    Less visible, but just as important, is a looming purge within the bit of Hong Kong that resembles a technocracy: the world of professionals who, for better or worse, have helped to run Hong Kong since colonial times, in the absence of full democracy. With youngsters dominating so many protests, Hong Kong’s schools and university campuses will be early targets for scrutiny. Ominously, a prominent pro-mainland politician talks of educators who “hate China” and teach the same to their students.
    Hong Kong has already seen attempts to marginalise pro-democracy voices in civil society for more than a decade. Now professionals are braced for a second purge, targeting pro-business conservatives who side with the government 80% or 90% of the time, but who—notably as the current protests began in opposition to a proposed extradition law that would have exposed Hong Kongers to the mainland’s criminal justice system—have voiced qualms or urged the authorities to make concessions. Such conservatives have long dominated such bodies as the Law Society or the Institute of Engineers, which in turn help fill umpteen disciplinary panels and advisory committees that make Hong Kong tick. Others sit in Hong Kong’s Legislative Council (LegCo), often representing “functional constituencies” consisting of a few thousand members of this or that industry or profession.
    Better Red than expert
    Mainland institutions that once shunned the spotlight, notably the central government’s Liaison Office, are increasingly open in their lobbying. Dennis Kwok, a pro-democracy politician and barrister who represents the legal constituency in LegCo, notes that particular controversy surrounds elections within professional bodies that allow for proxy voting. Junior members of law firms are routinely told to hand over proxy votes to partners, charges Mr Kwok. Then at election time, firms “get calls from clients, or from the Bank of China”, urging block-voting for candidates favoured by the Liaison Office. Time and again, China-friendly “Reds” are driving out old-school conservatives, says Mr Kwok. The authorities in Beijing “want people who are absolutely loyal”.
    Several professionals describe how architects, lawyers, engineers and the like are urged to join study tours of the mainland. Lectures and visits to Chinese patriotic sites allow the Liaison Office and its allies to scout for potential recruits. Later, reunions are organised back in Hong Kong, creating networks. Loyalists can expect lucrative projects and offers of work on the mainland.
    Such patronage politics lacks the drama of troops on the streets. It will still disgust many Hong Kongers, for the city’s political culture—as millions of marchers have made clear—includes a respect for individual rights and accountable government wholly alien to the bossy, collectivist, croneyish autocrats in Beijing. Alas, as Kublai Khan knew, not all conquests require invasion. ■
    This article appeared in the China section of the print edition under the headline “Getting a grip”

  96. Dragnet

    Paul Syvret is a dishonest thuggish p.o.s.
    We have a mutual friend via FB and he actively worked to undermine a 30 year real friendship when he became aware of my politics.

  97. JC

    By the way, the dude who lived on the other side of Philly.. he died of lymphoma. The dude was up at 4 in the morning to get to work. He was a former special forces dude/ Vietnam vet. The bitch of a wife didn’t want to move closer in because it didn’t suit her and he had kids. A hard life and I’m sure that’s what killed him.

    Nice funeral though. He a military send off and very tasteful.

  98. duncanm

    Excruciatingly generous’: UTS ATAR discount for women so patronising

    In an effort to reduce the gender imbalance within engineering, the University of Technology Sydney will reduce its ATAR requirement by 10 points for female students.

    this is stupid on so many levels.

    Engineering happens to be one of the harder degrees to do. There’s a shed-load of maths (if you didn’t do 4-unit, or whatever the equivalent HSC is these days, then you’re going to struggle), then throw in chemistry, materials science and physics, plus a couple of token bullshit marxist arts subjects to keep you in line and fill the spare time you don’t have. The first few years are many many hours of face to face lectures, plus the rest.

    The entrance requirements for engineering are already relatively low, as they’re driven by perceived earning potential and cachet (demand), not need for skill.

    Lets take UNSW, which popped up in goggle first.

    Engineering runs between ATAR 91.0 and 96.4 (2013).

    For comparative purposes, commerce is 96+, architecture 95, arts 78.

    Those on the lower level ATARs are already struggling, so to then go and say you’re going to let in people who only got marks useful for an arts degree is ignorant in the extreme.

    Lowering the marks will just bring in more people who won’t cut the mustard. Build up a year (or two if they’re lucky) of debt, then drop out.

  99. JC

    Geez.
    What’s the point of working there if you can’t enjoy it.

    How about… you have to.

    Life is really harder for most Americans. Obviously, not everyone can afford to live in the city and there are actually people who prefer living in the burbs rather than in town. Mad!

  100. feelthebern

    I’d prefer to live in a shit hole studio close to work than spend 3 hours commuting.
    But I get it, that’s not for many people.

  101. KartiyaReality

    Leigh Sales angered after unwanted kiss in front of crowd at charity dinner

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/sep/02/leigh-sales-angered-unwanted-kiss-crowd-charity-dinner

    Intolerable indeed

    unbearable, insufferable, unsupportable, insupportable, unendurable, beyond endurance, unacceptable, impossible, more than flesh and blood can stand, too much to bear, past bearing, not to be borne, overpowering; informal too much, enough to try the patience of a saint, enough to try the patience of Job

    “the drilling noise had become intolerable”

    “the abc had become intolerable”

  102. JC

    I’d prefer to live in a shit hole studio close to work than spend 3 hours commuting.
    But I get it, that’s not for many people.

    Fuck commuting. It’s hell. Anything more than 20 minute travel time in peak is bullshit.

    I’ve never really understood NYC. In Australian big cities, you have the inner city burbs, which to all intents is like living in NYC. You then have the middle burbs and then the outer ones. The richer people live in the inner and middle burbs.

    Not NYC though where the middle type burbs are like Queens etc. The wealthier urbanites live way past Queens etc. like Westchester, Rye and others. The commute is a killer.

  103. old bloke

    feelthebern
    #3145990, posted on September 2, 2019 at 4:31 pm

    JC, when you were working in NY, did you know anyone who commuted from NJ to work?

    Eldest son & his wife lived in Ediston NJ and commuted to Manhattan daily (45 minute trip). That’s roughly the same time as living on Long Island.

  104. JC

    That’s roughly the same time as living on Long Island.

    You really can’t say that, OB. Lonk Island is a long narrow strip and very much depends where in Lonk Island.

  105. Mark A

    feelthebern
    #3145837, posted on September 2, 2019 at 12:06 pm

    I’d like to see her go to a decent school and learn English.

    Find a school.
    Pay the school fees direct.
    This bird sounds like a selfish b*tch.

    Agree Bern, don’t know if she is selfish or not, my concern is with her boyfriend(s).
    Easy money is like honey. Soon special requests will follow for sudden ’emergencies’.

    If the Dr, really cares about her education than that’s the way to go, on the other hand if it’s just a helping hand no strings can be attached. Defeats the purpose.

  106. JC

    Someone, please tell me the Doc has had a leg over with Maria. Please say it happened.

  107. old bloke

    About half way JC, Syosset area.

  108. feelthebern

    Syosset area.

    What part of Maria is that?

  109. Syosset area.
    What part of Maria is that?

    My Cuban – English anatomical dictionary can’t find it either.
    The “halfway” isn’t much of a clue, or is it?

  110. Tintarella di Luna

    I was wondering how the deported Bakhtiari family of 2004 is faring – any news of their fate, were they stoned to death, put in gaol or are they just getting on with life back in Pakistan — I am saddened to see that there appears to have been no follow-up on the fate of that family by the usual hystericals.

  111. Bruce of Newcastle

    Guess what? The EV boom has turned into a mirage. Weird.

    “Demand For EV Cars Now A Problem:” Global Lithium Bust Underway As Prices Collapse

    There was once a time when lithium carbonate spot prices soared higher, all with increasing demand from electric car companies. This all ended in the late 4Q17 when the global economy entered into a cyclical downturn. In the last 15 months, lithium spot prices have been halved.

    The result of the glut is a combination of factors, including decreasing electric car demand from China, and Australia opening up six new lithium mines.

    Macquarie Capital analyst Vivienne Lloyd wrote a recent note explaining how the electric car industry was slowing, “inferring that on top of excess supply [of lithium], demand [for EVs] is now a problem.”

    So car companies believed the bullshit spouted by the climateers and went all in on EVs. The miners then found and developed lots of lithium because of the coming boom of EV sales. But mk1 unenlightened hairy knuckle-dragging customers completely failed to get on board the Gaia bus and steadfastly refused to buy over-priced golf carts. And now the lithium price has collapsed just as oodles more of the stuff is reaching markets. ROFL!

  112. johanna

    The dude was up at 4 in the morning to get to work. He was a former special forces dude/ Vietnam vet. The bitch of a wife didn’t want to move closer in because it didn’t suit her and he had kids. A hard life and I’m sure that’s what killed him.

    JC is now a medical examiner in his copious spare time.

  113. old bloke

    feelthebern
    #3146015, posted on September 2, 2019 at 5:04 pm

    Syosset area.

    What part of Maria is that?

    I was responding to JC’s question about Long Island, not Dr BG’s love life.

  114. Tintarella di Luna

    “I’m just trying to put all of my memories together the best that I can.”

    at least he didn’t say “I can’t recall”

  115. calli

    Is romantic progress still measured in bases and home runs?

    Yes. I am that old. 😁

  116. feelthebern

    Ah, reading back up thread that does make sense.
    However, referring to Maria as the Syosset area is also funny.

  117. egg_

    Send me $100 a week.
    I have a car to restore.

    Yeah, Arky needs to get orff his @rse and put in a 9 litre Chevy crate motor.

    Something like this beauty:

  118. JC

    Jezebel

    I guess a few days without trying to pull a chain is too hard for a fucking lunatic. Give the money you took from the taxpayer back you thieving troll.

  119. calli

    On DrBeau’s generosity – get in touch with the local school and pay the fees direct. You may have to stump up for a uniform. Make sure you get reports from the school.

    Under no circumstances make regular payments to mum.

    Educating a little third world girl will have real benefits for her and her future family.

  120. calli

    That’s a thing of beauty, egg_.

  121. None

    So Leigh Sales is complaining about an unwanted kiss but I suppose it only matters who
    https://www.abc.net.au/7.30/paul-mccartney-on-six-decades-of-making-music/9225472
    Go on give us a kiss, love.

  122. feelthebern

    Always has been none.
    & always will.
    None of the metoo movement said anything when Lena Dunham forced herself on Brad Pitt last month.

  123. egg_

    Another Swedish Municipality That Took In Migrants Faces Economic Crisis

    Sweden: Municipality Inundated with Migrants Faces Tax Crisis as Native Swedes Flee

    Karma for Their Greta.

  124. calli

    Did Paul McCartney kiss Leigh Sales? And she whinged?

    What am I missing here?

  125. None

    I don’t know if it’s a good idea or not. But at least she’s a real person, and Cubans need all the help they can get. It’s not a lot to me and quite a lot to her.

    Bad idea. It won’t get her off the game. It will just attract more undesirables to her. And you are just treating her like an infant.

  126. feelthebern

    How did Lena Dunham ever get a start in film or TV?
    I can understand how Rebel Wilson did with comedy.
    But that other land whale has no redeeming qualities.

  127. Leigh Lowe

    Australian wind and solar farms are putting downward pressure on energy prices, and there are hundreds of new renewable facilities set to come online. But that green energy is stretching the country’s outdated network of transmission lines

    But, but … Julia told us the network was gold plated.

  128. feelthebern

    Is Maria a hooker?
    Ew, Doc, that’s just nasty.

  129. JC

    How did Lena Dunham ever get a start in film or TV?
    I can understand how Rebel Wilson did with comedy.
    But that other land whale has no redeeming qualities.

    Markets aren’t perfect. Also, she appears to be a one hit wonder.

  130. JC

    Jezebel

    Now that you got my attention, how fucking said is posting this. How pathetically sad.

    I can assure readers that I have had no shortage of high quality men, some of whom wanted to marry me,

    Just call the hotline.

  131. Rae

    Did Paul McCartney kiss Leigh Sales?

    Yes.

    And she whinged?

    No.

    What am I missing here?

    Mental faculties. Probably from dementia, old lady.

  132. Nick

    I can assure readers that I have had no shortage of high quality men, some of whom wanted to marry me,

    CL?

  133. Geriatric Mayfly

    I was wondering how the deported Bakhtiari family of 2004 is faring

    Mentioned them yesterday and how they frittered our taxes away with endless litigation to save their sorry arses. Shunted off “under the cover of darkness.” One presstitute, I recall, focused on one the boys and how extraordinarily well he was doing at school and to send hime home etc etc etc Made me think he might, of his own volition, apply through the normal channels to come back and resume his spectacular educational experience.

  134. feelthebern

    Define high quality men?
    I hear monty is quite the catch.
    Known for his lower body strength.

  135. JC

    Jezebel … Johanna

    In between telling us she devoured a bad pie. That’s why she was so upset that day.

    johanna
    #3140478, posted on August 25, 2019 at 2:26 pm

    Trivial consumer info spot – I tried a frozen pie from a well known brand yesterday. The label claimed that the contents of the pie had been slow cooked for six hours.

    A lie. There were large chewy bits, intact slices of fat, and chunks of gristle.

    Slow cooked for six hours? Not in a million years. Unless they mean slow cooked at 10C.

    Never get in between the Jez and a pie – even a half cooked one with bits of gristle.

  136. feelthebern

    Catallaxy man-meat auction.

  137. Roger

    Australia has been consistently betrayed by its government class, who have knowingly handed over the running of the economy to carpet baggers and rentiers.

    Liberty Quote.

    And not just the economy but immigration as well.

  138. feelthebern

    Apologies if the term man-meat triggered anyone.

  139. John Constantine

    Animal rights organisation FOUR PAWS has highlighted the importance of the groups’ decision, indicating the move provides a clear signal to the Australian sheep industry that change needs to happen.

    The head of programs at FOUR PAWS Australia, Jessica Medcalf, has commended the fashion brands on taking the initiative towards a more humane manufacturing process.

    “Well done to the team at Country Road Group and David Jones for making a solid plan to achieve higher levels of sheep welfare within their supply chains,” she said.

    “Country Road’s commitment and plan to phase out mulesed wool is a progressive step forward for animals, and greater transparency for shoppers.”

    Introduced in the 1920s, mulesing is the process of removing folds of skin from the tail area of a sheep, intended to reduce fly strike.

    It was once considered a ‘necessary evil’ but is now and out-of-touch with modern standards as alternatives exist and are already in use by many producers.

    “Mulesing causes millions of lambs to suffer fear, stress and acute pain every year in Australia,” she said.

    Social licence ratchets left.

    Of course, the complete removal of the social licence of wool as a fashion fabric is the end game, but the first ones to capitulate take a breather while the dissenting holdouts are brought into line.

    Then the next assault begins.

  140. johanna

    Gosh, I’ve certainly got into JC’s head rent free. He looks up my past posts (something I’ve never done with him) and then takes potshots.

    Poor thing. How sad. He really should be spending the day hosing the concrete and the lions at the gate.

    Assuming, of course, that he’s finished shaving his back.

  141. JC

    Jez

    Real question we need answered.

    If you had all this horde of high quality men all wanting to marry you, how come you’re sitting alone bawling about a bad pie?

  142. P

    Only 10 mins into The Drum tonight and I’ve already shed a few tears.
    Well worth watching!

  143. notafan

    The last sentence of this story is the clincher

    the bahktiaris

  144. Cassie of Sydney

    “P
    #3146064, posted on September 2, 2019 at 6:11 pm
    Only 10 mins into The Drum tonight and I’ve already shed a few tears.
    Well worth watching!”

    I too am watching…the first time I have ever watched The Drum….the reason why I that I was told these survivors would be on. I know two of the women…one very well. I am crying.

  145. egg_

    That’s a thing of beauty, egg_.

    Should be inspirational to the Arkster.

    Warm 350 Chevy trimatic, sounds bootiful.

  146. Old School Conservative

    Australia opening up six new lithium mines

    Good. Might give me more access to lithium for my spa.
    It’s been as scarce as hens’ teeth.

  147. Overburdened

    My deepest apologies to sane people on this site for my reckless statements about the resident dissenter.

    Scrolling back, he has dropped his veil and shown that he is far from being merely a harmless puffed up idiot.

    He is a sociopath with an overweening sense of his own importance as an agent of change who just makes stuff up and draws spurious parallels (the bit about people by getting shot with a particular weapon in various places where basically no one in the civil population would have one is a glaring example) that do not bear scrutiny because they are so asinine.

    In my own defence, I think he is still a puffed up idiot, and is harmless because he is not sophisticated enough to have finesse.

    He is however wholly unpleasant, who I believe vacillates between teeth grinding rage and self congratulatory exultation.

    Naturally he should be free to continue to expose himself on a libertarian site.

  148. Old School Conservative

    calli
    #3146023, posted on September 2, 2019 at 5:22 pm
    Is romantic progress still measured in bases and home runs?

    Yes. I am that old. 😁

    The dim dark recesses of my mind have a male-oriented numbering system. 2,4,6,8, etc each denoting a specific “achievement”.
    I hesitate to describe the system as “romantic” though.

  149. Tel

    In an effort to reduce the gender imbalance within engineering, the University of Technology Sydney will reduce its ATAR requirement by 10 points for female students.

    Appalling.

    UTS director of women in engineering and IT Dr Arti Agarwal explained “nobody [would be] getting a free pass” and that once admitted to the course women would have to meet all its requirements.

    Is there one single person who believes that this does not entail dropping standards? No way they really going to commit to filling seats with young women, fresh out of school, and then failing them in bulk. They will find a way to pass them … whatever it takes, as the ALP likes to say.

    Thing is, Australian tertiary standards are steadily dropping anyhow … but now you have sent a signal to all men who were up until recently thinking about doing Engineering at UTS that they can expect to get ripped off. You have sent a signal to all women thinking about doing Engineering at UTS that if they are really good they should go elsewhere, because after this day UTS degrees are guaranteed to be seen as a bit watered down. Even those women who never needed the extra 10 bonus points to get in the door will carry the stigma of those who do. This is dreadful!

    The left-wing quite frankly hates the idea of merit and wants to undermine it at every opportunity, but this sort of thing is what undermines the entire degree.

  150. Arky

    Warm 350 Chevy trimatic, sounds bootiful.

    ..
    Sure, but that engine belongs in one of these:
    ..



    A place for everything, and everything in it’s place.

  151. egg_

    That Rod would prolly pull 11’s, like a Nissan GTR.

  152. Arky

    Or you could put it in an MX5:
    ..


  153. Empire 5:5

    Leigh Sales angered after unwanted kiss in front of crowd at charity dinner

    Why do communists complain about everything all the time?

    I lost count of the charity f—ks I doled out in my day and never once did I complain about it.

  154. egg_

    A stock LS2 goes like a rocket in an RX-7 (400 hp).

  155. mh

    feelthebern
    #3146038, posted on September 2, 2019 at 5:31 pm
    Is Maria a hooker?
    Ew, Doc, that’s just nasty.

    It’s complicated. It’s Cuba.

  156. 1735099

    Holecaust survivor on the Drum says when he watches television he feels like he’s back in the 30s.
    This is a man who had a swastika carved into his skin on Kristallnacht.

  157. struth

    Good Afternoon.
    Well well well.

    I gets meself into Alice Springs and note that just this week they have put a new flag on Anzac hill.
    I bet you don’t need two guesses as to which one.
    It’s pride of place with a new flag pole and it seems higher than the Australian flag and it certainly is when I note the Australian flag was not at full height while the racist one was.
    A f…ing disgrace.

  158. P

    Numbers, it’s the Dumb.

    mh, did you watch it?

  159. mh

    mh, did you watch it?

    Of course not!

    Sounds like their comedy material is getting pretty sick.

  160. Empire 5:5

    Holecaust survivor on the Drum says when he watches television he feels like he’s back in the 30s.
    This is a man who had a swastika carved into his skin on Kristallnacht.

    My grandmother says the same thing. She can’t understand why young people are so complacent about the tyranny, but then she wasn’t educated by communists.

  161. struth

    And numbers…fuck off.
    Those Holocaust survivors survived racist socialists.
    Like you.
    Socialists and commos….your side.

    Pray and pray hard.
    Your life has been a sad failure of morality.
    You’re a dead c..nt.
    Pray for forgiveness.

  162. P

    Sounds like their comedy material is getting pretty sick.

    Not tonight mh. Not tonight. I have been so moved by it I am unable to write anymore ATM.

  163. Kev

    Holecaust survivor on the Drum says when he watches television he feels like he’s back in the 30s

    Wouldn’t be on the Dumb if he didn’t feel that way.

  164. Cassie of Sydney

    I know two of those women….they despise tyranny of both the far right and the far left. And they didn’t want to hang around Eastern Europe after the Russians took control of Poland, Slovakia and Hungary….because they knew what would happen. They left to find liberty here in Australia.

  165. mh

    A Holocaust survivor that believes the Squad don’t know what they are fvcking talking about won’t appear on the Dumb.

  166. Knuckle Dragger

    In this day and age, it escapes me why people brag about tertiary qualifications, or would even entertain the thought of having one/some.

    Not all that long ago they were considered quite and achievement. Now you might as well walk up to someone and say you have two arms, or hair.

  167. Roger

    They left to find liberty here in Australia.

    And remain very grateful to have done so.

  168. Mother Lode

    Crossing from Circular Quay to Manly on a ferry with a beer (thanks to Four Pines getting a concession) is a delight.

    We are blessed with so languidly swelling and surging a waterway in the heart of the city which can be enhanced with the demon drink. You know someone had erred when we can enjoy the reinforcing interference of pleasures instead of the usual fiercely puritanical denunciations of Old Nanny State.

    But for the time being, and lost in the time being, life is riddled with pleasures.

  169. Frank

    In this day and age, it escapes me why people brag about tertiary qualifications, or would even entertain the thought of having one/some.

    There is still value in the hard sciences, for now.

  170. Mother Lode

    And Africans should be compelled to surrender their ‘b’s and ‘w’s when they enter the country.

    That would comprehensively shut them up.

    They really don’t seem to get that the mobile phone carries their voice so they don’t have to shout out loud.

    I blame Numbers. ‘Cos he’s a bottom-burp.

  171. Cassie of Sydney

    “Kev
    #3146098, posted on September 2, 2019 at 7:10 pm
    Holecaust survivor on the Drum says when he watches television he feels like he’s back in the 30s

    Wouldn’t be on the Dumb if he didn’t feel that way.”

    The last ten minutes of the programme was a deliberate and pathetic attempt to insinuate that the rise of anti-Semitism is due to the rise of the far right…that is a lie. Most of the attacks on Jooooos in Europe are by Mueslis….it is about ninety percent. Now whilst the far right do pose a problem…they have always been a problem…the big fear…the reason why our Jooooish schools, kindergartens, synagogues, temples, communal organisations and so on have round the clock security is because most of the severe threats are coming from Islaaaaaaaaaam.

  172. Cassie of Sydney

    “Roger
    #3146103, posted on September 2, 2019 at 7:15 pm
    They left to find liberty here in Australia.

    And remain very grateful to have done so.”

    Yes they do Roger…they love this country.

  173. mh

    The last ten minutes of the programme was a deliberate and pathetic attempt to insinuate that the rise of anti-Semitism is due to the rise of the far right…that is a lie. Most of the attacks on Jooooos in Europe are by Mueslis….it is about ninety percent.

    Shut It Down.

    Fire Them All.

  174. Kev

    Cassie

    Which is why I don’t watch the program. I’m not going to waste the time I have left watching people put down my way of life.

  175. Roger

    Yes they do Roger…they love this country.

    That was very evident.

    God bless them and theirs.

  176. Knuckle Dragger

    I didn’t watch The Dumb (duh) and so didn’t see the people talking re the Holocaust (H O L O C A U S T Bob. There were holes involved but they didn’t call it that, Mr PhD).

    But if old mate really said that today was like living in the ’30s, I can understand why he’d feel that way.

    Totalitarianism in the form of socialism and communism on the rise everywhere.

    Punters barred from leaving countries, instead of entering them.

    Filthy pinkos threatening to, and actually using force to overthrow and create their own governments.

    Freedom of speech being chipped away incrementally until it no longer exists.

    The populace disarmed. Nanny statism controlling millions of people.

    The people in such countries speaking out, and being ignored by our betters.

  177. Roger

    Which is why I don’t watch the program. I’m not going to waste the time I have left watching people put down my way of life.

    That’s your prerogative, Kev.

    But the folk featured certainly weren’t doing that.

  178. Steve trickler

    $26 dollars for a pack of smokes ( 20’s ) in OZ.

    Wow.

  179. JC

    Steve trickler
    #3146116, posted on September 2, 2019 at 7:35 pm

    $26 dollars for a pack of smokes ( 20’s ) in OZ.

    Wow.

    I’ve paid close to 45 bucks at a petrol station for a pack of 25s. $26 bucks sounds “cheap”. Haven’t smoked for 3 months now. Totally on a vape.

  180. Empire 5:5

    Which is why I don’t watch the program. I’m not going to waste the time I have left watching people put down my way of life.

    That’s my liberty quote of the week, Kev. Thank you.

    If every Australian who laments where we are at, stopped consuming the fakestream media-entertainment complex propaganda for just one year, our problems would soon be over.

    There is great power in restraint. It isn’t difficult. Turn it off.

  181. 1735099

    Amazing.
    I report an observation made by a 90 year old who has showed extraordinary resilience and instantly positions are taken, and insults thrown.
    One of the other points he made was that hate destroys both the haters and their targets.
    Maybe you should listen to this extraordinary man.
    He might just teach you something.

  182. bespoke

    Cassie of Sydney
    #3146107, posted on September 2, 2019 at 7:21 pm
    Now whilst the far right do pose a problem

    Alienate people long enough most turn to extreme’s regardless of race.

  183. Steve trickler

    JC

    I’m going to follow your lead.

  184. Mater

    Holecaust survivor on the Drum says when he watches television he feels like he’s back in the 30s.

    In the 30’s, he was experiencing it. Today he is watching what someone wants him to see.
    I’ll let you decide what the difference is.

  185. stackja

    ABC anti-Australian?
    I am shocked!

  186. mh

    The ABC actually put forward an entry into one of Iran’s holocaust mocking cartoon competitions.

  187. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘hate destroys both the haters and their targets’

    Yep, those hatey socialists sure are shithouse.

    But hey, if we love them enough they might not enslave and kill us. We should follow the lead of that bloke who had the same idea.

    Chamberlain.

  188. JC

    Tickler

    Start the vaping on 6 ml of nicotine. Don’t go to 12 as it fucks with your brain/sinus. Also, buy the tobacco tasting e- juice, which has little taste or smell. They rest are a turn off.

  189. Farmer Gez

    All you need is love….

    Pogrom

    All you need is love…

    Holocaust

    All you need is love…

    Jihad

    All you need is love, love, love is all you need.

  190. Knuckle Dragger

    You’re not a victim Bob. You’re really not.

    Keep having a crack, though. With your PhD you could with time become both mediocre as well as inconsequential.

  191. calli

    when he watches television he feels like he’s back in the 30s.

    Watching the ABC? Seven News? Antifa Blackshirting?

    I can believe it.

  192. P

    My husband was 22yrs when he arrived in Australia near the end of 1958. Earlier that year he had completed 2yrs in the Dutch Marines as a peace keeping force in New Guinea. When he went back to the Netherlands he immediately applied for immigration to Australia. He was one of eight children, three of which had already come here to live.
    Years later after we were married I mentioned the Diary of Anne Frank. He was born in central Amsterdam and had lived there all his life till he joined the Marines. He had no idea who Anne Frank was until I alerted him to her story, even though he had lived a street away from where she hid during the war. He told me this was common place in Amsterdam and many, many had housed such persons in their attics and basements.
    He was almost 9yrs when the war in Europe ended. Initially as a 4-5yr old he would admire they way the soldiers marched past his front door and he saw them through the window with their beautiful uniforms and shinny shoes. There was a curfew and anyone who ventured out was shot.
    As he grew older he gradually saw more and more of the homes of his J-wish neighbours having their windows and doors boarded up never to be seen again.
    The last year of the war he had to be sent to the north of Holland to stay and work on a farm of distant relatives he had never met. In Amsterdam they would have starved to death but for the potatoes his father who was a builder would smuggle in his wheel barrow over the border, risking his life. At the farm he would have milk, eggs, chickens etc – the army would just call past and take what they wanted.
    Our children often joke about the fact that their dad could never eat potatoes.

  193. Robber Baron

    If smokers stop smoking there will be a revenue shortfall and that means other excise taxes will go higher.

    Imagine being a drinker, smoker, drive a car for a living and need electricity. Poor tax slave.

  194. Cassie of Sydney

    “I report an observation made by a 90 year old”

    Actually the turd can’t have watched very hard….Eddie Jaku is 98. Unlike the turd, Eddie is a decent and honourable man who lives and speak truth.

  195. Ivan Denisovich

    the reason why our Jooooish schools, kindergartens, synagogues, temples, communal organisations and so on have round the clock security is because most of the severe threats are coming from Islaaaaaaaaaam.

    This is one I won’t forget:

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/153947

  196. stackja

    KD – Neville’s final ultimatum was not met.
    So began WW2.

  197. feelthebern

    There’s a new show starting on Fox called the Butcher.
    Looks like they are carving up all kinds of critters.
    Outstanding, you should always know where your food comes from.

  198. Cassie of Sydney

    Here is a song from a wonderful Yiddish singer by the name of Leo Fuld….

  199. Knuckle Dragger

    stack,

    This very day, I believe.

  200. feelthebern

    Amazing.
    Spends all his time here correcting others spelling.
    Then can’t even spell Holocaust correctly.
    Show some respect.

  201. mh

    If smokers stop smoking there will be a revenue shortfall and that means other excise taxes will go higher.

    But it doesn’t have to be that way. Shut down the ABC instead, that will save 1.2 billion a year.

  202. Mark A

    Tower on the left built in 1281, the one on the right in 1304 and the bridge itself completed in 1329.

    Being demolished as we speak, to give the frenchies access to a sea port via the Seine.

    All in the name of ‘climate’ change because river transport is sooo much CO2 friendly.

  203. bespoke

    P
    #3146131, posted on September 2, 2019 at 7:52 pm

    Nice story. I prefer first hand accounts rather then filtered though historians when possible.

  204. 1735099

    Eddie is an honest and decent man….

    Exactly.
    That is why I quoted him.
    I hope you’re not inferring he was got at by the ABC.
    He’s stronger and wiser than that.
    He calls what he sees.

  205. mh

    1735099
    #3146085, posted on September 2, 2019 at 6:59 pm
    Holecaust survivor on the Drum says…

    My ipad auto corrects. Bob possibly went out of his way to get the spelling wrong.

  206. Robert Mc

    In this day and age, it escapes me why people brag about tertiary qualifications, or would even entertain the thought of having one/some.

    That’s because you don’t have any. No surprise there.

    And you’ve never served. Apart from your ex, whom you obviously didn’t serve well. Otherwise she wouldn’t be your ex.

  207. stackja

    KD – Tomorrow, 3 September 1939.
    And Australia was at war with Germany too. Of course, leftists who supported Stalin were unhappy.

  208. calli

    Mischief making.

    Well directed. The subject matter was obvious.

  209. Tel

    KD – Neville’s final ultimatum was not met.
    So began WW2.

    Yes, give the other guy the benefit of the doubt to begin with, but don’t keep giving forever. Trust but verify.

    If you start a war only on suspicion and nothing more than that, you end up like Dubya’s invasion of Iraq where afterwards the question remains, “What the heck was that for?”

    If you watch Trump closely,… he always gives the other guy a chance to hit him first, but he never forgives them after they have hit him once.

  210. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    KD – Neville’s final ultimatum was not met.
    So began WW2.

    There’s a good account in William Manchester’s biography of Winston Churchill about how the German Army had depleted the “West Wall” defenses to mount the invasion of Poland, and how concerned they were at the threat of French attack.

  211. bespoke

    1735099
    #3146144, posted on September 2, 2019 at 8:08 pm
    Eddie is an honest and decent man….

    Exactly.
    That is why I quoted him.
    I hope you’re not inferring he was got at by the ABC.
    He’s stronger and wiser than that.
    He calls what he sees.

    Do you know him?

  212. Delcon

    Cassie of Sydney
    #3146107, posted on September 2, 2019 at 7:21 pm
    Now whilst the far right do pose a problem

    Alienate people long enough most turn to extreme’s regardless of race.

    Turn to radical policies, maybe. But, on the extremes of the Right you’ll find conspiracy theorists who can proudly hold their own against any LWNJ when it comes to breathtaking moonbattery.

  213. Mother Lode

    Spelling can be important, but you can really communicate all you need even with errors

    Geyser far quit and a fark in re tard.

  214. Steve trickler

    I’ll suss it out via a work colleague, JC. Cheers for the tip.

  215. Nob

    Cassie of Sydney
    #3146138, posted on September 2, 2019 at 8:00 pm
    Here is a song from a wonderful Yiddish singer by the name of Leo Fuld….

    Sounds good.

    Do you know Sydney-based Yiddish , cabaret and “world” singer, Dahlia Dior?

    Her man was my Uber driver a few years ago and we got talking music, is how I heard of her.

    http://www.dahliadior.com/

  216. feelthebern

    All totalitarian regimes must be resisted in anyway possible.
    Anyone debating their motivations is missing the point.

  217. JC

    Tickler

    Why assume your work colleague would know better? 🙂

  218. Nob

    She is more Sephardic than Ashkenazi.
    Like meself, all 3% of it .

  219. stackja

    Tel – I believe Saddam convinced most people he had WMD. Only after did doubts appear. Saddam gambled and lost.

  220. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Brian Burke takes aim at current WA Labor government in 7Perth’s Flashpoint
    PerthNow
    September 2, 2019 3:35PM
    Emily Moulton
    Topics
    State Politics
    Politics
    Labor

    Former WA premier Brian Burke has once again opened up about his regrets, saying he would “change everything” if given the chance but believes our current State Government lacks the same courage politicians of his generation had.

    In an interview with 7Perth’s new current affairs panel show, Flashpoint, which airs at 9.30pm tonight, the former Labor leader says he knows he made many mistakes throughout his career but thinks modern politics, and in particular, our current crop of leaders, are too concerned with how they are perceived rather than making bold moves.

    “Look, I’m under no illusion about my reputation. I know that if you raise my name in a pub you’ll probably get either a whack in the ear or a hug,” he tells host Tim McMillan. “Often when prominent people retire from their positions they’re asked what would you do differently and they often say I wouldn’t change a thing. Well, that’s not me. I’d change everything. I’d run a million miles from a lot of those decisions that saw me described as the ‘architect of WA Inc’.

    “Now it’s clear to me that unlike the 80s, when I guess we thought we were bullet-proof, that these days everybody is watching themselves so closely, that it’s almost a question of doing nothing. And so I hesitate to say that the State Government is less courageous than were previous governments.

    “When I was elected to Parliament there was a whiff of a vocation about politics. These days politics is much more of a job. I don’t think more than one or two of the ministers in the present government would have made it in to the ministry in the 80s. Today’s political leaders are intimidated and dominated by a media that is aggressive, intrusive, unreasonable and often wrong.”

    Burke also talks about the late Labor Prime Minister, Bob Hawke, saying he did not think the man who is arguably this country’s most popular leader would “have lasted one week in the present social media smokestack environment”.

    “The things that I witnessed Bob do which were acceptable then and which people laughed about would today see him the target of the Me Too movement, drummed out of parliament, probably in disgrace,” he says.

    Burke was considered one of the most popular and successful Labor politicians of his time becoming premier of WA at 36 during the boom time era of the 1980s.

    And while his government is credited with bringing about real change to this state – it abolished the death penalty, transformed the Perth Mint into a money-maker and pushed ahead with Hillarys Boat Harbour and Burswood Casino despite fierce opposition – it was his close ties to controversial businessman that brought about his downfall.

    Fight you bastards, fight. I hate peace.

  221. feelthebern

    Dahlia Dior

    I think she did a corporate gig I went to years ago.
    omg, I’m just thinking of the theme of the party.
    Would never happen nowadays, but that is probably a good thing.

  222. bespoke

    Was it a observation or a quote numberwang?

  223. JC

    Nob
    #3146161, posted on September 2, 2019 at 8:20 pm

    She is more Sephardic than Ashkenazi.
    Like meself, all 3% of it .

    Wait until you find out you’re ~ 20%, which means you then have to observe all 600 rules. Fuck that, no way am I giving up ham, bacon and prosciutto and shell fish. 🙂

  224. P

    Nice story. I prefer first hand accounts rather then filtered though historians when possible.

    Thanks bespoke. I related what he shared with me the best I could. If he were still here on this earth I would ask him to describe it better. He would have. He was just liked by all who knew or even met him.
    When he passed, I phoned a musician he had played with over many years and asked him to pass on the message to all those musos who knew him.
    I remember to this day what he said to me:
    Your husband was the most unassuming man I’ve ever met in my whole life.

    So thanks bespoke.

  225. JC

    Dahlia Dior

    Sounds like a porn name?

  226. feelthebern

    Remember, criticism is a one way street with numbers.
    He tends to blow up when asked the tamest of questions.
    Like he did this morning, before skulking away for most of the daylight hours.

  227. stackja

    Tel – I believe 9/11 was like Pearl Harbor. The USA response was unexpected. Again I believe DT will respond when and if needed.

  228. Steve trickler

    He’s been buying the stuff online for a while JC, i’ll give it a go.

  229. Knuckle Dragger

    bespoke,

    Was just thinking the same thing. Either Liability Bob knows a whole pile of people, or he’s got some sort of ESP thing going.

    Just like him though. Hiding his light under a bushel.

  230. Cassie of Sydney

    “feelthebern
    #3146170, posted on September 2, 2019 at 8:26 pm
    Remember, criticism is a one way street with numbers.
    He tends to blow up when asked the tamest of questions.
    Like he did this morning, before skulking away for most of the daylight hours.”

    Yep…cowards do that.

  231. feelthebern

    Corporate functions these days are just so terrible.
    In the olden days you’d blow the roof off a place & when official gig finished, there was always an after party planned.
    I went to one last Christmas season that started at 6pm & they called last drinks at 8pm.
    Seriously.
    2 hours & then they kicked everyone out.

  232. Knuckle Dragger

    I was watching the Member for Dickson (that’s Dutton, Old Yeller) this morning on the teev.

    Some people criticise him.

    But he is much stronger and wiser than that.
    He calls what he sees.

  233. feelthebern

    After a few years of tame corporate gigs on Melbourne Cup day, I’m going to the races this year.
    Unless it rains of course.

  234. stackja

    Feelthebern – I believe parties today are regulated by PC rules.

  235. Boambee John

    One of the other points he made was that hate destroys both the haters and their targets.

    Lesson there for the seagull? Taking his own advice might be a good start?

  236. Frank

    Dahlia Dior

    Sounds like a porn name?

    Somene that writes for Salon.

  237. feelthebern

    Correct.
    At my last place of work, over a 17 period, it went from rip roaring gigs to having appropriate workplace behaviour policies emailed around on the morning of a party.
    Seriously.

  238. Tel

    … the German Army had depleted the “West Wall” defenses to mount the invasion of Poland, and how concerned they were at the threat of French attack.

    German invasion of Poland: 1st September 1939.
    British declaration of war: 3rd September 1939.

    No one was holding the French back, or preventing them rushing to the counter-attack.

    I should also point out that the Supermarine Spitfire had only become available in mid 1938 and not properly mass produced until 1939. The UK coastal radar stations were only just barely completed at the declaration of war. With the benefit of hindsight probably Chamberlain should have put British troops right in Poland as a defensive line very early, with the hope of being a deterrent, or at least delaying the invasion. That’s easy to say after the fact of course. The French could have put their own troops into Poland if they wanted to … better than surrendering.

  239. stackja

    KD – Dutton got rid of MT.

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