Open Forum: August 31, 2019

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  1. feelthebern

    Why would Morrison have a fund raiser at the Channel Nine studios?
    Is there a place with more camera’s in Sydney?
    It’s a fvcking trap.
    Stupid stupid liberals.

  2. Old Lefty

    An academic in the quantitative sciences produced an algorithm for would- be contributors to university alumni appeals. Start with a notional amount you think you’d like to give. Immediately subtract 20% for every vice-chancellor, deputy vice-chancellor, provost, Dean, deputy Dean etc who is paid more than the prime minister. In far too many cases, you will already be deeply in negative territory. Add back a bit if they still have Classics and philosophy, bit the impact will probably be marginal.

    Did an incident with a precious ABC luvvie remind anyone else of Tony Curtis on Marilyn Monroe – ‘like kissing Hitler’?

  3. Knuckle Dragger

    Gone are those days, bern. Apparently no matter where you hold the corporate gig it’s a workplace now.

    People are terrified punters will drink to excess, and perhaps fall through a glass window. And then blame the employer, despite no one threatening that they’ll come round and tear up their driveway unless they have a gutful of piss.

    Or even worse, a couple of highly consenting adults might get a quick knee-trembler in whilst out the back or in the dunny.

    You can’t put personal responsibility into the equation. The employer would have to concede that their drones are adults and/or human.

  4. Evening Troops

    Nice to be in the same time zone for a change

  5. stackja

    Tel – France preferred to wait behind the Maginot Line. What could possibly go wrong?

  6. Knuckle Dragger

    stack,

    Yes. Dutton did get rid of MT.
    He is strong and wise.
    He calls what he sees.

    *No I do not know Dutton.

    h/t Liability Bob

  7. feelthebern

    Are you in the country Carpe?

  8. Boambee John

    stackja
    #3146162, posted on September 2, 2019 at 8:21 pm
    Tel – I believe Saddam convinced most people he had WMD. Only after did doubts appear. Saddam gambled and lost.

    An Australian scientist on a UN inspection team admitted on Four Corners that Saddam had been bluffing, but that the bluff had convinced him (and he thought that probably Saddam’s generals also believed Iraq had CBW).

  9. Seco

    thefrollickingmole
    #3145195, posted on September 1, 2019 at 10:33 am

    Why have local audiences abandoned Adam Goodes and film, The Australian Dream?

    Because watching a film about an Aboriginal flog is as tedious as watching one about a white/Chinese or rainbow colored one>

    Prediction: This will become part of the curriculum before the end of the year.

    Well spotted, mole. Mandating it in schools will generate the royalties that people who have a choice about how to spend their money did not.

    The worse it goes in cinemas the quicker it will go in schools.

  10. Empire 5:5

    KD – Tomorrow, 3 September 1939.
    And Australia was at war with Germany too. Of course, leftists who supported Stalin were unhappy.

    Let us not forget that the Australian left fully supported Hitler for 22 months until the termination of the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact.

  11. Gab

    Empire 5.5 the reason young people ignore those things is because Hitler was a socialist but they refuse to see it. As Hitler himself said in his disgusting book, Mein Kampf, when describing that horrid flag he designed:

    As National Socialists, we see our program in our flag.

    Ignorant people who know history refuse to believe what Hitler himself stated. What hope for the young who have never been taught history.

  12. Steve trickler

    What’s on TV? This is interesting. Developers might be a future problem.



  13. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    No one was holding the French back, or preventing them rushing to the counter-attack.

    Only the French themselves – Gamelin’s offensive of 1939 was a very timid and perfunctory affair.

  14. Boambee John

    I was busy this morning, and don’t have time to scan back.

    What caused the numerical explosion this morning?

  15. zyconoclast

    Sugar-sweetened beverage consumption among Indigenous Australian children aged 0–3 years and association with sociodemographic, life circumstances and health factors

    Results:
    Half (50·7 %, n 473/933) of children had ever consumed SSB at survey, increasing from 29·3 % of 0–12 month-olds to 65·7 % of 18–36-month-olds. SSB consumption prevalence was significantly lower in urban and regional v. remote areas, and in families experiencing socio-economic advantage (area-level advantage, caregiver employed, financial security), better life circumstances (caregiver social support, limited exposure to stressors) and caregiver well-being (non-smoking, social and emotional well-being, physical health). SSB consumption prevalence was significantly lower among those engaged with health services (adequate health-service access, regular prenatal check-ups), except SSB consumption prevalence was higher among those who received home visits from an Aboriginal Health Worker compared with no home visits. Key informants highlighted the role of water quality/safety on SSB consumption.

    Conclusions:
    A substantial proportion of Indigenous children in this sample consumed SSB from an early age. Health provider information needs to be relevant to the context of families’ lives. Health system strategies must be paired with upstream strategies, such as holistic support programmes for families, reducing racism and improving water quality.

  16. MatrixTransform

    What caused the numerical explosion this morning?

    divide by zero … same as always

  17. feelthebern

    What caused the numerical explosion this morning?

    He’s working through the five stages of grief.

  18. Tel

    Tel – I believe Saddam convinced most people he had WMD. Only after did doubts appear. Saddam gambled and lost.

    There’s reasonably strong, first-hand witness evidence that scam artistry was involved.

    https://tomwoods.com/ep-606-she-saw-the-liars-up-close-lt-col-karen-kwiatkowski-on-the-iraq-war-propaganda/

    Saddam definitely had mustard gas during the Iran/Iraq war and the weapons inspectors already knew about it. Some of that was probably smuggled into the Sunni parts of Syria … years later to be used by Sunni insurgents (ISIS mostly) against Assad’s government troops. Other, rusting and decayed mustard gas artillery shells turned up in Iraqi warehouses … not battle-ready by any means but the US military got the dirty job of disposal and the NYT reported on it, although not many headlines.

    Mustard gas won’t do much to stop a modern high-tech military … it’s strategically useless other than to intimidate civilians. I think that the US military had a very good idea of Saddam’s capabilities at the time they invaded, but the so called intelligence was “sexed up” for political purposes.

  19. Knuckle Dragger

    I have long held the belief that the US and Russia were never allies in WW2.

    They were two junkyard dogs brawling over the carcass of a rabid mongoose.

    ‘The enemy of your enemy is my friend’ had a lot to do with it.

  20. feelthebern

    PM teeing off on KKK.

  21. zyconoclast

    I have long held the belief that the US and Russia were never allies in WW2.

    If the US had not been supplying finance and technology to the Soviets since the 1920s there would have been no Soviet Union to fight in WWII

  22. Knuckle Dragger

    Zyco,

    You haven’t lived till you’ve seen a bunch of indig toddlers being dragged down the street to the bottlo by Auntie, scarfing down the contents of baby milk bottles.

    Filled with Coke.

    But whitey.

  23. Empire 5:5

    Well spotted, mole. Mandating it in schools will generate the royalties that people who have a choice about how to spend their money did not.

    No one makes a motza out of this type of product, it’s about the ideology.

    Prior to the 10BA tax write-off of the 80s, the renaissance of Australian cinema was direct funded by the taxpayer in the 70s. This period culminated in Gallipoli and Breaker Morant. School kids of the 80s were religiously subjected to these films, complete with packaged lecture on the evils of colonialism from the teacher.

    The effectiveness of their soft propaganda was reflected in the psephology of the republic referendum 20 odd years later.

    These people are evil.

  24. Tel

    Tel – France preferred to wait behind the Maginot Line. What could possibly go wrong?

    Would have worked great … if they had been fighting the previous war.

  25. zyconoclast

    You haven’t lived…

    KD
    Thankfully, I have not seen this.

  26. Arky

    Last two LBC broadcasts Nigel Farage has looked very, very ill.
    Crucial timing: Likely outcome is a vote of no confidence in Johnson’s government, an election and Brexit put in limbo.
    Farage is required to put pressure on the conservatives to take a no deal Brexit to the election.

  27. zyconoclast

    U.S. Unleashes Military to Fight Fake News, Disinformation

    (Bloomberg) — Fake news and social media posts are such a threat to U.S. security that the Defense Department is launching a project to repel “large-scale, automated disinformation attacks,” as the top Republican in Congress blocks efforts to protect the integrity of elections.

    The Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency wants custom software that can unearth fakes hidden among more than 500,000 stories, photos, video and audio clips. If successful, the system after four years of trials may expand to detect malicious intent and prevent viral fake news from polarizing society.

    “A decade ago, today’s state-of-the-art would have registered as sci-fi — that’s how fast the improvements have come,” said Andrew Grotto at the Center for International Security at Stanford University. “There is no reason to think the pace of innovation will slow any time soon.”

    U.S. officials have been working on plans to prevent outside hackers from flooding social channels with false information ahead of the 2020 election. The drive has been hindered by Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s refusal to consider election-security legislation. Critics have labeled him #MoscowMitch, saying he left the U.S. vulnerable to meddling by Russia, prompting his retort of “modern-day McCarthyism.”

  28. Arky

    In no time in it’s history has Britain depended on one man as much as it now depends on Farage.
    Pray he stays well.

  29. Overburdened

    In pre war Germany, Goebbels created an environment of fake news, vilification of particular groups and a narrative of confected crisis.
    The brown shirts ran riot attacking the citizenry then claiming to be a reaction to oppression.
    At the time, dispassionate scrutiny of the situation was howled down by the regime of a certain bloke, painting his movement as victims when they were the persecutors.

    I’d like to that the token idiot for posting the report that the political situation today reminds a bloke that was there of those times.

    Own goal fool.

  30. Interruption Lotto is open

    Pony up on the thread beothces

  31. feelthebern

    Geez, it’s like panel on PM Live haven’t read Whatever It Takes.
    The term “Whatever it takes” refers to what Richo told his inner circle post Bob Hawke trying to move him on post one of his election wins.
    Bob offered Richo an ambassadorship to potentially France.
    Richo declined.
    Then said to his inner circle, “Whatever it takes….” then it changes depending on if you’re in mixed company.
    Essentially he said he was going to blast Bob out & replace him with PK.

  32. Empire 5:5

    Turn it off. It’s fake news and the games are rigged.

    Empire 5:5
    #3146118, posted on September 2, 2019 at 7:39 pm

    Which is why I don’t watch the program. I’m not going to waste the time I have left watching people put down my way of life.

    That’s my liberty quote of the week, Kev. Thank you.

    If every Australian who laments where we are at, stopped consuming the fakestream media-entertainment complex propaganda for just one year, our problems would soon be over.

    There is great power in restraint. It isn’t difficult. Turn it off.

  33. Tel

    I have long held the belief that the US and Russia were never allies in WW2.

    The Americans sent huge material supplies to the Soviets: aircraft, vehicles, food, clothing, and electronic / military equipment.

    It went under the name “Lend Lease” but in practice most of it was given away.

  34. Knuckle Dragger

    Seinfeld is on.

    The mannequin episode. Glory be.

  35. Mark A

    Arky
    #3146219, posted on September 2, 2019 at 9:07 pm

    Last two LBC broadcasts Nigel Farage has looked very, very ill.
    Crucial timing: Likely outcome is a vote of no confidence in Johnson’s government, an election and Brexit put in limbo.
    Farage is required to put pressure on the conservatives to take a no deal Brexit to the election.

    I’m watching the podcast of 29/08, he looks OK to me, though I don’t know how he should look.
    Not keeping a tab on him.

  36. mh

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    1s
    Since my election, many trillions of dollars of worth has been created for our Country, and the Stock Market is up over 50%. If you followed the advice of the Failing New York Times columnist, Paul Krugman, you’d be doing VERY poorly – you’d be angry and hurt. He never got it!

  37. Overburdened

    Bloody auto correct.

    I would like to thank the token idiot etc

  38. mh

    Last two LBC broadcasts Nigel Farage has looked very, very ill.

    Russian agents?

  39. Empire 5:5

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    1s
    Since my election, many trillions of dollars of worth has been created for our Country, and the Stock Market is up over 50%. If you followed the advice of the Failing New York Times columnist, Paul Krugman, you’d be doing VERY poorly – you’d be angry and hurt. He never got it!

    45 is to trolling as Lindrum was to billiards.

    https://youtu.be/bwKXxmBssPc

  40. Empire 5:5

    hzhousewife
    #3146275, posted on September 2, 2019 at 9:48 pm
    Nigel is a little unwell.

    The report is from 2015. Are you suggesting it’s a recurring ailment?

  41. Mark A

    Empire 5:5
    #3146289, posted on September 2, 2019 at 9:53 pm

    hzhousewife
    #3146275, posted on September 2, 2019 at 9:48 pm
    Nigel is a little unwell.

    The report is from 2015. Are you suggesting it’s a recurring ailment?

    If you read further down, he had an accident in a light-plane crash in 2010 and suffered permanent nerve damage.
    Nothing life threatening but causing excruciating pain from time to time.

  42. hzhousewife

    The report is from 2015. Are you suggesting it’s a recurring ailment?

    oops, apologies, top of the page was dated 01 September 2019…………………… did not read thoroughly, but it seems you are correct ! I posted it also because of the vaping (for JC and fellow travellers 🙂 )

  43. mh

    Woah. That pic of Nige lying in the plane wreckage is incredible.

    Never knew about that.

  44. Knuckle Dragger

    Finally.

    Two of Test cricket’s most experienced umpires, Marais Erasmus and Kumar Dharmasena will stand in the Fourth and Fifth Ashes Tests.

    Admittedly, Dharmasena cocked up the World Cup final super over, but they’ve got to be better than the first two.

  45. Today’s media carried the story that the big 4 banks have been charging their customers excessive fees to transfer money overseas. A few weeks ago I went to my local CBA branch to arrange transfer of a very large sum to my son in Germany. The young employee told me I would save thousands by using a service linked to Macquarie Bank. He was right and I did. I hope that young man survives and prospers in the banking world.

  46. Bruce in WA

    The Americans sent huge material supplies to the Soviets: aircraft, vehicles, food, clothing, and electronic / military equipment.

    It went under the name “Lend Lease” but in practice most of it was given away.

    American civilians loaned literally thousands of firearms to the British at the beginning of WWII, for Home Guard defence.

    As a measure of thanks after the war, the Poms collected all the guns and dropped them into the deepest part of the Channel.

  47. Robert Mc

    Everything in moderation.

    A mantra some people say they swear by in everyday life.

    But it doesn’t do a thing for spontaneity on a blog.

  48. Top Ender

    The religion of New York:

    Mayor Bill de Blasio has aggressively pushed a bike-friendly agenda, adding about 100 miles of dedicated lanes for cyclists amid a spike in rider collisions, but he’s done little to address the danger that bikers themselves pose.

    Since 2011, bicyclists have injured more than 2,250 pedestrians — including at least seven who died — according to stats from the city Department of Transportation and published reports.

  49. mh

    Did anyone watch 4 corners covering the Hong Kong protests?

    I would have watched if I had known the subject matter. It’s one ABC show that is occasionally ok. I’ll watch online tomorrow as long as I know it wasn’t pro Communist.

  50. JC

    mh

    Ask him what he’s doing about the deficit/spending?

  51. Mark A

    Rafiki redux
    #3146321, posted on September 2, 2019 at 10:08 pm

    Today’s media carried the story that the big 4 banks have been charging their customers excessive fees to transfer money overseas. A few weeks ago I went to my local CBA branch to arrange transfer of a very large sum to my son in Germany. The young employee told me I would save thousands by using a service linked to Macquarie Bank. He was right and I did. I hope that young man survives and prospers in the banking world.

    I been touting the virtues of Transferwise for years now, despite the fact that R Branson is also involved.
    Excellent service at unbeatable prices and exchange rates.

  52. Empire 5:5

    hzhousewife and Mark A – here is Nigel talking about the prang from 2010.

    https://youtu.be/ep3okY-DlVQ

  53. JC

    I been touting the virtues of Transferwise for years now, despite the fact that R Branson is also involved.
    Excellent service at unbeatable prices and exchange rates.

    Do you know who you’re dealing with, what balance sheet size they have, what is their equity?

    If it’s a small sum then no real biggie, but if it’s a big sum you really want to know these things because, you’re essentially handing over money to people who claim they will convert the funds into foreign currency and will make the remittance on your behalf as a spot transaction. That means two days will pass before the money sees the other side of the tunnel.

    Rafki, having an association with MacBank is not the same as doing a transaction with Macbank. Small sums are okay, because in the end you won’t be hurt too much, but large sums are another matter.

    Credit risk, folks. Credit risk.

  54. hzhousewife

    Thanks Empire. As he notes, his near-death experience has contributed to his fearlessness.

  55. Oh come on

    In no time in it’s history has Britain depended on one man as much as it now depends on Farage.
    Pray he stays well.

    Bloody hell, Arks. Keep your merkin on. Farage sounds a bit croaky, which suggests he has a dodgy throat, not terminal cancer.

  56. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Saddam Hussein certainly had chemical weapons during the Iran-Iraq War of 1980-88, yet by the time American and British troops entered the country in 2003 they were gone. Where?

    Interesting link, Top Ender, thank you. I do remember a theory that WMD were removed from Iraq to Syria, to prevent the Yanks getting their hands on them.

  57. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘ADF came second in both’

    Army guys!

    PHRASING.

  58. zyconoclast

    Argentina just brought in currency controls to contain the peso after it lost more than a quarter of its value in a month

    According to Reuters, the central bank of Argentina has “burned” through more than a billion dollars since Wednesday in order to give the peso some support.

    Last month, the South American country suffered the second-biggest crash of any stock market in the world since 1950, with the S&P Merval Index nosediving 48%.

  59. Top Ender

    Actually funny thing Zulu – we all were equipped with gas masks and had to do the chemical/bio weapons course before deploying into Iraq in the war.

    The masks all spent the duration in shipping containers scattered around Baghdad.

    There was a bit of a scare when the bad guys started deploying chlorine bombs though.

  60. zyconoclast

    The back-to-school question some believe we should ditch
    “What did you do on your summer break?”

    t came after a US-based writer posted an anecdote on Friday – earmarked as a “public service announcement” to teachers – about a friend’s child who had returned to school after unexpectedly losing a parent over the summer.
    She said the grieving child had completed the assigned task “in horrifying detail” about their tragic loss.

    Tiffany Grayson, who was raised by a single mother in Harbor Springs in Michigan, was one of many who pointed out that tasks like the “summer question” risk embarrassing students whose families have financial struggles, too.

    “This whole thread made me relive so much shame I had about these assignments,” the 34-year-old posted. “When classmates were like ‘Went to Europe!’ and I was like ‘only had the electricity cut off once’…”

  61. Bruce in WA

    Someone stop the world, please … I want to get off.

    A Perth vegan has taken her neighbours all the way to the Supreme Court, demanding they stop smoking, bouncing balls and even cooking barbecues in the backyard.

    Cilla Carden, from Girrawheen, in Perth’s northern suburbs said she’s fed up with the smell of meat cooking on the barbecue next door.

    “They’ve put it there so I smell fish, all I can smell is fish. I can’t enjoy my backyard, I can’t go out there.”
    Ms Carden, a massage therapist, is also furious at cigarette smoke wafting into her yard and the sound of children playing with basketballs next door.

    “It’s been devastating, it’s been turmoil, it’s been unrest, I haven’t been able to sleep,” she said.

    But one neighbour invited 9News into the backyard, to show that he’s removed the barbecue and told his children to stop playing basketball.

    Ms Carden is so upset she has taken her neighbours to the State Administrative Tribunal and the Supreme Court.

    “It’s deliberate, that’s what I told the courts, its deliberate.”

    But a Supreme Court Judge and the State Administrative Tribunal have sided with her neighbours, dismissing her case.

    Her request to appeal the decisions has also been refused.

    Ms Carden says she won’t give up on her fight and will return to court soon.

  62. zyconoclast

    ‘ADF came second in both’

    Mea culpa, adipem digitos,

  63. Bruce in WA

    Your comment is awaiting moderation.

    Really? It was basket b a l l s … I guess

  64. Mark A

    I’ve been dealing with Trans for years now, I can pick the rate, the time and other than weekends the transfer from OZ to Europe takes a day max, if I pick corresponding/mashing business hours on both continents it takes 4 hours.

  65. Knuckle Dragger

    PML showing footage of a bunch of nicely-attired Poms going into No.11 Downing St prior to Parliament sitting tomorrow.

    The security bloke at the back needs to get a one size bigger suit jacket, and to sew some sinkers or something into the waist seam.

    Otherwise it’s really noticeable when you’re wearing a pancake holster.

    Trap for young players. Apparently.

  66. mh

    It was Christians who were slaughtered in their hundreds in the terror attacks in Sri Lanka this year. Not Tamils, or anyone else.

    The Sri Lankan government has done nothing for the Christian community there. Only CHRISTIANS should be considered as refugees.

  67. JC

    What emerges most forcibly from this long list of mishaps is not so much that it is hard being a “spare” (Andrew used to be second in line; now he is ninth).

    Charles
    William
    William’s three kids
    Harry
    Harry’s kid
    ?
    Then Andrew. Who’s ?.

  68. mh

    Is there any way Merkel’s dad could become King?

  69. Knuckle Dragger

    In ye olden days, a monarch would try his guts out(!) for three sons.

    One as the heir, the second’s job was to be a warrior prince and the third’s gig, should he not have to come off the bench if one of the other two carked it was a religious career.

    Mind you, in the same olden days the Andrews and Harrys of this world would have joined forces and tried to take the throne by force, so there’s that.

  70. JC

    I think the moron at the London Times fucked up. Andy, Epstein’s bro is 8th, not 9th unless he’s counting the Queen and isn’t referring to succession. In this case he’s an idiot or perhaps he thought sticking him as ninth sounded even further away from the big chair and said it for more affect.

  71. Mark A

    mh
    #3146441, posted on September 2, 2019 at 10:56 pm

    Is there any way Merkel’s dad could become King?

    After 99% of the UK population is disqualified maybe, but even then, doubtful.

  72. Knuckle Dragger

    Henry VIII was groomed as the spear carrier, but got the top job when his older brother (Arthur, I think) dropped off the perch at 10 or so.

    Apparently he was world class at jousting and the military arts even after he was wearing the big hat, but got injured – which was apparently one of the reasons he became a fat bastard.

  73. mh

    After 99% of the UK population is disqualified maybe, but even then, doubtful.

    So you’re telling me there’s a chance…

  74. JC

    So you’re telling me there’s a chance…

    That reminds me of the nonsense that if you put a million monkeys together in front of the keypad for a billion years, one of them will come up randomly with a great novel. That’s just bullshit.

  75. Knuckle Dragger

    Macbeth did it right.

    Be a long way from actual succession, yet close enough to be a pain in the arse. Knock off Number 1, and become Number 1.

    Have plenty of fun times being King until you’re hunted down and disembowelled by the son of your nemesis, thus writing the script of almost every action movie for the next thousand years.

    Good times.

  76. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Henry VIII was groomed as the spear carrier, but got the top job when his older brother (Arthur, I think) dropped off the perch at 10 or so.

    Henry’s older brother was Arthur, he dropped off the perch just short of his seventeenth birthday, and there was a dogfight over whether Arthur had consummated his marriage to Catherine of Aragon, who went on to become the first Mrs Henry VIII. Had Arthur become King, Henry would probably have gone into the Church.

  77. Tintarella di Luna

    Would Princess Anne be 8th in line?

  78. JC

    26 letters of the alphabet

    26 letters. possible number of points is 26.
    That means there are 403,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 permutations. 1 million Monkey’s couldn’t do it for the period of the universe’s existence.

  79. Arky

    Now work out the probability of accidentally creating the first self- replicating organism.

  80. Knuckle Dragger

    Zulu,

    Ta. Thought I was close. Was terrified for a bit that I’d cocked it up, and risk getting Liability Bobbed all over the joint.

    Then I’d have to tell a story about rescuing some noggie kids or something to save face.

  81. Mark A

    mh
    #3146448, posted on September 2, 2019 at 11:04 pm

    After 99% of the UK population is disqualified maybe, but even then, doubtful.

    So you’re telling me there’s a chance…

    As long as one is alive there is always a chance.
    How small a chance? Monkeys writing War and Peace by randomly hitting typewriter keys chance?

  82. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Zulu,

    Ta. Thought I was close. Was terrified for a bit that I’d cocked it up, and risk getting Liability Bobbed all over the joint.

    You’re welcome. FWIW, the best way of remembering the fate of Good King Henry’s wives was “Divorced, beheaded, she died, divorced, beheaded, she lived.”

  83. MatrixTransform

    monkeys typing.

    …we’re part of the experiment

  84. JC

    Now work out the probability of accidentally creating the first self- replicating organism.

    I know. It’s infinity. Infinity is about as close as you could get to it. Cells are incredibly complex that we still don’t understand. Then add in the complexity of say putting those cells together and creating a human mind. Mind you, they have to be in the exact position to fire up. There’s no time in the universe that’s passed and ahead that could account for randomly putting shit like that together.

  85. Arky

    Infinity is about as close as you could get to it.

    ..
    It would be like tripping over a jumbo jet in the desert that had just randomly assembled itself, with the instructions inside as how to make it.

  86. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Then I’d have to tell a story about rescuing some noggie kids or something to save face.

    “Noggie” is a word I haven’t heard for some time…

  87. Fisky

    Farage urgently needs to get his hands on the RBG magic life-extension potion. Even the life-extension is optional because everyone knows RBG died years ago, but a convincing body double should do the trick…

  88. Fisky

    I have long held the belief that the US and Russia were never allies in WW2.

    The USSR were passing on allied cables to the Japanese as late as 1943. Yes, Numbers, that’s right, the glorious Soviet Union, fresh from being Nazi Germany’s main supplier of raw materials (and also third party purchaser as such on world markets) in 1939-41, would continue to knife us in the back as long as they could get away with it.

  89. MatrixTransform

    Stimpyyyyyyyyyyy! Look at this.

    mid 50s … still got all the hair.

    if only I could dance …

  90. Mark A

    I’m sure you can at least do the last “dance” didn’t watch the others but this one intrigued me.

  91. Mark A

    MatrixTransform
    #3146475, posted on September 3, 2019 at 12:08 am

    I was referring to this!!

  92. MatrixTransform

    my fave too.
    though, I do like the russians

  93. JC

    Cannon-Brookes is reported in the Oz as supporting what is called the coming climate strike.

    A group of business leaders ­including Australia’s fourth-­richest, Mike Cannon-Brookes, has pledged support for September 20’s “climate crisis” strike led by youth activists, and are encouraging their staff to take part.

    The group calling itself “Not Business as Usual” is led by ­Future Super, Atlassian, KeepCup and energy wholesaler Amber. It includes mostly technology and energy businesses such as Small Giants, Energy Lab and Startmate.

    Atlassian boss Mr Cannon-Brookes, who last year started a renewable energy movement dubbed Fair Dinkum Power, said he was supporting Atlassian staff who wanted to join the strike and would probably do so himself.

    “At Atlassian, one of our core values is ‘Don’t @#$% the Customer’. This year, we’re taking that a step further with ‘Don’t @#$% the Planet’,” he said in a blog post.

    “Humanity faces a climate change emergency. It’s a crisis that demands leadership and ­action. But we can’t rely on governments alone. Sadly, in Australia, we can’t rely on them at all.

    “Businesses and individuals must also play their part and this responsibility is even more urgent when governments fail.”

    There must must something going on at Atlassian because it has a market cap of $33 billion. Last year the business lost $630 million from continuing operations. It’s revenues were about 1.2 billion. When there’s no profit in these tech firms people look at revenues to price. That’s 27.5 times sales. It’s pretty hefty and Brookes better start thinking about this instead of the next climate strike.

  94. classical_hero

    Arky might have boobs, but can he dance in the shower?

  95. Mark A

    classical_hero
    #3146483, posted on September 3, 2019 at 1:16 am

    Arky might have boobs, but can he dance in the shower?

    You people are weird.

  96. Tom

    If you thought David Rowe would learn something from the upsurge in country shopping, you were wrong.

  97. DrBeauGan

    I want to see Maria’s bank book because I want to know how much she’s got in it and how often she makes deposits and withdrawals. If I weren’t contemplating contributing it would be none of my business, but now it is. I also want to know what the school fees are and how often she, or the child’s father, pay them. In fact, I’m very short of information on how to help her and the child. The role of the father is less than clear. I can’t just usurp it.

    I don’t know if Maria is a hooker or not. I have very little information about her and she prefers to tell me what she thinks I want to hear. It’s a bullshit world everywhere, but double that for Cuba.

    No, I don’t trust her. I don’t trust anyone. It would be folly to trust a Cuban. They are all on the make. It’s what you expect in a poor country. It’s how they survive.

    Predicting them works better. You just have to work out where they believe their self-interest lies. And they’re usually wrong about that too.

  98. Mark A

    Study in Cuba for foreign students, as of last year.
    For Cubans all education is free bar books an stuff.

  99. Mark A

    Tom, is that it? or upset with interruption and sulking?

  100. Mark A

    Interwebs must be broken, OK I admit ’twas me.
    Sorry🤳

  101. Mater

    Radio New Zealand reports that 35 Kiwis have been charged by police for holding the now-banned video of the March shooting.
    The country’s Chief Censor classified the video as objectionable, meaning to knowingly possess it in New Zealand can attract a prison term of up to 14 years.

    Wow.
    Welcome to the future, people.

  102. Mark A

    Mater
    #3146496, posted on September 3, 2019 at 5:37 am

    Radio New Zealand reports that 35 Kiwis have been charged by police for holding the now-banned video of the March shooting.
    The country’s Chief Censor classified the video as objectionable, meaning to knowingly possess it in New Zealand can attract a prison term of up to 14 years.

    Wow.
    Welcome to the future, people.

    Future?
    You mean the present of course.
    I don’t wish to view the video but should I want to I can’t see any harm , or not more than watching a violent Hollywood flick.

  103. Leigh Lowe

    DrBeauGan

    #3146491, posted on September 3, 2019 at 4:13 am

    I want to see Maria’s bank book …

    Ask for a squizz at her money-maker.

  104. Mark A

    feelthebern
    #3146498, posted on September 3, 2019 at 5:49 am

    From Snowden’s twitter.

    https://privacyinternational.org/long-read/3164/two-states-admit-bulk-interception-practices-why-does-it-matter


    No one cares.

    Everyday, normal people don’t care for much outside their immediate interests.
    It takes a lot for them to become involved.

    Some on the other hand!
    I’m studying European history at the mo, I never realised that in every uprising and revolutions there were a surprisingly great number of foreign individuals in the leadership involved.

    They flocked to these events like flies to a BBQ.
    Anyone familiar with participants of Eureka?

  105. rickw

    American civilians loaned literally thousands of firearms to the British at the beginning of WWII, for Home Guard defence.

    As a measure of thanks after the war, the Poms collected all the guns and dropped them into the deepest part of the Channel.

    The Second Amendment helped save Britain after they’d been stupid enough to destroy their own.

  106. Herodotus

    The BBC’s coverage of hurricane Dorian included speculation about whether its ferocity, indeed its very existence at all, was down to climate change. They ran an interview with someone claiming that the Bahamas have been disappearing bit by bit for years due to climate change.

  107. Mark A

    Re. my last post, those wishing to get involved in the uprisings didn’t have a lot of problems as far as information is concerned.
    Or travel for that matter.

    Fancy that!
    And we think we are the bees’ knees when it comes to instant communication, maybe we are as far as instant goes, but those old timers were no slouches either.

  108. 1735099

    As a measure of thanks after the war, the Poms collected all the guns and dropped them into the deepest part of the Channel.

    With the benefit of hindsight, given the comparative firearm death rate between the UK and the USA*, the Brits probably got this one right.

    *UK – .23 per 100000
    USA – 12.21 per 100000

  109. Mark A

    Playing with fire here.
    What does it prove Numbers?
    Total death rate by violent means would be more helpful but still not decisive.
    Culture is king in these behaviors and if you want to kill someone you find a way.

  110. stackja

    Dad fights conviction for assault of son, 5, arguing he was disciplining bad behaviour

    A police officer who disciplined his son by throwing him on the bed after bad behaviour during under-5 soccer matches has been convicted of assault.
    Janet Fife-Yeomans, Exclusive, The Daily Telegraph
    Subscriber only

    September 2, 2019 11:21pm

    A police officer who disciplined his son by throwing him on the bed after bad behaviour during under-5 soccer matches has been convicted of assault.

    But the 44-year-old father is now appealing the conviction in the District Court, referring to a section of the Crimes Act allowing parents to use force for “lawful correction”.

    In a case that has focused attention on how much physical force is too much to punish a child, the court was told the man, who cannot be named because it would identify his son, had earlier been acquitted in Sutherland Local Court of two counts of assault but convicted on one count.

    The father-of-three referred Judge David Arnott to a little-used section of the NSW Crimes Act, 61AA, which states “lawful correction” is a defence for parental force against their child if it was “reasonable having regard to the age, health, maturity or other characteristics of the child, the nature of the alleged misbehaviour or other circumstances”.

    “Parents have the right to correct their children’s behaviour,” the officer, who has been suspended as a senior constable until the outcome of the hearing, told the court.

    His estranged wife, the mother of the children, sat with the prosecution during the hearing. Judge Arnott ­reserved his judgment.

  111. calli

    I think the moron at the London Times fucked up. Andy, Epstein’s bro is 8th, not 9th unless he’s counting the Queen and isn’t referring to succession. In this case he’s an idiot or perhaps he thought sticking him as ninth sounded even further away from the big chair and said it for more affect.

    Anne is Number 8, JC.

    The law changed to allow the girls in in birth order, not as a last resort.

  112. calli

    MatrixTransform
    #3146475, posted on September 3, 2019 at 12:08 am

    The noise reminded me of the sing-sing at the Highlands Show. The costumes, not so much.

  113. None

    His estranged wife, the mother of the children, sat with the prosecution during the hearing. Judge Arnott ­reserved his judgment.

    Money on she’s a prize bitch. If I were they judged and was happy with the father’s character Ida quitting and awarding custody. Women who play games in court in order to turn their children against their fathers really need to be jailed instead.

  114. Eyrie

    I’m looking forward to the coming civil war between cyclists and pedestrians in New York. I can think of a number of ways to screw up cyclists. As Tim Blair calls them – road lice.

  115. calli

    This is top of the pops right now at ABC Just In.

    Widely discussed (including here) last week.

    Hardly Breaking News, but with 1.2billion pa, we have to lower our expectations.

  116. calli

    None, I wonder who witnessed the incident.

    We have stumbled into a post-evidence world.

  117. Knuckle Dragger

    Rarely do I comment on internal US matters.

    However, after the daily pleasure of viewing Tom’s work, I was reminded – is California still banging on loud and long about secession from the rest of the US? If not, why not?

    DJT should offer it to Denmark in exchange for Greenland. Hell, he could still buy Greenland and throw Calli-for–niy-yay in for free to sweeten the deal.

    Are all the street sweeping and water cannon trucks made in Nebraska or something?

  118. Mater

    What does it prove Numbers?
    Total death rate by violent means would be more helpful but still not decisive.
    Culture is king in these behaviors and if you want to kill someone you find a way.

    Yes. Interesting to note from Bob’s reference that Australia and New Zealand have almost identical rates of firearm deaths (per 100,000) despite NZ having more than twice the number of guns per head of population and far less restrictive gun laws (including ownership of semi automatics).
    We also have a higher gun homicide rate.
    It’s definitely not just about gun ownership, gun control or the types of guns available.

  119. stackja

    The court heard that the boy had exhibited bad behaviour at home and been involved in fights on the soccer field. He has since been diagnosed with ADHD.

    Police were alerted by the five-year-old boy’s school after he attended with a bruise to the side of his head.

    The prosecution had claimed that the day before, the dad had dropped his son on his head. The dad said he had picked up his son in his arms to carry him to the bedroom but the boy struggled, slapped his dad on the face and fell.

    The dad was acquitted of that charge of assault causing actual bodily harm. He was acquitted of a second assault charge involving a bruise on the boy’s leg. A doctor had given evidence that he could not rule out that the boy’s injuries were caused by the fall from his dad’s arms.

    Crown prosecutor Marguerite Vassall said the dad had been convicted of assault after then “throwing him on the bed and shaking him”.

    The prosecution agreed it was over in a “matter of seconds” and the boy was not injured.

    The man told the court he had “bounced” his son on the bed to move him from the bed onto the pillow. He said his son had a history of hitting people and it had to stop. “As a parent disciplining their child, a degree of fear is involved by way of stopping when you tell them to stop and not hit people,” he said. “(The boy) in my opinion has problems with his behaviour hence why I disciplined (him).”

  120. rickw

    With the benefit of hindsight, given the comparative firearm death rate between the UK and the USA*, the Brits probably got this one right.

    *UK – .23 per 100000
    USA – 12.21 per 100000

    Obsessed over death by firearm in a country that he despises?! (But not homicide rates, being stabbed to death in London is an honourable gun free death!)

    Numbers despises a People that are truly Free and who have the means to ensure that it stays that way.

  121. Knuckle Dragger

    Throwing a child onto a bed. Dear God.

    Clearly, there is something missing from the media and/or court reports. That bastard has obviously wrapped the kiddie in barbed wire, set him on fire, grabbed him by the ankles and, woodchopping-style, flung him onto the bed (covered in poisonous ants and broken glass) thirty or forty times while chanting Satanic phrases.

    Or, as None put it, she’s a prize bitch – hunting for excuses to crucify hubby.

    I actually don’t care what hubby did or didn’t do. He must have thought the ‘woman’ in question was all right once upon a time, because he married her – but whatever the reason it went bad, using the kids as human shields in court is very, very poor form.

  122. calli

    Thank you Stacks. Paywalling makes getting the gist of a story difficult.

    Sounds like a very angry little boy. ADHD? Maybe. Far easier to drug the child than address the problem.

  123. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘He said his son had a history of hitting people and it had to stop.’

    At the risk of horrifying the pearl-clutchers, I will make the outlandish statement that small children are much like dogs and cricketers.

    They are pack animals and will explore their way through a pecking order process until they find their boundaries. If they’re constantly belting people their own age, a tap or two from Mum or Dad sorts them out. As evidence, I offer thousands of years of parenthood.

  124. stackja

    Simon Squires pleads guilty to threatening MP Anthony Roberts

    A Sydney man pleaded guilty to threatening Anthony Roberts, saying he got a bit emotional at the height of the abortion bill debate. Simon Squires took aim at the NSW MP and his mum.
    Perry Duffin, The Daily Telegraph
    Subscriber only

    September 2, 2019 12:39pm

    A self-confessed “political junkie” said he was “a bit emotional” when he threatened a NSW minister because of his stance on abortion laws.

    Simon Squires, 58, called the Gladesville office of Lane Cove MP Anthony Roberts after midday on August 12 and fired a volley of comments down the phone.

    “Tell Anthony to keep looking over his shoulder,” he told the office worker who had picked up the phone at the Counter Terrorism and Corrections Minister’s office according to court documents.

    “You don’t know who will be there or what they will be carrying.”

    Squires rambled that Mr Roberts’ mother was a prostitute in the 63-second call, the documents say.

    Police were notified and Ryde detectives quickly traced the call to Squires’ mobile.

    They arrested him two days later at his Hornsby home.

    He told officers he “just got worked up” when he made the calls.

    Squires fronted Burwood Local Court on Monday where he pleaded guilty to one count of using a carriage service to menace, harass or offend.

    He said he made the call because he was upset about the way some conservative politicians were challenging proposed abortion legislation.

    “I was a bit emotional to see a number of Coalition MPs, Anthony Roberts among them, plotting against Premier Gladys Berejiklian while she was overseas,” he told the Telegraph outside Burwood Local Court on Monday.

    “I rang up to put my two-bob in and maybe I got a bit emotional and used the wrong terminology.”

    Squires told Magistrate Alison Viney his words were intended to be “robust political discussion” and were “misinterpreted”.

    “Maybe it would be better if I used the language of Alan Jones, he doesn’t get charged,” Squires said.

    Magistrate Viney responded that there were plenty of ways to express political opinions in Australia — but Squires’ phone call had been “childish” and a cause for “significant concern”.

    Squires was ordered to be of good behaviour for 12 months or he would forfeit $500 and could face further penalties.

    He was not given a conviction.

  125. Knuckle Dragger

    Also, any adult on this planet who truly believes you can have a reasoned argument with any child under eight years old is an idiot.

  126. stackja

    Most 1940s children didn’t seem to have the problems of discipline. Parents were parents, if a child needed extra discipline the local policeman could call around and offer it. Why involve courts in such minor issues?

  127. Mother Lode

    As long as one is alive there is always a chance.
    How small a chance? Monkeys writing War and Peace by randomly hitting typewriter keys chance?

    If you want to maximise your chances you should redefine the probability parameters.

    Make it the chances of a monkey randomly tapping keys on a typewriter producing a Gurniad story (including obligatory typos).

    Do that and you can get your bonce measured for a jewel encrusted golden hat that very afternoon.

  128. DrBeauGan

    There don’t appear to be private schools in Cuba, and Maria doesn’t pay fees. She has to buy a uniform, and books, and to pay the school 3cuc a day for meals. This is a ten am snack, a cooked lunch and an afternoon snack.

    I’ve contributed to the uniform, and she looks very cute in it. Much like the other kids, white socks and all. She seems happy with school on her first day. Previously she was in pre-school and Maria gave her food to take with her. So it’s mainly books and food and occasional updates to the uniform.

    The father has minimal contact and does not contribute. He has a new wife and daughter, so Diaboli is rather excluded.

    This is the story told by Maria. I believe some of it.

  129. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Why involve courts in such minor issues?’

    Because Mumsy, in this instance (note: I didn’t say all women – dodged that one) is a demented fuckwit who for one reason or another is using any and all means at her disposal to sink Dad, and she’s probably bankrupting her own parents to do it.

    Bet your bottom dollar too, she’s put half a dozen equally spurious domestic violence orders in against hubby. The reason for this would be that once the subject of such an order, you become ineligible to possess or carry, let alone use, firearms.

    Which puts old mate behind a desk, thus subjecting him to a financial penalty (not receiving allowances for night shifts, etc) for the entire length of the order (two years, usually) plus five years after that.

  130. Mater

    Why involve courts in such minor issues?

    Probably a divorce settlement in the offing. The AVO box is now ticked. Now for the next item on the divorce lawyers checklist…

  131. Mother Lode

    In other literary matters, if you had a typewriter custom built with only two keys – the comma and the other with the whole word ‘mate’, you could have Peter Fitzsimian book in three days.

    You could call it ‘Plucky Laconic Larrikin Aussie Battlers at El Alamein’.

    Give the monkey a medicinally irresponsible amount of caffeine and sugar (and a small dose of amphetamines if you know the right people) and you could have a book series in a week.

    ‘Plucky Laconic Larrikin Aussie Battlers at Waterloo’

    ‘Plucky Laconic Larrikin Aussie Battlers at the Alamo’

    ‘Plucky Laconic Larrikin Aussie Battlers at the Palace Having Tea with The Queen’

    I wonder how Fitzsimian gets along with his fellow progressives when history comes up: He lionises those predominately white straight men, while his progressive peers instead see brutish savages swept up in genocidal rages against Aborigines who are also alcoholic wife beaters that molest their own children.

    I suppose they have all developed reflexes such that, when the conversation drifts toward the topic, someone instinctively mentions Global Warming, or Howard, or Abbott, or Trump, or Wussians (who our lamentably barren creatives will, adopting yet another cause from the US, soon start blaming for Trumble’s downfall and Morro’s ascent).

  132. egg_

    Now work out the probability of accidentally creating the first self- replicating organism.

    That’s where the Evolutionists come unstuck – there has to be a set of rules guiding the process.

  133. egg_

    As evidence, I offer thousands of years of parenthood.

    Unfortunately, the Left are children/pack animals.

  134. Shy Ted

    Poor, poor Leigh. All she has to do is wait 30 years and then contact Tracey Spicer and Louise Milligan.

  135. Knuckle Dragger

    Lode,

    +1

    Fair dinkum, cobber.

  136. Mother Lode

    Mother Lode
    Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    #3146538, posted on September 3, 2019 at 7:39 am

    For the love of all that’s holy!

    I used a word synonymous with ‘gem’, starts with a ‘j’, end in ‘el’, and has ‘ew’ in between.

  137. Knuckle Dragger

    What the hell is going on with the four Dark Judges up top?

    Are they some sort of Darth Vader to Dredd’s Skywalker or something?

    The burning Judge. Yowza. *shivers*

  138. Mother Lode

    Mother Lode
    Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    #3146538, posted on September 3, 2019 at 7:39 am

    Well I am stumped.

    I cannot for the life of me imagine what is wrong with it.

  139. egg_

    New Republic Editor in Chief Win McCormack

    Years later, in the ’80s, when I was studying and writing about the Indian guru Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh and his aggressive cult in central Oregon for Oregon Magazine, I had another, more direct encounter with the existence and palpability of real evil. At his ashram in India, before he came to Oregon, Rajneesh had involved his followers in prostitution throughout Asia, international drug smuggling, and violent-encounter groups in which occurred numerous rapes (in the name of sexual liberation) as well as physical abuse resulting in at least one death. Rajneesh forced his women followers into abortions and sterilizations (he didn’t countenance childbearing). In Oregon, Rajneesh followers were eventually implicated in the poisoning of restaurant patrons in The Dalles, the seat of Wasco County, with salmonella, and the attempted poisonings of two Wasco County commissioners, in a plot to gain control of the Wasco County Commission so that the incorporation of the city Rajneeshpuram, which Rajneesh megalomaniacally aspired to build, would be approved. Examining the history and behavior of Rajneesh honed my sense that evil and an evil path in life are, at least in key cases, deliberately and consciously chosen.

    Rajneesh mesmerized his followers with a stupefying amalgam of Eastern mystical mumbo jumbo (Rajneesh, like Charles Manson, talked frequently about the need to “lose” or “give up” the ego) and the language and techniques of the then-prevalent humanistic psychology and human potential movements. Nathaniel Brandon, a humanistic psychologist of the era, after reading some of Rajneesh’s literature in 1978, noted that Rajneesh “explains and justifies the slaughter of Jews throughout history,” and wrote that “almost from the beginning I have had the feeling that this is a man who is deeply, deeply evil—evil on a scale almost outside the limits of the human imagination.” Rajneesh adherent Shannon Jo Ryan, whose father, Congressman Leo Ryan, was gunned down at Jonestown, once stated: “I’ve heard other people say that if [Rajneesh] asked them to kill themselves, they would do it. If [Rajneesh] asked them to kill someone else, they would do it … I don’t know if my trust in him is that total. I would like it to be.” Rajneesh himself said the following: “When you surrender, you have surrendered all possibility of saying no. Whatsoever the situation, you will not say no.”

  140. egg_

    New Republic Editor in Chief Win McCormack

    Years later, in the ’80s, when I was studying and writing about the Indian guru Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh and his aggressive cult in central Oregon for Oregon Magazine, I had another, more direct encounter with the existence and palpability of real evil.

  141. Tom

    DJT should offer it to Denmark in exchange for Greenland. Hell, he could still buy Greenland and throw Calli-for–niy-yay in for free to sweeten the deal.

    I don’t think this conundrum need simply function as a gaming opportunity for the master troll in the White House. The one thing the Democrats are addicted to is political power and secession would give them total control of the Third World shithole they have created in California, which would nevertheless have the world’s fifth biggest economy.

    Secession would also allow the Dems to further flood California with the dregs of central America, creating a permanent welfare-dependent underclass who vote 90% for the DNC.

    For the Dems outside of California, with Trump in the White House, that is just a pipedream. Secession would give the Dems control not only of the Californian GDP of $US3 trillion (more than double the size of the Australian economy), but the ability to raise an army to fight the United States they loathe like the Mexicans did.

    Would the Dems be able to resist the lure of unchallenged political power over 40 million people? Not with the aphrodisiac of a one-party state on the table and the chance of training up Antifa into a national liberation army to terrorise not only the citizens of California, but the gringoes of North America to the east.

    No need to get Denmark involved, Trumpy. Just put a serious succession plan on the table.

  142. Farmer Gez

    Also, any adult on this planet who truly believes you can have a reasoned argument with any child under eight years old is an idiot.

    They’re dangerous little buggers to boot.
    I remember a non disciplined kid at our daughters Kinder who would walk up behind other kids and hit them with anything he could get his hands on.

    Our daughter squared up at the library one day. The boy wasn’t looking and our girl walked up and shoved him in the back, nose first, onto the floor.

    My wife was horrified but the Librarian just shrugged and said he’d had it coming for a long time.

  143. Cassie of Sydney

    “Shy Ted
    #3146547, posted on September 3, 2019 at 7:55 am
    Poor, poor Leigh. All she has to do is wait 30 years and then contact Tracey Spicer and Louise Milligan.”

    I’m surprised that the man in question hasn’t already been arrested and charged.

  144. egg_

    I want to see Maria’s bank book …

    Ask for a squizz at her money-maker.

    “Sitting on a Million dollars”.

  145. mh

    Maria needs to get to Florida if she wants to take whoring seriously.

  146. 1735099

    But wait – doesn’t open carry keep everyone safe?
    You know – the good guy with the gun will always be there…..

  147. egg_

    the Third World shithole they have created in California,

    Amen.
    Leftism hurts.

  148. Tom

    Breaking: Khawaja out, Starc in for the fourth test.

    They’ve finally got it right — a pity as it will probably be a draw with rain forecast for Manchester on four of the five days.

  149. feelthebern

    Snowden should have waited for Obama to leave office before going public.
    Then the press would have gone nuts over it.

  150. egg_

    Maria needs to get to Florida if she wants to take whoring seriously.

    Lotsa sugar daddies for the sugar baby.

  151. Gilas

    DrBeauGan
    #3146491, posted on September 3, 2019 at 4:13 am

    …I don’t know if Maria is a hooker or not….

    After the greatest saga recounting since the Nibelungs and the Norse Gods..

    If you don’t know it by now…

  152. C.L.

    Via Ace, The Rageaholic deals with Joe Biden … memorably:

  153. Dave in Marybrook

    Sales, according to the account, screamed, and said “Hashtag Me Too!” into the mic, and then carried on.
    I don’t think she missed a beat, and doth complaineth in retrothpect, probably after getting “woked” by a third party.

  154. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I used a word synonymous with ‘gem’, starts with a ‘j’, end in ‘el’, and has ‘ew’ in between.

    Yep. It will get you into mods every time. So easy to forget this one, but look at it on the positive side.
    It limits my comments about diamonds. An unintended consequence of Sinc’s ban on the ‘j’ word I am sure, for he has commented himself on the virtues or otherwise of compressed coal as a store of value, but a relief to some here who fail to scroll as they should when annoyed. 🙂

  155. feelthebern

    Whoever is in the White house will dictate the outrage directed at events.
    Example gun control in the US.
    The punters who are up on their hind legs about the US & guns were a lot less noisy when Obama was in the White house.
    Same thing with Snowden’s information.

  156. egg_

    …I don’t know if Maria is a hooker or not….

    What’s her “c0ck mileage”?
    /Dot

  157. Tel

    I’m surprised that the man in question hasn’t already been arrested and charged.

    People of left leaning political opinions generally get away with it.

    Leigh Sales has the choice of hanging around with people who support personal property rights, and have respect for individuals … but those type of people have the wrong politics.

  158. Bruce of Newcastle

    Burning down the house to save the world!

    LA Times: Tesla Residential Solar Panels Bursting into Flames

    Following reports of Tesla solar panels catching fire at Walmart and Amazon locations, residential owners are now claiming that Tesla solar panels on their homes are now causing fires.

    The LA Times claims that an individual named David Burek found melted connector wiring from the Tesla solar panels installed on the roof of his house in North Dartmouth, Massachusetts, and called firefighters who discovered that flames had burned through the shingles, roof, and a support beam.

    Another man in Waldorf, Maryland, named Ken Tomasello claims a fire broke out at his home that caused a section of the ceiling to crash into the house; the house was so badly damaged that Tomasello and his wife were forced to live in a hotel for more than a year. Both homes had installed Tesla solar rooftop panels.

    So far my impression is the insurance companies dare not restrict insurance in case of backlash from the green Left. But that will change as more and more of these incidents force them to either increase premiums for people with solar panels or refuse insurance completely.

  159. DrBeauGan

    After the greatest saga recounting since the Nibelungs and the Norse Gods..

    A slight exaggeration. The niebelungenlied has more dead bodies.

    It’s not altogether black and white. A girl can have lots of sex with different blokes and take her reward in other forms than cash on the nail.

    She can marry one of them. For instance. The feminists who proclaimed that marriage is legalised prostitution do have a case.

  160. John Constantine

    Team harmony will not be served by having the drinks being run out by the quota filler.

    The cricket board will need optical diversity when they film the next promotional clip.

    Swap Waleed ibn ranatunga for Rahkeem Cornwall, at least crickets Marisa Payne will whole heartedly chase in the field.

  161. Empire 5:5

    feelthebern
    #3146567, posted on September 3, 2019 at 8:18 am
    Snowden should have waited for Obama to leave office before going public.
    Then the press would have gone nuts over it.

    Except he isn’t who he says he is. Snowden was made at The Farm. He is one of them.

  162. Mother Lode

    Following reports of Tesla solar panels catching fire at Walmart and Amazon locations, residential owners are now claiming that Tesla solar panels on their homes are now causing fires.

    I wonder what sort of gases that releases.

    Surely nothing as toxic as CO2.

  163. Black Ball

    Good morning.
    John Constantine, surely there would be a Sudanese cricketer on the radar. They just need to use the bats on the cricket ground, rather than other people.

  164. egg_

    tripping over a jumbo jet in the desert that had just randomly assembled itself

  165. Percy Popinjay

    if you put a million monkeys together in front of the keypad for a billion years, one of them will come up randomly with a great novel

    Or failing that, Bronco ‘bama’s stimulus bill.

  166. John Constantine

    New Zealand’s tooth fairy has grabbed a grand total of seventeen thousand guns as jacindamania went to disarm the proles.

    Unleashing the crushing power of the State to invade the homes and confiscate the personal property of all those that dissent against Stalin is something she is forced to do.

    Comrades.

  167. mh

    Alan Jones just said the children of the non refugee Tamils have just had their lives destroyed forever.

    He’s such a dill.

  168. 1735099

    Recent mass shootings in Texas:
    + West Texas on Aug. 31, 2019: 8 killed, including shooter
    + El Paso on Aug. 3, 2019: 22 killed
    + Santa Fe on May 18, 2018: 10 killed
    + Sutherland Springs on Nov. 5, 2017: 27 killed
    + Dallas police ambush on July 7, 2016: 6 killed
    And they deregulate further?
    Madness.

  169. The Barking Toad

    New Zealand’s tooth fairy……

    I’m stealing that

  170. stackja

    The Mae West was a common nickname [7] for the first inflatable life preserver, which was invented in 1928 by Peter Markus (1885–1974) (US Patent 1694714), with his subsequent improvements in 1930 and 1931. The nickname originated because someone wearing the inflated life preserver often appeared to be as large-breasted as the actress Mae West.[8] It was popular during the Second World War with U.S. Army Air Forces and Royal Air Force servicemen, who were issued inflatable Mae Wests as part of their flight gear. Air crew members whose lives were saved by use of the Mae West (and other personal flotation devices) were eligible for membership in the Goldfish Club.

  171. John Constantine

    Their Australian cricket board must have war gamed naming Catherine McGregor as a Brierly style specialist captain.

    Would solve a lot of problems, until Joffra went headhunting.

  172. stackja

    mh
    #3146592, posted on September 3, 2019 at 8:49 am

    AJ should put a sock in it.

  173. egg_

    if you put a million monkeys together in front of the keypad for a billion years, one of them will come up randomly with a great novel

    In what language?

  174. mh

    Numbers, that still doesn’t come anywhere near your body count out in ‘Nam.

  175. egg_

    Monkeys writing War and Peace by randomly hitting typewriter keys chance?

    Russian monkeys?

  176. Bruce of Newcastle

    New Zealand’s tooth fairy

    She’s now channeling her inner mermaid.

    New Zealand bars humans from swimming with bottlenose dolphins

    Lefties do so love banning things.

  177. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Alan Jones just said the children of the non refugee Tamils have just had their lives destroyed forever.
    He’s such a dill.

    He has a kind heart. That’s why a lot of people like him.

    In this case, the kind heart is misplaced, just as it was when he put that Iraqi ‘refugee’ doctor on his show, the one who kept going back to Iraq (Peta Credlin’s face was a joy to behold during that interview, plus her pointed query as to why he hadn’t stayed in Malaysia, his first place of refuge).

    Those children will do well in Sri Lanka as it is these days; not so much when I was there in the 1970’s. I wonder too whether the father couldn’t just enroll in a hairdressing course or somesuch in Australia, complete it in double quick time, and voila, he can stay with resident status like thousands of other ‘completed’ students do. The family could ‘visit’ on tourist visas till he has finished. That’s if being in Australia is the be all and end all of their lives. My bet is that they will be back once the hoo haa has died down, in some sort of legally approved mode. Plenty of Sri Lankans still gain legal entry to Oz.

  178. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    New Zealand’s tooth fairy
    She’s now channeling her inner mermaid.

    lol, Bruce.

  179. mh

    Special Report: Hong Kong leader says she would ‘quit’ if she could, fears her ability to resolve crisis now ‘very limited’

    HONG KONG (Reuters) – Embattled Hong Kong leader Carrie Lam said she has caused “unforgivable havoc” by igniting the political crisis engulfing the city and would quit if she had a choice, according to an audio recording of remarks she made last week to a group of businesspeople.

    At the closed-door meeting, Lam told the group that she now has “very limited” room to resolve the crisis because the unrest has become a national security and sovereignty issue for China amid rising tensions with the United States.

    “If I have a choice,” she said, speaking in English, “the first thing is to quit, having made a deep apology.”…

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-hongkong-protests-carrielam-specialre/special-report-hong-kong-leader-says-she-would-quit-if-she-could-fears-her-ability-to-resolve-crisis-now-very-limited-idUSKCN1VN1DU

  180. Mother Lode

    Lefties do so love banning things.

    “Hey, we’re gettin’ the ban back together.”

  181. Rockdoctor

    Jones has so many contradictory viewpoints it is hard to know where he stands on anything at times… Meanwhile in the same universe the MSM who last week was baying for his blood have this week come to noddingly approve of his statements this week.

  182. mh

    Carrie Lam has something in common with so many other female leaders around the world – she’s not very good.

  183. if you put a million monkeys together in front of the keypad for a billion years

    Monkeys don’t live for a billion years.

  184. 1735099

    Jones has so many contradictory viewpoints it is hard to know where he stands on anything at times… Meanwhile in the same universe the MSM who last week was baying for his blood have this week come to noddingly approve of his statements this week.

    One of the most intriguing phenomena displayed on Catallaxy is the complete inability of most posters to separate opinion from personality.
    It’s all part of the incapacity of the conservative mind to accommodate more than two concepts at once.

  185. mh

    Numbers linking to a psychology website….

    There is one more step you need to take Bob. Ask for help.

  186. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    It’s all part of the incapacity of the conservative mind to accommodate more than two concepts at once.

    Does anyone else see the irony in this statement?

  187. Rococo Liberal

    It’s all part of the incapacity of the conservative mind to accommodate more than two concepts at once.

    Yes, conservatives aren’t into to doublethink like you poor old lefties.

  188. dover_beach

    One of the most intriguing phenomena displayed on Catallaxy is the complete inability of most posters to separate opinion from personality.
    It’s all part of the incapacity of the conservative mind to accommodate more than two concepts at once.

    It’s instructive that someone decrying an inability to separate ‘opinion from personality’ references an article that conflates ‘opinion with personality’. As we’ve learned before, if a liberal is accusing you of something, they are perpetrating the outrage themselves.

  189. Empire:

    If every Australian who laments where we are at, stopped consuming the fakestream media-entertainment complex propaganda for just one year, our problems would soon be over.
    There is great power in restraint. It isn’t difficult. Turn it off.

    It must be difficult – what, 99% of people watch TV.
    Or is it 138%?

  190. calli

    Guys, guys, guys…he hooks you every time.

    Some dancing music for this morning.

  191. mh

    Mark Levy on 2gb telling it how it is re the Tamil non refugees.

  192. lotocoti

    New Zealand’s tooth fairy has grabbed …

    I’ve noticed the EBR is now being tagged “a weapon of war” and only servants of the state should have access to “weapons of war”.
    Everything from a sturdy stick to the Shovel, collapsible, entrenching, for the use of, has been a “weapon of war”.

  193. egg_

    Re monkeys randomly typing novels:

    Aboriginal Australians likely had no written language for 40,000 years, as they devolved due to isolation.

  194. Knuckle Dragger

    This would be the same website, complete with article written by a 20 year old that Liability Bob links to on matters of weaponry, diversity, EV firebombs, conscription, geopolitics, retardedness and diversity quilts.

  195. Bruce of Newcastle

    I get the feeling the MSM is going quiet about the Odessa-Midland mass shooter story. The following may explain why:

    Texas mass shooter threatened neighbor, shot animals from roof: report

    Plus he was fired from his job that Saturday morning, due to increasingly erratic behaviour. How he had firearms in the face of the laws about ownership, and background checks, is yet to be reported.

  196. Roger

    My bet is that they will be back once the hoo haa has died down, in some sort of legally approved mode.

    Er…no.

    Illegal entry and lying on their asylum application should render them ineligible for migration.

  197. egg_

    It’s all part of the incapacity of the conservative mind to accommodate more than two concepts at once.

    Leftism 101
    “Can’t walk and chew gum at the same time” re their inherent contradictions.
    Next.

  198. areff

    Surely there’s an easy way to solve this Tamil thing. Were I Morrison, I’d call the mayor of their former home town, explain again that the law is the law and they simply must go back to Sri Lanka.

    However, if the townsfolk wished to deluge the minister with pleas for their return and testaments to their good conduct — perhaps even putting up some money to accommodate their return — well the minister would most likely look favourably on a re-submitted residency application.

    Simple. The law is observed, the heart-on-sleeve lefties have the rug pulled out from under them, and what is apparently a decent enough sort of family (dad actually has a job, which makes him more than somewhat unusual) gets what they want.

    Oh, one other thing: appoint Mordy Bromberg to the bench of Australia’s Got Talent, where he can make judgements appropriate to the low apogee of his talents.

  199. Bruce of Newcastle

    The saying is if you put the government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in five years there’d be a shortage of sand.

    Why California’s legal pot industry is struggling against the black market

    “The legal market is struggling with the set of regulatory rules and tax rates that are pretty onerous and make it fairly uncompetitive versus a thriving black market that’s had the whole industry for 60 years now,” Tom Adams, BDS Analytics managing director, told Yahoo Finance

    Only a government could fail to make money selling a weed that grows like a weed.

  200. 1735099

    if a liberal is accusing you of something, they are perpetrating the outrage themselves.

    What on earth are you on about?
    I’ve never voted Liberal in my life.

  201. None

    Ok your opinion please. Is Chris Kenny getting a little bit precious here? Does he really expect serious conversations on places like Twitter ? Is he doing a sec 18 feelz schtick by claiming these people hate instead of just engaging in a bit of black humour? https://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/news/national/the-bile-on-social-media-just-keeps-getting-worse/video/5736ece85ec4cc35a84c70942d364e60

  202. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The saying is if you put the government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in five years there’d be a shortage of sand.

    There was a joke in the old Soviet Union

    “Would socialism be practical in the Sahara desert?

    In theory, yes. In practice, after the first Five Year Plan, there would be a severe shortage of sand.”

  203. C.L.

    [Alan Jones] has a kind heart. That’s why a lot of people like him.

    He always pivots left after a shellacking from the media and advertisers over some perceived rightist infraction. The man who’s demanding of Morrison “some practical Christianity” for the Sri Lankan family was fulsomely supporting homosexual “marriage” a few years ago.

  204. None

    I like how the luvvies decide that the law is not the law even when the High Court has ruled against thsee lying Sri Lankan illegals hey the jury got it right with Cardinal Pell. F****** hypocrites.
    Morrison and Dutton better stand their ground otherwise there will be held to pay.

  205. None

    Haha I didn’t want to say that Chris Kenny was doing a Mordecai in getting all lefty fascist about the feelz but I see Areff has brought up that festering bench sore.

  206. None

    One of the most intriguing phenomena displayed by fuckwit numbers on Catallaxy is his complete inability to recognise that libertarians are not conservatives.

  207. Des Deskperson

    ‘I wonder how Fitzsimian gets along with his fellow progressives when history comes up: He lionises those predominately white straight men…’

    One would think that the story of Tjandamurra would be right up Fitzgibbon’s ‘progressive’ alley. I guess he has figured out that maybe it wouldn’t sell quite so well among his target readership.

    Anyway, there are probably plenty of other ‘Aussie’ historical cliches featuring heroic straight white blokes – like himself – to exploit, although he does seem to have done most of the main ones. Battle of Brisbane? Coral Sea? Milne Bay?

  208. None

    Someone recommended read dark emu. Has anyone Reddit. Is it a well-documented book or just a bunch of fanciful speculation?

  209. egg_

    Aboriginal Australians likely had no written language for 40,000 years, as they devolved due to isolation.

    At the society level, not as a species.

  210. Roger

    It’s more than a little pretentious of people with an at best tenuous grasp of Christianity to be lecturing Christians on what they should think or do, particularly the prime minister, whose first duty is to serve and protect this country according to its laws.

  211. egg_

    if a liberal is accusing you of something, they are perpetrating the outrage themselves.

    Projection.

  212. egg_

    One of the most intriguing phenomena displayed by fuckwit numbers on Catallaxy is his complete inability to recognise that libertarians are not conservatives.

    All you wingnut look same.

  213. areff

    Someone recommended read dark emu

    Don’t bother.

    One example of Pascoe’s scholarship: He writes that Indigenes “terraced” the Maribyrnong river valley.

    Well it was terraced alright, but by the regular floods that incised steps into landscape.

    His rationale for this assertion appears to be no better that an Indigene grave was found in the vicinity. Therefore dusky hands crafted the entire landscape.

    When he quotes explorer journals, he does so selectively. An explorer uses the word “house” somewhat loosely to describe a gunyah. Pascoe reads that as a town and permanent settlement.

    Page after page after page of this poop.

    The one thing of which we can be certain is that it will soon be required reading in all schools, and a disgraceful twister of history will grow rich on the royalties of those must-buy books.

  214. Cassie of Sydney

    “None
    #3146641, posted on September 3, 2019 at 9:50 am
    I like how the luvvies decide that the law is not the law even when the High Court has ruled against thsee lying Sri Lankan illegals hey the jury got it right with Cardinal Pell. F****** hypocrites.
    Morrison and Dutton better stand their ground otherwise there will be held to pay.”

    And don’t you just love how the luvvies, ninety percent of whom have no time for Christianity in public debate, suddenly start screaming about Morrison and Christianity…..we even have this priceless gem from a well known hypocrite and all round skank….

    “Kristina Keneally also doubled down on her calls for Scott Morrison to “show Christian leadership”

    I have to admire her chutzpah….so seeing the skank wants Morrison to show “Christian leadership” about the Tamils…..she will have NO problem with Morrison showing Christian leadership about the transgender debate, about abortion, about infidelity, about SSM etc. etc. Of course not. Eddie’s girl is the ultimate putrid hypocrite.

  215. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The one thing of which we can be certain is that it will soon be required reading in all schools, and a disgraceful twister of history will grow rich on the royalties of those must-buy books.

    There is actually a special edition being prepared for use in schools. Next we will learn that Aborigines invented antibiotics, crop rotation and the Dewy decimal system.

  216. Top Ender

    Interesting:

    Has Labor learnt nothing from the failed shame game?
    COMMENT – GEOFF CHAMBERS

    Anthony Albanese is repeating the same mistake as Bill Shorten if he believes public, moral shaming of Scott Morrison on the grounds of faith is an acceptable or coherent political argument.

    The case of the Tamil asylumseeker family, deemed by independent courts to not be refugees, is an unfortunate one. But as former Labor cabinet minister Stephen Conroy has pointed out, it is always unwise to “adopt individual cases for political campaign purposes”.

    Conroy, who was in parliament when Labor relaxed Australia’s border security regime, warns “there is no forgiveness for those who want to promote cases … (that) could lead to more boats coming”.

    Kristina Keneally, who enjoyed a rapid rise through Labor ranks, has exposed her naivety and hypocrisy on border protection and respect for an individual’s religious beliefs. In June, The Weekend Australian reported a push by Labor frontbenchers, including Keneally, Tony Burke, Chris Bowen and Michelle Rowland, to back stronger protections for religious groups.

    Keneally savaged Labor’s election campaign as being “tone deaf” to the concerns of faith-based communities. “We lost them on the more traditional, touchstone culture and social issues,” she said.

    Yet she clearly believes it is not tone deaf to mix religion and politics. Keneally and Joel Fitzgibbon, the Labor frontbencher most vocal in suggesting the party lost touch with Australian voters, made clumsy attempts to bludgeon the Prime Minister — a former immigration minister — into submission.

    As alternative home affairs minister, Keneally would face the same reality as Morrison and Peter Dutton — people-smugglers are watching, and will put asylum-seekers on boats if there is any opening. Don’t mind the fact Labor in government had the same policy on Sri Lankan economic migrants.

    The former NSW premier is no longer in Macquarie Street. State parliament is reserve grade, the home of the cheap barb that doesn’t have serious implications for border security.

    Senior Labor MPs ignored the sentiment of multicultural voters in western Sydney following the same-sex marriage survey and remained silent when Shorten used faith to attack Morrison during the campaign.

    Has the lesson not been learnt? Battleground seats Labor must win back, including Capricornia, Dawson, Flynn, Lindsay, Robertson, Petrie, Herbert and Longman, are among the electorates with the highest number of Christian voters in the nation.

    Labor’s own western Sydney seats, held by their most senior MPs, have the highest percentage of religious people in the country.

    Oz print edition

  217. feelthebern

    KKK is not auditioning for government.
    She is auditioning for a UN or pan-global organisation.
    These staged auditions are doing her a lot of good to progress her application.
    After another couple of terms in the Senate, she’ll be joining the Triggs/Gillard jetset crowd.

  218. Mother Lode

    One of the most intriguing phenomena displayed by fuckwit numbers on Catallaxy is his complete inability to recognise that libertarians are not conservatives.

    He defers to that sloppy lazy thinking where everything that is not marxist-socialist left is therefore right.

    So the brutal tyrannical statist Nastis are to be grouped together with the vehemently anti-statist libertarians.

    He likely considers Islamofascism to be politically of the right because Islam is a religion and all religions, not being of the left, must therefore be of the right.

    There are only two options: Good-Me, and Bad-Them.

    Mind you, it makes navigation easy. East, South and West are all ‘Not-North’. Like all left wing ideas, it is only practice that is a problem.

  219. Cardimona

    BoN or any science Cats

    Would it be a reasonable analogy to describe fracking fluid as working similarly to WD40?
    Or the mining equivalent of WD40?

  220. old bloke

    Mark A
    #3146501, posted on September 3, 2019 at 6:11 am

    I’m studying European history at the mo, I never realised that in every uprising and revolutions there were a surprisingly great number of foreign individuals in the leadership involved.

    Eamon de Valera, early leader of the independent Ireland, he was a Spanish-American.

  221. Black Ball

    Cassie did Ms Keneally offer this same ‘Christian leadership’ advice to Raelene Castle?

  222. Roger

    AMA declares climate change a “health emergency”.

    Not inclined to address the closed shop specialist colleges, though.

  223. Arky:

    It would be like tripping over a jumbo jet in the desert that had just randomly assembled itself, with the instructions inside as how to make it.

    And yet here we are!

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