Q&A Forum: September 2, 2019

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  1. Konbanwa

    Very different being on EST, and, the bidding is open.

    Interruption Lotto

    Carpe 56

  2. stackja

    Writers on Q&A
    Coming Up: Monday, 2 September

    Lionel Shriver, Journalist and Author

    DeRay Mckesson, Civil rights activist

    Ruby Hamad, Journalist and Author

    Benjamin Law, Writer and broadcaster

    Steve Coll, Dean of Columbia Journalism School

    10 please.

  3. Cpt Seahawks

    21 please Carpe. EST is inconvenient.

  4. Vic in Prossy

    May I have 19 please, Carpe?

  5. Lionel Shriver, leftist

    DeRay Mckesson, leftard

    Ruby Hamad, HARPY HARPY, leftist

    Benjamin Law, Leftist & celebrity poov

    Steve Coll, Dean of Columbia Journalism School aaaaahahahahahahahahahahahaha, leftist

  6. Interruption Lotto

    Carpe 56
    Stackja 10
    Cpt Seahawks 21
    Vic in Prossy 19

  7. Beertruk

    While on the subject of this Leftard Dribble Fest:

    From the Oz:
    Fact-checking Q&A
    Tony Jones host of ABC current affairs program Q&A.

    NICK TABAKOFF
    ASSOCIATE EDITOR

    9:42PM SEPTEMBER 1, 2019
    154 COMMENTS
    Throwaway comments made by Q&A host Tony Jones on the show about the ratings of Sky News After Dark are now the subject of a two-page correction request made by Sky to the ABC.

    The letter follows remarks made by Jones on last Monday’s Q&A, in response to a comment made by shadow immigration minister Kristina Keneally that the Sky After Dark platform was “growing in Australia”.

    Jones interjected: “It’s growing to a very small audience, to be fair. You’re probably talking about 5,000 people watching at that time…They can correct me on that. That’s a fact check you can do, Sky.”

    It will be no surprise to learn Sky indeed fact-checked Jones’s comments, on Friday firing off a letter to the Q&A host that CC’d four of the ABC’s top brass, including chair Ita Buttrose and MD David Anderson.

    Sky News boss Paul Whittaker says in the letter that Jones was wrong: Sky’s average viewership between 6pm and 10pm on Foxtel alone, Whittaker says, was, at 43,921, “more than eight times higher than the number referenced on the Q&A program”. It also receives a further 20,906 viewer average on its regional Sky News on WIN service, Whittaker says, making it a total of “12 times” Jones’s estimate.

    Whittaker has called on Jones to personally make an on-air correction on tomorrow night’s show, citing the ABC’s stated commitment to “accuracy” and a “willingness to correct errors and clarify ambiguous or otherwise misleading information”.

    The Sky boss even offers a proposed script which invites Jones to utter three words: “I was wrong.”

    Will Jones take Whittaker up on his invitation? All will be revealed tomorrow night.

    Read Nick Tabakoff’s full Media Diary tomorrow in the paper and online.

  8. Beertruk

    Annnd can I have 15 please Carpe?

  9. stackja

    Q&A, left, left… I am shocked!

  10. Fact-checking Q&A

    Fact and QandA should never be in the same sentence.

  11. Interruption Lotto

    Carpe 56
    Stackja 10
    Cpt Seahawks 21
    Vic in Prossy 19
    Beertruk 15

  12. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    24, please Carpe.

  13. egg_

    Benjamin Law, hatefvcking Leftist celebrity poov

  14. Interruption Lotto

    Carpe 56
    Stackja 10
    Cpt Seahawks 21
    Vic in Prossy 19
    Beertruk 15
    ZK2A 24

  15. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Benjamin Law, hatefvcking Leftist celebrity poov

    Good luck hatefvcking a former Captain in the Special Air Service Regiment..

  16. egg_
    #3146233, posted on September 2, 2019 at 9:20 pm

    Benjamin Law, hatefvcking Leftist celebrity poov

    I stand corrected.

  17. egg_

    Fact-checking Q&A

    Fuct checking the sideshow, more likely.

  18. Interruption Lotto

    Carpe 56
    Stackja 10
    Cpt Seahawks 21
    Vic in Prossy 19
    Beertruk 15
    ZK2A 24
    Egg 11
    Custard 54

  19. custard
    #3146236, posted on September 2, 2019 at 9:22 pm

    Still going to run for the Senate, and, what is the go with AC.

    Just curious.

  20. Megan

    Evening all, I’ll take 33 in the Lotto, thanks Carpe San.
    Not sure about Shriver being a lefty…she has loudly condemned identity politics as fascist.

  21. Interruption Lotto

    Carpe 56
    Stackja 10
    Cpt Seahawks 21
    Vic in Prossy 19
    Beertruk 15
    ZK2A 24
    Egg 11
    Custard 54
    Megan 33

  22. custard

    No. And the former AC are trying to regroup.

    I’m selling caravans.

  23. Not sure about Shriver being a lefty…she has loudly condemned identity politics as fascist.

    Thanks Megan, i will temper my judgement and happy to be proved wrong.

  24. No. And the former AC are trying to regroup.

    I’m selling caravans.

    Sorry to hear that, the politics thing not the sales.

    I’m still in country doing civils and marine civils.

  25. Cpt Seahawks

    Yes, at one point I had to sell off a bunch of caravans and switch to the JetSki market.

  26. Interruption Lotto

    Carpe 56
    Stackja 10
    Cpt Seahawks 21
    Vic in Prossy 19
    Beertruk 15
    ZK2A 24
    Egg 11
    Custard 54
    Megan 33
    Mark A 32

  27. Geriatric Mayfly

    Shriver writes for the Speckie. Always worth a read.

  28. The BigBlueCat

    8 please Carpe … not sure I can stomach watching though ….

  29. Muddy

    Ah, the ABC. The shpeeple’s channel.

  30. custard

    I still have an abiding interest in public policy…

    Living the dream.

  31. Interruption Lotto

    Carpe 56
    Stackja 10
    Cpt Seahawks 21
    Vic in Prossy 19
    Beertruk 15
    ZK2A 24
    Egg 11
    Custard 54
    Megan 33
    Mark A 32
    The BigBlueCat 8

  32. Beertruk

    Custard, AC is Australian Conservatives?

  33. Geriatric Mayfly
    #3146252, posted on September 2, 2019 at 9:34 pm

    Shriver writes for the Speckie. Always worth a read.

    Correction noted.

  34. egg_

    Fuchsia tops always look fuchsiable, Lionel.

  35. 1st question from ryan smedly, calls himself a centrist is a leftard

    https://twitter.com/smedsta?lang=en

  36. the not very bright Marcus

    Ok …leftie panel …I will take 11 thanks Carpe

  37. egg_

    Law looks perplexed at Lionel talking about immigration as an issue.

  38. Effeminate black dude hates TrumpSatan666.

  39. the not very bright Marcus

    Trump putting kids in cages …. cool

  40. egg_

    The US Left commentators are far more coherent than ours.

  41. egg_

    Law looks dressed up a like a schoolboy.

  42. These idiots are guaranteeing a Trump 2020 win

  43. the not very bright Marcus

    Is that Penny Wong ?

  44. the not very bright Marcus
    #3146270, posted on September 2, 2019 at 9:44 pm

    Ok …leftie panel …I will take 11 thanks Carpe

    11 is gone, Egg grabbed it.

  45. hzhousewife

    Lionel Shriver, leftist

    The leftist all the other leftists love to hate.

  46. the not very bright Marcus

    Thanks carpe … i think i , and egg , are aiming too high… 8 i reckon

  47. Rex Mango

    Everyone mentions the SSM postal survey and the pain etc. No-one mentions the gay bloke who tried to blow up the Australian Christian Lobby HQ in Canberra.

  48. Onto Hamad – Crazy eyes goes for the race card early.

    She makes no sense

  49. Beertruk

    Did Hamad stick her finger in a light socket to get her hair like that?

  50. Next question – i have no idea what she is on about.

  51. Rex Mango

    Lionel S will eat Ben Law for breakfast re identity politics.

  52. egg_

    Did Hamad stick her finger in a light socket to get her hair like that?

    Electro-genital-mutilation?

  53. Cpt Seahawks

    I haven’t understood a word.

  54. Rex Mango

    Is that Caitlyn Jenner to the left of Snowcone?

  55. Did Hamad stick her finger in a light socket to get her hair like that?

    I’ll go for a yes

  56. Rex Mango

    B. Law could take on B. Shorten in a forehead off.

  57. egg_

    Did Law takes his belt off for the black dude in the Green room?

  58. Fiction writers can’t write about other cultures unless they are from that culture.

    Well that just killed the heroic fantasy genre.

  59. egg_

    Fiction writers can’t write about other cultures unless they are from that culture.

    Star Wars is fvcked, then.
    Did Law write for the Droids?

  60. Did Law takes his belt off for the black dude in the Green room?

    He generously applied his watermelon chapstick

  61. egg_

    Snowcone cuts off Benny Wrong.

  62. I’m guessing young Ben never saw the black and white minstrel show, he would have kacked his dacks.

  63. the not very bright Marcus

    Yeah ……my 8 is even looking too ambitious ….my god this is so boring and these people have never ventured outside their goldfish bowl …

  64. Rex Mango

    People performing in blackface big problem in Australia.

  65. Black dude poov is saying something but it’s not a dialect of english i know.

  66. Rex Mango

    Do luv the concept that people enter bookshops looking only in the ‘white authors’ section.

  67. egg_

    Thank God they’re not playing billiards, no ba lls about the panel.

  68. Cpt Seahawks

    Bryant Gumble would be better.

  69. The BigBlueCat

    the not very bright Marcus
    #3146306, posted on September 2, 2019 at 10:03 pm
    Yeah ……my 8 is even looking too ambitious ….my god this is so boring and these people have never ventured outside their goldfish bowl …

    Your 8???

  70. the not very bright Marcus

    I think one used to have balls egg

  71. Rex Mango

    Can someone please raise how Hollywood has abused the black voice of reason trope for the past thirty years with Morgan Freeman.

  72. Has Ruby just come off a heroin bender?

  73. the not very bright Marcus

    8 was my stab at the lotto BBC

  74. Beertruk

    Has Ruby just come off a heroin bender?

    Crack pipe in the green room?

  75. The BigBlueCat

    the not very bright Marcus
    #3146319, posted on September 2, 2019 at 10:08 pm
    8 was my stab at the lotto BBC

    I understand that … I stabbed 8 before you did ….

  76. Ruby looks like the love child of Janis Joplin and the Joker.

  77. egg_

    Our Left commentators sound no more mature than the schoolkids the other week.

  78. MatrixTransform

    gouge my eyes out.
    went in for whyskysys … and its on the teev

    my new book will have 2 black characters.

    gibberish these days for breakfast and dinner.

  79. Rex Mango

    On mention of Mexico ABC cameraman scans room looking for someone culturally appropriating a sombrero.

  80. the not very bright Marcus

    I’ll throw you a bone . choose again.

  81. the not very bright Marcus

    Sorry BBC … I will go even lower to 6 then

  82. egg_

    Ruby’s getting makeup tips from The Joker?

  83. egg_

    my new book will have 2 black characters.

    Do they fvck?

  84. MatrixTransform

    Alinksy’s laughing his arse off .

    …when he isn’t typing on Numpty’s ouija board

  85. Methinks ruby has been on the pipe in the green room.

  86. Beertruk

    Ruby’s getting makeup tips from The Joker?

    Stop it Egg. I have just spat beer on the monitor.

  87. egg_

    Ruby’s garbling the odd word or two.

  88. Specs we are doing investigative reporting.

    *facepalm*

  89. The BigBlueCat

    the not very bright Marcus
    #3146329, posted on September 2, 2019 at 10:10 pm
    Sorry BBC … I will go even lower to 6 then

    No problemo.

  90. Rex Mango

    Ben Law bells the cat and points out Louise Milligan got Pell locked up.

  91. egg_

    Ruby’s garbling the odd word or two.

    Law probably was – in the Green room.

  92. Turtle of WA

    Postmodern twaddle edition.

  93. MatrixTransform

    Do they fvck?

    they would but the post modern made them too stupid to find their dicks

  94. Interruption Lotto

    Carpe 56
    Stackja 10
    Cpt Seahawks 21
    Vic in Prossy 19
    Beertruk 15
    ZK2A 24
    Egg 11
    Custard 54
    Megan 33
    Mark A 32
    The BigBlueCat 8
    NVB Marcus 6

  95. Rex Mango

    Do wish Thomas Sowell was sitting alongside black lives matter bloke.

  96. The BigBlueCat

    Did the black guy say “call a spade a spade”??? Isn’t that wascist???

  97. Beertruk

    they would but the post modern made them too stupid to find their dicks

    Well, the shelia joined the #MeToo turnout now it is before the court.

  98. Turtle of WA

    Black fascist guy reckons the media went easy on Trump.

  99. Black poov and Ben share a winsome look

    i had a mental image that only paint stripper will remove.

  100. egg_

    i had a mental image that only paint stripper will remove.

    A gay Tim Tam?

  101. Beertruk

    Black poov is having a run of verbal diarrhea.

  102. egg_

    Black fascist guy reckons the media went easy on Trump.

    Sp(l)ade News?

  103. Farmer Gez

    One of the very few times my wife has watched Q&A, she just walked out in disgust.

  104. A gay Tim Tam?

    Worse – it involved farm machinery and livestock, wearing KISS makeup.

  105. Farmer Gez

    The spirit of Jussie is strong in this one.

  106. Worse – it involved farm machinery and livestock, wearing KISS makeup.

    The machinery, not the animals.

  107. Rex Mango

    Am thinking black lives matter dude doesn’t have a Blu Ray copy of Dirty Harry at home.

  108. egg_

    it involved farm machinery and livestock, wearing KISS makeup.

    One of Benny Wrong’s plays?

  109. Ben has enough hair gel to make the Ray Martin hair helmet look fragile

  110. egg_

    Benny Wrong’s gonna hatefvck China?

  111. One of Benny Wrong’s plays?

    I was thinking Benny Hill on acid, after a meth bender, or the cast of bottom sans drugs.

  112. Rex Mango

    Trying to be nuanced. In his rant about Australia’s 200 year relationship with China, was Ben Law advocating the White Australia Policy?

  113. egg_
    #3146369, posted on September 2, 2019 at 10:26 pm

    Benny Wrong’s gonna hatefvck China?

    He doesn’t have enough in the package to make Jackie Lambie smiule

  114. Turtle of WA

    Ruby equates a totalitarian dictatorship with locking up a drunken gin?

  115. egg_

    Lionel mansplaining to Ruby about the iron fist of China – moralising won’t cut it.

  116. Back to the black poov, still no idea what he is saying

  117. Turtle of WA

    Solidarity… long bow Snowcone. Black fascist is a lefty just like China and yourself.

  118. Delcon

    Say what you want about the $1B+ ABC budget, but where else would you find a more entertaining freakshow?

  119. Geez i gave up an evening of karaoke for this shyte

  120. Turtle of WA

    “make Jackie Lambie smile”.

    A blue whale couldn’t make that miserable cow smile.

  121. The coloured dude is a fucking lefty moron and Q&A is a load Crap

  122. egg_

    Geez i gave up an evening of karaoke for this shyte

    Law and his black mate will probably go out for karaoke later.

  123. By karaoke i mean 3 drunk PM’s singing Toby Keith badly.

    I can hear the other 2, sounds like fun.

  124. Farmer Gez

    It’s all about DeRay.
    Every topic seamlessly part of his personal experience.
    “Everybody everybody look at me.”

  125. Beertruk

    Delcon
    #3146378, posted on September 2, 2019 at 10:31 pm

    Just put that on teh spacechook feed.

  126. Turtle of WA

    What utter bollocks, slopes are totally accepted.

  127. Next question, White women are racists on aboriginal land.

  128. Turtle of WA

    Yellow beret girlfriend.

  129. Guaranteed Ruby has been on a meth bender.

  130. egg_

    Questioner – “white women make up Trump supporter base” – crap.
    Female Indian Accountants were among the shy Conservatives, raaacist!

  131. egg_

    Benny Wrong hyping up the racism against Chinese.

  132. Beertruk

    Ruby ‘…umm…erp…bla…ummn…eeerr…’

  133. Turtle of WA

    Ruby is a writer? She can’t even talk.

  134. Rex Mango

    Ruby banging on about intersectional nonsense regards white women being privileged and victim This complete and utter rubbish. Snowcone interrupts to boil down argument to say women are to blame the same as men. Then they throw in chattels. Seems women can be chattels when they want to be. Really intellectual stuff.

  135. The BigBlueCat

    Why is Ruby making stuff up??? She’s incoherent ….

  136. egg_

    Ruby channelling something zzzzzz……

  137. egg_

    Lionel calls out the racism.

  138. mh

    Any of you ABC viewing freaks watch 4Corners tonight on the HK protests?

    Reviews please.

  139. Black poov – the history of whiteness, WTF does that even mean you cockwaft?

  140. WTF is Ruby talking about …. its very important and full of experience … oh yeh I get it

  141. Rex Mango

    White men copping the blame for slavery, no-one ever mentions the Muslims regards slavery.

  142. Turtle of WA

    Minority vs. minority. Hahahaha.

  143. What a fucking embarrassment of a panel of drug addled, incohereant dribblers.

  144. egg_

    Lionel leaves the racist panel in her wake.

  145. egg_

    Seems no one hates like minorities.

  146. Turtle of WA

    Next week: Jordan Steel John. The ultimate victim greeny.

  147. The BigBlueCat

    Jones wimps out on the “Sky After Dark” audience numbers … he should have apologised!

  148. egg_

    Typical Leftoid victimhood totempole.

  149. Interruptions came in at 12, Jackpot time troops, the rhinestone trim is added for next week.

  150. Turtle of WA

    Law and Black Fascist are off to the car park.

  151. Beertruk

    For fvcks sake…missed by three. Me best effort so far.
    Thank you Carpe.

  152. the not very bright Marcus

    Thanks Carpe and others … my wife stormed out of this twaddle 20 mins ago … I joined her and relied on all your comments

  153. Beertruk

    Law and Black Fascist are off to the car park.

    As we type.

  154. Turtle of WA

    Seems no one hates like minorities.

    True that.

  155. JC

    What emerges most forcibly from this long list of mishaps is not so much that it is hard being a “spare” (Andrew used to be second in line; now he is ninth).

    Charles
    William
    William’s three kids
    Harry
    Harry’s kid
    ?
    Then Andrew. Who’s ?

  156. MatrixTransform

    JC … step away from the crack pie

  157. JC

    matrix

    I’m on crack and you’re active on the Q&A site? Go figure. 🙂

  158. egg_

    step away from the crack pie

    Is that what Ruby had in the Green room?

  159. Pope Leo XIII

    The great mistake made in regard to the matter now under consideration is to take up with the notion that class is naturally hostile to class, and that the wealthy and the working men are intended by nature to live in mutual conflict. So irrational and so false is this view that the direct contrary is the truth.

    Just as the symmetry of the human frame is the result of the suitable arrangement of the different parts of the body, so in a State is it ordained by nature that these two classes should dwell in harmony and agreement, so as to maintain the balance of the body politic. Each needs the other: capital cannot do without labor, nor labor without capital. Mutual agreement results in the beauty of good order, while perpetual conflict necessarily produces confusion and savage barbarity.

    Now, in preventing such strife as this, and in uprooting it, the efficacy of Christian institutions is marvellous and manifold. First of all, there is no intermediary more powerful than religion (whereof the Church is the interpreter and guardian) in drawing the rich and the working class together, by reminding each of its duties to the other, and especially of the obligations of justice.

    Of these duties, the following bind the proletarian and the worker: fully and faithfully to perform the work which has been freely and equitably agreed upon; never to injure the property, nor to outrage the person, of an employer; never to resort to violence in defending their own cause, nor to engage in riot or disorder; and to have nothing to do with men of evil principles, who work upon the people with artful promises of great results, and excite foolish hopes which usually end in useless regrets and grievous loss.The following duties bind the wealthy owner and the employer: not to look upon their work people as their bondsmen, but to respect in every man his dignity as a person ennobled by Christian character. They are reminded that, according to natural reason and Christian philosophy, working for gain is creditable, not shameful, to a man, since it enables him to earn an honorable livelihood; but to misuse men as though they were things in the pursuit of gain, or to value them solely for their physical powers – that is truly shameful and inhuman.

    Again justice demands that, in dealing with the working man, religion and the good of his soul must be kept in mind. Hence, the employer is bound to see that the worker has time for his religious duties; that he be not exposed to corrupting influences and dangerous occasions; and that he be not led away to neglect his home and family, or to squander his earnings.

    Furthermore, the employer must never tax his work people beyond their strength, or employ them in work unsuited to their sex and age. His great and principal duty is to give every one what is just. Doubtless, before deciding whether wages are fair, many things have to be considered; but wealthy owners and all masters of labor should be mindful of this – that to exercise pressure upon the indigent and the destitute for the sake of gain, and to gather one’s profit out of the need of another, is condemned by all laws, human and divine.
    To defraud any one of wages that are his due is a great crime which cries to the avenging anger of Heaven. “Behold, the hire of the laborers. . .which by fraud has been kept back by you, crieth; and the cry of them hath entered into the ears of the Lord of Sabaoth.”

    Lastly, the rich must religiously refrain from cutting down the workmen’s earnings, whether by force, by fraud, or by usurious dealing; and with all the greater reason because the laboring man is, as a rule, weak and unprotected, and because his slender means should in proportion to their scantiness be accounted sacred. Were these precepts carefully obeyed and followed out, would they not be sufficient of themselves to keep under all strife and all its causes?

    But the Church, with Jesus Christ as her Master and Guide, aims higher still. She lays down precepts yet more perfect, and tries to bind class to class in friendliness and good feeling. The things of earth cannot be understood or valued aright without taking into consideration the life to come, the life that will know no death.

    Exclude the idea of futurity, and forthwith the very notion of what is good and right would perish; nay, the whole scheme of the universe would become a dark and unfathomable mystery.

    The great truth which we learn from nature herself is also the grand Christian dogma on which religion rests as on its foundation – that, when we have given up this present life, then shall we really begin to live. God has not created us for the perishable and transitory things of earth, but for things heavenly and everlasting; He has given us this world as a place of exile, and not as our abiding place.

    As for riches and the other things which men call good and desirable, whether we have them in abundance, or are lacking in them-so far as eternal happiness is concerned – it makes no difference; the only important thing is to use them aright. . . .

    Therefore, those whom fortune favors are warned that riches do not bring freedom from sorrow and are of no avail for eternal happiness, but rather are obstacles; that the rich should tremble at the threatenings of Jesus Christ – threatenings so unwonted in the mouth of our Lord – and that a most strict account must be given to the Supreme Judge for all we possess.

    – from Rerum Novarum (1891)

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  160. iain russell

    FWIW, I was spiked on The Oz on line when I wrote that Benny the Law was not as funny as Benny the Ball in Top Cat.

  161. Megan

    Worse than I could possibly have imagined. How much longer will this complete turd turkey keep sucking up time, money and brain cells? It’s a mystery.

  162. Delcon

    Megan
    #3146576, posted on September 3, 2019 at 8:24 am

    Worse than I could possibly have imagined. How much longer will this complete turd turkey keep sucking up time, money and brain cells? It’s a mystery.

    As long as us suckers keep paying for it?

  163. Beertruk

    Linky:

    ABC’s Tony Jones issues rare on-air correction over Sky News ratings
    02/09/2019|1min
    Host of the ABC’s Q&A program Tony Jones has issued a rare on-air correction, at the very end of the broadcast of the show, regarding comments which disparaged Sky News television ratings aired on the publicly-funded broadcaster.

    During a live broadcast of the network’s weekly flagship political program on August 26 Shadow Immigration Minister Kristina Keneally noted that platforms including “Sky News After Dark” were growing in Australia.

    The Shadow Minister was interrupted by ABC host Tony Jones who interjected that the subscription television network was “growing to a very small audience, to be fair. You’re probably talking about 5,000 people watching at that time”, followed by an invitation to “correct the record” by Sky News.

    Sky News CEO Paul Whittaker took up the offer to correct the record and wrote to ABC management including recently installed Chair Ita Buttrose and news director Gaven Morris requesting a correction to the record to adhere to the ABC’s charter which mandates factualness.

    Mr Whittaker noted in the letter that Sky’s evening average viewership between 6pm and 10pm on Foxtel alone, 43,921, is “more than eight times higher than the number referenced on the Q&A program” which outrates ABC News in Foxtel homes by 350 per cent.

    It also receives ratings on par with ABC News across regional Australia via its Sky News on WIN channel which is a commercial operation and receives no government funding to operate.

    Sky News’ recent half-yearly results saw a 29% audience increase year on year to its evening programming. In primetime Sky News reaches 472,000 Australians per week on Foxtel and 374,000 per week in regional Australia on Sky News on WIN, to deliver an audience 12 times larger than the publicly funded broadcaster claimed.

    The correction from the national broadcaster follows a recent study by independent media monitoring service Streem which showed ‘newsworthy’ print and online media articles, examining more than one million print and online news articles during 2019, that more political news originated from Sky News than any other television channel.

  164. faceache

    The great mistake made in regard to the matter now under consideration is to take up with the notion that class is naturally hostile to class, and that the wealthy and the working men are intended by nature to live in mutual conflict. So irrational and so false is this view that the direct contrary is the truth.

    Just as the symmetry of the human frame is the result of the suitable arrangement of the different parts of the body, so in a State is it ordained by nature that these two classes should dwell in harmony and agreement, so as to maintain the balance of the body politic. Each needs the other: capital cannot do without labor, nor labor without capital. Mutual agreement results in the beauty of good order, while perpetual conflict necessarily produces confusion and savage barbarity.

    Now, in preventing such strife as this, and in uprooting it, the efficacy of Christian institutions is marvellous and manifold. First of all, there is no intermediary more powerful than religion (whereof the Church is the interpreter and guardian) in drawing the rich and the working class together, by reminding each of its duties to the other, and especially of the obligations of justice.

    Of these duties, the following bind the proletarian and the worker: fully and faithfully to perform the work which has been freely and equitably agreed upon; never to injure the property, nor to outrage the person, of an employer; never to resort to violence in defending their own cause, nor to engage in riot or disorder; and to have nothing to do with men of evil principles, who work upon the people with artful promises of great results, and excite foolish hopes which usually end in useless regrets and grievous loss.

    The following duties bind the wealthy owner and the employer: not to look upon their work people as their bondsmen, but to respect in every man his dignity as a person ennobled by Christian character. They are reminded that, according to natural reason and Christian philosophy, working for gain is creditable, not shameful, to a man, since it enables him to earn an honorable livelihood; but to misuse men as though they were things in the pursuit of gain, or to value them solely for their physical powers – that is truly shameful and inhuman.Again justice demands that, in dealing with the working man, religion and the good of his soul must be kept in mind. Hence, the employer is bound to see that the worker has time for his religious duties; that he be not exposed to corrupting influences and dangerous occasions; and that he be not led away to neglect his home and family, or to squander his earnings.

    Furthermore, the employer must never tax his work people beyond their strength, or employ them in work unsuited to their sex and age. His great and principal duty is to give every one what is just. Doubtless, before deciding whether wages are fair, many things have to be considered; but wealthy owners and all masters of labor should be mindful of this – that to exercise pressure upon the indigent and the destitute for the sake of gain, and to gather one’s profit out of the need of another, is condemned by all laws, human and divineTo defraud any one of wages that are his due is a great crime which cries to the avenging anger of Heaven. “Behold, the hire of the laborers. . .which by fraud has been kept back by you, crieth; and the cry of them hath entered into the ears of the Lord of Sabaoth.”

    Lastly, the rich must religiously refrain from cutting down the workmen’s earnings, whether by force, by fraud, or by usurious dealing; and with all the greater reason because the laboring man is, as a rule, weak and unprotected, and because his slender means should in proportion to their scantiness be accounted sacred. Were these precepts carefully obeyed and followed out, would they not be sufficient of themselves to keep under all strife and all its causes?

    But the Church, with Jesus Christ as her Master and Guide, aims higher still. She lays down precepts yet more perfect, and tries to bind class to class in friendliness and good feeling. The things of earth cannot be understood or valued aright without taking into consideration the life to come, the life that will know no death.

    Exclude the idea of futurity, and forthwith the very notion of what is good and right would perish; nay, the whole scheme of the universe would become a dark and unfathomable mystery.

    The great truth which we learn from nature herself is also the grand Christian dogma on which religion rests as on its foundation – that, when we have given up this present life, then shall we really begin to live. God has not created us for the perishable and transitory things of earth, but for things heavenly and everlasting; He has given us this world as a place of exile, and not as our abiding place.

    As for riches and the other things which men call good and desirable, whether we have them in abundance, or are lacking in them-so far as eternal happiness is concerned – it makes no difference; the only important thing is to use them aright. . . .

    Therefore, those whom fortune favors are warned that riches do not bring freedom from sorrow and are of no avail for eternal happiness, but rather are obstacles; that the rich should tremble at the threatenings of Jesus Christ – threatenings so unwonted in the mouth of our Lord – and that a most strict account must be given to the Supreme Judge for all we possess.

    – from Rerum Novarum (1891)

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