Tuesday Forum: September 3, 2019

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  1. Top Ender

    analysis has found that of 729 board positions in the ASX tech scene only 73 (just over 10 per cent) are held by women.

    Obviously outrageous.

    I insist that 16% of board positions are held by people over 65.

    That reflects the population demographic, after all.

    Use this inescapable logic against SJWs now!

  2. egg_

    You are surrounded by nanoparticles

    As suspected.
    Methinks the garage plasma lab dudes are fooling themselves – some of the suspected contaminants may be leftovers from the manufacturing process of their apparatus itself.
    Doh!

  3. Arky

    Tariffs aren’t going to do it with China.
    Trump must embargo the joint.

  4. Mother Lode

    I, or a relative, was a member of the Tigers and I might give the trouble if I return to Sri Lanka. I also broke the Law by leaving Sri Lanka from an unapproved point of departure and I might into trouble when I get back even though no one has ever been arrested or gaoled for this offence after being sent home still it might just happen.

    I would be very surprised if we did not also send aid to Sri Lanka.

    We should withhold the sum equal to the expense of processing and deporting them.

    Maybe the Sri Lankans can make people worried to even start out.

  5. Arky

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  6. stackja

    Dramatic rise in wild Airbnb parties as community halls turn away young people

    An event security firm says out-of-control Airbnb parties are skyrocketing, revealing more than 300 drunken youths recently trashed a Pakenham house. And the firm says there’s one reason it’s happening.
    Suzan Delibasic, [email protected], Cranbourne Leader
    Subscriber only

    September 4, 2019 6:00am

    The family wants Airbnb to tighten up the verification process when bookings are being made.

    “It would be better if the company had more involvement — even verifying guests in person … it should be treated the same as renting a house,” the woman said.

    U-nome Security founder Naomi Oakley, whose firm helps with crowd control at events, said she had noticed a dramatic rise in Airbnb parties because teens were turned away from hall rentals.

    “We often receive queries now about this and it’s mostly because teens can’t use public halls any more — so they are lying their way to do this,” she said.

  7. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Court grants Tamil family legal reprieve

    Remy Varga
    Reporter
    @RemyVarga
    7 minutes ago September 4, 2019
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    The Tamil family’s ­eleventh-hour Federal Court bid to prevent their ­deportation has been pushed to 4pm Friday, with an injunction granted.

    Breaking, from the Oz.

  8. Black Ball

    Good morning.
    In light of the idiot in Western Australia complaining about bbq scents and kids frollicking comes this tale from France. Today’s Hun:

    ‘Less than 2 months after the owner of a French rooster was hauled before a court over his bird’s crowing, the owner of a gaggle of geese and ducks is in the dock over their boisterous quacking.
    The latest noise complaint case to ruffle feathers in the French countryside has been brought by neighbours against a woman who rears ducks and geese in the southwestern Landes region.
    Dominique Douthe, 67, who lives outside the town of Soustons, said the row began a year ago when the new neighbours moved in.
    The case is one of several that have been cast as an attack on the rights of cows to moo in rural France.’

  9. Arky

    This is great: Glenn Beck brings Rubin up to date on last 33 days of current affairs.
    ..


  10. Infidel Tiger

    Tariffs aren’t going to do it with China.
    Trump must embargo the joint.

    He could end China in one move.

    Ban their access to USTs.

  11. Steve trickler

    Crafty work.

    The Australian temperature record is generated largely from short term, fragmented station temperature records – with no data prior to 60 years ago. This video shows the data from all 1,657 NOAA GHCN stations in Australia.

    BOM WASTELAND!



  12. Bruce of Newcastle

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    Seems to’ve improved since yesterday. One of those six escaped the plantation?

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  13. Beertruk

    I tried to post the entire article, but I think it may have been too much for the spaminator.

    From today’s Tele:

    Selective God-bothering

    JAMES MORROW
    ‘…The same people who fretted that the Pentecostal Churchgoing, God-believing Scott Morrison was going to turn Australia into a Down Under reboot of The Handmaid’s Tale now want him to pick up his Bible to reverse what has been a swag of perfectly legitimate decisions by a series of courts.
    It’s funny, too, how quickly the switch can be flipped back again. After Tony Abbott gave a speech in London overnight Monday, making throwaway reference to a verse from scripture, the Sydney Morning Herald made that the main event headlining their online report, “Tony Abbott quotes the Bible in Brexit speech”, hitting some sort of clickbait trifecta.

    It’s easy to write this inconsistency down to political tactics — using your opponent’s rules against him is a time-tested tactic of the left, articulated in different ways by everyone from Saul Alinsky to Vladimir Lenin.

    But there is, when you look at the selective deference to the rule of law in cases ranging from Pell’s to the family of Tamil migrants, another theme that develops — namely, the use of whatever’s handy to hammer institutions.

    Pell’s conviction was a huge blow to the Catholic Church, an institution which — scandals aside — has historically stood as a bulwark against revolutionary schemes in Australia. Recall B.A. Santamaria’s opposition to communism in the last century, or the church’s opposition to the left’s radical abortion and euthanasia reform push in this one.

    Meanwhile, the Tamil family that’s been in the news this week must, to opponents of Australia’s border control regime, seem like an ideal case to use as a lever to weaken our sovereignty and pry open a migration system that they see as terribly unfair and racist, despite its generosity.

    Thus, to the progressive mind, the respect for law is entirely situational, given whether it advances the cause of bulldozing all those institutions which stand in the way of the progressive future the left dreams about and which the rest of us had better wish they never achieve.

    Cooler heads understand that the same legal system that convicted Pell and put him in prison also judged these Tamils not to be genuine refugees and not eligible to stay in the country, and that both calls have to be respected.

  14. Arky

    Ban their access to USTs.

    ..
    Underground storage tanks? What are they using them for?

  15. mh

    The ABC reports:

    The deportation of a Tamil family has been delayed until Friday after a Federal Court judge ruled lawyers for the family should be able to consider a “surprise” development overnight, where Immigration Minister David Coleman said he would not exercise his discretion to allow the youngest daughter to stay in Australia.

    The court heard the Immigration Minister David Coleman had advised the family’s lawyers that the department would not allow two-year-old Tharnicaa to apply to renew her visa and that her case had been assessed.

    Justice Mordecai Bromberg extended the injunction preventing the family’s removal from Australia until 4:00pm on Friday.

    The family had been advised by the Government to abandon the case preventing the transfer “because it is futile”, their lawyer Angel Aleksov said.

    The case has been set down for a further hearing on Friday.

    More to come.

    Fvck me dead. That is not a reason for another delay.

  16. Top Ender

    because teens were turned away from hall rentals

    When I was in “matric” in the 1970s I was the treasurer of the school SRC. It was a government-run place where the concept was year 11s and 12s were “young adults” and should be treated as such. (One side effect was massive absenteeism, but I digress.)

    The SRC ran its own dances. From memory we hired a hall and a band and then advertised it.

    My cheques for the night, payable well in advance, were for:

    – 2 x 18 gallon barrels of beer, the Temprites, tables and glasses (one 10 gallon barrel of cider for the ladies),

    – hall hire, with about $300 cash on top, balance returnable, for a damages deposit,

    – the band, usually with $50-$100 cash on top paid out if they had a) played well, and b) not had too many breaks to get their courage up with booze, baccy, and weed,

    – a few hundred for security on the night, usually paid out of the cash from the door.

    Must have arranged at least six over the time I was there, and can’t recall too many disasters.

  17. stackja

    Activists need to ‘spare us the sanctimony’ on refugees
    Sky News host Peta Credlin says activists and “those who do not understand the law and global practice” on resettling refugees should “spare us all the sanctimony” on an issue they “know so little about”.

    Advocates and some Labor politicians have urged the Coalition to let a Tamil family stay in Australia, despite a series of courts rejecting their claims for asylum over seven years.

    Ms Credlin said the government’s job was to make tough decisions needed to keep the country safe.

    “Let me tell you the hard and bloody unpalatable truth here. The job of government is not to make easy decisions,” she said.

    “The hypocrisy of the Labor Party is just breath-taking … Labor’s selective logic might make for good media, but again and again, it shows that you just couldn’t trust them to govern our country, or God help them, manage our borders.”

  18. mh

    Sky News host Peta Credlin says activists and “those who do not understand the law and global practice” on resettling refugees should “spare us all the sanctimony” on an issue they “know so little about”.

    Like her co host Alan Jones.

  19. stackja

    Top Ender
    #3147403, posted on September 4, 2019 at 11:37 am
    because teens were turned away from hall rentals

    When I was in “matric” in the 1970s I was the treasurer of the school SRC. It was a government-run place where the concept was year 11s and 12s were “young adults” and should be treated as such.

    Today “young adults” act like 4 year olds.

  20. stackja

    mh
    #3147405, posted on September 4, 2019 at 11:42 am

    AJ seems to have lost the plot.

  21. Roger

    Seems NSW Libs could be headed for minority government, with two conservative MPs threatening to go to the crossbench if their amendments to the abortion bill aren’t passed.

    Well played, Gladys.

  22. Cassie of Sydney

    “Roger
    #3147414, posted on September 4, 2019 at 11:47 am
    Seems NSW Libs could be headed for minority government, with two conservative MPs threatening to go to the crossbench if their amendments to the abortion bill aren’t passed.

    Well played, Gladys.”

    Actually…that should be “Well played, Michael Photios”.

  23. candy

    It’s harsh the two small children are bundled out of their home in that way though. I think that’s why people find it difficult to accept. It does seem somewhat, almost un-Australian, for want of a better word that this kind of activity occurred. The father worked in an abattoir a job very few willing to take up, the kids are well parented. It makes a difficult scenario, from the outside looking at it anyway.

    I wonder if Minister Coleman can accept this case here, but if we are being taken for a ride by thousands of other non genuine refugees as they say, clamp down on it then when we know the score.

  24. zyconoclast

    From a couple of days ago

    A young man has been killed and nine others were left injured after a knifeman went on a stabbing rampage in the French city of Lyon. The victim who died was a 19-year-old man…

    The attacker is a 33-year-old Afghan citizen who had applied for asylum in France and was awaiting a response, according to a national police official. Although he provided contradictory information to police, the attack did not appear to be terrorism-related but his motive is unclear, said two French officials.

  25. mh

    Mark Levy is filling in for a sick Ray Hadley this week.

    He demolished any arguments Alan Jones has against the decision to deport the Sri Lankan Non Refugees who came here illegally within the first 15 minutes of his show.

  26. Boambee John

    Mother Lode
    #3147331, posted on September 4, 2019 at 9:23 am
    Not sure about the Zanetti cartoon. Is he saying that Morro is actually in an awkward position because he will let the Sri Lankans be deported?

    Strangely, I do not recall KKKennealy urging TA as Health Minister to follow his Christian principles in relation to abortion.

  27. Dr Faustus

    BoJo is trying to crash through a much bigger set of issues than the UK’s membership of the EU. A heat map of how the 2016 referendum results fell across the country highlights the bigger political, cultural and social divide within the Union– and particularly how the ‘average’ 48:52 Brexit vote doesn’t actually represent an ‘average’ of what Brits actually want.

    England: By distribution, overwhelmingly supports Brexit. The Remainer super-centres are concentrated on Greater London and the Home Counties (with Remainer hot spots in Oxford, Cambridge, and the UK’s Gay Green Capital, Brighton).

    The 2016 vote shows where the ‘elites’ are concentrated – and also says wipeout in English parliamentary seats for anyone voting against Brexit.

    Scotland: Uniformly Remainer. The Scots particularly benefit from EU subsidies (and economic transfers from England) and continued EU membership is politically indivisible from Scottish Independence.

    The 2016 vote says an SNP supermajority in Parliament and greatly increased pressure and support for the breakup of the Union.

    N. Ireland: The Border Counties and the two major cities are Remainer. Brexit only has a stronghold in Unionist Antrim. Similar to Scotland this is a reflection of the traditional tension between nationalism/unionism and a preference for subsidy.

    The 2016 vote says Brexit will increase pressure for Irish unification and/or redrawing the border (actually, both of these are already mainstream issues). In either event, the Brexit debate is flirting with an outbreak of terrorism.

    Wales: Pro Brexit, with the exception of Snowdonia – “Welsh Wales”.

    The 2016 vote says the Welsh Welsh will be ignored.

    The game is much bigger and more complicated than the ‘no brainer’ of dumping the EU Parasite, sorting Backstop, and the potential economic consequences of a hard exit. Unfortunately for the Brits, the process was started by an imbecile (take a bow David Cameron) and is now being controlled by self-serving, careerist morons.. The only real question left is How Deep is this Shit?

  28. zyconoclast

    Stanford pushes separate physics course for minority students

    Stanford University is pushing a separate physics course for minorities in hopes that it will result in more diversity among physics majors.

    A 2016 survey revealed Stanford’s physics department to be one of the “least diverse” departments within the institution, and the university has since embarked on a mission to resolve that supposed concern, according to a university news release.

    One step Stanford has taken is promoting a modified version of the standard Mechanics course, a requirement for physics majors, boasting “added support.”

    Stanford’s alternate version of this course, Physics 41E, boasts additional class time, as well as “learning assistants,” individuals with a “passion” for “education equity,” who are paid by the university to guide students through the difficult course.

  29. Top Ender

    Maybe see if the spells work, then ban them?

    Exorcists tell school to ban Harry Potter books
    AFP

    Exorcists advised a Nashville school priest to ban Harry Potter books over fears the popular children’s novels could be used to summon spirits.

    The Reverend Dan Reehil contacted exorcists in Rome and the US, who recommended removing the fantasy novels from Saint Edward Catholic School’s library in Tennessee.

    Launched in 1997, the series of books spins an epic tale of good and evil focused on the adventures of the eponymous bespectacled young wizard as he struggles against the dark wizard, Lord Voldemort.

    “The curses and spells used in the books are actual curses and spells, which when read by a human being risk conjuring evil spirits into the presence of the person reading the text,” Mr Reehil said in an email.

    Rebecca Hammel, the superintendent of schools for the Catholic diocese of Nashville, told The Tennessean that Mr Reehil had “canonical authority to make such decisions”.

    The school used to stock the books but it will not offer them to pupils in its newly opened library, Ms Hammel said.

    The series by JK Rowling has been repeatedly banned from schools in the US and Britain, mostly for allegedly promoting satanic values or black magic.

    Oz print edition

  30. custard
    #3147367, posted on September 4, 2019 at 10:37 am

    Excellent.
    Ridicule and mockery is the best way to deal with climatears.

  31. zyconoclast

    A new solution for America’s empty churches: A change of faith

    Over the past few decades, vacant and underutilized churches have become a familiar sight in American cities.

    In some cases, a congregation or a religious governing body — say, a Catholic diocese — will sell the church to developers, who then turn them into apartments, offices, art galleries, museums, breweries or performance spaces.

    But what about churches in neighborhoods that aren’t doing well, areas that are less attractive to developers looking to turn a profit?

    In Buffalo, New York, two empty Roman Catholic churches were recently converted — not into apartments or offices, but into other places of worship. One became an [email protected] m0squ, the other a Budh1st temple.

  32. stackja

    Video + Photos | Burst water main closes Kingsway at Caringbah
    September 4 2019 – 10:59AM

    A bus has become stuck in a hole in the road and traffic is at a standstill.

    A muddy torrent is gushing down the road preventing people from crossing the road and accessing the parked cars.

    Motorists are urged to avoid the area due to significant traffic delays for eastbound and westbound traffic.

  33. Old School Conservative

    Oh come on
    #3147347, posted on September 4, 2019 at 9:49 am
    Boris loses a crucial vote on Brexit (as was widely expected). Nigel Farage isn’t present for his daily LBC Radio call-in show.
    Hmm. It would seem that something’s afoot.

    I’m hoping that Boris had war-gamed all scenarios before he announced the proroguing.
    I sense that he is crazy like a fox, and not the head-busting, impulsive fool some cartoonists make him out to be.

  34. The sign of success will be primary school taunts of :

    Nyah! Nyah! Look an Ecoloon! Ecoloon! Ecoloon! Ecoloon! …

  35. Old School Conservative

    candy
    #3147417, posted on September 4, 2019 at 11:52 am
    It’s harsh the two small children are bundled out of their home in that way though

    That’s why the parents had them. To generate sympathy.

  36. Bruce of Newcastle

    Exorcists tell school to ban Harry Potter books

    Silly season story I suspect. Journos have been reporting this stuff since the first one came out.

  37. stackja

    zyconoclast
    #3147423, posted on September 4, 2019 at 11:59 am
    Did you hear about this mass shooting?

    Blacklisted? Blackb’d?

  38. Geriatric Mayfly

    I suspect Farage and Boris are hunkered down in negotiations somewhere.

    While the new Jack Russell is sniffing out rats.

  39. stackja

    zyconoclast
    #3147432, posted on September 4, 2019 at 12:05 pm

    Chicago needs to ban illegal guns! Of course, the ban will be respected.

  40. C.L.

    Morrow goes ever-so-close to making a sound argument …

    Cooler heads understand that the same legal system that convicted Pell and put him in prison also judged these Tamils not to be genuine refugees and not eligible to stay in the country, and that both calls have to be respected.

    … and then blows it in the final paragraph.

  41. Des Deskperson

    ‘I would be very surprised if we did not also send aid to Sri Lanka.’

    $27.1 millón in this FY. Clearly only a token given Sri Lanka’s population and one wonders why we give it at all, in light of Sri Lanka’s relatively good economy.

    The answer is that our aid’s main focus is on improving the status of women and on ‘gender equality’.

  42. zyconoclast

    Why did nobody mention that Beto O’Rourke’s wife is a billionaire heiress?

    A Yahoo profile of O’Rourke described how he ‘married Amy Sanders, a charter school administrator,’ and served on the City Council ‘championing downtown redevelopment.’ But the reporter didn’t bother to look into who Sanders’s father was.

    Neither did this Guardian piece.

    Or this Washington Post one.

    Nor this one in Vanity Fair.

    TIME magazine were agog as the congressman cooed, ‘I just want to be as raw and direct and real as I can — and it seems to be working.’

    And GQ were content to focus on other members of his family. ‘O’Rourke ascended the stage with his daughter, Molly, riding piggyback. She and her mom, Amy, also dressed in a Diablito uniform, stood by O’Rourke as he presented Daniel with a cake and led a chorus of “Happy Birthday.”’ Cute stuff — but we’d rather hear about their property magnate grandfather if it’s all the same.

  43. Geriatric Mayfly

    Justice Mordecai Bromberg extended the injunction preventing the family’s removal from Australia until 4:00pm on Friday.

    It’s him again. I wonder if Rintoul is assisting counsel.

  44. Old School Conservative

    Stanford’s alternate version of this course, Physics 41E, boasts additional class time, as well as “learning assistants,” individuals with a “passion” for “education equity,” who are paid by the university to guide students through the difficult course.

    UTS did the same thing with its BComm from memory several years ago.
    Using different language to describe the same process, UTS rebadged Year 1 of the degree program as a Diploma run by its commercial arm. Entrants had to pay of course. Successful graduates went on to Year 2 of the full degree program.
    I’m sure other Australian universities have also got similar processes in place.

  45. notafan

    There are not two little children being ‘bundled out of their home’

    The family has been in immigration detention since early 2018, that is all either of them could possibly know or remember

    if mum and dad put their children first they would have taken them home to sri lanka as soon as their bridging visas expired and got them settled but no
    their children are mere political footballs

  46. C.L.

    Levy and Hadley would both know that Jones is playing the role of chief advocate for the Sri Lankans as penance for the Ardern sock affair. He performs these tactical pivots all the time.

  47. DrBeauGan

    Exorcists tell school to ban Harry Potter books
    AFP

    Exorcists advised a Nashville school priest to ban Harry Potter books over fears the popular children’s novels could be used to summon spirits.

    It might be better to ban the exorcists. Whackos are more of a threat to children’s sanity than any number of spells.

  48. Dr Faustus

    candy
    #3147417, posted on September 4, 2019 at 11:52 am
    It’s harsh the two small children are bundled out of their home in that way though

    Funnily enough, that’s just what an ABC Expert thinks.

    The decision to deport the family may be in breach of the Convention on the Rights of the Child (CROC).

    The CROC is the most widely accepted international treaty. It has been ratified by every member of the United Nations except for the United States.

    The UN Committee on the Rights of the Child states that other considerations can override the best interests of the child but only in exceptional circumstances.

    A CROC of Anchor Babies.

  49. notafan

    There are not two little children being ‘bundled out of their home’

    The family has been in immigration detention since early 2018, that is all either of them could possibly know or remember

    if mum and dad put their children first they would have taken them home to sri lanka as soon as their bridging visas expired and got them settled but no
    their children are mere political footba lls

  50. Geriatric Mayfly

    the same legal system that convicted Pell and put him in prison

    Strange, that in the aftermath there are few learnéd analyses of Ferguson and Maxwell’s penetrating judgement. Maybe it’s because of embarrassment. Yet Weinberg’s tour de force has attracted the forensic attention of many pundits.

  51. notafan

    A Roman Catholic school in Tennessee has banished JK Rowling’s universally (slight exaggeration) popular series of Harry Potter novels.
    Notice how the MSM call something ‘populist’ when they don’t like it eg BREXIT

    but if they like it it is just fine

    I trusted my children to recognize fact from fantasy but HP aren’t particular good books and will be no loss from the school library.

  52. Old School Conservative

    C.L.
    #3147445, posted on September 4, 2019 at 12:16 pm
    Levy and Hadley would both know that Jones is playing the role of chief advocate for the Sri Lankans as penance for the Ardern sock affair.

    IIRC, Jones was doing sympathetic interviews with Biloela activists before he launched into Ardern but has ramped up his advocacy since then.

  53. Diogenes

    The UN Committee on the Rights of the Child states that other considerations can override the best interests of the child but only in exceptional circumstances.

    What a Croc !
    So we have 2 choices, keep the kids, and deport the parents or send kids home with their family.
    Pick one.

  54. Old School Conservative

    Nota, an English teacher I know and respect said that the HP series attracted many more children into reading long, difficult novels than most other authors.
    Not a quantitative endorsement I know, but interesting nevertheless.

  55. notafan

    Don’t you hate it when lawyers get their facts wrong?

    Also ignores the fact that Sri Lanka is perfectly safe for this family

    The Sri Lankan government should be mightily offended at this rubbish

    Nadesakingam and Priya’s children were both born in Australia, have started to build connections with their local community and have never been to Sri Lanka (well der).

    The family had been living at Biloela in Central Queensland for about three years before being placed in detention in Melbourne in March 2018 when Priya’s bridging visa expired.

    Deportation of Tamil asylum seeker family interrupted midair by last-minute injunction

  56. notafan

    OSC

    I know HP brought a lot of children back to reading when they were first released but nevertheless there are far better books.

    I don’t know if that is relevant now though.

    Who can account for the public’s taste?

    Apparently Kylie Minoque is an internationally successful singer too.

  57. notafan

    It is salacious nonsense to claim that Australia must abandon her sovereign rights because someone produced an anchor baby or two.

    Clearly the best interests of the child should be to be living with their own parents

    in any case the court has already made a decision in relation to the older child, the only reason the younger one was not included is because she had not yet been born.

  58. C.L.

    If they were a couple of whites fleeing the farm murderers of their native South Africa, you can be 100 percent certain the entire leftist media establishment would be baying for their immediate expulsion.

  59. ArthurB

    Further evidence that mobile phones are a danger to civilization. I wonder whether anyone in Oz has done a similar study?

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/why-did-pedestrian-deaths-go-up-over-50-since-2009/

  60. Old School Conservative

    Much is said on this site about the advantages and disadvantages of cruising.
    Mark Steyn has combined love of cruising with conservative attitudes and created two sold-out “Annual Steyn Cruises” and a third selling well.
    I hope he makes a buck out of the venture.

  61. John Constantine

    Undercover whistleblowers spoonfeed footage of little baby goats being killed with bolt guns to their abc, in response to the enquiry into farm invasions being held today.

    Timing nothing to do with a design to pressure the enqiry claim the activists.

    Anxiety about any sort of Death cripples and enrages a large convoy of activists, easy to exploit to end animal agriculture.

    The days of the huge multinational chemical companies supplying genetically modified roundup marinated, medicated soybean sludge, posing as meat substitute, are nearly here.

    Rations of State issued sludge.

    Comrades.

  62. notafan

    Undercover whistleblowers spoonfeed footage of little baby goats being killed with bolt guns to their abc, in response to the enquiry into farm invasions being held today.

    if only they could mix up a lethal cocktail (tastes like Tang!) and drink it instead.

  63. Tel

    7 fatally shot, 34 wounded in Chicago during Labor Day weekend gun violence

    Those guns must be angry … someone offended the guns!

    Perhaps if the people of Chicago gave a heartfelt apology to every gun. If it only saves one child it’s worth it.

  64. Geriatric Mayfly

    MEDIAjust in
    Ocasio-Cortez ties climate change to Hurricane Dorian damage in Bahamas

    This was totally unexpected. Wonder if Nobody’s Girl will join her sistah in the chorus.

  65. Percy Popinjay

    All work on the NBNN should have been shut down as of the Monday after the September 2013 election.

    Yes, it’s almost six years ago to the day. What a frigging shemozzle. How many taxpayers’ dollars (tens of billions? hundreds?) since then have been pissed up against the wall on that staggeringly stupid, entirely unnecessary, obsolete before it was even started, Fatso Rudd/Nuclear Milkman back of a beer coaster half baked brain fart bullshit?

    FFS.

  66. Percy Popinjay

    Ocasio-Cortez ties climate change to Hurricane Dorian damage in Bahamas

    Yes, it’s a miracle that none of the islands in Dorian’s path were tipped over.

  67. Mother Lode

    In a few years, when comedians want to make jokes about this decade, they will depict people who look like their heads are being pulled forward and down by an invisible cord from their eye sockets to their phones.

    Hopefully by then AGW will also feature as a mockable sign of the times.

    And apps for everything which will be marvelled at by the people in the comedy skits but laughably inept by the lights of that future audience.

  68. Neil

    All work on the NBNN should have been shut down as of the Monday after the September 2013 election.

    The worse thing is the Coalition gets the blame for any problems with the NBN. That is the problem if you touch a ALP policy. The changes Turnbull made mean the NBN can be built quicker so NBNCo can start getting cash flow quicker and it will be cheaper than Labors FTTP.

    But once you touch something you own it. But current problems have nothing to do with technology changes made by Turnbull.

  69. Mother Lode

    The worse thing is the Coalition gets the blame for any problems with the NBN. That is the problem if you touch a ALP policy.

    The ALP is good on announcing, but crap* at execution.

    The NDIS, proclaimed by that honking ranga slattern Gillard, was left to the Libs to implement (which they gullibly fell for).

    *This is perhaps a little unfair. It is not so much that they are passed masters at delivering to the 10% which feeds into their mates pockets, it is just the other 90% which they paid scant attention to but which grows wild and out of control like weeds on a fertilizer bender.

  70. Colonel Crispin Berka

    A major nerd prize has been completely missed.
    Much Internet brownie points go to user Beertruk for making the π×10⁶ comment on last week’s open forum.
    http://catallaxyfiles.com/2019/08/24/open-forum-august-24-2019/comment-page-6/#comment-3141593

    Runner up golf-clap to user “nb” with the id number next nearest to Pi.
    http://catallaxyfiles.com/2019/08/26/just-when-we-thought-it-was-time-for-chancellor-merkel-to-fade-away-into-decent-obscurity/#comment-3141592

    Some may find this news of questionable importance.
    But I thought their accomplishments really deserved an… advisory circular.

  71. egg_

    NBNCo Board
    Ziggy Switkowski – Chairman[23]
    Stephen Rue – Managing Director & Chief Executive Officer from 18 September 2018 (Chief Financial Officer from July 2014 until appointment as MD)[24]
    Drew Clarke – Non-executive director (from 22 August 2017 for a three-year term)[25]
    Patrick Flannigan – Non-executive director[23]
    Shirley In’t Veld – Non-executive director[23]
    Michael Malone – Non-executive director (from 20 April 2016)[26]
    Zoe McKenzie – Non-Executive Director (1 July 2018 – 30 June 2021)[27]
    Justin Milne – Non-executive director[23]
    Kerry Schott – Non-executive director[23]

  72. egg_

    Ocasio-Cortez ties climate change to Hurricane Dorian damage in Bahamas

    But, but… warming causes less cyclones – or has it “paused”?
    /Green Nude Eel

  73. Steve trickler

    ATC from a recent incident in Perth – Jandakot Airport.

    A student had his instructor pass out.



  74. Mother Lode

    But, but… warming causes less cyclones – or has it “paused”?

    Only when there are no cyclones.

    When a cyclone occurs it causes ALL of them.

  75. Dr Faustus

    Therapeutic Albo takes time out of his busy schedule fighting Tories:

    Anthony Albanese
    @AlboMP

    Today I’ll be travelling to Biloela to hear from the local community about why they want Nades, Priya and their beautiful two girls to stay in Australia – something Scott Morrison should have done months ago.

    A blessed relief from pretending to be shocked and surprised by the ‘Sussex Street Culture’ that welcomes big bags of well-thumbed currency notes as gifts from admirers of Emperor Xi.

  76. stackja

    egg_
    #3147476, posted on September 4, 2019 at 1:38 pm

    CIO [Chief Intelligence Officer] Stephen Conroy using state of the beer coaster.

  77. Dr Faustus

    Richard Marles shows us the future under an Albanian Labor Government:

    Deputy Labor leader Richard Marles said the Minister had discretion to allow the family to stay.

    “The Minister has a discretion here, which can be used,” he said.

    “The community in Biloela has clearly made it evident as to how they would like to see this discretion used.

    Local soviets giving policy instruction to junior ministers.
    How very 1922.

  78. Mater

    But, but… warming causes less cyclones – or has it “paused”?

    CSIRO are currently running with less cyclones, but more intense ones.

    Tropical cyclone days are projected to decrease in frequency in the Australian region, but it is expected that a greater proportion will be higher intensity. That is, we may have fewer cyclones but the ones we do have will be stronger.

  79. Tintarella di Luna

    The NDIS, proclaimed by that honking ranga slattern Gillard, was left to the Libs to implement (which they gullibly fell for).

    The legislation is a dog’s breakfast as one would expect because it was solely the work of Labor hacks, was totally unfunded with Commonwealth public servants given control over services it doesn’t understand and had never provided in 113 years.

  80. stackja

    Justice Mordecai Bromberg appointed by Robert McClelland under Kev 07?

  81. Mother Lode

    Today I’ll be travelling to Biloela to hear from the local community about why they want Nades, Priya and their beautiful two girls to stay in Australia – something Scott Morrison should have done months ago.

    He thinks Scott Morrison should be going around the legal system? Isn’t that a touch on the dictatorial side?

    It is slightly disproportionate that such a squeaky piffling tooth-faced empty strutting little man of such mean ability should so earnestly embrace the methods of a tyrant?

    Think of the little weedy kids who dream of somehow beating the living cheeses out of those that bully them. If they ever tried they would just have more cheeses beat out of them, and perhaps an additional salutary humiliation as a bonus.

    This is what Albo would be like as a PM.

  82. Fisky

    The endless appeals, last minute injunctions, millions of dollars wasted…just to deport one family back to Sri Lanka. This is why the libertarian policy of allowing people to pour in then try to weed them out after they arrive, is a really dumb idea. Don’t let people come in the first place is the cheap, small government policy.

  83. Mother Lode

    And if they insist making an exception of these Sri Lankans as a unique case, it would appear that there are another 6,000 unique cases currently clogging the courts like hemp in a bowel.

    I would assume that they have all – for unique reasons – been breached conditions so they are now all facing deportation.

  84. Fisky

    I see the anti-free speech Judge Mordy is all for open borders. How predictable.

  85. Fisky

    there are another 6,000 unique cases currently clogging the courts like hemp in a bowel

    A billion plus dollars in court costs right there. Thanks to open borders.

  86. Twostix

    They aren’t even australians, just squatters.

  87. zyconoclast

    Walmart said Tuesday it will discontinue all sales of handgun ammunition and sales of short-barrel rifle ammunition that can be used with military-style weapons, following two “horrific” shootings at Walmart stores this summer.

    It will also stop all handgun sales in Alaska, marking its complete exit from the handguns category.

    The biggest retailer in the world also is asking customers at Walmart and Sam’s Club to no longer openly carry firearms in stores, in states where “open carry” is allowed, unless they are authorized law enforcement officers. Open carry legislation is currently on the books in more than 26 states, Dan Bartlett, executive vice president of corporate affairs, said during a call with members of the media.

    Walmart said it won’t be changing its policy for customers who have permits for concealed carry. And it will be adding signage to stores in the coming weeks to communicate the updates.

  88. zyconoclast

    ‘Shameful’: NRA trashes Walmart’s decision to halt ammunition sales

    The National Rifle Association called Walmart’s decision to halt their handgun ammunition sales “shameful” in a statement Tuesday afternoon.

    The NRA’s scathing remarks come the same day the major retail chain announced they will discontinue sales of short-barrel rifle ammunition and will no longer sell handgun ammunition.

    “The strongest defense of freedom has always been our free-market economy. It is shameful to see Walmart succumb to the pressure of the anti-gun elites. Lines at Walmart will soon be replaced by lines at other retailers who are more supportive of America’s fundamental freedoms,” the NRA’s statement began.

  89. Twostix

    Mark my words, this is part of the start of the broader campaign to dilute citizenship further for to the million “permanent residents” squatting here.

    Recall the first salvo last week in the leftwing press about “calls” and unfairness that they can’t vote.

    It’s connected. They want to further blur the lines.

  90. notafan

    The LNP should definitely reward lying and abuse of our legal processes for a couple of unskilled nohopers.

    Definitely

  91. BrettW

    Credlin to replace Jones on 2GB would be a good move.

    Move Hadley to Jones time as that way his first hour of reading court case details would be well before most people listening.

  92. notafan

    This is why the libertarian policy of allowing people to pour in then try to weed them out after they arrive, is a really dumb idea

    Isn’t it just

    this is exactly the sort of thing we said would happen

    all the time

    but hey nice!

  93. feelthebern

    Hopefully by then AGW will also feature as a mockable sign of the times.

    Doubt it.
    Communists should be mocked in the streets, but you don’t see that.

  94. Mother Lode

    It is shameful to see Walmart succumb to the pressure of the anti-gun elites.

    When you become the leader you no longer have to look for strategies to pass the other guys if it is easier to simply stop them overtaking you.

    Big companies seem inclined to embrace regulation that will be more of a drain on competitors and which they themselves can better accommodate through their size.

  95. feelthebern

    I was too young at the time to understand, but when the Berlin Wall was coming down, one teacher at school was in tears.
    Not tears of joy.
    Their hopes of a communist paradise were gone.
    Well for a time anyway.
    A few elections ago the teacher in question ran as a Green candidate & lost.

  96. Dr Faustus

    It is slightly disproportionate that such a squeaky piffling tooth-faced empty strutting little man of such mean ability should so earnestly embrace the methods of a tyrant?

    An arguably harsh descriptor of the Man of Iron Principles:

    “The range of changes I’ve pointed out are there – but no change in terms of people who arrive by boat, they wouldn’t be settled in Australia,” he said.

    Asked if he was planning a leadership coup in the event Shorten faltered at the byelections, Albanese replied: “Not at all.

    Although possibly mild and understated.

  97. notafan

    Twas Labor that first rejected Nades but hey!

    In this proceeding, which involves the review of a decision of the Refugee Review Tribunal made on 22 January 2013, the parties have agreed that the following represents the background.

    SZSPT v Minister for Immigration & Anor [2014] FCCA 1388 (1 July 2014)

  98. notafan

    Actually the 2014 case was the third rejection, the first of all of course was by the minister (under a Labor government).

    the January 2013 case

  99. Mother Lode

    A few elections ago the teacher in question ran as a Green candidate & lost.

    How does that old dictum go:

    From each according to what we want. To each according to what we feel like.

  100. Tintarella di Luna

    …a squeaky piffling tooth-faced empty strutting little man of such mean ability…

    lovely work Mother Lode

  101. notafan

    Makes sense that neither of them want to go back to Sri Lanka

    other than for a short period in 2007 and 2011 for him, neither of them have lived there since 2001.

  102. Mother Lode

    Thanks, Tints.

    It feels sooo good to let it out.

  103. Atoms for Peace

    Albo. The good burghers of Bilo do have access to the telephone. Video conferencing facilities are also available. No need to fly up; Just do it for Greta..

  104. egg_

    Therapeutic Albo takes time out of his busy schedule fighting Tories:

    Will there be a “happy ending”?

  105. JC

    Fisky
    #3147489, posted on September 4, 2019 at 2:17 pm

    The endless appeals, last minute injunctions, millions of dollars wasted…just to deport one family back to Sri Lanka. This is why the libertarian policy of allowing people to pour in then try to weed them out after they arrive, is a really dumb idea. Don’t let people come in the first place is the cheap, small government policy.

    Fisky, Refs policy is not libertarian policy. It’s leftism. Bromberg is a leftist appointment.

  106. notafan

    JC

    I believe someone here argued on behalf of liberty, and quite forcibly, that irregular arrivals, or those that became a charge on the public purse could be easily swept up and returned to the place from whence they came.

  107. JC

    More concrete evidence trade restrictions and tariffs are expansionary. NOT!

    Mayday, mayday. The U.S. manufacturing boom is showing signs of distress. Business investment has plunged amid growing trade uncertainty, and another warning came Tuesday in the Institute for Supply Management survey that showed manufacturing contracted last month for the first time since 2016.

    ISM’s manufacturing index declined to 49.1% in August from 51.2% in July and 59.5% last September, signaling an end to a 35-month expansion that has been losing steam for four months. The employment (47.4%) and new export orders (43.3%) indexes registered even steeper declines.

    And

    “Incoming sales seem to be slowing down, and this is usually our busiest season,” one furniture manufacturer reported, blaming “concerns about the economy and tariffs.” An electronics manufacturer noted “pockets of short supply, allocation, long lead times and the like. Tariffs continue to be a strain on the supply chain and the economy overall.”

    None of this is surprising. Businesses from Best Buy to Caterpillar this summer reported that President Trump ’s trade brawls were disrupting supply chains, reducing exports, raising material costs and delaying investment decisions. IHS Markit reported on Tuesday that its manufacturing purchasing index is the lowest since September 2009.

    Uncertainty about demand, prices and tariffs is causing business to scale back new equipment purchases. John Deere noted in its last quarter earnings that “concerns about export-market access, near-term demand for commodities such as soybeans, and overall crop conditions, have caused many farmers to postpone major equipment purchases.

    Where’s Trades Hall/Worken families when you need her?

  108. JC

    Fan

    I believe someone here argued on behalf of liberty, and quite forcibly, that irregular arrivals, or those that became a charge on the public purse could be easily swept up and returned to the place from whence they came.

    What you’re saying is that we can’t follow good policy because leftists will always scupper and degrade it. Ooookay. How about deporting leftists then?

  109. egg_

    Makes sense that neither of them want to go back to Sri Lanka

    But isn’t Lucy Gichuhi struggling here on $200k p.a. – with servants to pay and all?

  110. notafan

    I think having weak borders and then trying to sort wheat from chaff is bad policy

    though iirc the’ don’t waste money on border protection and deal’ part of the policy may have been watered down

  111. Bear Necessities

    Socialists say “Socialism has not been implemented correctly yet. Just you wait until it does…”
    Protectionists say “Tariffs have not been implemented correctly yet. Just you wait until it does…”

  112. calli

    The Tamil family’s ­eleventh-hour Federal Court bid to prevent their ­deportation has been pushed to 4pm Friday, with an injunction granted.

    Well, well, well.

    Like that’s never been done before. I’m surprised they didn’t leave it until the October long weekend.

  113. Tintarella di Luna

    It feels sooo good to let it out.

    I know what you mean, I’m glad to see you have some vocabulary left ..I’m all out of adequate adjectives —

    I read an article the other day about how wide and deep is the swamp across the Western World, it scared the tripe out of me so I stopped reading – it traced the connections between all the players not only in Russiagate but in relation to so much which affects ordinary people whose lives are the playthings of these monsters. (I feel braver to day but sadly I can’t remember where I read it or the name of the article it was late and I was entering the Land of Nod)

  114. egg_

    Tropical cyclone days are projected to decrease in frequency in the Australian region, but it is expected that a greater proportion will be higher intensity. That is, we may have fewer cyclones but the ones we do have will be stronger.

    I expect they’re wrong.

  115. egg_

    their ­deportation has been pushed to 4pm Friday

    Keep it off the News?

  116. calli

    Undercover whistleblowers spoonfeed footage of little baby goats being killed with bolt guns to their abc, in response to the enquiry into farm invasions being held today.

    Not having their throats cut in backyards?

    Astonishing.

  117. Arky

    More concrete evidence trade restrictions and tariffs are expansionary. NOT!

    ..
    If slapping tariffs on a single totalitarian country has that effect, then we fed the beast for way too long.
    Time to decouple.
    It will be good for the US, good for the Chinese, and great for the alternative suppliers that have to be found.

  118. calli

    Of course, egg_.

    On the Death of Baby Goats…maybe some activists can spoonfeed some footage of the Death of Baby Humans. Sure to cause Outrageous Moral Outrage.

    Or not.

  119. egg_

    Tropical cyclone intensities globally will likely increase on average (by 1 to 10% according to model projections for a 2 degree Celsius global warming). This change would imply an even larger percentage increase in the destructive potential per storm, assuming no reduction in storm size. Storm size responses to anthropogenic warming are uncertain.

    The very model of a modern cyclone?

  120. egg_

    More concrete evidence trade restrictions and tariffs are expansionary. NOT!

    Aren’t even the Chinks now getting stuff made in Malaysia, Thailand and Indonesia, like the Japs?

    A lot of GM/Holden stuff is now made in Thailand, ditto Ford.
    Comrade.

  121. JC

    Arky

    That electric paint stripper you use to strip the antique car… is that Chinese made, or didn’t you bother looking? If it is, throw it in the bin and try and buy one that isn’t.

    Furthermore

    We had a large number of economic “professorials” at the Cat like.. Trades Hall/Worken Families etc telling us trade restrictions would expand the US economy by infinity. WTF happened to that theory? If the decision is a purely political one now, then we should do a quick substitution and just pretend that “trades restrictions are an economic stimulus” was crap and move along.

    I’m happy with that. 🙂

  122. calli

    Oh goody.

    Sure to be a smashing hit.

    Can we have a stage show on wee and poo next?

  123. JC

    Arky

    I want you to go around the house, pick up everything that’s Chinese made and throw it in a skip. I would like to see a youtube of you doing that. Include all car components that are Chinese made.

    Go!

  124. stackja

    BrettW
    #3147499, posted on September 4, 2019 at 2:28 pm

    I believe best morning, he may prefer not to move:

    Overnight with Michael McLaren

    Michael began his radio career at 2GB in 2006 as the call-vetter for the Summer Mid-Dawn show. In 2007, 2GB asked him to join the team permanently and he accepted the role of Executive Producer of all Evening and Night programming, working alongside the likes of Murray Wilton, Philip Clarke and Brian Wilshire for just over 4 years. His on-air career commenced full-time in 2011, when he was invited to host the Australia Overnight programme; a job which he’s loved doing ever since.

  125. calli

    You couldn’t make these people up if you tried.

    Formerly a human biology teacher and sexual health educator, Peach said she was inspired to create the show after a backstage conversation with a clown.

    And there’s a 100% certainty that public money is involved.

  126. everything that’s Chinese made

    PRC or ROC?
    or both?

  127. JC

    Both

    We can’t trust them, right?

  128. Tailgunner

    JC! Your always here in payday piss up hour 😃
    Can you get an order of legit MAGA hats from Trump Tower for any Cats&Kittehs that would like to partake, please?
    Postage paid. Plus a deli sandwich equivalent per hour for the legwork.

  129. feelthebern

    Everyone bags out trade with China…until they realise they are reliant on it.

  130. feelthebern

    If this was so important to Albo & KKK, why didn’t the Labor minister give these Tamils/fake Tamils a pass?

  131. Roger

    On the Death of Baby Goats…maybe some activists can spoonfeed some footage of the Death of Baby Humans. Sure to cause Outrageous Moral Outrage.

    Covenant on the Rights of Children, cited today by lawyers for the Tamil family, includes the right of unborn children to have legal protection by the state. (Or should that be legal protection from the state?)

    Why wasn’t it trotted out by concerned lawyers during the various recent state abortion debates?

  132. Tailgunner

    Trump must embargo the joint.

    Lol, he will if he has to!
    John Constantine’s crew know it too…
    Sort of.
    They still don’t understand MAGA
    but they will 😎

  133. JC

    Gunner

    I’m there in mid October. I’ll go to Trump Tower and get you a Trump Tower MAGA hat. On one condition. You wear it on CFMEU job sites.

    Agreed?

  134. Tailgunner

    Forgot to say, good to see you in here dude.
    Since – we still have the One Chalkie Only rule up top don’t we?

  135. egg_

    How are insurance company costs faring with dreaded “Global warming” – spiralling out of control, as predicted?

  136. Tailgunner

    I already wear my MAUGA hat to work often.
    But then I can’t propaganda the site properly..
    *smoking*

  137. Tailgunner

    Thanks mate. That would be awesome 🙂

  138. Tailgunner

    Dudes, JC is in a generous mood.
    Trading in heaven style? Lol
    Get the orders in!!

  139. Tailgunner

    Jaques, why aren’t my links on bro?
    Put the tentacle porn down for a sec

  140. Tailgunner

    Arma, get away from your man, Tony Windsor and get in here.
    I’m gonna break the lame most post count game.
    In peak hour bro!!!!!

  141. Tailgunner

    Stimpson, I need some advice on denim…
    Pronto

  142. Tailgunner

    And opinions on my whiskey.
    Glen Moray.
    W/coke.
    Hand mixed. Artisan style.
    From any alcoholic minded Cats

  143. Tailgunner

    OB, good to see you too
    Where’s the beach/surf reports please
    Gotta be cute girls in bikinis somewhere in this socialist revolution??

  144. Tailgunner

    KD…pulling cute bar chicks?
    Nah,mate. Nevr appnd
    *skeptical beer chug*

  145. Twostix

    The monstering of the locals on that amall town by labor is a new low. “We dare you to say you don’t want them around…bigots”.

    Not only do they have to remain silent on the matter but we are told by labor and the urban bugmen who speak on their behalf, that they love their Mandatory Diversity.

  146. Tailgunner

    I’m trying to post a 15 second doco of my man, Mike Noland.
    But can’t.
    Trickler can post train porn all fukn say, mate?

  147. Tailgunner

    I think we’re stoushibg now, 2X…

  148. bespoke

    No thanks JC will sell the address to Antifa.

  149. egg_

    The monstering of the locals on that amall town by labor is a new low. “We dare you to say you don’t want them around…bigots”.

    Any clap-ridden honey traps for Albo?

  150. Tailgunner

    Yeh, fukn oath, mate.
    😃

  151. Twostix

    What’s wrong with all these hundreds of diverse and different countries that nobody wants to live in them by the way?

    What on earth sort of business does a sri lankan from bumfuck sri lanka have pushing his way into small town australia?

    It’s insane.

    The enitre world can’t move to the handful of white people’s countries.

  152. Tailgunner

    Is JC hooked up with the fascists now?
    No way?
    Wall St cash funding the soy street gang?
    Shit!!

  153. zyconoclast

    Why have local audiences abandoned Adam Goodes and The Australian Dream?

    There’s no doubt the film’s distributor, Madman, did everything they could to promote the film with prime festival placement, strong word-of-mouth from advance screenings and extensive press coverage. For the film’s second weekend a 2-for-1 ticket deal is being offered to anyone with an active AFL membership or AFL club membership.

    The Australian Dream is a film that’s ahead of its time in many ways, but, like Goodes, while its heart is in the right place, the nation did not rise to meet it.

    The ticket sales prove the film’s point.

  154. stackja

    Twostix
    #3147580, posted on September 4, 2019 at 4:38 pm

    Easy ALP welfare rules attract them.

  155. zyconoclast

    The enitre world can’t move to the handful of white people’s countries.

    That won’t stop them trying

  156. JC

    Can someone explain the racket to me. There was a truly evil main lander who owned a milk bar close to the family business. She was so evil, so disgusting she was forced to close the business down because no one would buy from her. Suddenly, one day the business was closed.

    One of her pals later told us she had gone back to China and died. Died of a heart attack.
    I knew it was true because of the way she explained it and truly evil people like her don’t die suddenly. Only the good die young.

    Recently, her son showed up and asking about something like the NBN. One of our people asked about his mother and what had happened to her without letting on and the son said she had gone back to China.

    What’s the lurk here? My guess is that it wouldn’t be too hard getting a false death certificate in China and sending it here to use. Is there a tax lurk as she owned the property?

  157. Pickles

    The one where Mike goes fishing is a bewdy.

  158. Twostix

    In every snall town there’s a couple of Numbers style losers. The outcasts and misfits who love the idea of abolishing the locals (who they go through life despising for not being invited to their bbq’s). They invariably gravitate to green local politics and leftwing “causes”.

    Whenver the media trots out the old “the town loves their afghani refugees – here’s someone who agrees” it’s always those local wankers doing the agreeing.

  159. notafan:

    In fact they are parasites on the Australian community leeching hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal and other expenses.

    Stop subsidising their legal expenses.
    Non citizens shouldn’t be funded for legal fees.
    If the dogooders want to fund them, then they can.

  160. Tom

    feelthebern
    #3147504, posted on September 4, 2019 at 2:33 pm
    I was too young at the time to understand, but when the Berlin Wall was coming down, one teacher at school was in tears.
    Not tears of joy.
    Their hopes of a communist paradise were gone.
    Well for a time anyway.
    A few elections ago the teacher in question ran as a Green candidate & lost.

    Great anecdote, Bern. It’s no coincidence that the Communist Party of Australia was disbanded a year before the Greenfilth was formed in 1992.

    The evil 0f communism was well known before Marxists in the education system began rewriting history after the fall of the Berlin Wall in November 1991, so communism needed a cool new image. Voila! Greenfilth!

    Diseducating millennials about communism’s murder of millions was absolutely essential to pave the way for communism’s ambition to murder millions more in the 21st century, including all the useful idiots in Australia who know nothing ab9ut how many people died in World War Two defeating the same Antifa-style fascism that the young are again embracing.

  161. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Pickles
    #3147587, posted on September 4, 2019 at 4:45 pm

    The one where Mike goes fishing is a bewdy.

    Sounds fucken skitz mate.

    Is it true under state law that I have 24 hours to prive a valid driver’s licence?

  162. Tailgunner

    The enitre world can’t move to the handful of white people’s countries.
    Word to your mother.
    The deplorables immigration policy just got updated.
    150,000 desperate female refugees per year. From SEA, fmr USSR, SthAmerica.
    Plus more African dudes.
    But they are being injected into new public housing in the areas that voted for this in the national referendum on immigration.
    Hi Brunswick! Newtown! Leftists!
    Have at it, bro 😅

  163. Tinta:

    I read an article the other day about how wide and deep is the swamp across the Western World, it scared the tripe out of me so I stopped reading – it traced the connections between all the players not only in Russiagate but in relation to so much which affects ordinary people whose lives are the playthings of these monsters

    It would be so good to have an AI/Quantum intelligence to look over the entire web of corruption, just to see the scale of the problem we need to fix.
    Another Tumbril/Guillotine episode is way too messy.

  164. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Tailgunner
    #3147568, posted on September 4, 2019 at 4:27 pm

    And opinions on my whiskey.

    Just get some Ardbeg.

  165. Tailgunner

    The one where Mike goes fishing is a bewdy
    Fishing? Listen to this xunt!
    How many fish they catch?
    “do a backflip ya’ pussy!!”
    Ahahahaha that’s me,man

  166. Twostix

    Libertarians and open borders are the above at the national level.

    Generally misfits who want to punish normal people for having a community that they can’t ever fit into (always their own doing).

  167. Tailgunner

    Frank, pist that thorium vid again dude
    Lol

  168. Tailgunner

    My crazy,stoner work….mate…put me on to NOLSY!
    Anyone that’s worked a trade will laugh mates.
    Then about a day later, Frank posts a NOLSY clip up here?
    Pffft.
    I don’t believe in coincidences,man.

  169. Tailgunner

    Italian bread.
    And side entrances.
    Still on suspension.
    Really??

  170. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Back by popular demand

  171. Twostix

    I’ve noticed in the city lately tonnes of what look like south american slobs wandering around jibber jabbering away.

    Clearly they’re living here. Who went to the lower class suburbs in south america and told them to come here.

    That’s the question.

  172. Stimpson J. Cat

    Stimpson, I need some advice on denim…
    Pronto

    Anything less than Double Denim is gay.
    I actually recently bought a pair of denim sneakers so I can do Quadruple Denim.
    You have to challenge yourself in this life Gunner.

  173. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Tailgunner
    #3147599, posted on September 4, 2019 at 4:56 pm

    My crazy,stoner work….mate…put me on to NOLSY!
    Anyone that’s worked a trade will laugh mates.
    Then about a day later, Frank posts a NOLSY clip up here?
    Pffft.
    I don’t believe in coincidences,man.

    It’s the algorithm. I can’t do a durrie, a stubbie and a cone in one breath.

  174. Top Ender

    The ticket sales prove the film’s point.

    No, they prove that people:

    a) won’t spend money to be lectured to

    b) won’t spend money to spend two hours of their time they won’t get back

    c) don’t like being NOT entertained.

  175. JC

    I actually recently bought a pair of denim sneakers

    So ghey.

  176. Tailgunner

    I actually recently bought a pair of denim sneakers

    You did not!
    Out with your schilling for Big Denim!

  177. JC:

    I want you to go around the house, pick up everything that’s Chinese made and throw it in a skip. I would like to see a youtube of you doing that. Include all car components that are Chinese made.

    Whay would Arky do that? Did everyone throw out their unused Gillette blades/products?
    Of course not. They mostly used them and when it came to renewing stocks, bought differently.
    Had they done what you suggest Arky do, the sudden demand for non Chinesium shit would take months, if not years to be met.
    There’s no point in cutting off your nose to spite your face.

  178. Bruce of Newcastle

    150,000 desperate female refugees per year. From SEA, fmr USSR, SthAmerica.
    Plus more African dudes.

    Nigerian?

    Dating apps have become a hotbed for scammers trying to trick investors into making risky trades

    Investors are being duped into risky trades by women on on dating apps and social media.

    The Australian Financial Review reported that brokers are spending more than $280 million a year on commissions for “introducers,” which include women on messaging services and dating apps reaching out to traders.

    The women receive large commissions if they’re able to convince traders to invest in “contracts for difference,” which are highly complex financial products often leveraged 200 to 500 times, according to the report.

    CFDs are now STDs.

  179. Knuckle Dragger

    FWFNT:

    ’24 hours’

    No. Allegedly you just provide a reasonable excuse.

    In the NT anyway. Apparently, so I’ve heard.

  180. Tailgunner

    I can’t do a durrie, a stubbie and a cone in one breath.

    He’s a teacher. And he’s also a mentor.

  181. Stimpson J. Cat

    I want you to go around the house, pick up everything that’s Chinese made and throw it in a skip.

    Not a good idea.
    A very large percentage of Catallaxy posters have Ching Chong significant others!
    Don’t be racist JC.
    Keep Women out of bins!
    Outrageous!

  182. Stimpson J. Cat

    So ghey.

    They are incredibly epic.
    Not a tassel in sight.

  183. Tom

    JC, I’ll have three MAGA hats from Trump Tower, please! Let me know how much cashola you need and I’m communicate. Cheers.

  184. Tailgunner

    Hey KD.. actually no, everyone…
    Why didn’t our man in Havana shag the hottie dancing in his kitchen in her knickers?
    DrBG is a virgin.
    Confirmed!!

  185. JC

    Tom

    I don’t know if they even sell the freaking things in Trump Tower. But I’ll check, just for you.

  186. feelthebern

    What’s the waiting list on the NY Trump Tower steak place?

  187. Why didn’t our man in Havana …

    He likes to watch.

  188. JC

    I’m doing a quick crossword in the OZ

    Clue is transfix = impale. That cannot be right.

  189. Geriatric Mayfly

    On the Q&A thread someone was concerned about Lionel Shriver’s credentials. Looks like she’s having a go at one of our National Treasures, Abdel Magpie. Behind the paywall.

    Identity storm in a teacup now a tempest
    What happened after Yassmin Abdel-Magied walked out on my literary festival speech was more like game hunting than art.
    LIONEL SHRIVER
    Contributor

  190. Tintarella di Luna

    I made a comment last night on Lionel Shriver’s excellent article on the stifling of imagination by the likes of that yammering ignoramus – it was rejected, I am wondering why but can’t be bothered to find out because I’m too far away – I put it down to the early morning shift of student j’simists:

    I wish Lionel Shriver were not such a nice person. Suing for defamation would have give the woke folke a lesson in not telling lies and besmirching the characters of invited guests? and for what – for listening to a look-a-me silly person who had no standing or understanding of what Ms Shriver was saying.

  191. Tailgunner

    Keep Women out of bins!
    Outrageous!

    Feminism is wrong.
    It’s a gateway drug.

  192. Tailgunner

    But I’ll check, just for you.

    Nah man, it’s THE official merch store.
    Once in a lifetime opportunity, yo
    Go Trump, you magnificent bastard

  193. egg_

    The ticket sales prove the film’s point.

    Boo!?

    /Boo hoo

  194. Stimpson J. Cat

    The entire world can’t move to the handful of white people’s countries.

    Oh yes they can.
    You want to make a difference?
    You want to stop them?
    Make Italian Gardens Great Again.
    You don’t need cheap ethnic Gardeners if your Garden is made of concrete.
    As usual I am here first with the innovative ideas and solutions.

  195. Tintarella di Luna

    Full Lionel Shriver article – Identity Storm in a Teacup now a Tempest:

    Don’t take this wrong but when I last left Australia in September of 2016, I vowed that I’d never come back.

    I’d been asked to deliver the opening address of the Brisbane literary festival. The organisers had originally requested that I speak on the theme of “community and belonging”.

    I told them for such a soft, sappy topic they had the wrong speaker. By all means, choose your own subject, they wrote back.

    I proposed to speak about identity politics in fiction, and ­received wholehearted approval.

    I chose to focus on a concept I’d only recently encountered, which at the time had primarily been used to castigate adventurous ­musicians and fashion designers. “Cultural appropriation” was a brand new taboo: “stealing” from other people’s traditions for your own evil creative purposes without “permission” — although it was baffling how one might go about securing such a licence.

    In 2016, I was hard-pressed to come up with examples of this ­peculiar no-no being used to impugn works of fiction. Alas, only three years later I’d have found copious examples of fiction writers who’ve had their knuckles rapped for helping themselves to what didn’t belong to them.

    Before delivering that lecture, I’d been solely concerned that my thesis was so self-evident that the speech would be boring.

    MORE: Writers festival told ‘lies about crazed rant’ | Lionel Shriver on Q&A: Identity politics rules create weird literary apartheid | Cultural cowardice, identity politics a stifling mix | The fight for free speech

    I advanced the moderate, commonsense proposition that to insist on authors writing only about people just like themselves would be to eliminate fiction altogether and leave only memoir.

    The audience seemed genial and open to (the) address. Yet I was later informed that one audience member, a 24-year-old from Southern Sudan, flounced down the middle aisle and out of the venue.

    The young woman, Yassmin Abdel-Magied — who has dined out on her rude exit ever since — promptly posted an indignant screed online about how deeply hurt and offended she was by my talk (much of which she did not hear). Said screed was so overwritten that it was actually funny.

    Despite the overwrought prose, The Guardian, which has an increasingly, shall we say, ambivalent relationship to my politics, picked up the blog and posted it on the paper’s website.

    The rest is history.

    This tempest in an Australian teacup burst well beyond your borders. Media across the world piled on. This deluge of commentary was abundantly condemnatory, amid a few isolated voices of defence. And the story, such as there was one, was widely misreported.

    The festival’s lies about my having gone off on some crazed, unauthorised rant were propagated everywhere. My final flourish of donning a sombrero — a droll little reference to the speech’s intro, and worn only during the last three words of the speech — was mis­described in every account.

    According to news reports, I’d worn the sombrero belligerently during the entire 45-minute ­address. Now, that was slanderous, too. I have a far better sense of theatre.

    In private, I received a surprising quantity of supportive email, some from friends I didn’t know I had, but most of these defenders didn’t take a public stand.

    It had been my intention to nip in the bud a poorly thought-out hard-left injunction that had the capacity, if widely applied, to make my occupation untenable. Instead I fear I helped spread the very concept that I’d hoped to discourage. Mea culpa. For “cultural appropriation” has in this past three years become widely regarded as forbidden in fiction.

    I confess that I’m sick of this subject. Nevertheless, my opposition to this harebrained notion has grown only more implacable. Presumably if we white writers are prevented from using “stolen” mat­erial — if we’re required, in the latest lingo, to “stay in our lane” — then, clamouring for fiction about characters from Southern Sudan, the minority-starved reading public will turn Yassmin Abdel-Magied’s recent first novel into a bestseller. I fear this model displays a poor understanding of economics and publishing both.

    When I was coming of age, we younger writers were eager to find mentors whom we admired. We inhaled the work of accomplished predecessors, the better to hone our own skills. We now have a generation that simply “cancels” the older generation, the better to clear the stage and clamber on to it. (None of these people read anymore, but mysteriously they all still want to be writers. Go figure.)

    What I encountered in Brisbane hewed to an ugly behavioural model that has more in common with big game hunting than with art.

    More fundamentally, I challenge the propositions that any of us “own” our own culture, that a culture is even subject to strict definition, and that a culture has any borders that can therefore be rigidly policed.

    Thus, I would submit: we do not even own exclusive title to ourselves. I reject this hoarding, hostile, selfish relationship to “identity”. Better that we all conduct our work and social lives in a spirit of sharing, generosity, exploration, curiosity, experimentation, and even willingness to fail in our sincere efforts to understand one another.

    This is an edited extract from Lionel Shriver’s John Bonython Lecture, which she delivered in Sydney on Tuesday night for the Centre for Independent Studies.

  196. Tailgunner

    JC, I’ll have three MAGA hats from Trump Tower, please!
    Go Tom 🙂
    JC, what’s pallet haulage cost in Manhattan? Still nafia controlled?
    Cool!

  197. JC

    You can buy them at Trump Tower.

    The cost of a ‘Make America Great Again’ hat at the Trump Tower gift shop.

    $30 bucks each.

  198. 1735099

    Diseducating millennials about communism’s murder of millions was absolutely essential to pave the way for communism’s ambition to murder millions more in the 21st century, including all the useful idiots in Australia who know nothing ab9ut how many people died in World War Two defeating the same Antifa-style fascism that the young are again embracing.

    That’s funny.
    The first time I can remember hearing the meme “Hitler was a Socialist” was in 2015.
    It’s a comparatively new rewrite.
    I was schooled in the 50s and 60s, and attended university in the mid seventies.
    One of the subjects I studied was modern European history.
    That meme simply doesn’t make an appearance in the texts I was using.
    The NAZIs (and Mussolini’s mob) were called Fascists.
    You’d have been laughed out of school/university if you had said that back then.
    That’s probably why it doesn’t fool the bulk of millennials.
    It’s a product of the far Right US blogosphere that has seeped across the Pacific.
    It’s utter bullshit and exactly the opposite of the truth, but it does have the Goebbels whiff about it.
    I believe he was a NAZI, so it figures.

  199. Tailgunner

    He likes to watch.
    Micropenis?
    Oh noes!

  200. Tailgunner

    Good Morning Vietnam!!!!!!

  201. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    The first time I can remember hearing the meme “Hitler was a Socialist” was in 2015.

    The New York Times declared so in the late 1930s.

    Shut up.

  202. Tailgunner

    Bob, seriously, you have to answer the only question…

  203. Stimpson J. Cat

    These aren’t Chinese shelias
    I know who I’d bin.

    Yes but this is JC.
    It’s absolutely horrific.

  204. feelthebern

    Jeez just looking at some EV data from China.
    Car sale numbers diabolical.
    But the EV motorbike numbers are still parabolic.

  205. Tailgunner

    How hard is it to hit a Viet Minh guerilla when he’s running across the line?

  206. egg_

    Yassmin Abdel-Magied walked out on my literary festival speech

    She thought she’d be first in the queue for the intermission feed?

  207. Arky

    feelthebern
    #3147549, posted on September 4, 2019 at 4:09 pm
    Everyone bags out trade with China…until they realise they are reliant on it.

    ..
    That is the problem.
    I spent my life working very hard not to rely on anybody.
    I don’t appreciate our crony capitalist mates putting us all over a barrel, when a little foresight a couple of decades ago would have avoided the current crisis.
    And crisis it is.

  208. feelthebern

    And crisis it is.

    I’d call it more of an opportunity.

  209. JC

    Bern

    I saw King’s Trucking with an EV the other day, parked in the street. Fully loaded, the dude told me it does 500 K.

  210. Arky

    Can someone explain the racket to me. There was a truly evil main lander who owned a milk bar close to the family business. She was so evil, so disgusting she was forced to close the business down because no one would buy from her. Suddenly, one day the business was closed.

    ..
    I don’t know about Australia, but in New Zealand all the milkbars “dairies” are now owned by Chinese because owning a business gives you residence.
    Probably the same here.
    These new business owners are very wealthy people in their own right and have no need of running a business aside from the residency aspect.
    Hence the bad attitude to customers.

  211. Dr Faustus

    What’s the lurk here? My guess is that it wouldn’t be too hard getting a false death certificate in China and sending it here to use. Is there a tax lurk as she owned the property?

    Depends on the specifics, but:

    – Acquire the property, mortgaged, interest only, at 90%+ of assessed value;
    – Second mortgage with a small, aggressive lender on the increased capital value after a few years of stupid price growth;
    – 20 x $10,000 store credit cards because property-owner credit rating;
    – Last fling – 2/3 months of non payment of business creditors.

    Then fuck off to provincial China, set up comfortably for life with A$300,000, leaving a message in Oz that you are dead.

    ATO, BoQ, Myers, David Jones and the grocery wholesaler all realise they’ve been had – and sell you to a debt collection agency for 2 cents in the $. Commercial recovery in China doesn’t exist for guizi – so the debt collector lays in wait in case you are stupid enough to return to Australia under your original name.

    If there is a capital gain involved, the ATO will eventually sell the property as first creditor…

  212. JC

    Arky

    The evil bitch went back to China and the official announcement was that she died of a sudden heart attack. It’s bullshit though because the son confirmed it. What’s the loop/racket? I’m guessing an official but phony death certificate from China would allow the property to pass to the son without stamp duty and cap gains would accrue.

  213. Gunner:
    I understand that she wasn’t such a hottie – Dr BeauGan described her booty as formidable, did he not?

  214. Stimpson J. Cat

    Still waiting on your in depth 3000 word Danger Close – The Battle Of Long Tan Film Review,
    Numbers.
    Very disappointing that you haven’t posted it here on the Open Thread of Australia’s Leading Vietnam War and Blockchain Blog.

    Hurry up please.
    Everyone, and I mean everyone is very excited and looking forward to it.

    😁

  215. Bruce of Newcastle

    JC, I’ll have three MAGA hats from Trump Tower, please!

    How uncaring you are Tom! Think of all the poor wymminses you are torturing:

    TDS-Suffering Liberal Now Triggered by ANY Red Baseball Cap

    A sensitive liberal author with an acute case of Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) took to Twitter over the weekend to express that her fragile psyche is placed in peril by any red baseball cap and also to let everyone know that she may be beyond help (LANGUAGE WARNING):

    Here is a woman who is making a sad public cry for help insisting that those like her are the “normal people.”

    I’ve left out her tweets, which you can go read at the link. But since I have the excuse I’ll include an artist’s impression of Rebecca Makkai.

  216. feelthebern

    Can’t see EV trucks in this report I’m looking at.
    Only cars & bikes.
    EV motorbikes are what they all want over there.

  217. Arky

    I’m guessing an official but phony death certificate from China would allow the property to pass to the son without stamp duty and cap gains would accrue.

    ..
    Whatever the scam, you can tell it didn’t rely on regular customers to the shop, otherwise she would have been pleasant.

  218. Tailgunner

    red baseball cap

    Hehe, it’s too easy really.
    An antifa NPC chick didn’t like my sermon to three about the Cardinals trial in the pub smoke pit.
    But it took her about 5 minutes to notice my hat.
    Then I was a “cock sucking Trump supporter”
    *Smug Pepe*

  219. Tailgunner

    Covington Boys Patriot.
    Great work,that man.
    Ridicule is our greatest weapon

  220. John Constantine

    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/australia-shifts-on-refugees-to-act-on-latest-humanitarian-crisis-20190618-p51yx8.html

    he federal government will set a new course for the nation’s refugee program by putting a higher priority on migrants from South America amid a humanitarian crisis in Venezuela.

    Immigration officials have been told to open the door to more refugees from South America in a formal directive that is likely to change the make-up of the annual 18,750 humanitarian intake from next month.

    The Latin American cartels are moving into Australias cities, lured by the superprofits caused by the failed War on Drugs. The billionaire cartels can throw aldi shopping bags full of cash around as easy as any chicom billionaire property developer.

    Mass importing a Latin America diaspora into Australias cities, at speed and volume would be a good result for a few bribes. The cartels only need to mix a few percent of their gunsharks into the mass immigration scheme and they are away.

    Who made the decisions to swing immigration Latin Americas way, and who was handed the Aldi bag?.

    We will never know.

    Gold Or Lead.

    Camarada.

  221. Arky

    That’s funny.
    The first time I can remember hearing the meme “Hitler was a Socialist” was in 2015.
    It’s a comparatively new rewrite.
    I was schooled in the 50s and 60s, and attended university in the mid seventies.
    One of the subjects I studied was modern European history.
    That meme simply doesn’t make an appearance in the texts I was using.

    ..
    You were very badly schooled, like most of your cohort.
    Even I, a maths major, came across the idea in uni.
    ..

    Horseshoe theory
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Proponents of Horseshoe Theory argue that the extreme left and the extreme right are closer to each other than either is to the political center
    In political science and popular discourse,[1] the horseshoe theory asserts that the far-left and the far-right, rather than being at opposite and opposing ends of a linear political continuum, closely resemble one another, much like the ends of a horseshoe. The theory is attributed to French philosopher and writer Jean-Pierre Faye.[2] Proponents of the theory point to a number of similarities between the far-left and the far-right, including their supposed propensity to gravitate to authoritarianism or totalitarianism. Horseshoe theory has also received substantial criticism.
    Origin
    The horse shoe metaphor was used as early as during the Weimar Republic to describe the ideology of the Black Front.[6]

    ..
    Nazis are socialist, obviously, it is in the name and in the political philosophy and their policies. And like communists, they are murderous totalitarians. Obviously. Only you and others like you who lounged about Australian universities in the seventies getting a free and unappreciated “education” do not know this.

  222. Des Deskperson

    Here’s an interesting report from whomever’s ABC:

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-04/australian-federal-police-raid-canberra-home-government-official/11477616

    Australian Federal Police have raided a Canberra house which had been the home of Australian Signals Directorate employee Cameron Gill. Reportedly a lawyer was inside the property with his ‘client’ while the raid took place.

    Gill is married to Australia’s ambassador to Iraq, Joanne Loundes, and had worked as a policy adviser in a number of ministerial offices over the last few years. Normally, Gill ‘who was living in the property as recently as March of this year’, would be in Iraq with his wife, so we have no idea who the client inside the property might have been.

    According to the report ‘It’s not known whether this raid is linked in any way to previous raids conducted by the AFP, including on News Corp’s Annika Smethurst and on the ABC.’ Ten News was suggesting it might be linked to leaked information that ASD had been asked by Home Affairs to spy on Australian citizens inside Australia, a significant shift in its powers and responsibilities.

    Blood/marriage links between the intelligence community and DFAT are not uncommon. The house pictured in the ABC report is exactly the sort of place I would expect an elite Canberra couple like Gill and Loundes to live in.

  223. Roger

    I don’t know about Australia, but in New Zealand all the milkbars “dairies” are now owned by Chinese because owning a business gives you residence.

    Whilst wandering around the Auckland CBD last year I noticed a number of Dairies that didn’t seem open for business, or only sporadically at best.

    I’m sure Jacinda is on to it.

  224. John Constantine

    If australia doesn’t sort this abject debacle of a war on drugs out pretty damn quick, it will get ugly.

    Top level vikpol winding their careers down to retirement with a laser focus on diversity recruits and hunting down dissenters that call out ” Bald Headed Flog” at the footy.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9446065/mexico-murder-rate-highest-ever-94-killings-each-day/

    MEXICO is experiencing its worst ever murder rate with 94 killings each day amid a massive surge in violence between cartels.

    The number of homicides has rocketed over the past four years with more than 3,000 people slaughtered in June alone — and over 17,000 in the first six months of this year.

    Who wouldn’t like a ticket to the soft and fleshy underbelly of the melbourne and sydney drug underground?.

    Camarada.

  225. Robert Mc

    maybe some activists can spoonfeed some footage of the Death of Baby Humans. Sure to cause Outrageous Moral Outrage.

    Or not.

    Ho hum. There was zero outrage expressed on the Cat when a Baby Human with Mosaic Trisomy 16 was recently terminated.

    Long-Term Outcomes of Children With Mosaic Trisomy 16

    Despite complications of pregnancy and an incidence of congenital anomalies close to 60 percent, a 2017 revealed encouraging information as to the long-term health of children with mosaic trisomy 16. Of school-age children with trisomy 16, 80 percent were able to attend mainstream classes. Studies looking at physical health, psychological health, and quality of life were very encouraging, showing that most of these children scored between 80 and 90 on a 100 point scale of optimal quality of life.

  226. Mark from Melbourne

    I’m doing a quick crossword in the OZ

    Quicks are for gheys, JC. Be a man and do the Cryptic!

    Oh, and I’d like a hat from Trump Tower too, please.

  227. Tailgunner

    Who wouldn’t like a ticket to the soft and fleshy underbelly of the melbourne and sydney drug underground?.

    You could put a WW2 style grass airstrip on the land couldn’t you John??
    The cartels pay well if Breaking Bad has taught me nothing.
    Profit.

  228. Frank

    These aren’t Chinese shelias

    Give it time though, the young ones from China are a lot porkier than they used to be.

  229. egg_

    I don’t know about Australia, but in New Zealand all the milkbars “dairies” are now owned by Chinese because owning a business gives you residence.

    Whilst wandering around the Auckland CBD last year I noticed a number of Dairies that didn’t seem open for business, or only sporadically at best.

    Like low occupancy rate (say 20% in school holidays) Injun run motels in the bush – with a rude attitude to patrons, to boot.
    Residency rorts?

  230. feelthebern

    Menu at the Trump Grill, Trump Tower NY.
    Looks pretty basic.

    https://www.trumptowerny.com/midtown-nyc-lunch-restaurant

  231. Tailgunner

    Oh, and I’d like a hat from Trump Tower too, please

    Go Cats! Get on for some god Emperor merch!
    The revolution is going to steal their colour even.
    MAGA

  232. Tintarella di Luna

    3 out of 4 comments rejected this morning — what a tally — student j’ismists at work

  233. John Constantine

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7407439/El-Chapos-cartel-flooding-streets-Australia-meth.html

    El Chapo’s deadly Mexican drug cartel is flooding Melbourne streets with meth, aiming to cash in massive profits to be made in Australia.

    Mexican man Juan Manuel Plaza Lopez, 42, fronted Melbourne Magistrate’s Court on Thursday after $566million worth of ice was seized in the largest onshore bust of drugs coming from Mexico.

    Lopez was charged over an alleged plot to hide 755kg of ice in 18 pallets of cow hides.

    The Australian Federal Police are trying to figure out whether or not the infamous Sinaloa cartel once headed by Joaquín ‘El Chapo’ Guzmán was linked to the bust, Herald Sun reported.

    The cowhides were a bit rank and mouldy so they said.

    Camarada.

  234. calli

    Ridicule is our greatest weapon

    That would be Tactical Assault Ridicule, Gunner.

    With a backup bandolier of Deep Contempt.

  235. Top Ender

    Hitler and the socialist dream

    George Watson
    22 November 1998

    He declared that ‘national socialism was based on Marx’. Socialists have always disowned him. But a new book insists that he was, at heart, a left-winger

    In April 1945, when Adolf Hitler died by his own hand in the rubble of Berlin, nobody was much interested in what he had once believed. That was to be expected. War is no time for reflection, and what Hitler had done was so shattering, and so widely known through images of naked bodies piled high in mass graves, that little or no attention could readily be paid to National Socialism as an idea. It was hard to think of it as an idea at all. Hitler, who had once looked a crank or a clown, was exposed as the leader of a gang of thugs, and the world was content to know no more than that.

    Half a century on, there is much to be said. Even thuggery can have its reasons, and the materials that have newly appeared, though they may not transform judgement, undoubtedly enrich and deepen it. Confidants of Hitler. such as the late Albert Speer, have published their reminiscences; his wartime table-talk is a book; early revelations like Hermann Rauschning’s Hitler Speaks of 1939 have been validated by painstaking research, and the notes of dead Nazis like Otto Wagener have been edited, along with a full text of Goebbels’s diary.

    It is now clear beyond all reasonable doubt that Hitler and his associates believed they were socialists, and that others, including democratic socialists, thought so too. The title of National Socialism was not hypocritical. The evidence before 1945 was more private than public, which is perhaps significant in itself. In public Hitler was always anti-Marxist, and in an age in which the Soviet Union was the only socialist state on earth, and with anti-Bolshevism a large part of his popular appeal, he may have been understandably reluctant to speak openly of his sources. His megalomania, in any case, would have prevented him from calling himself anyone’s disciple. That led to an odd and paradoxical alliance between modern historians and the mind of a dead dictator. Many recent analysts have fastidiously refused to study the mind of Hitler; and they accept, as unquestioningly as many Nazis did in the 1930s, the slogan “Crusade against Marxism” as a summary of his views. An age in which fascism has become a term of abuse is unlikely to analyse it profoundly.

    His private conversations, however, though they do not overturn his reputation as an anti-Communist, qualify it heavily. Hermann Rauschning, for example, a Danzig Nazi who knew Hitler before and after his accession to power in 1933, tells how in private Hitler acknowledged his profound debt to the Marxian tradition. “I have learned a great deal from Marxism” he once remarked, “as I do not hesitate to admit”. He was proud of a knowledge of Marxist texts acquired in his student days before the First World War and later in a Bavarian prison, in 1924, after the failure of the Munich putsch. The trouble with Weimar Republic politicians, he told Otto Wagener at much the same time, was that “they had never even read Marx”, implying that no one who had failed to read so important an author could even begin to understand the modern world; in consequence, he went on, they imagined that the October revolution in 1917 had been “a private Russian affair”, whereas in fact it had changed the whole course of human history! His differences with the communists, he explained, were less ideological than tactical. German communists he had known before he took power, he told Rauschning, thought politics meant talking and writing. They were mere pamphleteers, whereas “I have put into practice what these peddlers and pen pushers have timidly begun”, adding revealingly that “the whole of National Socialism” was based on Marx.

    That is a devastating remark and it is blunter than anything in his speeches or in Mein Kampf.; though even in the autobiography he observes that his own doctrine was fundamentally distinguished from the Marxist by reason that it recognised the significance of race – implying, perhaps, that it might otherwise easily look like a derivative. Without race, he went on, National Socialism “would really do nothing more than compete with Marxism on its own ground”. Marxism was internationalist. The proletariat, as the famous slogan goes, has no fatherland. Hitler had a fatherland, and it was everything to him.

    Yet privately, and perhaps even publicly, he conceded that National Socialism was based on Marx. On reflection, it makes consistent sense. The basis of a dogma is not the dogma, much as the foundation of a building is not the building, and in numerous ways National Socialism was based on Marxism. It was a theory of history and not, like liberalism or social democracy, a mere agenda of legislative proposals. And it was a theory of human, not just of German, history, a heady vision that claimed to understand the whole past and future of mankind. Hitler’s discovery was that socialism could be national as well as international. There could be a national socialism. That is how he reportedly talked to his fellow Nazi Otto Wagener in the early 1930s. The socialism of the future would lie in “the community of the volk”, not in internationalism, he claimed, and his task was to “convert the German volk to socialism without simply killing off the old individualists”, meaning the entrepreneurial and managerial classes left from the age of liberalism. They should be used, not destroyed. The state could control, after all, without owning, guided by a single party, the economy could be planned and directed without dispossessing the propertied classes.

    That realisation was crucial. To dispossess, after all, as the Russian civil war had recently shown, could only mean Germans fighting Germans, and Hitler believed there was a quicker and more efficient route. There could be socialism without civil war.

    Now that the age of individualism had ended, he told Wagener, the task was to “find and travel the road from individualism to socialism without revolution”. Marx and Lenin had seen the right goal, but chosen the wrong route – a long and needlessly painful route – and, in destroying the bourgeois and the kulak, Lenin had turned Russia into a grey mass of undifferentiated humanity, a vast anonymous horde of the dispossessed; they had “averaged downwards”; whereas the National Socialist state would raise living standards higher than capitalism had ever known. It is plain that Hitler and his associates meant their claim to socialism to be taken seriously; they took it seriously themselves.

    For half a century, none the less, Hitler has been portrayed, if not as a conservative – the word is many shades too pale – at least as an extreme instance of the political right. It is doubtful if he or his friends would have recognised the description. His own thoughts gave no prominence to left and right, and he is unlikely to have seen much point in any linear theory of politics. Since he had solved for all time the enigma of history, as he imagined, National Socialism was unique. The elements might be at once diverse and familiar, but the mix was his.

    Hitler’s mind, it has often been noticed, was in many ways backward-looking: not medievalising, on the whole, like Victorian socialists such as Ruskin and William Morris, but fascinated by a far remoter past of heroic virtue. It is now widely forgotten that much the same could be said of Marx and Engels.

    It is the issue of race, above all, that for half a century has prevented National Socialism from being seen as socialist. The proletariat may have no fatherland, as Lenin said. But there were still, in Marx’s view, races that would have to be exterminated. That is a view he published in January-February 1849 in an article by Engels called “The Hungarian Struggle” in Marx’s journal the Neue Rheinische Zeitung, and the point was recalled by socialists down to the rise of Hitler. It is now becoming possible to believe that Auschwitz was socialist-inspired. The Marxist theory of history required and demanded genocide for reasons implicit in its claim that feudalism was already giving place to capitalism, which must in its turn be superseded by socialism. Entire races would be left behind after a workers’ revolution, feudal remnants in a socialist age; and since they could not advance two steps at a time, they would have to be killed. They were racial trash, as Engels called them, and fit only for the dung-heap of history.

    That brutal view, which a generation later was to be fortified by the new pseudo-science of eugenics, was by the last years of the century a familiar part of the socialist tradition, though it is understandable that since the liberation of Auschwitz in January 1945 socialists have been eager to forget it. But there is plenty of evidence in the writings of HG Wells, Jack London, Havelock Ellis, the Webbs and others to the effect that socialist commentators did not flinch from drastic measures. The idea of ethnic cleansing was orthodox socialism for a century and more.

    So the socialist intelligentsia of the western world entered the First World War publicly committed to racial purity and white domination and no less committed to violence. Socialism offered them a blank cheque, and its licence to kill included genocide. In 1933, in a preface to On the Rocks, for example, Bernard Shaw publicly welcomed the exterminatory principle which the Soviet Union had already adopted. Socialists could now take pride in a state that had at last found the courage to act, though some still felt that such action should be kept a secret. In 1932 Beatrice Webb remarked at a tea-party what “very bad stage management” it had been to allow a party of British visitors to the Ukraine to see cattle-trucks full of starving “enemies of the state” at a local station. “Ridiculous to let you see them”, said Webb, already an eminent admirer of the Soviet system. “The English are always so sentimental” adding, with assurance: “You cannot make an omelette without breaking eggs.” A few years later, in 1935, a Social Democratic government in Sweden began a eugenic programme for the compulsory sterilisation of gypsies, the backward and the unfit, and continued it until after the war.

    The claim that Hitler cannot really have been a socialist because he advocated and practised genocide suggests a monumental failure, then, in the historical memory. Only socialists in that age advocated or practised genocide, at least in Europe, and from the first years of his political career Hitler was proudly aware of the fact. Addressing his own party, the NSDAP, in Munich in August 1920, he pledged his faith in socialist-racialism: “If we are socialists, then we must definitely be anti-semites – and the opposite, in that case, is Materialism and Mammonism, which we seek to oppose.” There was loud applause. Hitler went on: “How, as a socialist, can you not be an anti-semite?” The point was widely understood, and it is notable that no German socialist in the 1930s or earlier ever sought to deny Hitler’s right to call himself a socialist on grounds of racial policy. In an age when the socialist tradition of genocide was familiar, that would have sounded merely absurd. The tradition, what is more, was unique. In the European century that began in the 1840s from Engels’s article of 1849 down to the death of Hitler, everyone who advocated genocide called himself a socialist, and no exception has been found.

    The first reactions to National Socialism outside Germany are now largely forgotten. They were highly confused, for the rise of fascism had caught the European left by surprise. There was nothing in Marxist scripture to predict it and must have seemed entirely natural to feel baffled. Where had it all come from? Harold Nicolson, a democratic socialist, and after 1935 a Member of the House of Commons, conscientiously studied a pile of pamphlets in his hotel room in Rome in January 1932 and decided judiciously that fascism (Italian-style) was a kind of militarised socialism; though it destroyed liberty, he concluded in his diary, “it is certainly a socialist experiment in that it destroys individuality”. The Moscow view that fascism was the last phase of capitalism, though already proposed, was not yet widely heard. Richard remarked in a 1934 BBC talk that many students in Nazi Germany believed they were “digging the foundations of a new German socialism”.

    By the outbreak of civil war in Spain, in 1936, sides had been taken, and by then most western intellectuals were certain that Stalin was left and Hitler was right. That sudden shift of view has not been explained, and perhaps cannot be explained, except on grounds of argumentative convenience. Single binary oppositions – cops-and-robbers or cowboys-and-indians – are always satisfying. The Molotov-Ribbentrop pact was seen by hardly anybody as an attempt to restore the unity of socialism. A wit at the British Foreign Office is said to have remarked that all the “Isms” were now “Wasms”, and the general view was that nothing more than a cynical marriage of convenience had taken place.

    By the outbreak of world war in 1939 the idea that Hitler was any sort of socialist was almost wholly dead. One may salute here an odd but eminent exception. Writing as a committed socialist just after the fall of France in 1940, in The Lion and the Unicorn, Orwell saw the disaster as a “physical debunking of capitalism”, it showed once and for all that “a planned economy is stronger than a planless one”, though he was in no doubt that Hitler’s victory was a tragedy for France and for mankind. The planned economy had long stood at the head of socialist demands; and National Socialism, Orwell argued, had taken from socialism “just such features as will make it efficient for war purposes”. Hitler had already come close to socialising Germany. “Internally, Germany has a good deal in common with a socialist state.” These words were written just before Hitler’s attack on the Soviet Union. Orwell believed that Hitler would go down in history as “the man who made the City of London laugh on the wrong side of its face” by forcing financiers to see that planning works and that an economic free-for-all does not.

    At its height, Hitler’s appeal transcended party division. Shortly before they fell out in the summer of 1933, Hitler uttered sentiments in front of Otto Wagener, which were published after his death in 1971 as a biography by an unrepentant Nazi. Wagener’s Hitler: Memoirs of a Confidant, composed in a British prisoner-of-war camp, did not appear until 1978 in the original German, and arrived in English, without much acclaim, as recently as 1985. Hitler’s remembered talk offers a vision of a future that draws together many of the strands that once made utopian socialism irresistibly appealing to an age bred out of economic depression and cataclysmic wars; it mingles, as Victorian socialism had done before it, an intense economic radicalism with a romantic enthusiasm for a vanished age before capitalism had degraded heroism into sordid greed and threatened the traditional institutions of the family and the tribe.

    Socialism, Hitler told Wagener shortly after he seized power, was not a recent invention of the human spirit, and when he read the New Testament he was often reminded of socialism in the words of Jesus. The trouble was that the long ages of Christianity had failed to act on the Master’s teachings. Mary and Mary Magdalen, Hitler went on in a surprising flight of imagination, had found an empty tomb, and it would be the task of National Socialism to give body at long last to the sayings of a great teacher: “We are the first to exhume these teachings.” The Jew, Hitler told Wagener, was not a socialist, and the Jesus they crucified was the true creator of socialist redemption. As for communists, he opposed them because they created mere herds, Soviet-style, without individual life, and his own ideal was “the socialism of nations” rather than the international socialism of Marx and Lenin. The one and only problem of the age, he told Wagener, was to liberate labour and replace the rule of capital over labour with the rule of labour over capital.

    These are highly socialist sentiments, and if Wagener reports his master faithfully they leave no doubt about the conclusion: that Hitler was an unorthodox Marxist who knew his sources and knew just how unorthodox the way in which he handled them was. He was a dissident socialist. His programme was at once nostalgic and radical. It proposed to accomplish something that Christians had failed to act on and that communists before him had attempted and bungled. “What Marxism, Leninism and Stalinism failed to accomplish,” he told Wagener, “we shall be in a position to achieve.”

    That was the National Socialist vision. It was seductive, at once traditional and new. Like all so- cialist views it was ultimately moral, and its economic and racial policies were seen as founded on universal moral laws. By the time such conversations saw the light of print, regrettably, the world had put such matters far behind it, and it was less than ever ready to listen to the sayings of a crank or a clown.

    That is a pity. The crank, after all, had once offered a vision of the future that had made a Victorian doctrine of history look exciting to millions. Now that socialism is a discarded idea, such excitement is no doubt hard to recapture. To relive it again, in imagination, one might look at an entry in Goebbels’s diaries. On 16 June 1941, five days before Hitler attacked the Soviet Union, Goebbels exulted, in the privacy of his diary, in the victory over Bolshevism that he believed would quickly follow. There would be no restoration of the tsars, he remarked to himself, after Russia had been conquered. But Jewish Bolshevism would be uprooted in Russia and “real socialism” planted in its place – “Der echte Sozialismus”. Goebbels was a liar, to be sure, but no one can explain why he would lie to his diaries. And to the end of his days he believed that socialism was what National Socialism was about.

    The Lost Literature of Socialism by George Watson is published by Lutterworth, 15 pounds

  236. calli

    I was too much of a tightwad to buy a MAGA hat when I was in Vegas.

    Regret is a terrible thing.

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