Brexit reveals what parliament thinks of the people

Today in The Australian

For the past few months Britain has been a nation busily engaged in building its own funeral pyre.

This week Britain leapt into the roaring flames.

Perhaps something will be saved from the conflagration but, regardless of how Brexit ends, it is becoming harder and harder to believe that Britain will ever be the same again.

About Henry Ergas

Henry Ergas AO is a columnist for The Australian. From 2009 to 2015 he was Senior Economic Adviser to Deloitte Australia and from 2009 to 2017 was Professor of Infrastructure Economics at the University of Wollongong’s SMART Infrastructure Facility. He joined SMART and Deloitte after working as a consultant economist at NECG, CRA International and Concept Economics. Prior to that, he was an economist at the OECD in Paris from the late 1970s until the early 1990s. At the OECD, he headed the Secretary-General’s Task Force on Structural Adjustment (1984-1987), which concentrated on improving the efficiency of government policies in a wide range of areas, and was subsequently Counsellor for Structural Policy in the Economics Department. He has taught at a range of universities, undertaken a number of government inquiries and served as a Lay Member of the New Zealand High Court. In 2016, he was made an Officer in the Order of Australia.
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29 Responses to Brexit reveals what parliament thinks of the people

  1. stackja

    Another Britain ‘civil war’.

  2. Behind Enemy Lines

    Time for another Cromwell. Until then, the English should follow the example of Hong Kong.

  3. Bruce of Newcastle

    I posted this story on the OT, but it is worthwhile to repeat:

    Get on with it! Boris has public backing for Oct 31 Brexit despite Commons chaos – poll

    A Hanbury Strategy Poll asked 995 people on September 3 and 4: “Boris Johnson has committed to the UK leaving the EU with or without a deal on October 31. “Do you agree or disagree with this position?” The results showed 52 percent of voters said they agreed, while 38 percent said they did not. A total of 10 percent did not know either way.

    Those numbers neatly illustrate just how undemocratic the elites in the Commons are right now. If they maintain this high handed action, spitting in the face of ordinary Pom voters, there’s going to be a bust up like nothing seen since the 17th Century. Maybe they can get the new Prince of Orange, Donald the Great, to come in and boot out the insufferable regime.

  4. a happy little debunker

    The Political Classes asked the peasants what they wanted.
    The peasants responded by telling the Political Classes what they wanted.

    The Political Classes publicly disagreed and subsequently undertook everything in their power to ensure they couldn’t deliver to the peasants what they wanted.

    BLOODY PEASANTS!

    bo plo jo plo sho bo ro flo xo kro to

  5. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    The Britain I was schooled in, in those far off 1950’s days of post-war social mobility and social stability, is long gone but a sense of it remains. The population now is far bigger and more diverse ethnically but the ‘idea’ of Britain and its sovereignty is still attractive to many, both old and new Britons.

    Britain may have to go down with Europe, in order to rise again. So many forces are lined up against Brexit that it will take a European economic tragedy to bring the idea of sovereignty to the fore again in Britain and probably in other nations; a long drawn-out process. Climatic lunacy and crony capitalism will do well in the meantime. Remember the old wisdom that there is a lot of ruin in a Nation.

    Electorally, we should not discount the power of the elite voices currently controlling the media and political agenda, nor discount the turn to socialism which a more desperate people may blindly grasp in a terrible and vain hope. A rising tide of electoral Brexit is the only way forward, unlikely to be successful, the voters worn down by false alarmism and political chicanery.

    Britain is now at Munich redux, taking the EU promise of ‘peace in our time’ but under our rules. Boris was a last Churchillian hope, albeit flawed by his climatic madness. He may yet stagger on to deliver an EU approved ‘deal’, something that is not actually Brexit but just pretends to be, tying Britain up to the EU in further knots both legally and economically and holding few good cards as all bargaining power is lost: the worst of all worlds. More unwanted immigration via EU directives will definitely further change the Britain that once was; a traditional culture swamped, overwhelmed by the political timidity of Conservative Remainers and by too great a fondness from everyday Brits for the poisoned chalice of the European Passport. It does not come cost free.

  6. Robbo

    This is what happens when you hand over your country to a group of other nations. The UK did not think things through when they jumped into the EU. Now they are self destructing as they try to extricate themselves from this phony alliance of bankrupt nations (with the sole exception of Germany). The EU needs the UK much more than the UK needs the EU but the deadheads in Britain would rather play politics than admit that the referendum got it right. If Johnson gets his way and an election is held then we will see what the voters actually want right now and I think it could well be a pox on both your houses with the Brexit Party winning a majority and Nigel Farage becoming PM. Now wouldn’t that be interesting?

  7. Tom

    Thank you, Henry — a splendid historical essay, though I think you are far too pessimistic about the future:

    It may require a long march through the dry desert of wasted years before new ones arise to take their place.

    No, it won’t. It will simply require the anti-democratic human scum in the British parliament to face an election to let the people decide their future.

    Britain’s democratic crisis is the result of a constitution that is so weak it doesn’t spell out that members of parliament are employed by the people and subservient to them — a constitution so weak that it can be usurped by ill-defined “conventions”.

    It’s time for the people to decide. And they will.

  8. Andre Lewis

    I still think only an election this year will solve the problem and Johnson needs to stitch up a deal with Farage not to cannibalise each others candidates. Between the Tories that respect the peoples vote and the Brexit Party the UK should have a majority govt that can tell the Brussels mandarins to get stuffed.

  9. Genghis

    I was wondering if the EU want the UK back. Nigel Farage is annoying them as a guy from hell showing up their pathetic global posturing as the EU sinks further into the abys. Has any one else heard of or seen the doco’s on what the EU Commission think of the UK? From what I understand on the video it would be best the UK leaves. I believe they were not allowed out of the UK.

  10. max

    Karl Marx:

    private property is abolished as soon as the property qualification for the right to elect or be elected is abolished,

    The political elevation of man above religion shares all the defects and all the advantages of political elevation in general. The state as a state annuls, for instance, private property, man declares by political means that private property is abolished as soon as the property qualification for the right to elect or be elected is abolished, as has occurred in many states of North America.

    Is not private property abolished in idea if the non-property owner has become the legislator for the property owner? The property qualification for the suffrage is the last political form of giving recognition to private property.

  11. max

    “The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public’s money.”, – Alexis de Tocqueville

  12. A Lurker

    Clearly Britain has returned to its feudal past.

  13. max

    Never trust quotations without a definite source

    “A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy.”

  14. Zatara

    It’s time for the people to decide. And they will.

    They did decide, back in June 2016, and they were ignored. Brexit was to have happened by 29 March 2019 but Parliament continues to act as if that vote was merely an advisory poll rather than a directive vote.

    It will simply require the anti-democratic human scum in the British parliament to face an election to let the people decide their future.

    Unfortunately that presumes there is someone to vote for who will actually improve the situation.

    The ratbags currently serving in the House of Commons were all elected. In fact there was a general election in 2017, long after the Brexit vote and the resultant shite-storm, and yet they still refuse to obey the will of the people.

    What will it take to break that mindset? Who knows but I doubt a mere general election will do it, it didn’t before.

  15. Just drop a couple of 2000lbs bombs on the EU Parliament (preferably when it’s in session, but about 20% of the public might raise an eyebrow to that) and announce “We’re out. Any questions?”
    It’s simple really.

  16. A Lurker

    The British people should remember, remember the fifth of November.

  17. stackja

    Where was the ‘EU’ in September 1939? Behind the Maginot Line?

  18. Viva

    the English should follow the example of Hong Kong.

    What will it take to bring the English out into the streets?

  19. stackja

    Viva – EU lawyers dictating like Red China?

  20. What will it take to bring the English out into the streets?

    Free pork pies and beer?

  21. Dr Fred Lenin

    This proves the parliament is full of people who. Are prepared to sign thheir counntry of birth into subservience to a bunch of unelected foreign has been politicians for self aggrandisment and no doubt reward . These maggots. Were ellected in 20177 on a platform oof leaving the coorrupt EU,since then thhey have done everything possible too thwart the desire of the people . This is conspiricy and criminality of the first order and withoout doubt High Treason . Send in the Special Branch ,arrest them and have a fleet of water taxis take them down the Thames to the Tower for admission. through the Traitors Gate . Recruit a few Headsmen and let the retributiion begin ,filmed by the BBc comrades with Attenborough commentating

  22. Ivan Denisovich

    thhey have done everything possible too thwart the desire of the people

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGe3V9mEfbk

  23. Howard Hill

    What will it take to bring the English out into the streets?

    Seeing as the lunacy is just as bad here re climate change and state corruption, what will it take to get the Australian people out on the streets?

  24. Delcon

    The Tories had three long years in which they were in power to implement Brexit. Somehow they managed to do the unthinkable and failed.
    Labour in Britain is led by a terrorist supporter.
    Maybe time for the two major parties in Britain to go the way of the Dodo.
    Followed later here in Oz.

  25. Politenessman

    You may vote, until you get it right.

  26. Dr Fred Lenin

    Looks like that evil bastard soros has bought a majority of the UK career polliemaggots .
    Farage accused 200 odd of the EU puppet parliament of being bought by the mongrel and strangely was not contradicted by the accused crims .
    Soros deserves to go the way of Frasers mate the killer mugabe who died today , the world would be a cleaner place without them .
    Do these EU traitors really think they are going to get away with this ? Im sure the voters memories are not that short ,retribution is at hand . If Boris refuses to implement the treasonous act what can they do ? That act is unconstitutional ,parliament cannot defy the will of the people so the lawyers would say to uphold the act an election must be held to ascertain the will of the voters,and clarify the dispute .

  27. Goanna

    Traditional Labour voters won’t vote Conservative but they will vote Farage in an instant.

    Farage and Boris can put the sword to the liberals and to the unashamedly racist Labour.

    Boris just needs a shot in the arm of courage ( it will hurt!)

  28. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Farage and Boris can put the sword to the liberals

    Please. Say progressives.

    UKIP grew out of a classical liberal movement.

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