Open Forum: September 7, 2019

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  1. Mark A

    but I’m just finishing work.

  2. Rossini

    Evening all
    Melbourne Storm finish on top of the league ladder

  3. Steve trickler

    This’ll probably send you to sleep. A fine piece, here.



  4. Knuckle Dragger

    Steve Smith gave every other Test batsman in the world an eight month head start, and he’s leading the pack for runs scored in a calendar year.

    It’s been said before but worth reinforcing. Shit captain. Award-winning sook. Great, great batsman.

  5. Crossie

    Mark A
    #3149326, posted on September 7, 2019 at 12:05 am
    but I’m just finishing work.

    Could this mean that you live in WA? This may be common knowledge to everyone else except me but I don’t keep track unless it’s in your name.

  6. Mark A

    Crossie
    #3149340, posted on September 7, 2019 at 12:37 am

    Could this mean that you live in WA? This may be common knowledge to everyone else except me but I don’t keep track unless it’s in your name.

    Crossie, I live and work in the EU.
    Originally form the Kyneton district Vic.

    Local time here is 4:40PM

  7. Steve trickler

    It is worth noting, Goolag is not happy with this clip. They buried it. Have a guess why?

    A repeat from the previous thread. The following does not put a smile a your face. Truth be told, i had forgotten it.



  8. None

    I see the perpetual bitchfest which is the Queensland state government is continuing.

  9. None

    Just watch the Avi clip with the Melbourne socialists at the Hong Kong rally again. Where did these smarmy bullying socialists come from? Well done to Abby for calling them out especially when he quite firmly told that fukwit woman not to touch him full stop frankly I would find it hard not to deck her had she put a finger on me. on me

  10. None

    It’s been said before but worth reinforcing. Shit captain. Award-winning sook. Great, great batsman.

    +1

  11. Crossie

    Crossie, I live and work in the EU.
    Originally form the Kyneton district Vic.

    Local time here is 4:40PM

    You poor thing, I feel for you. As long as you retire in the lucky country you should be right however, if you retire anywhere else you’re on your own.

  12. Zatara

    Did someone mention soylent green?

    Swedish Researcher Pushes Eating Human Flesh as Answer to Future Climate Change Food Shortages

    In a talk titled “Can you Imagine Eating Human Flesh?” behavioral scientist and marketing strategist Magnus Söderlund from “Handelshögskolan” (College of Commerce) argues for the breaking down of the ancient taboos against desecrating the human corpse and eating human flesh.

    He refers to the taboos against it as “conservative,” and discusses people’s resistance to it as a problem that could be overcome, little by little, beginning with persuading people to just taste it.

  13. Zatara

    Just watch the Avi clip with the Melbourne socialists at the Hong Kong rally again. Where did these smarmy bullying socialists come from?

    Anyone who has been following the vids coming out of Hong Kong closely might have noticed the attire and conduct of the supposed chicom police or security forces.

    Look very closely at what some are wearing and you will notice that they aren’t uniform at all. For instance, although carrying/wearing some outward sign of uniform/equipment like a helmet, vest or baton to mark them as being on the side of the reds they are often wearing varied types of track shoes, jeans, t-shirts, ect.

    The standard of training also varies radically between the supposed “security forces” in the vids. Some can’t seem to get out of their own way and would drown in a rainshower. Others seem quite capable of riot control and making arrests

    IMO the chicoms have been importing everyday average civilian thugs from the mainland to crack sculls.

  14. Leigh Lowe

    Poms in big trouble.
    Dancin’ in de street here in Asbury Park NJ.
    The dancin’ may or may not be related to the fall of two quick wickets.

  15. Tom

    Poms 200-5 chasing 497-8d with no rain in the forecast for the rest of the weekend in Manchester. Straya $1.65 favourites.

  16. Tom

    Umpires have called play because of poor light, England’s only friend.

  17. jupes

    It’s been said before but worth reinforcing. Shit captain. Award-winning sook. Great, great batsman.

    Never have truer words been spoken.

    Second only to Bradman.

  18. jupes

    Crossie, I live and work in the EU.

    So do I but I’ve had a gutful of the Frogs and their stupid country. I’m coming home.

    … Might have a couple of weeks holiday here first though.

  19. Tom

    The BoJo derangement couldn’t last, so it’s back to the trusty old Trump derangement for
    David Rowe.

  20. Tom

    I’m watching Sky UK’s Get Boris coverage. The media loathe him and will do whatever it can to damage him. Sky’s latest earth-shattering “exclusive” — delivered by the obligatory black Caribbean-born news anchor — is that BoJo referred in a hand-written note to former Conservative prime minister and fellow Etonian David Cameron as a “girly swot”. Forget about Cameron’s feelings; our black host informs us that this is terribly offensive to wymmymses.

    Eric Blair (a.k.a. George Orwell) looks down from above on the fiasco of modern Britain as the timid captive of the language fascists, who have compulsorily proscribed honesty and humour in a country that used to be a world capital for both.

  21. bespoke

    Didn’t know George Orwell’s real name was Eric Blair. Why did he pick it?

  22. DrBeauGan

    Eric Blair (a.k.a. George Orwell) looks down from above on the fiasco of modern Britain as the timid captive of the language fascists, who have compulsorily proscribed honesty and humour in a country that used to be a world capital for both.

    There have always been grimly humourless control freaks around. Now they’re on a roll.: how that happened needs an explanation. Twitter and facebook help them look as if they have the numbers, which I don’t believe, but there has to be more than that.

    The rest of us should laugh at them.

  23. bespoke

    I think areff liked to these guys. Looks fun to watch but I don’t think CASA will let go past the prototype model with out ducts. Blades spinning horizontally that close to you WOW!. It also reminded me of a quad designed by an American RC helicopter champion but his one had rotating arms. It ended up being cloned by you know who.

  24. Eyrie

    bespoke, CASA won’t have much to say. They will get Part 21 Airworthiness Certificates “Experimental – Air Racing/Exhibition”.

  25. bespoke

    Cheers Eyrie. I hope so the it looks more fun to watch then blokes playing with balls.

  26. Eyrie

    It is not only a good day, it is a great day. Mugabe has gone to join his enabler Malcolm Fraser, burning in hell.
    Fraser is a great example of how self delusion and “good intentions” can cause great evil and suffering. Similar to the bother Malcolm, come to think of it. See also John W. Howard.

  27. Eyrie

    Visiting the totalitarian thuggocracy of UnZud currently. Nice country, full of sheep. Some even have 4 legs.

  28. bespoke

    Cheers Eyrie. I hope so it looks more fun then watching blokes play with there 🏉’s

  29. Mater

    Top Ender,
    Another really good one for your collection. Short, sweet and to the point.

    The Myth of “Nazi Capitalism”

  30. John Constantine

    COE cooper announce the first gas exploration success in the offshore victorian Otway basin for a decade.

    A few kilometers from Port Campbell, so ‘whale save australia’ may try to protest.

    Existing infrastructure and the Minerva gas plant could mean gas from this discovery into victorian shortfall in three years.

    The Tyrant of yarragrad still bans onshore gas exploration to allow his sponsors the concession to build gas import terminals.

    Tyrants and Cronies.

    Comrade Maaaaaates.

  31. Mater

    Visiting the totalitarian thuggocracy of UnZud currently. Nice country, full of sheep. Some even have 4 legs.

    At the same time as the New Zealand Government are jailing people for possessing what their “Chief Censor” classifies as an “objectionable” video, they are simultaneously removing what the same Government now class as ‘illegal’ guns.

    If alarm bells aren’t already ringing, New Zealanders don’t have the nous I once credited them with.

  32. Bruce of Newcastle

    Fun idea – Boris could get an election despite MPs voting against it…by voting against himself:

    Shocking way Boris could still force general election before EU summit Labour cannot stop

    …the other option that is also under consideration is calling a no confidence vote in Boris Johnson himself.

    “Now, on that basis, the 14 days cooling-off period which allows opposition parties to try and cobble together an alternative Government – and that could be an opportunity for Jeremy Corbyn or Mr Blackford to try and form a government to extend Article 50 and see that through.

    “But Parliament is prorogued, so this raises a very interesting question.

    “If Mr Johnson loses a confidence vote next week, how could the opposition prove an alternative?

    “They probably couldn’t, so we’d have that 14-day period and then spill into an election.”

    So Boris calls a vote of confidence/no confidence. If he wins confidence he has a mandate and the rebels and Labour look silly, since they’d have to vote for Boris to stop him successfully voting against himself. If he loses the vote of no confidence the Commons are prorogued already so Corbyn can’t form a government within the 14 day time limit. So an election happens. Boris wins either way.

    That is pretty neat!

    This is like the famous soccer match where, due a golden goal extra time rule, Grenada had to score either a goal or an own goal to advance over Barbados to the next round, forcing Barbados to defend both nets at the same time…

  33. Herodotus

    BBC can’t decide whether Mugabe was a heroic leader of his country out of the hell of colonialism or a bloodthirsty tyrant who overstayed for 37 years.
    The latter is par for the course in most “nations” in Africa from the 1950s onwards as they essayed independence but got for the most part bloodthirsty kleptocrats who were reluctant to hand over power until they either died or were dispatched in a coup.
    Many mentions were made of his supposed fostering of Health and Education – it’s an incantation we hear often from the mouths of Labor and their media acolytes. But Mugabe died in a Singapore hospital while back home the hospitals are in a parlous state and the nation’s economy has gone from healthy to cot case.
    A large part of that destruction came in the form of eviction of white farmers from their productive lands, to be replaced with blacks who couldn’t get the same results. This was praised by some as rectifying the colonial hell. South Africa appears to be repeating that disastrous pattern.

  34. John Constantine

    Leftist rabble paramilitaries deployed under the protection of vikpol in melbourne yesterday caused significant disruption to the lives of numerous proles.

    The lesson is to Flee, Cower and Beg, because the State has the monopoly on Violence.

    It is still too soon for the yarragrad left to target Football finals [ male] for disruptive protests, the groundswell from Collingwoods toothless brawling herds was that protesters that tried to bar the way into the game would be smashed to a pulp.

    The political rallies posing as wymynsys football, and the chicom secret police spy cameras and social credit dobbers at the footy grounds are the Tyrannical way of neutering football tribalism as an escape valve from the approved Narrative.

    Occupation of afl management by leftist orcs, and media reporting and commenting upon afl being given the approved socialist talking points are all aimed at crushing the dissenting footy fans that would punch progressive protestors.

    Not long now until vikpol burst through the door of footy fans in pre-dawn raids, to arrest those identified on chicom secret police cameras as calling footy protestors:

    “Bald headed flogs”.

  35. DrBeauGan

    A large part of that destruction came in the form of eviction of white farmers from their productive lands, to be replaced with blacks who couldn’t get the same results. This was praised by some as rectifying the colonial hell. South Africa appears to be repeating that disastrous pattern.

    The only question is, why has it taken so long? My prediction was for South Africa to collapse in ten years after democracy came in. It’s taking much longer. I think that Mandela deserves some of the credit for it, he was smart enough to know that they needed the whites to keep the economy running. Most of his successors don’t understand that and don’t realise the extent of their own ignorance. So it will go the usual way of African states. Ruined by a fatal combination of tribalism, power hunger, stupidity and ignorance.

  36. John Constantine

    https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/police-drones-to-monitor-crowds-at-footy-public-events-from-next-month-20190709-p525jf.html

    This particularly applied to situations like AFL matches, he said. “If they’ve got a cause for concern, if they had prior knowledge that some person meant to cause harm or a brawl started you could easily launch [drones] in a matter of seconds.

    “But the idea you need to be monitoring all over the place, checking if a person is shouting at umpires as we saw with the Behavioural Awareness Officers, is patently a step too far.”

    In September The Age revealed that drones were on Victoria Police’s wish list for 2019 in the hope they could hover over crowds at major events such as football finals and festivals.

    At the time the force’s counter terrorism boss Ross Guenther said police had to pursue world-leading methods and technology with the threat of a terrorist attack ever present.

    Big australia has made us such a wealthy nation that we can afford to mass import military age males from the worlds poorest countries to act as Behavioural Awareness Officers at football games, under instruction from vikpol wymynsys drone operators.

    It will no longer be permitted to have organised tribalised sport function for the proles as a relief valve from the eternal crushing power of the State.

    Only State constructed political rallies posing as sport, like their wymynsys vegynsys godless commo football, are Approved.

    Comrades.

  37. Eyrie

    Mater, having just read the NZ Herald this morning I can assure you that the Overton window here is very firmly to the far left collectivist area. Nice country, although the weather and climate suck, full of two legged sheep and suffering from far too much Government like Australia only worse.

  38. bespoke

    Don’t be an idiot Trump!

  39. Mak Siccar

    A must read from Delingpole.

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/09/06/boris-has-drained-the-swamp-saved-the-conservatives/

    A tantalising extract follows:

    I think it’s time, don’t you, that I wheeled out my favourite analogy? One day, I hope, it will enter the lexicon as it thoroughly deserves. I refer, of course, to my “Dog Shit Yoghurt Fallacy.”

    The Dog Shit Yoghurt Fallacy is essentially what the “broad church” school of (alleged) conservatism is forever advocating.

    The fallacy goes like this: some people like fruit in their yoghurt; others prefer to add dog poo. Therefore in the name of moderation, compromise, gaining the vital centre ground – or whatever other rubbish justification you want to come up with – it’s only fair that to keep all sides of the argument happy, we add a bit of both to the yoghurt: fruit for those who like fruit, dog shit for those who prefer dog shit.

    If you’re the kind of person, like me, who prefers fruit in his yoghurt you’ll quickly be able to spot the problem here.

    But you’d be amazed by how many people there are out there, even educated people – no, especially educated people – who just don’t get it.

    They say: “Ah but we’ve always been a broad church. We don’t want to end up being dominated by the fringe of right wing ideologues.”
    By “right wing ideologues” what they mean is people who believe in basic conservative principles: limited government, personal responsibility, free markets, lower taxes, liberty, property rights, national sovereignty, strong defence.

  40. calli

    BBC can’t decide whether Mugabe was a heroic leader of his country out of the hell of colonialism or a bloodthirsty tyrant who overstayed for 37 years.

    Journo-children have trouble with the notion that idealism can turn bad.

    If they were to accept this sad fact of history, they might have to reflect on how current idealistic urging could take its inevitable turn to misery. Ruinables, dietry faddism and re-wilding come to mind amongst a plethora of others.

  41. bespoke

    I think that Mandela deserves some of the credit for it, he was smart enough to know that they needed the whites to keep the economy running.

    Also he could had said kill them all and didn’t. 30 years solitary changes people. African’s don’t need a white or black saviour they need to do it them selves.

  42. calli

    Good reading, Mak. If it wasn’t for the labels, he could be talking about Oz.

    The result of the Conservatives having abandoned conservatism is the unintentional creation of a philosophical void. It has meant that the Conservatives, upon taking office, have found themselves unable to forge political direction for the country. Indeed, David Cameron almost prided himself upon this by describing himself as ‘pragmatic’ – in other words he blew with whatever wind direction was prevailing at the time. Into this void has stepped the Civil Service, which instead of being politically neutral as it always used to be, is now heavily politicised towards the Left. In addition, the rest of the élites which oversee so much of our public life have ensured that the Westminster Conservative Party have been softened up socially and culturally over dinner party tables. The Civil Service has thus successfully guided the Conservative government into territory that is now firmly occupied by the Leftist Clerisy.

    Is Boris the man for the job? Or is the rot too firmly entrenched.

  43. calli

    African’s don’t need a white or black saviour

    Enter China, stage left.

  44. Mater

    Nice country, although the weather and climate suck, full of two legged sheep and suffering from far too much Government like Australia only worse.

    For a country that has always been prone to Gaia worship, I guess the Global Warming Climate Change strategy was always going to have an exponential impact on them.

    Sad. Good soldiers – thieving pricks – but good soldiers.

  45. John Constantine

    What their fraser sponsored mugabe did to Zimbabwe’s agriculture, australias howard sponsored turnbullites did to our agriculture.

    The turnbull hubris at being the smartest man in the room led to him grasping a legal loophole to beat the Australian Constitution, using a worthless signed transnational convention on the rights of waterfowl to bring about the deindustrialisation and rewilding of the Murray Darling Basin.

    The 1985 Ramsar Convention listing of these sites had everything to do with the SA Government covering up their culpability in the severe environmental damage they have inflicted , they did this by now saying that the Lower Lakes were fresh water systems and that the Coorong received its water from the Murray Darling Basin. The 2007 Water Act then locked these degraded environmental assets in place by saying we must abide by international agreements yet the only body capable of changing these fraudulent character descriptions under the Ramsar Convention is the SA Government . The Water Act of 2007 was based on a fraud that started in 1985 made far worse by the start of the upper South East Drainage system in the 1990s and only completed in 2011 , the Coorong by this stage was approaching 6 to 10 times the salinity of ocean water and the Murray Darling System was blamed for this stupidity . Maintaining these highly degraded environmental assets with artificial excessive and continual flows now has stripped annually at least 3,000 gigalitres of productive water from the communities of the Murray Darling Basin . The current Murray Darling Basin Plan is a social , economic and environmental disaster

    Comrades.

  46. miltonf

    Hate to say it but it seems Howard left Australia in a worse state than he found it. The more you find out about what went down 1996-2007, the worse it gets.

  47. miltonf

    I’m thinking Vanstone, Trumbul, Downer, Kemp- to name a but a few.

  48. zyconoclast

    Republican maleficence

    Senators Marco Rubio (R-FL) and Rick Scott (R-FL) are asking President Trump to give refuge in the United States to Bahamians hit by Hurricane Dorian.

    In a letter sent to Trump, Rubio and Scott requested that the federal government “waive, or otherwise suspend, certain visa requirements for affected citizens of the Commonwealth of the Bahamas who have relatives in the United States with whom they can reside as they begin the process of rebuilding their lives and their country.”

  49. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Up early to check on any further storm damage. Youse will all have missed my post-midnight lamenting and relief that Hairy and I together had once more mustered carpentry skills and conquered the raging elements on our plastic-covered window frame. It was such a relief to be able to tell the empty interwebs all about it.

    Didn’t even twig it was Friday nite with a nu fred at the witching hour. 🙂

  50. Mater

    BBC can’t decide whether Mugabe was a heroic leader of his country out of the hell of colonialism or a bloodthirsty tyrant who overstayed for 37 years.

    It’s easy to rationalise things away. After all:

    “There’s squalor, but it’s cheerful (sic) scholar”

  51. John Constantine

    Police in China use facial recognition to pluck persons of interest from concert crowds, and have even used wearable Google Glass-style devices that allow a cop to scan the face of anyone they’re looking at. The technology is part of the intense security apparatus assembled to watch over China’s northwest Xinjiang region, where an estimated 1 million Uighurs have been swept into internment camps. The New York Times reported in April that Megvii, SenseTime, and CloudWalk had helped create surveillance software that looks for Uighur faces.

  52. notafan

    How can you rebuild your country if you aren’t in it?

    Grand Bahamas appears to be an African country.

    Were those deserted islands before colonisation?

    I know slavery etc.

    I hope the death toll isn’t as high as being claimed.

    What is the point of predicting the weather if people don’t get out of harm’s way?

  53. John Constantine

    also beginning to find success outside China. Yitu provides facial recognition to police in Malaysia, and CloudWalk won a contract to build a national facial-recognition system for Zimbabwe through China’s Belt and Road program of international infrastructure deals.

    The Tyrant of Zimbabwe uses OBOR to get chicom secret police dissenter identifying spyware.

    The Hunchtyrant of yarragrad, tumescent with totalitarianism, leaps at the OBOR offer of loans for dissent crushing Skynet.

    Their vikpol deploying chicom secret police Skynet against dissent for the glory of victorias craven Tyrant.

    https://www.wired.com/story/behind-rise-chinas-facial-recognition-giants/

    I have always loved Big Brother.

  54. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    That set of clips was hilarious, Bespoke. Particularly loved the first one, demented old waiter with the methylated spirits. So yep, Catallaxy Files, where everyone loves a joke and no-one is ever going to get sued by some humorless woke bastard.

  55. notafan

    You’d expect subjective moralists not to know what Mugabe was.

    Being binary is bad, very, very bad.
    Just ask the kool cids.

  56. mh

    The MSM don’t want to condemn Robert Gabriel Mugabe. Not even this?

    [In 2013], amidst attacks against lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) people, Mugabe cemented his long history of anti-LGBT rhetoric and actions by reiterating his 1995 statement that LGBT people were “worse than dogs and pigs” and threatened to behead them.

    MSM wants to support Mugabe because he was anti white and a Marxist. C’mon guys, you can’t condemn this?

    When Zimbabwe first gained independence in 1980 it had a flourishing gay scene in urban areas. Then Robert Mugabe took power, and after nearly four decades of demonizing and persecuting the LGBT+ community, the country now has one of the worst LGBT+ rights records on the African continent.

    LGBT+ Zimbabweans have absolutely no legal protections from discrimination, violence and harassment. Homosexuality is punishable by up to 14 years in prison, and gay men and women have faced extortion, arrest, and physical torture under Mugabe’s rule.

  57. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    By “right wing ideologues” what they mean is people who believe in basic conservative principles: limited government, personal responsibility, free markets, lower taxes, liberty, property rights, national sovereignty, strong defence.

    Jacob Rees Mogg and John Adams got nowhere in the Tories and Liberal Party.

    We can only hope that the parties die and something better replaces them.

    I also think it is more to do with unprincipled people who want power swelling the ranks, rather than having a broad church.

  58. Empire 5:5

    Fisk gold from last night:

    Fisky
    #3149232, posted on September 6, 2019 at 8:41 pm
    Imagine being an unhinged childless SJW. You have nothing to live for except the fumes of your hatred towards Normals. The existence of countries like Hungary and Poland must inspire the most murderous rage in your heart.

    Boris now has HM, EU, Labour and Remainers, in check. He has a bill to ignore to trigger prorogue (10 Sep), the minority govt he requires to play the VoNC>GE card and a clock that precludes a GE before Halloween.

    The next four days determine the outcome of Europe.

  59. calli

    Guys, guys, guys.

    You know how Mugabe’s excesses will be excused.

    Your word for this week is “mistakes”.

  60. Rockdoctor

    I see Bromberg was channeling Dennis Denuto again yesterday. Surely Dutton could just have an urgent application to the High Court on the grounds that a deportation order based on the higher courts determination is extant & this injunction should be cast aside. About time someone started testing Brombergs judgements. Moves should have been made to remove this bloke or at very least put him into some backwater court where he can’t do any damage after Bolt and the Toyota judgements.

    Also notice the Herald Sun getting with the times & studiously avoiding referring to climate change in relation to a “swarming protest” last night. FFS how stupid do you think we are.

    Gleeson on Credlin last night reckons Trad is finished. Said she has paid a price, absolute rubbish Gleso. She has got away scott free & will be back after a brief sojourn. Worse still the MSM is moving on, the same MSM that has hounded LNP members for much less. Apparently Kate Jones is next cab off the rank, if that is true God help us. Dim doesn’t even begin to describe her ability.

  61. notafan

    Zimbabwe is so bad locals take their chances in South Africa where they also risk being beaten up and killed.

    Real racism you aren’t allowed to mention in ‘polite’ society.

  62. Bruce of Newcastle

    Climate Progress was a hysterically alarmist climate site that guys like Al Gore cited all the time.
    No one else much read it so it went bust, sacked the staff and was wrapped into Think Progress.
    Think Progress was a hysterically leftist site that all the Dems loved…you can guess the rest.

    ThinkProgress Website Shuts Down After Failing To Find Buyer

    Left-wing website ThinkProgress is shutting down after failing to find a buyer, according to the Daily Beast.

    Launched by the John Podesta-founded Center for American Progress (CAP) which had been hemorrhaging cash to keep the site afloat, ThinkProgress came under severe financial strain after Hillary Clinton lost the 2016 US election – and not one liberal billionaire was willing to step in with what would be relative pocket change to keep it afloat.

    ROFLMAO and eating popcorn at the same time is not good for my health but is so satisfying.

  63. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    WHITE COUNCIL TELLS ABORIGINAL WOMAN TO GET PERMISSION TO SPEAK
    Andrew Bolt, Herald Sun
    September 6, 2019 8:47am
    Subscriber only

    The brilliant Jacinta Price – daughter of an Aboriginal woman – is on a successful speaking tour, telling audiences how to fight Aboriginal disadvantage.

    She hired a hall from the Coffs Harbour City Council but got this extraordinary request: that, before she speaks, she get “permission from the Gumbayngirr Aboriginal people to enter the land”.

    How many other visitors to Coffs Harbour, known for its tourism and its university, are told to first ask the local Aboriginal people for permission to come?

    I suggest that Price is being singled out, and that the council is in effect asking some (unelected) Aboriginal representatives to decide whether Price may speak.

    I asked Price last night whether she would ask for that permission. Absolutely no way, she said. Nor is she going to have the Welcome to Country that the council insists on.

    You couldn’t make this shit up, seriously, could you?

  64. zyconoclast

    Zao’s Deepfake Face-swapping App Shows Uploading Your Photos is Riskier Than Ever

    The latest photo app craze can make you look like a movie star. Zao uses artificial intelligence to replace the faces of characters in film or TV clips with images of anyone whose photo you upload to the app.

    The effect is startlingly realistic and shows just how far this sort of “deepfake” technology has come. But it also highlights how great the risks have become of making your photos available online where anyone can use or abuse them – and the limitation of the law in dealing with this issue.

  65. miltonf

    I stopped taking the BBC seriously after a silly ‘documentary’ about the Y2K bug.

  66. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Hungary looks appealing.

    A modest cottage, renovated, near a national park on a decent sized block of land.

    https://www.casa-mia.at/en/ungarn-immobilien.phtml?property=3029

    You are very unlikely to get anything like this in Australia for a similar price (roughly, 130k AUD).

  67. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    She hired a hall from the Coffs Harbour City Council but got this extraordinary request: that, before she speaks, she get “permission from the Gumbayngirr Aboriginal people to enter the land”.

    Fucking preposterous.

    If the council were not virtue signalling hypocrites, they’d hand over all of their assets to the Gumbayngirr right now.

  68. Bruce of Newcastle

    Senators Marco Rubio (R-FL) and Rick Scott (R-FL) are asking President Trump to give refuge in the United States to Bahamians hit by Hurricane Dorian.

    The perfect answer would be for Trump to offer to buy the Bahamas.
    Then the Bahamans as US citizens could move to the mainland and vice versa.
    Lefty heads would look like a Cat 5 hurricane had gone through their ears and out the other side.

  69. notafan

    Who’d buy into a high rise now?

    I looked at one Abbotsford dog box with my daughter.

    Just awful with body corporate fees over $5000 per annum.

    Very glad she ended up buying a daggy 70s house in the burbs instead.

    The new sky line in Box Hill is depressing, looms over neighbouring suburbs like alien monsters.

    When did we agree to this?

  70. zyconoclast

    Do Unmarried Women Face Shortages of Partners in the U.S. Marriage Market?

    One explanation for declines in marriage is a shortage of economically-attractive men for unmarried women to marry. Indeed, a new study published in the Journal of Marriage and Family reveals a significant scarcity of such potential male spouses.

    The study’s authors developed estimates of the sociodemographic characteristics of unmarried women’s potential spouses who resemble the husbands of otherwise comparable married women. These estimates were compared with the actual distribution of unmarried men at the national, state, and local levels.

    Women’s potential husbands had an average income that was about 58% higher than the actual unmarried men currently available to unmarried women. They also were 30% more likely to be employed and 19% more likely to have a college degree.

    The researchers found that racial and ethnic minorities, especially black women, face serious shortages of potential marital partners, as do unmarried women with either low or high socioeconomic status.

    “Most American women hope to marry but current shortages of marriageable men—men with a stable job and a good income—make this increasingly difficult, especially in the current gig economy of unstable low-paying service jobs,” said lead author Daniel T. Lichter, PhD, of Cornell University. “Marriage is still based on love, but it also is fundamentally an economic transaction. Many young men today have little to bring to the marriage bargain, especially as young women’s educational levels on average now exceed their male suitors.”

  71. 1735099

    The media loathe him and will do whatever it can to damage him

    The media simply report him.
    He’s damaged himself.
    He’s nowhere as bright as (he) advertised, with a distorted sense of his own relevance, and a ruthless streak that means he’s OK with crash tackling children for publicity, amongst other stunts.

    Sometimes, just sometimes, the mask slips. Like the time he told a taxi triver to “fuck off and die – and not in that order.” Like the time he all but congratulated a private school audience for miraculously being part of the 2 percent of “our species” with IQs over 130. Like that time last year, during a junket to Japan, when he played a friendly game of rugby against some ten-year-old schoolchildren, and ended up brutally tackling one of them to the ground. Actually, tackling is the wrong word; he just barrelled into the kid, tossing him to the side with one gigantic heave of his Mayoral shoulder. Only Boris Johnson really knows why that happened, but we can make an educated guess: chilly winds blowing through his head across from ancient Eton, the fangs and frost of a November rugger pitch, the ball in his hands, the brutes across the field, the time when his lizard brain learned that there was nothing in the world more important than winning, no matter how many small children you have to injure along the way. In the decades since, his cold lust for power might have abstracted itself a little, but that small square of Astroturf and its beckoning red box brought it all back to the beginning. The monster inside took over. It’s a miracle the child wasn’t killed.

  72. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    The monster inside took over. It’s a miracle the child wasn’t killed.

    That’s a little unhinged, even for a yellow journalism rag like Vice, or an untreated mental patient such as yourself, Liability Gomer.

  73. feelthebern

    Well done Pam Anderson.

    https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1170014219280027653/video/1

    In a just world, Meghan McCain would be paying for her fathers Washington War Machine sins.

  74. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    I never thought I’d see The View described as a “Public Affairs Program (sic)”, let alone a surreal one at that.

  75. miltonf

    It’s hard to work out which is the most obnoxious demorat candidate.

  76. feelthebern

    Meghan McCain is turning into a land whale.
    Zero accomplishments.
    Got her start due to her mother being covered by one of Washingtons biggest cronies & sooks.

  77. feelthebern

    Yang.
    Tulsi.
    Hippy Lady.
    None of them have a chance, but I wouldn’t call any of them obnoxious.

    I think the worst is Harris.
    She really is cut from the Hillary, elitist, Washington War Machine cloth.

  78. notafan

    And there I was thinking the peace and quiet was because the petrol head had driven to Melbourne to join extinction rebellion.

    Or it was in deep mourning for beloved leader, freeer of slaves, and designer of the greatest economic miracle ever seen in the whole wide world Mugabe.

    But no.

    It was seagulling for the article that best matched it’s nasty vindictive hatey hate mind.

  79. John Constantine

    Police are suggesting you get out of the city “as quickly as you can” before the protest.

    Flee.

    Cower.

    Beg.

    Their vikpol protected paramilitaries take over the streets of yarragrad.

    Dissent by laying a hand on a jannissary and the full power of the State crushes you.

    https://concreteplayground.com/melbourne/travel-leisure/extinction-rebellion-melbourne?fbclid=IwAR2I_mfWssLVPEk3VyZ8zvIYn9rgeqOWABCmGh85wMazUCh48nGDzjqUO90


    Victoria Police have also taken to Facebook to alert Melburnians to the planned protest and the potential disruptions — which, on a rainy Friday at peak hour during AFL finals season, could be huge. “We’re aware that there’s protest activity planned for the CBD of Melbourne tonight,” said North West Metro Commander Tim Hansen in a video posted to the page. “We think it’s really important that […] you make plans to get out of the city as quickly as you can before this time so you’re not caught up in the disruption.”

  80. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    “We think it’s really important that […] you make plans to get out of the city as quickly as you can before this time so you’re not caught up in the disruption.”

    What if one was to merely walk meekly and act in self defence with restraint as necessary.

    Film the cops.

    Film Antifa.

    They’re on the same side.

    If we had a plebiscite, their masters would ignore it.

  81. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    I think the worst is Harris.
    She really is cut from the Hillary, elitist, Washington War Machine cloth.

    I agree, I thought they would have paired her with Maggie Hassan (as the VP candidate) as an anti-Trump foil. Harris in terms of her background is the anti-Pence foil.

    I think she will get the nomination. Everyone says how lefty Pochahantas is, but Harris has a platform of debt jubilees as well. People with 200k of College debt who cannot get a job beyond odd jobs will vote for this.

    What we must understand is how many hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of Democrat voters have been screwed by the US college system.

  82. mh

    Trump @ $2.00

    Is it time to bet?

  83. bespoke

    Frank Walker from National Tiles
    #3149472, posted on September 7, 2019 at 8:24 am
    What we must understand is how many hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of Democrat voters have been screwed by the US college system.

    They are still short on blue collar workers but dumb status and credentialism like hear forces companies to look out side the country.

  84. Rockdoctor

    Honestly WTF:

    https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2019/09/aussie_greens_leader_says_isis_fighters_are_good_people.html

    Not one breath of it in the Aussie media I can find, only UK media & an NZ blog. News.com has vacuous pieces on Markle and the likes, ABC doing it’s usual chicken little about climate.

  85. Some History

    It is not only a good day, it is a great day. Mugabe has gone to join his enabler Malcolm Fraser, burning in hell.
    Remember that in 2017 the UN agency, the World Health Organization, made Mugabe a “goodwill ambassador” [later retracting the appointment due to backlash].

    Robert Mugabe made ‘goodwill ambassador’ by World Health Organisation

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10/21/robert-mugabe-made-goodwill-ambassador-world-health-organisation/

  86. Mater

    Bob,
    Some more historical assessments of Fascism. This time from a hard core socialist intellectual. Hardly recent.

    [Of Mussolini]: “Are you not delighted to find at last a Socialist who speaks and thinks as responsible rulers do and not as resentful slaves do?”

    – Bernard Shaw, October 1927

    “Some of the things Mussolini has done, and some of the things he is threatening to do go further in the direction of Socialism than the English Labour Party could yet venture if they were in power…They will bring him presently into serious conflict with Capitalism; and it is certainly not my business or that of any Socialist to weaken him in view of such a conflict”

    – Bernard Shaw, A letter to a friend, 7 Feb 1927

    [Mussolini is] “farther to the Left in his political opinions than any of his socialist rivals.”

    – Bernard Shaw, The Manchester Guardian, 1927

  87. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘the groundswell from Collingwoods toothless brawling herds was that protesters that tried to bar the way into the game would be smashed to a pulp’

    Never, ever in my life have I been prouder to be a Collingwood member.

    Also, proof indeed that somewhere inside the delicate Antifa screambats’ tiny minds there is a remnant of self-preservation.

  88. Snoopy

    President #HeelsUp Harris?

  89. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Is it time to bet?

    It was time to bet the moment the magnificent bastard walked out to the Stones’ You Can’t Always Get What You Want.

    The God Emperor’s Magnificence.

  90. mh

    Harris survived Hurricane Willie.

    She rode out the storm.

  91. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘The political rallies posing as wymynsys football’

    Gold. Rolled gold.

    We are one step away from being compelled to attend cricket matches for the blind, where they go on the sound of the little bell inside the pill, and declare it equal in stature to the Olympics or the Boxing Day Test.

  92. Bruce of Newcastle

    President #HeelsUp Harris?

    What is all this white stuff everywhere?

    Kamala Harris Questions Why the U.S. Needs More Icebreakers in the Arctic (5 Sep)

    Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA) seemed lost for an answer during the CNN climate town hall when questioned about whether the U.S. should have more icebreakers in the Arctic amid a growing Russian presence.

    When asked if she would grow the U.S. Coast Guard’s icebreaker fleet to match Russia’s, she questioned the purpose of having icebreakers in the Arctic.

    “It depends on what the purpose of those icebreakers is. What is the purpose? What are we saying is a legitimate purpose there?” she said when pressed for a second time.

  93. Knuckle Dragger

    From Rockdoctor’s link:

    ‘Greens leader Richard Di Natale wants ISIS fighters to be allowed back into Australia and described terrorists who had travelled to the Middle East as ‘good people’ who had been brainwashed.’

    This should be rammed right down the throat – with or without sock – of every actual or potential Greens voter in the country. It should also be painted on the walls of every Green recruiting factory – ie, schools.

    These mongs are not about saving koalas or finches. They are not about trees, or dugongs frolicking in the surf cheered on by pods of acrobatic dolphins. They couldn’t give a rat’s arse about the climate and/or sea levels. They are not a benign, eco-friendly organisation.

    Control and power. That’s it. Obviously, enriching themselves in the process.

    Nobody ever asks the traitorous Di Natale why his mummy and daddy both fought for Mussolini during WW2, and what effect their politics had on him.

    Why not?

  94. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    We are one step away from being compelled to attend cricket matches for the blind, where they go on the sound of the little bell inside the pill, and declare it equal in stature to the Olympics or the Boxing Day Test.

    It will be the catalyst for a Tellesprung like story, starring Mike Nolan.

    “How Uncle Nolesy shot the spliff off from Quinton Mackeral’s face”

    “You fucken drug addict”

    “Fuck off I did not”

  95. Geriatric Mayfly

    Out gooned. Peter Tatchells’ failed attempt at a citizen’s arrest of Mugabe as the old simian was being driven to Harrod’s, is one highlight of his reign I recall. Another was relayed by Nadine Gordimer (I think.) On a State visit to Britain, the peoples’ President wanted a closed vehicle for the ceremonial drive to Buck House. HM thought otherwise. The sight of the ‘white’ knuckled, shrinking Dictator was something to behold. His distrust in his own people was even more blatant. A primary source told me of one of his visits to Victoria Falls. A multi car convoy of Mercedes left the airport for the relatively short journey. It stopped several times so that the master of Marxist miracles could change vehicles. What’s left of him is not even fit for vultures.

  96. cohenite

    For those who are interested; some of the things happening while you sleep:

    https://www.sei.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/connections-between-the-paris-agreement-and-the-2030-agenda.pdf
    Connections between the Paris Agreement and the 2030 Agenda

    http://apceiu.org/board/bbs/board.php?bo_table=m31&wr_id=672
    “Global Citizenship Education (GCED) as a key enabler of Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs),

    https://sustainabledevelopment.un.org/content/documents/23669BN_SDG4.pdf

    Review of SDG implementation and interrelations among goals Discussion on SDG 4 – Quality education Tuesday, 9 July 2019, 3:00 PM–6:00 PM, Conference Room 4

    https://www.un.org/development/desa/en/news/statistics/2018-world-data-forum-wraps-up.html
    World Data Forum wraps up with a declaration to boost financing for data and statistics (wtf).

  97. notafan

    There is no such thing as bad people.

    Obviously.

  98. bespoke

    ‘Greens leader Richard Di Natale wants ISIS fighters to be allowed back into Australia and described terrorists who had travelled to the Middle East as ‘good people’ who had been brainwashed.’

    I know a guy in Toowoomba that will take them in.

  99. Empire 5:5

    The perfect answer would be for Trump to offer to buy the Bahamas.
    Then the Bahamans as US citizens could move to the mainland and vice versa.
    Lefty heads would look like a Cat 5 hurricane had gone through their ears and out the other side.

    USMIL needs to assess the damage to the PRC deepwater ports (aka as sub bases) before a fair valuation can be made. There is also the question of nuclear contamination.

  100. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    “Marriage is still based on love, but it also is fundamentally an economic transaction. Many young men today have little to bring to the marriage bargain, especially as young women’s educational levels on average now exceed their male suitors.”

    Wrong. Love is far more important than the economic transactional side of it. Young men have all their energy, strength and hopes to bring to a marriage. Most of them have a lot of love to give. Children come along, and sensible people with a little foresight and sharing of possibilities can care for them on very little money. A woman who is too blind to see this in today’s world, where as ever nothing is easy, will miss out on much by applying her ‘severely educated’ over-hyped feminist tunnel vision. By refusing to see people, including the men she meets, for the inherent good that is within them, thinking in sociological categories rather than applying human feelings, such a woman will likely miss out on marriage.

    With so many urban men gay, and with demography against you, and with more men becoming scared off marriage due to what the Family Court can do, reality should start to come home. Finding the human core of things is what counts, engaging in trust. Of course marriages can go sour, and of course keeping a marriage together can be an effort, and of course some people can lead a happy and productive single life. But hope springs eternal … not a bad little maxim, that one.

  101. Farmer Gez

    Knuckle Dragger
    #3149481, posted on September 7, 2019 at 8:37 am
    ‘the groundswell from Collingwoods toothless brawling herds was that protesters that tried to bar the way into the game would be smashed to a pulp’

    Never, ever in my life have I been prouder to be a Collingwood member.

    Also, proof indeed that somewhere inside the delicate Antifa screambats’ tiny minds there is a remnant of self-preservation.

    Not to mention the fact that Geelong is the Ranga capital of Australia.
    No not get into fights with redheads.

  102. cohenite

    Nobody ever asks the traitorous Di Natale why his mummy and daddy both fought for Mussolini during WW2, and what effect their politics had on him.

    Is that right? The most punchable bastard in parliament is a Nazi who supports isis?

  103. Empire 5:5

    Is Boris the man for the job? Or is the rot too firmly entrenched

    In the past he was screwed by shaper sinister types. This time he got a deal with the right people. Boris is days away from being the Briton who broke Brussels.

  104. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    “Marriage is still based on love, but it also is fundamentally an economic transaction. Many young men today have little to bring to the marriage bargain, especially as young women’s educational levels on average now exceed their male suitors.”

    This is delusional on so many levels.

    A Ph D in macrame is useless, a B Eng is not.

  105. Mater

    Nobody ever asks the traitorous Di Natale why his mummy and daddy both fought for Mussolini during WW2, and what effect their politics had on him.

    This Mussolini?
    It does sound vaguely familiar.

    We want an extraordinary heavy taxation, with a progressive character, on capital, that will represent an authentic partial expropriation of all wealth; seizures of all assets of religious congregations and suppression of all the ecclesiastic Episcopal revenues, in what constitutes an enormous deficit of the nation and a privilege for a minority; revisions of all contracts made by the war ministers and seizure of 85% of all war profits.

    Mussolini, Fasci Italiani di Combattimento (Italian Combat Fasci), Il Popolo d’Italia newspaper, June 6, 1919. Speech published in Revolutionary Fascism, by Erik Norling, Lisbon, Finis Mundi Press (2011) p. 92.

  106. bespoke

    I think it’s natural seek out an economic secure partner. No different to the best hunter in the tribe having the pick of the girls.

  107. Knuckle Dragger

    Well, you say that, Lizzie.

    Chicks of today, having reached the tender age of 35 and maybe having gone through the marriage mincer once, look for blokes with a stable job and a good income. That is, a guaranteed golden goose courtesy of DHS and support payments.

    This is why blokes everywhere marvel at why the hottest women you’ve seen all year are clinging to the arms of the ugliest cockheads* in the land. Because they have cash, and the ladeeees concerned regard having to undergo the odd roll in the hay with them as the price of doing business.

    This may seem unreasonable to Kittehs who have been married for a long time, or hooked up at least, but I know this because they tell me. After they’ve worked out I would rather not give half my remaining stuff to them on the basis of their say-so. I’ve had a couple of near misses in the last few years, but the mask slipped just in time.

    I know quite a few blokes that have enmeshed themselves in 35+ marriage because they think it’s expected of them, or because they think they’re somehow missing out on something. And I watch them slink through life like whipped dogs. When out of their own house they have their phones welded to their hands, waiting for the ‘when are you coming home not because there’s anything on but why are you our without me’ call.

    No thanks.

    That said, I’m very pro-ladeee. I like their company, and you can have (oh God) better conversations with them than you can with blokes in many respects. I still hold out hope for that ‘boom’ moment, but I’m realistic enough to expect the odds are the same as a Powerball** win.

    *I’m not the most attractive man in Australia myself. I reckon I’m about fourth.
    **#fuckyouhotdogs
    #100mill

  108. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Sure bespoke, but now that “alpha male” is called “Centrelink” or the “Child Support Agency”.

  109. Knuckle Dragger

    *out without me*

  110. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Finding the human core of things is what counts, engaging in trust.

    I am not just spouting opinion on this. I have seen it work for a number of young women in my ambit, some who were students of mine and others whom I know more closely, in my wider familial network. If two people of good intelligence are attracted, and have goodwill, then the so-called social differences just don’t count. Given the uncertain nature of employment these days anyway, some of the semi-employed tradies married to professional women have turned out to be far less the Mr. Mum at home than their wives expected, as they are in demand while white-collar jobs are contracting.

  111. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Not to mention the fact that Geelong is the Ranga capital of Australia.
    No not get into fights with redheads.’

    Couple of mates of mine in the constabulary reckon that’s one of the great truisms of our time, Gez.

    They say the rangas will not stop, no matter what you do to them. They are apparently impervious to OC spray and Tasers, no doubt due to having no soul. They say avoid punching on with them at all costs because it’s like fighting a giant male ocelot in mating season, and you have to pretty much knock them the fuck out because they keep getting up like Cool Hand Luke.

  112. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Given the uncertain nature of employment these days anyway, some of the semi-employed tradies married to professional women have turned out to be far less the Mr. Mum at home than their wives expected, as they are in demand while white-collar jobs are contracting.

    I have never seen a female doctor marry anyone else other than another doctor, or an academic.

  113. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘turned out to be far less the Mr. Mum at home than their wives expected’

    ie, a desire to retain all his friends instead of having them slowly pushed into obscurity while suffering the joys of putting up with his new ladee’s BFFs trilling over Australia’s Got Talent while an unwatched Smith makes another double ton.

  114. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘With so many urban men gay’

    *With so many urban men FASHIONABLY gay*

  115. Farmer Gez

    In a remarkable feat of omission the Age editorial on Thursday managed to discuss the potential power failures in Vic this coming summer without once mentioning ruinables and their role in network instability.

    The old coal generators were given the blame for potential outages caused by breakdowns.
    How exactly can you blame a government for not keeping the lights on and at the same time ignore the same government policies that got you there?
    Gifted bullshit artists to be sure.

  116. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    No different to the best hunter in the tribe having the pick of the girls.

    During our recent trip to Kenya and Tanzania we went to a Masai village, totally traditional in many of their ways still, and watched the young Masai men doing their special dancing. It involved lots of major vertical leaps up and down, in a bobbing sort of motion. The admiring young girls told us they always went for the highest jumper, regardless of his other attributes.

    What evolutionary biologists call runaway sexual selection may be at work here. Perhaps that is why the Masai are all so tall. 🙂

    In our society we have let economics dominate rather than high jumping. Both are equally stupid as a basis for selecting a companionable life partner. Time to get back to basics and bring back mutual attraction on a range of indices and ensuing friendship as the force we know it to be. KD, there are many ways to happiness. Keep searching for the best one for you.

    I have a dear friend of 70, a recent widow who has been consoling herself with a young man of 24. Platonic so far, but she loves him dearly, and why not? He tells her she is so easy to love, for he is a youth who needs love badly, and she truly is a wise person, the most gentle and feminine of women with a very sweet smile, an ex-beauty queen too. They have no future together except friendship she says realistically, but this loving relationship has been extremely enriching for them both. I know that for a fact. For them both. She has widened his street kid’s horizons, taking him to movies and the theatre, and he has given her back her confidence in herself, the sense of being valued highly and well. There is tremendous respect in this friendship, on both sides. Others may mock it, but I don’t. It is definitely not pseudo mother-and-son. They will slowly drift apart, indeed he has some young girlfriends, but they will never forget each other.

  117. Roger

    “Murpharoo” at The Guardian thinks Labor may be on to a winner with Keneally taking on Dutton.

    Naturally, she’s a regular on The Couch & The Dumb.

  118. Arky

    Thanks Tom

    ..
    A cuck and a suckhole.

  119. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    See the silliness on Twitter, “Natalie Wynn”, a feminine-presenting “trans woman”, was booted off for insisting that “masculine-presenting trans women” aren’t a thing.

    Maybe if they let it slide, then they’d have to accept there are actually only two genders.

  120. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    ‘With so many urban men gay’
    *With so many urban men FASHIONABLY gay*

    Well corrected, KD.

  121. Dr Faustus

    Far from being a “revolutionary leader”, Mugabe spent most of the guerrilla war against Rhodesia on the run, in hiding, plotting against his ZANU/ZAPO colleagues – or ordering the murder of white farmers and their families.

    When he came to power, he stole relentlessly from Zimbabwe – and left a decent African country a cinder.

    Needless to say, his untimely death is mourned:

    China lauded him as an “outstanding national liberation movement leader” while Russian President Vladimir Putin noted Mugabe’s “great personal contribution” to Zimbabwe’s independence.

    Pretty much says it all.

  122. Arky

    That said, I’m very pro-ladeee. I like their company, and you can have (oh God) better conversations with them than you can with blokes in many respects.

    ..
    Confirmed: Homosexual.

  123. mh

    #MAGA

    Rebecca Makkai
    @rebeccamakkai
    Is anyone else made really uncomfortable these days by anyone wearing any kind of red baseball cap? Like, I see one and my heart does weird shit and then I finally realize it only says Titleist or whatever. Maybe don’t wear red caps anymore, normal people?
    12:01 PM · Sep 1, 2019·

  124. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Maybe Putin’s suckholery of Mugabe will red pill the fuck out of some alt righties here who love the Putin wang.

  125. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Is anyone else made really uncomfortable these days by anyone wearing any kind of red baseball cap? Like, I see one and my heart does weird shit and then I finally realize it only says Titleist or whatever. Maybe don’t wear red caps anymore, normal people?

    Well hey. I wear Green. Pepe just has to be the same colour of most of my favourite teams.

  126. johanna

    I have never seen a female doctor marry anyone else other than another doctor, or an academic.

    You need to get out more, dot.

    Young female doctor of my acquaintance is married to a bloke who is a semi-skilled worker – nice fellow, not as bright as her but not stupid either. As they have two under five kids, he is doing home duties because she can earn more. He’ll go back to work when the kids go to school.

    They’ve been together about five years and seem happy.

    I admit it’s not the norm, but they are not hippies or anything like that – they just fell in love, and are being practical. He’s no doormat, I assure you.

    But, most women are not high flyers who can earn a lot of money, so it makes sense to try to marry someone who can support a family.

  127. Cassie of Sydney

    “cohenite
    #3149499, posted on September 7, 2019 at 9:05 am
    Nobody ever asks the traitorous Di Natale why his mummy and daddy both fought for Mussolini during WW2, and what effect their politics had on him.

    Is that right? The most punchable bastard in parliament is a Nazi who supports isis?”

    This is very unsurprising….Greens’ ideology has deep roots in Nazi philosophy and German neo-paganism. That’s also where their Jooooo hatred comes from. The Greens love Jooo haters and Jooo killers….reminds me of a commentator here who also loves Joooo haters and Joooo killers.

  128. zyconoclast

    Is there where Apu has set up the first Kwi-e-mart franchise?

    India loses contact with spacecraft on mission to the moon

    (Reuters) – India lost contact with a spacecraft it was attempting to land on the moon on Saturday, the chairman of the Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) said, in a setback to the nation’s ambitious plans to become the first country to probe the unexplored lunar south pole.

  129. Arky

    It’s funny to hear all of life’s fucking losers spouting off about human nature.
    “Oh all they want is money”.
    Jesus. Grow up. Your failures are yours.

  130. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘KD, there are many ways to happiness. Keep searching for the best one for you.’

    Bloody hell, Lizzie.

    This is the exact thing I was banging on about. People seem to believe that because someone isn’t married they aren’t happy. There are probably some punters that fit that mould, but I ain’t one of them.

    I probably won’t search for something I already have.

    A fact little known amongst the female of the species is that the unattached male of the group is:
    1. Uninterested in being set up by any of his mates’ wives or GFs with their ‘amazing’ friend; and
    2. Envied by his peers, as much as they say they love their other half.

  131. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    1. Uninterested in being set up by any of his mates’ wives or GFs with their ‘amazing’ friend;

    I am the thot whisperer.

    ‘Amazing’ means morbidly obese.

  132. Nick

    India are free to do what they like, though you have to question a country that goes to the moon ahead of clean accessible water and sanitation.

  133. Cassie of Sydney

    “Roger
    #3149516, posted on September 7, 2019 at 9:44 am
    “Murpharoo” at The Guardian “

    Ah yes…..“Murpharoo”….one of that “Liberal” Turdbull’s favourites….what was that saying…“A man is known by the company he keeps”.

  134. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I heard the other day (from the daughter) another wise maxim from a sensible mother to her daughter, about men and a successful marriage.

    “Give them regular sex and a shed.”

    Not bad advice at all. Regular sex; obviously. And men do hate to be crowded in. They want their own space and their own time and their own friends and activities. No man wants to live on a leash and wise women respect that. No woman though wants to be ignored and unappreciated. Wise men know that well. 🙂

  135. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Your failures are yours.’

    Sure.

    If you count ‘success’ as the inability to build something over a period of years which was able to be run off an assembly line in two hours, 90 years ago.

  136. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘‘Amazing’ means morbidly obese.’

    Yup. Invariably. Because muh genes.

  137. calli

    Oh, and to complete the alliteration

    Steadfastness

  138. cohenite

    I have a dear friend of 70, a recent widow who has been consoling herself with a young man of 24.

    Nah, there’s a lot wrong with that. It doesn’t matter how much you jolly it up:

  139. ‘Not to mention the fact that Geelong is the Ranga capital of Australia.
    No not get into fights with redheads.’
    Couple of mates of mine in the constabulary reckon that’s one of the great truisms of our time, Gez.
    They say the rangas will not stop, no matter what you do to them. They are apparently impervious to OC spray and Tasers, no doubt due to having no soul. They say avoid punching on with them at all costs because it’s like fighting a giant male ocelot in mating season, and you have to pretty much knock them the fuck out because they keep getting up like Cool Hand Luke.

    KD. Wonthaggi (home of the desal) has more rangas.
    Rule 2. Don’t hit them the head. It only makes them cross.

  140. zyconoclast

    Yup. Invariably. Because muh genes.

    Jeans like
    this
    and
    this
    and
    this

  141. areff

    Silence every now and then does no harm either.

  142. bespoke

    KD

    Not for every one but what’s working for me is separate accounts. Friends and interest. It took time and work. “quality over quantity “.

  143. stackja

    Jackie Trad cleared by CCC, but conduct ‘should be outlawed’

    Jackie Trad will be the state’s acting premier after the corruption watchdog decided her failure to declare an investment property wasn’t a crime — but should be.
    Steven Wardill & Sarah Vogler, The Courier-Mail
    Subscriber only
    |
    September 7, 2019 12:00am

    JACKIE Trad will today take over as premier after being stripped of her Cross River Rail role and condemned by the state’s corruption watchdog over conflict-of-interest failures it recommended should become a crime.

    In an extraordinary statement, the Crime and Corruption Commission yesterday found the Treasurer’s repeated failure to declare her purchase of a Woolloongabba investment property near the $7 billion rail project was not a crime, but recommended that a new criminal offence be introduced for ministerial conflicts which are not declared.

    “In addition to creating a corruption risk, failing to properly declare and manage a conflict of interest undermines perceptions of the integrity of processes, and creates a lack of confidence in processes and the outcomes they lead to,” the CCC said.

    “And the very legitimacy of projects can be undermined.”

    The scandal was sparked after The Courier-Mail revealed on July 18 that Ms Trad had failed to declare a property she and her husband purchased near where the new Boggo Road Station will be built under Cross River Rail.

    The CCC indicated Ms Trad breached the ministerial code of conduct several times by failing to disclose her interest to Parliament and at key Cabinet meetings about the route for Cross River Rail.

    Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk announced Ms Trad would be stripped of her role on the project and responsibility handed to Tourism Minister Kate Jones while also revealing chief-of-staff David Barbagello had resigned after a separate integrity scandal related to a taxpayer-funded handout awarded to a company he co-owns.

    “I have told the Deputy Premier and Treasurer that she will no longer have responsibility for Cross River Rail,” she said.

    “Because she has breached the Ministerial Handbook she will not be having that responsibility.

  144. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    This is the exact thing I was banging on about. People seem to believe that because someone isn’t married they aren’t happy. There are probably some punters that fit that mould, but I ain’t one of them.

    Communication failure there between us, KD. I was referring to the best ‘way’ for you, not the best ‘one’ for you. If not being married suits, then go for that. If not, find a way that suits, whatever it turns out to be. If Hairy wasn’t around I’d think twice before commiting to marriage again. I’d likely avoid a nunnery but would stick strictly to your place or mine tonight? I doubt I’d ever go down the lezzo road though.

  145. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    ‘Amazing’ means morbidly obese.

    “Amazing” means morbidly obese, a massive chip on the shoulder where all men are concerned, and looking for a male who can support they and their children in the style to which they could become accustomed, while making no compromise whatsoever.

  146. stackja

    “I want to reassure Queenslanders that everyone on my team will absolutely redouble their efforts.”

    While admitting the scandal had damaged her Government’s reputation, Ms Palaszczuk revealed Ms Trad would act as premier when she flies out tonight to Switzerland and France on an Olympic Games fact-finding mission.

    “I think Queenslanders have been just as frustrated as I have, in all frankness,” she said.

    “It has been going on for weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks, and finally today there is a line in the sand.

    “I accept and draw that line in the sand.”

    She committed to introducing the CCC’s five recommendations, including making it a criminal offence when ministers fail to declare interests to Parliament and Cabinet.

    But the decision not to sack Ms Trad has left divisions within Labor, with one figure last night saying the Premier had “blown a perfect opportunity to stand for something”.

    Opposition Leader Deb Frecklington maintained Ms Trad should be sacked.

    “Jackie Trad has clearly breached the rules and the only job Jackie Trad deserves is to be a backbencher,” she said.

    Ms Trad said she was deeply disappointed in herself and accepted the punishment “meted out”.

    “I’m glad the CCC has found no evidence of dishonesty or corruption, but that doesn’t change the fact that I made a mistake,” she said.

    “The Premier has a right to expect the highest standards from all of her ministers and on this occasion I did not meet those standards.”

    Ms Trad also released the Integrity Commissioner advice she received on her conflict and promised to immediately sell the three-bedroom home at the centre of scandal.

    Integrity Commissioner Nikola Stepanov said Ms Trad had a conflict of interest because a “fair-minded person” would not believe she could be objective.

    “Given my view that you have a conflict of interest … I do not consider that it is desirable or appropriate that you participate in future Cabinet discussions or decisions that may materially affect the Boggo Road Station,” she wrote.

  147. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    “…mine made the mistake of going into wife mode before becoming my wife.”

    LOL!

  148. Empire 5:5

    Not bad advice at all. Regular sex; obviously. And men do hate to be crowded in. They want their own space and their own time and their own friends and activities. No man wants to live on a leash and wise women respect that. No woman though wants to be ignored and unappreciated. Wise men know that well. 🙂

    My old man was an electron engineer. In the 80s he installed an intercom.

    Manshed: HQ?
    HQ: Manshed – HQ.
    Manshed: Fetch us a cold stubby thanks luv.
    HQ: One cold stubby. It’s great to be appreciated!

    Now days the emasculated soyboys sms their femimaster an apologetic emoticon from the laundry.

    Sad.

  149. Roger

    “I think Queenslanders have been just as frustrated as I have, in all frankness,” [Ms. Palaszczuk] said.

    Straight out of the Peter Beattie playbook.

  150. C.L.

    How come the four banner judges all have lispsss?

  151. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Is Mr Stepanov giving Jackie Trad-Peterson the foot on the sticky paper? Will she answer questions in an appropriate forum at an appropriate time?

    Will Trad address Parliament with a frayed Akubra, “…you, you, you ought to know better than to prosecute me for a moral crime that isn’t technically illegal you LNP old boys….”

  152. stackja

    Courier Mail Reader Poll

    Should Jackie Trad be stood aside?

    Yes 94%
    No 4%
    Unsure 2%

  153. C.L.

    “I think Queenslanders have been just as frustrated as I have, in all frankness,” [Ms. Palaszczuk] said.

    Always amusing to see this old standard in the wild …

    If only the Fuhrer knew.

  154. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    All this talk of relationships prompts me to offer my own two bob’s worth – for male Cats only.

    1) – All unattached females view all other females as potential competition.
    2) – All attached females view all other females as a potential threat.

    If you understand these simple truisms and act accordingly, you will avoid trouble.

    Mostly.

  155. calli

    Companionable silence is much underrated.

  156. calli

    I scoff at your competition and threats.

  157. Roger

    Married men are generally happier with their lot than bachelors or those who co-habit, according to repeated studies across the Anglosphere.

  158. notafan

    A fact little known amongst the female of the species is that the unattached male of the group is:
    1. Uninterested in being set up by any of his mates’ wives or GFs with their ‘amazing’ friend; and
    2. Envied by his peers, as much as they say they love their other half.

    don’t know anything about 1

    but as married men live longer and married couples are happier than everyone else I think you are kidding yourself

    you seem to be an exception as most men who become single seem to be desperate to start another relationship and/or remarry.

    Women who are widowed/ divorced are far more likely to remain happy singles

    don’t worry about it being huffpost, they have no dog in this hunt and there are plenty of stats to back it up

    THE BLOG
    Why Divorced Men Are Quick To Marry Again

  159. Snoopy

    Married men are generally happier with their lot than bachelors or those who co-habit, according to repeated 97% of studies across the Anglosphere.

  160. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Nah, there’s a lot wrong with that. It doesn’t matter how much you jolly it up:

    If it is transitory and non-exclusive and non-sexual and without deep intensity I don’t see a great harm in it. Good has come out of it for both of the people I mention and know.

    I did see Harold and Maud in the early 70’s and wasn’t particularly impressed. Too much pretense that age was irrelevant and the young man was a definite head case to start with. Age is not irrelevant of course but it isn’t the only parameter between people. I am ten years older than Hairy. We have been together since 1980 and had two babies together, and have raised them plus two others from my first marriage. Many people see us as an ‘ideal’ couple. We are not of course, but we do get on famously well. Mostly.

    Any larger age difference can run into problems, but not always. I do have a girlfriend in her late sixties who had a child with and married a man seventeen years her junior. That child is now a civil engineer employed building roadways in China. This stable now-retired couple are still traveling the world together and in the photo she sent recently of them happily sailing, they look around the same sea-weathered age. He’s a taciturn sort of chap, worse even than Hairy who doesn’t say a lot, and she’s a worse talker than me (I can actually be quite quiet at times).

  161. calli

    If I worried about other women “stealing” my husband, he woulnd’t be worth keeping.

    Anyway, he’s too big to kidnap.

  162. notafan

    and some unattached females are not competing for male attention

    and some married women who have husbands that take their vows seriously are confident in the state of their marriages

    sheesh there are some silly theories being bandied about today

    Clearly some people think marriage is merely what is lam openly calls marriage; a contract that exchanges sex for food and shelter.

  163. notafan

    If I worried about other women “stealing” my husband, he woulnd’t be worth keeping.

    exactly

  164. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    I scoff at your competition and threats.

    Of course you do!!
    You’re a female.
    They always do.
    Nonetheless . . .

  165. bespoke

    If I worried about other men “stealing” my wife, he wouln’t be worth keeping.

    It’s mutual.

  166. notafan

    The Anglosphere has no desire to promote the Christian notion of marriage so why would they make up such a statistic?

    it has been the aim of the left to tear down marriage for decades but the not stupid men generation after generation defy them

    but sure go with the marriage makes men miserable and they would be better off pursuing free sex from tramps on T’ndr meme

    it so makes sense!

  167. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Maybe it’s because marriage has its share of benefits for men — married men are healthier and better off financially than unmarried men.

    Does anyone actually read the articles posted here?

    The second claim is simply false.

    It came from CNN.

    The first claim is contingent on NOT getting divorced.

    A good claim to make in Australia before 1975 perhaps.

    “Just be alpha enough bro, maintain frame and find a woman who won’t divorce you”

    Different generations and values.

  168. notafan

    Are you saying Frank that every single first marriage contracted after 1975 has ended in divorce?

    I can count dozens, probably hundreds of of examples of people I know where that is not true

  169. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Can anyone explain in simple terms why they would possibly think a man is better off financially if he gets married?

    The wedding itself is usually these days an extravagant and shallow financial black hole.

    100k down the gurgler for absolutely nothing. Gret if you can pay in cash, otherwise…

    Besides the actual financial details within the marriage; the contingent liabilities mean this argument is always nonsense.

  170. Snoopy

    Was the married men are healthier data adjusted for the Gay plague effect?

  171. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    I can count dozens, probably hundreds of of examples of people I know where that is not true

    That’s nice. It’s also obviously anecdotal evidence.

    What is the divorce rate?

    Do you think society, in general, has the same conservative values as you regarding the notion of divorce as a genuine last resort?

    If you want marriage rates to go up, go back to the old laws.

    Men don’t want to get on a plane that has a 50% chance of blowing up.

  172. bespoke

    You pay 100k for a wedding then you deserve what you get.

  173. notafan

    *With so many urban men FASHIONABLY gay*

    Seriously?

    the numbers are static

    just no

    and

    nonsense

    you can’t turn who you are sexually attracted to on and off like a tap

  174. Roger

    This should be good:

    The next CNN “Town Hall” with Democrat candidates will focus on the issues of the Alphabet people.

  175. Mater

    You pay 100k for a wedding then you deserve what you get.

    Yep. If she’s demanding a $100k wedding, you’ve had your warning and deserve what comes next.

  176. Top Ender

    Mugabe took Jewel of Africa and stripped it of all worth

    BRUCE LOUDON
    COLUMNIST

    They may shed crocodile tears and praise him as “an icon of Africa’s liberation”, but few will genuinely mourn the passing of Robert ­Gabriel Mugabe at the age of 95.

    Nor should they, for the tragic, impoverished wreck of a country that Zimbabwe remains two years after he was deposed in an army coup stands as a monument to the destruction he wrought during his almost 40 years of terrifying ­tyrannical rule in a country that had long been regarded as the “Jewel of Africa”.

    Even by the abysmal standards of post-colonial Africa, “Comrade Bob” was particularly bad, and it is to my everlasting shame that I played a very small part in helping him outsmart rivals and become Zimbabwe’s leader in 1980.

    It was in the midst of the “chimur­enga”, the war of liberation being fought by Zimbabwe’s barefooted bush fighters against white rule. At a summit of post-­colonial leaders from across the African continent in Gabon, West Africa, crucial decisions were immine­nt on whether Mugabe or his arch-rival, Joshua Nkomo, should be supported to become Zimbabwe’s leader.

    Mugabe was the outsider. In the media room as the crucial gathering got under way, he ­appeared downcast. Nkomo was surrounded by aides and helpers. Mugabe had only his loyal deputy, Edgar Tekere, with him. They ­desperately needed to type up a statement for the continent’s ­leaders but had no means to do so.

    They fixed their eyes on my ­ancient Olivetti Letra 32 typewriter, in those days, in the late 1970s, the standard resource for foreign correspondents batting around the world’s troublespots. They asked if they could borrow it.

    Mugabe sat at the keyboard pecking away, trying to compose his vital statement. It was clear his two fingers were hopeless.

    To get him off my typewriter, I offered to help. He dictated while I typed. It did much, apparently, to swing Africa’s support behind him and eclipse Nkomo, enabling him to become Zimbabwe’s leader in 1980.

    Yet on the occasions when I saw Mugabe afterwards, he never once recalled, much less thanked me, and that says much about the man who became one of the world’s most feared and corrupt despots.

    The hauteur and disdain he displayed­ after I’d helped him out in Libreville became the hallmark of his destruction of a country that had been Africa’s breadbasket, and its emergence as the epitome of misrule and ­oppression.

    At the beginning, of course, he sought to create a different ­impression. A devout Catholic, ­educated by Jesuits, he was deeply religious. In his first address after becoming president following the 1979 Lancaster House Agreement, he surprised even his supporters by declaring in clipped English that reflected his past as a language teacher: “I urge you, whether you are black or white, to join me in a new pledge … to forget our grim past, forgive others, and forget.”

    Yet it was Mugabe who never forgot. “Mugabe hates … nobody hates like Mugabe,” a close friend of his told me years ago as I searched for an answer to the at times murderous malevolence that led him to turn on white farmers, who were the backbone of the economy and food supply chain.

    Many attributed it to what happened when he was imprisoned by then-Rhodesia’s white rulers, who refused to let him attend the funeral of one of his children. In his lonely isolation, Mugabe was enraged. He never forgot or forgave.

    He was a complex man: ironic­ally, despite his fierce anti-­colonial­ism, declared Marxism and determination to end British rule, throughout his years in power he retained many customs that echoed colonial rule. He ­entertained visitors with fine blends of English breakfast tea imported­ from London, served in Royal Doulton crockery, and maintained a deep personal ­admiration for the Queen.

    Invariably, he dressed in pinstriped Savile Row suits and, when he wanted to, showed the manners of a sophisticated university don as he lectured listeners on the ­iniquities of those who criticised his regime.

    His manner in private conversations was the ­antithesis of that of most despots. A stickler for protocol, he would frown on aides who did not ­observe the formality that he saw as essential to perceptions of the regime he wanted to build. Yet the sham became clear as he reduced Zimbabwe to a form of murderous oppression with few parallels in post-colonial ­Africa.

    It didn’t take him long to bare his fangs. Soon after he came to power, Nkomo supporters began agitating against plans for one-party rule, and he launched his North Korean-trained Fifth Brigade on the hapless people of Matabeleland, Nkomo’s stronghold.

    It became known as the Gukurahundi massacre, with 20,000 ­civilians slaughtered.

    That 1982 massacre was a turning point. Mugabe showed his true colours as a tyrant intolerant of opposition.

    As his country plunged into decades of famine, an HIV epidemic and hyperinflation in which the central bank printed useless notes, the arch-proponent of pan-Africanism and Marxism sought to ­apportion blame for the chaos and turned on the 4000 white farmers who did so much to keep the economy going.

    Nothing better sums up ­Mugabe’s madness: the farmers were among Africa’s most efficient producers of food, ­essential to the country’s ­survival, yet he turned on them with a viciousness that still baffles many.

    Zimbabwe’s famine is a direct consequence of that madness but, as the nation sunk into impoverishment, the tyrant would taunt his citizens by throwing lavish parties at which French champagne and caviar were served.

    Few leaders in modern history have been more brazenly corrupt.

    Mugabe was no founding ­father of Zimbabwe: he was more the appalling destroyer of the “Jewel of Africa”.

    Link

  177. notafan

    too easy

    only one in three first marriages end in divorce

    According to the annual Australian Wedding Industry Report, in 2018, the average final cost of a wedding in Australia was $31,368. In contrast, the average starting wedding budget is $21,236, while couples believe that their final wedding cost will be $25,540

    marriage and divorce stats

  178. Arky

    calli
    #3149559, posted on September 7, 2019 at 10:27 am
    Companionable silence is much underrated

    ..
    Exactly right.

  179. notafan

    There may t have been or will be a wedding in my family this year, it will be or was not extravagant, and all that is good and proper and built to last to boot.

  180. Roger

    Can anyone explain in simple terms why they would possibly think a man is better off financially if he gets married?

    Google “marriage premium”, dot.

  181. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    only one in three first marriages end in divorce

    According to the annual Australian Wedding Industry Report, in 2018, the average final cost of a wedding in Australia was $31,368.

    Only one in three. “Average final cost”, adjusted down by shills.

    Marriage is a serious lifelong commitment. Handwaving way the perils of how society has made it an expensive joke is dangerous.

  182. Bushkid

    calli
    #3149432, posted on September 7, 2019 at 7:37 am
    Intelligent Yoof

    🤓

    Calli, that is truly mind-boggling!

    Why is it always the – shall we say – less glamorous or the photogenically challenged who push so hard on the “feminism” thing? Or are they just miserable people determined to make themselves look so ugly?
    And where does the one of the far left of the photo fit in? I’m genuinely intrigued.

  183. Top Ender

    Behrouz Boochani’s book No Friend But the Mountains describes his attempted journey to Australia on people-smuggling boats and his detention since 2013 on Manus Island. Surprisingly, despite the rule, as Quadrant’s Michael Connor has noted, that the writer must be an Australian citizen or permanent resident, he won the Victorian Premier’s Literary Award for Non-fiction. Just lately, to add to the plethora of other honours, he collected the National Biography Award.

    Inspired by the gushing reviews and suspecting that the accolades showered on Boochani (above) owe more to what he is — an “asylum seeker” — rather than what he has written, I took up his biography to sate my curiosity. Could his book be anywhere near so good as the literary circuit set insists? Read on.

  184. egg_

    Why is it always the – shall we say – less glamorous or the photogenically challenged who push so hard on the “feminism” thing? Or are they just miserable people determined to make themselves look so ugly?

    Blair didn’t invent “Frightbat” from thin air.

  185. notafan

    The only one doing hysterical hand waving is you dot

    do you also jump at your own shadow?

    Some ethnic groups have a thing for extravagant weddings -a Chinese relative by marriage spent over $200,00 a few years ago

    I don’t know any Aussies who think it awesome to blow $100.000 on a wedding, everyone is far more interested in saving for a house deposit

    all the weddings my girls have been attending lately have been perfectly reasonable affairs, some down right budget with an old fashioned morning ceremony with coffee and cake after and dinner with the family only in the evening

  186. bespoke

    Have the Reception at a pub/home, make it ” buy your own drinks”. This deters grifters plus saves money to buy tools.

  187. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Roger
    #3149589, posted on September 7, 2019 at 11:01 am

    Can anyone explain in simple terms why they would possibly think a man is better off financially if he gets married?

    Google “marriage premium”, dot.

    It is a load of crap. They work longer hours. [I “wonder” why]. Those on higher incomes are more attractive to women and thus more likely to get married.

    Getting married is not a superpower that makes you more likeable or productive.

    The idea that your boss will give you a raise because you got married presupposes all employers are whacky fundamentalist Christians who do not tolerate lifelong bachelors or bachelorettes.

    Do these studies control for age? 18-year-olds have less quals and experience. A lot of 40-year-olds have decades of experience, a degree or a trade and might have been married.

  188. Arky

    Woman we buried yesterday had to spend some of her last weeks to ensure husband could cook himself a basic meal.
    Woman, make sure he can cook and run the house before you get cancer.
    Blokes, make sure she can change a wheel and do the basic house repairs before you cark it.

  189. Ivan Denisovich

    If you want marriage rates to go up, go back to the old laws.

    Melanie Phillips:

    Tearing up the sexual contract

    ………The onslaught against marriage has been spearheaded by the intelligentsia in both Britain and the US. These professionals are of the utmost influence in determining the norms of a culture. Between them all, they tore up the sexual contract and made it increasingly difficult for men and women to form the lasting associations they wanted to make in order to bear and raise their children. Yet that wasn’t enough to strike at marriage itself. The links in the chain were snapping, but there was one further coupling whose fracture dealt marriage a devastating blow. This was the change to the divorce laws which broadly abandoned evidence of wrongdoing for ‘agreement’ that the marriage was over, a change which profoundly undermined standards of conduct, altered the shape of sexual relationships, legitimised and encouraged irresponsibility by both sexes and perpetrated to an astonishing degree systematic injustice against men.

    Easy divorce was supposed to be the symbol of freedom, the means to deliver the miserable from their yoke of married oppression so that they could float blissfully into Anthony Giddens’s plastic utopia. The point is, though, that no-fault divorce does not merely provide the means to end a marriage; it actively demeans marriage as well. If the commitment of marriage can be torn up with no good reason given, it becomes less meaningful even than a contract to buy a second-hand car. As the actress Goldie Hawn, who has lived with actor Kurt Russell for 16 years after both were divorced, said: ‘Just getting married didn’t mean for either of us that we had lived happily ever after. If that promise that we make in marriage can be broken, why bother to make it?

    The combination of divorce with the loss of economic privileges has meant that marriage no longer guarantees the security which is its fundamental feature. In most countries, the marriage vows are reinforced by social ostracism, financial costs for those who separate, legal penalties for the spouse who is primarily responsible for the breakdown of the marriage and positive support for marriage in the form of social and economic privileges. Many of these have been weakened or eliminated in Britain and the US. As the economist Robert Rowthorn has argued, far from expanding personal freedom this loss of security in marriage has significantly restricted it. Marriage is primarily an institution that creates trust between individuals. Since its promises are no longer legally enforceable, however, its guarantee of security is no longer credible. This has led to a major erosion of trust, and deprived individuals of their freedom to make credible commitments to each other.

    Defenders of these ‘no fault’ divorce laws argue that they did not alter the shape of family patterns but simply reflected changes in attitude that had already happened. Of course, laws don’t emerge from a vacuum: they are certainly shaped by prevailing social and cultural norms. However, the divorce laws, like so much in the family debate, were reformed by unrepresentative groups with very particular agendas of their own and which were not in step with public opinion. All the evidence suggests that public attitudes were gradually dragged along behind laws that were generally understood at the time to mean something very different from what they subsequently came to represent.

    In any case, the argument that the law has no effect on public attitudes is bizarre and significantly, is a claim that is only made in respect of family obligations. As one American lawyer pointed out, ‘only when the morals to be legislated have the potential of impeding the affected person’s “liberty” to leave his family when he so chooses do we hear objections. For example, in matters of breach of contract, no-one has objected to assigning blame for failure to perform a contract, requiring that contracts be performed in good faith and assessing damages based upon whether the party breached to contract in good or bad faith. If principles of contract law involve moral judgments in the context of a relationship between strangers, why should the law hesitate to make a moral judgment about spouses who have been married for thirty years and have three children?’

    The whole point of the law is to regulate and constrain behaviour by laying down norms, deviation from which earns social sanction. Laws prohibiting murder, say, or theft were laid down not primarily to punish those who committed these crimes but to deter people from behaving in this way by pronouncing such behaviour, with all the force society could muster, to be wrong. Law delivers justice by assigning responsibility for anti-social conduct and dealing with the miscreant accordingly. In civil law, that means that anyone who breaks a contract without good reason incurs a penalty.

    This is fundamental to justice. Without such an underpinning, justice becomes impossible, law becomes meaningless and behaviour turns anarchic. So much, one might have thought, was obvious. Yet when it comes to divorce and family structures, our governing classes solemnly aver that these most fundamental areas of our lives are wholly impervious to the influence of the law, public policy or the example set by society’s role models. Instead, we are led to infer, they have resulted from huge cultural forces from which the law, political initiatives, academic discourse or the behaviour of public figures are all completely detached. What these huge cultural forces actually consist of, therefore, remains a mystery.

    Many family lawyers refuse to acknowledge that the law influences marital behaviour. The Family Law Act 1996 introduced unilateral repudiation of marriage into English law for the first time. Although this provision was abandoned as unworkable without ever being brought into force, those who sought to justify it said it would merely civilise a process whose incidence was impervious to law or public pronouncement. It was simply the latest attempt by the law to manage cultural change, over which law had no influence whatsoever. Yet as the legal academic Ruth Deech has pointed out, every change in the divorce law has been presented as a tidying up exercise to civilise the process; yet after every such change, the divorce rate rose. The more divorces there were, the more people thought of divorce as a solution to their problems. The more willing people became to use it, the more pressure grew on the system. Greater pressure led to a relaxation of the rules, leading to calls for further changes in the law to bring it in line with reality, and another increase in the divorce rate.

    The truth of the matter was that divorce law, like any other law, both reflected and created cultural change. The law professor Mary Ann Glendon has chronicled the way family law itself progressively changed every one of the assumptions it had made about domestic relations, with the most dramatic changes occurring in the last twenty years. Family law no longer held that the family served society but worked instead for the fullest development of the individual. One unintentional effect was to realise the dream of the French revolutionaries: ‘that citizens would one day stand in direct relation to the state, without intermediaries’. However, she observed, it was wrong to say that family law had simply kept up with the times. It had often been as much at variance with prevailing social attitudes and practices as the traditional systems it replaced.

    In particular, there were two crucial areas where she said family lawyers were out of step with reality. First, it had promoted the notion that individuals were autonomous. ‘Most glaringly, the legal imagery of separateness and independence contrasts everywhere with the way most functioning families operate and with the circumstances of mothers and young children in both intact and broken homes. Yet the law holds self-sufficiency up as an ideal, suggesting that dependency is somehow degrading, and implicitly denying the importance of human intersubjectivity’.

    Her second vital point was that family law believed that it should not impose any values except for equality, individual liberty and tolerance which were all subjective. ‘The result is often that other normative legal propositions have tended to be phased out, even when they are quite widely shared’. Nor could family lawyers pretend that the law was neutral in its effects on attitudes and behaviour. ‘In a way that is no less real for being unquantifiable, laws remitting unilateral divorce on demand, for example, must have a certain influence on the way people think and feel about personal commitments’. She concluded that where law ran counter to other prevailing trends, it had little effect on cultural norms but where it ran broadly in line with them it had considerable effect. ‘This line of reasoning leads to the suspicion that … law and government may have been more influential in contributing unintentionally to those dis-integrating trends … than when they have deliberately set out to strengthen families.’

    All of this was certainly true. The divorce laws both encapsulated and promoted a set of socially destructive values, which combined to purvey the message that adults were free to tear up the promises they had made and pursue their own selfish desires at the expense of trust, commitment and their children’s interests. This was because family lawyers, from whom every push for divorce reform has emanated, persist in beliefs that go against the grain of human behaviour and our deepest instincts for fairness and justice. They insist that the law must be neutral on family life, taking no position for or against any particular family structure. This approach is as dangerous as it is dishonest.

    Law can never be value-neutral. It inevitably embodies values of one kind or another. The value that family law now embodies above all else is that conduct no longer matters. This is a recipe for injustice, the equivalent of the legal system tipping the wink to bad behaviour. Such a refusal to judge between right and wrong immediately creates intellectual absurdity. It is currently very common, for example, to hear judges, marriage guidance counsellors and even government ministers express the view that a man might not be wrong to commit adultery if his wife has refused to have sex with him. By this reasoning, it would follow that if the man beat his wife to a pulp because she refused to have sex with him, our judges would similarly refuse to condemn him. The illogicality exposes the argument for the weasel that it is. The reason for the reluctance to judge adultery to be wrong is because of the reluctance to judge any behaviour to be wrong, unless there is demonstrable physical harm.

    Moreover, the claim that the law remains neutral between family structures is deeply disingenuous. Family law has been driven for at least thirty years by a specific animus against marriage and against men, which has been able to ride on the back of its additional and naïve belief that the law should no longer stand in the way of the overriding right to happiness, as expressed in the 1969 Divorce Reform Act. This was the watershed change that replaced the need to prove fault with the notion of ‘irretrievable breakdown’ of the marriage, which could be demonstrated by adultery, unreasonable behaviour, desertion or separation. The law no longer needed to decide much at all: judgment had become subjective. Not surprisingly, in 1973 a special procedure was introduced to allow couples to divorce without even appearing in court. Divorce law had become little more than an administrative facilitator. The result was twofold: the significance of divorce was greatly diminished, and the way was then open for a specific anti-marriage, anti-male agenda to move in.

    The Law Commission, which has initiated the changes to family and divorce law, has been consistently hostile to marriage, pushing tenaciously for its rights and responsibilities to be extended to the unmarried. In 1980, Professor Brenda Hoggett QC [now Baroness Hale, president of the Supreme Court] who for many years was the driving force behind the Law Commission’s family law policies, wrote: ‘Family law no longer makes any attempt to buttress the stability of marriage or any other union. It has adopted principles for the protection of children and dependent spouses which could be made equally applicable to the unmarried. In such circumstances, the piecemeal erosion of the distinction between marriage and non-marital cohabitation may be expected to continue. Logically we have already reached a point at which, rather than discussing which remedies should now be extended to the unmarried, we should be considering whether the legal institution of marriage continues to serve any useful purposes’.

    Other family lawyers agreed. Professor E.M. Cliff, for example, challenged the assumption that marriage law was necessary at all. ‘The traditional obligations of married couples to live together and be sexually faithful to each other are manifestly unenforceable in modern conditions and could be discarded without any difficulty,’ he wrote. The Law Commission said there was no more need to support marriage than ‘any other living arrangement’ and expressed insouciance about the high rates of divorce. It airily concluded ‘…the number of divorces does not, as is sometimes alleged, indicate any fundamental weakening of the fabric of society’.

    Having redefined marriage as little more than a temporary staging post, law reformers actively promoted the idea that the family unit need no longer promote sexual fidelity and need not contain a father. As Brenda Hoggett observed: ‘The radical improvements made and still proposed in the remedies available for dependent wives have greatly reduced the legal attractions of marriage for men… As long as women are willing to cohabit or associate with men without marriage, then men are not sexually penalised for remaining single. If access to women is not contingent upon marriage and if the father’s role is devalued, then non-marriage becomes attractive.’

    The deeply disingenuous hallmark of many of these lawyers’ arguments was to observe the slide away from marriage caused in part by the operation of the law, and then urge further changes to the law to ‘regularise’ the new landscape. Thus the notion of legitimacy was altered and unmarried parenthood given the stamp of legal approval.

    The Family Law Reform Act 1987 removed almost all legal disadvantages suffered by illegitimate children and gave the unmarried biological father almost the same rights as the married father. The law constantly chipped away at the position of the married father by giving the unmarried father equivalent rights. Fathers could have their share in their children without living with them or being actively involved in their upbringing; but of course, they always had to pay. Under the guise of being fashionably non-judgmental and dispensing an Olympian even-handedness, the law was actively building a model of the family in which the father was becoming an optional extra.

    Such ‘even-handedness’ produced ever more breathtaking calls for what amounted to legalised expropriation of assets, in which women would mainly be the beneficiaries of such injustice. Dame Mary Arden, a high court judge and former chairman of the Law Commission, said for example that if a couple split up, it was unfair for the one who had paid the mortgage to retain the property while the other who used the earnings for the shopping did not. Thus spending money was made the moral equivalent of earning it.

    A solicitor, Mark Harper, wrote approvingly: ‘It is not the purpose of family law to discriminate against people who live in different types of families or relationships but it is the purpose of family law to protect the vulnerable if a relationship breaks down’. This, of course, ignored the fact that the law might be making it more likely that relationships would break down and thus hurt the vulnerable. Indeed, they would become even more vulnerable, since the evidence suggests that cohabiting couples are at the greatest risk not merely of violence by each other but the most dangerous forms of violence.

    This ostensible neutrality is not only turning its back on the elementary rules of justice embodied in contract law. It is also standing justice on its head, rewarding miscreants and blaming their victims instead for causing distress. The Law Commission, for example, is considering recognising the rights of mistresses who have contributed more than a sexual role to their relationship with married men. This was hailed by one commentator as ‘exciting news for those women who for years have been living silently in the shadow of their lovers’ marriages’. The cause of her excitement was the premise beneath this proposal that marriages are doing the mistresses harm.

    The fact that wives are the victims here of the bad behaviour by men and their mistresses has been completely inverted. The victimiser becomes the victim. Women who are principal parties to serious breaches of trust are to be recompensed for their destructive behaviour. The longer the affair continues, the longer mistresses behave badly, the more claim they apparently have for compensation. In the Law Commission’s moral universe, therefore, marriage is an offence against the unfaithful. Bad is to be rewarded, good is to be punished.

    Far from objecting to this Kafka-esque scenario, family lawyers approved. Margaret Bennett, a solicitor specialising in family law, thought it was a badly needed move towards ‘generally reassessing the status of modern relationships’. ‘Once you start giving mistresses and cohabitants rights, what is the point in having marriage?’ she asked, and wondered aloud whether this was a step towards polygamy.

    https://www.melaniephillips.com/tearing-up-sexual-contract/

  190. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    I don’t know any Aussies who think it awesome to blow $100.000 on a wedding, everyone is far more interested in saving for a house deposit

    Bullshit. You can’t just blame the Chinks for this. Whitey is still by far the dominant ethnic group.

    all the weddings my girls have been attending lately have been perfectly reasonable affairs, some down right budget with an old fashioned morning ceremony with coffee and cake after and dinner with the family only in the evening

    You don’t understand what a small conservative enclave you live in. It sounds like paradise but you are basically an endangered species.

    do you also jump at your own shadow?

    Seriously bring up the idea of “an old fashioned morning ceremony with coffee and cake after and dinner with the family only in the evening” with most millenial or Gen X women.

    Well, I like the idea of it, but your chances of keeping your fiancee to become your wife are basically zero.

  191. Bushkid

    Women who are widowed/ divorced are far more likely to remain happy singles

    In my own case, nota, it’s not a matter of “remaining a happy single”.
    For me it’s a choice, well perhaps more an unstated but deeply felt continuing and permanent attachment to my recently dead husband who I cannot conceive of ever being replaced by any other man.
    During the brief few months of his illness, when thoughts of the future without him inevitably arose, it was always the same. My man was a true life partner, never to be replaced by any other.
    Sure, it’s painful and lonely right now, but even without the sparkle and enjoyment of that deeply-entwined shared life and love, life does go on. But single I’ll remain, even if not happily. Content to live as I am, but not “happily single”.
    It’s complicated.

  192. Knuckle Dragger

    You know, I’ve always thought zyco’s links were a bit hit and miss.

    Not the three clips upthread. Dear me. Some of the scenarios described are exactly, to the word, what I and quite a few friends have gone through.

    Those clips should be a standalone VCE subject for boys. I wish I’d had that advantage in 1998. The upside, of course, is my excellent son who turns 15 in the next week or so.

    Nonetheless – highlights:

    ‘A woman is effectively a depreciating asset.’ (Stolen).
    ‘My (post-wedding, morbidly obese) wife is like a piece of furniture that never shuts up.’
    ‘My marriage is like life in prison, stuck with an intimidating cellmate who DOESN’T want to have sex with you.’

  193. notafan

    my understanding that fault free divorce was intended to benefit the authors of the new law

    men who wanted trade in for a newer model

    unintended consequences

  194. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Compulsory viewing.

    Yeah sure, the US system is worse than what we have; but who says we’re not heading that way?

  195. notafan

    I am not a prog
    I’m not I’m not i tell you!

    just because I agree with 97% of their philosophies and world views!

  196. Knuckle Dragger

    Good on you, Bushkid.

    That was the best phrase I could think of, sorry.

    #mumbleduhforgetisaidanything

  197. Top Ender

    Policeman cleared over punch force

    DAVID PENBERTHY

    A policeman who punched an alleged graffiti vandal after he spat in the officer’s face has been cleared of using excessive force, after an internal disciplinary inquiry.

    In a case that was being watched closely by police nationally, the unnamed officer, who was captured on phone video hitting the spitting offender, will face no sanction over his actions.

    SA Police Commissioner Grant Stevens broke with standard practice on Friday by revealing the outcome of the internal SAPOL inquiry because of the high level of interest in the incident, which occurred in July when three men were caught by police vandalising property in Adelaide’s south.

    As a result of that incident, Clarence Rahana Sydney Yates, 22, was charged with marking graffiti, resisting arrest and assault, with the police statement saying he had “assaulted police, including spitting on the face and arm of an officer”. Mr Yates’s two friends filmed his arrest, which shows the officer hitting him.

    Phone camera video taken by the men shows them launching a profanity-laden tirade against the officer after his hand comes into contact with Mr Yates’s face. “You smacked him in the face you dog. You’re f..ked! You’re f..king done, dog! You pig! You f..king pig!” the men say on the recording.

    “Normally I don’t talk about disciplinary inquiries but there are occasions where it is appropriate and this is one because there was so much media attention,” Mr Stevens said.

    “The substantive matter that this person is dealing with is still going through the courts but we have conducted an internal inquiry, a disciplinary inquiry in relation to the conduct of the police officer, and the determination is that there will be no action against the police officer.”

    The SA Police Association has spoken to the officer in question and was steeling itself to mount a spirited defence had he been charged.

    But Mr Stevens went into bat for the safety of all his officers and their right to defend themselves.

    Print edition Oz

  198. egg_

    Of all the murderous monsters of the past century, the *only* one who got bad rap from the Left was Hitler. Hitler, too, by the way, was supported by the Left until he stopped being Stalin’s bestie.

    Sociopathy 101
    Sociopaths require an enabler or patron to perform their heinous deeds.
    Comrade.

  199. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    notafan
    #3149603, posted on September 7, 2019 at 11:18 am

    my understanding that fault free divorce was intended to benefit the authors of the new law

    men who wanted trade in for a newer model

    unintended consequences

    Why do you continue to shame men when women – particularly educated women initiate most divorces?

    Also, who voted Gough into power? Look at the postwar demographics.

  200. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Phone camera video taken by the men shows them launching a profanity-laden tirade against the officer after his hand comes into contact with Mr Yates’s face. “You smacked him in the face you dog. You’re f..ked! You’re f..king done, dog! You pig! You f..king pig!”

    If only he called him a dog-arsed c**t.

  201. notafan

    For me it’s a choice, well perhaps more an unstated but deeply felt continuing and permanent attachment to my recently dead husband who I cannot conceive of ever being replaced by any other man.

    It is always a choice

    but there are lots of widows like you who don’t remarry being one man women

    my mother is another widowed quite young too -over thirty years now

    and she did get at least two proposals to my knowledge

  202. Roger

    Well, here’s one good thing to come out of the AGW scare:

    SLIMM nuclear reactors.

  203. Empire 5:5

    Take it to Tinder, Frank.

  204. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Could his book be anywhere near so good as the literary circuit set insists? Read on.

    Seems to me to be one long account of someone looking, for something, no matter how trivial, to take offence at.

  205. areff

    My granma’s sister, the late Maggie Love, worked as divorce lawyer’s investigator throughout the Fifties and Sixties. Amusing stories of her peeking through windows and, once, being trapped in a wardrobe while the erring couple were testing the mattress, are rib-tickling staples of family get-togethers.

    No fault divorce might not have worked out as intended, but it represents an improvement on a legal system based on keyhole peepers, door kickers and candid camera evidence gatherers.

  206. egg_

    You can say that Mugabe was wonderful and Smith was “awful” and you will keep your job in any respectable corporation

    Corporatism in the clown universe.
    Comrade.

  207. Knuckle Dragger

    The actual marriage ceremony is inconsequential.

    The reception, however, is a gigantic self-congratulatory and tortuously expensive ‘look at moi’ fest that is a dress rehearsal for how the ladeee expects to be treated for the rest of her days.

    The groom and his henchmen, of course, are cut out cardboard figures at the back who may or may not appear in the odd photo.

    The bridesmaids, of course, are a combination of ‘that will never be me’, ‘why isn’t that me’ and ‘I remember when that was me’ and are thus the easiest of low-hanging fruit for the groomsmen to pluck at their convenience.*

    *Evidence: 7 x groomsman gigs, 1 x best man. Result as described above x 9.

  208. Farmer Gez

    I have a dear friend of 70, a recent widow who has been consoling herself with a young man of 24. Platonic so far,

    Bloody hell!
    Dr BG and now Lizzie running the Autumn-Spring romance novellas.

  209. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The groom and his henchmen, of course, are cut out cardboard figures at the back who may or may not appear in the odd photo.

    “The wedding gives the bride the opportunity to ride, in triumph, around the social circle of her friends, relatives and work colleagues.

    The groom serves, admirably, as the horse.”

    The most lavish wedding I ever saw featured eighteen groomsmen and bridesmaids – it lasted less then a year.

  210. notafan

    How is stating a fact re a legal change ‘shaming’ men?

    It is you playing the blame game

    both sexes are at fault

  211. Empire 5:5

    Married men are generally happier with their lot than bachelors or those who co-habit, according to repeated studies across the Anglosphere.

    Disclaimer: individual circumstances may vary. Consult your priest, guru or blog friend for personal advice.

    Some blokes can’t resist throwing darts at the wrong quadrant of the hot-crazy matrix. Others mitigate the risk by just not going there.

    Black Widows are a real thing. The apparatus of justice is misandrist. Blokes gotta survive.

  212. egg_

    Is there a minimum age for emerging elders? At what age does an emerging elder become present elder?

    They’re probably getting younger, like all wise sooths today.
    /Sarc

  213. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I have never seen a female doctor marry anyone else other than another doctor, or an academic.

    My Big Sis is a female doctor and she has been married six times. Strange, as with a first class Honours in Medicine she is not generally a slow learner. She insists on marrying them. Only one of her husbands, and not the first one, has been an academic, now quite a respected and senior one. They didn’t last long together, four years maybe, although they did have an interestingly wild time during this, his .. umm .. formative period. The others were equally hopeless husband material regardless of their occupations: a stock-car driving wild boy criminal car yard mechanic from Mt. Druitt, a troubled and seriously incompetent electrician also from the car yard days, a midget-complex assertive technical know-it-all salesman, and then a Holy Roller businessman type in sore need of professional anger management. And they are just the ones she married. There were others, I probably don’t know of them all; the best of whom was a lovely Chinese student of English literature she lived with for two years; the medico gay guy was quite nice too, if memory serves (hard to keep accurate track of them all), an on-and-off friendship. In her early seventies Big Sis finally met number six, who is a treasure, a normal man, a carpenter who plays in a jazz band and writes apocalyptic novels. Six years later they are still together.

    To paraphrase an old saying, there is a lot of ruin in a lifetime. Hard times as a kid explains much.
    I attended and spoke at all of the weddings but was running short of new material by number five.

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