Tuesday Forum: September 10, 2019

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  1. Tel

    Women commit crimes, women go to jail.

    Typically for a very short time … because equality!!

    Check the stats … many times more men in jail. Based on the EXACT SAME theory that is used for income inequality we must now find some more women and lock them away to balance it up.

  2. Armadillo

    In which case it should be very easy to jail these women.

    None, you are confusing “culture” and “law”. It’s the difference between a 1st world country and a 3rd world country.

    Sadly, the Western World has fallen into the same clap trap (albeit in the opposite direction).

    One rule for all.

  3. Overburdened

    For those with an interest, Enho’s efforts at the Nagoya Basho a few months back was outstanding.

    At 99kg, he was the midget of the competition and showed the heart of a lion and great technique.

    In some situations he was too small, regardless of his skill.

  4. mh

    Ellie
    #3155124, posted on September 13, 2019 at 10:41 pm
    Mh, they’re just being gay to be cool.

    Yeah, I know. A very lame contribution from me.

    I don’t find Miley sexy even when she is being a lezzo. What the hell was that Hemsworth guy thinking?

  5. zyconoclast

    US attorney recommends proceeding with charges against McCabe, as DOJ rejects last-ditch appeal

    McCabe — the former deputy and acting director of the FBI — appealed the decision of the U.S. attorney for Washington all the way up to Jeffrey Rosen, the deputy attorney general, but he rejected that request, according to a person familiar with the situation.

    The potential charges relate to DOJ inspector general findings against him regarding misleading statements concerning a Hillary Clinton-related investigation.

    A source close to McCabe’s legal team said they received an email from the Department of Justice which said, “The Department rejected your appeal of the United States Attorney’s Office’s decision in this matter. Any further inquiries should be directed to the United States Attorney’s Office.”

    McCabe spent 21 years with the FBI. He became the acting director in May 2017 after President Trump fired former director James Comey.

  6. Overburdened

    KD

    Dame Edna said that lesbianism left a bad taste in her mouth.

    Probably doing it wrong.

    I don’t know.

  7. Sinclair Davidson

    mh – you’re being unfair. I’m sure she is lovely.

    I just can’t get past her father being Billy Ray Cyrus and achy breaky heart

  8. None

    No army. I’m just pointing out that culture- in this case the woman being at home with young children – is no impediment to locking these women up. In fact their culture actually makes it easier to lock them up.

  9. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    As long as the “climate-emergency” lunacy continues to influence governments and corporations, the masses will pay more, be controlled more, and may even have their land redistributed.

    Yep. Depressing, innit?

    Contributing to the IPA’s forthcoming book about climate alarmism might be something useful to do. Widow’s mites acceptable, they say. As an aside, they sold genuine ‘mites’ encased in gold as necklaces in Is-r-ael. Nearly bought one, couple of thousand $US, then decided it would be rather naf to wear a mite decked in gold, to say nothing of the archaeological depredations of it.

    Hairy is looking at it throwing a little in to the IPA’s’ latest right now.
    We’ve donated to the other two. You get your name up in printed thanx for only circa $400 up.
    A bargain for aggrandizers. You can also opt out if you’d prefer to keep it to yourself.

  10. mh

    Comment:

    Kamala’s box is bigger than anybody’s

    Funny stuff from Willie Brown.

  11. Armadillo

    I don’t find Miley sexy even when she is being a lezzo. What the hell was that Hemsworth guy thinking?

    Every bloke on the planet thinks my missus is a slut, but I’m cool with that?

    I’m only guessing here.

  12. mh

    When does Billy Ray Cyrus tell Miley that she is becoming an embarrassment?

    That would be a difficult conversation.

  13. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Hiya, Ellie. Good to see you dropping in.
    I am up early tomorrow so have to sign out now having only just arrived here.

    Dame Edna said that lesbianism left a bad taste in her mouth.

    lol. Friday nite on the Cat.

  14. Sinclair Davidson

    When does Billy Ray Cyrus tell Miley that she is becoming an embarrassment?

    🙂

  15. None

    As long as the “climate-emergency” lunacy continues to influence governments and corporations, the masses will pay more, be controlled more, and may even have their land redistributed.

    as I have been warning for months and months declaring a climate emergency is purely a tactic in order to justify all sorts of draconian authoritarian measures. And the fact is people are just sitting there like boiled frogs and accepting this absolute nonsense.

  16. zyconoclast

    What the hell was that Hemsworth guy thinking?

    This may have won him over

  17. mh

    Tommy released!

    Someone get him to a barber, quick smart.

  18. Arky

    Kind of amusing seeing how even the most celebrated boomers have become irrelevant, dithering old fools with time:
    ..


  19. Steve trickler

    This clip echoes the banner Sinc has up at the moment. A fine tribute.

    Firefighting and Forgotten History.



  20. Arky

    Without their youth and counter culture edge, boomer celebs are just left with the self- obsession.

  21. None

    Miley Cyrus is the idiot that she is because Billy Ray is her dad. I really can’t understand peoples’ obsession with these so-called celebrities. These dysfunctional , immoral, useless, self-centred, talentless, tantrum throwing drug-addled, hypocritical train wrecks.

  22. zyconoclast

    Or may be this.

    Definitely NSFW

  23. Armadillo

    In fact their culture actually makes it easier to lock them up.

    It’s not an Islamic court that will be hearing the matter. But I get your point. The pressure on them from within their own community will be immense.

    The last thing you want to be is a “dibber dobber” against a man.

  24. zyconoclast

    Loosely translating to “seeds of joy”, ahuautle, or water fly eggs, were considered by the Aztecs to be the food of the gods.

    Intrigued, I asked the waiter what “ahuautle” is.

    “Insect eggs, señorita,” he replied, explaining that they were mixed into a batter, fried and topped with green salsa. “It’s a very special dish that goes back many, many years. Shall I place the order?”

    Laid by water flies from the Corixidae and Notonectidae families (though often referred to as “mosquitos” by locals), ahuautle is a delicacy that pre-dates the arrival of the Spanish in Mexico. Loosely translating to “seeds of joy” from Nahuatl, the ancient Aztec language, these precious quinoa-sized eggs were considered by the Aztecs to be the food of the gods.

  25. zyconoclast

    The workplaces that will pay for surrogacy

    In competitive industries, fertility benefits are a way to retain talent, especially female and LGBTQ employees. Surrogacy is a recent addition.

    Several years ago, William Preston began feeling the pressure of time. He and his husband, who had been together since they were teenagers, were now in their 30s and beginning to think seriously about starting a family.

    But they were shocked when they found out the costs of surrogacy and adoption. So, Preston was thrilled when his employer, the San Francisco-headquartered Internet of Things company Samsara, made a special announcement last November. Starting in 2019, it would be offering up to $15,000 (£12,300) per-employee-per-year to cover fertility expenses.

    It was a no-brainer to sign up for the fertility benefit immediately, Preston says. If they’d been sitting on the fence before then, the new policy “pushed us over the fence”.

    Preston, a sales executive who’d previously worked for small Bay Area start-ups, was initially drawn to Samsara partly because of its generous perks, from catered lunch to Uber and Lyft credits. But the value of the fertility benefit – which can also include egg and embryo freezing, adoption and semen analysis – dwarfed those.

    Of course, the couple will still have to shell out large sums from their own earnings. The cost of commercial surrogacy, which is banned in many countries such as the UK and Germany, can reach six figures in the US (but less than half that in Ukraine and Kenya).

    As you might imagine, then, the process has a lot of steps. The Samsara policy, administered externally by the fertility benefits management company Carrot, went beyond financial support to include a wealth of information that Preston and his husband found useful.

    After a long process of choosing an egg donor and verifying the clinic, the couple are expecting to receive their eggs later this month. They are hoping for a successful pregnancy by the end of 2019. An old friend of theirs has already offered to carry the baby (they’re finalising the arrangements including the compensation). Surrogacy appealed because “being part of the same DNA as the child was somewhat near the top of the list”, Preston explains, but they’re open to adoption as well.

    The benefit is available to all Samsara employees regardless of length of service, and at the moment there’s no requirement to stay with the company for a certain length of time to retain it. But there’s a subtler effect. “If anything, it makes you feel like you want to do well and that you want to succeed in the role so that you can continue to take advantage of that,” Preston says. As the company benefit is available each year, he’s hoping to draw on it next year as well, when the couple expect their first child to be born.

    [There is more]

  26. Knuckle Dragger

    That would be adequate this time of night.

    Thanks anyway, zyco.

  27. Armadillo

    Do we still get to burn threads? What’s the protocol?

  28. JD

    Heteronormativity, would be great with Scotch and a Cuban Cigar.

  29. None

    zyconoclast

    #3155159, posted on September 13, 2019 at 11:16 pm

    yes nothing like reducing women to egg factories and worms for hire. Oh my god is this progress or what? /sarcasm One of the biggest exploiters of third world women are actually gay male couples. Patriarchy wins again.

  30. Armadillo

    Blokes night at the Cat has been reduced to watching short videos of stuff even the sheliahs would be embarrassed to watch.

    Anyone want to throw up?

  31. Armadillo

    Arky, give us a video of your shit car. It’s gotta be better than this rubbish.

    #wordsIllregret

  32. John Constantine

    To add more doubt to the dismissal, shadows on the pitch showed a gap between bat and ball as the audio spike was registered.

    Warner’s left foot was moving at the time the edge, and his spikes dragging across the ground could have registered on the stump microphones.

    The dismissal has divided opinions on social media and in the commentary box, with Warne and Ponting disagreeing with the third umpire’s verdict.

    https://www.cricket.com.au/news/david-warner-third-umpire-review-caught-behind-drs-batting-broad-archer-ashes/2019-09-13

  33. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    My physician has informed me that the various tests, inflicted on my body, in the name of medical science, have been returned “negative” or “benign.”

    I’m punishing the Speyside single malt, Cats will do me the courtesy of ignoring all transmissions from this call sign. Closing down now, OUT.

  34. Knuckle Dragger

    John C, 11.51;

    Yeah nah. Just because the article had the sub-heading ‘Men’s Ashes’ and therefore lost all credibility.

  35. Armadillo

    #Iwasright

    Can someone please post a video about lesbians? Photographs of Hillary would be sufficient to bleach my brain until you delve into your video libraries. Something. Anything.

  36. Armadillo

    Arky, you hang doors in a house. FMD.

  37. Armadillo

    What’s the go with the “Happy Days” flooring? Are you constructing the Model Z in your loungeroom?

  38. Arky

    I hang armadillos in my house.

  39. Armadillo

    Do you have a Juke Box?

  40. Arky

    Nope.
    Try not to spaz out the cartoon dude.
    See yiz.

  41. Mark A

    Arky
    #3155192, posted on September 14, 2019 at 12:30 am

    Others may not appreciate you effort but some of us do.
    Look at the vid and compare with the latest, the transformation of a pile of junk into a beautiful motor car is amazing.

  42. Armadillo

    Ask him where the keys are.

  43. Geriatric Mayfly:

    Well the fraudsters are now in the hands of the ‘receivers.’ Wonder how many cents in the dollar the taxpayer will get for this failed enterprise.

    I’ll put good money on the need to detect fraud as being the excuse for another run at the National ID Card – with biometrics. Probably dNA biometrics.
    It’s a bloody cert.

  44. Notafan:

    Won’t make it tax deductible because that would be bad.
    And unfair to low income earners something something.

    Income splitting to married couples only.
    It just may give some mums the opportunity to stay at home.
    …and it may be the trigger for getting some single mothers into permanent relationships.

  45. Mark A

    Winston Smith
    #3155215, posted on September 14, 2019 at 3:13 am

    Income splitting to married couples only.
    It just may give some mums the opportunity to stay at home.
    …and it may be the trigger for getting some single mothers into permanent relationships.

    It would be a start for sure.
    Re benefits being tax deductible, I’m not sure why Aust. doesn’t follow this principle.
    In my travels I can’t see monies being handed straight out, always deduct from tax.

    Unemployment and other social security payments of course are a different matter.

  46. I’d love to stay and talk, but the painkillers are starting to work.
    Off to bed.

  47. 1735099

    Did you question why you never made the grade at the time?

    Didn’t need to.
    My officer selection interview lasted three minutes.
    I was asked – “What’s your opinion of Australians fighting in Vietnam?”
    My answer – “We have no business being there”.
    The interviewing officer told me to leave. He wasn’t happy.
    The scribbled comment on the page of my file is “Attitude unsuitable”.

    By the way, I received an HD for my last piece of assessed research.
    I don’t take too much time checking what I post here.
    Most of what is posted is weapons grade bullshit. I have to get with the vibe.
    It amuses me no end to note people trolling through my posts looking for contradictions.
    They obviously have SFA to do.
    Pearls before swine…..

  48. 1735099

    My physician has informed me that the various tests, inflicted on my body, in the name of medical science, have been returned “negative” or “benign.”

    You might be physically normal, but based on what you come up with here, you obviously haven’t had a psych assessment. Don’t.
    But I’ve got other news for you.
    Those test weren’t for “medical science”. They’re about corporate radiography, specialist fees, and your GP’s income.
    You obviously have a gold card.
    You’re now a walking cash cow at the taxpayers expense as far as the medical profession is concerned.
    You’ll note their eyes light up as you approach…..

  49. 1735099

    The saga of the dead parrot continues.
    These advertisers deserve congratulations –

    At least 10 brands have committed to pulling advertising from Alan Jones’ 2GB breakfast show, or confirmed their stance to continue to not advertise, in the wake of last week’s comment that Prime Minister Scott Morrison should shove a sock down New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern’s throat.

    Anytime Fitness, ME Bank, Bing Lee, RSL Art Union, Amart, Mercedes Benz, Snooze, Bunnings, Total Tools and Big W have all issued statements after pressure mounted against advertisers, largely in response to a campaign by activist groups Mad Fucking Witches and Sleeping Giants.

  50. MatrixTransform

    I see the retarded tourette still doesn’t understand how advertising works.

    Stamps foot … lock and load! … muh, Vietnam. muh

  51. Mater

    It amuses me no end to note people trolling through my posts looking for contradictions.
    They obviously have SFA to do.

    Some people just have memories beyond that of a Goldfish.
    If you are going to reincarnate a story over and over to use against people, don’t be surprised when they remember it, and then question why the ‘facts’ of the story have suddenly changed.

  52. MatrixTransform

    Numpty may be a little overwoke

  53. Mark A

    Mater
    #3155251, posted on September 14, 2019 at 6:50 am

    Some people just have memories beyond that of a Goldfish.

    Precisely, I can quote word for word some posts that grabbed my interest, maybe can’t recall the date but certainly the content.

    Not saying the same is true for numbers, some of his posts I just scroll over.

  54. Mater

    Bob,
    Would you like me to list *all the times you’ve used the “threw his rifle down” story, in all it’s various versions?

    *I can only account for those which I’ve seen or read. There could be more. I remember four.

    P.S. If you stuck to the facts, there wouldn’t be ‘contradictions’ for people to notice.

    P.P.S. There are lots more of your ‘contradictions’ floating around in the ether. When you start using them against people, rest assured, I’ll bring them to your attention.

  55. Mater

    Not saying the same is true for numbers, some of his posts I just scroll over.

    It’s one of my vices, Mark.
    My wife has ‘The Real Housewives of Dallas’, and I have…Bob. 🙁
    I’m unsure which insults my intelligence more.

  56. 1735099

    Would you like me to list *all the times you’ve used the “threw his rifle down” story, in all it’s various versions?

    Go ahead.
    Make my day.
    It needs to be remembered.
    It’s not a “story” – it’s historical fact.
    It’s scorned here because it doesn’t fit the “noble warrior” cliche.
    And the bottom line is, this bloke volunteered to be where he was.
    Many of the rest of us didn’t.
    It’s a very clear example of the real life consequences of pseudo macho wankery, exemplified here.

    I can only account for those which I’ve seen or read. There could be more. I remember four.

    Find them – and point out the “contradictions” – not the terminology – the factual contradictions.
    Go ahead – should keep you busy for a while….
    .

  57. MatrixTransform

    Make my day.

    wrong movie

  58. Mater

    Find them – and point out the “contradictions” – not the terminology – the factual contradictions.
    Go ahead – should keep you busy for a while….

    Before we do, you idiot. The only point in question here is whether or not he was a ‘reg’. That is not the same as a volunteer. Regulars (in Australia) have open ended engagement.

    http://catallaxyfiles.com/2014/06/16/armed-forces/#comment-1349792
    http://catallaxyfiles.com/2019/06/04/tuesday-forum-june-4-2019/comment-page-2/#comment-3034995
    http://catallaxyfiles.com/2019/07/23/tuesday-forum-july-23-2019/comment-page-3/#comment-3114404
    http://catallaxyfiles.com/2019/09/10/tuesday-forum-september-10-2019/comment-page-7/#comment-3153870

    Now that didn’t take that long.

    Notice the slow progression from:

    On April 23rd, 1970, I saw one digger in my section throw his rifle on the ground after he became disenchanted with the way we were operating (in small half-platoon patrols). He was ex-5 RAR, and a NS volunteer. I felt sorry for him at the time because 5 RAR had returned to Oz and he was posted to 7 RAR to complete the rest of his NS obligation.

    through to:

    Everything else you post here is a compensation for that fact by a burned-out superannuated ex-reg.
    I’ve seen plenty of those, including the reg who refused to assault a bunker system in April 1970, whilst the Nashos in the platoon, although we were just as terrified as he was, carried out the command.

  59. Mater

    Find them – and point out the “contradictions” – not the terminology – the factual contradictions.
    Go ahead – should keep you busy for a while….

    Before we do, you idiot. The only point in question here is whether or not he was a ‘reg’. That is not the same as a volunteer. Regulars (in Australia) have open ended engagement.

    http://catallaxyfiles.com/2019/06/04/tuesday-forum-june-4-2019/comment-page-2/#comment-3034995
    http://catallaxyfiles.com/2019/07/23/tuesday-forum-july-23-2019/comment-page-3/#comment-3114404
    http://catallaxyfiles.com/2019/09/10/tuesday-forum-september-10-2019/comment-page-7/#comment-3153870

    Now that didn’t take that long.

    Notice the slow progression from:

    On April 23rd, 1970, I saw one digger in my section throw his rifle on the ground after he became disenchanted with the way we were operating (in small half-platoon patrols). He was ex-5 RAR, and a NS volunteer. I felt sorry for him at the time because 5 RAR had returned to Oz and he was posted to 7 RAR to complete the rest of his NS obligation.

    through to:

    Everything else you post here is a compensation for that fact by a burned-out superannuated ex-reg.
    I’ve seen plenty of those, including the reg who refused to assault a bunker system in April 1970, whilst the Nashos in the platoon, although we were just as terrified as he was, carried out the command.

    And yes, there is only three links…wait out.

  60. Mater

    Find them – and point out the “contradictions” – not the terminology – the factual contradictions.
    Go ahead – should keep you busy for a while….

    Before we do, you idiot. The only point in question here is whether or not he was a ‘reg’. That is not the same as a volunteer. Regulars (in Australia) have open ended engagement.

    http://catallaxyfiles.com/2019/06/04/tuesday-forum-june-4-2019/comment-page-2/#comment-3034995
    http://catallaxyfiles.com/2019/07/23/tuesday-forum-july-23-2019/comment-page-3/#comment-3114404
    http://catallaxyfiles.com/2019/09/10/tuesday-forum-september-10-2019/comment-page-7/#comment-3153870

    Now that didn’t take that long.

    Notice the slow progression from:

    On April 23rd, 1970, I saw one digger in my section throw his rifle on the ground after he became disenchanted with the way we were operating (in small half-platoon patrols). He was ex-5 RAR, and a NS volunteer. I felt sorry for him at the time because 5 RAR had returned to Oz and he was posted to 7 RAR to complete the rest of his NS obligation.

    through to:

    Everything else you post here is a compensation for that fact by a burned-out superannuated ex-reg.
    I’ve seen plenty of those, including the reg
    who refused to assault a bunker system in April 1970, whilst the Nashos in the platoon, although we were just as terrified as he was, carried out the command.

    And yes, there is only three links…wait out.

    Much better!

  61. Mater

    Bob,
    Was the bloke in question “a burned-out superannuated ex-reg”?

  62. Mater

    Find them – and point out the “contradictions” – not the terminology – the factual contradictions

    I’ll ask again, Bob.
    Was the bloke in question “a burned-out superannuated ex-reg”?

  63. 1735099

    Before we do, you idiot. The only point in question here is whether or not he was a ‘reg’. That is not the same as a volunteer. Regulars (in Australia) have open ended engagement.

    Rubbish. All regs are volunteers unless they were pissed when they signed up.
    The only point here is whether he volunteered or not – whether he got himself into that situation by his own free will. He did. Most of the rest of us didn’t. You can call him what you like, it makes no difference.
    It seems that you (and others such as Johno) can’t grasp this simple distinction.
    It’s a fact you find quite indigestible, because you’ve been brainwashed by years of Anzackery – actually conditioning – which starts at primary school. Hence the bullshit – “All Nashos who served in Vietnam were volunteers”. That lie sat on the schools website for fifteen years. You get up my ribs about terminology. Do you know any fancy terms for lying to school children?
    You can’t stomach the fact that my report is true, despite my producing another account from someone else who witnessed it, so try to compensate by stuffing around with the nomenclature.
    It won’t wash.
    What you call him is immaterial.
    If you were to get hung up about terminology on this blog you’d go bonkers.

  64. Mater

    Rubbish. All regs are volunteers unless they were pissed when they signed up.

    Yes, but not all volunteers are Regulars.
    The more recent ‘Ready Reserve’ is another example. Open ended engagement is the distinction.

    But don’t avoid the question.
    Was the bloke in question “a burned-out superannuated ex-reg”?

    Huh, so much for being a ‘seeker of truth’!

  65. Cassie of Sydney

    “Go ahead.
    Make my day.”

    Oooh….the racist must get his morning excitement when he writes those words…..perhaps we should rename him “Dirty Bob”.

  66. Black Ball

    Good morning all.
    Popcorn is ready Mater. Have at it.

  67. 1735099

    Yes, but not all volunteers are Regulars.
    The more recent ‘Ready Reserve’ is another example. Open ended engagement is the distinction.

    Let’s have some fun with terminology.
    An “engagement” – now that’s something something that happens pre-marriage isn’t it?
    “Open-ended” – that’s keeping the ends out for the tie that binds*.
    This is fun….

    Here is a small but significant truth –
    I witnessed a soldier – reg/nasho/volunteer/conscript/legionnaire – (strike out whichever does not apply) in April 1970 refuse a lawful command. That soldier had signed on to perform the duty he was assigned. He did that of his own free will.
    The rest of us (half of who were civilians who had our birth-dates drawn out of a barrel) who did not volunteer to be in that situation, carried out that same lawful command. This was despite the fact that the majority of our cohort of young men were safely tucked up in bed back home enjoying the benefits of 1970s Oz, whilst we shouldered the political burden of keeping the Coalition in power at the risk of our lives.

    How do you feel about that small truth?
    Read about it in more detail.
    *Johnny Cash

  68. Mater

    Let’s have some fun with terminology.

    Let’s just sort out the facts, instead.
    Was the bloke in question “a burned-out superannuated ex-reg”?

  69. Mater

    Popcorn is ready Mater. Have at it.

    Done, Black Ball.
    He’s finished. He’s got nothing.
    He overreached with his bullshitting, forgot to leave his obligatory ‘out’ and now can’t pull it back. Look at him thrash around. Overconfidence and arrogance will do that.
    He wouldn’t have made good Officer. His “unsuitable” attitude was inconsequential.
    The rails of his movable goal posts only extend so far.

  70. Old School Conservative

    Apologies if already raised here.

    Congratulations to Ballarat Christian College who amended their constitution to read:
    “A marriage can only be between a male and a female, and upon this foundation alone should children be conceived and families formed”. This was written after SSM was legalised.

    BCC are of course now being pursed through the courts by activist group Equality Australia for taking this principled stand. More power to their arm.

  71. Mater

    Sorry Bob,
    Got to go out.
    If you can find a better angle in my absence, we’ll discuss it on my return.
    Have fun…make my day! 😉

  72. 1735099

    Was the bloke in question “a burned-out superannuated ex-reg”?

    From memory – he was certainly burned out. Seeing men killed and maimed does that. We all were, but we did what we were told. He didn’t.
    He wasn’t “ex” then, but for most of his life until he died a few years ago, he could have been described as such.
    Superannuated?
    Maybe.
    But like many other Vietnam vets he’s no longer alive and enjoying superannuation.
    In my book, anyone who willingly signs up (assumedly for the post discharge benefits – can’t see any other reason why you’d do that) is, by definition, a Reg. What’s that cliche about the King’s/Queen’s shilling?
    So “Yes”…..

  73. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    You might be physically normal, but based on what you come up with here, you obviously haven’t had a psych assessment. Don’t.

    Does anyone else see the irony in this remark?

  74. Mater

    In my book, anyone who willingly signs up (assumedly for the post discharge benefits – can’t see any other reason why you’d do that) is, by definition, a Reg. What’s that cliche about the King’s/Queen’s shilling?
    So “Yes”…..

    So that’s all you’ve got?
    As predicted!

    Mater
    #3154714, posted on September 13, 2019 at 1:22 pm

    Excellent get, Mater.
    Leftards (especially trolls) lie about everything all the time.

    Have no fear, Tom, he’ll be on shortly redefining what he meant by ‘Reg’. ‘Reg’ will equal ‘Volunteer’.
    Moving forward, ‘Nasho’ will be a term reserved only for conscripts.

    His goals posts are on a well greased rail system.

    Dishonest pissant!

  75. Mark A

    A lot of people who never even heard of Vietnam are dead.
    Please keep it in the realm of reality.

  76. Johno

    So,just to recap.
    He refused to go on a recce patrol.

    He refused to go on a half platoon patrol.

    He refused to assault a bunker system.

    He was a regular Army soldier

    He was a nasho.

    He was a volunteer.

    All at the same time. See, universes do overlap.

  77. 1735099

    Dishonest pissant

    Nothing like abuse when the arse falls out of your argument.
    Reporting inconvenient fact is not “lying”.
    Every National Serviceman who served in Vietnam was a volunteer.*
    You still haven’t explained what you would call that statement.
    A “lie”, perhaps?
    *Crocodile Dundee

  78. areff

    A lot of people who never even heard of Vietnam are dead.

    And a lot of people who hear far too much about Vietnam on this blog wish they were dead.

    What streak of perverse charity inspires Doomlord to indulge Numbers’ fancies, fallacies and emotional incontinence, day after day after day?

    It’s a mystery — a really annoying mystery.

    Make it stop, Doomlord. Please make it stop.

  79. Johno

    Mater you do great work.

    Could you imagine the carnage if this goose had actually become a 2LT? I think they would have sorted him out at Scheyville, the downside from that is I think failed ossifers were given a hook as a consolation prize.

  80. Knuckle Dragger

    Uh, Liability Bob?

    The person you referred to as a ‘burned out superannuated ex-reg’ in your original post was me.

    Even though I’m not burned out or superannuated just yet, you miiiiight want to rethink your last several dozen collections of mania.

    Once again, you appear to have the wrong end of the stick. You’re probably still upset from paying $15,000,000 in tax. Remember that one?

  81. Johno

    You notice how sniffy gets all abusive and macho when his bullshit is exposed?

    That may have worked in a class full of handicapped children but this is reality and you are a very disturbed,unhinged individual. Seek help sniffy,seek help.

  82. Johno

    Every nasho I ever met in the funny country was a volunteer.There is a great difference between that statement and your statement.But that’s how you roll sniffy.

    Perhaps 7RAR did not extend that courtesy to their nashos. 5RAR,6RAR and some of 8RAR did.

    Now don’t shift the argument sniffy, we are all enjoying your arse kicking on this subject.

  83. Johno

    Anyhoo, new fred .I am sure you will follow sniffy.You are driven by the mania to have the last word.

  84. Knuckle Dragger

    Well, if Liability Bob had accepted someone’s invitation to join him and several hundred associates in Canberra that time and do some of the first hand research he keeps banging on about, perhaps none of this would be necessary.

    If I remember correctly though, he wanted an apology and a guarantee of safety.

    So brave. So very brave.

  85. 1735099

    He refused to go on a recce patrol.

    He refused to go on a half platoon patrol.

    I thought you said you were a Vietnam veteran.
    Anyone who served in a rifle platoon would know that the two statements aren’t contradictory.
    To put it simply, a recce patrol does not have a set size.

    He refused to assault a bunker system.

    The patrol was clearing the system – same patrol.

    He was a regular Army soldier

    He was a nasho.

    He was a volunteer.

    He was in the army as a Nasho who volunteered. So, he was both a Nasho and a volunteer. But that probably sailed right over your head, as you clearly don’t understand the distinction. You hold on to the fantasy that all Nashos were volunteers.

    We were told over and over again that we were all “regular army soldiers” in rookies.
    But that was just the tip of the iceberg when it came to bullshit.
    The army has always been expert at bullshit.
    That’s evident when you see long term Regs posting here.
    They’re trained in it – it becomes second nature.
    They’ve lost the capacity to distinguish reality from fantasy.
    Hence the well-worn saying “Bullshit baffles brains”.

  86. Johno

    A recce patrol cleared a bunker system?? Really? I mean really?

    Did you finish basic training?

  87. stackja

    scrolling, scrolling, …

  88. MatrixTransform

    …and do some of the first hand research he keeps banging on about

    too busy with pro bono work probably

  89. MatrixTransform

    Bullshit baffles brains

    clearly not

    the only thing second nature the numptard … is bullshit

  90. Ellie

    I was in the army. Joined when I was 17. Was part of the a Battalion – the grunts. Learnt how to shoot an M16. Not sure about today, but women back then weren’t used in the front line. Our voices carry and we’re the weaker sex, so we worked in signals, or nurses or cooks.

    I remember when we were playing war games during basic training. We had to get on the big army chopper, in full kit holding our M16s. We lined up on each side and were waved on one by one. It came my turn and I froze. Was carried on by laughing blokes, put at the side of the chopper, belt on, door left open, they flew sideways to scare the sh*t out of me. Dropped us off in the middle of no where, we had to dig ditches. It was in Lake Tekapo, middle of winter, I kept warm by snuggling between two blokes. Noice.

    Back then there was alcohol at the base when we were out playing war games, practicing for the real thing. I remember getting up at 3am to get food prepped for the grunts. Staff Sgt handed me a coffee. It has loads of whiskey in it. Warmed ya up at 3am in minus 0 temps.

    I was good at marching. Was the striker. Good at ironing sharp army shirts and pants. Good at spit polishing too. We all shared our skills.

  91. Overburdened

    The weekend Oz mag is as usual a puff piece to show it’s social conscience, hipster cred and the worship of conspicuous consumption.

    An article on Byron Bay.

    I can save people being subjected to pondering about Byron.

    It is a cess pit of backpackers, chancers, fuckwits and dickheads with money that are crammed in cheek by jowl, drowning in their own shit and thinking they are living large, with a smattering of retirees on the big holiday being studiously ignored.

    Naturally, the token indig gets a run to blather on about roots and spirituality, all the while sucking on the teat.

    I quickly scan the whole paper, check the shares and then bee line to the puzzles, the only decent aspect of $3.80 unwisely spent.

  92. JC

    OB

    Byron’s beaches are unparalleled except for the Caribbean.

  93. Overburdened

    JC

    You could also cite western Malaysia, the Ryukus an some other spots.

    The beaches aren’t the problem.

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