Tuesday Forum: September 10, 2019

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  1. Empire 5:5

    45: Ted, I need that favour.
    Cruz: Yes, Mr President.
    45: Keep firearms out of the hands of wackos, but don’t fuck with 2A. Can you bring me a bill?
    Cruz: Yes Sir, I. believe I can and I’ve some casting ideas in mind I think you’re going to like..

  2. Rex Mango

    Can’t seem to link, NT Thunder leaving the NEAFL.

  3. JC

    cohenite
    #3154851, posted on September 13, 2019 at 5:34 pm

    FMD, lasted another 45 seconds before I fell to the floor: Milano to Cruz who deserves an academy award for not thumping her:

    I wanted to look you in the eye and know there was a heart beat behind those eyes.

    Keep going as Ted is superb. Ted is the most effective, persuasive senator of all.

  4. JC

    Empire

    There seem to be a lot of gaps in background checks Cruz talks about. But then, this is America and there are always gaps. It’s what made the place great. 🙂

  5. Empire

    Winston

    Yours ain’t bad either.

    I just got asked to remove it by The Doomlord.
    I’m really sorry about that – didn’t think it would offend.

  6. egg_

    Only an Aldi bag chockers full of cash can save Jacinderrrr Horseface now.

    An Aldi bag full of oats?

  7. JC

    Haven’t kept up with it, but how bad is the drought in QLD/NSW? there’s a town running out of water by Dec.

    The Queensland government will spend $800,000 a month trucking water into the parched and bushfire-ravaged town of Stanthorpe, which is forecast to run out of drinking water by December.

    Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk said the cash would pay for 34 truckloads of water a day to be carted an hour’s south from Connolly Dam, in Warwick in south-west Queensland, to Stanthorpe’s Storm King Dam.

    Winegrowers, farmers, and residents in the Granite Belt towns of Stanthorpe and Applethorpe were evacuated as the bushfires burnt through more than 4000 hectares over several days last week. Crops and homes were destroyed.

    The government had already promised to replace water from Stanthorpe’s depleted dam after some had to be taken out to fight the fires.

  8. Mater

    Bob,
    This doesn’t read like the bloke (or a Corporal) who had gone ‘Regular’. Notice the word “obligation”?
    Don’t you have any shame?
    Can’t you get your story straight?

    1735099
    #3034995, posted on June 5, 2019 at 9:53 am

    On April 23rd, 1970, I saw one digger in my section throw his rifle on the ground after he became disenchanted with the way we were operating (in small half-platoon patrols). He was ex-5 RAR, and a NS volunteer. I felt sorry for him at the time because 5 RAR had returned to Oz and he was posted to 7 RAR to complete the rest of his NS obligation. He hadn’t trained with us, and didn’t know and trust us.
    AFAIK, he was never charged. The army “vanished” him overnight, and he apparently served the remainder of his obligation in Battalion HQ.

  9. John Constantine

    ANNE WEBSTER CALLS ON SUPERVISION CHANGES TO BRING MORE DOCTORS TO MALLEE

    A Nationals MP says regulation around the supervision of overseas-trained doctors must change to help relieve the strain on medical services in rural and regional Victoria.

    The member for Mallee Anne Webster met with the federal minister for health Greg Hunt this week, and says the rules are restricting clinics from hiring more doctors.

    Anne Webster says in Melbourne there’s a doctor for every 900 people.

    “In Mallee that ratio is one to 7,487, and if that doesn’t shock us nothing will, hence the crying need I hear wherever I go across Mallee for doctors, for nurses and for primary health.

    “At this point in time, overseas-trained doctors, depending what level they’re at, need one supervisor in the practice and another two kilometres away, clearly that’s not going to be happening, so what we are doing is restricting our potential workforce.”

    Ms Webster says she’s invited Mr Hunt to visit the Mallee.

  10. The Sheriff

    https://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/australian-economy/time-to-open-your-wallet-scomo-how-australia-could-dodge-a-devastating-recession/news-story/20922d3c81d87d48ee3ac3c43ce31eb5

    Who is this Keynesian mediocrity, Jason Murphy? He believes in the delusion of “free money” and the idea that increased welfare will be beneficial for GDP. Can someone please teach him Ricardian equivalence?

    Even the byline – suggesting that Scott Morrison can make all Australians “$900 richer” as though the government just prints money out of thin air with no consequence…

  11. John Constantine

    in Melbourne there’s a doctor for every 900 people.

    “In Mallee that ratio is one to 7,487,

    Dunno if looting the third world of medical staff is the way to get healthcare to the Mallee.

    Personally, linking a medical firm’s access to the medicare pot of gold to providing a fly-in fly-out number of clinic hours out where the trains don’t run would be a cheap way of improving things, without importing third worlders and denying them freedom of internal movement.

    Even running light aircraft on a fixed schedule out doing dropoffs of medicos to places a few hours drive from the city– one early monday morning, one late wednesday night.

    Work twelve or so hours a day for three days, generate tens of thousands in fees for only two sleeps out in the horrors of being three and four hundred kilometers away from the city.

  12. calli

    Australia is hurtling towards a devastating recession and there’s one thing Scott Morrison could do to save us all — and make us all $900 richer.

    What an interesting figure, straight from the earwax eater.

    And down the throats of the pokies, flat screen vendors and every grifter hawking the latest cheap Chinese shyte.

    Don’t these clowns ever learn?

  13. Roger

    Haven’t kept up with it, but how bad is the drought in QLD/NSW?

    Very bad in SE QLD; not as bad as the Millennium drought on paper but the country around my rural retreat on the Darling Downs is just as dry as then.

    NSW is reportedly worse.

  14. John Constantine

    https://www.news.com.au/national/the-australian-towns-facing-a-looming-day-zero-crisis/news-story/afd564ca4c78fa7a50db7f02b77d72cd

    Tenterfield in the state’s north is at the epicentre of the crisis, with the town’s dam sitting at a precarious 32 per cent and a single bore struggling to supplement the supply.

    “We pump that bore for two days and then give it a spell for a few days, to let it replenish, and in those two days, it puts roughly a day’s use back into the dam,” Tenterfield Shire Council Mayor Peter Petty said.

    “I’m no mathematician but to me that’s going out the back. It won’t last.

    From news.com.au

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    “Our concern is that if the bore sh*ts itself, we’re buggered. It’ll be 200 days left of water and we don’t want that to happen.”

    Just across the border in Queensland, Stanthorpe could reach its day zero by Christmas, with nearby Warwick at risk of running dry in 17 months’ time.

    “This is the worst drought we’ve ever had in our region and it’s really biting hard,” Southern Downs Regional Council Mayor Tracy Dobie said.

  15. calli

    And that was back when there was a bit of money in the bank. Didn’t take that glib creature long to plunder what little was there.

  16. John Constantine

    Takes a lot of water to run some mines, the prospects for some mining operations out in isolated NSW are challenging.

  17. Roger

    Australia is hurtling towards a devastating recession and there’s one thing Scott Morrison could do to save us all — and make us all $900 richer.

    Why just a one off $900 payment?

    Why not $900 a month?

    Imagine the prosperity that will flow!

  18. Calli:

    Australia is hurtling towards a devastating recession and there’s one thing Scott Morrison could do to save us all — and make us all $900 richer.

    Notice how a 10% tax rate cut never seems to enter their pointy little heads?
    And yet, if Morrison wanted to stay in power perpetually, an abolition of PAYE taxes, linked to a 5% raise in the GST would keep him power forever.
    He would need to increase the OAP, but the rest left alone.

  19. bundyrum

    What about the desal plant on the Gold Coast, not working?

  20. 1735099

    Can’t you get your story straight?

    Scroll up.
    You’ll note that I said he was a NS volunteer, which is precisely what I’ve said consistently, because it happens to be true.
    AFAIK, there’s no requirement on this site to use the same combination of words each time a particular incident is referenced.
    Are you sure you’re not a reincarnation of Torquemada?

  21. JC

    What about the desal plant on the Gold Coast, not working?

    You need to be piped up in order to access the plant, Ted you idiot.

  22. Mater

    Scroll up.
    You’ll note that I said he was a NS volunteer, which is precisely what I’ve said consistently, because it happens to be true.

    You said he went Reg’s yet say he was serving out his obligation.
    You lying dog!

  23. Diogenes

    Just across the border in Queensland, Stanthorpe could reach its day zero by Christmas, with nearby Warwick at risk of running dry in 17 months’ time.
    “This is the worst drought we’ve ever had in our region and it’s really biting hard,” Southern Downs Regional Council Mayor Tracy Dobie said.

    And what is galling is that during the last drought Stanthorpe Council wanted to scrape the sediment out of Storm King Dam, and/or raise the wall a few metres, & was prevented from doing so by that fuckwit Beattie.

    Council also had plans, and money for a dam on the Severn near Ballandean, but in that case was stymied by that fuckwit Rudd, using laws passed by Howard. That money was the excuse Beattie needed to merge it with broke Warwick Council, and was supposed to be used to run a pipe from Leslie Dam to Stanthorpe.

    So many lampposts, so few politicians (NADT)

  24. John Constantine

    http://media.bom.gov.au/social/blog/2195/the-air-above-antarctica-is-suddenly-getting-warmerheres-what-it-means-for-australia/?utm_medium=social+media&utm_source=bom-blog-edm&utm_campaign=public-weather&utm_content=blog-130919-stratosphere&fbclid=IwAR0DjGw4d8Y2gISxvZuVxhy4g4srEGlcCsi1qCiDiUrftvWffgDJ0x8G4JA

    Record warm temperatures above Antarctica over the coming weeks are likely to bring above-average spring temperatures and below-average rainfall across large parts of New South Wales and southern Queensland.

    The warming began in the last week of August, when temperatures in the stratosphere high above the South Pole began rapidly heating in a phenomenon called ‘sudden stratospheric warming’.

    In the coming weeks the warming is forecast to intensify, and its effects will extend downward to Earth’s surface, affecting much of eastern Australia over the coming months.

    We are predicting the strongest Antarctic warming on record, likely to exceed the previous record of September 2002.

  25. Empire 5:5

    Off to US for some business for a week, but managed to jag a weekend with my SF based sister in Napa. Going to drink some tannic cabernet in 34deg weather aparently. Im going to loudly and often talk about how its the great global warmenings fault. Youve got to fit in right?

    And the faeces on the street of San Francisco. And the high taxes and the appalling education outcomes. And the rule for everything. And the leprosy.

    Jerry Brown’s Corrupt Democratic California. It’s a disease that lives on with his successor.

  26. Calli:

    Tenterfield in the state’s north is at the epicentre of the crisis, with the town’s dam sitting at a precarious 32 per cent and a single bore struggling to supplement the supply.

    Barky is going the same way – the local Council wanted to put down a second bore but the State Government refuses to let it go ahead because environment.
    The chickens are coming in to roost from the governments refusal to keep up infrastructure in Rural and Outback Australia.

  27. Mother Lode

    I was watching a program the other day about the Columbine massacre.

    It was (and still is) touted of a demonstration of the need for gun control. Michael Moore did his ridiculous polemic on the understanding that it was all about guns and probably did more than anyone to cement that interpretation in the public’s mind.

    It turns out that their plan was to use bombs. They were going to blow up certain areas in the school and only use guns to pick off kids not killed by the blasts as they fled through the exits. When the explosives failed to go off it was then that they went in with guns – at the same time throwing pipe bombs only some of which went off while others didn’t.

    Point is that the fame they hoped for was for killing hundreds (with bombs), not tens (with guns).

    This does not take away from the guns debate – whether you think any guns are too many and they can be kept out of the hands of loonies this does not disprove it, and if you believe the problem is not guns but the irresponsible people who get their hands on them who can only be stopped by responsible people then this will just as well fit both ideas.

  28. John Constantine

    What can Australia expect?

    Impacts from this stratospheric warming are likely to reach Earth’s surface in the next month and possibly extend through to January.

    Apart from warming the Antarctic region, the most notable effect will be a shift of the Southern Ocean westerly winds towards the Equator.

    For regions directly in the path of the strongest westerlies, which includes western Tasmania, New Zealand’s South Island, and Patagonia in South America, this generally results in more storminess and rainfall, and colder temperatures.

    But for subtropical Australia, which largely sits north of the main belt of westerlies, the shift results in reduced rainfall, clearer skies, and warmer temperatures.

    Past stratospheric warming events and associated wind changes have had their strongest effects in NSW and southern Queensland, where springtime temperatures increased, rainfall decreased and heatwaves and fire risk rose.

    The influence of the stratospheric warming has been captured by our climate outlooks, along with the influence of other major climate drivers such as the current positive Indian Ocean Dipole, leading to a hot and dry outlook for spring.

  29. Rex Mango

    Seriously doubt too much can be predicted from sudden stratospheric warming over Antarctica, regarding weather in Australia.

  30. Oh come on

    Looks like Andrew McCabe is going to be prosecuted.

    I wonder if he’s going to cut a deal and testify against…wow. A lot of bad actors. Drip drip drip, m0nty!

  31. 1735099

    You lying dog

    OK – I can sling crap as well.
    You ignorant prick.
    You obviously don’t understand what a NS volunteer was.
    A number of nineteen year olds (God knows why) volunteered to enlist when they registered for National Service. There were at least two in my rifle platoon.
    They served in exactly the same way as other Nashos, so they an obligation to complete two years in the ARA. This particular individual, like a few others, faced with the reality that was Vietnam, lost his enthusiasm pretty quickly. I felt very sorry for them. They were used.
    Suggest you read the excellent annexe on the AWM site which goes into detail about that atrocious scheme, before you sling any more ignorant crap here.

  32. Roger

    The chickens are coming in to roost from the governments refusal to keep up infrastructure in Rural and Outback Australia.

    +100

  33. John Constantine

    The difference this year, is that big snowfalls will melt and flow into some dams, on paper more than 100% capacity is available counting the snowfields as stored water.

    Malcom Roberts is on it.

    The common sense of releasing water now, when it will still do some good, then replace it with snowmelt is Old Australia.

    Their rewilding class of ‘The Ton’s’ beautiful people will simply stall water releases until it is too late and the snowmelt is squandered.

    The clearances and the rewilding is the whole point–why stop now when they are winning?.

    Malcolm Roberts – Pauline Hanson’s One Nation
    7 hrs ·

    I have written to the Minister of Water David Littleproud requesting, no pleading for the release of 200GL of water for farmers for disaster relief.

    I have asked for a measly 5% to 7% of current reserves in the Hume and Dartmouth dams to be released for farmers in NSW and Northern Victoria.

    This water will help irrigate 400,000 hectares of wheat, wheat that probably won’t make the seasons end due to low rains and no water allocations.

    Just 200GL of this 3000GL reserve would save farms and communities who are in crisis.

    We have had record snow this season, when melted enough water will fill these reservoirs to 100% capacity. We don’t need rain to break a drought. Snow works as well.

    Let us look at what effect that has on water allocations for regular irrigated crops in the following irrigation areas.

    NSW and Victoria
    Along the Murray 0% allocation. Zero.
    Murrumbidgee 6% allocation
    Lower Darling 0% allocation. Zero.
    Lachlan, Namoi, Peel, Gwyder 0% allocation. Zero.

    Now in South Australia:
    Dairy 100%. Full allocation
    Stock 100%. Full
    Cropping 74%. ¾ full

    Can you see the problem yet? We’re sending entire communities broke in Queensland, NSW and Victoria while South Australia is swimming in fresh stuff.

    Literally. Swimming in it.

    The Lower lakes are full. The lower Murray is full.

    Recreational water flows to SA.

  34. Entropy

    ex Mango
    #3154891, posted on September 13, 2019 at 6:41 pm
    Seriously doubt too much can be predicted from sudden stratospheric warming over Antarctica, regarding weather in Australia

    You just look at all the times it has happened in the past and what then happened in Australia, and expect the same. In any case, if the wet season breaks at all, it will be late, and below average for cyclones. Which, because they will be fewer and late, will tend to be bigger.

  35. calli

    A different type of Summer.

    A Seething Summer.

  36. Mater

    You obviously don’t understand what a NS volunteer was

    I understand perfectly.
    You’ve been labelling this bloke as a ‘reg’ and then using his ’tanty’ to bad mouth professional soldiers.
    Stop squirming.

  37. John Constantine

    The S.A.M. [ southern annular mode] has a genuine impact on Australias weather and is about how Antarctica’s weather systems push around the Great Southern Ocean’s weather.

    Anybody that has watched a front hit Perth, then Adelaide, then three days later arrive at Melbourne can visualise how this works.

  38. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    They served in exactly the same way as other Nashos, so they (sic) an obligation to complete two years in the ARA.

    National Servicemen served two years in the Regular Army Supplement, not the A.R.A.

  39. egg_

    Yes re chloroplasts. In absence of another source of hydrogen, bacteria would’ve developed a metabolic pathway to extract it from water. That’s tough because busting up water is hard going (ie. without toxic pH changes). Hence use of photons to provide the necessary energy. Then someone ate a chloroplast and forgot to digest it.

    I recall a segment on Robyn 100m Williams’ Science Show a few years back when a Biologist described the symbiotics of plastids as not so friendly with their host cells – he said it was the smallest known intelligence, where if the host cell tried to destroy the plastid, the plastid would release poison – i.e. like the scorpion and the frog – you attack me and we both go down.
    Evolutionists would presumably say that this came about via pure chance over the millennia – a cover all for all scenarios.

  40. Roger

    Summer?

    ENSO is presently neutral.

    Indian Ocean Dipole is positive, which portends low rainfall.

    The Southern Annular Mode is negative, which likewise portends low rainfall.

    We’ll see…but it’s not looking promising.

  41. Rex Mango

    This sudden stratospheric warming has happened like once before in last twenty years. Just because certain weather then occurred in Australia doesn’t mean it will be the same this time.

  42. mh

    Barstool Sports
    @barstoolsports
    Joe Biden’s teeth doing their best to jump right out of his mouth
    https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1172338941862662146?s=20

  43. 1735099

    You’ve been labelling this bloke as a ‘reg’ and then using his ’tanty’ to bad mouth professional soldiers.

    Unlike most who post here, I don’t “label”.
    That’s a technique used by the simpletons who don’t have enough functioning synapses to analyse.
    I described what happened. I was there.
    You can place any interpretation you want on his behaviour.

    From the excellent article by Sue Langford on the AWM website –

    Young men who had reached the age of eighteen years and nine months, and men aged twenty who had been granted indefinite deferment or exemption, could volunteer for national service.

  44. egg_

    The chickens are coming in to roost from the governments refusal to keep up infrastructure in Rural and Outback Australia.

    Breathtaking arrogance from Beattie and Krudd.

  45. egg_

    A different type of Summer.

    It’s always a Hot, Angry Summer with bushfires thrown in for free.

    But then the Greens have us with less efficient air conditioning refrigerants, but smart meters will probably turn them off during peak conditions to save our gold plated grid.
    Comrade.

  46. Rex Mango

    A useful purpose for all the windmills built recently rather than producing electricity, would be to pump water to remote regions.

  47. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘NS volunteer’

    The traitorous bastard.

    If what you say is true, Old Yeller.

    Which it isn’t. Of course, and to give you an out from the latest corner you’ve painted yourself into, you would have been wearing your metaphorical hat when you said that. Once again.

    Now your former colleagues, those worthy of respect are giggling at you as well. Way to retain credibility, Liability Bob.

    NB: No-one expects the Spanish Inquisition.

  48. Rex Mango

    ABC RN right now promoting hashtag movement to stop Taylor Swift singing at Melbourne Cup due animal welfare.

  49. Entropy

    Quite so Roger, and even though ENSO is neutral, northern Australia sea surface temps are largely below average. Thus we will have a bloody great high pressure system parked over us and even the amajO will be pathetic. The October passage will probably bring dry electrical storms and set off another round of bushfires.

    So every setting is for low rainfall, low humidity, and higher than average temps for the next four or five months.

  50. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Young men who had reached the age of eighteen years and nine months, and men aged twenty who had been granted indefinite deferment or exemption, could volunteer for national service.’

    Don’t besmirch the author of that piece. YOU said he was ‘a reg’.

  51. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘I don’t “label”‘

    Next sentence:

    ‘the simpletons’

  52. mh

    Kamala looks tipsy

    ABC News
    @ABC
    Sen. Kamala Harris: “People asked me in El Paso…do you think Trump is responsible for what happened? And I said, ‘Well, look, obviously he didn’t pull the trigger, but he’s certainly been tweeting out the ammunition.”
    https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1172315106476089344?s=20

  53. Entropy

    On the bright side of a sudden stratospheric warming episode, there will be no hole in the ozone layer this year.

    So, uncooperative SOI, bad IOD, bad SAM, scary SSW, IPO negative, cats and dogs living together, low rainfall and high temps will suck, but at least it will greatest summer at the beach eva!

  54. Farmer Gez

    Two days ago on the morning weather report from the BoM.

    Mildura could hit 35 by next Thursday.

    “We’re all doomed I tells ya”.

    Today’s forecast for Thursday. A very seasonal 31 for Mildura before a change that drops it to a low 20’s the next day.

  55. Knuckle Dragger

    On a related topic:

    24 hours, and my carrots haven’t sprouted.

    They must be retarded in some way.

  56. 1735099

    If what you say is true, Old Yeller.

    Which it isn’t. Of course, and to give you an out from the latest corner you’ve painted yourself into, you would have been wearing your metaphorical hat when you said that. Once again.

    So I’ve conspired with Bruce Ravenscroft to make up bullshit?
    You’re full of it.
    Go away.

  57. 2dogs

    Gladys Liu is the Craig Thomson of the LNP.

    What crime has Gladys Liu committed?

  58. egg_

    The reddish-brown cap of the north pole of Charon is composed of tholins, organic macromolecules that may be essential ingredients of life. These tholins were produced from methane, nitrogen and related gases released from the atmosphere of Pluto and transferred over 19,000 km (12,000 mi) to the orbiting moon.[10]

    /Birdy

  59. Knuckle Dragger

    Old Yeller, this morning:

    ‘I’ll keep fighting for that.’

    As a volunteer, or do you have another genius plan up your sleeve to fail at that too?

    ‘I ended up in the Army to do a job, not get a job’

    Your views on professional soldiery are well known.

  60. John Constantine:

    The difference this year, is that big snowfalls will melt and flow into some dams, on paper more than 100% capacity is available counting the snowfields as stored water.

    So, are you saying that the dams (The ones that matter) are full and the authorities won’t release it to grow crops now? And that they know very well this summer, the snow melt will refill the dams if the water is released? And that the snowmelt will have to be run off into the Murray/Darling out to sea because the dams are full?
    If so, this is treasonous, economy wrecking behaviour.

  61. Knuckle Dragger

    And Ravenscroft didn’t make the distinction.

    That was all you, Liability Bob.

  62. egg_

    Gladys Liu’s association with Chinese figures who were deemed a security risk was the subject of an ASIO investigation even before she entered Parliament or became a Liberal Party candidate.

    Were they keeping an eye on Shanghai Sam?

  63. egg_

    Gemma Arterton on 7Flix tonight.
    /Community Service Announcement

  64. Arky

    Mater, when you have finished your sport here tonight I have a rainwater tank full of fish at home here you might enjoy shooting.

  65. egg_

    You’re suffering from the symptoms of tertiary leftism

    Brilliant!

    That is the stage where they grow apoplectically angry at someone they believe has moved into their home, although they never see them, convinced that this other person keeps hiding their things.

    The parents next door tend to worry, but the kids giggle at the funny man whose voice rises to a crescendo promising ‘a bloody hiding’ for ‘you bloody bastard’.

  66. Mater

    They served in exactly the same way as other Nashos, so they an obligation to complete two years in the ARA

    So if volunteering for NS makes him a ‘reg’ in your book, what was this bullshit all about?

    He was in the army because he was called up (hence a Nasho), but signed up as a Reg when he was promised promotion.
    A (very) few did this.
    I was asked to do so by my Coy commander a few days prior to RTA, but took great satisfaction in telling him that I was of sound mind, and would have to be crazy to do that.
    All Nashos were asked the same question. Nobody in my platoon took the offer up.</blockquote>

  67. Knuckle Dragger

    A minute’s silence at the G tonight pre Cats v Wet Toast Powerade.

    For Danny Frawley. Which is certainly okay, since Spud spent his entire adult life around the game at the highest levels.

    My only concern is that the poor Joe Average punters out there thinking of doing the same will get it in their heads that they will all be celebrated in like manner after they’re gone. Which, of course, they won’t.

  68. Arky

    since Spud spent his entire adult life around the game at the highest levels.

    ..
    And I thought I had wasted my life…

  69. Roger

    So every setting is for low rainfall, low humidity, and higher than average temps for the next four or five months.

    And, if so, likely no prospect of significant rainfall for the hot,wet summer/mild, dry winter zone of the central/northern east coast and hinterland until summer 2021. Short of a major east coast low, that is. Nature can surprise.

  70. egg_

    2050: How Earth Changed, is dedicated to the ‘biggest crisis facing our planet’ – climate change. The United Nations estimates that of all those displaced by climate change, 80 percent are women.

    Is someone running a book on this crap?

  71. Entropy

    egg_
    #3154934, posted on September 13, 2019 at 7:39 pm
    Gemma Arterton on 7Flix tonight.
    /Community Service Announcement

    My son has watched that many, many times. Bloody gamer.

  72. Roger

    The United Nations estimates that of all those displaced by climate change, 80 percent are women.

    Are they suggesting men are more apt to adapt?

  73. Entropy

    So, are you saying that the dams (The ones that matter) are full and the authorities won’t release it to grow crops now? And that they know very well this summer, the snow melt will refill the dams if the water is released? And that the snowmelt will have to be run off into the Murray/Darling out to sea because the dams are full?
    If so, this is treasonous, economy wrecking behaviour

    Winston, Hume dam is at 42%. I think Mr Roberts is making a big call.

  74. Knuckle Dragger

    The Cats have three goals in nine minutes.

    ‘But but… muh home ground advantage’

  75. Entropy

    Are they suggesting men are more apt to adapt

    Nah, all the men except those that look like Brad a Pitt were wiped out during the Great Hillary Clinton Presidency of 2017- 2048.

  76. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Immigration are working with police after 39 people including more than 20 MOTHERS were charged over an alleged daycare fraud syndicate masterminded by an Iraqi refugee

    Red Roses Family Day Care allegedly operated to scam government subsidies
    Members are accused of pretending to look after each others’ children
    They allegedly used photos of kids, mocked-up play areas, and fake rosters
    Police smashed it and have arrested dozens of people allegedly involved
    22 people were charged on Thursday – on top of 17 earlier this year

    Daily Mail.

  77. 1735099

    What was this bullshit all about

    Except it’s not bullshit.
    Thousands of young men were betrayed by a cynical Coalition government.
    Those most egregiously treated were the volunteers who believed what they were told about saving the Vietnamese from Communism.
    At least most of the Nashos had no illusions.
    They were then betrayed on RTA by being blamed for the debacle.
    Labor should apologise for the way they were treated on return, and the Coalition for sending them in the first place. A bipartisan apology (as the Kiwis did in 2006) would be a step towards towards healing.
    Soon it will be too late. Average age is 70 plus.
    Truth, justice and reconciliation will, in the end, prevail.

  78. Tel

    The United Nations estimates that of all those displaced by climate change, 80 percent are women.

    One man, his wife, their two daughters and his mother moved house because they were worried about climate change.

  79. notafan

    I wonder how long these bozos thought their scam would last?

    I’m guessing forever.

    I bet they got done through some sort of statistical analysis.

    Too many clustered rebates.

    As I said before someone, possibly Latham, called out the oversupply in a couple of postcodes a couple of years ago.

    more on red roses

  80. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Except it’s not bullshit’

    Look, it probably is bullshit, but if that’s your broader point then just stick to that.

    Ultimately it doesn’t matter (for your purposes) whether it’s bullshit or not, because you’ve slathered your original point with eighteen inches’ worth of pure, weapons-grade bullshit about your personal endeavours, which are (as amply demonstrated by others) easily thrown in the fire.

    Then you make things worse for yourself by overreaching and thus making yourself vulnerable to other people who had also been there and done that, and that also know about the other crap you go on with.

    Everybloodything relates to ten months of your life 50 years ago. God.

  81. Mater

    Good avoidance, Bob.

    He was in the army because he was called up (hence a Nasho), but signed up as a Reg when he was promised promotion.

    By saying this, you are admitting that as a volunteer NS, he wasn’t a ‘reg’.

    And clearly he hadn’t actually ‘signed up as a Reg when he was promised promotion’ because you said this:

    On April 23rd, 1970, I saw one digger in my section throw his rifle on the ground after he became disenchanted with the way we were operating (in small half-platoon patrols). He was ex-5 RAR, and a NS volunteer. I felt sorry for him at the time because 5 RAR had returned to Oz and he was posted to 7 RAR to complete the rest of his NS obligation. He hadn’t trained with us, and didn’t know and trust us.

    As a Reg, he would no longer have had an “NS obligation” to serve out in Bn HQ.
    You’ve tied yourself in knots with your dishonesty and redefinitions. Now you’re trying to change the subject and revert to an appeal for sympathy.

  82. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    . A bipartisan apology (as the Kiwis did in 2006) (sic)would be a step towards towards healing.

    29 May 2008
    Ministerial Statement to Parliament – Crown apology to Viet Nam veterans

    Helen Clark

    Prime Minister

    The Crown formally acknowledges the dedicated service of the New Zealand Regular Force personnel deployed during the Viet Nam War, and those many servicemen and women who supported them in their mission.

    Further the Crown records that those armed forces personnel loyally served at the direction of the New Zealand Government of the day, having left their home shores against a background of unprecedented division and controversy over whether or not New Zealand should participate in the war.

    The Crown extends to New Zealand Viet Nam Veterans and their families an apology for the manner in which their loyal service in the name of New Zealand was not recognised as it should have been, when it should have been, and for inadequate support extended to them and their families after their return home from the conflict.

    The Viet Nam War was a defining event in New Zealand’s recent history, and one during which significant divisions and tensions emerged within our own society. Old allegiances and alliances were tested, and New Zealanders began to question the role their country was playing in global affairs.

    On all sides, strong views were held with conviction. My own party, the New Zealand Labour Party opposed New Zealand involvement in the war, and acted immediately to withdraw the troops on election to office in 1972.

  83. notafan

    100 child care fraud syndicates in Sydney alone costing $750 million a year.

    Bet a few people are booking flights to Lebanon ATM.

    Those beka valley mansions don’t look after themselves

    Who needs a drug importation business when he government makes it so darn easy?

    Family Day care needs to be shut down completely.

  84. Knuckle Dragger

    Five poles for Mitch Marsh. Poms gorn for 294 – not a terrible result for bowling first and grassing catches.

    On the upside, it’s twelve minutes until the ranga houso flog makes another duck.

  85. Knuckle Dragger

    If you’d done your two years in minimum security like a man, Liability Bob, we wouldn’t be having these discussions and you could look at yourself in the mirror.

    All the rest of this is overcompensating.

  86. Geriatric Mayfly

    Saw a snap of Mugabe’s coffin being offloaded in Harare. There was a big arrow on the front pointing up. Obviously a graphic for the baggage handlers not to tip the decaying old coot onto the tarmac.

  87. Nob

    Tel
    #3154956, posted on September 13, 2019 at 8:16 pm
    The United Nations estimates that of all those displaced by climate change, 80 percent are women.
    .

    And the other 20% are equally split between the other 99 gender possibilities?
    https://www.christian.org.uk/news/bbc-tells-kids-there-are-more-than-100-gender-identities/

    Yet somehow the boats are full of men.

  88. 1735099

    Now you’re trying to change the subject.

    What subject?
    You are tying yourself in knots.
    My point is very simple.
    Australian soldiers were betrayed by political cynicism.
    Some of them reacted against this cynicism.
    I saw it first hand.
    Nasho/Reg – it doesn’t matter.
    They were shamefully used.
    That’s historical fact.
    Get over it.

  89. areff

    There was a big arrow on the front pointing up.

    Accidents happen. Iranians dropped the Ayatollah’s corpse face-first onto the road amid scenes of crushing grief.

    New York Post headline: ‘Khomeini Bites the Dust’

  90. Mater

    Nasho/Reg – it doesn’t matter.

    Good.
    Now you can stop reciting that fucking story!

  91. Knuckle Dragger

    Aaaaaaaaaaaaaand back to Communism.

  92. Knuckle Dragger

    Come on Stuart Broad…..

  93. calli

    New York Post headline: ‘Khomeini Bites the Dust’

    True story? 🤣

  94. Oh come on

    So what is everyone chatting about today?

  95. Farmer Gez

    Warner gone again.

    Is it wrong to enjoy his dismissals?

  96. Knuckle Dragger

    HAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!

    D. Warner. Caught Bairstow b Archer. 5.

    Oh my God. An Albo-style therapeutic massage, and my day’s complete.

    His bat sponsor, Spartan just called and want their money back.

  97. mh

    Warner out for 5.

    Ian Chappell give yourself an uppercut.

  98. Exit Stage Right

    Terrible ball.
    Warner had no need to play.
    F**k off ya loser!

  99. zyconoclast

    Lewis Hamilton Urges Fans To Ditch ‘Barbaric’ Leather: Shares Footage

    Vegan Formula 1 champion Lewis Hamilton has shared graphic footage of the leather industry with his almost 13 million Instagram followers.

    LEWIS HAMILTON LEATHER JACKET $160
    Made using 100% Pure Napa Leather,

    LEWIS HAMILTON FOOTBALL JACKET $600.00
    100% leather.

    He also has LH branded leather boots

  100. mh

    Roosters already even money to win the NRL Premiership.

    And we’re only 40 minutes into finals footy.

  101. Knuckle Dragger

    That’s different, zyco.

    It’s carbon-offset leather.

  102. Oh come on

    I wonder if anyone has a record of military service they’d like to share? In…oh, I don’t know…a SE Asian country, perhaps? You know, that general part of the world. That would be interesting and something that’s never discussed.

    If such a person exists, it would be even better if they explained their dissatisfaction with their service at inordinate length.

  103. areff

    True story?

    Yep! Post liked to have fun with unsympathetic characters. When Hirohito died, they carted him off in this amazing rolling hearse.

    ‘A hearse is a hearse, of course, unless the hearse is the famous Hiro dead’ (caption not a headline)

    And when Generoso Pope died, owner of supermarket tabloids, the headline was

    ‘National Enquirer owner goes to meet with Elvis’ — elvis sightings being a staple of his rags.

    Anyway, the Post’s non-Murdoch owner at the time (during the years he was forced to offload it) got stroppy about making fun of the late emperor and ordered that obits have regulation boring heads.

    So a week or two later, a stupid seal in Central Park Zoo jumped into the pool when there was no water in it and died.

    Post’s respectable page-3 headline: ‘Vale Biff, dead at six’

  104. egg_

    Lewis Hamilton Urges Fans To Ditch ‘Barbaric’ Leather: Shares Footage

    Go woke – go broke!
    /BoN

  105. zyconoclast

    notafan
    #3154983, posted on September 13, 2019 at 8:57 pm
    clusters of fraudulent child care centres closed down

    Unless they shut down the CCC subsidies completely the fraud will continue.

  106. Twostix

    wonder if anyone has a record of military service they’d like to share? In…oh, I don’t know…a SE Asian country, perhaps? You know, that general part of the world. That would be interesting and something that’s never discussed.

    They can start by apologising for losing. The shame their fathers felt!

  107. egg_

    There was a big arrow on the front pointing up.

    Accidents happen. Iranians dropped the Ayatollah’s corpse face-first onto the road amid scenes of crushing grief.

    New York Post headline: ‘Khomeini Bites the Dust’

    Waste of a good bike rack?

  108. Twostix

    What exactly is the fraud with the childcare centee thing?

    That they looked after their own children?

    What difference does it make who gets the money?

  109. Knuckle Dragger

    Jesus Christ.

    Harris, I love ya like a brother from another mother, but for the love of God son you need a spell.

  110. notafan

    There were no children being cared for

    Except on paper.

  111. Oh come on

    clusters of fraudulent child care centres closed down

    Lots in the Bankstown/Liverpool area, you say? What could this mean??

  112. mh

    Australia now relying on Smithy.

    Didn’t see that coming.

  113. Armadillo

    The original Khomani had a missing finger. The one who arrived in Tehran had all his fingers.

    Thanks be to Allah. And the French.

  114. Knuckle Dragger

    Right this second, someone at Cricket Australia is ringing up Joe Burns and asking if he’s changed his shirt size, and would he like an extra jumper for the Hobart Test.

  115. Frank

    Accidents happen. Iranians dropped the Ayatollah’s corpse face-first onto the road amid scenes of crushing grief.

    New York Post headline: ‘Khomeini Bites the Dust’

    Seem to remember some story about how the locals would have made off with bits of him as religious relics if they hadn’t been subdued somehow.

  116. notafan

    Exactly zyco

    Low trust peeps in a high trust society.

    This lot were about to add NDIS to the mix.

    I’m going to go all in and suggest most of the same people were on Centrelink and not declaring their ‘family day care’ ‘income’ either.

    It was just another nice big cash hand out.

  117. zyconoclast

    What exactly is the fraud with the childcare centee thing?

    That they looked after their own children?

    What difference does it make who gets the money?

    It started out as someone else’s money. That is bad enough
    They were getting paid to look after children they were not looking after.

  118. Sinclair Davidson

    Warner out for 5.

    So no.2 son has been telling me how poorly Warner has been batting. BUT he reckons that Warner is good enough as a fielder to hold his spot in the team. I’m not sure about that. What is the collective opinion?

  119. Oh come on

    There were no children being cared for

    Really? I thought it was a double dipping thing.

  120. areff

    Give Warner am ayatollah’s funeral and be done with him.

  121. notafan

    Oco

    It’s mystery wrapped in a

    No it’s not

    Waiting to see if there are Melbourne based mirror age cases

    I’d get rid of the lot.

    Up the FBT to all parents of pre school kids and forgot about child care rebates of any kind

    People can do the math of stay home or work.

    United voice can shrivel up and die.

  122. Oh come on

    Yes, that’s the one, Nota. Collect as much welfare as possible (husband and wife with kids plus three ‘single parent households’), then run a ‘daycare’ whereby one or some of the ‘single mothers’ takes care of the kids. That’d add up to a pretty hefty sum, wouldn’t it?

  123. zyconoclast

    Low trust peeps in a high trust society.

    Talking to a sub continental (good) bloke.

    He is amazed at how easily our systems are set up and defrauded by those of middle eastern and south Asian types.

    I said the system is designed to be defrauded.
    Get lots of diversity hires who pass on the inside tips to those on the outside.

    I and not convinced this is accidental and that lazy bureaucrats on the public service and insurance companies didn’t know what was going to happen.

  124. notafan

    Nope.

    A plain and simple paper fraud.

    Everybody involved got a piece of the action.

  125. zyconoclast

    So no.2 son has been telling me how poorly Warner has been batting. BUT he reckons that Warner is good enough as a fielder to hold his spot in the team. I’m not sure about that. What is the collective opinion?

    Warner should have been dropped for this test.

    Do not replace him Kawaja.

  126. Leigh Lowe

    Is it duck season for free-kick king J Selwood at the ‘G tonight?
    No TV coverage in the Outer Hebrides.

  127. Frank

    Speaking of cane toads from days gone by, apparently finalising the doctorate right now.

  128. mizaris

    Warner is, and was, always about Warner. He’s a selfish twat and he’s getting his comeuppance now.

  129. notafan

    That’s another variation oco

    Government changed the rules a few years ago so that you can’t run a family day care and have your children at a different Family Day care

    So they changed it up.

  130. Knuckle Dragger

    Warner, up until the Saffie unpleasantness had a permanent spot at mid on. This is the final hand the pill goes through before it gets returned to the bowler, and is usually the one reserved for the bloke who shines the ball the most.

    Post exposure as a cheat, instead of just being a mouthy ranga midget flog he was moved to first slip. Hasn’t dropped any this series I can recall (happy to be proved wrong) and had a blinder two Tests ago where he took four really good ones in an innings. Mind you, that’s expected from a slipper.

    You can have a passenger acting as a specialist fielder in 20/20, and sometimes in one day matches. But you can’t have someone in just for his fielding prowess in Test cricket. Been tried before and failed every time.

  131. Twostix

    There were no children being cared for

    Except on paper.

    From what I read they all have kids. The “fraud” is that they didn’t drop them off at the fake daycare and instead kept them at home and looked after them themselves.

    So what’s the difference?

    The problem, we’re told, isn’t that they took the money – which is showered on all parents with no means test, no it’s that they didn’t hand over their children.

    And so we see the truth of that little program and the moral bankruptcy of so many “parents”.

  132. Sinclair Davidson

    But you can’t have someone in just for his fielding prowess in Test cricket.

    That’s my gut feeling – with the exception of specialist bowlers and the wicky (even then the wicky is expected to bat) – everyone should be good at something and then fielding.

  133. Oh come on

    Let’s see…parent allowance x4 plus one DSP (or Newstart if an amateur) plus maximum Family Tax Benefit x4 plus subsidised housing x4 plus funding to run a home daycare for the combined group = an absolute shitload!

  134. Oh come on

    So they changed it up.

    But of course!

  135. Leigh Lowe

    So no.2 son has been telling me how poorly Warner has been batting. BUT he reckons that Warner is good enough as a fielder to hold his spot in the team. 

    Reminds me years ago when Beefy Botham was going strong, and the debate was about who was the best all-rounder ever … Beefy or Garfield Sobers.
    Went to a sportsmens night with Sobers as guest speaker.
    Someone asked him who was the best all-rounder of all time.
    The answer?
    Mike Brearley.
    Collective Huh? from the audience.
    “Well”, drawled Sobers,”He’s Cap’n and he fields.”

  136. mizaris

    Family Day care needs to be shut down completely.

    How about……..how about mothers who stay home to raise their children at least until the kids are school age. Nah….too revolutionary…it would never work.

  137. calli

    There seems to be some sort of similarity amongst the childcare fraudsters. Something oddly familiar about their names.

    I just can’t quite put my finger on it.

  138. Geriatric Mayfly

    Well the fraudsters are now in the hands of the ‘receivers.’ Wonder how many cents in the dollar the taxpayer will get for this failed enterprise.

  139. Oh come on

    There seems to be some sort of similarity amongst the childcare fraudsters. Something oddly familiar about their names.

    Yes, that’s exactly what I was getting at, Calli. And they keep being shut down in the same cluster of suburbs. Must be a coincidence.

  140. Knuckle Dragger

    Steve Smith started his international career as a specialist fielder in 20/20s.

    Short leg, under the lid is a specialist position, as are first and second slips, gully and potentially cover. Bob Simpson, Mark Taylor, Graeme Smith were great first slippers – but were all openers too.

    The first slip looks at the ball coming out of the bowler’s hand. Second slip, because of the greater angle looks at the outside edge of the bat and has to anticipate the shot a bit more*. And take better catches.

    *25 years at second slip. Clear conflict of interest.

  141. calli

    Being paid taxpayer’s money to deliver a non-existent service?

    Nothing wrong with that. Nothing at all.

  142. eam

    I could never understand why the cost of childcare was not a legitimate tax deduction.

  143. notafan

    Twostix you are leaving out the prime movers who were pocketing at least 30,000 a week from the fraud, no different to getting the dole when you are actually working

    But i see your point and really the access to the money/care even for non working parents is ridiculous.

    The entire government scheme should be shut down and paid child care should be entirely between a private provider and parents.

  144. Twostix

    They were getting paid to look after children they were not looking after.

    The government pays parents a minimum of $7500 per child per year (non means tested) to get them not to look after their children.

    That is literally the point of the childcare rebate scheme.

    The entire thing is corrupt.

  145. Knuckle Dragger

    Mike Brierly. Gawd.

    The specialist captain. Except he was shit at it.

  146. Sinclair Davidson

    I could never understand why the cost of childcare was not a legitimate tax deduction.

    Hmmmmmm. Not convinced. Having kids is a private choice and a private cost.

  147. notafan

    Won’t make it tax deductible because that would be bad.

    And unfair to low income earners something something.

  148. Geriatric Mayfly

    How about……..how about mothers who stay home to raise their children at least until the kids are school age. Nah….too revolutionary…it would never work.

    All I can see after a comment like that is a blur of hairy legs as every dismal feminist in the land runs for a safe space.

  149. Knuckle Dragger

    The Powerade’s kicking in for Wet Toast.

  150. Leigh Lowe

    Second slip, because of the greater angle looks at the outside edge of the bat and has to anticipate the shot a bit more*. And take better catches.

    Some days you can see the stitches on the seam and read “kookaburra” as it slowly rotates towards you.
    Other days it is a red blur.

  151. notafan

    And there are many other private costs that relate indirectly to employment.

    Travel to and from work.

    Eating food at work.

    Pandora’s Box.

  152. Armadillo

    The real crime here is that the scam passed multiple Government checks.

    It’s gone through various Departments to be verified and checked on. It’s taxpayers money.

    The bigger question remains.

  153. egg_

    Being paid taxpayer’s money to deliver a non-existent service?

    What of the what must be a plethora of loss-making business fronts for the permanent residency rackett?
    The largely unfilled formerly #1 chain motel in rural Oz with NAZI style customer service?
    Anecdotal bottle shops closed more often than open, etc.

  154. egg_

    NAZI style customer service

    John Cleese style, where customers are a hindrance.

  155. Twostix

    Nearly every single family we know including ones with stay at home mums dump kids in daycare and collect the childcare rebate.

    It’s the most anti-family corrupting influence in our entire society.

    I’m pleased these muzzies have taken it to its logical end and we now see what it really is: the government is paying you to hand over your baby.

    And all it cost them was a measly 7k.

  156. Overburdened

    Gee this is a long thread.

    Maybe it’s The Thread.

  157. notafan

    Like I said better to give everyone $5000 a year per child and let them decide to stay at home or go to work.

    Gets rid of a huge government administration apparatus at the same time.

    They could call it something like

    Child endowment.

    Or better still give it as a
    tax rebate to the main bread winner.

  158. Sinclair Davidson

    Maybe it’s The Thread.

    This is nothing. In the old days the threads of doom used crash computers.

  159. Knuckle Dragger

    Up until the mid-80s wicketkeepers were specialists. Most came in at No. 11 and were dead set spuds with bat in hand.

    R.W. Marsh could bat a little bit, and then Jeff Dujon from the Windies sparked a few up when he batted in the middle order.

    Then, of course, Gilchrist wandered in and blew the roof off the whole thing. Now, if your keeper doesn’t bat at 7 or higher they’re on the scrap heap.

  160. Twostix

    Also exactly zero of these muziie mothers aregoing to see prison.

    One or two of the ring leader men will see 12 months or so.

    This is all bluster.

  161. Sinclair Davidson

    Then, of course, Gilchrist wandered in and blew the roof off the whole thing.

    Yes – When I came to Australia I expected wickies to be useless with the bat. But Baroness Doom pointed to Austalian wickies as being reasonably good.

    I loved Gilchrist as a player.

  162. Oh come on

    But i see your point and really the access to the money/care even for non working parents is ridiculous.

    It really is easy for a parent to meet the threshold for maximum funding for childcare. You can book hours ‘looking for work’, ‘voluntary work’ and ‘unpaid carer’ – you may have to spend a couple of hours a week making sure the near-full time hours you’re logging on paper will check out if anyone looks.

    The problem is that Gillard wildly overprofessionalised the childcare industry. If you need childcare, what you want is an older lady down your street who is responsible, knows how to handle kids and has a bit of space for them to run and stuff for them to play with.

  163. Sinclair Davidson

    Also exactly zero of these muziie mothers are going to see prison.

    Sending women with young children to prison is always and everywhere a public relations disaster.

  164. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Sending women with young children to prison is always and everywhere a public relations disaster.’

    First World human shields.

  165. calli

    What is this “childcare” of which you speak?

    It’s Early Education, I’ll have you know.

    Complete with “Progress Reports” and a mortar board and robes graduation at completion.

    The greed and duplicity of the scam is only trumped by its silliness.

  166. Sinclair Davidson

    First World human shields.

    Not quite.

    The Apartheid state had this problem when they started sending women to prison for “illegally” employing maids to look after their children.

  167. Tel

    It’s the most anti-family corrupting influence in our entire society.

    I’m pleased these muzzies have taken it to its logical end and we now see what it really is: the government is paying you to hand over your baby.

    And all it cost them was a measly 7k.

    Correct … diversity is our strength. White people are perhaps a little to well socialized to see these pranks being played on them, while the brown people understand why their family is valuable and why they should always be suspicious of a deal too good to be true.

    I’ll give extra points if one of these families fronts up to Snowcone on national TV and declares, “You didn’t seriously expect us to give up our own children! Did you?!?”

  168. Armadillo

    Try and set up child care centre. See how you go with it. The mind boggles at the amount of regulations you would have to comply with. Let’s start with a simple one. Working with kids. A bus driver or volunteer can’t go near a “little person” without paying a fee for the Government to examine you. Criminal record, background check and so on. Fair enough. Everyone wants their kid to be safe.

    What the hell happened here? Are they seriously saying all these “child carers” outright lied about what they were really up to?

  169. Tel

    Having kids is a private choice and a private cost.

    You seem to have forgotten that those kids belong to the state.

  170. Twostix

    Sending women with young children to prison is always and everywhere a public relations disaster.

    They might if it were one or two.

    Large organised cohesive groups are a safe place from the government.

    Atomised individuals are easy pickings.

  171. Sinclair Davidson

    You seem to have forgotten that those kids belong to the state.

    Yes. Sorry. What was I thinking?

  172. Oh come on

    Complete with “Progress Reports” and a mortar board and robes graduation at completion.

    Reading the ‘professional observations’ is often a good laugh.

    ‘Little Freddy picked up the ball. He said “gurgle gurgle gurgle” and smiled. Then Susie chased him and they laughed.’

    – Australian Bullshit Educational Standard achieved, 21.347: child will interact with others and share familiar objects

  173. calli

    You seem to have forgotten that those kids belong to the state.

    It takes a village to raise a child.

    H. Clinton

    But I believe she stole it. Of course.

  174. Armadillo

    It would be interesting to see the references provided to the Government department to pass this scam in the first place.

  175. Armadillo

    Persons of good character and so on.

  176. Rafe Champion

    Germany going into recession? Could be the power prices.

  177. Armadillo

    The mind boggles at how many hoops these people must have jumped through.

  178. Arky

    Three years old, but some interesting graphics:


  179. Oh come on

    I don’t know how much time childcare workers spend making, recording and videoing those pointless ‘professional observations’ that no parent gives a rat’s about, but it’s a *lot* of time.

  180. Hazmatic

    Not all of these were Infantry, Engineers, or Armoured Corps, where the bulk of Nashos were at the sharp end. I’d guess between a half and a third in those corps were Nashos, but am happy to be corrected if anyone has the exact figures.

    I have.

    National Servicemen constituted 44% of the Australian Army component committed to active service in Vietnam.

    Thus it should come as no surprise to anyone that between a half and a third in any Corps were in fact National Servicemen.

    For example:

    National Servicemen made up 41% of the Catering Corps.
    Ironically, National Servicemen made up precisely 44% of the Educational Corps.
    National Servicemen made up 46% of the Service Corps.

    Here’s a stunning statistic. 46% of 2nd Lieutenants – The officers that commanded Infantry Platoons, in what was a ‘Platoon Commander’s war’ were Nasho’s. That’s not an ‘outrider’. The fact that you cannot answer the question yourself is astonishing. That you are are incapable of accessing this easily available information and processing it exhibits a bewildering degree of base ignorance.

    Normally completion of a DipEd at teachers college would mean automatic entree to Scheyville. But not in your case? Did you question why you never made the grade at the time?

    You also need to be corrected regarding this.

    They’re quite incapable of any narrative except the one swallowed back in 1964 when Australians were first committed to Vietnam.

    Australians were first committed to Vietnam in 1962 not 1964.

    I understand you in the process of are writing a Phd thesis on the subject of Australia’s military commitment to Vietnam?

    You can’t even get the initial date right?

    I genuinely feel sorry for whoever is supervising this thesis.

  181. Colonel Crispin Berka

    Having kids is a private choice and a private cost.

    A private cost, yes, but children end up generating socialised benefits.
    Thus the State’s motive for cradle-to-grave nudging, supervision, medical care, subsidy, the extension of Australian jurisdiction to anywhere in the world an Australian citizen is standing, strategic inhibition, and 24/7 monitoring. But none dare call it ownership, that would be very impolite to our investors.

  182. calli

    Well greased ones, Arma.

    I would expect someone(s) on the inside getting a kick-back. This is deep shyte.

  183. Sinclair Davidson

    Welcome back Ellie.

    Love kd lang. Her best album IMHO is Drag.

  184. egg_

    Best version outside of The Big O

  185. Arky

    Love kd lang.

    ..
    Confirmed.
    The blog owner is a lesbian.

  186. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    You can’t even get the initial date right?

    I genuinely feel sorry for whoever is supervising this thesis.

    Game, set and match, I should think.

  187. zyconoclast

    A private cost, yes, but children end up generating socialised benefits.
    Thus the State’s motive for cradle-to-grave nudging, supervision, medical care, subsidy, the extension of Australian jurisdiction to anywhere in the world an Australian citizen is standing, strategic inhibition, and 24/7 monitoring. But none dare call it ownership, that would be very impolite to our investors.

    If it must happen do it via tax deduction.
    If you are not paying enough income taxe to get the deduction then you probably cant afford to pay the $100/day (or what ever it is) for day care.
    It all works out.

  188. Knuckle Dragger

    And, just like that……

    KABLAMMO.

  189. Knuckle Dragger

    Wet Toast Powerade sagging like an old sav facing a urine test.

  190. Nick

    Baroness Doom

    Lol. I like that

  191. Arky

    Oh God.
    The whole blog has turned to lesbianism.

  192. Ellie

    The blog owner is a lesbian.

    Who doesn’t like pussy?

  193. Sinclair Davidson

    Nick – to be fair I think John Constantine came up with that expression.

  194. Leigh Lowe

    Knuckle Dragger

    #3155031, posted on September 13, 2019 at 9:34 pm

    The Powerade’s kicking in for Wet Toast.

    Nup.
    Someone has cut their marching powder with ratsak.

  195. None

    A few moments ago the Australian had a headline and lede that read like this:

    Teacher sues school in faith test case

    Victorian teacher launches legal action against Christian college, claiming she was discriminated against over her beliefs on same-sex marriage

    I got distracted by conversation and when I looked again it looks like this:

    Teacher ‘forced out’ for her faith

    Victorian teacher launches legal action against Christian college, claiming she was discriminated against over her beliefs on same-sex marriage.

    this is why I am glad that I don’t give a single read said to the filth that is our media. As you can see they’re not interested in just reporting news, they are lying, sodomizing, bigots.

  196. Armadillo

    I would expect someone(s) on the inside getting a kick-back. This is deep shyte.

    I don’t object to friends asking their mates for a favour. It happens all the time. I’m not adverse to slinging a case of booze or two to a mate for nobbling a horse. No harm done.

    It’s when they start interfering in the mechanisms of Government that I get really pissed off.

  197. Lilliana

    There seems to be some sort of similarity amongst the childcare fraudsters. Something oddly

    familiar about their names.There seems to be some sort of similarity amongst the childcare fraudsters. Something oddly familiar about their names.

    That’s part of the problem. The gov. knows that the scams exist but are too scared to do anything lest they be called ‘wasist’. I doubt much will happen to this lot – just a bit of noise. African and middle eastern new arrivals know they can hide behind the racist shield and departmental staff look the other way. The few bureaucrats that try and do someting are facing an uphill battle. t Child care fraud was easy pickings and now they are branching out into disability scams. I don’t think the public comprehend the scale of the fraud. Billions. Gotta love all that enrichment through diversity.

  198. Knuckle Dragger

    The same Sandgropers that spent all day whining about ‘natural justice for Willie’, despite his apology and public mea culpa, will have decided in an hours’ time that it is all his fault for the reigning premiers being smacked out of the finals.

    But then racism. A conundrum.

  199. Nick

    Nick – to be fair I think John Constantine came up with that expression.

    I have a sneaking suspicion that Mrs. S might like such a monikker.

  200. None

    kd lang. Over emotional histrionic schmalz. Ironic that that her music is a favourite at gay parties – a lot of aged homos love making fun of her. Who said gay men can’t be sexist too?

  201. Nick

    That’s part of the problem. The gov. knows that the scams exist but are too scared to do anything lest they be called ‘wasist’.

    Why stop at the Gyppos when we have such State sponsored fiscal wankery in the form of the NDIS. Some of the legal rorts there make the fake child care centres seem like pocket change in comparison.

  202. Sinclair Davidson

    Baroness Doom wasn’t sure about the term, until I explained that people referred to me as “Doomlord”. Once she got that, she loved the term.

  203. Leigh Lowe

    If Rioli truly had just had coke or dope but not on match day he is dead stiff or stupid.
    All he had to do was declare his “drug problem” to the club doctor and he is sweet.
    Plenty of his Buddies have done that before him.
    Which makes me think that might be a cover story.

  204. EvilElvis

    What a fucked night for sport. I still won’t turn to cricket though. Never. Ever. Turn…

  205. Nick

    The same Sandgropers that spent all day whining about ‘natural justice for Willie’,

    Funny how some want the white mans’ laws when it suits

  206. Sinclair Davidson

    Tigers v Collingwood grand final I reckon.

  207. mh

    k.d.lang on boys night?

    Not a good look fellas.

  208. None

    Sending women with young children to prison is always and everywhere a public relations disaster.

    No one seemed to mind with Lindy Chamberlain.

  209. Armadillo

    The blog owner is a lesbian.

    Impossible. Friday night at the Cat is “Blokes Night”. He wouldn’t be here if he was a lesbian.

  210. Nick

    Baroness Doom wasn’t sure about the term, until I explained that people referred to me as “Doomlord”. Once she got that, she loved the term.

    🙂

  211. Tel

    H. Clinton

    But I believe she stole it. Of course.

    What would she know? She never even stole an election … other than a worthless primary from Bernie Sanders.

  212. Geriatric Mayfly

    A lesbian distractor.

    Research measuring if there is a difference in temperature between the left and right testicles is one of the winners of this year’s spoof Nobel prizes.
    They found the left one is warmer, but only when a man has his clothes on.
    The Ig Nobel prizes were announced at a ceremony at Harvard University.
    In their research “Thermal Asymmetry of the Human Scrotum” published in the journal Human Reproduction, the researchers explained their experiment involved measuring scrotal temperatures with probes every two minutes.
    BBC News

  213. mizaris

    Tigers v Collingwood grand final I reckon.

    Novena commenced for the Tigers…..could not cope with a mcguire family premiership.

  214. Sinclair Davidson

    No one seemed to mind with Lindy Chamberlain.

    Isolated cases – no problem.
    Wholesale – problem.

  215. None

    Why stop at the Gyppos when we have such State sponsored fiscal wankery in the form of the NDIS. Some of the legal rorts there make the fake child care centres seem like pocket change in comparison.

    yep I’ve been calling that since before the NDS was passed in legislation. It’s one fantastic ponzi scheme. The NDIS is rorted by more than just our child minding friends. The Africans have also got their fingers in that big pie big time.

  216. cohenite

    Alarmism is simultaneously the most stupid of all ideological scams and the most successful. It is pernicious and implacable. I’m at a loss to explain why it is so successful. A good, albeit long summary of how pervasive it is:

    Climate emergency lunacy continues to influence governments

    Chris McCormack News Weekly, September 7, 2019

    The players in the “carbon-dioxide-is-the-devil” agenda have moved beyond coercing governments to replace affordable and reliable power with expensive, intermittent electricity, to taxing meat and airline flights, and advocating the redistribution of land. The French Government will impose an “eco tax” of up to €18 ($A30) per flight out of France to reduce carbon-dioxide emissions, which will raise $300 million per year, starting in 2020. The Netherlands is planning to introduce a €7.50 tax on flying in 2021, which will apparently lead to a 4 per cent increase in ticket prices, a 4 per cent decrease in passenger numbers and generate €324 million for the treasury, according to an unpublished European Commission report.

    In what is a case of attempted corporate suicide, Dutch airline KLM is actually encouraging people to fly less. But, if they must fly, they should offset their “carbon footprint” by contributing to the EU Emissions Trading System or KLM’s CO2ZERO program. No doubt, both “clever” schemes where the elites gain further wealth from those brainwashed into thinking they’re saving the planet.

    The 16-year-old Swedish climate activist and darling of “climate-emergency” advocating elites around the globe, Greta Thunberg, has been leading the charge in the “flygskam”, or “shame linked to flying” movement, which has gained popularity in Scandinavia and Germany and has vocal support in the United States from Democratic Party congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, aka AOC.

    In June, flight shame was discussed at an aviation summit in Seoul, where International Air Transport Association head Alexandre de Juniac told chief executives: “Unchallenged, this sentiment will grow and spread.” Responding to “flygskam”, Qantas CEO Alan Joyce, in an uncharacteristic moment of talking sense, said: “We don’t want to go back to the 1920s and not have air travel. We need to make sure that we keep the baby [and don’t throw it out with the bathwater], because it is important for the world economy to have connections.”

    Flight shaming has been levelled at Prince Harry and wife Meghan, and Leonardo DiCaprio, who have used private jets despite calling for everybody to reduce their “carbon footprints”. I guess they figured the same rules didn’t apply to elites, but their hypocrisy has been exposed.

    In Germany, Luisa-Marie Neubauer, one of the main organisers of the school strike-for-climate movement inspired by Greta Thunberg, suggested a ban on domestic air travel could be “conceivable”. It had support from Hamburg’s Environmental Senator Jens Kerstan, who also called for lower traffic speed limits to lower carbon-dioxide emissions.

    And who better to proliferate the “climate-emergency” propaganda than the youth who will parrot back the lies they are indoctrinated with at school and in the media, to the feigned amazement of the influencers who filled their heads with it, and then fawn over them at the “wisdom” coming “out of the mouths of babes”? The youth are simply pawns (whose youthful attraction and emotion is leveraged) in the game of mass-indoctrination of the population.

    At the risk of offending all youth, a quote from James David Banker’s article on Quillette, “The Children of the Revolution”, seems to sum up the situation: “The young may be pure in heart, but they are also high on emotion and short on life experience. Simply put, they are natural philistines.”

    Meanwhile, an Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) report entitled “Climate change and land” claims that “an estimated 23 per cent of total anthropogenic greenhouse-gas emissions (2007–16) derive from agriculture, forestry and other land use” It recommends taxing foods deemed to produce high carbon-dioxide emissions, through “policies that operate across the food system, including those that … influence dietary choices … [and] … factoring environmental costs into food [and] making payments for ecosystem services”. (p32)

    Painting unrestricted farming of animals as dangerous for the climate, the report says “balanced diets, featuring plant-based foods, such as those based on coarse grains, legumes, fruits and vegetables, nuts and seeds, and animal-sourced food produced in resilient, sustainable and low-GHG emission systems, present major opportunities for adaptation and mitigation … [of climate change]”. (p26)

    In deference to a Stalinesque model of agricultural production, the IPCC report says: “Land policies (including recognition of customary tenure, community mapping, redistribution, decentralisation, co-management, regulation of rental markets) can provide both security and flexibility response to climate change.” (p31) It seems that hysteria over anthropogenic climate change could be the catalyst for centralised control of land, free movement of people and even restrictions on what we eat.

    The Climate Change Response (Zero Carbon) Amendment Bill was introduced into New Zealand’s Parliament in May and is currently before a select committee. It aims provisionally to reduce biological methane emissions – that is, livestock burping and farting – by 24 to 47 per cent by 2050 and achieve carbon neutrality by 2050.

    Federated Farmers of New Zealand vice-president Andrew Hoggard said: “At this point in time, we have no idea how to achieve reductions of this level, without culling significant stock numbers.” This puts at risk New Zealand’s $9.84 billion sheep and beef industry.

    It shouldn’t really come as any surprise that those with the most to gain from forced phasing out of meat in our diet are wealthy elites ready to profit from globalist control of what we eat. Who else but Bill Gates and Leonardo DiCaprio would have invested in company “Beyond Meat”, which just listed on the stockmarket at over $A1.8 billion?

    As Charles Kadlec’s article (“The goal is power: The global warming conspiracy”, Forbes, July 25, 2011) points out: “Regulation of CO2 is the gateway for those who control government to regulate all economic and most human activity.” Ironically, the hoi polloi are not only ignorant of the totalitarian agenda, but actively encouraging their own impoverishment and enslavement. One may ask, why?

    In a world where religious belief is diminishing and reason has taken a backseat, human yearning for meaning in life has turned to virtue signalling and feeling superior. Egos crave to be massaged by a recognition of one’s own efforts in saving the world from “catastrophic climate change”. Individual and collective consciences can be appeased by convincing themselves that they are “on the right side of history” in “the greatest moral challenge of our time”, as former Prime Minister Kevin Rudd put it.

    Forget sex trafficking and slavery, the millions of babies in the womb killed through abortion, systemic corruption leading to poverty and death in many nations, the invasion of nations by foreign military forces or civil wars, widespread rape, violence and murder. No, these pale into insignificance when compared with that evil carbon dioxide, the source of all life on earth!

    The incredible aspect of the mass movement against carbon dioxide is that there is little resistance to the global elites and multinationals who directly profit from climate-change schemes that tax everyone else. Where is the “one percenter” crowd when you need them to expose the inequality of climate-change policies?

    Indeed, those who have supped from the chalice containing the anthropogenic climate-change Kool-Aid are either ignorant, or guard jealously their own positions of influence.

    Take, for example, Yarra City Council in Melbourne, which has just advertised a $95,000-a-year position for a Climate Emergency Officer. The job is, among other things, to “investigate, prepare, and support applications for relevant grant programs to secure funds to enable delivery of climate emergency action and engagement programs”. It’s nice work if you can get it: an elitist salary to scaremonger and spread mistruths every day so more elites can gain funding on the back of taxing the masses.

    It may be a very long time before the gravy train for climate alarmists reaches its terminus, it seems. Twenty-eight councils around the country have declared a climate emergency, adding to the 800 worldwide, which encompass more than 140 million people.
    As long as the “climate-emergency” lunacy continues to influence governments and corporations, the masses will pay more, be controlled more, and may even have their land redistributed.

  217. Sinclair Davidson

    k.d.lang on boys night?

    She’s awesome.

  218. Nick

    Novena commenced for the Tigers…..could not cope with a mcguire family premiership.

    Collingwood will lose. It will be hilarious

  219. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘between the left and right testicles is one of the winners of this year’s spoof Nobel prizes.’

    Possibly the PHRASING of the year.

  220. None

    You need to look up some stats, Sinc. Women with young children get sent to jail all the time. And if men with young children can get sent to jail so can women.

  221. Armadillo

    No one seemed to mind with Lindy Chamberlain.

    Lindy wouldn’t be the type of lady you would let look after your child on a camping trip.

  222. None

    Let me also point out that in M cultures the father automatically gets custody of the children for whatever reason. The mother is entirely dispensable. In which case it should be very easy to jail these women.

  223. Overburdened

    Signed off the student today who has had 2 weeks of having me deliriously and dementedly nattering.

    The student’s relief was palpable.

    The poor bastard.

    It reflects the parlous state of things when a contractor is given the student and not a full time employee.

  224. mh

    Ok then, my contribution to lezzo night

    Miley Cyrus, Kaitlynn Carter make out at New York Fashion Week

    https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/miley-cyrus-kaitlynn-carter-new-york-fashion-week

  225. Sinclair Davidson

    None – if you think that the government will be systematically imprisoning women with young children that fine. I’ll get some popcorn.

  226. Overburdened

    I wouldn’t even give me a contract in the first place.

    Tragic really.

  227. Ellie

    Mh, they’re just being gay to be cool.

  228. zyconoclast

    None – if you think that the government will be systematically imprisoning women with young children that fine. I’ll get some popcorn.

    The don’t always get sent to prison for killing their own children or molesting underage students.

    They wont be sent for a measly multi million $ fraud.

  229. Overburdened

    In other sports news, the Aki Basho is up to day six

    https://youtu.be/E_w8hNoL5xo

  230. None

    There’s no systematic about it Sinc. Women commit crimes, women go to jail. Has been a fact of life since Europeans got here. In fact if these women don’t get jail terms the question will be why given others do.

  231. Knuckle Dragger

    Finally.

    A topic we can all enjoy. Lesbians.

    Just the hot ones, mind.

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