Tuesday Forum: September 10, 2019

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  1. Some History

    Here’s another of their “brilliant” ads

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/7301977/Anti-smoking-advert-with-sexual-innuendo-shocks-French.html

    And then there’s this. The antismoking nut cases have no grasp of history whatsoever. Led by the medically-aligned, the Narzees were antismoking… just like the medically-aligned these days:

    https://imgur.com/2EM18sH

  2. mh

    Imagine what Spud’s family have to endure.

    Jeez.

    🥔 🥔🥔

  3. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Had one once with the very same handle. Can’t recall ever giving it a second thought.

    We had one called “Mongreluselessblackbastard.” I tried convincing the Memsahib that it was Afrikaans for
    “Noble and hardworking valuable dog” but she didn’t believe me.

  4. Some History

    Then there’s this antismoking moron (attending an antismoking conference?):

    https://imgur.com/MBsxVoB

  5. Infidel Tiger

    Comfortably Smug

    @ComfortablySmug

    You can try banning or regulating them but at the end of the day the fact remains: smoking is cool and makes you look sophisticated.

    So true.

  6. Knuckle Dragger

    I don’t need to check records, Liability Bob, and I certainly don’t need to check with management.

    You’ve told us all. Again and again and again, whenever you need to cloak yourself in the bravery of others. Your versions tend to differ according to the subject and you use phrases like ‘locked and loaded’ but that’s just your imagination working overtime to justify your cowardice.

    And I sure won’t find anything from you asking to leave, even if I did check. A company commander desperate to rid himself of an active hindrance won’t leave a paper trail.

    And it can’t be fantasy. You told us. You wouldn’t fib to pump your own tyres up, Old Yeller, would you?

    Bottom line. Others volunteered. You were compelled to wear a uniform, and disgraced it by doing so.

    Ya cheap old past-changin’ publicity hound.

    Woof woof.

  7. feelthebern

    Come on – put up, or shut up.

    Ok, where and when were you a pro bono advocate.

  8. zyconoclast

    Exclusive: Feds Demand Apple And Google Hand Over Names Of 10,000+ Users Of A Gun Scope App

    Own a rifle? Got a scope to go with it? The U.S. government might soon know who you are, where you live and how to reach you.

    That’s because the government wants Apple and Google to hand over names, phone numbers and other identifying data of at least 10,000 users of a single gun scope app, Forbes has discovered. It’s an unprecedented move: Never before has a case been disclosed in which American investigators demanded personal data of users of a single app from Apple and Google. And never has an order been made public where the feds have asked the Silicon Valley giants for info on so many thousands of people in one go.

    According to an application for a court order filed by the Department of Justice (DOJ) on September 5, investigators want information on users of Obsidian 4, a tool used to control rifle scopes made by night-vision specialist American Technologies Network Corp. The app allows gun owners to get a live stream, take video and calibrate their gun scope from an Android or iPhone device. According to the Google Play page for Obsidian 4, it has more than 10,000 downloads. Apple doesn’t provide download numbers, so it’s unclear how many iPhone owners could be swept up in this latest government data grab.

  9. feelthebern

    More Jimmy Dore fire.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdFLpFHgHbk

    Gives it to Bolton & Pelosi.

  10. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Recruiting did point out’

    You wouldn’t know about recruitment, Liability Bob. Would’ve been the last thing on your mind.

    They didn’t have an office with a sign out front that said ‘People Who Want To Leave Fingernail Marks on Gangplanks Disembarking in Vung Tau’.

  11. C.L.

    The UK Times revealed the young British-Australian woman and her Australian partner were arrested 10 weeks ago and are detained in Evin prison in the Iranian capital of Tehran.

    I bet her family have nothing but nice things to say about him.

  12. Bruce of Newcastle

    Its incredible about Thorium because its not even a rare earth element.

    The heavy mineral sand miners currently throw the thorium away, as it’s too much hassle to stockpile. Monazite concentrates are easy to recover and can have as much as 10% thorium by weight. Compared to a good uranium ore containing 0.1% U the stuff is dead easy to recover. And it doesn’t need isotopic concentration either.

    ThO2 used to be used in Primus-style gas mantles. It may still be used in them, I haven’t kept track.

  13. Fisky

    Immigration restriction boosts wages and living standards

    While Australian wages remain stuck in the mud, held down in part by the endless deluge of migrant workers, the lower immigration arising from Brexit continues to be a bonanza for UK workers, who are enjoying both strong wage growth and unemployment at 45-year lows:

    Wages have continued to grow at a strong pace and employment remains at record highs, official figures show.

    Earnings excluding bonuses grew at an estimated annual pace of 3.8% in the May to July period, down slightly from the previous reading..

  14. Tintarella di Luna

    Cardimona
    #3153678, posted on September 12, 2019 at 9:06 am

    Love and good wishes to you Cardimona — love and appreciate your work and your sharing thereof.

  15. Some History

    Thus spake Greta™

    In her first extended broadcast interview in the United States, 16-year-old climate activist Greta Thunberg recounts her personal journey from when she first heard about the climate crisis at the age of 8 to the present day. Greta discusses her struggles with depression at an early age, which caused her to stop eating and talking. “When you are the only one who reacts about this crisis and everyone else seems to just [say], ‘Okay, it’s very important but I am too busy with my life… I just thought that it was very strange that no one else was behaving in a logical way,” Greta says. “Nothing seemed to matter anymore. But then I started to come back, to become better, to feel better. And a reason for that was because I saw that there are actually things you can do.” She talks about her refusal to travel via plane, commitment to a vegan lifestyle and decision to acquire most of her clothes secondhand. Now a central figure in the global climate movement, Greta will address the U.N. Climate Action Summit on September 23 in New York.

    “I was kind of a troublemaker”: How Greta Thunberg became a climate activist

  16. Old School Conservative

    In May, acting State Crime Commander Stuart Smith said the syndicate was “elaborate”, with systems designed “to defeat [departmental] audits … both phone and physical audits”.

    But there’s absolutely no evidence of public servants helping the fraud.
    Nothing to see here.

  17. Cactus

    We need to shut down the fact check units. What a joke.

    I refer to the website Zynoclast put up earlier.
    https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-12/is-renewable-power-cheaper-than-coal-nuclear-malcolm-turnbull/11495558?pfmredir=sm

    Even under their rubbish analysis they say this is a fair call.
    Lets start by taking their figures at the bottom chart from CSIRO as read (which is ridiculous – but anyway).
    They charge coal a risk premium because – um feelz. People are unhappy about coal, wont fund it so will only lend money at 15% interest rate.
    Then they show the solar and wind figures + bugger all / or a small amount of storage (2-6hrs).
    This just assumes either there is a coal fired power station available to provide reliable power after 2/6 hours without charging the solar/wind a premium or that solar and wind can reliably turn back on after 2-6 hours. All BS – the lot of it.

    That is taking the numbers as read. I take massive issue with the numbers used to calculate coal. In the past I note that people have generally been using the export price of coal as the cost of procuring coal which is just wrong. Most of the east coast of Australia has coal under it and is worth nothing because there is no infrastructure to get it to a) the coast or b) the power station. You could build a coal fired power station above a virgin block of coal, exploit it for A$30/t for black coal opex, maybe $10/t for ROIC on capital to build the mine, easily more than half or below the price of export thermal coal.

    Grrrrrrr. What utter BS merchants.

  18. Old School Conservative

    She talks about her refusal to travel via plane

    When will a reporter ask her about the crew who have to fly in before sailing the boat back?

    acquire most of her clothes secondhand

    I’ll bet her sailing gear was not secondhand.

  19. Steve trickler

    Who will save Greta?

    She’s being abused.

  20. Fisky

    I can see Beijing must have got on the blower to their satrap.

    Scott Morrison has thrown his support behind embattled Liberal MP Gladys Liu, saying she is a “great Australian” and accused Labor of a “grubby smear” against her and all Chinese-Australians.

    …“Gladys is a Chinese-born Australian. Does that make her in cahoots with the Chinese Government? Of course no. It is a ridiculous suggestion and I think it is an insult to every single Chinese-Australian in this country,” Mr Morrison said.

    “You know, it wouldn’t be the first time — wouldn’t be the first time — the Labor Party has made comments like this in my home state of NSW. We all remember the last NSW state election. What did they say, ‘Asians will take your jobs’.

    “The Labor Party have to take a good, hard look at themselves as to why they are pursuing this matter. They might want to dress it up as national security but I think 1.2 million Australians of Chinese heritage get the point.”

    The Labor Party’s calculations are of course purely partisan because they are if anything MORE riddled with agents of influence than the LNP.

    On Morrison’s substantive point – if he genuinely believes that it is racist to question Gladys Liu’s membership of CCP front organisations, let alone the fact she LIED about it, then the government might as well shoot itself in the head.

  21. C.L.

    Gladys is a Chinese-born Australian. Does that make her in cahoots with the Chinese Government?

    Very possibly.
    I still find the silence about “Peking” Paul Keating absolutely intriguing.

  22. Mother Lode

    “I was kind of a troublemaker”: How Greta Thunberg became a climate activist

    Shabby disheveled little kid, huh?

    I wonder how many parents look at the ragged urchin and see her as an exemplar for their child?

  23. C.L.

    Immigration restriction boosts wages and living standards

    The science really is settled on this one.

  24. rickw:

    One night, a nursing co-worker was transporting a baby who had been aborted because he had Down syndrome to our Soiled Utility Room to die – because that’s where survivors were taken.

    Being the sort of person who likes to have a plan for everything – even if it’s just to keep calm and do nothing – I’d thought this through and decided if I was ever put in this situation, what I would do is take the child outside, wrapped warmly in a blanket and carry it around to A&E. I’d announce that I’d found the child outside in the smoking area, and knew nothing of it’s history.
    Because there was no history, resuscitation would commence.
    I’d be sacked, but what would I be charged with?
    Meanwhile the baby would be getting care until someone twigged.

  25. 1735099

    You wouldn’t know about recruitment

    Hardly surprising, given like 15300 others I was conscripted to serve in “peacetime”.
    “Recruitment” was for regs.
    You “volunteered” in peacetime.
    I served with a reg who did that, and who threw his SLR on the ground in the process of disobeying a lawful command when ordered to assault a bunker system. The rest of us obeyed that same command, and he was shipped out on the next resupply and we never saw him again.
    His rhetoric reminds me eerily of yours.

  26. 1735099

    We need to shut down the fact check units.

    Of course.
    Catallaxy has a deep aversion to fact.

  27. Zyconoclast

    Gladys is a Chinese-born Australian. Does that make her in cahoots with the Chinese Government? Of course no. It is a ridiculous suggestion and I think it is an insult to every single Chinese-Australian in this country,” Mr Morrison said.

    Insult?
    Is it still an insult if they are or were members of the CCP or associated entities?
    Is there anything more ridiculous or obsequious than the non ethnic playing the race card for an entire population of a particular ethnic group?

  28. Old School Conservative

    Gladys is a Chinese-born Australian

    Isn’t she a Hong Konger, one of the freedom-loving anti Chinese good guys?

  29. 1735099

    Gangplanks disembarking in Vung Tau.

    Gangplanks in Vung Tau – now that is funny.
    We disembarked from the Sydney in landing craft.
    There wasn’t a gangplank in sight.
    Best you don’t post about topics which display your ignorance.
    Stick to hot dogs.

  30. Tom

    Breaking: Don Pyke has resigned as coach of the Adelaide Crows.

  31. Tom

    Barry Humphries is out and about this week feeding the media chooks, getting them to promote Dame Edna’s new show, My Gorgeous Life, with his typical cutting wit. “I’m the saviour of Brexit,” Dame Edna announces in the Currant Bun. “The Queen has approached me. She’s desperate and told me she needs a woman who ticks all the boxes – diversity, inclusiveness, climate change, mindfulness and gender fluidity.”

    Humphries also had the leftard zombies at Nein-Fakefacts eating out of his hand, though they couldn’t help politicising his contempt for the left’s untouchable men pretending to be women.

  32. min

    Talking with neighbour’s nephew this morning who is Professor of Politics and International Affairs at University in England ,I asked him what would happen about Brexit. He is expecting civil violence from both sides.

  33. Percy:

    I didn’t post a comment about this outrage in the past few days because I didn’t have a chance and no one seems to be commenting on areff’s thread any more, but …

    Knew nothing about it…

  34. Mother Lode

    One night, a nursing co-worker was transporting a baby who had been aborted because he had Down syndrome to our Soiled Utility Room to die

    My brother is Downs Syndrome.

    When he was born well meaning professionals strongly advised her to get him to a home where they were trained to cope with kids like him.

    She is in her 80’s now, and my father passed away. She helps my brother, and he helps her. He keeps her in cups of tea, she manages the bills. She uses her still intact mind and he uses his physical strength. She lives in her own space, has her own privacy, her own independence, plays her own music, watches her TV shows, fields phone calls at all hours, and holds court when members of the family visit.

    And she chats with my brother, who is a well-meaning and affectionate fellow.

    Without him she would instead very possibly be in a nursing home.

    – because that’s where survivors were taken.

    Given current linguistic trends, I should think the abortionists would be calling the non-mothers ‘Unwanted Pregnancy Survivors’.

  35. Black Ball

    Really Tom? That is unexpected. Something rotten there in Adelaide, and it isn’t West End beer.

  36. Zyconoclast

    Very possibly.
    I still find the silence about “Peking” Paul Keating absolutely intriguing.

    Don’t forget the late and lamentable Beijing Bob.

    And Bob ‘steel cut oats’ Carr deserves a dishonourable mention

  37. C.L.

    Don Pyke has resigned as coach of the Adelaide Crows.

    I don’t think I can go on.

  38. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    NSW
    More arrests over huge childcare fraud syndicate in Sydney

    Police have swooped on mums in Sydney’s south west, accusing them of selling childrens’ identities as part of a large childcare fraud syndicate falsely claiming millions of dollars in government subsidies.
    Mark Morri, The Daily Telegraph
    Subscriber only
    |
    September 12, 2019 11:56am

    dailytelegraph.com.au0:56
    Major child care fraud syndicate arrests across Sydney
    .
    Sixteen women have been arrested across southwest Sydney today and are being questioned over their alleged involvement in a massive childcare fraud scheme.

    Police are investigating allegations the women were part of a criminal syndicate that claimed federal government childcare subsidies for children attending centres that didn’t even exist.

    Eight other people – including seven women and one man – were charged on Tuesday. One of those was Lubna Al-Hashing, 41, the partner of alleged syndicate boss Alee Farmann, 49, of Georges Hall.

    In May this year 17 people involved in the alleged fraud were arrested. Today’s operations follows the establishment of Strike Force Mercury after the initial arrests.

    All 17 people charged in May remain before the courts and this week’s operations bring the total people arrested by police to more than 40.

    It’s alleged parents would sign their children up for care at another syndicate member’s home while they themselves claimed government subsidies for other children for whom they never provided care.

    The special strike force was set up by NSW Police after they uncovered an alleged scheme where parents would sell their children’s identities to the syndicate so the claims could be made.

    The strike force has been assisted by the Federal Education and Training Department, the Australian Criminal Intelligence Commission, the NSW Education Department and NSW Crime Commission.

    A number of legitimate childcare centres were also targeted for allegedy sharing profits from the subsidies the parents were making from their children.

    The syndicate unravelled in May when detectives swooped on Farmann.

    At the time police alleged 150 parents signed up to the fake business Red Roses Family Day Care with each falsely claiming federal subsidies for looking after between three and seven children.

    The syndicate was alleged to have scammed $3.8 million with one woman found with $35,000 in her handbag when arrested at her south Granville home

    Mr Farmann was alleged to have pocketed $60,000 a month.

  39. Mother Lode

    He is expecting civil violence from both sides.

    If there is violence I would expect the violence from the left to be particularly uncivil.

    From the right there might be a box about the ears, or a boot up the bum.

    The left goes after people where they live, go after their families, lie about them in print, drive them into dungeons, and ‘get rid of problems’ with bullets.

    Then they start doing the same to each other because they always get everything wrong and can never admit it is them.

  40. Knuckle Dragger

    Again, Old Yeller, missing the point.

    Which is, of course – was his SLR locked and loaded at the time?

    Was he the same nasty man who you saved from a busload of noggie kids at the pictures?

    Or the waiter who segregated your indig mate at your Melbourne reunion?

    God, you’re an amazing bloke. For a coward.

  41. 1735099

    God, you’re an amazing bloke. For a coward.

    Ask Sinc for my records.
    If you can’t do that, you’re not only a coward, but a hypocrite.
    Stick to hot dogs.
    That’s more your calling…..

  42. Percy Popinjay:
    Ashura 2019.
    Don’t know if anyone has posted, but this is it.

  43. Knuckle Dragger

    Doing any pro bono advocacy for Tamil terrorists today, Liability Bob?

    That can’t be a little white lie, surely.

  44. Percy Popinjay

    Don Pyke has resigned as coach of the Adelaide Crows.

    Has he subsequently been placed on suicide watch?

  45. Infidel Tiger

    Gladys is a Chinese-born Australian. Does that make her in cahoots with the Chinese Government?

    WOW.

    ScoMo is really toeing the CCP line.

    Would he say that if she was born in Taiwan?

  46. Knuckle Dragger

    Not ‘can’t’, ‘won’t’.

    Don’t need to. It’s all in your book, right?

    It’s non-fiction, right? Right?

  47. notafan

    I wonder how much influence that journalist, or was it Mark Latham? highlighting the extraordinary number of childcare places there were in and around Lakemba that prompted the investigation.

    of course this is just another version of ill mind yours if you mind mine that went on in the mu slim community for years in Melbourne’s high rises and northern suburbs.

  48. notafan

    Gladys is a Chinese-born Australian. Does that make her in cahoots with the Chinese Government?

    Hong Kong born, left in in 1985.

  49. notafan

    Apparently Toowoomba is very very white bread

    no wonder someone can sit and snipe at all the rest of us loving our mass immigration

  50. cohenite

    Zyconoclast

    #3153771, posted on September 12, 2019 at 10:59 am

    ABC Fact Check
    Malcolm Turnbull says renewables plus storage are cheaper than coal and nuclear for new power generation. Is he correct?

    Fair Call

    Bullshit. A levelized cost comparison between renewables and fossils/nuclear is impossible because the power produced by renewables is erratic, weather dependent and entirely supported by subsidies which are not added to the cost of the renewables. The abc are arseholes and turdball is a piece of shit; a perfect fit.

  51. egg_

    “The Queen has approached me. She’s desperate and told me she needs a woman who ticks all the boxes – diversity, inclusiveness, climate change, mindfulness and gender fluidity.”

    LMFAO.
    A dig at Wallace Markle?

  52. egg_

    Malcolm Turnbull says renewables plus storage are cheaper than coal and nuclear for new power generation.

    Maths isn’t Marxists’ strong point?

  53. egg_

    Apparently Toowoomba is very very white bread

    no wonder someone can sit and snipe at all the rest of us loving our mass immigration

    Bugmen 101
    No surly swarthy tradies in Toowoomba?

  54. John Constantine

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-11/iraq-stampede-kills-dozens-as-hezbollah-issues-warning-to-i….l/11498596

    Tens of thousands of Hezbollah supporters have marched in south Beirut as the leader of the militant group issued a new warning to I L

    The Hezbollah supporters were on the streets of Beirut’s Dahieh district to mark the end of the Shia period of mourning called Ashura.

    It’s a show of support for the Iran-funded militia and a rare chance to speak openly to Hezbollah supporters and members in the group’s Beirut heartland.

    “It’s important to be here to show I s that we’re not here only with our weapons, we’re here with our religious ideology, and then they will fear us more and more,” one woman said.

    The final day of Ashura is the biggest religious event of the year for Shia.

    It commemorates the death of Husayn, the grandson of the Prophet , in 680AD and is marked by mass sorrow and public weeping.

    Culturally, this has endured and gained in strength for a thousand years,

    While in the last hundred years only, Old australia has forgotten Remembrance Day, christmas is a secular holiday in the middle of beach season, Easter marks the Bunny inventing hot cross buns, ANZAC Day is to be QWERTY, melbourne cup day is to be legless and footy grand final is to be Lectured.

    Comrades.

  55. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Doing any pro bono advocacy for Tamil terrorists today, Liability Bob?

    I do hope Numbers Ho is properly accredited – pro bono advocates have been sued before, for giving “duff gen.”

  56. Percy Popinjay

    ABC Fact Check
    Malcolm Turnbull says

    Spot the absurdity above (Hint: there is more than one).

  57. C.L.

    That’s a great column by Steyn (somebody above).

    The Afghanistan War is a facile publicity stunt.
    As Steyn says, we fight and die for goat country while giving away the best real estate in the world to their co-religionists. But that, of course, was always the propaganda purpose of Afghanistan. Bush and Howard and Blair could pretend they were tough on the perpetrators of 9/11 while, in fact, they were surrendering to them as no Westerners in history ever have before. And they cared not a jot for the men killed to purchase for them this ridiculous fig leaf. And still it goes on.

  58. egg_

    Gladys is a Chinese-born Australian. Does that make her in cahoots with the Chinese Government?

    If it quacks like a duck…

  59. Stimpson J. Cat

    Can I just say that with all the military bragging going on here that I volunteered and fought incredibly bravely in the War Against Climate Change.
    Wounded by a hockeystick.
    Never got a medal or a thank you.
    Outrageous.

  60. Delcon

    A poster here:

    Good luck to any Hong Kong or Chinese born person entering politics in Oz and trying to not have links with organisations linked to Chinese Government and hence communists.

    Well, if it’s that simple, why did she lie and obfuscate in Bolta’s interview about this, instead of saying it like you have. Then, there is her activism in favour of China, about which she, again, lied and obfuscated. Then there is the South China Sea issue about she also, you guessed it, lied and obfuscated. That amounts to a lot of lies and obfuscation for someone who has nothing to hide, methinks.

    As for the Libs, their support for this Chicom agent, trying to portray criticism of her as some form of racism is appalling.
    Scott Morrison:

    Gladys is a Chinese-born Australian. Does that make her in cahoots with the Chinese Government? Of course no.

    Shame on you, Libs.

  61. John Constantine

    Their afl and their national australia bank bring you this special bit of footage, and if you think that having a child do ‘The Kick’ in stop motion footage is a bit queasy, there is something wrong with you, not with them.

    Comrades.

  62. Delcon

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #3153921, posted on September 12, 2019 at 1:44 pm

    Can I just say that with all the military bragging going on here that I volunteered and fought incredibly bravely in the War Against Climate Change.
    Wounded by a hockeystick.
    Never got a medal or a thank you.
    Outrageous.

    I am sure that I am talking on behalf of all Cats when I hereby nominate you for the Zali Steggall medal for courage in face of the enemy, and not just any enemy, but the most vicious of all: Global Warming. As soon as Zali finds enough coins to buy an electric car she should have some spare to award you this medal personally.

  63. OSC:

    In May, acting State Crime Commander Stuart Smith said the syndicate was “elaborate”, with systems designed “to defeat [departmental] audits … both phone and physical audits”.

    But there’s absolutely no evidence of public servants helping the fraud.
    Nothing to see here.

    I wonder how they managed to get around a dozen or so kids being looked after in the powerless garage?
    Swapped house numbers around?

  64. Infidel Tiger

    Good luck to any Hong Kong or Chinese born person entering politics in Oz and trying to not have links with organisations linked to Chinese Government and hence communists.

    A complete ban on foreign borns entering politics is a healthy start.

    Do something proper before you seek to rule us, you filthy interlopers.

    The Brits have trashed the place, be damned if I’ll let the Chinks finish the place off.

  65. Fisky

    Hey Dapper, how’s things with you, have you found a new job yet?

  66. Fisky

    It’s a pretty easy question to answer you would think. Are you a member of a CCP front group? Gladys “couldn’t remember.” lol

    Of course if trolls want to argue there is nothing wrong with joining a CCP front, then why would Gladys be so reluctant to answer honestly?

  67. Fisky

    Dapper have a look at the Macrobusiness site. Best analysis you will find from a left of centre position.

  68. Cassie of Sydney

    “notafan
    #3153909, posted on September 12, 2019 at 1:32 pm
    Apparently Toowoomba is very very white bread

    no wonder someone can sit and snipe at all the rest of us loving our mass immigration”

    Well I read last week that there are some Yazidi women now living in Toowoomba…….these women survived the mass rapes, sexual slavery and murder by the adherents of the religion of pieces…and they have been given refuge in Australia and are now settled in Toowoomba…these women are real refugees. I must have missed the post where the Toowoomba turd discusses them….but then again he is not interested in real victims of war and mass slaughter…and besides these women are victims of the RoP. …terribly inconvenient.

  69. Delcon

    A complete ban on foreign borns entering politics is a healthy start.

    Those hapless clowns seem completely unable to even make sure they have renounced their foreign citizenship before they enter Parliament, even though all it takes is a few minutes of writing a letter to the appropriate foreign embassy.

  70. Black Ball

    John Constantine and Farmer Gez, I see that it is the 150th anniversary of the Weekly Times first rolled of the press. Long may it live.

  71. John Constantine

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2019-09-12/investigation-into-slaughter-of-australian-cattle-in-indonesia/11502962?fbclid=IwAR087M2iVTCyn_HyByDDINs-e4Fn0NhHdCtX0fEFyFWu1-OQbw0NzAjnHI0&sf219266418=1

    Exported cattle roped, slaughtered in Indonesian car park

    Footage has been obtained by their abc from animals australia.

    The social licence clock is ticking.

  72. Dapper Happer:

    Winston Smith is my new hero

    Please, I’m no ones hero. Just another faceless one of the crowd.
    – unless you were being sardonic.
    In which case, “My humility is my superpower. I am more humile than anyone. Shit – I’m more humile than everyone.”

  73. Fisky

    Dapper some of the crew would love to fix you a job but we are in the wrong industries.

    Anyhow you are spot on about the changing climate among the right-wing. I put it down to our successful and comprehensive dismantling of libertarian epistemology to the point now that punters are trained to jeer and yell insults at libertarians whenever they pop up. It’s taken years of conditioning but we got there.

  74. John Constantine

    The Weekly Times may be a media survivor, but even it has been taken a little ‘ woke’.

  75. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Footage has been obtained by their abc from animals australia.

    How much did Animals Australia offer to pay for this footage?

  76. dover_beach

    In which case, “My humility is my superpower. I am more humile than anyone. Shit – I’m more humile than everyone.”

    And then Jorge Bergoglio walks into the room and kisses your feet.

  77. Infidel Tiger

    Who is Dapper Happer?

  78. Black Ball

    Editorial bit from the Hun. Knuckle Dragger would be pleased. Or not.

    ‘The bronze statue of AFLW player Tayla Harris yesterday generated a strong reaction.
    On social media and news sites the reasons to”immortalise” the pioneering ruck/forward in the elite women’s competition. Comparisons were also made with veteran AFL stars or others who have not been rendered in statue.
    But the artwork is not simply a tribute to the Carlton player as a talented athlete, and her memorable “kick” during the final round match against the Bulldogs this year. The statue is a social statement, made through the prism of sport.
    Sport is the great equaliser where those who take the field should be judged on their character and performance, not on race or gender. The popularity of elite sports can also be a powerful conduit for change and for social progress. Yet the 3.3 metre statue should not be viewed as an example of political correctness or the negativity that phrase often carries.
    Harris, 22, a footballer from the tender age of five, worked her way through the Queensland league, the VFL and onto the AFLW (as well as being a highly competitive boxer).
    As an athlete, she is gifted and passionate. But Harris has also shown a maturity, courage and resolve in her fight against the ugly and misogynistic social media trolling that followed publication of the famous photo that inspired the statue. Her example will spark changes in attitudes and challenge the small minority who gender objectify.
    “It doesn’t matter if you’re a man or a woman, young or old – everyone has a right to do what they love.” Harris said.’

    Secretly Ms Harris is loving the attention. I well recall Dustin Martin receiving similar compliments with a similar photo. Did he give 2 flying fornications? Pressure on now Tayla Harris to deliver something tangible, not just feelz.

  79. Gab

    Someone with a 12th dan belt in Verbiage, IT.

  80. Infidel Tiger

    He’s a friend of yours. Down on his luck. A partriot. Not angry any more.

    Hope things get better for you my friend.

    You have fought the good fight for a long time against the libertarian fraud and the science fraud.

    Far out, it appears you have even put “chrome dome” Hamilton on a path of righteousness.

  81. Stimpson J. Cat

    He’s a friend of yours. Down on his luck. A partriot. Not angry any more.

    Stay strong Dapper.
    Change your mind, change your life.
    Things get better.
    Helping others is the best way to help yourself.

  82. Tom

    The Weekly Times may be a media survivor, but even it has been taken a little ‘ woke’.

    I read it only occasionally, but the weekly column in the Currant Bun by Weekly Times editor Ed Gannon is always worth a gander.

    Today’s column addresses the Weekly Times’ 150th birthday and I have to say, that as a newspaperman, I have yuuuge respect for a paper that ran a verbatim interview in 1880 with Ned Kelly as he was being transported to Melbourne to be hanged after the Glenrowan siege.

    The WT doesn’t read woke to me.

  83. Knuckle Dragger:

    Which is, of course – was his SLR locked and loaded at the time?

    No one has has picked up on his ‘150 rounds’ of ammo.
    First line ammo is 160 rounds in 8 x 20 round mags.
    The only way to get this loadout is with 5 x 30 mags.
    Which is for the gun – not the rifle. I found the 30 round mag too cumbersome for the field. Others may differ.*
    *I never saw active service. My only use of the L1A1 was on exercise in Australia.
    My Corps was RAANC and I was the lowest of the low – a DEO.
    Missed the last ballot for NS – two days away.
    Tried to volunteer when I was sixteen for an apprenticeship but poor eyesight.
    Definitely not a hero.

  84. max

    I’m betting someone has a go at the Tayla Harris statue in GF week.

    It’s 3.3m tall FFS. Obviously an ‘up yours’ to the ‘haters’ and her many, many critics. Goodes is gone so they had to find a replacement.

  85. BrettW

    Regarding Gladys Liu the below are paras from a SMH article 5 days before the election. They basically show the links associated with Liu can equally apply to the unsuccessful Labor candidate Jennifer Yang. I don’t recall the ABC article in Sinclairs thread mentioning Yang in the same manner even though their source for comments were also from Clive Hamilton. Another obvious case of pro left bias by omission.

    “Chinese language documents have revealed the ALP’s Jennifer Yang and the Liberal Party’s Gladys Liu — who are contesting the eastern Melbourne electorate of Chisholm — have both attended events and been involved in groups backed by the Chinese government.

    The groups seek to push the Communist Party’s agenda throughout the Chinese diaspora.

    There is no suggestion that the Taiwan-born Ms Yang and Hong Kong-born Ms Liu have tried to exert influence on behalf of the Chinese.
    But their involvement with CCP-aligned organisations highlights the success of the Chinese government in monopolising local Australian Chinese community and political groups. This often leaves candidates seeking the Chinese-Australian vote no choice but to attend events and accept titles organised by Beijing’s satellite groups.

    An analysis of these activities by Charles Sturt University public ethics professor Clive Hamilton — a strident critic of foreign political interference in Australia — has revealed both candidates have been honorary presidents of community groups in which other prominent members are connected.

    Last December, Ms Liu and Ms Yang were also special guests at a seminar in Box Hill for potential Chinese members of Australian political parties. The seminar was jointly organised by several groups that form part of the United Front’s broader network.

    Ms Yang and Ms Liu have also been listed as honorary presidents of the Australian Jiangmen General Commercial Association and the United Chinese Commerce Association of Australia, whose fellow VIPs include a range of pro-Beijing figures.

    It is possible that Ms Yang and Ms Liu were bestowed the titles without their approval or knowledge of the groups ties. One of the association’s key figures was a member of the Australian Council for the Promotion of the Peaceful Reunification of China, a lobby group linked to billionaire political donor Huang Xiangmo.”

    If Liu is not suitable to sit in Parliament then neither was the Labor candidate.

  86. Fisky

    Remember I told you years ago about our plans for this blog Knuckledragger. It has played out just as predicted!

  87. Fisky

    Sorry that was addressed to Dapper not Knuckle.

  88. Arky

    Had my kid’s concert to go to this arvo.
    Looked through messages to find the actual time of concert.
    No help. Missus in meeting, latest message sez.
    Send her message to find out time.
    She replies that she is at the school already. Her meeting message was from four hours ago.
    Find pants. No shoes. Old runners. Hair. Fuck it I’ll do something with it in car. Down front steps. Phone rings. Stop to look at phone. Beijing. China. Chinese communists running some scam. Let it go to voicemail. Past mailbox. Big bloody white envelope sticking out. Can’t leave it someone might swipe it. Australian government. What’s this shit? What have I done wrong now? Running across nature strip to car and looking down at envelope. I pass out. Come to still standing up, but neck hurts like hell and blood in hair. I have run into a big fuck off tree branch.
    In the car. Head ringing, Open big envelope. Bowel screening kit. Didn’t I already throw one of these fucking things out. I bashed my head into a tree for this shit? Really angry and late now.
    Roadworks. Two lanes? You need two lanes of the road to repair the pedestrian pavement?
    Missus calls. Near school now. “The big car park will be full. Don’t park in any of the side streets, they are all 1/2 hour zones. Concert starting.
    Drive around. 15 minute zone. 1/2 hour zone. There! at the gates! 5 minute zone. Shit. The sons and daughters of communist China who have descended on this suburb en masse care nothing for parking limits. They are filling up the 5 minute zone in front of me.
    Drive out down highway looking for a park. 100 metres, 200 metres, 300 metres, 1 kilometre. 2 kilometre…
    Hello sweetheart.
    I’m at the mall having a Coke and honey chicken on a stick…

  89. Val Majkus

    Footage has been obtained by their abc from animals australia.

    thanks to the voters that Labor is not in charge

  90. Dapper Happer.
    Ok – I get it.
    You’re taking the piss.
    Good one.

  91. Knuckle Dragger

    Good work, Winston.

    150 rounds indeed. Like his taped grenades fiction.

    Exposed, as so many of his tales are, by those who have been there and done that.

  92. Dover Beach:

    And then Jorge Bergoglio walks into the room and kisses your feet.

    Gees, I hope not.
    All my toes are a horrible brown colour because painted with Betadine to defeet (Geddit?) toenail infection.
    I should put some glitter on them….

  93. 1735099

    Exposed ….by those who have been there and done that….

    Except you haven’t, and by his own admission, neither has Winston.
    So if you couldn’t, didn’t or wouldn’t, the next best thing is to make up bullshit about those who have.
    Pathetic.

  94. Knuckle Dragger

    Bloody hell BB.

    ‘Judged on their character and performance, not on race or gender.’

    Contradictory at best. If we don’t judge the chick on gender, we must put her up and compare her against blokes.

    Then we judge her performance. Unless she’s the Bradman of her infant code, which she’s not, then there’s no reason to deify her in this manner.

    The tonne of metal used for this should be melted down. When Billy Duckworth and Rod Grinter and Denis Banks and Bruce Doull and Micky Conlan and Ange Christou and Dermot Brereton and Roger Merrett get statues, and there’s any bronze left over, then maybe.

    Clearly an editorial with Gill’s imprimatur all over it.

  95. Arky

    Head hurts.
    Need to lie down.

  96. cohenite

    You have to spin on the dime when people do the right thing. Like back in the day when Barry Brook came to the bright side of the road.

    Clive and bazza; there was a time when I was prepared to thump both of these dickheads; but bazza on nukes and clive on the chinks shows even the worst of dickheads can have a bit of redemption in them.

  97. Knuckle Dragger

    These are all your stories, you halfwit.

    Of course people are going to call them out.

    Now. Care to comment on you and your 150 rounds?

    Or was that a typo, like the year you single-handedly rescued dozens of junior noggies from those treacherous Commies and took them to see Atticus Finch?

  98. egg_

    women now living in Toowoomba…….these women survived the mass rapes, sexual slavery and murder by the adherents of the religion of pieces…

    Scandinavians?

  99. Knuckle Dragger:

    The tonne of metal used for this should be melted down.

    If it’s made of brass, it will be.
    Its next residence will be Dodgy Bobs Scrap Metal and Nail Salon.

  100. Black Ball

    Dragger I am thinking of a statue, from the Italian marble site whence Michaelangelo sourced, of Dermott kissing Duckworth. Hard men who embraced homo behaviour in a fierce cauldron.

  101. Knuckle Dragger

    BB,

    Yes. Also one of Robbie Muir decking various Caaaarldon punters.

  102. pete m

    The High Court today heard an appeal by Steven Fennell of the murder conviction from Russell Island – so called granny killer.

    No direct dna evidence.

    Wholly circumstantial.

    Well known old lady had tens of thousands at her house. Russell Island full of ex crims laying low fresh start etc.

    Jury made aware of his past crimes by accident.

    Conviction upheld in Court Appeal.

    Conviction quashed and immediate release ordered by High Court, reasons to follow.

    Will have interesting ties to Pell appeal if it goes ahead.

    Had a small role in Steve’s life and spoke to him after first police interview and always maintained he was not the one, but had doubts!

  103. Arky

    Honey chicken is good. Meat and sugar.
    Should be more dishes with this combination.
    Not just ratty meats like chicken and pork either.
    Real meats with sugary stuff.
    Raspberry beef, or apricot lamb.

  104. Oh, goodie!
    Are we going to do Just War again?
    My view is that we should use nukes on every bastard that looks at us funny.
    “Just to be sure.”

  105. Arky:
    Are we going to do the Apricot Saga all over again?

  106. Arky

    I cut that tree down and fed it to the fire.

  107. Arky

    The rats were living off apricots.
    Just spent two weeks cleaning the roof space out.
    Mummified rats, rat shit and about a million apricot stones.

  108. Stimpson J. Cat

    Forget about all this wearisome War wanking Dapper.
    What’s your hot tip on the Boris Brexit?
    Will it happen?
    What does it mean for us?

  109. Arky

    I guess the mummified rats would be a bit like apricot chicken jerky.

  110. Gab

    No offence meant, Dapper. Just a welcome to Catallaxy ceremony. 😝

  111. pete m

    Sorry, it was Macleay island, not Russell.

    Defence used Lindy Chamberlain precedent to secure a win apparently.

  112. 1735099

    Now. Care to comment on you and your 150 rounds?

    We carried 150 rounds plus. We used 20 round mags, but not all ammo was in mags. They weren’t always entirely for our personal weapon. SLR rounds and M60 rounds were identical, except the gun rounds were in belts. Sometimes we used to cover the belts with plastic sleeves cut out of the squeaky blow up mattresses.
    The number two on the gun always had rounds draped round his neck, and they were often shared out with others in the section.
    Your problem, (and Winstons’) is the assumption that there was only one way that anything/everything was done, based on your own limited experience as peacetime soldiers.
    The other problem, of course, is that you don’t like my opinions. If I agreed with the bulk of the crap posted here, I could make up all sorts of nonsense, and it would be accepted because Catallaxy Correctness.
    Whether you like it or not, I have more front line service than you and Winston, and I’m proud of the fact that I survived, and let nobody down. I couldn’t have cared less about fighting Communism. I was fighting for myself and my mates, whilst the vast majority of my generation was swanning around on the beaches and pubs back in Oz.
    They weren’t stupid. They weren’t volunteering in sufficient numbers to fight to keep a bunch of troglodytes in Canberra in power.
    The only regret I have is that I rolled over and went along with my callup. Unlike most, I knew what a ridiculously morally corrupt exercise it was, but I won because I came back in one piece.
    So stick that where the sun don’t shine.
    200 Nashos didn’t, and your habit of putting shit on National Servicemen shames your service, such as it was.
    Vietnam was an anomaly in our otherwise proud military tradition.
    It was the only war in our history in which young Australians were randomly conscripted to fight in an army of occupation on foreign soil at the reluctant behest of a foreign power.
    (And don’t give me that crap about WW2, Curtin and Oz mandated territory in the Pacific – we were at existential threat from the Japanese at that time).
    The Vietnamese were never a threat to Australia. What Menzies and his ilk were afraid of was losing government.
    Eventually they did, but not before hundreds of Australians died in a cynical political exercise.
    That is, and always will be, a source of deep shame for the Coalition.

  113. Gab

    Been there, done that twice, Dapper. Scary as.

  114. Arky

    The Vietnamese were never a threat to Australia.

    ..
    Neither were the Germans.

  115. Roger

    Apparently Toowoomba is very very white bread

    no wonder someone can sit and snipe at all the rest of us loving our mass immigration

    Used to be, but for about the last two decades it has been one of the major regional refugee resettlement sites.

    Also has a university which attracts a lot of foreign students.

    And about a hundred Indian restaurants, it seems.

  116. Arky

    Next thing you will say we shouldn’t have killed any Boers.

  117. Top Ender

    Making it up as they go along:

    The ACT will gain one of the nation’s biggest batteries, capable of powering 25,000 homes for two hours, as it moves to end its reliance on fossil fuels.

    The proposed battery would be able to store about one-third as much power as the Hornsdale reserve in South Australia, which is the world’s biggest lithium-ion battery.

    Mr Rattenbury said the ACT facility, which would take about two years to build, would help stabilise the electricity network and allow Canberra to operate solely on renewable power.

    “It will also support the ACT electricity grid, helping to manage fluctuations in grid voltage and frequency, remove the need to upgrade network infrastructure, store excess electricity from renewable electricity sources, and provide power to help avoid blackouts during periods of high demand and when large fossil fuel generators fail in heatwave conditions,” he said.

    The ACT Government is believed to be just weeks away from announcing it has achieved its target of 100 per cent renewable electricity use across the territory, making it Australia’s first jurisdiction to do so.

    Link

  118. Infidel Tiger

    You guys checked out David Chappele lately? Used to be an annoying lefty. But now the best comic around

    Cleverest comedian going around.

  119. Gab

    I wonder what that dear sweet Philomena is up to these days? Still bicycling in the Tuscan fields lathered up in olive oil perhaps.

  120. Tintarella di Luna

    Terrible story in the Oz about a 14 year old girl giving birth in a toilet block in Kalgoorlie – it finishes with this paragraph:

    WA police earlier this week said they had also begun an investigation into how a 14-year-old girl fell pregnant.

    I wonder where a certain incarcerated cleric was at the time? or perhaps what role was played by you know who after all it is one or the other who carries the guilt of every malfeasance.

  121. Tintarella di Luna

    You guys checked out David Chappele lately? Used to be an annoying lefty. But now the best comic around

    Cleverest comedian going around.

    He’s certainly picked his time right, right?

  122. Roger

    The ACT Government is believed to be just weeks away from announcing it has achieved its target of 100 per cent renewable electricity use across the territory, making it Australia’s first jurisdiction to do so.

    Then why is one of the functions of the battery to “provide power to help avoid blackouts during periods of high demand and when large fossil fuel generators fail in heatwave conditions”?

  123. Bruce of Newcastle

    The ACT Government is believed to be just weeks away from announcing it has achieved its target of 100 per cent renewable electricity use across the territory, making it Australia’s first jurisdiction to do so.

    Excellent! We can disconnect the interconnector then so that no naughty carboniferous electrons can contaminate their glorious achievement.

  124. Buccaneer

    Oh look, numberwang just wrote more in one post than he has for the last month on his own blog. Must be a tacit admission that this blog is far more interesting and entertaining than the dirge he serves up to, sorry who reads it? (crickets chirping).

  125. rickw

    The ACT will gain one of the nation’s biggest batteries, capable of powering 25,000 homes for two hours, as it moves to end its reliance on fossil fuels.

    The inevitable fire will be spectacular!

  126. johanna

    All my toes are a horrible brown colour because painted with Betadine to defeet (Geddit?) toenail infection.

    Winston, if that doesn’t work, try tea tree oil (diluted). I had the toenail infection that requires something that costs $90+ to fix. Stuff that, thinks me, so I bathed my footsie in warm water with a dash of TTO every couple of days and – bingo. Infection (fungal, IIRC) goes away.

    Tea Tree Oil is an absolute marvel for just about anything that occurs on the outside of the body. It should be in every medicine cabinet.

  127. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘The only regret I have is that I rolled over’

    That’s actually fair enough, Liability Bob. If you’d had the courage of your convictions you would have done your two years like a man and come out with a clear conscience. THEN you’d have something worth trapping off about all the time.

    And then you’d get respect, from me at least. It’s the weaselly ways you dogged it repeatedly that stick in the craw, along with painting yourself as some sort of noble victim.

    And I’ll never bag National Servicemen.

    Except you, because you don’t count, because all you’ve ever served is your own self-interest.

  128. zyconoclast

    The Vietnamese were never a threat to Australia.

    ..
    Neither were the Germans.

    Arky
    #3154012, posted on September 12, 2019 at 4:16 pm
    Nor the Italians.

    Nor Afghanistan, Iraq, (current) North Korea…

  129. Knuckle Dragger

    Two years in the bin, to clarify.

  130. Arky

    existential threat from the Japanese

    ..
    The existential threat is your commie mates who systematically murder whole categories of people.

  131. JC

    Jezebel was mocking me a few summers ago because I complained about coral cutting into a toe finding it had become infected. The slob went on about for months about as she does in her unique way. Now we find out she’s a toe specialist handing out treatments for various problems and informing us she has chronic fungus infection.

    Two thoughts come to mind. Disgusting and hypocrisy.

  132. Geriatric Mayfly

    Excellent! We can disconnect the interconnector then so that no naughty carboniferous electrons can contaminate their glorious achievement.

    And the Snowy might disconnect itself given the sorry state of Lake Eucumbene; the major storage for a good percentage of Canberra’s beaut, clean, green electrickery.

  133. 1735099

    Neither were the Germans

    Not in WW1, unless you include the possibility of threat to Oz mandated territory in PNG had they overwhelmed the Brits.
    As for WW2, there were at least 645 sailors on 19th November 1941 who would probably argue, had they survived, that they were a threat, as would the RAAF and RAN personnel who fought in the European theatre.

  134. Arky

    Here, have some apricot chicken jerky.
    No, no, take some, I have heaps more.

  135. Infidel Tiger

    Eagles geared up for finals again.

  136. JC

    Dapper Happer
    #3154027, posted on September 12, 2019 at 4:32 pm

    “I wonder what that dear sweet Philomena is up to these days? Still bicycling in the Tuscan fields lathered up in olive oil perhaps.”

    I wonder too. She is a complete sweety and a prickly pear at the same time. Very loveable girl.

    A real sweatie…. whoops I mean sweetie.

    I’ve wondered if it’s a chicken and egg situation here. What’s chasing what because the site has had a really checkered history of mentally unstable females and the score is far to high to be just a random statistical cluster of mental instability.

  137. Natural Instinct

    When our Federal politicians consider improving/stabilising by implementing 4 year fixed terms:
    .

    And yet Corbyn voted down Boris’ motion for a general election – because the Opposition Leader is determined to force the Government to enact not its own but the Opposition’s policy

    ~Why is Corbyn doing this? Isn’t an Opposition Leader supposed to bring down the Prime Minister so he can force an election and replace the bloke? Yes, but Corbyn would lose that election, and Boris would likely win.

    It is Mr Speaker Bercow — in general because the Speaker must be impartial, and he isn’t; in particular because he keeps trashing the rule by which the government controls the business of the House. This really has upset the balance of the system. The British tradition, eloquently expounded by Jacob Rees-Mogg in his speech in parliament on Tuesday night, is that we are governed through the House of Commons, not that the House of Commons is the government. Once the Commons tries to become the government, no one can function as prime minister, so a general election becomes necessary.

    Bercow is an appalling partisan travesty of a Speaker and a disgrace to his office. But I would also blame another – David Cameron, the modish twerp who gave Britain the Fixed Term Parliaments Act … this alleged “modernization” of the system has, in fact, wrecked it. In the old days, Boris would have gone to the Palace and said, “Your Majesty, I can command no majority in the House, and so your Government cannot govern. Put Corbyn in or call an election.” Now he requires a two-thirds majority of the House to get that election, and the House won’t give it him because they wish to hold him hostage in his inability to govern.

    So one supposedly modest “reform” by Cameron, its virtues obvious to all right-thinking people, has wrecked the balance of centuries. The Mother of Parliaments is now, as the rappers would say, the Muthaf***er of Parliaments: It is not a becoming sight.
    .

  138. JC

    WALL ST: STOP HER!
    WARREN TOPS POLL

    That’s Drudge.

    Warren can turn out to be a serious problem going ahead.

  139. Mother Lode

    And about a hundred Indian restaurants, it seems.

    I understand the local Maccas runs an internship program for students from the Philippines.

    Apparently it was chosen because the area has a customer service who is a cantankerous crotchety old sphincter utterly without peer. Any students who can graduate from that course will no trouble dealing with robberies, riots, or outbreaks of Ching-Chong kung-fu fighting.

  140. Infidel Tiger

    WALL ST: STOP HER!
    WARREN TOPS POLL

    Wall Street hating her is her greatest asset.

    The best endorsement a candidate can get is to be despised by those sewer dwelling filthbats.

  141. Oh come on

    John Bolton said what??

    BOLTON: Yes, I think that’s what denuclearization means. We have very much in mind the Libya model from 2003, 2004. There are obviously differences. The Libyan program was much smaller, but that was basically the agreement that we made.

    Trump brought this up in a recent presser. Now, Bolton isn’t a stupid man. He was sending a clear message to the Norks by suggesting the Libya model would work as well for fatty Kim as it did for Gaddafi. He doesn’t want an arrangement with the Norks. He wants war. Thank goodness he’s gone.

  142. Mark from Melbourne

    Eagles geared up for finals again.

    To elaborate on IT’s cryptic post, Willie Rioli of the Wet Toast has been “withdrawn” after “allegedly” tampering with a urine sample.

    We await the Doomlord’s commentary…

  143. JC

    Artie

    That’s well and good. But all that would happen is that the economy would go into a tailspin and remain in a moribund state just like Japan, which has seen no growth for the past 30 years. Japan was the first cab off the rank in terms of going through a deep fin crisis in the early 90s. The government and the regulators threw the kitchen sink at the banking system and they ended up with negligible growth for 30 years. A financialized economy with a healthy banking system showing loan growth is an economy doing well.

    It’s not only Japan, but a decent portion of continental Europe chugging along like an east European made Skoda is because of a zombi banking system.

    Warren is a very serious contender and potentially the world’s asset markets could be in serious trouble. You may end up regretting hating Wall Street and could end up “re-loving” all over again.

  144. Arky

    Donald J. Trump

    Verified account

    @realDonaldTrump
    8h8 hours ago
    More
    ….on October 1st, we have agreed, as a gesture of good will, to move the increased Tariffs on 250 Billion Dollars worth of goods (25% to 30%), from October 1st to October 15th.

    ..
    The anniversary of the installation of a communist regime is reason to increase tariffs you fucking moron, not delay them.

  145. Oh come on

    Great song that, Dapper.

  146. Tel

    Dave Chappelle only tells one joke … he tells the same joke with different background scenery … but against all odds it keeps getting funnier every time he tells it.

    If you think Evolution is improbable, then what’s the chance of a major segment of society dedicating their entire lives to confirming the premise of Chappelle’s one joke?

    Sure, strictly speaking by the laws of Physics, atoms and molecules have no sense of purpose … but to stand back and see it happening, you could swear this is exactly what they are trying to do. It might all be an illusion … but it’s convincing.

  147. Johno

    The number two on the gun always had rounds draped round his neck, and they were often shared out with others in the section.

    You halfwit.How the bloody hell could you carry a belt of M60 around the neck? Did you just read that in a Phantom Comic? If you carried M60 belts criss cross like Pancho Villa the links would stretch and cause a stoppage. Boofhead I carried 4 belts of M60 and the rest of the section carried another 4 belts between them.

    Some gunners had a thousand rounds in the section.

    Just stop talking your infantile propaganda here. Your did one op in SVN,then you went sooky LaLa to Sir and got a Pogo job in the company. 5 months later you were transferred to Admin Coy.End of story you clown.

  148. 1735099

    And then you’d get respect, from me at least. It’s the weaselly ways you dogged it repeatedly that stick in the craw, along with painting yourself as some sort of noble victim.

    The last thing I need is respect from the likes of you.
    I dogged nothing. I did my service as best I could.
    You can peruse my record anytime you want.
    Just ask Sinc.
    In the meantime, stop posting fantasy.
    You’re making a fool of yourself.
    I’m not “noble”, and certainly not a victim.
    I’m a survivor.
    I did a bloody sight more than 93% of my generation*, and have contributed since, and I’m proud of my service as a teacher and advocate.
    If you want to get personal, apart from selling hot dogs, and playing soldiers during peacetime, what’s your contribution to the greater good?

    *804286 registered; 63000 conscripted; 15300 served in Vietnam.

  149. Oh come on

    I see Numpty is demanding KD contact Sinc to get some crap of Numpty’s off him, then Sinc is going to confirm some crap to Numpty – and generally go to weird lengths to help Numpty vent his spleen.

    Has it ever crossed Numpty’s tiny mind that Sinc would have far better things to do than assist Numpty to prove whatever tedious point he’s trying to make? Ffs. Get a grip you silly old fool.

  150. Johno

    You said you could verify your amazing record. Nah, doesn’t work like that. The record would show that you were in Bravo coy for 5 months ,then you transfered to Admin Coy. You have only ever mentioned one op, that was the first and only one. Then it was cups of coffe and and a legs up back at N.D. The rifles would have been glad to see the back of you, then they could claim a Reo and relieve the sections.

    For Gods sake stop making a clown of yourself and just piss off.

  151. JC

    Warren

    Wall Street is looting the economy and Washington is helping them do it,” Warren writes in a Medium post outlining the proposal. “To raise wages, help small businesses, and spur economic growth, we need to shut down the Wall Street giveaways and rein in the financial industry so it stops sucking money out of the rest of the economy.”

    Okay lets take a look.

    Firms are going to the private equity markets because the equity markets after Dodd Frank became impossibly over-regulated and the cost of listing is enormous.

    Warren’s plan is expansive, with ideas touching virtually every corner of the financial sector. One of the proposal’s most robust features is a new regulatory infrastructure for the private equity industry, which buys and restructures companies and, unlike larger financial firms and banks, is subject to weak oversight.

    Warren notes that in the process of restructuring companies, private equity firms often make decisions that prioritize their own profits over the health of the company they’ve just purchased, by selling off assets, firing workers, slashing costs, charging high management fees, or saddling the companies with new debt. If the acquired businesses eventually fail, the private equity firm still keeps their profits. Warren calls this “legalized looting.”

    Warren believes that PE firms buying beaten up assets re-engineering them is looting.

    She proposes a series of legal changes to shift private equity’s incentives, by enacting rules so that private equity firms can only profit when the companies they control do well. Warren would also require private equity to fulfill pension obligations at the purchased companies, rein in private equity’s high management fees, and discourage institutions from lending to companies owned by private-equity firms that already hold massive debt.

    Warren also suggests changing the tax code so that the private equity industry pays more taxes both on the debt it buys, and on the profits its executives reap. Thanks to the carried-interest loophole, those profits are currently taxed as capital gains, rather than earned income, giving private equity bosses an enormous tax savings. In doing so Warren is proposing to make good on a promise once made by President Donald Trump, who campaigned on closing the carried-interest loophole but has made no moves to do so.

    That will destroy dynamism. It will just kill the bright side of the US economy, which incidentally are not the the large listed firms.

    Large banking firms are set up as holding companies and deposits taken in the commercial bank sector cannot be co-mingled with their trading operations. But no matter, Warren wants to introduce a break up of the large banks and regulate even further.

    Beyond private equity, Warren’s plan includes steps to tighten banking regulation. She proposes breaking up big banks, by separating the commercial banking functions that manage regular accounts from bank arms that oversee high-risk investments. Commercial banks receive government-subsidized deposit insurance in order to affordably serve people. Warren argues that bank’s investment arms should not be benefiting from this taxpayer-funded aid.

    and

    Other proposals released today include a system of low-cost postal banking, aimed at improving access to bank accounts for the approximately 25 percent of U.S. families who either don’t have accounts, or do but still rely on services outside of traditional banking, like payday loans.

    Warren also proposes imposing new rules on bankers’ compensation to discourage them from making highly-risky investments. She also pledges to appoint regulators who will undo the Trump administration’s easing of key safety measures imposed on banks after the financial crisis.

    “Trump-appointed regulators have chipped away at the rules for big banks, asserting that they limit the potential for economic growth and hoping that nobody understands these technical rules well enough to push back,” she writes. “Well I do understand them. I know that these rules not only make the financial system safer, but also channel big bank activity into more economically productive ends.”

    All good for an economy teetering in permafrost. But there’s more.

    That’s just banking. She also wants to clobber the other US bright spot, which is energy production by being a fully signed on tribal member of the Green New Deal.

  152. Gab

    Don’t know who you are, Johno, but I’ve grown very fond of you in the last few minutes.

  153. Arky

    Firing Bolton is a mistake if it means a complete withdrawal from Afghanistan.
    Afghanistan should be permanently garrisoned. The US should make no bones about it: “We are here for good”.
    Trump’s job is to make no new wars.
    Not to let go the progress made in the previous mistakes.

  154. classical_hero

    Arky, President Trump is showing he’s willing to negotiate. He did a similar thing with the Democrats on DACA,and yet they refused to negotiate. He won that round and if the Chinese don’t negotiate then they are in serious trouble.

  155. Johno

    G’Day Gab, Hows it going? Alright?

  156. Infidel Tiger

    Firing Bolton is a mistake if it means a complete withdrawal from Afghanistan.
    Afghanistan should be permanently garrisoned. The US should make no bones about it: “We are here for good”.

    Most ridiculous thing ever said on this miserable and failed blog.

  157. johanna

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #3154024, posted on September 12, 2019 at 4:28 pm

    The ACT Government is believed to be just weeks away from announcing it has achieved its target of 100 per cent renewable electricity use across the territory, making it Australia’s first jurisdiction to do so.

    Excellent! We can disconnect the interconnector then so that no naughty carboniferous electrons can contaminate their glorious achievement.

    The toytown greenies are lying – what they do is get power from outside the ACT when it is needed. From coal fired power stations.

    As Des and I have discussed many times, it’s like the ‘No Waste by 2010’ emblazoned garbage trucks still circulating in 2013.

    Here’s the thing. The ACT and surrounds have a lot of sensitive locations for national security purposes, plus Parliament House and associated departments. If those fairies at the bottom of the garden in the ACT Legislative Assembly imagine that they are going to be allowed to endanger power supplies with their mad hippie ideas, they can think again.

    I lived there for 20 years, and now live in adjoining Queanbeyan. Our power networks are over-engineered to buggery, for the reasons mentioned above. There is zero chance that they will ever be left to the vagaries of ‘renewables.’ Zip, zilch, naught.

    Those poor buggers in SA who lost power for days in the middle of summer had the misfortune of not hosting critical incident facilities.

  158. Gab

    Hope CL doesn’t see my comment. He’ll get all hurrumphy.

  159. Arky

    Arky, President Trump is showing he’s willing to negotiate.

    ..
    Don’t do that on the anniversary of a regime that murdered upwards of 60 million of it’s own people. Probably more.

  160. cohenite

    The ACT Government is believed to be just weeks away from announcing it has achieved its target of 100 per cent renewable electricity use across the territory, making it Australia’s first jurisdiction to do so.

    I got a nose bleed when I read this; comments on this blog should be rated for inducing extreme mental stress from having to read stupidity never seen before.

    Dapper, are you are Turing Machine?

  161. JC

    I posted this in the earlier comment. It’s more than Dodd Frank.

    Firms are going to the private equity markets because the equity markets after Dodd Frank became impossibly over-regulated and the cost of listing is enormous.

    There was Sabarnes Oxley just after the tech crash that ab resolutely chocked the public equity markets (raising).

  162. Arky

    Most ridiculous thing ever said on this miserable and failed blog.

    ..
    Infidel Tiger
    #1932137, posted on January 31, 2016 at 10:22 am
    Trump has the highest unfavourablity rating Gallup has ever recorded:

    He will almost certainly win the Republican primary but I just can’t see how he would the big dance.

  163. calli

    Real meats with sugary stuff.
    Raspberry beef, or apricot lamb.

    Apricot chicken
    Pork and prunes
    Lamb and mint jelly
    Turkey with cranberries
    Duck and orange

    Seventies tucker.

  164. Leigh Lowe

    The two Brits in the Iranian jail are not quite as unlucky … yet … as the two cyclists for peace who got stabbed to death by ISIS in Tajikistan.


    Give us new experiences they said.

  165. Apricot chicken
    Pork and prunes
    Lamb and mint jelly
    Turkey with cranberries
    Duck and orange

    Seventies tucker.

    Crispy bacon with maple syrup – lush

  166. JC

    He will almost certainly win the Republican primary but I just can’t see how he would the big dance.

    There could be similar to what we saw here. 30 polls plus showing the libs would lose and Liars lining up new curtains for their offices. Maybe… The US is harder to pick because you also have to figure out who’s showing up to vote.

  167. None

    Look, I would never use a drone to fly over anyone’s home and photograph them. I’d be mighty reluctant to do that anywhere over private or government property. And that’s here in Australia. So all I can say is those two fuckwits are Jolie Firkin stupid. What the hell were they thinking trying that schtick in Iran? Oh wait yes they want to tell us we were all such horrid people for saying horrid things about Iran. They can rot in jail for all I care. Best place for stupid people.

  168. None

    I lived there for 20 years, and now live in adjoining Queanbeyan. Our power networks are over-engineered to buggery, for the reasons mentioned above. There is zero chance that they will ever be left to the vagaries of ‘renewables.’ Zip, zilch, naught.

    Turn off their interconnector to non-renewable supply sources. I hope the whole fucking place sinks.

  169. cohenite

    Some farmers market attendees in Alexandria, Virginia, were angered by the sight of open carry demonstrators on Saturday.

    The supporters, who were part of “The Right to Bear Arms Richmond,” openly carried rifles and handguns at the market.

    I never worry about other people carrying guns; as long as I’m carrying too.

  170. Oh come on

    Now, here’s the plan, ok, Knuckles? Numpty is going to send Sinc a 15 page document written in code, and will also send the decoder sheet. Seven other regular commenters are going to each send a different 15 page coded document to Sinc. Sinc needs to decode each one of these seven documents, and then count how many times the letter ‘t’ is found in each document. The document with the fourth highest number of ‘t’s is the one. Sinc will then create a complex code, encode that particular document and forward it to you. After that, Sinc will fly to a series of countries whereby he will destroy the remaining documents and decoder sheets – each document and decoder sheet will be thrown into a different volcano.

    I’m sure that’s not too much trouble for Sinc. Better safe than sorry.

  171. Arky

    On Trump:

    ..
    Infidel Tiger
    #1955696, posted on February 23, 2016 at 11:21 pm

    On nearly all the issues worth fighting for he is a left wing nutter. Taxes, abortion, welfare, entitlements, healthcare, trade, you name it, he’s as bad as Sanders.

  172. Infidel Tiger

    ..
    Infidel Tiger
    #1932137, posted on January 31, 2016 at 10:22 am
    Trump has the highest unfavourablity rating Gallup has ever recorded:

    He will almost certainly win the Republican primary but I just can’t see how he would the big dance.

    I misunderestimated the Russian factor.

  173. Arky

    Just looking for some tigger Brexit quotes…
    Wait. Wait.

  174. Infidel Tiger

    Infidel Tiger
    #1955696, posted on February 23, 2016 at 11:21 pm

    On nearly all the issues worth fighting for he is a left wing nutter. Taxes, abortion, welfare, entitlements, healthcare, trade, you name it, he’s as bad as Sanders.

    I’m the greatest troll this blog has ever known and I’ve never been banned.

  175. 1735099

    You halfwit.How the bloody hell could you carry a belt of M60 around the neck?

    Just for you, old mate, is a picture taken in April 1970 of my platoon from B Company, 7th RAR. We were being briefed by Lt Doug Gibbons, prior to patrolling near a feature called the “bone”.
    If you look closely at the pic, you’ll notice that Charlie Tilmouth (2nd right) is wearing a belt of M60 around his neck as was at least one other digger (Shorty Hooker – 4th from the right).
    A few hours later, Charlie Tilmouth was wounded when one half of the patrol encountered an occupied bunker system. Charlie’s survived and was RTA’d. He’s died since, but Shorty’s still around and would explain to you how he managed to carry a belt around his neck if you asked him.
    Let me know if you’re still curious.
    I can get in touch with him.
    And by the way, that story about “every Nasho who served in Vietnam was a volunteer” is bullshit.

  176. calli

    That’s because of your relentless charm, IT.

  177. Roger

    The toytown greenies are lying – what they do is get power from outside the ACT when it is needed. From coal fired power stations.

    Lying, you say?

    Surely the Press will question them on this…?

  178. a mistake if it means a complete withdrawal from Afghanistan

    No.
    It’s a master stroke.
    Remove all Americans and then glass the place.

    Can return in a few years and use the place as a skating rink.

  179. Arky

    I miss the generation who came back from war and shut the hell up about it.
    Smart enough to know that civilians have zero idea what you are on about, and that anyone who does understand probably isn’t impressed.

  180. Infidel Tiger

    Got it. Makes me feel like a damn fool. But me and my country are in trouble now Nothing is funny any more.

    I never trolled you sir.

    Sometimes I get bored and want lively conversation.

  181. Gab

    So sorry, Dapper, busy doing other stuff. Stay well xx

  182. Arky

    Crispy bacon with maple syrup – lush

    ..
    I’ve done that.
    Not proud of it.

  183. Stimpson J. Cat

    What about mentally unstable males. I am not angry any more. And I should be welcomed back.

    Oh for f$cks sake.
    Just imagine I’m doing a Welcome To Catallaxy Country interpretive dance on behalf of my Mentally Unstable Male First Peoples.
    And here’s a Hug.
    You can stay Dapper Jesus Christ.
    Welcome Back.

  184. Johno

    Sniffy, that pic shows a platoon in O Group. No webbing, etc. They are not tooled up. You weren’t there. A belt of M60 rounds cris crossed on shoulders would tear the crap out of your back when you put the pack on.
    You know nothing, you halfwit. Go away. No-one gives a shit about you and your recovered memories. We all carried M60 rounds in pouches or packs. Just admit you have stolen the stories of soldiers to cover up your cowardice. Go away.
    It was good when you were banned from the SVN tirade. What has happened?

  185. Old School Conservative

    From today’s Telegraph:
    In an ABC opinion piece, Caro was scathing of the private system.

    “Universal, secular, public education provided by taxpayers, open to all children regardless of their parentage, religion or circumstances, remains the best mechanism any society has ever come up with for narrowing the gaps between kids and their opportunities,” she wrote.

    She was THAT close to saying indoctrinated into Marxism. THAT close!

  186. classical_hero

    There are numerous problems with abiogenesis. First is the chirality problem, which is that molecules are either ‘left handed’ or ‘right handed’. All DNA is right handed and the problem is that in the supposed primordial soup they were 50/50 of each hand, making it impossible by blind chance for all of the same hand to join together.

    Another problem is oxygen. If you have it available then it will oxidize organic material and make it non biological. This is an important thing because it allows the body to break down organic compounds into things the body needs. But this will stop any formation of life. But also without oxygen you don’t have an ozone layer to protect from UV radiation.

    Another problem is water. As mentioned earlier it will dissolve compounds into the simpler elements. This is a necessary function for life to function, but not to first.

    But the biggest problem is information and precisely how to read the information. It’s the famous chicken vs egg problem. To read the information contained in the DNA you need a cell to read it. But the information to produce the cell is found in the DNA. They both have to be around at the same time to function.

    Another problem with information is that is that each creature has different information and to get there is like going from English to Chinese. Doing it gradually you’ll get gibberish because the codes of the different languages are vastly different. Also you can have the same code, but the language meaning can be different. Take the word ‘gift’, in English it means a present but in German it means poison. Even the same code but different way how it is read shows how different life is.

  187. John Constantine

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-12/rural-stroke-outcomes-far-worse-than-metropolitan-areas/11487930

    woke up to go to the bathroom, but collapsed before he got there.

    The next 24 hours changed the course of his and his family’s lives.

    Mr Vernon got to the hospital in less than half an hour but, despite presenting with signs of a stroke, Mr Vernon’s wife Denny Vernon said he only underwent ECG (heart) and blood pressure tests.

    Ms Vernon said without a CT (Computerised Tomography) scan machine the doctor was unsure of a diagnosis and left him in a dark room overnight.

    Data from the Australian Institute for Health and Welfare showed hospitalisation for cardiovascular disease is 35 per cent higher in remote and very remote areas than major cities.

    The Stroke Foundation, the peak advocacy body, said if you have a stroke in the regions, you will be far worse off.

  188. johanna

    calli
    #3154082, posted on September 12, 2019 at 5:36 pm

    Real meats with sugary stuff.
    Raspberry beef, or apricot lamb.

    Apricot chicken
    Pork and prunes
    Lamb and mint jelly
    Turkey with cranberries
    Duck and orange

    Seventies tucker.

    How did you go with the Weedathon? I briefly thought about joining you, but then looked at the weeds and decided to play heavy metal music and pop hits of the 70s instead. Right decision.

    BTW, I had a look at the life cycle of dandelions recently. The received wisdom doesn’t fit with my experience – my dandelions do the whole thing in a couple of days. But, do google dandelion life cycles if you are interested. The time lapse photos of a flower turning into a ball of fluffy seeds are amazing.

    That’s where I diverge from the ‘it’s just not possible’ crowd. Tadpoles become frogs, caterpillars become butterflies, and yellow flowers become balls of fluff.

    Truth is stranger than fiction.

    Oh, and if you buy a reputable brand of mango chutney and douse chicken or pork in it before frying, your joy will be unconfined. Yum yum!

  189. Old School Conservative

    Arky.
    Deepest apologies.
    Many…..many minutes of laughing at your misfortunes today.
    Sorry.

  190. Stimpson J. Cat

    We have a country to save. Sorry abut the melodrama. But in the end we have to hardline it.

    No, you don’t.
    Save yourself first, then whoever is in front if you that needs help at the time.
    Baby steps.
    Big picture is always last.

  191. johanna

    Wow, I just posted about getting rid of weeds and using mango chutney in cooking, and have been caught in the spaminator.

    Nefariousness is all around us, it seems.

  192. Arky

    Old School Conservative
    #3154120, posted on September 12, 2019 at 6:13 pm

    ..
    It wasn’t comedy.
    I’m offended by your finding my pain entertaining.
    I’m calling the HRC.

  193. feelthebern

    It’s official.
    I’m a survivor.

    Numbers, this is for you.

  194. 1735099

    They are not tooled up. You weren’t there.

    Except I was there. I’m the soldier with his back to the camera immediately to the right of Gibbo (with the pointer in his hand).
    We weren’t “tooled up” as you call it, because we were wearing basic webbing only.
    (By the way, nobody I served with uses that expression).

    A belt of M60 rounds cris crossed on shoulders

    If you look at the pic you’ll note that the belt is not cris crossed, as you put it, but draped around Charlie’s neck and hanging in front. That was how the belt was carried. The photographic evidence is there. You’re the one with the recovered memory issues.
    We split up into two 10 man patrols and left our gear back in the Coy position.
    We were operating as a Company, and spread out along the banks of the Song Rai, in small half platoon patrols.

    No-one gives a shit about you and your recovered memories.

    And I don’t give a shit about your mythology, and the nonsensical crap you make up about my service.
    My offer to Gomer is extended to you.
    Everything I post about my time in Vietnam is accurate, and if you’ve read my book (and it seems you have) you’ll know that. That honesty is a problem for you, of course, as it doesn’t fit with the mythology that has developed since.
    Request a copy of my service record from Sinc, and I’ll mail it to him.
    And post your regimental number – that’s a good lad…..

  195. feelthebern

    Do pro bono advocates have a certification or registration number?
    Genuine question.

  196. Stimpson J. Cat

    I miss the generation who came back from war and shut the hell up about it.

    You mean the dead ones.
    Not big on conversation those boys.
    No bragging, very humble indeed.
    I have a tremendous amount of respect for them.

  197. Tel

    Infidel Tiger #1932137, posted on January 31, 2016 at 10:22 am

    Trump has the highest unfavourablity rating Gallup has ever recorded:

    Back in the days when people still believed polls. Wow … it’s only yesterday but you lose track of how fast the world keeps changing.

  198. Arky

    “Hello? HRC?
    Someone laughed at my pain and made me feel bad.
    No. I’m not.
    No. Not that either.
    No.
    No.
    Oh God! No!
    What do you mean you can’t help me? I’m a human ain’t I”?

  199. feelthebern

    I’m not “noble”, and certainly not a victim.
    I’m a survivor.
    I did a bloody sight more than 93% of my generation*, and have contributed since, and I’m proud of my service as a teacher and advocate.

    numbers greatest summary of his own greatness ever.

  200. Stimpson J. Cat

    What can I say Stimpson but “Bravo” I’m in big trouble right now. Thanks for your kindness and patience.

    Don’t waste time here talking to us degenerates.
    1. Get a job.
    2. Get fit.
    3. Buy denim shorts.

    Then come back.

    Everyone will still be here they are very old, boring and predictable.

  201. John Constantine

    He had the stroke at 1:00am on December 5, 2013 and was in hospital within 30 minutes.

    But on arrival, the rural doctor could not determine whether it was a clot or bleed.

    Bill was left overnight waiting for a transfer scheduled for 8:30am the next day.

    He was taken to the larger Bunbury Hospital early at 6:30am, but by then it was too late to have a clot-dissolving thrombolysis injection administered.

    The delay in his diagnoses meant Mr Vernon became severely disabled, initially bedridden and unable to talk.

    The golden hour for treatment of stroke victims does not exist in rural areas, and any attempt to access this ‘golden hour’ treatment is crushed by a system not set up for it.

    Could tell a story of a bloke with a stroke delivered by private vehicle to a functioning rural hospital, but because no doctor was on duty to sign off on treatment, or authorise an ambulance to a bigger hospital down south, he had to be sent by ambulance forty minutes north to a hospital where a doctor could sign off and authorise him to be sent back south for proper treatment.

    Without a doctor signing off, the first hospital would be liable for some costs out of its own budget apparently. When it was suggested that a private car could have him down at a real hospital before all the bullshit was authorised up in bizzaroland, the response was that the man was obviously too sick to be discharged from medical care and it was kidnapping to grab him and go.

  202. Old School Conservative

    Numbers, I’m just a lucky lad whose number didn’t come up back in the day.
    Just an average Australian who has enjoyed the fruits of this wonderful country.
    I respect all who served on our behalf, and have admiration for many of them

    You are seriously diminishing the image I have of dedicated warriors in Australian uniform.

  203. John Constantine

    It seems every second bloke that drinks a bit that uses the bowel test mailout kit finishes with being probed up the clacker, but haven’t heard of anybody actually being saved by a discovery yet.

  204. johanna

    Nice of you to highlight Our Lizzie, Calli.

  205. John Constantine

    He got to the nearest hospital at Dysart by ambulance in about 45 minutes.

    Mr Blackwell said when he arrived, the paramedic told the doctor he suspected Mr Blackwell was having a subarachnoid haemorrhage — a bleed in the brain.

    “They put me straight into one of the rooms,” he said.

    “The doctor came and had a look and at that point as far as I knew the doctor said they were treating me for dehydration and a migraine.”

    The next morning, about 14 hours later, Mr Blackwell was discharged without treatment or a diagnosis.

    He caught a lift with a friend to Emerald, around an hour-and-a-half drive, to where the doctor had ordered another brain scan at 2:00pm the day after his stroke.

    It was inconclusive.

    At the time Mr Blackwell’s family was living in Brisbane and he needed to get to them.

    Around 45 hours after having a stroke, still untreated, he got on a plane — an extremely dangerous move for a patient with a brain bleed.

    Soon after landing he was taken to hospital in Brisbane and this time was told he had had a stroke.

    “When I spoke to the neurosurgeon at RBH [Royal Brisbane Hospital] she was actually surprised I had survived the flight down,” Mr Blackwell said.

    “Normally they say once you’ve had a brain bleed it [flying] would just make it worse.”

    Mr Blackwell’s fitness and memory suffered and he was not able to work for several months.

    “You go from being that fit to not even being able to walk 50m without having to sit down.

    Mr Blackwell said his case could have been a lot worse and that the system needed to improve.

    “I’m more annoyed than anything. I did survive and it could happen to somebody else and they might not survive,” he said.

  206. JC

    Johanna
    #3154140, posted on September 12, 2019 at 6:32 pm

    Nice of you to highlight Our Lizzie, Calli.

    Bad pie day. A very, very bad pie day.

  207. JC

    Artie, you’re pal’s back at it again.

    Two major developments are set to transform the building and banking industries in Australia.

    First, a single set of dramatic building approval decisions in Sydney has not only transformed the outlook for residential building construction in our largest city, but boosted the national outlook.

    Last Friday three massive Sydney apartment complexes were given the approval go-ahead and Harry Triguboff’s Meriton will immediately proceed with developing all three in a $3 billion project – the biggest apartment building operation in Australia’s history.

    Second, there has been a surge in the buying of apartments by Australian residents in the past two months as part of a nationwide scramble to invest in residential property, fanned by the Reserve Bank’s lower interest rate policy.

  208. Atoms for Peace

    One thing that grey nomads may not realise, but the small towns that they winter in do not have all of the gadgets in the local hospital. There are also interstate impediments as to who receives physio etc after an event. As for towing huge rigs that are weighed down with medical care plans and Webster packs, well that is a mystery

  209. feelthebern

    Indigenous players should be allowed concessions when it comes to drug testing.
    ASADA appears to be a racist organisation.
    Treating indigenous players the same as everyone else is exactly what the Adam Goodes movie is trying to stamp out.

  210. areff

    small towns that they winter in do not have all of the gadgets in the local hospital

    Was in Mallacoota recently and chinwagging at the pub with a local, who was asked why there seemed to be so many properties on the market.

    The sea/tree changers come here to retire, he said, start succumbing to slow ravages of age and realise beyond-basic medical care is a couple of hours’ drive away, possibly more.

    So they sell up and leave.

  211. cohenite

    I’m the soldier with his back to the camera immediately to the right of Gibbo

    You’ve got a pin head.

  212. Stimpson J. Cat

    Sorry, quick question for all my Catallaxy Sane People on behalf of my Mentally Unstable People :

    R U OK?

    Ha ha ha ja ja ha ja ha ja ja ja ha!!!!!!

  213. cohenite

    Watch The Gun Debate Between Ted Cruz and Alyssa Milano

    I couldn’t get past her declaration she’d woke up with a panic attack. Maybe she fucks the guy next to her who would easily weigh about 400 lbs. Someone watch it and tell me how Cruz went:

    https://videos.whatfinger.com/2019/09/11/watch-the-gun-debate-between-ted-cruz-and-alyssa-milano/

  214. Tintarella di Luna

    Gab if you’re around please check your email – a quizzical cat in need.

  215. hzhousewife

    It seems every second bloke that drinks a bit that uses the bowel test mailout kit finishes with being probed up the clacker, but haven’t heard of anybody actually being saved by a discovery yet.

    My husband was.
    Do the test, chickens.

  216. Johno

    Sniffy, You never left the “Funny Country”. You have spent 50 years trying to explain your cowardice.

    You really are a boring boofhead. I did two tours , saw a few pogos like you. Didn’t pay them much attention, the only reason I respond to you is because you are such a complete and utter fool.

    You harvest slides and photos , edit them to suit your narrative, collect stories from like minded dip sticks.

    I came back to OZ, was given a medical discharge , two years ahead of sign -on.

    I then entered the work force and did very well.never mentioned the “Funny Country”, no-one was interested.
    I used to visit Tim Blair when it was open slather. Then you appeared , and got your arse kicked, repeatedly,honestly funny as fuck.
    Eventually Tim just said “Go”
    Then you appear here? Are you 12? You can’t compete. Go away.

  217. JC

    This is hilarious. The RBA is easing monetary policy because it was too tight in the past and we have a worrying slowdown in the economy. Meanwhile, the real estate market is correcting back after discounting a Liar party win and all that entailed with respect to assets markets/higher taxes.

    Lowe is hounding the government to spend more cash because he believes that would avoid the bank easing more due to offset .. fiscal/monetary policy.

    What he doesn’t tell the government what is needed instead of a huge fiscal spendathon. Enact massive deregulation throughout the economy from the labor markets, to finance to mining, oil and gas and real estate. This would do the trick. Do it all in one fell swoop.

  218. Old Lefty

    On science, religion etc, just to show that a few decent scholars do manage (somehow) to survive in the ruins of our universities

    https://fivebooks.com/best-books/history-science-and-religion-peter-harrison/

  219. 1735099

    You are seriously diminishing the image I have of dedicated warriors in Australian uniform.

    That’s OK.
    It’s generally a bullshit image, after all.
    Think of Monash.
    That should help.

  220. Dr Faustus

    The ACT Government is believed to be just weeks away from announcing it has achieved its target of 100 per cent renewable electricity use across the territory, making it Australia’s first jurisdiction to do so.

    An economic triumph.

    The ACT Government tells us that:

    ACT has bought 640MW of renewable capacity from projects around East Coast Australia – only 40MW of which is located in Canberra.

    This power has been bought at a fixed average price of $90/MWh (the 40MW of ACT solar at $185/MWh);

    On average this 100% renewable super power is expected to be available 41% of the time.

    By comparison, the average Queensland 100% available electricity price for the past 24 hours was ~$78/MWh, mainly provided by feelthy coal.

  221. Snoopy

    I don’t get it. Australia welcomed the Shi’ite victory march through Sydney two days ago. Why hasn’t Iran released the Aussie travel bloggers?

  222. JC

    And interesting sideline about Arky’s vid posted a few days ago about those Darwinian sceptics. The bearded dude on the right (from our perspective) was wearing a glove on his right hand. He lost the hand when opening a package bomb sent by the Unabomber in the mid 90s. He’s the Yale computer science professor.

  223. dover_beach

    Our prodigal son has returned. Roll out barrel!

  224. Des Deskperson

    ‘The toytown greenies are lying – what they do is get power from outside the ACT when it is needed. From coal fired power stations.’

    Exactly, Johanna. Check out this woolly-minded, weasel-worded gibberish from ‘Minister’ Rattenbury:

    “We’ll soon reach 100% renewable electricity in the ACT, which is a great achievement,” Rattenbury said in a statement.

    “But our city will keep growing, and we’ll be transitioning buildings and vehicles to be all electric. This is expected to increase electricity consumption, so we’re contracting more renewable electricity generation to ensure we stay at 100%.”

    He said it was the ACT’s long term goal to “only use renewable electricity”, hence the need for storage, and the impending push into electric vehicles, and the phasing out of gas in buildings,

    He’s telling us, in effect, that because of all the other wonderful clean energy schemes the government has in mind that are ‘expected to increase electricity consumption’ – expected ?? – then while they might actually reach 100% renewables for maybe a couple of minutes sometime soon, the ACT”s aim to only use renewable electricity is a ‘long term goal’.

    It is, of course, unlikely that any of this will happen. It’s just more of the glossy, aspirational tosh that the ACT Labor/Greens have always fed us. I once attended a session of the ACT Legislative Assembly and heard Rattenbury describe the opposition as ‘disingenuous’ when he obviously meant ‘disingenuous’. He made the mistake several times, so it was no slip of the tongue.

  225. Roger

    File under ‘Lo! Peak stupidity is nigh’…

    Cutlery is racist.

  226. Bruce of Newcastle

    I don’t get it. Australia welcomed the Shi’ite victory march through Sydney two days ago. Why hasn’t Iran released the Aussie travel bloggers?

    Deputy sheriff. Or in this case a captain of an Anzac class frigate due to arrive off Iran in January.

  227. Des Deskperson

    ‘Rattenbury describe the opposition as ‘disingenuous’

    Sorry, ‘disingenious’

  228. mh

    Enact massive deregulation throughout the economy from the labor markets, to finance to mining, oil and gas and real estate. This would do the trick. Do it all in one fell swoop.

    I don’t think the Premiers will come to the Party, JC. Especially your one.

  229. Bruce of Newcastle

    Speaking of travel bloggers, anyone hear from DrB recently? He’s been uncharacteristically quiet.

  230. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Speaking of travel bloggers, anyone hear from DrB recently? He’s been uncharacteristically quiet.

    He should have lobbed into Perth by now.

  231. Shy Ted

    Move over Greta. Being black trumps being autistic. I suspect he’ll be doing his healing from inside a jail cell.

  232. Johno

    I really am done . I just can’t argue with this child anymore.

    I am 70 years old .Why are people of my age , so stupid? So unaware? WTF is wrong?

  233. Nick

    Speaking of travel bloggers, anyone hear from DrB recently? He’s been uncharacteristically quiet.

    I believe that in both cases, a drone was involved :)p

  234. mh

    Did Dr BG enjoy himself in Cuba?

    It didn’t shine through in his posts.

  235. Oh come on

    Remember Wassername-Schultz, the former DNC chair who rigged the 2016 Dem primary for Hillary? Here’s a couple of minutes of her copping some satisfying smackdown.

  236. Geriatric Mayfly

    Watch out lads. Double jeopardy could strike. Simultaneous Cervical & Prostate Cancers are bound to do you in.

    Clown World: Canadian Cancer Society Claims Men Without Cervixes Can Get Cervical Cancer PJ Media

  237. Oh come on

    Who are you again, Dapper? Birdie?

    Sorry to hear you’ve fallen on hard times, in any case.

  238. calli

    Does that mean I’m a candidate for prostrate cancer?

    Bummer.

  239. calli

    Lol. Inadvertent typo.

    Must be the hinge in my back playing up. Too much weeding.

  240. Entropy

    John Constantine
    #3154139, posted on September 12, 2019 at 6:32 pm
    It seems every second bloke that drinks a bit that uses the bowel test mailout kit finishes with being probed up the clacker, but haven’t heard of anybody actually being saved by a discovery yet

    Actually this week one of my staff was caught by this kit. He has a 4 cm growth in his bowel. Wasn’t there last test.

    I am doing my test kit this weekend. Haven’t bothered before.

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