Trumps’s strength is his style

Don’t know what to make of this: Trump’s Only Real Weakness Is His Style. Without his abrasive style, unwilling to let any criticism and insult go unanswered, where would he be? I actually like the punch-back-twice-as-hard style of politics, especially when the other side is filled with such moronically dangerous fools.

I said in 2016 all the way through the election that he could win, in spite of the odds and the polls. Now I say that in 2020 that he could lose, in spite of how extraordinary he has been and how well he has governed in the face of such tremendous opposition from all sides.

Nearly everyone takes everything for granted. And for most people, even if things change, they will usually only change slowly. But they do change, and often for the worse. I cannot believe how many there are out there who would like nothing better than to see PDT lose in 2020. I have zero regard for their political sense, even though some of them are amongst our best friends and closest family members.

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51 Responses to Trumps’s strength is his style

  1. Herodotus

    A bit more punch-back from our conservatives (CINOs?) would be good.

  2. HP

    “I agree with him on policy but his tweets… Ewww.”

    Yup. Recognisable.
    What to do with that type of terminally suicidal intellectual snobbery, that is convinced moral prancing and posing is what matters, not actually getting things done?

    It goes all the way back to the Primaries before the election of 2016, actually. Already at that time there were those on the right who obsessively clung to a non-achieving politician like Ted Cruz over someone who would actually DO something and achieve RESULTS like Trump.

    To me the math was simple:
    I agreed with 99.5% of Cruz’s agenda and he would get 3% of it done.
    I agreed with 85% of Trump’s agenda and he would get 70% of it done.

    No contest, as far as I am concerned: Trump any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

    But I can see how ThinkTankers could think otherwise as they tried to cling to their status and $$. That got exposed quire clearly.

  3. It could be just like in Australia. When things are going well for everyone, let’s change the government, which normally means going from Liberal to Labour.

  4. Ellen

    Is being sycophantic to autocrats like Putin, Kim, and Xi a sign of strength or of envy? And being sycophantic towards Trump who is sycophantic towards autocrats is a sign of … what?

  5. stackja

    In 1932 USA voters elected FDR to fix the economy.
    In 1952 USA voters elected Ike to fix the economy.
    In 1952 Fed Reserve created restrictive monetary policy for expected inflation into 1952, expected inflation never happened.
    2016 DT elected to fix the economy.
    2020 Fed Reserve created restrictive monetary policy for expected inflation?
    2020 USA voters elected AOC to fix the economy?

  6. candy

    Without his abrasive style, unwilling to let any criticism and insult go unanswered, where would he be.

    Not President, that’s for sure.
    The thing is his style is genuine, he’s the real deal and not faking. It is him. A lot of people respond to that, others don’t. A personal thing.
    In the end it’s the economy that matters.

  7. Russell

    The old second law of thermodynamics trick – made popular by Marx wasn’t it?
    Politicians, academics, judges, journalists, CEOs … all suffering from entropy.

  8. Colonel Crispin Berka

    We can rebuild him.
    We have the biotechnology.
    We must build a bigger, smarter, stronger, better Trump to replace him.
    What you might call… MechaTrumpzilla.

  9. Up The Workers!

    Don’t forget that Winston Churchill led Britain through its darkest hours in World War II, to a famous victory despite times when few were confident of that outcome, but when war was over, the electorate showed their gratitude by showing Churchill the door and they voted Socialist Labour and their rank and vile Unions into office.

    There are no guarantees of fairness in life.

  10. Yohan

    Trump would not have lost any working class voters if he acted in the slightest bit presidential. Instead he tweets like he is 12 years old, has no self control whatsoever, and has degraded the office of the presidency. I say this as someone who generally supports his policies.

    The working class still support him, but he has burned off all the middle/upper class suburban voters with these antics. They are not coming back, and this will make his re-election in 2020 very difficult. Yes the media lies every day about him, but this just means he needed to be extra disciplined, something he is completely incapable of.

    The only hope he has is the recent crazy turn the Democrats have taken on policy. They have opened the door to his re-election.

  11. Tim Neilson

    Is being sycophantic to autocrats like Putin, Kim, and Xi a sign of strength or of envy? And being sycophantic towards Trump who is sycophantic towards autocrats is a sign of … what?

    He lavishes empty words of praise on them when he hopes to get something out of them by doing so.
    I’ve got no problem at all with him doing that.
    If you’ve got any examples of him doing anything of substance that constitutes sycophancy towards any of them feel free to share them.

  12. Mark A

    Yohan
    #3155164, posted on September 13, 2019 at 11:38 pm

    I say this as someone who generally supports his policies.

    Fake as fake. Your postings belie your claim.
    You are denigrating him every turn.

  13. Michael K

    Amusing thread of comments. Boris has joined Trump as the enemy of the administrative state. One would think blackouts in summer would be enough to convince some people. Government in incompetent.

  14. jupes

    And being sycophantic towards Trump who is sycophantic towards autocrats is a sign of … what?

    Your dumbness.

  15. Empire 5:5

    More than four years have passed since Don descended the escalator and announced his run.

    So much water under the bridge, so much winning and still we have armchair pundits, their opinions misinformed by Media-Entertainment Complex propaganda and fixed by a general lack of curiosity, lecturing the man on how to succeed.

    He was a billionaire before he ran, backed by the military and has a majestic security clearance. What kernels of wisdom could Ellen or Yohan possibly offer 45?

    The latest Dem debate can be summarised as: everything is a human right and the only solution to any problem is to give them all the power.*

    How can the Dem candidate flip a state running on this platform? What is their path to 270?

    *h/t Eric Brandt

  16. egg_

    Trumps’s strength is his style

    +1

    Below parody actually promotes his communication skills.

  17. Zatara

    “… he has burned off all the middle/upper class suburban voters with these antics.”

    Has anyone told them yet? Because that’s going to come as a real shock to the majority of them.

  18. Empire 5:5

    45 has successfully leaned on the centre of the DNC pushing it leftwards, while at the same time harvesting minority voters for the GOP.

    The DNC centre is tottering to the radical left. There simply isn’t enough votes, even in reliably blue states, to take 270.

    The DNC debates are nothing more than a humiliating parade of world’s biggest loser.

  19. Mark M

    The Video Liberals Don’t Want You To See | Illegal Immigration

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZF0shtQKcD0

    The popcorn is ready to pop.

    From Australia, I have never been so engaged with an American President since “All the way with LBJ”, and I was just doing what I was told then.

    Numbers Show How Trump’s Tweets Drive the News Cycle
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2019/09/11/numbers_show_how_trumps_tweets_drive_the_news_cycle_141217.html

    Trump, savvy. Two words seen in same sentence regularly.

  20. Empire 5:5

    Check the approval numbers at the link:

    Like most Republicans, Trump has struggled to attract black voters, but this week’s surveying for the Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll has found a bump in black support for the president. Even with the +/-9 margin of error for the smaller sample, it’s a bump that has held up nearly all week.

    http://m.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/july_2019/trump_support_up_this_week_among_black_voters

    Krooked Killary Klinton lost in 2016 with 88% support.

    So how did African-Americans vote in the 2016 election? Despite President Obama telling black voters that he would take it as a “personal insult” if they didn’t cast their ballot for Hillary Clinton, 2016 black voters didn’t coalesce behind Clinton the same way they did Obama, with Clinton earning 88% of their vote (to Trump’s 8%) as compared to Obama’s 93% in 2012.

    https://www.mic.com/articles/159402/here-s-a-break-down-of-how-african-americans-voted-in-the-2016-election

    Kamalatoe is currently polling 1% with blacks and has donor problems. She’ running out of cash.

  21. Chris M

    but he has burned off all the middle/upper class suburban voters with these antics

    Nah, only the never Trumpers and the effeminate limp tallys. Overall it’s great!

    The jobs and the economy cruising along when Obama said it was impossible is just the icing on the cake, a daily reminder that last guy was a total loser.

  22. miltonf

    What antics? Fighting back when you and your supporters are attacked?

  23. Iampeter

    Trumps’s strength is his style

    But style over substance is not a strength…

    Get some salt. Trump supporters are making delicious mental pretzels here.

  24. Bob in Castlemaine

    Without his abrasive style, unwilling to let any criticism and insult go unanswered, where would he be?

    It’s a fair bet he would have been pretty much where the mild-mannered Mitt Romney was back in 2012, chewed up and spat out by the fake news mob.

  25. Yohan

    Fake as fake. Your postings belie your claim.
    You are denigrating him every turn.

    Let be clear, as far as Trumps policies, my criticism is he is not right wing enough.

    He has not cut taxes enough. He has not built the wall. He has not deported illegals enough (right now deportations are at 1/3rd the rate of Obama). He has not rescinded DACA and deported every DACA ‘child’ (not only wont he deport them, he has offered amnesty to them multiple times, causing the zerg rush at the families at the border starting late 2018).

  26. Muddy

    Style. Substance. Strength. Blah. Blah.
    Digressions, trivialities and irrelevance.
    Our opponents have know for decades that what matters are the results. They have shown they are prepared to consider and implement a much broader range of strategies and tactics than we, the limp ones, even acknowledge exist.
    I don’t advocate discarding a moral compass and embracing any means to an end, however we seem so frequently to distract ourselves with issues such as ‘style’ and ‘substance’ that our opponents have long-ago redefined and repackaged that we are left playing with a short piece of string and a scrap of gift-wrapping paper while brother/sister is utilising the actual gift that was contained within.
    The Peak of Moral Righteousness may have an amazing vista, but if the air up there is so thin that we cannot access enough oxygen to breathe, how can we enjoy the view?

  27. Yohan

    Has anyone told them yet? Because that’s going to come as a real shock to the majority of them.

    I should have said ‘many’ instead of ‘all’.

    The fact remains, Trump has lost a large amount of nominally conservative voters in the upper class burbs due to his unstable temperament and childish tweeting. All the GOP electoral results since 2016 show this.

    Is it lie time? Should we pretend to ourselves this is not the case? When it comes to political analysis I prefer to be real about the situation.

  28. Empire 5:5

    He has not cut taxes enough. He has not built the wall. He has not deported illegals enough (right now deportations are at 1/3rd the rate of Obama). He has not rescinded DACA and deported every DACA ‘child’ (not only wont he deport them, he has offered amnesty to them multiple times, causing the zerg rush at the families at the border starting late 2018).

    Write your congress-critter. The hostile House is focused on circus not legislating. Activist judges have obstructed EOs.

    Big win in SC this week on immigration. 150 fed judges Senate confirmed. The military has been building wall.

  29. Yohan

    Write your congress-critter. The hostile House is focused on circus not legislating. Activist judges have obstructed EOs.

    Its all true and blood boilingly infuriating. The GOP itself has sought to block his every policy on immigration enforcement. Activist judges are now encouraged to implement nationwide injunctions on the most contorted of legal reasoning.

    Even the Supreme court is following suit, see here

    https://www.conservativereview.com/news/conservatives-must-fight-judicial-supremacism-not-hang-hopes-john-roberts/

    Luckily the left has given Trump a huge leg up for 2020. They are now openly for no borders, infinity immigrants, free health care for the 3rd world, taking your guns, higher taxes e.t.c

  30. Chris M

    “He has not cut taxes enough…. not built the wall…. not deported illegals enough… not rescinded DACA”

    Goodness me, you will need to wait till the Millenium for the perfect leader my friend!

    Given the constant obstruction and blockages from Dem, Rep, media and activist judges he has achieved a massive amount. My only concerns would be along the lines of reducing spending and why Hillary and the deep state creatures are not in gaol yet.

  31. Cynic of Ayr

    I think – and this is only a think – that The Donald wants only to progress the USA. Being President isn’t something he desires as such.
    On the other hand, the Old Hag wanted to be President, just to be President. Her predecessor was exactly the same. Neither did, or would do anything to benefit the USA, just to benefit their cronies, and the rest of the World.
    The newest batch from the Democrats want to change the USA into Venezuela, simply because they believe in Venezuela, and not the USA.
    DT believes in the USA.
    I am old, and to be frank, I don’t care, almost to the point that the USA must experience the Democrats present agenda, to realise they are not the Democrats of yesteryear.
    John F. Kennedy was a Democrat. Hard to believe isn’t it?
    Does anyone with a functioning brain cell think that any one of the present bunch of Democrats even approaches Kennedy, in mind set, determination, and especially patriotism?
    JFK was a Democrat. AOC, Bernie Sanders are Democrats. Compare them!
    Now, compare then to Trump.
    The USA citizens will be doing the same.

  32. Arky

    I think the timing of the recession will be the key.
    Earlier is better.
    Once voters have processed the downturn they will figure Trump is the key to a faster recovery.
    If bad numbers are coming out in the months going into the election Trump might get caught trying to bullshit his way through them.
    If the start of the recession is pushed out past the election, it could be very nasty: complacent voters thinking they can afford to punish Trump for being abrasive, a democrat win, then recession. Total disaster!

  33. Iampeter

    Also, only at the cat does being a raving, thin skinned, crackpot get considered to be “style.”

    He has not built the wall. He has not deported illegals enough (right now deportations are at 1/3rd the rate of Obama). He has not rescinded DACA and deported every DACA ‘child’

    That would make him more left wing not right wing.
    But yes, that’s why he’s losing voters. His administration has not been as left wing as promised.

    Style. Substance. Strength. Blah. Blah.

    Having ideas, coherent ideology, understanding of politics, knowing what you’re talking about blah, blah.
    Don’t these idiots get it? Just be a mindless, proud racist like you!

  34. Arky

    I would also put forth the proposition that globally there is enough money with an interest in seeing the back of Trump that it could time a change in allocations to bring on a market crash at the most damaging point for Trump.

  35. Dr Fred Lenin

    Can anyone visualise what the USA would be like now if the thieving bitch clinton had won?. I shedder to think of it . Just look at the dogs brea kfast those arrogant globalist fascists are making of Brexit ,completely ignoring the will of the majority in self serving arrogance ,seemingly unaware of the revenge the voters will take on them ,if they ever allow elections again . They are Traitors ,plotting with foreign powers to overthrow democracy ,they should be hanged drawn and quartered .Our shower here are nearly as bad with the so called liberals infested with globalist communists . Politics needs the vermin exterminators in to clean it up, call the Flick man .
    Soros owns the EU,Remainers and communist decromats ,and the communist Chinese own Australian and kiwi politicians where are the populists hiding ? Trump ,Farage and Orban are the only ones I can see.

  36. Mother Lode

    Also, only at the cat does being a raving, thin skinned, crackpot get considered to be “style.”

    Someone said you had style?

  37. Rusty of Qld

    Cynic of Ayr,
    I’m in the same boat as you. Getting on in years and at a point of surrender, only fearing what is in store for our grandchildren. It would seam that they must be plunged into an horrific state of total control before they find out just how bad surrendering their individual rights and responsibilties to the political operatives and their enforcers will be.
    Poor fellow our country.

  38. Muddy

    Just be a mindless, proud racist like you!

    That’s self-declared, mindless, proud racist, thank you Grigory. Try to get these things correct.

  39. egg_

    I think – and this is only a think – that The Donald wants only to progress the USA. Being President isn’t something he desires as such.

    +1

    That’s why he’s outside the bubble of career Politicians.

  40. Filbert

    Trump is Western civilisation’s best, perhaps, only chance.
    God bless the orange one.
    And God damn all socialists.

  41. When the opinion polls confirm that the democrat candidate will win in a landslide, then we will know that Donald will win the next election.

  42. cohenite

    Fuck me; Trump, like no other conservative, gives back to the left what they give; or rather he doesn’t since they lie, cheat, threaten and abuse. Trump just calls the bastards out. People who criticise Trump’s style are really supporting the right of the left to do what they please while demanding conservatives put up with it.

    As I say act left, think right

    Fuck the left and fuck Trump’s critics; they’re shit.

  43. cohenite

    All the GOP electoral results since 2016 show this.

    North Carolina; you really have your head up your arse don’t you.

  44. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Fuck the left and fuck Trump’s critics; they’re shit.

    Wot cohenite said – all Lefties are douche nozzles, of the first order.

  45. Zatara

    All the GOP electoral results since 2016 show this.

    Just a week ago the GOP won two critical special elections to Congress. Trump doing a political rally in NC on election eve really sealed the deal. The GOP has won 11 of the 2o special elections since the 2016 mid-terms.

    As to Trump and activist Judges, the Supremes just told all the lower courts who keep trying to stick their noses into immigration policy by issuing BS injunctions to go pound sand. Trump immigration plans: Supreme Court allows asylum curbs

  46. flyingduk

    I put 5k on the Donald at 6:1 in 2016. He will win again in 20, provided he is still alive. He must be a high risk for assassination.

  47. Faye

    Went to Sydney to see relatives last week. From relatives to store assistants to fellow hotel guests, as soon as I mentioned “President Trump” their faces screwed up in contempt. I did tell them that America’s economy was bouncing with more jobs and higher wages, energy independent, etc, etc, etc. but their hatred is embedded listening and reading the MSM. I might have opened up the minds of one family of relatives.

  48. Iampeter

    I did tell them that America’s economy was bouncing with more jobs and higher wages, energy independent, etc, etc, etc.

    Yes, yes, economy booming is a credit to Trump.
    But if economy collapses you’re already mentally preparing conspiracy theories about whose fault it is.
    You guys can’t get your story straight even in this one thread.

    That’s self-declared, mindless, proud racist, thank you Grigory. Try to get these things correct.

    I did get it correct. I already said “mindless.” No one with half a brain would self declare themselves racist.

    You seem to think “right wing” means what the left means: religious racists and nationalists.

    Sorry, that’s just the OLD left.

  49. Muddy

    Iampeter
    #3156970, posted on September 16, 2019 at 4:49 pm

    I did get it correct. I already said “mindless.” No one with half a brain would self declare themselves racist.

    I’m never claimed to have as much as half a brain. Thank you for the compliment.

  50. Muddy

    Iampeter
    #3156970, posted on September 16, 2019 at 4:49 pm

    self declare themselves ….

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