“Friends, mates and allies”

Scott Morrison arrives around 23 minutes in. Advance Australia Fair at around 27 minutes, with a 21(?)-gun salute. The Star Spangled Banner at around 29:00. Inspection of the Guard and then meeting the crowd, which PDT does appear to enjoy. Bugle, fife and drum band next in colonial uniforms. PDT begins speech at 38:30. The warmest speech you may ever hear a foreign leader give about Australia and our relationship. It’s the real thing.

Scott Morrison follows from around 45:00 in. Also the real thing. “Friends, mates and allies” was said by the President but it could have been said by either.

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42 Responses to “Friends, mates and allies”

  1. struth

    Sco mo talks the talk but doesn’t walk the walk.
    Unfortunately Trump will see through him quicker than many in Australia who can’t bring themselves to admit it but by now should know better.

  2. Oh come on

    A couple of thing jump out at me about all the pomp, fanfare, rituals and whatnot that happened before the speeches:

    1) being a Head of State must, at times, be incredibly tedious. I get that it’s part of the job, but by jingo there’s a lot of standing around and shuffling about, following the script and so on – and I skipped most of that in search of the good parts! Fast forward five minutes…what, the Trumps are *still* standing there listening to the band play, Morro’s motorcade hasn’t yet arrived…

    2) greeting the crowd. Poor Morro. He’s the honoured guest but guess who all the kids turned out to meet? LOL

  3. Armadillo

    Mrs Trump looks like she is pregnant. With an alien.

  4. Armadillo

    Its hardly the most inspiring speech I’ve heard.

    Rather grovelling in fact.

  5. Armadillo

    The guy wasn’t talking from the heart, just reading a script (and did a poor job of it).

    Rather embarrassing. Whats the matter with these people?

    Constant references to him and his Sheliah being there is rather insulting. You are there as representatives of Australia, you doofus.

  6. Nob

    “we pull out weight” says Scott.

    Do we?

  7. jupes

    Do we?

    No. We are an embarrassment.

  8. Nob

    Armadillo
    #3162603, posted on September 21, 2019 at 1:44 am
    Its hardly the most inspiring speech I’ve heard.

    Rather grovelling in fact.

    Yes, Australian PMs go to Washington to grovel. Gillard especially. But they’ve all done it.

    A lot cheaper than building your own effective defence capability.

  9. Mark M

    Scomo echoes President Trump about “being for jobs.”

    Until Scomo calls renewable energy garbage, and gets our country back on the fossil fuel track, the jobs will never come back.

  10. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Nob
    #3162659, posted on September 21, 2019 at 4:25 am

    “we pull out weight” says Scott.

    Do we?

    I think we really stabbed the US in the back when we did not deploy the F-111s as they requested in the 1st Gulf War.

    The Navy did an important job, but it was a small commitment. Mac Arthur came here to help us defend against the Japanese, or at least, could have done so if they really did try an invasion.

  11. Digger

    I read nothing but poor form in the comments above. A sad indictment on what used to be steadfast support for our country. PM Morrison did a great job in an environment that few, if any, ever experience. Certainly none of you nay sayers could ever stand in his shoes.

    I served with our US allies in a USN Naval Support Facility in Da Nang in Vietnam for seven months and on exchange in the USN EOD community for almost 3 years and I fully support the words of our PM. He spoke the truth, he spoke boldly and he represented every one of us very well.

    Even if you resent the fact, the US is our protective umbrella and is the foundation of the democracy and liberties we enjoy. Our total population is only 70% of Californias and the US defence budget is half of our entire GDP so where do you think we actually stand in the world and in the US/Aust relationship. Hardly equals in real terms but we are treated as equals on the individual stage and Morrison represented that very well. BZ PM Morrison and BZ President Trump for providing a platform for Australia to stand on the world stage for a few moments and not be found wanting.

  12. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Mac Arthur came here to help us defend against the Japanese, or at least, could have done so if they really did try an invasion.

    Douglas MacArthur’s orders, as to why he was sent to Australia, are contained in the “Official History of the United States Army in World War Two, and are quite specific. His task was to launch an offensive North – he was NOT here to defend Australia against a Japanese invasion, and if part of Australia had been occupied, he was NOT to devote any resources to recapturing any occupied territory.

  13. Nob

    Digger
    #3162753, posted on September 21, 2019 at 8:47 am
    I read nothing but poor form in the comments above.

    Then I think you misread them.

    PM Morrison did a great job in an environment that few, if any, ever experience. Certainly none of you nay sayers could ever stand in his shoes.

    True. I don’t think I’m going to join a political party and stand for PM. I just work and pay taxes.
    But if I was there, I would be saying much the same thing – Australia is pitifully under-defended, so must rely on America.

  14. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    1. At least Mac Arthur turned up.

    2. If events turned poorly after the Coral Sea, Midway and Eastern Solomons (as you know, incredibly important battles), the Japanese would have invaded or blockaded Australia to capture US forces deployed here. [I’m not sure how the US would have evacuated either].

  15. Zatara

    MacArthur didn’t arrive in Australia until he was kicked out of the Philippines in Feb 1942 (whether by the Japs or Roosevelt). Strategic decisions and actions regarding Allied efforts in the Theater were well underway long before he arrived.

    United States Army in World War II

    For anyone interested in reading the whole story go to Chapter IX, starting on page 198, entitled ‘Australia and the Line of Communication’. Note that MacArthur doesn’t even get a mention until 22 pages into that chapter.

  16. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    All I am saying is that if the situation on the ground changed, he could have done something.

  17. Zatara

    All I am saying is that if the situation on the ground changed, he could have done something.

    Absolutely true Dot. In fact he would have been directed to do so as he was still a member of the US Army, not an independent warlord, whether he liked to admit it or not.

    That chapter however is extremely effective in crushing certain memes and historical inacuracies.

  18. Tim Neilson

    All I am saying is that if the situation on the ground changed, he could have done something.

    We’re very lucky that Nimitz and the US navy did what they did. Otherwise MacArthur might have been forced to do something, but he would have done what was best for his own prestige, not what was best for the war effort.

    A friend’s father fought on the Kokoda track, and described the situation like this. There wasn’t an American to be seen all through the hard times, because MacArthur wouldn’t risk US casualties unless there was an easy victory to be had, in case the casualties and lack of discernible results (on top of the Philippines) led to him being sacked.
    Only after the US naval victories crippled the Japanese supply lines and the land forces ran out of supplies and reinforcements, and the tide turned, did MacArthur leap into action – sending a platoon of GI’s and a gaggle of newsreel crews to Port Moresby (well behind the lines) to make films about how MacArthur’s troops were winning the war.

    There’s a small memorial somewhere in that big park in Perth which none too subtly makes the point. It lists Allied casualties during each of the three phases of the land war in PNG. It starkly lists US casualties in phases 1 and 2 as zero.

    No criticism of any US service personnel intended – but they could have achieved a lot more if there wasn’t MacArthur’s prestige to protect.

  19. Dr Fred Lenin

    Whats the global fascists national anthem ? Stalin had the Internationale , Hitler had Deutschland Uber Alles , Trudeau has Somewhere Over the Rainbow . Is. It Ode to Joy ,thats the Eurofascists tune .
    Thats the one morro shoukd have had .

  20. nfw

    Fox is reporting it as a 19 Gun Salute, as it should be. Twenty-one guns are reserved for Heads of State not Heads of Government and I can’t imagine the US protocol officials getting that wrong.

  21. Old School Conservative

    His task was to launch an offensive North – he was NOT here to defend Australia against a Japanese invasion, and if part of Australia had been occupied, he was NOT to devote any resources to recapturing any occupied territory.

    Zulu, I have no training in military strategy.
    My layman’s interpretation of MacArthur is that our defence lay in his aggression North. “Attack is the best defence” as the sports saying goes.

  22. Old School Conservative

    Trudeau has Somewhere Over the Rainbow

    Fred deserves an honorary areseless chaps award.

  23. Peter Hawthorne

    A lot of people who have commented here are disrespectful, and ungracious. The USA deserves a lot of credit for all it has done and all it does, and Australia is right to help when and where it can. Both Morrison and Trump respect that. It is important to have friends in this world, and i am grateful that the USA are ours.

  24. Zatara

    Only after the US naval victories crippled the Japanese supply lines and the land forces ran out of supplies and reinforcements, and the tide turned, did MacArthur leap into action – sending a platoon of GI’s and a gaggle of newsreel crews to Port Moresby (well behind the lines) to make films about how MacArthur’s troops were winning the war.

    Sorry, but that’s just BS.

    One example:

    With the Japanese well established at Buna and Kokoda, SWPA reorganized to counterattack on two fronts: along the Kokoda Trail and 200 miles east at Milne Bay. Three Australian brigades with American reinforcements strengthened the two fronts. At Milne Bay the Allies assembled a force of some 7,500 troops, including three companies of U.S. engineers and a battery of U.S. airborne antiaircraft artillery On 26-27 August the Japanese…. mounted night assaults and reached Airstrip No. 3. Milne Force stiffened its line and then pushed the enemy into a general retreat.

    I won’t bore everyone with more quotes, the reality can be found here. It’s worth a careful read. Short version – the US Army had an entire Infantry Division (the 32nd) fighting in the early hard-times in southern Papau and many more troops committed as the campaign moved North.

    There’s a small memorial somewhere in that big park in Perth which none too subtly makes the point. It lists Allied casualties during each of the three phases of the land war in PNG. It starkly lists US casualties in phases 1 and 2 as zero.

    Losses of the US 32d Division in the Papuan campaign totaled 687 killed in action and 2,161 wounded or lost from other causes. I reckon they paid their way.

  25. Anne

    Notice Morrison says “…these United States” not ‘The United States’.

    That’s because the Country is no longer a Corporation owned by the City of London.

    ———

    I hope Trump can flip Morrison and free him, and the rest of us, from Deep State control.

    ———

    Very funny to hear Sky News Reporter comment about the State Dinner attendees- “Everyone in their absolute refinery.” 😀

  26. Anne

    Also note the lack of gold fringe on the flags.

    The world is changing.

  27. wazz

    Is there a link anywhere to the text of ScoMo speech in reply to Trump in the Rose Garden ?

  28. classical_hero

    Our PM must be the Terminator because he’s the Man of Titanium.

  29. wazz

    An hour or so ago I heard ScoMo speaking at the White House on ABC news24 and I thought he said at one point “US Marines ……. Guadalcanal ……..1943”

    I could be wrong my hearing is not A1.

    Did anybody hear that? 1943 ?

    Any www link to text or audio?

  30. Zatara

    The Guadalcanal Campaign ended in Feb 1943.

    The 1st Marine Division, who kicked off the campaign in 1942, were by then in Melbourne treating their various jungle ails with various other ales.

    The 2nd MarDiv, who had relieved them on the island, were in it till the end.

  31. Anne

    Let’s hope when Morrison comes home he has the “confidence” to tell the Rothschild Communist Banksters where they can put their cash ban.

  32. Ellie

    I was moved to tears by the whole presentation. Awesome! Proud to be an Australian citizen with Scott Morrison at the helm.

    MAGA ❤

  33. Zatara

    The 1st Marine Division, who kicked off the campaign in 1942, were by then in Melbourne treating their various jungle ails with various other ales.

    Can you even imagine that today? A recently combated US Marine Division deposited on Melbourne to recover from their wounds….

  34. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Can you even imagine that today? A recently combated US Marine Division deposited on Melbourne to recover from their wounds….

    O/T, but my high school history teacher had served as a rifleman, in the United States Marine Corps, in the South Pacific, and you did not ever, but ever, fvck about in history lessons….

  35. stackja

    Tim Neilson
    #3162864, posted on September 21, 2019 at 10:13 am

    Zatara
    #3162929, posted on September 21, 2019 at 11:18 am

    32nd didn’t expect a tough time. They learnt.

  36. Zatara

    The 32nd were a bunch of high school kids from the National Guard who had never been 20 miles away from home. They had spent the majority of their enlistment on the boat heading for the South Pacific.

    Given that, they did pretty damned well IMO.

  37. Zatara

    The AIF didn’t expect a tough time in 1914. 60,000 dead and 156,000 wounded later they probably learned as well.

    It’s not a clever thing to say.

  38. Boambee John

    Digger

    Been out all day and just catching up.

    Did you catch up with Hec Donohoe?

  39. Digger

    Digger
    Been out all day and just catching up.
    Did you catch up with Hec
    Donohoe?

    Just got back from the reunion in Brisbane today, Boambee John and alas Hec wasn’t there. A few of his contemporaries were. Jake Linton from the first CD course in 1955 and my boss in Vietnam was there. Chief of Navy between 2008 to 2011, Vice Admiral Russ Crane and current Deputy Fleet Commander, Rear Admiral Rob Platt were there as was retired retired Commodore Kev Taylor and another 180 Clearance Diving sailors and officers and their partners.

    It was a terrific 5 day event where a lot of extremely good Australian servicemen from the past 7 decades renewed their friendship and enjoyed themselves. Next one will be our 70th anniversary reunion in 2021…

  40. mh

    Watch: This Kid Is Super Pumped About Meeting President Donald Trump

    President Donald Trump welcomed Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison to the White House on Friday, and one young guest on the White House lawn was overjoyed when the president stopped and shook his hand.

    In response, the kid reached across the rope line and gave the president a big hug.

    Another guest was spotted wearing a “Keep America Great” jacket in support of the president as the two leaders mingled with the crowd ahead of tonight’s Rose Garden state dinner.

    Morrison is just the second world leader to be granted the high diplomatic honor of a state visit during the Trump administration.

    The welcoming ceremony for the visiting Australian conservative leader included Marine Band performances of the national anthem of both countries and a 19-gun salute and inspection of troops.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/09/20/watch-this-kid-is-super-pumped-about-meeting-president-donald-trump/

  41. Empire 5:5

    Certainly none of you nay sayers could ever stand in his shoes.

    He’s a very ordinary public speaker, I would wipe the floor with him any day. But he is the PM and it appears he has repaired the most relationship we have and which was in terrible shape ever since Michael Trumble colluded with the Kenyan.

  42. Digger

    He’s a very ordinary public speaker, I would wipe the floor with him any day.

    Yeah right… self adulation is always a great indicator of ability….

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