Open Forum: September 21, 2019

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  1. cohenite

    Where is the Federal Minister for Education on all of this flagrant and self-aggrandizing cash splash of public monies?

    Indeed, this is no longer an employment issue but a public policy one. The initial Judgment was so strong and plainly delineated the difference between the right of an employee who is an academic to have academic freedom in their area of speciality and an employee’s obligations to their employer that I find it hard to see what grounds the appeal will proceed on.

    The current minister is some one called Dan Tehan.

  2. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Also some talk of barristers accepting certain cases.
    Technically, a barrister cannot refuse a brief. Apparently it’s an obscure wrinkle in their unwritten Code of Behaviour, dating back to medieval times.

  3. cohenite

    From Peter Ridd’s funding page:

    On hearing that JCU was appealing, Cheryl and I seriously considered just walking away. After all, why should I ask donors for $1.5M to fight a pointless battle that the State or Federal education ministers could settle with a phone call to JCU. $1.5M is a crazy amount that could be used for much better things.

    JCU will use its infinite financial resources – effectively government money – to appeal. They have hired three or four senior barristers, one of which we are told charges over $20K per day and between them must be over $40K per day.

    Last week JCU also stayed the judgement and capped my access to the compensation for legal fees.

    So I must very regretfully ask again for help. We need the best legal assistance to ensure a win. My fabulous legal team led by Stuart Wood AM QC has greatly discounted their costs so far. But appeals are horribly expensive and we need to be prepared to ultimately go to the High Court.

    If dan tehan is the relevant minister he needs a carrot up his dumb arse.

  4. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Wow! ScoMo out Trumping Trump for a short while there in Ohio. Come home Scott and do the same sort of thing here.

    Ditch Paris and let’s get moving.

  5. notafan

    According to the NSW Barrister’s Rules a barrister cannot refuse a brief from a solicitor to appear in a court if:

    The case is within their capacity, skill and experience;
    The barrister is available to work, and not already committed to other professional or personal engagements which may prevent the barrister from advancing the clients interests to the best of their ability;
    The fee offered is acceptable
    No other exception applies (for example, there would be a conflict of interests, it is reasonably likely that the barrister will required in court for another client on the same day or a barrister may be required to cross-examine a friend or family member)

    Can a Criminal Lawyer ever refuse to take on a Client?

  6. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Peter, that wrinkle can be smoothed out. Too busy, health’s not up to it etc. Also, a silk of high stature is also the least person to be short of legal niceties on which to regretfully decline.

  7. Geriatric Mayfly

    Technically, a barrister cannot refuse a brief.

    If the ‘client’ makes incriminating admissions, I don’t think an honest barrister can proceed.

  8. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Cannon-Brookes says if we don’t act now “we’ll all be cooked”.

    I presume he flew first class.

    don’t be daft, he wouldn’t be seen dead in 1st… billionaires fly private jet

  9. cohenite

    Dan Tehan’s contact details: ring the Canberra number and speak to the gob-smacked Chloe.

    Telephone: 02 6277 7111

    Email: [email protected]

    This Peter Ridd appeal is a watershed.

  10. Gilas

    Socrates at the Pub
    #3164701, posted on September 23, 2019 at 10:41 am

    Ask Riccardo Bossi that question and do it in person, you redneck spiv

    So it’s not only a star wrongologist, it’s a coward.
    Anyone happen to know the Italian for “I’m a snivelling coward & need someone else to finish the trouble my stupid mouth gets me into”?

    There you are Socrates:

    Sono un coglione codardo, e voglio qualcun’altro ad esser incolpato per le cazzate che dico io.

  11. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Peter, that wrinkle can be smoothed out.

    Lizzie, the first word in the second sentence of my post was “technically”.
    You might like to go check out what it means.

  12. Diogenes

    I’m just wondering if this is still the case, as it could go a long way to explaining Hastie’s actions.

    Hope this helps

    Any member of the Australian Defence Force may apply for entry into the 2nd Commando Regiment.[93] Applicants may also be accepted via the Special Forces Direct Recruitment Scheme (DRS), where selected and screened civilians undertake an accelerated 80-day infantry training program prior to commencing the Special Forces selection process.[1] If a candidate fails any part of the selection course they will be returned to their unit, or transferred to one of the infantry battalions of the Royal Australian Regiment if they are a DRS candidate. Candidates must complete the Special Forces Screen Test and if successful move onto the six-week Commando Selection and Training Course (CSTC) conducted at the Special Forces Training Centre (SFTC), in Singleton, New South Wales. Further training then is undertaken during Commando Initial Employment Training, also known as the “Reinforcement Cycle”. Upon successful completion of all courses soldiers are posted into one of the Commando Companies where further specialist training occurs.[1][94][95][96] Counter terrorist training is conducted at the Special Forces Training Facility (SFTF) based at Holsworthy Barracks with an indoor range complex, aircraft mock-up, method of entry facility, urban training facility and sniper range.[97] In 2013, a four-hour documentary Commando was produced on the selection course and reinforcement training.[98]

  13. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Watching that La Grande Bouff trailer only served to make me hungry, areff. For chicken legs. Have to make do with a Tim Tam. Time for elevenses.

  14. However, this did not necessarily apply to officers, who sometimes were seconded from elsewhere due to having some specialist skill required by the SASR. These guys did not go through the aforementioned selection and training process.
    I’m just wondering if this is still the case, as it could go a long way to explaining Hastie’s actions.

    Hastie did selection.
    We all know because most of his selection was broadcast on a TV reality show a year or so after, on SBS.
    This was back when Hastie was still just a nobody.

  15. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Thank you Diogenes.
    That explains the current “normal” process, what was known as “The Carter” back in my day.
    However, I was referring to a secondary process that applied to officers with required specialist skills. This was more of a secondment process, rather than a fully-fledged selection and training regimen.
    It was on a “needs” basis, and was often just temporary.

  16. Mater

    However, this did not necessarily apply to officers, who sometimes were seconded from elsewhere due to having some specialist skill required by the SASR. These guys did not go through the aforementioned selection and training process.

    I’m just wondering if this is still the case, as it could go a long way to explaining Hastie’s actions.

    No Peter,
    Not the case. Offrs and ORs do the same selection course, with one exception. There is an Offr module in the selection course which must is completed over a number of nights in the early stages. The Offrs did this whilst the OR’s were otherwise engaged (including rest/sleep).
    Offrs do it at least as hard as the ORs, and rightly so. They must be able to match it with their blokes and make sound decisions in the process.

  17. Top Ender

    Ben Roberts-Smith’s comment about not knowing some members of the SAS is explained by the high tempo of operations they have been undergoing since 9/11.

    As they operate in small groups, they quite often were/are detached from larger bodies of the regiment. I worked briefly with about 16 members in the Middle East in the wars there. Can’t recall their composition as I didn’t have to know it, or anything much about them, apart from giving them information.

  18. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Thank you Socrates. I didn’t know about the TV show.
    In that case I’m bitterly disappointed in him.

  19. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Thank you Mater.
    My disappointment deepens.

  20. JC

    Gilas

    I get the Dutch aren’t as brave as made out got caught in your throat. Don’t swallow, dickhead. It will hurt.

    A word of caution. Getting close to the bankrupt isn’t a good move. It hasn’t worked out for any of his spiv pals . Now fuck off.

  21. Peter FKAMV: Hastie isn’t the only one in that doco, another currently sitting federal parliamentarian was in the same selection (& also passed).
    Can’t for the life of me remember the title of the show, it was over at least two episodes, following a selection intake. Hastie was (I think) “Candidate 8” & the other pollie was “Candidate 10” (or something like that)
    Presumably the entire series is available somewhere.

  22. New York Times: (or do you prefer “Tim Lambert”?)
    Here’s a tip: Evolve some manners. Your parents were remiss by not teaching you any.

  23. Mater

    Can’t for the life of me remember the title of the show, it was over at least two episodes, following a selection intake.

    SAS: The Search for Warriors

    Perhaps?

  24. Mater: Haha… yes that is the show alright – just found it actually mentioned in his Wikipedia entry. Hastie is “Candidate 10”
    So I had ’em backward – the other sitting pollie would be “Candidate 8” in the same show. Can’t for the life of me remember who it is. (& I’ve been through the bio of every current sitting Federal Member)

  25. Gilas

    JC
    #3164741, posted on September 23, 2019 at 11:46 am

    ???
    Have I offended you?
    If so, it was unintentional.

    So, take your outrage and, with my compliments, impart it up your anal sphyncter.

  26. mh

    C.L.
    #3164705, posted on September 23, 2019 at 10:49 am

    I was wanting ScoMo to settle down somewhat while watching that.

    A bit excitable, but it was just a snippet.

  27. notafan

    I’m a coward asshole, and I want someone else to be blamed for the crap I say.</blockquote

    “I’m a snivelling coward & need someone else to finish the trouble my stupid mouth gets me into

    take your pick

    not a very accurate 'translation'

  28. JC

    My parents now, driller you bankrupt spiv?

    Did yours teach you it’s okay to drill young teenage girls?

    Your defence of prince Andrew showed what a pathetic spic you always were.

    Hope you left your sisters alone , or was that okay ..in the “family”?

  29. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    (& I’ve been through the bio of every current sitting Federal Member)

    I know it’s State level, but the current West Australian Minister for Housing and Veteran’s Affairs served with Special Air Service Regiment.

  30. Knuckle Dragger

    Roberts-Smith VC MG.

    The meeja broadcasting lurid yet unsubstantiated allegations by anonymous people in order to taint public opinion well before a court has made a determination.

    Sounds familiar somehow.

  31. JC

    I hope I have offended you, Gilas. Obviously I have. The Dutch thing obviously got a rise out of you.

    Staring at the truth in the face is a real bitch at times, hey. 🙂

    Serious caution that I know you won’t take. Don’t side with driller as it always ends up badly. He’s like a jinx.

  32. C.L.

    The meeja broadcasting lurid yet unsubstantiated allegations by anonymous people in order to taint public opinion well before a court has made a determination.

    Sounds familiar somehow.

    Indeed.
    The difference is this: does anybody seriously believe Roberts-Smith will be prosecuted and/or imprisoned? No government will dare do so – if for no other reason than that he will have the right to put other people on the stand and ask all sorts of questions of his employer (the state).

  33. mh

    Loads of YouTube vids on the ScoMo US trip.

    Here is the longer version

    President Trump Delivers Remarks at Pratt Industries Plant Opening

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wifRRGpWWrk

  34. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2019/09/our-contributor-former-sasr-operator-john-anon-on-the-ben-roberts-smith-vc-mg-allegations.html

    The Russian Foreign Ministry pointing the big finger at Australia over “crimes committed in Afghanistan?” F.M.S….

  35. areff

    Watching that La Grande Bouff trailer only served to make me hungry

    Off to Doyle’s with you. I’ll be along for a reprise as soon as I can get a flight.

  36. Zatara

    ROME — Pope Francis returned to his criticisms of the economy Sunday, saying that money is “dishonest wealth,” also known as “the devil’s dung.”

    In other news – Pope Francis banned commencing immediately the practice of tithing to the church and has ordered the Parishes to cease all ‘passing of the plate’ during the Mass.

    Not.

  37. old bloke

    JC
    #3164538, posted on September 23, 2019 at 2:57 am

    I’m a little obsessed about the mass murder of J””ws in WW2. With the exception of Britain almost every other European country was complicit in that diabolical act.

    The only parts of Britain which were occupied by the Nazis, the Channel Islands, lost 100% of their small J_wish population. They were rounded up by the British bobbies and taken to the Gestapo for transportation to the death camps.

  38. Mother Lode

    So people are confessing their climate sins to plants.

    Why would plants be displeased about extra CO2 in the atmosphere?

  39. Top Ender

    does anybody seriously believe Roberts-Smith will be prosecuted and/or imprisoned? No government will dare do so

    Well, not before the Woke Generation, that is.

    Who’d have thought a cardinal could be jailed for the sin of being part of the former Establishment the Wokes don’t like?

    Just because you have the highest gallantry awards around – two of them – doesn’t mean you’re immune.

    In fact, being a former member of the military means you’re more of a target.

    As warfare is so 20th century and male and all that.

  40. Atoms for Peace

    I always love the timing of the doom and gloom climate reports. WMO has released one just in time for the UN summit. ABC types in orgasmic relevatory mode.

  41. Zatara

    If the ‘client’ makes incriminating admissions, I don’t think an honest barrister can proceed.

    During a course a course related to this topic the instructor was asked “But what if the defense KNOWS the client is guilty?”

    It is not the defense’s task to prove the client not-guilty. Their task is to force the State to prove its case against him.

  42. Cassie of Sydney

    “In fact, being a former member of the military means you’re more of a target.”

    Yep..just like being a cardinal or RC priest means you’re more of a target.

  43. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Just because you have the highest gallantry awards around – two of them – doesn’t mean you’re immune.

    I can imagine the likes of Richard Di Natale getting all pious along those lines.

  44. Zatara

    Add my vote to the appeal for an edit button. But an ‘ignore’ button might be more useful!

  45. JC

    Old bloke

    Tiny exceptions don’t make a rule. Please.

  46. feelthebern

    So they hand cuffed him, shot him & kicked him off the cliff.
    Wouldn’t the family still had the zip ties (I’m assuming that’s what they mean by hand cuffs).

  47. Mark A

    old bloke
    #3164766, posted on September 23, 2019 at 12:28 pm

    The only parts of Britain which were occupied by the Nazis, the Channel Islands, lost 100% of their small J_wish population. They were rounded up by the British bobbies and taken to the Gestapo for transportation to the death camps.

    Let us not forget of the refusal of the ships carrying j…ws.
    By both the Brits and the much admired yanks.

  48. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    does anybody seriously believe Roberts-Smith will be prosecuted and/or imprisoned?

    Unfortunately, yes.

  49. feelthebern

    Keep in mind, one of the witnesses only saw what he thought was a body, at the bottom of a cliff, from a distance of 200m, in a chopper, as it got out of the area.
    I’m been in less than a dozen choppers in my life.
    All were enclosed, taking off & landing from grass & they still kicked up a lot of dust.
    This witness saw this from an open Blackhawk, with dust & shit getting sprayed about.
    I call bullshit.

  50. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    I always love the timing of the doom and gloom climate reports.

    Done for a reason, Atoms.
    And it’s working admirably.

  51. feelthebern

    & what was the “witness” doing?
    Hanging out of the chopper’s door?
    Or did the chopper take a scenic route out of the area.
    From start to finish, this “witness” clearly has mental problems or shit on the liver.

  52. Diogenes

    I can’t believe this is a Liberal Govt

    The Australian government has released a discussion paper on Australia’s Data Sharing and Release Legislative Reforms, tweaking what it proposed last year by removing a fundamental element of privacy — consent.
    The paper [PDF] proposes the Data Sharing and Release legislation not require consent for the sharing of personal information.
    “Instead, we are placing the responsibility on Data Custodians and Accredited Users to safely and respectfully share personal information where reasonably required for a legitimate objective,” it says.
    The paper says that following feedback, the government has “nuanced” its position on consent.
    “While consent is important in certain situations, the societal outcomes of fair and unbiased government policy, research, and programs can outweigh the benefits of consent, provided privacy is protected,” it says. “The Office of the National Data Commissioner will encourage the use of consent where appropriate when applying the Data Sharing Principles, although the legislation will not require it in all circumstances.”
    According to the government, requiring consent for all data sharing will lead to biased data that delivers the wrong outcomes.
    “The Data Sharing and Release legislation is about improving government policy and research by helping government and researchers use a better evidence base. If we required consent, then data would only be shared where consent was given,” the paper says.

    https://www.zdnet.com/article/consent-removed-from-australias-proposed-data-sharing-legislation/

  53. Bespoke

    An add bottom for directions. But editing would through the context of the following comments out and to irasistable for the likes of numberwang to abuse.

  54. Top Ender

    Read here the comments made by Kyle Sandilands, radio persona, about Christianity.

    If he’d made the same jokes about M uslims he’d have been fired by now, or the studio set on fire, or both.

    But presumably he’s getting a free pass.

  55. Top Ender

    Read all about the comments made by Kyle Sandilands, radio persona, about Christianity.

    One of the less offensive ones is: “He ridiculed the idea of the Immaculate Conception by describing Mary as a ‘liar’ who got knocked up ‘behind a camel shed’.

    If he’d made the same jokes about M uslims he’d have been fired by now, or the studio set on fire, or both.

    But presumably he’s getting a free pass.

    (If you want to go to the article you’ll need to copy the link below, and paste it, removing the space from the Mooslie word, which if not so placed sets the Spaminator off.)

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7485755/Kyle-Sandilands-apologises-Christian-M uslim-communities-vile-Virgin-Mary-joke.html?fbclid=IwAR2XckuZxVAOVFg24HqXeRtxtCpGHcsZ_0UVnO4HBmV1i78yGb6w90BTRb0

  56. Hastie is a Dog. – Convince me otherwise…….

  57. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Good account of the Cabinet meetings at 10 Downing Street, in the buildup to World War Two, in Ian Colvin’s book “The Chamberlain Cabinet.” Seems at one stage, the situation was deemed to be so serious, Chamberlain took the unprecedented step, of calling a Cabinet meeting for a Saturday…

  58. Zatara

    But editing would through the context of the following comments out and to irasistable for the likes of numberwang to abuse.

    Indeed, but with an ignore button he would merely be abusing himself and nobody else would have to know.

  59. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    I can’t believe this is a Liberal Govt

    Diogenes,
    This system of surveillance was originally put in place by the Fraser LIBERAL government, as part of the UKUSA Pact. Work expanding it has continued under every government since.

    -> Project Echelon -> PRISM -> Five Eyes -> ?

    You are now accounted for and tracked 24/7.

  60. Knuckle Dragger

    When Blackhawks take off as though they’re trying not to get shot down, it’s a long way away from a sedate departure. You go from on the deck to holy fuck in about three seconds, which gives the pilot space to evade if necessary.

    You’re concentrating on staying inside the bloody thing because you’re packing so much gear you can’t reach your harness.

    Whoever can identify a bundle of rags at the bottom off a ‘cliff’ 200m away as definitely a body, and the same body snuffed out by BRS during that takeoff process must have really, really really good eyesight.

    Just sayin’.

  61. feelthebern

    This BRS allegation seems as crazy as the Pell dropping two loads in the Cathedral with the door open.
    Impossible.

  62. C.L.

    Just heard on the radio that some AFL player is “free to play [this weekend] after his wife gave birth.”
    Why would that make any difference to whether or not he can play?

  63. Geriatric Mayfly

    During a course a course related to this topic the instructor was asked “But what if the defense KNOWS the client is guilty?” It is not the defense’s task to prove the client not-guilty. Their task is to force the State to prove its case against him.

    How could Counsel throw their best efforts into a case if this knowledge was lurking in the background? To pursue it would be akin to pushing shit uphill with a pin.

  64. C.L.

    Hastie is a Dog. – Convince me otherwise …

    He wants to be loved.

  65. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Hastie is a Dog. – Convince me otherwise …

    He’s acting with one eye on his long term political career.

  66. Percy Popinjay

    So people are confessing their climate sins to plants.

    Not in a Harvey Weinstein manner, I hope.

  67. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    He wants to be loved.

    He is now a mainstream party politician.
    What he may have been in a previous life is no longer relevant,

  68. Percy Popinjay

    I can’t believe this is a Liberal Govt

    Unfortunately, I can. Absolutely bloody hopeless.

  69. areff

    Latest Churchill fellowships announced. There are some seemingly worthy recipients and then there are these:

    Dr Amanda Cahill QLD Annerley
    The Bob and June Prickett Churchill Fellowship to study how climate action can build regional economies that are more resilient, just and prosperous – Spain, UK, Belgium, Netherlands, France, Italy, Sweden

    Mr Ali Akbar Khan ACT Kaleen
    To enhance support for gay male survivors of domestic violence – UK, USA

    Mr Joseph Flick NSW Dubbo
    To research and document the burial sites of Indigenous soldiers who died overseas during WW1 – UK, France, Belgium

    Ms Naomi Lacey NT Moulden
    To study peak community garden bodies to continue the development of our national organisation – UK, Ireland, Netherlands, USA

    Ms Christina Spargo NT Rapid Creek
    To learn how to teach Taiko (Japanese drumming) to people living with dementia – Japan, USA, Germany, UK

  70. max

    Thanks, cohenite, for Tehan’s contact details.
    Message sent.

  71. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Absolutely bloody hopeless.

    You reckon?
    They’ve all but completed the job of turning Australia in a police controlled, Fascist state, and the vast bulk of Catallaxians here continue to vote for them.

    No matter how distasteful, I’d say that counts as an outstanding success.

  72. areff

    On timely climate reports, Tony Thomas’ latest is particularly so.

    Climate models are all crap, says a climate modeller

  73. Percy Popinjay

    They’ve all but completed the job of turning Australia in a police controlled, Fascist state, and the vast bulk of Catallaxians here continue to vote for them.

    Well, I’m not one of them, MV, if that’s any consolation. Hey look over there – some legislation banning the use of cash – what a top idea!

  74. Diogenes

    Pete,
    I know that my online activity is being tracked, but this is taking stuff like your census data, matching it to ‘your’healthrecord, to your tax return, to … and flogging it off

  75. Atoms for Peace

    As they say in the world of BDSM, always have a safe word if you are in handcuffs.

  76. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    You miss the point entirely, Diogenes.
    What you are only reading about now, they’ve actually been doing for years – in some cases, decades.
    All that’s left now is coating it with a thin veneer of legality to circumvent future protests.

  77. Mark A

    Atoms for Peace
    #3164815, posted on September 23, 2019 at 1:21 pm

    BDSM

    60 years on this planet and I keep finding new things.

  78. old bloke

    JC
    #3164775, posted on September 23, 2019 at 12:38 pm

    Tiny exceptions don’t make a rule. Please.

    I was just pointing out the Britain wasn’t an exception. I agree with you regarding the Danes, they smuggled most of their J_wish population to neutral Sweden at great personal risk, and the few who remained and were sent to concentration camps were treated well because the Danish government and the Danish Red Cross retained an active interest in their well-being, unlike the other occupied countries.

    After the war, when the exiles returned home, they found that their Danish neighbours had maintained their properties and gardens and had even looked after their pets. The Danes are the exception.

    Dan shall judge the Tribes, according to the Bible. They set the standard by which the other tribes in western Europe and Scandinavia will be judged.

  79. Mark A

    Not a bad earn if you are a punter as I am.
    Just in last bet at Healesville. of course it won, would I be skiting otherwise?
    Win and Placepending
    REGGAE MIKADO
    HEALESVLL R08 23/09
    Stake
    w$5.00
    p$45.00
    Odds
    w16.00
    p3.20
    Estimated Return$80.00$144.00

  80. dover_beach

    He ridiculed the idea of the Immaculate Conception by describing Mary as a ‘liar’ who got knocked up ‘behind a camel shed’.

    Sandilands said believers were ‘dumb as dogshit’ and yet we are knowledgeable enough to know that the Immaculate Conception has nothing to do with Our Lady’s virginity or Christ’s birth. This is the most striking thing about contemporary, popular, unbelief, it is typically ignorant about whatever it is criticizing.

  81. Mark A

    dover_beach
    #3164824, posted on September 23, 2019 at 1:34 pm

    The problem is that when hearing crap like this most of us just shake our heads, if that.
    No reaction, no street marching, no nothing.

    You win no wars or disputes by shrugging your shoulders.

  82. Arky

    Just heard on the radio that some AFL player is “free to play [this weekend] after his wife gave birth.”
    Why would that make any difference to whether or not he can play

    ..
    Maybe not a catholic.
    Splosh. “Wahhhhhh”.
    “Pick that up will you”?
    Childbirth might be more of an occassion for some of us.

  83. Mark A

    Arky
    #3164828, posted on September 23, 2019 at 1:42 pm

    Arky I was half a world away at all three birthings of our offspring’s, yet I returned back for every one of them.
    Once by first class, the only seat I could get, (not worth it).

  84. vr

    JC — Andy Kessler’s column in today’s WSJ is worth your time. Is an M.B.A. Still Worth It?

    This how the article closes…

    All this leaves the impression that, beyond finance, M.B.A. programs are still geared toward an industrial America that is shrinking—much like B-school enrollment.

    Here’s a tip that no M.B.A. program teaches: My editor taught me that if you ask a question in a headline, the answer is usually no.

  85. Mark A

    Once by first class, the only seat I could get, (not worth it).

    Shyte, traveling first class for the money you pay I mean.

  86. stackja

    Dover – Kyle is seeking publicity.
    His ‘audience’, doesn’t know any better. Kyle is as ignorant on such matters as many people today.

  87. Arky

    Mark A
    #3164830, posted on September 23, 2019 at 1:51 pm

    ..
    I was quoting a Monty Python skit.
    I wasn’t being serious Mark.
    Like when CL goes on about them pentecostals as “happy clappers” isn’t serious.

  88. Arky

    And that fatso Kyle Sandwichhead isn’t being serious. Dude is a professional cockhead. No one shuld respond to him with either seriousness or outrage.

  89. Empire 5:5

    You know what to do.
    #NoShitSherlock

    Charlie Kirk
    @charliekirk11
    This weekend Trump supporters volunteered their time to clean up a Democrat city

    Media silent

    While the left pretends to care about the climate they aren’t cleaning up streets, instead they are using children as political tools

    Make this go viral.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1175912282712236033

  90. notafan

    Fathers ttending births or not attending births has nothing to do with religion

    it is a modern fashion in the west

    lots of cultures still don’t

    missing a grand final and possibly causing your team to lose seems a more important priority

    The baby doesn’t care anyhow

  91. notafan

    I remember being offered the option of up to 12 observers and a video back in the 1980s

    No, just no.

  92. dover_beach

    I believe they give the baby a GoPro nowadays.

  93. notafan

    I believe they give the baby a GoPro nowadays.

    livestream to daddy at the GF

    problem solved

  94. Gilas

    JC
    #3164758, posted on September 23, 2019 at 12:11 pm

    I hope I have offended you, Gilas. Obviously I have. The Dutch thing obviously got a rise out of you.

    No offense taken, old son, I hadn’realised I had stumbled into the long running spat between two old lovers.

    Some of us don’t spend their whole day in front of computers… so I’ll forgive you this time.

  95. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Gosh Zatara, for a brief minute’s misreading I read that the Pope was banning ’tilting’ not ‘tithing’. Thought it might have been a chop at tilty head Anglicans.

    No such luck though. Turns out he’s not banning either.

  96. slackster

    Interesting study done in Norway- According to new research, female managers make employees more sick and far more likely to suffer from stress and other mental health problems.

    https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/2158244015574208

    Excerpt from the conclusion: “The results did not support the idea that gender diversity in management positions has positive organizational effects for the firm”

  97. Empire 5:5

    missing a grand final and possibly causing your team to lose seems a more important priority

    The baby doesn’t care anyhow

    Child A: me old man was at me birf, me mum made him!
    Child B: my father wasn’t present for my birth, he was busy winning Premiership and Norm Smith Medals and he dedicated them on TV to me and mum.

  98. stackja

    In 1940’s fathers were busy at work, while babies were being born.
    Who is working while someone is off at the birth? Most publicised birth seem to be sports ‘stars’ who take time off from ‘work’.

  99. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Areff, surely this Japanese researcher’s piece so well outlined in Quadrant Online should sit somewhere in the new IPA Climate Collection to be soon published?

  100. bespoke

    Zatara
    #3164792, posted on September 23, 2019 at 12:58 pm
    But editing would through the context of the following comments out and to irasistable for the likes of numberwang to abuse.

    Indeed, but with an ignore button he would merely be abusing himself and nobody else would have to know.

    That or threaded comments. This would reduce some misunderstandings between other commentators .

  101. Empire 5:5

    Interesting study done in Norway- According to new research, female managers make employees more sick and far more likely to suffer from stress and other mental health problems.

    Approaching difficult challenges from an emotional prism expends more energy on the solution than a rational resolution. The results come as no surprise.

  102. areff

    No argument from me, Lizzie. Won’t hold my breath until the ABC picks up on it.

  103. stackja

    Regarding ScoMo in USA.
    US correspondent Harley Carnes told AJ, USA MSM more interested in Antonio Brown.

  104. feelthebern

    Never flown first class.
    Best flying experience was Melb to HK Virgin business class.
    I told them to leave me alone until an hour out.
    They did.
    Best sleep I’ve ever had on a plane.

  105. Mark A

    Healesville next bet is race 11 #1 10*50 eaw

  106. Entropy

    Here’s a tip that no M.B.A. program teaches: My editor taught me that if you ask a question in a headline, the answer is usually no.

    Butteridge’s Law.

  107. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Hairy left me in the care of one of his drinking mates when I was in early labour with our daughter. The mate was laying some pavers for us on our back patio. He was so relieved when I said at mid-day he’d better call Hairy to leave his meeting and come and take me to hospital. The pavers were laid all wonky due to the mate’s inattention to the task at hand. Talk about an anxious chap. I’ve done this twice before, I reassured him but he was still worrying about maybe needing scissors, some towels and a piece of string. lol 🙂

  108. JC

    vr
    Right now, my wayward daughter is studying for the entry test and writing essays. She’s just focusing on the one year program which is a masters at NYU and Columbia. It’s freaking expensive, but I’m treating as a form of dowry. She finds someone to settle down with and have kids. 🙂

    A month ago I told her I wasn’t forking out the money and she started crying over the phone. Weeping…Once she does that I just turn to jelly. 🙂

  109. Speedbox

    Over a decade ago a system called Trapwire came into being. It was initially conceived by former CIA agents who managed to gain initial development funding from the US Government after 9/11. After a relatively slow start, the development has been driving forward at a furious pace spurred on in part, by the exponential rise in the number of street cameras.

    The system assumed that terrorists are vulnerable due to their need to conduct pre-attack surveillance such as photographing, measuring and signaling. Such suspicious activities, as detected and recorded by surveillance cameras, are electronically entered into a database using a “10-characteristic description of individuals” or vehicle information. Facial recognition software confirms the individual’s identity or, at a minimum, provides an initial database. The result was the TrapWire Threat Meter (TTM) level assigned to the individual and to their potential target.

    In 2009, intelligence company Strategic Forecasting (Stratfor) invested heavily providing additional developmental funding. Stratfor is routinely referred to as a global authority on strategic and tactical intelligence issues even being described as “the shadow CIA”.

    Under Trapwire and similar systems your every move, every utterance and every detail of your life can be captured and analyzed. Coupled with your financial records including employment, tax, telephone conversations, shopping habits and social security data, there is no limit to the Government’s intrusion into your private life. Your daily routine can be observed from the moment you leave home. Even your friendships and acquaintances can be catalogued. Nothing is private.

    When I used to raise this prospect with my associates the most common retort has been that they have nothing to hide so they have nothing to fear. “I’m not a terrorist so why would I care” for example. But, IMO that typical response completely misses the point.

    Do you actually TRUST the Government to have this much information? And for what purpose will it be used? Who will have access and under what circumstances? Will requests for data be adjudicated by an independent panel? Will the information be kept secure?

    Consider this: About 75 years ago a nasty and vicious little man with a cohort of similar persons utilised little more than paper records and informers to track down and murder over 6 million J#ws. Just imagine what destruction he could have achieved with trillions of bytes of information and high speed computers.

  110. bespoke

    Took time off from my mining job so the wife could give birth to owe youngest ( I attended) in the city. A week later we wee back home.

  111. Mark A

    desreagard last post wrong forum

  112. notafan

    Took time off from my mining job so the wife could give birth to owe youngest ( I attended) in the city

    interesting

    I take it that without you being present there would have been no birth?

  113. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Technically, a barrister cannot refuse a brief.

    Technically, it can be subverted in a number of ways.

    It is also bit of a joke considering there are “solicitor advocates” now as well.

  114. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Do you actually TRUST the Government to have this much information? And for what purpose will it be used? Who will have access and under what circumstances? Will requests for data be adjudicated by an independent panel? Will the information be kept secure?

    leftist governments have already abused this trove of personal data and will continue to do so

  115. Mark A

    notafan
    #3164875, posted on September 23, 2019 at 2:48 pm

    Took time off from my mining job so the wife could give birth to owe youngest ( I attended) in the city

    interesting

    I take it that without you being present there would have been no birth?

    Sometimes I have the feeling that you are set out to be contrary and provocative.

  116. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    I take it that without you being present there would have been no birth?

    That’s unbecoming.

    I know you’re nicer than this.

  117. Zatara

    In 1940’s fathers were busy at work, while babies were being born.

    Naval Captain to sailor requesting paternity leave in 1940:

    “While your presence was essential in laying the keel you would be superfluous at the launching.”

  118. notafan

    Sometimes I have the feeling that you are set out to be contrary and provocative.

    Bespoke dishes out

    I really don’t care if he or you flew or left work to attend a birth

    it is not the mark of of being a true husband and father, as appears to be the implication

  119. cohenite

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    #3164739, posted on September 23, 2019 at 11:43 am

    https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2019/09/ben-roberts-smith-vc-mg-with-his-detailed-statement-denying-last-nights-60-minutes-allegations.html

    Ben Roberts Smith has come out swinging.

    Currently BRS has the shits at nein and fairfucks in litigation for defamation before the FCA for exactly the same alleged slurs paraded in 60 turds last night. Repeating the alleged slur involving a criminal act makes the defamatory act not only itself a criminal act but an aggravated one. If the FCA finds for BRS then the ones responsible for these slurs, if so found, could and should face jail time.

  120. notafan

    And just to remind you ‘frank’

    you were calling bespoke a trill a couple of days ago

  121. bespoke

    notafan
    #3164875, posted on September 23, 2019 at 2:48 pm
    I take it that without you being present there would have been no birth?

    Why would you think that? Strange.

  122. Slackster:

    Excerpt from the conclusion: “The results did not support the idea that gender diversity in management positions has positive organizational effects for the firm”

    That goes up along with the Emperor of Japans “the war situation has developed not necessarily to Japan’s advantage”.
    Far too many managers of both sexes and the 100+ genders neglect their duties in favour of their progress up the ladder.
    Gender diversity is just another empty slogan to be used and then discarded when it no longer supports the aims of the Left.

  123. bespoke

    it is not the mark of of being a true husband and father, as appears to be the implication

    Wrong Nota just wrong.

    you were calling bespoke a trill a couple of days ago

    So?

  124. notafan

    Bespoke

    I would think that because that is what you. apparently, said.

    “Took time off from my mining job so the wife could give birth to owe youngest”

  125. Mark A

    notafan
    #3164882, posted on September 23, 2019 at 2:59 pm

    is not the mark of of being a true husband and father, as appears to be the implication

    Nothing of the sort if it eases your mind. But if you can’t see the deep connection between husband-wife-child than I take everything you posted here regarding family and feelings as suss.
    Back to scrolling past you.

  126. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    I’m with C.L. on this social faux pas.

  127. notafan

    So

    Frank is having a go at me for not being ‘nice’ to you when he was calling you a troll just a couple of days ago

    but whatevs

    the greatest generation never ever ever attended births but so many, committed Catholic/ Christian gentlemen were proper fathers and husbands

    you know breadwinners faithful husbands the whole nine yards

    never changed nappies either

    now alleged men are too scared to get married because someone might take all their money

  128. bespoke

    “Took time off from my mining job so the wife could give birth to owe youngest” –“in the city

    Iv known C.L’s attitude to dads attending births and not once has it triggered me into scolding. I’m glad I attended but that just me.

  129. Zippy:

    leftist governments have already abused this trove of personal data and will continue to do so

    Our problem is that the so-called Rightist parties are doing the very same thing.
    It appears to be a common problem throughout the West – our leaders have embarked on a progression to the surveillance state, seemingly against the citizens expressed wishes.
    The fact that the progression appears to have gathered a rather indecent amount of haste over the last year does nothing to reassure us.

  130. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    now alleged men are too scared to get married because someone might take all their money

    I don’t think being rational is the same as being scared. I’m not going to go surfing at False Bay either.

  131. Mark A:

    Sometimes I have the feeling that you are set out to be contrary and provocative.

    You noticed that too?

  132. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Do you actually TRUST the Government to have this much information? And for what purpose will it be used? Who will have access and under what circumstances? Will requests for data be adjudicated by an independent panel? Will the information be kept secure?

    Government embodies the worst of humanity with legal authority and deadly force.

    You wouldn’t trust a pet tiger to keep you safe.

  133. JC

    Iv known C.L’s attitude to dads attending births and not once has it triggered me into scolding. I’m glad I attended but that just me.

    I went to the first and second. The first was born in Sydney and there was a midwife and doc to help. I was in shock at what I saw and remained both traumatized and disgusted for months. The next was in NYC. I counted 14 people (assisting) at one stage. No freaking wonder US healthcare costs so much. This time I never looked down until the kid had completely popped out and in the crib.

    That’s the rule… if you must go to the birth, never ever look down.

    Truth is CL’s right. Men shouldn’t attend birth.

  134. Boambee John

    “bespoke
    #3164885, posted on September 23, 2019 at 3:02 pm
    notafan
    #3164875, posted on September 23, 2019 at 2:48 pm
    I take it that without you being present there would have been no birth?

    Why would you think that? Strange.”

    so the wife could give birth

    The word “could” is the key to your question.

    Others also missed its significance.

  135. JC

    The orangutan loves this stuff.

    Trump and Modi Combine Road Shows for Rally in Houston

    This year’s “Howdy, Modi” spectacle was nearly three times the size of the crowd that turned up for Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi at New York’s Madison Square Garden five years ago.

    Here’s the pic in the WSJ.

  136. bespoke

    Anyways, congrats Bespoke.

    Years late but thanks JC. 😁

    Congrats Nota😎

  137. JC

    Wow, and old name bites the dust.

    Thomas Cook, the world’s oldest travel firm, has collapsed, stranding hundreds of thousands of holiday-makers around the globe and sparking the largest peacetime repatriation effort in British history.

    The company declared bankruptcy after failing to reach a last-ditch rescue funding deal.

    The firm runs hotels, resorts, airlines and cruises for 19 million people a year in 16 countries.
    Read Next

    It currently has 600,000 people abroad, forcing governments and insurance companies to co-ordinate a huge rescue operation.

    The UK’s Civil Aviation Authority said Thomas Cook had now ceased trading and it will work with the British government to bring the more than 150,000 British customers home over the next two weeks.

  138. Boambee John

    bespoke

    time off from my mining job so the wife could give birth

    Notafan was having a gentle dig at your phrasing, which implied that the event could not take place were you not present.

    Relax.

  139. Armadillo

    Truth is CL’s right. Men shouldn’t attend birth.

    Damn right. Not unless your Sheliha is a total bitch and you enjoy seeing her in pain. In which case, I would totally recommend turning off the “happy gas” to enhance your own level of enjoyment.

    Let’s just call it “pay back” for her moaning about you forgetting your Wedding Anniversary.

  140. Boambee John

    bespoke

    My earlier post seemed to disappear into the ether, then reappeared!

  141. JC

    bespoke
    #3164908, posted on September 23, 2019 at 3:31 pm

    Anyways, congrats Bespoke.

    Years late but thanks JC. 😁

    Congrats Nota😎

    Did I misunderstand. Okay.

  142. Dr Faustus

    Climate models are all crap, says a climate modeller

    Climate models claim their ‘skill’ by being able to represent the temperature rise from the 1850’s.
    If they were anything other than crap, they would be able to model the decent into the Little Ice Age, and the recovery from ~1750. With Co2 stable at around 280 ppm up until the mid-1800’s.

    Yes, yes, no systematic thermometer data pre-1856-ish, but plenty of proxies that the climateers are happy to use when it suits their purpose.

    But they can’t.
    Because they don’t model the full set of physical processes that drive climate.

  143. P

    Top Ender #3164788, posted on September 23, 2019 at 12:56 pm

    Read all about the comments made by Kyle Sandilands, radio persona, about Christianity.
    One of the less offensive ones is: “He ridiculed the idea of the Immaculate Conception by describing Mary as a ‘liar’ who got knocked up ‘behind a camel shed’.

    Sadly described in some media articles as a ‘joke’.
    Quite distressful.

    Listening to this beautiful album of Catholic Hymns and Songs of Praise has been uplifting.

  144. Roger

    Climate models are all crap, says a climate modeller

    This will be in the news headlines tomorrow, right?

  145. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    China’s state media has warned Australia risks “100 years of solitude” if it continues to strengthen military ties with the United States.

  146. notafan

    Thanks Boambee John

    didn’t mean to cause mass hysteria

  147. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Incel China vs the Stacey Australia

    “You’ll be lonely forever if you let Chad USA hook up with you!”

  148. Speedbox

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)
    #3164877, posted on September 23, 2019 at 2:52 pm

    Yes, and I have even heard it said that Adolf’s j#w hating focus and industrial level murder was a historical watershed – that such a thing could never happen again in the modern world. Laugh, I nearly cried.

    As per Xi’s China and elsewhere, the next Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Amin, Hussein, Ceausescu or Milosevic is already awaiting their moment armed with nothing more than a computer, a database and the determination to enforce their version of ethnic cleansing.

  149. bespoke

    I it make some feel better I went to a strip joint the night after with some work mates also on leave. 😎

    Young and dumb.

  150. egg_

    Dems Cook 10,500 Steaks While Lecturing Americans About Eating Less Meat

    Hypocrisy knows no bounds in their Leftoid clown Universe.

  151. egg_

    I have even heard it said that Adolf’s j#w hating focus and industrial level murder was a historical watershed – that such a thing could never happen again in the modern world.

    Mein Kampf was written whilst he was in prison?
    Likewise, Charles Manson got his inspiration whilst in prison.

  152. Notafan was having a gentle dig at your phrasing, which implied that the event could not take place were you not present.

    Relax.

    +1

  153. egg_

    Climate models are all crap, says a climate modeller

    Confucius say he who models with horsesh1t sure to be in sticky situation.

  154. JC

    A plussing spasm for the next few hours.

  155. egg_

    Notafan was having a gentle dig at your phrasing, which implied that the event could not take place were you not present.

    90% of the time, statistically.

  156. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Spicy chemistry, Aussie style.

  157. bespoke

    After re-watching Arky’s video’s Iv come to appreciate the determined commitment he had to complete such project. 😎

  158. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    As per Xi’s China and elsewhere, the next Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Amin, Hussein, Ceausescu or Milosevic is already awaiting their moment.

    Erdogan.
    Just waiting for Trump’s time to end.
    And he’s armed with more than just a computer.

  159. egg_

    A plussing spasm for the next few hours.

    A pussing spasm?
    The Cat has a reputation as the Geriatric Ward, after all.

  160. Armadillo

    I don’t understand why Sheliahs can’t just send you a text message advising if it’s a boy or girl. And if it’s got the right number of fingers and toes.

  161. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Hey DH, bub is all good m8.

    Has 10 🖐️ & 10 👣.

    Unfortunately, 👶🏿 is not yours.

    Have a gr8 day m8.

  162. Armadillo

    After re-watching Arky’s video’s Iv come to appreciate the determined commitment he had to complete such project. 😎

    LOL. I love sarcasm.

  163. thefrollickingmole

    A little more inside goss on the Feraldton shooting…

    Coppers announce no body cams worn (not issued yet)
    Largely out of town shitstirrers start putting forward narratives ranging from she was unarmed through to she was on her knees and executed.

    Small problem for this narrative.
    Nearly every house around there has been burgled at some stage and all the action was caught on residents security cameras.

    That hasnt been made official yet apparently.

  164. JC

    egg_
    #3164936, posted on September 23, 2019 at 3:57 pm

    A plussing spasm for the next few hours.

    A pussing spasm?
    The Cat has a reputation as the Geriatric Ward, after all.

    -2.4

  165. bespoke

    Since allot of this is about lately I thought it apt.

    From the comments:

    H Elias
    3 weeks ago
    Peterson: ” i like cats ”
    Interviewer: ” so you’re saying we should kill dogs”

  166. egg_

    A pussing spasm?

    Could be part of their victimhood totempole – a gangrenous amputee?
    Could be one on Q&A?

  167. JC

    egg_
    #3164948, posted on September 23, 2019 at 4:12 pm

    A pussing spasm?

    Could be part of their victimhood totempole – a gangrenous amputee?
    Could be one on Q&A?

    +1.12

  168. egg_

    JC
    #3164944, posted on September 23, 2019 at 4:06 pm

    – 1.735099

  169. JC

    egg_
    #3164950, posted on September 23, 2019 at 4:18 pm

    JC
    #3164944, posted on September 23, 2019 at 4:06 pm

    – 1.735099

    Bullshit. It’s at least +.07653. I’m not accepting your score.

  170. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    – 1.735099

    That’s going too far.

  171. egg_

    I’m not accepting your score.

    ‘Gunner said you’re a wimp in the flesh.

  172. Empire 5:5

    JC

    A month ago I told her I wasn’t forking out the money and she started crying over the phone. Weeping…Once she does that I just turn to jelly. 🙂

    That’s an appalling example you’ve set for the novices like me of the manipulative-daughter phenomenum.

  173. Empire 5:5

    Frank Walker from National Tiles
    #3164938, posted on September 23, 2019 at 4:00 pm
    Hey DH, bub is all good m8.

    Has 10 🖐 & 10 👣.

    Unfortunately, 👶🏿 is not yours.

    Have a gr8 day m8.

    Oh the boganity.

  174. Roger

    China’s state media has warned Australia risks “100 years of solitude” if it continues to strengthen military ties with the United States.

    They’d be really cross if they weren’t our friends.

  175. JC

    +3.76 for the x-15 vid.

    On a serious note, I took my kid on the US intrepid a few times and they had one on this earlier versions on the carrier’s platform. The thing that shocked me was the flimsiness of the outer skin of the craft. You weren’t supposed to touch it, but of course I did and you could actually feel your fingers’ depression on the riveted plates forming the skin of the craft. The seat looked like it came out of a Daytona racing car. Dunno if the machine is still on the Intrepid though. it was basically a racing car seat sitting on top of massive looking engines. I forget the model, but I it was I think the same one the Soviets blew out of the sky during a film day.

  176. JC

    That’s an appalling example you’ve set for the novices like me of the manipulative-daughter phenomenum.

    I know, I know. Just practice what I preach not as I do. 🙂

  177. bespoke

    The Titanium for the x-15 came from the USSR and leaked fuel until it heated up.

  178. JC

    +2.987

    The Titanium for the x-15 came from the USSR and leaked fuel until it heated up.

    Dude, have a look at the vid pic above. I would presume the tech for the outer layer of craft’s body wasn’t that different to the earlier models. If you touched it, you would cause an indentation that would spring back. I dunno, but you’d think a contraption traveling at Mach 6 would be a little more… err .. solid.

  179. bespoke

    The Titanium for the x-15 came from the USSR and leaked fuel until it heated up.

    Nope that was the SR-71 Blackbird dummy.

  180. JC

    +3400.98

    You know, part of me wants a Biden presidency just to get shit like this happening. It would be fucking hysterical shit.

    TrumpSoldier
    @DaveNYviii
    Joe Biden – Male convicts that identify as female will be housed with women.
    “In prison the determination should be that your sexual identity is defined by what you say it is not what in fact the prison says it is.”

  181. Ellie

    Took time off from my mining job so the wife could give birth to owe youngest ( I attended) in the city. A week later we wee back home.

    I read it as – if bespoke couldn’t get time off work his wife would have given birth in the mining town and not in the city.

  182. JC

    Right on cue, the Daily Mail.

    Transgender inmate charged with raping a woman sexually assaulted four fellow prisoners days after being remanded to an all-female jail

    Transgender prisoner Karen White had been charged with raping a woman
    Was then remanded to female jail where she indecently assaulted four inmates
    White was sent there despite being a convicted sex offender and paedophile
    All the 52-year-old’s previous offences had been committed when she was a man

    Jeez Lord, just make it stop.

    Get a load of the freaking pic.

  183. The Beer Whisperer

    A bit late for its original thread, so I’m going to where the action is – here.

    Wiki says passenger shipping (cruise lines) work out at about 12.8 passenger mpg.

    In comparison, a 747-400 is 91 pmpg.

    So ships are about 7x less efficient!

    Who’da thought it would be more efficient travelling through air instead of water??

    For those who thought air travel should be banned in favour of ship travel, these people are weapons grade stupid, and just as dangerous.

  184. JC

    I think the women’s prisons would become a little more, umm, what’s there word, oh yeah….rapey. There would be no more men’s prisons.

    All male prisoners now identify as women…

    Can you imagine what would happen in female prisons if this occurred on scale?

  185. Arky

    the greatest generation never ever ever attended births

    ..
    The greatest generation were shit.

  186. bespoke

    Yes Ellie.

    We also had twin toddlers to care for.

  187. JC

    – 4.6789

    .
    The greatest generation were shit.

    Okay why?

  188. Bruce of Newcastle

    If you touched it, you would cause an indentation that would spring back.

    Titanium is soft and bendy – you can fold up a 1 mm sheet easily with your hands. Can’t do that with steel. But its strength to weight ratio is higher than steel. You just need a bigger volume of it than steel.

    We had chunks of it lying around at the labs, it was amazingly light for the size. I picked up a solid bar about a metre long and 30 mm diameter once, and easily balanced it on my finger. A steel bar that size would be hard to pick up with both hands.

  189. Old Lefty

    Or does Sandilands want to move to the ABC or Nine-Fairfax?

  190. JC

    + 7.965

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #3164977, posted on September 23, 2019 at 5:01 pm

    Don’t complain, it’s the highest score today.

    Bruce, from memory it felt kind of rough. Not sure if it was the paint just getting old because the plane was sitting out outside like forever. It felt sandy.. coarse.

  191. stackja

    BBC Breakfast
    @BBCBreakfast
    “I think they should have been a bit more willing to intervene.”
    @johnmcdonnellMP
    tells #BBCBreakfast he believes the government should have done more to support Thomas Cook.
    More here: https://bbc.in/2kNugTo

    Thomas Cook collapses as last-ditch rescue talks fail

    Peter Fankhauser, Thomas Cook’s chief executive, said the firm’s collapse was a “matter of profound regret”.
    34 minutes ago

    The Thomas Cook bosses who received £20m in bonuses in …
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk › News
    Peter Fankhauser, the Swiss chief executive, has taken home £8.3 million since he took the helm in 2014, including a £2.9m bonus in 2015.

  192. calli

    Bruce, are you implying that our PM, Titanium Man, is lightweight and easily bendable?

  193. Arky

    Okay why?

    ..
    For sure they fought WW2.
    But they came back and produced baby boomers, who stink.
    Also, you look at those Hollywood actors who came back from WW2: they were the worst.
    Henry Fonda produced the excretable Jane and the worst fuckwit ever in Peter. Look at Lee Marvin: multiple divorcces, abandoned wives and children left right and centre.
    No, as a whole these bastards get way too much leeway. They were a drugged out bunch of degenerates.

  194. zyconoclast

    If you touched it, you would cause an indentation that would spring back.

    Titanium mesh gloves are astonishingly light compared to stainless steel.

    The lightness doesn’t come cheap at about 6 x the price of stainless steel.

  195. JC

    + 7.966

    Arky
    #3164987, posted on September 23, 2019 at 5:11 pm

  196. John Constantine

    WEB webjet announced a token exposure to the compulsory liquidation of Thomas Cook.

    27 million euros they won’t see again.

    WEB sold down a bit too much I thought, but i missed the lowpoint. Been in a downtrend for a few months so I usually ignore big stocks with bad momentum and heaps of intangibles.

    Is the travel sector stock downturn looking forward to harder times, or just needlessly fearing them?.

    Dunno, so others preferred.

  197. calli

    One thing. He’s a good little grasshopper learning crowd management from the master.

    And not doing too badly at it. I suspect he’s a natural.

  198. Bruce of Newcastle

    Calli – We love titanium in my business. It’s resistant to almost everything. Corrosive sprays wash right off and it keeps going.

  199. JC

    Bruce, is it found as a derivative to copper and or gold mining?

  200. Ellie

    They were a drugged out bunch of degenerates.

    And some were violent alcoholics.

  201. Eyrie

    I suspect how bendy titanium is depends on the particular alloy. If you take a sheet of 1100 aluminium it is very soft. Normal commercial stuff is better and when you go to 520x or whatever marine grade it is very stiff and hard. Aircraft 2024T-3 is also completely different stuff from normal commercial grades. Amazing what a few percent of other metals in the alloy can do.

  202. calli

    Lol. So nothing sticks either.

    He’s won the political trifecta. 😁

  203. Bruce of Newcastle

    JC – Mineral sands mining. Ilmenite is about 30% Ti and rutile about 50% by weight.

    The problem is that getting from 50% to 100% is metallurgically complex and difficult,which is why the pure metal is so expensive.

  204. The Beer Whisperer

    China’s state media has warned Australia risks “100 years of solitude” if it continues to strengthen military ties with the United States.

    Why the hell would anyone get in bed militarily with a government so spiteful? Being at the beck and call under pain of 100 years of solitude or worse is irrational. The whole world ain’t gunna kowtow to China with their limited ability to project power globally. They’re evil, but cumbersome and unsophisticated. They can’t control without absolute power, a trait emboldened by their big brother control in China, but which won’t work everywhere else. Fuck em.

  205. JC

    Yep, it’s what I’ve been saying for a while now.

    Dinesh D’Souza
    @DineshDSouza
    Children—notably Nordic white girls with braids and red cheeks—were often used in Nazi propaganda. An old Goebbels technique! Looks like today’s progressive Left is still learning its game from an earlier Left in the 1930s

    https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1175848457191510016

  206. Armadillo

    I’ve got a heap of Duralium [email protected] that Mrs A’s grandfather made out of a downed Japanese Zero airplane in New Guinea. It’s weird stuff. Incredible light, allowing the Japs to get the upper hand over the allies in the early part of WW2 due to ite manoeuvrability.

    Uktimately, its bullet deflection ability was its downfall.

  207. classical_hero

    Speaking of John Wick, here’s someone over doing it.

    Big Wick Energy

  208. None

    I was wanting ScoMo to settle down somewhat while watching that.

    A bit excitable, but it was just a snippet.

    as I have pointed out many times since the days of slomo in opposition, slomo loves politicking. He is otherwise a policy free zone. This is precisely what you can expect from someone who has spent 50 years in the Pentecostal movement.

  209. Armadillo

    Lay off the Chinese, Beery.

    If they start withdrawing their restaurants from Australia, we are pretty much fucked.

    Can you imagine life without spring rolls or sweet and sour pork? Think about it.

  210. None

    Titanium. Terribly lightweight.

  211. egg_

    Seems like the resident curmudgeons who “never scroll up” don’t like to scroll down, either.

    (+1000)

  212. egg_

    China’s state media has warned Australia risks “100 years of solitude” if it continues to strengthen military ties with the United States.

    Where was China 100 years ago – eating sticks?
    Oh wait…

  213. Roger

    Bruce, are you implying that our PM, Titanium Man, is lightweight and easily bendable?

    I have titanium spectacle frames.

    Yes, they are lightweight and easily bendable.

    Do you suppose Trump had these attributes in mind as applied to “ScoMo”?

  214. egg_

    The greatest generation were shit.

    They were the most subsidised in history.

  215. Old School Conservative

    As a method of economic analysis econometrics is a childish play with figures that does not contribute anything to the elucidation of the problems of economic reality.

    — Ludwig von Mises

    Now I understand why I was so bad at econometrics at Uni.

  216. calli

    That doesn’t make sense, egg_.

    Do the Chinese have difficulties in understanding English? 🙂

  217. Leigh Lowe

    Thomas Cook goes tits up.
    Why is that BoJo’s problem to sort out?
    Haven’t they heard of travel insurance?

  218. calli

    Perhaps a population of 1.5b gives you a different perception of “solitude”.

  219. Gab

    his beautiful album of Catholic Hymns

    Yes, thanks for posting this collection, P. Just beautiful and not a “modern” one among them thankfully.

  220. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    JC, daddy’s girls can certainly twist the otherwise steely heart of the corporate male. Daddy will pay, our daughter would blithely declare over some piece of heart’s desire. No he won’t, I would say putting on my sternest grimness and having a few quiet words to him about spoiled girls and not in my day etc. He would totally agree.

    Later I’d hear there were tears on the phone or away from mean mummy in some place and he would shrug and mutter something stupid to me and I would know that he had given in. The huge big expensive social wedding was one of those times. I suggested a quiet restaurant with 30 friends or even at home. Shock and horror. Daddy paid. Just like JC’s darling, she’d had the top range education and all trimmings and now she needed the final handing over of the dowered one in a state suitable for her girlfriends. Next was help getting a foot on the property ladder.

    She is a truly great girl though, the apple of our eye, and I think now that we were right to give her all of the advantages I never had. Hairy was a fairly tough dad in many other ways; she had to behave well and study hard and she did both. All has worked out well now. Married, happy and independent of us. The best mother ever, far better than I ever was.

  221. egg_

    Notafan was having a gentle dig at your phrasing, which implied that the event could not take place were you not present.

    90% of the time, statistically.

    Has Prince Harry had a Paternity test?
    Is that why the Royals didn’t object to any potential Merkle tar babies?

  222. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Harry and Meghan’s Africa tour starts with apartheid row

    By Valentine Low
    The Times
    12:10PM September 23, 2019
    46 Comments

    Prince Harry was urged to apologise for Britain’s role in creating the “monster” of apartheid as he and his wife start their tour of South Africa on Monday.

    The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have immediately walked into a row with their opening visit to an area of Cape Town where an ethnic group was forcibly removed in the 1960s and 70s.

    Before any ceremonial welcome, the couple will go directly to one of the city’s impoverished townships and visit District Six where 60,000 residents, many of them Cape Malays, were ordered to leave at short notice. The area was declared whites-only and razed over the next two decades.

    Activists representing 3,000 families who have fought to return are unhappy that they have not been invited to the royal visit at the District Six Museum.

    Shahied Ajam, chairman of the District Six working committee, called on the duke to apologise for “the monster that his forebears created”. Saying he was “perplexed” that the committee had not been invited, he added: “Prince Harry is a representative of a former colonial power that was the architect of what transpired in District Six.

    “Forced removals and the other apartheid evils had their roots in colonialism. The English don’t have a good history in South Africa. They enforced and implemented segregation.

    From the Oz.

  223. JC

    +.000013

    Leigh Lowe
    #3165024, posted on September 23, 2019 at 5:51 pm

    Thomas Cook goes tits up.
    Why is that BoJo’s problem to sort out?
    Haven’t they heard of travel insurance?

    Because for some strange reason travel insurance is a government program in the UK. Figure that one out.

  224. Bubbles

    I am not normally, arrogant, rude, sneering, aggressive and threatening when corresponding to Pollies, but the Peter Ridd issue is so 1932 that polite correspondence is insufficient.

    Of course we must support Peter financially, but the issue is, we should not have to. The disgusting JCU creature should have no right to use our money to persecute the victim of her unacceptable arrogance. She is obviously entirely confident that no Pollie will have the cojones to intervene. Be strong Peter you poor bastard.

    Only continuous public pressure on the lazy, cowardly, Libs will solve this issue as a landmark resolution.

    My comment below about the JCU penchant of floating around in boats with pretty undergraduates is inadequate. It should read ‘pretty undergraduates in bikinis’.

    Back in the day as a boy helo pilot is was occasionally sent out to support these scammers’ reef parties. ‘Me Too’ come on in. Admittedly, as a boy I didn’t think much about the fun – but now!

    I sent a copy and a disgraceful barb to my local invisible, Turnbull appointed McGrath facilitated time server. Unfortunately, he is too smug to react to provocation.

    Mr Pollie X,

    I enclose a copy of an email to your Minister for Education colleague concerning the outrageous behaviour by the JCU VC in persecuting Professor Peter Ridd.

    This matter is so basic to the future of academe that I would anticipate vigorous action on your part to shut-down the outrage.

    Your vigorous activity in support of your people’s freedoms would be a highlight in your otherwise invisible activity in support of the Conservative base.

    Me
    Dear Minister,

    Your silence regarding the outrageous behaviour and contemptuous misuse of peoples’ money by the JCU VC to prop-up her contempt for free speech, scientific method, academic principals, decisions of the Court, disregard of her obligations to correctly husband the people’s money and specifically, bullying attacks on Peter Ridd is disgusting.

    Since when has a low grade public servant been permitted, without question or oversight, to use millions of the people’s dollars to cover-up her Court recognised malfeasance by bankrupting her victim. Kerry Packer academe?

    We did not defeat the Labor totalitarian gang in order to permit the Morrison Government to ignore its obligations to Australians’ principals of fairness and public sector responsibility. You can fix this outrage with a phone call. Instead, you choose to dishonourably permit and honest man to be persecuted by non-accountable pseudo-academic fascists.

    What is preventing you from doing your job? Afraid of the ABC?

    JCU has long been despised in North Queensland as a collective of bunyip academics whose preferred academic activity is floating around in boats with pretty undergraduates. Even a cowardly government risks little by pulling these scammers into line.

    Your Government’s margin is thin. Failure to represent your support base’s interests will erase that margin, and should do so if you continue to sacrifice good people to your cowardice.

    This is a watershed issue for academic freedom. Represent your people and fix this outrage!

    Me

  225. calli

    Are you scoring comments, JC?

    Are you a tough marker or can you be coerced?

  226. Arky

    Taiwan update:
    Did 11 km on the treadmill this morning.
    Will go for a walk soon to get a new memory card for the camera.
    Filming stuff for some Taiwan themed videos.
    Might do some on the food stuffs you can get here. Aside from smokey plum juice, I like pineapple cakes, and found apple flavoured milk yesterday, which was alright.
    Might also do a series on smoking while riding a motor scooter, which seems to be a local speciality. Don’t know what the physics are there.

  227. vr

    Hey JC — I saw your reply. If your kid is strong in maths, she should consider Princeton’s Masters in Finance course. The students are highly sought after.

    If it is finance she is going in to, the chair of the finance dept of one of the top finance department is not so optimistic in the long run….doesn’t see much in the way of IB jobs due to blockchain (Sinc probably agrees with this assessment).

  228. Bruce of Newcastle

    Perhaps a population of 1.5b gives you a different perception of “solitude”.

    Homogeneity maybe, solitude no.

    A crackdown on Is lam is spreading across China (22 Sep, via Drudge)

    The campaign has prompted concerns that the repression of Uighur Mu slims in the western region of Xinjiang has begun to bleed into other parts of China, targeting Hui and other Mu slims who have been better integrated than Uighurs into Chinese society. Last year, a top party official from Ningxia praised Xinjiang’s government during a visit there and pledged to increase cooperation between the two regions on security matters.

    Haiyun Ma, a Hui Mu slim professor at Frostburg State University in Maryland, said the crackdown was continuing a long history of animosity toward Is lam in China that has alienated believers.

    The crackdown on Christians is also getting fiercer from what I can see. Coupled with Hong Kong and the trade and economic obstreperousness one wonders what has got inside Xi’s brain to want to cause so much unrest right now.

  229. John Constantine

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2019-09-23/gravel-blocks-environmental-water-flows-murray-river/11537590?sf219898277=1&fbclid=IwAR2GkQ4Cpb3VNI8Ebbycb_1pvdvbQjJ0NLrlM-MX7-zWvJ_8SR1vPHhhJoI

    Gravel and rocks have been dumped illegally to block environmental flows in the Murray-Darling system.
    (Supplied: Chris Brooks)

    An irrigation channel used to release water into a forest along the Murray River in NSW has been filled with earth and rocks, with an irrigator saying the vandalism is a sign of frustration boiling over in the area.
    Key points:

    Dumped rocks and gravel is blocking environmental water from flowing into a forest along the Murray River
    An irrigator says it is a sign of frustration at water management
    Commonwealth Environmental Water Holder has ordered an investigation

    It is illegal to damage irrigation infrastructure, but Southern Riverina Irrigators chairman Chris Brooks said he was not surprised it happened.

    “I can see it. It’s on the highway between Barooga and Mulwala,” Mr Brooks said.

    “It’s a dire situation.

    “Desperate men do desperate things.

    “I see the look in people’s faces and they are pretty angry. It worries me, but it is going to happen.”

    Once the clearances and rewilding is unwaveringly completed, the rural proles will be stacked tight and high into death trap chicom apartment developments in the city.

    Chicom secret police cameras and dissenter identification software will make completely certain no opposition of our beloved elites will ever occur again.

    Comrades.

  230. Roger

    …one wonders what has got inside Xi’s brain to want to cause so much unrest right now.

    The demographic cliff is rapidly approaching.

  231. egg_

    Reading through the overnight comments

    Didn’t you get the Memo – you’re not supposed to scroll up – the “manly” whitecollar Geriatrics’ posting only commences from now (even if they give themselves away via plagiarism).

  232. egg_

    JC
    #3164538, posted on September 23, 2019 at 2:57 am

    Que?

  233. egg_

    In a medium car that takes me 1,000 to 1,200 kilometres.
    What weight battery bank is required to achieve that endurance?
    The weight and volume of battery packs is a major hurdle which means that the energy source has to be way cheaperthan hydrocarbons to compete.

    My old Greenie boss (Chemical Engineer) reckons they’ll swap out battery packs in future rather than use recharging stations.

  234. egg_

    My father was a Dutch resistance fighter.

    My Dutch Uncle was captured by the Gerries and spent 2 years in a Prison Camp – but didn’t b1tch about it like NumbNutz.

  235. John Constantine

    https://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/news/leaked-cfa-annual-report-reveals-bulging-budget-falling-volunteer-numbers/news-story/8cb25b886f582e6071f8b8fbe539f7fb?fbclid=IwAR3sCamnkMrh6IAiOvNiE57AS9wnRc97Ivxj6Vb8CPqxIxtgZS0jHixpqsA

    The Country Fire Authority’s wage bill has soared by $100 million in just three years as its volunteer workforce continues to shrink.

    A leaked copy of the CFA’s 2019 annual report reveals the authority’s annual salary costs have reached $319 million, up from $288 million on the previous year.

    The sharp increase has been pinned on new enterprise bargaining arrangements — including pay and allowance boosts — and the hiring of more full-time firefighters.

    The godless commo firies union has been granted the concession to tax capital to pay for Stalinism, through the rates system.

    Fifty percent increase in their wages bill since it was decided to purge stale pale male volunteers from the firetruck visuals and hire diversities to call in air support and remotely monitor robot firetrucks.

    The desired photo opportunity is for an andrews satrapy wymynsys minister to pose next to a refugee crewed unionised firetruck saving racists, no matter what it costs to fundementally transform firefighting.

    No dissenting organisational structure can be permitted to exist in yarragrad.

    Comrades.

  236. egg_

    Socialism is apparently the root of all evil.

    And 1.73 is the square root of 3 – conceived in a threesome?

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