The children’s crusade

“In climate change, the left has found an emergency big enough to justify taking control of everything.”

I went along myself yesterday to the demo in Treasury Gardens, and truth to tell, I found it boring. It was so clearly a Marxist, anti-capitalist, pro-socialist network of the kind I had been part of in my long-ago youth, right down to:

What do we want?
Climate change action!
When do we want it?
Now!

Fifty years later, even the lines are the same although the issue is different. Except it’s all so new and exciting for these ignorant and uninformed students who have not an independent or educated thought in their heads – I’d like to see how they’re going in their maths and chemistry courses. Every statement from the podium was a cliche, so much so that within ten minutes the cheers simply evaporated and everyone just got to talking to the people they were with. No one any longer cared what the speakers had to say.

The point I was trying to make yesterday is that it is all very well to be speaking among ourselves on our side of the fence but useless if we cannot force these climate totalitarians to engage in a dialogue. The Conversation – in my view out of weakness and not strength – now seeks to shut down debate on climate change within its confines. There is, of course, nothing that these ignoramuses say that we are unaware of. They, on the other hand, are unaware of every bit of the counter-arguments that have been made on our side. They are certainly unaware of the massive evidence proving that they are almost certainly wrong. This, from Cut and Paste at The Oz yesterday, is typical of the attitude they have:

Climate warrior/worrier Tim Flannery confesses to failure, Guardian Australia website, Tuesday:

Each year the situation becomes more critical. In 2018, global emissions of greenhouse gases rose by 1.7 per cent, while the concentration of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere jumped by 3.5 parts per million — the largest ever observed increase. No climate report or warning, no political agreement nor technological innovation has altered the ever-upward trajectory of the pollution. This simple fact forces me to look back on my 20 years of climate activism as a colossal failure … My children, and those of many prominent polluters and climate denialists, will probably live to be part of that grim winnowing — a world that the Alan Joneses and Andrew Bolts of the world have laboured so hard to create … As I have become ever more furious at the polluters and denialists, I have come to understand they are threatening my children’s wellbeing as much as anyone who might seek to harm a child.

The dams are full and he mentions not a world. His failure was to be WRONG!!! And you know who is really “threatening my children’s wellbeing as much as anyone who might seek to harm a child”? And not just my children, but every one of those children all around the world who showed up to show off their ignorant concerns before returning to their comfortable, well-provisioned homes of first-world high consumption. Not only do these cruel and thoughtless airheads jeopardise their own futures, both economically and politically, but do so to an even greater extent for their counterparts in the less prosperous parts of the planet. My disgust at these people, especially for their adult leaders who corral these students into these ignorant jaunts in the park, is almost unbounded.

The question I wanted to raise in my post yesterday is to ask how we can make the climate people engage in dialogue so that everyone can hear both sides of the argument being presented at the same time with rebuttals and replies. How do we have a true Q&A? The ABC is filled with leftwing dolts who pander to their own side and ignore the other. You can have The Outsiders and Andrew Bolt who reflect our views, while also discussing both sides, but only viewed among ourselves.

The Conversation has turned into The Monologue. And they don’t care. Like all pseudo-academics of their kind, they already know the truth so do not have to discuss anything with anyone who disagrees. This decision ought to be seen as a great intellectual scandal, that a website designed for academics to discuss issues amongst themselves has shut down one half of the debate. They are the true terrorists, the actual fascists, the genuine Nazis. They are the people you read about in 1984.

I would say we cannot let them get away with it, except I don’t know what to do so that they do not get away with it. Really, what is to be done?

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62 Responses to The children’s crusade

  1. stackja

    Scomo is worse then expected.
    He was supposed to be the Savior.
    Now even Albo wants dams.
    Where was Sussan Ley yesterday?

  2. And from what I guessed and was subsequently told, the rubbish left behind once again revealed the ‘green’ concerns of these protestors.

    Also, if these children are so concerned about climate change, why not turn off all air conditioning and heating in their schools and make a real impact. In my day, we had no heating or cooling in our classrooms (other than closing the windows in winter and opening them in summer).

  3. iamok

    The fucking ABC must be forced to host an independent debate of all issues. Public funding demands this, and not hosted by fucking Snowcone. Including:

    Who are these 97% of the world’s climate scientists? Exactly who?

    What exactly were they asked?

    And what exactly did each of them respond?

    Until all this is known I say this is all a bunkum hoax.

  4. Robbo

    Tim Flannery has been a failure for a lot longer than 20 years and he knows that to be a fact. Another instance of the Flimflam man ignoring the facts. Flannery is a fraud and a lying fraud. If he had a shred of decency he would shut his mouth and stay silent for the rest of his days but being the media tart he is that will never happen.

  5. calli

    the rubbish left behind

    That’s just boring, garden variety, visible pollution.

    What these kiddies are afraid of is the pollution you can’t see. Unless you’re Greta and then, miraculously, you can.

    Because it’s always easier to emote about something false than to bend over and pick up your trash.

    And that’s true for the Third World too.

  6. John Constantine

    The media defence of the rubbish photos is that the pictures are not from yesterday.

    But propaganda works both ways, so mock the protests regardless i reckon.

  7. struth

    While the careerist, corrupted traitors of the liberal party are driven into the sea we have a uniparty, a U N iparty of socialist scum.

    The Liberal party as it is, is more of an enemy to us than labor as they claim our side but are not.
    Nothing has changed since Turnbull took a dive.
    Nothing.

  8. struth

    Are not driven into the sea

  9. Texas Jack

    What to do? Nothing. Let em march and march and burn their own cause out. The sun will keep coming up.

  10. John Constantine

    Australia could do dams without a public dollar spent, and with rewilding credits included.

    And billionaire, Gina Rinehart’s company, Hancock Agriculture has three cattle stations in the Kimberley and reported ambitions to harvest 325 gigalitres of water.

    The company outlined a proposal to the Director General of DPIRD earlier this year whereby land from its Fossil Downs station could be incorporated into a new Fitzroy River national park in exchange for access to water.

    The ABC has made numerous requests to Hancock Agriculture for comment but it has declined or not responded.

    Backing up the case for large-scale irrigation is a CSIRO report which found 1,700 gigalitres of water could be taken from the Fitzroy catchment annually to support 160,000 ha of crops.

    Their billion dollar abc will make damn sure Gina doesn’t dam a single drop of job making, food growing, nation building water.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-21/fitzroy-river-water-negotiations/11390948?sf219837867=1&fbclid=IwAR3Dx7RM5foHu1VzZ3gOkpg3HgDOJ2KPodBm4cNdixuMZ8LYVGg1IbW9ip4

    Comrades.

  11. Dr F red Lenin

    No temperature rises in 16 years ,the sea has not risen 600 millimetres , there is more co2 being emitted by Asia , yet it has had no effect . The 73 scientists who power the climate industry would be lying again if they denied the facts again . The science is settled ,there is mo climate crisis end of story .
    Defund socialism and it will perish .

  12. Gerard

    Why would they want to debate. They are not interested in the science, only control.

  13. Roger

    The Conversation has turned into The Monologue.

    Gold!

  14. calli

    Soon to be a soliloquy.

    Please, make it so!

  15. Squirrel

    The kiddies, and the idiot adults who are egging them on and providing the scripts, need to be put in touch with people from the (former) middle class of a country which used to be prosperous, and now isn’t – somewhere like Argentina might be a good place to start.

    That way they can find out what it would be like if things really get tough – which is what will happen to Australia if we are sufficiently insane to allow the zealots to destroy what remains of the industries which pay our way in the world.

    There are so many seriously deluded people in this country who seem to think that they can have their environmental idealism and continue living a privileged, materialistic lifestyle and all they will need to do is make some easy, tokenistic sacrifices at most.

  16. Muddy

    …if we cannot force these climate totalitarians to engage in a dialogue.

    Oh.My.Funky.Donkey.

    That, right there, is why conservatism and all we hold dear, is doomed.
    The barbarians are inside the citadel, and you want to play Scrabble with them?
    In the history books we will truly be the voided generations. The Hollows.

  17. Wallace

    Wadda we wont,,,
    Facts and Logic
    That’s wot.

  18. egg_

    …if we cannot force these climate totalitarians to engage in a dialogue.

    Oh.My.Funky.Donkey.

    That, right there, is why conservatism and all we hold dear, is doomed.
    The barbarians are inside the citadel, and you want to play Scrabble with them?
    In the history books we will truly be the voided generations. The Hollows.

  19. a happy little debunker

    The trouble is that the people who claim to revere the science, don’t.

    Either you believe the Science – millions of weather balloons, radio sonde measurements and satellites that empirically refute the catastrophic aspect of AGW or you believe something else.

    In that vacuum (of belief) contrary voices are now supressed and ignored.

    Many years ago (as a teenager) I saw a brilliant documentary on the development and future of modern society shown on the ABC. the very British host postulated that just as religion once explained our world (& was found wanting), science was reaching the limits of it’s ability to explain our world – he was unsure as to what would replace science.

    It is apparent that we are entering a time when Pseudoscience is becoming revered as that explanation.

    This was oddly foreshadowed in the 1968 film Planet of the Apes – where Dr Zauis could see no dichotomy between being both their Minister of Science and also Chief Defender of the Faith.

    I have no answers – except to ‘let them eat cake’ and let the taste grow bitter in their mouths!

  20. Ian Macmillan

    Government promotion of mass child demonstrations for political
    purposes is straight from the Hitler playbook. It is part of the
    Goebbelisation of education, discourse, and the media that
    characterised the Nazi system of attaining power.

    The Goebbelist stalking horse is not denial of Christ as Savior, but
    denial of climate catastrophism, and it is not the Jews who are now
    demonised, but citizens who argue for climatic truth.

    Josef Goebbles said that a lie is always a lie, but if told often
    enough, becomes a truth.

    However, a truth is always a truth, and if told often enough becomes a belief,
    and if we know and understand the truth, we should shout it from
    the roof tops.

    Otherwise, the Krystalnacht and the gas chambers. Be aware!

  21. Muddy

    If we are to engage these totalitarians in dialogue, we may need to even the playing field a little, given our obvious intellectual and moral superiority. We don’t want to be seen as not playing fairly, do we? So what shall we offer in return for their attendance at the negotiation? Money? Careers? Control of social institutions? Perhaps the conservative representatives could have their tongues cut out and two or three limbs amputated as a gesture of good faith? It’s important to demonstrate that we mean well, and hope for a win-win outcome. Kumbaya and all that.

  22. billie

    did the teachers in Cambodia soon to become Khampuchea, all hasten their charges to communism?

    unintended consequences

    just read Lizzie Beare’s comment on another post regarding year zero and telling the children stuff – problem is, the teachers in our schools have a head start on us as do the filthy media

  23. notafan

    Why would they care about Gina’s water plans?

    It’s stopped raining and we’re all gonna fry.

  24. P

    I can’t believe that it’s almost 10yrs ago that I objected to the exploitation of children in the lie that continues to this day.
    It was 7th Dec 2009, the opening film of COP15.

  25. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Sea level rise in Sydney Harbour is marginally more than 1/40th of an inch each year.

    400 years for a 10 inch rise.

    200 years to be equal to the satellite margin of error.

  26. MPH

    It’s a total clown world where adults are begging children for answers, and there is no going back. Don’t ask me what the way forward is though, although I suspect it will get much worse before it gets better.

  27. Howard Hill

    it will get much worse before it gets worse

    I fixed it for ya.

    This will take a generation to undo so better batten down the hatches.

  28. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    What we need is for the kiddies and their teachers to take a test.

    This one.From the Global Warming Policy Foundation (Google if the linky no work) Twelve questions – see how many they get correct. Try it yourself.

    All are drawn from material put out by the IPCC’s most recent statements as FACT, so it is what these authorities claim to have tested and believe. I suggest that the vast majority of the current protesters, in thrall to the ‘climate emergency’, would get most of these information pieces quite wrong. Because even the IPCC have to admit that they got it wrong in a lot of earlier hubris about the world CO2 ‘greenhouse’ and its hyped effects. No-one’s told the kiddies and their teachers that yet though.

  29. Zatara

    It’s a total clown world where adults are begging children for answers, and there is no going back. Don’t ask me what the way forward is though, although I suspect it will get much worse before it gets better.

    The way forward may be that time marches on and those children eventually become adults who have to face reality and pay the bills.

    Suddenly, it’s not all free stuff and butterflies anymore.

  30. Whalehunt Fun

    what is to be done

    Defund and deport. The ABC and SBS need to be simply defunded and every single employee and their immediate family given 48 hours to leave before they will be forcibly removed to Pakistan or whichever place is deemed most backward and dangerous.

  31. Zatara

    what is to be done

    I’ll take Whalehunt’s defund option a bit farther. Spend the kiddie’s inheritance.

    Don’t leave a penny to the little feckwits.

    Watch those attitudes change overnight when personal responsibility hits them in the gob.

  32. Rayvic

    Crusade? It is child abuse.

  33. Louis Hissink

    Steve,

    We are dealing with religion, with which there is never any meaningful dialog between the faithful and the rest whether goyim, infidel or unbeliever. Such are the problems with monotheistic faiths – their intrinsic intolerance of differing views.

    After all, from which culture did Marxism spring from? The problem is the human activity of thinking, for it is this ability that divided humanity in a babel of competing beliefs.

    It is the addiction to belief that is the problem.

  34. Mark M

    We have President Trump on our side and can only hope to elect someone like President Trump in Australia.

    Scomo shown so far he is waffling fool, brandishes a lump of coal in parliament saying, “Don’t be afraid,” and then recently claimed the seasonal Queensland bushfires were carbon (sic) induced.

    Stupid and incompetent.

    Trump will hold session on religious persecution instead of attending UN climate summit
    https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/20/politics/trump-un-climate-summit-religious-persecution-session/index.html

    Heh. A few timely tweets and the spot light will be on the Prez whilst the doomsayers squeal apocalypse.

  35. Nob

    Louis Hissink
    #3163452, posted on September 22, 2019 at 5:04 am

    It is the addiction to belief that is the problem

    Louis, I think you’ve touched on something but can’t see it.
    Any human behaviour that can be described as addiction is probably innate.

    No point fighting it – that’s for totalitarian social engineers.

  36. Biota

    IMO there is no chance of dialogue between believers and doubters on a large scale. First, it pays to remember that half of the population has an IQ <100 and it doesn't restrict this group from having a variety of careers. But they generally don't have enquiring minds; easier to be told what to believe. Second, even higher IQ individuals can have little by way of common sense, and outside their field of expertise, are happy to defer to others. Third, I recall reading years ago that CAGW was being pushed along by some global PR firms. This becomes apparent when the morphing of global warming into climate change into climate extremes into climate emergency is noted. The school kids protests are no grassroots movement, it has been purposefully developed. The agenda is clearly to bring about the destruction of western democratic society with the help of the mass of useful idiots who 'think' they are participating in a noble cause.

  37. iggie

    Just been comparing annual mean temperatures for Australia from 2002-2018 using the official BoM annual summaries and BoM timeseries.
    Every annual mean except 2018 has been adjusted by up to 0.14C. For instance, 2011’s annual mean was reported as -0.14C (below the 1961-1980 base line) but has been adjusted up to 0.00. 2007 has been adjusted from +0.67 to +0.75.
    This would reflect the ACORN2 temp homogenisation adjustments.
    It appears that annual means prior to 1960 have been reduced down but these are more difficult to compare.
    It appears that the 1914 AM has been adjusted down from +0.5C to 0.12C, almost half a degree.
    If this is the pattern, then the rise in temps have been adjusted up by nearly 0.5C since 1910.
    Man-made GW indeed.

  38. Tom

    Many years ago (as a teenager) I saw a brilliant documentary on the development and future of modern society shown on the ABC. the very British host postulated that just as religion once explained our world (& was found wanting), science was reaching the limits of it’s ability to explain our world – he was unsure as to what would replace science.

    He was unsure as to what would replace science? We saw it on Friday: Thousands of brainwashed, zombie children demanding the government “do something” about climate –in other words, an animist religious cult filling the moral void created by the abandonment of Christianity.

    Along with the abandonment of science and the embrace of scientism.

    All enabled by the news media, most of which has abandoned its job of being the public’s eyes and ears to parrot the political propaganda of socialism.

  39. Nato

    I haven’t felt this much shame at my schadenfreude since Mr Champion’s round of of some articles on this same issue this week.
    Prof Flannery saw as plainly as most of us that his own superior blend of education, intelligence and charisma singled him out uniquely to take up the mantle on behalf of a desperate world, because we are on the precipice of extinction. Now the human race is doomed because he wasn’t up for the challenge.

  40. Why don’t the sceptics groups get together and take a massive case to the Commissioner for Free Speech against the ABC and The Conversion and the many government departments that refuse to allow any discussion of the real science of climate.

    There should also be a powerful alliance of interests to lobby relentlessly for a Royal Commission into the science of climate.

  41. In answer to your question about what to do, nothing. Nothing at all. Every one of these crusades eventually collapses because they have no true foundation, only one of increasingly desperate lies. And that desperation soon enough becomes evident to everyone, including the children.

  42. None

    Along with the abandonment of science and the embrace of scientism.

    Which is what you get when you abandon Christianity.

  43. Old School Conservative

    stackja
    #3163176, posted on September 21, 2019 at 5:10 pm
    Where was Sussan Ley yesterday?

    Counting the numbers in her name.

  44. Enyaw

    The Federal and States Education ‘ MINISTERS ‘ should be sacked forthwith ..for allowing this nonsense..

  45. max

    It’s Not Just That Global Warming Is Fake. What Matters Is Why This Fakery Is Being Promoted.
    Gary North

    July 3, 2009
    Global warming is based 100% on junk science. The most vocal promoters are not interested in the details of physical science. They are interested in two things: political control over the general public and the establishment of international socialism.

    Back in the 1970’s, the bugaboo was the coming ice age, as this Time Magazine article promoted. Not to be outdone, Newsweek got on board. The article warned: “Climatologists are pessimistic that political leaders will take any positive action to compensate for the climatic change, or even to allay its effects.” Want more examples? Click here.
    It, too, was based on junk science. It, too, had the same solution: government control over the economy. The goal never changes: government management over the economy. The justification has changed. If the voters won’t accept control over their lives on the basis of one brand of junk science, maybe they will accept another. As they used to say in the Nixon Administration: “Let’s run this up the flagpole and see if anyone salutes.”

    Socialism’s Last Stand
    The global warming movement is not about global warming. It is about the creation of an international political control arrangement by which bureaucrats who favor socialism can gain control over the international economy.
    This strategy was stated boldly by economist Robert Heilbroner in 1990. Heilbroner, the multi-millionaire socialist and author of the best-selling history of economic thought, The Worldly Philosophers, wrote the manifesto for these bureaucrats. He did this in an article, “Reflections: After Communism,” published by The New Yorker (Sept. 10, 1990).
    In this article, he made an astounding admission. He said that Ludwig von Mises had been right in 1920 in his article, “Economic Calculation in the Socialist Commonwealth.” Mises argued that without private ownership, central planners could not know what any resource is worth to consumers. With no capital market, the planners would be flying blind.
    Heilbroner said that for 70 years, academic economists had either ignored this article or dismissed it without answering it. Then Heilbroner wrote these words: “Mises was right.”
    Heilbroner was one of these people. There is no reference to Mises in The Worldly Philosophers.
    This admission was the preliminary section of Heilbroner’s manifesto. He was cutting off all hope by socialists that there is a theoretically plausible response to Mises. The free market economy will always outproduce a socialist economy. Get used to it, he said.
    Then, in the second section, he called on his socialist peers to get behind the ecology movement. Here, he said, is the best political means for promoting central planning, despite its inefficiency. In the name of ecology, he said, socialists can get a hearing from politicians and voters.

    Heilbroner did not care that a worldwide government-run economic planning system would not be called called socialism. He just wanted to see the system set up.
    Heilbroner’s peers got the message. That was what Kyoto was all about.

    https://www.garynorth.com/public/5156.cfm

  46. max

    Where does majority socialist live?

    In academia and public schools.
    And we send our children to be educated by them.

  47. P

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  48. JohnL

    How many children – spoiled brats protested in Peking, or Moskow, or Mumbai? Does ABC have any “eminent” correspondents in these cities? Why are they not reporting?!?!

  49. Muddy
    #3163241, posted on September 21, 2019 at 6:35 pm

    …if we cannot force these climate totalitarians to engage in a dialogue.

    Oh.My.Funky.Donkey.

    That, right there, is why conservatism and all we hold dear, is doomed.
    The barbarians are inside the citadel, and you want to play Scrabble with them?

    Exactly right. The left doesn’t want a conversation let alone a debate. Why?
    Because we already conceded the science to them. We already agreed that CO2 is a problem. We just claimed CO2 wasn’t AS BIG a problem as all those gold standard UN scientists claim it is.
    And so you have Aussie of the year types like Flannery calling CO2 pollution. The average ill informed person thinks, pollution? we don’t want no steenking pollution in the atmosphere, our future is at stake.

    What were all those kids across the Western World telling us? DO SOMETHING AND DO IT NOW.
    Why would they demand such thing? BECAUSE EVEN WE AGREED THAT CO2 IS A PROBLEM.
    If even hard core sceptics agree that a gas…….A FRIGGING GAS, can TRAP heat in an open system, then you’ve got precisely zero chance of winning the argument, because it’s all a matter of degrees then isn’t it? How severe is the problem is the only question that needs to be answered once we agree to the lie that CO2 is pollution.

    That’s why the scam went from Climate Change to Climate Extreme to Climate Emergency. It’s just a matter of severity.
    So don’t go blaming the ABC or BBC for not wanting to waste precious air time on debating “the science” because the science is (apparently) settled. Even hard core sceptics agree the science is settled.

  50. Kingsley

    I am not so pessimistic Steve. Cast your mind back to 2015 and there was the looming disaster for the alarmists of ” the pause”. It was gaining increasing attention and coverage, then they were saved by the 2016 El Niño which muddied the waters and enabled them to say “see the temperature has gone up as far as the models said it would. ” Hideously dishonest but needless to say they used it.
    The El Niño is over and the temperature has dropped down to 0.38 for last two months versus the average of the models requiring it to be 0.9!!!! See the graph Alan Moran recently posted and apply the new data from UAH/ Dr Roy Spencer.
    We need to be getting back to remorselessly pointing this out. Just showing those graphs against the latest data every damn chance we get . I’m a stuck record on Facebook with those graphs. I note no alarmist has any actual direct answer to it. You just get some “isn’t it better to do something just in case, it’s just like insurance, blah blah.”
    If you meet someone who starts trotting out all the usual propaganda, ask them have they seen the current data versus the models? (They won’t have, I mean who checks the data before evangelising about CC) and confront them with it. You won’t change their minds but their credibility in front of others collapses and it will be news to the others too that there is a huge gap between the real data and the models.
    I also take your point about getting Andrew Bolt etc to talk about these things suffers from largely it is “preaching to our own choir” but the MSM do watch him, Rita Panahi, Chris Kenny etc. if you can get them to start pointing out “the pause is back” it will seep into the MSM over time.
    Keep fighting the good fight!

  51. Roger W

    The vast majority of children at the protests were female. They are taught by teachers who are predominantly women (maybe around 90% of the staff in some schools, especially primary schools). Is there a pattern here?

  52. Muddy

    The problem with the ‘give them enough rope’ tactic is the damage done prior to the eventual transition to a new existential issue. As each minute ticks over: there’s another $10,000 of taxpayer’s money, and another $10,000, and … etc. etc.

    This is not a ‘victimless crime’ so to speak. By neglecting to act, we are passive participants – co-defendants – in the vandalism of our own social and economic institutions.

  53. cohenite

    Why don’t the sceptics groups get together and take a massive case to the Commissioner for Free Speech against the ABC and The Conversion and the many government departments that refuse to allow any discussion of the real science of climate.

    I asked the same question here some time ago; then went away and did some research; there’s no legal basis for any such litigation. The closest I have is this:

    http://joannenova.com.au/2012/07/news-legal-action-against-agw/

  54. Dr F red Lenin

    If thse misled people keep following their manipulators and achieve socialism reality will be hard to take .
    They will not be anle to afford the totally unreliablr]e power for their homes,
    They might have an EV they can charge now and then ,if they can afford it ,
    The cities they live in will be third world slums with unbridled immigration , tents everywhere ,

    They will work for less wages than their parents had mif they can get a job through the migraant hordes ,
    They will be unabke to speak their mind fir fear of punishment ,
    There will be long lines waiting for the small amount if food available ,
    Water and sewage will be unreliable because of power blackouts .
    Public transport for the same reason,
    There will be a horrific crime rate with shootouts and murders daily ,
    They wont be allowed to emigrate ,there will be no where safe to go
    And many other benefits socialism brings <they will however be allowed to vote ,there will of course only be one candidate on the ballot paper,the socialist one ,they will always win with 109.85 of the vote .
    Socialism brings you the workless paradise .
    Australia will be one big Venezuela complete with shit on the streets .vote lefty fir ruin .

  55. Ros

    The Children’s Crusade with tantalising similarities with 1212. Then the boy begins to preach claiming he had been visited by Jesus. Our version a girl begins to preach claiming a sudden moment of clarity at 8, it came to her, the world was in danger and no one was doing anything. Jesus instructed the boy to lead a crusade. Our girl, informed by her special insights due to her intellectual difference, is informed by this understanding that she must lead a crusade. Lack of food for a number of years sharpens her insights. The boys, through a through a series of portents and miracles, gain a following of 30,000. Our girl through a series of activist and lunatic adult acts and events, gains a following of, according to reports, 4 million. And so the 30,000 marched. And so the 4 million marched. There are differences of course. The 30,000 expected the waters of the Meditersnnean to part to give them passage. Instead they were trafficked into slavery. But our girl, from the billionaires came a carbon footprint free super yacht, and carried her across the Atlantic.

    Another difference according to Antifasciste France, 350.org and Avaaz were involved in Paris, funding an agency to work with the Crusading Youth to organise the crusading strike. And to prevent them turning on them by infantilising and controlling them, or something. Stephen of Cloyes and Nicholad of Germany did not seem to have any professional agitators working for and with and over them.

    A google of 350 and Avaaz leaves no doubt they were players here too, organising, listing all the places and contacts etc, seems like they provided more than token resources.

  56. Ros

    Must object to the impression that the girls are sillier than the boys. My 2 grandchildren, 12 year old grandson had a mate attending, driven by his parents of course. This lad had a 10 year old sister who is a friend of the granddaughter. And she advised that her mate was most certainly not going and did not think at all well of her brothers ideas.

    And of course they are at a private school, who cancelled the year 7 grandparents day a couple of days before because of the weather. Not a drop of rain or a breath of wind on the day. Dont know which was more insulting, that they treated us as irrelevant, or thought we were so dumb we would believe their tale. As granddaughter said, inside what had the weather got to do with it. And the cream on the cake of Social Justice absurdity, the grandparents day was about touring the new STEAM centre.

  57. Mother Lode

    a world that the Alan Joneses and Andrew Bolts of the world have laboured so hard to create

    It reads as if he believes Jones and Bolt et al know precisely what they are (supposedly) doing and executing their diabolical scheme with all malice.

    Like a James Bond villain.

    It seems trite but also seems to need restating: The left believe their opponents to evil, the right just believes theirs to be wrong.

  58. Andrew Deakin

    What is to be done? Nothing. The ‘Extinction Rebellion’ is simply a rerun of extremist dissatisfaction that has characterised every age, period, and generation. Think the resource depletion scare of the 1970s (courtesy of a group of scientists publishing under the banner of the Club of Rome), the nuclear winter scare of the 1980s, the ‘Occupy’ movement of the 2000s, post-war hippies & beatniks, the counter culture and ‘radical chic’ of the 1960s, the fashion for Marxism in the 1930s, the numerous new age movements during the Great Acceleration of the 1890-1910 period, the sans culottes during the French upheavals in the 1790s, the Age of Revolution in the 1840s, the peasants revolt of the fourteenth century (brilliantly satirised by Shakespeare in his Jack Cade scenes Henry VI ii – ‘the first thing we do is kill all the lawyers’). And the list could be expanded tenfold. Cranks will always be with us. Most are ignored. Most of us ignored last Friday’s kiddies’ event. It may be a bit sad that things are now so good, relative to the scarcity most endured throughout history, that today’s young have only the weather to fire up their protest impulses. But, give them a break, let them have their fun, before they exhaust themselves and settle into monotonous, unsatisfying lives. For the rest of us, we’ll get on with life, developing, producing, and delivering for our families and country. Why all the fuss? And besides, the protesters are funny. Let’s all have a good laugh.

  59. Andrew Deakin
    #3164743, posted on September 23, 2019 at 11:48 am

    What is to be done? Nothing. The ‘Extinction Rebellion’ is simply a rerun of extremist dissatisfaction that has characterised every age, period, and generation.

    Nice list. Now name one of those on your list that has had an annual UN conference for over 20 years peddling it. Name one that’s had just about every university and scientific organization, both government and non government, pushing it like their life depended on it.

    AGW isn’t remotely like any of those you listed. Many that you listed were localised (sans culottes for example).
    AGW is more like the 20thC international push for communism without the regional hot wars and local violence that communism wrought.
    IMHO

  60. Overburdened

    Flannery is the 4th F in a sequence describing him.

    The first 3 are Fraudulent Failed and Fuckwit.

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