The UN and democracy

Jennifer Oriel has a great piece today at the Australian.

Silence is golden if you are the UN and climate change is your meal ticket. UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres has punished nonconformists ahead of the climate summit in New York this week.

Under his leadership, the founding freedoms of the UN are casually set aside for a political arrangement whereby opposition is censored, the corrupt are rewarded and youth are ­exploited for political ends. The UN is on a collision course with democracy. It is treating free world states with contempt by silencing developed nations that depend on coal for reliable energy and prosperity.

This comes after the news that Australia has been deplatformed at the coming UN climate summit.

I’m going to disagree with Jennifer on one point:

The UN is on a collision course with democracy.

Not that she isn’t correct – the UN is by definition anti-democratic.  But in the sense that the democratic nations of the world will do nothing about the UN.

Earlier this year a government agency attempted to deplatform me after I had made a submission to a government inquiry. The rationale being that my appearance would violate a UN convention.  So think about it: An Australian citizen could not make a submission to the Australian government in an Australian public policy consultation in a matter relating to Australian legislation because the United Nations disapproved.

That is the extent to which the UN has penetrated democratic government. Now the UN has deplatformed the entire Australian government – and by implication the Australian electorate.

So here is the thing: Has Australia withdrawn from the summit? Recalled its participants? Withheld funding? Actually done anything? To ask the questions, I suspect, is to answer them too.

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40 Responses to The UN and democracy

  1. John A

    This comes after the news that Australia has been deplatformed at the coming UN climate summit.

    Hmm, doesn’t diplomatic parity require a commensurate response: Australia de-platforming the UN?

  2. Of course the Greens and their supporters will declare that Australia has been de-platformed because they are not doing enough to address climate change.

    But let’s hope that de-platforming is the start of Australia’s withdrawal from this filthy organisation of and for the corrupt.

  3. Rex Mango

    Shall defer to Steyn on the UN:

    [N]o matter how disgustingly [the United Nations] behave a substantial chunk of the American electorate and big majorities in every other western nation hear the words “United Nations” and automatically associate it with benign multilateralism. They’ve got some old Polaroid of Audrey Hepburn surrounded by multiethnic UNICEF moppets lodged in the back of their heads, and it never fades. So I’m in favour of the serious powers allowing the UN to decay into an irrelevant talking-shop for Third World dictators and their European apologists. Lots of offices linger on long after they’ve outlived their usefulness: in England, there’s still a Sheriff of Nottingham, but he doesn’t chase Robin Hood and guys in green tights through Sherwood Forest any more; it’s just an empty ceremonial office. That’s what the UN should be.

    Mark Steyn

    There is no great issue facing the world today that can’t be made worse by having a UN conference on it.

    Mark Steyn

    The UN doesn’t solve problems, it manages them in perpetuity: it turns them into Les Misérables; come back two decades later and it’s still running. Even without the corruption and drugs and child-sex rings, it’s not an impressive record. Any German contemplating Palestine’s “refugee” “camps”, now celebrating their golden jubilee, ought to be grateful his country enjoyed the straightforward benefits of victors’ justice.

    Mark Steyn

  4. Percy Popinjay

    Why are we even in the frigging UN? It’s an inexcusable abomination.

  5. Dr F red Lenin

    To be like the EU unelected comissars is the goal of the unelected UN globalists . The destruction of Western Industry and reducing the people of the west to socialist penury will make them easier to control .
    Meanwhile the Chinese are building coal fired power stations to supply electricity to the factories making solar panels and wind turbines to sell to the west to ruin their economies.
    The alpbc having orgasms over the bogus climate claims and a bunch of indoctrinated kids , showing massive solar farms in China ,as if ! They are orobablt the storage area for the manufacturers Can you see China relying on the false stupid power set up inflicted on us by our sixth rate polliemuppets .?
    Its the old national Socialist nazi mantra ,”repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth “

  6. Herodotus

    One has to try very hard to find something Jennifer Oriel says that can score you a point of “disagreement”.
    She’s gorgeous, stylish, and one of the most insightful people in the media.

  7. Doc Fred:
    I get the feeling that the world is experiencing a rising level of ideological lunacy.
    At the moment, the Western World seems to be ready to explode into a gigantic ball of stupid, and it appears to be orchestrated. The climate activism has become almost hysterical over the last six months with Pol Tot sailing over the waves like Jesus and the Second Coming.
    The kids are absolutely neurotic, and their parents are oblivious.
    No Western government seems capable any more of reflecting the wishes of their citizens, in fact they seem hell bent on bringing in the surveillance state in an indecent hurry.
    Maybe if I have a nap, it will help.
    Things could get worse…
    🙂

  8. stackja

    United Nations provided a umbrella for Korean ‘police action’.
    Since then nothing.
    UN has seemingly worsened problems in Africa and Middle East

  9. nb

    Where’s the graft in solving problems?
    Invented problems have many attractions.

  10. stackja

    nb – Yes. Africa and Middle East good examples.

  11. Russell

    Yep UN is just another “protection racket” extorting funds from law-abiding nations with a promise of peace, harmony and equality for all. What could go wrong.
    In another universe everyone would see them as a mob of crooks.

  12. The Beer Whisperer

    In a just world, the UN building in New York would be converted into a parking lot.

    Or better still, another Trump Tower.

  13. mem

    It says a lot that Venezuela is on the General Assembly and on the Economic and Social Council of the United Nations No doubt the UN believes that Venezuela is a progressive country that has earned the right to call other nations to account on how they manage their affairs! What a farce!

  14. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Percy Popinjay
    #3164810, posted on September 23, 2019 at 1:14 pm

    Why are we even in the frigging UN? It’s an inexcusable abomination.

    Correct.

    …and bring on sortition.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sortition

  15. Stackja:

    United Nations provided a umbrella for Korean ‘police action’.
    Since then nothing.
    UN has seemingly worsened problems in Africa and Middle East

    The troops are still on Cyprus, and that lot will blow up again as Turkey decides to bring pressure on Western Europe.

  16. egg_

    Meanwhile the Chinese are building coal fired power stations to supply electricity to the factories making solar panels and wind turbines to sell to the west to ruin their economies.

    China’s coal-fired Grid is probably far more reliable than ours.

  17. Dan Dare

    Seriously. how does a country leave the UN?
    Can we just say “You’re fired”?
    Or “Fuck off”?
    Has anyone ever left?

  18. egg_

    At the moment, the Western World seems to be ready to explode into a gigantic ball of stupid, and it appears to be orchestrated. The climate activism has become almost hysterical over the last six months with Pol Tot sailing over the waves like Jesus and the Second Coming.

    What’s the next phase – an angsty self-mutilating Trannie with razor blades as facial je wellery?

  19. stevem

    No only is China building more coal fired power stations they also have the gall to issue the following:

    “Climate finance is one of the major aspects of ­effective tackling of climate change. As the largest developing country, China is also entitled to funds support. China urges the developed countries to honour the commitment of $US100bn allocation each year from 2020 on to support the developing world in addressing climate change.”

  20. …they also have the gall to issue the following…

    Why blame them for gaming the system when the system is so stupid?

  21. Overburdened

    One remembers the angst of UN peace keepers in the former Yugoslavia and in Rwanda who were compelled to watch the perpetration of violence with no rules of engagement to remedy the situation or protect the victims.
    It appears that the UN is partisan in its decision making.
    It is also an issue that the UN itself has the sway of a State actor in its ability to establish agendas that are then imposed on the domestic politics of its members.
    The UN is the enabler of conflict and wealth redistribution.
    It would be best if like minded Countries voted with their feet and looked after their own.
    This probably means that I am an isolationist.

  22. Dr Fred Lenin

    The answer to the u.n. Problem is like the answer to socialism ,deprive them onother peoples money . Them simply declare it a subversive group and ban it ,confiscating any assets it has can you imagine them crawling to soros for money to keep the monkey house in New York going ? They would have to retrench thousands of taxeaters who would be unemployable . We coukd then make our own treaties and contacts with the people we want and ignore the rest . Wewoukd need a long parliamentary session to repeal all u.n related laws our polliemuppets signed up for , human rites ,sex equality ,poofter “marriage compusory abortion and euthanasia ,climate fantasy etc., etc., clear the swamp up . Heads should roll for the irresponsible damaging acts of the past , the globalist fascists must be punished .

  23. duncanm

    The Philippine president, Duterte , had the right idea. Addressing United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights, Zeid Ra’ad al-Hussein..

    Maybe we’ll just have to decide to separate from the United Nations. If you are that insulting, son of a bitch, we should just leave.

  24. Alex Davidson

    So think about it: An Australian citizen could not make a submission to the Australian government in an Australian public policy consultation in a matter relating to Australian legislation because the United Nations disapproved.

    Submissions are generally a waste of time, because the political class operates on the basis of power, not reason and logic, and outcomes are almost always predetermined. They only ever end up as propaganda used to support claims our masters have ‘listened’. The very fact they call them ‘submissions’ says it all. And why do we need their permission before we can tell them what we think about their commandments?

  25. Squirrel

    If they really care about the environment, why aren’t they holding these talk-fests by video link? (that’s a serious question, even though the real answer is obvious).

  26. Nob

    Dr F red Lenin
    #3164819, posted on September 23, 2019 at 1:27 pm
    To be like the EU unelected commissars is the goal of the unelected UN globalists

    Other way around. EU commissars dream of UN-like job security.

    Leftists love supra-national government especially when they have “Tory” national governments.
    They love because then the people get leftism even when they vote against it.

    However the EU agreements on local state subsidy and nationalisation of industries sticks in the craw of the unemotional hard left , hence the rump of Brexit tendency among Corybn’s communists.

  27. entropy

    If you want to get really depressed just have a gander at any explanatory memorandum for a Bill before the Australian Parliament. About as much space is taken up explaining how the Bill is complaint with this or that UN agreement as there is explaining all the sections of the Bill.

    All virtue signalling tosh that has no place requiring subservience of the Australian Parliament.

  28. struth

    Don’t tell me people are starting to wake up.
    Can’t be happening. ……

  29. Rebel with cause

    Withdrawing from the UN would also have the effect of seriously diminishing the power of the Australian Government to intrude on the lives of its citizens. Much of what the Australian Government does would be unconstitutional were it not giving effect to international agreements, of which the UN has produced a steady supply of.

  30. Fair shake of the Sauce bottle

    Has anyone ever left?

    Hotel California style.

    As for the UN Building, it’s a waste of a excellent paintball centre and stray cat home.

  31. None

    Earlier this year a government agency attempted to deplatform me after I had made a submission to a government inquiry.

    What the? Why wasn’t this front page news or did I miss something? Please tell me that some heads rolled over this outrage.

  32. None

    The US funds the overwhelming majority of UN institutions and operations. If they withdraw funding China will just take over.

  33. stackja

    Headquarters of the United Nations
    From Wikipedia

    Site
    The headquarters of the United Nations occupies a site beside the East River, on between 17 and 18 acres (6.9 and 7.3 ha)[a] of land purchased from the real estate developer William Zeckendorf Sr.[11] At the time, the site was part of Turtle Bay, which was filled with slaughterhouses and tenement buildings.[9] By the 1910s, there was also a pencil factory and a gas company building in Turtle Bay, on the site of the current UN headquarters. The development of Sutton Place and Beekman Place, north of the current UN site, came in the 1920s. A yacht club on the site was proposed in 1925, but it proved to be too expensive.[11]

    In 1946, Zeckendorf purchased the land with the intention to create an “X City” on the site.[10] This complex was to contain an office building and a hotel, each 57 stories tall, and an entertainment complex between them. The X City would have also had smaller apartment and office towers.[11] However, the $8.5 million ($72 million in 2018) for X City never materialized, and Nelson Rockefeller purchased an option for Zeckendorf’s waterfront land in Turtle Bay. The purchase was funded by Nelson’s father, John D. Rockefeller Jr.. The Rockefeller family owned the Tudor City Apartments across First Avenue from the Zeckendorf site.[10] The city, in turn, spent $5 million ($43 million in 2018) on clearing the land.[9]

  34. Crossie

    Dare
    #3164911, posted on September 23, 2019 at 3:32 pm
    Seriously. how does a country leave the UN?
    Can we just say “You’re fired”?
    Or “Fuck off”?
    Has anyone ever left?

    We just stop giving them money. It’s not as if our vote there is worth anything, the sane countries are in the minority and should withdraw in protest.

  35. Crossie

    None
    #3165162, posted on September 23, 2019 at 8:08 pm
    The US funds the overwhelming majority of UN institutions and operations. If they withdraw funding China will just take over.

    Let China take over, let them spend some of their money on stupid causes.

  36. RobertS

    President Trump could deposit a reasonable sum in President Mnangagwa’s secret Swiss bank account in order to secure 18 acres of prime real estate in Harare and then offer to fund a new UN HQ on the site.
    Makes perfect sense to me.

  37. Up The Workers!

    Antonio Guterres might be a gullible, clue-phobic Humpty-Dumptyist, but his saving grace (and it is a biggie) is that he is a Portuguese gullible, clue-phobic Humpty-Dumptyist, and not an Australian one.

    How much more embarrassing would it have been if Australia’s ‘Krudd the Munificent’ had won the Secretary-General’s role and was now propagating scientifically-illiterate kiddy fairy-tales as serious global policy from a United Nations religious-cult pulpit?

    The only question that remains is why are we still financially contributing to this rotten organisation of tyrants, barbarians, head-loppers, terrorist regimes and freeloaders for such worthless purposes and being forbidden to speak even when we do show up, because we have committed the unpardonable sin of being almost realistic about the carpet-bagging global warming scam? It is just a scam to take trillions of dollars from the coffers of productive nations and stuff it into the pockets of corrupt dictators, freeloaders and crooks.

    You can tell a lot about a political philosophy by looking at the sort of people who support/promote it.

    Apocalyptic catastrophism is supported by school kiddies who see it as an excuse to wag school, and is promoted by the vile fact-phobic Leftards who lead the truants on. In an ideal world, Australia could make a massive contribution to this whole field by gathering all the U.N. Leftards together and shipping them, together with a couple of years’ supply of dried Mung Beans, off to Macquarie Island, where they could cogitate to their hearts’ content, on what a terrible thing it would be if the world ever warmed.

    I reckon that they might change their attitude by about the time hell freezes over, by which time we will have forgotten all about them.

  38. nfw

    Oh no, Australia has been de-platformed from a corrupt and meaningless “summit”. That means we can de-platform any contributions to the UN ever again. Of course our globalist marxist public servants won’t stand for that and our gutless so-called conservative federal government will apologise and sell out the Australian public and our taxes yet again.

  39. struth

    Antonio Guterres might be a gullible, clue-phobic Humpty-Dumptyist, but his saving grace (and it is a biggie) is that he is a Portuguese gullible, clue-phobic Humpty-Dumptyist, and not an Australian one.

    He is an active globwl socialist and head of International Socialism.

    He’s been a main instigator of bringing the walls down in western countries via being head of UN immigration program before he was sec gen.
    Please don’t brush this arsehole aside as just being gullible.
    He is one of our greatest and most powerful and active enemies.
    By far.

  40. Mother Lode

    But let’s hope that de-platforming is the start of Australia’s withdrawal from this filthy organisation of and for the corrupt.

    Well, Scomo is in the US. Perhaps Trump can give him a hint as to how to view this and how to respond – instead of awaiting directions from the ABC.

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