C.L. : Tongans told – dump Folau or else

A possible new legal front – this time international – has opened today in the ugly war on Israel Folau by Australia’s left-wing football officials. It is being reported that Folau has been cleared to resume his stellar career in his homeland by Tonga’s rugby league bosses. Earlier this year, the star playmaker was banned by the Australian Rugby Union and the Australian Rugby League for being a Christian. In what must have been frenzied scenes last night, an angry ARL committee chairman Peter Beattie (whose ignorance of the game has made him a national laughing stock) was reportedly “scrambling” to force the Tongan National Rugby League to change its mind and abandon Folau. Beattie has indicated he will seek to overrule the Tongans at the Rugby League International Federation. However, it seems the Tongans were ready for Australian theatrics. They are armed with legal advice that neither Beattie nor the ARL have the right to block Folau’s selection.

This is taking hatred of Folau to new levels of malice and recklessness. For starters, it is now impossible not to acknowledge the racial overtones. We now have white Australian officials led by Beattie (and backed by gay Irish plutocrat Alan Joyce) trying to monster a black nation and deprive Folau of the right to ply his trade anywhere on earth – even in his native land. The move reeks of nineteenth century condescension and, if successful, would humiliate the Tongan people. What did Beattie think would happen here? Did he think the Tongans would capitulate? (Does he know any Tongans?). Did he think he could expel an entire nation from the game? The arrogance and prejudice are breathtaking. This is the worst call made by Beattie since he campaigned tirelessly to make Keith Wright Premier of Queensland. He has to go. He is an embarrassment to rugby league and to Australia.

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85 Responses to C.L. : Tongans told – dump Folau or else

  1. stackja

    Peter Beattie the joker.

  2. mh

    When the Left see blacks not following ‘the rules’ they quickly reveal their real views of them – nig gers.

  3. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    the homosexual will be displeased

  4. Bronson

    Peter ‘I’m sorry’ Beattie still stuffing up after all these years first Queensland, then the Commonwealth Games now the NRL. You employ peanuts what do you expect?

  5. Bruce

    Cheater Beatup: what a legend……….

  6. Bruce of Newcastle

    Beattie has indicated he will seek to overrule the Tongans at the Rugby League International Federation.

    In a code full of islanders you are beating on an islander, eh Pete?
    ARL: beautiful one day, completely stuffed the next.

  7. stackja

    Former Wallabies star Israel Folau eyes shock rugby league return

    Update: The NRL is desperately trying to veto a shock bid for Israel Folau to return to rugby league following his sacking by Rugby Australia in May. Should he be allowed? Vote in our poll.
    Fatima Kdouh and Dean Ritchie, The Daily Telegraph
    Subscriber only

    September 24, 2019 9:26am

    Should Israel Folau be allowed to play Test for Tonga?
    1454 Voters
    Yes, why not?
    77%
    No way
    23%

  8. Karabar

    He lavishly displayed his ignorance as Premier. What mental midget decided he would be good at this job?

  9. One can only deduce that there must be some serious bribery and/or blackmail afoot.

  10. Rex Mango

    Folau now a true climate refugee, he’s being forced into exile due the climate of intolerance in Australia.

  11. duncanm

    I do so hope the Tongan team (with Israel) comes and whoops the Aus team some time in the near future.

  12. shady

    Beattie will be stepping down as chairman of the NRL before the 2020 season starts so no consequences for him causing trouble now. Par for the course for Beattie, a leopard never changes his spots.

  13. FelixKruell

    For starters, it is now impossible not to acknowledge the racial overtones.

    Please don’t give these types of identity-based victim hood claims oxygen.

    You can happily make the point that the Australians shouldn’t get to dictate to any other country who can/can’t play for them, outside of the existing agreed-upon rules. If Australian doesn’t want Folau to play because of his views, that’s Australia’s decision (subject to the court case on foot). But that shouldn’t give them any right to stop him making a living elsewhere in the world.

  14. Des Deskperson

    Scroll down on this link and you will find a list of NRL’s ‘Corporate Partners’:

    https://www.nrl.com/about-us/

    They include P&O, KFC, Coke, VB, GM Holden, Harvey Norman, Home Timber and Hardware, Wolf Blass, Chemist Warehouse and Sportsbet.

    The NRL also get ‘support’ from the NSW Government, the Queensland Government, the City of Brisbane, the City of Perth and the City of Adelaide [why the last one??] I thought Victoria also ‘partnered’, but it doesn’t appear here.

    How do this lot feel about what can only be described as sub-cerebral vindictiveness by the NRL.

    The State and municipal ‘partners ‘ are doubtless fine with it.

  15. Roger

    Folau has been cleared to resume his stellar career in his homeland by Tonga’s rugby league bosses.

    A slight correction…

    Israel’s homeland is Australia.

    His parents were born in Tonga, which qualifies him to play for their national RL team.

    Beattie’s overreach in this matter reflects poorly on the ARL.

  16. Tel

    The motto of the Tongan National Rugby League team is, “We would die for Tonga”.

    Let’s see what Peter Beattie is made of … now that he has decided to step up and take them on.

  17. Iampeter

    has opened today in the ugly war on Israel Folau by Australia’s left-wing football officials.

    People who think businesses can’t fire people are also left wing.

    For starters, it is now impossible not to acknowledge the racial overtones.

    People who engage in leftist identity politics are also leftists.

    So a more accurate way of describing the situation is: a bunch of leftist kooks are angry with another bunch of leftist kooks.

    Exit question: who gives a shit?

    Side note: when you behave the way Folau has behaved then you SHOULD have trouble finding employment again. That’s a feature, not a bug

  18. C.L.

    Felix, don’t pretend that the dishonesty of left-wing race politics means that no genuine racism should be discerned and called out. The ARL and Beattie are treating Folau and Tonga in this manner precisely because they’re not white. Or do you think Beattie would have ‘scrambled’ last night to stand over the English rugby league about who they may or may not select?

  19. C.L.

    … when you behave the way Folau has behaved then you SHOULD have trouble finding employment again…

    I think your ideological predecessors said the same thing to Rosa Parks.

  20. Tim Neilson

    Side note: when you behave the way Folau has behaved then you SHOULD have trouble finding employment again. That’s a feature, not a bug

    This is exactly correct! But we can do better than just leave it to wealthy, powerful, well connected participants in the big government/big union/big corporate triumvirate to enforce it ad hoc. The Chinese social credit system solves all these problems without the need for recalcitrants like the Tongans to be forced to take part in destroying someone’s life. It’s the true blue libertarian way to stamp out intolerance! You KNOW it makes sense!!!!!

  21. The BigBlueCat

    Side note: when you behave the way Folau has behaved then you SHOULD have trouble finding employment again. That’s a feature, not a bug

    I don’t normally use this sort of language, but please, FUCK OFF!

  22. FelixKruell

    CL:

    Felix, don’t pretend that the dishonesty of left-wing race politics means that no genuine racism should be discerned and called out. The ARL and Beattie are treating Folau and Tonga in this manner precisely because they’re not white.

    Of course genuine racism should be called out. But you haven’t really established why there is genuine racism here – just noted that one party is black and the other white. That ain’t enough.

    And yes, I think if Folau tried to play for South Africa or the UK, Beattie would have equally scrambled. His concern is likely that it circumvents Australia’s decision. Not that the other country is from the pacific islands.

  23. The BigBlueCat

    And yes, I think if Folau tried to play for South Africa or the UK, Beattie would have equally scrambled. His concern is likely that it circumvents Australia’s decision. Not that the other country is from the pacific islands.

    Beattie is being a douche! We should all agree on that. Is he being racist? Possibly but not conclusively so. But what the hell?? Why has he made it his life mission to ensure Folau doesn’t play Rugby League for Tonga? Is he afraid? Beattie claims to be a Christian … but clearly he has trouble acting like one (you know, turn the other check, forgiveness, mercy, etc).

  24. Is it true that when he got the ARL job, Beattie said his favourite Rugby League team was the Queensland Reds?

  25. J.H.

    Peter Beattie and Alan Joyce have brought Australian Ruby Union into disrepute. Peter Beattie needs to be sacked and they both need to be banned from any future involvement and decision making in the game or its administration.

    Qantas would do well to end Joyce’s employment as he is also damaging the brand name and reputation of Qantas.

  26. Fred

    Very similar to the D’Oliveira Affair in cricket.

    England picked a black man for the 1968-69 tour of South Africa. It didn’t end well for South African cricket.

    In this case the role of B.J. Vorster is being played by Peter Beattie and not only does Beattie want to ban a black man, but also a christian.

  27. Iampeter

    I think your ideological predecessors said the same thing to Rosa Parks.

    It was your ideological predecessors that were hassling Rosa Parks.

    You KNOW it makes sense!!!!!

    Those are your positions, you’re sarcastically trying to project onto me.

    The whole point of my original post was that you leftards are so totally politically illiterate that you don’t know which side you’re actually on. This is why conservatives are the stupidest leftists.

    I don’t normally use this sort of language, but please, FUCK OFF!

    No, normally you just post walls of text of stupid.
    So at least your clueless ravings are getting more succinct.

  28. The BigBlueCat

    No, normally you just post walls of text of stupid.
    So at least your clueless ravings are getting more succinct.

    Neither stupid, clueless or raving. But succinct, yes. Just do it! Please.

    I guess you know all about stupid, clueless ravings, being the prime exemplar!

  29. Iampeter

    Neither stupid, clueless or raving. But succinct, yes. Just do it! Please.

    I guess you know all about stupid, clueless ravings, being the prime exemplar!

    Shutup you clueless twit.
    You have no business on a politics blog.
    You are exemplar of clueless leftards that dominate on what is meant to be a right wing blog.

  30. Some History

    Lamepeter,

    Right… Left… Right… Right… Left… Right… Left… Left

    That’s a “paradiddle” (look it up).

  31. Iampeter

    Of course genuine racism should be called out. But you haven’t really established why there is genuine racism here

    There are genuine and proud racists at the Cat and C.L. has no problem with them.
    This is just another example of shameless hypocrisy and self contradiction.

    Bottom line, there’s nothing these unprincipled leftists, like CL, won’t say, to help advance whatever random cause of the moment they have.

    You’re wasting your time looking for any consistency, coherence, or honesty.

  32. JC

    Peter

    The meds don’t seem to be working well today. You really need to experiment with the dosage a lot more. As a well respected psychiatrist, I’m very disturbed to see you in this condition and CL’s smack down earlier in the thread most certainly didn’t help. Clean yourself up, get the foam off your mouth and have a nap.

  33. Des Deskperson

    ‘Of course genuine racism should be called out. But you haven’t really established why there is genuine racism here – just noted that one party is black and the other white. That ain’t enough.’

    Well, yes, but there have been elements of condescension, bordering on racism, in some of the commentary on the issue. Here’s Peter Fitzgibbon’s ‘letter’ to Queensland Reds and Wallabies prop Taniela Topou:

    https://www.smh.com.au/sport/taniela-tupou-can-i-ask-you-what-would-jesus-do-20190501-p51j5y.html

    There’s the ‘some of my best friends..’ opening, but check out the generally patronising and talking down tone – ‘where to begin?’ as an obvious example. When a university educated white man from a wealthy private school background with lots money, mates and contacts feels he can tell a person of colour who has dragged himself up on the basis of his sporting ability, ‘It’s about as simple as that’ – which, of course, it isn’t -well, there is a problem.

  34. I_am_not_a_robot

    … the star playmaker was banned by the Australian Rugby Union and the Australian Rugby League for being a Christian …

    Goodness, Rugby Union in Australia has a total of 41,049 registered adult players while Rugby League has a total of 51,540 registered adult players and Israel Folau is the only Christian.
    I didn’t know that.

  35. Iampeter

    JC, you are a raving imbecile that only posts here because you’d be banned anywhere else.
    As such, it’s pretty understandable that you would be totally confused about who is laying the smack down.
    Now go back to spinning the propeller on your hat and screaming “wheeee!”

  36. feelthebern

    If this Folau case happened in the US, Beattie would face criminal charges (& no doubt civil litigation post that).
    Regardless what you think about Colin Kaepernick & an NFL franchise owners rights regarding not employing him, it is illegal in the US to collude or force/bully other organisations to not employ someone.
    The NFL settled the collusion case out of court with Kaepernick.
    Australia needs to update it’s IR laws to protect workers from corporate collusion like we are seeing with the NRL & Folau.

  37. I_am_not_a_robot

    My bad, ...was the only Christian.

  38. JC

    Peter.
    I’m not banned anywhere as I don’t post anywhere else. Please, please follow my advice regarding the medications because it’s important you don’t go through these “froth swings” in the future. it’s important for your well being.

  39. feelthebern

    Apart from the CFMMEU (or whatever it’s called these days), I haven’t heard any other union speak up in support of Folau.

    This is the most egregious case of a corporation abusing a workers rights in the the last decade – at least – in Australia.

  40. IainC

    Interfering in the affairs of a sovereign nation? Impeach Beattie!

  41. Overburdened

    Beattie is a narcissistic buffoon who believes that there is no bad publicity.

    It is a source of constant amusement that clowns such as Beattie will somehow try to persuade the masses of the virtue of their decisions in spite of the issue being one of tolerance of difference, which is the hallmark of the age of reason and social tolerance.

    The Left will eventually either flame out or move to direct action to achieve their goal of domination.

    How disappointed all the clowns who have drank the Kool Aid will be if the Left prevails on a broader canvas that a mob of beefed up boofheads chasing a footy.

  42. The BigBlueCat

    Shutup you clueless twit.
    You have no business on a politics blog.
    You are exemplar of clueless leftards that dominate on what is meant to be a right wing blog.

    Seriously, dude, you are like a child! Go away!

  43. cohenite

    Who is this peter fuckwit?

  44. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Iampeter
    #3166008, posted on September 24, 2019 at 2:37 pm

    JC, you are a raving imbecile that only posts here because you’d be banned anywhere else.
    As such, it’s pretty understandable that you would be totally confused about who is laying the smack down.
    Now go back to spinning the propeller on your hat and screaming “wheeee!”

    Go back to dressing up in an Ayn Rand skin suit and flogging your cock in front of a mirror, weirdo.

  45. Iampeter

    If this Folau case happened in the US, Beattie would face criminal charges (& no doubt civil litigation post that).

    Not sure that you could have a Folau case in the US. Their employment laws are not as commie as ours.
    But if they did, I wouldn’t be surprised to find conservative imbeciles claiming “religious rights” were being violated. Conservatives have this one thing in common all over the globe: they have no clue.

    Apart from the CFMMEU (or whatever it’s called these days), I haven’t heard any other union speak up in support of Folau.

    That’s OK because conservatives are providing the leftist talking points we’d normally look to unions for.

    This is the most egregious case of a corporation abusing a workers rights in the the last decade – at least – in Australia.

    Like I said…

  46. Iampeter

    Seriously, dude, you are like a child! Go away!

    This is a description of you, not me.
    So shut up and take the other raving idiots with you.

  47. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Anyway, I’m off to a Manly-Warringah Sharks game.

  48. Tailgunner

    Hi Grigory!
    #nopoolrampsinRichmond

  49. Tailgunner

    Manly-Warringah
    Fkn local member better be there,mate.
    Xunt.
    #Wundmills4Warringah

  50. Beachcomber

    Folau has shown that he he is not a UniParty faithful. He will not recant his Christian beliefs and therefore the Establishment will destroy him.

  51. feelthebern

    Not sure that you could have a Folau case in the US.

    Moron.
    There was.
    I mentioned it my post.
    He got a big pay day from the NFL.
    Learn to read whole sentences.

  52. Iampeter

    Moron.
    There was.
    I mentioned it my post.
    He got a big pay day from the NFL.
    Learn to read whole sentences.

    Oh LOL. I didn’t realize that happened.
    You do realize you supporting a leftist lawsuit like that proves the point I’ve been making all thread?
    Of course you do. That’s why you’re triggered.

    Nothing like the Folau case to prove that conservatives are the most clueless leftists on the planet.

    Gotta love it when cat-level, capital M, Morons, try to accuse anyone of being a moron…

  53. feelthebern

    It’s not leftist you moron.
    It’s the right of the individual.
    Go back to being a moron you moronic sock puppet.

  54. Rococo Liberal

    Go back to dressing up in an Ayn Rand skin suit and flogging your cock in front of a mirror, weirdo.

    Now there’s an image that I wish didn’t come inot my mind.

  55. C.L.

    Beattie claims to be the number 1 ticket holder for the Parramatta Otters.

  56. Rococo Liberal

    Peter: Slang for “penis”. Attested from 1902, probably from identity of first syllable.

    Tell me, IamPeter , do you realise that your screen name is basically a declaration that you are a dick?

    I would also ask, are you a professional wanker or just a gifted amateur?

  57. bespoke

    Iampeter

    If I was your employer:

    Is it Ok for me to sack you for post things I don’t like hear?

  58. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    C.L.
    #3166150, posted on September 24, 2019 at 4:39 pm

    Beattie claims to be the number 1 ticket holder for the Parramatta Otters.

    Why doesn’t he root for the Brisbane Brumbies?

  59. JC

    It’s Episodic Buccal Cavity* Frothing Spasm. I wrote a published piece in the New England Medical Journal.

    Us Docs use as the medical term for mouth.

  60. Iampeter

    It’s not leftist you moron.
    It’s the right of the individual.
    Go back to being a moron you moronic sock puppet.

    Forcing someone to employ those they don’t want to is the “right of the individual?”
    It’s “not leftist?”
    LOL.

    Like I said, stop throwing the word “moron” around you moron leftard. You don’t know what ANY of the words you’re using mean.

  61. Iampeter

    I would also ask, are you a professional wanker or just a gifted amateur?

    Of course you would. You don’t know anything about politics so throwing ad hominem is all clueless leftists like you can do.

    Iampeter
    If I was your employer:
    Is it Ok for me to sack you for post things I don’t like hear?

    What do you think?
    Also, do you imagine that cuts in only one direction, oh-genius-one-who-is-about-to-really-step-in-it?

    Can’t wait for further responses from the internets most clueless leftists as they herp and derp trying to avoid facing up to the fact that they have no business on a right-wing blog, or ANY political blog for that matter.

  62. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Piss off you idiot. Some of us have help found actual conservative and libertarian parties.

    You are a clueless, USELESS troll.

  63. None

    Well said, C.L. Beattie basically should have been fired the moment he’s stuck his fat head out and without anyone ever asking saying, that Folau was not welcome at the NRL.Beattie is a bigot and a racist in my view, and if there was any doubt, this last episode just confirms it.

  64. slackster

    You are a clueless, USELESS troll.

    Every-time one of you respond to it he succeeds, even one response is job well done
    Wonder if whoever sock account it is is running a data set on who keeps taking the bait

  65. Iampeter

    Whatever you say slackster.
    As long as you can fool yourselves you can keep LARPing discussing politics, right?

  66. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    We’ll keep on getting people elected and winning court cases, thanks.

  67. Lee

    If a conservative or right winger tells black or “coloured” people what they can or can’t do he or she is labelled a “racist.”

    If a lefty like Beattie does it, it’s perfectly okay.

    If the left didn’t have double standards, they would have none.

  68. Empire 5:5

    bespoke
    #3166152, posted on September 24, 2019 at 4:40 pm

    It’s fake. It can’t answer any question honestly, which is why it doesn’t.

  69. Dr Fred Lenin

    I ignore that peter ,hes like socialism starve him and he will disapper , socialism dies without OPM, he will go if hes ignored ,Im taking a leaf out of the left socialist book ,ignore criticism ,it doesnt exist .

  70. bespoke

    True Empire 5:5 but it’s fun exposing it.

  71. bespoke

    slackster

    I get not engaging Trolls but holding up the white flag and trying to shame others into surrender is odd.

  72. mh

    Iampeter
    #3165986, posted on September 24, 2019 at 2:00 pm
    I think your ideological predecessors said the same thing to Rosa Parks.

    It was your ideological predecessors that were hassling Rosa Parks.

    No Peter, it was your ideological predecessors….

  73. Lee

    #3165986, posted on September 24, 2019 at 2:00 pm

    I think your ideological predecessors said the same thing to Rosa Parks.

    It was your ideological predecessors that were hassling Rosa Parks.

    No Peter, it was your ideological predecessors….

    Never let it be forgotten that it was actually the Democrats who opposed desegregation in the U.S., including a governor of Alabama, George Wallace, who ran for the presidency four times, three as a Democrat, once as the American Independent Party candidate.

  74. pete m

    Peter Beattie should stick to screwing around with other politicians daughters.

    Total fake and useless employee.

  75. Iampeter

    Yes, yes. The guy pointing out entry-level points that demonstrate you are on the same side as the leftists you think you’re opposing must just be trolling you.

    I mean, what’s the alternative?

    That you are literally the stupidest leftists on the internet?

    Nah, it just couldn’t be that…

  76. JC

    Peter

    What time is computer lock down in the mental facility you reside?

  77. Publius

    this is the very definition of trying to impose white privilege.
    funny how the right is always accused of it but its always falling on the left. like fascism and hate speech and everything else.

  78. dover_beach

    I see IamMengele is making a fool of himself again. Dear oh dear. He’s a lot like Greta, mumbling by his keyboard saying: I could be playing World of Warcraft but I have to teach the adults basic political philosophy!

  79. The BigBlueCat

    Ayn Rand’s politics seeks to eradicate the control of an individual’s values by others altogether.

    This is a quote from Michael C Miller, an Objectivist for 50 years. Ayn Rand was less interested in left or right, but distinctively interested in Captialism and the role of Government

    to be used in defense against the initiation of physical force by an individual or group to interfere with their voluntary interactions with others. … Objectivism’s aim is to guarantee the autonomy of every individual who reciprocally grants a right to the same to all others and who never violates that right.

    (Another Miller quote).

    Our resident troll is not really a follower of Ayn Rayn – he is a follower of Peter Beattie. If he was a follower of Ayn Rand, he should be critical of Beattie’s intervention over the issue of Folau playing for Tonga. But he’s not. He spouts irrelevant crap like:

    People who think businesses can’t fire people are also left wing.

    People who engage in leftist identity politics are also leftists.

    Exit question: who gives a shit?

    Side note: when you behave the way Folau has behaved then you SHOULD have trouble finding employment again. That’s a feature, not a bug

    The whole point of my original post was that you leftards are so totally politically illiterate that you don’t know which side you’re actually on. This is why conservatives are the stupidest leftists.

    There are genuine and proud racists at the Cat and C.L. has no problem with them.
    This is just another example of shameless hypocrisy and self contradiction.

    Bottom line, there’s nothing these unprincipled leftists, like CL, won’t say, to help advance whatever random cause of the moment they have.

    And let’s not forget the personal abuse … and childish “You are. No you are” responses.

    No-one disputes the right of businesses to fire people – but we do recognise the laws of Australia to say there are reasons that cannot be used to justify a sacking (eg Fair Work Australia Act). Clearly, the resident troll has never been fired for reasons he (or the law) considers unjust …

    If the resident troll was truly an Objectivist, he should be highly critical of Peter Beattie’s attempts to constrain Folau playing for another (foreign) team. It’s called restraint of trade – or at least an attempt at restraining the voluntary interactions of others (restrictive covenant?). But the resident troll has instead used the identity politics he claims to despise to justify his position (a technique not that foreign to Ayn Rand I might add).

    If the resident troll was truly sn Objectivist, he is not interested in left versus right, but in individual freedom. He should be supporting Tonga and Folau’s agreement for Folau to play for the Tongan team, and he should be highly critical of Beattie’s intervention. It’s not about left v right – it’s about freedom to engage in agreements that Beattie is attempting to prevent. But the resident troll prefers to play an identity card – “when you behave the way Folau has behaved then you SHOULD have trouble finding employment again. That’s a feature, not a bug”. How has Folau behaved? Why should he have trouble finding employment again? Is it because of his deeply-held religious convictions and the expression of such?

    So who should give a shit? The resident troll should, but he doesn’t. We can only conclude that he is indeed a sock puppet – a collectivist of the highest order, a supporter of Peter Beattie (ex Labor premier of Queensland, ex ALP candidate for a federal seat, and still a significant member of the ALP). So while criticising others for being “leftists”, “socialists”, “morons”, “ignorant”, “stupid”, “ranting”, etc we see the resident troll is like the emperor with no clothes. He prefers abuse to engaging in discussion. He is like a schoolyard bully – a child who doesn’t get his way, and when he doesn’t, stamps his feet and uses abusive language. (I might add, my instruction to him to FUCK OFF is a directive, not an abuse of any of his persoanl traits – people should tell schoolyard bullies to FUCK OFF).

    He is not a true follower of Objectivism or Ayn Rand despite his claims of being just that. If he was, he wouldn’t be here defending Peter Beattie, but rather defending the right of Tonga and Folau to enter into a voluntary agreement.

    Cue the troll ….

  80. Iampeter

    BigBlue twit, you really are a specimen of stupidity and dishonesty. And that’s saying something at the Cat!
    You came into this thread just telling me to shut up.
    When your position is literally “shut up, he explained” you aren’t in a position to then direct any of your criticisms at me. Take it up with yourself and the other clueless nutters here.

    He’s a lot like Greta, mumbling by his keyboard saying: I could be playing World of Warcraft but I have to teach the adults basic political philosophy!

    Bit of unintentional insight into your dweeb existence there, dover. Whoops!

  81. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Peter

    What time is computer lock down in the mental facility you reside?

  82. The BigBlueCat

    BigBlue twit, you really are a specimen of stupidity and dishonesty. And that’s saying something at the Cat!
    You came into this thread just telling me to shut up.
    When your position is literally “shut up, he explained” you aren’t in a position to then direct any of your criticisms at me. Take it up with yourself and the other clueless nutters here.

    And yet you didn’t shut up, did you? And I did take it up with the rest of the Cat – didn’t you notice that my post wasn’t directed at you, but was about you? I also note you do not refute my position that you are the resident troll – you can wear that label as a badge of honour if you like.

    Yet I am one here providing coherent reasoning and honest appraisal yet you are the one who’s main comeback is “stupidity and dishonesty”. I put it to you that you are merely reflecting your own position as stupid and dishonest. There are many here who will agree with me.

    I also note that you also don’t refute my claim that you are a Peter Beattie supporter – perhaps you are Peter Beattie! Or is your blind contempt for Folau’s expressions of his deeply-held religious convictions blinding you to the unjustifiable boycott Beattie is attempting. My, how libertarian of you.

    The issue everyone has with you, Iampeter, is that like the leftist elites, you strut around with self-declared superior political insight, yet you share none of it, and you certainly don’t use it to explain your postings. Much like the leftist elites you claim to despise, you act just like them. You are the ultimate collectivist – there is you (in your mind true and correct) while there is everyone else (who must be wrong because they are not you). But you are very short in explaining, in political terms, why you think people are wrong. You just come out and tell them they are and then abuse them (another leftist tactic).

    If you are to continue to post on the Cat, and you do not provide sound political reasoning for your posts then we should treat you as merely posturing. I couldn’t care less if others don’t do what should be expected of you – you’re the one claiming to be the superior political thinker.

    Much like your apparent mental state, politics lies on a spectrum – the Cat is a self-declared “centre-right and libertarian” blog. Yet you seem to require compliance with your version of Objectivism (and politics). You don’t belong here – you are neither centre-right nor libertarian. You’re a leftist! As is amply demonstrated by your alignment to certain leftist causes de jour (eg pro-choice, anti-religion, et al).

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