Tuesday Forum: October 8, 2019

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  1. Perfidious Albino

    Favour to ask Cats – what’s the linky to the website with the socialists / helicopters / Pinochet T-shirt’s again? I was sure I saw it posted here in the last week or so, but can’t for the life of me find it again… thanks!

  2. Chris

    Supaglue should become a controlled substance, like fertiliser and put behind the counter at the hardware store.

    Spraycans, markers… my offspring was refused sale of Japanese art markers used for drawing Manga, because a few months under 18. West Australian police state bullshit.

  3. Arky

    Why can’t we go whaling on the moon?

    ..
    Fuck those lunar cetaceans.

  4. Eyrie

    “Idiots on ABC Radio currently discussing a treaty needed for the Moon. They want it locked up like Antarctica. Seriously, why can’t we mine the Moon? There aren’t even penguins there.”

    If we can’t mine Antarctica what use is it? Pull out our bludging researchers and let the Chinese at it.
    Yes to polar bears in Antarctica. Can we put them in spacesuits and also send them to the Moon?

  5. Spraycans, markers… my offspring was refused sale of Japanese art markers used for drawing Manga, because a few months under 18. West Australian police state bullshit.

    What a country.

    How’s the vibrancy?

  6. Yes to polar bears in Antarctica.

    If environmentalists intervene with artificial earthworks on Raine Island to preserve da turtles, why can they complain about this?

  7. Rex Mango

    Malcolm Knox has written piece in SMH with ten inane observations about Rugby World Cup. Typically number ten is that the climate will have the final say, but there’ s also this crack about migration. He’s saying that ‘rainbow nations’ suck in other countries best players, therefore everyone wins, except of course those countries donating. Do also luv the idea of the multicultural Wallabies, who are an exotic mix of private school graduates and islanders:

    Migration enriches all
    A question doing the rounds at the Rugby World Cup has been, what if all those Pacific Island-heritage players for Australia, New Zealand and England could play for their ‘home’ countries? Then we might see a completely different World Cup. But what this overlooks is that these footballers are now playing for their home countries.

    To align nation with race, to differentiate between ‘true’ Australians or Englishmen and ‘imports’ is to take the world back to dark and dangerous times and, speaking of stupid, ideologies that are proven failures. Look at the top performers in this World Cup, all rainbow nations. It’s no accident why multicultural outfits perform better.

    https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/bigger-poorer-dumber-and-the-useless-pursuit-of-rugby-perfection-20191011-p52zs1.html

  8. calli

    Hes certainly emitting a smug cloud in that picture calli.

    The miasmic flatulence of Stupid.

  9. Des Deskperson

    Here’s an interesting article about Julie Bishop’s ‘honorarium’ as ANU Chancellor:

    https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/6432281/julie-bishop-to-get-sweet-anu-pay-packet/

    which was recently upped to $75,000 p.a. It had been $35,000 p.a. since 2012. It’s only fair to note that the sum was increased last years, so Gareth Evans also got $75,000 in his last year as Chancellor.

    The Chancellor job is part time and unpaid but the occupant is given “a modest honorarium … in recognition of the responsibilities and time involved in the discharge of the office”. The Chancellor
    “plays a key role in official functions at the University, including at graduation ceremonies”.

    Graduation ceremonies?? Well, someone has to hand out the diplomas. I’d be surprised if the job involved the equivalent of two month full time work a year – $420,000 p.a. at that rate if it were full time – but its value in terms of prestige, networking and being the centre of antiquated, forelock-tugging ceremonies is, as they say, priceless.

    Parliamentary pensions are calculated on the basis of the salaries of the various offices that the MP has held. Bishop’s pension would almost certainly be around $250,000 p.a.

  10. Arky

    As polar bears mainly eat seals, and seal mainly eat penguins, what you are proposing would lead to an explosion in the penguin population, and an Antarctic covered in even more smelly, fishy penguin diarrhea.

  11. thefrollickingmole

    Perfidious Albino

    A number of Commies were helicoptered out to sea and pushed out, dead or alive, after Pinochet took power.

    Its a fun meme.

  12. Arky

    No, what you want is an annual penguin hunt.

  13. zyconoclast

    Who know 5 year olds can read IQ/bell curve charts.

    Racial stereotypes start as young as FIVE: Kids believe white men look ‘smarter’ than women or black men, survey finds
    -Researchers showed children photographs of eight pairs of adults, including four white men and women, and four black men and women
    -They were told that one of the individuals was ‘really smart’ and asked to guess which on was intelligent
    -Children, regardless of race, most often picked white men over white women and rarely applied ‘brilliance’ to black men

  14. Arky

    Or to arm seals with rocket launchers.

  15. Eyrie

    When I look at a less than full Moon, in the dark area I want to see the lights of human settlements, transport ways and mines. The signature of people working hard for a better future for themselves, their lunar children and the whole human race. And loving and laughing, making music, art and science. Oh the things we can do and see and love.
    h/t Dan Simmons and the late, great Poul Anderson

  16. Arky

    Seals are our friends.
    Penguins, whales and those smug dolphin bastards are our sworn enemies.
    Polar bears belong under playboy bunnies in a centrefold.

  17. Ireland likely to get through to the top 8 of the RWC.

    I’d love a Wales/Ireland final, but IIRC that isn’t actually possible.

    Plus Ireland has to beat the ABs before the final.

  18. MatrixTransform

    overhearing a conversation the missus is having on the phone right now explaining the difficulties of getting the pronouns right with the TransX at her skool.

    its a mine field.

    she’s trying not to step on a penguin

  19. Rex Mango

    All penguin predators in Antarctica come from the sea, so they are not scared of land animals and easy to walk up to. There is something like 12 million of them down there. It would be a penguin fest for the polar bears.

  20. Entropy

    They were told that one of the individuals was ‘really smart’ and asked to guess which on was intelligent
    -Children, regardless of race, most often picked white men over white women and rarely applied ‘brilliance’ to black men

    How were they dressed? These types of surveys aim at a predetermined outcome.

  21. Rex Mango

    Try patting a seal, they get aggressive and bite.

  22. MatrixTransform

    How were they dressed

    White coats and clipboards obviously

  23. Rex Mango

    Siberian Tiger is endangered and it might be good idea to give them a chance in the Antarctic as well.

  24. Arky

    It would be a penguin fest for the polar bears.

    ..
    I have four, no five words for you: Killer whales on snow mobiles.

  25. Dr Faustus

    Organ transplants in China, where foreigners travel to get cheap vital organs harvested from healthy dissenters.

    The demand for liver transplants has grown in line with the growth of China’s middle class wealth. It appears that with increasing affluence, punters who use Chinese traditional medicine are now working on the basis that if one dose of expensive, vile-tasting twig, herb and seahorse soup is good for you, three, four or five doses is going to be much better.

    Except many of the ingredients are toxic and destroy liver function.

  26. Rex Mango

    Do like the Pinochet is My Co-Pilot T-shirt and that is great pic of him.

  27. SpongeBob is anthromorphic porifera who defies the laws of physics and lives in a society dominated by green fish and where blue whales can be the daughters of red crabs. He is also dating an American red squirrel. His best friend is a differently abled pink starfish.

    Dr Marting Luther King would be proud.

  28. zyconoclast

    Could she rent it out for accommodation?
    It seems spacious enough.

    Woman, 24, caught with meth inside her [email protected] who said she didn’t know where the drugs came from now admits they are hers as she is jailed for four months
    -Ashley Beth Rolland, 24, has admitted to possession of meth found in [email protected]
    -She was sentenced to four months at Ouachita Parish Correctional Center
    -She was questioned by police on July 31 after boyfriend accused her of stealing
    -In a subsequent interview with the West Monroe Police Department, Rolland admitted to the theft and consented to being searched
    -During the search a wad of cash amounting to $6233, was found in her [email protected]
    -At the center of the wad officer also found close to a gram of methamphetamine
    -Rolland initially ‘denied ownership’ of the meth, but later confessed it was hers

  29. Perfidious Albino

    Thanks TFM, the background I’m across, but I was sure there’s a Cat who does a nice line in t-shirts with the meme, or at least posted a link to a site that does. Anyway, I’ll keep looking also. Cheers

  30. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I$I$ ‘Beatle’ says he offers ‘my sincere apology’ to the family of murdered aid worker David Haines ahead of his trial in the US where he faces the death penalty

    El Shafee Elsheikh, 31 , offered apology in final interview with ITV
    He was extracted from Syria along with Alexanda Kotey, 35
    Prized inmates have been labelled the ‘worst of the worst’ by Donald Trump
    Set to face trial in Virginia as alleged conspirators in murders of hostages
    London-born Kotey and Elsheikh, born in Soodan, were part of I$I$ ‘kill squad’

    Daily Mail. Does the State of Virginia still use the electric chair?

  31. Rex Mango
    #3181725, posted on October 11, 2019 at 7:41 pm

    Siberian Tiger is endangered and it might be good idea to give them a chance in the Antarctic as well.

    I thought they needed forests.

    Just let the Russians look after the poley bears. They can handle brown bears.

  32. Rex Mango

    Have been told no Killer Whale has ever killed a human in the wild. Famous stories of them protecting whalers from sharks when they fell in the drink and they are known for killing their trainers when in captivity, but in Killer Whale world it is taboo on par with same sex relationships, to chomp a swimmer when in open water.

  33. Rex Mango

    Frank, did Pete Singer send you that clip?

  34. Geriatric Mayfly

    MSNBC panel discusses the death penalty for treasonous Trump. Has not, to my knowledge, filtered down to the ABC as yet.

  35. zyconoclast

    Frydenberg urges infrastructure wish list from states to boost economy

    The states and territories have been urged by Treasurer Josh Frydenberg to come up with an infrastructure wish list as soon as possible as governments look to bring forward projects that could deliver a much-needed boost to the economy.

    After a meeting of the nation’s treasurers on Friday, Mr Frydenberg said only Queensland had so far put forward projects from the federal government’s $100 billion decade-long infrastructure program that could be fast-tracked.

    All governments have been encouraged by the Reserve Bank to bring forward infrastructure projects in a bid to drive down the national unemployment rate and push up wages. The RBA has noted that with interest rates at record lows, there may not be a better time for governments to invest in long-lived infrastructure.

  36. mh

    Could she rent it out for accommodation?
    It seems spacious enough.

    If those walls could talk.

  37. Infidel Tiger

    Ireland likely to get through to the top 8 of the RWC.

    I’d love a Wales/Ireland final, but IIRC that isn’t actually possible.

    Plus Ireland has to beat the ABs before the final.

    No one who actually likes rugby wants that.

    The two best results for rugby purists are either Japan or England. Both teams play rugby as it should be.

  38. Rex Mango

    Killer Whale Code:

    1. Don’t kill humans

    2. Don’t do tricks

  39. Geriatric Mayfly
    #3181744, posted on October 11, 2019 at 7:58 pm

    MSNBC panel discusses the death penalty for treasonous Trump. Has not, to my knowledge, filtered down to the ABC as yet.

    No, they’re totally not totalitarians, demanding the murder of their opponents.

    He should seriously play this over and over again come election time.

    “My opponents are crazy and absolute trash – the only sane option is to vote for me and the GOP in your State, district and county”.

  40. Geriatric Mayfly

    -During the search a wad of cash amounting to $6233, was found in her [email protected]
    With all that yeast it could have been $12466 in very short order.

  41. Nick

    An Ethiopian dude, not scoldilocks, has won the Nobel Peace Prize. Whew.

  42. No one who actually likes rugby wants that.

    Explain yourself young man.

  43. Rex Mango

    Dream result for the Rugby World Cup is the Sydney Convicts taking the title.

  44. RobK

    those lunar cetaceans
    As sometimes seen in the rear window of a school bus.

  45. Rex Mango

    No international team can pack down a scrum quite like the Sydney Convicts.

  46. Delcon

    zyconoclast
    #3181745, posted on October 11, 2019 at 7:59 pm

    Frydenberg urges infrastructure wish list from states to boost economy

    ….Whereby our treasurer out himself as a Keynesian.

  47. Rex Mango

    Have you seen how low they can get?

  48. Old Lefty

    Imagine if Eric Herbert were a Catholic priest protesting against baby-butchering, granny-killing ornthe GP show trial. Five years in solitary?

    And for Lizzie @1237 with her mention of the benefits of Eno:

    If the Greek philosopher Zeno
    Had taken a glass of Eno
    He wouldn’t have had the notion
    That there’s no such thing as motion.

  49. Muddy

    Perfidious Albino
    #3181737, posted on October 11, 2019 at 7:52 pm

    a Cat who does a nice line in t-shirts

    Mr. Rusty.

  50. zyconoclast

    The encounters with a teenage girl that have left this ‘shy’ student facing jail – this is what he told the court, and what his victim said
    ‘It was quite a while – three to five seconds. He smirked at me, he didn’t stop he just touched me and walked off and I broke down crying in the street – it was quite traumatic’

    An ‘awkward’ university undergraduate facing jail as a convicted s3x offender after he touched a would-be Oxbridge student on the arm and waist in the street.

    Jamie Griffiths, 19, searched for ”how to make a friend” on the internet then came into contact with the girl, then 17, in two encounters as she walked to and from school.

    The victim, who was due to sit her mock exams, burst into tears during the second encounter and went to police – with her mother saying Griffiths would have touched her breast had she not moved away from him.

    She later described how her school work had suffered, she was unable to sit her mock exams and said the unwanted touching had hindered her application process to Oxford University.

    At Manchester magistrates court, Durham University student Griffiths – who lives with his parents in Knutsford – was convicted of two charges of s3xual assault.

    He denied the charges claiming he was a ‘shy, anxious and awkward’ teenager who had clumsily approached the girl in an attempt ‘to make a friend but the words didn’t come out’.

    He will be sentenced later this month and also faced being ordered to sign the S3x offender Register.

    The offence carries a maximum sentence of ten years jail if dealt with at a crown court.

    The incidents occurred between October and November last year whilst the pair were studying for A levels at secondary school.

    The girl, now 18, said she had been walking home from an English lesson when she encountered Griffiths on a railway bridge.

    This is what the girl told the court

    She told the hearing: ”I was just set on getting home and revising for my mock exams but as I was coming over the bridge I saw him facing a hedge and I thought it was really weird. He wasn’t doing anything he was just facing the hedge, staring at it.

    “As I walked towards him, I was watching him and he suddenly swung round so he was facing me.

    ”I remember it happening fast. As soon as he moved I moved and I said: ‘stop’ and he touched me on my arm. I sort of jolted out of the way and I went into the road to avoid him and he very quickly walked away.

    “I think it would have been on my breast had I not moved. When it first happened I didn’t think much of it, didn’t click in my head, I just thought that was really weird. Why did he touch me?

    “I forgot about it for a while because I had my exams. I just thought it was weird behaviour.”

    She said she encountered Griffiths again on November 7 at lunchtime as she was on her way to school to sit a timed English essay having been revising at home.

    She added: ”I was quite far up the road when I noticed him. He is someone who lives in my area, someone I have seen before. I thought I recognised him but I didn’t think it was the person from the first incident at the time.

    ”It was only when he moved to touch me and looked me in the eyes that I realised it was the same person. The pavement was quite wide but he suddenly moved to walk in front of me, looked me straight in the eye and touches me on my side and walked off.

    ”It was quite a while – three to five seconds. He smirked at me, he didn’t stop he just touched me and walked off and I broke down crying in the street – it was quite traumatic.

    “I had reported the previous incident to the police to days before hand as it had been going around that other incidents had occurred and I thought I could give more evidence, and then it happened again. It came up on a local Facebook group chat.

    “I broke down in tears straight away and rang my mum. I attempted to follow him initially and get a picture, but I wasn’t quick enough.

    “I rang my mum she came and picked me up. We went straight to the house and then went straight to the police station and reported the incident.

    ”I was trying to revise for these exams and I couldn’t focus at all. Every time I started working I would cry because I would think about it. I felt very unsafe even in my own home I couldn’t walk to school for a couple of weeks, I wouldn’t leave the house myself even to go into town in Knutsford.

    “I didn’t sit my mock exams so I didn’t get that practice, I struggled for a couple of months afterwards, I was applying for Oxford at the time and I found going to Oxford a stressful thing.

    “Even today walking down the street it just makes everything a little bit scarier. If there is a guy walking towards me by himself I start to panic. It is just part of everyday life.

    “It was more shocking that someone thought they had the right to touch me as I walked down the street.”

    This is his version of events

    Griffiths, who had been volunteering at a Barnado’s charity shop in between lessons, told the hearing: “I had seen her in the school and I turned around and I went to touch her arm to start a conversation and she just walked off. My intention was to make a friend. All my friends had left. I was lonely I just wanted to speak to someone.

    “She was walking towards me and I recognised her. I didn’t say anything but I really wanted to say something – the words just didn’t come out. I touched her but I believed that it was the arm I was touching.

    ”I smiled at her I was just trying to be friendly. I tried to get her attention and she ignored me. Touching someone’s arm to get their attention I would have thought was normal. I was looking for a friend.”

    Griffiths, who has since signed up to Facebook and Instagram in the hope of making new friends, added: ”I would say I’m very anxious and I don’t naturally make friends although really I try to. When I looked up: ‘trying to meet new people’ and ‘make new friends’ one of the things I read was to start off with a joke.

    “I have always been a very anxious person, my friends all seem to really know what to do and I never really asked of them how they did it.

    I have always been more stay at home with my parents and loneliness is all consuming. I really needed someone to talk to at the time and my intention was to make a friend – but I clearly didn’t go about it the right way and I am sorry for the misunderstanding.

    ”I tried to speak to her but I just couldn’t. My anxiety kicks in and it makes it impossible to say anything. She just so happened to be walking home from school those times and I have not targeted her. I would hate to make someone feel uncomfortable of scared I would absolutely hate that. Maybe it is time to try to make friends another way.”

    What his defence said
    His lawyer Claire Aldridge told JPs: ”She did say: ‘I think it would have been on my breast had I not moved’ but what she thinks might have happened isn’t the issue.

    ”Are you dealing with somebody lying in wait in broad day light or are you dealing with an anxious and awkward young man, someone who struggles to make friends by his own admission? He is a particularly shy, anxious young man who spends most of his time studying with his parents.”

    What the prosecution said
    But prosecutor Victoria Norman said: “The complainant was adamant about what she had suffered and was very frank and honest with this court. He intended to touch her breast area and was waiting for her.

    “What rational person looks up: ‘how to make a friend’? Even if the defendant is advancing he was just seeking to make a friend he waits in two areas that are isolated on her route home, he touches her.

    “An attempt to make a friendship with anyone surely starts with a hello or a wave.”

    What the magistrates told him

    Convicting Griffiths, magistrates told him: “The complainant’s evidence was very clear, logical and without embellishment. We can think of no motivation for you to touch the victim other than s3xual.

    “Had she not taken evasive action the assault was likely to have been even more serious. The first assault can be recognised as opportunistic however there is more evidence of premeditation in the second.”

  51. Roger

    The ABC appears to be losing interest in XR, relegating today’s report on their antics in Brisbane from Monday’s headline story to towards the end of tonight’s bulletin.

    Only a tidal wave of complaints could have precipitated such an about face.

    It would seem XR has managed to piss off even the Friends of the ABC.

    What a drag [h/t Alinsky] .

  52. An ‘awkward’ university undergraduate facing jail as a convicted s3x offender after he touched a would-be Oxbridge student on the arm and waist in the street.

    Fucking ridiculous.

    Jamie Griffiths, 19, searched for ”how to make a friend” on the internet then came into contact with the girl, then 17, in two encounters as she walked to and from school.

    If the prosecution agree with the submission, how can they claim he had any sexual intent?

    “An attempt to make a friendship with anyone surely starts with a hello or a wave.”

    Actually, I don’t remember waving at people who became my friends when I met them for the first time. Maybe hello was said, maybe we said “my name is”…

    What a ridiculous assertion to convict someone on.

  53. Rex Mango

    Sydney Convicts also have a terrific line out, it’s really hard to tell just what is holding those players up for so long.

  54. Geriatric Mayfly

    Convicting Griffiths, magistrates told him: “The complainant’s evidence was very clear, logical and without embellishment. We can think of no motivation for you to touch the victim other than s3xual.

    Where are those three old prudes Calli puts up occasionally. Where else? Sitting on the Bench in Manchester.

  55. Top Ender

    Speaking of seals and stuff….

    We got a question about walruses wrong last night at the pub trivia.

    It was True or False.

    “Walruses can weigh up to 4.5 tonnes.” We said False.

    The real question is – how does anyone know? They weighed one? Shot one and cut it up and weighed the bits? We figured a car can weigh about 1.5 tonnes so no way.

  56. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘An ‘awkward’ university undergraduate facing jail as a convicted s3x offender after he touched a would-be Oxbridge student on the arm and waist in the street.’

    Right.

    Hate speech ‘crimes’, Facebook police, facial recognition tech over every inch which they can’t or won’t use properly, rains all Ashes and most of the World Cup and licences for TVs.

    And now this. I don’t care about Brexit any more. Fuck England and every single person in it, if that’s what the joint’s come to.

    The Poms don’t need to worry about the Second Coming of Jaysus. They need to worry that Richard I, Edward I and Henry V decide they’ve had a gutful, come back, flay several hundred thousand people alive and hang their skins as tapestries on the interior walls of Westminster as a warning to the future – if there is one.

  57. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Greta Thunberg misses out on Nobel Peace Prize as the award is given to Ethiopia’s prime minister

    Abiy Ahmed Ali’s efforts towards peace and international cooperation credited
    Ethiopia and Eritrea, longtime foes, restored relations in July 2018
    Peace prize worth £732,500 will be presented in Oslo on December 10

    Daily Mail. Bad luck, Pol Tot.

  58. Bruce of Newcastle

    how does anyone know?

    Fairly easy to work out the volume of a walrus from footage. If you know how long, wide and thick it is you can easily get a volume. Then weigh a steak, divide the weght by the steak’s volume and multiply the walrus volume by that approximate density.

    Or you could ask a carpenter.

  59. Knuckle Dragger

    The English courts were looked up to across the globe as the epitome of judicial knowledge and process.

    Now they’re convicting – RECORDING A CONVICTION – for first time offenders on the strength of feelz about potential future acts.

    I was also going to say the English should be banned from immigration here lest the infections spreads, but – well, y’know.

  60. Arky

    An Mx5 is 1.5 tonnes.
    A walrus would be three of those, easy.
    ..


  61. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Australia to send peacekeepers to Syria

    Rosie Lewis
    SUVA, FIJI
    @rosieslewis
    30 minutes ago October 11, 2019
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    Australia and Fiji will deploy a peacekeeping mission to Syria as soon as next week, as part of the countries’ long-running commitment to peace in the Middle East.

    The move comes just days after the US pulled out of the country’s north and Turkey launched a military offensive that is now into its third day.

    Scott Morrison revealed the deployment in the locker room at the Prime Minister’s XIII rugby league match in Suva, Fiji, while talking to the Australian men’s players. The deployment is not related to current events in northern Syria.

    “I just met some of the (Australian Defence Force) boys upstairs who are going to be deploying with the Fijians over in Syria. And they’re going to be going there next week. Our Australians are going over there, training them, supporting them,” the Prime Minister said.

    A Defence spokeswoman said the co-deployment involving Australia and Fiji would begin as soon as the UN processes and approvals were finalised.

    The two countries have been working on a co-deployment as part of the UN Disengagement Observer Force mission, which was established in 1974 to maintain the ceasefire between Israel and Syria. Australia has been there in different peacekeeping missions since 1956.

    “This is part of both countries longstanding commitment to UN peace keeping operations in the Middle East,” the Defence spokeswoman said.

    The Weekend Australian understands the ADF personnel will be deployed to the disputed territory of Golan Heights, on the border of Syria and Israel. Australian troops will be there at the request of the UN and with the approval of Israel and Syria.

    Breaking, from the Oz.

  62. There is actually no evidence that Griffiths desired anything sexual.

    The prosecution seemingly agreed he searched “how to make friends”, not “how to grab boobs”.

    He and his parents are mad if they don’t appeal.

    There is no way a real judge would put someone away for sexual assault for touching an arm and on the waist.

    Let alone convict them. At most it ought to be a restraining order and common assault, the second of which is really unnecessary.

    The paper is also “honestly” embellishing the age difference, he was 18 and she was 17.

    She later described how her school work had suffered, she was unable to sit her mock exams and said the unwanted touching had hindered her application process to Oxford University.

    Yeah ok. Now I’m really sceptical.

    The incidents occurred between October and November last year whilst the pair were studying for A levels at secondary school.

    Oh you mean during October and November last year? Great journalist level grammar right there.

    “I had seen her in the school and I turned around and I went to touch her arm to start a conversation and she just walked off. My intention was to make a friend. All my friends had left. I was lonely I just wanted to speak to someone.

    They went to school together? (…and how is this sexual assault?)

    You don’t get that impression reading the article without reading it very carefully.

    “I forgot about it for a while because I had my exams. I just thought it was weird behaviour.”

    “I had reported the previous incident to the police to days before hand as it had been going around that other incidents had occurred and I thought I could give more evidence, and then it happened again. It came up on a local Facebook group chat.

    This seems convenient and evidence free.

  63. Correct knuckles.

    That lad was convicted of a future crime, not even an attempt.

    England is cucked, coked and cooked.

  64. Dream result for the Rugby World Cup is the Sydney Convicts taking the title.

    The dream is the Cherry Blossoms win the title.

  65. Rex Mango

    Does an Elephant Seal weigh more than a Walrus and if not, then shouldn’t the Walrus be the true Beachmaster? And if they never meet each other, then here is another perfect chance to arrange the interaction.

  66. Arky

    Disgusting seeing a beautiful Ford Cortina assaulted by a filthy oceanic mammal in the clip above.
    I would kill every sea mammal on the planet to save one Cortina.

  67. So I have learnt today that touching a woman on the arm is sexual assault if it makes her feel uncomfortable.

    Now I know why Keanu Reeves does the hover hands thing.

  68. Arky

    So I have learnt today that touching a woman on the arm is sexual assault if it makes her feel uncomfortable.

    Now I know why Keanu Reeves does the hover hands thing.

    ..
    At the sight of a female of the species young men are now trained to immediately avert their gaze, do jazz hands and run away.

  69. Knuckle Dragger

    England used to be world leaders in getting things done. You don’t conquer a quarter of the Earth’s surface and 80% of its oceans, and maintain it for centuries by thinking about future feelings.

    Now look at it. A complete shitfest from the Orkneys to Cornwall and well past any possible redemption point.

    Of course, a comparison with Bradman is apt.

    Globally known and rightly recognised for being the best, far ahead of anyone else. In the long-distant past.

    But before he thankfully departed this Earth, he had for decades been widely (and correctly) regarded as a whiny, self-centred, religion-discriminating, pain in the arse pious self-promoting hypocritical midget who was a shadow of his former self, and who steadfastly refused any cricketer for almost 50 years to earn a dollar from their profession while he was notorious for arranging/extorting lucrative payments for himself at the expense of every County association in England as well as media organisations around the world, and his teammates could go fuck themselves.

    The Australian cricket world all put on black suits and cluck-clucked after he died, but privately everyone was glad to see the back of him.

    England might as well get it over with and rename itself New Belgium. The world will be a better place.

  70. Rex Mango

    I drove 4.1lt Cortina 4 speed manual for a week once, great car.

  71. Arky

    Even more worserer than walruses, dickheads have now got their hands on almost every last one of the old mark 3 Cortinas, flared out their wheel wells and stuck some god awful crate V8 into the poor beasts.
    Death is the only appropriate punishment to these bastards.

  72. At the sight of a female of the species young men are now trained to immediately avert their gaze, do jazz hands and run away.

    Because shaking hands or similar is treated the same as a violent sexual assault.

  73. Rex Mango

    Animals for Antarctica Project (AAPT), donate now to help the following guys make the trip of lifetime & repopulate a frozen wasteland: Polar Bear, Siberian Tiger, Walrus, Elephant Seal, Snow Leopard & perhaps Yaks

  74. Knuckle Dragger

    One of my first beasts was Gina Cortina, a white 1971 4 door, 4 on the tree.

    By Christ I gave it some stick. Never missed a beat.

  75. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I drove 4.1lt Cortina 4 speed manual for a week once, great car.

    Perth coppers had an unmarked 4.1 Liter Cortina back in the day that used to rake in all the drag racing hoons…

  76. Knuckle Dragger

    Killer whales are the only (I think) seagoing mammals that hunt in packs.

    Much like their land-based compatriots, women.

  77. Rex Mango

    ABC very excited about this film Hustlers, where strippers drug and dope their paying clients to then rob them. If it was a film about men behaving in such a manner they would be horrified.

  78. Mater

    The ABC appears to be losing interest in XR, relegating today’s report on their antics in Brisbane from Monday’s headline story to towards the end of tonight’s bulletin.

    Only a tidal wave of complaints could have precipitated such an about face.

    They know the protests are having the opposite effect on the public than was intended.
    They are protecting XR from their own stupidity and, in the process, protecting their own ideology. Gauging FB, I’m surprised that it’s taken them four days to assess the damage that’s being done to ‘the cause’.
    It’s not about complaints, they don’t give a shit. It’s pure self interest.

  79. Rex Mango

    Frank, elephants would soon adapt, like pigs and cats going feral and they would revert to their ancestor, so yes, Elephants on the boat to Antarctica too.

  80. Bruce of Newcastle

    When I look at a less than full Moon, in the dark area I want to see the lights of human settlements, transport ways and mines.

    Here’s how to make iron and oxygen on the moon.

    1. Get some moon dirt and a big mirror and some hydrogen.
    2. Fry the dirt with the hydrogen using the mirror. (To about 1,200°C)
    3. Cool the dirt in the shade then run it over a magnetic separator. That gives you iron powder.
    4. Take the exit gas from (2.), cool it too and condense the water. Return any unreacted hydrogen.
    5. Put the water in an electrolytic cell and split it to hydrogen and oxygen. (Use solar cells or nukes for the electricity.)
    6. Send the hydrogen to (2.) and breathe the oxygen.

    The hydrogen/water cycle is catalytic. You would need to make up for losses only.

    (TM) Bruce of Newcastle.

    (Anyone who wants to try it have a chat to NASA. Their MoonROx Challenge expired without a winner. They might be keen to stump up some dosh for a project.)

  81. Knuckle Dragger

    Bloody hell. Speaking of greats;

    Virat Kohli just declared India’s first Second Test (v Saffies) innings closed at 5/601.

    He was on 254 not out at the time.

  82. Rex

    Some Russians are trying to bring them back. It’s a crazy scheme to decrease the albedo of the earth and mitigate any global warming without carbon taxes and the like.

  83. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    ”It was quite a while – three to five seconds. He smirked at me, he didn’t stop he just touched me and walked off and I broke down crying in the street – it was quite traumatic.

    peak insanity cometh

  84. Geriatric Mayfly

    Thanks Calli. No titters in their Court.

  85. Bruce of Newcastle

    I’ve finished scrolling up. Calli linked an article saying serial pest Eric Herbert got probation!

    I was driving through Sinny today so put 2GB on. Ben Fordham (I think) said stinky rebel Herbert had broken bail twice at the time of this present arrest. And he gets probation??

    What does it take for these critters to be actually punished?

    OTOH Mr Herbert would be an excellent candidate to go to Syria as a peacekeeper. Glue him to a rock between the Kurds and the Turks.

  86. calli

    OTOH Mr Herbert would be an excellent candidate to go to Syria as a peacekeeper. Glue him to a rock between the Kurds and the Turks.

    Get him used to the glue fragrance by popping him on top of the jet like his London Airport colleague.

    Dress him warmly but. We wouldn’t want to be cruel.

  87. mh

    As always, NFI

    Jane Fonda plans move to Washington – to get arrested: report

    … Fonda told the newspaper she plans to spend about four months in Washington for a series of sit-ins and rallies – after getting an OK from Netflix to take time off from her series “Grace and Frankie” with Lily Tomlin.

    She claims to have drawn inspiration from Greta Thunberg, the teenage climate-change activist from Sweden.

    “She read the read the [Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change] report and she realized that the crisis was barreling straight at us, like a train,” Fonda said, “and looked around and people weren’t behaving appropriately.

    “It so traumatized her that she stopped eating. I hadn’t realized that she stopped eating and speaking for almost a year. And that really hit me.”

    https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/jane-fonda-plans-move-to-washington-to-get-arrested-report

  88. Perfidious Albino

    That’s the one, thanks Muddy

  89. MatrixTransform

    Narrative….goooorn.

    i suppose their arses pointed east?

  90. Knuckle Dragger

    Has there been more than one spacktard climbing on top of planes?

    I saw footage of a bloke walking up the steps to board a plane this arvo. He got to the cabin door and just climbed up onto the roof.

    Apparently he was a ‘former Paralympian’.

    Can you even go in the Paralympics and then recover? Do you hand your medals back if you win?

  91. Steve trickler

    We have a glitch at Gool……

    2016. The opening 10 minutes. Watch.



    Today, he is being nuked from Goolaaaag. Unless you know him, you’ll never find him.

  92. Mother Lode

    Oh, my, they’re dumb.

    Stupid.

    They haven’t taken the covers off those bike racks.

  93. Tel

    That lad was convicted of a future crime, not even an attempt.

    I would tall any young relation of mine to stay well away from any university, you will find nothing but trouble there and waste your time and money. Either learn a trade and hang around with practical people or do plenty of online tech courses and practice making friends by chatting politely on blogs, or by getting a job and saying something over lunch.

    The weirdness at universities has gone from a little bit to ridiculous in one generation.

  94. Bruce of Newcastle

    Jane Fonda plans move to Washington – to get arrested

    She should hook up with Eric Herbert. Fortunately she’s ‘way to old to breed or the sprog would instantly superglue itself to anything righty. Especially antiaircraft guns. Which would be both embarrassing and consume a lot of costly solvent.

  95. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    She should hook up with Eric Herbert. Fortunately she’s ‘way to old to breed or the sprog would instantly superglue itself to anything righty. Especially antiaircraft guns.

    Jane Fonda?

    “Every man, woman and child in this country has a determination, like a bright flame, buoying them, strengthening their determination to go forward, to fight for freedom and independence.”

    Speaking during her tour of North Viet Nam? THAT Jane Fonda?

  96. cohenite

    Geriatric Mayfly
    #3181744, posted on October 11, 2019 at 7:58 pm

    MSNBC panel discusses the death penalty for treasonous Trump. Has not, to my knowledge, filtered down to the ABC as yet.

    They’re right, Trump is betraying the swamp; by their standards he is a traitor.

  97. RobK

    People base their views on the effect of CO2 on this:
    https://archive.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/tar/wg1/504.htm

    14.2.2 Predictability in a Chaotic System
    The climate system is particularly challenging since it is known that components in the system are inherently chaotic; there are feedbacks that could potentially switch sign, and there are central processes that affect the system in a complicated, non-linear manner. These complex, chaotic, non-linear dynamics are an inherent aspect of the climate system. As the IPCC WGI Second Assessment Report (IPCC, 1996) (hereafter SAR) has previously noted, �future unexpected, large and rapid climate system changes (as have occurred in the past) are, by their nature, difficult to predict. This implies that future climate changes may also involve ‘surprises�. In particular, these arise from the non-linear, chaotic nature of the climate system … Progress can be made by investigating non-linear processes and sub-components of the climatic system.� These thoughts are expanded upon in this report: �Reducing uncertainty in climate projections also requires a better understanding of these non-linear processes which give rise to thresholds that are present in the climate system. Observations, palaeoclimatic data, and models suggest that such thresholds exist and that transitions have occurred in the past … Comprehensive climate models in conjunction with sustained observational systems, both in situ and remote, are the only tool to decide whether the evolving climate system is approaching such thresholds. Our knowledge about the processes, and feedback mechanisms determining them, must be significantly improved in order to extract early signs of such changes from model simulations and observations.� (See Chapter 7, Section 7.7).

    14.2.2.1 Initialisation and flux adjustments

    Integrations of models over long time-spans are prone to error as small discrepancies from reality compound. Models, by definition, are reduced descriptions of reality and hence incomplete and with error. Missing pieces and small errors can pose difficulties when models of sub-systems such as the ocean and the atmosphere are coupled. As noted in Chapter 8, Section 8.4.2, at the time of the SAR most coupled models had difficulty in reproducing a stable climate with current atmospheric concentrations of greenhouse gases, and therefore non-physical �flux adjustment terms� were added. In the past few years significant progress has been achieved, but difficulties posed by the problem of flux adjustment, while reduced, remain problematic and continued investigations are needed to reach the objective of avoiding dependence on flux adjustment (see Chapter 8, Section 8.4.2; see also Section 8.5.1.1).

    Another important (and related) challenge is the initialisation of the models so that the entire system is in balance, i.e., in statistical equilibrium with respect to the fluxes of heat, water, and momentum between the various components of the system. The problem of determining appropriate initial conditions in which fluxes are dynamically and thermodynamically balanced throughout a coupled stiff system, such as the ocean-atmosphere system, is particularly difficult because of the wide range of adjustment times ranging from days to thousands of years. This can lead to a �climate drift�, making interpretation of transient climate calculations difficult (see Chapter 8, Section 8.4.1).

    The initialisation of coupled models is important because it produces the climate base state or �starting point� for climate change experiments. Climate model initialisation continues to be an area of active research and refinement of techniques (see Chapter 8, Section 8.4). Most groups use long integrations of the sub-component models to provide a dynamically and thermodynamically balanced initial state for the coupled model integration. However, there are at least as many different methods used to initialise coupled models as there are modelling groups. See Stouffer and Dixon (1998) for a more complete discussion of the various issues and methods used to initialise coupled models.

    Since the SAR, improvements in developing better initialisation techniques for coupled models have been realised. For instance, starting with observed oceanic conditions has yielded improved simulations with reduced climate drift (Gordon et al., 1999). Earlier attempts with this technique usually resulted in relatively large trends in the surface variables (Meehl and Washington, 1995; Washington and Meehl, 1996). Successfully starting long coupled integrations from observations is important for a number of reasons: it simplifies the initialisation procedure, saves time and effort, and reduces the overhead for starting new coupled model integrations.

    Such progress is important, but again further work is needed. We simply do not fully understand the causes of climate drift in coupled models (see Chapter 8, Section 8.4.2).

  98. Done Deal

    While the ex-stink-sham revolution ignores what geegee ping is getting up to you know they are nothing but the usual Marxist layabouts just out to create havoc between picking up welfare cheques.

  99. Bruce of Newcastle

    World councils aiming to ban meat

    Two things I saw today.

    First was for the Rebel Whopper, on a sign outside of a Burger King.

    It was described as being made from “plant based protein”. I have no idea what my bogan suburb will make of this innovation. The Maccas just across the road to me looks even more attractive.

    The other one was for a company called Ynsect. Here’s what the blurb said:

    Ynsect, a France-based company focused on producing insect proteins for pet and other animal foods, raised a $150 million Series C in February. … With a growing population driving up the demand for agriculture, and current agricultural processes contributing to our climate crisis, the resource-friendliness of insect protein stands to have an impact.

    The name Ynsect is totally cool. Apparently they have the largest insect farm on the planet.
    I for one welcome our new Ynsect masters.

  100. feelthebern

    No, what you want is an annual penguin hunt.

    Penguins are smug little shits.
    I’d go to the Antarctic just to punch one in the face.

  101. Oh come on

    My kid’s watching some Narnia crap on commercial TV. I just saw a Best and Less ad. It featured a bunch of photogenic young children wiggling and jiggling while looking to camera in a variety of clothes. As this is going on, a caption is flashed up that reads “LOOK”. Then that fades out and another comes up that reads “TOUCH”.

    Don’t skimp on copywriters, folks.

  102. Zyconoclast

    No, what you want is an annual penguin hunt.

    Penguins are smug little shits.
    I’d go to the Antarctic just to punch one in the face.

    The hunt Canada loves: Why seal clubbing will never die

  103. Eyrie:

    When I look at a less than full Moon, in the dark area I want to see the lights of human settlements, transport ways and mines. The signature of people working hard for a better future for themselves, their lunar children and the whole human race. And loving and laughing, making music, art and science. Oh the things we can do and see and love.
    h/t Dan Simmons and the late, great Poul Anderson

    I’d love to see it too, but it looks like the human race have stumbled at this hurdle due to Leftist sabotage.
    A pity – we were looking good there for a while.

  104. Infidel Tiger

    The Wallabies should all commit Hari Kari. Most embarrassing performance in Australian sporting history.

    Kill yourselves you weak xunts.

  105. Zyconoclast

    Manchester Arndale stabbings: Five injured as man arrested

    Police said there had been no reports of fatalities and counter-terror officers were leading the investigation but “keeping an open mind”.

    A man in his 40s has been arrested on suspicion of serious assault.

  106. Steve trickler

    A fraudster has slapped a copyright claim on this Cover.



  107. jupes

    There is another world cup going on at the minute. The six-a-side soccer world cup and it’s happening right in my back yard (of sorts).

    Tonight’s the final and they just had a didgeridoo torturing everyone with what was no doubt some sort of welcome to country. Good to see a couple of the foreigners giving it due respect and practicing shots at goal while it was going on.

  108. Muddy

    Winston Smith
    #3181884, posted on October 11, 2019 at 11:05 pm

    Eyrie:
    …the human race have stumbled at this hurdle due to Leftist sabotage.

    Apathy, passivity, and ignorance enable sabotage.
    ‘We just took our eyes off the ball for three or four decades, when suddenly …Bam!’
    Yeah, nah.
    Our ancestors will be rightly disowning us.

  109. Zyconoclast

    Renault ousts chief executive Thierry Bolloré in ‘coup’

    French car manufacturer Renault has dismissed its chief executive, Thierry Bolloré, with immediate effect.
    The current finance director, Clotilde Delbos, has been appointed to run the business on an interim basis.
    Renault’s move comes close on the heels of the decision by its industrial partner Nissan to appoint a new chief executive earlier this week.

  110. Steve trickler

    Had my Tangerine Dream cover track ‘Love on a Real Train’ demonetized via content ID claim by an artist called ‘Tangent Dream’. He is blatantly stealing other people’s covers and actually selling them via distributors! Found his album on Amazon called ‘The Orion Conspiracy’, features a track called ‘Galaxy Express’, which is my cover! Total scum bag. I noticed at least two other tracks he’s stolen from other artists too, including Vangelis! I’ve contacted the distributor he’s using, so let’s see what happens..

  111. Dr Faustus

    The Wallabies should all commit Hari Kari. Most embarrassing performance in Australian sporting history.

    WTF? Australia fucking thrashed Rugby Powerhouse Georgia.
    Forget all the basic playing errors and the fact that there are no settled combinations, or even a starting 23 at the end of the pool; the massive 27:8 scoreline throws down the gauntlet to England.

    And, as Jordan’s mum says, there’s no place for a 6’4″ straight-running back, good under the high ball, who doesn’t love sodomy.

  112. Infidel Tiger

    Dr F…. bwahahaha!

    You can only laugh. We really do suck dick.

  113. Hazmatic

    The PhD student once again displays his bewildering ignorance of history, his profound inability to read and comprehend his own references and abysmal innumeracy.

    He makes the risible claim that “the total number of Nashos balloted in 1970-72 was likely around 200000. That is woefully wrong. The annual intake of “balloted in” National Servicemen after 1966 was set at 8,400. At best only 25,200 could have possibly been “balloted in” in this period.

    The ballots applicable through the period 1970-72 were Ballots 11-16, of which only those from Ballots 11 and 12 conducted in 1970 saw service in Vietnam.

    His own reference states that between “1964 and 1972, 804 286 twenty-year-olds registered for national service and 63 735 national servicemen served in the Army.” Of those ‘balloted in’ only 18,712 saw service in Vietnam.

    804 286 were required to register
    63 735 were ‘balloted in’ and joined the Army
    18,712 of these saw service in Vietnam.
    Only 8% of those ‘required to register’ were ‘balloted in’ of those only 29% went to Vietnam. The numerical error he made to get to 200000 was conflating those ‘required to register’ in the period with those actually ‘balloted in’.

    The historical error revolves around using irrelevant data from 1972. No National Servicemen were posted to Vietnam in 1972 as Australia executed a staged withdrawal from Vietnam beginning in November 1970 and completed by March 1972. For example, in 1971 only 404 National Servicemen served in Vietnam with the last Infantry Battalion posted there – 4RAR.

    Using numbers gleaned from Hansard in the period 1970-1972 as the numerator and then using a poorly guessed at number – 200000 as the denominator is like dividing apples by potatoes. This is not advanced statistics, it a Primary School math problem that he fails at.

    Further, to downplay the number of volunteers for NS, he ignores several categories of NS volunteerism. In addition to those who volunteered for NS whose birth dates did not coincide with a ballot draw, which are the only ones he includes, there are several other categories. For example:
    Aboriginals who were exempt from NS were all volunteers.
    Those who served a second tour were mostly definitely volunteers the second time around.

    A far better methodology would be to take a typical rifle platoon of the era serving in Vietnam, identify who was a Nasho by their service number and then determine who were the NS volunteers. Luckily for us Bruce Ravenscroft has provided just such a data set of a typical platoon serving in Vietnam in that period in Appendix 1 of his work “Contact- wait out” This allows us to accurately gauge the real percentage of voluntary National Service.

    There were 34 members of 5 Platoon B Company 7RAR.

    23 of them were Nashos.

    Of those 23 Nashos, Cpl Rusty Hollings was on his second tour and a volunteer.
    Pte Gil Green and Pte Charlie Tilmouth were Aboriginals and exempt from NS. They were volunteers
    LCpl Joe Gilewicz and LCpl Doug Hooker have Birth Dates that do not coincide with ‘balloted in’ dates thus were volunteers.

    So, rather than the 0.6% NS volunteerism rate that the PhD student claims, 5 of the 23 members of 5/B/7RAR were volunteers with NS service numbers – 22%
    Not 0.6% – 22%

    The rate was probably much higher. There is no way of easily calculating those Nashos who joined the Regular army during their period of NS because they retained their original NS service number. For example, the Platoon Commander Lt Doug Gibbons was a Nasho who joined the Regular Army, but it is unclear when he did so. Also, there is anecdotal evidence from the PhD student himself, that the rifleman whose last 3 were 510 was a Nasho who had volunteered to join the Regs.

    It is safe to say that between 1/3 of the Nashos in this platoon were NS volunteers.

    The PhD student should have an incendiary sense of shame and embarrassment that he must be told this here.

    It is important to note that the nominal roll of 5 Platoon B Company 7RAR compiled by Bruce Ravenscroft was the original complement of the Platoon on their arrival in Vietnam. Some members left the Platoon due to injury, illness and expiration of members period of NS. The OC B Company also moved out others who were perhaps better suited to operating a movie projector…

    Langford, S. 2017, Appendix: The national service scheme, 1964-72, AWM, 11/10/2019, https://www.awm.gov.au/articles/encyclopedia/viet_app

    Department of Veterans Affairs, 2019, Nominal Roll of Vietnam Veterans. 11/10/2019, http://www.vietnamroll.gov.au/home.aspx

    Ravenscroft, B. 1997, Contact – Wait Out. A Vietnam Diary, Self Published, Lismore.

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