How dare you

Okay – this is very good.

 

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57 Responses to How dare you

  1. jupes

    Sinc will you please allow None a short respite from her banning to comment on this thread please?

  2. Arky

    Hang on.
    You can’t criticise Tim Wilson on the blog.
    I’m putting you in moderation until you apologise.

  3. Arky

    Oh, well done Jupes.
    Way to ruin my point.

  4. jupes

    Way to ruin my point.

    Sorry mate.

  5. C.L.

    That ‘friend of climate action’ (or whatever) is really a thing?

  6. Chris M

    You can’t criticise Tim Wilson on the blog.

    Yes, like the whales we just need to protect some ….ah, orientations and groups! They might be a wee bit stupid but they surely don’t mean to be evil right.

  7. Tom

    Bravo! Rowan Dean is the resident satirist at the Australian Financial Review, who, until this morning, hadn’t attempted satire on live TV.

    And, like all good satire, it was very funny for a serious reason. The May 2019 election was fought on climate issues. The climate zombies lost, yet still refuse to accept the electorate’s verdict.

    So what the hell is a group of prominent Liberal Party MPs doing promoting junk climate “science” and the anti-democratic resistance?

    They represent the divisive Turnbull years, defending the high power prices that carpetbaggers like the former PM want to perpetuate through ruinous government subsidies his family is up to its neck in.

    They’re yesterday’s men and stand for the factional fracturing of the Liberal Party under Turnbull. As the Labor Party is currently finding out, division is political death.

  8. nb

    Where is the problem climate extremism proclaim? We have allegedly been ten years from environmental and social collapse for thirty years. Look outside. No change. Trust your eyes.
    Trust the Nobel winners and climate professionals who see no problem. Trust that when one person declares disaster, and to another that disaster has no manifestation, there probably is no disaster.
    People have been addicted to declaring the end of the world for millennia. It is a game for neurotics. Don’t be ruled by the hallucinations of neurotics.

  9. Sinclair Davidson

    None may return at any time. It is entirely up to her.

  10. Dr.Fred Lenin

    The politicians and public servants wont allow the world to end in ten years , it would bugger up the luxurious retirement the have planned with the taxpayers money they will be getting when they pull the plug too much to lose .

    Also soros and co wont allow it either , there is still heaps of money to be stolen from the people given time .

  11. Seco

    Tim Wilson, the minister for Arseless Chaps.

  12. A Lurker

    Q. What’s blue on the outside and red/green on the inside?

  13. Seco

    I may have missed something but what apart from IPA membership made anyone think Tim Wilson was a great white hope?

    He’s Christopher Pyne except comfortable with his sexuality but without the cutting wit.

  14. Siltstone

    Love is love. Sinc is still in love with Turnbull and Tim Wilson.

  15. jupes

    None may return at any time. It is entirely up to her.

    That is unfair. None was banned for refusing to apologise for calling Tim Wilson a liar.

    Yet as can be seen from this Quadrant article, Tim Wilson has had two different views on climate change. Thus we can deduce (paraphrasing):

    A: He has consistently believed his original view that climate change is crap;
    B: He has consistently believed his current view that climate change is real and a crisis; or
    C: He has changed his mind on the matter (coincidentally with being elected).

    Now if you believe A or B, then Tim Wilson is indeed a liar. C might be the case but it seems unlikely to me.

    On a similar note, he has hardly been consistent on the free speech issue. As noted by Delcon on the Tuesday Forum on October 10, 2019 at 5:46 pm; Wilson voted against free speech on the Religious Freedoms act. This from the same man who stated this when he was appointed as the Freedom Commissioner to the AHRC:

    ”Compulsory legal limits on speech based on acceptable conduct can undermine human rights,”

    If not a liar, Wilson is hardly a model of consistency on his supposed principles. On the other hand, by refusing to apologise None has stuck by her principles. As obnoxious as she is, I have a lot more respect for her than I do for Tim Wilson.

  16. Jannie

    Middle Class Religious Fanatics having a good time, victims in their own Hong Kong.

  17. What Jupes said, X a very large number indeed.

  18. Rafe Champion

    This is the Parliamentary wing of a group called the Conservative Coalition for climate action that has been meeting in the Sydney Eastern Suburbs for some time.

  19. Mark A

    Rafe Champion
    #3183431, posted on October 14, 2019 at 3:17 am

    This is the Parliamentary wing of a group called the Conservative Coalition for climate action that has been meeting in the Sydney Eastern Suburbs for some time.

    Is that an excuse of sort?

  20. notafan

    Dean makes an excellent point.

    We had a climate change election.

    The people said no.

    The mememes can go jump off a cliff with the rest of the climate lemmings.

    Incidentally, nothing says intellectual lightweight more that accepting the climate panickers’ ideology.

  21. Rafe Champion

    Not an excuse Mark, just a bit of background. The Conservative Coalition got on my radar shortly before the election with signs on poles in the Woollahra district and someone forwarded notices of meetings they held involving liberals, presumably associated with Turnbull junior and Mrs Photios (wind power investors). Have not heard more about them but this looks like the Federal Parliamentary spearhead of the movement.

    Climate loonies appear to be running the NSW Liberals no doubt on advice from Mr Photios who organizes the preselections.

    My advice is that when Scott Morrison was first elected he initially was not likely to be selected but the prospective candidate who was a conservative nominated from the branch was late in the day replaced by Scott Morrison.

    Same on the north side, an overwhelmingly popular local conservative denied preselection in a Liberal stronghold by a solid block of votes from Head Office.

  22. NuThink

    I recall a cartoon quip from the fifties or sixties.
    A man is wearing a sandwich board with the following written on it “The World Ends Friday”.
    He says to the blonde standing next to him waiting to cross the road.
    “What are you doing Saturday?”

  23. Mark A

    Rafe Champion
    #3183455, posted on October 14, 2019 at 4:32 am

    My advice is that when Scott Morrison was first elected he initially was not likely to be selected but the prospective candidate who was a conservative nominated from the branch was late in the day replaced by Scott Morrison.

    Same on the north side, an overwhelmingly popular local conservative denied preselection in a Liberal stronghold by a solid block of votes from Head Office.

    Thanks Rafe, the procedure carried out is familiar, but it was so long ago I couldn’t give the proverbial.
    Written down to how politics work.

    Anyone who thinks they can have an influence at the branch level is a fool.
    Doubly a fool because he/she pays the dues and does the work.
    Such is life.

  24. Mother Lode

    My understanding is that None was put into auto-moderation, not banned.

    The difference I imagined to be that individual comments would be stopped until cleared, and that None’s not posting is her making a point – her absence is keeping alive her point open discussion – as can be seen by the posts referring to her above and on other threads.

  25. hzhousewife

    A man is wearing a sandwich board with the following written on it “The World Ends Friday”.
    He says to the blonde standing next to him waiting to cross the road.
    “What are you doing Saturday?”

    Excellent description of Wilson, consummate politician. Thank you Jupes and NuThink.

  26. Tom

    Excellent description of Wilson, consummate politician.

    Wilson is the definition of the Canberra swamp and ScoMo ain’t gonna drain it.

  27. struth

    If not a liar, Wilson is hardly a model of consistency on his supposed principles. On the other hand, by refusing to apologise None has stuck by her principles. As obnoxious as she is, I have a lot more respect for her than I do for Tim Wilson.

    Agreed.
    If you’re standing by Tim Wilson you need to take a good hard look at yourself , Sinclair.
    Ban me for saying it, because I don’t give a shit.

    How good is Rowan Dean these days?

    When I saw him do that little speech I thought it would be picked up.
    Magic stuff.

  28. Sinclair Davidson

    None didn’t call Tim a liar. I suggested that None was lying.

  29. calli

    He might be doing a little March Through the Institutions, like the Fabians do.

    Our Man in the Climate Panic Asylum.

    ……

    Scrub that. I’ve watched too many episodes of ScoobyDoo.

  30. calli

    The three saddest words in the English language:

    “We had hoped…”

  31. Crossie

    Tom
    #3183473, posted on October 14, 2019 at 6:45 am
    Excellent description of Wilson, consummate politician.

    Wilson is the definition of the Canberra swamp and ScoMo ain’t gonna drain it.

    ScoMo has no intention of draining the swamp when he is happily wallowing in it.

  32. Win

    “ForCassius is an honourable man”

  33. Mother Lode

    The three saddest words in the English language:

    “We had hoped…”

    Of all sad words of tongue or pen,
    The saddest are these: ‘It might have been!’

    Tweaked for Calli’s purpose:

    When pollies report on schemes loftily scoped,
    Most dogged is this: “Well, we had hoped…”

  34. Ellie

    Excellent! 😂 🤣 😂

  35. Bar Beach Swimmer

    jupes
    #3183355, posted on October 13, 2019 at 11:51 pm

    Win
    #3183494, posted on October 14, 2019 at 7:39 am

    +1

  36. Tel

    If you get ANYTHING good out of a politician, you should consider yourself ahead of the game.

  37. Mother Lode

    If you get ANYTHING good out of a politician, you should consider yourself ahead of the game.

    If you get anything good out of a politician you are probably a surgeon.

    They like to get anything ‘good’ surgically taken out as it would be incompatible with the rest of their organism.

  38. Truth n Justice

    Unless I see the real start of a dam and a coal fired power station, not another feasibility study, I won’t be voting for the coalition. I can tolerate the vanity projects like homosexual marriage and pretending to believe in the climate myth but unless something concrete is actually achieved between now and the next federal election they will be dead to me and mine,

  39. MACK

    It may well be that Tim and the rest have decided to get inside the tent and try to inject some facts into the heads of morons like Bandt and Wilkie.

  40. mem

    Ultimately, the glorification of Chávez as the Supreme and Eternal Commander of the Revolution, and the creation of a scenario where the people are forced to depend on the government’s breadcrumbs to barely survive, has only served to subdue our citizens, bombarding us with a non-stop ideological narrative that presents them as the heroes that are saving us from a calamity of their own creation, fighting a good fight against the great enemy: The American Empire and Capitalism.

    https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2019/10/13/my-socialist-hell-20-years-of-decay-in-venezuela/

    “bombarding us with a non-stop ideological narrative that presents them as the heroes that are saving us from a calamity of their own creation, fighting a good fight against the great enemy: Climate Change.” My bold

  41. NuThink

    The three saddest words in the English language:

    “We had hoped…”

    Another three are “You would think……”
    Was talking to someone a few days who said to me “You would think …..”
    My reply “No – I would NOT think that”.

  42. jupes

    It may well be that Tim and the rest have decided to get inside the tent and try to inject some facts into the heads of morons like Bandt and Wilkie.

  43. jupes

    Woops wrong button:

    It may well be that Tim and the rest have decided to get inside the tent and try to inject some facts into the heads of morons like Bandt and Wilkie.

    Lol.

  44. jupes

    None didn’t call Tim a liar. I suggested that None was lying.

    I stand corrected. None was banned for not apologising for suggesting that:

    Wilson was never one to protest for our freedoms

    Okay that is wrong because Wilson has protested for our freedom in the past. However as Delcon pointed out, he has also protested against our freedom in the parliament. So None was wrong in a literal sense by using the word “never”, however she makes a good argument that Wilson’s principles revolve around himself. This thread supports her argument as the climate change rubbish he is advocating is hardly in the interests of the Australian people.

  45. Arky

    My understanding is that None was put into auto-moderation, not banned.

    ..
    Same thing.
    Even if she was posting, you would not know, because by the time Davidson gets around to clearing it, the thread has moved on and no bastard reads it.
    look, he may have every good reason to put her in moderation.
    God Knows, there is no way i would take liability for the scribblings of the loons attracted to this site.
    If you ask me, and no one has, he should boot a tonne of people.
    Start with the wang and move on to Ivorpeter then go from there.

  46. Arky

    Wilson has protested for our freedom in the past.

    ..
    Only the corrosive ones though, (disclaimer: only in my opinion, don’t put me back in moderation, Sire) so doesn’t that make None technically correct?

  47. bespoke

    feelthebern
    #3183313, posted on October 13, 2019 at 10:26 pm
    None is a she ?

    No one knows for sure least of all None.

  48. bespoke

    Thanks for being honest Arky, that it’s nothing to do with free speech.

  49. Andrew Deakin

    It’s not easy for an English speaker to mimic a Scandanavian accent, especially that of an autistic teenage troll. But Rowan Dean has managed it in this magnificent parody. Bravo. It seems all humour has migrated to the Right, now that the Left is so po faced.

  50. The Sheriff

    Wilson is a mediocre carpet-bagger who yearns for glossy pictures and media coverage for himself but little else.

  51. Dr Fred Lenin

    Anyway whats wrong with ccalling wilson a liar ? He is a career politician ,lying comes naturally , he was also a turbullist and we all know what the left is like with lying , turnbull is a globalite because he has his money hidden in the same Cayman islands bank as soros ( schwartz) and the other globalite gang the Cayman Tax Evader Bank .

  52. Crossie

    Andrew Deakin
    #3183782, posted on October 14, 2019 at 1:57 pm
    It’s not easy for an English speaker to mimic a Scandanavian accent, especially that of an autistic teenage troll. But Rowan Dean has managed it in this magnificent parody. Bravo. It seems all humour has migrated to the Right, now that the Left is so po faced.

    I had no idea Rowan Dean was this good. Humour has been completely excised from the national body and is now practiced by the subversives on the right, fleetingly and in the shadows by aptly named outsiders. We are resembling the Soviet Union more and more each day.

    The other issue is the treachery of our politicians, Dave Sharma didn’t waste any time in practically morphing into Turnbull. It must be something to do with that electorate that it’s representative must be a backstabber. I don’t even mind a certain amount of graft as long as the buffoons aren’t working to make things worse for the rest of us.

  53. Faye

    So now the Liberal Party’s Centre Left&Right/moderns/progressives/socialists/bedwetters are calling themselves Conservatives. If they are banging on about a Climate Emergency, this certainly doesn’t make them Conservatives.

  54. Eyrie

    ” It seems all humour has migrated to the Right, now that the Left is so po faced.”
    It has long been so. The left have never had a sense of humour, while we can laugh when called right wing death beasts.

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