Tuesday Forum: October 15, 2019

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  1. Cold-Hands

    I hadn’t seen this before: Bruce Lee playing table tennis using a nunchaku for a bat.

  2. bespoke

    Not bee been a big follower of music. When I hear a tune I like it sticks but not the name.

  3. Fair shake of the sauce

    Thank you Tom. Mark Knight is my pick. Vicpol what a joke.

  4. Mark A

    WD Tom, how did you manage the page turn?

  5. Mark A

    Fair shake of the sauce
    #3186282, posted on October 17, 2019 at 4:36 am

    Vicpol what a joke.

    Thnx
    Gotta get me new glasses, was wondering, never noticed the red shirt.
    Clear as sunshine now.

  6. bespoke

    Michael Ramirez., A.F. Branco.

  7. Mark A

    Just an observation, was watching the Bolt report of 15/10 with Kimberley Kitching on the show.

    Could not be more than 8 months, prolly less, since I saw her on TV, she aged a lot and put on a tremendous amount of weight since.
    Is this possible in a short time frame?
    I mean, she doesn’t exactly have the problems and responsibilities of the world on her shoulders as an excuse for it.

  8. struth

    Good Moaning.

    Well I’m absolutely gutted.
    The way Mr Rusty spoke to me yesterday has hurt me deeply.
    However I’ll try to soldier on.
    It seems although I am an utter, utter, utter, arse clown…….sniff…..I still have the ability to think logically and don’t repeat mindless left wing lies and propaganda as if facts.

    Here’s a little logic for you, you abusive, aggressive man.

    If a state has a totalitarian dictator or party that controls the means of production, controls social behaviour, demands all for the state over the individual and is acutely racist due to the collectivist mindset of socialism, and calls itself socialist, odds are on that it is not an extreme right wing version of socialism, due to the fact that there is nothing right wing to be found there at all.
    It’s extreme leftism and a complete socialist state.

    An extreme right wing socialist country would be the same as a soft socialist capitalist country, as logic would have it, such as Australia or France.

    SO GET FUCKED. you utter utter knob jockey.

  9. feelthebern

    Morning motivation.

  10. hzhousewife

    Equal pay strikes again. The Oz Wednesday reported Cricket T20 ladies team will be paid the same as the guys. So basically the revenue generated by the males pays for the females who wont be generating anything like the income the guys do.

    Socialism at work.

  11. zyconoclast


    Record 32 million Hispanics ready to vote, the largest minority in 2020

    The percentage of Hispanics eligible to vote in the upcoming 2020 presidential election has surged nearly 20% since 2016 when Hillary Clinton took 66% of the Latino vote.

    In 2016, he won about one-third of the Hispanic vote, but recent surveys show that dropping to one-fifth as the 2020 election nears.

  12. Win

    Re Phillip Adams.In his usual bumptious style wrote in the Australian prior to a John Howard losing his seat “who will I hate when John Howard loses his seat.” Happily I could remind him he could in his own words hate “ the American women with sagging vaginas” caused by “ the over use of vibrators who hadn’t to proffer their rectums to their husbands” this according to Adams was the cause of the Aides epidemic that didn’t eventuate.
    How did Adams know Howard was to lose his seat.
    The Aides epidemic another media marketing scare that caused a little girl who because of infected blood had to remove to New Zealand. Because she was ostracised by Bowers Gosford.

  13. feelthebern

    Jack knows he has to deplatform Trump if the Dem nomination is to have any chance.

  14. bespoke

    G-teem sleeping in?

    Suns out, good to go.

    Life is good.

  15. Bruce of Newcastle

    Fun equation. Do I commit business suicide in hope of preventing Trump winning an election he’ll probably win anyway?

  16. Tintarella di Luna

    Paul Joseph Watson critiques the Stinkies – he does tend to call on Jesus Christ a bit

  17. zyconoclast

    Foreign interference in elections?

    Barack Obama
    @BarackObama

    I was proud to work with Justin Trudeau as President. He’s a hard-working, effective leader who takes on big issues like climate change. The world needs his progressive leadership now, and I hope our neighbors to the north support him for another term.

  18. classical_hero

    The unhinged way numbers reacts is very similar to the behaviour of the Joker in the recent movie.

  19. Mother Lode

    Equal pay strikes again. The Oz Wednesday reported Cricket T20 ladies team will be paid the same as the guys. So basically the revenue generated by the males pays for the females who wont be generating anything like the income the guys do.

    I was just thinking about that this morning, and how government bodies far overestimate their remits, their power, their competence, and their understanding of the real world.

    Some butt head is confused and applies an arithmetic approach to a cultural matter such as men attracting paying audiences for cricket while women do not. Since (for the purposes of this particular bureaucratic exercise) there are two sexes – one male and one female – then they must be equal in every way. Therefore it is up to them to ‘make’ women’s cricket equal to men. By spending loads of money on uniforms, equipment, advertising, sponsorships, inviting them to functions, school programs – everything not actually cricket – they think they can make watching women’s cricket as popular as watching men’s.

    And how do they think this will work? Because they think ordinary people are stupid and if they just push something enough then they can be molded into what ever the bureaucrat wants – because ordinary people have no ‘selves’ and are always in need of a little more prodding, nudging, twisting, squeezing, pinching, scraping, and time in a kiln.

    So millions of dollars are wasted, a raft of regulation meant to channel the public’s decisions in the ‘right’ direct (and a lot of choices previously available now forbidden), billboards plastered with garish ministry approved advertising that persuades no one, and no success.

    How many ordinary people are as bad at managing their own affairs as bureaucracy at managing itself, but?

    If they really want a challenge, why don’t they try forcing people to like the public service. At least we would get a laugh.

  20. zyconoclast

    bloomberg.com doing serious election coverage

    Justin Trudeau Is in Trouble. Voters Get to Say How Much

    This election was supposed to be a cinch for Trudeau—the charismatic heartthrob leader with a penchant for selfies and quirky socks who champions free trade and welcomes refugees.

  21. Mother Lode

    I was proud to work with Justin Trudeau as President.

    I wonder how many Canadians, look across the border to the US, will think that Barack’s endorsement a plus for Justin?

    And how many will read it as Obama, as racist usual, automatically siding with another black guy.

  22. zyconoclast

    Billy Porter in Talks to Join Sony’s ‘Cinderella’

    Sony’s Cinderella. Sources say that Porter will be playing the movie musical’s resident fairy godmother.

    This Billy Porter

  23. Knuckle Dragger

    Next up – TBBLW 2020-21.

    Trans ‘women’ cricketers bearing a striking resemblance to the ‘ladeeees’ on Little Britain holding the abovementioned carnival in Mt Isa. Paid the same coin as Smith, Maxwell, Finch et al.

    No years of training behind them.
    No constant flogging themselves up through various grades, States, and international levels, consolidating themselves before taking the next step.
    No demonstrated ability to draw crowds, and therefore generate remuneration for themselves and the people/organisations that take risks to put on the event to draw the crowds to pay for it.

    And most of all, no talent.

    Other than, of course, the ability to hit a cricket b#ll coming towards them at slow-medium pace at best, with a $1500 bat over a shortened boundary with field restrictions that allow the pill to trickle into the rope unimpeded by other sweaty chicks with arses one long weekend on the pavlova away from exploding.

    If it hasn’t happened already, wait till they all get compulsory turkey baster six year maternity leave as well.

  24. Some History

    Thus spake Greta™ Loonborg:

    “Again and again, the same message. Listen to the scientists, listen to the scientists. Listen to the scientists!“

    https://twitter.com/GretaThunberg/status/1183798182754435072?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

    Short video:

    Bjorn from Abba hits back at Greta Thunberg haters

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/bjorn-from-abba-hits-back-at-greta-thunberg-haters-1.4040171

  25. Mother Lode

    Jack knows he has to deplatform Trump if the Dem nomination is to have any chance.

    A conservative version of twitter would go gangbusters if Dorsey is seen to be trying to nobble Trump.

    Ordinarily a new platform would face a long and uncertain process trying to pry users one by one from a mature provider with the appeal of a large existing audience (the reason to use Twitter rather than writing in your own diary) to their own less established product with its smaller audience.

    But if Trump’s fans felt slighted by Trump being censored, and there was a new place that he went to, they would sign up in droves. And straight away they would have a large audience too. A place which also had a lot fewer lefty trolls who believe free speech should not be extended to the right.

    Dorsey surely could not be that stupid. He is in the plum position now. Spacechook has lost much of its appeal since Twitter offers a more distilled version of what people really want to do.

    (I am not really sure what Instagram is about and whether it is truly any threat to Twitter as being even better attuned to what its denizens want.)

  26. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘He’s a hard-working, effective leader’

    Name one leader of anything, anywhere at any level that can be effective whilst wearing socks with pictures of cocks on them.

    They weren’t even black cocks. They were of indeterminate colour.

  27. Bruce of Newcastle

    “Again and again, the same message. Listen to the scientists, listen to the scientists. Listen to the scientists!“

    I’m a scientist. She should listen to me too then. There is no climate emergency. CO2 induced warming is too small to endanger the world.

  28. Top Ender

    Re Phillip Adams.In his usual bumptious style …

    Indeed.

    Phil was/is so in love with Krudd he resigned from the ALP when Kevin got booted.

    Here’s part of what he wrote at the time. And of course Phil helped put him into power:

    We’re told that everyone loathed Rudd. Apparently, I’m one of the very few who didn’t. Indeed, I became very fond of him. We’d met on Late Night Live in May 2001 and soon thereafter became friends. Despite our religious differences and ideological views that put me closer to Gillard, I admired Kevin’s intelligence and, yes, his ambition. To put that in context, ambition was sadly lacking in Beazley, the Al Gore of Australian politics, and that as much as anything doomed his prospects. So this column floated the idea of Rudd as Labor leader. I wrote a lot about him but it took three leadership challenges until, through sheer persistence, he got up. And because of his conservatism he beat Howard, as I always thought he would.

    In that agonising farewell speech Rudd referred to various staffers and colleagues as “good humans”. Well, Rudd is a very good human. Few in the upper echelons of politics have comparable idealism. Even fewer share his intelligence and ethics. Of course he has flaws – but they’re offset by his essential decency. And to see him cut down by thugs without decency, working in darkness, disgusts me.

    One of the best things about buying the Weekend Oz is to flick past his column.

  29. bespoke

    Mother Lode
    #3186317, posted on October 17, 2019 at 8:12 am
    Dorsey surely could not be that stupid. He is in the plum position now. Spacechook has lost much of its appeal since Twitter offers a more distilled version of what people really want to do.

    It’s a global company so they only have to worry when the lefty market is saturated. But by then they will mandatory board members sent from Beijing.

  30. Percy Popinjay

    always loved the rigour and uncompromising integrity that academic thinking brought to complex problems

    The type of message that will be purveyed far and wide by the evil nemesis of Cap’n Obvious, Perfesser Bass-Ackwards.

  31. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Few in the upper echelons of politics have comparable idealism.’

    The kindest thing that can be said about this comment is that it’s, well, revolutionary.

    But multi-multi-millionaires can afford to be idealistic. Not for the punter with power bills to pay.

  32. Mother Lode

    Bjorn from Abba hits back at Greta Thunberg haters

    I don’t hate Greta. She is a joke. She is a puppet. I think we should make bobble-head car ornaments in her form that sit on the sill near the back window and have the head wobble scowlingly with every bump in the road.

    I have a pretty dismal opinion of her puppet masters though.

  33. Bruce of Newcastle

    At last we have a quid pro quo to impeach the President with!

    Top Diplomat Testified That Obama Admin, Not International Community, Orchestrated Ukraine Prosecutor’s Firing

    Oops, wrong President. Now where did I put that memory-hole again?

  34. Shy Ted

    Time to rewrite “In the Ghetto” to better reflect the world today –
    As the world boils, on a hot and dry Australia mornin’
    A genderless little baby child is born to two women
    And his mummies cry ’cause if there’s one thing that they don’t need
    It’s another little vegan mouth to feed in Australia
    People, won’t you check with me the child needs a clitorectomy
    Or it’ll grow to be an angry young man some day
    Beating all the women, he, is guilty of misogyny
    Do we simply stop washing and glue ourselves to roads?
    Well, the world turns and a hungry little boy with his great big t*ts
    Plies his trade in the street and is praised by Fitz in Australia
    And his husband dies, so he’s on the streets at night he’ll attack
    Old people, anybody, it’s OK cos he’s black, in Australia
    Then one night in desperation the young man breaks the law
    He smokes a cig, he eats some meat, Vicpol bash him hard on the soles of his feet
    In Australia
    As a crowd gathers ’round a genderless man
    “He’s Aussie of the Year” shout the MSM, in Australia
    As he collects the dole on a hot and dry Australia mornin’
    Another little genderless child is born in Australia
    To two gay men

  35. Mother Lode

    Name one leader of anything, anywhere at any level that can be effective whilst wearing socks with pictures of cocks on them.

    To be fair, this was in response to the fact that he can’t spell his own name so it is pointless writing it on his books and pens and gym clothes.

    So a visual representation is used instead. That famous picture is saying loud and proud: These are Justin’s socks.

  36. Knuckle Dragger

    The Slovenian Hag’s on the teev. Heavily made up, even for her. So much so it’s clearly hard to form any facial expression whatsoever.

    She looks like Max Headroom.

  37. Percy Popinjay

    the complete disconnect between the insanity of hitler’s language and the spellbinding quality of his delivery

    Thank goodness our beloved pollies, while masters of former, will never be able to master the latter.

    “We are Us”
    “Programmatic specificity”
    “Agile and innovative jobs and growth”
    “Li’l Gracie has sent me letter, abolish capitalism or we’re all gunna die”
    “I will not be lectured on misogyneee by that man”
    “Peons have a right to be big bigotty bigots”
    “The gliberal party is not bound by the laws of physics”
    “The eleventy gazillion surpluses that I announce tonight”
    “Get out the whipper snipper and trim me bush!”

    Etc. Monumental imbeciles, every last one of them. The fact that they haven’t all been tarred, feathered and then herded into shipping containers prior to being bulldozed off a cliff into the sea for their unrepentant role in the destruction of this country is more than enough evidence of what pathetic craven creatures we’ve devolved into.

    Shame, shame, shame, VenOztraliastan.

  38. Mother Lode

    Top Diplomat Testified That Obama Admin, Not International Community, Orchestrated Ukraine Prosecutor’s Firing

    Why would the ‘international community’ be messing about with a single federal prosecutor looking into a single company unless they all had their fingers in this one particular pie and it was in their political interest.

    Did they seriously proffer that as the ‘explanation’?

    Next they will be telling us that the guy was fired due to a spontaneous protest with machine guns and rocket launchers a la Benghazi.

  39. Percy Popinjay

    Shy Ted, that is magnificent. Makes Wordsworth read like the Vogons.

  40. Entropy

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)
    #3186321, posted on October 17, 2019 at 8:19 am
    komrades!
    Airline ditches ‘ladies and gentlemen’ for gender-neutral greeting

    You only have to fly Jetstar once to know that “Ladies and Gentlemen” is an entirely inappropriate greeting.

  41. Knuckle Dragger

    Percy,

    Precisely. Years of national embarrassment in a dozen lines or so. Truly cringeworthy, and yet an accurate reflection of these pompous gits’ apparent belief that they are in touch with the common punter.

    I’d mercifully forgotten about Lambie’s statement until just then. The monumental hubris of someone – anyone, let alone a Senator – who believes the public intelligence quotient would be raised by a discussion on her box landscapery is truly trans-galactic in nature.

    I was surprised at the time they didn’t run a competition on what type of landscaping would be appropriate for a dumpy, monobrow-having Tasmanian with a dodgy back.

    The landing strip (aka the GT stripe), love heart, Mickey Mouse, bunny ears [I have some gutted rabbit jokes for this, but decorum is important] – all questions of national import.

  42. mh

    And how many will read it as Obama, as racist usual, automatically siding with another black guy.

    I wonder if the bruthas will shoot some hoops?

  43. Eyrie

    “You only have to fly Jetstar once to know that “Ladies and Gentlemen” is an entirely inappropriate greeting.”
    So the Onestar greeting should be ” G’day bogans and boganettes, sit down, buckle up and STFU. Thanks.”

  44. Mother Lode

    The Slovenian Hag’s on the teev. Heavily made up, even for her.

    All that ugliness inside, propelled by continuous upwelling of new ugliness within, slowly burrows its way to the surface and must be covered by Spakfilla and paint until they can get her home and clear the upper couple of centimetres of her flesh using rotten meat as a lure.

    At least for a few hours her face does not heave and ripple with subcutaneous vermiform activity.

  45. Bruce of Newcastle

    You only have to fly Jetstar once to know that “Ladies and Gentlemen” is an entirely inappropriate greeting.

    Midgets and midgetesses?
    I’d travel with Jetstar except last time I did I could’t fit in the seat.
    Spent the entire flight with my legs poked out into the aisle.
    Otherwise my knees had to be propped up to nearly eye level there was so little space.

  46. struth

    There once was a man named Guturres
    To attack the west, this commo preferred
    to tell all and sundry
    The world ends this Sundy
    If socialism isn’t observed.

  47. Knuckle Dragger

    The world has given us the gift of great, nation-galvainsing oratory over millennia, which I’m confident the current local crop of window-lickers would have studied at some point. Or their media advisers, at the very least.

    ‘judged not by the colour of their skin, but by the content of their character’
    ‘ask not what your country can do for you’
    ‘a day that will live in infamy’
    ‘four score and ten years ago’
    ‘we are British, and we will always be British’
    ‘has so much been owed by so many, to so few’

    And yet we have:

    ‘men with blue ties’
    ‘I don’t know what she said, but I agree with it’

    Way to go, heavy hitters.

  48. Top Ender

    Sycophantic article on the Oz:

    For three years, Nova Peris says she gave all of herself to her role as the first female Aboriginal parliamentarian and senator.

    Her integrity, honesty and vulnerability.

    And it was “all of me” she wanted reflected in her official portrait.

    The Olympic gold medallist opted to wear no shoes for the unveiling of the painting at Parliament House, in what marked the first time an artwork in the historical memorials collection has been done by an indigenous artist.

    With ochre on her face and her feet planted firmly on the earth, Ms Peris said viewers would see “the true me in my entirety” in the painting.

    “Speaking out about injustices and equalities was not new to me when I came here. I’ve been doing this work throughout my sporting career and beyond for almost two decades before I moved into parliament,” Ms Peris said.

    “It was here, in this special place, that I not just put on the record the undisputed history of my people, our people, and continue to fight against these injustices, but I also demonstrated what excellence in public life can look like for those who come after me.”

    Ms Peris, who was chosen by former Labor prime minister Julia Gillard to be catapulted into parliament as a Northern Territory senator, noted the significance of the date of her portrait unveiling — on October 16, 1968, two African-American athletes raised their fists in the historic black power salute.

    “Just like the iconic image of those three men, I want this portrait to be a reminder to everyone in parliament of the histories of Aboriginal people, the injustices, the poverty my people still face, the endured hardships and the ongoing suffering through historical displacements,” the Yawuru, Gidja and Iwatja woman said.

    Artist Jandamarra Cadd, a Yorta Yorta and Dja Dja Warung man, said he tried to encapsulate Ms Peris’ connection to the land through 80,000 years of history.

    Senate leader Penny Wong said to her the portrait spoke of dignity, presence, quiet defiance and a sense of “I am here”.

    It was “actually quite extraordinary” it had taken so long for an Aboriginal artist to paint an official portrait for Parliament House.

    With husband Scott Appleton, her mother Joan and two of her three children Jack and Destiny at the event, Ms Peris said her family had endured the exhilarating highs and crushing lows of her career.

    “I’m not perfect, I have never pretended to be perfect. I come with faults. I am human. I have my flaws. But I’ve always given the very best of myself to everything that I’ve set my mind to,” she said.

    Unfortunately not matched by the comments below the article:

    Roy
    8 HOURS AGO
    I wonder what that little portrait cost the taxpayer. Australians really do reward people for mediocrity.

    Robert
    9 HOURS AGO
    I used to admire her.

    An Olympic champion across sporting disciplines.

    Then she became a lacky, who blew her hard and well earned credibility with the Labor party.

    What a shame.

    Rob H
    1
    Jan
    9 HOURS AGO
    A failure as a politician. In way above her capacity. Julia’s captain’s pick!
    20
    Garry
    9 HOURS AGO
    (Edited)
    Both added a lot of value to the Australian Community through their time in the Federal Parliament!
    Details escape me at present though.
    No, still nothing comes to mind.
    Must be something, surely!
    4
    Kim
    10 HOURS AGO
    What has this woman ever achieved as a Senator??
    16
    Tallulah
    10 HOURS AGO
    So many charitable comments!

    Geoff J.
    9 HOURS AGO
    I don’t consider her achievements as a Senator worthy of much note.
    4
    Steve
    10 HOURS AGO
    Seriously ?
    12
    Roy
    8 HOURS AGO
    Seriously

    Monarchist
    10 HOURS AGO
    She was, indeed, the first indigenous woman. That deserves a portrait.

    She was not, however, a great parliamentarian.

    It’s a mix, but all-in-all, that portrait needs to be there.
    5
    Atticus
    9 HOURS AGO
    (Edited)
    Why? If any portrait of an Aboriginal deserved to be there ,surely the elected Senator Neville Bonner was more worthy of the honour or doesn’t he count , not being a parachuted in Captain’s Pick, a mere male , competent and coming from Queensland?
    17
    Jean-Pierre
    9 HOURS AGO
    Senator Bonner WAS somebody.
    5
    Monarchist
    41 MINUTES AGO
    Hey Atticus and Jean-Pierre, his portrait has been in Parliament House for decades.

    Brian
    10 HOURS AGO
    A non elected politician….
    20
    Monarchist
    37 MINUTES AGO
    She WAS elected. The “captain’s pick” on Gillard’s part was pre-selection. She was elected on 22 January 2013.

    I am no fan of hers but the so-far 20 “likes” to your comment mean that 21 people have not done the most basic research before publicising their own laziness.

    Ron
    10 HOURS AGO
    She was absolutely useless as a Senator. Nova Peris had the opportunity to give a voice to Aboriginal Australians in our Parliament, and she threw it all away. Instead of representing her community, she chased more dollars on the sporting teat. The portrait should have shown her grasping for handouts, rather than “integrity, honesty and vulnerability”.
    15
    Raylee
    11 HOURS AGO
    Beautiful portrait Jandamarra Cad, congratulations.
    6
    Camille
    10 HOURS AGO
    “Eye of the beholder” comes to mind.
    11
    Ian
    11 HOURS AGO
    Let’s move on to something serious that affects the country!
    13
    Jeff
    11 HOURS AGO
    Sorry, Dear O Dear, Nova, Peter and Combet failed
    8
    My 2cents worth
    13 HOURS AGO
    Trailblazing…you gotta be joking.
    28
    Ernie
    13 HOURS AGO
    I think we need to look back in history without rose coloured glasses.

    A quick trip down memory lane is always helped by the use of modern technology.
    11
    J
    13 HOURS AGO
    And what a dud she was when in Parliament. Achieved absolutely ZERO!!
    53
    Tom
    13 HOURS AGO
    Well done Nova. A beautiful example and inspiration to your people.
    2
    Warren
    13 HOURS AGO
    She summed herself up and the rest of us as well.
    2
    chris
    13 HOURS AGO
    She was a total failure apart from being a very good athlete. Chris J
    31
    Ian
    14 HOURS AGO
    (Edited)
    Ho hum. Here we go again. Give us a break from all of this. And now it’s 80,000 years of history.
    42
    Rod
    9 HOURS AGO
    Interesting isn’t it? Apparently indigenous Australians arrived here before homo sapiens migrated out of Africa.
    8
    Cheryl
    15 HOURS AGO
    (Edited)
    Injustice? The only injustice is that she was carried aboard the Gravy Train by Gillard, never even elected. Typical Labor whinger.
    Mal
    71
    Wayne
    15 HOURS AGO
    Unless you are an Indigenous woman you have no right whatsoever to criticise Nova. She said so.
    39
    Trevor
    16 HOURS AGO
    Opted to wear no shoes…….. why?
    24
    Harry
    10 HOURS AGO
    Sore feet?
    7
    AKA Peter
    16 HOURS AGO
    (Edited)
    She was a fantastic hockey player, an asset to the Australian team for a long time.
    Now how did that qualify her to be Gillard’s pick and parachuted into Parliament?
    61
    Laurelle
    15 HOURS AGO
    Same qualifications as Peter Garrett, I suppose. At least she was never a Minister.
    39
    WALDEMAR
    14 HOURS AGO
    As a former advocate of Garrett(and Midnight Oil, as such) due to his/their contribution to music and , indeed , social and political commentary it shows the depth/ shallowness of human behaviour !
    Only God can help us all – and I am not religious.
    Suggest everyone listen to Roger Waters (ex Pink Floyd) album ‘Amused to Death’
    You’re a long time looking at the lid !

    Michael
    12 HOURS AGO
    Peter Garrett was betrayed by Kevin Rudd .
    6
    Elizabeth
    11 HOURS AGO
    You’re right. Peter Garrett wrote three memos to Rudd, warning him of the dangerous situations developing with the Pink Bats installation. Rudd ignored the advice. Garrett did publish those memos once in one of the newspapers.
    E lakeside 9:20pm
    7
    Atticus
    9 HOURS AGO
    That is true. I didn’t care much for Garrett either as a musician or a politician but he wasn’t really responsible for the pink Batts disaster which was really all Rudd’s Own Work: he was just left holding the can for it.
    4
    Jan
    9 HOURS AGO
    And the other useless one, Kristine Keneally.
    6
    Geoff J.
    9 HOURS AGO
    And another useless one, Kimberly Kitching.

    CalJ
    10 HOURS AGO
    (Edited)
    And remember Julia Gillard sacked a hard working white woman so Nova Peris could claim the ultimate prize! At least she is not claiming to have been actually elected.
    20

    Link – doubtless the moderators will wake up in an hour or so and dump all the comments in the forgettery

  49. cohenite

    zyconoclast

    #3186297, posted on October 17, 2019 at 7:22 am

    Record 32 million Hispanics ready to vote, the largest minority in 2020

    The percentage of Hispanics eligible to vote in the upcoming 2020 presidential election has surged nearly 20% since 2016 when Hillary Clinton took 66% of the Latino vote.

    In 2016, he won about one-third of the Hispanic vote, but recent surveys show that dropping to one-fifth as the 2020 election nears.

    I don’t believe that. If it were true Trump is stuffed. And so is the West.

  50. JC

    Eyrie

    Let’s be very clear about the commercial relationship between Jetstar and its customers. There are no illusions that it’s complexly based on hate.

    The customers hate Jetstar because it’s a budget airline and all that comes with that. The airline despises the customers because they’re cheap demanding entitled riff raff who ordinarily should not be travelling. It’s all good and it works. It’s an honest relationship.

  51. JC

    That’s what worries me the most about the election, Cronkers. The saving grace is that fewer of them end up voting when it’s all said and done.

    The perverse thing is that Trump’s immigration restrictions would help this cohort and they ought to be voting Trump to the last person.

    The eye opener for me was that I read about a decade ago it took 80 years for the Italian immigrants and the following gens to finally turn against the D’rats and begin voting GOP. The J..wish cohort is still 70% D’rat.

  52. Top Ender

    Shy Ted’s rewrite of “In the Ghetto”, and Mother Lode’s bobble-head Greta – two comments indeed worth checking in for this morning!

  53. johanna

    Artist Jandamarra Cadd, a Yorta Yorta and Dja Dja Warung man, said he tried to encapsulate Ms Peris’ connection to the land through 80,000 years of history.

    Whoa! We’re up to 80,000 years now – that means it’s doubled over the last decade or so.

    Any bets on when they’ll reach the ton?

  54. min

    Pity Nova did not wear tradional dress of her mob it would not have been bare feet and ochre , just ochre.

  55. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Interesting isn’t it? Apparently indigenous Australians arrived here before homo sapiens migrated out of Africa.’

    Dunderhead. They came by spaceship. Freakin’ obviously.

    God. Some people.

  56. Knuckle Dragger

    I also note that the preferred pose by the ex-Senator was not the one in which she was left on an anthill with her legs broken and left to die of exposure, as she’d outlived her usefulness to the tribe.

  57. mh

    Look at this moron Lindsay Graham

    “I will do anything I can to help him, but I will also become President Trump’s worst nightmare. I will not sit along the sidelines and watch a good ally, the Kurds, be slaughtered by Turkey.”

    A good ally. Hahaha. The US tooled up some Kurdish militias to fight ISIS.

    I guess Graham thought the mujahideen (al Qaeda) were a good ally.

  58. Bruce of Newcastle

    Leopard shorts are haram.

    Saudi govt arrests gay man for wearing leopard shorts at beach

    The 23-year-old Suhail al-Jameel wrote to his over 171,000 Twitter followers on Sunday that the authorities charged with him sharing nudity online.“The police [have changed] my charges to electronic crimes, taking photos of nudity,” he wrote, adding, “How am I nude if I am wearing shorts on a hot beach?” … Jameel posted a photo of him wearing leopard colored shorts on October 6.

    Maybe for decency he should’ve worn a full bacon suit instead.

  59. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Whoa! We’re up to 80,000 years now – that means it’s doubled over the last decade or so.

    Any bets on when they’ll reach the ton?

    As long as gullible whitefella’s go on without questioning…

  60. mh

    The Democrats are furious that Trump is not defending the border.

    The Syrian border.

  61. lotocoti

    Dunderhead. They came by spaceship. Freakin’ obviously.

    The Wankhanda diaspora.

  62. mh

    Trump has a knack of getting to the heart of the matter

    They have a problem at the border; it’s not our border,” the president said.

    “If Syria wants to fight for their land, that’s up to Turkey and Syria,” he added. “Syria may have some help with Russia, and that’s fine. It’s a lot of sand. They’ve got a lot of sand over there. So there’s a lot of sand that they can play with.”

  63. struth

    Mumma Mia
    Here we go again.
    My My, Bjorn’s another lefty stooge

    Mummia Mia
    Were not surprised to find
    My My, he’s left his brains behind

    Yes, He’s been broken hearted
    Thinking of all the cows that farted

    My My, Now Saint Greta’s set him free…………………….

    Momma Mia ,
    another famous prick
    My My, found playing with his little dick

    Momma Mia
    He can’t understand
    My My,All da bad hurty white old men

    yes, he’s been blue since it started,
    Saint Greta is really a Martyr
    How dare, they, disagree with her

  64. Geriatric Mayfly

    International Pronoun Day. Watch for the lapel ribbons in Parliament especially the Senate.

    Everyday was pronoun day in 6th grade. All personal pronouns were in a side- bar on the blackboard, beside that week’s Times Table and recited each morning. Along with length, weight and volume measurements.

  65. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Mark Latham calls for people to avoid flying JetStar now to show their dislike of its newfound ‘gender neutrality’ in its greeting to boarding passengers. He’s right that people quite like being called ‘ladies and gentlemen’ on a cheap airline. For many it is all they can afford, and that welcome offers them dignity. But there will be no boycott. JetStar provides departure and arrival from main airports not from places out in the sticks where extra costs are added getting to them and back home once landed. It’s convenient as well as cheap and these days on inter-city routes also caters to business people.

    JetStar have just made this cheap trip, what I used to call ‘getting the bus’, obviously now less than the best. The basic civility of the greeting was always welcome in those weekly trips, often on JetStar , that I made to Sydney to help out with my family when we were living down south for nearly two years not so long ago. If you could book your seat place, have 10kg of cabin luggage for a two-day trip so not bother with the carousel luggage that made things a hassle, walk on at Kingsford-Smith at a convenient hour, and come home with the same facility, be politely greeted and buy a cup of something on the flight, it was an OK way to travel for an hour or so; no problems. We’ve done it once to Japan, and it wasn’t too bad then either.

    If I ever fly with them again I will make a point of saying what happened to ladies and gentlemen? Do you want to encourage people to behave as less than that? Not what most business people using JetStar would hope for.

    ‘Everybody’ diminishes the tone, which is set low to start with. Why make it worse?

    Oh, I forgot. Influence of little leprechaun? He’s OK with running the flights, but hopeless at customer relations. Someone should tell him.

  66. P

    Mother Lode’s bobble-head Greta

    Reminded me of this:

  67. John Constantine

    https://www.summerlandreview.com/news/canadian-company-to-launch-low-cost-cannabis-product-to-undercut-illicit-sellers/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    Cheap chicom cannabis is coming as soon as they can bribe its entry. Do the cartels have a price advantage for illegal product grown with slave labour and logistics provided at gunpoint?.

    Will hitech legal marijuana, paying full tax, outcompete the cartels with new products and marketing and right to consume?.

    Stopping the power of the cartels to use billion dollar drug shipments to corrupt the political and legal system and conduct a murderous civil war is step one.

    https://saraacarter.com/mexico-murder-rate-hits-record-high-drug-cartels-to-blame/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=social-pug

    The homicide rate in Mexico grew 5.3 percent in the first half of 2019 and the drug cartels are to blame, according to the Associated Press. The murders totaled 17,608 over the first half of the year, which amounts to an average of nearly 100 killings per day.

    Something like this in victoria, once a few more billion dollar drug shipments slip through, and politicals are bribed to fast track mass importation of a latin american diaspora, would justify a Tyrannical crackdown by their andrews regime using chicom secret police technology and imported death squads.

    They know they want a totalitarian police state, they just have to create the conditions to excuse it.

    Comrades.

  68. JC

    It’s yuge considering the home island is about 5 mil.

    According to the Census, there are 34.5 million Americans who list their heritage as either primarily or partially Irish. That number is, incidentally, seven times larger than the population of Ireland itself (4.68 million). Irish is the second-most common ancestry among Americans, falling just behind German.

  69. notafan

    Irelands’s greatest ever export.

  70. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘So there’s a lot of sand that they can play with.’

    Brilliant.

  71. Anthony

    Did Trump call Pelosi a third rate politician? As with every stage-managed democrat event, it doesn’t seem to be 100 percent clear. Nor does the Trump or Pelosi meltdown ring true.

  72. Top Ender

    BHP? Buy Her Pizza?

    Compo for sacked sex-prank worker
    EXCLUSIVE
    EWIN HANNAN

    A BHP company has been ordered to pay compensation to a female truck driver sacked for putting a sex toy and butter knives in a colleague’s hand luggage before he went through airport security, and posing for a selfie at work standing on a table in a shirt unbuttoned to the bottom of her bra.

    Employers slammed the Fair Work Commission’s decision to award $6550 compensation to Tara Odgers after the tribunal found she was unfairly dismissed because Central Queensland Services did not follow the disciplinary process in the enterprise agreement covering the BHP-operated Caval Ridge Mine.

    Ms Odgers put the sex toy and butter knives in her colleague’s hand luggage and filmed him on her mobile phone as he went through security at Moranbah Airport on October 16 last year.

    An X-ray machine flagged the bag and security staff searched through his luggage before placing the sex toy and butter knives on a counter. Ms Odgers was required by “very stern” security staff to hand over her phone and the footage was deleted.

    Ms Odgers said it was a prank to get back at her colleague, who was her housemate, for “horseplay” when he put pizza on the roof of her camp room. Asked in cross-examination if a sex toy might be considered an offensive object, she said: “Well, most people have one.”

    In the second incident in March this year, the commission found Ms Odgers stood on a meal room table with two female colleagues before they unbuttoned their tops down to the last two buttons and “provocatively bared the top of their breasts while leaning forward” for a ‘selfie” which was later posted, without Ms Odgers’s knowledge, on Facebook.

    Commissioner Jennifer Hunt said it defied belief how any of the women thought it would be a good idea to pose for such a selfie in the workplace.

    She found Ms Odgers invented evidence she gave to the commission and made a false statement during management’s investigation. Given Ms Odgers was 49 years old at the time of the hearing, she said there was no rational explanation for her immature conduct.

    Finding there was a valid reason to dismiss her, Commissioner Hunt said Ms Odgers breached the BHP charter values of respect and integrity, and its code of conduct which says employees should never behave in way that may be perceived as offensive.

    But she found the dismissal was “unjust and unreasonable” as management did not follow the enterprise agreement’s “fair play guidelines” which set out a fourstep disciplinary process involving counselling and warnings. She said she was deeply troubled by the company’s failure to meet its lawful obligations and awarded her compensation, not reinstatement.

    The Australian Chamber of Commerce and Industry’s workplace relations director Scott Barklamb said the “absurd” decision showed workplace laws needed to change to assist employers trying to combat unacceptable employee conduct.

    He said the ruling sent a message that employees could not only get away with irresponsible conduct, but be rewarded for it.

    Oz print edition

  73. cohenite

    mh

    #3186371, posted on October 17, 2019 at 9:53 am

    The Democrats are furious that Trump is not defending the border.

    The Syrian border.

    Excellent.

  74. P

    House Democrats Walk Out of Meeting With Trump, Complaining That He Was “Insulting” Towards Granny Rictus McBotoxImplants (Nancy Pelosi)
    —Ace of Spades

    Oh that’s so weird, the House Democrats are always so gracious towards Trump

  75. Cardimona

    Top Ender

    Thanks for that suggestion yesterday.
    This got straight into the NT News

    The Editor

    Yes, Dale Wakefield (NT News, 16/10), blackouts are unacceptable but they’re going to become a regular occurrence if the smugnorant wokerati get their insidiously destructive way.

    Solar is an intermittent and unreliable power source that is only useful for 6 to 10 hours per day on clear days. Solar’s output is much-reduced on cloudy days and is nil at night.

    Last Sunday Alice Springs was blacked out for several hours when just one cloud tripped out its fancy new solar-and-battery system. It only surprised those who can’t grasp electrical engineering.

    It’s not the only time it’s happened either; patchy clouds crossing large commercial solar factories wreak havoc for grid managers trying to match supply to load and maintain AC frequency.

    It adds a whole level of complexity and expense to electricity supply that is completely unnecessary and unwarranted.

    All of this solar silliness is based on the incorrect assumption that man-made CO2 can defy all the laws of physics and cause the world to fry and everyone on it to die.

    To paraphrase H.L. Mencken, CO2 wrongology is designed to distract us while the socialocusts swarm to devour the prosperity our forebears created and sneak in a global-socialist government.

    If warmies had any compelling evidence at all it would speak for itself and they wouldn’t need to weaponise Greta-kids and glue themselves to streets. CO2-warming is a myth, and it’s busted.

    (231 words)

    And the Gold Coast paper rarely disappoints. I got away with calling the glue-handed frightbats “Excretion Retention”…

    “Granite belt blooms back to life” (GCB, 16/10) after drought and fire. Yep, just like the Reef does after cyclones and crown of thorns. Just like the Red Centre does after rain. Nature is irrepressible and glue-handed Excretion Retention frightbats don’t seem to know even that ancient and self-evident detail.

  76. cohenite

    There is no doubt that the West is currently being significantly affected by climate change activism. But, the more rational amongst us can perhaps already see that very little of what is currently being articulated by this populist movement resembles fact.

    What we see from activists is more prophecy than numerically verifiable prediction — certainly no testing of falsifiable theory through what might be considered the scientific method.

    Indeed, the leaders of the current populist movement against climate change seem unaware of the history of science or the history of climate change embedded in the geological record.

    And while obsessed with climate, they seem unable to make a practical forecast for next week or next year when it comes to issues such as when the drought here in Australia might break. The drought will break, and with flooding rains.

    In contrast, the next book in the IPA’s Climate Change: The Facts series is about facts and places current weather in context. The book will be available for purchase early next year. It will be a book by dissidents, obsessed with facts, who understand that the climate is always changing.

    The four arguably most important chapters will be on ‘water’ and it is my intention that they will move us towards a new theory of climate.

    The four chapters are about cosmic rays, cloud cover, tropical convection and water vapour. Water vapour is an important, but largely overlooked, greenhouse gas. Indeed, water in its many forms — rather than carbon dioxide — will be dominant in the new emerging theory of climate.

    This theory perhaps has its origins in a little noted paper written by Richard Lindzen, Ming-Dah Chou and Arthur Hou back in 2001. And it got physicists like Peter Ridd thinking.

    Dr Ridd is contributing one of the four seminal water chapters in the next book. The other important chapters in this section on water are by Henrik Svensmark, Geoffrey Duffy and the great Richard Lindzen.

    I am asking you to support this book of research by making a tax deductible donation to Climate Change: The Facts 2020. You can click here to make a donation today.

    If you are able to donate $400 or more, you have the option of your name being printed in the book. I am proud that my own name will be on the front cover of the book alongside Duffy, Svensmark, Ridd, Lindzen and other fine scientists.

    The four water chapters will be controversial, with technically complex elements, but the book will also include chapters that are easier to digest, and a few that are more philosophical.

    There will be about 20 chapters in total in the next book, including several chapters on Antarctica. So of course, there is a chapter on penguins, and perhaps another on volcanoes.

    The history of science suggests that paradigms are never disproven until they are replaced. So, now more than ever, it is important that you back this book that will challenge the current consensus, which is the current dominant paradigm.

    Physicist and philosopher, the late Thomas Kuhn, explained that competition within segments of the scientific community is the only process that has historically ever actually resulted in the replacement and then eventual rejection of one previously accepted paradigm or theory. It is so important that alternative voices are heard, that there is opportunity for a new theory of climate to emerge.

    If you are at all sceptical of the catastrophists’ claims that the current drought in Australia is the very worst on record, sea levels are at record highs and the planet about to melt — and most importantly, if you would like your voice to be heard and to contribute in practical way to a fact-based, new theory of climate change — then I ask you to consider making a tax deductible donation to the IPA’s next book in the Climate Change: The Facts series by clicking here

    Jennifer Marohasy, BSc PhD

    Senior Fellow
    Institute of Public Affairs

  77. The Barking Toad

    Excellent work Cardimona (and Top Ender)

  78. cohenite

    Cardimona

    #3186400, posted on October 17, 2019 at 10:44 am

    Top Ender

    Good letters. Excretion retention.

  79. C.L.

    Compo for sacked sex-prank worker

    In other words, the female Fair Work Commissioner let her off (with a cash prize) because … sista.

  80. Infidel Tiger

    Josh Dawsey
    @jdawsey1

    When Pelosi and Hoyer got up to leave the meeting, per a senior Democratic aide, Trump said, “Goodbye, we’ll see you at the polls!”

    He is the one we have been waiting for.

  81. hzhousewife

    You are on fire Cardimona, that letter is going out to my email contact list – Florida, Montana, UK, NZ et al, well done

  82. Mother Lode

    Hell, if we are going the Greta, I am re-posting my Angry Greta song, without any apologies to the Beatles because Paul McCartney is a hectoring misanthropic misery guts.

    Angry Greta, media-made
    Angry Greta, media-made

    Angry Greta, media-made
    Nothing beyond your outrage
    Littlest things bring greatest ravings from you.

    Standing at the gabfest podium,
    Giving vent to all your odium
    Ticking off the sinners with your wicked black look
    With the braids she looked much colder
    Burning eyes with roiling smolder
    Made her look a little like a Wehrmacht fan

    Angry Greta, media-made
    May I inquire discreetly
    Can you conceive that you just might leave me be

    Sat at home to watch some tellie
    Greta growled I’d go to Hellie
    And those I care if I should dare to do it again

    Bought a steak, and Greta blamed me
    Drove the car, and Greta shamed me
    For coffee smokes hobbies and jokes and alcohol too.

    Angry Greta, media-made
    Where would I be without you
    Soon as you blink I think I’ll slink from view

  83. Mother Lode

    Whoa! We’re up to 80,000 years now – that means it’s doubled over the last decade or so.

    I expect that we will, within the next decade, start hearing anthropologists arguing the ‘Out of Australia’ theory of human evolution.

  84. RobK

    ‘Out of Australia’ theory of human evolution.
    Or “out of Gondwana land….”

  85. Mother Lode

    “What we witnessed on the part of the president was a meltdown, sad to say,” House Speaker Nancy Pelosi told reporters on the White House driveway after meeting with the president. She later told reporters that she believes “we have to pray for his health because this was a very serious meltdown.”

    So a Democrat characterises Trump’s behaviour as having a melt down and it is reported as fact. After years of accusing him of crimes and deception – none of which they have been able to make stick – and insisting they they have determined he should be impeached – even though they have not been able to identify anything for which to impeach him – they are taking Pelosi at her word regarding Trump.

    Gawd the media everywhere is everywhere stupid.

    University qualified to talk about events but thoroughly without qualification to make sense of the things they talk about.

  86. Nelson Kidd-Players

    Arky #3186237, posted on October 17, 2019 at 12:42 am

    One of the first albums I bought with my own money.
    Love over Gold.

    I taped it off the radio. 3MMM (or was it still EON FM?) played the whole album. TDK D90. Managed to append Going Home on the same side. Stands up way better than some of my mix tapes.

  87. Cardimona….great piece. You’re on fire….I love “smugnorant wokerati”….definitely one for the Cat Lexicon.

  88. Nelson Kidd-Players

    Two sons are working on, among other things, trying to suss out the finer points of Sultans of Swing, among others. Yet to get a handle on the outro. I suggested Private Investigations as an assignment, but am yet to hear it ringing out from the bedroom.

  89. Zatara

    Yes, Dale Wakefield (NT News, 16/10), blackouts are unacceptable but they’re going to become a regular occurrence if the smugnorant wokerati get their insidiously destructive way.

    See California where citizens died during a massive blackout which was caused on purpose by the State govt “for fire safety reasons”.

    Um, California has been widely electrified since about 1917. Malfunctioning electrical transmission equipment has never been listed as a primary cause of forest fires there.

    This was no safety emergency. Like the supposed drought in California it was entirely government made.

  90. Nelson Kidd-Players

    Who remembers the XY ZOO? Arky might.

  91. Nelson Kidd-Players

    Cool Dire Staits factoid.

    Apparently the lines about Harry and Guitar George in Sultans of Swing are a reference to Harry Vanda and George Young, an epicentre of Australian music.

  92. John Constantine

    https://techcrunch.com/2019/10/16/avoid-waiting-on-hold/

    Browder hopes that with time, companies and governments will make all these chores easier for everyone. To avoid putting itself out of a job, DoNotPay is constantly looking for new annoyances to eliminate. “I’m from the U.K. America seems to be a pay-to-play society. The more money you have, the more rights you have,” Browder concludes. But those rights could be restored for all by building a robot lawyer that’s affordable to everyone.

    Building robot lawyers to cull the herd of legal vultures.

    Doing God’s work.

  93. The Barking Toad

    From the paywalled Hun……..
    A second solar installer has been banned from the Andrews Government’s signature $1.3 billion rebate scheme, after facing prosecution by the state’s safety watchdog.

    Geelong company Sandarra Electrics was slapped with a $120,000 fine for failing to provide a safe worksite in the Geelong Magistrates’ Court this week.

    The court heard anonymous tip-off was made to WorkSafe saying two workers had been installing panels on a double storey roof with only one person wearing a harness in Belmont in 2017.

    But surely the greater sin was not wearing Hi-Viz clobber.

    Wonder if they were a competitor to a bruvva sponsored company.

  94. Top Ender

    Good going Cardimona.

    Meanwhile, I got rejected at the Oz. So fired off:

    Subject: Query on your disparate moderation standards
    Date: 17 October 2019 at 10:30:31 am ACST

    To: [email protected]

    So my comment:

    We’re suddenly up to 80,000 years now?

    Story: Nova clocks up another first

    gets rejected, but these comments get through:

    Ian
    17 HOURS AGO
    (Edited)
    Ho hum. Here we go again. Give us a break from all of this. And now it’s 80,000 years of history.

    Rod
    12 HOURS AGO
    Interesting isn’t it? Apparently indigenous Australians arrived here before homo sapiens migrated out of Africa.

    Not surprising The Australian subscription numbers are falling. Why should I renew?

    Top Ender

    Will be interesting to see the results. I suspect different moderators are Woke to different degrees.

  95. Shy Ted

    struth started with the limericks, so
    There was a young lady called Greta
    She’s your moral superior and better
    Her words, they will scare you
    When she says “how dare you!”
    And you’re not good enough to have met her.

  96. Bruce in WA

    My ear worm contribution for the day.

    You’re welcome.

  97. John64

    The Olympic gold medallist opted to wear no shoes for the unveiling of the painting at Parliament House, in what marked the first time an artwork in the historical memorials collection has been done by an indigenous artist.

    With ochre on her face and her feet planted firmly on the earth, Ms Peris said viewers would see “the true me in my entirety” in the painting.

    I trust all those who attended were offered a cuppa and a Tim Tam.

  98. Some History

    But… but… it’s to Save™ the planet.
    If loving you is wrong, I don’t want to be right. Right!

    Thus spake Greta™ Loonborg:

    Greta Thunberg condemns ‘unlawful’ police ban on Extinction Rebellion climate change protest

    Greta Thunberg has called on Extinction Rebellion demonstrators to defy a police order banning them from protesting across London.
    The climate change activist spoke out before the group won the go-ahead to take legal action over the order, which has been condemned by human rights groups as unlawful.
    “If standing up against the climate and ecological breakdown and for humanity is against the rules then the rules must be broken,” Ms Thunberg wrote on her Instagram account.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/environment/greta-thunberg-extinction-rebellion-protests-police-ban-climate-change-london-a9158191.html

  99. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Remains of Captain Matthew Flinders – the man credited with naming Australia – will be reburied in his home village after being found in London during HS2 dig

    Remains of Captain Matthew Flinders found at St James’s burial ground, Euston
    HS2 exec Mark Thurston said he can be buried in his home village in Lincolnshire
    His final resting place, over 200 years after death, to be at church near Splading
    The move has been supported by the Church of England’s Diocese of Lincoln

    Daily Mail

  100. Rex Mango

    Shy Ted, great version of In the Ghetto & Bruce, His Latest Flame rocks.

  101. pete m

    I read a transcript of trump rally.

    Lots of zingers like “little bruce springsteen”.

    Best part was his talking of meeting family of dead soldiers at air force base. Very moving and best defence for him over Syria.

  102. Bruce of Newcastle

    Love over Gold.

    I got to see Telegraph Road done live, in one of the 3 only music gigs I’ve ever been to (not counting stuff like Webber/Rice). TR is still a great one to turn up and breathe in.

    While on the Straits here’s one for Putin’s green guys in Syria:

  103. Some History

    Justine TruDOH

    We’ve taken concrete steps to fight climate change, and we’ll keep taking them. Conservatives won’t. The choice is yours on Monday. Choose a solid plan to protect our environment.

    https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/1184613364154195969?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

  104. Some History

    Barry Bummer endorses TruDOH: “The world needs his progressive leadership”.

    https://imgur.com/5CpJ0dc

  105. notafan

    missed this

    did council vote up the motion?

    A Melbourne City councillor has proposed a motion that the council write to all the Catholic churches in the city, asking if they will abide by Victoria’s new mandatory reporting law.

    The motion, put forward by Nic Frances Gilley, will be voted on by the council on Tuesday.

    Council motion calls for signs at churches warning of dangers within

  106. notafan

    We’ve taken concrete steps to fight climate change, and we’ll keep taking them. Conservatives won’t. The choice is yours on Monday. Choose a solid plan to protect our environment.

    please Canadians

    vote no to extinction!

  107. mh

    Rand Paul attempts to educate the harridans on Socialism

  108. struth

    Someone could put up a sign in front of the council saying danger, anti Christian, parasite, commos inside.

  109. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    ‘War is a result of climate change’: commentator’s ridiculous call The MockerFollow @Oz_Mocker

    26 minutes ago October 17, 2019
    25 Comments

    Well that was some revelation. According to social commentator, columnist, and feminist Jane Caro AM, climate change is responsible for starting wars. Speaking on 3AW last week in support of Swedish teenager Greta Thunberg’s nomination for the Nobel Peace Prize, she told an incredulous Neil Mitchell: “There are many people who believe that, for example, the Syrian conflict is the result of the collapse of the wet season due to climate change,” leading in turn to a lack of crops and food, mass migration, and one of the bloodiest wars of the his century.

    “So we’re already seeing war as a result of climate change,” she concluded. Pressed on the issue, she quickly shifted from the definitive to weasel words, stating “It’s not broadly accepted, but it’s certainly arguable”. Asked why Thunberg should be awarded the prize, Caro stated that people had, in great numbers, “marched peacefully and with a sort of joyous hope” as a result of her actions.

    You would hope there is a little more to being awarded the prize than feel-good gestures and the number of Facebook likes, but then again in 2009 Barack Obama took that honour because, hey, black president. Like Thunberg, he was something of a climate mystic. After securing the Democratic nomination in 2008, this humble man declared “This was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal.” Thunberg, conversely, is more your angry oracle type, as evident by her “How dare you” outburst at the United Nations climate summit last month. In any event it was another black leader, Ethiopian prime minister Abiy Ahmed, who was awarded the prize, although unlike Obama he has done something to deserve it.

    As to Caro’s expertise in climate-induced conflict, we need only scan her Twitter feed. “FFS!,” she angrily tweeted last year in response to someone who disputed her pronouncements. “I am a cattle breeder and part owner of a wine company! Don’t tell me about climate change.”

    From the Oz. I do keep asking about “peak stupidity….”

  110. Some History

    A Melbourne City councillor has proposed a motion that the council write to all the Catholic churches in the city, asking if they will abide by Victoria’s new mandatory reporting law.
    The motion, put forward by Nic Frances Gilley, will be voted on by the council on Tuesday.
    Council motion calls for signs at churches warning of dangers within


    On Friday, lord mayor Silly Crapp said she supported the motion, which she said reflected the expectations of the community regarding mandatory reporting.
    “As a city we absolutely have high expectations of places being safe, especially for The Children™,” Ms Crapp told Radio 3AW.
    “Our main aim is to make sure we have safe places, particulary for The Children™, throughout our city.”

  111. Mother Lode

    “I am a cattle breeder

    She insists on being taken out for dinner and a movie first.

  112. calli

    Part owner of a wine company?

    That I can believe.

  113. I do keep asking about “peak stupidity….”

    It’s a hockey stick curve.

    We’re all gunna be boiled alive in a pot of peak stupidity.

  114. Nelson Kidd-Players

    Rita poitned me to Tim Blair’s piece. Unpaywalled, it seems.

    Do Not Joke About the Holy Climate Warriors
    Tim Blair, The Daily Telegraph
    October 15, 2019 11:15am

    Media Watch host Paul Barry is more offended by Kerri-Anne Kennerley’s joke about using climate protesters as speed humps than he is about cities being gridlocked by ridiculous Thunbergian gluebacks:

    Yes, run them over. What a joke. Except it’s hardly funny.

    Stop laughing, you very bad people. Sensitive Paul rounded up other protest mockers for admonishment:

    I think it’s time they got some new material and perhaps stopped making jokes about killing protesters. Because some nutter out there might just take them up on it.

    The only nutters blindly taking action based on comical exaggerations are the protesters. The Guardian’s Amanda Meade, who is not bitter at all over her departure years ago from News Corp, is also in no mood for climate japery:

    The Daily Telegraph blogger Tim Blair kept score of the arrests in each city, as if it were a sporting competition.

    How dare I! Meanwhile, speaking of scores:

    The climate change protests that caused havoc in Melbourne cost police at least $3 million and pulled officers away from crucial road safety and domestic violence work.

    North West Metro Region Commander Tim Hansen said a total of 16,000 hours was dedicated to policing the Extinction Rebellion activists.

    State Liberal leader Michael O’Brien wants to know why protesters haven’t been asked to cover costs:

    “We deserve to know how much extra police money has been wasted on babysitting these protesters. And why aren’t they being sent the bill the same way as a lot of conservative speakers are sent bills when there are protests?”

    But according to Hansen, charges only apply if there is a certain “level of commerciality”:

    “This is clearly a public community protest in public space. We are resourced and financed to deploy in those circumstances,” he said.

    Victoria is a garbage state.

    And from the comments:

    Colin
    1 day ago

    charges only apply if there is a certain “level of commerciality”

    Check out Jo Nova
    http://joannenova.com.au/2019/10/extinction-rebellion-are-run-by-paid-activists-the-200000-grassroots-movement/

    How Extinction Rebellion climate change zealots…..are paid £400 a week to bring mayhem to our streets

    So there is likely to be a level of commerciality.

  115. She insists on being taken out for dinner and a movie first.

    Hehe.

    Udderly stupid cattle breeder.

  116. Mother Lode

    A Melbourne City councillor has proposed a motion that the council write to all the Catholic churches in the city, asking if they will abide by Victoria’s new mandatory reporting law

    Do these politicians have even the slightest notion that there could be any limit to their power? Or, like the intertwined nature of matter and space, do they believe that as soon as they conceive of something their authority is produced?

  117. Some History

    From the Oz. I do keep asking about “peak stupidity….”

    Carosene is an “all rounder”. She can speak equally incompetently on a wide range of issues. She couldn’t be more than comfortably in 2nd gear at the moment. Expect far greater stupidity… top-gear crap… from Caro.

    https://imgur.com/BC0S3Aq

  118. Andreas

    Council motion calls for signs at churches warning of dangers within

    From the Victorian Human Rights Commission:

    The Racial and Religious Tolerance Act 2001 took effect on 1 January 2002 and prohibits behaviour that incites or encourages hatred, serious contempt, revulsion or severe ridicule against another person or group of people because of their race and/or religion.

    Also:

    Behaviour that is likely to be seen as racial or religious vilification includes:

    publishing claims that a racial or religious group is involved in serious crimes without any proof

  119. calli

    Now hang on just a moment Mzzzz Caro.

    Aren’t cattle meant to be one of the drivers of (shudder) Climate Change? And you breed the things?

    Shame on you, you Gaia destroying hypocrite.

  120. Zatara

    Part owner of a wine company?

    Likely not the one that sticks a cork in it.

  121. Nelson Kidd-Players

    I’ve never taken a cow out to dinner. I prefer to meet them once I get there.

  122. BrettW

    Correction : should read as “Whine” company. Caro’s typo clearly.

  123. feelthebern

    The AFR today has a column by Ms Steggall.
    First paragraph below.

    My predecessor in Warringah likes to tell the United Kingdom how it should deal with Brexit. I am more interested in learning from the UK on how it reached bipartisan consensus on climate change and set up an effective national framework to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and adapt all sectors of the UK economy to the impacts of climate change.

  124. Some History

    Jane Carosene was released from hospital following treatment for some minor injuries:

    https://imgur.com/LZb2bra

  125. feelthebern

    & Joe Aston has been writing on & off this over the last fortnight about the NDIS.
    No other media outlets are picking up the rorting at an executive level.
    Looks like the NDIS joins White Ribbon on the list of organisations that must never be criticised.

  126. Mother Lode

    Likely not the one that sticks a cork in it.

    Are you going to talk about cask wine?

    Honestly people! This is not what the Cat is about – tortured references to getting your hands on Jane’s box! It is not that kind of blog, surely.

    I mean, seriously. Not even with a ten-foot barge pole.

  127. Nelson Kidd-Players

    Cask wine or whine cask?

  128. Bruce of Newcastle

    The AFR today has a column by Ms Steggall.

    You’d think an alpine skier might know about snow, and how colder weather makes more of it not warmer weather.

    Well she’ll have plenty of the stuff to play on if she decides to return to her old profession.

  129. RobK

    Not even with a ten-foot barge pole.
    You have a ten foot barge pole?
    Skite.

  130. C.L.

    Couple run into KEVNI at Paris cafe.
    He buys their drinks. That was nice.
    Says he’s doing a PhD at Oxford.

  131. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Hazmatic
    #3185456, posted on October 16, 2019 at 12:00 am

    Thank you

  132. Steve trickler

    She is excellent.



  133. The Barking Toad

    That’s a very braying image SH @ 01:15pm – and appropriate

  134. C.L.

    Prayer request:

    Donald J. [email protected]

    Nancy Pelosi needs help fast! There is either something wrong with her “upstairs,” or she just plain doesn’t like our great Country. She had a total meltdown in the White House today. It was very sad to watch. Pray for her, she is a very sick person!

  135. Top Ender

    Well, got a quick response from the Oz:

    Thanks for getting in touch … I’ve reinstated and published your comment and will have a chat to the moderators. I don’t think there’s any harm in wading into the debate over how far back Aboriginal history extends in Australia (my understanding is it’s at least 60,000 years!), particularly given the 80,000 number was raised by one of the subjects of the story!

    However, I think the comment you pointed out from Rod should have been rejected as an obviously falsity (home sapiens migrated out of Africa close to 2 million years ago!).

    All the best,
    DANIEL SANKEY
    Digital Editor

  136. Percy Popinjay

    tortured references to getting your hands on Jane’s box of Chateau cardboard

    In the interests of clarity and to prevent readers losing their lunch.

  137. Some History

    Kevin Dudd – from the archives:

    https://imgur.com/eErjUtT

  138. Knuckle Dragger

    The dead hand of Gummint, interfering with the also-dead:

    ‘A draft Burial and Cremation Bill would introduce a penalty of $31,000 and a possible two-year prison sentence for burials currently carried out on country outside cemeteries without government permission, if it is passed in NT Parliament.

    ‘Yolngu senior elder and Member for Nhulunbuy (Gove) Yingiya Mark Guyula told the Government, ‘This is none of your business.’

    And he’s right.

    (Paywalled NT News.)

  139. Percy Popinjay

    Joe Aston has been writing on & off this over the last fortnight about the NDIS.

    The NDIA (the bureaucratic abomination maladministering the NDIS) should be shut down. It should never have existed in the first place in anything like its current incarnation.

  140. Knuckle Dragger

    And in other death-related news, a separate and perhaps premature NT News headline:

    ‘Serial killer Milat now in grave condition’

  141. Woolfe

    Top Ender,
    On appeal I have normally had rejected comments reinstated by Daniel. If I have comments rejected I cc him on the email. I also point out comments that should be rejected to him.

  142. struth

    In Victoria, this is a fact.
    Police charge people who are engaged in peaceful activity, not protesting, not causing disruption, not being violent, a massive fee to keep the peace handling people who are paid to be violent and protest, and cause disruption, on the basis that the former was doing something “commercial”

    So if I’m at a road blocked by gluebacks , I get the bill for the police coming to remove them from the road, as I was driving a commercial vehicle…being commercial?
    Tell me, oh, politicised left wing stormtrooper Vicplod, how the fuck do you sleep at night with logic like that?
    It’s exactly the same thing.
    Exactly.

    So I’ve paid for you with tax, and then I pay again when somebody else is violent, disturbing the peace or generally being the radical feral left, because I’m a nearby peaceful business.

  143. Cardimona

    (home sapiens migrated out of Africa close to 2 million years ago!).

    All the best,
    DANIEL SANKEY

    Sounds like Daniel hasn’t a clue..
    Even Wiki says…

    The age of speciation of H. sapiens out of ancestral H. erectus (or an intermediate species such as Homo antecessor) is estimated to have been roughly 350,000 years ago.

  144. notafan

    ‘A draft Burial and Cremation Bill would introduce a penalty of $31,000 and a possible two-year prison sentence for burials currently carried out on country outside cemeteries without government permission, if it is passed in NT Parliament.

    perhaps

    but I wouldn’t be happy if people were doing random burials in Victoria, particularly if they did not use coffins

    can be serious health hazard to the living

  145. Top Ender

    Krudd’s still gilding the lily:

    ‘He only started liking olives at age 50,’ Kapinny said on their Reddit post.

    ‘He’s currently completing a PhD at Oxford studying the life of Xi Jinping.

    ‘And he spends his weekends often at Bunnings when he’s in Australia.’

    From CL’s link above.

    Remember when Kevin set up the photo opportunities?

    Wading through the floods in Qld.

    Emerging with the razor nick in Darwin.

    You ain’t fooling anyone mate, except yourself, your mirror, and a few besotted fans.

  146. Top Ender

    Cardimona….shhhh!

    We need all the help we can get!

  147. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Victoria’s top cop says police were ‘caught in middle’ of red shirts rort scandal

    Remy Varga
    Reporter
    @RemyVarga
    10:54AM October 17, 2019

    Victoria’s top cop says police resources shouldn’t be used to investigate political referrals and says detectives were “caught in the middle” of the red shirts rort scandal.

    The 18-month investigation into whether 21 Labor MPs, including six ministers, had misused taxpayer dollars to partially fund “red shirt” campaign staff during the 2014 election failed to produce any charges. It was referred to police by the opposition.

    Victoria Police Chief Commissioner Graham Ashton said on Thursday police decided not to lay charges after following advice from the Office of Public Prosecutions.

    “That’s a police decision and we rely on advice when we make that decision,” he told 3AW.

    “That’s why we seek the experts advice on it from the OPP.”

    Commissioner Ashton said he wished police resources weren’t tied up in political investigations, which resulted in “no-win situations” for the force.

    “If there was another process around which they could be dealt with, we’d be all in favour of that because what you have in these cases is, as you say, there’s politics around them,” he said. “When the eventual outcome happened [sic], it seems like it’s the police’s fault and people want to be critical of the police for it when the police are caught in the middle of having to do your job. It’s a real no-win situation for police.”

    Commissioner Ashton said the Independent Broad-based Anti-corruption Commission did not have the jurisdiction to investigate similar complaints and said he would be in favour of a different process separate from police.

    “If there was another process, not just in Victoria but across the country … particularly during elections [when] complaints can come and surface … if there was some other process we’d be in all in favour of it,” he said.

    Both major parties have referred the other to police for investigation. Four months before the 2018 state election, Deputy Premier James Merlino referred 10 Coalition MPs to police over alleged rorts of staffing for political campaigning. After 10 months of investigation, police found no offences had been committed.

    An Ombudsman’s investigation into the Labor red shirt rort scandal cost taxpayers $744,000, while the government spent more than $600,000 on various legal battles to try to prevent the Ombudsman’s probe going ahead.

    From the Oz. Would somebody be good enough to tell me what Victoria Police do with their time?

  148. Percy Popinjay

    (homo FitzSimians migrated out of Africa close to eleventy gazillion years ago!).

    All the best,
    DANIEL SANKEY

  149. Tintarella di Luna

    The NDIA (the bureaucratic abomination maladministering the NDIS) should be shut down. It should never have existed in the first place in anything like its current incarnation.

    The NDIA is the Frankenstien creation of benighted bureaucrats tasked by Gillard and Rudd to make life worse for people who are severely disabled – – the horrors it puts people through speaks to what an abomination it is – and as this is Carers Week – what families of permanently and severely disabled people are put through beggars belief

  150. The Barking Toad

    Would somebody be good enough to tell me what Victoria Police do with their time?

    Crucify the Cardinal.

  151. Mother Lode

    blocked by gluebacks

    Please please please please let this become an common name for the pillocks.

  152. RobK

    is estimated to have been roughly 350,000 years ago.
    They didn’t all leave at once.

  153. struth

    “If there was another process around which they could be dealt with, we’d be all in favour of that because what you have in these cases is, as you say, there’s politics around them,” he said. “When the eventual outcome happened [sic], it seems like it’s the police’s fault and people want to be critical of the police for it when the police are caught in the middle of having to do your job. It’s a real no-win situation for police.”

    Translated, he gets his arse kicked if anything is found.

    People being critical of the police gets him down?
    Fatty pull the other one.
    People in this case, mean his labor party and union bosses.

  154. dover_beach

    A Melbourne City councillor has proposed a motion that the council write to all the Catholic churches in the city, asking if they will abide by Victoria’s new mandatory reporting law

    What a shitshow this is fast becoming.

    Cr Frances Gilley said the city council had a duty of care to ensure children were safe and that it was “appropriate to advise children, and those caring for them, of places where they may not be safe”.

    In the light of the Archbishop’s comments about mandatory reporting, Cr Frances Gilley said this included churches such as St Patrick’s Cathedral.

    Hang on. Is he suggesting that a priest wouldn’t call the police if he found a child being abused on the premises? Or is he suggesting that a penitent confessing to a priest is a present danger to any children also at that church? Or is he confusing the two in order to engage in sectarian hatred of Catholics? I note he is an Anglican priest.

  155. RobK

    particularly if they did not use coffins
    can be serious health hazard to the living

    Dial before you dig. Im sure it works in the NT as good as anywhere.

  156. Some History

    ‘He only started liking olives at age 50,’ Kapinny said on their Reddit post.

    Apparently olives go well with ear wax. Num… num… num.

    Reddit user Kapinny and a friend were on holiday in Paris when they stumbled across Mr Rudd at a café drinking a glass of wine

    Rudd was lying on the pavement still able, though, to hold his glass of wine upright. No-one was injured in the stumble.

    ‘It was lovely to meet you guys,’ Mr Rudd said.
    ‘Hope you have a great trip.’

    If Dudd spends any more time lying on pavements, they may indeed have a great trip.

  157. struth

    People get buried anywhere in Arnhem Land, in the back yard, very common.
    Out on the open community areas.
    Don’t worry about diseases etc, the dead dogs, and barely living ones, the Rubbish, vermin and all manner of shit you’re constantly avoiding each step, if you visit, say, Maningrida, (get a permit if you have white skin) means dead bodies under the ground are the least you need to worry about.

  158. Cardimona:

    …is estimated to have been roughly 350,000 years ago.

    So what was the mob who appeared on the scene at the end of the last ice age, 13k years ago?
    If it was homo sapiens, then what the hell are the Aboriginals – homo neanderthals?
    And no, I’m not being sarcastic. This needs to be thought about.

  159. feelthebern

    DB, if the stupid Libs in Victoria weren’t so in bed with the ALP & Greens already, they would have demanded the legislation include all reportings of child abuse, not just the confessional.

  160. Knuckle Dragger

    The greatest beneficiaries of the current state of affairs, nota, are the camp dogs in the more remote NT areas like Epenarra and the patches south of Lajamanu. And, of course, the central desert country.

    The first couple of times it’s a bit disconcerting to see two or more campies having a box on over a human femur one of them dug up, but after that you get used to it.

    Hey, at least they’re buried. Sometimes.

  161. notafan

    Would somebody be good enough to tell me what Victoria Police do with their time?

    fit up underworld figures

  162. notafan

    I understand what is going on KD

    nice to be able to bury people without pesky white colonial overlords sticking their noses in with awkward questions and stuff

  163. feelthebern

    How bad are the Melb crims lawyers?
    Considering Gobbo, every lawyer should be trying to get their customers sprung.
    From what I can see, only one crim is out.
    Stinks of a rort.

  164. Tintarella di Luna

    My predecessor in Warringah likes to tell the United Kingdom how it should deal with Brexit. I am more interested in learning from the UK on how it reached bipartisan consensus on climate change and set up an effective national framework to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and adapt all sectors of the UK economy to the impacts of climate change.

    Gee that’s a long sentence, I wonder if Paul Ooosting wrote it for her after Fitzsimmons had pinched all the commas

  165. notafan

    Dover

    yes it is just an extraordinary claim

    still if it keeps bad mannered tourists out of St Patrick’s it might be a good thing

  166. feelthebern

    Considering Zali is one of the clearest cases of CTE in Australia, I doubt she wrote the column.

  167. Mitch M.

    The NDIA (the bureaucratic abomination maladministering the NDIS) should be shut down. It should never have existed in the first place in anything like its current incarnation.

    There was no need for another pack of bureaucrats determining the best way to help the disabled. Existing specialists in various fields(social workers, psychologists, occupational therapists etc) could have been brought together to develop an action plan that could have implemented within the existing structures.

  168. struth

    Aboriginal people and their differing cultures now goes back 80 thousand years?
    All of our Ancestors apparently walked out of Africa much earlier than that.
    So unlike the rest of us, who’s ancestors all go back to the first homo sapiens, 80 ooo yrs is when the aboriginal culture stopped developing and advancing, until their meetings with Trepang fisherman , the dutch , etc a few hundred years ago, all who had ancestors just as ancient as the aborigines.

    When you talk bullshit about continuous culture, and it’s purely stone age, I wouldn’t be bagging about it.

    Lets be honest.
    No one, no one, is living the same culture as they did a few hundred years ago, let alone 80 thousand years ago, because like the normal people they are, (no matter what they’re self appointed racist representatives say), they don’t want to.
    Who would?

  169. feelthebern

    During the election campaign, Tony should have pulled a cunning stunt like demanding Zali have a MRI on her head.
    Tony’s boxing & rugby hasn’t impacted him like landing on her head impacted Zali.

  170. Mother Lode

    So what was the mob who appeared on the scene at the end of the last ice age, 13k years ago?

    Just one of the waves of homo sapiens.

    Neanderthals moved into Europe and part of the Levant, I believe. They were prevented from migrating further by fundamentalist homo erectus who would charge into their midst with flint spearheads strapped all over their skins, screaming out ‘Erg Ergbah!’, leap onto the ground lacerating themselves to shreds. The first attempt at suicide bombing.

    The Neanderthals went no further because they guessed, judging from the bizarre spectacle, that things were pretty messed up back there.

  171. pete m

    NDIS has expanded far beyond its original remit / design. Was intended for half the DSP recipients, about 400,000 max, with exclusions in psych conditions for example. All eroded away.

    Next, the level of care assessed is extraordinary.

    I know 1 person who has a mild brain condition – still works 4 days per week, fully independent home and self care – just needed some shoes /orthotics for her gait as it drags the shoes and she goes through a fair few.

    Now imagine you are assessing her needs.

    Say $1-2K tops for shoes and orthotics.

    NDIS found she had a need for a $23,000 annual care plan.

    They are arranging a socialisation assistant for 4 hours per week to help her socialise, amongst other stuff.

    When her parents pass then the plan will increase for home needs – circa $50K p.a.

    Half the country will be employed providing services, managing services or rorting services to NDIS.

  172. struth

    Would somebody be good enough to tell me what Victoria Police do with their time?

    You need to ask?
    They still have terrifying drivers there.
    It’s caused by climate change.
    Everyone rushing about now there are only 12 years left.
    Some have been caught doing 102 in a 100 zone.
    No, it’s true.

  173. Tintarella di Luna

    Cardimona love your work, magnificent wordsmithing, what’s your anvil made of?

  174. The Barking Toad

    Half the country will be employed providing services, managing services or rorting services to NDIS.

    Already seeing tradies/gardeners with their NDIS registration advertised on the ute.

    Thank you Ranga who should be doing time.

  175. Zatara

    Cr Frances Gilley said the city council had a duty of care to ensure children were safe and that it was “appropriate to advise children, and those caring for them, of places where they may not be safe”.

    So, being of the clergy himself, albeit of another gang, he’s already posted one of those signs outside of his church.

    Right?

    Or are we still playing the fooking silly game where it’s only the Catholics who abuse children?

  176. johanna

    Talk about the triumph of hope over experience:

    The leading solar car competing in the World Solar Challenge has burst into flames, forcing the team out of the race for the first time in 20 years.
    The solar car — from the Vattenfall Solar Team — caught alight on the Stuart Highway, just south of Port Augusta this morning, just 263 kilometres from the Adelaide finish line.

    [ … ]

    Solar Team Twente’s car was one of three solar cars forced off the road yesterday due to strong winds, with one driver taken to hospital as a precaution.

    [ … ]

    There are 44 teams, made up of mostly university students, from more than 30 countries competing in this year’s challenge.

    The teams set off from Darwin on Sunday on the 3,000 kilometre trek to Adelaide.

    The race has been held biennially since 1987, promoting sustainability and solar technology.

    So, after more than 30 years of R & D, solar cars blow away in strong winds and burn to the ground for unexplained reasons. And, if you look at them, they are about as practical for the ordinary punter as an ashtray on a motorbike, being so low to the ground you practically have to lie down in them. And, they never mention the cost.

    You would think that after all this expenditure of time and money someone would realise that this idea is never going to work. But as we know, in the land of ruinables, fantasy trumps reality every time.

  177. Beachcomber

    C.L. at 1:46 pm
    Couple run into KEVNI at Paris cafe.

    Some of the comments on this article hit the mark.

    When you have to pay someone to talk to you….says something about you Kevin…….!!!!!\Worst PM EVER!!!!!!!!

    No he did not pay for your drinks, the Australian taxpayer paid for them, ask about his $50 billion NBN disaster.

    let me guess he was talking about the 900 dollars of liberals money that he freely gave to everyone?

    Why did I read that!

    They pretend to be on same level as the common man but are so so far removed

    A PhD at Oxford how jolly for him

    As long as you were not his air hostess

    So Rudd spends his weekends in Bunnings. Right. I’d have backed away and found another table.

  178. Steve trickler

    Hahaaa! [ Burt Reynolds laugh ]



  179. notafan

    An Anglican priest for 23 years, Cr Frances Gilley was executive director of the Brotherhood of St Laurence and was himself a victim of childhood sexual abuse.

    in the UK and with this vagueness probably by a relative but hey Catholics!

    profile

  180. Tintarella di Luna

    I know 1 person who has a mild brain condition – still works 4 days per week, fully independent home and self care – just needed some shoes /orthotics for her gait as it drags the shoes and she goes through a fair few.

    I heard of an elderly couple who have a disabled daughter in her 50s who needs a pair of special shoes twice a year – they would get the local Asian bootmaker to make them and they costs $250.00 a pair and had been making the shoes for her for many many years.

    But the NDIS would not allow the family to continue to use the services of this bootmaker because 1. They did not self-manage their daughter’s plan 2. because the bootmaker was not a registered service provider for the NDIS — However, if they self-managed their daughter’s plan they could use the bootmaker with no qualms whatsoever — what did it cost to have an NDIS registered bootmaker provide the shoes – almost $900.00 a pair

  181. Mother Lode

    The leading solar car competing in the World Solar Challenge has burst into flames,

    Ah…external combustion.

  182. notafan

    old scandal
    would have been convicted if he had crossed the Tiber

    Photo becomes a crucial piece of evidence

  183. Mitch M

    There was no need for another pack of bureaucrats determining the best way to help the disabled. Existing specialists in various fields(social workers, psychologists, occupational therapists etc) could have been brought together to develop an action plan that could have implemented within the existing structures.

    Gillard was a Fabian Socialist. This is their signature modus operandi – bankrupt the host society with programs that can never be wound back, use the peoples money to bribe them with, and take advantage of the resulting chaos to install a Socialist government..

  184. Nelson Kidd-Players

    I thought the original remit of the NDIS was to skewer the Liberals at the election.

  185. Arnost

    They were prevented from migrating further by fundamentalist homo erectus who would charge into their midst with flint spearheads strapped all over their skins, screaming out ‘Erg Ergbah!’

    LOL …

    After the travails with the fundamentalist homo erectus they met a bunch of Homo DennistheMenacovans whose well intentioned advice to occupy the Australian subcontinent backfired as they forgot to include instructions on how to exploit the mineral wealthy subcontinent…

  186. notafan

    Tinta

    obvious solution was to pay for them out of her dsp

    no need to involve ndis at all

  187. RobK

    So, after more than 30 years of R & D, solar cars …..
    mostly all use axial flux motors. You can pick one up on ebay around $13k for a 5kW frameless motor .
    The technical challenge is a worthy one. The hopes of a practical solar car are demonstrably a long way off.

  188. Nelson Kidd-Players

    Aboriginal people and their differing cultures now goes back 80 thousand years?

    You obviously do not appreciate the level of scholarship they are applying to their history, Struth.

  189. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    ‘He’s currently completing a PhD at Oxford studying the life of Xi Jinping.

    as one does, with one’s heroes

  190. cohenite

    The first people to come here were the Negritos, about 40k bya; the second lot were the Murrayians who arrived about 23k bya and promptly eat most of the Negritos. The current mob, the Carpentarians, arrived about 15k bya, just before the land bridges were drowned, eat the Murrayians, finished off the mega-fauna and regressed to the point when Cook arrived all they could do was make fires which they have been doing for millennia changing the place from basically a rain-forest into the semi-arid country it is today.

    Everything said about the 44th nations is basically bullshit.

  191. feelthebern

    socialisation assistant

    Is that code for a sex worker to visit an NDIS participant?

  192. Sean

    The media seems to be wetting the bed over a ‘forecast’ form the IMF. How accurate are forecasts again?

  193. Top Ender

    Rudd spends his weekends in Bunnings

    When you think about it, what a feeble effort.

    Rudd and his entourage – his paid crawlers and pretend “staff” who write his “press releases” and “advise” him, would have made this up.

    Then they would have pushed the boss out with words of encouragement, and the arranged sycophants would have trotted up for the “chat” and the paid photographer would have arranged himself nicely, and off it would all go.

    This is the best they could come up with?

    “Rudd spends his weekends in Bunnings.”

    What genius thought of that?

    Mrs TE has a gentle dig now and again that at least once a weekend a visit is necessary to Bunnings.

    It often is, at least every two, for their stupid irrigation fittings designed to go brittle and break after a year or two. And so on.

    But what normal Aussie male (or female) seriously needs to spend more than 30 minutes every other weekend or so in the hardware store?

    If this is how the Kruddster demonstrates his understanding of the everyday human it’s no wonder he’s isolated himself in Oxford.

    Although why they should deserve him is probably starting to mystify them.

  194. 1735099

    cohenite
    #3186566, posted on October 17, 2019 at 3:27 pm
    The first people to come here were the Negritos, about 40k bya; the second lot were the Murrayians who arrived about 23k bya and promptly eat most of the Negritos

    In the interests of calling out Right wing lunacy –
    Here is a clear example of classic hard Right thought.
    One group is identified and given sub-human characteristics – “and promptly ate” etc.
    That’s some distance along the continuum that leads to the gas chambers.

  195. The first people to come here were the Negritos …

    Nah.
    At this place the first people to come here were the O’Flahertys, followed by the Johnsons and then the McKenzies.
    I have documentation!

  196. 8th Dan

    The NDIS was waved through by Tony Abbott. It has proved to be another example of Coalition mismanagement.

  197. Mother Lode

    Fuck off, Septimus.

  198. RobK

    That’s some distance along the continuum that leads to the gas chambers.
    Correct. All happened on the same planet. Same species. Next.

  199. cohenite

    In the interests of calling out Right wing lunacy –
    Here is a clear example of classic hard Right thought.
    One group is identified and given sub-human characteristics – “and promptly ate” etc.
    That’s some distance along the continuum that leads to the gas chambers.

    Fuck off troll; take it up with Manning Clark, Windschuttle, Blainey, Josephine Flood etc. It’s uncontroversial, it happened.

    The real issue is the avoidance of truth for ideological reasons, Western society is bad is the left’s position so it nominates victims of the West, aboriginals, RoP, the climate etc to justify their hatred of the West and plan to replace it with communism. The real crime is the left don’t care about these victims, they’re merely tools to further the agenda and they don’t want the problems of the victims, real or invented, to be solved because that would undermine the justification of their narrative. Embellishing aboriginal history is just another aspect of the left’s methodology.

    I think you’re loathsome.

  200. Mother Lode

    I just had a quick squiz at an article in the AFR headlined something along the lines of “What do the Democrats have against defeating Donald Trump?”

    Then it starts off with “No matter how unfit you think Donald Trump is for office – how deceitful, how corrupt…”

    America is doing better now than it has in aeons. He has done things his immediate predecessor explicitly said were not possible. He has clocked up some foreign policy successes (Obama, I believe, achieved none) and is, for the first time I can remember, trying to extricate the US from the intractable internecine squabbles they were committed to by Presidents who felt that pointlessly sending American troops to die somehow projected strength.

    Strip away all the Democrat talking points, look at what is real, and apart from his rather brash persona it is pretty hard to say he is unfit while their were so many who have achieved nowhere near as much.

  201. feelthebern

    The media seems to be wetting the bed over a ‘forecast’ form the IMF. How accurate are forecasts again?

    Current IMF forecasts for DM’s are too bullish.
    Current IMF forecasts for EM’s are too bearish.

  202. feelthebern

    Loose lips.
    After market APRA announces it will not appeal its smack down defeat against IOOF.
    It was “the vibe” case that got thrown out.
    However, IOOF through the roof today.
    Nothing suss.

  203. Bruce of Newcastle

    The NDIS was waved through by Tony Abbott.

    Hospital pass. The correct answer would be to redraft the legislation, but how do you explain that to an electorate who have trouble with arithmetic and long words?

    The voters said ooh what a cute kitten! Which wasn’t a kitten, it was a baby bobcat. Which has now grown up. Blame Gillard, it’s her baby.

  204. Knuckle Dragger

    Hmmm. Yes. Krudd at Bunnings. All weekend. Every weekend.

    TE’s nailed it I reckon. The same people who recommended he grab fainting churchgoers by the ankle, and to stand around gormlessly in shoe-deep Brisbane floodwater.

    In any event, if you’re any sort of man the process goes like this:

    1. Identify need for new ladder.
    2. Go to Bunnings. Once inside go directly to ladder section.
    3. Select ladder. Pay for ladder.
    4. Strap ladder to ute.
    5. Return for snag with onion on top.
    6. Go home. Use, and marvel at, ladder.

    The KRudd method.

    1. Get kicked out of the house for getting under Therese’s feet.
    2. Go to Bunnings. Have coffee.
    3. Meander through garden section. Admire cacti.
    4. Ask staff to show entire stock of unique toilet seat covers.
    5. Participate in DIY planter box building seminar.
    6. Second coffee. Selfies next to hammer section.
    7. Go home seven hours later, having forgotten the roll of tape Therese sent you out to get.

  205. feelthebern

    When a regulator can not maintain discretion when an announcement is pending, what right do they have to pursue others for the same act.

  206. RobK

    4. Strap ladder to ute.
    That’s a tough one for Kev. Brings back memories.

  207. Bruce of Newcastle

    One group is identified and given sub-human characteristics – “and promptly ate” etc.

    So you are saying that the Maori who promptly ate Cook’s sailors were subhuman are you Numbers?

    In short you are disingenuously making a false accusation. Which sadly is a common event from you.

    No I don’t think Maori are subhuman. I think humans are quite adept at catching and eating high calorie food sources.

  208. Ian

    Speaking of NDIS waste here is a doozy. About 18 months ago I bought a villa, in a complex of 12, off the plan. Once the developer had sold 6 them the remaining 6 were removed from the market. Myself and the missus moved in about a year ago this week after a lengthy delay which was explained as a paperwork snafu at the land titles office. These villas were designed as an over 55’s with features built in to suit aged people. Shortly after we moved in the NDIS showed up, having rented 4 of the vacant units at nearly double the local rate for a 2 bed villa (600 bucks per week) The fucking developer smelt big dollars and re classified the units from over 55’s to people over 55 OR people with disabilities. These units are now occupied by people with varying disabilities, but get this, they receive 24/7 live in care, just get your head around what that would cost, $600 per week rent and enough support staff to cover 24/7 care. These people should be in a group home with a quarter of the staff and way less overheads

  209. RobK

    . I think humans are quite adept at catching and eating high calorie food sources.
    And overwhelmingly territorial about it throughout history.

  210. lotocoti

    I think our friend might be accusing aborigines of being hard right lunatics.
    Grinding up some Barringtonia asiatica is probably a lot further away from gas chambers than our friend seems to be suggesting.

  211. Old School Conservative

    Bunnings on Saturday does not work when on an intermittent fasting regime.

  212. RobK

    Bunnings on Saturday does not work when on an intermittent fasting regime.
    A question of timing?

  213. John Constantine

    NSW Police Force
    October 15 at 10:48 AM ·

    All the creepy fellas, All the creepy fellas,
    Now put your hands up,
    Up in the club, acting like a thug,
    You keep tryna buy her drinks,
    Attempting to flirt, you’re behaving like a perv,
    She said no and that’s what she really means,
    She wants to feel safe (safe),
    So give that girl some space (space),
    She doesn’t want your attention,
    You’ve drunk a lot of beers (beers),
    Could lose your best years (years)
    Take the hint and go away.

    #IfYouLikeItThenYouShouldAskForConsent

    NSW quertyquota deathsquads now enforcing thoughtcrimes on facebook. Once the police are 50% diversity, there needs to be new crimes invented that can be enforced from a nice safe airconditioned office,playing with your phone without dropping your coffee and tim-tam.

    Confess first Citizen, we will tell you your crime later.

  214. zyconoclast

    The NDIS was waved through by Tony Abbott.

    Hospital pass. The correct answer would be to redraft the legislation, but how do you explain that to an electorate who have trouble with arithmetic and long words?

    The voters said ooh what a cute kitten! Which wasn’t a kitten, it was a baby bobcat. Which has now grown up. Blame Gillard, it’s her baby.

    Turnbull could have strangled the kitten.

  215. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    That’s some distance along the continuum that leads to the gas chambers.

    The Aboriginals had gas? And chambers?
    What about Webers?

  216. The Barking Toad

    NDIS is a bigger economic disaster than NBN.

    Gillard/Rudd/Conroy and lamp posts should be joined.

  217. Old School Conservative

    With all due respect to police, firies, ambos etc I am tired of constant platitudes from politicians, the press, and senior officers about the stress faced by first responders.

    Yes, they face horrible scenarios most of us will never imagine.
    But they know that going in. They get trained to deal with disaster and gruesome scenes. Workplace support services spring into action after ugly incidents.

    The constant reference to their own trauma actually reduces the empathy I have for their tough jobs.

  218. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Ian, there is tremendous waste right through the health and welfare system. Much could be consolidated and streamlined if the bureaucrats just got it together to talk to each other and to the politicians.

    Ten years ago my eldest son was in a major public hospital for four months in a high-care bed costing at that time $840 a day, all paid by Medicare. Goodness knows what it would cost now. The point here though is that he did not need anything like a high dependency bed with his vital signs being taken four times daily. He had severely injured feet and could not walk weight-bearing until some bones had knitted. He could get himself in and out of a wheelchair and to the special showers for disabled patients. He would have been fine in a hostel where a limited amount of assistance was available, and happier too, as he might have had his own room instead of sharing a ward with three elderly alcoholic gentlemen, who also would have been better off elsewhere but were in hospital because they were not well enough for total self-care. Hostels and group homes for so many social care needs would be so much cheaper than hospitals and often better. Some go to family care but our place for my son at that time was quite unsuitable for wheelchairs.

    At that time this hospital was shrieking and screaming that they needed more money for more beds in high care wards. Go figure.

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