Tuesday Forum: October 15, 2019

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  1. Infidel Tiger

    Donaldo’s letter to Erdogan will be remembered in international affairs as the 2019 version of the Cossaks letter to the Ottoman Sultan Mehmed IV.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/nntaleb/status/1184821897915183104

    A must read.

  2. Armadillo

    The hardest step is the first one.

    Britian needs to cut the rope they put around their own neck.

  3. Steve trickler

    Dillo. Happy, to buy you a beer one day.

  4. Armadillo

    Australia also need to pull their heads in, rather than commit to some fanciful idea that we are linked to Asia.

    This is Leftist thinking. Absolute garbage. It’s entirely misguided.

  5. Colonel Crispin Berka

    Farage is taking a hard line on it. https://mobile.twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1184790307164037121

    The commitment to regulatory alignment in this agreement means that the “new deal” is not Brexit, despite improvements on the customs union.

    I didn’t get as far as article 10 and 12 yet, but there’s apparently some nasty EU poison pills inside them, worse than the customs duties. So BoJo tried to put a positive spin on some crappy deal that still has lots of EU strings attached.

  6. Armadillo

    Dillo. Happy, to buy you a beer one day.

    Noted.

  7. Armadillo

    The dream of a united Europe is a nightmare. The real issue here is immigration.

    One World Government. No thanks.

  8. Zyconoclast

    So Ukraine mothers don’t have to wait 6 weeks before re-shagging?

    One-month-old baby boy is left with a black eye and horrible injuries after his Ukrainian mother, 19, ‘beat him before leaving him alone to go on a date’

    The mother said that ”she did not touch Mykyta and that his injuries were caused by cold draft”

  9. Old School Conservative

    Those Cossacs certainly had a way with abuse.
    “The crick in our dick” indeed.

  10. Armadillo

    Im really astounded by how stupid this world has become.

    I put it down to one thing. Educating the masses.

  11. Mark A

    Old School Conservative
    #3186910, posted on October 18, 2019 at 1:15 am

    Those Cossacs certainly had a way with abuse.
    “The crick in our dick” indeed.

    The whole thing is probably not quite true, tho it must have a kernel of truth in it.
    Whatever, the Cossacks could afford to be cocky, there was no profit in it for the Sultan in conquering them.

  12. Mark A

    Armadillo
    #3186911, posted on October 18, 2019 at 1:26 am

    Im really astounded by how stupid this world has become.

    I put it down to one thing. Educating the masses.

    Being serious for a moment, you are right.
    What had been achieved 2K years ago or even earlier with their technology is amazing.

    We couldn’t imitate it with today’s population, most couldn’t even stay alive out of reach of a supermarket.

  13. Armadillo

    Mark, all the kids today are geniuses. They are all educated. Just ask them.

    I get a wry smile on my face when I look at my birth certificate. My fathers occupation is listed as “Master Butcher”. He finished his schooling at 14. He learnt his trade under his father (who died when he turned 18). Amd then under uncles and others. Had his own shop for 50 years or so, employing 8 others at times. He could add up and subtract, and had the most beautiful handwriting. Most of all, he had one main thing. The customer is always right. Always.

    His generation and his mates were all the same. Work hard, be honest, have fun.

    I guess my point is this. Education doesn’t come from school. You learn much more at home. You learn much more at work than at school. You learn much more by having family. They are the teachers of success, not the ones standing in front of your kid for a 45 minute period.

    As much as “the state” wants to “educate you”, they can’t. Only family and friends can do that.

  14. Armadillo

    Teachers can’t teach you how to go camping or fishing or enjoy life. Or how to treat people. It’s all about “respect” apparently. The world doesn’t work that way.

    Which reminds me. Arky, get fucked.

  15. Armadillo

    Ditto Trinkler. A blood trail Armadillo hunter? I’m both hurt and disgusted at the same time.

    Meh. I’ll get over it.

    [Mental note to self: escalate when Trinkler least suspects it]

  16. Top Ender

    Education doesn’t come from school. You learn much more at home.

    School gets the kid for about six hours a day.

    The parents are responsible for the other 18.

  17. Mark A

    Interesting question.
    Makes you stop and think.

  18. Arky

    I get a wry smile on my face when I look at my birth certificate. My fathers occupation is listed as “Master Butcher”.

    ..
    It’s pronounced “baiter”.

  19. Mark A

    Arky
    #3186950, posted on October 18, 2019 at 6:20 am

    I get a wry smile on my face when I look at my birth certificate. My fathers occupation is listed as “Master Butcher”.

    ..
    It’s pronounced “baiter”.

    Fair enough, if Annastacia Palaszczuk can get away with pronouncing her name the way she now demands, without changing the spelling of it, then anything goes.
    In fact you have a better case than she does.

  20. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Dissenting parents are labelled as abusers, and this legislation will provide the opportunity for prosecution of parents wanting to protect their children from medicalisation of their gender non-conformity – resulting in sterilisation by hormones, genital mutilation and breast removal – in their teen years.
    Mark it well, the eventual and inevitable backlash from this is going to be epic.

    There was a really tragic case aired on Bolt the night before last. A man in quite a lot of distress wanting to be interviewed in spite of this to tell his tale of being given very little information or choice about gender reassignment during a period of deep confusion in his life. He was by his own account absolutely railroaded into hormones and worse, told immediately by all health professionals he consult that he was suffering from a mismatched gender, and was only able to decide eventually to return to life as a man due to his Christian faith and support from friends at his church. This man had suffered greatly due to these vicious ideologues who had given him no real help with life’s problems but had insisted he follow their instructions and become a woman.

    I hope he sues.

    Yes, the backlash will be harsh and strong indeed.

  21. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Gary Varvel and the Trump Impeachment News Network for me today, Tom.

    It’s the little touches that make a good cartoon. In this one I especially liked the bored sound man stage hand trundling off the C from CNN and the vacuous blonde announcer.

    His number two one was good too. Iconic wandering Chinese bag man in front of a tank always says a lot to start with and cartoonists can take it from there.

    Some of the others just weren’t all that pertinent or the drawings just didn’t cut it for me. Still, can’t have a brilliant crop every day. Thanks for all of your hard work at starting Catallaxy morning off well.

  22. struth

    Good Moaning.
    Yes Gary Varvel gets it today.

    You can drop David Rowe if you wish.
    That’s a sick puppy with nothing to say.
    I understand noting the enemy’s take on things is always useful, but he’s just some sick prick with an obsession for drawing naked men.

  23. John Constantine

    https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/30474/this-containerized-launcher-for-the-xq-58a-valkyrie-combat-drone-could-be-a-game-changer

    Our elites use the Bollard Events to turn their elite habitats into gated communities.

    Then drone tech makes the ‘ bollards as castle moats’ theory useless.

    Drone maker Kratos has shown off a launcher for its low-cost XQ-58A Valkyrie unmanned combat air vehicle (UCAV) that fits inside a standard shipping container. There has been a growing trend toward containerized weapon systems around the world and combining this general concept with the Valkyrie could make these already very exciting drones even more capable of conducting flexible, highly agile, distributed operations.

  24. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    hahaha Just watched that clip of commuters on the London Tube turning on Extinction Rebellion. It has set me up cheerfully for the day. Wonderful.

    A popular uprising. They hauled these rats off the top of their train, one guy getting up to push the last one of them off. This was one very angry crowd. The lunatic Rebellion should be able to see very clearly from this just how convincing their ‘protests’ have been at winning hearts and minds.

  25. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    That clip is backthread a few hours only. Worth a look indeed. Cheer the people on vs. the loons.

  26. calli

    I prefer Excrement Retention, myself, but that probably says more about me than, well…

    Not for those sad man-buns pulled down off the trains.

  27. John Constantine

    Robot trucks launching drones from shipping containers.

    Skynet becomes self aware.

    Valkyries could potentially conduct the sorties in a semi-autonomous or autonomous mode, reducing the need for direct interaction of any kind from human operators. The Air Force, at present, already envisions the XQ-58A, or an evolved successor, being able to provide a low-cost strike, electronic warfare, or intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance platform that can operate individually, in groups of “loyal wingmen” with manned aircraft, or in networked autonomous swarms. You can read more about the Valkyrie and the over-arching Low Cost Attritable Aircraft Technology (LCAAT) project in these past War Zone pieces.

  28. calli

    Ha! Me too, Lizzie.

    Young fellas fed up. Nothing can stop them.

  29. Tintarella di Luna

    Mainly the discarded blades Cats leave lying around here, Tinta.
    I come here to help myself to some fine steel.

    Cheers Cardimona – the Cat is a such a useful site, I come here for my sanity and of course the rapier wit and wisdom.

  30. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Boris has a little bunny by the ears and is now birthing it out of the hat.

    I think it will get through. Perhaps making the best of a bad lot, but at least it sets a serious ball rolling. This is just stage one (a major one though) of getting the UK right out of the EU. There will be more to come in finer negotiating detail, which was always to follow as a staged exiting process, and perhaps Farage will have a role to play there in keeping them honest.

    We watched a bit of the unfolding drama on Sky UK last night. Amazing to see how the wheels have been turning within wheels, and the way in which the EU reps have had to eat some humble pie, well sauced of course. If this doesn’t pass the Brit parliament Boris has a good case now for having done a deal and thus no need in law to obey any call for an extension. No deal and out on Halloween is his final card to play. Won’t be needed imho.

  31. calli

    Last night Knuckles asked about Swedish feminists.

    No, ther are not extinct.

  32. Cardimona

    I got a letter into the Sydney Daily Telegraph this morning.
    Hopefully it’ll trigger some cognitive dissonance in the hysterical glueback class.

    Waste not want not

    David Borger is right, wrong, and doesn’t go far enough (“Don’t rubbish plans to turn waste into energy”, 17/10). He’s right we should get energy from waste, wrong about Australia ever running out of landfill sites (has he ever flown inland?) and misses what else we could do. Want plastic out of the ocean? Easy, stop sending it to Asia and burn it here in high-temp exhaust-scrubbed incinerator-generators. Plastics are energy rich. Burn all other combustibles, too. Even green waste can be a fuel generator after shredding and drying, as sugar mills have demonstrated. Householders should be encouraged to tie putrescent waste into disposable supermarket bags. In capped and sealed landfill it will generate methane which can be harvested for power generation. Non-combustible waste can go to landfill. Government efforts to force value into it have failed dismally. If it ever acquires value we can mine it from the landfills. Adopt these suggestions and the savings for ratepayers and taxpayers will be huge. And don’t worry about the CO2 emissions — that’s another failed hypothesis.

  33. calli

    Here is the Once Were Vikings story.

  34. struth

    Yawning and stretching and scratching of b a l l s done, a couple of coffee’s and, er, jeez, was that the dog, and I’m now looking for this brilliant Brexit of which I am making assumptions before I see it.

    Assumption one.
    All finances due to the EU for membership still to be paid.
    All other conditions will find the EU will still have some level of say in it, and when the hoo har dies down, they’ll just move back to full control, quietly and quickly.
    Until you have a speed limit in place, it’s impossible to adjust the speed limit down.

    Nothing but a full brexit is brexit, it’s just an adjustment of the speed limit with the same people controlling the speed.
    Nothing but a full Brexit will lead to freedom from EU control.
    If it ain’t a full Brexit, they’ll be back to where they started in under 10 years.

    Assumption two.
    They’ll be back to where they started in under ten years, maybe sooner, as the older Brits die off, replaced by the brainwashed yoofs.

  35. Tintarella di Luna

    I got a letter into the Sydney Daily Telegraph this morning.
    Hopefully it’ll trigger some cognitive dissonance in the hysterical glueback class.

    Thank you Cardimona for your persistence and perserverence, I am not made of such stern stuff I gave up writing letters to the editor about 10 years ago – right about the time of the Rudd/Gillard/Rudd disaster facilitated as it was by a treacherous media.

  36. Cardimona

    I should’ve mentioned. that letter copped some editing – to its detriment.
    Subbies are never as smart as they think they are, sadly.

  37. calli

    It’s the Hotel Europa. You can check any time you want, but you can never leave.

  38. calli

    Every time Cardi posts a letter, or Mater a reply, I think of this.

    Good stuff.

  39. Mark A

    Cardimona
    #3186983, posted on October 18, 2019 at 7:21 am

    David Borger is right, wrong, and doesn’t go far enough (“Don’t rubbish plans to turn waste into energy”, 17/10). He’s right we should get energy from waste, wrong about Australia ever running out of landfill sites (has he ever flown inland?) and misses

    If you have to cart it to a distance you can compress it to an incredible small size.
    Used to know a bloke in Bendigo, he transported hay bales to Japan in a super compressed form, not only compressed but vacuum packed.

    If there is a will there is a way.

  40. Tintarella di Luna

    Subbies are never as smart as they think they are, sadly.

    yes you only need look at the cringe-worthy headlines, and atrocious spelling and grammar, but they can use technology, so they think that makes them smart.

  41. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Tinta, hope we can catch up soon, maybe tonight?

    Gotta go now, we have window installers arriving in an hour or so and much preparation to be done, not the least of which is making Attapuss comfortable locked away with his food, his comfy bed, and his litter tray.

    We’ve have had to do this all night because of fear he might leap out of the wide open spaces with the wind blowing in which constitute our dining room at present. Last night we had to remove the heavy plastic sheeting that has been our main window for some weeks there now, in order to fix up and repaint some of the poor job done by the carpenters who took out the old windows and nailed up the sheeting (expensive and not good, will not recommend them). Once that was done we couldn’t refix the plastic, and of course it would turn out to be one of Sydney’s windiest spring days so we had to batten down stuff in there for the interim. Can’t lock it away from the rest of the place now because recent renos made us open plan. Calm this morning, luckily.

    Attapuss is very offended at the level of constraint, but it’s a long way down the side of a cliff should he take an over-hopeful exploratory leap onto the sill. 🙂

  42. Tintarella di Luna

    Every time Cardi posts a letter, or Mater a reply, I think of this.

    That’s my laugh for today, yesterday’s was the gluebacks on the trains removed at no expense by popular will.

  43. Entropy

    The problem with teachers is they are people that never left school.

  44. struth

    Oh and some of the unexpected benefits of bringing in the third world.
    Strange flu’s and viruses etc.
    South Australia has had an increase of over 30 percent in flu’s many of them that hang on forever.

    No one can quite work out why it’s so bad.

    Adelaide has recently been flooded with Pakis and other third world “carriers” and Aussies are going down like flies………………………..like the aboriginals did upon encountering the common cold , etc. (the main cause of aboriginal deaths upon settlement were the various flu’s and diseases new to them).

    Now , apparently this is factual when it comes to the effect on aboriginals but when white Australia gets over run by the third world, and goes down with diseases, it’s racist to talk about and pure conjecture.
    Friends and family and strong young men I know have been down for the count.

    Either way, I have caught two bad flu s this year with coughs that will not go.
    So although I am over the sickness, the cough hangs on, and it’s right on the voice box.
    So two gigs cancelled this weekend.
    Gigs cancelled a few months ago.
    I’ll be pulled from the circuit at this rate.
    Thank you Multiculti arseholes, you plan is working.

  45. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Struth, I think No Deal would be the best deal too. But whether Boris could pull that one off is dubious, and there is no election in sight. So best to leave with this deal and have a messy and fairly one and off divorce from the EU than have the anti-Brexit pot stirred so much that the very idea of Brexit gets lost in some further electoral wrangling. The younger generation will also have grown up a bit as the world of reality starts to bite – don’t forget what we were all like when young – and the latest group of kiddies into school might get some turn around from the deep green propaganda and entitlement culture as things go belly-up due to the climate scam’s hold in the UK. Those train commuters didn’t look like happy green clappies to me. Gives one hope.

  46. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    on and off divorce

  47. Bruce of Newcastle

    Robot trucks launching drones from shipping containers.
    Skynet becomes self aware.

    This one is from March.

    China turning its massive shipping container fleet into warships with long-range cruise missiles

    The new missile is in flight testing and is a land-attack variant of an advanced anti-ship missile called the YJ-18C, according to American defense officials.

    The missile will be deployed in launchers that appear from the outside to be standard international shipping containers used throughout the world for moving millions of tons of goods, often on the deck of large freighters.

    Who needs a missile sub when there’re a thousand container ships floating off the coast, any of which could have nuclear tipped cruise missiles on board?

  48. struth

    Anything but complete Brexit, done and dusted divorce, means the messy divorce still favours and empowers the EU, like the family court does here with women.
    Like divorcing Australian men dealing with the family court, the British nation can’t afford it.

  49. notafan

    These ER types have no consideration for ordinary people.

    They stop them getting to work, they stop them from getting to hospital.

    Why should we believe them when they claim to care about our future if they don’t care about our right now?

    I hope more normies disrupt the disruptors.

    Greta is the epitome of the lap of luxury upper middle telling everyone else what to think and feel, convinced of her own extraordinary worth.

    She has to be there, damn the carbon cost.

  50. notafan

    Struthers surely not.

    Those upper middle modern day remittance men from the sub continent could not possibly be the harbingers of nasty diseases.

    Scolding in three two one

  51. John Constantine

    Sky wymynsys announces that all the enquiry is doing is to provide a platform for hurtful views.

    Everybody knows what must be done to ensure that only the State has a monopoly on violence.

    Controlled by godless commo vegynsys activist wymynsys.

    Comrades.

  52. min

    Re the interview on Bolt with the man who had sex change ,he said that he had been suffering fron anxiety and depression for years ,even before the sex change, yet no mention of being treated for these . Had these problems been addressed wouldhe have gone through the sex change procedure or was it wrong diagnosis? I believe this is happening with the kids these days considering the number going through the process.

  53. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Aww. Attapuss has a little white tip on his tail, just like in Calli’s link. Same sort of cat.
    If he had a gun, he’d use it, as long as he could call for back up, which is us. 😉

    He’s grown up a lot now from his pic on my Gravitar. Still cute at times though.
    But not as cute as my latest little grandson, all chuckles, 6 months old now. I have just received the new porta-cot I order online for him. I am going to care for him some days regularly now as part of the patchwork of childcare three days a week while his mum returns part-time to her high-powered career.
    It will be a joy to do that, as he is so gorgeous. I am a sucker for babies. Our earnest son is coming over on Sunday again with the bub (he does Sunday arvos so his wife can have free time) to ‘show us the ropes’ of caring for him. lol. What’s that about grandmas and sucking eggs? Four kids and five grandchildren make nine babies so far, and others occasionally in the loop too.

  54. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    ordered. Sorry, my keyboard doesn’t take up the ‘ed’ past tense ending sometimes.

  55. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I believe this is happening with the kids these days considering the number going through the process.

    I absolutely believe this too, Min. Numbers we will never see are how many of these distressed children come from left-wing families and particularly from families without a father present. If they have tendencies towards autism at all and are living in such families, often with poor routines and discipline, then the children become doubly disadvantaged. They are then sitting ducks for these evil gender ideologues.

  56. John Constantine

    The peoples liberation army OBOR naval base being built in East Timor is posing as a container port.

    Built to over service growth in one of the world’s poorest countries.

    Killed the pigs with plague bought in with peoples liberation army slave labour, crippled the country with OBOR loanshark debt, corrupted the politicals and dominates that sealane with drone carriers posing as container ships.

    Comrades.

  57. Bruce of Newcastle

    The Excrement Rebels better start learning Russian.

    Russia Scraps “Climate Change Plan” After Uproar From Businesses

    The gutted climate package effectively puts “any actively managed efforts by the government to reduce emissions on ice,” they added.

    And according to Mikhail Yulkin, Director of the Center for Environmental Investment told Kommersant, “It is obvious that Russia needed to join the Paris climate agreement only to create a better image and divert attention away from the domestic political events inside Russia over the summer.”

    Vegan borscht is very Gaia friendly btw.

  58. Mark A

    struth
    #3186999, posted on October 18, 2019 at 7:36 am
    I hope you get better soon.

    I have the same affliction, been causing me trouble for the last year. Not debilitating but annoying, sounding like a Frenchman with blocked nose and sneezing.
    Luckily I don’t have to sing. Couldn’t anyway, so there is that.

    The quacks could find no cure so far, over the counter medication here are next to useless.

  59. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    ky wymynsys announces that all the enquiry is doing is to provide a platform for hurtful views.

    For these people, the view of any male is automatically described as hurtful to women.

    Men have no rights for much of the time in the family courts, and this needs to be addressed.
    Bring on the enquiry and good on you, Pauline. Good women have to speak up on this for men.

  60. Knuckle Dragger

    Smarmy head-tilting poppet just on the teev explaining why there’s no evidence that blokes get the pineapple once within 100km of the Family Court.

    Further ladeeeesplains why all the men telling Hanson about their multiple issues are all lying liars, and waaay to emotive to be taken seriously. Tells the TV chick you need evidence for domestic violence orders, keeps a straight face while doing so.

    Immediately then emotes about a single instance she heard about through someone she knew who worked at the family court about a child wiping blood off Mummy’s dial. But the children, she squeals.

  61. Knuckle Dragger

    Man, and some punters here reckon they’re up to speed with invective. Got nothing on the Zaporozhian Cossacks. Part of their excellent reply to Sultan Mehmed IV, who demanded their submission:

    ‘you lowlife. You won’t even be herding pigs for the Christians.’

    Hooooo boy. Straight to the burns unit, Mehmed!

  62. Bruce of Newcastle

    The Tesla flash-memory thing is getting worse:

    Burned-Out Flash Memory Is Breaking Tesla Cars

    According to recent reports, some Tesla cars are spontaneously “bricking,” Silicon Valley slang for being left completely useless, due to embedded flash memory burning out. The problem leaves the cars unable to charge and has appeared in vehicles that are four years old.

    Vice News reports that some older Tesla cars are facing issues with their onboard flash memory, resulting in the car’s computer system bricking itself according to three independent Tesla repair professionals. The issue arises with the cars’ eMMC chip which is embedded on a board called MCU1; two experts who have studied the issue claim that the Tesla vehicle writes memory to these chips so often that they eventually go bad.

    YouTuber Rich Benoit discussed the issue with another Tesla repair professional named Phil Sadow in a video, stating: “Tesla’s got a problem. They create so many logs in the car, they write to [the chip] so fast that it basically burns them out. They have a finite amount of writes. When this burns out, you wake up to a black screen [in the car’s center console.] There’s nothing there. No climate control. You can generally drive the car, but it won’t charge.”

    That’s going to crater Tesla resale value even more.

  63. feelthebern

    Get ready for this move by Trump.
    Trump Jr tweets over a weekend that he’s appointed to the board of XYZ.
    Watch the media go nuts for 24 hours.
    Then prior to the market opening on Monday, Trump Jr tweets it was a joke.
    Then watch the SunGodKing go crazy on twitter.

  64. Arky

    There’s nothing there. No climate control. You can generally drive the car, but it won’t charge.”

    ..
    Model A not looking like such a silly idea now is it?
    Also: Struth, before you go blaming refos, have you touched any armadildos lately?

  65. Mater

    Also: Struth, before you go blaming refos, have you touched any armadildos lately?

    Arky, stop using that term!
    As Bob would remind you (if he was here): “That’s some distance along the continuum that leads to the gas chambers.”

  66. Knuckle Dragger

    No climate control? What?

    Frigging Tesla. Take waaay more fossil stuff to produce than actual cars, blow up grids when they all recharge at once, batteries weaken every time they charge, you can’t go far in them, they detonate without warning or cause and now no climate control? Wasn’t that THE WHOLE POINT?

    They promised me the world, and gave me an atlas.

    How dare they.

    They have shattered my hopes, and my dreams.

  67. Shy Ted

    Either way, I have caught two bad flu s this year with coughs that will not go.
    struth, Mark, head to the chemist, over the counter Ventolin inhaler for $10ish, 1-2 puffs 2-3 times a day. When they give you the 3rd degree it’s for an asthmatic cough. Revelation when I discovered it. Also deep breathing after the puffs to get those bronchioles loosened up. And if you want the deluxe version one of those little Vicks inhaler things. Money back guarantee.

  68. John Constantine

    OBOR naval base for drone carriers posing as container ships at East Timor, same at PNG, same at True Lagoon, same at Bougainville.

    What could possibly go wrong,

    Comrade Maaaaates.

  69. struth

    hope you get better soon.

    I have the same affliction, been causing me trouble for the last year. Not debilitating but annoying, sounding like a Frenchman with blocked nose and sneezing.
    Luckily I don’t have to sing. Couldn’t anyway, so there is that.

    The quacks could find no cure so far, over the counter medication here are next to useless.

    This one sits right at the bottom of the throat, starts out with usual head cold mucus, flu systems, and mucus causing the cough.
    tight airway makes you feel lethargic for weeks and weeks after all other symptoms gone, head cleared up (at least it feels that way) you still have cough.

    I feel well enough until I move too much, hence I’ve put on 10 kilos this year, over the two flus, being lethargic.
    The only thing I have is an asmol puffer that clears the airway enough for me to keep moving , although still coughing.
    That’s all I can suggest, as you say, nothing else works at all.

  70. Tel

    Vice News reports that some older Tesla cars are facing issues with their onboard flash memory, resulting in the car’s computer system bricking itself according to three independent Tesla repair professionals. The issue arises with the cars’ eMMC chip which is embedded on a board called MCU1; two experts who have studied the issue claim that the Tesla vehicle writes memory to these chips so often that they eventually go bad.

    That’s absolutely garbage design … there’s no excuse for that. This is absolutely a well understood concept, it’s been around for years, every embedded device manufacturer knows about this issue.

    What this demonstrates is that whoever Telsa is hiring, are essentially learning on the job, from scratch, with no proper experience in the industry. Yet they believe they will beat the established car companies with 100 years of industrial know-how. When I put together the problems they have had with their charging systems, and flaws in the mechanical design, and the autopilot that is worse than useless, and their solar cells that catch fire … I would say they have some extremely poor internal quality control that very likely covers every aspect of the company.

    The only question now is when, not if, Tesla hits the wall and goes into total bankruptcy.

  71. Dr Faustus

    BoJo has set up the new Brexit deal to fail in the UK Parliament. It leaves Norrhern Ireland in EU control, sets up a permanent bureaucracy to allow the EU to manage the UK’s internal affairs, and effectively creates an internal EU taxing point.

    The EU is chortling about “fair and balanced”.

    The plan seems to be to ensure that the proposal is thrashed to death by all sides in the UK Parliament – leaving Johnson sending a purposeless letter requesting an extension with no objective. Apparently creating a reason for one of the 27 to say ‘Stop. Enough. ‘

  72. lotocoti

    China’s third aircraft carrier build

    A catapult launch system means they intend taking carrier operations seriously.

  73. Mother Lode

    Last couple of days both Rowe cartoons seemed to be repeats.

    They might be new cartoons making exactly the same point in exactly the same way.

    Insight and informing require coherent but distinct statements.

    Indoctrination just repetition.

  74. Knuckle Dragger

    Progs in Scotland dislike the concept of Brexit, as hammered out by Johnson. They reckon it’s not good enough.

    If it wasn’t for the whisky and Scapa Flow the entire country should have been towed further out into the North Sea and left there in 1346 after the Battle of Neville’s Cross.

    These are the same tartaned cretins, mind, that had an alliance with France for centuries. France.

  75. Percy Popinjay

    Smarmy head-tilting poppet just on the teev explaining why there’s no evidence that blokes get the pineapple once within 100km of the Family Kangaroo Court.
    Tells the TV chick you need evidence for domestic violence orders

    The bolded text is a blatant lie, which anyone who knows anything about the family kangaroo court would well be aware.

    We discussed this topic recently at a Sydney Cat get together, noting just how staggeringly stupid and arrogant collectivists are if they think they can lie about the incredibly destructive impact the family kangaroo court has had on the lives of so many (especially kiddies) across the country, since the abomination was vomited forth by St Gough and that disgusting corrupt toe rag Murphy.

    Talk to any normal person in the street and I can guarantee they would know of least several people who’ve had their lives destroyed in that hellish star chamber.

    I can count a nephew and four very close friends (one of whom is a woman) who’ve all been screwed over there. One of my best mates still hasn’t seen two of his daughters since the mid nineties and only recently (i.e. about two years ago) was able start seeing his oldest daughter having also not seen her since that time. He was also bankrupted by the court proceedings and had his matter abruptly terminated when his legal team had to demand the judge recuse himself from hearing the matter due to blatant bias against my mate.

    Every single family kangaroo court site across the country should be dynamited and the abomination legislated out of existence.

  76. Shy Ted

    Admittedly I didn’t see all of it, but PML tonight was from Alice Springs.
    Last week in AS airport I saw more cosmetically enhanced ladies in one place than I have ever seen before. Great big boobs and great big lips everywhere.

  77. MatrixTransform

    The only question now is when

    turns out that a squillion writes to flash … aint that flash.

    maybe you can’t teach a new dog old tricks

  78. lotocoti

    These are the same tartaned cretins, mind, that had an alliance with France for centuries. France.

    Norn Iron has previous form with French interference.

  79. Percy Popinjay

    both Rowe cartoons seemed to be repeats.
    They might be new cartoons making exactly the same point in exactly the same way

    What – fat naked indistinguishable wallies wallowing in mounds of shit and vomit?

    That’s every “cartoon” ever spewed forth by that insane homosexual imbecile.

  80. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘cosmetically enhanced ladies’

    You may want to revise your opinion, Ted. There is a shadowy cabal somewhere in Alice that describes the town as ‘one of the gay epicentres of Australia’.

    I don’t know what it is, and I don’t know where they’ve put it, but apparently it’s there. You need empirical evidence to support your assertion that they’re not dudes, and the only peer-reviewed and approved method for that is the Thailand cupping check.

  81. Knuckle Dragger

    And it needs to be done in less than 0.31 seconds.

    It’s a tightrope.

  82. Shy Ted

    Now I know what you racists are thinking – big boobs, big lips, Alice airport… But no, the boarding call for Sydney was announced and all the enhanced ladies arose as one. All Caucasian and all with very nice enhancements, some very, very nice. Alas, I had to wait for the Adelaide plane when all the plainest, make-up free, K Mart clothes-wearing, wrinkled and joyless females of the species arose as one. Life is not fair in SA.

  83. struth

    Paul Murray went to Alice and filmed the show out at a Quarry.
    The quarry is in the Eastern Macs a few k’s out of town and is used for bush nights by the Brennan family.
    I’ve taken many tourists out there in my time and also sung bush ballads there for the bush nights.
    Safely out the road of Alice’s problems and easily controlled.
    I noticed that besides Jacinta and her lovely parents, and about three others in the crowd, like the owner of Mac range caravan park, none of the people there, were long term Alice residents.

  84. Shy Ted

    I think you’re right, KD. There were several very effeminate, by any standards, “men” wandering around. Didn’t take much notice at the time. Might be time to rename that nearby place, Gayers Rock.

  85. mh

    Relentless

    Trump rally today in Dallas

  86. Knuckle Dragger

    The Third English Civil War beckons.

    As arranged by the EU.

  87. Bruce of Newcastle

    If AI can tell the difference maybe there isn’t a…oh wait I better not complete that sentence.

    Facial recognition AI can’t identify trans and non-binary people (via BCF)

    Facial-recognition software from major tech companies is apparently ill-equipped to work on transgender and non-binary people, according to new research. A recent study by computer-science researchers at the University of Colorado Boulder found that major AI-based facial analysis tools—including Amazon’s Rekognition, IBM’s Watson, Microsoft’s Azure, and Clarifai—habitually misidentified non-cisgender people.

    Qweryist software is the next crusade! You read it here first.

  88. Bruce of Newcastle

    Oops can’t not can should be the 3rd word. Please don’t report me to the HRC.

  89. Arky

    Arky, stop using that term!

    ..
    Sorry.
    I didn’t know armadildos were that easy to offend.
    From now on I shall refer to them as armoured plague squirrels.

  90. Mother Lode

    The Tesla flash-memory thing is getting worse

    Adds an element of thrill-seeking to Space-X recruitment.

    No longer just a case of:

    “Aaand we have ignition”
    “What are you talking about? We haven’t started the countdown yet.”

    Now it will be:

    “Why is it called Space Oddity 12? What happened to the other 11?”

  91. Mother Lode

    As Bob would remind you (if he was here): “That’s some distance along the continuum that leads to the gas chambers.”

    He really has gone back to uni, huh?

    That level of argument is the sort of breathless overreach you would expect from a first year Arts student.

  92. Mother Lode

    There’s nothing there. No climate control.

    Can we call that the Greta function?

    The Greta function warms up or cools the car by increasing or decreasing the level of CO2 in the cabin.

  93. Mother Lode

    Venezuela wins seat on UN Human Rights Council

    From which bully pulpit it will serially join in denouncing democratic nations.

  94. John Constantine

    Since the Melbourne Cup, has the prince of penzance won more prizemoney than the cost of the hay to feed it?.

  95. Knuckle Dragger

    John C,

    Yeah, I was just thinking that.

    Well I wasn’t, but I am now. Very very good point.

    It probably featured in the ABC show last night, with a ring in standing around in a paddock somewhere.

  96. I see Erdogan has stopped shooting at US troops long enough for them to retreat from Northern Syria, the better to facilitate Turkey’s ethnic cleansing of the Kurds.

    @atrupar Aaron Rupar
    Referring to Kurds living along Turkish border in Syria, Trump says of Turkey, “they had to have it cleaned out.”

    Trump not even pretending any more. What’s the point, you lot like genocide.

  97. Des Deskperson

    Ex-Senator Fraser Anning got away with using official travel to attend a political rally earlier this year.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/oct/01/fraser-annings-taxpayer-funded-travel-to-far-right-rallies-value-for-money

    According to this report, the Independent Parliamentary Expense Authority

    “was ultimately convinced Anning’s claims for the rallies were within the rules and consistent with “value for money” principles.

    Anning argued the trips were related to parliamentary business because his former constituents in Queensland were concerned about “ethnic-based violence”.

    This is the interesting bit:

    “It should be noted that it is not [the authority’s] role to determine the merit of ‘parliamentary business’ for senators and members.”

    So if an MP says it’s his/her “parliamentary business’ – and cobbles together some stuff in support from constituents – then the authority has to accept it.

    We are used to integrity rules for MPs being vague and broad and we are used to them being slackly applied, but this sets a rather nasty precedent. A Greens MP who can drum up a few letters of support from constituents can now use taxpayers money to attend XR demos anywhere in Australia.

  98. Bruce of Newcastle

    Trump not even pretending any more.

    Quite so. He is upholding the alliance between Turkey and the US which was passed and ratified by the US Congress. If he did not carry out his legally required duty he could be impeached. You wouldn’t want that would you M0nty?

  99. Zyconoclast

    Venezuela wins seat on UN Human Rights Council

    From which bully pulpit it will serially join in denouncing democratic nations.

    Most of the democracies are either cucks, two party dictatorships or both.
    Any bullying from Venezuela is probably fair comment.

  100. Bruce of Newcastle

    M0nty – Maybe Congress could void the alliance with Turkey so that Trump could order his armed forces to help the Kurds, like he did when Russia and Syria sent an armoured battalion over the Euphrates last year. You know the one which was turned into small burning gobbets of flesh?

  101. Bruce, stop being deliberately stupid. It’s just tiresome by this point.

    Trump was under no obligation to greenlight the current ethnic cleansing of Northern Syria. That is all on him.

  102. Hmm, what else is in the news… oh yes, Mick Mulvaney confessed in a presser that there was quid pro quo in the Ukraine dealings, thus confirming the grounds for the current impeachment process.

    And Trump awarded the next G-7 conference to his own hotel in Miami, which in that part of the year is less than 50% booked because the weather is terribly hot and uncomfortable. So this World-Cup-in-Qatar situation is an openly conducted violation of the emoluments clause of the US Constitution.

    The swamp, it is swamped.

  103. Bruce of Newcastle

    Hmm, what else is in the news… oh yes, Mick Mulvaney confessed in a presser that there was quid pro quo in the Ukraine dealings, thus confirming the grounds for the current impeachment process.

    Quite so, but Joe Biden is no longer in office. Maybe he could be prosecuted though.

    Oh you mean Trump? Volker said the was no quid pro quo despite Schiff telling him “Ambassador, you’re making this much more complicated than it has to be.”

    I do believe that is perverting the course of justice by Mr Schiff.

    Schiff pushed Volker to say Ukraine felt pressure from Trump (16 Oct)

  104. JC

    We’re in a cab from the airport, being driven by a 450 lb black dude with an angry attitude …driving soo fast, we’re going to take off, because he told us he had an argument with his girlfriend. When we make a traffic stop
    He opens the car door for body relief. Welcome to NY.
    I put the bags in the back because I was worried he would have a heart attack as he was breathing so heavily.
    Sadly, he’s 29.

    I’m not kidding… 450 to 500 lbs!

    More sadly, because he will need it soon, he said his Ned insurance was cut off because he stopped paying it.

  105. The Turkey deal involves ceding a 20-mile buffer zone of Syrian land to Turkish control. So not only did Trump start a new war, abandon his allies and side with the ones who are conducting ethnic cleansing, he has rewritten the Turkey/Syria border with a sharpie. And the US gets no troops coming home, plus Trump just sent 3,000 extra troops to Saudi Arabia as paid mercenaries to fight their wars. Donald the Dove!

  106. mh

    Monty, you need to ease up big fella.

    TDS is killing you.

  107. Steve trickler

    You see a dog drowning in the river alongside, Monty.

    I’d save Monty first.

    That was tough to admit.

  108. Top Ender

    Talk about a puff piece:

    Weapons of war revive men’s skills
    ROSEMARY NEILL

    Sally Scales and spearmaker Frank Young at the Art Gallery of South Australia with Peter Mungkuri’s Puno (Trees)

    “I am 70 and I still throw spears,’’ declares indigenous artist Frank Young, who has travelled hundreds of kilometres from Amata, his community in South Australia’s APY Lands, to Adelaide for the official opening of indigenous art extravaganza Tarnanthi.

    The festival of contemporary indigenous art was launched on Thursday and showcases the work of more than 1200 Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander artists. Exhibits range from traditional landscapes and ceremonial funeral poles to a car wreck, comics and delicate bark paintings.

    The festival, which has drawn on $63m in funding since its 2015 inception and is now the biggest such event, is held at 30 South Australian venues, including the Art Gallery of South Australia.

    Young, who still musters camels, has a spear and painting on exhibit at Murray Bridge in a satellite Tarnanthi show exploring the role of weapons in war and in protecting indigenous land.

    He says the spears he makes are not merely artworks but “serious weapons that reflect the laws and customs of my people’’.

    The Amata elder has also made some of the 500 spears that comprise the ambitious installation Kulata Tjuta, which was a centrepiece of Tarnanthi in 2017 and is now heading to France. In a move AGSA said was “a diplomatic and artistic coup’’, Kulata Tjuta will open at the Musee des Beaux-Arts de Rennes in Brittany in October next year.

    The project, in which spears made by more than 100 men are suspended in mid-air, is a collaboration between AGSA and the APY Art Centre Collective.

    Young and centre spokeswoman Sally Scales said it had revived spearmaking in Amata. Said Young: “I wanted to pass on this skill.’’

    According to Scales, Young’s grandson is now one of the community’s best spearmakers. She said the spears project had led to a “real resurgence of interest in this as a men’s project. All of them are having a go and earning some money at the same time’’.

    Tarnanthi has a growing global reach: 20 bark paintings from Yirrkala in Arnhem Land will tour the US after their SA outing. They will then be housed at the University of Virginia’s Kluge-Ruhe Aboriginal art gallery, America’s only museum dedicated to indigenous Australian art.

    Yirrkala elder and artist Djambawa Marawili, who gave Tarnanthi’s opening address, said Tarnanthi told the “great foundation stories of Australia’’.

    Rosemary Neill flew to Adelaide with the assistance of AGSA

    Um, they are sticks.

    Oz print edition

  109. Bruce of Newcastle

    The Turkey deal involves ceding a 20-mile buffer zone of Syrian land to Turkish control.

    Is Syria agreeing to cede 20 miles of Syria to Turkey?
    How odd.
    Well if they really want to do that why would the US stop them?
    Turkey is the formal legislated ally of the US after all.

  110. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Homogenous groupthink’: Labor women slam election strategy set by ‘Anglo men’
    Judith Ireland
    By Judith Ireland
    October 17, 2019 — 11.55pm

    View all comments

    A Labor-aligned women’s group has slammed the “lack of diversity” among leadership positions in the party’s head office, saying “homogenous groupthink” from “Anglo men” meant Labor failed to sell its female-friendly policies to voters at the May federal election.

    As an internal review into Labor’s doomed election campaign nears completion, EMILY’s List denounced it as “ineffective” and damaged by “missed opportunities”, while arguing for more diversity in the party’s organisational structure.
    A submission to Labor’s internal review of the 2019 election says it had “amazing” policies for women but failed to sell them to voters.

    A submission to Labor’s internal review of the 2019 election says it had “amazing” policies for women but failed to sell them to voters. Credit:AAP

    “White, Anglo men are not the only sources of knowledge in the party of campaign expertise,” it said in a submission to the Labor Party’s 2019 federal election review.

    While praising the female-focussed policies developed by the parliamentary wing of the party – including $660 million for domestic violence, a pay increase for early childhood educators and a plan to boost access to abortion and contraception – the group said the campaign failed to sell the policies to voters during the election campaign.

    Sydney Morning Herald. You couldn’t make this shit up.

  111. Tom

    JC, have a great time!

    I believe, via you, I have ordered two MAGA caps from the Trump merch shop in Trump Tower. Hope it’s not too much hassle.

    I realise you’re probably buggered after 24 hours in the air, but I’m dying to hear your impressions of America and the impeachment hysteria.

  112. Knuckle Dragger

    If I had a border that was being used by stateless dickheads to lob mortar shells at my villagers, and as a staging point for various bomb-encased punters to roll into my country and blow my stuff up, I’d put a 30km minimum buffer zone in too, especially as that country’s nominal owners weren’t in a position to do it themselves.

    Yes, I would do that. I would do it for the children.

  113. Mater

    And Trump awarded the next G-7 conference to his own hotel in Miami, which in that part of the year is less than 50% booked because the weather is terribly hot and uncomfortable. So this World-Cup-in-Qatar situation is an openly conducted violation of the emoluments clause of the US Constitution.

    Do you really think he really gives a rodents ring hole about 2-3 days of occupancy in one of his hotels?
    Maybe he will run around and check the mini bars himself?
    Grow a brain, Monty.

    P.S. The only reason you’re pissed that he didn’t get involved in the Turkey-Kurd affair is that in doing so, he effectively disassembled a magnificent theme upon which the Democrats could base their upcoming election campaign.

  114. hzhousewife

    Venezuela wins seat on UN Human Rights Council

    How much is the prize money?

  115. Is Syria agreeing to cede 20 miles of Syria to Turkey?

    No. And given that the desperate Kurds are now allying themselves with the Syrians and by extension Russia, now we get to see the war escalate because Trump has made this deal to allow Turkey to set a new front line 20 miles inside Syria.

    All roads with Trump lead to Putin.

  116. Zyconoclast

    BHP’s shareholders in UK reject call to ditch ‘pro-coal’ associations

    But at the London annual general meeting, which represents 42 per cent of shareholders, only 22.16 per cent of votes supported the motion to suspend membership of trade associations that are not lobbying in line with the Paris Climate Agreement.

  117. JC

    Tom

    Yes , I well recall the order and I try to take a pic too to prove authenticity 🙂

    Dude, if a bomb goes off while I’m there and I’m killed or maimed don’t feel any guilt . Ok 🙂

  118. Knuckle Dragger

    Zulu’s link, just now:

    Federal Labor. Fast becoming the Handsome Her of national politics.

  119. Do you really think he really gives a rodents ring hole about 2-3 days of occupancy in one of his hotels?

    Yes Mater, I think he cares about pouring ten million taxpayer dollars into his own pocket.

  120. Mother Lode

    You wouldn’t want that would you M0nty?

    Like the Dimocrats, Monty desperately wants anything, but the Dimocrats want it because they are losing the hold they have been consolidating across decades over so many American institutions and because of the searing light shining on their grey dead flesh as they suck the blood out of America means people will be harder to dupe with their mesmeric words.

    Monty desperately hopes to be right once and everyone else here wrong, at which point he will take that moment as definitive and, somehow, his being wrong in practice 99.99% of the time will just be an aberration from his essentially being right 100% of the time.

    And the left tells him he is ‘special’, which reassures him each and every day.

  121. Steve trickler

    That twirl from the blonde @2:15.

    Geez!



  122. MatrixTransform

    munty is going to quit posturing and rush right out there into the ME and fix it.

    … never go full Greta

  123. lotocoti

    Is it just me, or does our friend sound a little more overwrought than usual?

  124. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘No. And given that the desperate Kurds’

    Yes. Yes they did agree to a 30km Toik controlled buffer.

    And the good old Kurds weren’t that fucking desperate when they took advantage of open warfare on other fronts to pinch hundreds of local Christians’ shit and then herd them out in the desert to die.

  125. mh

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    4h
    This is a great day for civilization. I am proud of the United States for sticking by me in following a necessary, but somewhat unconventional, path. People have been trying to make this “Deal” for many years. Millions of lives will be saved. Congratulations to ALL!

  126. P

    This young bloke is totally pi**ed off –
    Warning F Bomb

  127. Mater

    Yes Mater, I think he cares about pouring ten million taxpayer dollars into his own pocket.

    Profits: It’s going to be “at cost” only. Publicly stated and the reality will obviously he checked by every left wing media organisation in the English speaking world.

    Branding Opportunity: Do you really think the ‘Trump’ brand really needs any more exposure?

  128. Zyconoclast

    Sad

    Australian man Brenton Estorffe killed during home invasion in Texas while his wife and children slept

    His wife and two young children were in the house sleeping at the time of the shooting.

  129. Mother Lode

    The ABC has a banner flashing saying that “Labor and the Coalition are arguing about asylum seekers coming by plane. Here are the facts.”

    They aren’t even pretending that they will be reporting what the politicians are saying. They are just going to say what they themselves want.

    What are the chances the ABC will mention that people coming by plane are already identified? Or that there must be a pretty shady reason people take the riskier, more expensive ‘boat’ rides (where they all amazingly lose their identifying documentation) rather than hopping on a cheaper, safer plane?

  130. It’s going to be “at cost” only.

    LOOOOOOL.

    You lot really are dumb as pig droppings.

  131. Zyconoclast

    New energy projects on track for end-of-year approval as Angus Taylor defends underwriting scheme

    Five gas projects, six pumped-hydro and one coal-fired power plant upgrade have been slated across all states in the National Energy Market, with detailed analysis for six already completed in collaboration with the Clean Energy Finance Corporation.

  132. Bruce of Newcastle

    M0nty – Isn’t it a tad hypocritical for you to be urging Trump to break the law?

  133. No one believes your rubbish, Bruce.

  134. feelthebern

    The ATO announced it settled its case against Crown.
    Did anyone see the amount it got?
    Google isn’t telling me a number.

  135. notafan

    Monty has nothing to say about Kurdish treatment of Christians and Yadizi

    always with the consistency

  136. Knuckle Dragger

    It’s really a good outcome, munter.

    Except for the mercenaries. They had at least six month’s warning this was coming. To their credit though, haven’t seen any white helmets on the teev.

  137. It’s really a good outcome, munter.

    Sure, brown people are getting slaughtered, always a tick in the box for you lot.

  138. Black Ball

    Is Monty Adam Schiff?

  139. dover_beach

    monty thinks a move that worsens the position of Putin’s ally in the ME show he’s in bed with Putin. Dear oh dear.

  140. notafan

    BoN

    don’t be sad

    Monty always calls people who point out the flaws in his arguments stupid

  141. Mater

    You lot really are dumb as pig droppings.

    Hahaaaaaaa!

    Ok, but I guess it beats being a hypocrite. Let me remind you what you said about the Red Shirt Scandal:

    m0nty
    #2871300, posted on November 25, 2018 at 10:11 am

    Mater, like the voters of Victoria, I could see through that confected outrage. It was a minor actuarial error. Not worth the string of front pages the Hun gave it.

    m0nty
    #2871339, posted on November 25, 2018 at 10:54 am

    The limitations of the Murdoch press approach of waging long-running campaigns is shown up in things like the Red Shirts yarn. It bore no impact on regular voters, so they didn’t care.

  142. notafan

    Sure, brown people are getting slaughtered, always a tick in the box for you lot.

    don’t be silly Monty

    terrorists, of any hue, getting killed might not get a tick from you but does for most people

  143. Steve trickler

    He is not stopping.



  144. Tom

    No one believes your rubbish, Bruce.

    Bruce is a scientist, Monty. I’d trust him with my life.

    On the other hand, who in their right mind would believe a demented leftard troll with terminal TDS?

    The only thing that frustrates me is that 2020 election day is still a year away.

  145. Monty has nothing to say about Kurdish treatment of Christians and Yadizi

    Does that mean the Kurdish people should be massacred, including a lot of Christian Kurds? I don’t see how this is relevant, nota.

  146. notafan

    Five-day suspension comes with a U.S. pledge to facilitate a pullout by Syrian Kurdish fighters; Trump hails deal, but critics say it mainly fulfills Ankara’s goals

    paywalled
    Turkey Agrees to Pause Military Operations in Northern Syria

  147. terrorists

    Well that’s just sinister, nota. Last week they were our allies against ISIS, this week they’re all terrorists? That is some Newspeak stuff.

  148. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘slaughtered’

    Way to emote, Russia boy. It’s ‘neutralised’, or more recently ‘deactivated’.

    I suppose you’re right. We (the West) should pump some more billions of bucks and thousands of lives into Syria.

    After all, it’s got abundant natural……. oh.

    And if you control the coast, you control….. hang on.

    It’s a global trading hub between……. wait, wait.

    Its economy is a regional powerhouse……. shit.

    Hmmmm. Should have stuck with my first point. Yeah, let the brown people get slaughtered. By other brown people.

  149. Mother Lode

    The Turkey deal…

    So now there is a ‘Turkey deal’.

    The left build up these narratives again and again and again, fall for their own manufactured myths, proceed from them, and then come a cropper when their most avidly cherished hopes evaporate into nothing.

    Look at the Mueller thing. Years of fevered imaginings, misdirection, fabrication, innuendo, ‘informed sources’, ‘people familiar with’, leaks, memos – all feeding into a climate of barely contained excitement and anticipation. All for nought.

    And at the end the Dimocrats, having squandered two years, are stuck frantically trying to formulate policies – and what a motley collection of circus freaks, proclaiming wilder and more bizarre promises, they have delivered.

    How sweet it is.

  150. notafan

    am I reading this correctly

    Kurds are going to evacuate the border area the Turks want?

    Mike Pence, the vice president of the United States, said Washington and Ankara have agreed to a ceasefire in northeast Syria, where Turkey launched an offensive last week to push back Kurdish fighters from the border region.

    The announcement on Thursday came after talks between Pence and Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan in Ankara.

    Ankara agrees to suspend its offensive for five days to allow the Kurds to withdraw from the Turkey-Syria border.

  151. Bruce of Newcastle

    Sure, brown people are getting slaughtered, always a tick in the box for you lot.

    Quiet a few people here are brown M0nty.
    I have black African ancestry myself.

    You haven’t explained why Trump should break the legislated terms of the US-Turkey alliance when there is no such legislation for the US-Kurd agreement. Or why Trump is at fault when the legislature refuses to act, as it so far has done.

  152. the legislated terms of the US-Turkey alliance

    … does not include the US backing unilateral Turkish invasion of other countries. So it is not relevant here.

  153. notafan

    Well that’s just sinister, nota. Last week they were our allies against ISIS, this week they’re all terrorists? That is some Newspeak stuff.

    do just a little homework Monty

    the PKK are a known/designated terrorist group-clearly to them and their affiliates I was referring (only killed approximately 40,000 of those brown people conducted attacks inside Turkey)

    the Kurds are not an homogeneous blob of brown people either
    some are members of IS, some are terrorists, some/most just want to be left alone

  154. dover_beach

    Mater, like the voters of Victoria, I could see through that confected outrage. It was a minor actuarial error.

    Using public money to illegally fund a political campaign characterized as a ‘minor actuarial error’. If this were Trump, monty would be calling for Impeachment! with spittle devouring his monitor.

  155. the Kurds are not an homogeneous blob of brown people either
    some are members of IS, some are terrorists, some/most just want to be left alone

    And over 30,000 of them are Christian. If that’s all you care about, why abandon them to the tender mercies of Turkish bombardiers?

  156. notafan

    Like I said

    Some not all are terrorists

    The U.S. diplomatic approach, with the Kurds participating through some cut-out, would be an ideal solution because it might begin to ease the poisonous feud between Erdogan and the Kurds. Mazloum warned that if Turkey does invade, “we will not keep the battle just in areas Turkey wants,” but wage counterstrikes all along the 600-kilometer border between Turkey and Kurdish areas. He said his forces won’t cross the border, “but of course Kurdish people everywhere will cooperate,” presumably including the millions inside Turkey.

    Instead of thanks, a critical U.S. ally faces only more threats

  157. Cardimona

    Apologies if this has already been posted – I haven’t scrolled back…

    https://twitter.com/Trump_Ally/status/1184960320269242368?s=09

    GEOTUS (pbuh)

  158. monty

    Everyone is (seemingly) allying against Ergodan.

    Isn’t this a good thing?

  159. Serious question.

    Why don’t the PPK just move to Iraqi Kurdistan?

    The war would end; they would be safe. They can’t beat Turkey, not without a much larger conflict that could wipe them out.

  160. Bruce of Newcastle

    M0nty – Trump may not order US forces to engage in an act of war with allied forces which are subject to a formal alliance ratified by the Senate and his predecessor. He may not place US forces in a situation where subordinates could cause an act of war against such an allied force. Either scenario would be grounds for his impeachment.

    So Congress has tied Trump’s hands. He is doing what he can using the constitutional powers of the Executive branch, ie sanctions.

    Don’t you think it curious that Trump was happy to Tomahawk Syrian airbases and obliterate the Syrian-Russian mercenary column crossing the Euphrates last year yet is not using such overwhelming force on Turkish forces? Maybe there is a reason, like that he legally isn’t allowed to?

  161. Let me remind you what you said about the Red Shirt Scandal

    Bit of a different situation, Mater. The emoluments clause of the US Constitution is not a grey area. We know where the line is.

    Four out of the last five major national polls put support for removing Trump from office at over 50%, and the numbers keep rising to Nixonian levels. American voters are noticing Trump’s blatant corruption, and they are rejecting it.

  162. John Constantine

    If activists can take down the australian red meat industry and rewild the pastoral zone, there will be an economic impact that will take a lot of ecotourism to replace.

    As the world’s largest sheepmeat and goatmeat exporter, and third largest beef exporter behind Brazil and India, Australia consistently exports more than 65% of its red meat production to overseas markets.That’s according to the Australian red meat and livestock industry State of the Industry Report 2019, launched today by the Red Meat Advisory Council (RMAC).

    The report, compiled by Meat & Livestock Australia (MLA) on behalf of the red meat industry, provides an overview of Australia’s red meat and livestock industry, including figures on production, consumption, exports, and the economic significance of the industry.

    MLA Managing Director, Jason Strong, said the report highlighted that while Australia is a relatively small producer of red meat, it plays a big role in global export markets.

    “Continued diversification of export destinations has allowed Australia to maximise returns and help mitigate exposure to market and trade risks,” Mr Strong said.

    “Australia exported 65% of beef, 73% of sheepmeat and 90% of goatmeat production in 2018, valued at more than $13.5 billion. This makes Australia the world’s largest red meat exporter by value.

    “Australia is also a major player in the livestock export trade, exporting 1.1 million cattle and 1.2 million sheep, worth a combined $1.5 billion in 2018.

    “Red meat and livestock exports totalled approximately $15 billion in 2017-18, down 13% year-on-year, but approximately 59% above 2012-13 levels.”

    RMAC Chief Executive Officer, Anna Campbell, said the report is an important tool for highlighting key flashpoint areas for the attention of industry and policy makers, including market access to the European Union, the rise of alternative proteins and the impact of natural disasters.

  163. Knuckle Dragger

    There’s significantly less than 30,000 Christians now, munter.

    I really don’t see what the issue is with Turkish Kurds flogging Syrian Kurds who’ve been blowing bits off the Turks (and Turkish Kurds) for decades.

  164. mh

    And Monty returns to his own vomit

    Four out of the last five major national polls put support for removing Trump from office at over 50%, and the numbers keep rising to Nixonian levels. American voters are noticing Trump’s blatant corruption, and they are rejecting it.

  165. Everyone is (seemingly) allying against Ergodan.

    Isn’t this a good thing?

    Remember Dubbya’s Coalition of the Willing against Iraq? How did that turn out, Dot?

  166. Conspiracy theory:

    The reason Trump didn’t lock her up is because they had a deal to have her run against him and lose again.

  167. m0nty
    #3187159, posted on October 18, 2019 at 10:50 am

    Everyone is (seemingly) allying against Ergodan.

    Isn’t this a good thing?

    Remember Dubbya’s Coalition of the Willing against Iraq? How did that turn out, Dot?

    Well,

    What do you think happens if Trump engages in conflict with Turkey?

  168. Roger

    … does not include the US backing unilateral Turkish invasion of other countries. So it is not relevant here.

    Hardly an invasion.

    Turkey & Syria have a 21 year old agreement that permits to Turkish forces to patrol over the border into Syria to hinder the PKK’s activities. The PKK is recognised as a terror group by Turkey, the US & the EU.

  169. We had like 20k votes for Harambe and even Deez Nuts showed up in the polls. What is going to be the 2020 meme?

    Free Hong Kong

    Adolf Honkler

  170. John Constantine

    When it comes to mouldy dope, it isn’t just the trolls on the Cat causing a stink.

    https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2019/10/03/US-hemp-harvest-brings-hope-to-some-farmers-heartbreak-to-others/6441569913810/?sl=1

    DENVER, Oct. 3 (UPI) — A glut of CBD oil on the market, severe weather and a complex harvesting process will make this year’s first mass hemp crop in 80 years in the United States a disappointment for many farmers.

    As harvest season winds down and winter frosts threaten the northern United States, hemp is proving to be a complicated plant for farmers to harvest and process. Buyers for the crop are tapped out, which is driving prices down, industry observers say.

  171. He may not place US forces in a situation where subordinates could cause an act of war against such an allied force.

    This is just wrong, Bruce. Your dumb talking point is based on false pretence.

    America has bases and troops all over the world who are there as a deterrent to prevent conflict, because no one sane wants to be held responsible for killing US troops. That was one of the roles of the troops in Northern Syria.

    You are being deliberately obtuse, or you are thick as a plank. Which is it?

  172. feelthebern

    The reason Trump didn’t lock her up is because they had a deal to have her run against him and lose again

    8D Chess.

  173. John Constantine

    Hemp has taken off among farmers in Oregon, but wet weather and mold damaged much of the crop, said “Farmer Tom” Lauerman, who runs the Vancouver, Wash.-based Hemp Farming Academy, an online farming course.
    RELATED Licensed hemp acreage in 2019 jumps by four times over previous year

    Plants in Oregon this year were crammed too close together, causing mold and powdery mildew. Hail in the eastern part of the state and higher-than-normal rainfall also was disastrous, Lauerman said.

    “There’s no guarantee in agriculture. You just have to be prepared to withstand the worst-case scenario,” he said.

  174. Mother Lode

    Venezuela wins seat on UN Human Rights Council

    How much is the prize money?

    They have asked to be paid in pallets of instant noodles, toilet paper and feminine sanitary products.

    The other currency used in Venezuela – sex – is managed by UN Peace Keeping operations.

  175. mh

    Hardly an invasion.

    Turkey & Syria have a 21 year old agreement that permits to Turkish forces to patrol over the border into Syria to hinder the PKK’s activities. The PKK is recognised as a terror group by Turkey, the US & the EU.

    Thanks, Roger.

    Monty is here to mislead as well as being a self declared “troll”.

  176. Mater

    Bit of a different situation, Mater. The emoluments clause of the US Constitution is not a grey area. We know where the line is.

    Four out of the last five major national polls put support for removing Trump from office at over 50%, and the numbers keep rising to Nixonian levels. American voters are noticing Trump’s blatant corruption, and they are rejecting it.

    Well, if it’s so clear and he’s stepped over it, make it happen, and stop talking about it!

    If you are relying on the ‘American voters’ to remove him, rather than the law: Is his supposed corruption that blatant?

  177. Knuckle Dragger

    Do us a favour, munter. In the spirit of bipartisanship.

    This time, when all your backwards pageantry comes to nought and the diametrically opposite of your repeated predictions occurs, just stick around for a while and graciously accept defeat.

    Buggering off for a year or so, and only returning for a ‘lol’ or so is pretty funny, granted, but the whole vibe thing’s ruined.

    When it happens this time, take it like a man.

  178. Turkey & Syria have a 21 year old agreement that permits to Turkish forces to patrol over the border into Syria to hinder the PKK’s activities. The PKK is recognised as a terror group by Turkey, the US & the EU.

    Pretty hard to say the West has a right to turn up and intervene then. We’d be going against our own word and established international law that has existed for 370 years.

  179. What do you think happens if Trump engages in conflict with Turkey?

    Erdogan was bluffing. He wasn’t going to kill US troops in Northern Syria if Trump didn’t withdraw them.

    Option A: Trump is such a bad deal maker that he couldn’t recognise an obvious bluff.

    Option B: Trump is doing Putin’s bidding by ceding control over the ME to Russia, so it was all a set up to begin with.

    There is no option C.

  180. MatrixTransform

    brown people are getting slaughtered

    please enlighten us as to which colour people are permitted to be slaughtered

    and, for the record, who is doing the slaughter.

    ok hang on wait I get it ….

    Munty need to ring Erdogan and give him a stern How Dare You Sir!

    why is munty wasting time posting here … Allsorts are dying while he types

  181. This time, when all your backwards pageantry comes to nought and the diametrically opposite of your repeated predictions occurs, just stick around for a while and graciously accept defeat.

    Where are the Mueller indictments?

    Mueller? Mueller?

    Robert Mueller?

  182. John Constantine

    It was bad enough last the troll sooked for a solid week because his ingrown toenail got infected from his poor personal hygiene. If only the obese commo would learn to wipe between his sausagelike tootsies the blog could be spared all this crap.

    Here is one porker that really could bleed out from pig plague.

  183. Erdogan was bluffing. He wasn’t going to kill US troops in Northern Syria if Trump didn’t withdraw them.

    There is no option C.

    Option C is that Trump isn’t an imperialist.

    Explain how the US has a right to intervene against a recongised terrorist group, against the wishes of two sovereign nations?

  184. Well, if it’s so clear and he’s stepped over it, make it happen, and stop talking about it!

    If you are relying on the ‘American voters’ to remove him, rather than the law: Is his supposed corruption that blatant?

    As Mueller said, the DoJ isn’t going to charge him regardless of how blatant it is, so impeachment is the only option. But even if the House convicts, McConnell will run a clown show trial and never convict in the Senate… unless support for impeachment gets above 50% among Republican voters.

  185. These frogs and their memes are a joke.

    Come out of the closet, fellow penguins!

  186. Boambee John

    All roads with Trump lead to Putin.

    Hang on, only a few minutes earlier you were saying the roads all led to Ukraine, Putin’s enemy.

    Make up what passes (in the absence of anything substantial) your mind.

  187. A Labor-aligned women’s group has slammed the “lack of diversity” among leadership positions in the party’s head office, saying “homogenous groupthink” from “Anglo men” meant Labor failed to sell its female-friendly policies to voters at the May federal election.

    The ALP still ignoring the election result.

    All Scottie has to do is keep his own collection of left wing loonies under control and the next election is a done deal.

  188. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘No one sane wants to he held responsible for killing US troops’

    The Delcon argument.

    So the US has troops deployed all over the world as human shields?

    Criminy.

    Do the troops know about this?

  189. Option C is that Trump isn’t an imperialist.

    He just sent 3,000 troops to Saudi Arabia to fight their wars, and boasted about getting paid for it.

  190. So the US has troops deployed all over the world as human shields?

    Criminy.

    Do the troops know about this?

    Yes.

  191. Old School Conservative

    It’s interesting to compare numbers’ straight line, pedantic and obtuse flights of simplistic logic with M0nty’s frantic flailing flights of fancy.

    Both share an appetite for viscous personal invective though.

    HSC “compare and contrast” activity completed for today. Hope any of you with children and grandchildren doing English get good noises coming from those young adults.

  192. Trump should be impeached for exposing our witch hunt, it’s a process crime!

    Obama deserves a peace prize for killing US citizens without a warrant and going to war without the permission of Congress, plus refusing to bomb ISIS because “humanitarian reasons”.

    You are so ideological you don’t care monty. You’d support the mafia if they signed the “correct” coloured party membership forms.

  193. Roger

    Pretty hard to say the West has a right to turn up and intervene then. We’d be going against our own word and established international law that has existed for 370 years.

    Trump inherited this situation due to Obama doing just that.

  194. Bruce of Newcastle

    so impeachment is the only option.

    What for M0nty?
    Do pray tell.

  195. Mater

    As Mueller said, the DoJ isn’t going to charge him regardless of how blatant it is, so impeachment is the only option. But even if the House convicts, McConnell will run a clown show trial and never convict in the Senate… unless support for impeachment gets above 50% among Republican voters.

    Even if it doesn’t result in his removal, if the evidence is strong enough, it sounds like a great way to discredit and damage him prior to the election.
    Make it happen. Go!

  196. m0nty
    #3187185, posted on October 18, 2019 at 11:02 am

    Option C is that Trump isn’t an imperialist.

    He just sent 3,000 troops to Saudi Arabia to fight their wars, and boasted about getting paid for it.

    You are seriously retarded boy. This demonstrates why you have such a low IQ and get no respect.

    They have been invited. They agreed. The Suadis can tell them to fuck off at any time.

    You are such a dreary bore to deal with.

  197. stackja

    Despite the the usual mutter. DT was elected. DT is still President. DT is still winning.

  198. How many more birthday parties for the cardinal before the HC returns from a well earned break to consider his appeal?

  199. HR Clinton & AO Cortez v Rand Paul & Kanye 2024.

    Make it so!

    (Unfortunately), Cortez will very likely be the US VP in 2025.

    You can whinge about how unpopular she is, but the NY Democrat party is the most left wing of all; they have satellite parties that are to the left of our left ALP; they’re like Kerry Nettles and Lee Rhiannon.

  200. They have been invited. They agreed. The Suadis can tell them to fuck off at any time.

    Sending thousands of mercenaries to The Kingdom sounds a bit imperialist, though.

  201. Des Deskperson

    Speaking of the Victorian Labor ‘redshirt’ affair, the Guardian article I linked to earlier in this thread about Fraser Anning’s official travel to a political rally also noted, as a separate issue, that:

    ‘Anning was ordered to repay $1,500 for wrongly claimed taxi trips and a 2017 flight between Canberra and Gladstone by his wife’

    In doing so, he presumably avoided any other sanctions, that could have included prosecution for fraud.

    To be fair to Anning, this seems to be standard practice for federal Parliamentarians who misuse public money. Pay it back and we’ll forget about it.

    How this differs in principle from the handling of the ‘redshirts affair’ – pay back the money and no further sanctions – escapes me.

    BTW, I dont approve of any of it.

  202. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘He just sent 3,000 troops to Saudi Arabia to fight their wars’

    Which, of course, perfectly correlates with this:

    ‘Trump is doing Putin’s bidding to cede control of the ME to Russia’

    Good old straight shootin’ munter McFabricator. Big Ivan the Terrible fan, by the way.

  203. Boambee John

    m0nty
    #3187123, posted on October 18, 2019 at 10:17 am
    No one believes your rubbish, Bruce.

    Tsk, tsk, temper, temper m0nty.

    For certain very limited meanings of “no one”, there might be some faint, very faint, element of truth in that statement.

    Otherwise, it is simply a grotesque lie.

  204. Bruce of Newcastle

    I love how M0nty is doing pretzels trying to avoid acknowledging that Turkey and the US are formally allied by an act of Congress, which Trump is respecting.

  205. EvilElvis

    Oh and some of the unexpected benefits of bringing in the third world.
    Strange flu’s and viruses etc.

    Currently a measles outbreak in WA. Next they’ll be telling us some other Captain Cook era disease is making a return.

    Do shit driving habits count as a disease?

  206. Bruce of Newcastle

    Sending thousands of mercenaries to The Kingdom sounds a bit imperialist, though.

    Golly, if that is terribly imperialist what would more than half a million US troops be like?
    Gulf War (1990-1991)

  207. notafan

    I didn’t say I only cared about the Christians (btw some are J ews and some are yazidi)

    Turkey have two issues, the two millions Syrian refugees in Turkey and the PKK using north eastern Sryia as a terror base.

    in any case it looks like the Kurds will withdraw

    just fancy

  208. EvilElvis

    The ATO announced it settled its case against Crown.

    I’m surprised the ATO had enough resources to chase Crown. They seem to like bullying and fucking over us idiots who’ve got small businesses for vague reasons, low hanging fruit and all that…

  209. MatrixTransform

    Sending thousands of mercenaries to The Kingdom sounds a bit imperialist

    The Golden Gollum Rides Roughshod over Riyadh … Many Murderers Makes Munty Mad

    …sounds a little sensationalist dont you think?

  210. ‘He just sent 3,000 troops to Saudi Arabia to fight their wars’

    Which, of course, perfectly correlates with this:

    ‘Trump is doing Putin’s bidding to cede control of the ME to Russia’

    Also:

    Sending thousands of mercenaries to The Kingdom sounds a bit imperialist, though.

    So he’s a US nationalist/imperialist doing the bidding of the Saudis because he takes his orders from Russia.

    What a beclowning.

    Have another rake, montel.

    To paraphrase Sir Francis Bacon: “You can never have too many rakes…”

  211. stackja

    The Truman Doctrine arose from a speech delivered by President Truman before a joint session of Congress on March 12, 1947. The immediate cause for the speech was a recent announcement by the British Government that, as of March 31, it would no longer provide military and economic assistance to the Greek Government in its civil war against the Greek Communist Party. Truman asked Congress to support the Greek Government against the Communists. He also asked Congress to provide assistance for Turkey, since that nation, too, had previously been dependent on British aid.

    Turkey thanks?

  212. Bruce of Newcastle

    RNC Raising Money To Help Democrats Televise Five Debates A Week.

    This was good too.

    ABC News Airs Authentic Footage Of 164-Foot-Tall Godzilla Rampaging Through Syria

    The MSM really should be more careful where they get their footage from.

  213. Boambee John

    the Kurds are not an homogeneous blob of brown people either

    To members of the fascist left, like m0nty, the whole world is comprised of various blobs of people of different ethnicities, all of which blobs are assumed to be internally homogeneous.

    The fascist left, mentally acting as “Stereotypes r us”.

  214. EvilElvis

    All Scottie has to do is keep his own collection of left wing loonies under control and the next election is a done deal.

    That’s great. The bureacrats and PS are running the show as usual. We’ll just tread water, get screwed with a velvet glove for another election cycle then eventually get it elbow deep from the gauntlet.

  215. Mother Lode

    Branding Opportunity: Do you really think the ‘Trump’ brand really needs any more exposure?

    Leftists have no idea about business.

    They still believe that business owners stout men in morning suits and top hats who sit in their hoardrooms atop piles of gold coins, dreaming up frightful new ways to wring more hours for less money out of their captive workers.

    They believe the business owners are always looking for ways to rip off their customers. They believe that benefit gained by a business owner when they sell something is immoral, but that the benefit gained by the customer who has exchanged money for goods (because the goods are worth more to them than the money) is actually a rip off.

    They believe that government departments are the very soul of efficiency and can do what the private sector does better and cheaper, and that public servants are never motivated by desire for promotion, prestige, power, spite, or even revenge. Instead their every fibre binds and their every sinew strains to be the bestest public servant they everest could be.

    They are true believers. And no encounter with reality can shake them.

  216. Australia is a beautiful land ruled with pineapples in velvet gloves, shoved in the $#@^ ends of the taxpayers and mug citizens.

    The ruling class are potatoes who love sweet corn so much, that the pineapplees ought to love more of that sweet, sweet corn.

  217. stackja

    Lucky escape for family after missile rips through Carrum Downs home

    A Carrum Downs man heard a huge bang like a car crash. Next minute a piece of metal tubing smashes into his home, crashing through walls and wrecking his bathroom. So what caused the terrifying blast?
    Mark Buttler, Herald Sun
    Subscriber only

    October 18, 2019 8:48am

    Detective Sen-Constable Heath Lyon of the arson and explosives squad said anyone struck by the tubing would have been killed or seriously injured.

    He said whatever propelled it was not commercially produced but very powerful.

    “It’s pretty lucky (no one was killed). It has gone up a very long way,” he said.

  218. Bruce of Newcastle

    Oops my link the Gulf War wiki broke. M0nty can probably find it if he needs to. That was quite a few Americans that the Saudis let in. I wonder why they felt the need to soil the holy desert sands like that?

  219. EvilElvis

    I got a letter into the Sydney Daily Telegraph this morning.

    Love your work, Cardi. I’m not with this level of argument though. We’ve played into the left’s hands when we’re fighting about how to deal with waste and power generation at an iPhone charging and toilet light level. How about incinerating waste right next door to a dirty great big nuclear power plant that provides energy for industry, job creating industry.

  220. Knuckle Dragger

    Godzilla. Aaaaah hahaa.

    That range footage from Kentucky was piss funny.

    There’ll be Bikini Atoll footage out and rebranded by Saturday lunchtime.

  221. Boambee John

    Has m0nty found a new source of discounted doughnuts? He has been manic this morning.

    The depressive part will follow when he comes off the sugar high?

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