LATE IN THE DAY MAJOR POWER USERS SPEAK UP. When is the official announcement that we have a Third World power system

UPDATE FROM JO NOVA. WE HAVE A THIRD WORLD POWER SYSTEM. AND IT WILL GET WORSE BEFORE IT GETS BETTER.

Australia’s biggest fruit and vegetable grower, Costa Group, has blasted the “disgraceful” state of the nation’s energy market after fears of summer blackouts forced the company to spend millions of dollars on back-up generators to protect its crops around the country.

Harry Debney, the head of ASX-listed horticulture giant Costa Group, said the company had installed back-up generators to protect crops from a disruption to energy supplies in a number of states.

“It’s a disgraceful situation,” Mr Debney said. “We’re so concerned. There’s a lack of reliability, which is even more important than the cost, because if you’re out of production it just really hurts you very badly.”

His concerns were echoed by ASX-listed Alumina Limited which, along with Alcoa owns the majority of western Victoria’s Portland aluminium smelter, and warned that long-term outages could be damaging. Last week Coca-Cola Amatil boss Alison Watkins likened the situation to one the company would face in developing countries like Papua New Guinea while Bluescope has also raised concerns.

A good old-fashioned Aussie sendup of the angry little girl from Sweden. h/t Frank at the Five Dock Climate Realists.

Alice Springs goes black. A warning for RE enthusiasts. Shit happens!

Cato no longer in the climate science game. The departure of Lindzen and Michaels.

Flashback. The “Right Stuff” team protest the politicization and corruption of science in NASA.

The planet is not in danger of catastrophic man made global warming. Even if we burn all the world’s recoverable fossil fuels it will still only result in a temperature rise of less than 1.2 per cent.

So say The Right Climate Stuff Research Team, a group of retired NASA Apollo scientists and engineers – the men who put Neil Armstrong on the moon – in a new report.

“It’s an wattsupwiththat.comembarrassment to those of us who put NASA’s name on the map to have people like James Hansen popping off about global warming,” says the project’s leader Hal Doiron.

Rethinking nuclear in Germany

The very modest shift to RE up to 2040 With a chart to show the picture. <img src=“http://files.ozblogistan.com.au/sites/4/2019/10/07204359/US-energy-1776-2040-300×147.png” alt=”” width=”300″ height=”147″ class=”alignnone size-medium wp-image-92538″ />

The not so bright future for electric cars. Expect to see a lot of fossil-fueled cars for a very long time. In addition to all the other problem, when they achieve any real penetration of the market we will need a lot more electricity! And petrol driven generators will be handy accessories.

Revising down the effect of increasing CO2. More like one degree than three or four, or seven!

Another exciting paper for climate nerds. This is incendiary for people who take the IPCC seriously. A multiple lead author comes clean about the uncertainties! Robert Murphy is a skeptic and also an Austrian economist. He will feature in Vienna next month. He writes

The reader can hopefully appreciate my shock when I read the first two sentences from the Abstract of their paper: “The economic case for limiting warming to 1.5°C is unclear, due to manifold uncertainties. However, it cannot be ruled out that the 1.5°C target passes a cost-benefit test.”
It cannot be ruled out….! What a contrast with the usual strident tone of the IPCC prophecies of doom!

The program for the Austrian economics conference next month. Austrian-economics-2019-program1

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14 Responses to LATE IN THE DAY MAJOR POWER USERS SPEAK UP. When is the official announcement that we have a Third World power system

  1. sfw

    Your Aussie send up link sends me to gmail.

  2. MACK

    The climate paper quoted by Murphy is consistent with Judith Curry’s expert opinion in recent years.
    https://judithcurry.com/2010/11/17/uncertainty-gets-a-seat-at-the-big-table-part-iv/
    She says ” The conflict regarding the theory of anthropogenic climate change is over the level of our ignorance regarding what is unknown about natural climate variability.”

    The myriad uncertainties in climate science mean there is no clear basis for doing anything, and certainly not spending billions on emission reduction.

  3. Rafe Champion

    Link fixed thnx!

  4. Bruce of Newcastle

    On the domestic climate change front…

    Make dishwashers great again (15 Oct)

    Dumping dishwashes that don’t dishwash and vacuums that don’t suck in case they consume too much holy electricity. Trump is winning the great global warming appliance war!

  5. TheSemiMentalBloke

    Breathy voice…How dare you.

  6. Here is another Greta/UN sendup.
    A Grandma speaks out to Greta and the UN because so many are being deceived by this nonsense
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=IwAR18-zf7PUlegBC27O2ClCReq_OSJbaEYfHV6lvf1KfrnHcpwbC1nDJpb60&v=fRBsQqfOVXg

  7. hzhousewife

    I simply cannot understand why there is no movement as yet campaigning to ban clouds !

  8. Dr Fred Lenin

    Terence great lady there. I nominate her for the Nobel Truth Prize,if there is one ,though I doubt it (where are you going to find litists who tell the truth ) . Her descripion of the thunberg scam is priceless ,should be on the wall ov every school room in the Western World and all untidy nayshins ofices .
    Wonder if she would be interested in being treasurer in Canberra ? Bet she knows how to budget ,unlike the lawtrades people who have held the job for years .

  9. CameronH

    I worked in the electricity supply industry in the engineering and technical services area for over 30 years. I remember siting in a meeting with other electricity supply technical people and commonwealth government politicians and public servants over a decade ago where they were told in no uncertain terms where all of this would lead. Much eye rolling and a show of contempt followed and now here we are.

  10. CameronH

    Just a comment about these companies not speaking up sooner. All of the people who run them would be very concerned about criticizing any policy position supported by the green/left, which includes the ALP. They know that the socialists have long memories and are very vindictive and will make them pay when the get back into government. They are also aware that the do nothing cowards on the conservative side will not provide any legislative protection for them when they are in government and will head for the hills and deser them when a left/green government goes after them.

  11. Nighthawk the Elder

    CameronH, in the base load electricity generation industry, we were trying to give the same message, but no-one wanted to listen. Yep and now here we are.

    My take on the Australian renewables industry. That’s what you get when Arts attempts to do Engineering.

  12. PK

    Black outs in Alice Springs for up to nine hours? Because a cloud came overhead??

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