Open Forum: October 19, 2019

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  1. calli

    On bifolds.

    They are the Devil’s work.

    Get heavy duty super heavy weight tracks regardless of the weight of the doors. If you have a choice, get metal doors – timber warps.

    Invest in WD40 anti-friction lubricant.*

    If you have small children around, leave them open until they leave.

    * here’s a pre emptive one.

  2. cohenite

    The new series Watchmen running on HBO continues the riveting theme of white people bad, black people good.

  3. calli

    Lol. The Committee got page podium!

  4. Tailgunner

    I’m going to start answering
    “Have yiz gotta spare smoke, maate?”
    With…
    “Yeah,man, no worries….” *reach for the pack*
    “Answer me this….Riddle….then I’ll give yiz a fag”
    #BridgeRdLyfe

  5. Tailgunner

    Anyone know any good,short, riddles?
    DrBG, get in here
    Asking for a friend

  6. Here’s an idea you may have heard of.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunset_provision

    Should it apply to caselaw as well?

    We need rock-ribbed classical republicanism in Australia. Jury nullification. Citizen’s referenda. Participatory democracy. Certainty of law, etc.

  7. calli

    Okay, Peter. Could be something wrong with the copper. We had the lot replaced to the box (about 300m worth – thank you Telstra shareholders). If it tests okay, then the buggers are doing what they say they’re doing – maintenance.

    I share your pain. But this too will pass.

    Like a kidney stone.

  8. Tailgunner

    Lol, Calli!
    I’m stealing that image for future propoganda use.
    Epic

  9. Tailgunner

    The Committee
    John.C,
    The Ton is sooo 2019, man.

  10. DrBeauGan

    Anyone know any good,short, riddles?
    DrBG, get in here
    Asking for a friend

    Umm, how about

    ” What’s i^{-i} to two decimal places?”

  11. zyconoclast

    How is 97 percent of Congress able to get re-elected each year even though only 17 percent of the American people believe our representatives are doing a good job?

    It’s called an incumbent protection system. Taxpayers have a right to know how it works.

    Recently, our auditors at OpenTheBooks.com, mashed up the federal checkbook with the congressional campaign donor database (source: OpenSecrets.org). We found powerful members of Congress soliciting campaign donations from federal contractors based in their districts.

    We followed the money and found a culture of conflict-of-interest. The confluence of federal money, campaign cash, private employment, investments, prestigious committee appointments, political power, nepotism, and other conflicts are a fact pattern.

    Furthermore, members of Congress own investment stock in, are employed by, and receive retirement pensions from federal contractors to whom they direct billions of taxpayer dollars.

    Moreover, members sponsor legislation that affects these contractors. The contractor’s lobbyists then advocate for the legislation that helps the member and the contractor. Oftentimes, the contractor’s lobbyist also donates campaign cash to the member.

  12. Tailgunner

    Should it apply to caselaw as well?

    Hmmm….my old bestie, and Cat fav, Nick Reece, was the gun law student at some Melbourne university I think?
    Do all law talking guys have punchable looks?
    C’mon,m8, you’re with the tribe

  13. Arky

    We need rock-ribbed classical republicanism in Australia. Jury nullification. Citizen’s referenda. Participatory democracy. Certainty of law, etc.

    ..
    Stop smoking your own farts.
    None of that will ever happen.

  14. calli

    If you have small children around, leave them open until they leave.

    Chuckle.

    Leave the doors open.

    Not quite sure how you open small children. Perhaps with wonderful picture books of fairy tales and the like.

  15. zyconoclast

    Try again

    How is 97 percent of Congress able to get re-elected each year even though only 17 percent of the American people believe our representatives are doing a good job?

    It’s called an incumbent protection system. Taxpayers have a right to know how it works.

    Recently, our auditors at OpenTheBooks.com, mashed up the federal checkbook with the congressional campaign donor database (source: OpenSecrets.org). We found powerful members of Congress soliciting campaign donations from federal contractors based in their districts.

    We followed the money and found a culture of conflict-of-interest. The confluence of federal money, campaign cash, private employment, investments, prestigious committee appointments, political power, nepotism, and other conflicts are a fact pattern.

    Furthermore, members of Congress own investment stock in, are employed by, and receive retirement pensions from federal contractors to whom they direct billions of taxpayer dollars.

    Moreover, members sponsor legislation that affects these contractors. The contractor’s lobbyists then advocate for the legislation that helps the member and the contractor. Oftentimes, the contractor’s lobbyist also donates campaign cash to the member.

  16. Tailgunner

    ” What’s i^{-i} to two decimal places?”

    Ffs.
    Just terrible.
    I need more a Tolkien style one.
    Nothing that needs pictures,dude.

  17. Tailgunner

    Dot is no chinned, Hillary guy…
    Confirmed!

  18. Geriatric Mayfly

    Keneally starring at estimates as per normal. She’s a tiger for the penetrating questions that one. Currently on Medivac and I learn that two doctors have subverted our immigration programme with the admittance of 147 country shoppers, all with ingrown toenails. None, of course would have mental health problems, that’s reserved for later.

  19. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    The new series Watchmen running on HBO continues the riveting theme of white people bad, black people good.

    I’m working my way through Midsomer Murders which I haven’t seen in over a decade.
    At least three murders plus one good looking chick per episode, plus Sykes the dog.
    Who could want anything more?

  20. calli

    I sense a disturbance in The Force.

    ‘Gunner and I are on the same wavelength.

    🤣

  21. Certainty of law, etc.

    ..
    Stop smoking your own farts.
    None of that will ever happen.

    Black pilled, woke and based AF.

    Probably true, sadly.

    “Codelfa is the relevant law, but it isn’t”

    No wonder businesses consider Australia second rate.

  22. Tailgunner
    #3190032, posted on October 21, 2019 at 6:11 pm

    Dot is no chinned, Hillary guy…
    Confirmed!

    Actually I’ve done well with moving toward carnivore dieting, but I am not filled with a great sense of dread when I drink apple cider vinegar.

  23. cohenite

    Currently on Medivac and I learn that two doctors have subverted our immigration programme with the admittance of 147 country shoppers, all with ingrown toenails

    Who are the 2 bastards?

  24. calli

    Lol, Zyc.

    Too much pot.

    Here’s rare colourised footage of Gingerella. You be the judge.

  25. cohenite

    Kristina Keneally: the new Senator Sea Patrol?

    Corrine Barraclough The Spectator Australia 21 October 2019

    When Green Sarah Hanson-Young seemed to suggest she thought Sea Patrol was real, many of us thought we had achieved a low in political astuteness. It also spoke volumes about why the loony left struggle to get a firm grasp on understanding border security. Well, we were wrong.

    Enter stage far-left opposition spokeswoman for home affairs Kristina Keneally who appears to be auditioning for the role as SHY’s replacement….

    What a gal:

  26. Tailgunner

    Actually I’ve done well with moving toward carnivore dieting

    Word to that mutha.
    But when is the altRight lawyer shop opening up?
    I get a smoking monkey when I sign the papers, right?

  27. Bubbles

    Will the Dutch rewild the Zuiderzee; or, are dykes exempted.

  28. Old School Conservative

    Justin “blackface” Trudeau certainly knows how to live his own messes to the little people to clean up.

  29. cohenite

    Thanks to all who signed the petition to exit from Paris. It is not best worded since it relies on the Australia is so small in emissions argument why ruin the place, but hey baby steps, if we can get out of Paris, and give the IPCC the finger then maybe we can start building new coal and nuclear power plants.

  30. calli

    Cohenite, I’m late to the fray. Where is the petition?

  31. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Time for a Wee Willem, a glass of Shiraz, and the next episode of Midsomer Murders.

  32. Cardimona

    Yeah, but I’ve never done drag racing.

    Gunner my eldest son was living in Sydney for a while and commuting on the freeways.
    He built a new Subaru Forester into an absolute weapon.
    Multiple upgrades totalling around three times the price of the car.
    Somewhere around 400kW.
    Four wheel drive meant he won drags off the lights by a little in the dry and by a lot in the wet.
    Standing starts with 4wd on a dry road are basically right foot flat, left foot sideways off the clutch.
    Then hang on.
    While under heavy acceleration a couple of years ago it encountered a large concrete curb and lost a wheel.
    Now it languishes sadly in my back paddock….

  33. MatrixTransform

    called to order lest people think your version, steeped in vitriol as it is, is the simple truth.

    Don’t stress too much mate.
    I for one, reckon the retard just about put down his whole thesis proposal in that post of his.

    He is single handedly gonna try and post-modernise the history.

    It’s his time to shine.

    Hey Numpty, did you take a mortgage on that stupidity?

    … or do you own it outright?

  34. stackja

    CEO Adam Lang made redundant from Macquarie Media

    Nine Entertainment’s shake up of 2GB owner Macquarie Media has begun with chief executive Adam Lang being made redundant. Lang was axed from his $800,000-a-year position at the head of the radio network today.
    Matthew Benns, EDITOR-AT-LARGE, The Daily Telegraph
    Subscriber only

    October 21, 2019 5:23pm

    Nine Entertainment’s shake up of 2GB owner Macquarie Media has begun with chief executive Adam Lang being made redundant on Monday.

    Lang was axed from his $800,000-a-year position at the head of the radio network today and is expected to depart the Pyrmont building by the end of the week.

    Executive chairman Russell Tate told staff in an email that: “Adam and I have been in discussion for some time about his future opportunities within Macquarie which will undergo significant change in the next few months as our operations are integrated with those of Nine Entertainment Corporation.”

    Nine boss Hugh Marks was in the 2GB offices to talk to Alan Jones yesterday about press freedom. He is understood to be looking for $11 million in savings as the networks merge.

    Mr Tate said: “It is expected that the role of Macquarie Media CEO will become redundant under the consequential organisation structure.

    Mr Tate’s email did not mention that the radio network has been beset by problems stemming from a prolonged negotiation to get Jones resigned to his top rating breakfast slot.

    Demonstrators also campaigned outside the studios after Chris Smith was axed from his popular day timeslot.

  35. Tailgunner:
    What are the final six letters of 𝛑?

  36. MatrixTransform

    what a self obsessed wanker it is

  37. Tailgunner

    He built a new Subaru Forester into an absolute weapon
    Sik.
    Shame the valerian Steele sword is languishing so.

  38. Tailgunner

    No maths stuff, please!
    A linguistics one.
    Hmmm…
    Lizzie will have one.

  39. MatrixTransform

    particularly those who’ve served in theatres such as Vietnam.

    gold!

  40. calli

    Thanks, cohenite.

    Looks like I’m now on the watchlist.

    *pops on tinfoil hat*.

  41. Helen

    I signed the petition but was told on confirmation I had already signed it. Anyways I was looking through the other petitions and the highest scoring one was for banning glyphosate in public places. Our petion ranks second, most of the rest dont even get to 50 – seems there are not many takers for this type of signing.

  42. Bruce of Newcastle

    The current banner is abhorrent.
    The people hiding truth the most are journalists of the MSM.
    The government is the lesser sinner in this respect since FOIA exists, even if they evade it.
    MSM journalists and editors are not subject to FOIA.
    They are scum.

  43. calli

    What are the final six letters of 𝛑?

    ..llocks?

  44. Bruce of Newcastle

    What are the final six letters of 𝛑?

    Apple.

  45. Rex Mango

    ABC RN just had hilarious Zali Steggall interview where she warned of death, pestilence & famine due climate change. Now Patricia Karvelis interviewing bloke about Sydney winning this World Pride thingy in 2023. Adrian Foon, his name & mardi gras board member. His ‘conservative’ estimate is it will bring 1million visitors to Sydney. Yeah, like double what the Olympics brought. So just when you thought all SSM battles were over & mardi gras had become boring, Sydney is now going to cop a mega mardi gras.

  46. MatrixTransform

    I took a puff and then gave him a polite Seig Heil.

    I had a guy my vintage roll up on his bike to the end of trip facility.
    He looks at me and makes some idiot gesture at the wall where theres a ‘no smoking’ sign that I happen to know was placed there bay tenant of the building on level 1 whose fresh air fan for the computer room pulls some smoky smells up.

    SO I ignore him and he starts bleating
    Like yeah but cant you read the sign. der. its repulsive!
    My father died from lung cancerrrrrr.

    Gee I don’t wanna die from second had smoke !!!

    I calmly stubbed the smoke and looked at him.

    “Mate”, I says, “with a personality like yours I’m surprised you aren’t dead from a beating already”

    …and smiled

  47. Geriatric Mayfly

    A snippet in Private Eye highlights the reaction of the palace to awkward stories – silence and denial. Bluey and Meghan are currently taking the heat off HM Brenda. “But no doubt another embarrassment knocking[B&M] out of the headlines will be along soon for Brenda to ignore.”

    ROYALS
    Prince ‘joined in orgy’ with Epstein
    Court documents claim Prince Andrew was involved in an orgy with Jeffrey Epstein and nine girls on the financier’s island.

  48. Helen

    What are the final six letters of 𝛑?

    ameter
    as in

    the ratio of a circle’s circumference to its diameter.

  49. Tailgunner

    Smoking a sneaky j at pub.
    Hottie with boyfriend looks back at me and sexy smiles.
    Haha, ya wouldn’t be ded for quids,m8

  50. calli

    There’s also ..sstake.

    Winston! Naughty boy.

  51. Tailgunner

    “Mate”, I says, “with a personality like yours I’m surprised you aren’t dead from a beating already”

    Epic.
    Stolen for future deployment.

  52. Top Ender

    The aircraft carrier Akagi of the Imperial Japanese Navy has been found by RV Petrel in the Pacific.

    Quiz question: what unique feature did the Akagi have?

    Clue 1: It was shared with only one other warship in history.

  53. cohenite

    They are scum.

    And really stupid; when is the last time you saw something smart said or done by the msm; as opposed to cunning, deceitful and ignorant.

  54. Rex Mango

    ABC News lead story is about 16yo girl being strip searched at Byron Bay music festival. With all the lezbeneathen police these days, here might be where sexual predators now seek employment.

  55. Roger

    All the Cats who signed the petition never had a clue who was promoting it, when they actually signed.

    Incorrect.

    I checked out the initiator via Google.

    And you haven’t ‘signed’ until you validate your email address, the third and final step.

  56. Shy Ted

    Riddle. What is completely upright but lies all the time? MAGA hat to the winner. Will post the correct answer soon enough.

  57. What are the final six letters of 𝛑?

    Apple.

    Bloody ‘ell. I didn’t think anyone would get it!*
    (*Winston adjusts his Cubacap – now with foil lining on the inside – to a sombre angle and wanders off into the night, sulking.)

  58. Rex Mango

    TE, was it converted from a cruiser, Like the Lexington?

  59. Top Ender

    Actually, from memory it was Rex, but many ships around that time were, so that’s not the answer.

  60. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Actually, from memory it was Rex, but many ships around that time were, so that’s not the answer.

    Converted from battlecruisers, IIRC.

  61. Roger

    I remember when Janet was a conservative journalist. But it’s disturbing to watch the process by which a conservative journalist becomes a Greenie Harridan.

    I don’t know what’s happened to Janet, Winston, but her notion that it is the role of reporters….sorry, journalists , to educate the voting citizenry is not only patronising, it is dangerous.

    The job of reporters is to report facts. Educated voters – whatever happened to civics classes, btw? – then evaluate them.

  62. calli

    Hmmmm. It was a trick question. How about that.

  63. Cactus

    Top ender. Did the Akagi have the superstructure on the left, sorry, erm port side?

  64. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    ABC News lead story is about 16yo girl being strip searched at Byron Bay music festival.

    Sydney Morning Herald reports seven minors as being strip searched at said festival.

  65. Top Ender

    Jeez Cactus, you’re no fun! That is absolutely correct.

    One of two carriers in history to have their deck so arranged.

    I will post some stuff from one of my books about it in a sec.

  66. Rex Mango

    Story on ABC TV News about Aust soldiers firing on protesters 9yrs ago in Afghan. Footage of hundreds of protesters advancing on their position & rocking them before camera cuts out. Eerily similar to the scene from The Man Who Would Be King

  67. Nick

    It’s interesting reading the comments by the same people at the SMH who whined about Westconnex and the need for more public transport, whine about the new Metro line.

  68. Shy Ted

    There’s a chick on The Dumb with a culturally appropriated T shirt which reads “The future is first nations”. Yay, no more having to go to work!

  69. Shy Ted

    And everyone will wander round naked. Not sure I’d like that.

  70. stackja

    Nick
    #3190105, posted on October 21, 2019 at 7:14 pm
    It’s interesting reading the comments by the same people at the SMH who whined about Westconnex and the need for more public transport, whine about the new Metro line.

    And whine about losing their morning cereal to drought?

  71. Rex Mango

    7.30 Report advertising their story tonight during the News, about reporting on reaction to their story from Thursday night about racehorses being dispatched. Can’t wait for more gratuitous animal cruelty footage.

  72. Cactus

    Sorry TE. Which was the other ship? I thought it was the only one.

    I lost about half a day one time reading about Midway. Everyone kept talking about how pivotal it was. Read somewhere there was about a 90sec difference between the Japanese being in the ascendancy shooting down waves of US aircraft to the US when the 2nd wave hit paydort.

  73. stackja

    Take care of Vic poor in climate fight
    Victoria’s poorest communities risk being penalised if the state government fails to respond to climate change fairly, a new report says.
    Australian Associated Press
    October 21, 2019 6:43pm

    Victoria’s poor and disadvantaged communities face an insurmountable financial challenge as the state attempts to tackle climate change, a new report says.

    The Victorian Council of Social Service fears vulnerable groups, including people in public housing, and Aboriginal, rural and coastal communities, risk being left behind in the fight against global warming.

    “If you are struggling to keep up with day-to-day expenses, protecting yourself from the impacts of climate change can be an insurmountable challenge,” the council’s A Climate of Fairness report, to be released on Monday says.

    Council chief executive Emma King says the state government should scrap moves to make renters chip in for solar panels, under a planned tenant-landlord loan and rebate scheme.

    “There shouldn’t be any up-front cost to renters if a landlord wants to upgrade their investment property,” Ms King said.

    The co-payment forces tenants to pay for an upgrade to a house they don’t own, while the landlord scoops up the improved capital value, the council argues.

    More free stuff using OPM.

  74. Rex Mango

    TE, that is amazing when you think about it, but pilot’s always sit on the left and traditionally fly left handed circuits, so starboard island makes sense. Never thought about it before and have viewed Top Gun many times.

  75. Top Ender

    More on Akagi.

    Actually if the two carriers have been found this quickly, one presumes the Petrel people have done their research well, and the other two will soon follow. This will reveal all final resting places of the four sunk at Midway – the same four which attacked Darwin.

    The longer carrier in the Japanese force, at 855 feet (261 metres) Akagi stretched further than a soccer field – 130 yards / 119 metres – and comparatively massive in breadth and displacement, roughly equivalent to the larger USA carriers. Like many aircraft carriers in the world at that time, she was a hybrid ship, a carrier deck built on battlecruiser or battleship lines; in Akagi’s case the former. Oddly, she was originally heavily armed with guns – the main armament of carriers being their aircraft – a leftover from her early planning as a conventional line of battle vessel. Even at Midway it would seem she possessed six or eight eight-inch guns.

    and

    Akagi and Hiryu both – most notably and oddly – had their islands placed to the port, or left, side of the ship. This was related to the constant experimenting which was being carried on in the carrier world at the time of construction. In fact, exactly how an aircraft carrier’s vitals should be arranged would occupy designer for decades more to come.

    Sources differ as to the reasoning for the placement: one suggesting it was “an experiment in determining whether this characteristic would improve flight patterns when operating a mixed task force of port-sided and starboard-sided carriers.” Another states that the rationale was as the result of 1930s design studies which showed that “turbulence over the flight deck aft (which affected aircraft during landing) could be reduced by moving the island away from the ship’s exhaust gases.” Yet another suggests: “the island was placed on the starboard side because early (propeller) aircraft turned to the left more easily (an effect of engine torque). Obviously such an aircraft can execute a wave-off to the left more easily, so the island was put to starboard to be out of the way. Another idea was to allow two carriers to operate extremely closely; the left and right islands of a pair allowing maximum visibility as they steamed alongside, but there is no evidence of this from Japanese archives so far.

    Akagi even had a downward-pointing main funnel on the starboard side, showing the type of experiments that had been undertaken to control the flow of heated air and how it might affect aircraft performance. Whatever the rationale, these two ships, despite their different class and ten years of thinking inbetween their construction, spent their lives with their islands to the left. At least their pilots could not get confused and land on the sister ships Kaga and Soryu… landing on the wrong deck indeed something that has indeed happened in the tremendously intricate world of carrier operations. Akagi and Hiryu remain the only two carriers in the history of the marque to have islands to port. But once the starboard side position was established and a few carriers were built in that configuration, it became difficult to change.

    from Carrier Attack

  76. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Read somewhere there was about a 90sec difference between the Japanese being in the ascendancy shooting down waves of US aircraft to the US when the 2nd wave hit paydort.

    That’s my understanding, as well – wave after wave of aircraft annihilated without a single hit, then the dive-bombers struck.

  77. stackja

    Speedway at Clyde to close for Sydney Metro West facility

    Speedway officials are in shock after learning an international track will be demolished to make way for the Sydney Metro West rail line.
    Joanne Vella, Parramatta Advertiser
    Subscriber only

    October 21, 2019 6:42pm

    Furious Valvoline Raceway officials have warned the State Government’s failure to consult them about demolishing the track will throw the sport in Australia into disarray.

    The speedway business director Felicity Waldron said the government had not indicated the track would be used for the underground transport network despite two years of renegotiating to renew a Crown land lease that expires in 2026.

    Negotiations were undertaken in an effort to overhaul the dilapidated 42-year-old track with new stands, a hotel and a carpark.

  78. stackja

    Potts Point: Three people face court over alleged police brawl

    Three people, including a young mother, who were allegedly involved in wild scenes outside a Potts Point hotel at the weekend that left five police officers in hospital have appeared in court.
    Heath Parkes-Hupton, Central Sydney
    Subscriber only

    October 21, 2019 1:35pm

    On Monday Magistrate Robert Williams heard mother-of-one Andersen attempted to distract police while her partner Usaia — who was allegedly caught on CCTV in the midst of the brawl — ran from the scene.

    The 24-year-old allegedly “intercepted” police chasing Usaia, “dug a nail” into one officer’s arm and “screamed incoherently” in his face, the court heard.

    In her defence it was argued that the warehouse worker’s role in the incident “may yet be seen as somewhat minor”, and that she had no criminal history.

    Her partner, who the court heard had a “lengthy” criminal history including violent incidents where police were “directly victims”, will remain behind bars after his bail application was refused.

    Older brother Tuni Usaia did not apply for bail and it was formally refused.

    The 34-year-old, from Airds, was charged with affray, causing grievous bodily harm to police, four counts of assault police in the line of duty causing actual bodily harm, two counts of assault police in line of duty and resisting arrest.

    He will return to court on December 19.

  79. Knuckle Dragger

    Matrix, 6.41 pm;

    ‘theatres such as Vietnam’

    Wasted.

    He didn’t get it.

  80. Rex Mango

    TE, what are your thoughts on the new Canberra Class LHD’s.

  81. stackja

    As I remember at Midway, Japs sank a Coral Sea ‘sunk’ carrier.

  82. Farmer Gez

    Tailgunner
    #3190083, posted on October 21, 2019 at 6:58 pm
    Smoking a sneaky j at pub.
    Hottie with boyfriend looks back at me and sexy smiles.
    Haha, ya wouldn’t be ded for quids,m8.

    This can’t end well.
    How big is said boyfriend or worse, is he a bantam weight champion?

  83. Overburdened

    Thanks CJ.

    OK.

    Agree bifold lacks strength but hopefully target hardening enough so that they won’t get that far.

    Hopefully I will be indoors when they turn up.

    Glad you didn’t say no to them.

  84. Bruce of Newcastle

    But once the starboard side position was established and a few carriers were built in that configuration, it became difficult to change.

    Carriers are right-handed like people?
    I wonder…

    (All sulfur crested cockatoos are naturally left handed, so it doesn’t extend to other aerial operations. Try it: toss a bit of bread to a cocky and see which side it holds it with.)

  85. Old School Conservative

    And we’ve only had five dropouts today.
    So far.

    Peter f.k.a.m., you’d be happy that the boss of NBN had his salary doubled this financial year from approx 1.2 mill to 2.4 mill.
    I guess your dropouts are simply part of his KPIs.

  86. Tailgunner

    What is completely upright but lies all the time? MAGA hat to the winner

    Yes!
    I don’t know the answer. Perfect

  87. Top Ender

    Hi Rex – I was allowed to get a guided tour of an LHD to write an article. a while back.

    I’ll see if I can find it – was printed in a few mags. Might be a bit long, so will have to beg Cat indulgence and urge them to scroll past.

  88. Tailgunner

    I’m about to beat the $3 delivery time insurance bet.
    Haha
    Alinskys Rules, dominoes!

  89. Overburdened

    Calli

    I’m the one to the viewers right.

    Thanks. Intend to have robust ones anyhow and you are right of course.

    I just did some house sitting in mid NQ.

    I recommend Inox dry lube spray for sliders that are very poorly maintained (no offence just sayin).

    You didn’t say no either and I thank you for that.

  90. Top Ender:

    Quiz question: what unique feature did the Akagi have?

    It had the flight operations island put on the wrong side of the ship so it could land planes when it was in reverse?

  91. Rex Mango

    7.30 Report now finished with story about Opal Tower & now onto thoroughbreds being slaughtered at Meramist Abattoir.

  92. Overburdened

    Hey Tailgunner you are on fire.

    I was until the unfortunate blockbuster/ block fiasco.

    Be careful out there.

  93. Boambee John

    Top Ender
    #3190086, posted on October 21, 2019 at 7:01 pm
    The aircraft carrier Akagi of the Imperial Japanese Navy has been found by RV Petrel in the Pacific.

    Quiz question: what unique feature did the Akagi have?

    Clue 1: It was shared with only one other warship in history.

    Port side island?

  94. MatrixTransform

    I recommend Inox dry lube spray for sliders

    In my experience aluminium and WD40 don’t mix.
    Dunno why
    every time that stuff is sprayed into industrial air conditioning dampers they seize

  95. Overburdened

    I’ve got a riddle.

    What am I?

    I’m purplish red without a head.

    Without me you would turn to salt.

    (Or something like that)

  96. Top Ender

    Rex, as discussed. I left the picture captions for the article in place. As you can see, I didn’t discuss the vexed question of when is the fixed-wing component arriving.

    What aircraft carrier is that?

    By Top Ender

    The size of a new Australian aircraft carrier is what first impresses you. These ships are huge – the biggest ever operated by the Navy. At 27, 850 tonnes they are 7,850 more displacement tonnes than the old carrier Melbourne, the fixed wing ship which finished up in 1984, when the Hawke Government decided to get the country out of the carrier business. With that decision went a whole heap of capability skill sets. But now they are being re-learnt.

    The Navy doesn’t call these two ships – HMAS Adelaide and HMAS Canberra – aircraft carriers. They call them Amphibious Assault Ships, but also LHDs – Landing, Helicopter, Dock vessels. But your average civilian would look at these monsters and see a floating runway; superstructure on the right hand side – could be called an island – and see an aircraft carrier. So what’s the difference?

    First, these ships carry helicopters, not fixed wing jets. The “ski jump” on the bow remains – it is part of the design and helps lift conventional planes into the air, although the LHDs may never carry them. Removing the ski-jump, which weighs hundreds of tonnes, would change the ship’s handling dramatically and require a lot of work. So it was left in place.

    Second, these ships are designed around a different concept. They are not to project airpower, but rather land power, for they are to carry infantry which can be put ashore by the ship’s helicopters, and also its landing craft – the “Landing” part of the title, which leave the LHD for their destination through the stem doors, which would be opened to flood the rear section: a giant Dock.

    It’s quite a complicated equation. Even though as a retired Navy bloke, and someone who had experienced land warfare, I understood the concepts well enough, it’s another deal to walk down into the Dock – fortunately dry at the time – and feel dwarfed by the very size of a giant cavernous space, inside the stern of the vessel.

    Everything else about the LHDs is big too. Their crew is 450 strong, with 62 of them Army, working closely in concert with the Navy people in order to bring about the concept of putting troops ashore. There is not one storage deck but two – they call them “Vehicle” decks, and they are capable of carrying a number of the big Abrams 65-tonne (Main Battle Tank) monsters the modern Australian Army use. There are side doors as well, which can link to a wharf. The engines are big: pods which can rotate to bring a delicacy of handling to the ship which is surprising.

    But many warrior-types I speak to want to know just one thing. How many infantry can this ship put ashore? It’s a difficult question. The first landings would be from a company – 120 soldiers, but they’d be backed up by all that would be necessary: artillery, a headquarters section, signals, and so on. The helicopters would if necessary transfer more troops out to a defensive arc. Officially, each LHD can put up to 1000 soldiers ashore.

    How many helicopters? The hanger can accommodate up to eight medium sized machines with 18 medium sized helicopters able to be carried if the light vehicle deck is also used. Like everything measurable about an LHD, it all depends on what you want to do on the mission. Over 100 vehicles can be carried but that would be so long as you weren’t cramming the ship with tanks. Your load-out is going to be very different for a humanitarian rescue mission as opposed to an infantry assault.

    I was impressed by the shiny new feel of the ship, but then again she is still pretty much a recent arrival. The ship’s company morale is high: they’ve got one of the most capable platforms in the world and they know it.

    For those of us, including me, concerned about defence of the vessel, that’s where the new Air Warfare Destroyers come in. Three of them are rolling out of the yards, and in a hostile situation that’s where they would be: protecting an LHD. There’s close-up defence on board the LHD too: 20mm Typhoon chain guns are mounted at the “corners” of the ship: two at the bow and two at the stern. There’s also spots for the trusty 50 calibre (12.7mm) machine guns, and a towed Nixie anti-torpedo defence system.

    All up, the two new LHDs represent a big step up for naval and amphibious capability in the Australian forces. A big well done to all concerned.

    -o-o-O-o-o-

    The writer would like to thank Lieutenant-Colonel James Parkins for facilitating his tour of HMAS Adelaide, and also Captain Tony Rayner RAN and Commodore Lee Goddard RAN.

    Top Ender is a military historian and former naval officer. A recent book is Honour Denied: Teddy Sheean, a Tasmanian Hero.

    Captions:

    Comparison of HMAS Adelaide and the former aircraft carrier HMAS Melbourne. (Courtesy Aussie Modeler)

    A Field Gun from 23 Light Battery, 4/3 The Royal New South Wales Regiment, looks out over Sydney Harbour as HMAS Adelaide positions herself in front of Circular Quay as part of Australia Day 2016 festivities. (ADF photo)

    Petty Officer Andrew Rigby, left, Able Seaman Alan Patterson, 2nd from left, and Seaman Kaylin Coleman, right, show recruit candidates Aaron O’Brien and Mimi Marou the control console in the bridge while touring HMAS Adelaide. (Navy)

    All other supplied photos should be credited as (Author photo)

  97. Bruce of Newcastle

    What am I?
    I’m purplish red without a head.
    Without me you would turn to salt.

    Sounds like you might be i^-i.

  98. calli

    There are some applications that require bi-folds. You either install them or have a massive double door arc.

    I made the fatal mistake of having them made to order by a very expensive and well-known joiner. Typical choice of the carpenter’s daughter. I should have gone to a metal fabricator and had them done in powder coated aluminium.

    Live and learn.

  99. Boambee John

    I was late to the quiz!

  100. MatrixTransform

    left overs
    pan fried veal steaks stewed in onion, tomato, garlic, parsley, capers and anchovies.
    Baked potato chips drizzled with fresh sage from the garden fried in butter and lemon juice.
    Broccoli because it looks pretty

  101. Bruce in WA

    Quiz question: what unique feature did the Akagi have?

    I bow to your superior knowledge, but I had some inkling somewhere in the back of my febrile little brain that they had stacked flight decks; one on top of each other????

  102. stackja

    Who at the ABC remembers their horse racing commentator Joe Brown?

  103. Bruce of Newcastle

    The Navy doesn’t call these two ships – HMAS Adelaide and HMAS Canberra – aircraft carriers.

    If it looks like an aircraft carrier and acts like an aircraft carrier it obviously is a…destroyer.
    Until it stops being a destroyer, LHD or furry animal. 😀

    Japan Plans to Convert the Izumo-class Into a True Aircraft Carrier? (2018)

    I remember when the Izumo first launched and was called a destroyer. I told some DFAT weenies and they were quite surprised by my view that it was actually an aircraft carrier.

  104. Bruce in WA

    left overs
    pan fried veal steaks stewed in onion, tomato, garlic, parsley, capers and anchovies.
    Baked potato chips drizzled with fresh sage from the garden fried in butter and lemon juice.
    Broccoli because it looks pretty

    Thanks for that.

    (Slouches off, opens freezer door, selects Lite’n’easy meal for defrosting …)

  105. Overburdened

    BoN

    +1

    I’m carbon based.

  106. Rex Mango

    TE, thanks, good article. About time for the air force to start learning how to operate their F35’s off the Canberra Class.

  107. classical_hero

    Not sure if this has been posted but here’s why Gabbard is garbage.

    https://twitter.com/badluck_jones/status/1185728764061405185?s=19

  108. Overburdened

    Calli

    Thanks for the tip. Nothing beats experience.

    Been looking at various configurations and will be guided by your thoughts.

  109. egg_

    Q&A
    Future Alert

    Guest host Annabel Crabb is joined by John Hewson, Jordan Nguyen, Veena Sahajwalla, Julian Cribb and Chloe Spackman to discuss whether our government is capable of addressing potential disasters threatening human survival.

  110. Cactus

    Being a WW2 navy pilot would have been a tough gig. Id imagine doing the mission, then trying to come back and find you carrier would be difficult. Especially in bad weather. If you dont get all that right you ditch in the ocean with no hope of rescue.

  111. Gab

    John Hewson, is he STILl alive?

    As for these, never heard of them: Jordan Nguyen, Veena Sahajwalla, Julian Cribb and Chloe Spackman

  112. Bruce of Newcastle

    Overburdened – I did try solving DrB’s riddle i^-i and got nowhere. Your solution sounds better than my mix of x’s, logs and generally bad algebra scribble.

  113. Overburdened

    WD40 has limited use and is really good.

    No good for doors, sliding or hung, or fishing reels.

    Not that great for bicycle chains really. You tend to use a lot.

  114. Stimpson J. Cat

    particularly those who’ve served in theatres such as Vietnam.

    I served with distinction in the theatre of Hoyts,
    where I heroically told an obese man brandishing an extra large Popcorn and Coke to shut up and watch the movie.
    And he did.
    You don’t see me asking for medals.

  115. Knuckle Dragger

    Just booked flights to Melbournistan in a couple of months’ time.

    My friend has a ballistic vest which I suspect I’ll need. If I wear it on board it won’t count as carry on and I’ll dodge the weight limit.

    #fuckyouqantas

  116. Overburdened

    BoN

    Im a low tech person.

  117. Stimpson J. Cat

    What is completely upright but lies all the time? MAGA hat to the winner

    A Woman standing up.

  118. Geriatric Mayfly

    “If you are struggling to keep up with day-to-day expenses, protecting yourself from the impacts of climate change can be an insurmountable challenge,” the council’s A Climate of Fairness report, to be released on Monday says.

    Lots to do and no end of expense in building defences against the impacts of global warming. A seawall to bid the mounting tides be gone, then a bushfire dugout, a brick bathroom for cyclones and tornadoes, lightning conductors, HMS Tinny for the floods, a greenhouse for survival vegies. Fairness would make other demands as day-to-day expenses continue to accrue.

  119. Knuckle Dragger

    Liability Bob’s other theatre of operations was the Enoggera flicks, where he once told an anonymous and fictional Army bloke to stop staring at the noggie kids he found in Darwin Harbour.

  120. Overburdened

    KD

    Ah the Paris of the south.

    If you wake up with confused amnesia with a condom intimately placed and a dollar in your hand, you will know you have been culturally educated.

  121. Rex Mango

    TE, re starboard islands, just found this as to why aircraft traditionally do left hand circuits:

    One other thing to note. Standard airport traffic patterns have the airplane turn left. We’re taught that this is because early airplanes like the Sopwith Camel had clockwise rotating rotary engines and propellers. The engine and propeller are a gyroscope and have a great gyroscopic effect on a light airplane like the Sopwith Camel. Gyroscopic procession for a clockwise rotating engine and propeller meant that right tuns tended to force the airplane down into the ground (bad) but left turns tended to force the airplane up (good as long as you don’t stall). Also, pilots sit in the left seat, so they can see where they’re going in a left turn.

  122. Old Lefty

    Don’t be cruel to Kristina. She must be all at sea now that she doesn’t have Obeid and Tripodi to tell her what to do.

  123. kaysee

    A suggestion for an annual Cat award: The Gilletted Trophy. The award is to be given each year (voted by Cats in December) to the company/organisation that has best proven the Get Woke, Go Broke maxim.
    .
    Current short list includes:
    Gillette
    Victoria’s Secret
    Wallabies/Rugby Australia
    Air Canada
    .
    Nominations now open ….
    .
    However, it is likely that the winner this year will be the one after which the award has been named, as the others haven’t yet had the time to manage $8 billion non-cash write-down.
    .
    Though, in wokeland one can never be sure what can happen in the next two months.

  124. Overburdened

    KD

    Apologies for being obtuse, but this is a family friendly site.

    Plus it’s hard to imagine an Alpha in such circumstances.

    It would be good to tell someone a story about a pretender to boxing greatness who was unfortunately a gangster associated with the P&Ds.

  125. Cassie of Sydney

    “Stimpson J. Cat
    #3190171, posted on October 21, 2019 at 8:14 pm

    Stimpson…the eternal misogynist.

  126. Old Lefty

    In Fatty’s favour, if course, is that he has John Cain III in the ‘independent’ and ‘apolitical’ Office of Public Prosecutions to shield him: not enough evidence, not in the public interest etc

  127. Bruce of Newcastle

    Q&A
    Future Alert

    Hmmm…

    John Hewson, Former Leader of the Liberal Party
    Veena Sahajwalla, Inventor and Director, Centre for Sustainable Materials Research and Technology
    Julian Cribb, Science Writer and Journalist
    Jordan Nguyen, Engineer, Futurist, and Broadcaster
    Chloë Spackman, Director of Programs, Australian Futures Project

    Woe the End is Nigh!

  128. RobK

    signed
    Thank you Cohenite.

    Also signed.

  129. Knuckle Dragger

    All good OB.

    I know that waking up alley too. Just behind the arcades on Russell Street.

    Ask for Phuc.

    BYO dollar.

  130. Stimpson J. Cat

    A suggestion for an annual Cat award: The Gilletted Trophy. The award is to be given each year (voted by Cats in December) to the company/organisation that has best proven the Get Woke, Go Broke maxim.

    Here’s your winner sweetheart.

  131. Overburdened

    Apologies also for using the term Alpha.

    Being a hard arsed bastard because you are and can be is not in the vernacular these days.

  132. Old Lefty

    The ABC is now running a pile-on against St Kevin’s in Toorak over loutish behaviour on a tram. Imagine if it was a state school: we would never hear a word.

  133. Bruce of Newcastle

    Not that great for bicycle chains really. You tend to use a lot.

    Damn fine for bicycle chains.
    Excellent for keeping the derailleurs from getting sticky too.
    My one can of WD-40 has nearly outlasted two treadlies, as my current one is now getting arthritic.

  134. Stimpson J. Cat

    Stimpson…the eternal misogynist.

    Silly girl.
    Nothing is eternal, especially me.
    Which kind of proves my point, yes?
    Where’s my hat guys?
    😁

  135. Geriatric Mayfly

    The ABC is now running a pile-on against St Kevin’s in Toorak over loutish behaviour on a tram. Imagine if it was a state school: we would never hear a word.

    The alma mater of the Pell mystery witness. Things have definitely gone downhill since the days he attended.

  136. Bruce of Newcastle

    Here’s your winner sweetheart.

    Everlast has to stand in line behind Victoria’s Secret, Sports Illustrated, Rugby Australia and Kelloggs.
    Packed field for the GWGB Olympics this year.

  137. RobK

    In my experience aluminium and WD40 don’t mix.
    Dunno why
    every time that stuff is sprayed into industrial air conditioning dampers they seize

    In situations where a sticky thick film of lube is required (such as where grease is normally used) thin film penetrating oil will actually tend to wash out any remaining oil. Dry waxy lube would be better for door tracks. Spray cans of bike chain oil are useful for lube where stickiness is required.

  138. Don’t be cruel to Kristina. She must be all at sea now that she doesn’t have Obeid and Tripodi to tell her what to do.

    She’s also just about completed the transitioning to “Frightbat”.
    Quite a come-down from her former Alexa Ocasio-Cortez standard of hotness.
    She’ll realise one day soon that for some reason people no longer pay attention to her, & will have no idea why, though being told to “cover up” rather than to get around in tennis-player length miniskirts may provide a clue, which she’ll be too dense to pick up on.

  139. Top Ender

    Mmm – your first points are fair Rex, but pretty well all carrier aircraft up to and into WWII were single seat only or had single seat configuration through the fuselage – eg: two seaters like the Val had the gunner behind the pilot.

  140. Nick

    St Kevin’s should recruit some Sudanese boys. The ABC would be silent

  141. Rex Mango

    For carrier fans out there with 50min to kill, here’s great talk from Coral Sea veteran. The scene he describes aboard Lexington after they’d launched their aircraft and the captain puts the radio traffic through the loudspeaker, so everyone can hear the pilots press home their attack, must’ve been inspiration for the scene in Star Wars where they listen to the attack on the Death Star. Also fantastic anecdote about Butch O’Hare shooting down 5 aircraft attacking the Lexington to get the Medal of Honour:

  142. Bruce of Newcastle

    Spray cans of bike chain oil are useful for lube where stickiness is required.

    Dust and stickiness not good.
    One can WD-40 = 30,000 km roughly.

  143. Des Deskperson

    ‘Julian Cribb, Science Writer and Journalist’

    Julia Cribb is or was a chronic writer of angry/hysterical letters to the Canberra Times

    All you need to know about him.

  144. egg_

    Woe the End is Nigh!

    Solution?
    More OPM, natch.

  145. Geriatric Mayfly

    Oz Headline. Fewer than 1 in 10 reffos brought here under Medivac have hospital treatment on arrival.

    Those figurative two doctors have had their diagnostic skills it severely tested, especially when peering at these shysters down the telephone. Phelps will be twirling her stethoscope at the hews.

  146. Top Ender

    Being a WW2 navy pilot would have been a tough gig.

    Indeed so. The best account I know of to understand it is Aircraft Carrier by John Winton.

    Set on a Brit carrier in the Pacific in WWII. Fiction, but Winton was ex-RN and a wonderful researcher.

    He also wrote a satirical comedy series which started with We Joined the Navy. Others were:

    We Saw the Sea
    Down the Hatch
    Never Go to Sea
    All the Nice Girls
    Good Enough for Nelson

    featuring many of the same characters. Anyone who’s served in any force would enjoy the mixture of wry truth and idiocy which constitutes much armed services work.

    He was also a great historian. Carrier Glorious is perhaps the best – revealed the criminal negligence which saw that aircraft carrier sunk in 1940.

    I interviewed Winton in Wales in the 1990s – very pleasant chap, and possessed of an enviable writing style. Sadly died in 2001.

    Books available on AbeBooks and similar sites.

  147. cohenite

    classical_hero

    #3190160, posted on October 21, 2019 at 8:04 pm

    Not sure if this has been posted but here’s why Gabbard is garbage.

    https://twitter.com/badluck_jones/status/1185728764061405185?s=19

    Yep; she has bewitched such insightful media luminaries as Tucker Carlson. Someone like her could give Trump a run; the rest of them are complete idiots. Fortunately the demorats won’t pick her because they’re insane.

  148. Top Ender:

    The Navy doesn’t call these two ships – HMAS Adelaide and HMAS Canberra – aircraft carriers. They call them Amphibious Assault Ships, but also LHDs – Landing, Helicopter, Dock vessels. But your average civilian would look at these monsters and see a floating runway; superstructure on the right hand side – could be called an island – and see an aircraft carrier. So what’s the difference?

    They look very nice. I’m hopeful they do the job they were designed for, but – because I’m a pessimist and I’ve watched everything the government touches turn to shit – I can see them being used outside of their design parameters and outside of their doctrinal requirements.
    For example, I bet some bright bunny in DoD is already talking about adding four or so F35s or Harriers to the cargo and deciding they are, in fact, aircraft carriers.
    TE, I hate being so pessimistic, but I have little confidence the Defence establishment is capable of carrying out its primary function, and as is usual the main cost of bleeding and dying will be carried out by the ordinary soldier/seaman/airman while we desperately build and gather the weapons and stores in wartime that should have been built and bought in peacetime.
    Rant over.

  149. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Fewer than one in 10 medivac refugees need hospital care

    Ben Packham
    DEFENCE AND FOREIGN AFFAIRS SPOKESMAN
    @bennpackham
    44 minutes ago October 21, 2019
    28 Comments

    Fewer than one in 10 refugees and asylum-seekers transferred to Australia under Labor-backed medivac laws has required hospital treatment, and none is currently receiving in-patient care.

    Operation Sovereign Borders head Craig Furini told Senate ­estimates on Monday that just 13 medical-transfer detainees, out of 135 brought to Australia so far, had been hospitalised.

    “As of this morning, there are zero of those transferred in hospital,” Major General Furini said.

    He also revealed that six people had been transferred to Australia under the legislation despite security concerns, and a further two had been approved for transfer despite similar character concerns.

    Five people transferred under the laws had refused treatment after arriving in Australia, and a further 43 had refused chest­ X-rays or pathology tests.

    The Senate heard 10 detainees in Port Moresby had been ­approved for transfer but were unable to travel because they were being held under PNG law.

    As the government prepares to introduce legislation to overturn the medivac laws, General Furini said all refugees and asylum-seekers who had been transferred remained in Australia.

    Home Affairs Department secretary Mike Pezzullo said it was a “grievous flaw in the legislation” that detainees could be brought to Australia for assessment without the ability to return them to offshore processing.

    “(If) the assessment leads to the conclusion … that, well, actually there is no further treatment required, there is no ability to ­return,” he said.

    Mr Pezzullo also rejected claims of a “crisis” in refugees ­arriving by plane, saying just 0.23 per cent of those entering the country with valid visas went on to claim protection visas.

    Labor home affairs spokeswoman Kristina Keneally tackled Mr Pezzullo in Senate ­estimates on Monday over onshore refugee claims, which she argues are at crisis levels. Mr Pezzullo confirmed there were 92,000 onshore claims in the past five years from more than four million ­arrivals. He said trying to get that number down would deliver a “vanishingly small return”.

    From the Oz.

  150. Rex Mango

    TE, think the point is that due gyroscopic effect of clockwise rotating props, aircraft turn left better and so even in single seaters, left handed circuits are the norm.

  151. egg_

    which she’ll be too dense to pick up on.

    Eye candy has a use-by date.

  152. calli

    In my experience aluminium and WD40 don’t mix.

    WD-40 is the Brand.

    Specialist Antifriction Dry PFTE Lubricant is the product name. It’s a dry film and is useful in the tracks of bi-fold doors.

  153. RobK

    Spray cans of bike chain oil
    I should have said motor bike chain oil. You’re probably right that treadlies are better off just having the penetration of light oil because the loading is fairly light. Motor bike/ machinery chain used to be cooked in hot grease at service intervals.

  154. Rex Mango

    Just watching 4Corners expose & geez this Nicola Gobbo got about. Police recruited her as a source when at law school & she gave them her drug dealer live in boyfriend. Used to drink with the cops too. Then became a defence barrister. What an absolute circus. Victoria just needs to be wound up and sold.

  155. egg_

    In my experience aluminium and WD40 don’t mix.

    If your nuts are rusty, this chick can loosen them.

  156. Rex Mango

    Guess that these days some of those old questions about being of good character etc to become a barrister, might seem a tad discriminatory.

  157. Geriatric Mayfly

    Five people transferred under the laws had refused treatment after arriving in Australia, and a further 43 had refused chest­ X-rays or pathology tests.

    Recall the utter bullshit being bandied about at the time of Phelp’s cunning plan, as to how these scammers were all at death’s door, and the heartlessness, cruelty etc etc etc attendant on them not being given access to mainland care.

  158. Rex Mango

    George Pell’s defence team need to merely tender a DVD of tonight’s episode of Four Corners, then rest their case.

  159. calli

    Is there a “like” button for the blowtorch and nut splitter? 😁

  160. The Sherriff

    The ABC pile-on against St Kevin’s is an implicit admission that private schoolchildren have superior standards of behaviour, manners and etiquette. If loutish behaviour were a norm then they could never run this story.

    Why no stories about poor behaviour at Hawthorn Secondary? Because it’s expected…

  161. zyconoclast

    C_H you beat me to it.

  162. Rex Mango

    Nicola Gobbo went public against Vicpol in 2010 & said she wasn’t able to get any justice. That is real pot, kettle stuff.

  163. zyconoclast

    Is there a “like” button for the blowtorch and nut splitter? 😁

    NSFW

    Watch from 4:50

  164. QandA forum is open

    Get your bids in you rabble of rowdy rebels

  165. DrBeauGan

    Overburdened – I did try solving DrB’s riddle i^-i and got nowhere. Your solution sounds better than my mix of x’s, logs and generally bad algebra scribble.

    Take (natural) logs to get -i ln i. Since e^iπ = -1, e^iπ/2 = i so ln i = iπ/2. Multiply by -i to get π/2. Now unlog by exponentiating and i^-i = e^π/2. Which is 4.81047738096535 and a lot more digits.

    Apologies to everyone except BoN.

  166. pete m

    Riddle. What is completely upright but lies all the time?

    A mattress?

    What am I?
    I’m purplish red without a head.
    Without me you would turn to salt.

    Pepper?

  167. Rex Mango

    4 Corners & Michael Brissendon have launched every weapon at their disposal directly at Fatty Ashton in that 45min episode.

  168. Arky

    If loutish behaviour were a norm then they could never run this story.

    ..
    Private schools just produce a better quality lout.

  169. Beertruk

    cohenite
    #3190057, posted on October 21, 2019 at 6:34 pm

    Signed Matey.

  170. P

    calli #3190150, posted on October 21, 2019 at 7:53 pm

    There are some applications that require bi-folds. You either install them or have a massive double door arc.
    I made the fatal mistake of having them made to order by a very expensive and well-known joiner. Typical choice of the carpenter’s daughter. I should have gone to a metal fabricator and had them done in powder coated aluminium.

    I was married for 42yrs to a carpenter. No doors or windows in our house would ever be made from aluminium. All had to be timber. My husband knew his timbers. Over the years he replaced all the timber windows in our home with Western Red Cedar. We had walls and ceilings replaced with cedar. All our windows eventually were replaced with WRC. No bi-fold, but we did have bar-doors.

    When he passed from this earth I was advised by the funeral director of the type of coffin to use. I couldn’t sleep all that night and the next day I went back to them and ordered a real timber coffin. It was real timber – North Coast Camphor Laurel. It cost me 13yrs ago more than $1,000 more than that originally suggested to me.
    I rest peacefully now knowing that I chose real timber.
    I was a carpenter’s wife.

  171. Arky

    What type of coffin would you like to be buried in Stimpson?

  172. RobK

    A moving story P. Good on you.

  173. Arky

    RobK
    #3190264, posted on October 21, 2019 at 9:26 pm

    ..
    Yes.
    Not having a shot at P.
    But put a warning on those links Stimpson.

  174. zyconoclast

    One of the world’s leading fund managers has been forced to resign after the BBC discovered he had broken investment rules.

    Mark Denning helped to manage more than $300bn (£229bn; €265bn) of investors’ money at Capital Group.

    BBC One’s Panorama uncovered evidence that suggests he was secretly acquiring shares for his own benefit in some of the same companies as his funds.

    Mr Denning, who had worked at the firm for 36 years, denies any wrongdoing.

    The 62-year-old fund manager left his job five days after Panorama wrote to Capital Group about the findings of its investigation.

    Capital Group – which manages almost $2 trillion of assets – said Mr Denning was no longer with the firm.

    “We have a Code of Ethics and personal investing disclosure requirements that hold our associates to the highest standards of conduct. When we learned of this matter, we took immediate action,” it said.

  175. calli

    Western Red Cedar (Thuja plicata) factoid – crush the leaves and you can smell apples. Even the sawdust smells delicious.

    And the sulphur crested cockies love it too. Mmmm…mmm. Had a house clad in it, Stegbar windows and internal boarding. Beautiful stuff. But very high maintenance.

  176. egg_

    Rocket science for tinfoil hatters.

  177. Write that (i)^-i as in what i represents (square root of -1) and it gets ridiculous.

    As for the solution as a real number:

    It’s not actually a set value is it? It’s really a conditional value, isn’t it, based on some parameters?

    Applying it to physical modelling implies that we can bend if not break thermodynamics.

    Let’s not go there.

  178. Eyrie

    Our LHD’s are lovely, much bigger than barn door, radar reflectors. Perfect as sea skimming cruise missile targets and they don’t have CIWS as standard fit. Targets.

  179. feelthebern

    Gobbo said that her fat yap resulted in 367 convictions.
    Why isn’t every single on these punters free today?

  180. kaysee

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #3190186, posted on October 21, 2019 at 8:25 pm
    Here’s your winner

     
    Everlast Taps Trans Boxer Patricio Manuel in Historic Campaign
     
    The world’s first out transgender professional male boxer has been tapped as the new face of Everlast’s “Be First” campaign.
     

    Not enough to be a winner. At least not yet.

  181. When he passed from this earth I was advised by the funeral director of the type of coffin to use. I couldn’t sleep all that night and the next day I went back to them and ordered a real timber coffin. It was real timber – North Coast Camphor Laurel. It cost me 13yrs ago more than $1,000 more than that originally suggested to me.
    I rest peacefully now knowing that I chose real timber.
    I was a carpenter’s wife.

    That was a weird ad.

  182. Top Ender

    From Senate estimates today:

    Mr Pezzullo also rejected claims of a “crisis” in refugees ­arriving by plane, saying just 0.23 per cent of those entering the country with valid visas went on to claim protection visas.

    Labor home affairs spokeswoman Kristina Keneally tackled Mr Pezzullo in Senate ­estimates on Monday over onshore refugee claims, which she argues are at crisis levels. Mr Pezzullo confirmed there were 92,000 onshore claims in the past five years from more than four million ­arrivals. He said trying to get that number down would deliver a “vanishingly small return”.

    “The marginal gain that you would achieve in tapping that number down by putting onerous restrictions in terms of students, tourists, visitor visas and the like would be completely disproportionate to the gains that you end up getting,” Mr Pezzullo said.

    “You end up creating so many disincentives in terms of tourist, visitor visa, student categories, that the pain would not be worth the effort.”

    He said onshore refugee claims were a “completely different problem” than asylum-seeker arrivals by boat, which had led to an estimated 1200 people dying at sea. “I’ve dealt with a border crisis. This is not a border crisis, I can ­assure you,” Mr Pezzullo said.

    He said among members of the Five Eyes security alliance “there is a degree of incomprehension that we have got the numbers as under control as possible”. “Frankly, the reaction we get is the Meg Ryan reaction — ‘We’ll have what they’re having’,” he said, referring to a scene in the 1989 romantic comedy When Harry Met Sally.

    Senate estimates heard 24,520 refugee claims were made in 2018-19 by people who arrived by air. This was down on the previous year, when about 27,900 onshore claims were made.

    Malaysian and Chinese travellers have previously made up a large proportion of onshore refugee claims, with their applications overwhelmingly rejected.

    Oz link

  183. feelthebern

    I watched more ABC tonight than I have in the past two years.
    Australian story & 4 corners.

  184. max

    ROYALS

    Princess Margaret in last night’s Patrick Melrose was absolutely loathsome but, then again, so was every other character. Unsparing in its depiction of the English. The acting and the writing make Australian television and film seem like childplay.

  185. egg_

    Applying it to physical modelling

    Abstract algebraic equation.

  186. kaysee

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #3190193, posted on October 21, 2019 at 8:31 pm

     
    Packed field for the GWGB Olympics this year.
     
    And over two months to the end of the year. Time for more entries ….

  187. Top Ender

    Eyrie…Our LHD’s are lovely, much bigger than barn door, radar reflectors. Perfect as sea skimming cruise missile targets and they don’t have CIWS as standard fit. Targets.

    But, but, our Air Warfare Destroyers will protect them…

  188. Stimpson J. Cat

    What type of coffin would you like to be buried in Stimpson?

    Aldi Shopping Bag as a tribute to Grigs.

  189. Overburdened

    King Crimson in Germany.

    Nothing better than live, and it starts with percussion for all the rock bangers out there.

  190. Stimpson J. Cat

    But put a warning on those links Stimpson.

    No.
    The ANZAC alliance contains no such conditions.

  191. TE:

    Eyrie…Our LHD’s are lovely, much bigger than barn door, radar reflectors. Perfect as sea skimming cruise missile targets and they don’t have CIWS as standard fit. Targets.

    But, but, our Air Warfare Destroyers will protect them…

    Gees fellers, I’m depressed enough as it is. Don’t make it worse.
    🙂

  192. John Constantine

    https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2019/10/cba-mass-immigration-will-keep-australian-housing-unaffordable/

    Back in January 2017, the interest rate strategists at the Commonwealth Bank published a Global Markets Research paper called Demography is Destiny for Interest Rates, But Immigration a Fountain of Youth. Kerr and Donaldson were the authors…

    Deflation, not inflation, is listed as the biggest threat ahead…

    The paper does not predict Australian house prices will fall, though. So it may not be wise for millennials to sit back and wait for them to become cheaper.

    The paper makes the case that, against the trends in many other countries, Australia will still experience growth. Our differentiator is immigration, “the fountain of youth”. Put simply, we are a destination of choice for China and India. The average age of our immigrant is in the mid-20s, and people at this stage in life form families and buy houses.

    CBA’s claim that mass immigration will prevent Australian housing from deflating is uncontroversial.

    Australia’s population is projected to balloon by another 17.5 million people over the next 48 years to around 43 million people, with all of this growth to come via net overseas migration (NOM):

    Comrades.

  193. Overburdened

    Dr Beaugan

    Hats off.

    I don’t know what you are talking about and it sounds fair enough to the untrained mind.

    This means I have no idea and I hope you are on the money.

  194. John Constantine

    Once a ten million strong mainland chicom diaspora, monitored and herded by the Tyrant’s secret police social credit artificial intelligence Skynet live in australias cities, what is the point of having a navy anyway?.

  195. Overburdened

    P

    He would have known what’s up.

    Hats off to both of you.

  196. Arky

    The ANZAC alliance contains no such conditions.

    ..
    And explain why anyone would want a beer poured into a glass held in between a horse’s buttocks.
    What the hell is wrong with you?

  197. Arky

    Once a ten million strong mainland chicom diaspora, monitored and herded by the Tyrant’s secret police social credit artificial intelligence Skynet live in australias cities, what is the point of having a navy anyway?.

    ..
    You know why.


  198. Overburdened

    FoNT

    I think the issue here is context.

  199. Shy Ted

    Riddle. What is completely upright but lies all the time?
    The ABC. They are completely upright, just ask them.

  200. mh

    Adam Harvey
    ‏@adharves
    Stones and rotten fruit for the withdrawing US force. What a farce this has been.

    https://twitter.com/adharves/status/1186183750620733440

    The farce was US troops being used as human shields for these morons.

  201. John Constantine

    https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2019/10/flammable-cladding-the-new-asbestos/

    The head of Victoria’s cladding safety agency, Dan O’Brien, claims that 35% of buildings audited have flammable cladding, and has likened the problem to asbestos:

    Mr O’Brien said the Statewide Cladding Audit by the Victorian Building Authority had inspected 2300 buildings since it began in 2017, with 805 found to have aluminium composite panels or expanded polystyrene.

    He said 416 buildings had been identified as high risk…

    The death trap apartment Ponxi scheme was always going to demand a bail out, but this is abjectly pitiful.

    Didn’t even get ten years out of the trillion dollar multi million mass imported voteherd Ponxi before it has to be pulled down and rebuilt. What about shoddy electrical wiring and cut price foundations and leaky plumbing?.

    Where do the voteherds live during the rebuild phase?. how does the Ponxi ramp up to keep mass immigration happening at the same time as mass rehoming?.

    What happens if a lunatic sets fifty death trap apartment buildings ablaze in one summers total fire ban night?. yarragrad goes up like Tokyo during the firestorm.

    What a massive boost to gross domestic product that rebuilding would be.

    Comrades.

  202. Overburdened

    Robert Fripp had a project called the League of Crafty Guitarists. It may still be going.

    Show of Hands is a great album to reflect his ambition of getting anyone that can play, hot housing them and the doing a live performance which is recorded etc.

  203. jupes

    The farce was US troops being used as human shields for these morons.

    Exactly.

  204. Bruce in WA

    The name is Bond, James Bond.

  205. DrBeauGan

    As for the solution as a real number:

    It’s surprising but correct. See the answer I wrote for BoN.

  206. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Bruce in W.A., I trust you have recovered from the indignities perpetrated on your body in the name of modern medicine?

  207. Bruce in WA

    Or, as others see it:

  208. Knuckle Dragger

    The farce was US troops being used as human shields for these morons.’

    What jupes said. No ‘thanks for keeping us alive all this time, even though we demanded that you stay for the next thousand years’.

    The US should have drenched the joint and everyone in it with white phosphorous on its way out.

  209. I am disturbed that is correct Dr BG.

    It’s a mind fuck.

    “The square root of minus one, to the negative power of the square root of minus one, is equal to four point something.”

    This sort of stuff tends to suggest that we don’t understand reality, but we can describe it.

  210. Leigh Lowe

    Rex Mango

    #3190250, posted on October 21, 2019 at 9:20 pm

    4 Corners & Michael Brissendon have launched every weapon at their disposal directly at Fatty Ashton in that 45min episode.

    Yeah, nah.
    They spent 30 minutes running the re-heated leftovers accusing Paul Dale of murdering the Hodsons.
    FFS, make up your mind.
    Did Dale off the Hodsons personally, or did he pay Fatboy Williams to arrange it?
    Pretty unlikely he did both.
    Yes, eventually they got to the core problem that Fatty Ashton and Simon Underhand were in the thick of it when the corrupt convictions were secured.
    But it took them a long time to get there.

  211. Bruce in WA

    Bruce in W.A., I trust you have recovered from the indignities perpetrated on your body in the name of modern medicine?

    Thank you, mate. I have actually never suffered so much from this procedure before. Has taken me three full days to get back to “normal” — but the result was OK. Thanks for your concern.

  212. DrBeauGan

    As for the solution as a real number:

    It’s surprising but correct. See the answer I wrote for BoN.

    Alternatively, use Hiper calc. A very nice calculator you can get off the interwezy thingo. Although it doesn’t explain why.

  213. DrBeauGan

    This sort of stuff tends to suggest that we don’t understand reality, but we can describe it.

    Yep. That’s as good as it gets. Theories are comforting, and suggest possibilities. That’s what they are for

  214. Overburdened

    FWoNT

    Firstly apologies for earlier misnaming.

    This reeks of quantum mechanics.

    Mainly the uncertainty principle.

  215. Overburdened

    I have no idea about that either.

  216. EvilElvis

    Even if Qantas was well run, I do not believe any one person deserves a yearly salary package that an average person couldn’t spend in a lifetime.

    After mounting a great, fact filled, well thought out evidence based argument the fucking mong resorts to ‘feelz’. No one gives a fuck about ‘feelz’. Stand firm with your argument.

  217. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I lost about half a day one time reading about Midway. Everyone kept talking about how pivotal it was. Read somewhere there was about a 90sec difference between the Japanese being in the ascendancy shooting down waves of US aircraft to the US when the 2nd wave hit paydort.

    I don’t have a reference, but the only survivor of the annihilation of Torpedo Squadron 8, at Midway, left instructions that, on his demise, he was to be cremated, and his ashes scattered in that part of the Pacific where all his comrades had gone to God.

  218. Leigh Lowe

    Rex Mango

    #3190250, posted on October 21, 2019 at 9:20 pm

    4 Corners & Michael Brissendon have launched every weapon at their disposal directly at Fatty Ashton in that 45min episode.

    Oh, and before you put Brissenden and the ABC on a pedestal, ask yourself why Christine Nixon’s name did not come up once.
    Gobbo was first registered when Nixon was Commish and did her best evidence fabrication under Queen Christine’s reign.
    Make no mistake.
    This was a sacrificial lamb exercise.
    They know that the RC is going to make adverse findings, probably criminal charges, against senior VikPol command.
    They are throwing Ashton (and to a lesser extent Overland) under a bus to protect Christine – “I had to eat” – Nixon.

  219. Cardimona

    The head of Victoria’s cladding safety agency, Dan O’Brien, claims that 35% of buildings audited have flammable cladding, and has likened the problem to asbestos:

    Mr O’Brien said the Statewide Cladding Audit by the Victorian Building Authority had inspected 2300 buildings since it began in 2017, with 805 found to have aluminium composite panels or expanded polystyrene.

    All the cladding that contains expanded plastics, even if it met fire safety standards at time of manufacture, will become kindling in time.
    The fire retardants (polybrominated diphenol ethers or tetrobromo bisphenol As) leach out as time passes.

  220. Knuckle Dragger

    This speaks volumes. About what, I’m not sure (paywalled Herald Sun):

    ‘The Deaf Poker Australia Championship has been rocked by claims the winner of last night’s main event at Crown Perth was not “deaf enough” to enter. A Perth man won the tournament and took home a trophy and $3300 in prize money. An investigation is now under way into his eligibility to play, in response to complaints from other players and spectators.

    ‘Deaf Poker Australia (DPA) director of poker operations Landon Blackhall told the Herald Sun concerns about the man’s eligibility were raised during Sunday’s event at Crown casino in Perth. Mr Blackhall said while the player had hearing loss in his right ear, DPA rules required players to be classified as “bilaterally deaf or hard of hearing”. Under the DPA tournament rules “players must demonstrate a minimum of moderate hearing loss (at least 40dB pure tone average in the better ear)” via an audiogram or medical certificate.

    ‘According to the DPA website failure to provide that information “may result in refusal of entry”.

    ‘He said the sensitive matter was further complicated by the fact that poker was not classified as a sport in Australia. “Poker falls under gaming which means that events like ours aren’t governed in the same way as other sporting codes,” Mr Blackhall said.

    ‘DPA president Sokong Kim took to social media in the wake of the scandal and called for calm.
    “I feel your anger and pain,” he posted. “More than anything we need your support. Nobody is hurting more than the guys at DPA.”

    ‘He referred to a similar case at the first world deaf poker championship in Las Vegas in 2016 when four players to reach the final table, including the eventual winner, were not deaf. That issue was resolved by awarding the trophy to the best performing deaf player at the event and dividing the prize money amongst the top four players, regardless of their hearing ability.

    ‘Attempts have been made to contact the winner.’

    ….

    There should be a Global Retardedness Scale (GRS) for this sort of thing.

    I assume the attempt to contact the winner was via sign language, or by speaking loudly and slowly.

  221. Overburdened

    Fn pretend deaf people give me the shits.

    The only good thing to come out of the current insanity.

  222. Overburdened

    We may have reached peak stupid, but I think it will be hard to tell.

  223. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Top brass ‘must be sacked’ over Lawyer X, says top QC
    Ian Royall, Herald Sun
    October 21, 2019 10:00pm
    Subscriber only

    Former chief crown prosecutor Gavin Silbert, QC, has called for Victoria Police’s top brass implicated in the Lawyer X scandal to be sacked.

    “Anyone who sanctioned this should have gone,’’ he told ABC-TV’s 4 Corners program.

    Mr Silbert was the state’s chief prosecutor for 10 years from 2008 to 2018.

    A five-year Herald Sun investigation revealed high-profile criminal barrister Nicola Gobbo doubled as a police informer during the gangland war that rocked Melbourne in the 1990s and 2000s.

    Victoria Police senior officers sanctioned the recruitment of Ms Gobbo, lawyer to underworld figures such as Tony Mokbel, and the revelation sparked the current royal commission.

    “She (Ms Gobbo) was effectively dealing up her clients on a platter,’’ Mr Silbert told 4 Corners. “The upper hierarchy of Victoria Police has to take complete responsibility.

    “Those who knew and sanctioned what was happening were guilty of terrible breaches of duty and extraordinarily unethical behaviour.’’

    Mr Silbert named Commissioner Graham Ashton and former chief commissioner Simon Overland as “being parties to what’s gone on”.

    The royal commission on Monday heard dozens of police knew about Ms Gobbo’s dealings, but one after another they have claimed it was not their job to do anything to stop it.

  224. Knuckle Dragger

    I used to be selectively deaf, but then my divorce came through.

  225. Delcon

    mh
    #3190377, posted on October 21, 2019 at 10:13 pm

    Adam Harvey
    ‏@adharves
    Stones and rotten fruit for the withdrawing US force. What a farce this has been.

    https://twitter.com/adharves/status/1186183750620733440

    The farce was US troops being used as human shields for these morons.

    From Wikipedia:

    Human shield is a military and political term describing the deliberate placement of non-combatants in or around combat targets to deter the enemy from attacking these combat targets.

    Ummm, special forces troops from the strongest military in the world are “non-combatants” and Kurdish civilians are “combat targets”, then?
    Did you say something about morons?

  226. Knuckle Dragger

    When news that Thunder Thighs had been registered as a gig reached the ears of the great Ron Iddles, he went straight to the honchos*, called them fucking idiots** and said that the shemozzle had Royal Commission written all over it***.

    It was one of the reasons he was frozen out of VicPol.****

    He’d be laughing his guts out at these spankers. Those who’ve survived so far must surely be preparing for some extended leave.

    *Allegedly.
    **Apparently.
    ***So I’ve heard.
    ****This is fact.

  227. EvilElvis

    I used to be selectively deaf, but then my divorce came through.

    Damn, just can’t find that short Derek and Clive clip that signifies tonight’s deaf theme.

    “And for all of those who are hard of hearing…”

  228. twostix

    What an absolute mess Bolt has become:

    Born a man, but insists it’s not unfair to race against women: “Transgender athlete Rachel McKinnon defended her sprint title at the Masters Track Cycling World Championships… The 37-year-old, competing in the female 35-39 sprint category, had set a new world best time.” Check her legs. Does she really claim her male birth isn’t an advantage?

    So, erm, Bolt wants to call out men pretending to be women for playing sports against women, but he obediently and insanely calls them women.

    Conservacorp conservatism is such a colossal failure.

  229. Colonel Crispin Berka

    Where is the Catallaxy Court of Appeals?

  230. RobK

    Where is the Catallaxy Court of Appeals?

    Um. Refer to Tailgunner for a speedy outcome.

  231. Knuckle Dragger

    Well, you’ve nailed your colours to the mast on this topic, Delmonty. Gotta give you that.

    But you yourself, in one of your earlier imaginary conversations where Erdogan told Trump to get his troops out of the way so he could ‘invade’ said, well, that the Toiks wouldn’t do shit until the 50 Yanks were gone.

    It doesn’t matter if they were 50 Rambos and Chuck Norrises. Their presence against a force of tens of thousands of Turks (some of whom are Kurds) coming to punch on with tens of thousands of Kurds (of whom some are Turkish Kurds) means they may as well be noncombatants.

    And yes, Kurdish civilians are combat targets. They seem to have run out of copies of the Geneva Convention over there.

    Please include the words/phrases ‘probably’, ‘would have’ and ‘pile-on’ in any reply. As usual.

    NB: Wiki. Cool source, bro.

  232. Oh come on

    FFS. We are *still* crapping on about this?

  233. Old School Conservative

    To be fair to Bolt twostix, most of the pronouns come from the Sky News article or the BBC article he quotes.
    Agreed, Bolt does once say “her”.

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