Mixed feelings

So here is a tweet from Richard Di Natale:

On the one hand I think that politicians – and their families – should only be allowed to access public services. Furthermore that they – and their families – be required to fill out their own tax returns using the tax pack.

On the other hand, however, here we have a high-income earner and wealthy Australian using public services when he is more than capable of paying for private. So the question is, who on the waiting list has had to live another day in pain so that Di Natale could score cheap (actually quite expensive) political points?  Who is laying on a trolley in emergency while Di Natale is occupying a hospital bed?

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50 Responses to Mixed feelings

  1. stackja

    Leftists have different ideas.

  2. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Wasn’t it Paul Keating who confessed that he didn’t have private health cover?

  3. I’m going through a hip replacement and rehab for an old parent at mo. Here’s what I’ve learned.

    If a private patient checks into a public hospital, they don’t have to declare or use their private cover.
    However, if they wish to check into a public hospital using their private cover, then the public hospital gets some money from the insurer which helps them a great deal.
    To encourage private patients to use their cover in a public hospital, the hospital covers the excess payments and offers other incentives such as free TV, daily paper and parking subsidy etc.

    As far as why people check into public when they have private is concerned, there are lots of factors such as proximity to family etc (this was big for me).
    The key question for this a-hole is, “did you check in as a private patient?”
    If not, why not?

  4. Nick

    Dan is using hospital services started by the evil Catholic Church and the benevolence of wicked nuns. He’s also using ‘white man’s’ medicine to treat a First World medical complaint. I’d have more respect if the hypocrite had used the indigenous medical option of a cave, a lemon scented possum and a rock.

  5. Roger

    Second son was recently diagnosed with a benign tumour in his left knee.

    Benign, thankfully, but it quickly relegated him to crutches and then a wheelchair as pain killers weren’t effective and immobilisation was suggested. That meant he couldn’t work.

    Local public hospital in Qld said it would be 6-12 months wait just for an appointment in orthodpaedics outpatients.

    We paid for him to see a surgeon privately. Seen within 3 weeks, operation within six weeks.

  6. Shy Ted

    If you scroll down the tweet replies there are an awful lot of comments putting him straight. I don’t have mixed feelings about this destructive parasite.

  7. jupes

    How long did the evil prick have to wait I wonder?

    Do you reckon he was on the list with everyone else or as a champion of medicare was he “looked after”?

  8. cohenite

    I have nothing good to say about this person. Maybe he’ll have an epiphany from the pain, so I guess we should wish for a lot of pain so he has a big epiphany. A real lot of pain.

  9. Stimpson J. Cat

    Who took the photo, an Au Pair?

  10. Ellen

    I can understand why people dislike Di Natale. What I don’t understand is why those people descend to and below his level by using the kind of nasty language above. You think you are better than him? Well, act like it! Otherwise you just sound like another bunch of snowflakes.

  11. Ian of Perth

    “pigs & troughs” comes to mind. How can this (rich) man, in good conscience, go public?

  12. Mique

    And the dickhead had the temerity to skite about it. Sheer class. Not.

  13. duncanm

    One does wonder about his wait time.. 200days for the average Joe and a knee

    https://www.facebook.com/senatordinatale/posts/2457406171017629

    Might be a bit quiet for the next couple of weeks. After a couple of years of putting it off, I’m off to have a knee replacement to fix up a longstanding footy injury.

  14. Some History

    I’m taking good HA HA HAAA! care of Dickie and Dickie’s dicky knee. HA HA HAAA!

    https://imgur.com/a7JZw3B

  15. egg_

    Did he get plain, ordinary public treatment, viz rinsing with plain ol’ saline solution, giving golden staph a chance?
    /sarc

  16. 2dogs

    There is a disconnect in that while the medicare levy surcharge compels the wealthy to buy private cover, they are not compelled to use it.

    I think the solution here is to backcharge the private insurer when a privately insured person uses a public service, and use the money saved to increase the rebate.

  17. Robbo

    So typical of the lefties. Everybody should have access to publicly funded healthcare but we should have priority access because we are important. Lazy bludging hypocrites like Di Natalie who can easily afford to pay for their operations and hospital beds should be refused admittance as public patients.

  18. Tator

    What a moron and cheap skate. My wife had knee replacement done privately here in Adelaide and it cost us a huge $500 gap fee. Over the last 6 years, our private health fund has paid for 1 knee replacement, 1 triple bypass, bariatric surgery and hiatal hernia surgery and two other knee arthroscopes for my family (basically I have received my 30 years of insurance payments back in services in the last 6 years). I saw my account for the triple bypass I had last year that had to be done privately because the public health system here in SA could not fit it in within the timeframe the surgeon recommended. Thank god I have one of the best private health funds in Police Health. Not only did I get the surgery done when I needed it, but they shelled out for the top of the range titanium screw in sternum closures instead of the usual surgical wire ones that allow movement. This allowed me to continue the fitness regime that helped me survive the initial heart attack.
    Now don’t get me started on how the ALP screwed up public health here in SA with their Transforming Health debacle which cost more to run the program AND INCREASED costs overall instead of reducing them.

  19. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Lazy bludging hypocrites like Di Natalie who can easily afford to pay for their operations and hospital beds should be refused admittance as public patients.

    Hear, hear!

  20. Squirrel

    “Furthermore that they – and their families – be required to fill out their own tax returns using the tax pack.”

    Yea verily – the tax pack is a monstrosity – a palimpsest of political fiddling and, in its farcically convoluted language, a truly depressing insight into the bureaucratic mentality which bedevils this country.

  21. Jonathan

    The real issue here relates to the wait time he has experienced. If he has had to wait a significant period of time to access the public system, as the rest of us mere mortals do, then I have no complaint, if however he has been “fast tracked” due to political associations, all criticisms regarding privilege etc can be legitimately processed.

  22. Des Deskperson

    Interesting.

    in 2005, a Greens member of the ACT Legislative Assembly – one Deb Foskey – refused to give up her public housing unit in leafy Yarralumla, despite the fact that, as an MLA, she was earning around $100.000 pa and that previously she had been, as a university lecturer, pulling in around $80,000.

    The reason she gave was that she ‘supported public housing’. The implication was that, since the Greens believed that everyone ought to live in public housing, a well paid academic turned politician had a perfect right to it, even if there was a long waiting list of poor people.

    According to the Greens’ health policy:

    ‘The publicly funded health system is the most equitable and efficient way to resource and deliver health services.’

    So if we apply Ms Foskey’s logic, a Greens leader on a base salary of $301,031 pa is entitled to use the public health system because he supports public health.

  23. Tim Neilson

    Des Deskperson
    #3189312, posted on October 20, 2019 at 6:49 pm

    That’s an interesting concept.

    You can “support” something by bludging off it, and soaking up it available resources.

    Maybe we should encourage people to “support” Greens politicians by burgling their electoral offices.

  24. Percy Popinjay

    If the vile useless piece of greenfilth had already been tarred, feathered and then herded into a shipping container with his fellow parasites prior to being bulldozed off a cliff into the sea, none of us would even be discussing this egregious misuse of taxpayer funded medical resources.

    Sort of like the ALPBC – if it didn’t exist we wouldn’t be continually infuriated by it.

    #shutitdownfirethemall

  25. a happy little debunker

    With 1204 people waiting on elective surgery at St Vincent’s, one wonders how long Di Natalie actually waited?

  26. Tel

    Any disposable plastic tubing used during that operation?

    Any steel … produced by the mining industry and then refined by burning a lot of coal?

    Did they do the operation outside, under natural lighting? Natural is better, because we love nature.

    Those bedsheets are recycled hessian, mixed with hemp … I sincerely hope they would be.

    And absolutely no chemicals! Especially nothing containing Chlorine because that’s harmful to the environment. The hospital must be washed down with a little bit of rain water, no nasty toxic cleaning products that might kill innocent bacteria. Don’t use too much rain water, the rest is needed for environmental flows and gets tipped into the ocean.

  27. Overburdened

    Di Natali is like the rest of the elitist shitbags who are so far up their own arses they can’t see their own hypocrisy and who think that they are as ever entitled.

    Sucking on the public teat and living the life of Riley.

  28. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Did they do the operation outside, under natural lighting? Natural is better, because we love nature.

    Did they use any form of anesthetic? Natural is better!

  29. candy

    It’s just amazing he does not know how this picture appears to others, a very well off politician with several homes etc, using the Medicare system meant for the less well off and downright poor.

  30. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    It’s just amazing he does not know how this picture appears to others, a very well off politician with several homes etc, using the Medicare system meant for the less well off and downright poor.

    Overburdened summed it well.

  31. BorisG

    I recently had an operation similar to this fellow. Going Public would have required a very long wait.

    But maybe not for a politician.

  32. Tim Neilson

    On the one hand I think that politicians – and their families – should only be allowed to access public services. Furthermore that they – and their families – be required to fill out their own tax returns using the tax pack.

    On the other hand, however, here we have a high-income earner and wealthy Australian using public services when he is more than capable of paying for private.

    Would it help if we slashed politicians’ remuneration to average (by mode) private sector wages?

  33. Old Lefty

    For their next trick, will Green and Socialist Left MPs and senators from Victoria forsake the evils of air travel for the joys of a nine-hour train and coach trip from Melbourne to Canberra? Or better still, peddle there on their ecocycles? Or at least cycle from the airport to Parliament House on a Winter’s morning when it’s minus 5?

  34. Old Lefty

    But contrast the hypocrisy of Daniel Andrews sending his kids to non-government schools.

  35. egg_

    Dr Dick didn’t use a DIY kit?

  36. Chris M

    I’m happy he used a public hospital, just as long as he had to wait in line like everyone else.

    Last year I survived multiple errors by doctors, including four serious misdiagnosis from private doctors and three mistaken identities (ie administered incorrect treatments and drugs intended for other patients) the latter in a major public hospital. You really need to be well informed to protect yourself from Australia’s medical system. I would be terminal right now if I hadn’t pushed. Always get alternate opinions and don’t be afraid to go O/S for treatment if necessary.

  37. Entropy

    As a Green he is a hypocrite, but in this instance I w9nder what this article would have said if he had gone private?

  38. Entropy

    Would it help if we slashed politicians’ remuneration to average (by mode) private sector wages?

    I’m a big fan of that proposal. They would be more cautious about the impact of their policies on ordinary people.

  39. hzhousewife

    don’t be afraid to go O/S for treatment if necessary.

    O/S to where exactly?

  40. Mother Lode

    I should be very surprised if Di Natale got the same standard of care doled out to plebs, in which case it would not be a vindication of Medicare.

  41. Geriatric Mayfly

    Nurse!!!! There’s a huge staphylococcus in Bed 1A. Where’s the patient gone?

  42. bollux

    He may as well check in for brain surgery while he is there . It would cut down on commonwealth car trips.

  43. Roger

    It’s just amazing he does not know how this picture appears to others, a very well off politician with several homes etc, using the Medicare system meant for the less well off and downright poor.

    You’re talking about the SJW who underpaid his au pair girls.

    “Between the idea
    And the reality
    Between the motion
    And the act
    Falls the Shadow”

    And in di Natale’s case the shadow is long & dark.

  44. Truth n Justice

    At least Genetalia is a consistent hypocrite. Hope he gets terminal staph!

  45. John A

    He’s at St Vincent’s Hospital?

    The one established by Christians acting on their Christian principles and Biblical foundations?

    The foundations that his party seeks to overturn and remove from public life?

    Yeah, right!

  46. Maws

    can guarantee he didn’t wait 18 months like I did when I needed a tumour removed from my ribcage

  47. One can only hope something the cleaner has missed eats his leg off . Unfortunately the parasite will be allover the NDIS scheme ……. And before you can say … glue your head to the road …. He’ll be Tweeting pictures of his $180.000 inviromentally sourced bionic leg . What a turd this chap is .

  48. Chris M

    O/S to where exactly?

    Everyone should do their own research and look at the costs, benefits and risks of course. I’ve been to Bumrungrad personally and am very happy as they have top equipment & service and I can see a specialist within 24 hours. Would it be the best choice for every condition? Probably not given the distance. Australia (private) is still outstanding for acute medical situations such as injuries of course.

    Some professionals are opting to have treatment overseas so it doesn’t go on their record here in Australia, they would be a good source of info.

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