Tuesday Forum: October 22, 2019

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  1. JC

    Zuckerberg is moving towards Trump these days.

    He must be shit scared by what he hears Warren and the Dems saying.

    He’s such a little weasel.

  2. Leigh Lowe

    Fucking hell, JC, don’t start me on Microtheft.
    Doing my SMSF accounts the other day and stopped for a coffee.
    When I came back the Surface-Am had done a re-start “for critical updates”.
    Saved files which originated from the internal drive but blew away anything which had originated from an external drive (including the last four hours of fund accounts).
    They accommodate external drives for now but they hate them.
    They are pushing towards cloud drive storage
    Only $1 a month… until …

  3. EvilElvis

    Maybe Apple products are better used when everything else is Apple based.

    Wholeheartedly agree, JC. But then you’re options for hardware are limited. The Dark side has many, many options. As you pointed out, the Surface Pro is a beautiful piece of work, engineering art. I’ve got one and the form and function of the thing in your hands is amazing. Turn it on and that changes. Maybe I’m getting old. I don’t work with computer tech, but appreciate machines for function and beauty. I like the mechanics of the hardware but the software is over bloated with non-productive crap and constant updating. Maybe someone will make a carby, pushrod operating system, just meat and potatoes that perfectly accompanies the machine it’s put in.

  4. Rex Mango

    Also funny when you consider that this the era of the ten pound Poms and New Australians who would drop everything, get on a ship and migrate to get some land in Australia. The Services Home Scheme is a great incentive.

  5. EvilElvis

    Snap on the updates, LL! Fuck me swinging!

  6. JC

    FMD, talking about computers….

    Paris (AFP) – Scientists claimed Wednesday to have achieved a near-mythical state of computing in which a new generation of machine vastly outperforms the world’s fastest super-computer, known as “quantum supremacy”.

    A team of experts working on Google’s Sycamore machine said their quantum system had executed a calculation in 200 seconds that would have taken a classic computer 10,000 years to complete.

    A rival team at IBM has already expressed scepticism about their claim.

    But if verified and harnessed, the Google device could make even the world’s most powerful supercomputers — capable of performing a giddying 20,000 trillion calculations per second — look like an early 2000s flip-phone.

  7. Rex Mango

    If the French develop a supercomputer it will be put useful purpose smelling cheese, or cognac, nothing to worry about.

  8. EvilElvis

    A team of experts working on Google’s Sycamore machine said their quantum system had executed a calculation in 200 seconds that would have taken a classic computer 10,000 years to complete

    So, how do they work out these time frames? And how do these immense calculations get input?

  9. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The Greens all originated from the German Green Party which was an offshoot of the World Union for the Protection of Life founded by Gunther Schwaab, a eugenicist and Nazi. At the founding of The Greens his speeches were quoted. Thus The Greens are the only political party to be founded by a Nazi on the words of a Nazi.

    Do remember to bring this up at the next dinner party you attend when someone proudly declares they voted for The Greens.

    Thanks for that one, Mr Rusty, I’ll bear it in mind..

  10. Lazlo

    Quite so, Mr Rusty. The Greens and Eugenics were joined at the waist, except that more recently it has been called population control, or sterilisation, or extinction rebellion. The Nazis were just the most extreme incarnation of greenism, thus far.

  11. JC

    Rex

    Frogs are very smart. They let themselves down by being total statists…that’s not so smart. Their language let’s them down a lot too, because it’s terrible for engineering etc. English and kraut are far better because you can join words together to articulate. You need paragraphs for that in frog.

  12. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Australia needs effective Labor PartyRICHARD MARLES

    52 minutes ago October 24, 2019
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    If anyone imagined that the election of Scott Morrison would see the rebirth of a newly enthused government, five months in you would be disappointed.

    Instead, this third-term government and its Prime Minister appear to be using the benches on their side of the house as more of a cigar lounge than a Treasury bench.

    Despite loud economic warning bells, anaemic growth, stagnant wages and record levels of household debt, we have an impotent government that has barely stirred.
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    There is no plan to stimulate the economy, no appetite to bring forward infrastructure spending despite repeated calls from the Business Council of Australia, the Reserve Bank and every sensible commentator.

    Families doing it tough, in the electorates that voted for us and the ones that didn’t, are now counting on Labor to hold the Morrison government to account.

    The election defeat was difficult for Labor and our supporters. But we have dusted ourselves off and returned to parliament with a renewed sense of energy and purpose. Because we have to. Because we can’t sit idle while the other side remains smug.

    The Morrison government is indifferent to people going week to week wondering how they will keep the electricity on.

    And nothing compares to the rank self-indulgence of the Nationals, absorbed in open warfare with each other while Tenterfield stares down the barrel of running out of water by Christmas.

    Of course in these early days there have been challenges on our side. But in his first tests Anthony Albanese has shown he isn’t afraid of the tough days and the tough calls.

    After being elected unop­posed, Albanese went straight to the communities where sitting Labor members lost their seats, as well as fronting up to see a few candidates who were in seats tipped to swing our way: a tough inauguration lap.

    He initiated a comprehensive review of our election campaign, which will be finalised in coming weeks, and intervened by appointing Michael Lavarch to review the operations of NSW Labor.

    Albanese has led us in making difficult but critically important decisions such as making improvements to the Indonesian free trade agreement because Australia must be a part of the fastest growing region in the world, while ensuring that appropriate protections of Australian jobs are in place.

    In June, Albanese unveiled a new ministry and leadership team that is united. And together we have been listening to the voters who thought of supporting Labor on May 18 but ultimately chose not to.

    The message from those voters is that they are tired of the politics of division and want to hear from Labor about how we will apply our values to putting the national interest first.

    We are forging new relationships with the business community while continuing to engage with unions about dealing with stagnant wages, protecting jobs and building workers’ rights on the shop floor.

    We need to change. Part of that is resetting the reflex muscle that led us to believe that our fortunes were pegged to winning the daily cycle, which ultimately proved to be a false economy.

    There is a stark difference between holding the government to account and simply seeking victory in the pursuit of a good headline.

    An approach that aims for a longer-term vision that spans beyond 140 characters may seem boring for some commentators. But our focus will be developing a compelling argument that speaks to the aspirations of working men and women across Australia so they put a “1” in the Labor square at the next election.

    For many of our supporters, the prospect of victory may feel a long way off. But after the 2004 election, dislodging John Howard seemed impossible. Within three years, we won government with 83 seats and a primary vote of more than 43 per cent.

    Kevin Rudd and Labor seized the moment in 2007 because we had an agenda and a message that landed in middle Australia.

    We will go to the next election embracing aspiration, which has been at the heart of social mobility and is the key to building an egalitarian Australia. This is, after all, a Labor idea.

    As part of that, next week in Perth, Albanese will deliver his first vision statement on jobs and the future of work.

    This will set out a clear message that we put jobs first and embrace advanced manufacturing and new industry. It will be a vision for an economy that is stronger and fairer; in fact, an economy that is stronger because it is fairer.

    Labor is the party of jobs, productivity and growth. The successes of Australia’s modern economy and the building of Australia’s middle class are the creations of Labor governments.

    We are a serious group of people devastated by the opportunity lost for our nation at this year’s election, shocked by the smug indolence of the Morrison government, and utterly determined to deliver to the millions of Australians who want for a better nation an Albanese Labor government.

    And over the next three years we will hold the Liberals to account. We will put their failures under the spotlight.

    And we will absolutely make sure by the time it comes to the next election the choice will be stark and it will be one that the Labor faithful, as well as new supporters, will make with hope.

    Richard Marles is deputy leader of the Australian Labor Party.

    Posted in full, from the Oz. Sorry about the wall of text, but “Ek rool ap die vloor…”

  13. C.L.

    A team of experts working on Google’s Sycamore machine said their quantum system had executed a calculation in 200 seconds that would have taken a classic computer 10,000 years to complete.

    We need to know what the calculation was.
    That’s quite a claim.

  14. Mitch M.

    But if verified and harnessed, the Google device could make even the world’s most powerful supercomputers — capable of performing a giddying 20,000 trillion calculations per second — look like an early 2000s flip-phone.

    Will soon be superceded with the new ones in development using EPYC chips.

    https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-epyc-radeon-frontier-exascale-supercomputer,39275.html

    To put Frontier’s performance into perspective, the supercomputer will be able to crunch up to 1.5 quintillion operations per second

  15. Leigh Lowe

    JC

    #3192134, posted on October 24, 2019 at 12:39 am

    FMD, talking about computers….

    Paris (AFP) – Scientists claimed Wednesday to have achieved a near-mythical state of computing in which a new generation of machine vastly outperforms the world’s fastest super-computer, known as “quantum supremacy”.

    Volume of computer?
    Cooling mechanisms?

  16. Mitch M.

    The system will also have over 90 miles of cabling and require 5,900 gallons of water per minute for cooling.

  17. EvilElvis

    1.5 quintillion operations per second

    Wtf? They’ve hooked up a computer to our nation’s debt clock?

  18. JC

    Cooling mechanisms?

    Dude, 1/2 a windmill could cool it down. 🙂

    ———–

    I have a pal whose son is in the real estate investing business working for a large fund. Funny enough we met and had dinner with them last night at a nice Frog restaurant. He was explaining what’s hot in the US in terms of commercial real estate. The two biggest, in demand, sectors are warehouse space and storage for computer servers. Server storage is yuge! Server storage apparently is great because it’s hard to move that crap and you can keep raising rents on the tenants within reason. Retail is totally fucked. He thinks retail, as a contrarian investor maybe a good time to think about placing some bets, but it’s royally rooted.

    If warehouse space is looking attractive still, it may be a marker for the economy. Maybe.

  19. Infidel Tiger

    Bulky goods is doing well in Australia.

    Retail is so broken I don’t know what could ever fix it. I don’t even think it’s online eating their lunch, I think people have enough stuff. There is nothing left to buy.

    Large shopping centres are now basically giant food courts and entertainment precincts with a couple of shops.

  20. A team of experts working on Google’s Sycamore machine said their quantum system had executed a calculation in 200 seconds that would have taken a classic computer 10,000 years to complete

    or 1,000,000 years if you install Windows 10

  21. Tom

    No ‘toons again today on account of continuing access issues on my laptop. The Cat is the only website I’m having issues with. When I try to access the Cat via laptop (phone access is unaffected) it tells me it “can’t reach this page”. One of my internet settings evidently changed on Tuesday night, when the access issues began. I’m sure it’s something simple. Any suggestions from IT Cats would be appreciated.

  22. Mark A

    Tom
    #3192154, posted on October 24, 2019 at 4:00 am

    Tom the simplest thing you can try is on the laptop to do a search for “cattalaxyfies”
    When found and connected save it again.
    It will find it for certain, but if you cannot connect then you have to check your browser settings.

  23. feelthebern

    Peter Thiel is the greatest American living today.

    The Snowden interview with Rogan was a great historical bit for people who knew nothing of his story, but nothing new.
    Snowden is the greatest American patriot since Andrew Jackson.

    Huawei tech shits all over everyone.

  24. Diogenes

    The claims have been questioned by IBM, who claim the 10000 year simulation could have been carried out in 2.5 days.

    https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/10/22/ibm_poopoos_google_quantum_claims/

  25. John Constantine

    Bridge Banging Bandits.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-23/footscrays-napier-street-bridge-continues-to-be-hit-by-trucks/11631540?sf222048210=1&fbclid=IwAR25Le_j0PSo4GI7o1ZB3eo1JkKkE7J_OPWRGaTqtBPlTFlGlLVV845eblc

    It is State policy to replace Dissenter culture among stale pale male truck owner drivers by borrowing Big Crony State debt to use Big Crony Training/Big Crony Unions/ Big Crony Truck Company Donors to mass import the third world’s poorest non-english speakers and create a New Safe socialist truck driving culture.

    If you are put in a truck on the streets of a strange city under a government scheme, without being able to read English, how is it your fault if you can’t read the warning signs?.

    Having the low bridges of yarragrad regularly banged is a cheap price to pay for their godless commo andrews government to wipe out the threat of political protest truck convoys.

    The big truck donor companies aren’t going to use their vehicles against their totalitarian Comrades.

    Almost time for the next viKpol owner driver blitz coming up to harvest.

    Having a non-revolutionary political sticker on your truck makes it unroadworthy.

    Only ambulances in viktoria get to be rolling mobile political billboards.

    Comrades.

  26. bespoke

    JC
    #3192053, posted on October 23, 2019 at 10:20 pm
    Went to the Microsoft store on 5th, yesterday. Apple better watch out as Microtheft’s Surface and bigger desk computers appear to be fantastic products. Just fabulous. Apple is lucky it’s got a lock with the iphone. Very lucky.

    Replaced my Microsoft/Nokia 920 a few week ago. Needed a tough phone so Android based was the only option.

  27. RobK

    JC.
    The two biggest, in demand, sectors are warehouse space and storage for computer servers. Server storage is yuge!
    And yet NY wants to go 100%renewables. Google tried and gave up. Blockchain and the like is going to really going cut swathes into the dreamers hopes of using energy efficiency to reduce CO2 emissions. I’m perplexed at how the obvious inconsistencies are glossed over. Sometime they will all have to wakeup to reality.

  28. Herodotus

    “We need to know what the calculation was.
    That’s quite a claim.“

    It was which came first, the chicken or the egg?

  29. John Constantine

    At least there is some debate in America about Skynet number plate recognition and face recognition.

    https://techcrunch.com/2019/10/23/axon-adds-license-plate-recognition-to-police-dash-cams-but-heeds-ethics-boards-concerns/

    No ethics board concerns in viktoria, their billion dollar abc swings in behing andrews government State totalitarian transformation of vikpol with praise spilling from the bully pulpit.

    the report actually makes for very interesting reading. The team begins by admitting there is very little information on how police actually use ALPR data, which makes it difficult to say whether it’s a net positive or negative, or whether this or that benefit or risk is currently in play.

    That said, the very fact that ALPR use is largely undocumented is evidence in itself of negligence on the part of authorities to understand and limit the potential uses of this technology.

    Law enforcement agencies should not acquire or use ALPRs without going through an open, transparent, democratic process, with adequate opportunity for genuinely representative public analysis, input, and objection.

    Agencies should not deploy ALPRs without a clear use policy. That policy should be made public and should, at a minimum, address the concerns raised in this report.

    Vendors, including Axon, should design ALPRs to facilitate transparency about their use, including by incorporating easy ways for agencies to share aggregate and de-identified data. Each agency then should share this data with the community it serves.

    In viktoria, if we have nothing to hide, we have nothing to fear.

    How long until andrews deploys chicom tech to identify dissent through hatespeech?.

    I have always loved OBOR and dan andrews.

  30. RobK

    Siltstone,
    RobK: question for you.
    If the powers that be could cajole, or force, the premature shut down of one or more aluminium smelters, would that delay the inevitable crisis from declining base-load power supply?

    It would delay the inevitable only to the extent that it buys a bit more time and enables RE to further penetration into the grid. Every delay in scrapping the RET is going to make it more costly to revert to cheap energy as far as the grid is concerned. The RE futurists aim to a hydrogen derived fuel storage and export system to save our bacon. This technology is untested and a long way off. Forcing this is going to be a bumpy ride. It would be better to do it over another cycle of baseload power, say 50-60 years, replacing some of our oldest plant and see what the future holds.

  31. calli

    Thanks for that analysis, Hazmatic. It’s what I was trying to recall of overheard conversations between young adults (I was only 14 in 1970 and expected to keep my trap shut and listen). There was definitely a benefit. In ‘74 you could pick up a terrace in Chippendale or Surry Hills for around $12K. I know, because by that time I was looking to buy. So between ‘70-2 property would have been priced pretty much the same.

    It wasn’t so much the amount, it was the access to the money. Big deposits were expected and lending was tight.

    As you say, a range of incentives.

    It’s interesting to look back and unpick those times. What younger ones imagine they were like is not quite true. So much has been recreated by cultural fantasists with a barrow to push. And so much mythology grew up around Whitlam so quickly.

  32. JC

    Robk

    It’s laughable. 15% of energy use is now computing.

  33. calli

    And the latest – Brexit is being blamed for the 39 frozen illegals.

    Is there anything Brexit can’t do?

  34. calli

    And fears of “sizzling” temperatures in Sydney. Don’t expect to fry your eggs on the car bonnet. A whole 33C.

    And then, the unheard of – a cool change.

    It’s Climageddon!

  35. Diogenes

    The two biggest, in demand, sectors are warehouse space and storage for computer servers. Server storage is yuge!
    And yet NY wants to go 100%renewables.

    I remember showing my kids a youtube that said many of the hotels near Wall St had been gutted & filled with servers because HFT trading required speed and by being those few inches closer you save 1 millipoofteenth of a second. There is a related article about the same occurring near Washington’s K Street https://www.cnbc.com/id/100880782 to get & react to govt data releases.

    CBRE finds two dozen examples of properties across the country that were once home to retailers but now have turned — or are in the process of being turned — into industrial centers.
    The trend is expected to gain in popularity as more stores and malls go dark, while retailers and third-party logistics providers alike are on the hunt for real estate for warehouses.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/30/from-toys-r-us-to-tk-heres-how-shuttered-stores-are-getting-a-new-life.html
    The cynical view on the warehousing …

    It’s easy to think of Amazon executives going home every night and bathing in their cynicism.
    The company has amassed considerable power by using technology to decimate the margins of retail competitors, until those competitors can barely breathe.

    Yet out of the limelight, Jeff Bezos’s company is doing something that would delight the most Machiavellian of cynics with its sheer beautiful gall.
    It’s often contended that Amazon has put an enormous amount of pressure on shopping malls.
    So much so that many of those malls are shutting their doors.
    Yet, as the Wall Street Journal reports, Amazon is now moving into precisely those derelict malls.
    Why? To use the space for its vast and, some might say heartless, fulfillment centers.

    https://www.inc.com/chris-matyszczyk/amazon-new-way-to-fight-walmart-its-both-brilliant-very-sad.html

  36. JC

    Here’s the Wall Street Journal reporting on the quantum computing claim.

    Alphabet Inc. ’s Google said its quantum computer has performed a calculation in about three minutes, compared with the 10,000 years it would have taken the world’s fastest conventional supercomputer.

    The calculation involves a progressively difficult random number-sampling task and the research was published Wednesday in the science journal Nature.

    The search giant claims to have achieved so-called quantum supremacy, which Google defines as a programmable quantum computer performing a task so demanding that in practical terms it would be impossible for a regular computer. The quantum processor collected one million samples of a quantum circuit in approximately 200 seconds, which would have taken a state-of-the-art supercomputer an estimated 10,000 years.

  37. pete m

    Tom, I had the issue you are having and it was cookie based. Try to delete the cat website cookie and find page via web search, then load it.

    Another trick was to go thru history to say a week before issue arose and load web page for the cat and see if it lets you get to current page.

  38. Knuckle Dragger

    I will remain unimpressed by quantum computers until they can stop the arse falling out of a Chiko Roll when bitten.

  39. bespoke

    It will simply remove the need for a Chiko Roll, KD. Skynet.

  40. struth

    Good Moaning.

    That’s right folks, a socialist starts a socialist Party.
    A National Socialist and other Nazi party members, not just Gunther, were also part of establishing the German Greens Party.
    Anti Semites and fiercely anti- American socialists, (just like Sniffy) who believed capitalism was destroying the planet.
    No different today.

    Those that Sniffy McOmmo would call “right wing” wrote books blaming capitalism and the Devil, (the United States), through books such as “Dance with the Devil” for the degradation of the planet.

  41. John Constantine

    In viktoria, no demand for, or even suggestion of an ethics committee for Skynet dissenter recognition cameras.

    As soon as andrews can get Stasi chicom secret police tech, it is unleashed on the proles.

    Calling for an ethics board is Hate Speech.

    https://www.justice.vic.gov.au/justice-system/sheriffs-in-victoria/automatic-number-plate-recognition

    Of course their sherriffs department in viktoria need numberplate recognition. Just as bad as local councils and dog registration orcs do.

    This cutting-edge technology makes Victorians more accountable for their unpaid fines.

    ANPR cameras take images of number plates, and compare these against a list of vehicles with outstanding warrants. If there is a match, the software notifies the sheriff’s officer and records the time, date, location and number plate.

    These cameras can operate in both mobile and stationary modes. Sheriff’s officers conduct mobile operations at locations such as carparks by mounting cameras to the exterior of their vehicles and reading number plates as they travel.

    The technology can also be set up in a fixed position and used at roadblock operations.

    The ANPR technology will enhance Sheriff’s Operations and show Victorians that sheriff’s officers are out in force to crack down on unpaid fines and outstanding warrants.

    Viktorians will learn the andrews OBOR State is out in force.

    Comrades.

  42. 1735099

    Hazmatic
    #3192102, posted on October 24, 2019 at 12:00 am
    I can have a crack.
    The Benefits that accrued from service in South Vietnam were:
    a. Medal entitlement
    b. The war Services Home Scheme
    c. repatriation benefits
    d. Resettlement Benefits for ARA and NS Personnel
    e. Returned Services League Benefits.

    The only one of these benefits I used was the Repatriation benefit which gave me one year’s full time at U of Q on the equivalent of the basic wage. It was useful but didn’t improve my qualifications as a teacher until I had completed a full degree. It took me four more years of evening part time study to manage that, and then another four years to get a second degree which led to post grad qualifications.

    A National Serviceman if serving in Vietnam would pay no income tax on this amount and additionally would be paid an ‘Overseas living In allowance’ worth $565 pa and a $40.00 gratuity for each year served.

    The tax issue is interesting. Twelve months after returning from Vietnam, I received a letter from the then Taxation Department demanding to know why I hadn’t lodged a tax return for the year during which I was in country. I phoned them and was admonished for not letting them know that I was going to Vietnam prior to the date by which the return had to be lodged. Foolishly, I had assumed that the Department of Labour and National Service and the Taxation Department actually communicated.

    The total earnings were $2 988.40 tax free which was equivalent to $3 400 taxable income. That’s about $70 341 in today’s money (Which most 21 year old’s would consider very decent coin.) The army of course provided food clothing and shelter. Saving a house deposit of $800 would not have been a difficult proposition.

    What a coincidence. That $70000 figure approximates the difference in today’s coin, between my army pay and what I would have been paid had a remained a teacher on probation for the two years I was in uniform. I had Shine Lawyers check this out a few years ago, as I had begun to organise a class action by National Servicemen in an attempt to remedy this injustice. The advice (free, as a favour to a fellow ex-Nasho) was that the action would fail because of the statute of limitations. Taken on earlier, it would have had a good chance of success.

    Just as there was a range of attitudes generally expressed about National Service. There were those that counted the days until their two years were up and others who were keen to extend their service.
    A good example of the latter can be found on page 71 of the Annex to the October 1970 7RAR Commanders diaries. It is a list of 30 men who applied that month to extend their period of service in Vietnam.
    What it undoubtedly demonstrates is that there was a range of attitudes towards National Service.

    I have never stated anywhere that there wasn’t a range of attitudes. My objection was to the lie that “Every National serviceman who went to Vietnam was a volunteer”, which sat on the website of the Anzac Day Commemoration Committee website for years and was taught in every school in the country.
    Given your apparent passion for telling the truth about our adventure in Vietnam, it amazes me that you let this shameful fabrication of our history pass.

    And whilst you’re researching in pursuit of the truth, here’s a couple of issues on which you can track down, and report back –
    1. Was Doug Gibbons (57089) actually a National Serviceman? You claim he was, even though he was a Duntroon graduate.
    2. Why was the soldier with regimental number 2791510 (who wore glasses) transferred from 5 Platoon B company 7 RAR to 1ALSG Vung Tau in June 1970, shortly after a soldier with glasses in that same battalion was killed by a mine? Questions had been asked in parliament about this incident.
    3. Why was it necessary to conscript 20-year olds to fight in Vietnam? Why were they not energised (as my father was when he enlisted in the RAAF a few days after he heard that Darwin had been bombed) to join up as volunteers to fight the menace from the North, that was daily, when parliament was in session, touted as an existential threat to our national security?
    4. You give the figure of 30 National Servicemen in 7 RAR who extended their period of service in 7 RAR in October 1970. Please provide the figure for those who didn’t, (in October would suffice, but if you take the time to analyse the totals for the whole tour – those who did this compared with those who didn’t – you would arrive at a much more accurate picture.
    You won’t need 800 words.
    Go for it.

  43. Dr Faustus

    From Diogenes: As controversy rages about 200 seconds v 2.5 days v 10,000 years, An Expert explains the real problem with Quantum Supremacy:

    IBM’s researchers argue that the term “supremacy” is in danger of being misunderstood by those outside the rarefied world of quantum geeks.

    The post acknowledges a recent article by Professor John Preskill which highlights two main objections: firstly, that the phrasing increases overhyped reporting of quantum computing and, secondly, that it evokes white supremacy.

    Burn the witch.

  44. RobK

    I will remain unimpressed by quantum computers until they can stop the arse falling out of a Chiko Roll when bitten.
    You need to look to greasegun cartridge technology for that.

  45. Knuckle Dragger

    Was reading last night about Edward, the Black Prince’s chevauchee across southern France from Gascogny and back in 1355 before the battle of Poitiers the following year.

    Crops destroyed. Villages, towns and cities burned to the ground. Massacres carried out with gay abandon. Tax records from churches seized. Regional governors paying homage. Local ladeee water carriers inconvenienced, no doubt (although that wasn’t specified, probs because patriarchy). The wholesale destruction of military capability in half a country.

    Said Black Prince was feted as a hero. Dad, Edward III was so proud. So, so proud.

    Today, kick someone off a retaining wall (or small cliff, same thing right?) and express a desire that an enemy should be shot and see how far you get.

  46. Diogenes

    Maybe Apple products are better used when everything else is Apple based

    Nope. Mrs D has had iPad minis since they were released (I still have an iPad 3 and 2012 mac mini). Each iteration of iOS has made it harder to use and do the things she wants. When we upgraded from 2G dumbphones to 4G as the 2G was about to be closed down (all we want the [email protected]~%@~ thing for is make & receive calls & texts) we decided to make the leap I was happy to buy her an iPhone as she would be familiar with the UI. We went to the local phone emporium & tried out a few different phones, and to my amazement really liked the Nokia 950 with Windows on it, but they had sold out and no one had stock, she picked out a Sammy rather than an iPhone, and when her iPad’s hardware button failed, she decided on a Sammy tablet.

    . iTunes on a Mac basically does it all for you

    Be prepared for some pain when you upgrade to “Catalina”
    https://www.businessinsider.com.au/apple-killing-itunes-macos-catalina-what-happens-to-your-library-2019-6?r=US&IR=T

  47. John Constantine

    https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/eyes-on-the-road-number-plate-cameras-for-highway-patrol-cars-20190213-p50xkx.html

    Police say they are targeting country Victoria first, because a disproportionate number of people die on rural roads compared to the city and suburbs.

    “This is a significant change in how we police our roads and how we will improve road safety, reduce risks on our roads and also overall improve community safety,” Police Minister Lisa Neville said.

    “We’re making sure Victoria Police has all the resources they need to nab dangerous drivers and get them off the roads.”

    The technology will send alerts to police officers, who can immediately access the information via an iPad app, Victoria Police Assistant Commissioner Stephen Leane said.

    He said it would mean both police officers in a highway patrol car could have their eyes on the road, instead of one having to use a laptop to check number plates

    “It’s about more time with our eyes up and our eyes on the road,” he said.

    The patrol cars will also be fitted with a new in-car video system that will record traffic stops and roadside intercepts.

    Country viktoria is always the first target, because lower diversity levels means easier shaking of the bugs out of the new secret police system, without calls of racism if it goes wrong.

  48. bespoke

    My objection was to the lie that “Every National serviceman who went to Vietnam was a volunteer”, which sat on the website of the Anzac Day Commemoration Committee website for years and was taught in every school in the country.

    Rubbish and when it was it’s a detail that was forgotten by most.

  49. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘as I had begun to organise a class action by National Servicemen in an attempt to remedy this injustice.’

    Pro bono advocacy, no doubt.

    Today’s BFB fiction snippet brought to you by ‘just a little white-knighting, every day’ Four Leaf Fibbing Tayback.

  50. struth

    A young woman introduced a show called the death of Britain, on SBS.
    What is happening in Britain she opined, and then explained her version of Brexit events, concluding that if Boris doesn’t get his deal through (not Brexit in Struth’s opinion) it would be the end of Britain due to the disaster that would befall it if a no deal Brexit was to ensue .
    Big call from this young thing, I thought, as I immediately turned channels.

    How do these people become such ahistorical morons?

    It all starts in our schools, as it is here, the Marxists in Australia are pushing pre school children to become anti western , Marxist political activists.
    Where’s the outrage at the child abuse?
    Is it because the parents, who in their 20’s and 30’s now, were also brainwashed and the Marxists in education know they can now get away with it.
    Or as the self confessed Marxist boy girl thing in charge of safe schools states, the parents are irrelevant?
    Is it both?

    It’s both.
    I don’t know how many of you have actually had anything to do with the filth in our education system, but I have had a bit to do with them.
    They are seething with rage against the west.
    The worst are the women, by far, the few men being weaklings and betas, and their mission in life is taken up with the zealotry of insanity.
    They will not be stopped.

    We cannot leave fighting this filth up to the generations of 20 and 30 something parents already brainwashed.
    This is a job for older Australians who don’t have children in the system anymore, but fear for Australia’s future and despair at the misery being inflicted upon these , our nation’s youth.
    It’s pure child abuse.
    It is evil, these people are sick with anger and hate, and they’re at our nation’s children.
    It must be stopped.
    It all starts in our schools.

  51. John Constantine

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-18/speeding-fines-in-victoria-sky-rocket-as-cameras-go-digital/11613692

    The steep increase in fines was revealed in the latest annual report from Victoria’s Office of the Road Safety Camera Commissioner (ORSCC), which listed 10 new intersection cameras in parts of Melbourne including Clayton, Coburg, St Kilda East and East Brighton as well as in Geelong.

    The report showed that the 10 cameras recorded an increase of almost $12.5 million in fines after they had been switched over from film technology to digital.

    “The road safety consequences are that more drivers have received a reminder that speeding is unacceptable,” the Road Safety Camera Commissioner John Voyage noted in the report.

    In the 2015-16 financial year, the 10 film cameras listed took in just over $250,000 and recorded 660 infringements.

    But after the cameras were changed to digital, the same intersections saw infringements jump to 51,000 and fines blow out to $12.65 million.

    Robot traffic cameras to take your licence on points, numberplate recognition cameras to pick you up in your workplace carpark.

    No public transport in rural victoria means losing your licence on points loses your job and mortgage and puts you under house arrest.

  52. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Country viktoria is always the first target, because lower diversity levels means easier shaking of the bugs out of the new secret police system, without calls of racism if it goes wrong.’

    This is a gem. Superbly accurate.

  53. Dr Faustus

    ANPR cameras take images of number plates, and compare these against a list of vehicles with outstanding warrants. If there is a match, the software notifies the sheriff’s officer and records the time, date, location and number plate.

    We are about 5 years away from cars denouncing their owners to Authorities.

    Modern car navigation systems are already set up to record route/speed history – and smart car systems can detect and respond to road signs. Once Skynet realises that there are enough politically reliable vehicles on the road, a small software modification will be all that is required to have your car automatically detect and self-report traffic infringements.

    Either pay-as-you-go via internet, or an annual social licence checkup at a SafeHappyDrive Centre to cleanse your debt and receive your software key for the next 12 months driving.

    Who but the worst type of citizen could object to safer motoring?

  54. Top Ender

    Speaking of the march of technology I am enjoying my fight with Foxtel.

    They replaced their box with the new IQ3.

    The one had conventional sound output on the back, so you could hook it up to your sound system and enjoy Freddy Mercury etc with high sound quality.

    This has been dropped on the new box. The only outputs are HDMI to connect your television, and an optical output which does not have the full sound range of 5.1 – rather two channels and no subwoofer signal.

    So I told them I wanted the old box back.

    Much fussing and confusing advice. Some of it via text and I had a go at them with a few screenshots sent to the Complaints department, complaining about their English levels.

    The latest is – well, you CAN get around it by purchasing a splitter box for the HDMI signal.

    I have requested they supply such a splitter.

    We shall see.

  55. areff

    3AW reporting a blistering hot day ahead in Trashcanistan on the Yarra.

    33C!

    Little reportery persons in the newsroom are now so brainwashed they felt obliged to tap the expertise of a meteorologist, who assured them that temperatures often rise as summer draws near.

    I’ve come believe the entry qualification for journalism is now an IQ test. Those with scores smaller than their waist measurements get the job.

  56. struth

    which sat on the website of the Anzac Day Commemoration Committee website for years and was taught in every school in the country.

    Bullshit.
    Most young people have never heard of Vietnam, and if they have know SFA about it, it’s ancient History.
    The schools I attended back in the 70’s and 80’s never talked about it, and the only thing kids these days know of history are the anti western lies told to them by fucking arseholes like you.

  57. Knuckle Dragger

    Dr F,

    This is exactly the sort of shit that makes me even more determined to buy a Mini Moke.

    And have someone (illegally, naturally) wind the gears out and supercharge it.

  58. RobK

    a small software modification will be all that is required to have your car automatically detect and self-report traffic infringements.
    An even smaller change to any phone in any car. A question of time.

  59. Top Ender

    Kelso Lawyers now advertising on Facebook:

    Suffered sexual or physical abuse while serving in the Army, Navy or Air Force? Get compensation. Get justice.

  60. Eyrie

    Apple products are shit. I have a 5 year old iPad mini which wasn’t too bad with the original iOS 6 and has become progressively more useless as the OS got upgraded. It won’t run any past 9 anyway. FFS it can’t hang on to a website on its own Safari browser. I hope they never make self driving cars.
    I’m turfing it in favour of a Samsung Android tablet to run Avplan on the new Android version. Our Samsung J2 pro phones ($139 each at Woolies) are brilliant. You can program phone answering on the big button in the middle below the screen.

  61. Knuckle Dragger

    Weather beta on the teev showing some disaster porn. ‘This will be the hottest day since early autumn’, he intoned, referring to the southeast of the country.

    I will make the outlandish assumption that because it’s (nominally) a bloke weatherperson, he has some sort of weather qualification instead of being part of the interminable unspoken competition between the ladeees to see who can look the least like mutton dressed as lamb.

    If so, more proof – if any were needed – that any form of tertiary education is useless.

  62. Mother Lode

    The Beeb now telling us about Republican chaos making things difficult for the Trump impeachment inquiry.

    Well, at least since yesterday they have worked out that there are no impeachment proceedings. They have yet to work out that a clutch of Democrats (who have been screeching ‘impeachment’, citing ‘lies’, ‘crimes’, ‘corruption’ for two years but not been able to get anywhere near impeaching) setting up a little club within their party does not constitute an official inquiry.

    There are people out there who really think an impeachment is imminent (which, of course it is not) and when nothing happens they will only be able to make sense of it by imagining more of the same (unsubstantiated) shenanigans from Trump.

    His repeatedly being found innocent will become ever stronger ‘proof’ of guilt.

  63. Percy Popinjay

    Shocked scientists uncovered the rat-catching macaques on palm oil plantations – and say the hungry predators could be used as pest control.

    If the macaques have been known to eat the odd amphibian our beloved bureaucrats could ship some over here to finally solve the cane toad “problem”.

    What could possibly go wrong?

  64. 1735099

    It is evil, these people are sick with anger and hate, and they’re at our nation’s children.

    The only people “sick with anger and hate” are you, and a few others like you who post here.
    Anger and hate drip from every word, every phrase.
    Fortunately, you’re a minority.
    Extremists always are.

  65. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘The schools I attended back in the 70’s and 80’s never talked about it, and the only thing kids these days know of history are the anti western lies told to them by fucking arseholes like you.’

    Funny. That’s my recollection (or lack thereof) as well.

    Mind you, and completely separate from the incontrovertible fact that the statement is true, this is what happens when a person becomes fixated by a single event that in the context of their own entire lives, let alone generations, is in fact minutiae.

  66. Dr Faustus

    This is exactly the sort of shit that makes me even more determined to buy a Mini Moke.
    And have someone (illegally, naturally) wind the gears out and supercharge it.

    The beauty of the A series engine is that you can massively boost the power output by simple modifications. This is the bible – that guides you from 40HP to 150HP+.

    The downside is any form of prang in a Moke leaves you surrounded by fragments of metal with an engine in your lap.

  67. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Cowardice and self-importance drip from every word, every phrase.
    Fortunately, you’re a minority.
    Extremists always are.’

    FIFY FLT.

  68. P

    Xavier Rynne II: Letters from the Synod for the Amazon Vol 8 – October 23

    “INCULTURATION” AND THE CULTURE THAT IS THE CHURCH
    by George Weigel

  69. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘The downside is any form of prang in a Moke leaves you surrounded by fragments of metal with an engine in your lap.’

    Either that or going low-level hang gliding without a hang glider, but yes. In a joint where seven out of ten vehicles are high-sprung battered souped-up 4WD utes with bull bars and Arab Amstaff crosses jammed in cages welded onto the tray, this has to be taken into account.

    I’ll put my trust in my range of Hawaiian shirts to provide adequate visibility.

  70. whirrwhirr

    Mr Rusty
    #3192122, posted on October 24, 2019 at 12:22 am
    .
    The Greens all originated from the German Green Party which was an offshoot of the World Union for the Protection of Life founded by Gunther Schwaab, a eugenicist and Nazi. At the founding of The Greens his speeches were quoted. Thus The Greens are the only political party to be founded by a Nazi on the words of a Nazi.
    .
    Do remember to bring this up at the next dinner party you attend when someone proudly declares they voted for The Greens.

    If you brought up Gunther Schwab at a dinner party I would tell you to do some more reading, or at least something outside of the Delingpole, American Thinker echo chamber, or where ever you get your BS talking points from.
    .
    Most Green parties do not originate from the German Green Party. The first two parties that contested elections in 1972 were in Tasmania and New Zealand; and like the many that started around the world subsequently, they were formed around grassroots environmental campaigns. In particular the anti-nuclear movement in the 70’s, was strong and broad enough that some naive campaigners thought that a pivot to electoral politics might be more effective. But most green parties that begin in the 70’s also expanded beyond environmental issues to include New Left concerns like civil rights, anti-war policies, and a misguided reformist urge to democratize the same political system of hierarchy they were trying to gain entry into.
    .

    Green politics in West Germany was a little more fractured and complicated. Since the late 60’s the West German state encourage greater community participation through these associations called ‘Citizen’s Initiatives’ (CI) and many of these groups coalesced around local environmental issues. Because of their localised nature, urban vs rural groups etc they varied in their broader ideologies though. Some were solely NIMBY’s, other were looking for more structural changes, some were conservative rural farmers. In 1978 the first environmental CI that tried its luck in state elections, in Lower Saxony, was the conservative ‘Green List for Environmental Protection’. It was this group that was influenced by the ‘World Union for the Protection of Life’.
    .

    Over the next 2 years these different CI’s would campaign against each other at various elections, before agreeing to a truce of sorts to form the German Green Party in 1980. It didn’t last long, and the divisions over broader social policies, fractured the coalition and all the conservative factions left, including the Green List for Environmental Protection. They went on to form the Ecological Democratic Party, which has had limited success, but is still going, and at one time had the Schwab associated, Holocaust denying Haverbeck couple as members. Meanwhile the not-Nazi German Greens continue to thrive as reformists shills, and are still the gay loving, terrorist supporting, commies that you obviously know SFA about!

  71. Mother Lode

    and, secondly, that it evokes white supremacy

    It does?

    Seriously, how messed up would you have to be to hear a word like supremacy and have ‘white supremacy’ leap into your mind. And this person would consider he is the sane one.

    Besides, words evolve in their meanings. Why wouldn’t the substance of new usages eclipse remote associations of the old.

    After all, the word supremacy had distinct meaning before the expression ‘white supremacy’. Why not contend that when people say ‘white supremacy’ they are evoking the original meaning?

    Which is meaning that Google is using.

  72. Knuckle Dragger

    URGENT SYRIA UPDATE:

    Nothing happened.

  73. 1735099

    Rubbish and when it was it’s a detail that was forgotten by most.

    What is “rubbish”?
    The reality that the statement was a lie, or that it was on the website for years, a “go to” website for every teacher who wanted to access a unit on Anzac Day?
    Both are facts.

    Since when does an incorrect “detail” magically convert to the truth because it’s only a detail?
    So it’s OK to “forget” the 200+ Nashos who were killed?
    Laurence Binyon had other ideas.

  74. Percy Popinjay

    This has been dropped on the new box. The only outputs are HDMI to connect your television, and an optical output which does not have the full sound range of 5.1 – rather two channels and no subwoofer signal.

    TE – you can get around this if your TV has an optical digital output socket (most modern TVs do). Run the HDMI cable from the fox box into the telly and your optical cable from the telly to your amp.

    Or have you tried this already?

    BTW, the optical cables’ sound reporduction is inferior to the HDMI cables anyway. I no longer use them for that reason.

  75. Percy Popinjay

    “sound reproduction”

  76. 1735099

    If you brought up Gunther Schwab at a dinner party I would tell you to do some more reading, or at least something outside of the Delingpole, American Thinker echo chamber, or where ever you get your BS talking points from.

    You’re wasting your time on this site, old mate.
    You’re correct though, it is simply that – a regurgitation of every shonky Right wing blog and echo chamber originating from the other side of the Pacific.

  77. Percy Popinjay

    VEITMAN! VEITMAN! VEITMAN!

  78. Percy Popinjay

    You stupid syphilis addled monomaniacal narcissistic ol’ onanist shithead.

  79. John Constantine

    How many infertility clusters occur in ABC offices where a culture of heavily medicated vegan anxious socialism rules?.

    What is the occupational health and safety liability of an organisation that permits infertility clusters to infect the workplace?.

    Unless that is the desired outcome.

  80. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘In 1978 the first environmental CI that tried its luck in state elections, in Lower Saxony, was the conservative ‘Green List for Environmental Protection’. It was this group that was influenced by the ‘World Union for the Protection of Life’.’

    Okay. A big ‘well done’ for copying the Green History statement in The Big Issue, sold by nuffies on Melbourne street corners.

    But you still haven’t negated:

    ‘The Greens all originated from the German Green Party which was an offshoot of the World Union for the Protection of Life founded by Gunther Schwaab, a eugenicist and Nazi.’

  81. Arky

    I have come to really hate that blue southern cross flag.

  82. Tel

    URGENT SYRIA UPDATE:

    Nothing happened.

    There was a deal recently between Russia and Turkey … who gets access to what part of Syria.

    https://www.jns.org/russia-deploys-troops-to-syria-turkey-border-with-goal-of-removing-kurdish-fighters/

    Putin keeps Assad in place, and Turkey gets a bit of extra land. Kurds given instructions to retreat. Some Russian troops will hang around and keep an eye on Turkey.

  83. 1735099

    VEITMAN! VEITMAN! VEITMAN!

    Scroll back.
    The topic was introduced by Hazmatic. (#3192102, posted on October 24, 2019 at 12:00 am)

  84. Tel

    I have come to really hate that blue southern cross flag.

    Disgusting the way left wingers love imposing high tax on business and on anyone successful, and love even more giving powers to unelected government nobodies … and they have stolen the flag of a revolt against high taxes and corrupt government nobodies.

    Dishonesty does fool a lot of people.

  85. bespoke

    1735099
    #3192216, posted on October 24, 2019 at 8:36 am

    You did a good thing, numberwang, but making yourself out to be a national hero only diminishes it.

    Name one doco on Vietnam that describes “the draft” or “conscription” in the context as being volunteers?.

  86. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘The reality that the statement was a lie, or that it was on the website for years, a “go to” website for every teacher who wanted to access a unit on Anzac Day?’

    Oh.

    So after all that ‘it was taught in every school in Australia’, which it clearly wasn’t in the first place, it’s now ‘only for people who wanted to teach it.’ A go-to website.

    Are you saying teachers couldn’t do any research themselves? Couldn’t find out the real story? That they swallowed this hideous propaganda when it was fed to them with having the wherewithal to find out the TRUTH???? That – that teachers are somehow machines, regurgitating lines fed to them by others?

    You monster.

    NB: How was this little factoid disseminated between the Mordor campaign, aka Vietnam, and the widespread introduction of the Internet as a teaching resource?

  87. Tel

    Turkey is in the process of deporting two million refugees … apparently it IS possible to do.

    When Trump talked about deporting about the same number of “Dreamers” (a legal category that was created by Obama personally and never agreed by Congress in any way, therefore has no basis under US law) we are told … that’s not possible!

  88. mh

    Police probe suspected Irish people-smuggling ring after 39 migrants are found frozen to death

    I couldn’t believe the msm was so insistent last night that it was murder. Another msm fail.

    39 migrants dead…pffft. Labor killed thousands under Rudd/Gillard.

  89. bespoke

    Scroll back.

    Sure, decades.

  90. Top Ender

    Thanks for that Percy – will check.

  91. Knuckle Dragger

    Tel,

    Yup.

    And the local equivalent – ‘the boats cannot be stopped.’

  92. Top Ender

    Whirrwhirr’s comment above caused me to go back and check what I posted a few months back about Bob Brown and his Greens Party’s start:

    Brown was a loon in 1970s Hobart when I was a young bloke there. From memory he was a GP working in the Royal Hobart Hospital.

    His first big effort at big-noting himself was to complain about the USS Enterprise visiting Hobart.

    A US aircraft carrier and attendant ships on a multi-day visit would bring a big cash injection to the local shops. As it usually is, the Tasmanian economy was in the toilet. Everyone – well, 99% of the locals – welcomed the opportunities.

    Brown protested about the Enterprise being nuclear powered, by going and sitting on top of Mt Wellington. I forget the time of year but it’s usually cold up there any month. Myself and mates got a visit to the Enterprise, and Brown surveyed it all from atop the mountain for several days.

    He was then off to the Wilderness Society, and his career path was set for the next 40 years.

    He’s basically an ultra-socialist who wants to see us all living in huts in the wood, trading beads with each other. Push him on how big societies need big sewerage systems and electricity and so on and he goes all quiet.

  93. Arky

    Can we just admit that a tiny, minuscule minority of Vietnam era nashos for whatever reason, missed out on being told they did not have to serve in Vietnam?
    And at least one of them, in order to preserve a possible future career in state schooling, did as he was told and went to war against a murderous totalitarian regime he sympathised with?
    Is there anything incorrect in this assessment?
    Let us reach a final consensus and move on to more important matters.

  94. Knuckle Dragger

    You just know Delcon’s reading this.

    And screaming at his many cats with murderous, impotent rage.

  95. stackja

    Future Victoria: The bold ideas to revive and rename the Yarra River

    A European-style promenade, floating swimming pool and inner-city ferry are among ideas to spruce up the Yarra River — as well as a push to rename the iconic waterway.
    IAN ROYALL, Herald Sun
    Subscriber only

    October 24, 2019 6:30am

    A river walk to rival Europe’s famed promenades, a floating swimming pool and garden over historic Sandridge Bridge have been proposed to revitalise the Yarra River.

    A new inner-city ferry service running from Spotswood to Chapel St and overhauling the river’s under-utilised North Bank have also been mooted.

    And the Yarra River should be renamed Birrarung to acknowledge its indigenous history, a forum of Melbourne’s business and government leaders has declared.

    “We did this with Uluru, so why not the Yarra?” Melbourne Water’s Kate Nagato said.

    A report from the Yarra River Big Ideas Forum found a recurring discussion point was to re-identify the Yarra River with its traditional name, Birrarung.

    Do you agree? TAKE THE POLL

    Should the Yarra River be renamed to Birrarung River?
    Yes 13% No 87% 1270 Voters

  96. mh

    Putin keeps Assad in place, and Turkey gets a bit of extra land. Kurds given instructions to retreat. Some Russian troops will hang around and keep an eye on Turkey.

    Trump decision to remove US troops ✅

  97. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘And at least one of them, in order to preserve a possible future career in state schooling, did as he was told and went to war against a murderous totalitarian regime he sympathised with?’

    Volunteered, then.

    Yes. Agreed. Time to move on. Not ignore, but move on.

  98. Percy Popinjay

    Is there anything incorrect in this assessment?

    One significant omission – you didn’t mention the individual you’re referring to is as thick as pigshit.

    Otherwise, no argument from me.

  99. lotocoti

    he has some sort of weather qualification

    Because of liability issues, weatherpersons only disseminate the official BOM forecast.
    A weather qualification is only useful for padding out a three minute slot by mansplaining the BOM forecast.

  100. Knuckle Dragger

    The Yarra should indeed be renamed.

    It should now be forever known as Markle Creek.

    Poisonous, bereft of independent life and a receptacle for the detritus of Western society.

  101. Mother Lode

    URGENT SYRIA UPDATE:

    Nothing happened.

    Nothing!

    My GOD! Why doesn’t Trump do something!

    Every soldier who deserts the helpless doe-eyed Kurds, after swearing a blood oath that they will never leave them and siring countless children on the womenfolk, should be pelted with faeces from Satan’s own anus, and their families be sent envelopes containing white powder.

    And their CiC should undergo a variation of the poena cullei for his faithlessness – stictched up in a leather sack with a bear (because Wussia), a black pig (for the black women he has forced to become overweight), a monkey (for his mischievousness and pooh-flinging), and a vulture (for his appetite for carrion), and the whole thing dropped into the Potomac river.

    Amiright?

  102. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Amiright?’

    Hahaaaa.

    *golf clap*

  103. Mater

    1735099
    #3192181, posted on October 24, 2019 at 7:48 am

    The Benefits that accrued from service in South Vietnam were:
    a. Medal entitlement
    b. The war Services Home Scheme
    c. repatriation benefits
    d. Resettlement Benefits for ARA and NS Personnel
    e. Returned Services League Benefits.

    The only one of these benefits I used was the Repatriation benefit which gave me one year’s full time at U of Q on the equivalent of the basic wage.

    OK, Bob. Let’s cut through the pedantry. Did you use the Defence Service Home Loan Scheme?

  104. Bruce of Newcastle

    Meanwhile the not-Nazi German Greens continue to thrive as reformists shills, and are still the gay loving, terrorist supporting, commies that you obviously know SFA about!

    Yes says the German Intelligence boss.

    German Intelligence Chief: Green movement infiltrated by left-wing extremists (22 Oct)

    Hamburg’s domestic intelligence boss Torsten Voss has alerted the German establishment to left-wing extremists infiltrating their ranks.

    Quite explicable when you recall that the national socialists were lefties too, just nationalist rather than internationalist like Comintern. So the Green Left worldwide is an ongoing civil war as each side of the Left vies to control this latest vehicle for achieving power.

  105. Nob

    My dream is to see the north bank from Princes Bridge to Punt Road lined with a nuclear power station, an aluminium smelter and an oil refinery.

    Let’s make Birrarung the envy of the world!

  106. Mother Lode

    Are you saying teachers couldn’t do any research themselves?

    Teachers since the 70’s (and the Teachers Federation) have always been a pretty conservative bunch, and would never have caviled a narrative from the government regarding a conflict against communists.

  107. Mother Lode

    German Intelligence Chief: Green movement infiltrated by left-wing extremists

    Infiltrated.

    Right.

    And my family has been infiltrated by my parents, brothers and sisters.

  108. mh

    The Art of the Deal

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    5h
    Thank you General Mazloum for your kind words and courage. Please extend my warmest regards to the Kurdish people. I look forward to seeing you soon.
    @mustefabali

  109. areff

    This business of renaming in the Indigene style is not without peril. Consider the disputed origin of ‘Moomba’:

    At Melbourne’s very first Moomba carnival in March of 1955, my father recalls Sir Reginald Dallas Brooks, opening the proceedings from the banks of the Yarra river. In his crown-appointed role as Governor of Victoria, he made a plummy declaration that ‘moomba’ is an Aboriginal word meaning ‘Let’s get together and have fun’. This definition has been repeated to Victorian schoolchildren ever since.

    But a long-standing legend has it the moomba means something quite different altogether. In many Aboriginal languages, -ba is a suffix that roughly means ‘at the place of’. And every Koori knows that mum – which rhymes with ‘vroom’ – is the local word for ‘bum’.

    So Moomba effectively means ‘up your bum’.

    A widely circulated story has it that Bill Onus, a former president of the Australian Aborigines League, suggested the name to the festival organisers as a cheeky joke. A well known unionist, Onus was getting back at the city council for having deliberately upstaged the traditional Labour Day march with a popular carnival….

    We should all be concerned that a re-named Yarra might actually translate as something akin to “brown, slow-moving anal seepage”.

    Actually, that would have the benefit of being accurate.

  110. Bruce of Newcastle

    He’s basically an ultra-socialist who wants to see us all living in huts in the wood, trading beads with each other. Push him on how big societies need big sewerage systems and electricity and so on and he goes all quiet.

    Ironic that Bob Brown is now opposing wind farms on the grounds that they massacre birds and bats. So basically what the Right has been saying is correct, it has just taken him 20 years to realise it.

    I wonder what else the Right is right about that he hasn’t come around to?

  111. Geriatric Mayfly

    And fears of “sizzling” temperatures in Sydney. Don’t expect to fry your eggs on the car bonnet. A whole 33C.

    What is the new metric for when a tepid ‘sizzler’ morphs into a tepid ‘stinker?’

  112. min

    I don’t know why Melbournians are worried about changing the name of river when Chairman Dan is in China signing up to Belts and roads . He has already sold off half the port to Chinese and has now extended our indebtedness .

  113. John Constantine

    It has been politically expedient for australia to spend a trillion dollars in the unswerving committment to dynamiting australian industry and power generation and depending on imports from chicom slave labour factories.

    The political dogma is that aging pale stale dissenter laconic disrespectful australian proles must be replaced with youthful mass millions of imported compliant classes from the worlds poorest countries.

    None of the aging lefties have yet asked what would have happened if the trillion dollars had been spent enabling healthful and productive aging instead of progressing Tyranny.

    “We deserve to die out” weep the anxious aging anglo left ” we are the worst people ever”.

    Then airlift a million grannies into australian aged care that were maos red guards in the cultural revolution that murdered fifty millions.

  114. mh

    “Sometimes you have to let them fight. It’s like two kids in a lot, you got to let them fight and then you pull them apart.”

    — President Donald Trump

  115. struth

    Fuck me.
    You know you are over the target when lefties come in writing (or cut and pasting) great slabs of bullshit that doesn’t address the statements we’ve made, because they’re all butt hurt.

    The greens were founded everywhere by anti capitalist , anti American socialist radicals and due to Nazis being socialist, they obviously started the German, then worldwide movement.
    They use dumb arseholes as followers who are naïve and believe it’s about the environment, and these people are displayed by the left in a dishonest laughable way, as if they were the organisers and senior party members.
    Nazis, and many of them, started the Greens political party which is an obviously socialist party, and anyone denying that is in a sad state of mental breakdown.
    Nazis were socialists.
    Always were.

    Oh and , Baby killing , r a p e facilitating, anti British , anti western, Bob McOmmo, the lying propagandist , to you I say ,we won the election, and those that are the majority of Australians , think just like me.
    You just don’t do facts well, do you!
    You don’t get out enough.

  116. whirrwhirr

    Knuckle Dragger
    #3192225, posted on October 24, 2019 at 8:45 am

    Okay. A big ‘well done’ for copying the Green History statement in The Big Issue, sold by nuffies on Melbourne street corners.

    Oh I don’t need to copy from The Big Issue. This is a debate I have had a few times with folks who try on the Nazi guilt by tenuous association ploy

    But you still haven’t negated:

    ‘The Greens all originated from the German Green Party which was an offshoot of the World Union for the Protection of Life founded by Gunther Schwaab, a eugenicist and Nazi.’

    The World Union for the Protection of Life was an influence on a small faction in Lower Saxony, that went on to briefly form an electoral coalition that was the beginning of the German Green Party. That is where the connection ends. I have yet to read or be presented with anything that proves otherwise. There were also other small conservative factions like Herbert Gruhl’s “Green Action for the Future” in early GGP, but he too left after clashing with the democratic, egalitarian majority of the party. The party broadened its focus beyond environmental issues, and those looking for an ‘environmental dictatorship’ were not welcome anymore

    That most Green Parties founding principles are diametrically opposed to what Gunther Schwab stood for, shows that it really is a stupid attempt at an argument

  117. John Constantine

    Going by what use the Tyrant puts the rivers of China to, the new OBOR yarra will soon enough become the open channel carrying the effluent from the new chicom wool scouring plant out into the ocean.

  118. Arky

    Don’t be silly.
    We have neither the power nor the technology required to clean wool.

  119. Arky
    #3192066, posted on October 23, 2019 at 10:46 pm

    Watching that Snowden shit.
    Guy was one of those weedy girly fuckends who couldn’t make it through recruit training.

    Now you “want to hang him”, you authoritarian degenerate?

    Jesus christ man, he’s better than nearly all of the women who get hand held their way through, don’t make the grade, get front line roles then get promoted to NCO or various grades of commissioned officer.

    Like him or not, the US has become what it was fighting against for all of its history. A behemoth that can ruin millions of lives even unintentionally.

  120. Old School Conservative

    it was taught in every school in Australia

    This was in the days before the national curriculum, so that means every state had this issue contained in their own unique state-wide syllabus.
    Proof please or it didn’t happen.

  121. 1735099

    Oh I don’t need to copy from The Big Issue. This is a debate I have had a few times with folks who try on the Nazi guilt by tenuous association ploy

    Calling out bullshit is considered bad form on this site.
    It conflicts with the orthodoxy.
    Good luck…..

  122. bespoke

    Let us reach a final consensus and move on to more important matters.

    Not chance in hell, Arky. When Numberwang used a girl who starved herself to death as another excuse to exploit to talk about him. That was a sure sign of his motivations. Disgusting self-absorbed parasite..

  123. Top Ender

    A link below to Stackja’s story above if you want to vote in the poll to rename the Yarra.

    Doubtless paywalled but.

    https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/future-melbourne/future-victoria-the-bold-ideas-to-revive-and-rename-the-yarra-river/news-story/437608aa9ff9a0b3d51d10db1606084c

    I recall I said on this very here site that sooner or later someone will try to get Victoria and Queensland renamed….you read it here first.

  124. lotocoti

    Any suggestion that die Grünen got seed money from the Sovs to interfere with REFORGER exercises is just wild-eyed nonsense.
    Likewise the Ladies of Greenham Common.
    *Wink*

  125. Bruce of Newcastle

    That most Green Parties founding principles are diametrically opposed to what Gunther Schwab stood for, shows that it really is a stupid attempt at an argument

    That was then. Now Greens have adopted fascist ideology and tactics.

    The driving force is quite similar. An unshakeable belief in manifest destiny, a belief that only they can save the world from whichever myth is their current bête noire, and a detestation of the deplorable voters who don’t know what is good for them. Brown shirts are now green shirts, except for Antifa who like black shirts again.

    The main reason why the Greens haven’t pulled off a kale-aisle putsch is that they adopted non-violence in the sixties and can’t overcome that hang up. Although with Antifa seeking and getting training from MENA men recently that hang up seems to be eroding.

  126. IT is right about malls.

    We need looser zoning laws in the west. A lot of this needs re purposing.

    Let the entrepreneurs decide, but maybe office space, mixed use, some residential, restaurants, pubs?

    Somewhat of a strange YT channel, but it really hammer shome how retail has changed or died.

    The fact that a “new” retailer like “Forever 21” is dying bodes poorly. Those slatternly online retailers are killing them.

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCR2LNeZSqINp0WTd_eWCIGg

  127. struth

    The World Union for the Protection of Life was an influence on a small faction in Lower Saxony, that went on to briefly form an electoral coalition that was the beginning of the German Green Party. That is where the connection ends. I have yet to read or be presented with anything that proves otherwise. There were also other small conservative factions like Herbert Gruhl’s “Green Action for the Future” in early GGP, but he too left after clashing with the democratic, egalitarian majority of the party. The party broadened its focus beyond environmental issues, and those looking for an ‘environmental dictatorship’ were not welcome anymore

    That most Green Parties founding principles are diametrically opposed to what Gunther Schwab stood for, shows that it really is a stupid attempt at an argument

    You should go into politics.
    Weazel words.
    Where does his theories differ to socialists today?
    Just another dyed in the wool old socialist.

    Günther Schwab (7 October 1904 in Prague – 12 April 2006 in Salzburg, Austria) was an Austrian writer and author, and member of the Nazi party.[1] He founded the World Union for Protection of Life.

    In 1951, he gave up his profession, moved to Salzburg and dedicated his life to writing. He realised that the new upcoming 1950s affluent society threatened to destroy all that he loved: the countryside with all its inhabitants, the solitude of the wilderness, the wildlife as he knew it up to then. Günther Schwab proved to be almost clairvoyant when, at the age of 50, he held a lecture with the title “The catastrophe has started already”, at the Audi Max in Vienna in 1954.

    To explain his fears more plainly and understandably for the man in the street, Günther Schwab wrote his book Der Tanz mit dem Teufel (The dance with the devil). It reads like a subtle, interesting detective story, which he finished in 1958. The theme was mankind’s industrial sins causing environmental damage in condemning many Americans as degenerates.

    Admit it, you had a bit to do with being a greenie in ya yoof and this reality gets you all butt hurt!

  128. Wow.

    Who wants to wear a Cheetos shirt?

    No wonder that fashion company died!

  129. struth

    In 1951, he gave up his profession, moved to Salzburg and dedicated his life to writing. He realised that the new upcoming 1950s affluent society threatened to destroy all that he loved: the countryside with all its inhabitants, the solitude of the wilderness, the wildlife as he knew it up to then

    With true left wing delusion, he stands in the environmental disaster of socialist caused WW2 Europe and sees American capitalist industrialisation as the problem for the environment.

  130. mh

    Donald J. Trump Retweeted

    Reince Priebus
    @Reince
    Love these Libs melting down because @seanspicer keeps surviving – maybe it’s because people are actually voting for him! He’s not even close to the bottom two. #DWTS
    @realDonaldTrump
    12:14 PM · Oct 22, 2019

  131. 1735099

    the majority of Australians , think just like me.
    You just don’t do facts well, do you!
    You don’t get out enough.

    Well no, the majority don’t think at all like you.
    Not if it’s reflected in the way they voted at the last election.
    5906804 voters supported the Coalition.
    6235033 supported Labor and/or the Greens.
    Or, to be more accurate, given that most of what you advocate here resembles extreme One Nation rhetoric, you’re part of a very small Right wing cohort.
    They scored 438587, (3.19% of the total vote) which resembles the usual distribution of extremists in any average population.
    (Source – AEC party totals – 2019 federal election)

  132. bespoke

    Note to numberwangs supervisor.

    He is not against the draft or national service.

    He has no sympathy ( at least not on [email protected]@@sh Religious grounds) for conscientious objectors.

    Summery: he is pissed because it was him.

  133. Bruce of Newcastle

    5906804 voters supported the Coalition.
    6235033 supported Labor and/or the Greens.

    Numbers forgets the other couple million voters, which just happen to include many if not most Cats.
    Must have slipped his mind.

  134. areff

    The longer I’m away from the US, the more I miss the place. The Fourth Amendment:

    “[t]he right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”

    We could do worse than adopt the First and Fourth. But, hey, this is Australia, where we do what we’re told, even if it means some rubber-gloved invert feeling up your 16-year-old daughter on the recommendation of a dog.

  135. areff

    whoops, wrong thread. Apologies.

  136. areff

    It’s different when the state assaults a women, or a women assaults a male civilian.

    Because only monsters don’t want to live in a society with low levels of regulation and protection from bad things that might happen.

  137. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    So – Figaro eventually got married. An extravagant follie, a delightful comedy, which still managed to elicit some good laughs from the celebratory mood found in the audience even today. The late seventeenth century depicted through Mozart’s eighteenth century eyes and music, but the costuming was gorgeous and on point for the beruffed period in which the libretto was set, following on from the play ‘The Barber of Seville’, which also featured Figaro and the same characters. This performance of ‘The Marriage of Figaro’ is a traditional and delightful production, full of verve and energy and fun, delightful in the presentation of various asides to the audience and multiple dialogue trilling matches with as many as four coterminous participants warbling their POV. As an opera it was, and still is, a piece of criticism of aristocratic power and authority, with the plot centering around a Count who has been persuaded to abolish the old Droit du Seigneur, the right to bed the bride of any male underling on her wedding night, but who now wants to bed Figaro’s wife very much indeed. Love becomes the hero of the day, and all of course turns out well for all the cast as the multi-participant plot weaves around the various ruses and disguises of a range of very believable characters. The plot thus reminds of any French farce of recent years, and all of those re-runs of ‘Frazier’ that I’ve been watching again recently. But the music is something else again. You will break your heart at those sublime arias about all the pain of love and loss and the joy of living and loving. I particularly liked the character of the very young and callow Cherubino, an adolescent male in the usual throes of hormonal turmoil, mooning after female skirts wherever and whenever and having very little clue as to what was happening to him. Ever ’twas thus.

    I’d never seen this opera performed before and thank goodness nothing was done to ‘update’ it in costume or sentiment. It was de-lightful, de-licious and de-ovely just as it was. Some well-sung performances too.

  138. Bruce of Newcastle

    They scored 438587, (3.19% of the total vote)

    Weirdly the data I see says PHON received 788,203 (5.40% of the total vote).
    That doesn’t count the AC, PHP, SFF, LD, CD and several others on the right.

  139. Arky

    I have e-mailed Sinclair asking him to either put me in permanent moderation OR ask Iampeter to modify his posting habits.
    Should Sinclair decide I am the bigger thread derailer, I will cop it.
    If I don’t see you all again, it has been great.

  140. Arky

    Admittedly, a lot of what I post is shit, but I am not deliberately trying to screw things up.

  141. struth

    5906804 voters supported the Coalition.
    6235033 supported Labor and/or the Greens.

    Over 14 million people voted , troll, who did the rest vote for?
    77 seats to the coalition, with the left in the sixties.
    Due to preferences and minors, and the Greens hardly registering, we can safely take the fact that the majority of Australians hate what you support, to the bank.
    Remembering the panic amongst the Liberal party who knew they had gone too far left for their base and kicked the Traitor Turnbull to the gutter in panic?
    Why was that?

  142. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Sorry, off the cuff writing so many ‘delightfuls’ in that review that I apologise for them now.
    It could do with a few paragraph breaks too.
    Should re-read what I write before I press submit not after I do so. 🙂

  143. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Mater
    #3192250, posted on October 24, 2019 at 9:12 am

    1735099
    #3192181, posted on October 24, 2019 at 7:48 am

    The Benefits that accrued from service in South Vietnam were:
    a. Medal entitlement
    b. The war Services Home Scheme
    c. repatriation benefits
    d. Resettlement Benefits for ARA and NS Personnel
    e. Returned Services League Benefits.

    The only one of these benefits I used was the Repatriation benefit which gave me one year’s full time at U of Q on the equivalent of the basic wage.

    OK, Bob. Let’s cut through the pedantry. Did you use the Defence Service Home Loan Scheme?

    Good question from Mater, upthread.

  144. notafan

    Ditto struth

    it wasn’t on the curriculum

    the was a form six history subject on conscription nut that was about ww1-tit might have been motivated by Vietnam but Vietnam was never discussed

  145. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Don’t go Arky. I haven’t seen the Iampeter comments that have upset you, but in general he is an ill-informed, under-analytic and over-confident goal post shifter in what he says, so just ignore him.

    Your observations and input here are worth so much more than his nuisance commenting is.

  146. Knuckle Dragger

    Lizzie,

    I didn’t realise you were a fan of ‘The Heights’.

  147. John Constantine

    These same safety studies, however, contain caveats that the presence of red light cameras could result in more rear-end collisions. Opponents, like Stickland and Senate sponsor Bob Hall, R-Edgewood, say this shows the cameras don’t improve public safety, adding they believe they’re unconstitutional.

    “Red light cameras violate the right to due process,” Hall said during debate on the bill in the Texas Senate, “by creating a presumption that the registered owner of the car committed a violation.”

    No vikpol ethics committee has ever asked about an increase in rear end collisions at camera intersections.

    For a billion dollars a year in subsidies, their abc runs dead on the issue.

    https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2019/06/03/gov-greg-abbott-signs-red-light-camera-ban-into-law/

    Traffic robot cameras take your licence, then number plate robot cameras take your car.

    I have always loved Skynet.

  148. struth

    Or, to be more accurate, given that most of what you advocate here resembles extreme One Nation rhetoric, you’re part of a very small Right wing cohort.

    You keep telling yourself that, it would be bloody scary for you if you found you’d bent over for the wrong crowd, wouldn’t it?

    In A western country, a commo like you may make a lot of noise, but you are a very small minority.

    The sheeple like the larger flocks for safety.
    You fucked up there didn’t you?

  149. struth

    Arky, use the scroll wheel.
    Iampoyda only embarrasses himself.

  150. 16.86% of the populace did not vote for the ALP/LNP/GRN uniparty in the Senate in 2019.

    The turnout was 92.48%

    There was 3.81 blank or invalid votes.

    The Greens got 10.19% of the vote; ALP 28.79%.

    The idea that the majority of Australians support the Green’s agenda (let alone that there is a clear cut majority of electors of any kind anymore) is simply false.

    The total support for the unipardee anyway if you consider informal votes and turnout is less than 70%, and they have a MASSIVE incumbency advantage, plus the rigged voting laws that the bastard Greens and prick Cormann stitched us up with.

  151. notafan

    Mall rents are a killer

    my hairdresser pays upwards of $70,000 -she could pay less than half in a strip centre and probably lose zero clients

    someone else was telling me the lotto agent in a bad spot in a very outer suburb was paying $2000 a month in a mall

    they must take part of the turnover too

    makes it very difficult for retailers

  152. whirrwhirr

    struth
    #3192295, posted on October 24, 2019 at 9:58 am

    You should go into politics
    Admit it, you had a bit to do with being a greenie in ya yoof and this reality gets you all butt hurt!

    Parliamentary politics is for the compromised. I did get an offer to run for the Greens about 15 years ago but rejected it straight away. I only voted for them once and that was only because a friend was running for the senate. I was quite happy to accept their money though for direct action campaigns/blockades that I was involved with. Still am doing my greenie bit as a not so yoof, but less climbing and running from cops these days.

    Where does his theories differ to socialists today?
    Just another dyed in the wool old socialist.

    Who are these socialists that you are talking about? Surely not the statists in parliament?

  153. Mater

    Zulu,
    He knows I know the answer, and he knows his claim rests on pedantry.

    1735099
    #2965421, posted on March 21, 2019 at 7:20 am

    This is intriguing. Ol’ mate goes on and on about it. He must have missed out on such a loan at some point and is still bitter.
    The war service loan scheme these day, has been mugged by the realities of the real estate market. You won’t get far on $25000. I have bought and sold five properties in my lifetime, and the $25000 (which I paid back after selling our first one) was a drop in the bucket.

  154. Nearly one third of us don’t want to be governed by a cabal of a cucked conservative pardee, a worker’s pardee far removed from the working class and a pardee of Marxists, crazy cat laydees and deep green lunatics.

    Secession is and ought to be a ‘uman right.

  155. struth

    it wasn’t on the curriculum

    And as pointed out above, Numbers saying it was proves he thinks teachers are uninformed dumb bums that will teach anything they are told to teach, unquestioning.
    Talk about foot in mouth disease this morning.
    What a joke.
    Time out.

  156. notafan

    no that was $2000 a week for the lotto agent

  157. struth

    Admit it, you had a bit to do with being a greenie in ya yoof and this reality gets you all butt hurt!

    Parliamentary politics is for the compromised. I did get an offer to run for the Greens about 15 years ago but rejected it straight away. I only voted for them once and that was only because a friend was running for the senate. I was quite happy to accept their money though for direct action campaigns/blockades that I was involved with. Still am doing my greenie bit as a not so yoof, but less climbing and running from cops these days.

    I’d say, I’m bloody quick at picking them, but it is rather easy.

    Bye.

  158. Infidel Tiger

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    The Never Trumper Republicans, though on respirators with not many left, are in certain ways worse and more dangerous for our Country than the Do Nothing Democrats. Watch out for them, they are human scum!
    1:48 AM · Oct 24, 2019·Twitter for iPhone

    How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.

  159. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘direct action campaigns/blockades’

    Yes, yes, I remember them well.

    Oh hang on. No I don’t.

  160. notafan

    Bobblewang really is a frightful liar

  161. Black Ball

    Good morning all.
    Yes John Constantine, outside my place of work the highway patrol unit set up a couple of cameras. Were quite busy too. Although VicRoads units have been extremely busy catching up with trucks at the weighbridge, will be stretched further once grain season begins.
    Another item caught my eye in today’s Hun. Warney picking his Test XI. Opening up with Warner and Khawaja. Yes you read that correctly.

  162. John Constantine

    Once OBOR loanshark conditions hand viktoria to the chicoms [ imagine signing up to a massive loanshark agreement with a Tyrant that can at any time crash the Ponxi apartment scheme your economy relies on] then electricity use will be rationed so chicom projects that pay back OBOR will get baseload power, the proles equally and fairly share the rest, when available.

    If poor australian proles get to provide the bespoke service of sustainably low-carbon cleaning chicom wool by beating it between rocks on the banks of the yarra, this is deserved payback for racism and earning your daily rations.

    Comrades.

  163. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Lizzie,
    I didn’t realise you were a fan of ‘The Heights’.

    I am a fan of many things, KD, but you’ll have to elucidate or tweak my memory re ‘The Heights’.

  164. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Still am doing my greenie bit as a not so yoof,

    OMG, one of the drab and bearded cardiganed ones.

    Shame on you, misleading the young and playing at some sort of petrified Peter Pan with Placards in your dithering old age on the last of your withering withers. There is nothing worse than a sleazy old greenie, reliving his vital youth, being carried away by two young policewomen taking care with his brittle bones.

  165. Stimpson J. Cat

    A team of experts working on Google’s Sycamore machine said their quantum system had executed a calculation in 200 seconds that would have taken a classic computer 10,000 years to complete.

    Let me guess.
    The answer was 42.
    Jesus Christ.

  166. Knuckle Dragger

    BB – couple of things:

    1. Traffic cops have (apparently) a deserved reputation for driving at light speed in the opposite direction from any inkling of a normal punter requiring any form of assistance, despite being equipped to take on a Russian armoured division; and

    2. Warney’s obviously back on the diet pills.

    KD’s top/middle order:

    Harris
    Bancroft
    Pucovski
    Smith
    La-boo-shag-neee
    Wade
    Paine (soon to be replaced by Carey)

  167. Knuckle Dragger

    The Heights, Lizzie.

    It’s a show on the ABC, and said to have all the drama, romance etc etc that you mention above.

    Desky’s a big fan.

  168. Des Deskperson

    ‘ but you’ll have to elucidate or tweak my memory re ‘The Heights’.’

    a ‘gritty’ ABC ‘Aussie’ drams set in a public housing tower block in Perth.

    It is/was sort of the paradigm of ABC drama – cliched plot, cardboard characters, clumsy dialogue.all centred around a wonderful Indigenous family, a devout and hard-working M-lim clan, a single mum doctor and her disabled but feisty daughter and an a supercilious white private school boy who nastily pops the gimp’s cherry.

    Meant to be edgy, working class and brave. In fact, safe, stodgy, earnest and inauthentic.

  169. calli

    Arky, One Amp boasted to me that Sinclair rarely enforces his thread derailment rule. He knows what he’s doing.

  170. Stimpson J. Cat

    I have e-mailed Sinclair asking him to either put me in permanent moderation OR ask Iampeter to modify his posting habits.
    Should Sinclair decide I am the bigger thread derailer, I will cop it.
    If I don’t see you all again, it has been great.

    Stop this self-indulgent whining.
    As the sole voice of reason, and Mental Medic on this, Australia’s leading Vietnam War Blog, I’ll tell you when you need leave or need a court martial.
    You, like many Catallaxy Thread Veterans are merely suffering from fatigue and PTSD.
    Thank you for your service.
    Take a break, let your mouse hand heal from the wounds of war, finish your car, and come back refreshed.

    Dr Stimpys Orders.

  171. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Speed cameras. You just have to set aside a certain amount yearly as extra taxation due to those.

    I’ve just been pinged twice within two months on the same camera, that one where you come off the William Street underpass and onto New South Head Road. When the way is clear there, as it often is not, and your mind is elsewhere, your auto response is to speed up a little to catch the green light trail you can see up ahead. A little move up from 60 to get those, and you’re done. First time (yes, I was hurrying home to lunch which Hairy had ready) I was in the 20k over the limit, this late time only 10k over. Perfectly safe. No other traffic at all. Bang, done. Points mounting up, but not at the perilous 12 yet.

    Hairy copped his three weeks ago, with a red light camera on a turn, held up by the idiot in front as both went through on the orange. Pet hate of mine, and I hope NO Cats do it, is people who dawdle along in a stream of traffic leaving two or three cars distance between them and the one in front. They make the orange on the traffic lights and hold up people like me fuming behind them. Too many of them alter the traffic flow quite substantially at busy times, and such inconsiderate driving should be fined, not commended as ‘leaving plenty of space in front of you’ etc. In very slow traffic lines it is not hard to pull up short if you have to, without causing any problems at all. Selfish, it is, selfish, I tells ya.

  172. C.L.

    Re the 39 lorry dead in Essex, this:

    “The best thing we can do in memory of those victims is to find the perpetrators and bring them to justice.”

    However, they were …

    38 adults and one teenager

    So 38 adults decided to enter that freezer truck container to sneak into Britain.
    That doesn’t mean those doing the transpo are not monstrous criminals. Clearly, they are. But I’m not sure they can accurately be described as “perpetrators” vis-a-vis innocent “victims.”
    Sounds to me like they lost track of the container or had already been paid and didn’t care or were content to protect themselves by not speaking up when their enterprise went pear-shaped.
    Truly evil people.

  173. jo

    Dr Faustus
    #3192208, posted on October 24, 2019 at 8:27 am

    This is exactly the sort of shit that makes me even more determined to buy a Mini Moke.
    And have someone (illegally, naturally) wind the gears out and supercharge it.

    The beauty of the A series engine is that you can massively boost the power output by simple modifications. This is the bible – that guides you from 40HP to 150HP+.

    The downside is any form of prang in a Moke leaves you surrounded by fragments of metal with an engine in your lap.

    Had a workmate with a supercharged moke, 170 kph uphill, downhill, along the flat and around lots of corners.

  174. bespoke

    I have e-mailed Sinclair asking him to either put me in permanent moderation OR ask Iampeter to modify his posting habits.
    Should Sinclair decide I am the bigger thread derailer, I will cop it.
    If I don’t see you all again, it has been great.

    FFS! Arky. Do you have no control over your self?

  175. calli

    Sinc’s circus, Sinc’s monkey. I can think of a couple of previously banned commenters who fit the persona.

    Ignore the commenter, engage the commenter. Whatever suits you.

    Just don’t commit seppuku. It’s unhygenic.

  176. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘One Amp’

    Ha!

  177. Knuckle Dragger

    The only reason Paine hasn’t been punted in favour of Carey (a far superior batsman) is that he’s the best keeper to spin in the country.

    And the captain.

    Two reasons.

    No-one expects the Spanish Inquisition.

  178. Black Ball

    One tactic plod used was to have his lights on stationary to see if drivers observed the 40 km/h limit. Must have got the memo from Premier Andrews to lift revenue in light of Fines Victoria’s troubles. But we heard Ashton the other day he is the right man for the job and isn’t going anywhere. Fun times.

  179. Diogenes

    his business of renaming in the Indigene style is not without peril.

    We have a programme that supposedly translates to “Learning Tree”. I am informed by someone who should know, that the translation is actually “Leaning Tree”.

    When we lived in Stanthorpe I remember a controversy going on in Warwick, when a new subdivision was getting “indigenous names” streets. Only problem was that as the developer was Vic based, all the words were in whatever passes for a language there, rather than the local language – oops!

  180. bespoke

    Sinc would have to get that goitre cut off if he wanted to get rid of Imp. Not happening!!

  181. Dr Faustus

    In Don’t Believe Your Lyin’ Eyes news: University Experts tell us that renewable energy is cheap and getting cheaper and costs next to nothing to build out:

    Australia’s carbon emissions set to drop: ANU experts

    Professor Andrew Blakers said emissions would drop on the back of Australia’s world-leading deployment of solar and wind energy, which is 10 times faster per capita than the world average.

    “Solar and wind energy offers the cheapest way to make deep cuts in emissions because of their low and continually falling cost.

    Always providing there is a continuous stream of OPM to prop up the amazing continual cheapness. And if the Government fails to pony up – well, we will know exactly who to blame for those terrible carbins:

    “Federal and state governments can ensure that emissions continue to fall on the back of renewable energy by enabling adequate electricity transmission and energy storage.

    “If the renewable energy pipeline is stopped or slowed down because of insufficient transmission and storage, then emissions may rise again from 2022.”

    World-leading deployment.
    The science is settled.

  182. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Meant to be edgy, working class and brave. In fact, safe, stodgy, earnest and inauthentic.

    Thanks, Des Deskie. I never watch the ABC these days, so the joys of their offerings elude me.

    KD, I fail to see how ‘The Heights’ relates to a Mozart Opera. Perhaps that’s just me though.

    Or even to ‘Frazier’ if that is what you mean, for ‘Frazier’ is a very tightly and sharply scripted series relying heavily on farce for its comedy. We’ve found it fun recently to revisit the 90’s in that show about a liberal pair of aspirant brothers and their everyman old ex-cop dad in Seattle to see how far the politically correct TV of today has fallen. Characters stood for themselves in those days, rather than as representatives of ‘diversity’, and themes lampooned most things happily far away from ‘wokedom’.

  183. Diogenes

    makes it very difficult for retailers

    Mrs D enquired about getting a pop up stall in our local mall, they wanted 1K a week + 5% of turnover.

  184. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Plea to Sinc for Arky. He can’t be turned out without (first) completing the Model A!

  185. Roger

    “If the renewable energy pipeline is stopped or slowed down because of insufficient transmission and storage, then emissions may rise again from 2022.”

    So who pays for all this necessary new hardware that will miraculously deliver cheap electrickery and save the planet?

  186. jo

    TE, you forgot the bend over so I can have my way with you.

  187. Old School Conservative

    A young couple I know wanted to get into a Westfield complex with a fast food franchise.
    Westfield played eager, offering inducements like “we will pay for 3 of the 4 internal walls to be painted”.
    The reality was that a boxed-in pipe counted as the 3 walls.
    That business never got off the ground.

  188. Roger

    Mrs D enquired about getting a pop up stall in our local mall, they wanted 1K a week + 5% of turnover.

    Modern serfdom!

  189. Rococo Liberal

    ”goal post shifter”

    Lizzie, that sounds like a phrase that Barry Humpries coined to describe homosexuals

  190. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘KD, I fail to see how’

    Whoosh. Not unkindly, but ‘whoosh’ nonetheless.

  191. Top Ender

    Letter of the Day in the Oz:

    On Folau’s side
    Michael J.

    I have laboriously counted and read all comments (“Cheika is stuck with enemy Castle in fight against Folau”, 23/10). More than 92 per cent are on Israel Folau’s side. Everyone wants Raelene Castle and Cameron Clyde gone. More than 67 per cent do not think Folau’s posting was homophobic, and 86 per cent believe Castle has damaged rugby union. Nearly all commentators consider their opinion to be correct, but none identified themselves as legally qualified.

    I did not count them, but overall the majority appear to believe Folau has the right to say what he thinks and few are bothered by it.

  192. whirrwhirr

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
    #3192351, posted on October 24, 2019 at 10:47 am

    OMG, one of the drab and bearded cardiganed ones.

    Shame on you, misleading the young and playing at some sort of petrified Peter Pan with Placards in your dithering old age on the last of your withering withers. There is nothing worse than a sleazy old greenie, reliving his vital youth, being carried away by two young policewomen taking care with his brittle bones.

    I do like your use of alliteration Lizzie, but I have never held a placard in my life. A pointless vanity exercise. Changes squat. As is much of what counts as direct action by the likes of Extinction Rebellion. If you are going to get arrested make it count for something. Go to the heart of the beast. Make it count, hold up real operations, cost the buggers some money. In my day (of 10 years ago) we took pride in seeing how long we could stay locked on!

    Still it does my heart some good working with some wiser youth on the real front lines. My 40 yo brittle bones can still weld their lock-ons, cook their meals, sing them songs and advocate on their behalves to the cops. Never did get arrested, or carried away by a woman before, police protocol wouldn’t allow it.

  193. C.L.

    Wow. These are the people who got rid of Folau because he was allegedly divisive and intolerant:

    Revealed: Cheika and Castle in heated clash at Tokyo embassy.

    It sounds, literally, like they almost came to blows.

  194. Rex Mango

    Might be opportune moment to mention that 77 years ago today, the Australian 9th Division (all volunteers by the way) were attacking at Alamein and crucially about the only Allied unit to take and hold ground and from whose breakthrough, Montgomery relied upon to enable the first serious defeat of German land forces in WW2. Ahead of commie victory at Stalingrad by months. From memory 9 Division had 600 killed over two nights, 100 more than Australia lost in 10 years involvement during another more recent war.

  195. Stimpson J. Cat

    I really don’t understand why you are all suprised about all this Rugby Union drama.
    Follow a Gay sport, have to put up with Gay shenanigans.
    It’s like being suprised when a team of AFL Needle Jockeys like Essendon hire a Chemist as a Coach.

  196. Top Ender

    9 Division had 600 killed over two nights

    Good point Rex.

    Funny how Aussies don’t remember some war episodes.

    Most Australians can’t name anything near the number of people who died on board HMAS Sydney in its battle with the Kormoran.

    645.

    More than the entire Vietnam War.

  197. Bruce of Newcastle

    Mall rents are a killer

    Nota – You nail the issue on the head!

    The internetty thingy lets businesses set up without rental costs in malls (I did this for a while, it was yummy). But malls aren’t lowering the rents to the market-clearing level. In my local small suburban shopping centre there are now two empty shops – the butchers and the newsagent. No sign anyone wants the space and the butcher who went bankrupt was one of a line of several who did so. Ergo the rent is too high for the ROI.

    Lots of city centres have vacant shops. There must be a rental shakeup soon, as the reality of the internet bites the landlords.

  198. struth

    Yep, and when the News broke in England of the first defeat of the Nazis in a WW2 battle, the Cheers went up in the cinemas and news stands around England, thank god for the Australians, three cheers for the Aussies.
    Is that called me “Anzacking”?

  199. Rex Mango

    TE, hmmm… that is the war that we dare don’t speak it’s name.

  200. Those damned Brits were oppressing the yet to be born Viet Minh fanatics from murdering their own countrymen.

  201. Rex Mango

    Bit like the, ahem, Scottish play, for it brings bad luck.

  202. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    ‘KD, I fail to see how’
    Whoosh. Not unkindly, but ‘whoosh’ nonetheless.

    That is my debating and essay marking mode, KD.
    You must bring out the worst in me.
    Try harder to see my good points.
    And I don’t meant just my PT’s. 🙂

  203. Top Ender

    The Herald’s online poll is continuing to produce the WRONG RESULT!

    Should the Yarra River be renamed to Birrarung River?
    Yes 12%
    No 88%

    Send out VikPol. Arrest the dissenters. Off to the Gulags!

  204. Sinclair Davidson

    Took me a couple of seconds to work out what PTs are. Slowing down in my old age.

  205. struth

    and I hope NO Cats do it, is people who dawdle along in a stream of traffic leaving two or three cars distance between them and the one in front. They make the orange on the traffic lights and hold up people like me fuming behind them.

    Oh dear, Lizzie the lead foot.
    How dare they leave a braking gap in front of them.
    While I understand city driving ends up getting to you, a good driver realises your composure is one of the key factors in safe driving.
    Chill……………………..

  206. 8th Dan

    Revealed: Cheika and Castle in heated clash at Tokyo embassy.

    Wow. Golly.

    Meh. He said he was going to quit if the Wannabes bombed out, then got all sooky when he was reminded of that. But, I do feel sorry for him … the coach cannot run the plays on the filed, the players are supposed to do that. Time to get rid of all the non-performers … one is already gone, broke his contract. How long since the Wannabees won the Bledisloe?

    ps. There is much more to Rugby Australia than the non-performing Wannabes.

  207. struth

    Just like the French did in WW1 when the Aussies came in and tuned back the spring offensive.

    Sank god ze Australians are here, they cried, and still celebrate Australian ww1 effort today.
    Anzacking Again.

  208. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Make it count, hold up real operations, cost the buggers some money

    As I said, corrupting the minds of the young you are, WhirrWhirr.

    Your recommendations have been followed to the letter by Extinction Rebellion.
    I would like to see them made to pay for it. And you, as an adviser. Put your house on it.

    Leftie old fools and tools are too frequently encountered IRL, thanks to Gramsci’s hideous legacy that people like you inflict on children, to bother with responding to white anting trolls like you on the internet, doubtless clinging somewhere to some taxpayers’ teat in the blighted educational system. Go and relive your glory salad days elsewhere. Such puerile undergraduate stuff.

  209. John Constantine

    If a chap innocently wanted to find out how many cameras there are operating in viktoria that can be used to enforce regulations, how would you frame the question and where would you direct it?.

    Direct revenue raising traffic speed/red light cameras and numberplate cameras and cameras on tasers and police body worn cameras and dashcams. these add up.

    The new push for State drone cameras and MCG crowd cameras and public safety street cameras add up.

    Council owned public monitoring cameras. Educational facility cameras. Public transport and utility cameras.

    Then the mass numbers of elcheapo chicom cameras in private hands, recording the public spaces.

    When will their andrews government be able to do Skynet and internet of things and access the data feeds of all of these to track dissenters?.

    Just need artificial intelligence good enough to crunch all the data.

  210. Bruce of Newcastle

    I love how RA persecutes a poly Christian then wonders when a side, stuffed full of poly Christians in a code stuffed full of poly Christians, fails to perform. Once the general has brains of tofu it always happens that the troops perform like tofu.

    As Nappy said morale is to materiel at 3:1.

  211. Shy Ted

    Adelaide leads the nation! In drugs found in wastewater. Beating Canberra and Toowoomba. Up your game, numbers.

  212. Rex Mango

    Yarra should be renamed Yangtze, in honour of Chairman Dan signing One Belt, One Road today.

  213. Rex Mango

    Adelaide is an absolute world beater in meth use!

  214. notafan

    Yes BoN

    I am shortly going to return to online only selling

    gave B&M my best shot for way too long

    Going to agree with struth twice in one thread

    I too prefer safe breaking distance when I am driving

  215. bespoke

    Cleaned out shortly after he retired, Shy Ted.

  216. Mother Lode

    Yarra should be renamed Yangtze, in honour of Chairman Dan signing One Belt, One Road today.

    I thought for a moment you wrote Chairman Dang – which has a Chinese sound to it.

    Chairman Dang An Diu?

  217. pete m

    Cheika was right to fume about the scheduling of a night function the day before a big game.

    Absolutely typical of game admin and the embassy staff to think players don’t mind standing around for 3 hours, drinking alcohol, getting to bed around midnight, before the big game the next day.

    And to top it off they went over his head to get players there.

    Useless coach though. Everyone saw that 3-4 years ago ffs.

  218. Rex Mango

    Bit sad that only one American city competed with Adelaide in the World Meth Stormwater Study. Sure Adelaide spanked the Eurotrash, but the competition is not that serious, when Seattle is the only US city to show up.

  219. bespoke

    Peoples driving habits would be a lot different without insurance.

  220. John Constantine

    I was going to make a funny about how the bullbar on my ute makes it less likely for city drivers to cut into my safe braking space. Then i just wondered about how legal my bar is, then wondered if i am still insured while driving a uteload of rams through a city with a bullbar.

    So most state registration bodies including VicRoads skirt this part of ADR 42/04 and instead refer to compliance to Australian Standard AS 4876.1 2002. The long and the short of this requirement is

    The bull-bar shall follow the profile of the vehicle to which it is fitted.
    Fitting the bull-bar must not increase the width of the vehicle (excluding the mirrors).
    Any sharp edges on the bull-bar shall be chamfered or radiused.
    No open-ended frame members are allowed.
    No small components (such as brackets) shall be attached to the front of the bull-bar.

    But the story doesn’t end there. For the last fifteen years or so vehicles have had to comply with ADR 69 and ADR 73 which requires vehicles to protect occupants in a front-on crash. In modern vehicles, compliance with these ADRs can be dependent on a predictable rate of deformation of the front end structure. Also calibrating airbag deployment is a precise thing and how this is affected by a blooming-great metal edifice attached to the front end is very much dependant on how well it is designed and mounted.

    So to maintain compliance with these two ADRs, VicRoads in addition to the Australian Standard Compliance also require (in its own inimitable words) that any bull bar fitted to a vehicle that is subject to ADR 69 and ADR 73 must demonstrate that it;

    Has been certified by the vehicle manufacturer as suitable for that vehicle; or,
    Has been demonstrated by the bull bar manufacturer to not adversely affect the vehicle’s compliance with ADR 69 or ADR 73 or interfere with any critical air bag timing mechanism as the case may be.

    For their part we reckon bull-bar manufacturers need to put their resources into continuously raising the bar (forgive the pun) and improve their designs to be not only compatible with roadworthiness requirements but also to minimise injuries to unprotected road users.
    So should you fit a bull bar or not?

    Ultimately it is the motorist who must make the call, for instance here at the RACV our policy is not to fit them to our fleet vehicles, although occasionally our regionally based contractors do. Have a think about your motivation too, is it just to make your car look tough or do you travel in the country enough that roos are a constant hazard? Another thing to consider is that bull bars are essentially dead weight and do not exactly improve aerodynamics either. Therefore expect to use more fuel if one is fitted. Also since a bull bar is part of the gross vehicle mass the added weight of the bar will also directly reduce the maximum payload your vehicle can legally carry, which could be an issue for utes and vans.

    Sometimes it is too hard to be compliant and you just give up and hope.

    Better take the uhf radio bracket off though.

  221. Shy Ted

    Wait a while. The Yarra river will shortly be named the Yangtze.

  222. Leigh Lowe

    pete m

    #3192438, posted on October 24, 2019 at 12:21 pm

    Cheika was right to fume about the scheduling of a night function the day before a big game.

    I think it was 3-4 days ahead, but the point is valid.
    The coach should be the sole authority to decide the players schedule during the tournament.
    The Vicar is treating the team as a mere vehicle for her corporate/government networking.

  223. Mother Lode

    Headline at the Bee:

    Hillary Clinton Accidentally Posts Condolences For Tulsi Gabbard’s Suicide One Day Early

    Those guys are pretty ruthless.

  224. Mother Lode

    An excerpt from the above.

    This morning, Clinton posted that she felt “great sadness” at hearing that Gabbard had killed herself. In subsequent tweets, she detailed how “tragic” it was that Gabbard had broken her own kneecaps, stuck her feet in concrete, then tossed herself off the docks near a seedy warehouse.

    Could have been written at The Cat.

  225. John Constantine

    Calls to unleash diversity army troops in a war on feral pigs, to thin the herd and lower the pig plague risk.

    Public money spent on hitting feral pigs now, when populations are stressed from drought isn’t that silly.

    Removing water points for ferals would work as area denial.

    Dronestrikes on feral porkers with armed skynet flying robots.

  226. Cardimona

    I’ve got a confession.
    I bought an air rifle to quietly despatch rodents at the farm.
    It’s powered by CO2 stored in cartridges.
    It’s mostly made of plastic.
    Luvvies would have head explosions – CO2 and plastic!!
    I bloody love it and can’t put it down.
    Here’s my issue.
    I really want to torment greentards about my plastic CO2-powered animal killing tool.
    But, sadly, I can’t…
    So I’ll just drop that material here and Cats who don’t own guns can use it.

  227. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘You must bring out the worst in me.’

    If I had a dollar……

  228. John Constantine

    https://www.wideopenspaces.com/aussies-to-use-drones-to-cull-australian-feral-pigs/
    ustralian Federal and state governments plan to put a collective AU $4 million towards eradicating feral pigs this year. Most of that money will be put towards helicopter sharpshooter programs.

    The country’s wildlife agencies plan to use unmanned aerial drones to drop poison baits in areas infested with feral pigs.

    Each of the drones can carry up to seven kilos of poison bait. Using the cover of night, the drones fly out to areas where there are 30 to 40 roaming Australian feral pigs. The drones drop the bait, the hogs munch it up, and by morning they’re dead piggies.

  229. John Constantine

    Using an aqualung tank as a portable pressurised power source for your air rifle is fun, but probably not for public display.

  230. struth

    Still it does my heart some good working with some wiser youth on the real front lines. My 40 yo brittle bones can still weld their lock-ons, tie them up, whip them softly, shave their armpits, wipe their arses, cook their meals, sing them songs and advocate on their behalves to the cops. (don’t take her, she can suck a basketball through a garden hose)Never did get arrested, or carried away by a woman before, police protocol wouldn’t allow it.

  231. whirrwhirr

    You are quite a storyteller Lizzie, I like the style of your purple prose

  232. Geriatric Mayfly

    Should the Yarra River be renamed to Birrarung River?
    Yes 12%
    No 88%

    Without any polling, and by fiat, Steve Crabbe tried this caper with the Grampians. As for his Native mumbo jumbo title – Fail.

  233. C.L.

    Well well …
    Michael Leunig is in trouble with the luvvies.

    Feminist author Clementine Ford said Leunig’s cartoon amounted to “condescending judgement” and labelled him a “f***ing gronk”.

    Ahahahahaha.

  234. mh

    This morning, Clinton posted that she felt “great sadness” at hearing that Gabbard had killed herself. In subsequent tweets, she detailed how “tragic” it was that Gabbard had broken her own kneecaps, stuck her feet in concrete, then tossed herself off the docks near a seedy warehouse.

    Has Snopes fact checked this yet?

  235. struth

    I was told, upon visiting Wilpena pound, we now call it by it’s aboriginal name, Ikara, seeing the white abos have taken over the place.
    I said I have always called it by It’s aboriginal name, Wilpena…………………….

    That’s how thick these people are.

  236. calli

    The guys at the Bee are desperately hoping they do, mh. 😁

  237. Mother Lode

    Feminist author Clementine Ford said Leunig’s cartoon amounted to “condescending judgement” and labelled him a “f***ing gronk”.

    Geez, they can dish out fighting words, but they turn to water, whining about how hard it is without more support blah blah blah.

    All the emptier when the cartoon in question was not about simple negligence but the near umbilical attachment to mobile phones.

  238. whirrwhirr

    not such a fan of your stories though struth, too much caked on hardened BS, that even the finest diamond blade grinder would struggle to cut through. and after your last flight into fetid fantasy- geez man get yourself some help! and stay away from kids

  239. Zyconoclast

    Is there anything Brexit can’t do?

    Yes.
    Actually happen like the voters wanted.

    I am waiting for BloJo to do a dance with African children and then have a coughing fit.

  240. calli

    I was at Wilpena a couple of years ago. They had a manager, not of the local tribe, brought in to make the place at least break even.

    People walking about with their heads up their bums doing nothing and expecting to be paid.

    They had a shuttle bus to take visitors up onto the ridge and into the pound. Except that the driver went walkabout. So the manager, very agitated and apologetic, told us to hop into his top-of-the-line cruiser and he’d take us up. And promptly reversed into our car.

    Never got to see the pound.

  241. struth

    The name ‘Yarra’ is attributed to surveyor John Wedge, who in the ‘Rebecca’ accompanied John Batman on the 1835 party of exploration on behalf of the Launceston-based Port Phillip Association. Wedge asked local aborigines what they called the cascading waters on the lower section of the river. They replied ‘Yarro Yarro’, meaning ‘it flows’. Wedge’s mishearing of the word determined its enduring name.

    So we need to change the aboriginal name, to the aboriginal name made up by modern activists.
    A lot of that going around.

  242. Boambee John

    John Constantine
    #3192224, posted on October 24, 2019 at 8:43 am
    How many infertility clusters occur in ABC offices where a culture of heavily medicated vegan anxious socialism rules?.

    What is the occupational health and safety liability of an organisation that permits infertility clusters to infect the workplace?.

    Unless that is the desired outcome.

    ABC staff dropping out of the gene pool seems a very desirable outcome!

  243. John Constantine

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-10-23/china-s-information-war-on-taiwan-ramps-up-as-election-nears

    The Tyrant has a lot of firepower to bring to bear during elections

    an emblem of what he calls “defensive democracy” against disinformation from China. In his YouTube broadcasts, watched by hundreds of thousands of people, he rails against “brainwashing” by websites linked to China and throws rhetorical punches at pro-Beijing television stations and newspapers that support Taiwan’s unification with the mainland.

    Chen is tapping public anger in a place that ranks No. 1 out of 202 in perceived foreign dissemination of false information, according to a recent study by the V-Dem Institute at Sweden’s University of Gothenburg. “They’re using our strengths, like free speech, as weak points to attack us,” Chen says over expensive tea served in incongruously delicate cups at his studio on the outskirts of Taipei.

    How much support does the Tyrant lend to OBOR dang andrews?.

    The new pig iron bob.

  244. Old School Conservative

    I think it was 3-4 days ahead, but the point is valid.

    Yes.
    Wednesday night before the Sunday pool game v Wales.
    80km trip to get there after a gruelling training session, and late return obviously. Cheika makes sense in this episode.

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