Rosa Parks shooing was a positive for peaceful bus travel

Israel Folau axing a positive for inclusivity, Raelene Castle says.

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95 Responses to Rosa Parks shooing was a positive for peaceful bus travel

  1. Arnost

    Maybe having quotas to include some sheilas (#) in the Wallabies will also be good for inclusivity (##).

    # (I won’t discriminate so trans or any of the other 97 variants OK)
    ## (Let’s face it … it can’t hurt at the moment!)

  2. Roger

    Castle criticised Folau for “putting his religious views before the sport.”

    She’s also labelled parts of the Bible as “hate speech”.

    What exactly does she want…to censor the Bible and compel Christians who play rugby to public silence on the most important element of thir lives?

    Remember when the Prog-Left just wanted pluralism, live and let live? It appears that was only a strategic step in their march towards control of public life.

  3. Caveman

    Get your heads out of each other’s arses and just let the man play sport!
    Will be the cheapest loss RA will ever have.

  4. DaveR

    Raelene so clearly displays why the current clean-out of senior Rugby management has to go a lot, lot further.

  5. Roger

    Raelene so clearly displays why the current clean-out of senior Rugby management has to go a lot, lot further.

    It would take a crisis for that to happen.

    You’d think the Wallabies slipping below Japan in rankings would be it, but it seems not.

    Rugby is a captured sporting code, and it’s not just because of who their sponors are either.

  6. zyconoclast

    Rosa Parks was a communist agitator.

    In fact, according to Professor Robin D.G. Kelley, who has written on the Communist Party’s involvement in the early days of the civil rights movement in Alabama, Parks and her husband were regular attendees at communist meetings in the 1930’s.

    E.D. Nixon, then a leader of the Montgomery chapter of the NAACP, had been waiting for a test case to challenge bus segregation and vowed to help Colvin after her father posted bail. But then came the second-guessing: Colvin’s father mowed lawns; her mother was a maid. Churchgoing people, but they lived in King Hill, the poorest section of Montgomery. The police, who took her to the city hall and then jail, also accused the teenager of spewing curse words, which Colvin denied, saying that in fact the obscenities were leveled at her (The intimidation, the ridicule, she often says now).

    Some blacks believed she was too young, and too dark-skinned to be an effective symbol of injustice for the rest of the nation. Then, as local civil rights leaders continued to debate whether her case was worth contesting, that summer came the news that Colvin was pregnant ” by a married man.

    E.D. Nixon would later explain in an oral history, I had to be sure that I had somebody I could win with. Rosa Parks, for a decade the NAACP secretary who took special interest in Colvin’s case, was morally clean, reliable, nobody had nothing on her.

  7. stackja

    Super Rugby changed Rugby.

    Meanwhile:

    The Shute Shield is a semi-professional rugby union competition in Sydney, New South Wales, Australia. It is the premier grade club tournament in NSW rugby. The Shute Shield is awarded at the end of the Sydney Club Rugby season to the team that wins the Grand Final.

  8. Iampeter

    Israel Folau axing a positive for inclusivity, Raelene Castle says.

    Don’t know about “inclusivity” whatever that means.
    But the freedom to hire and fire as you please is more than just positive, it’s a crucial component of freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of association, property rights and individual rights in general.

    All concepts that do not seem to be even understood, let alone supported here at the Cat, as the Folau saga clearly shows.

  9. Cui Bono

    Just like the morons in the ACT who at the behest of the local Muslim council want males excluded from the major public pool…in pursuit of ‘inclusivity’.

  10. Dr Faustus

    Trouble at ‘Mill:

    Rugby Australia’s legal case against Israel Folau ‘plunged into chaos’

    A falling out between Michael Cheika and Rugby Australia CEO Raelene Castle has thrown the game’s legal case against Israel Folau into disarray.

    According to ‘sources’ amongst the Rugby commentariat: “the broken relationship between former coach, CEO and chairman have now “plunged Rugby Australia’s legal case against Israel Folau into chaos.

    And:

    Former Wallabies Greg Martin and Andrew Slack are among the voices calling for an independent review of both the Wallabies coaching role and the Rugby Australia hierarchy following the World Cup debacle.

    Martin said Rugby Australia should have let Cheika loose earlier and urged for the whole structure around rugby in Australia to be “blown up”.

    “The chairman wasn’t strong enough, the CEO hasn’t been strong enough. We need rugby people in those positions, true rugby people.

    This is certainly true. During the season, I see Qld Premier Grade players, far more impressive than many in the extended Wallabies squad, but who will never play professionally because ‘the process’.

    Instead of selection processes reaching down into the engine-room of the sport, we see journeymen players like James O’Connor recycled in because of past reputations. Efficiency, risk management, consensus: Managerialism at its worst.

    [Disclosure: No relative, or other personal interest.].

  11. John A

    How very Orwellian, to speak of “inclusivity” by excluding the best player in the competition, and then having the coach of the national team resign because they lost.

  12. Bronson

    FMD she’s left a trail of wreckage behind her in her last two appointments. She’s now on track for the trifecta. There’s a case at court now and she’s doing press interview on the subject. How much does RA Australia want to have to pay out? Dumb dumber dumbest!

  13. Bruce of Newcastle

    So Castle admits she persecuted Folau because of his religion?
    I think RA is going to get reamed in court.

  14. dover_beach

    Remember when the Prog-Left just wanted pluralism, live and let live? It appears that was only a strategic step in their march towards control of public life.

    You are over the target, Sir.

  15. Suburban Boy

    Professed commitments to inclusivity notwithstanding, I suspect that no sporting body in Australia will now place its future in the hands of a middle-aged Kiwi goth girl.

  16. PB

    Looking at the character of violent crime on America’s mass transit systems these days, shooing Rosa Parks off the bus was probably the smart thing to do.

  17. Iampeter

    I can’t fathom how totally confused you have to be to think that in Folau vs RA, that Folau is the Rosa Parks equivalent.

    FMD.

  18. Pyrmonter

    @ zycon

    How disgraceful was it that it took the dirty left to mount viable challenges to Jim Crow? The GOP had tried, in earnest until the 1920s (when it could count on the african-american vote in the north) and with decreasing enthusiasm thereafter (it was the GOP that gave the early 60s civil rights legislation majorities, not the Dixiecrats); then, first Strom Thurmond and then Nixon lighted on the ‘Southern strategy’, until the GOP came to look very much like the Democratic Party of 1900.

  19. Ubique

    Given past form, Rugby Australia will probably want to up the ante by appointing a non-white Transgender type as its next CEO.

  20. jupes

    Given past form, RuGby Australia will probably want to up the ante by appointing a non-white Transgender type as its next CEO.

    Why would it change its CEO?

  21. Gregor

    At least Israel Folau can hank God that he isn’t being damned by association with the hapless, hopeless,headless heard that jetted back home this week.
    As for Castle,I won’t go so far as an acquaintance who reckons her to be an All Black plant designed to destroy Australian rugby. What does she have against the Canterbury Bulldogs,for instance; unless they were just a trial run. Nevertheless,if she WAS a fifth-columnist,what would she have done differently?

  22. sabena

    I wonder if Raelene Castle is not an NZ “plant” designed to bring Australian rugby to permanent inferiority.It certainly looks that way so far.

  23. Roger

    You are over the target, Sir.

    Bombs away.

    No surrender!.

  24. I can’t fathom how totally confused you have to be to think that in Folau vs RA, that Folau is the Rosa Parks equivalent.

    Er.. then who is he?
    The Sheriff?

  25. Buccaneer

    is it Iamuppeter or is it Iamsockmuppeter?

  26. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    I don’t trust the courts, they are infested with activist marxist judges

  27. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Bar Beach Swimmer
    #3190212, posted on October 21, 2019 at 8:48 pm
    @Pyrmonter
    Your examples are illegal – animal cruelty is a crime – while Folau’s posts are not.

    Pyrmonter, your thoughts?

  28. Whalehunt Fun

    All concepts that do not seem to be even understood, let alone supported here at the Cat, as the Folau saga clearly shows.

    You have the freedom to hire and fire WITHIN the contract you make with the hiree. We understand that. Rugby management do not. Their excuse is that they are arrogant leftard cretins.

  29. Jannie

    Cheika should have acted to keep the whole Folau saga in the changing rooms, where Pocock and Izzy could have ripped into each other and settled their differences in the old fashioned way and present a united team on the field. Cheika is at fault, but the RA establishment really crueled it by turning it into a PC witch hunt. They turned many die hard rugby supporters into their enemies.

    Whatever, QANTAS is a not going to pay for them forever, the Wallabies are now more of a liability than a public asset. I don’t fly QANTAS if I can avoid them these days, and I will never buy Gillette again. Any company woke enough to support the Wallabies has a broken business model and revenue problems.

    So now RA is a Leftist institution it will soon be asking for government money.

  30. JC

    Imploder

    Using your own argument against you, then you would’ve supported the bus company directing where Parks should sit because of her skin color, and if she refused, Parks would be thrown off the bus.

    That’s where you’re headed with this, you boneheaded numbnut.

    You’re done here.

  31. JC

    One other thing, Imploder. You have a very basic, almost childlike, understanding the concept of freedom and libertarian philosophy. It’s like you just picked a beginner’s booklet and pretend you understand it all.

    Falau had a contract and the provisions of these standard labor contracts contain clauses expressly dealing with morality and behavior issues. The board used those provisions and clauses to fire him and the reasons they did so were expressly anti-religious and anti free speech. He was NOT an employee at will and therefore, your argument about the freedom to hire and fire is problematic seeing there is a contract…. especially as there are implied damages. In other words they are anti freedom – the things you pretend to support. Now fuck off as you’re trolling is absurdly stupid. You are a complete nutball- a zero.

  32. Iampeter

    Imploder

    Using your own argument against you, then you would’ve supported the bus company directing where Parks should sit because of her skin color, and if she refused, Parks would be thrown off the bus.

    Well, that’s not the argument, but that’s closer to what YOU support if you’re supporting Folau over RA.
    In any case, you have no means of understanding the issue at all because you don’t even understand what rights are. You’re trying to discuss politics with no knowledge of fundamentals.

    You have a very basic, almost childlike, understanding the concept of freedom and libertarian philosophy.

    That’s a description of you here, if we’re being generous, not me.
    Not sure why you’d even try taking this line or who you think you’re kidding.

    Falau had a contract and the provisions of these standard labor contracts contain clauses expressly dealing with morality and behavior issues.

    You idiots keep bringing up his contract. Folau has not claimed breach of contract under common law.
    He has dragged RA to Fair Work. Which is like dragging someone to the HRC. You do that when you have NO CASE but your feelings are hurt. And from what I understand, he has no case under FW either. He easily exceeds the income threshold to be able to claim “unfair dismissal” and has only successfully bypassed this because of the political momentum behind him.
    Anyone else would’ve been thrown out of Fair Work if they tried this.
    It wouldn’t have even gone to mediation on a case like this.

    This shouldn’t have to be explained if you had more knowledge than “childlike, understanding the concept of freedom and libertarian philosophy.”

    I can’t believe how no one at The Cat, which is meant to be a right wing blog, has any grasp of this issue. At all.

    You’re all supporting a left wing, SJW maneuver. You’re about to help bring about new HRC-style laws for employment as a result. You are leftists. The only question is whether you’re playing dumb because you don’t have any principles, or just have no clue.

  33. Iampeter

    Just to add, in order to help illustrate how totally backwards you all have this issue:
    If RA had any courage, they would be the ones suing Folau for an actual breach of contract, which has now cost them millions.
    They should also sue him for defamation and incitement.
    They should also sue any Christian lobby group backing him, for defamation and incitement.
    Damages should be easy to prove and such an action would send a strong message in support of actual free speech and religious freedom in this country.

    In my opinion, making bad faith claims of religious persecution, which ends up costing your business millions and has an angry mob raging at you, should have dire financial consequences to anyone pulling a stunt like that.

    Alas, the exact opposite is happening. Free speech and freedom of religion are going to be massively set back as a result of Folau and the legislation to follow. Identity politics and religious discrimination will get much worse because of the danger that employing religious people will now have on your business.

    Good job, you clueless leftards.

  34. Dinky

    Iampeter I think I understand your position.

    I use to read Andrew Bolt’s blog & Andrew would always criticise the Left for taking the side & not the principle. However, I would argue that Andrew & most of his followers were practicing the same hypocrisy but just from their world view. It reflects your individual vs collective position.

    I do wonder how many here would be supporting Falau’s “free speech” if he was a muslim?

  35. struth

    Yawn, it all goes back to the contract signed.
    If you have signed a contact with a totalitarian employer that requires you to keep your mouth shut on things you believe in, 24 / 7, then bigger fool you are for signing it.

    If there was no contract signed, RA should be reemed.
    If there was and it specifically shows Falou broke the contract, when reading the wording, then tough titties to Falou.
    Subject matter irrelevant.

  36. Arky

    Yawn, it all goes back to the contract signed.

    ..
    Using your phone or car GPS, you signed a pretty much open contract allowing those companies to collect data on your location in real time and do whatever they like with it.
    Including a clause saying they can unilaterally alter the contract whenever they like.
    More fool you.
    (only you are a professional driver and need the GPS to do your job, and there are no useable alternatives to the big two tech companies. Fool, or just an ordinary bloke trying to earn a living and stuck with whatever contract they offer?)

  37. Arky

    I wonder how sangfroid Iampeter would be if the wave of social justice warriors infecting boards were requiring libertarian dipshits to shut their pieholes on social media or get fired.
    Don’t worry mate, that’s coming next.

  38. Iampeter

    Struth is on the right track (never thought I’d say that) but there are a lot of issues being conflated.
    First, you claim this is a free speech/religious freedom issue. But if that’s the case then you would support RA’s right to fire Folau, even if they are breaching contract, even if you don’t agree with their reasons, otherwise you don’t support free speech. On the flip side, firing someone, even for unfair reasons, even if doing so breaches a contract, will NEVER amount to violation of someone’s speech or beliefs.
    This is because you don’t have a right to a job.

    Secondly, we then get the pivot to “we support RA’s free speech but we don’t support breaching contracts.”
    Aside from the obvious dishonesty of this argument given the overwhelming support for the religious discrimination laws from these same people, there is no breach of contract in firing someone.
    This is because you don’t have a right to a job so cannot prove damages in this context and so cannot bring suit. Leftist regulations like FWA exist to allow people to get around this, just like we see with the HRC where people don’t have enough to sue for defamation so sue for hurt feelings instead. These lawsuits would quite rightly not be possible if these organisations did not exist.

    Finally, the suggestion that there is any kind of religious persecution is absurd on the face of it. It adds volumes to the dishonesty and sliminess of conservatives playing this round of identity politics like the leftists they are.
    An organisation that employs someone for years, on million dollar contracts, just renewed the contract did everything to avoid firing Folau, is OBVIOUSLY not engaging in discrimination for religious beliefs.
    Not to mention that one of Folau’s demands is to go back to work for them, which is not something you would do if you were being persecuted.

    In other words, whichever way conservatives want to pivot on his issue, they demonstrate their dishonesty, political illiteracy, lack of principles and the fact that they are identity politics playing leftists.

  39. Iampeter

    I wonder how sangfroid Iampeter would be if the wave of social justice warriors infecting boards were requiring libertarian dipshits to shut their pieholes on social media or get fired.
    Don’t worry mate, that’s coming next.

    Um, that’s already happening. You have even called for me to be banned here, as have others. Just like the unaware leftist social justice warriors that you are.

    Goddamn, but your breathtaking stupidity is actually matched by a total lack of self awareness.

    SMH.

  40. Arky

    . You have even called for me to be banned here, as have others.

    ..
    No I have not.
    I asked for the blog owner to put limits on you and wang wrecking threads with your deliberately obfuscating argument style.
    And I’m not your employer, you fool.

  41. Arky

    In general, I don’t respond to your posts, but I have done so now because you used me to make an obviously stupid argument.
    Not that you will concede or address it.
    OK.
    Back to not responding to you directly.

  42. Iampeter

    No I have not.
    I asked for the blog owner to put limits on you and wang wrecking threads with your deliberately obfuscating argument style.

    So, you haven’t asked for me to be banned, but you just want my speech controlled in a way you yourself argue would constitute censorship? Thanks for clarifying. Isn’t splitting hairs, contradicting yourself and having no principles fun!

    Also, just because you are incredibly unintelligent and politically illiterate, doesn’t mean I have a “deliberate obfuscating style.” Your total ignorance is not an argument.

    And I’m not your employer, you fool.

    What does that have to do with anything.
    You really have idea what principles are, do you?
    You cretin.

    I look forward to your next post as you keep stepping on rakes.

  43. Iampeter

    In general, I don’t respond to your posts, but I have done so now because you used me to make an obviously stupid argument.
    Not that you will concede or address it.
    OK.
    Back to not responding to you directly

    This is a description of you, not me. You are a dishonest imbecile.
    Like I already said, your total stupidity is matched only by a complete lack of self awareness.

  44. Arky

    This is a description of you, not me. You are a dishonest imbecile.
    Like I already said, your total stupidity is matched only by a complete lack of self awareness.

    ..
    The “I know you are, but what am I” argument.
    Plus a vile spew of insults.
    You are done here as far as anyone sane is concerned.

  45. Iampeter

    The “I know you are, but what am I” argument.
    Plus a vile spew of insults.
    You are done here as far as anyone sane is concerned.

    Again this is a description of you, not me, as anyone can see by re-reading this thread.
    I’ve made numerous arguments in this thread. Arguments you have no counter to because you are a politically illiterate leftist that has no business on politics blogs.

    You then came in with the usual pretences and insults in post 3192217. Now you’re crying about insults?

    You just can’t stop beclowning yourself, can you?

  46. Arky

    Please Davidson, stop this individual from wrecking multiple threads with his silly non- arguments and post after post of personal abuse.

  47. Arky

    This guy has not posted one comment without an insult included.
    Ever.
    Put some sensible limits on him to make these threads readable for everyone.

  48. Arky

    Devoid of humour or common sense, it is just a drag.
    Do something.

  49. Iampeter

    Oh LOL.

    There are no words. You can’t really be this incapable of self awareness and this dishonest.

  50. Arky

    Thread after thread of regular commenters disagreeing, but making arguments and debating. Sometimes with vigor, sometimes with humour, but of interest.
    Then along comes this individual with his one note drone and insult after insult, and it all gets derailed. As, I suspect, is intended.
    Do something.

  51. Iampeter

    Thread after thread of regular commenters disagreeing, but making arguments and debating.

    Which raving crackpots like you derail because you have no arguments and no clue.

    You can’t be this unaware.

    You are a raving crackpot and insane person. Something should indeed be done.

  52. Iampeter

    Then along comes this individual with his one note drone and insult after insult, and it all gets derailed. As, I suspect, is intended.

    This thread alone is proof of YOU doing this not me.
    You have once again derailed a thread because you have no idea what you’re talking about.

    Insane people like you drive away all the intelligent posters.

  53. Iampeter

    …And we’re done here.

    This thread speaks for itself on all points.
    I won’t be responding to you in other threads and helping you derail them with your raving idiocy.

    You are also clearly a potential legal problem to this blogs owner.

  54. Arky

    Send your details to the blog owner.
    We can meet for lunch and we can see if you are this rude in person.

  55. Arky

    You are also clearly a potential legal problem to this blogs owner.

    ..
    An open invitation to meet is not a legal issue.
    And it stands.
    In my experience having met a number of people from this blog in real life, it changes the dialog when you can see the person.

  56. Arky

    I am going to draw Sinclair Davidson’s attention to this thread and ask him to either put me in permanent moderation, or ask Iampeter to put some limits on his own posting to avoid this deliberate ongoing derailment of threads.
    Let me conclude by assuring there is no physical threat in my words, merely an offer to meet and see if the attitude on display here continues in person.

  57. Including a clause saying they can unilaterally alter the contract whenever they like.
    More fool you.

    1st mobile phone I owned was a pre-paid Telstra job and the contract inside the box said I was bound to the contract because I opened the (plastic shrink wrapped cardboard) box.

    It isn’t a valid claim, but parties will try this shit on.

  58. stevem

    Has nobody heard the expression “Don’t feed the troll”?

  59. bespoke

    Dinky
    #3192196, posted on October 24, 2019 at 8:10 am
    I do wonder how many here would be supporting Falau’s “

    free speech” if he was a muslim?

    Fare enough. I can only be sure if/when it happens but yes I would.

    Do you think the RA would react the same if Falau was a muslim?

    Do you agree with Imp that they should be able to fire him for any reason?

  60. bespoke

    Dinky
    #3192196, posted on October 24, 2019 at 8:10 am
    I do wonder how many here would be supporting Falau’s “free speech” if he was a [email protected]@im?

    Fare enough. I can only be sure when/if it happened but yes I would?

    Do you think the RA would react the same if Falau was a [email protected]@im?

    Do you agree with Imp the they should be able to fire him for any reason?

  61. bespoke

    Arky
    #3192300, posted on October 24, 2019 at 10:05 am
    Let me conclude by assuring there is no physical threat in my words, merely an offer to meet and see if the attitude on display here continues in person.

    I think his mum is happy to have on the internet. Less trips to the doctor.

  62. Iampeter

    Sorry Dinky, I missed your post as the usual sperg derailed the thread.
    But I feel the same way.
    I used to have a lot of support for Andrew Bolt but over time his inconsistencies and lack of principles has become too hard to ignore.
    I also don’t think he has a solid grasp of political concepts. I’ve never really seen him discuss any issues at the level of fundamentals.

  63. Iampeter

    I am going to draw Sinclair Davidson’s attention to this thread and ask him to either put me in permanent moderation, or ask Iampeter to put some limits on his own posting to avoid this deliberate ongoing derailment of threads.
    Let me conclude by assuring there is no physical threat in my words, merely an offer to meet and see if the attitude on display here continues in person.

    Arky, it is you who has derailed this thread.
    It is you who has come in with insults and no arguments.
    Your random post about libertarians getting blocked or something, makes no sense given what is being discussed here, but is a good example of something you yourself are trying to do to me in this very thread. And not for the first time.
    Your attempts to project onto me your own behaviours is laughable.
    Your asking me where I live and telling me “say it to my face, c*nt” is perfectly clear in it’s intent.

    You are ignorant, contradictory, incoherent and dishonest.
    You are also a walking lawsuit just waiting to happen.

    This thread is a perfect example of all this.

    The fact that you and those like you are not already in permanent moderation is why having any serious discussions about politics at the cat is so hard. It’s also why the level here is so low. You unhinged crackpots chase away any intelligent posters.

    The comedy of you trying and failing to make posts without beclowning yourself is pretty good though.

  64. old bloke

    Israel Folau axing a positive for inclusivity, Raelene Castle says.

    Can “inclusivity” be achieved by practising exclusivity?

  65. Arky

    Your asking me where I live and telling me “say it to my face, c*nt” is perfectly clear in it’s intent.

    ..
    There is no intent other than to invite you to meet me and see if you go on with a string of insults in person.
    The offer stands, including to pay for lunch.
    Also, I did not “ask where you live” I asked if you are in Melbourne, as I don’t travel well.
    See? Now you know where I live, and I still know nothing about you other than the fact that you are an anonymous rude individual who won’t back up what they spew online in person.
    I assure you, you are safe with me.

  66. Arky

    And if you don’t believe me there are half a dozen regular posters on here who have met me, including after online disagreements who can vouch for my behaviour.

  67. So has Iampeter EVER given a supposed solution to (any of) all of the problems he sees withour “wrong think”?

    No, he’s an insane democratic socialist who thinks he’s saving the world by pretending to be the world’s most annoying and misguided Objectivist.

  68. Sinclair Davidson

    So. Just another quiet thread at the Cat?

  69. Arky

    You idiots… You are leftists… playing dumb because you don’t have any principles…just have no clue…you clueless leftards…dishonesty, political illiteracy, lack of principles… identity politics playing leftists…Goddamn, but your breathtaking stupidity is actually matched by a total lack of self awareness…So,having no principles…you are incredibly unintelligent and politically illiterate…Your total ignorance…You cretin…You are a dishonest imbecile…your total stupidity is matched only by a complete lack of self awareness.

    ..
    I do not understand why you cannot at least ask this person to modify the volume of insults.
    The above is in this thread alone, but it is normal for that poster.
    And it derails otherwise interesting thread.
    Please do something.

  70. Bronson

    Don’t worry Arky after lunch meds will kick in soon and he’ll nod off until dinner time.

  71. Arky

    If you are content with the volume of insults sprayed at everyone liberally, at least ask this person to vary the content.

  72. struth

    Including a clause saying they can unilaterally alter the contract whenever they like.
    More fool you.

    1st mobile phone I owned was a pre-paid Telstra job and the contract inside the box said I was bound to the contract because I opened the (plastic shrink wrapped cardboard) box.

    It isn’t a valid claim, but parties will try this shit on.

    I had exactly this happen to me.
    Telstra tried to sell me a phone, over the phone.
    I said yes to the phone if, (in those days) a car kit was supplied.
    The phone came, posted out with no car kit.
    Upon contacting them I found it impossible to talk to the section that sold me the phone, couldn’t get service from anyone and as I kept pushing for weeks by this stage, got through to someone who told me exactly that.
    I had signed the contract by opening the box.
    Which I laughed at.
    Ombudsman, the usual dogged stubbornness I am known for eventually got me through to their legal team, who stated calmy on the end of the line, threatening that there wasn’t much I could do about it and if I thought it was a good Idea taking them on, go for it.
    I said I did think it was a good idea.
    After a good couple of months of persisting, I couldn’t believe I ended up having one of their lawyers screaming obscenities down the phone toward me, completely losing his shit.
    Just Fucking try to take us un c..t, were the words amongst others.
    I again stated I would.
    A week later a car kit arrived in the mail and they now record all agreements.
    Opening boxes is signing agreements?
    Fuck off.

    I did not sign for my privacy and whereabouts to be taken from my phone by those from whom I bought it Arky, and without looking at reams of privacy policy , I’m not sure where I stand legally on the issue, but I haven’t signed a contract allowing them to get at my information.
    If you know more about this than me, let us know, we may be able to put in a legal fight.
    I’m not that concerned, I look at equipment websites and music and normal shit, and post here and there.
    And what I say I stand by.

  73. Arky

    I’m not sure where I stand legally on the issue, but I haven’t signed a contract allowing them to get at my information.

    ..
    I think when you click on that “I agree” box, with the link to 80 pages of fine print, that is a contract.
    No one reads them.
    No one.

  74. Arky

    But your phone is constantly pinging off the nearest tower, and so are all the apps on your phone.
    According to Edward Snowden last night, anyway, all that data is stored by companies to on- sell.

  75. calli

    If you are content with the volume of insults sprayed at everyone liberally, at least ask this person to vary the content.

    Fair point. The I am the smartest person evah and youse are all soooo dumb, plus politically impure to boot is a bit tiresome. Then there are the sad old saws about religion endlessly regurgitated.

    Hang on.

    It isn’t…a parody account?

  76. bespoke

    If he ain’t a parody just view his conceptualism as ideas he will never test in real life.

    ProtoMagnusNeotenyLibertarian

  77. Iampeter

    Gotta love when one of the rudest posters at the cat is crying about too many insults being hurled.
    This is the same person that thinks banning people off internet platforms is censorship, while calling for people to be banned off internet platforms.

    This is basically Arky.

  78. struth

    Gotta love when one of the rudest posters at the cat is crying about too many insults being hurled.
    This is the same person that thinks banning people off internet platforms is censorship, while calling for people to be banned off internet platforms.

    Excuse me Fuckhead, but I am by far the rudest cat here, and I think Arky is a gentlemen and a scholar compared to some.
    You, and your bombastic insults towards all and sundry would do me out of the title if it weren’t for my gratuitous use of foul language.
    Cock smoker.

  79. max

    Rosa Parks did not challenge bus law, she was challenging State segregation laws.

    Should we have right to free speech?
    Yes

    where?
    on your private property.

    What if that property is not 100% your and if there are other people living or working there ?
    contract and decency

    what if you are public person and you free speech affecting your company financially?

    well in that case what contract say but in general company should have right to fire and you to sue if you think that this is breach of contract.

  80. Iampeter

    My “bombastic insults” are a response to Arky who started insulting me in this thread as he does in every thread in order to derail it because he has no arguments.

    And I can’t believe you posted what you posted…the lack of self awareness…I mean seriously.

    Anyway, as Mark Twain said: “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”

    I’m done wasting my time in this thread.

  81. bespoke

    Chucks rattle on the floor!!

  82. struth

    And I can’t believe you posted what you posted…the lack of self awareness…I mean seriously.

    FMD!!

    Something about two short planks , springs to mind.

  83. Lee

    I do wonder how many here would be supporting Falau’s “free speech” if he was a muslim?

    Do you seriously believe that he would have been sacked if that were the case?

  84. Bronson

    Takes bat and ball and goes home.

  85. Tim Neilson

    Imploder

    Using your own argument against you, then you would’ve supported the bus company directing where Parks should sit because of her skin color, and if she refused, Parks would be thrown off the bus.

    Well, that’s not the argument, but that’s closer to what YOU support if you’re supporting Folau over RA.

    How can one human being be so 100% wrong about absolutely everything?

    It’s a miracle of stupidity.

    I’m done wasting my time in this thread.

    He’s a total waste of time on every thread. Hopefully he’ll realise that.

  86. Roger

    How can one human being be so 100% wrong about absolutely everything?

    Easy.

    The claims are always the same, it’s just the details that vary according to the thread subject.

  87. struth

    You, and your bombastic insults towards all and sundry would do me out of the title if it weren’t for my gratuitous use of foul language.
    Cock smoker.

    I thought it was humorous , anyway………………………………………..tough audience, when they’re that thick.

  88. egg_

    Iampenis, 8th Dick and Numberwang… all have something in common.

  89. The BigBlueCat

    Sinclair Davidson
    #3192426, posted on October 24, 2019 at 12:04 pm
    So. Just another quiet thread at the Cat?

    Gee, and I missed out on all the fun!

  90. Iampeter

    Just thought I’d check back in and see if any updates.
    Nope, just more insults with no arguments.

    I’m sure Arky is going to be addressing all these posts shortly.

    It’s not like he’s slimy and dishonest, right?

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