Tony Abbott is a treasonous commie

I have been having FAR TOO MUCH fun recently mocking the journalist class for their new found concern over national security laws. While they were playing silly buggers, whack-a-libertarian, and preaching on high to we lessor mortals the parliament passed a whole bunch of illiberal laws.

This story gets better.

Tony Abbott has been asked to register as an agent of foreign ­influence under controversial ­national security laws, for addressing the Conservative Political ­Action Conference in August.

To be clear – this isn’t a case of mistaken identity where the other Tony Abbott was being targeted and the communication went to the wrong person.

No – this is an agency of the Australian government asking a former prime minister of Australia to declare that he is an agent of foreign ­influence. I suppose it is easy to get confused. A conservative in Canberra must be very foreign for them.  Maybe the public service is so out of touch that they haven’t realised the result of the May election and simply rolled out their shake-down-conservatives strategy. (I’m sure that was behind the attempt to deplatform me earlier this year).

The former prime minister ­refused the request, labelling it ­“absurd” and saying “senior officials of the commonwealth have better things to do with their time”.

Apparently not.

My good friend Andrew Cooper has also been targeted.

In the first action of its kind under the foreign-influence laws, the event’s Australian organiser, Andrew Cooper, whose small not-for-profit organisation LibertyWorks co-hosted CPAC in Sydney with the American Conservative Union (ACU), was ordered to hand over documents and threatened with jail time.

Mr Cooper received an ­October 21 letter from the ­Attorney-General’s Department demanding the production of ­documents under the government’s Foreign Influence Transparency Scheme.

Like Mr Abbott, he has refused to comply and challenged the ­department about why it was not ­focused on more pressing “stories of Chinese Communist Party agents influencing university campuses or bankrolling political candidates”.

The first action of its kind. The first thing the public service thinks of doing is to harass the national president of the Liberal Democratic Party, and a former Liberal prime minister?

Now it is one thing to slag off journalists for being asleep while these laws were being passed. But Tony Abbott would have voted for this law. Okay – so what does he say now?

Mr Abbott said it was easy for the bureaucracy to turn “well-­intentioned government policy into something which turns out to be radically different to what their ministers and staff intended”.

Bullshit.

This is a rubbish law.

This legislation has the effect of striping Australians of their rights of citizenship – if you speak at a conference, say, jointly organised by a foreigner and, say, criticise Australian government policy you have to declare yourself to be a foreigner or explain to a bureaucrat why you are not a foreigner.

To be fair, Tony Abbott did tell them off:

In a sharply worded response, sent on Wednesday and obtained by The Weekend Australian, Mr Abbott said: “Neither speech of mine was given ‘on behalf’ of a foreign principal. I spoke for myself, that’s all.

“Any suggestion that I was speaking on behalf of a foreign ­entity is absurd … I decline to register and suggest that you rethink the making of such misplaced and impertinent requests in the future.

“Surely senior officials of the commonwealth have better things to do with their time.”

So here we have a problem. Either Tony Abbott is an agent of foreign-influence under the Act or he is not. If he is then the bureaucracy has the duty to enforce the law. Arrest him. Try him. Send him to jail. Or … this is the public service on a frolic of its own. Christian Porter – the responsible minster –  is pushing the frolic of its own line.

The department’s handling of the Foreign Influence Transparency Scheme angered Mr ­Porter. “I have made it clear to my department that I expect it to demonstrate a focus on the most serious instances of noncompliance,” the Attorney-General said.

“I’m not persuaded this focus has been perfectly demonstrated to date.”

There is a very simple test of this argument – has Mr Porter sacked the bureaucrats who were party to these decisions and letters? If not, why not?

Update: What  wait there is more.

The Weekend Australian unders­tands that Porter was, to put it mildly, incandescent with rage when he learned, after he asked for details, that this was the sole ­instance of the department issuing the draconian section 45(2) notice. And why wouldn’t he be livid? Going after Cooper, and not a real threat to our democracy, makes a mockery of these laws and the ­department.

For reasons of probity, the ­Attorney-General has no power to direct those departmental ­bureaucrats who administer the FITS. But that independence should not be a licence to use wide-­ranging laws that carry serious penalties in highly questionable circumstances.

The government passed laws that allows this sort of thing and has no mechanism in place to control it?  This is laugh-out-loud incompetence. What were our parliamentarians thinking?

Then:

Remember when Labor senator Kristina Keneally insinuated in a silly swipe in late July that conservative politicians who spoke at CPAC would be condoning the views of everyone there? CPAC was trying to mastermind an alt-right takeover, she said. It was ­demented logic but that’s politics — well, Keneally’s kind of politics.

Bizarrely, the department sent letters to Abbott and Cooper within days of her comments, making it hard for these boffins inside ­the Attorney-General’s Department to divorce themselves from the politics of the day.

No. Not bizarre at all. The Liberal government have given the deep state national security powers to harass conservatives and the centre-right and have no mechanism to provide any oversight.

Update II: Outsiders – coverage starts at 7:35 minute mark.

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81 Responses to Tony Abbott is a treasonous commie

  1. stackja

    TA story reminds of GP and Lindy cases. Someone decides and fits it up.

  2. Roger

    There is a very simple test of this argument – has Mr Porter sacked the bureaucrats who were party to these decisions and letters? If not, why not?

    I believe a public servant has to be very, very naughty several times over to get the sack.

  3. Dr Faustus

    The department’s handling of the Foreign Influence Transparency Scheme angered Mr ­Porter. “I have made it clear to my department that I expect it to demonstrate a focus on the most serious instances of noncompliance,” the Attorney-General said.

    It would appear that the Attorney General considers Abbott’s non-compliance less than a ‘most serious instance’ – possibly ‘quite serious’, or even just ‘serious’.

    But still an instance of “non-compliance”, rather than a dreadful fuckup by the department.

  4. C.L.

    This is unbelievable.

    It almost seems like absurdity theatre – like an obvious attempt to sabotage the (stupid) laws.
    On behalf of … ? Well, it would suit China, Labor, anti-CPAC loonies …
    I mean, Tony Abbott was never going to be arrested for non-compliance.
    So we know this was a trolling stunt.
    Those responsible – the public servants – are the agents of influence and should be fired.

  5. A Lurker

    No – this is an agency of the Australian government asking a former prime minister of Australia to declare that he is an agent of foreign ­influence. I suppose it is easy to get confused. A conservative in Canberra must be very foreign for them. Maybe the public service is so out of touch that they haven’t realised the result of the May election and simply rolled out their shake-down-conservatives strategy.

    This, in my opinion is the key point.
    Senior public servants (along with politicians) should be changed as often as dirty nappies.

  6. Tim Neilson

    The department’s handling of the Foreign Influence Transparency Scheme angered Mr ­Porter. “I have made it clear to my department that I expect it to demonstrate a focus on the most serious instances of noncompliance,” the Attorney-General said.

    So he’s not actually denying that Abbott is in breach of the law? He’s just saying it isn’t a “serious” breach?

    This is the way a society goes full totalitarian with a veneer of legalism. Create laws that make everyone guilty, then enforce them selectively and hold the threat of prosecution over everyone else.

    Great work, Photios Party!

  7. C.L.

    I bet the next move will be to prohibit revealing you’ve been asked to register.

  8. Tim Neilson

    Dr Faustus
    #3199846, posted on November 2, 2019 at 12:04 pm

    You beat me to it Dr F – posted while I was still typing.

    Personally I suspect that Abbott is right – speaking on his own behalf at CPAC isn’t in any sense acting on behalf of a foreigner. But the AG seems quite content to regard Abbott as guilty but see no problem in not enforcing the law against him, but only against others. Totalitarianism here we come.

  9. Roger

    Christian Porter is a dim bulb.

  10. Roger

    Have they sent a letter to HM the Queen of Australia yet?

  11. C.L.

    Back in May:
    Sack ‘nutter’ spy chiefs to fix relations with Beijing, Paul Keating urges.

    Former prime minister Paul Keating has launched an extraordinary attack on Australia’s spy chiefs, calling them “nutters” and urging Bill Shorten to sack them to improve relations with China if he wins the election.

    Mr Keating suggested security agency ASIO was running Australia’s foreign policy under the Coalition and predicted a Labor government would “make a huge shift” in Australia’s China strategy by accepting Beijing’s right to express its growing power.

    I’m happy for Keating to be free to say whatever he likes but everybody knows he is literally paid by China.

  12. Tom

    So the Attorney-General thought he could rely on public servants to faithfully implement the wishes of voters and not vindictively pursue the most hated political enemy of the political left (which is supported by 90%+ of the public service).

    Unless Porter sacks the public servants who did this, he’ll be agreeing with the public service agenda that was pursued in his name and against which Australians voted on May 18, 2019.

    Put up or shut up, Porter, you political lightweight. Sack them!

  13. C.L.

    Just had a look at the legislation (here).
    Guess who’s exempt?

    9A Relationship of this Act to certain privileges and immunities

    Parliamentary privilege

    (1) To avoid doubt, this Act does not affect the law relating to the powers, privileges and immunities of any of the following:

    (a) each House of the Parliament;

    (b) the members of each House of the Parliament;

    (c) the committees of each House of the Parliament and joint committees of both Houses of the Parliament.

    Politicians, of course.

  14. Tezza

    For a deputy secretary of any Commonwealth department to sign off such manifestly idiotically targeted letters is real ‘deep state’ behaviour.

    If Porter can’t actually sack her, he should ensure she is never given any future function requiring judgement and a sense of proportion. That would mean her drawing a huge salary for doing nothing until she retires. Porter could at least reduce his department’s budget by the cost of her remuneration, ensuring that the burden of her idiocy is borne by her peers.

  15. Dr Faustus

    The Liberal government have given the deep state national security powers to harass conservatives and the centre-right and have no mechanism to provide any oversight.

    Worse, the deep state has recognised this, grasped these powers, and used them quite deliberately to give the forks to the Government.

    This whole issue will likely vanish from public view within a press cycle, but Australia has quite distinctly moved to a different setting in the social compact.

  16. Iampeter

    No. Not bizarre at all. The Liberal government have given the deep state national security powers to harass conservatives and the centre-right and have no mechanism to provide any oversight.

    So…basically exactly what they did with environmentalist regulations…

  17. Overburdened

    The Australian version of the globalist cabal.

    That this would occur at all is more proof that the battle is pretty much lost and it will get worse from here.

    Another example from the front page of the Oz with Marcia Langton conveniently forgetting the best and worst efforts of the current Government to deal with a social catastrophe of historical record, and also forgetting the tax payer and private dollars given by The Government that have by and large been wasted both organisationally and individually by the recipients, when banging on about a treaty.

    Naturally treaties are between hostile forces reaching an accord, at which point they may start helping each other.

    The Movement doesn’t try to put forward any debate and has now given up on facts.

  18. cohenite

    Worth repeating:

    C.L.

    #3199865, posted on November 2, 2019 at 12:20 pm

    Back in May:
    Sack ‘nutter’ spy chiefs to fix relations with Beijing, Paul Keating urges.

    Former prime minister Paul Keating has launched an extraordinary attack on Australia’s spy chiefs, calling them “nutters” and urging Bill Shorten to sack them to improve relations with China if he wins the election.

    Mr Keating suggested security agency ASIO was running Australia’s foreign policy under the Coalition and predicted a Labor government would “make a huge shift” in Australia’s China strategy by accepting Beijing’s right to express its growing power.

    I’m happy for Keating to be free to say whatever he likes but everybody knows he is literally paid by China.

    I’m happy for every current and ex politician, including keating, bar a few, to drop dead.

  19. candy

    The Morison government has quite an authoritarian streak, as Australians are coming to understand.
    It gives you the creeps, really.

    This frolic re TA is part of PM Morrison ridding himself of the last traces of conservatism so he can proceed.
    Really, you can’t blame the bureaucrats entirely.

  20. You’re spot on!
    …& Porter won’t sack anyone. He’s part of the problem, not part of the solution.
    He’s never shown balls, & he’s shown in spades this week that he’s pretty bluddee clueless about how the world works.

  21. candy

    I mean, Tony Abbott was never going to be arrested for non-compliance.

    I’m not so sure about that.

  22. Tom

    This is laugh-out-loud incompetence. What were our parliamentarians thinking?

    They thought they could lead without having to accept the responsibility of leading and could leave it to a group of unelected bureaucrats who see themselves as the permanent administrative state unaccountable to the voters who pay their salaries.

    Yes, Christian Porter, your department is out of control — as you have admitted. So show some leadership and sack those who thought they could treat you like the junior office boy.

  23. Overburdened

    FMD
    Page 10 now and there’s another pic of Ricky Nixon this time with Diesel Williams, one of the elite, and a shopworn Warwick Capper who wasn’t, although he did break the jaw of one of the best footy players I have been with on a team when the team mate played in a feeder competition back in the day.

    Nixon, who is neither elite or Warwick Capper is in the middle of these blokes with Sherrin in hand and the Port Melbourne footy ground as the backdrop.

    I will now use the word narcissistic to describe what I think of this.

    These blokes are the product of their time and most people who follow footy can remember the lay of the land back in the day.

    The reason why this POS fell of the perch is because being a prick stopped working for him.

  24. Overburdened

    Yikes wrong thread!

    Apologies to all, and I stand by my comment.

  25. Fisky

    Paul Keating is literally an agent of influence for the CCP. He won’t be required to register though.

  26. Overburdened

    Keating should go and talk to Ricky.

  27. Chris M

    Well it makes a nice change from Sinclair anti-Turnbull rants.

  28. Chris M

    Don’t know much about this Portabello person, is he evil or just plain doofus?

  29. Jock

    Just thought I would stir the possum by pointing out to sing that the legislation was a Turnbull thing. And I suppose brandis. Easy to see the point of the legislation. But it was always going to be difficult to legislate.

  30. John64

    If the Libs don’t demand that this deep state bint front Senate Estimates to explain (a) why these letters were sent and (b) why the likes of Paul Keating, Sam Dastiari and Boob Carr amongst others have not been also asked to register as agents of political influence; then they no longer have any fight in them.

    I’d get the very excellent Senator Stoker to fire off the questions; to diffuse the inevitable cries of misogineee.

  31. Whalehunt Fun

    [Love the sentiment but let’s keep it calm. Sinc]

  32. Bruce of Newcastle

    Given their liking for Aldi bags full of Chinese cash maybe the entire Labor Party should register as foreign agents. Starting with Sam Dastardly.

  33. struth

    The liberal party could just stand around shoving hot pokers up each other’s freckle, it would have the same effect.
    They are beyond useless.

  34. Tel

    Let me see … the government of Qatar pays Al Jazeera to bankroll Australian-born journalist Peter Charley who implements a scam against a member of Australian Parliament, Pauline Hanson … would that be foreign influence in Australian government?

    Attorney-General’s Department got right onto this one, didn’t they? Huh … they didn’t?

    No response at all? Nada … gosh!

  35. Whalehunt Fun

    I’m happy for every current and ex politician, including keating, bar a few, to drop dead.

    Without suffering consequences? Without seeing every person they admire or love suffer persecution so severe and unremitting that it drives them insane? Without begging for an end to it and being rejected? No. Not happy for that to happen.

  36. Tel

    Let me see Julia Gillard spent a lot of time hanging around with the Fabian Society.

    Hmmm … can’t be too careful better check … is that organization uniquely Australian? Well, they do have an Australian chapter but as it turns out, the core of the organization is foreign. What’s more their ideology (socialism) was not invented in Australia … Karl Marx is completely foreign to us. How about that … more and more of these retired Prime Ministers turn out to be foreign agents! You can ask 97% of scientists … it’s worse than we thought.

  37. Fair shake of the Sauce bottle

    Christian Porter then made a stern face, shook his fist Basil Fawlty style, howled at moon and stormed off in a huff. Job done. People’s champion!

  38. wayne

    Its time for Ministers including Attorneys General to take back responsibility and be held responsible accordingly. This abrogation of responsibility to public servants has gone too far. Politicians are elected and can be ejected when we don’t like what they do. Not so faceless permanent public servants. We need to insist that politicians do what they are elected to do and that is govern.

    Perhaps this example of bureaucratic overreach which is bringing the abrogation of control to the publics’ notice will be a catalyst for Parliament to stop this trend and reverse the excessive power delegated to the Public sector.

  39. Shy Ted

    Good job we’ve only got the one bad law.

  40. RobK

    So…basically exactly what they did with environmentalist regulations…
    I’m inclined to agree with your sentiments on this Peter, but the process was very different.
    The enviro regs/private property rights fiasco was/is very much a product of being over zealous in signing bits of sovereignty over toUN group think.
    Granted, the effect on individual liberty is similar.
    Give em hell, Sinc.

  41. For heaven’s sake. What’s the problem?

    The government has meta-data, health records, tax and financial information. They are also implementing face recognition which the Department of Homeland Oppression wants to use without warrants (because it might slow down them oppressing the people).

    They also want access to mobile phone finger prints and iris scans and to out law cash.

    This is and will be law. Remember, “conservative” Prime Minister Morrisson says that no-one is above the law. Except of course the laws the politicians carve out for themselves.

    Morning in Australia.

  42. Crossie

    candy
    #3199896, posted on November 2, 2019 at 12:56 pm
    The Morison government has quite an authoritarian streak, as Australians are coming to understand.
    It gives you the creeps, really.

    This frolic re TA is part of PM Morrison ridding himself of the last traces of conservatism so he can proceed.
    Really, you can’t blame the bureaucrats entirely.

    I lay all of this at Morrison’s door, in the words of a long-ago boss silence denotes assent. Whenever something of this magnitude occurs and he says nothing I assume he agrees.

    There is less and less difference between his government and what Shorten would have brought.

  43. egg_

    Sir Humphrey Appleby overreach?

  44. Old School Conservative

    Sir Humphrey Appleby overreach?

    No, egg, because Sir H. was funny.
    This is deeply confronting.
    Morrison and Porter better get serious and fix it.

  45. Tel

    “Morrison get serious” … I see what you did there.

  46. candy

    I lay all of this at Morrison’s door, in the words of a long-ago boss silence denotes assent.

    Well, it can’t be incompetence because an extremely high ranking public servant sending a letter like that to a died in the wool conservative ex-PM would be virtually unbelievable. And even to a Labor ex-PM like Rudd and Gillard – they might be financial menaces but they were not consorting with Russia working as spies.

    No normal person thinks that.

    It’s something mischievous and probably the PM’s office know of it. You know, a kind of joke they had going.

  47. Scott Osmond

    Oh no! Porter might get angry. Until people like this get fired the bureaucrats will continue to do their own thing comfortable in the knowledge that conservatives won’t have the balls to do anything. They can hide behind the figleaf of operating as a independant statutory authority. When dragged before parliament or the senate they think they don’t have to answer questions or lie outright. When caught out they are never punished.

  48. Ian of Brisbane

    GetUp have found themselves the perfect Canberra job.

  49. Dr Fred Lenin

    The government may not be able to sack the person responsible hut they could do the old Soviet trick demote her and transfer her money to CentrelinkBourke NSW as a low grade clerk,it worked well in Russia ,be a lesson to other swampdwellers in the PS too .

  50. The government may not be able to sack the person responsible

    Why would the bureaucracy want to do that? There seems to be some thinking that this was a fault rather than a feature of the legislation. To show the political class who really runs the place.

  51. Dr Faustus

    There seems to be some thinking that this was a fault rather than a feature of the legislation. To show the political class who really runs the place.

    Judging by the targets, one would have to assume that someone in AG has decided, for some reason, to leave a symbolic and very public horse’s head on the Government bed.

    Porter can be as incandescent as all get out: but the message is there.

  52. Colonel Crispin Berka

    >> the government’s Foreign Influence Transparency Scheme.
    Guess who’s exempt?
    Politicians, of course.

    To protect Australia against foreign influence we need to be alert to all agents of foreign influence everywhere except in our house of lawmaking.

    This is a joke, right?
    Right?
    Guys???

  53. John A

    Tom #3199911, posted on November 2, 2019, at 1:14 pm

    Yes, Christian Porter, your department is out of control — as you have admitted. So show some leadership and sack those who thought they could treat you like the junior office boy.

    Begin at the top with your Perm Sec and work your way down the chain of command to the officer who actually did the deed/wrote the letter. That is, follow the line of delegation from the legislation to the operative “who dun it.”

  54. John Stankevicius

    Why don’t the immature pubescent adolescents from the student union try to round up every Catholic in Oz and try to murder them. Try it

  55. mem

    It almost seems like absurdity theatre – like an obvious attempt to sabotage the (stupid) laws.
    On behalf of … ? Well, it would suit China, Labor, anti-CPAC loonies …


    My thoughts exactly.

  56. Twostix

    Candy is right.

    Noway that a pube did this without someone in the liberals knowing about it and promising support.

  57. JC

    Tony Abbott is a treasonous commie

    Well he is as all Liberal are, however he’s not a treasonous commie for the reasons that treasonous commie tax eater suggests.

  58. JC

    I cannot believe a minster does not have the authority to fire a tax eater. This is like hyper deep state.

    The administrative state is parasitical now and has to be destroyed.

  59. Twostix

    This shows that the government really is operationally active in regards to non-leftwing politics.

    As in departments spending time discussing, monitoring, and now taking action against.

    We know there are policy documents where they declared *all* right wing people meaning traditionalists and anti government types to be more dangerous than muzzles and commies.

    This is the second physical manifestation of that in action.

    The first was the low level harrassment of alt right figures like that Blair Cotrell and co. Nobody cared they said, he’s a nazi and I’m not so I’m safe.

    Are you Tony Abbott? Because like Blair Cottrell and co’s harrasment was a message to his aspiring this young alt right zoomer fans, this action against Abbott is a message to people on this board: we dealt with the alt right, we’re expanding what is not ok, you’re next.

  60. struth

    As I said as soon as he became PM, Sco Mo would be worse than Turnbull for this country because Turnbull couldn’t hide his hatred for Australia, Sco Mo can, and many a gullible right winger is giving him a free pass to turn us over to his UN masters.
    There was a reason Malcom would not step down until Morrison replaced him.

    HE HAS DONE NOTHING RIGHT WING AT ALL.
    ANYTHING HE HAS DONE HAS BEEN LEFT WING.

  61. Twostix

    I cannot believe a minster does not have the authority to fire a tax eater. This is like hyper deep state

    It’s a lie.

    If Shorten was PM and Gillard got a letter the person would have been fired in one minute flat with a hurricane of media fury pushing him along.

    This is calculated and there are people in the liberals who okayed it.

  62. Twostix

    Julia Gillard left politics and walked directly into an organisation operated by the Clinton Foundation. Literally a foreign organ of soft power.

    Has she received a letter?

    This has nothing to do with foreign influence, it as about sending a message to the right.

  63. struth

    It’s a lie.

    If Shorten was PM and Gillard got a letter the person would have been fired in one minute flat with a hurricane of media fury pushing him along.

    This is calculated and there are people in the liberals who okayed it.

    Yep.

  64. Percy Popinjay

    The stupid.forking.gliberals have really excelled themselves this time.

    Existing in this country is becoming increasingly fraught.

  65. 2dogs

    Who is the foreign principal?

  66. Kneel

    “GetUp have found themselves the perfect Canberra job.”

    Now THERE’S a foreign agent for yas – GetUp! is a USA based organisation that is partisan political, straight up. I’m sure they just haven’t got to them yet…

  67. dover_beach

    Julia Gillard left politics and walked directly into an organisation operated by the Clinton Foundation. Literally a foreign organ of soft power.

    Has she received a letter?

    Exactly.

  68. Tel

    On this topic of foreign interference … those United Nations fellows, ahhh, not exactly Australian are they?

    Lots of foreign money floating around in the whole United Nations bank accounts … Bloomberg money these days. We would expect that anyone from the UN turning up in Canberra has better be registered. Make it clear who they might be influencing.

    Say wait a moment … someone promised the UN top job to Kevin Rudd at one stage … would that have any influence on the man, do you think? Gosh! Perhaps a promise of future favours might be a teensy tiny bit like a bribe or something. Just sayin!

  69. Tel

    Julia Gillard left politics and walked directly into an organisation operated by the Clinton Foundation. Literally a foreign organ of soft power.

    She went to check where Australia’s money had gone and whether it was possible to fetch some of it back again.

  70. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    She went to check where Australia’s money had gone and whether it was possible to fetch some of it back again.

    but obviously not for herself right? …. right?…………right?

  71. Andre Lewis

    The AG would not sack an SES officer directly but he would certainly be able to call in the Secretary and let him know where his next posting will be if the deputy stays where she is.

  72. Cynic of Ayr

    “For reasons of probity, the ­Attorney-General has no power to direct those departmental ­bureaucrats who administer the FITS. But that independence should not be a licence to use wide-­ranging laws that carry serious penalties in highly questionable circumstances.”
    This has become the big problem.
    Politicians palmed off the decisions to un-elected bureaucrats, with the idea that they could be separated from bad decisions politically, but gave the hand-on-heart statement that it makes the process non-political.
    Fucking bullshit!
    It makes it more political than ever!
    Now, any lefty, communist, man-hating bureaucrat makes these decisions, and there is no penalty! He/She is never sacked. Never elected. Never has to be re-elected.
    Suck it up Porter. You and your mates cut your own balls off.

  73. candy

    If it is a female responsible though normal rules of disciplinary action won’t apply. Being able to call out sexism, a lady can rely on that to keep her job and most excellent income safe.

  74. Indolent

    Sco Mo would be worse than Turnbull for this country because Turnbull couldn’t hide his hatred for Australia, Sco Mo can, and many a gullible right winger is giving him a free pass to turn us over to his UN masters.

    Not Rohan Dean, however. If anyone watched Outsiders, he gave him a serve the like of which you’re seldom likely to see. To the point that my mother was concerned that he would be taken off the show. That’s how far we’ve come with democracy in this country, criticise and expect the knock on the door.

  75. Ms Smith

    C.L.
    #3199869, posted on November 2, 2019 at 12:25 pm
    Guess who’s exempt?
    Politicians, of course.

    How can we the people, let the politicians know that THEY WORK FOR US! OBEY THE CONSTITUTION!

  76. Ms Smith

    struth
    #3200415, posted on November 3, 2019 at 7:51 am
    There was a reason Malcom would not step down until Morrison replaced him.

    Exactly right. We the people cannot even trust politicians who hide behind “being a Christian”.

  77. Old Lefty

    What about the ALP’s participation in the Socialist International? Or the Greens’ links with the international Green movement founded by sixties Marxist loon, and violence and p3d0filia advocate Daniel Cohn-Bendit?

  78. eb

    This is what gives me the creeps when Morrison starts going on about new laws for environmental protesters.
    Once they’re on the books they’re there to terrorize everyone.

  79. Stimpson J. Cat

    No – this is an agency of the Australian government asking a former prime minister of Australia to declare that he is an agent of foreign ­influence.

    To be fair he was trained by Jesuits.
    It’s not inconceivable.
    😁

  80. notafan

    I know another

    the ALP sending people to ‘observe’ the US elections ie assist Democratic candidates

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