Weasel words and dog whistling by ABC Managing Director David Anderson

A Q&A episode has been pulled under instructions from Ita Buttrose because participants advocated advocate violence, arson and extrajudicial killings. Both Mona Eltahawy and Nayuka Gorrie called for unspeakable acts of violence.

But David Anderson was less than forthright in his condemnation of these criminal comments (after all, inviting violence is a crime). Let’s parse what Anderson said

Q&A has always sought to tackle difficult issues and present challenging and thought-provoking content. However, I can understand why some viewers found elements of this episode confronting or offensive.

In other words, Q&A was tackling a difficult issue, and some viewers are too sensitive – it is the viewers not the speakers at fault.

What Anderson should have said would be something like this

The comments by Mona Eltahawy and Nayuka Gorrie on Q&A were unacceptable. Such calls for violence will not be tolerated on the ABC. Eltahawy and Gorrie are no longer welcome on the ABC.

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113 Responses to Weasel words and dog whistling by ABC Managing Director David Anderson

  1. stackja

    ABC is DEF to reality.

  2. Megan

    Will never, ever happen.

  3. the sting

    Perhaps let us start a class action against Fran Kelly , the panelists , the CEO and the Chairman of the ABC for inciting violence via a public broadcaster . A commercial network doing the same would already be off the air .

  4. What would David Anderson have said were the comments made by conservatives? He wouldn’t have to say anything, because you would be hard pressed to find conservatives advocating such action.

  5. struth

    However, I can understand why some viewers found elements of this episode confronting or offensive.

    Of course, they are not you.
    They are not criminals and traitors………………………………….and some of them may not even be a tax parasite either.
    Scum.

  6. John Michelmore

    I agree with the Sting. When I get my unsatisfactory response from my complaint to the ABC , I will go to ACMA. The offence cannot just be pulled. The program Q&A needs to go firstly. Interestingly I have also communicated with the ABCMD about their plans to promote and celebrate for International Men’s Day on the 19th Nov. That was a week ago, guess what no response!! historically there has been BA and yet the other gender gets massive coverage.

  7. candy

    I am not against seeing these women speaking their minds on the ABC.

    Do people really find their views confronting or just think they are ratbags? It’s better to see and hear them on TV as it “brings it home” sort of.
    Don’t be afraid of these weirdos, it’s better to see and listen to them, is my opinion. It’s best to know what is being presented by the ABC too, what they are on about.

  8. Top Ender

    Morrison really needs to take this as a golden opportunity to announce a panel to do an impartial review of the ABC.

    Duration: one month

    Personnel: one working class rep from each state and territory. One scribe. Three media experts to be picked by Morrison – no voting rights.

    Terms of reference: how to establish absolute impartiality in the ABC.

    Recommendations: to be implemented within one month of finalising.

  9. RobK

    Didn’t the abc get all touchy about falling fridges.
    This one is a direct call to murder and harm. It wasn’t metaphorical nor in jest.
    It is not a difficult call to take the required action.

  10. egg_

    However, I can understand why some viewers found elements of this episode confronting or offensive.

    Until they come for you with their pitchforks, Rich Old White Man?
    /Mugabecide

  11. tombell

    Agree with Candy. I want these pieces of sh*t to be upfront and visible. I want everyone to see just how truly awful they are. I want the ABC to be seen as an active accomplice. I just wish I didn’t have to pay for it!

  12. NuThink

    Q&A has always sought to tackle difficult issues and present challenging and thought-provoking content. However, I can understand why some viewers found elements of this episode confronting or offensive.

    So having an all female panel is the way to tackle difficult issues?

    He could have said that the whole episode should have just been taken as a comment.

    How about this for a challenging issue?
    Make only those who watch pay for it. That would knock a few hundred million off their budget.
    User pays.

  13. egg_

    I have also communicated with the ABCMD about their plans to promote and celebrate for International Men’s Day on the 19th Nov.

    They’ll probably go all Rainbow, with trannies aplenty.
    /Diversidee

  14. egg_

    I am not against seeing these women speaking their minds on the ABC.

    You get Mu slim women cry-bullying most nights on The Drum.
    Ali Kadri (Is lamic Council of Queensland) is their go to male Mu slim hater.

  15. Dr Fred Lenin

    Next week in fairness the alpbc is going to have skinhead white racists espousing their hate of coloureds and SJW s on QA , now they cant be any fairer than that ,can they ? . Carry an umbrella ,those flying pigs are messy critters . They might congregate over ultimo and southbank in Vic ,they can add to the crap already there . Isis surviving nembers will be on next ,kelly has lost the plot.

  16. Thank goodness they didn’t suggest using socks!

  17. P

    I have just finished viewing Monday’s episode on iview. The whole 1hr 4mins of it.

  18. thefrollickingmole

    Im awaiting their ABC announcing the panelists involved will never be platformed by their ABC again.

    Non paywalled piece from the Australian is good. The Mocker.
    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/what-we-are-seeing-at-the-drum-is-cultural-cleansing/news-story/c9e6b3d856f68462e1b94f1bab45d103
    RTWT
    Consider, for example, the program’s treatment of the Institute of Public Affairs, a public policy think tank which espouses principles such as limited government, individual autonomy, and freedom of speech — all oppressive and hateful concepts admittedly. Until April last year IPA representatives featured on The Drum at an average of once a month.

    Its prolonged absence from the program is not of the IPA’s doing. As revealed by Sky News host and The Australian Associate Editor Chris Kenny on Monday, its representatives have effectively been blacklisted from The Drum, despite the ABC insisting otherwise.

    This followed an aggressive social media disinformation campaign last year by leftist activists who claimed the show disproportionately featured IPA panellists. As Baird noted last year, one activist estimated the IPA had notched up 50 appearances on the show in the period between January and July in 2018, when the organisation had in fact appeared only three times. “But it is only the IPA that is shouted down when they appear on air,” she wrote last July. “So much so that it has become disproportionate and irrational.”

    Just imagine the reaction if a men’s rights activist was invited on the panel and expressed similar views about feminism. “All fourth wave feminists need to put their hands up and acknowledge their misandry, acknowledge they are entitled harpies who profit from toxic feminism,” he would say. After pulling the plug for a brief period, The Drum would resume with a live shot of said man being hurled off the roof of ABC head office, along with any male who added that he “echoed everything he said”.

  19. I_am_not_a_robot

    … it is the viewers not the speakers at fault …

    An excellent point and as for ‘difficult issues and … challenging and thought-provoking content’ that is b.s. because the audience they invite and that turn up are invariably a claque of leftist puppets there only to clap or boo on cue.

  20. Petros

    Normals on that show in the future should quote these people verbatim. Watch the bullies get enraged and then we can point out the hypocrisy. They wouldn’t care no doubt but it’s worth stirring them up. Great work by Donald Trump Jr on the View btw.

  21. stackja

    In other words, Q&A was tackling a difficult issue, and some viewers are too sensitive – it is the viewers not the speakers at fault.

    ABC viewers are at fault for not demanding better standards. ABC doesn’t face any penalty while commercial stations face economic consequences if they don’t satisfy viewers’ needs.

  22. Colonel Crispin Berka

    Thank goodness the juicy bits have already been copied and commented on by others.
    Alistair Williams’ version on YouTube was pretty good.

  23. Mother Lode

    The comments by Mona Eltahawy and Nayuka Gorrie on Q&A were unacceptable. Such calls for violence will not be tolerated on the ABC. Eltahawy and Gorrie are no longer welcome on the ABC.

    I don’t think Anderson has the authority to issue such a statement or bar people. He is only the Managing Director.

    It is not like he is a talking head or head of catering or such.

  24. JC

    What Anderson should have said would be something like this

    The comments by Mona Eltahawy and Nayuka Gorrie on Q&A were unacceptable. Such calls for violence will not be tolerated on the ABC. Eltahawy and Gorrie are no longer welcome on the ABC.

    How about firing Tractor Kelly, the host along with the producer of the show. They also allowed it.

  25. John64

    The comments by Mona Eltahawy and Nayuka Gorrie on Q&A were unacceptable. Such calls for violence will not be tolerated on the ABC. Eltahawy and Gorrie are no longer welcome on the ABC.

    It isn’t that hard to say when you read it like that. And it should be easy to say if you’re a Managing Director who is actually managing the organisation. And therein lies the main problem at TheirABC – it is an organisation totally captured by it’s staff and no longer able to be run by anyone.

    Let us not forget that Glenn Milne and Piers Akerman were never invited back onto Insiders after making a couple of relatively innocuous remarks that were interpreted as being disrespectful to The Lying Slapper.

  26. FelixKruell

    I believe Alan Jones was condemned by many at the ABC for far less overt calls to ‘violence’. The hypocrisy…

  27. egg_

    “All fourth wave feminists need to put their hands up and acknowledge their misandry, acknowledge they are entitled harpies who profit from toxic feminism”.

    Amen.

  28. candy

    Hiding their show just makes these ratbag women look like heroines.

    They need to be visible and heard. Unless they are inciting violence against one particular man, but it was all white men, and really they sounded like freaks.
    Let the freaks be seen and heard. It’s what you cannot see that you worry about and exaggerate.

  29. Cassie of Sydney

    tombell
    #3205480, posted on November 8, 2019 at 9:27 am
    Agree with Candy. I want these pieces of sh*t to be upfront and visible. I want everyone to see just how truly awful they are. I want the ABC to be seen as an active accomplice. I just wish I didn’t have to pay for it!

    Normally I would agree with you…but for years we have ignored the ABC’s incessant shit….and where has that gotten us? Nowhere. Everyday the Marxist scum at their ABC stick their fingers up to middle and working Australia. And I would argue that those hard left Green Marxist collective shits running the ABC have become arrogant and emboldened by our “tolerance”….and our advocacy of free speech….but the only speech their ABC cares out is “their speech”. Not yours and not mine. And this is just another controversy in a long line of putrid disgusting controversies…..remember the Q&A giving airtime to Zaky Mallah?
    Earlier this year The Dumb played host to a rather putrid and disgusting all Muslim and female panel of well known anti-Semites..one of whom…a leading luminary of GetUp said the following…

    “GetUp director Sara Saleh says Tony Abbott and Scott Morrison have “blood on their hands” flowing from the murder of 50 people in Christchurch last Friday.

    She says Tony Abbott’s “Team Australia” comments have “weaponised racism”, and “just his existence altogether, I’ll say is offensive”.

    She draws a direct link between what Brendon Tarrant is alleged to have done and comments from Morrison, Abbott and Dutton – she says those 3 have “blood on their hands”.

    There was NO pushback from The Dumb’s moderator….nothing….just like there was no pushback from activist germalist Frank Kelly on Monday night.

    And where is Paul Fletcher….as usual with the stupid fucking Liberals when it comes to the culture wars…missing in action.

    Oh and Milo was banned from this country and yet he has never advocated violence…..but I bet you anything that Mona will be back.

  30. Speedbox

    ……I have also communicated with the ABCMD about their plans to promote and celebrate for International Men’s Day on the 19th Nov.

    November 19th is also World Toilet Day as decreed by the UN. I have wondered whether it was coincidental that toilets would be celebrated on the same day as men. We are, especially if white, a receptacle for all the sh*t that people can generate.

  31. egg_

    Let us not forget that Glenn Milne and Piers Akerman were never invited back onto Insiders after making a couple of relatively innocuous remarks that were interpreted as being disrespectful to The Lying Slapper.

    The classical bully’s glass jaw.

  32. Cassie of Sydney

    tombell
    #3205480, posted on November 8, 2019 at 9:27 am

    Agree with Candy. I want these pieces of sh*t to be upfront and visible. I want everyone to see just how truly awful they are. I want the ABC to be seen as an active accomplice. I just wish I didn’t have to pay for it!

    Normally I would agree with you…but for years we have ignored the ABC’s incessant sh*t….and where has that gotten us? Nowhere. Everyday the Marxist scum at their ABC stick their fingers up to middle and working Australia. And I would argue that those hard left Green Marxist collective shits running the ABC have become arrogant and emboldened by our “tolerance”….and our advocacy of free speech….but the only speech their ABC cares out is “their speech”. Certainly not your speech and certainly not mine. And this is just another controversy in a long line of putrid disgusting controversies…..remember the Q&A giving airtime to Zaky Mallah?

    Here’s another example of the ABC’s arrogance….earlier this year The Dumb played host to a rather putrid and disgusting all Muesli and female panel of well known anti-Semites..one of whom…a leading luminary of GetUp said the following…

    “GetUp director Sara Saleh says Tony Abbott and Scott Morrison have “blood on their hands” flowing from the murder of 50 people in Christchurch last Friday.

    She says Tony Abbott’s “Team Australia” comments have “weaponised racism”, and “just his existence altogether, I’ll say is offensive”.

    She draws a direct link between what Brendon Tarrant is alleged to have done and comments from Morrison, Abbott and Dutton – she says those 3 have “blood on their hands”.

    There was NO pushback from The Dumb’s moderator….nothing….just like there was no pushback from activist germalist Frank Kelly on Monday night.

    And where is Paul Fletcher….as usual with the stupid fucking Liberals when it comes to the culture wars…missing in action.

    Oh and Milo was banned from this country and yet he has never advocated violence…..but I bet you anything that Mona will be allowed back in this country…even after directly and explicitly calling for vigilante violence.

  33. Mother Lode

    So having an all female panel is the way to tackle difficult issues?

    Their idea of ‘tackling difficult issues’ is to establish an echo chamber where they can

    Laud fellow travellers
    Denounce thought criminals
    Proclaim their own idea of what other people’s opinions are and in the same breath condemn those opinions as wrong, push their own barrows
    Snicker at crude lampoonings of (absent) ideological foes
    Pose as intellectuals, dialectical and aesthetic doyennes and
    Lay out what must be done by other people

    All without any input from any of the millions of people they would impose their will upon.

    It is a silly program with no real intellectual content – even when they try to deploy logic they only apply it to opinion, not fact – a place where people who have no merit others would pay for are able to preen and pose as movers and shakers.

  34. nb

    The left is always about killing in the end. It is always about terror. It starts out with empathy, a proper liberal sentiment. This transforms into ultra-empathy, with hatred as its flip side. The hatred then runs rampant.
    The red one has a reputation for wanting to kill, so this was known to the program’s organisers. Why would they regret what they already knew they were doing? They will face no consequences.
    Why do we have an organisation paid for by taxpayers that gives a platform to those who would willingly and randomly kill those taxpayers, kill Australians?
    The ABC is a disgrace.

  35. I_am_not_a_robot

    … challenging and thought-provoking content …

    At my age I’m anxious to retain what brain cells remain as long as possible so I avoid the ABC in all its forms.
    I don’t understand why anyone puts themselves through the punishment of watching Q & A, as that Billy Madison YouTube clip suggests, watching Q & A does make you dumber.

  36. egg_

    Ironically. Great News on ABC Comedy had a great skit on TV News Panelists on a recent episode.

  37. Mother Lode

    Their tackling difficult issues would have to be on par with that stupid gabfest of theirs, the festival of dangerous ideas, which is where they debut the latest rubiks-cube recombination of the same boring ideas they have had before and which has been talked about in the NYT for the past month.

    There are dangerous ideas – the ones they will not allow to be raised at the Festival of Dangerous Ideas. Many of them are not even new ideas, but they possess a resilience and a power that the left has never been able to stand against. They dare not even mention them.

    Q&A and the Festival are just mime shows where lefties can pretend to be carrying great weights and walking against the wind.

  38. V

    The funny thing is Q&A now doesn’t even hit the top 20 shows for the day on tv.

    It gets less than 300k views.

  39. Roger

    Mona Eltahawy should not be granted a visa again.

  40. Robbo

    Out of touch with the vast majority of Australians the ABC has long outlived its usefulness. It is now nothing more than a taxpayer funded sheltered workshop for the permanently outraged and unemployable. If the Morrison Government acquired a set of political gonads and did what is best for Australia they would privatise this waste of public money.

  41. Speedbox
    #3205530, posted on November 8, 2019 at 10:18 am

    ……I have also communicated with the ABCMD about their plans to promote and celebrate for International Men’s Day on the 19th Nov.

    November 19th is also World Toilet Day as decreed by the UN. I have wondered whether it was coincidental that toilets would be celebrated on the same day as men. We are, especially if white, a receptacle for all the sh*t that people can generate.

    It is absolutely non-coincidental.

    Weak fathers and desperate beta orbiter men make this shit possible.

    The women who giggle about this are unmarriageable trash.

  42. Roger

    If I have corrcetly interpreted my ABC senior staff flow chart, Anderson was previously the executive responsible for the division that produces…Q&A!

  43. egg_

    I bet you anything that Mona will be allowed back in this country

    Can’t they find woodworm in her broomstick, or something?

  44. bespoke

    Weak fathers and desperate beta orbiter men make this shit possible.

    Substitute “farthers” with “libertarians” Dot would go all tribal “HOW DARE YOU!”

  45. egg_

    Weak fathers and desperate beta orbiter men make this shit possible.

    The harridan-enablers in Their Q&A audience.

  46. Shy Ted

    They should be seen, they should be heard. But they shouldn’t be paid to be seen and heard by a non-commercial entity. Let’s face it, that’s what the ABC does, funnel money to fake lefties who really have no commercial market. Anybody know, for example, what it would cost for personality-free beta males like Phil Coorey to make an appearance on Insiders? Flights, taxis, hotel, meals, away from home expenses, fee. I’ll bet there’s more.
    Anybody see the really funny bit on Monday? The bit where the hirsute Abbarigine said “I’m intelligent, I’m articulate” and was then stuck for words. Shoulda been on Ch22.

  47. egg_

    Let’s face it, that’s what the ABC does, funnel money to fake lefties who really have no commercial market.

    That’s because people like Mona &Co. are ultimately vacuous and just out for themselves and have no merit when put on the spot.

  48. Tintarella di Luna

    Would love to hear Peter Dutton on likes of Mona the Moaner being allowed a visa again to visit Australia given her very public calling on citizens to kill men extra-judicially and for citizens to take violent action against other citizens with whom they disagree. Done on none other than the national broadcaster.

    Paul Fletcher too must concur with what was said on Q & A seeing as he has just left it to the ABC to investigate and made no other comment.

  49. iain russell

    Totally with RobK at #..5475. Institute criminal proceedings against these wannabes.

  50. duncanm

    “Has been pulled”

    with the utmost urgency, no doubt.

    Transcript still here at 12:43pm
    https://www.abc.net.au/qanda/2019-04-11/11646878

  51. classical_hero

    The left has always been violent.

  52. nb

    This is a useful observation by Scott Adams: Scott Adams: How to Escape the Mental Prisons of “Loserthink”, interviewed by Jan Jekielek on American Thought Leaders – The Epoch Times – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtYoXUN0HBk
    As a result of being able to count clicks on stories, the media has changed (24:45 to 26:00):
    ‘The business model of the press has evolved. They are not really in the business of giving you accurate information anymore, because it is much better to get you excited. The news is always exaggerated and the pudits are the worst – they’re paid to make a case, they’re not paid to give you any kind of reality.’ (14:30 to 15:00)
    We need to ask whether the ABC should be following this trajectory, ‘crossing the line into naked advocacy’ (15:36 re media generally). If the ABC retains its trajectory, becoming a platform for naked advocacy, there is quite simply no need for the ABC.
    The ABC already has no value except on occasion to laugh at, and to keep informed of the interests and obsessions of the left. It is pretty easy to find other sources of accurate information, and even easier to find naked advocacy.

  53. egg_

    “Activist” journalist, Fran Kelly, has something to be proud of.

  54. duncanm

    I must admit,

    this is one advantage of not having anyone outside the rabid left on these Q&A panels. The loonies are left to roam free and no-one pulls them up on their statements.

    We get to hear what they really think, rather than weasel words.

  55. egg_

    We need to ask whether the ABC should be following this trajectory, ‘crossing the line into naked advocacy’ (15:36 re media generally). If the ABC retains its trajectory, becoming a platform for naked advocacy, there is quite simply no need for the ABC.

    SBS is even worse, a low budget “Community Channel” for Leftoid ratbaggery.

  56. egg_

    We get to hear what they really think, rather than weasel words.

    Methinks the Q&A Producers set up a panel of rabid Frightbats for that very purpose – to stream their fomenting consciousness on live TV and generate controversy – but not the kind that they had conceived of, obviously, as the rabid inmates went over the top.

  57. Percy Popinjay

    Q&ALPBC is a classic example of why Idiocracy is now considered a documentary.

  58. Cassie of Sydney

    “egg_
    #3205705, posted on November 8, 2019 at 1:04 pm
    SBS is even worse, a low budget “Community Channel” for Leftoid ratbaggery.”

    No.. it is not worse. SBS still broadcasts some quality drama and documentaries.

  59. The BigBlueCat

    I’m not as concerned by the comments made on Q&A as I am by the fact that Fran Kelly didn’t jump straight onto the violence issue. That she didn’t is really the issue – she was the one that should have made a statement that violence for political and social causes cannot be reasonably justified and that if panellists persisted in putting those propositions forward they will be told to remove themselves from the panel. We had already heard enough from them.

    The fact that the moderator (Fran Kelly) didn’t moderate is a big concern. Snowcone (despite him being far left) would have likely done something (or maybe just as likely not), but Fran “I’m an activist” Kelly was always going to go soft on the rhetoric put forward by the culprits on the panel.

    But I do fully expect the culprits never to appear on Q&A again, whatever the occasion. Such vile and repugnant ideas expressed by the panel were not in the public interest, other than showcasing how purile the distasteful the far left can be (in that case, mission accomplished).

    Let’s see if Q&A next week is prefaced with an apology (I doubt it though). And whether Paul Barry / Media Watch will have anything to say.

  60. The BigBlueCat

    As at 1:25pm AEDST it still hasn’t been pulled. Are they ignoring Ita’s directive? If so, I hope it is a career-limiting (destroying?) move.

  61. bespoke

    No.. it is not worse. SBS still broadcasts some quality drama and documentaries.

    That’s about what the public think of the ABC.

    I’v seen something or when I was a kid Iv’ seen something that was good, so it’s not that bad.

  62. The BigBlueCat

    It’s only been pulled from iView as far as I can tell …

  63. egg_

    No.. it is not worse. SBS still broadcasts some quality drama and documentaries.

    You’ve obviously missed the fvckwittery on The Feed and SBS Vice.

  64. Cassie of Sydney

    “The BigBlueCat
    #3205719, posted on November 8, 2019 at 1:20 pm”

    Well said. Frank Kelly just sat there…didn’t moderate and probably thought that the whole thing was a hoot.

  65. John64

    Let’s see if Q&A next week is prefaced with an apology (I doubt it though). And whether Paul Barry / Media Watch will have anything to say.

    I am looking forward to Gerard Henderson’s take on this when MWD is released from the kennel later this afternoon (around gin and tonic time). 😉

  66. The BigBlueCat

    John64
    #3205732, posted on November 8, 2019 at 1:36 pm

    I am looking forward to Gerard Henderson’s take on this when MWD is released from the kennel later this afternoon (around gin and tonic time). 😉

    Me too … he won’t be backward in stepping forward …. I heard his comments with Bolta the other day … with his own megaphone, I think he will be more strident in his words.

  67. egg_

    Let’s see if Q&A next week is prefaced with an apology (I doubt it though). And whether Paul Barry… will have anything to say.

    I’d love to see a Meejawatch parody of Barry frothing at the mouth about Q&A’s ratbags.

  68. areff

    And whether Paul Barry… will have anything to say.

    Doubt it. Barry’s wife is a Q&A producer. Barry’s producer is the partner of Q&A executive producer.

    The ABC doesn’t do many things right, but it has nepotism down pat.

  69. John64

    Well said. Frank Kelly just sat there…didn’t moderate and probably thought that the whole thing was a hoot.

    The frequency with which Frank Elly demonstrates his bias and incompetence never ceases to amaze me. The Q&A debacle was just one day after Frank’s appalling interview of Greg Hunt on Insiders in which Hunt could hardly get a word out of his mouth without being interrupted or talked over.

    It is astounding that the luvvies regularly hail this failed JJJ disc spinner as one of TheirABC’s star performers.

  70. Mother Lode

    SBS is even worse, a low budget “Community Channel” for Leftoid ratbaggery.

    Hey, you leave Natalie Tran out of this!

  71. egg_

    failed JJJ disc spinner

    If that ain’t the bottom of the meeja barrel…

  72. egg_

    leave Natalie Tran out of this!

    Blair introduced us all to the lovely Nat.

  73. duncanm

    areff
    #3205745, posted on November 8, 2019 at 1:51 pm

    Doubt it. Barry’s wife is a Q&A producer. Barry’s producer is the partner of Q&A executive producer.

    we need someone to step into Barry’s shoes for the next episode, hook into Q&A, and explain in exacting detail why Paul Barry had to excuse himself.

  74. John A

    Top Ender #3205474, posted on November 8, 2019 at 9:22 am

    Morrison really needs to take this as a golden opportunity to announce a panel to do an impartial review of the ABC.

    Duration: one month

    Personnel: one working class rep from each state and territory. One scribe. Three media experts to be picked by Morrison – no voting rights.

    Terms of reference: how to establish absolute impartiality in the ABC.

    Recommendations: to be implemented within one month of finalising.

    Recommend the following addition, Top:

    Terms of reference (2): If (1) is impossible to achieve, then make recommendations for transition
    a) to private ownership
    or
    b) to extinction.

  75. egg_

    [Q&A clip]
    Paul Barry: Well, there we have it – last Monday night’s Q&A on ABC.
    Dogwhistling for violence of all kinds.
    And where is the industry watchdog on this?
    We called and emailed the Producer and Executive with no reply.
    Has shock jock Fran Kelly gone too far this time with her journalistic “activism”?
    Are there vested interests behind such anarchy?
    Where is the Federal Minister and Managing Director of the ABC on this?

  76. struth

    “GetUp director Sara Saleh says Tony Abbott and Scott Morrison have “blood on their hands” flowing from the murder of 50 people in Christchurch last Friday.

    No, millions of teor attacks by Moooossies got one bit of pushback.
    It wasn’t Abbott who caused the moosssie shootings in Christchuch.
    It was Moooossies.
    You and I agree it’s not the way we should fight Islaaaaaaamic extremism, as it makes us as bad as them, but they brought it on themselves, by blowing up, decapitating, acid throwing, trucks into crowds, planes into buildings, etc etc etc…..
    To expect sane people to blame a politician because he wanted to unite all under one nation, as corny as it was, is a pure insult to our intelligence……….so shut it . mooosssieechicks.

  77. kae

    Shame they weren’t astute and thereby decided to pull it as it aired.

  78. Mother Lode

    Blair introduced us all to the lovely Nat.

    Yes indeed. I was surprised to see what a celebrity she had already become by the time Tim told us, yet she was thoroughly unassuming and endearing.

  79. struth

    Australia, getting to experience first hand, the insanity that produces the third world.

    Thanks Sco Mo.

  80. areff

    Whoops! Posted this on the OT by mistake. Apologies:

    If the Q&A show vanishes (as Ita ordered many hours ago, with no result), the entire transcript and youtube has been preserved at Quadrant for future reference. Link at the foot of the post.

    https://quadrant.org.au/mad-womens-snit/

  81. Dr Fred Lenin

    The Dr Fred Institute proposes that the government which administers the alpbc on behalf of its taxpayer owners ,
    1_Hive off the country broadcasting section of the abc for emergency only duties .
    2 Float the remainder on the ASXas a private company seeking shareholders .
    3. Pay out present and past employees entitlements ,super and pensions in shares in the company .
    4. Lease taxpayer pwned premises ,studios and equipment to the new company .
    5. Legistlate to make the company equal to commercial companies in broadcasting ,subject to same rules and laws as them .
    The new company can then seek like minded sponsors ,comrade soros and the like ,and continue to spread global fascist propaganda . The company can then pay tax if it ever makes any money .
    The institure feels this is a fair solution ,the taxpayer is relieved of the burden of supporting the abc and they are free to keep up the global fascist propaganda ,subject to normal laws .

  82. Miltonf

    Unwatchable, unlistenable and beyond reform.

  83. jupes

    If the Q&A show vanishes (as Ita ordered many hours ago, with no result),

    Why is that do you reckon?

    Are they just too busy to do the extra work required?
    Are they in no hurry and Ita is cool with that?
    Or is it indeed a giant fuck you to Ita? How dare she think she can tell them what to do.

    Be interesting to see when, if ever, it is taken down.

  84. Art Vandelay

    Morrison really needs to take this as a golden opportunity to announce a panel to do an impartial review of the ABC.

    Morrison and his fellow cowards in the Liberal Party are much more likely to give the ABC an extra $100m than do anything decisive or sensible like undertake a review.

  85. areff

    Communications Minister Paul Fletcher brings the full weight of his outrage to the matter in 83 words:

    This week’s episode of Q&A on ABC television (broadcast Monday, 4 November 2019), in which some panelists used offensive language and called for or endorsed violence, has generated significant community concern.

    “The ABC has this afternoon announced that it will investigate whether the program met the ABC’s editorial standards. This is appropriate,” said the Minister for Communications, Cyber Safety and the Arts, the Hon Paul Fletcher.

    Under its legislation the ABC has editorial independence. Editorial judgments are a matter for Board and management.”

    And that’s it!

    Art Vandelay is right: Thge ABC is far more likely to get more cash out of Morrison & Co than the bitch slapping it deserves.

  86. egg_

    Under its legislation the ABC has editorial independence.

    Get rid of it.

  87. yarpos

    You would think inciting violence would be more of a law of the land issue than editorial standards. I guess if you are one of the annointed few its OK.

  88. Miltonf

    Fletcher is almost as big a waste of space as Birmingham.

  89. Miltonf

    Porter is a close contender.

  90. areff

    Ita ordered the Q&A show to be taken down. It’s not difficult to delete something from a CMS, yet eight hours later the show is still up there, bold as brass.

    This, I suspect, is the grubs in the ABC grease trap telling the boss to perform an anatomically improbable solo act.

    From Minister Fletcher, the ongoing rumble of deep, somnolent snores.

  91. Miltonf

    Yep completely out of control. A rouge Marxist goon squad.

  92. MatrixTransform

    QnA is s unicorn made from a dog by putting a dunce hat on it.

    All of them rhetorically framing their nasty, ragging, uncivilized, Marxist gibber as a noble, necessary path to Utopia.

    and David Anderson is a moron if he thinks prostrating himself before the Gynocracy will save his idiot neck.

    Don’t forget peoples … these psychos are coming for your fathers, brothers, and sons.

    …are you sure men are the enemy?

  93. Cardimona

    [email protected]

    G’day Paul

    Mate, I’m told you’re now the Minister responsible for the ABC.

    It’s out of control, Paul; you need to shut it down.

    I’ve gone the ABC formal complaints about bias route – what a WOFTAM.

    Afterwards I checked the ABC’s annual reports for the numbers of upheld bias complaints.

    If you haven’t done so, I suggest you have a look, mate.

    It’s enlightening.

    Look, the ABC costs us much more than the direct $1+ billion of taxpayers’ money.

    There’s also what their political ideology costs us in lost jobs, growth and opportunity – many … many billions more.

    You want to see that ideology in action?

    See QandA from Monday 4/11/19.

    Mate, close it, sell it, mutualise it – I don’t care which but do one of them.

    If this pack of tax-eating zealots weren’t stealing the profit from commercial media then competition might actually deliver us the real world news we want to see.

    It’s your job and your duty, Paul; just do it.

    By the way, Professor Sinclair Davidson and Dr Chris Berg of RMIT have written a book on how to do it – see here, https://www.connorcourtpublishing.com.au/Against-Public-Broadcasting-Why-and-how-we-should-privatise-the-ABC–Chris-Berg-and-Sinclair-Davidson_p_177.html

    Good luck, Paul; it’ll be ugly and noisy but you’ll emerge a legend.

    Cheers

    Sent yesterday…

  94. Is this the plan? 1. Announce an internal review so criticism can be deflected. 2. Delete the program from Iview so that citizens who want to see what the fuss is about cannot do so easily. 3. A few weeks hence announce that changes have been mafe and it is all history noe.

  95. Muddy

    Cassie of Sydney
    #3205532, posted on November 8, 2019 at 10:20 am

    germalist Frank Kelly on Monday night.

    Creative language. I like it. Well done.

  96. Muddy

    This is a prime opportunity for an intelligent conservative party (real or imagined) to target one of the enablers (the ABC): If any of the political factions refuse to condemn the latest episode of Q&A, then accuse them of passively advocating violence against the laws of the land. Yes, I know that will go nowhere initially, however in theory, the aim is to make public support of such enablers by political players, poison. When you reduce the ability of politicians to gain from publicly supporting such enablers, you reduce the ‘friends’ these enablers have. Before you can get rid of the ABC, supporting it needs to be made political poison. Neutralise enablers such as the ABC, and other, broader, issues (gerbil worming for example) have less support, and are more vulnerable to attack. To make a simplistic, historical analogy: substantial European fortifications in the 14th to 18th Centuries did not just have one single wall that, if breached, lead to the fall of the town.

  97. stackja

    Cardimona
    #3205985, posted on November 8, 2019 at 6:05 pm

    Thank you.
    I have sent my humble message too.
    I have got the expected reply.

    Automatic reply: ABC Q&A

  98. stackja

    More bush fires in NSW state forests. Why bother fighting these fires. Protect life and property and let the forests burn. How long since hazard reduction in forests?

  99. stackja

    Does ABC support hazard reduction?

  100. Squirrel

    “Q&A has always sought to tackle difficult issues and present challenging and thought-provoking content. However, I can understand why some viewers found elements of this episode confronting or offensive.”

    Standard Left-elite condescension. A healthy dose of it on display at the Press Club today, too – particularly when tap-dancing around the issue of climate change and costs the ALP wants to inflict on the deplorables.

  101. Megan

    Fletcher’s 83 words were found in the Documents folder of his shiny, ministerial computer under “ABC Wet Lettuce Response”.

  102. Tel

    Both Mona Eltahawy and Nayuka Gorrie called for unspeakable acts of violence.

    I didn’t watch the show … but if you are going to make serious accusations like that then it is the accuser who should put forward a specific case, including some quotes and relevant context. There’s been way too much of this vague reputation smearing already … and neither Libertarians nor Conservative are the people who should be contributing to such distortions.

    From my perspective, violence used for self-defense is not desirable, but might be necessary at times. We already have relevant laws to support this, and no the police will never be there at the time when you need them. If Mona Eltahawy and Nayuka Gorrie want to come forward on the ABC or any other platform and advocate legal concealed carry (which is vast more beneficial to women than it is to men) then I’m happy to support that.

    There is of course a time and a place for the police force … the time is a good ten to fifteen minutes after the bad guy has run away and the place is drawing chalk outlines on the pavement. I don’t want to do that job … fine by me if the police are doing it. Hopefully some of these bad guys get caught after the fact … that creates some deterrent effect, but other than that you are on your own.

  103. JohnJJJ

    Mona Eltahawy should have her own show on the ABC, “Qadah” and invite on all the imams and a few mullas. I’d watch it for sure.

  104. Free speech is just wonderful. One can get a glimpse to understand the mind of the speaker – who would want to suppress that?

  105. Lazlo

    It’s still up there on the ABC website. Now a massive f’you from the staff collective to Ita.

  106. Nob

    What candy said x100.

    The idiocy of taxpayers paying a billion+ for the ABC is a separate issue.

  107. Destroyer D69

    Mona still got front of house appearance on ABC NEWS the next morning for a rapturous appearance to promote her book…….

  108. iain russell

    BigBlueCat @1,20pm. yes. Personally I hope that this steaming terd of a show, and the pestilent freaks that infect it, continue to hang like the cancerous tumours they are on the Arsehole Broadcasting Corporation.

  109. Robber Baron

    Tony Abbott and Cardinal Pall must tweet a joint condemnation calling for a public apology.

    You know this the most effective response.

  110. stackja

    Liberty Quote
    The financial acid test of most ‘public’ services is whether the people for whom they are supposedly intended would pay for them. Let government and subsidised ‘public’ services be judged not by politicians and lobbyists but by the people for whom they are intended.

    — Arthur Seldon

  111. The BigBlueCat

    Tel
    #3206140, posted on November 8, 2019 at 8:15 pm
    Both Mona Eltahawy and Nayuka Gorrie called for unspeakable acts of violence.

    I didn’t watch the show … but if you are going to make serious accusations like that then it is the accuser who should put forward a specific case, including some quotes and relevant context. There’s been way too much of this vague reputation smearing already … and neither Libertarians nor Conservative are the people who should be contributing to such distortions.

    You will find the transcript here where you will find that the ABC still hasn’t taken the video down (they’ve only taken it off iView – I sure hope some heads will roll as a result of their rebelliousness).

    I did watch it – it was a massive echo chamber where no controversial comments were challenged. Suggest you read Gerard Henderson’s take on it. The issue is mainly “lack of balance” – only one position was heard and nothing was challenged. It was both enlightening and frightening – enlightening in that it was clear what certain people want to see, and frightening because the rule of law was to be suspended to achieve their aims.

    But there were clear calls from panellists to dismantle the police, kill rapists (ie vigilante-style, not state-sponsored punishment), “burn stuff” and put in a new order (remove the patriarchy). None of these was challenged by the moderator, and when questioned from the audience, violence was “justified”. Milo gets banned from Australia for saying pretty petty stuff – none of it relating to inciting violence … these gals were serious in their utterances! Mona should be banned from Australia!

    Mona made several claims regarding misogyny, patriarchy and violence in relation to Morrison, Trump and others without providing evidence. No-one asked for, nor were any examples provided, of Morrison’s or Trump’s alleged misogyny, patriarchy or violence – it was assumed to be correct.

    Such is today’s ABC and Q&A.

  112. Miltonf

    Which we are forced to pay for

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