Open Forum: November 9, 2019

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  1. Knuckle Dragger

    Participation ribbons will be issued for all those who contributed to the last thread, which will be spoken of in hushed tones thousands of years from now.

  2. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Podium?

    I claim this thread in the name of the Scottish squatters along the Riverina, in the 1850’s, who introduced Scotch whisky into Australia. It’s long been my contention that they never received the recognition they deserved.

  3. Bruce in WA

    Sneaky!!

    Friday night. Remind me not to take this bloke on …

  4. Bruce in WA

    JD, I’ve seen that video before. They are amazing. When this was shot, he was 70 and his wife was 64.

  5. Megan

    I’ve made it to the firsts! Better than 12th man. Or woman. Or whatever you identify as today.

  6. Knuckle Dragger

    JD,

    Thanks a bunch. Now we’re all going to be subject to the wonders of dance for the elderly later this morning.

    Coiled rippling tiger something. Stretchiness, kitchen floors and PTs.

    Your attendance is now mandatory.

  7. Bruce in WA

    Thanks a bunch. Now we’re all going to be subject to the wonders of dance for the elderly later this morning.

    Oi! As long as it’s the horizontal gavotte you’re talking about, I’m in!

    (I still remember WHAT, I just don’t remember HOW!) 😀

  8. Infidel Tiger

    JD, I’ve seen that video before. They are amazing. When this was shot, he was 70 and his wife was 64.

    Jiving must be a hard life. He looks every bit of 84 and her about the same.

    I’ll stick to liquor and hard living thanks.

  9. Bruce in WA

    I’ll stick to liquor and hard living thanks.

    You won’t live as long, but you WILL live happier!

  10. Mark A

    Infidel Tiger
    #3206246, posted on November 9, 2019 at 12:29 am

    JD, I’ve seen that video before. They are amazing. When this was shot, he was 70 and his wife was 64.

    Jiving must be a hard life. He looks every bit of 84 and her about the same.

    Not wrong there IT, my dad is near 90 and looks younger than that bloke, never jived in his life.

  11. Infidel Tiger

    Johannes Leak appointed cartoonist in chief at The Oz.

  12. Confuses Old Misfit

    Morning all

  13. Confuses Old Misfit

    Leak appointment: GOOD!

  14. Confuses Old Misfit

    Night All!

  15. John Constantine

    https://medium.com/@mariacross/why-vegetable-cooking-oils-are-as-bad-as-sugar-243ab0b6ccca

    Food fried at home usually reaches average temperatures of 180ºC. That is enough to cause further degradation, whether you deep-fry or shallow-fry. If you reheat the same oil, you exacerbate the degradation, creating more free radicals and trans fats in the process.

    Frying polyunsaturated oils also creates toxic aldehydes, which are linked to atherosclerosis (the formation of plaques on artery walls), cancer, inflammatory joint disease and (in animal studies) birth defects. In a study published in the journal Free Radical Research, it was found that when pregnant rats were fed safflower oil that had been heated for twenty minutes, nearly 22% developed embryo malformations, compared to less than 6% of rats fed the same oil, unheated.

    You don’t even have to eat fried food to suffer the effects of frying: people working close to fat fryers have been found to be at risk from air-borne breakdown products of heated oils, in particular aldehydes. Women in China frequently exposed to fumes from indoor cooking with woks have one of the highest rates of lung cancer in the world.

  16. John Constantine

    Later, in 2015, The British Medical Journal published a review of the most robust studies into the assumed harmful effects of saturated fat, and concluded that there was no association between saturated fat intake and increased risk of death from any cause, including heart disease.

    They did however find an association between industrial trans fats and risk of cardiovascular disease.

    So ditch the vegetable oils and go back to butter — it was always better.

  17. JC

    Oh god he’s claiming again.

  18. Cold-Hands

    Hands up those who think Stephen Hawking was in any fit state to take ‘full’ advantage of Jeffrey Epstein’s ‘hospitality’.

    From memory, he has fathered two children with his nurse.

    Hawking had three kids, all with his 1st wife, fathered before his MND became debilitating.

  19. Cold-Hands

    I’ve been reading Pullman’s La Belle Sauvage and it’s very good. The nominally Christian bad guys are totalitarian arseholes, and the underground opposition want democracy and free speech.

    Really? I thought it was pretty poor, just riding on the coat-tails of His Dark Materials. The new characters are pretty stock, the fantastical elements less well integrated into the world (& seeming like afterthoughts), roughly half the book just padding, & his treatment of the r*pe of sixteen-year old Alice just so offhand that it seems a mere plot device. I greatly enjoyed the original trilogy despite my Catholicism, but this new addition to his world was a massive disappointment.

  20. classical_hero

    We must listen to climate scientists.

    Yet more talk of needing less people on the planet, in spite of numerous failed predictions about it. Maybe this is the extinction that they were talking about.

  21. Tom

    As IT mentioned above, Australia’s unfunniest cartoonist has finally taken the hint and pissed off out of our lives:

    Since Bill [Leak’s] sudden death in 2017 the editorial cartoon has been in the witty hands of Jon Kudelka, but with his departure to greener pastures a new incumbent has been appointed: Johannes Leak.

    Under [new Paywallian editor-in-chief Christopher] Dore his workload expanded, with appearances in other parts of the paper and occasionally on the editorial page.
    Now he will appear there full time …

    Ladies and gentlemen, the Paywallian’s new chief cartoonist, Johannes Leak.

  22. Tom

    With Kudelka’s departure, David Rowe at the dying anti-business daily is now officially Australia’s unfunniest [and vilest] cartoonist — unable to escape his boring Trump derangement.

  23. Cold-Hands

    As IT mentioned above, Australia’s unfunniest cartoonist has finally taken the hint and pissed off out of our lives:

    I would have thought that title belonged to the ghastly First Dog on the Moon, whose gutless & unreadable tripe infests the Grauniad. Not that I have any time for Kudelka, who muted me on twitter for taking him to task about his ignorant virtue-signalling over Medevac.

  24. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Thanks also from me, Tom.

  25. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Maybe this is the extinction that they were talking about.

    Now you’re beginning to get the picture. It has been the aim for a very long time.
    This dates back even to long before Thomas Malthus loaned his name to it.

  26. classical_hero

    Steve Bright, you bastard. That’s a sight I never want to see again.

    Nice tribute by Leak Jr.

  27. classical_hero

    Peter, I know. But of course they never include themselves in the cull. As Tony Heller explained, that would require either genocide or a massive pandemic. The left are truly evil.

  28. bespoke

    Hoping Arky will stay in the old thread dribbling on how the world was created only two thousand yeas ago.

    What is it with retired teachers driving MX5’s and Hallucinogens.

  29. bespoke

    Nation’s Gen Xers Announce Plan To Just Sit Back And Enjoy Watching Boomers, Millennials Tear Each Other To Shreds

    “We kinda have it made,” Ganders added. “We get all the benefits of the boomers’ unsustainable social programs and get to be a little bit lazy like the millennials, and yet they skip right over us and blame the other guy.”

    😎

  30. JC

    Lord, I wish there was some gerbil warming. I’d forgotten how freaking cold it gets in NY. There’s supposedly a cold weather spell which is going to hit the Midwest and North East from Sunday on bringing on record lows.

    Undoubtedly, as this is an extreme weather event, it will also be ascribed to gerbil warming.

  31. struth

    Good Moaning.
    Just pissing by and thought I would droop in.

    All good with the world when Tom’s cartoons start the day .
    I scroll back to them or just before as a point of reference.

    As regards brexit.
    I find it amazing , and a sign of the times we live in that any British pollitician admits to being a remainer.
    This is an undemocratic, and therefore traitorous stance to take and after the referendum anyone who declares such a position is stating unequivocally thst they are an enemy of democracy and the British people.

  32. pete m

    Johannes drawing of his dad looking at him is sweet.

  33. JC

    If this deplorable bint ( Chief High Cheeks) wins, you can kiss the US goodbye as it will be gonsky.

    Sen. Elizabeth Warren said Friday that she is “open to suspending deportations” for illegal immigrants if she becomes president.

    “I am open to suspending deportations, particularly as a way to push Congress for comprehensive immigration reform,” the Democratic presidential candidate said during a Latinx town hall in Raleigh, North Carolina, according to a video posted on YouTube by the Republican National Committee.

    Ms. Warren made the comment after a mother of five in the audience tearfully asked the Massachusetts senator whether she would be willing to put a moratorium on deportations of illegal immigrants who have criminal records, like her husband.

  34. classical_hero

    As a GenXer, I mostly agree with the article, except for the bit about grunge.

  35. struth

    If you are running for President and you are concerned for the welfare of people who have illegally invaded your country and committed crimes you should be put up against a wall and shot.
    If you are not running for president the same applies.

  36. Bruce of Newcastle

    Not allowed to be Anglo-Saxon.

    Academic calls for ’Anglo-Saxon’ to be dropped as it’s used by ‘white supremacists’

    It’s amazing how many things we’re not allowed to be in this new age of diversity.

  37. struth

    This is exactly why politics is so divisive these days.
    The left have moved from economic morons and nationalist to traitors against their countries.
    They have moved from wishing to change Australia to actively trying to destroy it.

    The hatred they then recieve is completely justified and indeed natural.

    They started it.
    Pure and simple.

  38. Bad Samaritan

    On this 30th anniversary……my favourite ditty from back then…

    Bear in mind that we didn’t know then how quickly things would move. A very good friend and I had been to see President Reagan at the Brandenbuerger Tor. My mate was attached to the Canadian Military Mission in the Europa Zentrum…they handled all Australia’s business in Berlin (west) so we’d got to know each other well. The invite was a very big deal for me…

    Anyhow, corny as this video may seem, it was rather “defiant” in many other ways. Mocking the Commies while all around were praising them. Berlin (west) was packed with leftists and leftist appeasers, especially as those residing in the city were not subject to West German national Service (Bundesdienst).

    At night we often heard the American tanks in the forest (we lived in the south in the American Sector) and some evenings there were shots from near the wall (usually a series of fences in the forest). Near where i was based by day the “wall” was a canal (Teltow; British Sector). People of exactly the same ethnicity and culture as the rest of Germany were occasionally killed in that canal, trying to escape what the ALP + Greens want to give us here in Oz right now.

    Some things to note in the music clip. The Microphone for JFK…RIAS = Rundfunk (radio) Im Amerikanischen Sektor , the voice of freedom. The flags as the wall was built FDJ = Freie Deutsche Jugend = Free German Youth = Communist-Era Nazi Youth. The crowds for JFK were at Rathaus Schoeneberg (Schoeneberg Town Hall; the Chief Townhall for all Berlin (west)..). This is now JFK Platz. It is on Martin Luther Strasse which goes a number of kilometres to Potsdamer Platz which was then blocked by the wall. It also passes by Kleist park where the Kommandantur stood / stands. I never got to seethese guys there unfortunately.

    Anyhow…an oldie, but a goodie. For those who slept through their German classes. “Berlin Berlin Your heart knows no wall. There’s nothing to regret”. when Ernst Reuter said “The heart of the nation beats here, he nailed it. When Walter Ulbricht claimed the Commies had “no intention to ever build a wall” he was nothing but the archetypal leftist we still see everywhere; a f*ckin’ lioar. Cheers.

  39. struth

    I refuse to be put in a generational box by collectivists.
    Gen X Indigenous or not, white male,……blah b blah…

    Hey, love me for who I am.

    No reaaaaaaaally.
    Come and get to know me.
    There’s a lot more to me than my date of birth.
    Please don’t judge me by it.

  40. vr

    Uber employees can finally sell their stock. They won’t be as rich as they hoped.

    Of course, the tech IPOs, even if they haven’t been smash hits, have still minted many new millionaires.

    “We have just had a gangbuster year in mortgages,” said Yvette Butler, head of private banking and wealth advisory at Silicon Valley Bank, which caters to executives from venture-backed companies, offering them the ability to borrow money against the value of their stock.

    “Even this fall, the buyers are mostly in tech,” said Danielle Lazier, a Compass real estate broker in San Francisco.

    In the past couple of months, Lazier says some of those buyers have offered her clients unusual tech-adjacent perks to sweeten the deal, such as Pinterest stock (trading down 12 percent from its IPO value of $12.7 billion in April) and a Tesla. “The sellers said, ‘We actually need two Teslas,’ and [the buyers] said ‘Okay,’ ” Lazier explained. In the end, neither of the unconventional bids won, and the sellers went with the “highest amount in U.S. dollars.”

  41. calli

    The Samaritan debate is easy indeed.
    There are a whole bunch of people on here, bizarrely including Christians, arguing that there is nothing special about the Christian brand of “decent”.

    Perhaps I misunderstood the discussion.

    I thought it was about kindness to foreigners and when that started and why.

  42. Bruce of Newcastle

    Here you go Numbers.

    A Day to be Proud of Rick Rescorla

    Yesterday President Trump awarded a posthumous Presidential Citizens Medal to Rick Rescorla. Rescorla’s beloved wife, Susan, and his two children were on hand. The White House tweeted out several notes on the event including a live stream of the 17-minute ceremony.

    In Vietnam, Rescorla served as an infantry platoon officer. He led his men in the harrowing combat recounted in Harold Moore and Joseph Galloway’s We Were Soldiers Once…And Young. Rescorla’s recollections contribute to key parts of the narrative.

    Rescorla died a hero’s death saving all but 13 of his 2,700 charges at Morgan Stanley in the south tower of the World Trade Center on 9/11. Rescorla was head of security for the company; he directed the evacuation in which he had long drilled the company’s WTC employees. He knew that a terrorist attack on the WTC was coming and he knew what had happened as soon as the building was hit. His message was one of resolve. Using a bullhorn, he shepherded his charges into the tower’s one usable fire escape and exhorted them that it was “a day to be proud to be an American.” It was that kind of day again yesterday.

    A medal well earned. RIP Col. Rescorla.

  43. I didn’t mind Pullman’s first children’s book in the dark materials trilogy, compared to Eragon it was a masterpiece (not saying much).

    I haven’t read the other two, for no particular reason.

    It is the targeting of children with anti Christian themes that I object to.

    Just finished A Song for Arbonne, very solid ( thanks Stimpy)

    Now randomly reading a Warhammer book called Blood Pact by Dan Abbett.

    So far so good.

  44. 1735099

    Another piece of history, describing “fragging”, a phenomenon unique to this particular conflict.
    From the link –

    Since most fragging incidents did not end up in the court system, it is more difficult to establish a profile of the perpetrators themselves. However, a 1976 study conducted at the U.S. Disciplinary Barracks (USDB) at Fort Leavenworth gleaned some general characteristics of likely individuals who committed fragging. Of 850 inmates in the USDB population at the time, 28 were identified whose actions, based on their courts-martial transcripts, matched the fragging incident profile. On average, they were 20 years old and had 28 months on active duty. About 20 percent were African American, and about 7 percent were draftees. Most had enlisted in the service and supported the war.

  45. Calli

    That argument was a distraction because someone tried for a but Good Samaritan gotcha and was told by several people it was a parable.

    I don’t go for the might be true for a second.

    If it was true then Christ could not have been the only source and it would not have had the impact it did.

    He used parables a lot, and sometimes he involved people around him.

  46. As for the hospitality.

    Roger is right.

    All are made in the image of God.

  47. calli

    Johannes’ cartoon is a self-deprecating beauty. The tribute names on the clown shoes, and those within! All Bill’s creations.

    Good stuff and congratulations.

  48. 1735099

    Yesterday President Trump awarded a posthumous Presidential Citizens Medal to Rick Rescorla.

    I wonder if Fatty 5D* reflected on his own behavior at the time when Rick Rescorla earned his award.

    *Trump was deferred from service in Vietnam 5 times, and has a weight problem.

  49. The decency thing arose from the Pullman discussion.

    I don’t know how to put it well but people continue to try to divorce Western moral ethical ‘good’ behaviour from its foundations.

    It’s a learned behaviour that has old testament roots too.

    Even is lam has borrowed it with their famous hospitality.

    But without it there is no reason, which is why you invariably find, in its absence, might is right.

  50. I watched the first episode of His Dark Materials and liked it, but if it degenerates into Catholic bashing I’m not really inclined to watch it.

  51. notafan

    Sick troll using the occasion marking the heroism of another to attack
    Again.

    Rest in peace Rick Rescorla

  52. Bruce of Newcastle

    Here you go CH!

    California Brewery Prints “Epstein Didn’t Kill Himself” On The Bottom Of Its Cans

    Tactical Ops Brewing in Fresno, California is printing the message “EPSTEIN DIDNT KILL HIMSELF” on the bottom of beer cans, according to local Fox affiliate KMPH.

    Carlos Tavor, manager of Tactical Ops, said that the idea for printing the message on the brewery’s cans first came to him around a week ago because the Jeffrey Epstein meme is “a big thing right now.”

    Tactical Ops began in 2014 with a vision to combine craft beer with “appreciation for our family members that served our country,” according to the brewery’s website.

    The brewery’s owners have close ties to the U.S. military.

    In addition to Basher Oatmeal Stout, Tactical Ops markets beers with names like Shrapnel IPA, Blonde Bomber, Bunker Brown, Bayonet Hazel Nut Brown, and more.

    They sound like a fine small bunker in the heart of the enemy territory of California.

  53. notafan

    Underlying purpose Frank.

    I haven’t see the show so don’t know how overt it is in that treatment but the book lays it on with a heavy hand.

  54. calli

    From the tail end of the now deceased thread.

    This won first prize at the Whittlesea Show.

    And all hell has broken loose.

    At least the hobby has had a bit of publicity. But be careful quilters…the Quilt Police are ever vigilant.

  55. 1735099

    Sick troll using the occasion marking the heroism of another to attack
    Again.

    The “sickness” was sending men like Rick Rescorla (and 57000 others) to fight and die in an unwinnable war.

    This describes what was going on behind the scenes in the US military at the time.

  56. Mark M

    Javid reneges on green pledges in guidance to regulators

    Sajid Javid has reneged on a government commitment to include climate change targets in official guidance to the UK’s financial regulators.

    The failure to address the environment goes against a pledge made in the government’s Green Finance strategy in July.
    It stated that the next letters of recommendation issued to the BoE’s Prudential Regulation Authority, Financial Policy Committee and the FCA would specify that they should “have regard” to the 2015 Paris climate accord “when considering how to advance their objectives and discharge their functions”.

    https://www.ft.com/content/6a6ad92a-0081-11ea-be59-e49b2a136b8d

    Winning.

  57. That’s a shame about Pullman. He could have been a much better writer if he was not an anti Catholic loon. The story is enjoyable but the plot is as subtle as Sam Newman doing blackface pissed during NAIDOC week.

  58. calli

    In moderation for a forbidden word.

    Just look up Whittlesea Show and witness the confected rage over the prizewinner.

  59. notafan

    My South Vietnamese friend would disagree.

    But hey only little brown Catholics so who cares what happened to them.

    Right bob?

  60. “Unwinnable war”
    “Irresponsible obese village idiot and God emperor of earth slugfuhrer Dwumpf withdraws from Mid East”

    Except Nixon bombed the terrorist Viet Minh into a treaty and the Rest Offensive for example, failed miserably.

    The Viet Minh will one day be hanged (rightfully) by their countrymen, the US, Australia and Vietnam will live on for hundreds if years.

  61. calli

    Never heard of Pullman until yesterday. An article where he criticised Tolkien for weak characterisation and religious themes.

    Jealousy is a curse. Like lack of self-awareness.

  62. notafan

    Saw that story Calli.

    Gollies are not as despised as the confected outragers on behalf of others would have

  63. notafan

    If only the author had made golly white. He’d have been all right.

    Gollies have zero connection to US slave history

  64. Twostix

    The left have moved from economic morons and nationalist to traitors against their countries

    ??

    The left spent the better part of a century working for, with and towards a soviet global empire.

    From ~1990 – 2000 there was a brief let up but that was an anomaly.

  65. BrettW

    Wow. I generally avoid engaging with the low life from Toowoomba but he has reached a new low today.

    Mention is made of Rick Rescorla, a LT in a famous battle in Vietnam, and receiving a medal for saving people on Sept 11.

    What is his response ?. He puts up a post about fragging of officers and then another of his repetitive posts about Trump and Vietnam.

    He truly is a disgrace to those who have served this country in the military or had responsability for teaching children. No doubt if he turns out at any event to commemorate Remembrance Day he will again be wearing his medals in a manner (ie. without his National Service medal) which suggests he was a regular who volunteered. This despite the fact he constantly bleats about being a conscript who was compelled to serve in Vietnam.

    What a miserable piece of work he is.

  66. 1735099

    Except Nixon bombed the terrorist Viet Minh into a treaty and the Rest Offensive for example, failed miserably.

    The Viet Minh effectively ceased to exist as an organised movement after the French were defeated at Dien Bien Phu.

    It is widely acknowledged that Tet, whilst a military failure, was a political success for the Vietnamese which led eventually to the US withdrawal.

  67. mh

    Greta wants it even colder

    Arctic Surge expected to bring record cold temperatures for November

    A powerful Arctic Surge across most of the U.S. is expected to bring record-breaking cold temperatures early next week.

    The National Weather Service (NWS) says numerous cold weather records for mid-November could be broken in the central, southern, and eastern U.S. states…

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/artic-surge-record-cold-temperatures

  68. Tel

    https://www.theblaze.com/news/black-conservative-student-leader-kicked-out-of-college-meeting–for-wearing-blackface

    This is pretty funny … we don’t need another example of Social Justice Hypocrisy but never the less they keep coming.

  69. Twostix

    File this under “oops“…

    At 32 years of age, Anna Hitchings expected to be married with children by now.

    But over the past year, she has found herself grappling with a realisation that she may never tie the knot.

    The rationalisations for “missing the boat” in that article (in one case she spent her youth travelling and partying) are extraordinary.

    Spinsters going to spinster I suppose.

  70. Bruce of Newcastle

    Pullman has full grade TDS plus Boris derangement syndrome.

    ‘His Dark Materials’ Author Suggested Boris Should be Hanged from ‘Nearest Lamp-post’ (29 Aug)

    He’s also a fan of everything Greta, as you might expect.

  71. classical_hero

    BoN, yeah I’ve seen them on Twitter. The meme has lasted longer than Epstein did in prison.

  72. calli

    What gets me is that there are currently dozens of gollyw-g patterns and other stuff out there – quilts, toys, figurines, pictures, books.

    The one that everyone’s howling about looks like an original design. And it’s very well done.

    A civil rights group has slammed a community show in Victoria for awarding a prize to a racist quilt.

    The Whittlesea Leader reported the quilt, which depicts 24 golliw-gs from 24 different countries, won ‘most outstanding exhibit’ in the patchwork quilt category at the Whittlesea Show.

    The American golliw-g is showed lassoing a Native American-Indian and the golliw-g from New Zealand is shown to be doing the ‘haka,’ a traditional Maori dance.

    Anti-Defamation Commission chairman Dr Dvir Abramovich told the newspaper organisers should not have awarded the prize to the quilt as it “promoted demeaning and humiliating stereotypes” and said it was “beyond offensive.”

    He called on the show organisers to apologise.

    Whittlesea Show Agricultural Society secretary, Rose Stark, said the piece was chosen because of its “high standard of the workmanship”.

    She said the organisation “did not discriminate based on race.”

    The golliw-g has been described as racist by the Jim Crow Museum of Racist Memorabilia.

    The character was created by American Florence Kate Upton.

    In Upton’s 1895 book The Adventures of Two Dutch Dolls the Golliw-g character is described as “a horrid sight, the blackest gnome.”

    The golliw-g was a caricature of American minstrels – white men who dressed in blackface with the intention of humiliating and lampooning black men.

    In 2016, Aboriginal activists slammed a chemist in Toowoomba, Queensland, for selling golliw-g dolls, dubbing the town ‘the most racist in Australia’.

    Aboriginal author Stephen Hagan slammed the sale of the dolls.

    “Words can’t describe this behaviour in the 21st century. I can understand it in the 1960s but to do it today is inexcusable,” he told media at the time.

    Oh! The Humanity!

    Although what Australian Aborigines have to do with nineteenth century American racial stereotypes escapes me.

  73. notafan

    I don’t understand why people think the Christian God is a vengeful God.

    As a Catholic I’ve only ever been taught of a loving merciful God who forgives, and not just once.

    The characterisation of the Church by people like Pullman mystified me.

    Accept or reject the message of Christ.

    Up to you.

    Oh and Pullman’s great wish.

    Good luck with that.

  74. The Viet Minh effectively ceased to exist as an organised movement after the French were defeated at Dien Bien Phu.

    No, that cadre of bloodthirsty terrorist lunatics now wear Versace suits and impose murder and terror on millions of their countrymen.

    Rightfully, just like the Nazis, they will be hanged one day.

  75. calli

    That was fun. Just watched Gretel Killeen have hysterics on Seven.

    Climate Emergency! because bushfires. How many signs do we need? sez she. We must Do Something! When Chris Smith asked her exactly what we should do she went feral.

    🍿

  76. notafan

    The golli itself has nothing to do with US racial stereotypes.

    Nothing to do with blackface or black and white minstrels.

    It’s a children’s toy from 19th century England.

  77. His Dark Materials has been scrapped. I’ll use my Netflix subscription more.

  78. I think Pullman is actually quite nuts:

    It reminds me of a conversation that takes place in The Good Man Jesus, where Christ visits a prostitute and afterwards discusses his brother, depicting him as a man of passion, while all he can do is describe what happens. “Ah,” smiles Pullman, “his postcoital self-analysis.” Does he see himself as the passionate being or the describer? “Oh I’m the describer,” he says firmly, resolutely. “That’s what I do.” Has he always felt that way? “Oh yeah,” he says. “I’ve always noticed things, watched how they happen and how people deal with them. And then gone over them in my mind, made them better, shaped them, cut out the extraneous stuff. There’s part of me that looks at everything, always, that’s always on duty. Maybe that’s true of everyone,” he says brusquely, “and they just call it daydreaming.”

    But is there anything in his life that carries him away? Any passion or obsession that forces him to put aside his describing self? He thinks for a long, silent while. “Well I get very exercised about politics and civil rights,” he says eventually. “But, as I’ve learned, if you just say the first thing that comes into your head you get carried away by a wave of passion, you tend to spout nonsense and gibberish, so it’s much better to be dispassionate about it ahead of time. It’s not the fury you remember afterwards; it’s cool words that are said by somebody who has thought about them.” He admires especially Clive Stafford-Smith as a contemporary orator. “But do we have people of that stature in British politics?” he asks, pre-empting my question. “No, not one.”

    He’s just another leftist projecting his own lack of morals onto everything else.

  79. MatrixTransform

    People of exactly the same ethnicity and culture as the rest of Germany were occasionally killed in that canal, trying to escape what the ALP + Greens want to give us here in Oz right now.

    Hear Hear.

    I know 2x Czecho’s and a Romanian who survived their respective escapes while their team-mates didn’t.
    No Chermans though

  80. calli
    #3206342, posted on November 9, 2019 at 8:03 am

    That was fun. Just watched Gretel Killeen have hysterics on Seven.

    Climate Emergency! because bushfires. How many signs do we need? sez she. We must Do Something! When Chris Smith asked her exactly what we should do she went feral.

    She’s a misinformed dope.

    Why is she famous in the first place?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Thursday_bushfires

    Conditions and progress

    The weather reached record extremes. By eleven it was about 47 °C (117 °F) in the shade. The air cooled to 43 °C (109 °F) by one o’clock and rose to 45 °C (113 °F) around four o’clock. Survivors claimed the air was so full of smoke and heat that their lungs seemed to collapse. The air was so dark it made the roads seem bright.[4] Pastures and plains became shrivelled wastelands: water-holes disappeared, creeks dried up, and trees turned into combustible timber. Clouds of smoke filled the air; forests and ranges became one large “sheet of flames”.[4] The hot north wind was so strong that thick black smoke reached northern Tasmania, creating a murky mist, resembling a combination of smoke and fog.[5] Homes, crops and gardens were consumed by the rushing fire leaving a quarter of Victoria in a heap of desolate ruins. The community fled to water to escape the suffocating air around them, returning after everything was over to the sight of “blackened homesteads”[4] and the charred bodies of animals that could not escape. The weather at sea was even “more fearful than on shore”.[4] The intense heat could be felt 32 km (20 mi) out to sea where a ship came under burning ember attack and was covered in cinders and dust.[6]

    Eventually, a southerly breeze and light rain cooled the surface.[4]

  81. dover_beach

    Pullman owns a pug, has TDS and thinks Brexit is the end of the world. Pullman is a urban bugman.

  82. Spent much of last night drinking beer and rereading Kurt Schlicters “Indian Country.”
    I have made it #1 in my list of books that will never be turned into a film by Hollywood.

  83. notafan

    Lol DB

    And was a teacher.

    Say no more.

  84. calli

    You mean Urban Pugman, Dover.

    🤣

  85. Ugh…I had bit of a stuff up as a consumer pleb. Meant to get a free $20 kettle for buying a $500,000 TV or somesuch.

    Degeneracy and abject stupidity. You would not conceive to find such things 20 years ago, unless you went looking for it on a newsgroup for tranny fucking.

    Search terms in goolag news.

    good guys bonus stuff up the

    https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&biw=1440&bih=847&tbm=nws&sxsrf=ACYBGNT-sjdWeqZnoOFjRuA8CANCA2vX0A%3A1573246510478&ei=LtbFXZvzHM_Yz7sP_PeO-Ac&q=good+guys+bonus+stuff+up+the&oq=good+guys+bonus+stuff+up+the&gs_l=psy-ab.3…3537.3992.0.4122.4.4.0.0.0.0.176.176.0j1.1.0….0…1c.1.64.psy-ab..3.0.0….0.tZHjLrsdWPY

    4th article

    Can I ask trans women I’m dating about their genitals?
    Slate Magazine-21 hours ago
    Every Thursday night, the crew responds to a bonus question in chat … For this one individual, we worked through the misunderstanding, had a good laugh, and … Stoya: To start, I reached out to a trans colleague who had some great things to say … Stoya: Asking people about their genitals is rude, period.

    Really? “Are you actually a dude?” is beyond the pale? Remember, if you don’t answer it honestly, even if I penetrate you, then I would be a ripening victim.

    So instead of finding out if the company has had a run in with the ACCC in the past, I find out that trans men have a right to be shagged by straight men.

  86. calli

    They’re loving their disaster porn on Seven this morning.

    And they have their wish – a death.

  87. notafan

    How can you think about something before it happens?

    Oh wait.

    You can’t articulate your thoughts about Trump and stuff because fury.

    Pullman
    I have to be careful because my first reaction is to spout gibberish.

    Telling.

  88. Mater

    1735099
    #3206307, posted on November 9, 2019 at 7:06 am
    Another piece of history, describing “fragging”, a phenomenon unique to this particular conflict.
    From the link –

    …Most had enlisted in the service and supported the war.

    So, as opposed to your previous supposition, it really didn’t have anything to do with the draft (or draftees)?

    1735099
    #3189619, posted on October 21, 2019 at 8:03 am

    The Yanks were absolutely sending draftees as cannon fodder, and the GIs knew it, which is why, by 1970, fragging incidents in US units had become commonplace. (Nearly 900 from 1969 until 1972)*

  89. dover_beach

    I love dogs but have never warmed to pugs.

    It’s unspeakably sad how low the teaching profession has sunk.

  90. 1735099

    Rightfully, just like the Nazis, they will be hanged one day.

    Not really.
    The war finished in 1975.
    Most of the leading lights from the NVA are dead by now.

  91. notafan

    Anna Hitchings needs to attend a traditional Catholic parish.

    Usually plenty of young men in those.

    And they’re the marrying kind.

  92. Mitch M.

    Evolution or intelligent design? The story of the bacterial flagellar motor

    It is an incredible piece of kit that reminds me of the F1Fo complex in the electron transport chain. It is also a turbine, also driven by protons, that produces the energy molecule ATP. It has been estimated that through the course of a day our bodies produce ATP equivalent to our body weight. It would be interesting to study in the proteins involved because I suspect these two structures have similiar components.

    The self assembly part is intriguing. The tobacco mosaic virus can be chopped up and will reassemble into an active virus.

  93. I saw an ad for pure bred Shih Tzus on Gumtree the other day.

    $3500 a pup.

    They’ve got to be kidding. Like Joe Rogan says “dogs aren’t animals, they’re a science experiment”.

    $3500 for genetic waste.

    I could buy a rather clapped out racehorse for that price.

    Apparently you can pay $20k for a French Bulldog.

    I know I can buy a nag for that much.

  94. 1735099

    So, as opposed to your previous supposition, it really didn’t have anything to do with the draft (or draftees)?

    Obviously, there were plenty of US soldiers who weren’t all that keen in pursuing the war.
    The point of my bolding was that many changed their minds.
    The draftees already had a reason.
    As to the reasons for the enlistees changing their viewpoint after time in country, you tell me.
    But a glance at the history might provide a clue.

  95. stackja

    NSW fires in four state forests and three national parks. Hazard reduction not allowed? Save the trees for fires?

  96. Mater

    Keep tap dancing, Bob.
    You make it up as you go along.

  97. Damnable hispters.

    Fuckin’ boomers. You idiots. Stop blaming smashed avo.

    Good lord I hope this is all BS.

    https://www.petinsuranceaustralia.com.au/the-most-expensive-dog-breeds/

    20k for more science experiments.

    “How much is that doggy in the window”

    *As much as Dad’s new Hayabusa, sweetheart*

  98. cohenite

    Time for some more Dietmar and Nellia (almost as good as Tom’s toons):

  99. P

    A tune for Grater Dungberg in NC

  100. mh

    Meghan McCain to Trump Jr. on ‘The View’: ‘You and your family have hurt a lot of people’

    Said the daughter of John McCain
    https://twitter.com/GrrrGraphics/status/851534319612866560

  101. Ellie

    It’s cold in Sydney this morning, mh. Water temp at Bondi is warmer than the outside temp. I took a dip.

  102. stackja

    Ellie
    #3206374, posted on November 9, 2019 at 8:42 am
    It’s cold in Sydney this morning, mh. Water temp at Bondi is warmer than the outside temp. I took a dip.

    Climate change?

  103. mh

    Elle, I expect there would be a couple of white pointers around with those conditions.

  104. Farmer Gez

    Why are people allowed to build in heavily wooded hilly areas in a country with flora that has evolved to burn?
    Scenes from the TV news show burnt out homes in obviously dangerous areas and firefighters injured saving people living in these fire traps.
    A lot of talk about climate change action but little discussion of sensible planning laws to stop the urbanisation of the bush.
    Each year our brigade is called to put out fires around blockie homes up in the bush. Usually rubbish burnt too late or dodgy wiring of DIY builders. I wonder each time whether our safety should be put at risk to help folks that are allowed to make bad choices.

  105. Ellie

    Mh, Steve Trickler has taken over your body.

    By the way – I think those old people are all on MDMA aka ecstasy. Why are the police not strip searching them.

  106. hzhousewife

    NSW fires in four state forests and three national parks. Hazard reduction not allowed? Save the trees for fires?

    Greenies seem to misunderstand that our native vegetation thrives on fire, it is needed for germination. Why they are determined to stop our native species renewing I’ll never understand.

  107. Bruce of Newcastle

    Daniel Greenfield takes on newest Dem candidate Michael Bloomberg…

    The Socialists vs. Billionaires Democrat Primary

    On the other side of the great class divide between seven figures and ten figures, Steyer and Bloomberg are duplicative candidates. Both are old billionaires obsessed with environmentalism while projecting all the human warmth of Greta Thunberg in her native Swedish habitat. Aside from their mutual platform of banning all forms of energy that don’t depend on sunny days or windy nights, Bloomberg is also obsessed with banning sodas, salt and guns, while Steyer is fixated on impeaching Trump.

    Neither is a good fit for inheriting Biden’s base of black voters. But then neither are Warren and Sanders.

    If Biden’s campaign collapses, black voters would have to choose between four other old white people they don’t like, and Buttigieg, a candidate who consistently pulls in fewer black voters than the KKK.

    And can you imagine anything more likely to stir interest among black voters than Bloomberg, Sanders, Warren, and Steyer, arguing over which of them is more oppressed on account of having less millions?

    The good news for the socialists is that Bloomberg and Steyer’s obsession with destroying human civilization to save the planet is likely to turn off black voters even more than Sanders and Warren turning every debate into a Marxist faculty meeting at some obscure New England college.

    Brutal.

  108. min

    I am watching the news about fires in NSW where the firies were saying the fires were so bad tbey were told to just leave leave them run their course. However what I am noticing is the amount of undergrowth , knee high and dense . I hope someone puts together a record to show all those Greenies that by not allowing the clearing of undergrowth , the damage has been exacerbated , resulting deaths and loss of homes .
    I wonder how the locals handled fires more than 200 years ago when there was another drought and possibly dry lightening strikes. Just asking

  109. Ellie

    Elle, I expect there would be a couple of white pointers around with those conditions.

    Pink pointers and shriveled bits, mh.

  110. Knuckle Dragger

    Gez,

    I have no problem with people building timber homes on downslopes in heavily wooded areas with one narrow track winding its way up hill and down dale to the nearest road.

    As long as those who live in them have zero expectation of any service whatsoever by the fireys.

    It’s like putting a tent up in the middle of a freeway and having an expectation the cops will turn up and divert any traffic around them.

  111. Each year our brigade is called to put out fires around blockie homes up in the bush. Usually rubbish burnt too late or dodgy wiring of DIY builders. I wonder each time whether our safety should be put at risk to help folks that are allowed to make bad choices.

    Well,

    Let the property owners clear their land?

    Allow grazing and forestry in state forests?

    Err no. This is Australia!

  112. By the way – I think those old people are all on MDMA aka ecstasy. Why are the police not strip searching them.

    Maybe Korea has run out of their David Elliots, or the less South Korean bald headed flog.

  113. mh

    By the way – I think those old people are all on MDMA aka ecstasy. Why are the police not strip searching them.

    Uh oh. Brain bleach.

  114. Nick

    By the way – I think those old people are all on MDMA aka ecstasy. Why are the police not strip searching them.

    It takes too long for them to get dressed again

  115. struth

    Bushfires always end up doing the most damage where city folk have decided on a tree change.
    City brains meet eucalypts.

  116. Ellie

    When they get told to squat and cough … um – yes – brain bleach!

  117. Mitch M.

    By the way – I think those old people are all on MDMA aka ecstasy.

    The “U” in the happiness curve. Happy in childhood, miserable in middle age, happy in old age. Seems the grim reaper meets lots of smiling oldies.

  118. struth

    The left spent the better part of a century working for, with and towards a soviet global empire.

    From ~1990 – 2000 there was a brief let up but that was an anomaly.

    Yes you are correct.
    I should have stated the “useful idiots of the left” and not their masters who have always been dangerous commie arseholes.
    Now the sheeple of the left are all in with destroying the west as well.

  119. Knuckle Dragger

    I see the biggest fraud since Fine Cotton (and just as recognisable) is back, hitting the replay button yet again.

    Face it, Old Yeller. You are butthurt because 50 years ago you were forced to confront your inherent cowardice, and you failed. Failed to the point where your OC personally removed you from your platoon, thus making it vastly more functional.

    You had, and still have no sense of gratitude or obligation to the country that lets you rail against it.

    At the mere thought of a man like Rick Rescorla the default responses slam down like security screens at a bank. Yet you are intent on leaching every last drop of sustenance you can from the nation that gave you so much.

    You should be sending Christmas cards with scratchies in them to that company commander, Liability Bob. If he hadn’t taken the course of action he did, it’s highly likely that the first and only victim of Australian fragging in that conflict would have been you.

  120. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The Viet Minh effectively ceased to exist as an organised movement after the French were defeated at Dien Bien Phu.

    The Viet Minh were one of the signatories to the draft Geneva Accords of July 1954, which they went on to flout almost immediately.

  121. Farmer Gez

    Knuckle Dragger
    #3206386, posted on November 9, 2019 at 8:57 am
    Gez,

    I have no problem with people building timber homes on downslopes in heavily wooded areas with one narrow track winding its way up hill and down dale to the nearest road.

    As long as those who live in them have zero expectation of any service whatsoever by the fireys.

    It’s like putting a tent up in the middle of a freeway and having an expectation the cops will turn up and divert any traffic around them.
    I agree with you’re point Knuckles but there’s always kids in the homes, so we go.

  122. Mitch M.

    Rapamycin prevents age-related brain vascular deterioration in rats

    Interesting finding because loss of cerebral blood flow has been hypothesized to be an early step towards dementia.

  123. 132andBush

    1735099

    #3206311, posted on November 9, 2019 at 7:11 am

    Yesterday President Trump awarded a posthumous Presidential Citizens Medal to Rick Rescorla.

    I wonder if Fatty 5D* reflected on his own behavior at the time when Rick Rescorla earned his award.

    *Trump was deferred from service in Vietnam 5 times, and has a weight problem.

    You are a bitter, twisted and sick fuck!

    Get help.

  124. stackja

    Madeline Crittenden, Illawarra Star
    Subscriber only
    November 6, 2019 5:16pm

    Former Goulburn school Cassandra Hingeley, 39, pleaded guilty to sexually touching child between 10 and 16 years and incite child between 10 and 16 to sexually touch at Wollongong Local Court on November 6, after flirty Instagram messages lead to a late night meet up with a teenage boy.

    She will return to court for sentencing in January.

  125. Knuckle Dragger

    Four Leaf Tayback, 7.50 am;

    ‘Tet, whilst a military failure, was a political success for the Vietnamese which led eventually to the US withdrawal.’

    Note the deliberate omission of ‘North’ from that statement. Telling.

    Captain Obvious moments.

  126. Mater

    Oh…and by the way Bob, nice cherrypicking.
    Let’s examine the rest of the reference from which you so selectively quoted (starting from the last sentence you provided):

    Most had enlisted in the service and supported the war. They had attained only a low level of education and were considered “loners.” Most were in support units, given jobs for which they had not been trained, and reported little job satisfaction. They felt “scapegoated” and showed little or no remorse for their crimes. Almost 90 percent of these men were intoxicated on a wide assortment of substances at the time of the fragging, which mostly occurred at night. They admitted to little planning beyond talking to others, and most did nothing to avoid capture. Consistent with the command structure at the company and battery level, captains and first sergeants were their most common targets, and 75 percent of the perpetrators had been at some time involved in a verbal or physical altercation with their victims.

    In terms of motive, the victims were viewed as having somehow denied the offenders of something they desired, such as promotions or transfers. The victims were perceived as a threat to the offenders. Only two of the 28 offenders studied claimed race was a factor. According to the authors of the study, the easy access and use of drugs was an essential factor in the assaults. That conclusion was further buttressed in a 1976 article in the American Journal of Psychiatry by Thomas Bond, which claimed that illicit drug use, so much more common in Vietnam than in other wars, tended to reduce any inhibitions the offenders may have had about assaulting superiors.

    “Most were in support units”!
    “denied the offenders of something they desired, such as promotions or transfers.”!
    “Illicit drug use”!

    Your whole ‘fed up cannon fodder’ narrative tends to fall apart when YOUR reference is fully examined.

  127. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Your whole ‘fed up cannon fodder’ narrative tends to fall apart when YOUR reference is fully examined.’

    Bahahahaaaaa.

    Well, that’s the end of flognuts for the morning, at least.

    Unless he comes back with his standard response when he’s trapped, as he did with his ‘locked and loaded’ shitfest.

    ‘I’ll call it what I like.’

    So, in summary:

    Baaahahahaaaaa.

  128. 8th Dan

    Sick troll using the occasion marking the heroism of another to attack

    Bruce Not of Newcastle is a troll? Hope he gets well soon.

  129. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    *Trump was deferred from service in Vietnam 5 times, and has a weight problem.

    Numbers Ho had a perfectly legal, legitimate alternative to being conscripted, which he chose not to exercise. It’s all on Page 45 of Mark Dapin’s book.

  130. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘there’s always kids in the homes’

    Yeah, I get it Gez, and more strength to your arm.

    It does demonstrate the stupidity of these flogs, though, that they would deliberately put their offspring in these situations.

    I remember the bloke in Kinglake or Marysville or somewhere not long before Black Saturday. The cretins on the local council had of course banned clearing vegetation around houses because lizards, and the bloke in question told them to get fucked and did it anyway.

    Two weeks later his was the only joint standing as far as the eye could see. Can’t remember whether he was still prosecuted.

  131. John Constantine

    Augmentation of the sleep process with cpap breathing machines may be suggested to improve quality of snoozing cerebral circulation.

    Can’t make things worse.

  132. calli

    A lot of talk about climate change action but little discussion of sensible planning laws to stop the urbanisation of the bush.

    Pick the easiest.

    Why, it’s to talk.

    A little hazard reduction might go a long way, too. But that means actually doing something.

    Gretel, when you’ve finished having hysterics, take note. Squealing and blaming and paying danegeld to the UN will not stop a single bushfire. A bit of forest management and maintenance of the so called “gold plated” poles and wires just might.

  133. Bruce of Newcastle

    Dan – Numbers linked to a historical Vietnam-related story so I helpfully brought up a current Vietnam-related story. I’m helpful like that.

  134. Knuckle Dragger

    The other seven Dans rang.

    They want their retard back. Someone needs to go the shop for skyhooks and spotted paint.

  135. Boambee John

    *Trump was deferred from service in Vietnam 5 times, and has a weight problem.

    I see that the perseveration is back, as strong as ever. There seems to be little hope for a cure unless the underlying cause, which might relate to envy at another’s success in an endeavour at which the sufferer failed, can be ameliorated.

  136. Tom

    That was fun. Just watched Gretel Killeen have hysterics on Seven.

    Climate Emergency! because bushfires. How many signs do we need? sez she. We must Do Something! When Chris Smith asked her exactly what we should do she went feral.

    I hope Kerry Stokes was watching what his channel is broadcasting, Calli. Climate hysterics and their hysteria kill TV ratings.

    It’s a sign of hope that Seven has picked up Chris Smith as freelance talent since he was shafted by the clueless Nein-Fakefacts management zombies who now control 2GB.

  137. Two weeks later his was the only joint standing as far as the eye could see. Can’t remember whether he was still prosecuted.

    He was and he paid a ludicrous fine.

    https://www.smh.com.au/national/fined-for-illegal-clearing-family-now-feel-vindicated-20090212-85bd.html

    They were labelled law breakers, fined $50,000 and left emotionally and financially drained.

    But seven years after the Sheahans bulldozed trees to make a fire break — an act that got them dragged before a magistrate and penalised — they feel vindicated. Their house is one of the few in Reedy Creek, Victoria, still standing.

  138. Read the whole thing….from 10 years ago.

    At least seven houses and several sheds on neighbouring properties along Thompson-Spur road in Reedy Creek were destroyed by Saturday night’s blaze.

    Saving their home was no easy task. At 2pm on Saturday, Mr Sheahan saw the nearby hills ablaze.

    He knew what lay ahead when the predicted south-westerly change came.

    The family of four had discussed evacuation but decided their property was defensible, due largely to their decision to clear a fire break. It also helped that Mr Sheahan, his son Rowan and daughter Kirsten were all experienced members of the local CFA.

    “We prayed and we worked bloody hard. Our house was lit up eight times by the fire as the front passed,” Mr Sheahan said. “The elements off our TV antenna melted. We lost a Land Rover, two Subarus, a truck and trailer and two sheds.”

    Mr Sheahan is still angry about his prosecution, which cost him $100,000 in fines and legal fees. The council’s planning laws allow trees to be cleared only when they are within six metres of a house. Mr Sheahan cleared trees up to 100 metres away from his house.

  139. Mitch M.

    Glutamine-blocking drug slows tumor growth and strengthens anti-tumor response

    Long been known that many cancer cells use glutamine as an energy source so good to see this development. Won’t kill cancers but an important step forward. The future of cancer treatment will be two fold: attacking metabolic processes critical to cancer cell survival, and, improving the immune response. In this study one drug did both.

  140. Leigh Lowe

    Isn’t Viet Minh a noodle dish with prawns?

  141. So you’d say no to glutamine as a supplement?

    NB: I think supplements are hot trash.

  142. calli

    And heaven forbid that a Man should interrupt an hysterical woman’s sentence! The horror!

    It was most entertaining. Even the Ken and Barbie presenters hastened to change the subject, even though it was their main news headline.

    It’s sad, really. Gretel has one of the most beautiful speaking voices around. She does a lot of voiceover work, you can always pick it.

  143. stackja

    Climate change? Thredbo NSW snow, NSW north coast forest fires.

  144. Leigh Lowe

    Who is Gretel Killeen?

  145. Farmer Gez

    Watch out for the doomsayers getting tumescent over a 40 degree November record for Perth.
    Bloody freezing here in the Wimmera, no mention of a cold record.
    11.5 and feels like 7.5

  146. calli

    Just shows you how fast ecosystems can regenerate if someone puts their back into it.

    I’m really very angry about squealing idiots frightening children about so-called climate change when they should be doing practical things to improve the environment. But that takes work, not yap.

  147. John Constantine

    The nsw fires lock in rural Victoria for blackouts as the power line companies go zero risk on high fire danger days, like kalifornia.

  148. stackja

    calli
    #3206432, posted on November 9, 2019 at 9:55 am

    ABC scare campaigns and Q&A show the need to cut funding.

  149. Knuckle Dragger

    Reedy Creek. Yes.

    That’s the bloke, Frank. Appreciated.

  150. Knuckle Dragger

    Louise Ransom on Sky.

    Excellent choice for weekend newsreading. That’ll bring the crowds back.

  151. Tom

    Calli, people with beautiful speaking voices — even zombies like Gretel Killeen — can always make a living that only the 1% enjoy doing TV and radio ad voiceovers. The king of the Australian voiceover business is John Stanton whose voice is everywhere in TV and radio advertising.

  152. Miltonf

    So cats is it really true Milo has been banned from Oz? So glad I didn’t vote lieboral.

  153. Bruce of Newcastle

    Just shows you how fast ecosystems can regenerate if someone puts their back into it.

    And if you do nothing at all they will regenerate too! Weird how human intervention is now so crucial for everything. Almost like little gods, we are.

  154. stackja

    John Constantine
    #3206433, posted on November 9, 2019 at 9:55 am

    Past Blue Mountains NSW fires caused by powerlines. Greens upset by tree clearing around powerlines. Greens want trees but not powerlines. Yes nonsense.

  155. Nick

    Leigh Lowe
    #3206430, posted on November 9, 2019 at 9:52 am
    Who is Gretel Killeen?

    Leigh Lowe is CL’s much funnier sockpuppet 🙂

  156. Bruce of Newcastle

    So cats is it really true Milo has been banned from Oz?

    Yes.
    White Supremacist Milo Yiannopoulos Banned From Australia For Anti-Mu slim Rant (16 Mar)
    Weird how a gay guy who is married to a black guy can be a white supremacist.

  157. RobK

    Someone needs to go the shop for skyhooks and spotted paint.
    ….and a Long Weight.

  158. stackja

    Tom
    #3206438, posted on November 9, 2019 at 10:02 am

    ‘Lofty’ Fulton

  159. Mitch M.

    So you’d say no to glutamine as a supplement?

    NB: I think supplements are hot trash.

    I wouldn’t take it but I don’t think the risk is there. I’m not against supplements but I do more homework than most and am such a frugal eater I need to be careful about nutrient intake.

  160. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Climate change? Thredbo NSW snow, NSW north coast forest fires.

    Welcome to the future.

  161. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Isn’t Viet Minh a noodle dish with prawns?

    The prawns must be pretty lethal, it’s a dish that poisoned over a hundred thousand people in two years.

  162. Mitch M.

    Just shows you how fast ecosystems can regenerate if someone puts their back into it.

    Regenerate? Change more likely. Happens all the time but we take these snapshots are too many are left with the impression that it is all hanging in the balance and will fall apart with the slightest intervention because such people don’t understand that ecosystems are evolving systems not locked in some time warp.

  163. Ellie

    Leigh Lowe is CL’s much funnier sockpuppet 

    You are a hoot, Nick. I enjoy your sense of humour.

  164. Miltonf

    Thanks Bruce. I think the AGs department plus the latest ABC outrage shows us who really is in charge.

  165. cohenite

    Yes.
    White Supremacist Milo Yiannopoulos Banned From Australia For Anti-Mu slim Rant (16 Mar)
    Weird how a gay guy who is married to a black guy can be a white supremacist.

    David coleman did the deed, a classic bugman.

  166. Roger

    Q&A episode still up at the ABC site, apparently in defience of Ita Buttrose.

    Violence against women bad, violence against men apparently OK according to the publicly funded national broadcaster.

    Has SloMo called an inquiry into what’s going at the ABC yet?

    No; in fact a Liberal MP will appear on the show on Monday.

    Business as usual.

  167. Zyconoclast

    John Constantine
    #3206253, posted on November 9, 2019 at 1:11 am
    https://medium.com/@mariacross/why-vegetable-cooking-oils-are-as-bad-as-sugar-243ab0b6ccca

    Ross Horne pointed this out in his various Health Revolution books back in the 80s/90s

  168. stackja

    Day zero near for convoys to truck in water to Stanthorpe
    JAMIE WALKER
    theaustralian.com.au [paywallian?]
    9:00 PM NOVEMBER 7, 2019
    Having gone from fruit bowl to dust bowl in the drought, strugglin­g Stanthorpe is set to become the largest community in the country to resort to trucking in drinking water.

    The horticulture and vineyard hub on the Queensland-NSW border is already on critical water restrictions limiting its 5000 residents to 100 litres of tap water a day, and that’s not the end of it because the mains supply is on its last legs.

    This is what drought looks like when the devastation reaches all the way to town, as it is now doing in one regional centre after another in the parched west of NSW and Queensland.

    Stanthorpe is the harbinger of what’s to come if the forecasts of a long, dry summer are realised. Its only reservoir, Storm King Dam, is down to 16 per cent — fully 5m below the level that used to lap at the high and dry access platform.

  169. Knuckle Dragger

    Gretel Killeen’s environmental credentials are as follows:

    1. She hosted Big Brother ten years ago; and
    2. She has bolt-ons.

  170. Boambee John

    Mitch M at 1011

    such people don’t understand that ecosystems are evolving systems not locked in some time warp.

    I never cease to be amazed that so many people who are hot for “da science” in matters like gerbil worming are also convinced that evolution cannot occur.

  171. 8th Dan

    Bruce Not of Newcastle – I saw what you did. So did notafan, who said you were a

    Sick troll using the occasion marking the heroism of another to attack

    I thought she was wrong about you being sick.

  172. Nick

    You are a hoot, Nick. I enjoy your sense of humour.

    Shucks. You ain’t so bad yourself, kiddo.

  173. thefrollickingmole

    An actual feel good story, anyone whos spent time in the meme wars will recognize the bloke instantly.
    https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/nov/08/experience-hide-the-pain-harold-face-became-meme-turned-it-into-career

    Glad the old sod turned it to his advantage.


    Now my life has changed dramatically. People ask me to talk about my story, to demonstrate the power of memes. A football website flew me to England to make a video about Manchester City; I got to tour the ground and watch them play a Champions League game. The German mail-order giant Otto flew me out to make commercials for them. The Hungarian hard rock band Cloud 9+ have a song called Hide The Pain, with me in the video. I’m the face of Totum, the British discount card run by the National Union of Students – they got me to wear a bucket hat. I’ve even given a TED talk.

  174. Knuckle Dragger

    8th Flog,

    To state the bleeding obvious, you are once again incontrovertibly wrong.

    ‘Sick troll using the occasion marking the heroism of another to attack’

    That was Bruce, a sensible bloke by all accounts, describing your old man after he used the heroism of an actual man to deflect into his fantasy about POTUS 45.

    Put the pipe down, son. At least wait until after lunch.

  175. Tom

    Poor old Googleory. Couldn’t resist the invitation to coin another sockpuppet email address so he can join Doomlord’s troll free-for-all. Pathetic.

  176. Ellie

    Shucks. You ain’t so bad yourself, kiddo.

    See you later on today. Knock three times.

  177. Percy Popinjay

    Johannes Leak appointed cartoonist in chief at The Oz.

    Excellent news. His ol’ man would be very proud.

  178. This nonsense about unsaturated (trans really) fats has to end.

    Show me the mechanism or stop writing.

    Meat has small levels of trans fats and cis unsaturated fats.

    You’re going to eat some aldehydes and polyaromatic hydrocarbons.

    You’re going to eat/ingest/produce aldehydes if you eat anything sugary or alcoholic as well.

    The idea that cis fatty acids won’t or can’t break down into undesirable materials, let alone saturated fats won’t either is nonsense. ALL polar long chain hydrocarbons will polymerise at high temperatures.

    There is no reason why it cannot happen. Bruce can correct me but cis fats are less sterically hindered for substitution reactions. Furthermore, very long cis fats are more likely to autocatalyse.

    Get over it.

    Regarding aldehydes:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/3t902pqt3C7nGN99hVRFc1y/which-oils-are-best-to-cook-with

    People are worrying about 2 ppm v 12 ppm, of which most they drain off anyway. So you might be worried about 20 ppb v 120 bbp…or less!

    As for solvent extraction, I don’t know why ethanol and acetone aren’t used more often (think of biological cycles and closed loop systems). If you don’t want solvent extracted oil, you’re going to have to pay more as the cost per tonne of the feedstock (sunflower, safflower, canola) will go up and less can be produced per tonne of input.

  179. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    See you later on today. Knock three times.

    It’s a good thing I’m not the insanely jealous type.

  180. Wasn’t Gargoolies dying after his Grey Nurse Shark lover died after a pool ramp romp went horribly wrong?

  181. cohenite

    So Milo is banned for speaking the truth about RoP yet the banshees at q&spew are given carte blanche despite calling for violence and revolution? Didn’t some of those kunts come from overseas or were they all home grown?

  182. Bruce of Newcastle

    I’m being trolled by a troll for trolling a troll after the troll I trolled took the bait.

    Reminds of the Bee story:
    Trump Gets Dems To Interrupt Baseball, Condemn Dogs, Side With Terrorists All Within 24 Hours
    I am unworthy to untie the sneaky sneakers of the troll master.

  183. thefrollickingmole

    Unfortunately not a headline from the Babylon bee.

    London teenager was stabbed to death at knife awareness course
    Police say Hakim Sillah, who died in Uxbridge fight, was among young people at event

    Scotland Yard said a group of young people were at the appointment-only event hosted by the council-run youth offending service at Hillingdon civic centre in Uxbridge, west London, on Thursday afternoon.

    Officers were called shortly after 4.40pm to the scene, where Sillah, 18, was found with a stab wound. He was taken by ambulance to a west London hospital, where he died shortly before 5.30pm.

    A 17-year-old boy arrested on suspicion of murder was being questioned by police on Friday afternoon.

    Sounds to me like at least one of the persons there was well aware of knives.

  184. Des Deskperson

    Flying Qantas the other day and I picked up a leftover Qspirit magazine from October that someone had forgotten to replace with this month’s issue.

    Anyway, it contained a Q&A thoughts on life, love and politics by Rachel Griffiths, actor, director and one if he ‘creators’ of the current ABC drama ‘Total Control’ in which she appeared naked for a few second sin a recent episode.

    Unfortunately, I can find a link, so I am unable to display in detail the banalities of a person who is clearly nowhere near as clever, funny or original as she thinks she is, but gems include:

    What scares you? “The rise of the far right. It never ends well”

    What would you sat is the most Australian thing about you? “I worship the surf and sun and I believe in a fair society and equality of opportunity”

    If you could have dinner with two famous people, who would you choose? ” Mel Brooks and Esther Perel [who?]. We’d talk about sex and how to survive the rise of the far right and tell a lot off dirty jokes.”

  185. Knuckle Dragger

    Frank.

    The big killer, as linked to by John C earlier this morning, is of course passive transfats.

    The silent Reaper. Legislation is being drafted to ban fish and chip shops as we speak.

  186. calli

    I thought the shellfish reef was a good story.

    Regenerate vs change? On reflection, you are right, Mitch. Nothing can go back to the way it was. And if you leave a place alone, it will re-grow. It may be a bit different, but it’s there.

    The re-seeding and shell dumping had to happen to get this particular result. A stripped sand bed won’t do it.

  187. woolfe

    Climate change? Thredbo NSW snow, NSW north coast forest fires.

    Climate Catastrophe proven.

  188. EvilElvis

    Ugh…I had bit of a stuff up as a consumer pleb. Meant to get a free $20 kettle for buying a $500,000 TV or somesuch.

    Degeneracy and abject stupidity.

    Really? “Are you actually a dude

    So instead of finding out if the company has had a run in with the ACCC in the past, I find out that trans men have a right to be shagged by straight men.

    ‘Most 2019’ post of the morning prize sees Frank head the leader board at this early stage…

  189. 8th Dan

    Climate change? Thredbo NSW snow, NSW north coast forest fires.

    3 km deep ice in Antarctica, ice cubes in the beer and wine in Darwin.

  190. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Climate Catastrophe proven.

    No, just a predictable and predicted natural cycle.
    The catastrophe is peoples’ reaction to it.
    On both sides of the fence.

  191. calli

    Dinner with Brooks would be fun. The thera pist, not so much.

    If it had to be two, maybe Portillo as well.

    Crack jokes, explore politics and talk trains.

  192. Knuckle Dragger

    It is now only a matter of days before Trump’s disastrous retreat from northern Syria brings down his Presidency.

    I told you so. You were all warned. I WARNED YOU ALL RIGHT HERE ONE THIS VERY BLOG!

    /Delconmontynone

  193. lotocoti

    Welcome to the future.

    Speaking of the future, Dave is less than enthusiastic about the Emerald Isle’s future.
    A century ago, who would’ve thought the greatest threat to Irish nationalism would come from a self inflicted abomination, The Department of Communications, Climate Action and the Environment.

  194. Percy Popinjay

    Rescorla knew that a terrorist attack on the WTC was coming

    Indeed – the WTC had been bombed shortly before I was in Manhattan in’93.

  195. Mitch M.

    You’re going to eat/ingest/produce aldehydes if you eat anything sugary or alcoholic as well.

    Think about it from an evolutionary perspective. Cooking has been around for at least 1.5 million years, ample time to adapt. Low toxin levels(except heavy metals and a few others) can induce a hormetic effect. In cell culture studies it is well documented that subject a cell to some minor stress it will handle a larger stress later on. The cell generates protective processes, including increased heat shock protein production, autophagy, and proteasome activity. However you don’t want that minor stress happening all the time because it can exhaust\overwhelm the defensive strategies.

    Nearly everything we eat contains toxins. That might be a good reason why it is better to eat a wide variety of foods because while transient exposure to a particular toxin can induce hormesis chronic exposure is another matter. In the body there are many ways of dealing with toxins, from the cellular to the organ level, so a wide variety of foods has the benefits of broader nutrition and reduced specific toxin loading. For example, have a look at oxolate toxicity.

  196. Farmer Gez

    Zyconoclast
    #3206456, posted on November 9, 2019 at 10:17 am
    John Constantine
    #3206253, posted on November 9, 2019 at 1:11 am
    https://medium.com/@mariacross/why-vegetable-cooking-oils-are-as-bad-as-sugar-243ab0b6ccca

    Ross Horne pointed this out in his various Health Revolution books back in the 80s/90s

    Lots of basic errors in this health information.
    Chinese and Indian women face problems from cooking with rapeseed and mustard oils. These oils are high in erucic acid which causes the problems when frying.
    Canola oil and other oils are very low in this acid.

  197. Percy Popinjay

    18 degrees and windy in Sydneystan.

    Gerbil Worming!

  198. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘ice cubes in the beer’

    Removal of all remaining doubt it’s a hairy-shirted reality-dodger who’s never had a beer.

  199. That might be a good reason why it is better to eat a wide variety of foods because while transient exposure to a particular toxin can induce hormesis chronic exposure is another matter.

    I think that is the way to deal with this stuff, particularly with the cooking fats and oils.

  200. ‘sactly, Gez. If it’s high in euricic acid, it isn’t canola, it’s reap-seed.

  201. thefrollickingmole

    Knuckle Dragger

    In Voldemort land (it shall not be named) beer is served over (generally) one big lump of ice in your glass.

    Works well, though the ice has to be well sub zero for the best effect.

  202. Snoopy

    Trouble at mill.

    Michael E. Mann
    @MichaelEMann
    · Nov 7
    Do climate champions really think this sort of stuff is helpful?

    Quote Tweet

    Nathalie Molina Niño
    @NathalieMolina
    · Nov 7
    Dear @nature, we’re done reading the mansplaining trash from myopic white bros who do not speak for those on the front lines. @MichaelEMann has been & continues to be problematic & dated. Publishing his mediocrity isn’t a good look. #next #WomenLeadClimate https://nature.com/articles/d41586-019-02738-7

    h/t Tony Heller

  203. Mitch M.

    I thought the shellfish reef was a good story.

    Regenerate vs change? On reflection, you are right, Mitch. Nothing can go back to the way it was. And if you leave a place alone, it will re-grow. It may be a bit different, but it’s there.

    The re-seeding and shell dumping had to happen to get this particular result. A stripped sand bed won’t do it.

    Water species often have very high reproduction rates and rapid breeding cycles. Two ideal states to maximise adaptation. Consider coral. Sure it will undergo temporary depletion but it breeds in incredible abundance and so it is reasonable to expect adaptive responses to the new state of the sea, whether that be pH or temperature, in a relatively short time. Probably a few decades. It won’t be one big change, the change is probably already happening, but it will happen.

  204. calli

    I shallow fry stuff in coconut oil. Temp just enough to seal and brown, never smoking. Don’t deep fry at all. Mainly because in ‘78 I deep fried myself and haven’t been game to try it again.

    Cursed arancini 🎱 s.

  205. struth

    The Liberal party of Australia, are traitors to their constituents and to Australia as a nation.
    They are actively working against the nation and we all know it’s easily proven.
    Here on the Cat people knew straight away Sco Mo was a snake oil salesman and he would make a terrible choice as PM and would be as bad, if not worse than the very obvious and outed nation hater, Turdbull.
    The so called right wing media, were breathing a sigh of relief upon his election, we here knew was ridiculous, and again and again we are being proven correct.

    The time to act has long passed.
    To quote another political time and slogan.
    It’s time.
    Time to face up to what is going on.
    Time to stop second guessing yourself, it is worse than you thought and you won’t be able to get dead before it all happens, in so doing telling yourself not to give a shit now.
    You may die from it, but that’s a different thing.

    It’s time to Cassie of Sydney and Cardmona up, everyone.
    Twice as hard.
    Anyone feel like another truck convoy?
    The Convoy against Climate corruption?

  206. stackja

    2GB G&P just played ‘there’s a bathroom on the right’

    15. Did I mishear the lyrics of “Bad Moon Rising”? “Bathroom on the
    right?” I wasn’t drunk.

    People usually misheard the chorus “there’s a bad moon on the rise”
    as “there’s a bathroom on the right”. Today, Fogerty makes fun of it
    and purposely slips the “wrong” lyrics into the end of the song.

  207. Bruce of Newcastle

    Gerbil Worming!

    Lots of it about.

    “Incredibly Harsh Arctic Airmass” Set To Plunge Half Of US Into Record Cold (8 Nov)

    UK snow warning: Britain to blasted by SUB-ZERO Arctic storms NEXT WEEK – new graphs (8 Nov)

    Seems to be the wrong kind* of global warming.

    (Anyone who gets the reference is a climate tragic like me. 😀 )

  208. Snoopy

    Michael E. Mann Retweeted
    Jackie Turvey Tait
    @jaxturvey
    · Nov 8
    Wow. I don’t always agree with @MichaelEMann
    but his thoughtful review of Naomi Klein’s book doesn’t deserve this response. And I say this as a disabled woman from a climate-vulnerable country. #ClimateTwitter

    Quote Tweet

    Nathalie Molina Niño
    @NathalieMolina
    · Nov 7
    Dear @nature, we’re done reading the mansplaining trash from myopic white bros who do not speak for those on the front lines. @MichaelEMann has been & continues to be problematic & dated. Publishing his mediocrity isn’t a good look. #next #WomenLeadClimate https://nature.com/articles/d41586-019-02738-7

  209. calli

    It’s a different type of cold, Bruce.

  210. Nick

    I love it when millennials abhor racism and sexism, blaming it on white males, who should no longer speak.

  211. Tintarella di Luna

    Well Peter van Onsolen has outdone himself today don’t know if this has been posted so apologies if it has – here goes, in full: Headline: Boomers hang on to unsustainable old age.

    How Australia copes fiscally with an ageing population in the ­coming years needs to be discussed. It is the elephant in the room.

    Myriad self-interested commentators line up on a daily basis to argue against change: don’t touch superannuation, don’t change the ­assets test for the pension. Of course the family home must be tax exempt; death duties are the stuff of a socialist state.

    Baby boomers at or near retirement age seem to think that as long as the system sees them through the rest of their lives, everything will be OK.

    Which isn’t surprising really when you consider their similarly do-nothing obtuse attitude towards younger generations wanting action on climate change.

    While such thinking doesn’t permeate the minds of all baby boomers — apologies for the many reasonable people of that age — it does appear to be disproportionately prevalent among those with a platform to express themselves.

    But the fact is the current trajectory of a growing proportion of the population being over the age of retirement is fiscally unsustainable without policy changes. As the years go on, a declining percentage of the population will be of working age.

    Kicking the reform can down the road is weak politics.

    Our major parties like to talk about what is “fair”. But how is it fair that a couple at retirement age can earn an annual income off their investments of $200,000 tax free yet a working-age person making the same amount of money (before tax) also has to pay nearly 50c in the dollar in tax on any interest they may earn off their savings when trying to build enough for a deposit for a home?

    Or how is it fair that retirees living in multi-million-dollar dwellings can claim the taxpayer-funded pension and simply pass the property on (tax free) to their children? Especially when government-run reverse mortgages exist to allow them to fund themselves in retirement, all while somebody without asset-rich parents is forced to pay one of the highest ­income tax rates in the OECD to help fund such largesse.

    At the most recent election, Scott Morrison disingenuously argued that Labor, were it elected into government, planned to introduce death duties. Labor had no such plans and ran as far as it could from the Coalition claims. But death duties aren’t exactly the definition of a socialist panacea. Most OECD countries have them, including the US, Britain, Germany and Japan.

    It’s not as if death duties represent radical policy. In 2017 that noted left-leaning publication, The Economist, examined death taxes, pointing out just how fair they really were. Not only do they lower the amount of tax the living have to pay, death duties also help reduce inequality, which according to respected economists such as Oxford University’s Tony ­Atkinson is an inhibitor to economic growth.

    No developed nation other than Australia has a policy mix that both exempts the family home from incurring any form of taxation and avoids death duties altogether. These twin policy scripts are a sure-fire way to entrench inequality, all the more so when wage earners are hit with such high income taxes, and therefore lower economic growth.

    When all sides are telling us productivity needs to improve, the stifling effect of these policy settings acts as a handbrake on growth. These policies don’t just put fiscal pressure on the budget, with the pressure building as the nation’s ageing demographic increases. They also act as a disincentive for younger generations to continue to work in Australia.

    The brain-drain effect is significant as well-qualified high-income earners seek better opportunities overseas, moving into lower-taxing jurisdictions during their prime working lives, then returning to Australia and the generous retirement concessions on offer here.

    At this point in the article the odds are that some baby boomers have turned the page or closed their minds to what’s being said. One attack often levelled at anyone with the temerity to advocate tax changes to correct generational disadvantage is that they simply want higher taxes and hence are big-government proponents. The misplaced slur of being a socialist.

    Removing distorting tax concessions for retirees is rather different to advocating higher taxes, especially when the purpose is to reduce taxes elsewhere — the type of taxes that reduce productivity and contribute to the brain drain, for example.

    Whether it’s lower personal income taxes that act as an incentive to work, or reductions in capital gains taxes, which would be possible were death duties introduced, there are many ways to maximise the efficiency in the tax system by better targeting wealthy retirees and the dead.

    The problem, politically speaking, is that the baby boomer generation is an unusually large voting cohort.

    The high post-World War II birthrate coupled with longer life expectancy have turned baby boomers into the generation politicians chase most for votes. Hence politicians are loath to adjust baby boomers’ over-generous tax concessions. The situation is made worse when you consider the age profile of MPs. However, any politician capable of arguing their way out of a paper bag really should be able to sell reforms that include taxing the dead rather than the living. The dead don’t vote, after all. I understand people like the principle of working hard and passing on their accumulated wealth to their children. But the last time I looked that still happens in nations such as the US and Britain, where death duties have long existed.

    It is not a black-and-white debate. Surely those same defenders of building a legacy for their children, helped along by taxpayers covering the cost of their pensions, can see the benefits to their working-age children from lower income taxes that generate more spending options?

    Unfortunately, reforming the way older Australians are taxed — or more accurately not taxed — is risky business politically. And in the wake of Labor losing the unlosable election spruiking a large-scale policy manifesto, taking risks is the last thing on anyone’s mind in Canberra.

    Peter van Onselen is a professor of politics at the University of Western Australia and Griffith University.

  212. Steve trickler

    What a day these pilots had. Their voice over the radio when the shit hits the fan, is telling. They came close to death.

    10 mins. Good with a coffee.



  213. calli

    And I say this as a disabled woman from a climate-vulnerable country

    Ahahahaha! Classic.

    Sure that isn’t someone from The Bee?

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