Open Forum: November 9, 2019

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  1. JC

    Hahhahahaahhaahahaha

    Quinnipiac: Kamala Harris Polling at 1 Percent in New Hampshire

    Dream a little. Wouldn’t it be great to see the D’rat contender ending up with 1% in the general. Even then, they would try to steal the election.

  2. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    So the fuel loads grew, less than two per cent of Victoria was fuel-reduced every year …. and 173 died horrible deaths on Feb 7, 2009.
    You’re blowhard ignoramus and it’s only Doomlord’s perverse sense of charity towards the brain damaged that keeps you here.

    Was it a bird, was it a plane, no, it’s SuperAreff! A fantastic drive-by. Well done that man.

  3. egg_

    The blaming of sone bushfires on “climate change” is getting weird. Like cultish pagan weird.

    Canberratards’ Mt Stromlo Observatory was a sacrifice to Gaia/Greta.

  4. Snoopy

    Producers were aware that the sexism and objectification that defined previous Bond films could not continue, after the global movement against sexual predators gained prominence with the fall from grace of Harvey Weinstein.

    I get it. When I first saw an illustrated story of Weinstein’s ‘exploits’ the first thing that popped into my head was ‘James Bond’.

  5. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Even then, they would try to steal the election.

    Of course they would, only more so than ever. If Trump does well they always have to double down.

  6. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Mole, you are correct. If perchance the evil alliance headed by the USA had won the South East Asian War, then Vietnam might today resemble a disgusting hellhole like South Korea.

    From what’s been written in the past few years, with access to the North Vietnamese own records, Ngo Dinh Diem came far closer to crushing the Viet Cong insurgency then he was ever given credit for, so U.S. ground forces may not have been needed, after all.

  7. egg_

    Could you put more of a red flag out for the arsonists than the media has today?

    Got the shits – sitting in my suburban house on the edge of one of northern Sydney’s largest chunks of bush, and it hasn’t been burnt-off anywhere near me for at least 12 years

    Strategic management plan says “Assess requirement for prescribed burn between 10–18 years post fire (consider of bushfires and the protection of alternating broad area and edge burns).”

    Angophera bark and leaf litter is 2 feet deep

    IIRC 2003 was the last time fires encroached on Sydney with smoke detectable on the BOM’s “rainfall” RADAR.

  8. egg_

    Their new state flag is a hobo taking a dump in the street.

    Medieval times in California – the Green Dream.

  9. Rex Mango

    Snoopy, only thing for Bond to do now is bight the pillow and join the other team where being a sexual predator is par for the course. Besides, has been plenty of female Bonds already, just with different names. Charlize Theron did a female Bond recently.

  10. duncanm

    re: the Tennant Creek to Singapore brain-fart.

    it looks like state of the art is high voltage (450kV) DC (HVDC) — like the NorNed cable in Netherlands.

    Losses on this are about 4% over 600km.

    Tennant Creek – Singapore is 4000km as the crow flies.

    So useful transmission with this technology (assuming same losses per unit distance)
    = 0.96^(4000/600)=76%

    ie: ~25% loss.

    Not soooo bad.. if the energy was free (it isn’t) and the investment was small (it isn’t).

    Its just a stupid idea in every conceivable aspect.

    Indonesia could build a bunch of dams and hydro stations in any one of its mountainous, heavy-rainfall (~2m/year!) regions and produce clean energy until the cows come home.

  11. egg_

    Rewilding agricultural land means the Australian carbon cycle is reduced to only having fire as the solitary way to complete the circle.

    Rewilding means megafires.

    Can any greenfilth troll explain how rewilding works without mega fires?.

    Burn it to the ground, Comrades.

    That’s what the angry feministas want?

  12. Leigh Lowe

    Dream a little. Wouldn’t it be great to see the D’rat contender ending up with 1% in the general. Even then, they would try to steal the election.

    My dream scenario is that we see more and more crazy lefties who try to out-do each other with free stuff promises over the next six months.
    The Dimocrat hieararchy comes im over the top and nominates someone who is within coo-ee of the centre to avoid a smashing (like they nobbled Bernie for Suicide Sal in 2016).
    Lefty heads explode which encourages a crazy lefty to run as an independent.
    Result.
    Centrist Dimocrat 46%
    Crazy lefty indy 5%
    Trump 49%
    Trump wins.

  13. mh

    I wonder how many ‘sacred trees’ Australia will lose today.

    Of course the Aboriginals will be out there trying to protect them.

  14. duncanm

    egg, speaking of ‘detectable smoke’, satellite views are pretty impressive these days.

  15. Bruce of Newcastle

    It’s hot today. Tits out!

    Topless woman busted playing Frisbee wins $50K settlement

    Krokos, a 20-year-old community college student, ultimately prevailed by citing a recent 10th Circuit Court of Appeals ruling, which allows for a woman to be topless anywhere a man can be topless.

    Equality does have its compensations. Although the wind, which is building steadily at Cafe Bruce, would make frisbee accuracy harder. I’m sure I could live with that though.

  16. egg_

    Numbers,
    You say fuel reduction doesn’t work

    More leakage from their Clown Universe?

  17. stackja

    Bond saved from a woman by a woman.

    Rosa Klebb attempts to kick Bond with the poison-tipped shoe.

    Tatiana then shoots Klebb through the head with her own Beretta, killing her.

  18. Rex Mango

    duncanm, that is great link. Interesting that the biggest burnt areas are titled; Gondwana Rainforests of Australia World Heritage Area.

  19. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    build a bunch of dams and hydro stations in any one of its mountainous, heavy-rainfall (~2m/year!) regions and produce clean energy until the cows come home.

    Don’t laugh.
    In ten years or so the Indonesians may well have done just that, AND laid a cable to Oz, AND be selling us electrickery just to keep the lights on.

    Probably all financed by the Chinese, who will accept our iron ore as payment.

  20. areff

    Egg: That Canberra fire had been burning for weeks to the south — and was allowed to keep burning because current eco nostrums say fire is good, which it is, but not when other eco nostrums have allowed fuel loads to hit obscene tonnages per hectare.

  21. Cassie of Sydney

    Bravo Areff…..fantastic smackdown.

  22. egg_

    Bond saved from a woman by a woman.

    They’re now reduced to plagiarising Archer.

  23. Knuckle Dragger

    The primary reason the Sun Cable won’t work, aside from undersea cables in high seismic activity areas, energy loss over distance and the cost/benefit wash up is:

    It starts in Tennant Creek. Therefore, the site will suddenly become sacred as a giant Dreamtime meat ant hunting ground, local employment initiatives mean it will be alternatively ignored, inadvertently burned down and deliberately burnt down and then finally be blown up when the handful of whitey tradies in the town decide to try and harness it to power up their latest skunk crop.

  24. duncanm

    Indeed Rex.

    The biggest risk to my life and home is currently the NSW National Parks.

  25. egg_

    That Canberra fire had been burning for weeks to the south — and was allowed to keep burning because current eco nostrums say fire is good, which it is, but not when other eco nostrums have allowed fuel loads to hit obscene tonnages per hectare.

    They feared Mt Stromlo Observatory would go up in flames – and it did.
    It’s currently being refurbished but it was a Century old optical telescope – brass, etc. melted in the heat.

  26. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Their Doctors Wives set and the would-be’s – a Mind Body Spirit thing – It’s the vibe.
    A chatel to carry around, like a miniature poodle pup in a handbag.

    You are so right. I was supposed to be attending an afternoon tea up Palm Beach way today, but yesterday the hostess called and cancelled it; due to the terrible climatic conditions and the Great Fear. I’d already told her I was happy to come on that day as I saw no reason to panic, and she knows I am ‘an unbeliever’ in Gaia’s fury, but some very woke locals of the poodle carrying sort had got to her, and presto, cancelled! Suits me actually as I have other things to do, dousing all our door handles and power points with Pine-o-Clean Wipes and bleaching the bathroom my son was using, plus hot washing all the bedclothes and sheets, as it seems my son’s wife is now ill with gastro too, and what they both have is a rotovirus – so cruise-ship cleaning measures are now needed at ours.

    I made it safely to Randwick and back from the Prince of Wales Hospital dropping off my son with his broken arm and Leper’s card, in spite of the whole area round there being on nominated Climate Emergency standby. Councils should just start chain-sawing off the canopies of a few overgrown trees and clearing up underneath in growing scrub. That’d fix it.

    Some years ago in the nineties there was a Great Conflagration in Sydney’s northern suburbs. It was around the time that the Kuringai CAE, with its proud ‘native untampered bush garden’ with dead debris up to the walls of the place nearly went up, set like a tinder box. This CAE revised their garden after this, lol. Also I recall on the news that night – a big area of bushland on the corner of Wahringah Road and the Wakefield Parkway flared up supremely, cut the road and startled the locals. It made stunning TV. No-one mentioned climate change then though, just the Council orta do something. You can still see a faintly burned trunks on the few trees that are now left there, as development has moved into the site.

  27. Rex Mango

    ZK2A, think it safe to say in any war that lasts more than a year and the South Eastern Asian one went on and off for decades, that both sides at some point get very close to winning. Outcome could all have been decided by one grumpy conscript.

  28. feelthebern

    Anyone notice how happy Melania Trump is looking these days.
    Her smile is from ear to ear.
    Zero media coverage.

  29. egg_

    very woke locals of the poodle carrying sort

    Is there any other kind?

  30. RobK

    It’s hot today. Tits out!
    We have anecdotal evidence from a comment yesterday that this kind of thing can cause traffic accidents, especially by less experienced drivers.

  31. Rex Mango

    Bout to brave the elements & venture into the mouth of the furnace to grab lunch. Might check fire conditions on the ground in Hyde Park and do a koala count too. Plenty of fellow office workers are spooked by this emergency & phoning home etc. Can well remember Ash Wednesday 83 and riding my bike to school when 45deg that day. Climate has cooled since then is my lived experience.

  32. Mother Lode

    Any Port in a (fire)storm.

    I will give you two bottles if you walk off into one.

  33. mh

    More on the topless frisbee story

    Effie Krokos was playing a game in her fiance’s yard when she became overheated – prompting angry neighbours to call the cops.

    An upset neighbour called police. How silly. It’s not like the frisbee kept going over the neighbour’s fence.

    https://www.news.com.au/finance/money/costs/woman-charged-with-indecent-exposure-over-naked-frisbee-game-wins-massive-settlement/news-story/8204b2346a8b7b6347e1444e9dfd8b6b

  34. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Her smile is from ear to ear.

    Well, ‘Bern,
    You have to remember that until recently Trump was busy running a multi-billion dollar business enterprise, and he probably didn’t have much free time to spend with her.

    But now that he’s delegated all that hard stuff to his kids and has taken up running America as a hobby, he would have a lot more time to devote to making Melania happy.

  35. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    this kind of thing can cause traffic accidents, especially by less experienced drivers.

    Yes.
    If you’re lucky like I was.

  36. Eyrie

    We are going to have burn offs. It is just a matter of whether they are planned or beyond our control.
    At least some of the National Parks will hopefully not be a problem for a while after this.

  37. Cassie of Sydney

    Lizzie…I am in Perth at the moment….are fires raging in Centennial and Cooper Parks?
    I heard that Woollahra Council has declared a fire emergency….bracing for catastrophic fires…must be those trees on Queen and Ocean Streets!

  38. Des Deskperson

    ‘They feared Mt Stromlo Observatory would go up in flames – and it did.
    It’s currently being refurbished but it was a Century old optical telescope – brass, etc. melted in the heat.’

    Decades of irreplaceable hard copy observatory records – not digitised – also burnt, a catastrophic loss according to one distraught astronomer I spoke to.

    Speaking of ‘proud native untampered bush gardens’, as opposed to ‘eurocentric’ ‘colonialist’ lawns and flowerbeds, whether one had the former or the latter was a key factor in whether one’s property was destroyed or survived on 18 January, 2003, at least around my way

  39. Bubbles

    RobK.
    Exactly. When the arrogant unionised firies moved into our RFS, it all fell apart. Vollies quit in large numbers, largely due to the threatening nature of debriefs and constant interference by the pyromarxists (as we called them). It has left a hole in the community because RFS was a social as well as a service body. Most of our vollies had vastly more experience than than the union thugs.
    Fire and ambo services are lefty political gangs that must be privatised before they bankrupt us. ‘Fireman Sam’ is about as credible as the bikies Christmas toy run.

  40. Mother Lode

    No Time To Die is due to be released in April.

    And in the bargain bins by May.

    And Netflix will spend $100 million getting the rights to it since it is the first Bond film they feel comfortable with.

    I think it really will take no time to die.

  41. Rex Mango

    Fire Report Hyde Park Environs. Can report the Hyde Park Koala Colony is in very bad shape and needs to be placed on the critically endangered list. No sign of smoke/fire either and wind quite gentle at moment. Current status; Catastrophic.

  42. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Rewilding agricultural land

    Stupidest thing ever. Beautifully cleared pastureland up and down our coastal fringes where rainfall is regular and the land is good for growing is now being put back to drying out due to eucalypt overgrowth and unplanned big burn ups of an overladen understory. Meantime, the glorious coastal rolling green vistas of previous dairy grazing land becomes the dull thud of weed eucalypts boringly everywhere in an unrelenting impress on the brain.

  43. struth

    Is it true that UN councils are declaring fire emergencies before the fire starts?

  44. feelthebern

    How many heritage listed properties will be torched today?
    By the bush fires 100kms away of course.

  45. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    pyromarxists (as we called them)

    That’s one for the keeper, Bubbles.

    I hope you are still safe and returned to your home. Thanks for the updates on the problems caused by the eco-firies.

  46. Eyrie

    Eucalypts should be declared noxious weeds and eradicated.

  47. John Constantine

    Malcom Roberts comes up with:

    ” Okay Doomer”

    as a response to adam bandt.

  48. struth

    HHHHHHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
    HHHHHHHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

    ZE great profit Ztruth is about to make a prediction, as he has been sitting here quietly gazing into his b a l l s.

    “Zer next Bond Film will not only be a massive flop at ze box orifice, due to disinterest, but from wilful avoidance”
    “Zey Vill feel like Ze American footballers who dropped a knee”

    HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
    HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

    You heard it first, here.
    I, struth will refuse to let the film be viewed in my home as well, when it hits the television a month or two after release.

  49. will

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    gg_
    #3209546, posted on November 12, 2019 at 12:29 pm
    That Canberra fire had been burning for weeks to the south — and was allowed to keep burning because current eco nostrums say fire is good, which it is, but not when other eco nostrums have allowed fuel loads to hit obscene tonnages per hectare.

    They feared Mt Stromlo Observatory would go up in flames – and it did.
    It’s currently being refurbished but it was a Century old optical telescope – brass, etc. melted in the heat.

    Didn’t Bob Carr sack the forester who was doing some back burning some time before that? As Jo-Nova’s graph shows, it as about that time that control burns became far fewer.

  50. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Lizzie…I am in Perth at the moment….are fires raging in Centennial and Cooper Parks?
    I heard that Woollahra Council has declared a fire emergency….bracing for catastrophic fires…must be those trees on Queen and Ocean Streets!

    Well, as I said, I made it to the hospital this morning but it was touch and go. Well, that was the traffic, but never mind, it will do for a little panic all of its own.

    Gaia has been pacified sufficiently by a mouthful of carbin credits to lay off Queen Street and Ocean Street, but naturally the good burghers are worried, and climate catastrophe is on all lips. Hairy is out shopping and will soon bring in a report from the cafes near Double Bay Woollies. They are doubling down on the vegan salads in order to stave off the bushfires, but will it be enough?

    Attapuss is gloriously unconcerned. I am taking my cues from him. No worries at all about any of it, even in the parklands. 🙂

  51. Snoopy

    At long last! A good news story from TheirABC.

    Key backer of Syrian ‘White Helmets’ James Le Mesurier found dead in Istanbul

  52. struth

    Motherlode also has psychic abilities…………………..I see.
    I knew she was going to say that.
    No really, I did.

    HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

  53. Snoopy

    Michael Rowland in Taree auditioning for Ultimo’s Village People tribute group. Apparently.

  54. Mother Lode

    I knew she was going to say that.
    No really, I did.

    What am I thinking now?

  55. thefrollickingmole

    Holy smoking catshit batman….

    This should be tattooed on Bob Brown and the gang-greens foreheads.
    Read The Whole Thing
    https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2019/11/france-spent-less-on-nuclear-to-get-about-double-what-germany-gets-from-renewables.html
    France’s nuclear energy spending was 60% of what Germany spent on renewables. France gets about 400 Terawatt hour per year from nuclear but Germany gets 226 Terawatt-hours each year. 45 Terawatt-hours of Germany’s renewable power comes from burning biomass which generates air pollution.

    Germany’s solar farms will have to be rebuilt every 15-25 years. The wind farms will need to be rebuilt every 20-25 years. Nuclear plants can last 40-80+ years. This means that it guaranteed that the solar and wind farms will have to be rebuilt in 15-25 years. The maintenance costs will increase as wind turbines or solar panels are replaced. The old turbines and solar panels will need to be replaced.

    France completed construction on 76% of its current 58 reactors at an inflation-adjusted cost of $330 billion (€290 billion). The complete buildout of the 58 reactors was less €400 billion. Germany has spent about €500 billion over the last 20 years to get to 35% renewables. 7% of this is burning biomass. France gets almost double the TWh from nuclear than Germany gets from renewables (solar, wind, biomass, hydro). France has gotten about 400 TWh per year from nuclear while all of Germany’s renewables (solar, wind and biomass) amounts to about 220 TWh.
    ….
    Germans now pay 30 euro cents per kwh. the French pay 18 euro cents per kwh.

  56. Knuckle Dragger

    Every Greens voter should get their wish today, and be chained to a big old eucalypt knee high in leaf litter and deadfall.

    Then they can get up close and personal with the tree as its resin builds to combustion point, and because most of it’s still trapped in the tree the whole thing explodes.

    Yes. Explodes.

  57. cohenite

    From fuckedfacts:

    ‘Australia must stop selling coal’: Branson calls for climate ‘revolution’

    Alternatively branson must shove a stick of gelignite up his arse and whistle Dixie.

  58. Knuckle Dragger

    Knee? Tree, dammit.

    I blame the Great Heat.

  59. feelthebern

    Michael Rowland in Taree

    I wonder if he’s staying at an airbnb in Purfleet.

  60. Boambee John

    Will at 1307

    Didn’t Bob Carr sack the forester who was doing some back burning some time before that? As Jo-Nova’s graph shows, it as about that time that control burns became far fewer.

    The offending individual had cleared a firebreak to either side of a high voltage power line. Boob Carr described this in words like “Appalling environmental vandalism”, and had him sacked.

    Come the Canberra fires, that firebreak helped confine the fires in the Brindabellas.

    Carr neither gave him his job back, nor apologised to him.

    @rseh0le that Boob Carr is!

  61. egg_

    arrogant unionised firies moved into our RFS

    Methinks Mu llins from the climate mob is a woke Fiery David Morrison window dressing type.

  62. struth

    What am I thinking now?

    HHHHHHHHHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

    You are thinking that whatever I say you are thinking you are just going to deny it.

  63. Zatara

    ….so U.S. ground forces may not have been needed, after all.

    Had the US mined Haiphong in 1965 the war would have been over.

  64. feelthebern

    Zatara!
    How dare you!

  65. Top Ender

    Just had cause to check out DFAT for a comment under the Oz’s daily Aged Care inquiry article.

    the Foreign Aid budget is:

    Pacific $1.4b
    Southeast and East Asia $1b
    South and West Asia $266.2m
    The Middle East and Africa $199.8m
    Humanitarian Assistance $450m
    Gender Equality Fund $55m
    Climate Change $200m

    in 2020 dollars.

    But stuff old people!

  66. egg_

    None
    #2844105, posted on October 19, 2018 at 7:49 pm
    Hi Septimus.

    Oh egg. Look who’s Dot, your bum buddy. He’s jealous you’re getting a little action without him. Then again he doesn’t like to out himself too much; he prefers cottaging.

    The Nonebot claimed to be a nurse from Victoria.
    Grigs claimed to be a field medical type, making odd remarks to nurses about cannibalism during lunch.
    “The beat”, “cottaging” – intimate knowledge, Grigs?

  67. struth

    Funding the ABC should also come under foreign aid.

  68. Some History

    Jane Carosene has blown a “climate crisis” gasket.

    The ‘bloody disgrace’ is 30 years of inaction on climate change led by those on the right and their hysterical continuing denial in the face of incontrovertible evidence and actual catastrophe.

    https://twitter.com/JaneCaro/status/1193754492048560128?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

    Just met a lovely, smart man who believes in god and so doubts that climate change is caused by humans. Is belief in a god what will destroy the world? My heart sinks.

    https://twitter.com/JaneCaro/status/1193801876229111808?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

  69. Arky:

    The only solution to the problem you have created is to bulldoze the entire continent and start again.
    After you have ridded the landscape of every tree your first step, (after selling off the koalas) is to use hydrogen bombs to geo- engineer some proper waterways, and a system of inland lakes.
    Then re-introduce some proper tree species.

    Exactly right.
    It’s the bloody eucalypts that are the problem, get rid of them.
    Not too sure about the H Bombs, though.
    Good thinking using them outside the city limits – a couple of dozen 100 Mt will scoop that Lake Eyre right out.

  70. Some History

    So, if our politicians think ‘politicising’ climate change as fires rage is wrong, they must have been outraged when John Howard & the late, great Tim Fisher ‘politicised’ gun control after Port Arthur. I, on the other hand, think they saved many thousands of lives…

    https://twitter.com/JaneCaro/status/1194019820674547712?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

  71. Zatara

    Zatara!
    How dare you!

    OMG, I hadn’t considered certain posters might have been de-franchised by facts

  72. egg_

    the Tennant Creek to Singapore brain-fart

    Is there some new hallucinogenic out there that someone’s cooked up in a Lab?
    Wheredoyageddit?

  73. egg_

    Jane Carosene has blown a “climate crisis” gasket.

    Oh good.
    All we need is the dreaded heat, blackouts and fires to bring the lizard people out.

  74. struth

    Jane dear, go and study the word Hysteria.
    Oh the fear in women’s hearts.

  75. Some History

    And now a message from Sewer Central. Thus spake the crap artist extraordinaire Dillary Klinton.

    HILLARY CLINTON SAYS MALE LEADERS ARE ‘SCARED’ OF GRETA THUNBERG

    Hillary Clinton has said that male politicians are “scared” of 16-year-old climate activist Greta Thunberg.
    The former US secretary of state made the comments on Sunday night at the Southbank Centre’s Royal Festival Hall whilst promoting a new book she has written with her daughter Chelsea.
    The Book Of Gutsy Women: Favourite Stories Of Courage And Resilience focuses on the women who have inspired the mother and daughter, and features Thunberg, whose solitary climate strike outside the Swedish parliament in 2018 left them “so moved”.
    “It’s been fascinating to watch how scared a lot of grown up male leaders are of this young 16-year-old girl who speaks up about the threat of climate change,” she said.
    Clinton added that a young woman speaking her opinions still had the power to “rattle” the “ancient DNA” that still perpetuates throughout society.
    “It is maddening to think how much that still operates,” she said.
    “You could probably take some of the people who have been so critical of her [Greta] on social media and in other settings, attach them to a lie detector and say ‘don’t you think that’s a bit sexist’”.
    Chelsea said that people in the US are attacking Thunberg because they cannot attack the science surrounding climate change.
    “More broadly, her [Thunberg’s] real clarity and fearlessness and just being so unbowed and relentlessly focused on the future I think is incredibly threatening to a lot of people,” she said.
    The panel discussion was chaired by historian Mary Beard, who also appears in the book alongside Billie Jean King, Malala Yousafzai and Florence Nightingale.
    Clinton also shared her concerns for the future of politics in both the US and UK, stating that she had “always admired Britain”.
    “I am, as a great admirer, concerned because I can’t make sense of what is happening.
    In a swipe at President Trump, Clinton added: “We have a president who admires dictators and takes their help and does all kinds of crazy stuff.
    “We need you to be the sane member of this partnership going forward,” she said.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/love-sex/men-women/hillary-clinton-greta-thunberg-trump-gutsy-women-book-mary-beard-a9198316.html

  76. Stackja:

    “Blue Mountains City Council’s principle concern is the inadequacy of the environmental impact assessment process to date, including the assessment of impacts on World Heritage, Aboriginal Cultural Heritage and the ecological values of the Greater Blue Mountains National Park.

    These are the people who need to be treated to a complete breakdown of their water and power supplies for a month just to beat some common sense into their heads.
    They are truly representational of the NIMBY mindset who would deny these essential services to others, but would be screaming blue bloody murder on day two of it happening to them.

  77. Cassie of Sydney

    Funny how the left now refer to Fisher as the “late, great Tim Fisher”…..I remember how they used to mock him and sneer at him constantly.

  78. Funny how the left now refer to Fisher as the “late, great Tim Fisher”…..I remember how they used to mock him and sneer at him constantly.

    Compared to the current shower, he was an intellectual giant.

  79. Mother Lode

    You are thinking that whatever I say you are thinking you are just going to deny it.

    Ummmm…Nope!?

  80. Percy Popinjay

    Is there a more tin eared pack of drooling cretins blighting this planet than the imbeciles infesting their beloved ALBPC?

    Unfriggingbelievable:

    Tracey Spicer presents a revelatory series exploring how #MeToo is changing Australia. She speaks to ordinary Australians who bravely share their experiences and looks at how the system must be reformed.

    John Jarrett and Geoffrey Rush were presumably unavailable for comment.

  81. RobK

    Yes. Explodes
    They do. I have seen pieces of pine trees a few metres long and 10-20cm diameter land over 500m away from a pine plantation exploding on a catastrophic day. My brother managed to photograph this thing descending from great height out of the black sky. It burst into flames as it found clear air and landed in his paddock. Amongst the roar is the sound of exploding trees. Bridgetown, WA.Jan 2009.

  82. John Constantine

    Their lefty obesosphere really sinking their teeth into their fire emergency.

    Comrades.

  83. Cassie of Sydney

    Compared to you Monty Munchkin…….Fisher was an intellectual giant.

  84. Some History

    Tremble… TREMBLE ye mortal men in the presence of Greta™ the Incredible. [tee hee hee]

  85. The Beer Whisperer

    The incredible heat™ is worse than I ever imagined.

    I just went outside for lunch and it reminded me of 3am in Ivanhoe every night for a fucking month.

    Clearly, the catastrophic fires are invisible to the naked eye, satellites and the arsonists that couldn’t be bothered this time.

  86. The Beer Whisperer

    Shall we call us sceptics Ungretables?

  87. Zatara

    Yes. Explodes

    Try being shelled in a pine forest. It’s a whole new world of oh feck.

  88. Some History

    It seems that qwerty and the qwerty-aligned are terrified of Margaret Court:

    LGBTQI+ community surprised by decision to invite Margaret Court to open regional tennis centre

    A regional sporting club in Western Australia has come under fire following its decision to invite Margaret Court to open its new tennis centre.
    Court is one of the world’s greatest tennis players but has been heavily criticised for her comments on same-sex marriage, including drawing comparisons between the gay community and Hitler.
    Her views have previously prompted calls for the Margaret Court Arena in Melbourne to be re-named.
    The former world number one tennis star is set to cut the ribbon at the new multi-million dollar Busselton Tennis club later this month.
    It is a move that has divided the community on social media.
    Transgender local Suzanne Aston said she was worried about the impact of Court’s divisive views on the community.
    “I’m not a big fan of that level of hate coming to Busselton and coming to the community [where] I live,” Ms Aston said.
    “She will split the community again, as she has done elsewhere.
    “It’s a great shame because she has some fantastic achievements behind her.”
    Head of LGBTQI+ advocacy group Out South West, David Rhodes, said he was surprised Court had been invited to the event.
    “I find it unusual that she’s been invited into a regional area to open $4 million dollar tennis centre with that sort of controversy over her head at the moment,” Dr Rhodes said.
    “That’s a rather polarising thing to do when you would want the whole community to be coming together to celebrate this construction.”

    RTWT

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-11-11/lgbtqi-community-surprised-by-decision-to-invite-margaret-court/11694320

  89. Val Majkus

    doing the rounds on facebook

    BLACK THURSDAY BUSHFIRES – 6th Feb 1851

    In preparing for tomorrow’s extreme conditions, it’s important to look at history to understand how bad things can get.

    Australia’s most extensive Bushfires were known as the ‘Black Thursday’ Bushfires, where on the 6th Feb 1851 (Co2 levels 285ppm) when the temperature hit an incredible 117°F (47.2°C) at 11am in Melbourne, and quarter of Victoria, 5 million hectares in total were burnt out (10 times more than from the current Bushfires in NSW). 12 lives were lost and one million sheep and thousands of cattle where lost.

    Thomas McCombie recorded the scene in Melbourne on that day:

    “For two months preceding, the country had been under the desiccating winds, which appeared to be highly charged with electricity. The herbage was parched up, and everything that the eye could rest upon was dry, dusty, and disagreeable. The 6th of February dawned much as very hot days generally do; the roseate tints of the horizon were rather brighter and more lurid than usual – the glassed glare over the sky more vividly perceptible. The north wind set strongly in early in the morning, and by eleven o’clock in the fore-noon it had increased to almost a hurricane.

    ‘’In the streets of Melbourne the heat was intense, and the atmosphere densely oppressive. Clouds of smoke and dust hung over the city. The fires which blazed in the surrounding country no doubt increased the suffocating sensation which was generally experienced. It was hardly possible to go abroad; the streets were nearly deserted; and a few of the persons who were compelled to make the effort to traverse them stalked along with their faces closely enveloped in cloth; no man, however bold, appeared able to face the furiously-suffocating blast, which seemed to wither up their physical energies. By noon, the inhabitants, generally, had shut themselves up in their various dwellings, too happy to have got out of the reach of the overpowering blast. They continued to sit until night listening in terror to the howl of this real sirocco. Had any portion of Melbourne ignited the whole of the city must have been reduced to ashes, as no effort of the inhabitants could have prevented the conflagration from extending and becoming general. The citizens were providentially preserved from so terrible a disaster.”

    Catastrophic Bushfires hit Victoria again in 1898 (Co2 levels 295ppm) know as ‘ Red Tuesday’ when fires burned 260,000 hectares in South Gippsland. Twelve lives and more than 2,000 buildings were destroyed.

    In 1939 (Co2 levels 311ppm) the 13th Jan became known as ‘Black Friday’, the fires in Victoria burned 1.5 to 2 million hectares, they killed 71 people and destroyed more than 650 buildings.

    In 1944 (Co2 310ppm) levels fires in the Western Districts of Victoria destroyed more than 500 houses and caused huge losses in the pastoral industry. Four or more grass fires near Hamilton, Dunkeld, Skipton and Lake Bolac burned about 440,000 hectares in eight hours. Between 15 and 20 people died. The total area covered by grass fires that season was about one million hectares.

    In 1962, (318ppm) Fires in the Dandenong Ranges and on the outskirts of Melbourne killed 32 and destroyed more than 450 houses.

    In 1965, (320ppm) fires the in Gippsland burned for 17 days, covering 300,000 hectares of forest and 15,000 hectares of grassland. More than 60 buildings and 4,000 stock were destroyed.

    In 1969, (324ppm) Two hundred and eighty fires broke out on the 8th Jan, Twelve reached major proportions and burned 250,000 hectares. Twenty-three people died, including 17 motorists at Lara, trapped on the then highway between Geelong and Melbourne. The fires also destroyed 230 houses, 21 other buildings and more than 12,000 stock.

    In 1977, (333ppm) widespread fires occurred across the Western District of Victoria. The fires killed four people and burned about 103,000 hectares. More than 198,500 stock, 116 houses and 340 other buildings were also lost.

    In 1983, (342ppm) the 16th Feb became known as ‘Ash Wednesday’ more than 100 fires burned 210,000 hectares and killed 47 people. More than 27,000 stock and 2,000 houses were lost.

    That’s just Victoria.

    And to think, that the Greens have the anti-sciencific superstitious belief that we can stop Bushfires by importing more solar panels from China. These people are not only demented, they have a complete ignorance of Australia’s history. But then again they are perhaps just the worst of dishonest liars, exploiting tragedy and spreading untruths for their own political gain.

  90. Bruce of Newcastle

    I’m sad for poor Greta.
    She’s the very tip of a whole machine of hate.
    Her wretched parents and teachers are the worst.
    If she manages to survive to age 30 I’ll be surprised.
    On the other hand if Jesus could save the poor guy in the graveyard he can save Greta too.

  91. John Constantine

    Former federal trade minister Andrew Robb is quietly raising capital from foreign investors, local trading houses and superannuation funds to build a $750 million agricultural investment fund.

    The Robb Agricultural Fund, in partnership with investment manager Ellerston Capital, 25 per cent owned by the Packer family’s Consolidated Press Holdings and run by experienced fund manager Ashok Jacob, aims to help unlock the untapped potential of Australia’s family farms.

    Mr Robb, who last week said the official launch of his Ag Fund remained a few weeks away, believes the production of most farms can be doubled with access to the right capital and know-how. The former Liberal cabinet minister — also a previous chief executive of the National Farmers Federation and an agricultural economist by profession — is on a mission to link the best Australian farmers with large amounts of capital, some of it foreign, to allow them to expand.
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    He says with the demand for premium Australian food and farm produce soaring — with a focus on authenticity, provenance and safe food production — there are also opportunities to invest in the agritech industry.

    Mr Robb also wants to explore opportunities for farmers to sign long-term sale contracts for their produce with buyers — as is common in the mining industry — to mitigate the risks of agriculture.

    “I want to unlock production because I think with the right informed capital and greater certainty along the whole supply chain we can double the production of everything we produce in Australia over time,” Mr Robb said. “This proposition is open to private equity capital; I want to see if we can use these funds not necessarily to [own the full value of assets] but to add value.”

    Mr Robb — who successfully completed three bilateral trade agreements between Australia and China, South Korea and Japan that are proving pivotal to greater agricultural prosperity — is on the board of Gina Rinehart’s Kidman cattle empire, and has spent many weeks locking in a deal for the larger Rinehart Hancock pastoral business to export up to 800,000 live cattle to China.

    Mr Robb is also a consultant to the Seafarms group, which is trying to build a $2bn prawn farm near Kununurra and, more contentiously, to the Chinese Landbridge Group, which had been granted a 99-year lease on the Port of Darwin

  92. bespoke

    They predicted 35 we got 17.

  93. Some History

    Some sports folk weigh in on the Marg Court “furore”. Mark Taylor lets loose a beauty:

    Taylor replied: “Diversity/inclusion means you’ve got to include Margaret Court.”

    Paul Gallen weighs in on Margaret Court furore, ahead of bout at Melbourne arena

    https://wwos.nine.com.au/news/paul-gallen-barry-hall-fight-margaret-court-same-sex-debate-mark-taylor/f667d336-9bea-4a4b-8ddb-7ba4360169c8

    What a mess!!

  94. Knuckle Dragger

    No worries.

    On the basis of the treatment meted out to Court, we must wipe Bradman from the books due to his staunch Protestantism.

    His anti-Mick bigotry caused actual harm, unlike Court as the Don kneecapped the careers of more than one bloke with the potential to be an Invincible.

    There is also a school of thought and at least one book that claims he developed a mystery condition that prevented his enlistment in WW2, but somehow didn’t affect his batting.

    Fighter pilot, raconteur and pants man Keith Miller was said to be less than impressed with this state of affairs.

  95. Ban eucalypts?

    What about the lillypilly (not sure about the spelling) in my back yard.
    A match near it, is instant ignition. Lawd knows what is in the leaf. Something with an unhealthy flashpoint.

  96. twostix

    Liberals and Nationals blaming “greenies” is a thing but a little lazy. “Greenies” in QLD have 0 seats in the legislature, so how does that work is the easy retort.

    They’re going to have to do the hard yards – which should have started 20 years ago – of explaining how the CSIRO, National Parks Depts and some councils have been captured by rigid ideological lunatics – we’re only talking maybe 200 – 300 people scattered across various departments in total. So far the urban everyman has just ignored their lunacy for the last 20 years because the decisions they make and have made over the last 20 years don’t affect most people outside the regional and rural areas.

    Let’s take National Parks. Anyone who lives near one or spends lots of time in the lesser parks (as opposed to the ten or so showy, curated, tourist parks), knows that the policy for the last 20 years is “wilderness” – meaning most of the lesser national parks are to be brought back to a state of being untouched and untouchable by man. So there has been a relentless campaign of gates going up across century old fire trails which are deliberately left to degenerate, 100+ year old historic bridle tracks ripped up and generally a campaign of closing the people out of them. This includes nasty little actions like demolishing and cutting off access to local historic points of interest – that locals usually have personal connection to, banning locals from their century+ old traditions of scavenging firewood from them, etc.

    “In 1994 there were 328 national parks covering 4 million hectares of NSW. Under Labor Premier Bob Carr’s policies by 2006 there were 770 national parks covering 6.6 million hectares. Wilderness protection was also expanded from 650,000 hectares in 1994 to 2 million hectares in 2006. National parks now cover 8.8% of New South Wales and approximately 30% of national parks is wilderness.”

    I hope people understand what they mean by “wilderness”. They literally mean no human activity, including aboriginal in that space. What that means is they are creating something completely new that has never existed in the last 10,000 years+ in this country.

  97. Rex Mango

    Sydney sitting on nice comfortable 35deg. This climate catastrophe reminds me of the last time I went out at night to watch the Leonid Meteor Shower.

  98. Rex Mango

    PS Barry Hall will smash Gallen.

  99. feelthebern

    PS Barry Hall will smash Gallen.

    Fact check: True.

  100. cohenite

    PS Barry Hall will smash Gallen.

    But Gallen was making a lot of sense, Taylor too, against some self-righteous fuckwits who thought Court was out of fucking touch; Hall and Gallen should touch up the lot of them.

  101. They’re going to have to do the hard yards

    They’ve been in power in NSW at state and national levels for the last six years… what indication do you have that they are capable of doing hard yards? They can’t even pull a Hawkie and drink from a yard glass.

  102. calli

    Court is one of the world’s greatest tennis players but has been heavily criticised for her comments on same-sex marriage, including drawing comparisons between the gay community and Hitler.

    That’s a new one.

    Are they mistaking Court for Leak?

  103. Gallen was making a lot of sense

    Gallen is a live experiment in how many times you can get punched in the head before you start making sense. So far, no signs of intelligence. The tests continue.

  104. twostix

    All roads on this lead back to about 200 – 300 people in a couple of departments in Australia who operate hand in glove with their preferred party: the Greens who have zero representation in parliament and so should have zero power in the public service.

    They need to be named and outed.

  105. Some History

    Gallen is a live experiment in how many times you can get punched in the head before you start making sense. So far, no signs of intelligence.

    And what’s your excuse, Mont? 🙂

  106. twostix

    m0nty you have nothing to offer this place until you tell us you’ve apologised to your family for neglecting them for close to three years while you were frantically and relentlessly posting on an internet blog (this blog) about some weird conspiracy theory about the president of the US being a Russian spy.

    Do that.

  107. calli

    You don’t have to be in power to make huge changes to forest management, zoning and building restrictions.

    All you need is to be a grunt in local council as an (insert department name here) Officer. When time comer for recommendations for changes to DAs, you can push your own green agenda.

    And they do.

    It’s death by a thousand cuts.

  108. It all comes down to shadowy cabals with you lot, every time. It’s as if your minds aren’t capable of grasping any concept more complex than a conspiracy theory.

  109. I have a task for you, 26. Show me a place in Australia where it rained yesterday.

  110. Rex Mango

    Rained in my shower this morning.

  111. feelthebern

    Show me a place in Australia where it rained yesterday.

    On your parade?

  112. thefrollickingmole

    m0nty
    #3209667, posted on November 12, 2019 at 2:42 pm
    It all comes down to shadowy cabals with you lot, every time. It’s as if your minds aren’t capable of grasping any concept more complex than a conspiracy theory.

    The self awareness of a mollusk.

    The word “Muller” ring a bell while we are on about “shadowy cabals” and wild conspiracy theories.

    Also if you have people claiming they are part of a shadowy cabal being printed in a newspaper of record as existing…

    I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration
    I work for the president but like-minded colleagues and I have vowed to thwart parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations.

    Back to Bunnings, we are all out of rakes here for you.

  113. feelthebern

    Show me a place in Australia where it rained yesterday.

    My GBPAUD long is raining money at the moment.
    Does that count?

  114. jo

    Twostix, greens are loaded up in councils and bureaucracy everywhere, labor tries to appeal to swaying green voters and glibs not much better. I don’t know why some independents stand on not going along with the B.S. that is politics these days.

  115. twostix

    All you need is to be a grunt in local council as an (insert department name here) Officer. When time comer for recommendations for changes to DAs, you can push your own green agenda.

    The Greens are the direct continuation of the ACP, etc and they use the same tactics to gain power in and over society by forming loose networks of ideologically committed mid-level public servants, NGO front groups and crate a revolving door between the two (NGO committee member also was once X council’s environmental officer, also once Green Candidate for Z) – usually foreign government money somewhere funds bail-out parachutes for when they go too far and get booted from their jobs. The tactics are the same because it’s literally the same people.

  116. thefrollickingmole

    Show me a place in Australia where it rained yesterday.

    RAKE!!!
    Monty is indulging in a gang rake.
    According to the BOM even if hed said “in the last hour” hed still be wrong.
    Olympic class wrongonlogy.

    http://www.bom.gov.au/australia/flood/

  117. twostix

    I have a task for you, 26. Show me a place in Australia where it rained yesterday.

    This is the dumbest thing you have ever posted.

    Hand on my heart, this is the dumbest.

    That includes three years of “convincing” us that the US president is a Russian stooge and three years of telling us that Gillard was an excellent PM and would effortlessly destroy Tony Abbott in the election.

    This is way beyond that.

  118. Rex Mango

    Fire Update. Outbreak near Penrith. Penrith Panthers under threat, will surely be a catastrophe if that cultural wonderland is lost. Far worse loss than Mt Stromlo.

  119. RobK

    It’s death by a thousand cuts.
    Councils and Shires adopting UN agenda on nukes, climate armagedon etc and a pincer movement from the feds with ceded state powers over the same such as the ECBP Act. All egged on by a plethora of NGOs that specialise is grant harvesting over many decades now. It’s a bipartisan failing at all levels of government.

  120. JC

    It all comes down to shadowy cabals with you lot, every time.

    It’s not shadowy at all, numbnut.

    Schumer, Schiff, Clapper, Brennan etc.

    They’re out in the open.

  121. Rex Mango

    If Penrith Panthers under threat there will need to be a human chain to save those priceless poker machines. Probably more poker machines under one roof than anywhere in the world.

  122. Mother Lode

    HILLARY CLINTON SAYS MALE LEADERS ARE ‘SCARED’ OF GRETA THUNBERG

    The Greta train has passed. She had her moment insulting Trump, no one cares any more. The only people speaking of her are the ones who invested energy in her as real rather than an something to be seized and flung – and forgotten.

    As for the Hildebeest – she seems to have no idea as to why she lost.

    She has the typical frightbat technique though of telling us what men think and then in then rolls into telling us they are wrong and stupid and cowardly and stodgy and whatever.

    She might at least be honest and actually state that she is talking about strawmen, not real men. The only man she knows has ejaculated all his vitality out and all that is left is a deflated flaccid bladder of skin with a dazed expression on its face.

  123. RobK

    Show me a place in Australia where it rained yesterday.
    We had a heavy dew this morning, does that count. What was your point?

  124. cohenite

    Gallen is a live experiment in how many times you can get punched in the head before you start making sense. So far, no signs of intelligence. The tests continue.

    As opposed to pricks like you who have no excuse for their stupidity, not that Gallen is stupid. You vile little troll.

  125. twostix

    It all comes down to shadowy cabals with you lot, every time. It’s as if your minds aren’t capable of grasping any concept more complex than a conspiracy theory.

    This is the problem with dumb white reddit goon “IT” people who think they’re smart in a nutshell.

    Being locked in a closet for their entire life, they genuinely don’t know how dumb they are.

    So in this instance, for the last few years M0nty spent hundreds of hours…literally hundreds of hours posting “proof” in a blog comments section that the US president is a Russian spy and the entire US election was hijacked as part of some vast conspiracy theory something something Russia ( GDP ~= Canada).

    That collapses, effortlessly moves on to calling other people who live normal lives interacting with normal people conspiracy theorists.

  126. cohenite

    We had a heavy dew this morning, does that count. What was your point?

    He doesn’t have a point; he’s a maggot and a troll sent insane by Trump and other realities.

  127. thefrollickingmole

    Baaaaarnaby saying somthing about politics during the fires doubleplussungood.

    Greenfilth doing the same is approved by minitrue.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2019/nov/12/one-nation-declares-nationals-no-longer-party-of-the-bush-politics-live

    Larissa Waters has seen the Parliamentary Friends of Resources Christmas party invite:

    As Queensland and NSW burns, both the Liberals and Labor thought it was a good time to invite parliamentarians to Christmas drinks hosted by the fossil fuel industry, whose product is fuelling climate change and donations are blocking climate action.

    It sounds like satire but it’s the sad reality of Australian politics in 2019.

    Mehreen Faruqi singled out Joel Fitzgibbon:

    Seriously, Joel? Our state is on fire and this is the day you pick to invite us all to drinks with the oil and gas lobby, some of the biggest contributors to the climate crisis …
    ….
    Coal-supporting MPs ‘no better than bunch of arsonists’ – Greens senator
    Meanwhile, over in the Senate, Greens senator Jordon Steele-John has accused both major parties of being “no better than a bunch of arsonists, borderline arsonists” for supporting the coal industry, during the big stick Senate debate.

    Steele-John:

    There is not a scientist in this country – there is not a qualified individual on the face of the earth – that would say anything other than that there is a direct causal link between the burning of coal and the creation of dangerous climate change.

    And there is not an individual – a scientist or any other qualified person – who would deny the link between climate change and the disasters we are experiencing today.

    It is hypocrisy in the extreme – it is inappropriate beyond words – for this government to propose that, in this moment of national crisis, we should be using the powers of the federal government to maintain a system of burning coal for energy generation. That is what this bill seeks to facilitate.

    You, funded by your corporate backers, interested only in your continued political survival, have played a role in driving our country to the edge of an ecological abyss from which we may never recover.

    Your selfishness and your ignorance have known no bounds for decades, and now our communities are paying the price, just as your spinelessness, your contemptible inability to formulate yourselves into anything like an opposition, anything vaguely approaching an organisation capable of countering the bunch of self-obsessed corporate elites that is the Liberal party, has let this community down again and again.

    We heard your feeble mutterings in the chamber yesterday about the idea that, at some other point in the future, it might be the appropriate time to raise the issue of climate change.

    Now! Now! Now! In the past, when we as a community have confronted issues of national tragedy and crisis, such as we did after Port Arthur, we have come together as a nation and acted. We had a national firearms agreement within 11 days. How dare you suggest that our country is beyond the ability of rising to a similar challenge. How dare any of you suggest that, in this moment, at this time, it is appropriate to be prosecuting a piece of legislation with the aim of propping up coal.

    You are no better than a bunch of arsonists – borderline arsonists – and you should be ashamed…

    Someone what to remind wheelie boy what his chair is made from?

  128. twostix

    Is m0nty claiming that it is not raining right now at my house is due to his angry Climate Change god?

    These people used to viciously mock US pentecostals for claiming that hurricanes, etc were god’s wrath.

  129. thefrollickingmole

    BOM says , right now, its raining in Tassie

    Twostix is Bob brown confirmed!

  130. twostix

    It is hypocrisy in the extreme – it is inappropriate beyond words – for this government to propose that, in this moment of national crisis, we should be using the powers of the federal government to maintain a system of burning coal for energy generation. That is what this bill seeks to facilitate.

    You, funded by your corporate backers, interested only in your continued political survival, have played a role in driving our country to the edge of an ecological abyss from which we may never recover.

    This is one of m0nty’s bishops delivering a stinging rebuke to the heathens!

  131. twostix

    (Unelected) Greens senator Jordon Steele-John:

    funded by your corporate backers, interested only in your continued political survival, have played a role in driving our country to the edge of an ecological abyss from which we may never recover.

    Hey m0nty, are we on the right on the “edge of an ecological abyss” and is there a conspiracy involving “corporate backers” and the liberal and national parties re coal?

    Your guy here in the Senate says yes, yes, YES!

  132. struth

    Liberals and Nationals blaming “greenies” is a thing but a little lazy. “Greenies” in QLD have 0 seats in the legislature, so how does that work is the easy retort.

    Exactly, but they are not going to blame their own bosses in the UN are they?

    You really do have to scream it from the rooftops don’t you.
    We don’t call them the UNiparty. for nothing

  133. RobK

    Steele-John sounds like Greta. I think he too may be on the “spectrum “. Over egging the pudding.
    How dare you.

  134. struth

    I have a task for you, 26. Show me a place in Australia where it rained yesterday.

    Show me the fuckwit that expects it this time of year.

  135. What was your point?

    No rain was recorded anywhere in Australia yesterday.

  136. calli

    Wow. A fella having hysterics!

    Is there any vision? I want to watch.

  137. RobK

    No rain was recorded anywhere in Australia yesterday.
    And that is significant because? (Other than a BoM talking point)

  138. twostix

    We had a heavy dew this morning, does that count. What was your point?

    His point is that yesterday it didn’t rain because his big god Climate Change is angry.

    When it bucketed down with rain a week ago that was because Climate Change was ambivalent and merciful.

    And get this: (this will surprise you) the groups of people Climate Change acolytes don’t like coincidentally are the ones who are going to have get used to being impoverished and sacrificed to appease the Climate Change followers big fake god!

    Surprise! That’s a totally new thing in the history of the world.

  139. struth

    Wow. A fella having hysterics!

    Yes, Betas are hysterical as well, but they are not men, they are males.
    Big difference.
    Monty, however, is a goose.

  140. Bruce of Newcastle

    Certainly looks like it is raining in western Tassie according to BoM’s model map. Macquarie Is may be getting a downpour or two also.

    Perhaps we should shift Australia south about 1000 km to counteract the CO2. No sillier than all the policies the pollies have been doing so far.

  141. And that is significant because? (Other than a BoM talking point)

    That was the first time the Bureau had not recorded any rainfall in Australia for a day.

  142. Bruce of Newcastle

    No rain was recorded anywhere in Australia yesterday.

    Really? How odd. First station I looked at too.

  143. Bruce of Newcastle

    That was the first time the Bureau had not recorded any rainfall in Australia for a day.

    How amazing! They obviously can’t read their own website then.

  144. P

    Doing a bit of catching up and came across this interesting piece
    by Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare #3208514, posted on November 11, 2019 at 4:55 pm.
    I instantly thought of this story:

    Sharp tongue and inkwells –
    The infamous Captain Bligh may have regretted the day his daughter, Mary, was born…because her sharp tongue was the equal to any in the New South Wales Colony, including his own.
    Mary Putland was probably the most independent pioneer woman in Sydney’s western districts.
    She married twice, and acquired most of St Marys and all of Riverstone through her marriages.
    She wasn’t afraid of a fight, either…the men of the Rum Corps preferred to keep out of her way, even though she lived in open defiance of their regulations. And Captain Bligh, himself once ran from his daughter’s sharp tongue, and looked back to find that she was actually throwing inkwells after him.
    Incorrigible, headstrong, fiery…three qualities that made Mary Putland the woman she was. Her life was her own to lead and she led it as she thought best…sometimes to the despair of others.

    BTW I think your autocorrect may have put an apostrophe in the suburb of St Marys, twice.
    Also in regard to ‘a migrant hostel of old fibro barracks’ they were most probably built of timber with iron roofs. I have seen these from Scheyville and Herne Bay. Definitely no fibro.

  145. struth

    According to the left, (who have played a part in making this round of bushfires worse by infiltrating local councils and following global socialist dictate from the UN, thereby greatly increasing fuel load), this is the first time in Australia’s history it’s had bushfires, and they’re aren’t even as bad as many bushfires of the past.
    Apparently if you scream loud enough history rewrites itself.

  146. calli

    It’s a different kind of rain.

  147. struth

    Monty, change ya jocks, you hysterical girl, you’re embarrassing.

  148. Bruce of Newcastle

    Maybe some one peed in the Mt Read rain gauge by accident.

  149. Correction, mainland Australia. 🙂

    Anyway, it’s useless getting the truth into your thick heads.

  150. calli

    And in other news, Fires Near Me, courtesy of the NSW hovt and RFS, is overloaded.

    Time to up capacity guys.

  151. struth

    That was the first time the Bureau had not recorded any rainfall in Australia for a day.

    Now work out who told you that, and then read BoN’s link and understand you’ve been brainwashed…….because thick people and the young are easily brainwashed

  152. One mil of rain on the top of a mountain in Tasmania and none anywhere else in Australia, that proves climate change is a myth, say the idiots.

  153. struth

    Correction, mainland Australia.

    Anyway, it’s useless getting the truth into your thick heads.

    Now are you also going to claim there has never been a day where no rainfall has fallen on the Mainland?

  154. twostix

    How amazing! They obviously can’t read their own website then.

    AHAHA

    It’s so painful.

    What happened is it really didn’t rain yesterday, but m0nty posted that stupid shit above so the gods altered the BOM’s website to make him wrong.

    It’s what happens anytime m0nty gets involved! The universe literally alters itself to make sure he retains his perfect record of being wrong. We see it so often we should make a religion out of it like m0nty has done to the earths Climate.

  155. calli

    One mil of rain on the top of a mountain in Tasmania and none anywhere else in Australia, that proves climate change is a myth, say the idiots.

    No. It may mean you are mistaken.

  156. notafan

    Yes Calli

    looking at the state by state stats it appears all had some rain somewhere yesterday

    but excelling raking by Monty

  157. cohenite

    That was the first time the Bureau had not recorded any rainfall in Australia for a day.

    Here’s a fact: it didn’t rain in Australia for 22 years from 1500 – 1522:

    https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/2016JD024892

  158. struth

    That’s a mainland with ten deserts you pillock.

    Look at the wording of the people dribbling the shit that you are licking up, Monty.

  159. RobK

    That was the first time the Bureau had not recorded any rainfall in Australia for a day.
    ….and this is significant because…..(hint:it may be a measure of the dryness of air, but we actually measure that with hygrometers all over the country many times per day). The BoM fun fact is meaningless piece of agitprop for stooges.

  160. Bruce of Newcastle

    One mil of rain on the top of a mountain in Tasmania and none anywhere else in Australia, that proves climate change is a myth, say the idiots.

    It proves you were lying M0nty. Took me less than 30 seconds.

    Of course if you’d linked whatever source you used for that statement we’d forgive you for just being gullible.

  161. notafan

    and allegedly, no rain in Australia for a day is proof that (man made) climate change is real

    Work!

  162. Bruce of Newcastle

    Oh look Thredbo had some too. And Bombala.
    Maybe there is some threshold defining what no rain means?
    Like less than a certain convenient amount?

  163. struth

    As soon as Monty gets himself involved in subjects other than name calling from a distance, it all crashes around him.
    What we must take from it is just how many thickos like Monty there are around, swallowing the shit fed to them.
    At least he comes here every now and then to ask adults about what the kids at school were saying.
    Then runs off screaming holding his ears, but ya never know, er, TRUMP IS STILL PRESIDENT.
    And monty is still a fuckwit.
    As I said, Monty’s thick and would quite quickly turn evil, where Sniffy is actually evil.

  164. Don’t worry about the people who die today, like Barnaby said they probably voted Green so they don’t matter.

  165. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    You, funded by your corporate backers, interested only in your continued political survival, have played a role in driving our country to the edge of an ecological economic abyss from which we may never recover.

    Unfortunately, with the exception of one word which I have corrected, this is 100% true.

  166. P

    My link up thread to Lizzie’s comment is here

  167. twostix

    I have a question for people outside the city: On any given day that it rained in if BOM doesn’t have a record of it raining did it actually even rain?

    Whoa.

  168. Boambee John

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #3209719, posted on November 12, 2019 at 3:35 pm
    That was the first time the Bureau had not recorded any rainfall in Australia for a day.

    How amazing! They obviously can’t read their own website then.

    That hasn’t been homogenised yet Bruce.

    Another rake for the rakemeister?

  169. Bruce of Newcastle

    Don’t worry about the people who die today, like Barnaby said they probably voted Green so they don’t matter.

    Oh no we worry. And pray, at least I do.
    And we understand the Green policies that caused their deaths.

  170. struth

    Don’t worry about the people who die today, like Barnaby said they probably voted Green so they don’t matter.

    If you are truly concerned make sure your local council has no environmental policies that are dictated to them by the socialist UN.
    Don’t stand on the side of the people stacking the brush and fuel all around the church, so when it goes up, it really goes up, killing all and then virtue signal about their deaths, you hypocritical accomplice to murder,

  171. jo

    “How dare you”, wheelie boy taking points off scoldilocks.

  172. thefrollickingmole

    Monty is still wrong.
    No rain was recorded anywhere in Australia yesterday.
    Amazing I know….

    http://www.bom.gov.au/web03/ncc/www/awap/rainfall/totals/daily/colour/latest.loop.gif

  173. cohenite

    Don’t worry about the people who die today, like Barnaby said they probably voted Green so they don’t matter.

    BJ said that; prove it shithead.

  174. Boambee John

    m0nty
    #3209726, posted on November 12, 2019 at 3:38 pm
    Correction, mainland Australia. 🙂

    Anyway, it’s useless getting the truth into your thick heads.

    notafan
    #3209728, posted on November 12, 2019 at 3:40 pm
    Victorian rainfall bulletin for 11 11 2019

    Whose thick head was that?

    Still, there are plenty here who wish that the Glorious Peoples’ Republic of Victoriastan wasn’t part of Australia.

  175. Top Ender

    But haven’t these people been through our education system?

    On a low income and with four children to support — one of them with autism — single mother Kirsten White is doing it tough.

    In her home at Kingston, on the outskirts of Hobart, every cent counts.

    So when the brakes on her car suddenly gave out, it was a blow to her budget.

    Ms White “urgently needed” $350, and a payday lender was there for her.

    “I could not think of any other way at the time to get my car repaired,” she said.

    “I was under the impression [the payday lender was] quite flexible with repayments.”

    When she was unable to meet the fortnightly repayments, her initial $350 loan spiralled into $800 debt within half a year.

    Link

  176. Green policies that caused their deaths

    BOOO! Did you get scared? What a beta you are, feeling oppressed by the Greens of all people.

  177. RobK

    Don’t worry about the people who die today, like Barnaby said they probably voted Green so they don’t matter.
    I doubt Barnaby said that in relation to the fires. However, had we not wasted so much resources chasing RE and eco-zealotry we may have been in a better state of preparedness for these inevitable difficult times.

  178. To paraphrase Bill Clinton: It depends on how you define rain.

  179. thefrollickingmole

    To fend Monty off beclowning himself again heres what baaaarnaby actually said.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2019/nov/12/one-nation-declares-nationals-no-longer-party-of-the-bush-politics-live?page=with:block-5dca0d9f8f08c2d1f80de0d1#liveblog-navigation

    KG: But the thing is that we hear from as I mentioned, Jason McKellar, the incident controller, the New South Wales deputy commissioner Rob Rogers said earlier that hazard reductions have gone on each and every year, each year we get as much done as we would like …

    Barnaby Joyce: Well see, you’re using different words there, “as they are able to do”.

    KG: Do they have enough resources to get it done?

    BJ:

    I just think that it, here, in the first instance, they may need more resources, but they also need legislation regulations, to allow them to get in there and do it in a more substantial way.

    And that the crazy thing there, and I acknowledge that the two people who died were most likely people who voted for the Green party, so I am not going to start attacking them. That’s the last thing I want to do.

    What I wanted to concentrate on is the policies that we can mitigate these tragedies happening again in the future. That’s where I’m going to focus. And what I wish Mr Bandt would do, is not trying to extend this argument to political purposes that he is following and I think he’s a member for both Melbourne Ports, is that correct? A long, long way away from the people who were fighting the fires in the New England, on the coast, who are actually putting their lives on the line, their time on the line, doing it for free.

    And again, the statements he’s making his for his political purpose of stopping coal production in Australia and I can understand that’s his purpose, he’s entitled to that purpose.

    But to make these spurious links, that a policy change would have stopped the fight is so insulting and just completely beyond the pale, to cast that, because people think, well, maybe if that was the truth, I wouldn’t be burnt, maybe if that’s the truth, a good friend of mine would not be dead.

    And you can’t do that Adam, just can’t do stuff like that.

    ieran Gilbert: But the thing is, you’re also arguing for policies to change in this context, which I, which I understand and your constituents are affected here. But would any of that be enough to deal with these catastrophic conditions that we are seeing?

    Barnaby Joyce:

    Well, the only thing that burns is vegetation and if you’ve done fire hazard reduction burns, you don’t have the vegetation or the amount there, to burn.

    And the other thing is, these fires are super hot, super aggressive, because of the fuel load.

    And not only does that, not only does that incredibly dangerous and fatal for people, it also kills the trees. You’ll go back later and because it has been so hot, the trees will be dead, and in the past, you will do a fire reduction burn and therefore the heat of the fire, when it would go through again, they would definitely be further bushfires, but they’re not to the same intensity.

    And that is something that we need to rediscover, because it’s something the Aboriginals discovered years ago, because they wanted to stay alive.

  180. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    On a low income and with four children to support — one of them with autism — single mother Kirsten White is doing it tough.

    From the details provided she would have been in receipt of some form of payment from Cntrelink, even if she was working and it was only a part payment.

    That being the case she was entitled to an up to $500.00 cash advance on her Centrelink payments, repayable over the next twenty weeks.

  181. struth

    I’m feeling oppressed by the green left.
    The green left in the Liberal, Labor, Greens, UN and local councils.
    I’m not scared of them though, but interestingly you conflate the two, why is that?
    Are you suggesting that they are somehow violent or anti-democratic arseholes that have gained power by less than admiral action?

  182. dover_beach

    That was the first time the Bureau had not recorded any rainfall in Australia for a day.

    I was going to say that I can’t believe that even monty fell for that one, but I pondered it for a moment, and, yes, I can. Dear oh dear.

  183. Mother Lode

    Monty is here.

    I take it they are about to pin the bushfires on Trump.

    Any day now. Any daaaaay…

  184. twostix

    Don’t worry about the people who die today, like Barnaby said they probably voted Green so they don’t matter.

    Cult followers try and guilt everyone else when the fruits of their insane beliefs kill people.
    Every summer until now:
    “If you attempt to remove the fuel for the fire all around your house and town we will send our people from the city to imprison and crush you all, stop asking!”

    Now:

    “It’s our god’s fault, not ours, and your fault too for making him angry!”

  185. RobK

    BOOO! Did you get scared?
    No. My fear is for the ignorant and stupid. They are most at risk.

  186. Snoopy

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #3209743, posted on November 12, 2019 at 3:53 pm
    Oh look Thredbo had some too. And Bombala.
    Maybe there is some threshold defining what no rain means?
    Like less than a certain convenient amount?

    Those are raw figures which have yet to be subjected to BOM’s quality control process. Come back and check the webpages next month.

  187. Farmer Gez

    Well it’s one windy cool to cold bitch of a day in Western Vic.
    I’m sitting in a semi and the westerly wind is rocking the tipper.

  188. Barnaby is a drongo. Why even bring up who the dead voted for, what a dick move. Their corpses are still warm and he’s blaming them for their own deaths.

    The Nationals are a bunch of psychos.

  189. Cardimona

    I just received a reply to my letter to the AG re our local Excretion Retention coven’s convenor and his position as a person of influence according to the Cairns Post.

    This is what I sent…

    The Cairns Post newspaper has a “most influential local identity” poll here – (now closed).

    On that list is Geoff Holland, who had a letter to the editor in the Cairns Post on Saturday, November 9th signed “Geoff Holland, convenor, Extinction Rebellion Cairns”.

    Extinction Rebellion is an international enviro-socialist organisation dedicated to overthrowing all capitalist democracies, including ours.

    Capitalist democracies do less environmental harm than any other type of government, and it’s the only model to ever free people from slavery and poverty.

    Extinction Rebellion is a hostile foreign force and its operatives in Australia have achieved “influencer” status – according to a regional daily newspaper.

    My question; has the Attorney General’s department listed Geoff Holland as an “agent of foreign influence” and if not, will it please do so?

    This is the reply.
    Ffs…

    EC19-002069
    12 November 2019

    Dear (Cardimona)

    Thank you for contacting the Australian Attorney-General’s Department on
    9 November 2019, regarding the Foreign Influence Transparency Scheme (the scheme).

    The scheme was established by the Foreign Influence Transparency Scheme Act 2018
    (the Act) and commenced on 10 December 2018. The scheme is a significant new
    transparency measure which aims to provide the Australian public and decision-makers in
    government with visibility of the nature, level and extent of foreign influence on Australia’s
    government and political process. It does this by requiring any person or entity that
    undertakes certain activities on behalf of a foreign principal to register under the scheme. The
    public register can be viewed at https://transparency.ag.gov.au/.

    With regard to the potential registration obligations of members of Extinction Rebellion
    under the scheme, ultimately it is the obligation of each individual or organisation to
    determine their liability to register under the scheme. Broadly speaking, any person is
    required to register if:
    • they undertake registrable activities or enter into a registrable arrangement; and
    • the activity is, or will be undertaken in Australia on behalf of a foreign principal; and
    • the activity is undertaken for the purpose of political or governmental influence; and
    • no exemptions apply.

    Under the Act, registrable activities are parliamentary lobbying, general political lobbying,
    communications activity and disbursement activity. A foreign principal is a foreign
    government, a foreign political organisation, a foreign government related entity or a foreign
    government related individual.

    The scheme’s registration obligations apply equally to any person who undertakes registrable
    activities on behalf of a foreign principal for the purpose of political or governmental
    influence – this is regardless of which jurisdiction the foreign principal is from and regardless
    of the viewpoint being advanced.

    You can find more detailed information about the scheme and its requirements at
    http://www.ag.gov.au/transparency.

    We hope that this information is of assistance. Thank you for bringing this matter to our
    attention.

    Regards
    External Feedback
    Attorney-General’s Department

  190. The Beer Whisperer

    m0nty
    #3209668, posted on November 12, 2019 at 2:45 pm
    I have a task for you, 26. Show me a place in Australia where it rained yesterday.

    On your head, Muttley.

    Except it wasn’t rain 😁

  191. thefrollickingmole

    Don’t worry about the people who die today, like Barnaby said they probably voted Green so they don’t matter.

    You grub.

  192. Snoopy

    So when the brakes on her car suddenly gave out….

    It’s really annoying when that happens. No warning light. No spongey brake pedal. No weird scraping sounds. Just, Poof! No brakes!

  193. Bruce of Newcastle

    BOOO! Did you get scared?

    M0nty, if I lived in some of those tree change locations that progs so love I’d be scared. Like that guy who was fined $50 big ones for clearing the fuel load on his property only to see his house survive while his neighbours’ ones didn’t.

    Fined for illegal clearing, family now feel vindicated

    People who don’t study history, which in schools you increasingly don’t get or, if you do, only as stupid propaganda dressed up as supposed history, are doomed to repeat it.

  194. struth

    Barnaby is a drongo. Why even bring up who the dead voted for, what a dick move. Their corpses are still warm and he’s blaming them for their own deaths.

    The Nationals are a bunch of psychos.

    Even though he didn’t say it, if he had, do you deny that if a drunk driver killed himself and those he smashed into in a car accident, you would not assign blame, ya fucking hypocrite.
    Or would you blame those he smashed into/
    Apparently you can lay the blame of these fires at “climate deniers” and coal miners no worries, but spit the dummy out at the reverse being done.
    Do you notice your fucked up hypocrisy…………………………..well we know you don’t , I just add that for Lurkers.

  195. notafan

    Melbourne is 17

    had a very little light rain this morning

    or maybe that was just my imagination

  196. notafan

    notice how Monty just moves along from his original falsehood to something else

    just like Malmo only
    nope

    just like Malmo

  197. twostix

    M0nty is playing games and mocking people whose houses have burned down because pro-society forest management at all is almost completely banned in national parks due to green-left dickheads who infest those departments, and back-burning largely banned at the state and council level for the same reason: urban bugman greens ideology weaponised as policy which can be surmised as “broke: back-burning and cultivated forests, woke: amazing unchecked, untouched wilderness areas.”

    It’s all a joke to him, he doesn’t give a shit, why would he? On any other day regional and outer suburbs people are literally the definition of scum as far as he and the rest of the urban bugman are concerned. They vote wrong and do all that backwards bigoted, racist redneck traditional stuff.

    They only care if there’s an angle to forward their weirdo made up religion.

  198. thefrollickingmole

    Monty of Malmo, Id forgotten about that…

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/04/sweden-bomb-attacks-reach-unprecedented-level-as-gangs-feud

    Sweden’s national bomb squad has been called out to 30 blasts in the past two months and 100 so far this year, more than twice the number in the same period in 2018, as concern grows about rising levels of violence by criminal gangs.

    They should consider themselves lucky Monty didnt deny them using nuclear weapons.

  199. notafan

    From Qullette

    Even among the more optimistic, many find it prudent to consider the worst case, but have very little information to help them decide where to draw the line between farsightedness and fantasy. And I understand those who assume that even though some claims may be exaggerated, surely with so much smoke, there must be a fire somewhere. A headline like “UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It’s Actually Worse Than That,” implies that even discounting the exaggeration, it’s still “climate genocide.”

    https://quillette.com/2019/11/07/climate-change-assessing-the-worst-case-scenario/?fbclid=IwAR3ogU-wpS7zKSBALjJKQzpnXdwJjvy8dAgBkGZjQd3cpi4dw54Dc_5XdWc

  200. RobK

    Cardi,
    The way I read the reply, the conditions included what you put to them, it just they aren’t going to use those words. You have drawn it to their attention. They can’t do much but I’m sure other agencies have their measure.

  201. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘fella’

    Nah, calli.

    Monty – Get this pill into you, old chap. Have a nice glass of milk, too.

    Here – I’ll just put it down, right next to your vagina.

  202. lotocoti

    That was the first time the Bureau had not recorded any rainfall in Australia for a day.

    Funnily enough, the other day I could’ve used some of those Elton John windscreen wiper glasses on my early morning ride. The slippery roads and the umbrella toting Ladies Who Walk must’ve been a particularly vivid hallucination, however, because BOM recorded zero precipitation between 0500 and 0600 at the recording station, a couple miles out of town.

  203. feelthebern

    We had a heavy dew this morning, does that count.

    Phrasing.

  204. Cardimona

    Thanks, RobK

    I might email Mx Chidgey and get her to send a letter to the coven convenor similar to the one Tony Abbott received.

  205. On any other day regional and outer suburbs people are literally the definition of scum as far as he and the rest of the urban bugman are concerned.

    I am from the country, you moron.

  206. Cardimona

    Also, RobK, good point about fuel excise earlier.
    I’ll use that in the next draft.

  207. Cardimona

    Mmmyesss, there’s m0rons in the country, too.
    Fact check: true.

  208. feelthebern

    monty, Greta says a beta can’t call another man a beta.
    It takes you too far down the Greek alphabet.
    Greta also says:

  209. The Beer Whisperer

    Rex Mango
    #3209679, posted on November 12, 2019 at 2:52 pm
    Fire Update. Outbreak near Penrith.

    Right on cue, and right where all the firies are waiting for a fire to break out.

    Were any of them bored with nothing to do?

    Asking for a friend.

  210. Tom

    I am from the country, you moron.

    No, you’re not — you’re from Geelong, population 200,000+.

    Lots of fucked up godless commo greenfilth voters in Geelong, just like you.

  211. John Constantine:

    Mr Robb — who successfully completed three bilateral trade agreements between Australia and China, South Korea and Japan that are proving pivotal to greater agricultural prosperity — is on the board of Gina Rinehart’s Kidman cattle empire, and has spent many weeks locking in a deal for the larger Rinehart Hancock pastoral business to export up to 800,000 live cattle to China.

    Looks like they’ve learnt bugger all from the Merino sheep experiment.
    The cattle that the Australian farmers have bred to live in this harsh climate are just perfect for stocking the soon-to-be-grasslands of Central Asia.
    As the OBOR Empire takes shape, the outline of the banquet table appears, and it doesn’t look like there will be many crumbs for Australia.

  212. twostix

    Regional and rural people have been screaming about all of this for 20+ years now on multiple fronts. Specifically that national parks and any government body dealing with land management has been captured over by ideologues that are anti-everything that normal people like and want including little things like just camping and collecting sticks. Let alone the big issues like cultivating and managing the forests so they’re better for society and don’t burn down everyone’s houses within 10km of them when they burn down.

    The problem is the urban everyman really just doesn’t really care. It’s understandable, out of sight out of mind and all that.

    Which is why localism is the only moral form of political organisation.

  213. you’re from Geelong

    Incorrect. I grew up in a town of 6,000 which is now closer to 5,000.

  214. twostix

    I am from the country, you moron.

    Of course you are.

    I will wait ten minutes for the world to re-align and even if you were, you will no longer be.

    Watch.

  215. Bruce of Newcastle

    I am from the country, you moron.

    Well I hope you aren’t in a nice comfy house in the middle of a eucalyptus forest then M0nty.

    I’ve mentioned a couple of times that the current general weather patterns, especially ENSO and the IOD, are rather similar to that of the Federation Drought. At which time pCO2 was around 300 ppm or so.

    One aspect that has generally not been recognised, however, is that the
    rainfall deficit and its accompanying heatwaves, dust storms and bushfires,
    together with their huge impacts on the environment and human activities,
    were the result of three closely following El Niño events. The first stage
    ran from 1895-98, with the summer of 1897-98 suffering some of the most
    extreme recorded weather in Australia – heatwaves, bushfires and dust
    storms in the south-east (New South Wales, Victoria, Tasmania and South
    Australia) and cyclones in Queensland.

    We have had el Ninos in 2015-16, 2017-18 and a weak Modoki el Nino this year – with a record positive IOD.

    The other aspect is that the Federation Drought was 120 years ago, or two cycles of the ~60 year cycle.

  216. twostix

    No, you’re not — you’re from Geelong, population 200,000+.

    Bwahahahah! Not even ten minutes!

  217. notafan

    Seymour.

    Or was it India?

  218. Oh come on

    It’s what happens anytime m0nty gets involved! The universe literally alters itself to make sure he retains his perfect record of being wrong. We see it so often we should make a religion out of it like m0nty has done to the earths Climate.

    This is unquestionably true. There are the odd occasions when Trump hits a roadblock, and I get to thinking just maybe the Deep State has nailed him this time. Then m0nty struts in skiting about Trump’s imminent downfall and I know for certain that Trump’s gonna be fine.

  219. feelthebern

    Incorrect. I grew up in a town of 6,000 which is now closer to 5,000.

    Did you eat the other 1000 ?

  220. notafan

    Besides which living in Melbourne’s inner west (proud owner of not one but two houses( for the last couple of decades doesn’t help the ‘I’m a country boy’ thing

  221. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    forest management at all is almost completely banned in national parks due to green-left dickheads who infest those departments, and back-burning largely banned at the state and council level for the same reason

    Wrong, wrong wrong, Twostix.
    Policy affecting national parks is the responsibility of the Federal government. The federal public servants are only responsible for implementing those policies. Policy affecting state parks and private land management is the responsibility of the state government. State public servants and local councils are only responsible for implementing and overseeing those policies.

    Australia has had a Liberal federal government for six years now, and NSW has had a liberal state government even longer.

    Please stop trying to farm the blame anywhere but where it belongs – firmly with Liberal federal and state governments, who have completely abrogated their actual responsibilities while they swan about big-noting themselves by handing out truckloads of OPM to irrelevant but newsworthy causes.

  222. Eyrie

    Brisbane radar has a storm south of Rathdownie on the NSW/Qld border.

  223. stackja

    BOM 24 Hour Rainfalls
    Is Tasmania still in Australia? Rained there over the last 24 hours.

  224. I was back there during the week. Big news is they’re probably going to get a Bunnings, over the objection of one of the local councils, but the two hardware stores in town are owned by out-of-towners so the objections don’t carry much weight.

  225. Oh come on

    Does m0nty ever reflect on how wrong he’s been over literally every call he’s made here going back at least three or four years? It really is amazing. He is a brilliant counter-indicator. If you’re not sure about something, you just ask m0nty what he thinks and then you take the opposite view. You’re guaranteed to be correct.

  226. Top Ender

    …despite the precautions, boxers do sometimes still suffer grievous injuries and even death. Let me add a final point of particular pertinence to my unfolding theme. Women fight two-minute rounds compared with three minutes for men. You see, as the minutes tick by tiredness and the chances of getting hurt increase correspondingly.

    Take an imaginative leap. Suppose one of these three male boxers, who I referred to above, decides to wear a frock, have a course of estrogen, and fight as a woman. Katie Taylor would have her block knocked off. In fact, she would be put in grave danger. Forget all those steps to reduce risks. The betting would be on whether she would survive for less or more than a minute.

    Sometimes ridiculous propositions are best shown up by getting the context right. It’s all very well to allow men purporting to be women to take part in racing sports of various kinds or in sports which either have no physical contact or which severely regulate such contact, but why stop there? If in fact men can change into women and compete fairly with biological women then that surely must apply across the board. Katie and all the other women boxers must acquiesce to getting their blocks knocked off in the cause of transsexualism (or, if you want to put it in a woke way, in the virtuous cause of “transgenderism”).

    Over at Quadrant.

  227. Mater

    Besides which living in Melbourne’s inner west (proud owner of not one but two houses( for the last couple of decades doesn’t help the ‘I’m a country boy’ thing

    Neither does the Twitter handle.

    Paul Montgomery
    @m0nty
    Founder of http://fanfooty.com.au, plus a new mobile game venture called Tickle Monster. Dad, nerd, Melbournite. Also poliblogger & troll.

  228. RobK

    Eyrie,
    Heavy smoke and moisture from the fire can show on radar. Just sayin.

  229. cohenite

    Reading a book on the making of Casablanca and the effect on the script by the censors. For instance this was the original line:

    Capt. Renault: How extravagant you are – throwing away women like that. Some day they may be rationed.

    In the final the word rationed was replaced with

    scarce

    . Rationed having a predatory context apparently.

    This exchange was left out altogether:

    Major Strasser: Don’t you think that with so much important work to be done, you could devote a little less time to personal matters?
    Capt. Renault: Well, you enjoy war. I enjoy women. We are both very good at our jobs.
    Strasser: I think the German viewpoint is a much healthier one.
    Renault: You are probably right. At least your work keeps you outdoors.

    God-damned censors.

  230. Percy Popinjay

    Imminently imminent angry weather climate emergency forecast for Sydneystan …

  231. Joanna

    Besides which living in Melbourne’s inner west

    Where it is currently raining and hailing. Seems like the weather gods don’t like being accused of being lazy.

  232. Bruce of Newcastle

    Brisbane radar has a storm south of Rathdownie on the NSW/Qld border.

    Eyrie – Smoke from the fires shows up on the rain radar.

  233. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Besides which living in Melbourne’s inner west (proud owner of not one but two houses( for the last couple of decades doesn’t help the ‘I’m a country boy’ thing

    Dunno – I can imagine Monty in his white moleskins, with a brand new Akubra.

  234. The Beer Whisperer

    Cats, keep an eye out for footage of the fire burning near Turramurra. It looks like it started conveniently at the edge of the forest. Arsonists are too lazy to even go into the forest, just content to chuck a match in at the edge. There’s a clear thick line of trees with brown leaves traversing across from the edge.

    No doubt the cause of the fire will not be mentioned, just implied to be a natural event.

  235. Boambee John

    m0nty at 1615

    Why even bring up who the dead voted for, what a dick move. Their corpses are still warm and he’s blaming them for their own deaths.

    I’m sure that you can link us to your condemnation of various greens who in the past have made direct linkages between natural disasters and coal mining, usually before the dead have been counted.

    No? Thought not?

  236. thefrollickingmole

    No doubt the cause of the fire will not be mentioned, just implied to be a natural event.

    In 2 minds about that.

    1: It would be good to pin down how many of these are lit by vermin.

    2: Unless the vermin are caught it might be the “highlight” of their life and others might get similar ideas. Publicizing pyros might generate more of them?

  237. Bruce of Newcastle

    the fire burning near Turramurra

    My granny used to live there, Kur-ing-gai Chase used to go up quite regularly. It was a matter of some angst for her, although my grandad was a bit more equable.

  238. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Is Tasmania still in Australia? Rained there over the last 24 hours.

    In reality Tasmania is not and never was, part of Australia. It is actually the northernmost tip of Antarctica. The only reason the inhabitants conned their way into being counted as part of Australia is because we have a more generous welfare system than Antarctica.

  239. Look at the bright side.
    After the current burn off, it will be a few years before it burns, again.

  240. feelthebern

    It’s 5:19pm & the fire storm the media were hoping for hasn’t happened.
    Will they be disappointed ?

  241. Bruce of Newcastle

    Re the fires I’m sure our overworked ASIS and ASIO peoples are watching closely some usual suspects after a recent not very well publicised announcement from Target #3 (I’m inferring that).

    Targets #1 and #2 having had their own experience with exothermic chemistry recently.

    (Story at the link is from 6 Nov.)

  242. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    It’s 5:19pm & the fire storm the media were hoping for hasn’t happened.

    Do firestorms work on daylight saving time?

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