Open Forum: November 9, 2019

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  1. Rex Mango

    Lizzie, am not so sure about St Cate. Yes good writer and knows cricket. Just too much attention seeking behaviour.

    TE, ABC & assorted travellers have lot invested with that book and won’t give up without a fight.

  2. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Prediction – you heard it here first…Pascoe and book will fade quietly away and in five years will be a has-been. No-one on the Left will stand up and say it’s a fraud, but the scholarship will be such that Bitter Harvest‘s truth will not be able to be denied.

    I’m hoping Pascoe’s book fades away, before it does as much damage in the education system as “Rabbit Proof Fence.”

    It was always a hoot – the family farm was on the Rabbit Proof Fence, and I took a certain delight in telling the younger generation that their great grandparents had no recollection any indigenous kids “following the Fence” or any police patrol in pursuit.

  3. cohenite

    All this hoo ha criticism of Pascoe and dark emu is just the usual conservative drivel until the kunt is sued. Until then abc and the usual lefties will use him to prosecute their agenda.

  4. egg_

    Trying to read Quadrant article, when Phillip Adams came on radio…

    Is he doing a Harvey Wankstain these days?

  5. Old School Conservative

    3 metre board gone and pool filled in.

    Elf ‘n Safety guv.
    Part of the dumbing down of Australians. No risk taking activities for you!
    Assisted by ambulance chasing lawyers and entitled parents of hurt thrill seekers.

  6. egg_

    Prediction – you heard it here first…Pascoe and book will fade quietly away and in five years will be a has-been. No-one on the Left will stand up and say it’s a fraud, but the scholarship will be such that Bitter Harvest‘s truth will not be able to be denied.

    You think.
    My prediction is that his bullshit will surface under another guise and those who dispute it will be labelled racist.

    +1 Cardigan

  7. Rex Mango

    Another little spoken of aspect re Cate Mc, was how when Morrison’s speech writer (why does head of army have a speech writer?) he got on an aircraft and was strapped in next to Morrison for two hours to tell him he wanted to transition. Morrison of course agreed and everyone celebrated and both of them ended up on Australian of the Year shortlist. But, did anyone notice how Cate kept her rank, but was transferred to the air force? So this wonderfully tolerant army quietly moved Cate across to the blue orchards as a Group Captain.

  8. Knuckle Dragger

    Watched Katey McGregor being interviewed by somebody on Sky the other day.

    She certainly has, in my view, Potential Greatness.

    As a baritone.

  9. Cold-Hands

    Once saw footage of USN aircraft carrier launch an aircraft straight into a wave, but it flew through and climbed away. Never seen it on Youtube, but will post if I do.

    1971, USS Ticonderoga. The video is pretty grainy.

  10. egg_

    World’s first airport therapy pig hogs the limelight at San Francisco airport

    monty… will you be my therapy hog?

    Does he squeal like a stuck pig when it comes to paying the bill?

  11. Cold-Hands

    Just realised that the clip in the article doesn’t show the plane recovering. This clip does.

  12. Rex Mango

    CH, excellent find, well done.

  13. Leigh Lowe

    Launching off a carrier through a wave?
    Who hasn’t?

  14. Knuckle Dragger

    Captain Obvious pays a visit to the Herald Sun:

    ‘Melbourne might be the world’s second most liveable city, but it doesn’t even make the top 50 in a list of most beautiful cities.’

    Duh.

  15. Leigh Lowe

    But, did anyone notice how Cate kept her rank, but was transferred to the air force? 

    Unusual transfer, considering that he was about to have his undercarriage removed.

  16. Cold-Hands

    A U.S. Navy submarine missing for 75 years has been found off Okinawa, Japan. The USS Grayback was discovered in June, according to the Lost 52 Project, a group of undersea explorers whose mission is to find the wrecks of every American submarine lost in World War II.

    The Grayback sailed out of Pearl Harbor on January 28th, 1944, for its 10th combat patrol. Two months later, it was listed as missing and presumed lost.

    Last year, an amateur researcher in Japan detected a mistake in the latitude and longitude of the spot where the Grayback probably sank. The records were off by a single digit — about 100 miles.

    Earlier this year, using the new information, private explorers located the wreck of the Grayback under 1,400 feet of water. Tim Taylor, who heads the Lost 52 Project, told The New York Times his team was “elated” by the discovery. “But it’s also sobering, because we just found 80 men,” he said.

    According to the Navy, the USS Grayback was one of the most successful submarines in the war, sinking a total of 14 ships.

  17. classical_hero

    Rockets of peace have been launched at Isreal.

  18. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Who hasn’t?’

    Nobody of note.

    I did it in The Nam, but it was a communist wave so it turned out all right in the end.

  19. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    This one’s for any pussers.
    At the time the Americans were recommissioning the Iowa class battleships, the howler monkies were pontificating about how they were going to recruit the crews to man them. At the same time, their Navy received thousands of letters from veterans – the oldest was 82 – offering to help train the crews, if not man the ships themselves….

  20. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Too much attention seeking behaviour for poor Cate? I dunno. Perhaps she is just getting in touch with her female side. 🙂

    The absolute truth is that born women are born to draw attention to themselves, by all sorts of modes and ruses. Those females who deny this, interlecshul lefty types or serious no-nonsense I-never-flirt-tweeds-r-me types, are lying. They’re doing it. Just using subtle subterfuge modes. Old Ma Nature, miserable old bitch, wants us to get pregnant so draw attention we must. Some just show it more overtly.

    It is as simple as that.

  21. Rex Mango

    Another thing is Cate left army and then returned with Timor on to get some gongs in Intel I think. Then onto speech writer (again why does Defence have such positions?) for someone who was probably your classmate at Duntroon. Not a bad little earner. Move onto first army transition and there is a theme.

  22. Caveman

    Dark Emu lump it in with Chariots of the Gods.

  23. Mark A

    Caveman
    #3210164, posted on November 12, 2019 at 11:42 pm

    Dark Emu lump it in with Chariots of the Gods.

    Eric von Daeniken at least made you ponder, nothing at all points to aboriginal agriculture or anything like that above the gatherer stage.

  24. Stimpson J. Cat

    Chariots of the Gods.

    Chariots of the Gods isn’t true?

    Since when?

    This is outrageous slander.

  25. Rex Mango

    Before signing off, why is speech writer to head of army a uniform position, if a position at all? They used to have low ranking jobs like barmen in uniform, but it was decided that was a waste. How does one become a Colonel whose job it is to write speeches? Like you go to war and you are bunkered down in Canberra busily drafting speeches, whilst pressing uniforms for parade. There are no civilian journos in Canberra who couldn’t write speeches and would avoid the problem of medals and Dept of Veterans Affairs and probably Gold Card for having seen ‘action’ in Timor.

  26. Top Ender

    Actually be interesting see which media outlet turns on Brucie Pascoe first.

    Sooner or later one of them will realise he’s not Aboriginal therefore a safe target.

  27. jupes

    We had this really fat bloke who was a shoe in and we all chanted his name in unison. He climbed up and delivered a textbook Bomb (as opposed to a Horsey, or Suey) with hands clasped around one knee that detonated deep underwater with huge spray upwards. We won.

    A lost art these days. Not many millennials can execute a bomb. Technique is more important than mass so skinny blokes can compete too. I would back myself to beat a millenial twice my weight.

    I always reckoned that Australia should have introduced bombing as an Olympic sport for the Sydney Olympics. As opposed to diving where a small splash is required, the winner would be who can get the splash to the highest point. With the correct technology, it would be more objective to judge than diving.

  28. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I have a female neighbour who never fails to put out for tradies. She’s thin, looks every bit of her 70 years, her grey hair is lank, she’s got wrinkles galore, her teeth aren’t great and she’s slightly whispery in tone. But she has a way of appealing to the chivalrous nature in men. She’s a little withdrawn, abstracted, gently smiles at them, a little uncomprehending till they explain things to her as they strive to draw her out. They want to help her, she’s grateful to them, then she makes such feeble jokes that they immediately feel superior and flock to do her bidding; while all the time she is playing them like a violin to get exactly the result she wants. A virtuoso performance in female attention seeking, variant 36B.

  29. mh

    Can an Aboriginal spokesman please tell us how many ‘sacred trees’ have been lost in today’s fires, and their location.

    We need a daily update.

  30. Knuckle Dragger

    ADF ‘speechwriters’ should be replaced with Indian plagiarism entrepreneurs who can lift directly out of the NSW Catchment Authority’s word salad mission statements.

  31. jupes

    Prediction – you heard it here first…Pascoe and book will fade quietly away and in five years will be a has-been. No-one on the Left will stand up and say it’s a fraud, but the scholarship will be such that Bitter Harvest‘s truth will not be able to be denied.

    FMD TE! Talk about the triumph of hope over experience.

    The ABC have commissioned a television series of his bullshit and according to Bolta, it has already been introduced to some schools.

    Facts can’t kill lefty propaganda, if they could we wouldn’t be over 30 years into the global warming hoax.

  32. Arky

    Donald J. Trump

    Verified account

    @realDonaldTrump
    1h1 hour ago
    More
    I will be releasing the transcript of the first, and therefore more important, phone call with the Ukrainian President before week’s end!

    ..
    Suspicious.
    He had two phone calls to release, and released the second one first, and now the first one second.
    What is the tricky bugger up to?
    Does the first one have exculpatory stuff on it that will make the Dems look like even stupiderer idiots?
    Or is he just keeping it simmering because it gets the base going?

  33. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    We had this really fat bloke who was a shoe in and we all chanted his name in unison. He climbed up and delivered a textbook Bomb (as opposed to a Horsey, or Suey) with hands clasped around one knee that detonated deep underwater with huge spray upwards. We won.

    I was thrown out of my local swimming pool, for delivering a textbook bombshell, off the top diving board. It was 1971. Who do I sue for the trauma of that eviction?

  34. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘I have a female neighbour who never fails to put out for tradies. She’s thin, looks every bit of her 70 years’

    Please, please tell me that was badly worded.

    Or something. Or anything.

  35. jupes

    What is the tricky bugger up to?

    The second one is the one the ‘whistle-blower’ reported so he had to deal with that first.

  36. Bruce in WA

    Like your 5-litre v*? Try 37 litres in full song!

  37. mh

    He’s playing 4D underwater chess.

    Of course.

  38. Bruce in WA

    I have a female neighbour who never fails to put out for tradies.

    Ummmm … phrasing??

  39. Arky

    The second one is the one the ‘whistle-blower’ reported so he had to deal with that first.

    ..
    Yeah, but that is months ago.

  40. Bruce in WA

    I was thrown out of my local swimming pool, for delivering a textbook bombshell, off the top diving board. It was 1971.

    I got turfed out of Beatty Park for peeing in the pool.

    Admittedly, I was on the 10-metre board at the time!

  41. mh

    I have a female neighbour who never fails to put out for tradies. She’s thin, looks every bit of her 70 years, her grey hair is lank, she’s got wrinkles galore, her teeth aren’t great and she’s slightly whispery in tone.

    Crikey. Good on her, but those tradies really need to lift their game.

  42. Cold-Hands

    The theatre critics in Saudi Arabia are tough…

    A Yemeni man stabbed three performers during a live play in the Saudi capital on Monday, in the first such attack since the ultra-conservative kingdom began easing decades-old restrictions on entertainment.

    The assailant was arrested after state television footage showed him stomping onto the stage in Riyadh’s King Abdullah Park during a musical performance by what appeared to be a foreign theatre troupe.

    ‘Security forces dealt with a… stabbing attack against two men and a woman from a theatre group during a live performance,’ a police spokesman was quoted as saying by the official Saudi Press Agency.

  43. Knuckle Dragger

    You’d be sending the apprentice to Lizzie’s neighbour every time.

    Yerg.

  44. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Hey, Jaxon!’

    ‘Yeah boss?’

    ‘Job for ya at 13 Fauntleroy Street in Vaucluse. Grease and re-sleeve. German backpacker that doesn’t wear undies. And pick up a left handed screwdriver and some striped paint on the way back.’

    ‘Righto boss.’

  45. Arky

    I have a female neighbour who never fails to put out for tradies.

    ..
    Teeth or scones?

  46. mh

    If you’re going…

    San Francisco’s newly elected district attorney has promised not to prosecute public urination and other quality-of-life crimes that have plagued the lucrative Bay Area amid a crippling homelessness crisis affecting urban communities across California.

    In response to an American Civil Liberties Union questionnaire reported by The San Francisco Chronicle last month, Chesa Boudin said such crimes should not be prosecuted.

    “We will not prosecute cases involving quality-of-life crimes,” he said. “Crimes such as public camping, offering or soliciting sex, public urination, blocking a sidewalk, etc., should not and will not be prosecuted. Many of these crimes are still being prosecuted; we have a long way to go to decriminalize poverty and homelessness.”

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/san-franciscos-newly-elected-da-pledges-not-to-prosecute-public-urination-other-quality-of-life-crimes

  47. Lazlo

    Was reading the other day about an 84 year old Merkin woman who put herself out there on dating / casual sex sites. She was inundated (if that’s the right word) by men, some in their 20s. Never underestimate men and their desires for a zipless f***.

  48. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    mh, she wins every time. It’s to do with male chivalry, not sexual attraction. This is simply yet another example of the very divergent natures of the male and female of the human species. Women draw attention to their needs. Men respond to this attention seeking. Culture works on this substrate.

    Possibly I’m exaggerating. 🙂
    Time for bed anyway.

  49. Knuckle Dragger

    That’s it.

    That is absolutely it.

    I’m out. Ewwwwwwww ewwwwwwww.

    Ewwwwwww.

  50. Knuckle Dragger

    Chivalry’s one thing.

    Having to do the honours when a 70-year-old puts out is quite another.

    Ewwwwwwwwww.

  51. Lazlo

    You may change that opinion when you are 70 KD.

  52. mh

    Lizzie, I need to find out for myself.

    I’m going to dig out my Hard Yakka gear, then I’m going in.

    * phrasing *

  53. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Admittedly, I was on the 10-metre board at the time!

    I was in Beatty Park, when a rather well endowed young lady lost the top of her bikini, climbing out of the pool. As she struggled to preserve the remnants of her modesty, a broad Australian accent wanted to know “Oi, lady, if you’re going to drown those puppies, can I have the one with the pink nose?”

  54. EvilElvis

    Just out of curiousity, are all roads in and out of Sydney closed?

    I’m awaiting mail which has been stuck in Sydney since the seventh of November and the excuse is bushfire. Or climate change, I forget which is happening now.

  55. egg_

    Return visit in 2025

    The spacecraft also proved something incredible: the presence of water ice within the planet’s shadowed craters. At the time of its discovery, the The New York Times reported that there was enough ice in some of the craters to cover Washington D.C. in a two and a half mile-deep block of ice.

    The mystery deepened when Messenger’s readings revealed that a dark, tar-like organic substance surrounded many of the ice deposits. These compounds are similar to what’s found on some asteroids and meteorites.

  56. Steve trickler

    This footage, both real and recreated, does not put a smile on your face. Sound has been added. This was a silent film. No harm in the mute button.



  57. classical_hero

    Winston Smith
    #3208398, posted on November 11, 2019 at 2:53 pm
    Mitch M:

    I knew the head honcho of a local rural fire brigade who resigned because controlled burn offs had become impossible in his region.
    The claim of invoking indigenous fire management strategies is ridiculous because the world has changed but their strategies have not.

    I hate being the wet blanket, but honestly, someone has got to be a realist.
    This current Layer of Lunatic Management that has managed to insert itself into the upper ranges of our national bureaucracy will only change its ways when it is confronted by a disaster of the magnitude thousands of casualties and billions of dollars in damage. Perhaps then the people will have them removed – sans heads, but just scores of dead and millions of dollars isn’t going to be enough to bring about this removal.

    We had the Black Friday fires and still the useless policies are in place. I don’t see any change.

  58. egg_

    We had this really fat bloke who was a shoe in and we all chanted his name in unison. He climbed up and delivered a textbook Bomb (as opposed to a Horsey, or Suey) with hands clasped around one knee that detonated deep underwater with huge spray upwards. We won.

    We were entertained in the grandstand as a group were regularly allowed to do a bombing competition on a Saturday? afternoon as Doug Mulray spun the platters that matter from a live poolside broadcast.
    A Downey guy was one of the best, Greta.

  59. Mark A

    classical_hero
    #3210204, posted on November 13, 2019 at 12:34 am

    We had the Black Friday fires and still the useless policies are in place. I don’t see any change.

    The dead don’t vote and only remembered by their families.
    Politics is for today.

  60. egg_

    Dark Emu lump it in with Chariots of the Gods.

    Heaps of stuff (some from reputable sources) of global sites other than the Sphinx predating the pyramids by 5k years (when the Sahara wasn’t a desert) – pointing to the last Ice Age/Younger Dryas, rather than aliens.

  61. Cold-Hands

    75 years since the sinking of the Tirpitz. Interesting how this contemporary newsreel upgunned her to a 16″ main armament & credits the first sighting to an “Australian” Lancaster, (presumably referring to the aircrew, as no Australian squadrons were involved).

  62. RobK

    Can an Aboriginal spokesman please tell us how many ‘sacred trees’ have been lost in today’s fires, and their location.
    But it’s also the space between the trees, we see. (Mission creep? That’s another story)

  63. Top Ender

    From mh’s link above about San Francisco:

    Twenty-five restrooms were added — at a cost of $200,000 each — to help alleviate the problem.

    Especially designed by public servants. Probably Porta-a-Loos on a daily contract.

  64. Mark A

    I leave it to others to decide B P’s heritage.
    Other than being taller than the avg aborigine I prolly would qualify as one, seeing what I’m up against.

  65. Mark A

    Bloody hell I know Ivan Gaal an ex Hungarian wanker. defected during the 56 ‘limpics retained his devotion to communism but loved capitalism.
    His wife is a social service admin used to be I suppose they must be retired now.

    This is a small world.

  66. JC

    That joke is all over the web Ronery, you bullshit artist. It’s even in joke books.

    Lord you’re a deprived imbecile.

  67. Mark A

    Re prev.
    When someone invites people to his birthday party held in a restaurant, is it customary to demand contribution to the bill by the host upon exiting said restaurant?

    It happened. Says it all.

  68. Mark A

    Doomlord delete, all true but still.

  69. Mark A

    Shyte I better stop posting, know too many peeps and am prone to babble.

  70. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Thanks Tom.

    Morten Morland for me today.
    Very cutting – to the bone.

  71. Leigh Lowe

    70 year olds “putting out”?
    There ought to be a law.

  72. Leigh Lowe

    JC

    #3210227, posted on November 13, 2019 at 2:44 am

    That joke is all over the web Ronery, you bullshit artist. It’s even in joke books.

    Lord you’re a deprived imbecile

    93.1% of the posters here are deprived imbeciles.
    It’s what we do.

  73. Cold-Hands

    Deprived? Depraved more like it…

  74. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    93.1% of the posters here are deprived imbeciles.

    You mean 6.9% are normal?
    You learn something every day.

  75. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Deprived? Depraved more like it…

    Nah.
    That’s 100%.

  76. bespoke

    The debate over who is the best libertarian died out almost a decade ago because it reeks of cultism.

    My take, welfare reform then negotiate on imagination.

  77. Leigh Lowe

    Cold-Hands

    #3210254, posted on November 13, 2019 at 4:51 am

    Deprived? Depraved more like it…

    Possibly both.

  78. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Ho Hum. Time to get on with the day’s chores.
    I’ll leave you youngsters to play amongst yourselves until it’s time for school.

  79. bespoke

    Possibly I’m exaggerating. 🙂

    🤣

  80. JC

    Now this is the sort of thing you do to protect against the Left.

    Texas has become one of America’s fastest-growing states, thanks in part to its lack of a state income tax. So it was encouraging last week when Lone Star State voters made it even more difficult to impose such a tax.

    The Texas constitution since 1993 has barred the Legislature from imposing an income tax without the approval of voters in a statewide referendum. But with progressives working hard to turn Texas into another California, voters decided to raise the bar. Proposition 4 changes the state constitution to require income-tax legislation to win two-thirds support in both legislative chambers and majority approval in a referendum. It passed with 74% of the vote.

    Nine states have no personal income tax, and Texas is the latest to protect a political model that leads to higher GDP growth, employment and wages.

  81. bespoke

    If you haven’t seen it Tom this may interest you.

    The Daily Northwestern Apologizes to Students for Reporting News That Triggered Them

    A newspaper staffed by the country’s most famous journalism school says it shouldn’t have covered a Jeff Sessions event.

  82. Nob

    Texas is a great place to do business.

    Employ at will or whatever it’s called means things pick up much quicker after a downturn..

    Wages are higher but houses are cheaper.

  83. Nob

    Texas is a great place to do business.

    Employ at will, or whatever it’s called, means things pick up much quicker after a downturn.

    Wages are higher but houses are cheaper.

  84. Entropy

    Rex Mango
    #3210167, posted on November 12, 2019 at 11:51 pm
    Before signing off, why is speech writer to head of army a uniform position, if a position at all? They used to have low ranking jobs like barmen in uniform, but it was decided that was a waste. How does one become a Colonel whose job it is to write speeches? Like you go to war and you are bunkered down in Canberra busily drafting speeches, whilst pressing uniforms for parade. There are no civilian journos in Canberra who couldn’t write speeches and would avoid the problem of medals and Dept of Veterans Affairs and probably Gold Card for having seen ‘action’ in Timor

    Didn’t Ronald Reagan wear a uniform?

  85. calli

    Rex Mango
    #3210062, posted on November 12, 2019 at 9:12 pm
    Worked with a volunteer firefighter who spent one weekend of firefighting duty, to drive the firetruck around to his house and fill his new swimming pool up via the hydrant, saving quite a bit of money.

    Around seventy bucks worth of water. Unless he was on tank, which would make it priceless.

  86. Entropy

    Facebook is coming up with its own payment service, like PayPal or Apple Pay.
    I am so glad I don’t have a Facebook account. Imagine that company seeing your transactions!

  87. calli

    Loved the variety of “bombing” techniques. Depth chargers indeed!

    And some things never change. Pool parties with my own teenagers – girls in bikinis, hair carefully styled, lying decoratively on towels and trying to look languid and sophisticated.

    Enter the boys, all vying to produce the biggest splash. Result – much squealing and indignation.

    The delightful sounds of an Aussie summer. Nothing angry about it at all.

  88. calli

    Barnaby has really set the cat among the pigeons. Even Herr Flick “weighed” in sorrowfully stating “they’re dead”. NSS.

    No wonder the green senator had hysterics.

    No amount of damning Barnabub will change the fact that creeping green policy is causing untold misery.

  89. Shy Ted

    And in today’ episode of “Let’s outrage the little people” (National Press Club Address) – 2019 Sydney Peace Prize recipients Tracey Spicer and Tarana Burke on the topic #MeToo movement: Women Changing the World.
    Only the little people don’t know who Tarana Burke is (take a deep breath), faaaark.
    Being a little person myself, I’m outraged.
    Naturally, you’re paying for the Sydney Peace Prize.

  90. 1735099

    A Blast from the past –

    How the fires started

    Although the summer had been extremely hot and dry following a long period of drought, the fires that resulted in Black Friday came from a combination of human causes.

    From the Stretton Royal Commission into the Black Friday Fires

    Land owners, graziers, miners, forest workers and campers either deliberately or carelessly contributed to the 1939 fires by lighting fires before 13 January. The causes included burning off for land clearing and grass growth, lighting campfires, inappropriate sawmill operations and domestic fires.

    Many of these fires still smouldered when the hot, dry, windy conditions occurred on 13 January, 1939.

    Judge Stretton wrote in his report: ‘it will appear that no one cause may properly be said to have been the sole cause’, however the fires were ‘lit by the hand of man’.

    I doubt there were any “Greenies” about in 1939.

  91. Entropy

    Don’t respond to the coward.

  92. Bruce of Newcastle

    I doubt there were any “Greenies” about in 1939.

    Also the CO2 concentration was only about 310 ppmV.
    So can’t have been due to global warming then, could it?

  93. calli

    Bush clearance to establish farmland = high fuel loads adjacent to urban areas

    Because fire. Or sumfink.

    That’s one hellava Gotcha! Almost impossible to counter.

  94. 1735099

    Also the CO2 concentration was only about 310 ppmV.
    So can’t have been due to global warming then, could it?

    Where did I mention global warming?
    You’re telling the story, old mate, not me…..

  95. Johno

    Hey Sniffy, spell BOOR for us. There’s a good boy.

  96. calli

    Sorry entropy. Naughty corner.

  97. 1735099

    No amount of damning Barnabub will change the fact that creeping green policy is causing untold misery.

    You post bullshit.
    I post history.
    See the difference?

  98. JC

    I know, it’s the NYTimes and I also know, Brett Stephans and never Trumper.

    Get a load of these stats

    2019 is on course to become Mexico’s most violent year in decades, with about 17,000 killings between January and June. In sheer numbers, that’s a figure that exceeds the civilian death toll in Iraq at the height of war in 2006.

    That’s 95 murders a day!

    In Mexico, all the legs of the stool are cracked. Prisons are out of control. Municipal authorities cower before the cartels. The “impunity rate” — that is, the likelihood that crimes will not be punished — is just shy of 99 percent.

    Incredible.

    But lets give it some thought that the war on drugs up north is a huge part of the problem.

    Mexico is on its way to becoming a failed state and even if Trump doesn’t give a rats, he may have to.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/07/opinion/mexico-mormons.html

  99. calli

    You post bullshit.

    Do I?

    Do continue shilling for the greens. It’s a perfect fit for you.

  100. calli

    Now it’s definitely the naughty corner.

    I may be some time.

  101. Bruce of Newcastle

    So Numbers you are saying then that the Greens’ claims about the current fires are wrong?
    Good to hear you are coming around to reality!

  102. 1735099

    Do I?

    Yep – opinionated bullshit.
    Provide some factual material to back up your assertion – you know – statistics, reports, research……etc.
    You know you want to.

    Do continue shilling for the greens. It’s a perfect fit for you.

    Explain how quoting from a 1939 report into tragic fires is “shilling for the greens”.

  103. notafan

    Weird comment.

    No one suggested any of the historical fires were exacerbated by green restrictions on load reductions.

    We will always have bushfires, part of the natural cycle.

    We don’t need to make them worse by refusing to do fuel reduction burns, not allowing people to clear land around their homes or even take fallen wood for fuel.

    Or by allowing people to live in firetraps, just because they can.

  104. 1735099

    So Numbers you are saying then that the Greens’ claims about the current fires are wrong?

    Where did I write anything at all about the Greens?
    The situation is a little more complicated than binary politics.
    Whilst you and others like you search for blame, sanity might suggest all that angry energy might better be used seeking a solution.
    Examining the history is a good starting point, rather than suggestion how the dead may have voted.

  105. notafan

    Lol.

    Numbers pretending he didn’t comment on his quote.

    Why does he bother?

  106. notafan

    The binary.

    Again

    The go to insult.

    Bob doesn’t believe in Truth.

  107. 1735099

    Or by allowing people to live in firetraps, just because they can.

    Hang about – this is a Libertarian blog. It says so up the top.

  108. Bruce of Newcastle

    Whilst you and others like you search for blame, sanity might suggest all that angry energy might better be used seeking a solution.
    Examining the history is a good starting point

    Excellent idea Numbers!
    We should increase control burns then and remove the legal impediments to removing fire-prone vegetation on private property. Farmers should be allowed to clear their land as a fire abatement strategy.

    Which in history is what people did until the greens made it politically and legally difficult because of the CO2 scare and other stupid “environmental” reasons.

  109. notafan

    Someone found a small hole in the flashing on my roof last night and blocked it.

    Numerous assaults by a pair of noisy mynahs followed.

    You keep a’ knocking but you can’t come in.

    Also discovered in the garden where the scant remains of a possum.

    a couple of nights ago there was a commotion at my bathroom window, so much banging and crashing, I thought someone was trying to break in.

    Torch light inspection revealed a quantity of possum fur.

    Fox night hunting success confirmed.

    not sure of the possum had been foolish enough to come down to the ground or fox managed to take it off the fence (they can climb)

    We see the fox sometimes during the day.

    Hundreds of them around here.

    And thousands of blasted possums.

  110. notafan

    I’m pretty sure it says libertarian and centre right.

    And when did I ever claim to be a libertarian?

    I don’t believe even libertarians claim we should have no laws.

  111. Old School Conservative

    Wear the fox hat, nota?
    (not a literal question!)

  112. John Constantine

    Their Hussein Obama armed his chosen cartel in Mexico. Fast and Furious.

    Their Hussein Obama killed off the competition, as his chosen cartel informed on its enemies.

    Their Hussein Obama provided the special forces training that makes cartel soldiers capable of fighting Mexican government forces into retreat.

    The Mexican Drug Cartel Spring is Hussein Obama’s gift to Latin America, like the Arab Spring was to the middle east.

    Force tens of millions of democrat voters to move to America and fundamental transformation.

    Well worth hundreds of thousands of murders.

    Comrades.

  113. Top Ender

    Outback pollie names the problem:

    MP’s plea for safety first in NT

    INDEPENDENT politician Scott McConnell has questioned the priorities of the Northern Territory Government following the death of a young indigenous man in Yuendumu.

    Nineteen-year-old Kumanjayi Walker (pictured) died on Saturday evening after an alleged altercation with police.

    “If we’re dealing with a situation where there is communities in our NT that are so unsafe that we can’t even deliver basic services – why do I have to put up with my colleagues telling me how important a competition about laksa is? Or how important it is to catch the million-dollar barramundi?” Mr McConnell asked.

    Speaking in Yuendumu, where he said there was no kerb and guttering, no street trees and no footpaths, Mr McConnell said the events of the weekend were symptomatic of systemic structural inequality.

    “We’ve got vast tracts of the NT where there is no functional economy – where there is no opportunity other than some sort of welfare program,” Mr McConnell said.

    “Functional communities need police stations, they need clinics, they need schools, and they need an economy.

    “If we can’t actually support people to live where they want to live we are a failed state.”

    He needs to go the next step…..

    NT News print edition

  114. 1735099

    Which in history is what people did until the greens made it politically and legally difficult because of the CO2 scare and other stupid “environmental” reasons.

    Please explain when this actually happened.
    List the Green policies which specify the prohibition on control burns and describe the legal impediments to removing fire-prone vegetation on private property as a consequence of Green policies.
    Don’t forget to provide details of the jurisdictions in which the Greens have the power to implement these policies.

  115. Old School Conservative

    Interesting to see numbers in full agreement with Paul Murray.
    PM is currently quoting “80% of bushfires are caused by people, with 50% being deliberate and 30% accidental”.
    Hanging around on Australia’s leading libertarian and centre-right blog is starting to have some beneficial outcomes for numbers.

  116. stackja

    Top Ender
    #3210314, posted on November 13, 2019 at 8:18 am

    Wave Hill walk-off achieved what?

  117. mh

    JC,
    Ben Garrison has a Fed Reserve cartoon today ⬆️

  118. struth

    Good Moaning.
    Are all the Koalas dead yet?
    Has there been catastrophic catastophies of Catastrophic Climate fires that we know about at the Cat?
    Has the catastrophic sea level rise not put the coastal fires out?
    Will a moronic troll be able to work out his left from his right, that although fuel load doesn’t make fires worse but if the federal government paid for control burns it would be better logic fail been melted by the first hot weather recorded like , in Astraya, like EVA.
    We’ve only got ten bush fire seasons left before the end of the world, thank god China is building hundreds of coal power stations.
    Some emergency we’re having, hey sport?

    Oh yes, terrible, you know it reached a catastrophic 31 degrees today.
    Well, you know what they say, until we destroy the west and have a global socialist ruling the world, children in England will never see the snow again, and it’s never going to rain on the east coast of Australia again, until it next rains.
    I’ve heard that.
    Well you can’t say we weren’t warned, a retarded child was not listened to by anyone but the believers in holy bureaucracy, on the left.
    She’s actually 10,999 climate scientists.
    Yep, it’s her and Mickey mouse.

  119. Twostix

    M0nty and numbers.

    The left aren’t sending their very best!

  120. 1735099

    Interesting to see numbers in full agreement with Paul Murray.

    Paul Murray?
    Does he play for the Broncs or the Cowboys?

  121. Mexico’s most violent year in decades, with about 17,000 killings between January and June.

    A war zone. How long has it been at those levels?

  122. Knuckle Dragger

    Well.

    I see the Metamucil has yet to kick in this morning, and a certain sooooomebody’s not his cheery, cowardly self.

    ‘I doubt there were any “Greenies” about in 1939.’

    Hitler.

  123. stackja

    UC Berkeley instructor calls rural Americans ‘bad people’ who deserve ‘uncomfortable’ lives

    A UC Berkeley graduate student and instructor took to Twitter to shame “rural Americans” and those who aren’t “pro-city.”

    Jackson Kernion, who has reportedly taught at least 11 philosophy courses at the California university, made the comments last Wednesday.

    “I unironically embrace the bashing of rural Americans,” Kernion wrote in a now-deleted tweet. “They, as a group, are bad people who have made bad life decisions…and we should shame people who aren’t pro-city.”

    Kernion started going after rural citizens, saying they should have higher health care, pay more in taxes and be forced to live an “uncomfortable” life for rejecting “efficient” city life, Campus Reform reported.

  124. Twostix

    List the Green policies which specify the prohibition on control burns and describe the legal impediments to removing fire-prone vegetation on private property as a consequence of Green policies.

    You can’t be this dumb.

  125. jo

    M0nty and numbers.

    These are the best.

  126. 1735099

    Mexico’s most violent year in decades, with about 17,000 killings between January and June.

    They’re on a par with their Northern neighbours who average 30000+ shootings per annum.

  127. 1735099

    You can’t be this dumb.

    Educate me – post the information.

  128. Old School Conservative

    Please explain when this actually happened.

    No.
    You can easily find out for yourself by reading anything by Roger Underwood in Quadrant.
    But that would require an effort in finding and reading factual material you don’t agree with.

  129. struth

    Please explain when this actually happened.
    List the Green policies which specify the prohibition on control burns and describe the legal impediments to removing fire-prone vegetation on private property as a consequence of Green policies.
    Don’t forget to provide details of the jurisdictions in which the Greens have the power to implement these policies.

    Search for Agenda 21.
    It affects all levels of Government but especially eager are the left wing councils to comply all around Australia.
    It’s that simple.
    Are you such a Moron that you think we are talking about the Australian Greens when we say “Greenies”.
    You’re a fucking imbecile.

  130. Knuckle Dragger

    There’s actually a kernel of truth in that.

    We have become so affluent as a society and civilisation that we can afford to carry around a significant proportion of fuckheads to refuse to make their way like everyone else, and demand the destruction of the very things that keep the lights on and allow most of us to earn money to pay for things.

    Even, in rare circumstances, a little disposable income.

    At the first genuine emergency that threatens this state of affairs, ie collective survival they should be jettisoned and left to fend for themselves, much like the tribal indig who can’t hunt any more.

    Sadly, they won’t be.

  131. Bruce of Newcastle

    Numbers isn’t paying attention. Ok, here you go I’ll repeat the link I gave yesterday.

    Fined for illegal clearing, family now feel vindicated

    They were labelled law breakers, fined $50,000 and left emotionally and financially drained.

    But seven years after the Sheahans bulldozed trees to make a fire break — an act that got them dragged before a magistrate and penalised — they feel vindicated. Their house is one of the few in Reedy Creek, Victoria, still standing.

    Oh look it is in the SMH too, one of your favourite outlets.

    If you kill someone with your car you won’t be fined $50 grand. That size of fine is usually only applied to very serious white collar crime. Then being dragged through the courts as well cost them another $50,000.

    Also remember the environmental officer in Queensland who was shot dead by an irate farmer because the farmer was told he couldn’t clear his own land? I do not support such illegal acts, but it shows the level of desperation amongst ordinary people just trying to live and survive – literally in the case of bushfires.

  132. Johno

    Snoffy!! Stop annoying the people and spell BOOR for us. You know it suits you.

  133. You can’t be this dumb.

    Just when you thought the limits had been reached…

    However, it is not dumb at work, it is cunning.

    A slight adjustment. Repositioning of the mantras because of reality.

  134. mh

    Dan Bishop
    @jdanbishop
    100%. I refuse to cower before the authoritarian intimidation campaign.

    He’s not Voldemort. And he’s not a bona fide whistleblower. Even if he were, he wouldn’t be entitled to secrecy.

    Eric Ciamarella is a deep state conspirator. He needs to testify now.

    https://twitter.com/jdanbishop/status/1194060811116957696

  135. struth

    SNOFFY works.

    Socialist Nutter OF Fabricated Yarns.

  136. JC

    Same old bullshit, mh. This time it’s in cartoon form.

    If the market really, truly, really believed the Fed would QE to infinity we would see immediate loss of confidence in the Dollar and hyperinflation. Markets don’t believe that swill. In fact the reason bond yields and inflation expectations so low is because the market does not believe the fed is serious about the 2% inflation.

    Always hold this thought. The Fed can set the inflation rate and therefore nominal GDP anywhere it wants.

  137. Johno

    Educate me – post the information.

    What!!You spent fifty years in a classroom, and you are still dumb as dogshit. What can we do in day?

  138. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Educate me – post the information.’

    It’s everywhere, you monumental flog. Look at the many. many links posted last night. I completely understand why people don’t immediately respond to your inane requests for information when all you do, demonstrably, when presented with it is hide for a day or so and then ask the same question again.

    And speaking of again – YOUR facts. YOUR history. As opposed to THE facts and history.

    Who removed you from your rifle platoon, Mr Locked and Loaded? The OC or the QM? You’ve said both, but it wasn’t a communal decision.

    I mention this not to start up on your award-winning cowardice, but as a single example of your facts versus the actual facts.

    Good poo and a rest, Old Yeller. Go hard son.

  139. John Constantine

    The cat troll is ignorant and wrong.

    Godless commo green-brainwashed activists occupying local council positions unswervingly enforce rewilding revolutionary regulations that stop fire prevention.

    If the cat troll wasn’t so lazy and ignorant he could post examples of local councils that actively support significant permanent fire prevention works.

    That would require more effort than going on twitter to find out his days talking points though.

    Cheerful Squalor equally for all, at gunpoint.

    Comrades.

  140. 1735099

    From your link –

    “Both the major parties are pandering to the Greens for preferences and that is what is causing the problem. Common sense isn’t that common these days,” Mr Sheahan said.

    So it looks as if the Greens aren’t in power in the Mitchell Shire. He actually blamed the “major parties”.
    Correct me if I’m wrong.

  141. Twostix

    This is the old commie twostep.

    Their ideology wherever implemented causes mass misery and so on the back foot they drag everyone down into “show us the law or policy in any communist party that calls for or implements mass starvation!”.

  142. JC
    #3210346, posted on November 13, 2019 at 8:45 am

    Same old bullshit, mh. This time it’s in cartoon form.

    If the market really, truly, really believed the Fed would QE to infinity we would see immediate loss of confidence in the Dollar and hyperinflation. Markets don’t believe that swill. In fact the reason bond yields and inflation expectations so low is because the market does not believe the fed is serious about the 2% inflation.

    BTC price – 2008 – virtually nothing.

    Today: 8,774 USD.

    11 years.

    Let’s just say near 130% CAGR.

  143. A rap across the foreskin with lump of rusty barbwire for anyone that feeds the troll, for the remainder of the day.

    Think carefully before you swallow the bait.

  144. John Constantine

    Godless commo revolutionary activists employed by the State investigated another godless commo revolutionary activist employed by the State for attempting the overthrow of western agricultural meatfarming capitalism.

    On full taxfunded wages.

    Verdict was she had done nothing wrong.

    Then private journalism was done, resulting in:

    A SENIOR agriculture official has been stood down from her federal government position, following new revelations exposed by The Weekly Times that she is a co-owner of at least five animal activist websites that seek donations to fund farm trespass and livestock theft.

    After a month long investigation by DFAT couldn’t find anything

  145. struth

    Can we get slightly smarter trolls please?
    This one is so thick and insulated that it can live in Goondiwindi and play with retarded children, indoctrinating as he goes, and not once have a conversation with actual men of the land in that area dealing with land clearing restrictions placed on them by the QLD government and at all other levels.
    The enthusiastic take up of Agenda 21 by near all government departments, especially the education departments lets us know that we can come to only two conclusions.
    Either they shoved their failures and morons out to country retard schools to get the unsackable out of the road, or he’s lying through his teeth pretending not to know about Agenda 21.

    He wanted to talk to them, but he was scared.
    Last time he did, they paid him out about his shorts and long socks.

  146. Their ideology wherever implemented causes mass misery and so on the back foot they drag everyone down into “show us the law or policy in any communist party that calls for or implements mass starvation!”.

    I can, twostix.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_reform_in_North_Vietnam

    Land Rent Reduction Campaign

    After being trained by Chinese, through the local party-cell, Vietnamese cadres were sent to the village and lived with a few landless peasants. They practiced the “Three Together System”, namely, worked together, ate together and lived together. By doing so for two to three months, they had amassed much information of the peasants and that village, and also arouse awareness of social class by posing questions to the peasants like why they were poor.

    After this survey by professionally trained cadres, the reduction campaign officially began, and there were six successive stages. The first stage was to classify population during which peasants were categorized according to their possession, this was followed by classification of landlords. Theoretically speaking, there were three classes of landlords: traitorous; ordinary; resistance and “democratic personalities”. Those landlords, if found not comply with rent reduction decree, would be arrested. In this case, they had to pay back the excess land rent within time limit, this is the third stage of extortion of money and valuables. The fourth stage is crime revelation, the peasants were made to attend a special course and taught how to publicly reveal crimes of landlords, and they would have a role of denouncing crimes in the front of a number of people in the fifth stage, but the problem was that they denounced for appearing faithful and obedient to the party, so they may denounce as much as they can rather than considered the reality.[19]

    On 12 April 1953, a special people’s tribunal court, composed of peasants who knew nothing about law, was formed according to decree 150/SL.[20] Sentences varied from the death penalty to years’ hard labor, for this point, the most well-known case was Nguyen Thi Nam, a patriotic landlord who joined the resistance war against the French but was sentenced to death.

    The label of landlord is dangerous. According to Hoang’s memoir, as soon as a man was defined as landlord, he and his family were isolated from their fellow human beings and nobody was permitted to talk to them or even have any contact with them. This policy of isolation even caused a number of deaths.[21]

    A court prescribed by a decree is an official policy. It was not a competent court of law and it was implemented to hand out death sentences to reduce the number of successful farmers and redistribute land to incompetent bumblers.

    Much like what happened in Zimbabwe more recently.

    It is sickening that the Spudpeeler is still shilling for the murderous, tyrannical Viet Minh.

    What a ridiculous old fool.

  147. mh

    A rap across the foreskin with lump of rusty barbwire for anyone that feeds the troll, for the remainder of the day.

    Foreskins are a rare thing on this blog.

    Stop repressing me!

  148. incoherent rambler
    #3210353, posted on November 13, 2019 at 8:52 am

    A rap across the foreskin with lump of rusty barbwire for anyone that feeds the troll, for the remainder of the day.

    Think carefully before you swallow the bait.

    I’m sorry I responded to JC’s weak dollar arguments. It’s like Joe Stiglitz and Bob Schiller have taken over wifey’s computer. 🙃

  149. Val Majkus

    Also remember the environmental officer in Queensland who was shot dead by an irate farmer because the farmer was told he couldn’t clear his own land?

    Bruce, that happened in NSW … here’s the link
    Ian Robert Turnbull who shot the officer was sentenced to life in prison but died 12 months into his sentence he was 82

  150. Foreskins are a rare thing

    Nah, check female cosmetics.

    Baby cock in a tube.

    Seriously!

  151. Knuckle Dragger

    Sorry, Rambler.

    Ignoring this shit is what got us several hundred genders, and anyway I’m a helmet man, not a beanie.

  152. struth

    Correct me if I’m wrong.

    Only if we feel like it.
    You refuse to learn so we only do it for the lurkers.
    You refuse to be corrected.
    You disappear and come straight back a day later with the same old bullshit.
    We aren’t responding for your benefit, sunshine.

  153. Also remember the environmental officer in Queensland who was shot dead by an irate farmer because the farmer was told he couldn’t clear his own land?

    I don’t condone violence, but when you’re a tool of government oppression, there are non-financial costs to your shameful trade. One of which is that normal people despise you.

    Rather lame, but I can’t help giving “the brave ones” to each NSW mobile speed camera I see.

    I’ve never met these operators. I have a feeling I’d remark “wow, you have a fulfilling job” walk away if I met them at an Eastern Suburbs Dinner Party.

  154. Why have not the rock ribbed conservatives mocked Turnbull, Hunt etc and the SFL with the ESDP sledge yet?

    “Steggal, Fryedchikinbarooga, Bandt and Wong are all in the Eastern Suburbs Dinner Party…formerly known as the uniparty of doom…”?

  155. feelthebern

    Tim Wilson giving it to union super again yesterday.
    Apart from the AFR (on-line only) it got zero coverage.

  156. mh

    If you want to read Ben Garrison’s thoughts on today’s cartoon

    https://grrrgraphics.com/federal-reserve-thanksgiving

  157. struth

    Foreskins are a rare thing

    Nah, check female cosmetics.

    Baby cock in a tube.

    Seriously!</blockquote

    He he.
    I remember working that out as a young bloke.
    It really does make you think twice about what you are doing with your tongue when she's got hold of your ears.

  158. Knuckle Dragger

    Not to minimise for one tiny second the job done by the fireys and punters in NSW and QLD, but da nooos is now justifying its expenditure on reporters, make up and fire suits by saying the danger may still return.

    Justified by the ‘very high’ fire danger rating, which is when the sun’s out and it’s not hailing.

  159. Percy Popinjay

    And thousands of blasted possums.

    You sure they aren’t Koalas or Siberian Hamsters?

  160. JC

    The name is pretty stupid, I reckon, but the movie, Ford vs Ferrari is supposed to be really good. It’s about a race at Le Mans.

    Henry Ford 11 apparently wanted to impress his hot Italian wife and offered Enzo to buy his company. Enzo told Henry he was a fat American fuck (apparently) and would never even consider selling it to him.According to WSJ, the idea disgusted him.
    Henry got the shits and gave his engineers something like three months to build a Le Mans car that could win. He did.

  161. Percy Popinjay

    Fryedchikinbarooga

    LOL. Nice to see you’ve unearthed the indigenous spelling, Pol.

  162. Snoopy

    I missed this:

    The Bureau of Meteorology has been accused of changing temperature records to fit a “global warming agenda” by a Queensland Liberal senator.

    Senator Gerard Rennick refused to back down from his attack on the weather’s bureau record-keeping practices during questioning of his past scepticism towards the federal agency on Sky News on Monday.

    The Liberal senator again alleged the bureau rewrote weather records to fit a global warming narrative, claims first made before his election in May.

    “I’m accusing them of not following proper process for recording statistical data,” he told Sky News.

    Senator Rennick’s concerns relate to the weather bureau updating old weather readings to allow like-for-like comparisons with temperatures recorded using modern equipment.

    Hopefully Rennick will shame the BoM into publicly releasing their adjustment methodologies. They’ve nothing to hide, right?

  163. 8th Dan

    Well.

    I see there are no further reports of firestorms incinerating hundreds of koalas in Port Stephens.

  164. Percy Popinjay

    Tom, those two Leaks you’ve posted today are bloody hilarious. The rendition of Branson is one for the ages.

  165. struth

    Hopefully Rennick will shame the BoM into publicly releasing their adjustment methodologies. They’ve nothing to hide, right?

    Sure, the relevant Minister will be right on to it.

  166. Sure, the relevant Minister will be right on to it.

    Juts like how Morrison and Porter sacked Mx Chidgley for her laughable please explain notices to Tonnee Yabbot and Andrew Cooper.

  167. Bruce of Newcastle

    Numbers’ copy of Alinsky seems to be getting a workout this morning.
    Truth is so terribly inconvenient to lefties.

  168. cohenite

    The vile troll seems to appear about 7am out of it’s crypt; today it is defending the greens who are responsible for every disaster this country has faced from the bushfires, floods, Wivenhoe dam was entirely due to green policies, and the severity of the drought; all greens fault.

    The green policies about hazard reduction are here. They’re against it.

    The green also support the Paris agreement which demands an end to farming and removal of stock.

    NSW has 870 national parks where no hazard reduction is permitted. Carr did this at the bidding of bob the bastard.

    There are dozens of NSW legislation stopping land-owners from hazard reduction, building dams or literally doing anything with their properties.

    The troll is a creep, a piece of shit; it should be banned but I guess it motivates us to really research the issues so merely describing it as it is will suffice. You should never ignore the left because that’s how they thrive. The troll should be called out everytime it vomits it’s crap.

  169. Snoopy

    I believe Tony Heller is visiting Australia in March.

  170. Knuckle Dragger

    The San Fran press have made an art form out of the Chemical Ali School Of PR.

    Not that anyone had the time to go around handing out fines for shitting in the street, but a decent backhander and an instruction to be on the first stage outta town wouldn’t have gone astray.

    Execute one, educate a thousand.

    But no. Now they’ve publicly said that leaving used syringes, and shitting and pissing wherever they like is just A-OK in the City By The Bay. And, by the way you can set your steenking little tent up wherever the hell you please because there’s no chance you’ll be prosecuted.

    Now the market for hillbilly heroin and cheap(er) piss has exploded due to the herds of derros en route to the place, and the punters there can’t work out why their taxes have correspondingly blown up.

    The sooner Mexifornia’s kicked out of the Union the better.

  171. cohenite

    The vile troll seems to appear about 7am out of it’s crypt; today it is defending the greens who are responsible for every disaster this country has faced from the bushfires, floods, Wivenhoe dam was entirely due to green policies, and the severity of the drought; all greens fault.

    The green policies about hazard reduction clearly show they’re against it. I can’t link to their policy page so I’ll put it at the end.

    The green also support the Paris agreement which demands an end to farming and removal of stock.

    NSW has 870 national parks where no hazard reduction is permitted. Carr did this at the bidding of bob the bastard.

    There are dozens of NSW legislation stopping land-owners from hazard reduction, building dams or literally doing anything with their properties.

    The troll is a creep, a piece of shit; it should be banned but I guess it motivates us to really research the issues so merely describing it as it is will suffice. You should never ignore the left because that’s how they thrive. The troll should be called out everytime it vomits it’s crap.

    Green policies about hazard reduction:

    Principles
    1. Assumptions about traditional European bush fire prevention,
    mitigation, control and management need review in the light of the
    need for ecologically sustainable management.
    2. There is an urgent need to correct the common misconception that
    responsible fire management always involves burning or clearing to
    reduce moderate and high fuel loads generally throughout the
    landscape, irrespective of where they occur. Rather, such activities
    should be strategically planned, to protect the community and
    vulnerable assets whilst minimising the adverse impacts of these
    activities on the environment.
    3. Stricter controls are required to drastically reduce the amount of rural
    burning not required for essential asset protection.
    4. Prescribed burning is only one method of fuel management and should
    be considered in the context of other available options and the
    management objectives of the land in question.
    5. Many vegetation communities and plants cannot survive frequent fire;
    for this reason frequent fire has been listed as a key threatening
    process by the NSW Scientific Committee under the Threatened
    Species Conservation Act.
    6. Further, many vegetation communities can undergo severe decline in
    biodiversity with long term fire exclusion. Ecologically appropriate fire
    regimes are required to maintain biodiversity and functioning
    ecosystems.
    7. Firefighting services in NSW need support, supplementation and
    additional resources. In particular, local government needs to be
    provided with additional resources and finances to enable the proper
    implementation of its responsibilities with regard to the assessment and
    implementation of hazard reduction strategies.
    8. Education of councils, land managers, land-holders, the general public,
    fire management planners and fire fighters is needed and should be
    publicly funded. Such education should target specific audiences and
    address a broad range of ‘bush fire’ and environmental issues.
    9. Education and community awareness material needs to focus
    especially on the threat to the environment and property of
    inappropriate use of fire, particularly burning which is too frequent,
    extensive in area, of excessive intensity, badly timed or carelessly
    implemented.

  172. JC

    I believe Tony Heller is visiting Australia in March.

    Watch, they won’t issue him a visa.

  173. Boambee John

    Knuckle Dragger
    #3210194, posted on November 13, 2019 at 12:21 am
    Chivalry’s one thing.

    Having to do the honours when a 70-year-old puts out is quite another.

    Ewwwwwwwwww.

    Research Benjamin Franklin on the subject of older women.

  174. Knuckle Dragger

    I wonder if Mona’s incitement fest is still up on our eight-cents-a-day institution?

  175. cohenite

    Watch, they won’t issue him a visa.

    Yes they will; he’s a lovely bloke; he’s been here before:

    https://theclimatescepticsparty.blogspot.com/2016/11/professor-tim-ball-and-tony-heller-aka.html

  176. Knuckle Dragger

    Boambee,

    I appreciate the invitation, but no thanks. I await with interest Lizzie’s analysis vis a vis the apparent line of tradies’ utes out the front of the neighbour’s joint.

    To summarise:

    Ewwwwwwwwwww.

  177. JC

    Cronkite

    They ban anyone who offends the ABC/Left.

  178. RobK

    Please explain when this actually happened.
    The Greens political party has had a disproportionate influence on an otherwise two party political system by having a small percentage of the vote .
    Greens politics has leveraged NGO grants funding and participation via professional stakeholders services. Groups such as the Conservation Council, Climate Council, Greenpeace, Animals Australia,WWF and some Unions are some of the main bearers of green philosophies but many peripheral groups are used to coral funds and profile to the cause, such as Lock the Gate. These lobby groups are powerful beyond their proportion of voter base. The public services and academics on the public purse tend to have more green zealots than society generally.
    Many changes to departmental policy are effected by regulations rather than changes to Acts via parliament. Other changes are passed in a clandestine manner past an inept government. An example of this is the wetlands policy in WA. It was tabled 15 odd years ago but knocked back, then it was processed without debate between Christmas and New Year a couple of years ago. It wasn’t re-debated. It is bad policy because it can be variously interpreted and potentially makes all agricultural land sterilised from agriculture. The Dept says this won’t happen because it will be sensible. Similar creep occurred when the EPAct(WA) was revised in 2004. A number of subtle changes occurred between drafts and final. It was difficult to have input as individuals, even as industry groups (e.g.PGA) because the time required to tend to this process. The green lobby was far better able to submit to the process via academia, internal departmental submission and NGOs. One outcome in the past few years is that the Bushfire Act is now no longer superior to the EPAct in WA ( it was superior until recently). Most people remain blissfully unaware.
    Similarly a seperate Act for Declared Rare Flora is innocuous enough at first glance but the process means a big cost is imposed when an ambit claim is made. Many unintended consequences occur which the greens exploit as an art form and make a mockery of a predominantly two party system.
    The Greens are totalitarian white ants. There are many such examples.

  179. 8th Dan

    I wonder if the Cat banner is a photo from the Port Stephens conflagration.

  180. dover_beach

    Just in: Pell’s case will be heard in the HC.

  181. JC

    Her husband and daughter I’d imagine.

    Please God, let it be so

    Clinton says she is being urged by ‘many, many, many people’ to run in 2020

  182. Sinclair Davidson

    Pell High Court thread has been opened.

  183. Caveman

    The Ford GT40 is nicely styled race car. Replicas pull a lot of coin. There was a guy in Victoria making chassis and fibreglass bodies as kit cars which were also going up in value.

  184. Tel

    cohenite #3210387: “Green policies about hazard reduction:

    That policy is gone from their website now, it was up in 2013 and was listed as “under review” at the time, so that to me says they are capable of learning. Even so, it’s important to instill a sense of responsibility in our political leaders.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20140312225943/http://nsw.greens.org.au/sites/greens.org.au/files/policydownloads/Bush%20Fire%20Risk%20Management_0.pdf

    Yeah, it’s blame … and the Greens are quick to do blaming every which way, now they can take their lumps when it turns out their stupid policies were at fault.

  185. Tel

    cohenite #3210387: “Green policies about hazard reduction:

    Web Archive Greens Policy

    Previous posting attempt failed, possibly the link is bloxored??

  186. Mater

    Coming into the bushfire season, it’s good to see that at least one council has it’s emergency planning priorities squared away.

    Macedon Ranges Prevention of Violence Against Women in Emergencies Action Plan 2019-20

    Apparently disaster situations pose particular risks for women and consequently they may be specifically “Blocked from accessing survival essentials: transport, water, heat, finances, emergency plans, support services or important documents” and hence “Forced to exchange sex for necessities like food and water”.

    Read it and weep.

    If we are short of resources to do risk reduction burns, it’s because we are paying people to write this shit!

  187. 1735099

    It is sickening that the Spudpeeler is still shilling for the murderous, tyrannical Viet Minh.

    Only on Catallaxy can you read that the Australian Greens (who were founded in 1992) are affiliated with The Viet Minh (which ceased to exist after 1956).

    Catallaxy is a parallel universe with a unique set of understandings about time and geography.

  188. 8th Dan

    I appreciate the training I received in map reading and land navigation. Helped me to verify the reported koala barbeque at Port Stephens.

    I await with interest the Army’s formal admission that their little 3m x 3m training fire was not properly extinguished and caused the Gold Coast hinterland bushfire.

  189. Rex Mango

    Mater, that link you just posted is terrifying and demonstrates exactly what is wrong with these loons/bureaucrats.

  190. Tel

    JC #3210402,

    The Democrat party donors can’t see anyone even remotely plausible to give their money to. Biden has middle of the road policies but he’s not up to it … can’t keep his nose out of young girl’s hair even for a few months in the leadup to an election … and regularly brain farts. Besides that most people now think Hunter Biden is corrupt, based on at least the evidence that’s come out so far. Warren and Sanders are a fraction too extreme, they might have a handful of dedicated followers but “Middle America” will reject them.

  191. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Only on Catallaxy can you read that the Australian Greens (who were founded in 1992) are affiliated with The Viet Minh (which ceased to exist after 1956).

    Numbers Ho

    Elements of the Viet Minh joined with the Viet Cong against the U.S.-supported government of South Vietnam and the United States in the Vietnam War (or Second Indochina War) of the late 1950s, the ’60s, and the early ’70s. After the reunification of the country (1976), Viet Minh leaders continued to take an active role in Vietnamese politics.

    Encyclopedia Britannica.

  192. Rex Mango

    Mount Macedon got wiped out in 83 from memory, not sure that plan would have helped at all.

  193. struth

    Been studying Agenda 21 Sniffy McTheleftcalledmebabykiller?

    Of course not.

  194. John Constantine

    One of the first Chinese initiatives announced after Xi Jinping’s blockchain speech was for party members to pledge their loyalty, immutably recorded on a blockchain ledger

    Viktoria, under the quisling One Belt, One Road, One Dan occupying regime will be bringing this to their orcs all too soon.

    https://www.wired.com/story/opinion-china-is-pushing-toward-global-blockchain-dominance/

  195. Mater

    Mater, that link you just posted is terrifying and demonstrates exactly what is wrong with these loons/bureaucrats.

    Yeah. Such a policy would be more at home in a Kabul Government Department but it’s ok…”the Greens aren’t in power in” the Macedon Ranges.

  196. Rex Mango

    Hey 8th Dan, keen for your thoughts re Dark Emu?

  197. mh

    Not “rape rape” jibe a big hit with viewers

    ‘The View’ scores big ratings with Donald Trump Jr., earns highest viewership in 6 months

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/the-view-ratings-donald-trump-jr

  198. stackja

    HIGH COURT WILL HEAR PELL’S APPEAL
    Andrew Bolt, Herald Sun
    November 13, 2019 9:38am
    Subscriber only
    Finally, the chance of the justice at last. The High Court this morning agreed to hear George Pell’s appeal against his conviction for sexual assault. It must have found there were legal issues it should or could rule upon.

    I hope it is also aware that Pell could not possibly have committed the assaults on the two boys as alleged.

  199. Mater

    Mount Macedon got wiped out in 83 from memory

    It did and if you go to the Street View link below and spin around 360 degrees, you’ll see that come summer one spark will see it erupt as never before.

    https://www.google.com/maps/@-37.3727452,144.5990935,3a,75y,89.45h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6NLXgDYPoJ44d8dk8CPBXQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

  200. mh

    From Politico

    Hillary Clinton on Tuesday declined to rule out launching a future presidential campaign after her two failed bids, saying “many, many, many people” were pressuring her to enter the race.

    “I, as I say, never, never, never say never,” the former secretary of State said on BBC Radio 5 Live. “I will certainly tell you, I’m under enormous pressure from many, many, many people to think about it.”

  201. Rex Mango

    Mater, clicked on that Google Earth shot and yes the place ready to explode. The Greens aren’t in government meme can be debunked quite simply with mathematics. Politicians make up the top, but only tiny fraction of government. Beneath them are literally millions of public servants, who are archetypal green voters. These bureaucrats are busily enacting the crazy schemes like that Mount Macedon madness you posted above.

  202. Old School Conservative

    I’m under enormous pressure from many, many, many people to think about it.”
    As in “Think about the stupidity of doing it Hils.”

  203. lotocoti

    Dammit Zulu, you don’t need Britannica’s so-called facts if you’ve heard the screaming jets.

  204. Shy Ted

    In other Abbariginal literacy news I was listening to the indigenous hour on RN yesterday and there was an interviewee who sounded like a 13 year old at one of Principal Bob’ school. He was talking about his new book Terra Nullius, which is set in the future. Anyway, I’m typing this from the naughty corner cos turns out he was a she. A prolific author too with one other book and one to come. Which rather explains things.

  205. calli

    Beneath them are literally millions of public servants, who are archetypal green voters.

    That has been my experience since starting up business in ‘94. Ku-ring-gai was the worst, but the malaise has spread from council to council and into the certification business. Only local government, so just a snapshot.

  206. 1735099

    ZK2A uses this to show a link between the Greens and the Viet Minh –

    Elements of the Viet Minh joined with the Viet Cong against the U.S.-supported government of South Vietnam and the United States in the Vietnam War (or Second Indochina War) of the late 1950s, the ’60s, and the early ’70s. After the reunification of the country (1976), Viet Minh leaders continued to take an active role in Vietnamese politics.
    Encyclopedia Britannica.

    Passing strange….

    And the Viet Minh did cease to exist as a formal movement post 1956.
    The fact that ex Viet Minh continued to participate in the Viet Cong does not contradict that.
    I met an ex Viet Minh near Ba Ria in 2007, who had fought, in sequence, the Japanese, the French, the Americans, and my old unit.
    He made an interesting observation, and I quote –

    “You Australians were fighting on the wrong side. If you had been with us, we would have had the Americans out of here ten years earlier”.

    By “us” he was referring to his D445 battalion.

  207. EvilElvis

    There’s actually a kernel of truth in that.

    We have become so affluent as a society and civilisation that we can afford to carry around a significant proportion of fuckheads to refuse to make their way like everyone else, and demand the destruction of the very things that keep the lights on and allow most of us to earn money to pay for things.

    Even, in rare circumstances, a little disposable income.

    At the first genuine emergency that threatens this state of affairs, ie collective survival they should be jettisoned and left to fend for themselves, much like the tribal indig who can’t hunt any more.

    Sadly, they won’t be.

    Bang on, KD. They won’t be, because half the crowd here can’t marginalise their dinner party guests, friends or family that are the exact people described. As with most issues on the supposed ‘right’ side we expect someone else to stand up and fight the big fight but can’t even start the fight at home.

  208. calli

    Used my time in the naughty corner wisely. Now packed and ready for South America. Galapagos to The Horn. And many…many stops in between.

  209. Roger

    I wonder if Mona’s incitement fest is still up on our eight-cents-a-day institution?

    Yep.

    Whatever Ita’s Plan B was she’d better enact it soon.

  210. Knuckle Dragger

    I used to live in the Macedon Ranges, so I took an interest in the linked publication that asserts chicks and kids routinely get the rounds of the kitchen before, during and after natural disasters.

    Priority Area #1 of the MRPOVAWEAP (yep) 2019-20 is to ‘establish an evidence base,’ thereby proudly letting everyone know they didn’t have one to begin with, and that the abovementioned assertions were in fact baseless speculation.

    The Action to establish the Priority Area is ‘Activate the Experiences of People in Emergency Management survey following an incident’. Under ‘Due Date’ they have ‘Triggered by an incident’.

    I’m going to take the high road here and go with ‘incident’ as meaning another Ash Wednesday where entire towns are left in smoking ruins.

    The Measure by which the evidence base in established is ‘Survey data analysed and reported back to respondents and other key stakeholders.’

    So – massive bushfire caused by the Council’s own policies occurs. The survivors are herded into shelters that haven’t burnt down.

    Once there, the Priority is not food, water, shelter, medical treatment and identifying search zones for the dead. Oh no.

    It’s to determine the feelings of women and children who identified as being less than proportionately represented in the decision making process.

    Fuckwits. Fuckwits who should be hunted down and beaten in the street.

  211. thefrollickingmole

    Numberwang is a fuckwit, but we allready knew that.
    https://www.parliament.wa.gov.au/parliament/bills.nsf/C6321BB592FEEEA8482581D8002B7070/$File/Bill49-1SR.pdf

    The purpose of this Bill is to remove the requirement for a landowner to seek a clearing
    permit to clear native vegetation within twenty five metres of a private dwelling-house for
    the purpose of fire risk reduction to be prepared for future fire events.
    Clearing of native vegetation in Western Australia is regulated under Division 2 of the
    Environmental Protection Act 1986 (henceforth referred to as “the Act”), specifically under
    Section 51 of the Act.
    Section 51C of the Act regulates the clearing of native vegetation by requiring landowners to
    apply for a permit to clear unless it is of a kind set out in Schedule 6 of the Act, or is of a kind
    prescribed for the purposes of that section and is not done in an environmentally sensitive
    area. It is set out in the Act as –
    51C. Unauthorised clearing of native vegetation
    A person who causes or allows clearing commits an offence unless the clearing —
    (a) is done in accordance with a clearing permit; or
    (b) is of a kind set out in Schedule 6; or
    (c) is of a kind prescribed for the purposes of this section and is not done in an
    environmentally sensitive area.
    Schedule 6 of the Act – Clearing for which a permit is not required – outlines the
    circumstances in which the landowner may clear without a permit. However the fourteen
    existing clauses of this schedule contain no specific exemption for clearing to protect
    residential dwellings from fire.

  212. Geriatric Mayfly

    At the first genuine emergency that threatens this state of affairs, ie collective survival they should be jettisoned and left to fend for themselves, much like the tribal indig who can’t hunt any more.

    The bees worked this out. The first nip of cold weather and the drones are refused entry to the hive, which stores all summer’s labour. You will find the dead free-loaders scattered around the entrance.

  213. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘the Japanese, the French, the Americans, and my old unit.’

    Without you in it.

  214. thefrollickingmole

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #3210423, posted on November 13, 2019 at 9:50 am
    Good Morning Catallaxy!
    Who’s thirsty?

    And here I was thinking they were called twinks, turns out they are sprites.
    Thats what the ad was for wasnt it?

  215. 1735099

    Beneath them are literally millions of public servants, who are archetypal green voters.

    That’s interesting.
    Public servants don’t make policy.
    They operationalise it.
    To assume that all public servants vote Green is a big call.
    Given that there are 2,046,700 public sector employees across the Commonwealth, and all states and territories, and that the Greens scored 1,482,923 first preference votes across the country, some of them obviously didn’t conform with the stereotype.

  216. notafan

    Grig back to his usual

    harassing of Calli

    for no apparent reason

    nasty little stalker

    waiting for smiting

  217. Old School Conservative

    Had to look up drone bees didn’t I.
    A drone is a male bee that is the product of an unfertilized egg. Drones have bigger eyes and lack stingers. They cannot help defend the hive and they do not have the body parts to collect pollen or nectar, so they cannot contribute to feeding the community.

    The drone’s only job is to mate with the queen. Mating occurs in flight, which accounts for the need of the drones for better vision, which is provided by their large eyes. Should a drone succeed in mating, he soon dies because the penis and associated abdominal tissues are ripped from the drone’s body after sexual intercourse. In the fall in areas with colder winters, worker bees mind the food stores and prevent drones from entering the hive since they are no longer needed, effectively starving them to death.

    Not a very attractive life cycle for the poor old drone. He has one job and that leads to a horrible death.

  218. 1735099

    ‘the Japanese, the French, the Americans, and my old unit.’

    Without you in it.

    Check the nominal roll.
    I was a member of 7RAR for 10 months in country, 5 of them outside the wire patrolling and ambushing.
    Tell me, old mate – how much operational service did you see?
    After all, we had forces deployed during your (alleged) stint in the ADF.
    Avoided it, did you?
    Getting pissed in Townsville doesn’t count as active service.

  219. Rex Mango

    The quote which is approvingly cited above:

    “You Australians were fighting on the wrong side. If you had been with us, we would have had the Americans out of here ten years earlier”.

    So the alternative history scenario proposed is Australia around the mid 60’s, sides with the North Vietnamese Government to declare war on our closest ally and ANZUS Treaty member the USA, who incidentally we had been fighting with in Korea just prior.

  220. Mother Lode

    “I unironically embrace the bashing of rural Americans,” Kernion wrote in a now-deleted tweet.

    Clearly he has resolved the dichotomy between ‘self as big mouth’ and ‘self as gutless weasel’.

  221. Boambee John

    That’s interesting.
    Public servants don’t make policy.

    And Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny are real!

  222. notafan

    Pre contact the total population of Bunarong people (living around port Philip bay as best I can see) was estimated to be 300-500 people

    there are a few people around who claim Bunarong heritage so although not conclusion a genealogical crossmatch and a DNA comparison might be informative

    and what are odds of finding a scintilla of separate heritage on both sides of the family?

  223. calli

    Knuckles made a little mistake about koala deaths – Port Stephens rather than Port Macquarie. Understandable, as he lives in NT.

    I had the hide not to “correct” him but to refer to last year’s deaths in Medowie/Camp Vale and the Mambo wetlands. In other words, a lot of NSW colonies have been decimated by bushfire.

    Apparently this has been a juicy chip for the seagull, though the significance escapes me. It’s very strange.

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