Open Forum: November 9, 2019

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  1. cohenite

    Sandra Bullock is always packing and it shoots just fine on all the other days too:

  2. Zatara

    The CA shooter was a 16 year old American of Asian heritage who was a chronic gamer.
    According to twitter.

    And he tried to off himself by a shot to the head. He fouled that up and is in critical condition in hospital now.

  3. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Higher Arky of needs’

    Got it.

    I appear to be the only one, but got it.

  4. feelthebern

    Tulsi wants the US to copy Australia’s Medicare & Private Health insurance on top system.

  5. Old School Conservative

    custard
    #3212254, posted on November 15, 2019 at 8:51 am
    I have been following Mike Smith and his AWU investigation for many years and have found the whole thing fascinating and frustrating that seemingly nothing ever seems to happen.

    Every time he promises something is about to happen, I get renewed interest but then I feel like Charlie Brown when the football/issue gets pulled away by Lucy/Michael.

  6. Geriatric Mayfly

    The same firm has advised investor clients to elect Stephen Mayne

    Rings a bell. Public pest comes to mind.

  7. ‘Higher Arky of needs’

    nuckels. It was one of the great one liners for 2019.

  8. Old School Conservative

    I appear to be the only one, but got it.

    Slow and needed your nudge, but finally got there too.
    He who laughs last laughs best.

  9. Knuckle Dragger

    Bahahahaaa.

    I see old Dad hasn’t bought your spack pony yet. You might have to take certain ‘steps’ to get it sooner rather than later.

    Give us a bit more of your considered legal opinion on upcoming trials, ya two-line wonder.

    I know I shouldn’t speak to ladeeees like that, but hey. Friday.

  10. feelthebern

    KD, serious question.
    Now you are private citizen KD, do you get some form of health support from your ADF time?
    If so, is it as bad as Jackie Lambie said it was (but considering she only had her issues the day before deployment, I discount a lot of what she says on that front).

  11. Shy Ted

    The horrors these poor refugees have to endure. Everybody’ favourite author, poet, champion of free speech, women’ rights advocate and victim of brutal oppression by Australians, Behrouz Boochani, flew to Manila in the Philippines where he had to wait 19 hours airside, in a tiny transit lounge, unable to leave. “All I wanted was a smoke.” Landing in Un Zud, even before his interview with Geraldine Dog or applying for asylum, he told reporters, “I will answer all your questions but first I need to go for a smoke.”
    Doesn’t he know smoking is the 11th deadly sin? And all the luvvies abandoned him.

  12. Top Ender

    Speaking of games can I get a nice free version of Donkey Kong for my Mac?

    (Asking for a friend of course.)

  13. stackja

    Old School Conservative
    #3212295, posted on November 15, 2019 at 9:34 am

    Waltons bought Norman Ross. Gerry started Harvey Norman. Mayne is a pain. Katie Domayne is not.

  14. stackja

    Top Ender
    #3212331, posted on November 15, 2019 at 10:14 am

    Google search:

    DonkeyKong for Mac – Free Download Version 3.0.1 …
    http://www.macupdate.com › Dashboard
    Rating: 2.8 – ‎1 review – ‎Free – ‎Mac OS
    Aug 26, 2019 – DonkeyKong 3.0.1 – Play Donkey Kong in your Dashboard. Download the latest versions of the best Mac apps at safe and trusted MacUpdate.

  15. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    If so, is it as bad as Jackie Lambie said it was (but considering she only had her issues the day before deployment, I discount a lot of what she says on that front).

    DVA cancelled her military pension, but Centrelink paid her a disability pension. Go figure.

  16. Old School Conservative

    It appears that the “Justice for Kumanjayi Walker” movement wants to either spear him in the leg the aboriginal way, or jail him for life.
    No mention of a fair trial.

  17. Old School Conservative

    Damm.
    him = Constable Rolfe

  18. 8th Dan

    do you get some form of health support from your ADF time?

    Antarctic Willy is convenient, but not permanent. Usually goes away fairly quickly. Like bone spurs.

  19. feelthebern

    DVA cancelled her military pension, but Centrelink paid her a disability pension. Go figure.

    Was that for the back issues she suddenly developed the day before deployment or the boob job the ADF (read taxpayers) footed the bill for?

  20. feelthebern

    Fuck off 8th Cock in the Mouth.

  21. Knuckle Dragger

    None, bern.

    I got $3000 and my marching orders, sadly. I had applied for a corps transfer to Aviation, as although we were using Hawks there were still a handful of leftover Hueys used as gunships.

    Got accepted and the relevant course booked in, but my Company 2IC, a complete cock handed my discharge day to me which was smack in the middle of it.

    I still get symptoms, ie feet swelling up, turning purple after prolonged hot spells and I’ll probably have some vascular issues later, but it’s the price of doing business I suppose.

    I certainly haven’t been moaning about it ever since.

    I bought an armchair, a TV, a weights set and a whole pile of bourbon with the offering.

  22. Old School Conservative

    Looking at Constable Rolfe receiving his bravery medal from Sir Peter Cosgrove reminded me of a riveting presentation from Sir Peter this week about Sir John Monash.
    Focussed on his attention to detail, ability to plan and strategise, concern for his troops’ lives, and the relationship he had with senior officers.
    Told an interesting story about defusing a sit-down “strike” by battalion members.

  23. 8th Dan

    but my Company 2IC… handed my discharge day to me

    He was smart, knew what you and your buddies had done to avoid deployment to Mogadishu.

    Coward.

  24. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    He was smart, knew what you and your buddies had done to avoid deployment to Mogadishu.

    So says Grogarly, N.B.G, V.D. and Scar.

  25. feelthebern

    FMD.
    That’s bullshit, KD.
    If you medically retired from the NRL, you get the medical covered for the injury for life.
    The insurer picks it up.
    So former league players now get better coverage than former ADF members.

  26. Zatara

    It seems that a sane immigration Judge does exist.

    A federal judge has ruled that a 25-year-old woman born in New Jersey who later traveled to Syria and joined ISIS is not an American citizen.

    Muthana had left the United States in 2014 and her child was born from her second marriage to an ISIS fighter. She left ISIS in 2018 and fled to a Kurdish refugee camp. She then began doing interviews in the media calling for the US to take her back.

    Though Muthana has played victim in the media, she was one of the most militant ISIS recruiters on social media. She urged American Muslims to kill citizens in drive-by shootings and vehicular attacks, and called to assassinate then-President Barack Obama, Buzzfeed reports.

    One of her tweets read: “Americans wake up! Men and women altogether. You have much to do while you live under our greatest enemy, enough of your sleeping! Go on drivebys, and spill all of their blood, or rent a big truck and drive all over them. Veterans, Patriots, Memorial, etc day … Kill them.”

  27. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Was that for the back issues she suddenly developed the day before deployment or the boob job the ADF (read taxpayers) footed the bill for?

    My understanding is that she was claiming for back injuries, and depression. A DVA investigation found she was malingering, and that’s the first I knew about the boob job.

  28. cohenite

    This 8th dan troll seems to be a real kunt.

  29. Knuckle Dragger

    Bear in mind it was late 92, bern. As far as I know it was standard practice in those circumstances, and I was still able to find employment.

    After all, I was in the Army to do a job, not get a job*.

    *h/t the combat stenographer. And his daughter, 8th Ladeee.

  30. feelthebern

    Have numbers & 8th Cock in the Mouth touched penises ?

    Factcheck: TRUE.

  31. Zatara

    It seems that a sane immigration Judge does exist.

    A federal judge has ruled that a 25-year-old woman born in New Jersey who later traveled to Syria and joined ISIS is not an American citizen.

    Muthana had left the United States in 2014 and her child was born from her second marriage to an IS IS fighter. She left IS IS in 2018 and fled to a Kurd ish refugee camp. She then began doing interviews in the media calling for the US to take her back.

    Though Muthana has played victim in the media, she was one of the most militant IS IS recruiters on social media. She urged American Mus lims to kill citizens in drive-by shootings and vehicular attacks, and called to assassinate then-President Barack Obama, Buzzfeed reports.

    One of her tweets read: “Americans wake up! Men and women altogether. You have much to do while you live under our greatest enemy, enough of your sleeping! Go on drivebys, and spill all of their blood, or rent a big truck and drive all over them. Veterans, Patriots, Memorial, etc day … Kill them.”

    Interestingly, the Judge saved her from an almost certain conviction of Treason had she returned still claiming to be a US citizen.

    Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

    – US Code 2381 Treason

  32. feelthebern

    Barry Hall still paying 2.30 to beat Gallen (1.60).
    I feel like I need to unload on that.
    I’ve only had a nibble to date.

  33. Percy Popinjay

    A “must be there” event for Sydney Cats – I found this after accidentally stumbling onto “The Monologue”:

    Paul R Ehrlich: Mass Extinction and Collapse, UNSW, 20 November 2019.

    Is there still time to save our planet, or is ecological bankruptcy inevitable?

    For decades, scientists have been warning us about damage to our ecosystems and impending climate catastrophe, but those in positions of power have failed to act. As extinctions accelerate and the devastating impact of human activity on the environment becomes clear, have we finally reached a tipping point?

    Ecologist Paul Ehrlich believes Earth’s capacity to maintain life as we know it is under threat, as we live through the “sixth mass extinction”. He insists scientists should “tell it like it is” and become catalysts for social and political change. So, is there still time to save our planet or is ecological bankruptcy inevitable?

    Chaired by Richard Kingsford, Director of the Centre for Ecosystem Science, UNSW Sydney.

    This event is presented the UNSW Centre for Ideas and supported by UNSW Science.

    Given that Ehrlich is one of the most preposterous wrongologists in human history, I’m not so sure about “ecological bankruptcy”, but “ideological bankruptcy” is certainly afflicting our beloved monoversities.

    P.S. Unfortunately, I can’t attend this prestigious event due to a prior engagement. C’mon, Cats, step up and report back. You know you want to.

  34. I though like all other awful and useless left concern wing trolls, Grigory claimed to be dying of cancer and he flounced?

  35. Given that Ehrlich is one of the most preposterous wrongologists in human history,

    No.

    He is the one true King of misanthropic fake catastrophes.

  36. Geriatric Mayfly

    Released by Clinton and her spawn, the book ‘Gutsy Wimmin’ is attracting attention because of the omission of Maggie Thatcher. She has given the BBC some ridiculous reasons for this deliberate neglect. What an odious creature.
    Here is the list provided on the Simon & Schuster website: Dorothy Height, Edie Windsor, Diana Nyad, Rachel Carson, Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie, Mary Beard, Wangari Maathai, Harriet Tubman and Malala Yousafzai.

  37. Percy Popinjay

    A magnificent example of Arkytecture.

  38. Tom

    This 8th dan troll seems to be a real kunt.

    Nah. It’s just the king of the NSW public service parasites, Googleory, who got his period in all the excitement when Doomlord advertised for new trolls and, rather than use one of his many old email addresses, thought he’d mint a newie to show how edgy and clever he was.

    Trolls always know they’re the smartest people ever born — in other words, zero self-awareness. Every. Fucking. One. Of Them.

  39. zyconoclast

    Several blasts and shootings around Copenhagen this year have prompted Danish authorities to tighten border controls at the country’s crossings with Sweden.

    Over the weekend, Danish police conducted checks on trains and vehicles crossing the Oresund Bridge over the narrow waterway that separates Copenhagen, Denmark’s largest city, and Malmo, Sweden’s third-largest.

    The violence is believed to be gang-related, stemming from disputes involving drugs, money, protection and retaliation. Some 200 people in Malmo belong to about a dozen gangs.

  40. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘claimed to be dying of cancer and then flounced?’

    The Belle Gibson of trolls.

  41. Johno

    Knuckles, it may be worth your while to contact DVA and see about your entitlements.

    You served, you were injured during that service,you deserve just compensation. That $3K brush off won’t stand any scrutiny. Your best bet is to contact the Viet Vets, they have expanded and look out for all vets now.

    It won’t take you long, and if you still get symptoms now you will get worse with age.
    Sniffy counted blankets and they gave him a Gold Card. The closest he came to danger was when he tripped on his lesbian girlfriends foreskin in Vung Tau.

  42. feelthebern

    numbers did say his Gold Card payed for the VD treatments he picked up in Vietnam.

  43. zyconoclast

    Pirates attacked and robbed an Italian ship in the Gulf of Mexico in the early morning hours on Tuesday.

    The Italian Foreign Ministry confirmed that two Italian sailors were injured during the attack, the Efe news agency reported.

    The vessel Remas, which was carrying a crew of 35, was boarded by eight people traveling on two small boats.

    The 75-meter ship provides services to oil drilling platforms in the region and belongs to the Italian company Micoperi.

    The pirates robbed everything they could during the attack, shooting one crew member in the leg and striking another on the head with a blunt object, but none of the injuries was reported as serious.

  44. Snoopy:

    Let’s se the swivel chair commando’s spin their way out of this one…

    Blah, blah, blah, proud tradition, blah, blh, blah, international conventions, blah, blah, blah, international criminal court, blah, blah, blah…

    Purge.
    Down to the level of …
    Actually, just how far down does the rot extend? Any suggestions?

  45. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    You served, you were injured during that service,you deserve just compensation. That $3K brush off won’t stand any scrutiny. Your best bet is to contact the Viet Vets, they have expanded and look out for all vets now.

    I’d contact your State R.S.L. – they have professional advocates, and you don’t have to be a member. Took six months to get my claim processed.

  46. Roger

    The violence is believed to be gang-related, stemming from disputes involving drugs, money, protection and retaliation. Some 200 people in Malmo belong to about a dozen gangs.

    Who knew Swedes could be so violent?/

  47. Johno

    That may be the better option Zulu. I have never had anything to do with the RSL.

  48. zyconoclast

    South Africa’s state airline grounds itself as debt crisis worsens

    South Africa’s state-owned airline is cancelling almost all of its flights over the next two days as it battles with unions over planned job cuts that are part of a government effort to slash its spiralling debt.

    The airline, South African Airways (SAA), is losing about US$35-million a month and has warned that its survival could be jeopardized if the unions go ahead with their threat to launch “the mother of all strikes.” The unions confirmed on Thursday that about 3,000 workers will go on strike starting 4 a.m. local time on Friday.

  49. Leigh Lowe

    Barry Hall still paying 2.30 to beat Gallen (1.60).
    I feel like I need to unload on that.
    I’ve only had a nibble to date.

    Brent Staker has put the house on it at $2.30.
    He’s studied the form closely.

  50. Bubbles

    I’m warming to Pauline.
    Her description of the odious Sherele Moody, terror of firefighter cat torturors – “She’s a dropkick”.
    Go you wonderful bogan you.

  51. zyconoclast

    The head of Customs and Border Protection told reporters Thursday that the Trump administration has still not completed construction of a single mile of new border wall.

    Acting CBP chief Mark Morgan fielded questions about the wall from the White House briefing room, where the new press secretary has yet to hold a briefing for the press.

    When asked about how many miles of border wall had been constructed where there had previously not been a wall, Morgan that ’78 miles of new wall has been built.’

    A reporter then pressed him on how much wall has been constructed where there was previously ‘no wall whatsoever.’ Morgan provided his own definition of ‘new.’

    ‘My response to that is every mile of wall that’s being built is a new mile of wall,’ Morgan said.

    However he then acknowledged that the wall he was describing was actually border wall that was constructed where there was already an inferior wall in place.

    ‘Right now the 78 miles that have been built have been built where there was an existing form of barrier. We just started breaking ground’ in the Rio Grande Valley sector, he said, ‘where we’re building miles of new wall where there has been no structure there at all. ‘

    The new barrier, specially overseen by the president, is often substantially taller, consisting of steel bollards filled with concrete.

  52. notafan

    by friend of Cardinal Pell, George Weigel

    Kraków certainly endured the exemplary agonies of the twentieth century: In its own draconian wartime occupation, when the rule of law ceased to exist, random homicide at the hands of the ­Wehrmacht or the Gestapo was an everyday occurrence, and for five years you couldn’t know whether you’d be alive tomorrow morning, much less on your next birthday. That agony was intensified by the liquidation of Kraków’s Nazi-built Jewish ghetto at the Płaszów concentration camp (best known today from Schindler’s List) and at nearby Auschwitz-Birkenau, where the Third Reich, improving on the Soviet gulags, refined the industrialized mass murder of the innocent. Then there was the kidnapping of professors from the Jagiellonian University and their deportation to Sachsenhausen and Dachau, as the Nazis tried to decapitate Poland’s high culture. The suffering continued in the postwar usurpation of Poland’s liberties by the Soviet Union and the wave of religious and political persecution that followed, in which Poles of unimpeachable integrity and patriotism were judicially murdered. That persecution festered for decades in the many degrading attempts by the Communists to create Homo Sovieticus in Poland’s ancient cultural capital—and, indeed, to displace Kraków with a new city on its eastern periphery, Nowa Huta, deliberately built as a godless incubator for New Soviet Man.

    krakwa geography of sanctity

  53. Top Ender

    Thanks for the Donkey Kong link, Stackja.

    See you in three weeks after I have played out all the levels.

  54. Roger

    I note Pelosi is still obsessed with Russia: “All roads lead to Putin”!

  55. zyconoclast

    GLAAD’s ‘Where We Are on TV’ report shows TV is telling more LGBTQ stories than ever

    Of the 879 series regular characters expected to appear on broadcast primetime scripted programming in the coming year, 90 (10.2 percent) were counted as LGBTQ. This is the highest percentage of LGBTQ regular characters GLAAD has counted on primetime scripted broadcast programming,

    GLAAD is calling on the industry to make sure that 20 percent of series regular characters on primetime scripted broadcast series are LGBTQ by 2025. Further, we would challenge all platforms – broadcast, cable, and streaming – that within the next two years, at least half of LGBTQ characters on each platform are also people of color.

  56. EvilElvis

    SDA also signed off on enterprise agreements that took away penalty rates for McDonald’s employees and even though it appears Emirates, a large employer, has been underpaying employees for years the relevant union never noticed a thing.

    Rest assured though that no small, family business will ever get away with this shit. #lowhangingfruit

  57. thefrollickingmole

    1/8th of a brain posts a link…

    about:blank#blocked

    Well done you linked to the scan of your brain.

  58. Top Ender

    The National President of the RSL Greg Melick has clashed with Victoria Cross recipient Ben Roberts-Smith after the former SAS soldier called on the Defence leadership to step down.

    Mr Roberts-Smith said the leadership in Defence were more concerned with their careers than looking after veterans and that young veterans were treated more poorly today than those who fought in Vietnam.

    He said veterans were falling through the cracks, with leadership protecting their own careers rather than deal with veterans at risk of suicide.

    But Mr Melick told The Australian: “I don’t agree with him.”

    “The leadership of the defence force has recognised the problem with transitioning people from the forces into civilian life,” he said.

    “There are significant efforts being put into transition seminars which is being coordinated by Major-General, Natasha Fox. That’s how seriously they are taking it.

    “We have seen a significant improvement in transitioning people out of the defence force into civilian life and are pleased that families and service organisations are actively encouraged to be involved.”

    Speaking to The Daily Telegraph Mr Roberts-Smith said he could no longer advise younger Australians to join the Defence Force under the current leadership structure.

    “So, from my perspective at the moment, it would take serious consideration before you would be advising people to (join),” he said. “I say that (but) it could change very quickly because it’s all about the leadership.”

    He said heads of the Australian Defence Force should be sacked for their failure to support veterans.

    Royal Commission call

    Mr Roberts-Smith wants a royal commission to investigate Defence leadership and their handling of veterans affairs — a move backed by Neil James, the executive-director of the Australia Defence Association.

    Mr James told The Australian he didn’t usually comment on matters relating to veterans affairs but “on balance though, we think there’s obviously grounds for a royal commission only because it’s likely to do more good than harm,” he said.

    “And something needs to be done to break the sort of belief that the current problems are being fixed.

    “The ADA view is that … some of those arguments aren’t entirely convincing. In terms of public confidence, there’s some advantages to a royal commission.”

    Mr Roberts-Smith said the ADF culture “has always been this reactive self-protection from the senior leadership”.

    Link

  59. Percy Popinjay

    “There are significant efforts being put into transition seminars which is being coordinated by Major-General, Natasha Fox. That’s how seriously they are taking it.

    Yes obviously, you embarrassing incompetent house sized arse covering imbeciles.

  60. thefrollickingmole

    Stolen generators myth ready to inflict more university “interlekchual” based misery on kids.
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-11-15/newborn-aboriginal-children-being-taken-from-their-mothers/11705380

    The damning review by Megan Davis, an Indigenous law professor at the University of NSW, also called for a ban on adopting Aboriginal children from the care system.

    Thats a made up thing. Has she taken the law or is she basing it on “stories my mum told me/recovered memories’.?
    Professor Davis argued legislation should be changed to ensure that formal adoption “is not an option for Aboriginal children in [out-of-home care]”.

    Among her reasons were the “alien nature of adoption to Aboriginal culture, the horrors endured by the members of the Stolen Generation and the enduring impact of the trauma and loss of connection to culture caused by forced removals of Aboriginal children”.

    Intellectual but idiot, with a degree in grievance studies is advising on how neglected kids should be treated.
    Im sure this will end well.

  61. lotocoti

    Of the 879 series regular characters expected to appear …

    If my back of the envelope calculations are correct, they’re going to have to bone fifty of those 90 to accurately represent the alphabet population of the US.

  62. thefrollickingmole

    they’re going to have to bone fifty of those

    Phrasing!

    Actually they will be bringing their own boners.

  63. Bruce of Newcastle

    PayPal Pulls Out of Pr0nhub, Hurting ‘Hundreds of Thousands’ of Performers

    PayPal is getting woke and is banning conservatives as well as ladies who like to show off.
    Which is going to be painful for PayPal as they leave a door open for the new competition.

    Facebook Pay: Social media giant finally launches payments system (13 Nov)

    Speaking at the company’s developer conference earlier this year, Facebook boss Mark Zuckerberg said he believed “it should be as easy to send money to someone as it is to send a photo”.

    Well done Paypals. You’ve just screwed yourselves.

  64. Top Ender

    Over at Quadrant, a scathing review of Total Control, apparently on ABC-TV on Friday nights:

    This show’s got everything any self-respecting SJW could desire in spades. All the tropes are there. The cynical, manipulative right wing operatives. The cynical manipulative left wing operatives. The angst ridden and betrayed Aboriginal community. The pervasive casual racism.

    Your taxes at work, comrades!

  65. Zippy

    Someone else sent me that BPS video, he makes some interesting notes, but what is his point?

  66. thefrollickingmole

    The UK Corbyn party is going the full Kevin Rudd.
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/14/labour-pledges-free-broadband-for-all-homes-and-businesses-in-uk
    Never go the full Rudd.

    Labour pledges free broadband for all homes and firms in UK
    BT would be part nationalised under £20bn scheme funded by new tax on tech companies

    ….
    It builds on Labour’s existing plans to nationalise the energy utilities, water companies, postal services and railways as part of its plan for a transformation of the public sector.

    Labour said the estimated capital cost of rolling out full-fibre broadband was £15bn, on top of the government’s existing £5bn earmarked for broadband expansion. This would be funded from its green transformation fund – paid for by borrowing.

  67. Snoopy

    But Mr Melick told The Australian: “I don’t agree with him.”

    “The leadership of the defence force has recognised the problem with transitioning people from the forces into civilian life,” he said.

    They’re concerned that the demand for gender reassignment procedures may outstrip supply?

  68. Bruce of Newcastle

    The damning review by Megan Davis, an Indigenous law professor at the University of NSW

    Always fun to look people like Prof Davis up. Here’s a photo of her in action in March.

  69. Roger

    The damning review by Megan Davis, an Indigenous law professor at the University of NSW, also called for a ban on adopting Aboriginal children from the care system.

    So…instead of the possibility of being adopted into a loving family such children are to endure the “care system” until it spews them out into the adult world?

    It is difficult to fathom the amount of damage the Left has inflicted on indigenous people over the last several decades.

  70. Knuckle Dragger

    Appreciated, gents.

    Might poke a stick into that corpse and see if it wiggles.

  71. PayPal Pulls Out of Pr0nhub

    Labour pledges free broadband for all homes and firms in UK

    Who wants your stinkin’ intnet if you cant buy pron?

  72. Farmer Gez

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #3212421, posted on November 15, 2019 at 12:07 pm
    The damning review by Megan Davis, an Indigenous law professor at the University of NSW

    Always fun to look people like Prof Davis up. Here’s a photo of her in action in March.

    That bush tucker must be high in trans fats.

  73. 8th Dan

    K-K-K-KayDee. Intentionally self-inflicted frostbite to avoid deployment. Company 2IC knew that. Good luck trying it on with DVA or the RSL or the Vietnam Vets.

  74. This is 10 years old.

    Steeve Coogan predicted the future.

  75. zyconoclast

    PayPal Pulls Out of Pr0nhub

    I didn’t notice the double entendre when I first posted it.

  76. Tom

    Hahaha. Tucker Carlson just thanked the “Murdoch family” for standing by the (top-rating) Fox News Channel since the 2016 presidential election. Being an astute analyst, Carlson will no doubt be dreading the approaching day Ruperdink Mudrock dies and assigns the destruction of his global empire to his idiot children.

  77. Knuckle Dragger

    The failed state calling itself the NT continues to fracture.

    People I know tell me two more remote police stations were broken into – one via ram raid – and trashed overnight. Early estimates are $300K + damage.

    Running pitched battles all through Alice Springs. Cops and security punters attacked by mobs, and almost every non-barred window smashed in the streets calling themselves the CBD.

    Coppers pressure cleaned the red paint off the Alice station because the contractors refused for fear of attack while doing it.

    Five separate ambush crowding assaults on police in Darwin. The indig legal service are running ‘complaints’ that the locals have had guns pulled on them every time cops turn up.

    And apparently the poor punter that was charged, on arrival in Canberra where his family is had an AFP team ready to go and keep the muppets away as he walked through the airport.

    Or did have, until the new AFP boss and former NTPOL chief found out and pulled them off the job.

    No word of any of this in the MSM. Makes you wonder.

    Apparently.

  78. thefrollickingmole

    We have departed the charted waters of known insanity and are now in the bot on the edge of the map with “Here there be frightbats”

    Disney+ attaches warnings of ‘outdated cultural depictions’ to classic films
    The new streaming service has added the disclaimer to some of its best-known movies, including Dumbo and Lady and the Tramp

  79. notafan

    KD is yet another to incur the wrath of the 8thneverseredadayinhislifeDanraegrigrobbiemacetc

  80. I didn’t notice the double entendre when I first posted it.

    It could be a double meaning!
    It has a certain je ne sais quoi, but I don’t know what.

  81. Bruce of Newcastle

    Fillum news.

    ‘Charlie’s Angels’ Goes Ultra-Woke With Feminist Lectures And Climate Change Messaging

    Over at The Hollywood Reporter, Beandrea July praised the film for “unapologetically raising a feminist flag, championing female friendships and subtly making a point about the urgency of the ongoing climate crisis.”

    Hopefully when they travel they sail everywhere and crap in a bucket like Greta.

  82. Knuckle Dragger

    You’ve got me, 8th DOLB.*

    Unlike your dear old Dad, I actually did have a crystal ball about deployment three years later.

    Man. You’re brilliant, darl. You may return to your embroidery when ready.

    *Daughter of Liability Bob

  83. EvilElvis

    Apparently

    Not on twitter, didn’t happen.

  84. Roger

    green Hypocrite of the Year nominee:

    Arnold Schwarzenegger.

    Rides bike with Greta for the media, takes a Pinzgauer all-terrain vehicle to the local shops.

  85. Snoopy

    Wikipedia on Megan Davis.

    She was in time brought up by a single parent and one of her earliest interests was the United Nations General Assembly.

    I’ll take things that never were for $100 thanks Alex.

  86. Digger

    Bruce in WA
    #3212095, posted on November 14, 2019 at 11:24 pm
    I shit you not; this is actually being touted as “fashionable” for men.

    No, there is not a man on earth who would wear any of that. It is touted for poonces…., not men.

  87. Mitch M.

    Well done Paypals. You’ve just screwed yourselves.

    I don’t think so Bruce because paypal is everywhere and pronhub is a drop in the bucket for it. The historical quirk is that paypal initially capitalised by deliberately targeting the “adult services” industry and made a fortune out of it.

  88. Mother Lode

    I note Pelosi is still obsessed with Russia: “All roads lead to Putin”!

    Remember how they all ridiculed Romney when, in a Presidential Election Debate he was asked who posed the greatest geo-political threat, he answered Russia.

    They all rolled their eyes and gave a dismissive snort.

    The stammering jug-eared self-absorbed smug imbecile Obama even quipped “Hey, the 80’s called. They want their foreign policy back.”

    And now here we are. Since Trump won we have had an unceasing chorus of “Wussia Wussia Wussia” and of how far back they have been conspiring and colluding against the United States.

  89. thefrollickingmole

    Knuckle Dragger

    Carnarvon due for “largely peaceful” rioting and criminal damage this weekend as the bury the durg/mentally ill lady who was shot in gero a month ago.
    Could cause up to $1000 of improvements…

    Friend of mine looks like being the sacrificial ‘person who did something wrong” (he wasnt the shooter either) because he may have made an error in a statement about the event. Because god knows there is never any confusion at the scene of a shooting while you are rendering first aid to somebody whos dying.

    Disgusting stuff.
    https://www.greenleft.org.au/content/young-yamatji-woman-shot-dead-geraldton-police
    Among the gathered were elders of the community, close friends and family of the deceased sister, all wanting to know what was going to be done about the murder of a young woman who was known as a happy-go-lucky sister incapable of hurting a fly.

  90. Geriatric Mayfly

    People I know tell me two more remote police stations were broken into – one via ram raid – and trashed overnight. Early estimates are $300K + damage. Running pitched battles all through Alice Springs. Cops and security punters attacked by mobs, and almost every non-barred window smashed in the streets calling themselves the CBD.

    I note that the Indig. Legal Service are on the case, but not on the side of law and order. As I said yesterday, I bet there are Al Sharptons insinuating themselves into this ‘right to protest’ and others of a more pallid complexion.

  91. Mitch M.

    Knuckle Dragger

    Carnarvon due for “largely peaceful” rioting and criminal damage this weekend as the bury the durg/mentally ill lady who was shot in gero a month ago.
    Could cause up to $1000 of improvements…

    Friend of mine looks like being the sacrificial ‘person who did something wrong” (he wasnt the shooter either) because he may have made an error in a statement about the event. Because god knows there is never any confusion at the scene of a shooting while you are rendering first aid to somebody whos dying.

    We’re doomed. I don’t watch much news but what I have seen is maddening because the event is presented as “a copper shot a blackfella” and generally without any qualification to that statement although of course they sometimes ask one to two question so as to appear balanced. The media reporting of this is woefully misleading and I’m yet to hear one talking head remark that the protests are premature because we don’t know what happened. A good rating news story is more important than appropriate reservation of judgment and the rule of law.

  92. Tom

    Wednesday’s highly anticipated public impeachment hearing amounted to a ratings flop, with only 13 million viewers tuning in, according to reports.

    The hearing, which featured Bill Taylor, acting U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine, and George Kent, a senior State Department official, was teased as a “bombshell, given House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff’s (D-CA) allocating Democrats more time to dominate and minimize GOP voices in the first hour. Nonetheless, Democrats failed to live up to the hype, as reflected in viewership.

    According to Axios, Wednesday’s lackluster impeachment hearing drew just 13 million viewers. The number pales in comparison to those who viewed former FBI Director James Comey’s June 2017 testimony and Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh’s September 2018 hearing, which saw 19.5 million viewers and 20 million viewers, respectively.

    Of the cable news networks, Fox News led the pack with 2.9 million viewers between the hours of 10:00 a.m. and 4:00 p.m. EST, followed by MSNBC with 2.7 million, per Axios. CNN fell over one million viewers behind Fox News, attracting 1.8 million viewers. ABC edged out CBS, but both drew around two million viewers, followed by NBC with 1.7 viewers.

  93. Rex Mango

    Here’s the economist who was on the radio yesterday. Think she is in town at the moment. Might be worth turning up to one of her talks. If you put her into google image there are some interesting pics of her naked appearances. Haven’t put her name into Pornhub yet:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Bateman

  94. Black Ball

    Good afternoon all.
    Bit like a broken record yes but there will never be reconciliation between Aboriginal people and the rest of the population. Never. Bet your bottom dollar that there will be no repercussions for the rioters. Going through Facebook has seen otherwise sane people grow angry because of skin colour, not the actions of Mr Walker. Will be keeping an eye on this, but for now better get ready for work.

  95. thefrollickingmole

    Rex Mango

    Urban bugwoman?

  96. Victoria N. Bateman (née Powell, born 1979) is a British feminist economist and academic, specialising in economic history.

    So she’s a Marxist and cannot honestly say she’s a competent economist, she should hand back her degree and pay back the taxpayers for funding her useless liberal arts indoctrination.

  97. Tintarella di Luna

    More fallout from the Royal Commission:

    Former CFMEU, Labor powerbroker Dave Hanna jail term extended

    CHARLIE PEEL
    JOURNALIST
    AN HOUR AGO NOVEMBER 15, 2019

    Former CFMEU heavyweight and Labor powerbroker Dave Hanna has been sentenced to an additional two years in prison after a District Court jury found him guilty of corruption.

    The disgraced construction union figure, who was jailed in February for raping a young woman, corruptly received about $160,000 in building services, arranged by an executive from real estate and industrial giant Mirvac, for his Logan home in 2013.

    Hanna, 55, who pleaded not guilty to the charge, was a high-ranking executive of the CFMEU at the time he committed the crime.

    He was among the most powerful Labor figures in Queensland and was official head of the state’s small but powerful “Old Guard” faction — whose members have included prime minister Kevin Rudd and premier Peter Beattie.

    In a sentencing hearing in Brisbane this morning, Judge Brad Farr handed down a cumulative sentence, meaning Hanna’s parole eligibility date has been extended by a year and his full sentence increased by two years.

    He will be available for parole in February 2023.

    The corruption charge carried a maximum penalty of seven years imprisonment, but the prosecutor called for a head sentence of four to five years to be cumulatively added to his existing sentence.

    Crown prosecutor Mark Whitbread said crimes such as corruption were “difficult to detect” and therefore warranted severe penalties as deterrence.

    He said the wider community would be harmed by such crimes by “increasing costs of construction”.

    “That seems to be lost on all sorts of people who engage in this sort of conduct,” he said.

    Mr Whitbread said the offending also affected the tradesman who carried out the building work on Hanna’s home because they had “no choice but to assist because they could lose work”.

    “That’s a significant feature the community would be concerned with,” he said.

    Mr Whitbread said Hanna had betrayed the thousands of union members he was supposed to represent.

    “He was the one most responsible for his members,” he said.

    “His conduct has failed that enormously.”

    Hanna’s barrister, Mark McCarthy, said his client, who quit the CFMEU in 2015 ahead of the Royal Commission into Trade Union Governance and Corruption, would sell the home that benefited from the building works to pay restitution for his crime.

    Mr McCarthy said the only party that had been financially affected as a result of the corrupt building works was Mirvac.

    But Judge Farr said the businesses that supplied the labour to carry out the building work had also suffered financially because they had conducted the work for free, rather than submitting false invoices tying it to a shopping centre development.

    While on bail for the corruption charge, Hanna raped a 30-year-old woman he met at a Fortitude Valley nightclub in March 2017.

    He was sentenced to six years in prison for that offence and was eligible for parole in 2022.

    Hanna was also convicted in December of destroying tonnes of documents being sought by the trade union royal commission for which he was sentenced to nine months imprisonment but released immediately on a good behaviour bond.

    Hanna has three children, the youngest of whom is 16, from his marriage that broke down about the same time as the royal commission.

  98. A Cambridge B Ec. is a worthless piece of paper. Okay.

  99. Helen

    Yeah, I thought that, too, Struth. Maori.

  100. Former CFMEU, Labor powerbroker Dave Hanna jail term extended

    We have to consider what role Tony Abbott and his relentless negativity had to play in all of this.

  101. John Constantine

    PAL is the australian opium poppy grower and opioid producer.

    Just had a cap raise.

    The Retail Entitlement Offer was supported by eligible retail shareholders, with a take-up rate
    (including applications for additional new shares in excess of entitlements) of approximately
    82%. Applications by eligible shareholders for additional new shares under the Top-Up
    Facility will be scaled back by approximately 31%. The resulting shortfall after the allocation of
    new shares under the Retail Entitlement Offer will be allocated to the underwriters of the
    Retail Entitlement Offer.

    I had no broker firm allocation, just a hatful of shares left over after the stoploss was hit ages ago.

    Tipped in a bit to the raise as a bog standard retail punter under the top-up, now see they are scaling back retail to hand out instant profit to underwriters.

    Cap raises are cruel tricks upon the retail punter faithful.

  102. Mother Lode

    Over at The Hollywood Reporter, Beandrea July praised the film for “unapologetically raising a feminist flag, championing female friendships and subtly making a point about the urgency of the ongoing climate crisis.”

    Does Beandrea think that is what films are for? Is it how the studio thinks it will make money?

  103. thefrollickingmole

    feminist economist

    Jokes on the Poms.
    She has a position for life spouting her political theories all the while being paid by taxes largely taken from men.

    Yet her position is almost entirely artificial, what genuine reason would there be a need for a “feminist economist” who thinks displaying her squashed wombat is an alternative to coherent argument?

    Who employed her?
    Why?
    And more importantly why are either of them still sucking off the taxpayer?

  104. Rex Mango

    Just had a look and not sure Victoria Bateman is in town, just on the radio, shame.

  105. Mother Lode

    green Hypocrite of the Year nominee:

    Arnold Schwarzenegger.

    I saw the photo at the top of the story.

    He looks like Stan Grant.

  106. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Disney+ attaches warnings of ‘outdated white cultural depictions’ to classic films

    POC culture never goes out of date

  107. That would put him at the big end of town, surely.

    Lefty politicians are just LARPing. They’re wealthy people dumb enough to follow Marxism.

  108. Rex Mango

    One thing the South East Asian War lacked was good war poetry. Some great movies, plenty of songs (Redgum, Cold Chisel, Billy Joel, Springsteen off top of my head) but no poems, so here’s my contribution:

    The B52 flew overhead
    As I lay back upon my bed
    I felt the flames
    Heard the roar
    It sounded as if the Parrot’s Beak was no more

  109. Des Deskperson

    ‘Over at Quadrant, a scathing review of Total Control, apparently on ABC-TV on Friday nights:’

    Actually, Sunday nights, and it’s a bit better than the review.

    For starters, in terms of plot, screenplay, direction, dialogue and action, it’s a considerable cut above your standard ABC drama, although the Quadrant chap would probably argue that that only make it more effective as propaganda.

    On the other hand, the ‘traditional owners’ that the heroine – Alex – has to negotiate with are portrayed as a bunch of self-intererested internecine clans, hardly an up-front advertisement for sovereignty. The dude ‘renouncing his Australian citizenship and announcing the establishment of an Aboriginal state’ had previously deserted his distraught – white – wife for a quick hook up with the heroine – hardly a model of integrity. And Alex is a boozer and a casual fornicatrix. (I suspect in fact that the arson episode is part of a more subtle move by Alex).

    As for the major villain being the Liberal Party, well, there’s been a Liberal Government in power for the last six years. It would have looked very odd – indeed partisan – if the makers had shown a Labor government in power, and, as the reviewer admits, the shadow Labor PM comes across as creepy and sinister. The Liberal PM swears a lot but so, it seems, did Kevin Rudd, urbane, well educated ex-diplomat.

    The show certainly has a point of view, but to criticise it as unremitting propaganda is crude. It is full of flawed characters, both white and black and the plot – to me – is authentic and plausible. I would have thought that anyone with any sort of open mind would have found it watchable.

    There are, admittedly some intrusions of your standard ABC earnest mawkishness, such has when a ‘public servant’ of 35 years working in there heroine’s office suddenly discovers there are homeless people in Canberra and starts banging on about our ‘uncivilised’ society – but she did’t say ‘white society’ .

    Oh, and ‘public servants’ don’t work in MP’s officers.

  110. Tom

    The Democratic Party hacks who understand politics have twigged that the impeachment circus will destroy the DNC at the 2020 election, but they can’t stop it because the party’s anti-democratic activist base hates Trump so badly they are demanding the circus continue.

    It’s a classic lesson about politics and leftism’s fundamental incompatibility with democracy.

    Tucker Carlson Tonight is the first place I go for an explanation of the “slobbering hysteria” that has gripped American politics since an anti-corruption campaigner won the White House.

  111. egg_

    I though like all other awful and useless left concern wing trolls, Grigory claimed to be dying of cancer and he flounced?

    8th Wang is a Rimmer-like hologram?

  112. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Some great movies, plenty of songs (Redgum, Cold Chisel, Billy Joel, Springsteen off top of my head)

    Eric Burdon and the Animals.

  113. Helen

    comment re Rachel Perkins and the voice rejected –

    Your history certainly did begin on the shores of Botany Bay 250 years ago Rachel, as whithout your white ancestors you would not exist.

    appealed – where do you go beyond the email provided [email protected]? An editor? who?

  114. 1735099

    One thing the South East Asian War lacked was good war poetry.

    You’re wrong.
    One of the best was penned by Australia’s Bruce Dawe in 1968.

    Homecoming

    All day, day after day, they’re bringing them home,
    they’re picking them up, those they can find, and bringing them home,
    they’re bringing them in, piled on the hulls of Grants, in trucks, in convoys,
    they’re zipping them up in green plastic bags,
    they’re tagging them now in Saigon, in the mortuary coolness
    they’re giving them names, they’re rolling them out of
    the deep-freeze lockers — on the tarmac at Tan Son Nhut
    the noble jets are whining like hounds,
    they are bringing them home
    – curly heads, kinky-hairs, crew-cuts, balding non-coms
    – they’re high, now, high and higher, over the land, the steaming chow mein,
    their shadows are tracing the blue curve of the Pacific
    with sorrowful quick fingers, heading south, heading east,
    home, home, home — and the coasts swing upward, the old ridiculous curvatures
    of earth, the knuckled hills, the mangrove-swamps, the desert emptiness…
    in their sterile housing they tilt towards these like skiers
    – taxiing in, on the long runways, the howl of their homecoming rises
    surrounding them like their last moments (the mash, the splendour)
    then fading at length as they move
    on to small towns where dogs in the frozen sunset
    raise muzzles in mute salute,
    and on to cities in whose wide web of suburbs
    telegrams tremble like leaves from a wintering tree
    and the spider grief swings in his bitter geometry
    – they’re bringing them home, now, too late, too early.

  115. bespoke

    I was a retail union rep learnt quick it was only 15% to do with helping staff.

    Re: gun deaths
    It’s not ethnic it’s cultural.

  116. struth

    The left by typical cultural Marxist practice, are tuning black against white, women against men, and young against the old, and wrecking our institutions, re writing history, and usinf intimidation and violence.
    Nothing has changed except the level of tolerance.
    Our generations, X Y Z or what ever you call yourselves have let those that fought for our freedoms down and now this will not be settled without unnecessary bloodshed.
    Quite simply the revolution must destroy what exists before a socialist paradise can be installed.

    And we are letting it.
    We should be seeing teachers pulled out into the street and put up against walls for teaching our kids to be traitorous scum and crying insanely about the weather.
    Just on that one issue, although a most impotant one, ……….crickets.
    As I have said before, we are not Americans and deserve to go under.

    How many scared arseholes did I have say to me when I led the convoy from Adelaide, Whatdaya think that’s gunna achieve?
    People have said it to me here.
    The answer of course is, without your help, SFA.

  117. notafan

    That would put him at the big end of town, surely.

    I had not heard of Travancore before

    appears to be a renamed inner suburb that I would have still have called Flemington, I had a friend that lived on Mt Alexander road right on the border

    very handy to Flemington’s notoriou high rises and bound on the other side by the freeway I wouldn’t be too excited to live there

  118. cohenite

    Given that Ehrlich is one of the most preposterous wrongologists in human history, I’m not so sure about “ecological bankruptcy”, but “ideological bankruptcy” is certainly afflicting our beloved monoversities.
    P.S. Unfortunately, I can’t attend this prestigious event due to a prior engagement. C’mon, Cats, step up and report back. You know you want to.

    I’d love to but I would get arrested.

    Poor old Milo can’t get in but this brill brained dose of decreptitude can swan and bleat this crap anytime he wants.

    The fact is if Milo were here the astro-turfed yoof would be there squealing in their hundreds while no conservative will turn up to threaten ehrlich with extinction.

  119. Rex Mango

    Film Night

    The lights went out that night
    The 16mm projector then jammed tight
    It was silence for the audience alright
    And I was really up the wazzoo
    The film would not start without some derring-do

  120. Tom

    Helen, the bloke in charge of the kiddies banning comments they don’t like at the Paywallian is
    Daniel Sankey. I’d mark any correspondence for his attention.

  121. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    piled on the hulls of Grants,

    Grant tanks were still in use during the Viet Nam War?

  122. struth

    He said good poetry, Numbers.
    That’s shit

  123. Bruce of Newcastle

    The Democratic Party hacks who understand politics have twigged that the impeachment circus will destroy the DNC at the 2020 election, but they can’t stop it because the party’s anti-democratic activist base hates Trump so badly they are demanding the circus continue.

    Yes.

    Democrat John Yarmuth: ‘My Constituents Wanted’ Trump ‘Out Yesterday’ (14 Nov)

    Rep. Yarmuth, the chairman of the House Budget Committee, told the Washington Examiner that Democrats will continue to vote for impeachment whether the inquiry discovers crimes worthy of impeaching President Donald Trump.

    “My constituents wanted him out yesterday,” Yarmuth said.

    That’s the problem with the MSM. These people lap it up and believe it all. When riding a rabid frothing-at-the-mouth tiger you go where the tiger wants to go.

  124. Rex Mango

    G-Man

    The bone spur would not go away
    As I looked beyond the horizon for another day
    It was do this, do that
    Not much fun in Nui Dat
    Why did I join the army, I shall never know
    Because the G-Man told me to go

  125. Percy Popinjay

    a “feminist economist” who thinks displaying her squashed wombat is an alternative to coherent argument?

    Err, mole, have you actually ever heard an economist (feminayzee or otherwise) mount “a coherent argument”?

    I sure there was one mounted at some point. Unfortunately, the audience consisted entirely of rational consumers.

  126. cohenite

    on to small towns where dogs in the frozen sunset
    raise muzzles in mute salute,

    Dawe is shit. Why don’t you raise your muzzle and lick your arse.

  127. Percy Popinjay

    bruce dawe

    Oh, fuck off. Makes the Vogons read like Wordsworth.

  128. Rex Mango

    The Boor

    How do you spell boor
    Does it rhyme with roar
    Has it got an ‘e’
    Maybe I shall find out in the infantry

  129. struth

    A feminist economist should be a house wife with a set budget.

    We’ve got to get them back in the kitchen.
    90 % of women have no understanding of democracy or facts.
    To them democracy is who screams the loudest and facts are invented by your feelings.
    It has ever been thus.
    Honestly, if they didn’t have squashed wombats……………………………….

  130. Helen

    [email protected] of the Oz contact page for Daniel Sankey

  131. 1735099

    Then there’s this by Lachlan Irvine – 2412370 -3rd Battalion, The Royal Australian Regiment – 20 Dec 1967 05 Nov 1968 –

    THE COCA-COLA GIRL

    (Inspired by a conversation about the Vietnam War with a young student at the University of Western Australia)

    Each week, for just one hour,
    Our worlds converge;
    Each week, the hour ends,
    And we depart
    To go our separate ways.
    Her face displays a teenage purity
    As seen on countless T.V. screens
    And billboards everywhere
    Proclaiming brands of popular soft drink.
    Somehow the curiosity of youth
    Has bridged the gap of years
    And she is speaking…
    I find myself responding to her questions
    By telling stories of another world
    I would prefer she did not have to know.
    For my world bears the painful memory
    Of lost innocence;
    Of wars which must be fought
    By boys who may not live to be
    Older than she is now;
    And those who do survive will lose
    Their chance to ever feel
    As young as she is now.
    The Coca-Cola girls they leave behind
    May never penetrate the walls
    These young old men must build
    To keep the nightmares in
    And keep the memories from breaking out.
    The conversation ends,
    We separate,
    I wonder…
    Have I defiled her world
    By introducing her to mine?
    Or will she now seek further knowledge
    To help her generation to avoid
    The errors of the past?
    For she is the future,
    I am history.

    Lachlan Irvine

  132. Leigh Lowe

    One thing the South East Asian War lacked was good war poetry. Some great movies, plenty of songs (Redgum, Cold Chisel, Billy Joel, Springsteen off top of my head) but no poems, so here’s my contribution:

    Oh so Catallaxy!
    A very white-Anglo view.
    What about Ngo Gho?
    Or Tuan Tran.
    Or Tuan Six?

  133. struth

    Kevin Rudd has written better stuff on the back of coasters.

    We are talking about POETRY

  134. 1735099

    He said good poetry, Numbers.
    That’s shit

    No – the war was shit.
    Dawe’s poetry is brilliant.

  135. cohenite

    I am history.

    If only it were so.

  136. shyte, turd, merde, crap, dung, latrine food

  137. Rex Mango

    Green is not my colour
    It doesn’t match my hair
    Green is not my colour
    It’s all I’ve got to wear
    Green is not my colour
    This war is so unfair

  138. struth

    Well , of course, you would think so, it’s just statements.
    You don’t have to think, envisage, be inspired, the words create no fluid scene ………….

    You lefties have neve been good at the arts, that’s why you insist on government funding for it.

    No one’s buying it.

  139. 1735099

    Irvine has written for years about his service in Vietnam and his life since.

  140. 1735099

    cohenite
    #3212519, posted on November 15, 2019 at 2:15 pm
    I am history.

    If only it were so.

    DVA probably shares your opinion.
    Not for a while yet….

  141. Rex Mango

    I Have a Rendezvous with Communism*

    I have a rendezvous with Communism
    At some disputed barricade,
    When Spring comes back with rustling shade
    And apple-blossoms fill the air—
    I have a rendezvous with Communism
    When Spring brings back blue days and fair.

    It may be he shall take my hand
    And lead me into his dark land
    And close my eyes and quench my breath—
    It may be I shall pass him still.
    I have a rendezvous with Communism
    On some scarred slope of battered hill,
    When Spring comes round again this year
    And the first meadow-flowers appear.

    God knows ’twere better to be deep
    Pillowed in silk and scented down,
    Where Love throbs out in blissful sleep,
    Pulse nigh to pulse, and breath to breath,
    Where hushed awakenings are dear …
    But I’ve a rendezvous with Communism
    At midnight in some flaming town,
    When Spring trips north again this year,
    And I to my pledged word am true,
    I shall not fail that rendezvous.

    * with apologies to Alan Seeger

  142. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Bit like a broken record yes but there will never be reconciliation between Aboriginal people and the rest of the population.

    I agree with you, Black Ball, but it doesn’t have to be that way.

    If state and federal governments simply permanently withdrew all medical and police presence, including RFDS, from any community where any of the aforesaid were attacked and/or injured, the problem would die out soon enough.

    Literally.

  143. Mother Lode

    I’ll have some of that action, Rex.

    All still and quiet in the dark
    Each straining every sense
    A flash of light! And thunderous roar!
    And “MGM Presents…”

  144. 1735099

    AUSTRALIAN POLITICS 101

    We took a turn to the right and then
    We took a turn to the right again.
    We climbed a hill in search of the light
    And after another turn to the right
    We discovered the light on top of the hill
    Was a funeral pyre, smouldering still.

    Lachlan Irvine

  145. Snoopy

    – they’re high, now, high and higher, over the land, the steaming chow mein,

    Whoa! Best line evah!

  146. cohenite

    Whatever happened to the World Solar Challenge?

    Peter Westmore News Weekly, November 16, 2019

    The World Solar Challenge – a 3,000-kilometre car race from Darwin to Adelaide to showcase the future of solar-powered vehicles – began with great fanfare and extensive national and international media coverage on October 13.

    The race, which is conducted every second year, attracts entrants from high-technology companies and universities from around the world, eager to showcase the advances in solar-powered vehicles.

    The event, supported by the South Australian Government through its Tourism Department, and sponsored by Bridgestone Tyres, has been held since 1987.

    With this level of support, it is entirely reasonable to expect that there would be a high level of reliability among the 44 teams, including teams from North America, Europe and Asia, competing in this race. The race takes place on long straight sections of sealed road from the north of the continent, across the “dead centre”, to Adelaide.

    It does not pass through any significant mountain ranges, and takes place at a time of year when cloud cover is low, in both the north and south of the country. With mild temperatures, conditions are almost ideal for solar vehicles.

    Beacon

    One renewable energy website gushed: “In the 32 years since, the biennial event has been a beacon for the ingenuity of solar developers and a competitive testing ground for sustainable vehicle and transport solutions …

    “With EVs on the rise around the world [and challenging questions about their viability still yet to be answered], the innovations of the Bridgestone World Solar Challenge are sure to spark the imagination and could well form the basis for the transport solutions of tomorrow.”

    One television producer, who covered the race for television networks, said he covered the entire race, had 39 live television crosses, nine national news feeds to all Australian networks, thousands of social media posts, and eight international news feeds to 88 countries, and to about 2,000 media outlets.

    I recall wide TV coverage before the start of the race, and the official start in Darwin.

    But after that, there was little coverage. What happened?

    The reality is that the race did not live up to the hype and most of the vehicles that started the race did not even reach the finish line.

    The World Solar Challenge race is divided into three categories: Challenger class (with a single driver, travelling alone); Cruiser class (one driver and one passenger in each vehicle); and Adventure class (for vehicles that have competed in earlier races, usually competing with a new crew).

    In not one of the three categories did a majority of vehicles finish the race….

  147. Knuckle Dragger

    Hurrr hurr hurr.

    ‘Lachlan Irvine

    The WA version of Old Yeller. Activist and ‘poet’.

    Have a go at its website. Indescribable. No I’m not linking.

    Although to its credit, he doesn’t describe bodies being turfed onto machinery never used in that war.

    Unless he was talking about Yanks. In which case it is of course more Seppo bullshit.

  148. cohenite

    We discovered the light on top of the hill
    Was a funeral pyre, smouldering still.

    Just the thing during this bushfire season caused by greenie/leftie policies.

    Keep ’em coming you spastic.

  149. struth

    A Sniffy stood on the Burning Deck
    Reading his little red book
    He’s wailing about a distant war
    when Australia conscripted a sook.

  150. Johno

    Bruce Bloody Dawe.
    I think it was about 1984, I went and got an upgrade to my education and I had to do a unit or two of english. This crap was spouted very earnestly by the teacherette. I burst out laughing and then gave a little speech about how bloody awful it was and, no ,Gough did not bring the troops home.She never forgave me, still passed though.

  151. cohenite

    s

    truth
    #3212538, posted on November 15, 2019 at 2:36 pm

    That’s funny.

  152. Wodger:

    Rides bike with Greta for the media, takes a Pinzgauer all-terrain vehicle to the local shops.

    My 380 has a better roo bar than that. That’s the sort of nudge bar that we see on Mazda 323s.

  153. Rex Mango

    The Stenographer

    As I began the transcription
    I recalled why I was here
    It was due conscription
    And this was indeed the rear
    My fingers hurt with all thes typing
    But I guess it was better than actually fighting

  154. Johno

    Love the poetry. You should all apply for a grant. It’s all the rage.

  155. Johno

    Struth I am stealing that.

    A Sniffy stood on the Burning Deck
    Reading his little red book
    He’s wailing about a distant war
    when Australia conscripted a sook.

  156. Rex Mango

    Pencil Snap In Counry

    Crack! my pencil snapped
    ‘Medic, medic’ I yelled
    ‘Broken arrow, broken arrow’
    Wokka wokka wokka
    Came the welcome sound of dust-off

  157. Knuckle Dragger

    There’s a song somewhere in that, struth.

    +1

  158. Johno

    Rex Mango is tearing up the turf too.

    Give us all some yours now Sniffy. None of that sooky LaLa crap though. Write like a man. Could be a movie in that last one.

  159. calli

    Greetings from Auckland. Stopover. Observation – Kikwis are being reamed on book prices.* 33NZD for a paperback. @ Holy cow!

    * opinion
    @ fact

  160. calli

    And don’t dismiss embroidery so easily. You can really send a message. My tailor’s awl is my favourite implement.

  161. thefrollickingmole

    ”I’m a hero wid coward’s legs, I’m a hero from the waist up.”
    Spike Milligan (b. 1918), British comedian, humorous writer. Puckoon, ch. 2 (1963).

  162. calli

    Is Doomlord aiming for 5,000 posts? This thread is threadbare.

    Beyond an invisible mend even.

  163. Bruce of Newcastle

    And don’t dismiss embroidery so easily.

    I’ve saved up “stitchin’ and bitchin'” for my mum who goes to embroiderers’ guild each month.

  164. Knuckle Dragger

    calli,

    Videoblog please.

    Two minutes in New Zealand.

  165. OK. Here’s a a twist to the scenario being played out in the US elections:
    The Democrat nomination process ends with the party fractured and hysterical.
    Hillary is ‘asked’ to volunteer for the nomination, in an effort to ‘heal the party’ and ‘heal the polarised US*’.
    She ‘reluctantly’ agrees and comes out as the quiet, Presidential candidate.
    Positives – the Hilbot doesn’t have to go through the whole nomination process, and saves her energy and resources for the election.
    Negatives?

    *This is a version of the trial of the child who kills their parents and asks for clemency because ‘orphan’. The US is divided because the Democrats have divided it.

  166. Percy Popinjay

    Labour pledges free broadband for all homes and firms in UK

    It’s already happened and not in a good way. If labour attempt to deliver it, there’ll be a mass casualty event.

  167. Top Ender

    ‘It was just havoc’: Marauding youths leave trail of destruction across Alice Springs CBD

    BUSINESS owners in Alice Springs have been left to pick up the pieces this morning after a group of at least 30 youths moved through the CBD in the early hours leaving a ‘trail of destruction’ in its wake

    ALYCE MOKRZYCKI, NT News
    Subscriber only
    |
    November 15, 2019 10:47am

    BUSINESS owners in Alice Springs have been left to pick up the pieces this morning after a group of at least 30 youths moved through the CBD in the early hours leaving a trail of destruction in its wake.

    Loco Burrito owner Nick Bitar received a call from his security company at around 5am notifying him that two window panels had been smashed, leaving his business vulnerable to theft.

    “We’ve had about three break-ins in the last three months – in fact, this one is probably one of the better ones,” Mr Bitar said.

    “I think a lot of businesses copped it pretty hard last night.”

    Mr Bitar attributed the damage to bored kids who were “out looking for things to do” and said an increased number of young people were in town with their parents attending the demonstrations against the shooting death of 19-year-old Kumanjayi Walker.

    “They no doubt are aware of what happened over the weekend and are feeding off the emotions of their parents,” he said.

    “Kids don’t necessarily compartmentalise as well and it would be great if their parents were keeping a slightly better eye on them because what has (the vandalism) achieved?”

    Tim Wienbuerger was working at the Mini Mart on Todd Rd when he first spotted the youths around 3am.

    “They were kids. I stood at the entrance to the store and they just walked past me and one of the kids was like ‘I’ll smash you’ and the other kid was pretending to throw a punch,” he said.

    “Some of the older kids tried to keep the younger ones in check. It was just havoc. I haven’t seen anything that bad for years.”

    Alice Springs Town Council sustained damage to its main entrance, with one glass door completely smashed in.

    The youths then entered council premises, stealing an EFTPOS machine and a jar of lollies before continuing down the main strip.

    The NT News has received reports that a man was allegedly assaulted overnight, sustaining facial injuries and substantial damage to his vehicle parked outside Western Diagnostics, adjacent to KFC.

    NT Police, Fire and Emergency Services have been contacted for comment.

  168. Bruce of Newcastle

    The trouble with that Winston is the other Dem wannabes who’ve been coming out of the woodwork like cautious beetles. Bloomberg was first this week and now this guy:

    Former Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick Announces White House Run

    Patrick, a close friend and ally of former President Barack Obama, ruled out a presidential bid earlier this year but has since been talking with Democratic operatives and donors about launching a campaign.

    And every supposedly centre-left beetle that emerges gets squashed under the jackboots of the base. It’s quite popcornworthy.

    I do hope Hillary runs. It’s fun that the current two dozen Dem candidates are so awful that she thinks she has a chance. Who’da thunk there’d be that many candidates who are actually worse than Hillary Clinton?

  169. Snoopy

    TheirZoe:

    Bribery, blackmail, extortion.

    Call it what you will…

    Bullshit?

  170. Top Ender:

    BUSINESS owners in Alice Springs have been left to pick up the pieces this morning after a group of at least 30 youths moved through the CBD in the early hours leaving a ‘trail of destruction’ in its wake.

    Retail Strike.
    One week.
    Until Lorenorda is established.
    Grow some testicles, NT businesses.

  171. Bruce of Newcastle:

    The trouble with that Winston is the other Dem wannabes who’ve been coming out of the woodwork like cautious beetles.

    Duzzenmatta.
    They are contributing to the sense of chaos that will engulf the Democrat Party.

  172. Snoopy

    Retail Strike.

    Closed for stocktake?

  173. thefrollickingmole

    Bruce of Newcastle

    Can you imagine how awesome it would be if ‘Illary bumped off Sanders or Warren?

    Bumping off mad Bern probably cost them the election last time as it was on the nose for a lot of the more left Dems.
    Doing it again? Im not sure theses enough Arkancide to go around.

  174. zyconoclast

    Mengniu Dairy Company has offered to buy 100 per cent of Bellamy’s shares in a $1.5billion deal.

    Bellamy’s board has unanimously recommended that shareholders approve the deal which would be done by the end of this year if they agree.

    On Friday the Foreign Investment Review Board conditionally approved the takeover.

    Treasurer Josh Frydenberg backed the approval but insisted that certain conditions were imposed.

  175. Bruce of Newcastle

    Mole – Well Sanders did have a heart attack, although I admit Warren seems healthy so far. When is she going to campaign in Arkansas, does anyone know?

  176. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Retail Strike.
    One week.
    Until Lorenorda is established.

    Also known as –
    “How to get your shop totally trashed in one easy step”.

    Establishing lorenorda is not the job of the shopkeepers. It’s what they pay taxes for.
    Just maybe if the local police were able to do what they’re allegedly supposed to do, instead of risking being charged with murder, there wouldn’t be a problem.

  177. Bruce of Newcastle

    Mengniu Dairy Company has offered to buy 100 per cent of Bellamy’s shares in a $1.5billion deal.

    The reason tiger ladies buy Bellamy’s milk formula is because it isn’t Chinese.
    So now that it is Chinese…

  178. johanna

    Popped in to the Queanbeyan copshop this morning to give a statement about a shooting that happened nearby a couple of weeks ago, at their request. I was up at the time (4.15 am) and heard the shots and various other sounds.

    Never done anything like it before, so it was interesting.

    Was interviewed by a no-nonsense but pleasant woman D who is definitely not a quota hire. She is smart and careful, 40s, slim but not pretty, and looks tired. Her office is in a temporary location while they build the new station, and it reminded me of every cheap and ugly, makeshift bit of office accomodation I worked in as a public servant. The low ceilings with those horrid tiles, the mismatched bits of cast-off furniture, the grungy carpet, the printer being located on the other side of the floor – oh, the memories. Quite rightly, palatial offices for pubes are excoriated, but let me assure readers that this is only for the select. This joint is a dump.

    Anyway, having thirstily consumed police procedurals for decades, I was afraid that I would be asked to scrawl out my version of events. Not any more.

    She pulled up a template on her computer and asked me questions and typed in the answers. She was not above nudging me in the preferred direction, but didn’t cross the line. I don’t want to say too much as the investigation is ongoing, but it seems that they know who did what, and its relation to another shooting, and intend to nab the baddies soon.

    At the end I read the statement, agreed, she printed it out and I signed it. I may have to appear in court.

    Interestingly, the media reports are somewhat misleading, no doubt by design. My (true) version of events is rather different. Just goes to show – we know not to believe the media about politics, to which we should add crime reports.

  179. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    we know not to believe the media about politics, to which we should add crime reports.

    FIFY Johanna.
    G’day, by the way.

  180. cohenite

    johanna
    #3212591, posted on November 15, 2019 at 3:49 pm

    Give those facts to numbers and he’ll have a mournful poem for you in 2 shakes.

  181. johanna

    Hey Peter.

    How’s Boofhead? Still eating you out of house and home, plus kicking you out of bed?

    There is a momentary bit of green around here because of a few light showers, but a couple of days of westerlies and all will be sere again.

    The Golf Course roos have decamped for their summer holidays in the bush. They do that every year. I have visions of them all sitting round a campfire with a falling-down shack in the background, drinkin’ moonshine and singing ribald songs.

  182. Bruce of Newcastle

    Pigs may not fly but pig viruses do.

    South Korea Slaughters 380,000 Pigs After China’s Pig Ebola Crosses Border

    Just last week, we warned about China exporting the hog-killing disease to Russia. Now it appears North Korea, a country that borders China, has already exported the virus to South Korea.

    South Korean authorities have been scrambling to contain the outbreak since mid-September.

    A new report from Reuters, indicates 380,000 pigs have been slaughtered since the end of September, in the northern region bordering North Korea.

    Russia probably doesn’t have too many pigs in Eastern Siberia but the poor Sth Korean government will be terrified. And who knows what the damage is in Nth Korea, which has been having bad harvests as well.

    North Korea ‘facing poor harvest’ amid food shortages (9 Nov)

    North Korea’s harvest is predicted to be worse than usual, exacerbating already severe food shortages in the country, a monitoring group says.

    Using satellite images, Swiss-based Geoglam said drought had affected crops in an area known as the “cereal bowl”.

    The UN says four in 10 North Koreans need food aid and crop production is at its lowest level in five years.

    Their harvest was bad last year too.

  183. Johno

    Just had an interesting experience. Received my 90 day electricity bill, thought it was outrageous, so I hunted around, apparently the good government has a site called Energy made easy. So I visit and they have comparison options for a load of retailers. I select one, type in all the info off my latest bill and press the button.Voila!!! Can save a motza if I change over. Tried another site and same thing. You beauty,then I notice my retailer is there, so I just type my usage, etc in and guess what? I can save a motza as well.
    So I contact my retailer and they are completely flabbered and gasted. Search around and assure me that I am on the cheapest plan and there is no way that they can supply electricity at the prices shown on the Gov site. No way, so I suggest they contact the Good Gov site and complain. Nuh, not gunna happen.
    So I am sitting here , drinking a brew and contemplating my next move. I suppose I should be more concerned about this, however I recall that some one on this blog said he had done a comparison of a dozen or so retailers and in a $600 bill there wasn’t $5 between them. Anyone else recall that?

  184. Tom

    After the first two days of the impeachment fiasco bombed with voters, the Dems desperately want a female to cry hysterically about da ebil Trump on Friday (US time) — tomorrow AEDT. That is to say, the Dems need a star performance from former ambassador Marie Yoganovitch — an Obama holdover sacked by Trump earlier this year for undermining the new US presidency.

    In other words, the impeachment fiasco is already dead on arrival and the stupid fucking Dems need to turn it into a scripted Hollywood tear-fest to try to convince the electorate it isn’t what it is — another desperate attempt to annul the 2016 election.

    PS: just for laughs, read the second link in which the Wikipedia zombies are trying to use Yovanovitch to smear Trump.

  185. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Hi Johanna.

    Boofhead continues to eat me out of house and home, plus take over the bed at night. At least I’ve got the recliner rocker back – I scored a large, padded footstool to go with it, and he has commandeered that his day-bed.

    If you haven’t had any meaningful rain by now, you’re in for a long, dry summer. As for the roos, you are right. They will be off somewhere planning their autumn campaign against new green stuff.

  186. there wasn’t $5 between them.

    I found that there was heaps of difference.
    Amidst all the discounts and BS. You can derive a price per kwh.
    Red energy was way cheaper for me (30% less than many others), Alinta not far behind, but they are awful to deal with.

  187. Tom

    So I am sitting here , drinking a brew and contemplating my next move.

    Johno, report them to the ACCC — and make sure you tell the power company. They’ll shit bricks then make you a paltry peace offering. Tell them to get fucked and to take it up with the ACCC.

    Should be fun.

  188. Johno

    Incoherent, thanks for that. I also have a 10KW solar system and am only receiving 8c a KWH.

    Anyone else got any clues as to this mystery.?

  189. Johno

    Tom, the jugular is always an option, but it should always be the 2nd or 3rd one . I am more intrigued and mystified by this whole thing. Interesting isn’t it?

  190. Re: electricity.

    Why o why can’t customers choose their generator.
    e.g. Coal only please.

  191. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    So I am sitting here , drinking a brew and contemplating my next move.

    Good luck with that. I am engaged in a fight to the death with AGL over our final account when we moved from Bribie Island, to the granny flat. That was back in August 2014, over five years ago.

    .
    PS – No, it probably won’t be fun.

  192. Snoopy

    Why o why can’t customers choose their generator.
    e.g. Coal only please.

    Or solar
    Or wind
    Or gas
    Or hydro

    Pick one. Just one.

  193. Johno

    My understanding of the situation is that these people are only retailers. They all buy their electricity from the same guy and charge you for the pleasure of passing it on.The only differences can be their desire to hold onto as much as they can. Of course ,the big existing coys at the time the market was opened up have an advantage because the average punter hates change.
    I might just do a bit more digging. The new coys may be the way.

  194. Bruce of Newcastle

    the Dems need a star performance from former ambassador Marie Yoganovitch

    Good luck with that. She has lots of baggage:

    The real Ukraine controversy: an activist U.S. embassy and its adherence to the Geneva Convention (14 Nov)

    The first time I ever heard the name of U.S. ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch was in early March of this year.(Snip) It came from a career diplomat I was interviewing (Snip)I learned that Ukrainian officials, particularly the country’s prosecutors, viewed Yovanovitch as the embodiment of an activist U.S. embassy in Kiev that ruffled feathers by meddling in internal law enforcement cases inside the country.

    RTWT at the linked link. If Trump’s guys can manage to get John Solomon to testify against her she will be nailed to the wall like a bug.

    She’s also been caught apparently lying under oath recently.

    Not surprised if she ends up in an orange jumpsuit along with the Bidens and John Kerry, who was also fingered as a Bursima beneficiary today.

  195. Des Deskperson

    ‘Popped in to the Queanbeyan copshop this morning to give a statement about a shooting that happened nearby a couple of weeks ago, at their request. ‘

    That shooting was initially linked to a similar shooting in inner city Canberra – Forrest – although in that case they arrested the alleged gunman pretty quickly.

    The vox populi reaction to the Canberra shooting showed up once again the divide between inner and outer Canberra, The inner city locals were insisting that things like that never happen in Canberra, seemingly ignorant of the regular shootings and fire bombings – with casualties – happening down in Kambah and other parts of the south west. .

    The alleged gunman came, of course, from Rivett, currently Canberra’s murder capital – next suburb to me. His name, coincidentally, was Forrest. Of course, the UC journo graduate kiddie who reported for the ABC may simply have gotten the names confused.

  196. Top Ender

    Worth a read:

    HUMANITY’S MASTERWORKS BELONG TO US ALL

    HENRY ERGAS

    Calls for the return of artworks to their country of origin ignore a glorious reality

    Were there a literary prize for grotesque exaggeration, celebrity QC Geoffrey Robertson’s latest book would win it with ease.

    It is, in effect, hard to believe anyone could seriously compare the scientists at Britain’s Natural History Museum, who were proposing to undertake tests on the remains of long-dead Tasmanian Aborigines, with Auschwitz’s notorious Dr Mengele, who conducted inhuman experiments on Jewish children before cutting them up while they were still alive.

    But however repugnant Robertson’s assimilation of the two may be, the fundamental flaws of his portentously titled Who Owns History? do not lie in its many errors of judgment.

    Rather, they involve the assumptions on which its case against the West’s great museums rests. Calling those institutions “museums of blood”, Robertson argues that their holdings of ancient and primitive art are largely the result of looting and expropriation and claims justice requires returning the holdings to their countries of origin.

    Those arguments are, of course, scarcely original. Having long been highlighted by disputes over the Elgin Marbles and the bust of Nefertiti, they received powerful impetus in 2017 when France’s then newly elected President Emmanuel Macron commissioned Senegalese economist Felwine Sarr and French historian Benedicte Savoy to report on the collections of African art held in the country’s museums.

    Robertson misleadingly claims the French government has endorsed Sarr and Savoy’s recommendations, which involved large scale restitution. In reality it jettisoned them almost as soon as their report appeared.

    But, however limited its practical effects may be, the Sarr-Savoy report, which Robertson effusively praises, has the merit of clearly articulating the premises underlying the latest battle cry of the cultural “progressives”.

    There is, in those premises, an important element of truth.

    Many magnificent works of art were looted by the European powers in the course of their colonial expansion. It is, however, one thing to recognise colonialism’s grim past and quite another to describe Europe’s vast collections as soaked in blood.

    After all, long before decolonisation there was a flourishing market for artworks in the European colonies and, while that market was informal and poorly documented, it is simply incorrect to assume it involved trades that were inherently unconscionable, as Sarr-Savoy and Robertson do.

    On the contrary, the fact that as early as the 17th century many works were made to be sold to the Europeans suggests the profits the producers could secure were more than sufficient to attract a voluntary, rapidly expanding supply.

    Moreover, 60 to 70 per cent of the works in the West’s collections were acquired after the former colonies had become independent. Yes, some of those works were stolen, but by far the greatest thieves were the rulers of the newly independent states who pillaged the substantial holdings they had inherited, leaving once gleaming national museums threadbare and destitute.

    Unfortunately, far from improving, as Sarr-Savoy and Robertson inexplicably contend, the situation has since deteriorated in many of the countries that are now aggressively pursuing restitution claims.

    Benin, whose world-famous masks Sarr-Savoy and Robertson focus on, is a case in point.

    Romuald Hazoume, the country’s most prominent contemporary artist, estimates that 300 culturally significant works have been illegally sold into private hands from the museum in Abomey, which houses the fabulous relics of the ancient kingdom of Dahomey, without any attempt being made to retrieve them.

    Instead, despite strenuous objections by Hazoume and by the director of its own national museum, Benin’s government has demanded the return of artworks from museums in Europe and North America, presumably so as to replenish the stock that can then be looted.

    And Benin is far from being alone in that respect, with the outlook being every bit as dire in countries that stretch from Mauritania in Africa’s far west to Tajikistan in Asia’s far east.

    But the risks artworks face in those countries do not arise solely from predatory governments.

    Rather, as many studies have shown, rising education levels in the Third World have been associated with the replacement of syncretic forms of Islam, which tolerated animist icons, by harsher forms of Islam that insist on their destruction.

    Well before Islamic State appeared on the scene, stunning artefacts such as the 11th-century Djennenke statues from Mali were being abandoned or destroyed and would have vanished forever from the human record had institutions such as Switzerland’s Barbier-Mueller Foundation and France’s Musee d’Ethnographie not intervened to save them.

    However, all that appears to Sarr-Savoy and Robertson as merely a temporary obstacle, which the West must somehow overcome, to achieving their ultimate objective: a world in which each country’s museums act as the primary repository of its national cultural legacy.

    “The trouble,” Sarr and Savoy bluntly state, “begins when a museum ceases to be national and becomes that of another (country).”

    Or as Robertson puts it, every country should “own” its past, allowing it to control its national “narrative”.

    But why would the world be a better place were Leonardo’s Mona Lisa in Italy and Picasso’s paintings mainly in Spain?

    The pioneers of the Enlightenment, who encouraged the formation of what became the great museums, believed the exact opposite: that those institutions should display a selection of humanity’s masterpieces, proving no single country or people had a monopoly over artistic genius.

    It was in that spirit that French poet Guillaume Apollinaire penned his famous declaration of 1909 that urged the Louvre to collect and exhibit African art, as that would allow the public to realise those works were “no less moving than the masterpieces of European sculpture”. And it was in that spirit that collectors such as Andre Breton, Tristan Tzara and Charles Ratton chose to put their superb holdings of African art on display in the mid-1930s, as the strongest response to the Nazis’ claims that blacks were subhuman.

    The goal, in other words, should not be for Africa to house the bulk of African art.

    It should be for young Africans to benefit from, and be inspired by, institutions that are every bit as universal as the Louvre or the Metropolitan.

    And, far from their past being “owned” by their national government, what young Africans should demand is that the past be viewed as the common heritage of all mankind, whose narrative deserves to be shaped by as many freely competing voices as mould our understanding of the history of the West.

    Whether that dream will ever be realised, it is impossible to say.

    What is certain is that Sarr-Savoy and Robertson would lead us in precisely the opposite direction. If that is the best the “progressives” can do, they scarcely deserve the name.

  197. johanna

    Re energy retailers – it’s bait and switch. Their fixed costs are about the same, and they buy from the same sources. You can save a few dollars by shopping around, but unless you are (a) a penny pincher or (b) desperate to save every single dollar because you have to, it’s not worth it. You might save a take away coffee a week.

    I just paid my big winter gas and electricity bills, and saved on last year by a couple of hundred dollars, although prices have risen. Not by changing providers, but by figuring out how to use my heating better. For example, a bar radiator is a ridiculously expensive form of heating, but I discovered that having one pointed at me and my big leather chair is cheaper than heating the whole downstairs nonstop via central heating. When it got really cold, I would hit the central heating for 15 minutes or so, then turn it off.

    Mind you, it is pathetic to have to live like a poor student again, in a little bubble of warmth within a cold living space, wearing three layers of clothing and double socks. And, if I was relying on just the age pension, I would be sunk. Who has a lazy grand lying around just for a quarter’s gas and electricity?

  198. Shy Ted

    Tom, you missed a Midweek in Pictures. Off to the naughty corner til 4am tomorrow! Free PhD in the comments.

  199. Opposite experience johanna.
    Run electric heating pretty much non stop over winter/spring. Minimized gas usage.
    Electricity bills less than last year.

  200. zyconoclast

    Iberdrola, the largest wind energy producer in the world, will make its debut in the Australian market with a $500 million hybrid solar and wind farm planned for South Australia.

    The 320 megawatt plant, to be built near Adelaide, would be operational by 2021, and is part of a 650MW plan for wind and solar investments planned for South Australia and Queensland, the company said.

  201. dopey

    Geez this is boring. Bring back the Pell stuff.

  202. Bruce of Newcastle

    If anyone is interested in Lurch and his dealings in Ukraine, here’s the story:

    HUGE! EXCLUSIVE BOMBSHELL: Documents Released by Ukrainian General Prosecutor’s Office Reveal MILLIONS Funneled to Hunter Biden and the John Kerry Family

    Joe Hoft seems a trifle excited. He may be right in that. The swamp is deep and corrupt. But the Dem’s Ukraine strategy is starting to look like Russian Interior Minister Plehve’s wish in 1904 for a “small victorious war” with Japan.

  203. Tom

    Voila!!! Can save a motza if I change over. Tried another site and same thing. You beauty,then I notice my retailer is there, so I just type my usage, etc in and guess what? I can save a motza as well.
    So I contact my retailer and they are completely flabbered and gasted. Search around and assure me that I am on the cheapest plan and there is no way that they can supply electricity at the prices shown on the Gov site.

    Johno, I need to emphasise what your power retailer is doing — advertising a cheaper rate, then refusing to give it to you — is illegal under Australian competition law. The ACCC is red-hot about this stuff: it’s an open-and-shut case. They are gone for all money.

    They’re subsidy miners and the Australian electricity market is now the most lucrative in the world for retailers as a result of government incentives for ruinables. Your retailer is a carpet bagger which wouldn’t know real competition if if bit them on the balls.

    Fuck ’em. Go after the pricks.

  204. Top Ender

    Territory MP calls for coppers to be armed with harsh words only:

    The local MP for the region, Scott McConnell, joined calls for a review of police weapons in remote communities.

    “I think it’s absolutely inappropriate for police to be armed the way they are in remote communities. It’s not just the firearms, it’s the Taser and everything else. It’s even the uniform,” he said.

    “It may well be appropriate in built-up areas … but I’m calling for there to be less firearms on police officers doing general duties in remote communities.”

    ABC link

  205. feelthebern

    Release the NT coppers body cam.
    No need to wait 12 months when this gets to court.

  206. thefrollickingmole

    FFS sod off and die Alana…

    Carnegie Clean Energy got a dismal financial rating, but still got $2.6m for Albany wave farm

    Explosive new documents obtained under Freedom of Information show Regional Development Minister Alannah MacTiernan was warned Carnegie Clean Energy was a financial risk — scoring just 1.6 out of 10 for its economic viability — before the company was paid $2.6 million in taxpayer funds.

    It was paid $2.6 million before it lost the contract over major financial problems
    A briefing note obtained by Nationals MP Terry Redman after an appeal to the Information Commissioner shows this warning was made six months before the WA Government had to terminate its $16 million contract with Carnegie.

    ….
    The briefing note shows Department of Primary Industries and Regional Development (DPIRD) bureaucrats were so concerned about the company’s finances in September last year that they sought an external opinion.

    “Seeking an independent assessment, DPIRD commissioned a Financial Viability Assessment (report) on Carnegie, which rates its financial position to be ‘unsatisfactory’ and scored it 1.6 out of a possible 10,” the September 2018 briefing note said.

    Both Carnegie and Ms MacTiernan blamed the company’s financial problems on the Federal Government’s plans to change the research and development tax incentive.

    But company records at this time show there were also other reasons why it was in a financially precarious state, including a big executive salary budget, the consequences of a poor decision to buy a solar microgrid company, as well as difficulties in competing with more affordable technologies like solar and wind energy.

  207. johanna

    Des, the denial of crime in Canberra is nothing new, as we both know.

    Since Canberra and Queanbeyan are effectively part of the same conurbation, one hopes that the police in both jurisdictions are working together, but who knows?

    One thing that cheered me up at the Queanbeyan copshop – they are the NSW Police Force (not ‘Service’) and they have what looks like a Wedge Tailed Eagle swooping as their emblem.

  208. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Kittywood

    So. I never knew there was that sort of money in Cat videos.

    I should put Attapuss to work. They wouldn’t need animatronics.
    He’s a natural.

    Loved the ‘script conference’. lol.
    i.e. ‘Here’s an idea, cat falls into kitchen garbage bin’,
    ‘What happens next?’ someone asks.
    ‘Dunno, haven’t got that far yet.’

  209. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    And where is the RSPCA during these Kittyshoots?

    Paid off, that’s what, I bet.

  210. Johno

    Peter, my experience has been that when you take these pricks on you have to enter the fray in a spirit of adventure. You never, ever fight clean, always dirty. You can win.

    When I sold the farm and moved to sunny, glorious Murrumbateman I received a final bill from my provider.
    It had two add ons of $95. I queried this and was told that the farm gate was locked on two different occasions when the meter reader tried to visit. Now, I knew that a “He said, I said” dispute was not going to be decided in my favour. The meter reader was a sub continental and the most inept vehicle driver I have ever seen.
    So I just said that the gate was actually propped open and that the meter reader had not even visited because he was absolutely terrified of dirt roads.This had some truth in it.
    They got back to me and said that he was a good bloke, but because I also was a good bloke they would waive one of the bills.
    I then said that I had one of their one key locks on my front gate and he could have gained access via this. They capitulated and wiped both charges.
    I never had one of their stupid bloody locks and they were to stupid to check.

  211. 1735099

    Install solar.
    Our monthly bill (with reverse cycle A/C running daily) never exceeds $25.

  212. Mark A

    Is there a limit to sniffie’s good fortune re. everything mentioned here?
    Be it NBN, electrikery, you name it.

  213. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Shy Ted, I have printed off that Gender Studies Thesis generator for future laughs.

    Thank you.

  214. Johno

    Sniffy, my solar is bigger than your solar.

    Spell BOOR for me.

  215. cohenite

    Soros Demands Fox News Ban “Ludicrous” Trump Ally Joe DiGenova

    The psychology of evil little rich turds fascinates; do they really think they’ll be immune from the communism they’re supporting.

  216. Johno

    My Inverter Air con is bigger than your R/C air con.

  217. Bruce of Newcastle

    Our monthly bill (with reverse cycle A/C running daily) never exceeds $25.

    Taxpayers paying for your electricity eh Numbers?
    Those yummy yummy subsidies.
    All for nothing.

  218. Johno

    My pool is bigger than your pool. Oh you don’t have one .

  219. Filbert

    Rex and Struth, many thanks for the laughs about Pte Commo McCoward’s ‘Nam misadventures… pure poetry!
    More please!

  220. cohenite

    The troll extols solar for the savings. The thing is every $ saved by wretches like the troll cost the community $10 in subsidies for the solar scam and infrastructure and grid costs. But I guess when you hate the society which nurtures you that’s grist for the mill.

  221. Johno

    My rumpus room is bigger than your?

  222. johanna

    The local MP for the region, Scott McConnell, joined calls for a review of police weapons in remote communities.

    “I think it’s absolutely inappropriate for police to be armed the way they are in remote communities. It’s not just the firearms, it’s the Taser and everything else. It’s even the uniform,” he said.

    “It may well be appropriate in built-up areas … but I’m calling for there to be less firearms on police officers doing general duties in remote communities.”

    This dickhead needs to spend a night in a police station in a remote location with 200 angry people outside yelling and screaming and threatening to burn the place down.

    Once again, it is that curious dichotomy between reality and fantasy that characterises the modern Left. We are told that a woman who looks whiter than totally white me is Aboriginal. We are told that a hairy bloke with meat and 2 veg is a woman. We are told that adolescents are wiser than adults. We are told that ‘inclusion’ means excluding people. And so on.

    Now, we are told that the way to keep order in violent situations is to have no means of defending yourself.

    FMD.

  223. Johno

    I got more bathrooms than you.Ha!!! so there.!!!

  224. struth

    Is this the unending forum.
    Seems like the borders are down and the thread is truly open.

  225. Johno

    I think your lesbian girlfriend may have a bigger foreskin . Can’t win ’em all.

    GO AWAY!!!!

  226. JC

    The psychology of evil little rich turds fascinates; do they really think they’ll be immune from the communism they’re supporting.

    He can move to Switzerland. I think uncle George also a Swiss citizen.

    Also, he’s mid to late 80s and worth 20 billion plus. He doesn’t give a shit about a wealth tax. He hates the right.

  227. thefrollickingmole

    This dickhead needs to spend a night in a police station in a remote location with 200 angry people outside yelling and screaming and threatening to burn the place down.

    Fake news, their ABC assured me the police were locked inside the station while the community and family members waited peacefully to get an update.
    And the ABC wouldnt go on TV and lie would they?

  228. struth

    Install solar.
    Our monthly bill (with reverse cycle A/C running daily) never exceeds $25.

    Subsidised by the poor (those who aren’t or weren’t public servants in this country)

  229. Helen

    Bathrooms let me see, 3 here, 4 there, 4 there, 1 there, oh and another two there, that makes 14! Am I the winner?

  230. struth

    They’re trees , Helen.

  231. Bathroom count: Wait. I’ll go ask one of the house servants.

  232. cohenite

    Son of House Speaker Pelosi made money in Ukraine as well

    This is giving me the shits; apparently I’m the only one who didn’t make a quid in Ukraine.

  233. Johno

    Yes Helen, Yes you are. I only have three, but I shall survive.A struggle but I shall survive. Don’t know about Sniffy but. Oh that’s right I don;t give a s**t.

  234. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    I never had one of their stupid bloody locks and they were to stupid to check.

    Yeah, I know all about the stupid bit. When we moved and I requested a final account, it included a price rise in the middle, plus a penalty fee for early cancellation of contract.

    I paid $100.00 in good faith, and wrote to them explaining that the bill could not possibly include a price rise AND a fee for early cancellation. Either we were still in the twelve month fixed price period of the contract, OR we were not. If we were, then the early cancellation fee was applicable, but not the price rise. If the twelve month contract had run its course, then we were up for the price rise, but not the cancellation fee. Either could be applicable, but not both.

    Instead of getting back to me simply nominating one or the other, AGL passed it over to a debt collection agency. AND they never included the $100.00 paid. And so started the five year saga which is only now about to draw to a lose.

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