Open Forum: November 9, 2019

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  1. Arky

    Barely scraping the surface KD.

  2. thefrollickingmole

    Numbers picks a story about a homeless loon making wild threats on facebook as his “proof” of violence.

    Reading the story it appears its a homeless, drug/alcohol rooted loon.

    Ms Bruce said her client had a minor criminal record and there was no evidence he intended to act on any of his threats.

    There is no evidence in the brief that Mr Rothsey was taking any active steps in relation to the completion of any of these alleged threats and no evidence that he had any possession of weapons,” she said.

    “The allegations before your honour today amount to Facebook posts … serious threats of violence yes … but simply posts.

    Its a good thing hes popped up on the coppers radar, but “proof” of right wing violence…

    Thats not even rising to the level of clutching at straws.

  3. Knuckle Dragger

    I’m not in a linky mood.

    The Left are (not were, are) responsible for the Holodomor.

    Clearly, they just didn’t do it right and will do a proper job next time.

  4. Arky

    What is it with the left and violence?
    ..
    I had a personal taste of that one.

  5. calli

    The Marianas Trench couldn’t contain the depth of the evil. But we know that. The Useful Idiots (their own term) still want to view the mythical Sunlit Uplands of Socialism in their lifetime.

    And they will stick at nothing to do it. Even wasting their twilight years trolling blogs.

  6. bespoke

    Numberwang turned up with a flaccid single shooter and got mowed down by multi linker assault Arky.

  7. Arky

    What is it with the left and violence?

  8. thefrollickingmole

    Even in a fun competition the lefties like to stack the votes…
    https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2019/nov/11/voter-detected-in-guardians-australian-bird-of-the-year-poll
    uardian Australia has detected and addressed a significant vote-tampering event in the Australian bird of the year poll.

    On Sunday 10 November, a spike in the vote count for the cockatoo was observed by readers and flagged with us. We do check for strange voting patterns regularly, and have detailed logs to identify automated voting. We’re not going to go into too much detail on what we’re recording, as we’d like to make it slightly more difficult for poll-riggers.

    After running our analysis, it is clear that automated voting was conducted for three birds – the rainbow lorikeet, the cockatoo, and then the black-throated finch, with unusual spikes in the number of votes received per minute from the same origin:

    Imagine your life being so consumed by crap you take time to try and rig a bird poll for a political point.

  9. Arky

    What is it with the left and violence?

  10. thefrollickingmole

    Arky is using a link-magazine that holds 100 clips
    /Joe Biden off.

  11. calli

    Arky.

    Don’t stare into the abyss.

  12. Knuckle Dragger

    Magazine with 100 clips.

    Surely no-one takes this elderly mong seriously.

  13. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    What is it with communists and violence?

    Ho Chi Minh and Pol Pot were unavailable for comment.

  14. Arky

    What is it with the left and violence?
    ..
    What is it with the left and violence?
    ..
    What is it with the left and violence?

  15. Tel

    Quick rundown on automotive 12V lead acid battery brands:
    * Panasonic
    * Bosch
    * Century / Yuasa
    * Exide

    Is that correct order (from best to worst) in terms of long lifespan and dependable performance?

    Any warnings I should know about? Calcium / AGM / Gel — which one last longer?

  16. Arky

    What IS IT with the left and violence?

  17. Roger

    What is it with communists and violence?

    When we are reproached with cruelty, we wonder how people can forget the most elementary Marxism.

    —Lenin

  18. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    What is it with communists and violence?

    “All those who do not follow the line I have laid out, will be smashed.”

    -Ho Chi Minh.

  19. cohenite

    The troll after hours; it’s like a pathetic little ember sputtering after the bush-fire, which of course are caused and exacerbated by green ideology, the most hypocritical of the left forms. The left are inherently violent because they are irrational, it’s a simple as that. Now here’s a video of quick draw exponents in action:

  20. Muddy

    The Useful Idiots (their own term)

    The Reckless Unbranded: those who seek an external locus of identity – something with which to tattoo on their life to prove they have purpose and value. Being highly narcissistic, the consequences of their experiments on others have no meaning. People, causes, and values, are discarded with reckless abandon.

  21. Some History

    Adam Tosser is sssso upssset that SloMo hasn’t already “saved the planet”.

    https://imgur.com/6eT3otQ

  22. Tailgunner

    19 slammers

    Haha, fkn sik.
    Your fkn local won’t know,xunt.
    Put the fukn Keno pen down,xunt.
    We’re got work to do.
    Yeh, fukn oath.

  23. Tailgunner

    History, please, is “miscaphonists” the right word to use when battling the NSS?
    Your fight is righteous.
    Respect.
    KD, we can cut a swathe.
    Just sayin

  24. Tailgunner

    Give back all the GST then you mooching maggots.

    Orrr, sheet!
    Stimpson is IT, confirmed

  25. Top Ender

    Cold-Hands, have re-worked your admirable suggestion so we can send it out via email:

    Subject: Vote now to sabotage a mad Green

    Simon Holmes A Court is busy pushing the Black Throated Finch for Guardian Bird of the Year.

    It’s currently leading the poll, voted for by all the “Stop Adani” eco-loons.

    Vote for the Wedge-tail Eagle, as the main victim of wind turbines.

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/ng-interactive/2019/oct/27/australian-bird-of-the-year-2019-vote-for-your-favourite

    SEND THIS EMAIL ON!

  26. Steve trickler

    What is it with the left and violence?

    This guy might want to consider shaving of the mustache, a change in hair colour and some surgery for his face.



  27. Rockdoctor

    Spent last 3 days in Melbourne (Leisure) and now up in the Hunter Valley. Saw no fires on approach but Taree & the tops aren’t that far away. Tomorrow looks like a danger day, CFA tankers from North East Vic up this way. Staging at Singleton apparently. I could be beating a hasty retreat back north of this place provided the airport still is open…

    As for Melbourne, holy hell the taxi line had the look of Calcutta & the sound of it. WTF is the go with blowing the horn? That and all the guys with lollypops stopping traffic on pedestrian crossings also blowing whistles like Bangkok coppers. Then Chinese dawdling clear across traffic & somehow not getting skittled. Was an entertaining half hour while I waited for a family member to negotiate their way to the pick up… Yeah & thanks Southern Annular Mode, snow down to 700m & I was staying in a suburb near the base of Mt Dandenong.

  28. mh

    Comment on Breitbart

    Cletus Servetus oldswimcoach • 8 hours ago
    Hey, I want a gun with a magazine with 100 clips in it!! Where can I get one! I might need it for the upcoming zombie (Democrat) apocalypse.

  29. Roger

    Watching the ABC news, you’d get the impression the whole of NSW is subject to a “catastrophic” fire threat. Not to underestimate the threat, but the reality is only three regions are categorised thus. And, predictably, we’re now on to climate change and the need for “action”. OK. How about routinely back burning forest in winter, permitting tree clearing around properties, etc.?

  30. Bruce of Newcastle

    After running our analysis, it is clear that automated voting was conducted for three birds – the rainbow lorikeet, the cockatoo, and then the black-throated finch, with unusual spikes in the number of votes received per minute from the same origin

    Wasn’t me, although I admit to having a pair of rainbow lorikeets on my hand this morning, and a friendly cocky dropped by for a piece of bread.

    After that the herons arrived to wander around the back lawn for a while. Then they paddled in the plastic cake tin I have as a water container. Mr Heron tried to wash his lump of mince in it, which caused it to disintegrate into meat soup. It was rather charming, so if I wanted to vote I’d vote for him.

  31. Harlequin Decline

    Tel
    #3208703, posted on November 11, 2019 at 7:46 pm

    If you are doing any driving that involves a lot of vibration, like corrugated roads be careful with the heavy duty Bosch batteries.

    I’ve had 2 of them fail after 4WDriving. By the time of the second failure they had figured it was structural problems with the plates and coatings and revised their design. There may still be some of them out there.

  32. Knuckle Dragger

    100 clips.

    Joe Biden really is a locked and loaded kinda guy.

  33. Tailgunner

    It’s little Michael, against the god Emperor.
    Lol!
    I heard a rumour that a large,online bookie was offering near 240%?
    Ahahaha
    It’s Sydney Airport Monopoly… except quite a bit quicker.
    👍
    😏
    :ThugLyfe
    :smoking:

  34. kaysee

    Some History
    Enjoy some of your imgur posts. Do you have a signed up account or is it just casual postings?

  35. Cold-Hands

    While I’m in the poll/petition advertising mood:
    Malcolm Roberts 🇦🇺
    @MRobertsQLD
    Please sign this official Parliament House Petition which will be presented to the parliament. Closes in 2 days.

    Petition EN1116 – The case for leaving the Paris Climate Agreement

  36. Tailgunner

    Is Bloomberg really 5’2”?
    Lol.
    The ‘hood ain’t buying day Jonathan Coleman schstick anymore!
    #MAGA

  37. Tintarella di Luna

    Just watching Christ Kenny on Sky and he had a quote up mentioning Cassandra and her activism vis a vis Sleeping Midgets/Giants — Kenny is given them a real going over — magnificent.

  38. Rex Mango

    With catastrophic fire meme all arms of government/media are pushing, now is time to design flying boat water bomber and sell it to government and cash in on the climate change con. Martin Mars (below) can carry 7,000 gallons of water. While some big cargo planes can carry more, the flying boat turn around time would be far less. Could be dropping water multiple times an hour. Landing on water also means no size limit. Think the Spruce Goose. Modern turboprop motors on the Martin Mars would vastly improve performance too:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_JRM_Mars

  39. mh

    And, predictably, we’re now on to climate change and the need for “action”. OK. How about routinely back burning forest in winter, permitting tree clearing around properties, etc.?

    Roger, you are sounding like Scotty from Austin Powers.

    Dr. Evil:
    Scott, I want you to meet daddy’s nemesis, Austin Powers

    Scott Evil:
    What? Are you feeding him? Why don’t you just kill him?

    Dr. Evil:
    I have an even better idea. I’m going to place him in an easily escapable situation involving an overly elaborate and exotic death.

  40. Tailgunner

    It’s Sydney Airport Monopoly… except quite a bit quicker.
    Quoting my own post.
    Bamn!!
    NycJC, get in here with a better investment.
    4InvestmentCats

  41. Tintarella di Luna

    Cold-Hands
    #3208728, posted on November 11, 2019 at 8:27 pm

    Thank you Cold Hands, signed I hope others get onto it, we can be activists too.

  42. Arky

    Pol Pot:

    The Democratic of Kampuchea was led by Pol Pot, a former schoolteacher. The killing machine of S-21 was a secret prison for torturing, interrogating, and depriving those who were accused of illegal activities and accused of being traitors. The Khmer Rouge acted like savage animals with no conscience as they preyed upon the innocent and naive citizens. The Khmer Rouge had turned the peaceful and beautiful Cheung Ek village into the infamous and miserable killing fields. The Pol Pot regime slaughtered people in the thousands without mercy and buried them in mass graves. No matter how much visitors have read or been told about the Khmer Rouge brutality and the number of people killed all visitors shall understand the full process of how the tens of thousands prisoners were executed here. More importantly, visitors can learn about the chain of command established by Pol Pot.

    Given the way that the Ultra Khmer Rouge Regime was organized, a decision for murder was most likely ordered by ‘Brother Number 01 himself, Pol Pot. Everything had to meet with his approval, even though there is no written proof. However, Son Sen, who was responsible for National Security and Defense and Ducha commandant at S-21, were directly responsible for killing the prisoners at S-21 and Cheung Ek Killing Field and written proof is available. At S-21 there were many documents routed to the party center and they all passed through Son Sen’s hands. Dozens of memoranda addressed to him by Duch have survived. Duch’s queries and annotations have appeared on the prisoners’ confessions, often in red ink. More often, Duch denigrated what the prisoners confessed and suggested beatings and tortures to unearth truth that he thought the prisoners were hiding. These documents display how the Upper Brothers, Son Sen and Duch, were responsible for the thousands of prisoners’ murders at S-21 and Cheung Ek.

    After getting an instruction to kill from the Central Committee of the regime through Son Sen, Duch ordered his deputy, Hor, to produce a “must smash” list .

    Taking orders from Hor, and Suon Thy who were in charge of the documentary unit, the list was prepared. The list was submitted to Duch for his signature. Then, the signed list was sent to Peng, the head of Defense unit, who seems to have been demoted in 1978 when his duties were taken by Hyu. Peng had the keys to all of the cells in the S-21 prison. Based on the list, Peng ordered the guards to remove the “must smash” prisoners to be killed.

    The Important and special prisoners like Keo Meas ( a veteran revolutionary), Ney Saran ( Secretary of Agriculture), Hu Nim ( Minister of Information), Kuy Thuon ( Secretary of Northern Zone), Cheng An (Deputy Minister of Industry), Von Veth ( Deputy prime Minister), and foreigners were killed and buried at the S-21 prison. As for foreigners including Canadians, Americans, Australians and British, guards were ordered to kill them and to burn their dead bodies so that no bones were left (Nic Dunlop 2005:275).

    The majority of the victims were trucked out to Choeung Ek, at about 8 or 9 o’clock PM, to be killed. The guards took the prisoners from their cells to the main gate where a large truck waited and told them that they were being transferred to another place. This lie was created to prevent the prisoners from crying, refusing to go or from escaping. In order to be well prepared for execution, a messenger from the defense unit was sent to the Choeung Ek Killing Field in advance to inform a permanent team about the number of the prisoners to be killed that day. Usually, the messenger went to the Killing Field by motorcycle in the mornings. To ensure that a top secret was kept and also that the execution was carried out properly, Duch, Peng, and Huy were requested to attend by Son Sen, the Minister in charge of defense and security. Often times, Duch sat smoking on a mat near the pit to supervise the executions and to insure their murderous plans.

    The number of prisoners executed at Choeung Ek on a daily basis varied from a few dozen to over three hundred. The latter figure was recorded in May, 1978 at the height of the pursuits in the Eastern Zone. On a monthly basis two or three trucks would go from S-21 to Choeung Ek. Each truck held three or four guards and twenty to thirty frightened, silent prisoners. When the trucks arrived at the site, two guards seated with prisoners jumped from the canvas and took prisoners down, shoved them into a small building. The building was constructed from wood with a galvanized steel roof and its walls were built with two layers of flat wood to darken the room and also to prevent prisoners seeing each other. Then, with the electricity light supplied by a generator , Peng or Huy the heads of capturers subunit, verified prisoners’ names against a “must-smash” list prepared by the head of documentation unit, Suos Thy. This list ensured that no one prisoner was missed. Prisoners were led in small groups to ditches and pits that were dug in advance by another team stationed permanently at the site.

    They were told to kneel down and then they were clubbed on the neck with tools such as cart axle, hoe, stick, wooden club or whatever else served as a weapon of death. They were sometimes stabbed with knives or swords to save using bullets, which were deemed to be too expensive. Duch said: “We had instructions from the party on how to kill them, but we didn’t use bullets and usually, we slit their throats. We killed them like chickens” ( Dunlop 2005:273)

    http://www.killingfieldsmuseum.com/s21-victims.html

  43. egg_

    Malcolm Roberts 🇦🇺
    @MRobertsQLD
    Please sign this official Parliament House Petition which will be presented to the parliament. Closes in 2 days.

    Signed.

  44. Rex Mango

    Maybe dust off the Spruce Goose blueprints & re-engine with eight T56 turboprops, would make a great water bomber:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hughes_H-4_Hercules#/media/File:Hughes_H-4_Hercules_flying_boat,_the_“Spruce_Goose”_at_the_Evergreen_Aviation_&_Space_Museum.jpg

  45. egg_

    How did Malcolm Roberts go with the MDBA meeting the other week?

  46. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The Democratic of Kampuchea was led by Pol Pot, a former schoolteacher.

    Indeed?

  47. Arky

    The Bolsheviks:

    The Romanovs were famed for their collection of jewelry, and they had left Petrograd with a large cache of diamonds hidden their baggage. During the last months they had sewn the diamonds into specially made underwear in case they needed to fund an escape. On the night of the execution the children had pulled on this secretly bejeweled underwear, which was reinforced with the hardest material in existence. Tragically, ironically, the bullets bounced off these garments. Finally the murderers waded into the gruesome scene of wounded, bleeding children (one of the killers compared it to a slippery ice rink awash with blood and brains) and stabbed them manically with bayonets or shot them in the head.

    The mayhem lasted 20 agonizing minutes. When the bodies were being carried out, two of the girls turned out to still be alive, spluttering and coughing before being stabbed into silence. This was surely the origin ofthe legend that Anastasia, the youngest daughter, had survived, a story that inspired so many impostors to impersonate the murdered grand duchess.

    https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/tradition/a8072/russian-tsar-execution/

  48. Arky

    The Romanovs were famed for their collection of jewelry, and they had left Petrograd with a large cache of diamonds hidden their baggage. During the last months they had sewn the diamonds into specially made underwear in case they needed to fund an escape. On the night of the execution the children had pulled on this secretly bejeweled underwear, which was reinforced with the hardest material in existence. Tragically, ironically, the bullets bounced off these garments. Finally the murderers waded into the gruesome scene of wounded, bleeding children (one of the killers compared it to a slippery ice rink awash with blood and brains) and stabbed them manically with bayonets or shot them in the head.

    The mayhem lasted 20 agonizing minutes. When the bodies were being carried out, two of the girls turned out to still be alive, spluttering and coughing before being stabbed into silence. This was surely the origin ofthe legend that Anastasia, the youngest daughter, had survived, a story that inspired so many impostors to impersonate the murdered grand duchess.

    https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/tradition/a8072/russian-tsar-execution/

  49. Arky

    The Romanovs were famed for their collection of jewelry, and they had left Petrograd with a large cache of diamonds hidden their baggage. During the last months they had sewn the diamonds into specially made underwear in case they needed to fund an escape. On the night of the execution the children had pulled on this secretly bej3weled underwear, which was reinforced with the hardest material in existence. Tragically, ironically, the bullets bounced off these garments. Finally the murderers waded into the gruesome scene of wounded, bleeding children (one of the killers compared it to a slippery ice rink awash with blood and brains) and stabbed them manically with bayonets or shot them in the head.

    The mayhem lasted 20 agonizing minutes. When the bodies were being carried out, two of the girls turned out to still be alive, spluttering and coughing before being stabbed into silence. This was surely the origin ofthe legend that Anastasia, the youngest daughter, had survived, a story that inspired so many impostors to impersonate the murdered grand duchess.
    https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/tradition/a8072/russian-tsar-execution/

  50. Arky

    The Romanovs were famed for their collection of jewelry, and they had left Petrograd with a large cache of diamonds hidden their baggage. During the last months they had sewn the diamonds into specially made underwear in case they needed to fund an escape. On the night of the execution the children had pulled on this secretly bej3weled underwear, which was reinforced with the hardest material in existence. Tragically, ironically, the bullets bounced off these garments. Finally the murderers waded into the gruesome scene of wounded, bleeding children (one of the killers compared it to a slippery ice rink awash with blood and brains) and stabbed them manically with bayonets or shot them in the head.

  51. Rex Mango

    Schoolteachers and doctors are the biggest loons on the political stage.

  52. Nick

    Oh my word hahahaha. Jacob Rees-Mogg’s sprogs:

    He was joined by wife Helena, as well as his children Peter Theodore Alphege, Thomas Wentworth Somerset Dunstan, Anselm Charles Fitzwilliam, Alfred Wulfric Leyson Pius Rees-Mogg and Sixtus Dominic Boniface Christopher.

  53. Rex Mango

    Sounds like an Adelaide family.

  54. EvilElvis

    Other common Pertherts include planeloads of whinging Poms and white South African apartheid apologists, and hordes of dole-bludging, drug-addicted bogans

    Just headed north into Perth today for a prostate MRI. By the time I’ve hit Mandurah on the world’s most soulless road, Forrest Hwy, I’m wishing the prostate check could be done in my hometown by a Stewart Lowe impersonator with pineapple skins for gloves, it would be a more enjoyable day I can assure you. I despise the place and it’s hit the nail on the head regarding poms, safas and fucking bogan miners. No mention of retarded brown skin imports that have solely fucked any chance of getting anywhere in the place without causing road rage. Luckily the caucasian locals have learnt to drive just like their Asian brothers and sisters so the whole freeway shitfight is like a Mario Cart game chock full of mong drivers.

  55. mh

    French culture

    French Govt Official Charged with Drugging over 200 Women to Watch Them Urinate

    A senior official in the French Ministry of Culture has been charged with drugging over 200 women with diuretics so that he could take pictures and watch while they urinated…

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/11/10/french-govt-official-charged-with-drugging-over-200-women-to-watch-them-urinate/

  56. Arky

    Bian Zhongyun was the respected assistant principal at the most prestigious girls middle school in Beijing.
    Bian was a wife, mother of four, a good communist, and was well-liked by her students.

    Teacher Bian was beaten and tortured for several hours on August 5, 1966 before she collapsed and died. Her tormentors were her female students. Dozens more of Bian’s students witnessed her passion and did nothing.

    Bian knew that she was going to be murdered at the school by her girls that day, yet she willingly went to work. She had been “struggled” in June of 1966, and again on August 4. That night she washed herself so that her corpse would be clean. When she left her flat the morning of August 5 she and her husband, Wang Jinyao, shook hands in farewell. Wang watched as she walked to the school, turning back only when Bian disappeared around a corner.

    The “Beijing, November 2008” articles here examined the individual behavior of the above actors–Bian herself, her husband, the perpetrators, and the student onlookers–in the peculiar context of Beijing that summer.

    ..
    https://publicoccurrenc.blogspot.com/2009/09/chinas-great-wall-of-silence.html

  57. Tintarella di Luna

    He was joined by wife Helena, as well as his children Peter Theodore Alphege, Thomas Wentworth Somerset Dunstan, Anselm Charles Fitzwilliam, Alfred Wulfric Leyson Pius Rees-Mogg and Sixtus Dominic Boniface Christopher.

    what about Mary Anne Charlotte Emma?

  58. Leigh Lowe

    French Govt Official Charged with Drugging over 200 Women to Watch Them Urinate

    Look, who hasn’t slipped a diuretic into a sheila’s Midori to have a look at her taking a whizz.

  59. Nick

    Tint, she was home doing her homework.

  60. Rex Mango

    Bombardier make a twin engined flying boat water bomber, but Australia should go bigger due less lakes to land on etc:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadair_CL-415

  61. Tintarella di Luna

    Some French people are just weird, I think it might be something in the horse meat

  62. Tintarella di Luna

    Tint, she was home doing her homework.

    Of course, counting the days (and nights) one can’t start too young

  63. egg_

    m0nty
    #3208181, posted on November 11, 2019 at 10:34 am
    Hmm, so it’s the wrong time to be blaming fires on climate change, but it is the right time to blame the fires on the firies? Curious logic that you lot are running with. But hey, Tony can fix iaaahahahahaha sorry couldn’t finish that sentence, laughing too hard.

    Oh look – Clown Penis showed up.

  64. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The Khmer Rouge acted like savage animals with no conscience as they preyed upon the innocent and naive citizens. The Khmer Rouge had turned the peaceful and beautiful Cheung Ek village into the infamous and miserable killing fields

    Bbbbbut it was all the fault of the evil debbil – debbil Americans, bombing North Vietnamese supply dumps and the Hi Chi Minh trail – established in Cambodia, in clear breach of Cambodian neutrality…

  65. Chris

    Just headed north into Perth today for a prostate MRI. By the time I’ve hit Mandurah on the world’s most soulless road, Forrest Hwy, I’m wishing the prostate check could be done in my hometown by a Stewart Lowe impersonator with pineapple skins for gloves, it would be a more enjoyable day I can assure you. I despise the place and it’s hit the nail on the head regarding poms, safas and fucking bogan miners. No mention of retarded brown skin imports that have solely fucked any chance of getting anywhere in the place without causing road rage. Luckily the caucasian locals have learnt to drive just like their Asian brothers and sisters so the whole freeway shitfight is like a Mario Cart game chock full of mong drivers.

    Harsh, but fair.

  66. Caveman

    French Govt Official Charged with Drugging over 200 Women to Watch Them Urinate

    Methode Pipi

  67. areff

    Maybe dust off the Spruce Goose blueprints & re-engine with eight T56 turboprops, would make a great water bomber:

    Big? Expensive? A great bureaucrats’ water bomber — bigger budget required, more underlings required, and because they don’t work very well, more water bombers required.

    Here’s the dope on waterbombers: During the Black Saturday catastrophe, fixed-wing bombers wouldn’t operate when the fires became too big because the the rising columns of air and smoke made flying a suicide mission.

    As for helicopters, they weren’t in the air until the cool change came through at 6pm, turned the fire away from Healesville and sent it screaming through Marysville (34 dead there.) Even then the choppers, which we rent from the US at stupendous cost, were only useful on the spot fires and the edges of the main blazes. Their most notable achievement was allowing a wedding to continue in the Yarra Valley wine country

    CFA has a mural showing how firefighting has “evolced” — bloke with a wet sack, then blokes with backpacks, then trucks and soon they’ll add aircraft. They think it’s a testament to expanding professionalism. Rubbish. It’s a pictorial chronicle of failure.

    If fuel loads aren’t reduced, the flames will get bigger. Simple as that.

    Heard some NSW fire boss on the radio saying — could hardly believe it — that preventive burning is overrated because there’s a fire burning near Gosford on land that was fuel-reduced just five years ago. Then he said, “There aren’t any crown fires, which is lucky.”

    What a pen-pushing ninny! There are no crown fires because it was burnt five years ago. He’s probably on, minimum, $250k a year — and you can bet he’d just love more waterbombers and a bigger department..

    Avoiding crown fires is the whole point. Once the fire gets into the tree tops, it’s too late.

  68. egg_

    the right time to blame the fires on the firies?

    Some volunteers have been found to be arsonists.
    Has Mu llins got any solutions, or is he just another scaremongering loon, like Flannery?

  69. mh

    French Govt Official Charged with Drugging over 200 Women to Watch Them Urinate

    At least it wasn’t 200 at the same time.

  70. dover_beach

    what Rees Mogg names mean

    Indeed. Great names!

  71. Tailgunner

    Joe Biden really is a locked and loaded kinda guy
    Nah, Corn Pop is PedoJoe’s high tide mark.
    Ahahaha, that’s some fukn hilarious sheet.
    The Pedo/globalist/moloch Candidate goes down.
    Bloomberg?
    Yeh,nah.
    He’s the anointed one.
    I swear it, by Baphonet.

  72. egg_

    I predict pics of Michael Rowland wearing firefighters clobber will be very popular on social media.

    Village People wear?

  73. Tailgunner

    U shots, xunt.
    :smok…ah,fukn carpet!:

  74. Tailgunner

    8th Dan, get in here, ya fukn legend
    Lift your Game,xunt

  75. egg_

    One would like to know what the local mayor who criticised Morrison for not mentioning climate change has done to facilitate burn offs in her district, now ablaze?

    More tropical = wetter, retard.

  76. Rex Mango

    areff, am on your page exactly with bushfires, just if the government is going to buy these planes, why not make some money by selling it to them? Also land based water bombers are fare less efficient than flying boats. Must take hours for a huge DC10 to land, reload and take off again for another sortie.

  77. Old Lefty
    #3208614, posted on November 11, 2019 at 5:59 pm

    Sources tell me that the practice of the High Court deciding leave to appeal applications on the papers is normal and doesn’t necessarily signify anything.

    I gather it was introduced in part to deal quickly with the mass of hopeless applications lodged by shonky immigration lawyers who of course get paid no matter what

    Or Theodore J Rout.

    https://ratbags.com/rsoles/comment/routhighcourt.htm

  78. QandA forum is open

    Come bid on the goat rodeo

  79. Rex Mango

    Fascinating to watch the whole Green movement (political parties, councils, media etc) move as one to avoid blame for the current fire problems in NSW and religiously chant climate change.

  80. Rex Mango

    Carpe, Media Watch discussing last weeks episode of Q&A.

  81. Snoopy

    egg_
    #3208771, posted on November 11, 2019 at 8:59 pm
    I predict pics of Michael Rowland wearing firefighters clobber will be very popular on social media.

    Village People wear?

    It does tend to make him appear uncommonly butch. Which could appeal to a certain demographic.

  82. Very gay music Gunner.

    Anime isn’t real yet, what a disappointment, a bad President and bad orange man.

  83. egg_

    NEW REPORT: THE ANGRIEST SUMMER

    The Angry Summer was driven by greenhouse gas pollution from the burning of fossil fuels, like coal, oil and gas, and land clearing.

    This is the tripe that Greg Mu llins was fervently pushing on The Drum TV recently.

  84. areff

    Mullins is disgusting. He told the boy and girl reporters at ABC and Fairfax that August fires were “unprecedented”. They should have checked Trove. There have been stacks of August fires in NSW, especially in drought years

  85. Gab

    Please sign this official Parliament House Petition which will be presented to the parliament. Closes in 2 days.

    Petition EN1116 – The case for leaving the Paris Climate Agreement

    Link https://tinyurl.com/s4rkpom

  86. Arky

    Bian Zhongyun was the respected assistant principal at the most prestigious girls middle school in Beijing.
    Bian was a wife, mother of four, a good communist, and was well-liked by her students.

    ..
    You need to get your head around something very discombobulating here.
    This was the exclusive private school the top communists sent their children to.
    … and during the cultural revolution those children were gleefully beating the teachers to death.
    When you see the circumstances at, say Evergreen, your blood should go cold that anyone should want to go anywhere near that path again:


  87. Tailgunner

    My nigga, IceCube, endorses the god Emperor.
    The Boss.
    Dayiim!

  88. Signed Gab and passed onto my coterie of right wing death beasts.

  89. Mitch M.

    DNA is only one among millions of possible genetic molecules Scientists computed a zoo of millions

    This reveals a similiar state of affairs that Andreas Wagner found with his computational analysis of metabolic pathways. The numbers skyrocket, there are so many potential metabolic pathways, even for energy generation, that evolution has a great many possibilities to explore. So the law of large numbers: given enough events the highly improbable becomes inevitable.

  90. max

    4 Corbyners on about children and language learning.

    Only 16% of kids now read books.

    How many teachers read books ?

  91. Knuckle Dragger

    Frank’s link at 9.05 pm;

    KIRBY J: Do you have a university degree in science yourself?

    MR ROUT: No, I am the world authority on it and I have been working to develop it and apply it and I say “You want to fuse the four hydrogen atoms” as I say to NASA, “You must apply the science because if you learn how and why it works, that is the way to go.”

    I hope you’re reading this, BoN. All that time wasted. Go away and have a good hard think about what you’ve done.

  92. Overburdened

    https://youtu.be/DjMO_ewZxIQ

    I was following a trail which lead me to this.

    In spite of not getting what I want I’ve watched it a bit.

    This is being ahead of the curve.

  93. mh

    My nigga, IceCube, endorses the god Emperor.
    The Boss.
    Dayiim!

    No.

    O’Shea Jackson wants to “Arrest The President”.

  94. Knuckle Dragger

    Surprisingly, Mr Rout’s own website is a 27 page manifesto of his grievances, which I can’t link to because it appears to be 27 pages of photocopy.

    Worth noting, though, that the scientist-policing cabal tried and failed in an assassination attempt in 2012, that had the EXACT modus operandi as the job on Colin Winchester in Canberra. You will be shocked to know that both Stephen Hawking and John Howard were personally involved in the dastardly plot.

    This guy is legit. Coincidence? YOU DECIDE!

    WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!!

  95. Leigh Lowe

    KD.
    Any update on hot-dog salesmen and fruiterers today?
    I saw a headline that the guy driving the Toyota Collander was a “top bloke” and “mistaken identity”.

  96. Tel

    Arky if you search “People’s Century” there’s some interesting historical episodes out there.

    Unfortunately difficult to purchase, never got released on DVD.

  97. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Teacher Bian was beaten and tortured for several hours on August 5, 1966 before she collapsed and died. Her tormentors were her female students. Dozens more of Bian’s students witnessed her passion and did nothing.

    there isn’t a race on the planet more lame than the chinese

  98. feelthebern

    Sixtus Dominic Boniface Christopher

    Rees-Mogg needs to be punched in the face for naming his sprig that.

  99. Leigh Lowe

    You will be shocked to know that both Stephen Hawking and John Howard were personally involved in the dastardly plot.

    Was Stephen the trigger-man or getaway driver?
    Because, either way, not ideal.

  100. Arky

    there isn’t a race on the planet more lame than the chinese

    ..
    There isn’t a smarter or longer civilised race on Earth than the Chinese, apart from perhaps the J*ws.
    If it can happen to them, it can, and frequently seems to, happen to anyone.

  101. Arky

    there isn’t a race on the planet more lame than the chinese

    ..
    There is hardly a smarter or longer civilised race on earth than the Chinese.
    If it happened there, the ideology can infect anywhere.

  102. Leigh Lowe

    Rees-Mogg is a bit of a loose unit, that’s true, but who cares.
    He has the propensity to shove the pineapple where it needs to go, sans vaseline.

  103. Old School Conservative

    Well done Greta. Implying that children will take violent revenge against adults and then finishing off with ‘Thank You”.
    Strange girl.

  104. Tel

    The strangest thing about modern teachers and the Cultural Revolution is that there is a socialist core of Western teachers who are enthusiastic about reliving the experience. I won’t say it’s all of them, or even most of them, but a nontrivial group really think it would be a great idea. Talk about the turkeys asking for Christmas … somehow it will all work out OK this time around.

    Elizabeth Warren used to be a teacher … there’s something to ponder.

    There’s this as well …

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/09/02/public-school-teachers-leading-important-antifa-faction/

  105. Snoopy

    If it happened there, the ideology can infect anywhere.

    Imagine that you’re a teacher and your school has 300 hundred of Greta enrolled.

  106. Leigh Lowe

    Imagine that you’re a teacher and your school has 300 hundred of Greta enrolled.

    That’s thousands of crayons eaten every day.

  107. Old School Conservative

    Snoopy, wouldn’t all the Gretas be absent from school on Gaia worship activities?
    No classes to teach!

  108. Overburdened

    KD 21:42

    In every place I’ve been to, the best thing is to know nothing.

  109. Knuckle Dragger

    Ex-fruiterers.

    LL, they (the jacks) may have some sort of master plan in place. Hard to tell from here, but a couple of decades of watching cop shows leads me to believe that it wouldn’t be the first time the meeja’s been fed stuff in order to flush out the REAL killer, and that some twice-divorced jaded lone wolf detective has put his career on the line to do it.

    If said detective hasn’t been busted back to traffic within 24 hours by his workaholic boss who has the Mayor up his arse, we’ll know he’s on the right track.

  110. Overburdened

    Arky 21:38

    This is what totalitarians do.

    I am always impressed with the little victories of the armchair warriors who all have an opinion and haven’t tasted the gristle.

    When it comes, as I have prognosticated before, it will be rapid and brutal.

    Most I think will be going, ‘What the…’.

  111. Overburdened

    KD

    Things are not what they used to be.

    It would be good to let it all hang out and talk about stuff.

  112. Overburdened

    Aarrggh!

    Logged into KD’s Tinder site!

  113. Leigh Lowe

    KD, cancel your subscription to NCIS New York, NCIS Miami, NCIS Des Moines, Poirot, Midsomer Murders and NCIS Dromana right now.
    Too much of a good thing.

  114. Snoopy

    Don’t forget Death in Paradise.

  115. Leigh Lowe

    LL, they (the jacks) may have some sort of master plan in place. 

    We are talking about VikPlod here, with Tubby in the big chair, so I am thinking a master plan is not involved.

  116. mh

    How quickly the CCP changed Honkers

    Hong Kong police shoot protester as pro-democracy unrest spirals into rare working-hours violence

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/11/11/hong-kong-police-shoot-protester-pro-democracy-unrest-spiralsinto/

  117. Old School Conservative

    Rowan Dean very strong on PML.
    Took on Mona, ABC, Q&A, “burn stuff” from indigenous activist, Ita, Fletcher, Fran Kelly.
    Great rhetoric and cleverly argued.
    Even got in over the Screeching Parrot.

  118. Leigh Lowe

    Don’t forget Death in Paradise.

    Is that the one where the pasty Brit import to the Carribean has to direct the whimsical but lazy local dusky Plod in the finer points of crime fighting?

  119. Knuckle Dragger

    I have spoken before of my excellent son and heir, who regards climateers as ‘retards’.

    Spoke to him tonight. Asked him if he was getting along all right with The Skank’s BF of five years or so, who apparently (I know this due to an earlier slip up during a call from said Skank) makes fuck all despite being an alleged plumber in Townsville, it’s all somebody else fault etc.

    I promise I am not teaching him to say this.

    He said the BF tonight was lactating due to an oestrogen overdose. I chastised him, but the effect was lost because we were both pissing ourselves laughing.

    The sword in my right hand. My shield and strength.

  120. Overburdened

    KD

    This is a good place to have a spit.

  121. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    If fuel loads aren’t reduced, the flames will get bigger. Simple as that.

    Bolt had a very good interview with an expert on this tonight (don’t know his name but he gave a good account of a very simple formula to predict intensity of burn by wind conditions and fuel load). Fuel load was the clincher. More fuel, more crown burning, bigger fires, quicker spread.

    As you note, areff, too many people stand to gain from having big fires and then the ability to ask for more funds for themselves because of it. Greenies pushing climate change, politicians in photo op mode hugging weary grandmas on sandwich duty, fire managers wanting helicopters, and a load of other people with fingers in a rebuilding pie one way or another.

  122. Knuckle Dragger

    NCIS Dromana is underrated.

    Almost as good as NCIS Charters Towers.

  123. Overburdened

    catallaxyfiles.com not chordU.com

  124. The sword in my right hand. My shield and strength.

    Optimus and Rodimus.

  125. Overburdened

    Elizabeth

    Crisis and opportunity as the saying goes.

  126. Leigh Lowe

    NCIS Dromana.
    Stolen goods.
    The D-Gen (Working Dog) used to do a skit on morning radio in Melbourne back last century called Dromana Five-0.
    Hilarious when driving to the abbatoir in the 120Y still half cut on a Monday morning.
    But that is a story for another day.

  127. Overburdened

    Elizabeth

    Of course for this stratagem to work, the important thing is that people do not remember that it’s happened before.

  128. Arky

    The D-Gen (Working Dog) used to do a skit on morning radio in Melbourne back last century called Dromana Five-0.

    ..
    local radio station in ChCh had a program called Waimaori Mice.
    About a couple of drug detective rodents.

  129. dover_beach

    Dromana has gentrified. Prices have gone through the roof.

  130. cohenite

    The only problem with this frog pervert watching the birds take a wizz is if he spiked them with asparagus.

  131. EvilElvis

    Dealing with the ATO as a small business in 2019.

    Try over a laboriously long period to lodge BAS or payments due to site under maintenance, site unavailable or AusKey cock ups. 10% of the time it may even be a struggling business issue.
    Ring them, as advised by said ATO if you have any problems with payments. Get abused by a public servant for not doing BAS or payment. Get facesiously told by public servant who has never generated a dollar in their life for the country that you should really learn how to operate a business better. Get told forcibly everything needs sorting today or we’ll endeavour to make you sell your business or garnish your assets. Ask for a little more time to sort things, a massive period like a week. No! You don’t apply for leniency on your obligations to the state. Why is that? Because you’re not big business and don’t qualify. You have defaulted! Ok, in which way have we defaulted? Insert one of many reasons why in condescending tone. Get ultimatum to pay up, lodge whatever or be shut down and collections proceeding.
    Rinse and repeat ad fucking nauseum each call, but, expect the reasoning and excuses for their conduct to change and no notes or paperwork made on your case. Just constant vitriol from the slimy non-productive.

    But hey, if you’re big business we’ll give you two weeks while shitting on you. What a fucking country.

  132. Arky

    I can’t hear this without overlaying it with a couple of helium inhaling DJs pretending to be drug busting mice:


  133. Leigh Lowe

    Still laughing at Phillip Adams growing up in Far Kew in abject poverty in the 1940’s.

    We didn’t have any of the basics of life. No flat-screen telly, no induction cooktop, no Thermomix and certainly no bathroom scales. Although we did have a dishwasher. Her name was Lizzie and she used to walk barefoot from Mount Druitt every day. Overrated she was, as I always licked my plate clean.
    But times got really hard when Dad’s stock-brokerage commission was slashed from 5% to 4%. At times we thought we might be reduced to sleeping in the Bentley.

  134. mh

    Cohenite, the Frenchy took his perversion to Kraut levels

    The official is said to have kept meticulous records of each incident in an excel spreadsheet, in one instance he recorded: “Start time 9:00 a.m. Event time 9:55 a.m.. Time of application 10:00 a.m. Time of release 10:10 a.m. She lowers her pants even before I protect her. Long enough, I offer her a paper, she wipes herself standing right in front of me. ”

    In another case, he wrote: “She begins to drop pantyhose and panties (black). She squats and drops a jet very strong and very long.”

  135. Top Ender

    We’re back watching World on Fire again. Unfortunately.

    Uniforms all still too clean. Webbing looks like it came from those companies that make fake webbing. Probably did.

    British Army officer so stupid he has no AA guards out when trekking to Dunkirk. All but about 10 of the BEF seem to have buggered off for most of the episode.

    Then again officer gets to tell brutal sergeant they must take on four French Senegalese soldiers who have somehow got caught up in the evacuation. Thus showing modern SJW types one could be woke even back then.)

    Stukas that bomb while horizontal. (So the viewers can see them, one presumes.)

    When the intelligent but too nice Army officer tells brave sergeant he must leave him, brave sergeant salutes him. Without their hats on. In the field.

    Couldn’t afford destroyers etc for the Dunkirk scenes, so had a lot of rowing boats instead.

    Through it all strides the black gay male jazz singer who is love with the USA doctor.

    Jesus wept.

  136. Leigh Lowe

    Overburdened

    #3209044, posted on November 11, 2019 at 10:33 pm

    120Y

    Christ.

    Cover story.
    Orange Valiant Charger.

  137. MatrixTransform

    Dromana is underrated

    grew up there

    ain’t no NCIS

    you’d have to go to Frankston for that

  138. Some History

    kaysee
    #3208727, posted on November 11, 2019 at 8:26 pm
    Some History
    Enjoy some of your imgur posts. Do you have a signed up account or is it just casual postings?

    Thanks. They’re just casual postings.

  139. cohenite

    mh

    #3209069, posted on November 11, 2019 at 10:40 pm

    Cohenite, the Frenchy took his perversion to Kraut levels

    Apparently, but when I read the original post it implied they were drugged, that is out of it and he spied on them, not that they were willing participants. Personally I can’t see the fascination and I wonder what he was charged with: inducing a urinary response?

  140. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘When the intelligent but too nice Army officer tells brave sergeant he must leave him, brave sergeant salutes him. Without their hats on. In the field.

    ‘Couldn’t afford destroyers etc for the Dunkirk scenes, so had a lot of rowing boats instead.’

    Baaahahahahaa.

    Why are you doing this to yourself TE? Good God, man.

  141. egg_

    Mullewa

    Been there many times, love a cup of tea made with bore water.

  142. Leigh Lowe

    Cohenite, the Frenchy took his perversion to Kraut levels

    Everyone needs a hobby.

  143. MatrixTransform

    Hilarious when driving to the abbatoir in the 120Y still half cut on a Monday morning.

    ‘Cause I’ve got friends in low places where the whiskey drowns
    And the beer chases my blues away and I’ll be okay
    I’m not big on social graces, think I’ll slip on down to the oasis
    Oh, I’ve got friends in low places

  144. Snoopy

    120Y

    Christ!!

    The auto attracts a premium. Apparently.

  145. Knuckle Dragger

    D-Gen radio shows.

    In the mid-90s Melbournistan had Johnny Swank, a secret agent who got into zany adventures whilst saving the world, failing to pick up chicks etc etc.

    A group of fellow secret agent hot dog sellers at the time decided this character (voiced by Rob Sitch) suited me perfectly. Some of these cocks refer to me as Swank to this very day. Each weekday had a different intro song. This was Friday:

    ‘He’s the spy, he’s the spy who’s suave and brave (Johnny Swank! Johnny Swank!)
    He’s the spy who wears too much aftershave (Johnny Swank! Johnny Swank!)
    He is on the best-dressed list, he’s a pilot and linguist,
    He is prone to getting pissed!
    Johnny Swank! Johnny Swank! Johnny Swank!’

    Idiots.

  146. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Then again officer gets to tell brutal sergeant they must take on four French Senegalese soldiers who have somehow got caught up in the evacuation

    Dunno – it seems the Wehrmacht shot more then a few French Senegalese troops for daring to resist their new overlords.

  147. Knuckle Dragger

    39600km on the clock, Snoop?

    For a 120Y?

    Riiiiiight. Legit.

  148. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Front page of the Oz cites even the hippies of Nimbin blaming the Greens for the intensity of the bushfires.

  149. Overburdened

    Yep

    I’m a #mini me Charger

    I was in a 120Y when it hit a wombat late one night on Brown Mountain in 1977 or 8.

    Killed the car, killed the wombat and 4 or so hours with no heat in winter until a timber truck came along.

  150. Leigh Lowe

    39600km on the clock, Snoop?

    For a 120Y?

    One owner.
    Old lady … only drove to church … became an atheist just after she bought it … yadda, yadda.

  151. Top Ender

    New book sounds good. Hitler gets a serve too

    Socialism: the inconvenient truth
    Bill Muehlenberg

    10 November 2019

    For as long as socialism has been around, there have been critics of it. And rightly so. As Ronald Reagan once quipped, “A socialist is someone who has read Lenin and Marx. An anti-socialist is someone who understands Lenin and Marx.”

    Sadly it seems far too few people actually understand it. Recent polls, for example, have shown that at least half of all American millennials are favourably disposed to socialism. They are in desperate need of some understanding. As such, it is welcome news indeed that a new book has just been released to help educate us on these important matters.

    Rand Paul, the US Senator from Kentucky, has just penned The Case Against Socialism (Broadside Books, 2019). It is an extremely helpful expose of the failure that is socialism – in theory, and especially in practice. In 40 short but highly informative chapters Paul makes his case. In the introduction he explains why this book is necessary:

    This is the story of an evil well documented and yet still somehow enticing, even in America. This is the story of socialism in all its drab and dreary machinelike destruction of individual thought, creativity, and ambition. This is the story of socialism in all its violence, bloodshed, and tyranny. It is a cautionary tale of how America has so far eluded the siren call of something for nothing, of an equality determined and enforced by government – but also of how close we still are to succumbing to socialism.
    Paul demonstrates how socialism always becomes authoritarian, and only fully comes about by the coercive power of the state: “Unless you imagine a voluntary revolution where all owners of industry or commerce give up their wealth to the state, you have to acknowledge that state ownership of the means of production can only occur at the end of a truncheon. Around the world, time and time again, strongmen have come to power promising the free stuff of socialism, only to succumb to the siren song of power.”

    It is like a broken record: when socialists overthrow authoritarian regimes, they end up becoming just the same – or worse. Think of Cuba where Castro replaced Batista; Nicaragua, where the Sandinistas replaced Somoza; or Russia where Lenin and Stalin replaced the czars:

    Each time a revolt of the ‘people’ promised the manna of socialism and justice. And each time the result was rule by an elite that degenerated into rule by the few or even by one, often with the democratic title of president but with the ominous title – ‘for life’.

    And remember, Hitler was also a socialist. Says Paul:

    National socialism was part and parcel to Nazism from the beginning. In 1920, Hitler first presented the Nazi Party a twenty-five-point plan for national socialism. Most of the plan could be found in any Bolshevik platform except for the racial animus against the Jews.

    The book has a number of chapters on Communist China with plenty of gory and graphic details. But consider Cambodia and Pol Pot. He had studied in France where he “became enamored with Marxism, visited socialist Yugoslavia, and joined the French Communist Party.”

    He was intent on fully implementing socialism and the complete abolition of private property in Cambodia: “Of course, it didn’t work. Even after he killed more than a million ‘resisters,’ starvation killed another million or more. Estimates are that the Khmer Rouge may have killed between 13 and 20 per cent of the Cambodian population during Pol Pot’s regime.”

    Paul also has an interesting chapter on how “Socialism encourages eugenics”. He lists a number of socialists who were infatuated with eugenics, including George Bernard Shaw, Marie Stopes, Margaret Sanger, Harold Laski, J. B. S. Haldane, John Maynard Keynes, and the Fabians Sidney and Beatrice Webb. Says Paul, “Socialism and eugenics are not a historical anomaly but a historical symbiosis that we risk any time we are tempted to accept an ‘ism’ that elevates the collective over the individual.”

    He also deals with the various clichés of socialism. ‘Equality’ is one such mantra of the socialists. But in socialism, all you get is an equality of misery, poverty and oppression except for those who are calling the shots. And those who complain about the wealthy top one percenters of capitalism need to understand a few things. In the US “the top one per cent income earners pay nearly 40 per cent of the total income tax revenue, and the top 10 per cent pay almost 70 per cent.”

    Moreover, socialism also has its elite rich:

    Under socialism, you still have one percenters, but they gain their lofty position not through merit but through party nepotism. In socialism, the one percenters are party members or bureaucrats of government planners who gain power not by giving the consumer what they want but by commanding the consumer to accept what they decree.

    Socialism makes the masses equally poor, while the free market allows anyone to climb out of poverty. Paul quotes Thomas Sowell: “None of the Marxist regimes around the world has ever had as high a standard of living for working people as there is in many capitalist countries.”

    He also covers the myth of Scandinavian socialism. These countries are basically free-market economies with a large welfare state component:

    Nordic countries generally don’t have state-enforced minimum wages. Not only are the Scandinavian countries largely free of consumer price controls, but they also largely lack governmental control of minimum wages… Scandinavian countries typically do have sky-high individual income-tax rates on the middle class, but their corporate taxes have long been lower than American rates.

    Paul also deals with the myth of the great industrialists of the nineteenth century as so-called robber barons. He is worth quoting at length on this:

    Yet as Andrew Carnegie’s wealth grew so did the economy. Poverty declined from over 90 per cent of people living in extreme poverty worldwide in 1820 to around 75 per cent of people living in extreme poverty in 1910. By the time the industrial revolution was in full swing, wages were rising and the standard of living known previously only to kings was becoming far more accessible. From the time of Carnegie’s death in 1919 until the present, the number of people living in extreme poverty declined to less than 10 per cent. As much of the world embraced capitalism in the twentieth century, childhood mortality plummeted from nearly a third of children dying before the age of five to less than one per cent in wealthy countries and 4.3 per cent worldwide.

    Those are impressive figures which the advocates of socialism decline to mention. And the story of Venezuela, of course, gets several chapters in this book. Paul cites one university professor:

    I have known the reality of the failure of socialism in my own flesh. And as I live in Venezuela, I want to show that this is an absolute failure always and everywhere. Socialism, whatever form it may take, only brings economic destruction and worsening of the conditions of human life.

    Paul reminds us of the hypocrisy of the spruikers of socialism. Sanders, for example, is a millionaire. And the Hollywood rich kids who tell us capitalism is evil just need to zip it: Says Paul:

    They scold us from their Beverly Hills mansions and private jets. They lecture us through their Juvederm-plumped lips. Perhaps we should send them travel brochures on income equality in Pakistan and Ethiopia. Citizens in those countries enjoy much greater income equality, albeit less access to fine dining and Prada sunglasses.

    He also has chapters on issues such as climate alarmism and the Green New Deal. In his closing chapter, he finishes with these words:

    I will continue to fight for a free market economy because it is the only system consistent with liberty and the only system that provides greater prosperity and opportunity for all. If your goal is to help the poor become better off, there is no more humanitarian economic system than capitalism…
    Capitalism, the freedom of voluntary exchange, is what made America great. The pursuit of freedom is a noble quest and one not to be compromised. My hope is that the next generation of American youth will study and reflect on socialism’s long history of violence and famine. My hope is that the next generation will understand that free markets and free people have produced better health, longer life expectancy, and reduced poverty and suffering around the world. My hope is that they will choose liberty.

    Those should be our hopes as well.

    Bill Muehlenberg is a Melbourne cultural commentator.

    Spectator paywalled

  152. Leigh Lowe

    Wombats are 93.1% concrete.
    With reo.

  153. Overburdened

    Mind you, no mobile phones etc so the truck diver pissed off with his truck to get help.

    All round a long cold miserable experience.

    These days the driver would be in gaol for the dead wombat.

    Not that either the driver or the wombat anticipated it demise, along with the car.

    All I learnt from this was to not own a 120Y.

  154. Top Ender

    New book sounds good. Hitler gets a serve too

    Socialism: the inconvenient truth
    Bill Muehlenberg

    10 November 2019

    For as long as socialism has been around, there have been critics of it. And rightly so. As Ronald Reagan once quipped, “A socialist is someone who has read Lenin and Marx. An anti-socialist is someone who understands Lenin and Marx.”

    Sadly it seems far too few people actually understand it. Recent polls, for example, have shown that at least half of all American millennials are favourably disposed to socialism. They are in desperate need of some understanding. As such, it is welcome news indeed that a new book has just been released to help educate us on these important matters.

    Rand Paul, the US Senator from Kentucky, has just penned The Case Against Socialism (Broadside Books, 2019). It is an extremely helpful expose of the failure that is socialism – in theory, and especially in practice. In 40 short but highly informative chapters Paul makes his case. In the introduction he explains why this book is necessary:

    This is the story of an evil well documented and yet still somehow enticing, even in America. This is the story of socialism in all its drab and dreary machinelike destruction of individual thought, creativity, and ambition. This is the story of socialism in all its violence, bloodshed, and tyranny. It is a cautionary tale of how America has so far eluded the siren call of something for nothing, of an equality determined and enforced by government – but also of how close we still are to succumbing to socialism.

    Paul demonstrates how socialism always becomes authoritarian, and only fully comes about by the coercive power of the state: “Unless you imagine a voluntary revolution where all owners of industry or commerce give up their wealth to the state, you have to acknowledge that state ownership of the means of production can only occur at the end of a truncheon. Around the world, time and time again, strongmen have come to power promising the free stuff of socialism, only to succumb to the siren song of power.”

    It is like a broken record: when socialists overthrow authoritarian regimes, they end up becoming just the same – or worse. Think of Cuba where Castro replaced Batista; Nicaragua, where the Sandinistas replaced Somoza; or Russia where Lenin and Stalin replaced the czars:

    Each time a revolt of the ‘people’ promised the manna of socialism and justice. And each time the result was rule by an elite that degenerated into rule by the few or even by one, often with the democratic title of president but with the ominous title – ‘for life’.

    And remember, Hitler was also a socialist. Says Paul:

    National socialism was part and parcel to Nazism from the beginning. In 1920, Hitler first presented the Nazi Party a twenty-five-point plan for national socialism. Most of the plan could be found in any Bolshevik platform except for the racial animus against the J ews.

    The book has a number of chapters on Communist China with plenty of gory and graphic details. But consider Cambodia and Pol Pot. He had studied in France where he “became enamored with Marxism, visited socialist Yugoslavia, and joined the French Communist Party.”

    He was intent on fully implementing socialism and the complete abolition of private property in Cambodia: “Of course, it didn’t work. Even after he killed more than a million ‘resisters,’ starvation killed another million or more. Estimates are that the Khmer Rouge may have killed between 13 and 20 per cent of the Cambodian population during Pol Pot’s regime.”

    Paul also has an interesting chapter on how “Socialism encourages eugenics”. He lists a number of socialists who were infatuated with eugenics, including George Bernard Shaw, Marie Stopes, Margaret Sanger, Harold Laski, J. B. S. Haldane, John Maynard Keynes, and the Fabians Sidney and Beatrice Webb. Says Paul, “Socialism and eugenics are not a historical anomaly but a historical symbiosis that we risk any time we are tempted to accept an ‘ism’ that elevates the collective over the individual.”

    He also deals with the various clichés of socialism. ‘Equality’ is one such mantra of the socialists. But in socialism, all you get is an equality of misery, poverty and oppression except for those who are calling the shots. And those who complain about the wealthy top one percenters of capitalism need to understand a few things. In the US “the top one per cent income earners pay nearly 40 per cent of the total income tax revenue, and the top 10 per cent pay almost 70 per cent.”

    Moreover, socialism also has its elite rich:

    Under socialism, you still have one percenters, but they gain their lofty position not through merit but through party nepotism. In socialism, the one percenters are party members or bureaucrats of government planners who gain power not by giving the consumer what they want but by commanding the consumer to accept what they decree.

    Socialism makes the masses equally poor, while the free market allows anyone to climb out of poverty. Paul quotes Thomas Sowell: “None of the Marxist regimes around the world has ever had as high a standard of living for working people as there is in many capitalist countries.”

    He also covers the myth of Scandinavian socialism. These countries are basically free-market economies with a large welfare state component:

    Nordic countries generally don’t have state-enforced minimum wages. Not only are the Scandinavian countries largely free of consumer price controls, but they also largely lack governmental control of minimum wages… Scandinavian countries typically do have sky-high individual income-tax rates on the middle class, but their corporate taxes have long been lower than American rates.

    Paul also deals with the myth of the great industrialists of the nineteenth century as so-called robber barons. He is worth quoting at length on this:

    Yet as Andrew Carnegie’s wealth grew so did the economy. Poverty declined from over 90 per cent of people living in extreme poverty worldwide in 1820 to around 75 per cent of people living in extreme poverty in 1910. By the time the industrial revolution was in full swing, wages were rising and the standard of living known previously only to kings was becoming far more accessible. From the time of Carnegie’s death in 1919 until the present, the number of people living in extreme poverty declined to less than 10 per cent. As much of the world embraced capitalism in the twentieth century, childhood mortality plummeted from nearly a third of children dying before the age of five to less than one per cent in wealthy countries and 4.3 per cent worldwide.

    Those are impressive figures which the advocates of socialism decline to mention. And the story of Venezuela, of course, gets several chapters in this book. Paul cites one university professor:

    I have known the reality of the failure of socialism in my own flesh. And as I live in Venezuela, I want to show that this is an absolute failure always and everywhere. Socialism, whatever form it may take, only brings economic destruction and worsening of the conditions of human life.

    Paul reminds us of the hypocrisy of the spruikers of socialism. Sanders, for example, is a millionaire. And the Hollywood rich kids who tell us capitalism is evil just need to zip it: Says Paul:

    They scold us from their Beverly Hills mansions and private jets. They lecture us through their Juvederm-plumped lips. Perhaps we should send them travel brochures on income equality in Pakistan and Ethiopia. Citizens in those countries enjoy much greater income equality, albeit less access to fine dining and Prada sunglasses.

    He also has chapters on issues such as climate alarmism and the Green New Deal. In his closing chapter, he finishes with these words:

    I will continue to fight for a free market economy because it is the only system consistent with liberty and the only system that provides greater prosperity and opportunity for all. If your goal is to help the poor become better off, there is no more humanitarian economic system than capitalism…
    Capitalism, the freedom of voluntary exchange, is what made America great. The pursuit of freedom is a noble quest and one not to be compromised. My hope is that the next generation of American youth will study and reflect on socialism’s long history of violence and famine. My hope is that the next generation will understand that free markets and free people have produced better health, longer life expectancy, and reduced poverty and suffering around the world. My hope is that they will choose liberty.

    Those should be our hopes as well.

    Bill Muehlenberg is a Melbourne cultural commentator.

    Spectator paywalled

  155. Snoopy

    39600km on the clock, Snoop?

    For a 120Y?

    Riiiiiight. Legit.

    Miles, KD, miles. Plus original leather (brown) seats.

  156. Rex Mango

    TE, this habit of inserting people of colour into historical pieces is ridiculous. Watched Darkest Hour for first time recently and there were all these black dudes walking round in 1940s London.

  157. Knuckle Dragger

    The Woollies Discovery Garden. A last, giant effort.

    Spinach. Chives. Radishes. Beetroot.

    All in the same placcy Chinee container. This must not fail.

  158. Leigh Lowe

    Went to a D-Gen outside broadcast at the Swagman once for breakfast.
    Fancy dress.
    Everyone dressed in atrocious 70’s gear at sparrow’s fart.
    Managed to consumate in the dressing room of the clothes shop where the future Mrs L worked before opening time.
    Body shirt ripped open and brown flares down around the platform shoes.
    Phwoar!!

  159. Snoopy

    These days the driver would be in gaol for the dead wombat.

    If you must drive in wombat country, always carry a spare Abo.

  160. Snoopy

    TE, this habit of inserting people of colour into historical pieces is ridiculous. Watched Darkest Hour for first time recently..

    The title should have been a giveaway. But, no. Apparently.

  161. Leigh Lowe

    Spinach. Chives. Radishes. Beetroot.

    OK.
    My companion planting guide tells me that chives and radish are like Israelis and Pallys and
    spinach and beetroot are like Griks and Macedonians.
    Good luck.

  162. Rex Mango

    Snoopy, will pay that.

    Egg, that car video was good. Nice red XA coupe that he didn’t discuss would’ve been my choice.

  163. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    And remember, Hitler was also a socialist. Says Paul:

    National socialism was part and parcel to Nazism from the beginning. In 1920, Hitler first presented the Nazi Party a twenty-five-point plan for national socialism. Most of the plan could be found in any Bolshevik platform except for the racial animus against the J ews.

    Indeed?

  164. mh

    This should help cool some of the hyperbowl

    He also covers the myth of Scandinavian socialism. These countries are basically free-market economies with a large welfare state component:

    Nordic countries generally don’t have state-enforced minimum wages. Not only are the Scandinavian countries largely free of consumer price controls, but they also largely lack governmental control of minimum wages… Scandinavian countries typically do have sky-high individual income-tax rates on the middle class, but their corporate taxes have long been lower than American rates.

  165. Rex Mango

    Inserting people of colour into historical films fits with a current trend. The BOM adjusts the temperature record. NT Police turns police shootings into deaths in custody. Bruce Jenner is a woman.

  166. Rex Mango

    Egg, when/where is the auction for those cars?

  167. Black Ball

    How Warren Perso never won an Oscar for his directorial efforts is beyond me.
    On a side note, have never viewed Black Hawk Down before. Very confronting. Seems like a lot of indecision on the part of the powers that be to get to the crash sight and rescue the fallen.

  168. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Further material from Arky’s link above re China’s Cultural Revolution:

    Chinese use the word “struggled” instead of beaten and “struggle sessions” were ubiquitous during the Cultural Revolution.

    The struggle sessions followed a pattern, it may be no exaggeration to think of them as ritualized. They were public occurrences where the victim was abused before an audience. Struggle sessions were sometimes held in stadia with tens of thousands of onlookers–doing nothing to help, certainly–hurling invective and missiles if anything. The victim often had ink splashed on his or her face, the hair was often cut, signs were hung around the neck. The head was always forced up so that the face was visible. The victim was held by the leaders of the struggle session in a specific manner. The arms were drawn behind the back and painfully upward. A new term, “jetplaning” was created for this action.

    One man’s struggle session was set for a specific day and time. The man walked up to the entrance to the arena. The audience was already inside. Hot-blooded guards demanded to know what he wanted. The man asked if a struggle session was not about to occur. The guards barked affirmation. And isn’t so-and-so being struggled today? YES, what of it? Well, I am Mr. so-and-so, you can’t have the struggle session without me, can you?

    The man had casually walked to the place of his beating to receive his beating. Bian knowingly walked to her death. Liu Shaoqi walked out of his quarters in Zhongnanhai and into a mob of Red Guards who pelted him to the ground with their Little Red Books. It is not to minimize the suffering of those struggled to, in these circumstances, consider objectively whether the word “victim” is an appropriate term here.

    Signs around the neck, heads shorn, ink splashed on faces, jetplaning, mass audiences–no, no, no, there is something more going on here than individual violence and individual culpability.

    The Cultural Revolution has been written about from the political perspective, from the historical perspective, the legal, the philosophical, and from the perspective of the arts; it has been written about in first-person memoirs, and in the case-study method, but it is still very early in Cultural Revolution scholarship. I suggest considering the behavior of Chinese during the Cultural Revolution from a consciously anthropological perspective.

    An anthropological perspective should and must be taken when human beings go so awry. Our species are monkeys let loose at times, no wonder we invented God to control us as we crept and dreamt towards civilization. And still we fall as ever we fell.

    Anthropology is us. We are not far from the primal horde, unthinking brutes bashing a meat bone at an obelisk, our minds aligned to each other in some moon daze of ritual belonging. It is in us and of us. We so often accept it, the things that are done, that we do to each other, the large and small cruelties of our cultural revolutions and our caliphates, systematized and routinized, even standardized into forms that encompass the oppressed working in concert with the oppressor. In contemporary terms, the power of crowds.

    Some depressing stuff in those videos, Arky, the Evergreen hatefest mirroring the Maoist decade long pile-on. Not convinced though that we really are at the point of a return to Caesarism as expounded in Zippy’s video – yet.

  169. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘chives and radish are like Israelis and Pallys and spinach and beetroot are like Griks and Macedonians’

    A cultural melting pot. Like Chermany.

    Can’t go wrong.

  170. RobK

    Swank.
    You’ll be a while living that down.😀

  171. Rex Mango

    Re Hitler the socialist, wrote a uni paper saying such and got failed a long time ago. Topic was Marxism, so I tee’d off and wrote this grand history of everything that ended up saying WW2 was the result of Marx. He gave me like less than 35%, which meant I had to repeat the subject.

  172. mh

    A Londoner born in 1933 told me that he didn’t see a black person until he was in his mid teens.

  173. Black Ball

    What you just related Rex Mango is tertiary education in a nutshell.

  174. PoliticoNT

    Just on films…..

    Des (Deskperson) – if you’re in Canberra this Thursday night, I’ve organised an all clubs opening night screening of Ford v Ferrari in Manuka from 8.30pm. As a car nut it has a lot of appeal. Should be a good night. 100+ have confirmed. Hopefully it will be as balls to the wall as the trailers make it out to be. Say hello if you come along.

    Where ever Cats be I would encourage you to support this film. For the obvious reasons.

    Cheers

  175. Overburdened

    Snoopy

    Back in the day it was all about trying to fit in.

    No time for cultural sensitivities.

  176. Black Ball

    Always amused by the advertisement spruiking Carson’s Law. Made before my time, love the black fella being represented by Ms Carson. Resplendent in vest and slacks. Can any learner Cat shed light on his misdemeanor?

  177. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    hahaha, Hairy has just called down the hallway to tell me Woolahra, Waverley and Randwick in Sydney’s East has been declared and area of ‘climate emergency’. Seems even with all the bushland around and within our area, on the edges of South Head, we have escaped muster this time.

    Be careful driving to the Prince of Wales Hospital tomorrow, he cautions. (I’m taking son with broken arm for a CT scan). He’s joking of course, although the area is definitely ‘listed’, but I do not think built-up areas are risk free – see my comment earlier about the whole of Sydney’s west, where I think the risk is real, although maybe not as soon as tomorrow. It is not real in Randwick so I agree with Hairy there, and I’ll have no hesitation in taking to the roads; no more than usual anyway, given all the ‘I must keep 50 metres of stopping space ahead of me’ road-hoggers I’ll meet in heavy traffic on that route.

    Also, what’s all this about Canberra declaring ‘car free’ days, or day? Voluntary symbolism I hope.
    I they intend to compulsorily stop free traffic then I’ll drive to Canberra in protest just to break their law by doing a few wheelies around and about on verboten streets. Here’s the possibility for a new Convoy of No Confidence, Struth. 🙂

  178. Steve trickler

    Highlights from Politicon.

    Michael Knowles vs. Chris Hahn. Knowles handled himself well.



    Debate in full

  179. Overburdened

    Elizabeth

    I affectionately recall being whacked with a shinai on occasions when in certain situations.

    In Australia it is known as, this is not to knock you out it is to wake you up.

    Nations to the north will accept any opportunity to beat a person.

  180. Leigh Lowe

    Always amused by the advertisement spruiking Carson’s Law. Made before my time, love the black fella being represented by Ms Carson. Resplendent in vest and slacks. Can any learner Cat shed light on his misdemeanor?

    Impersonating a [email protected]?

  181. PoliticoNT

    Lizzie – when my previous comment is out of moderation you will see not all those residing in Canberra see ‘free’ days as a good thing. Some days (normally Earth Day) I feel like burning an open can of petrol. That’s when I’m not trialling one of my 60s Fiats around the streets. Cheers

  182. Nelson Kidd-Players

    areff #3207965, posted on November 11, 2019 at 1:24 am

    Ex’s uncle was having his dinner, made a strange noise and dropped face-first into his minestrone. His kids offered it to family members before putting it on the market.

    I’m not surprised there were no takers for the minestrone.

  183. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    He gave me like less than 35%, which meant I had to repeat the subject.

    Best way to fail something, Rexie, is to stand firm on the high moral ground.
    I’ve done it myself. You can dine out on it for years.
    I stuck to my guns, and was proven right. The class were laughing at him.
    But the lecturer still didn’t change the mark. Gutless. 🙂

  184. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    On Earth Day – when this was a ‘thing’ we used to have big competitions on Catallaxy to tell each other exactly how many tons of carbins we were going to burn and what wattage we were going to use to light up our premises. There were some very innovative players, and of course no-one lied. 🙂

  185. max

    An absence of political correctness in this:

    German director Roland Emmerich has made the best film about Americans in World War II since Spielberg’s Saving Private Ryan (1999), although not at that level of achievement. His Midway – a tense, action-filled movie that is very much better than the star-studded 1976 film of the same title – is a welcome reminder of why we celebrate those who serve.

    Midway begins with the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. Those sequences are good, although one is conscious of the video-game-like computer-generated imagery (CGI), partly because its execution is at times imperfect (that’s the world we live in), and partly because you know the dive-bombing and strafing Japanese Zeros and extravagant explosions and burning ships cannot possibly be live-action. Imperfect though it is, it puts you smack-dab in the action – much more so than Michael Bay’s 2001 film, Pearl Harbor.

    Early on, we meet Edwin T. Layton (played in yet another fine performance by Patrick Wilson), the Naval intelligence officer who had warned of an impending Japanese attack on Pearl, and who would help guide the later plan for the Battle of Midway. Layton had been stationed in Tokyo in the 1930s as an attaché and spoke Japanese. He even met there with Isoroku Yamamoto (Etsushi Toyokawa), the admiral who would oversee the Pearl Harbor raid and would plan the attack on Midway Island, which the Japanese coveted as a staging point for their hoped-for invasion of America’s West Coast.

    In one conversation with Yamamoto, Layton tells the Admiral that, of course, “nobody wants war.” Yamamoto smiles. Knowingly. Mr. Wilson’s eyes show that he has not missed this subtle “tell.”

    The newly appointed Admiral Chester Nimitz, now CINCPACFLT (Commander-in-Chief, Pacific Fleet) – well played by Woody Harrelson – knows the boys at the Pentagon still don’t grasp the value of Layton’s knack for piecing together intercepted Japanese communications, and Nimitz allows Layton and Joseph Rochefort (a fine Brennan Brown), the eccentric codebreaker who pads around the office in slippers and a robe, to do what they do. In fact, he bets everything on their ability to decipher and describe the Japanese Navy’s next moves.

    Much of the film depicts naval aviators taking off from and landing on aircraft carriers, always a harrowing sight. In combat missions, the flight crews discover that the torpedoes they drop – that land in the ocean and speed towards a Japanese carrier or battleship – simply bounce off a ship’s hull with a metallic thud. The oxygen mixture in one pilot’s cockpit is FUBAR and burns his lungs. Machine guns jam. One must remember that the regimes in both Germany and Japan were deeply, almost essentially militaristic and that this was not true in the United States. When the attack on Pearl Harbor came and America was forced to enter the war, the nation was flatfooted, undermanned, and perilously short on war materiel.

    Part of what made the Allied war efforts ultimately successful was America’s “can-do” spirit: the ability to problem solve on the fly and to sacrifice for the common good.

    Paul Johnson wrote of this in his superb book Modern Times: “One reason the Americans won Midway was by reducing a three-month repair-job on the carrier Yorktown [badly damaged at the Battle of the Coral Sea] to forty-eight hours, using 1,200 technicians round the clock.”

    This incident involved Admiral Nimitz, who, when told that the Yorktown couldn’t possibly be ready in less than ninety days, said: “We must have this ship back in 72 hours.” One may imagine the blank stares of the engineers. But they did it – early. And as the ship left Pearl Harbor to engage the Japanese at Midway, you could see the lightning arcs of welders still working in the night. A version of the story is in Emmerich’s Midway, but not that vivid, nighttime image, which in real life captured both can-do resolve and self-sacrifice: those welders weren’t combat-sailors. The Yorktown was sunk at Midway.

    There are enough grip-the-armrest excitements in Midway to make it worth the price of admission. You miss some dialog owing to the noise level of the fighter and bomber engines and, again, those frequent explosions.

    There are other solid performances besides those already mentioned, including Dennis Quaid as “Bull” Halsey, Luke Evans as Wade McClusky, Aaron Eckhart as Jimmy Doolittle, and Nick Jonas as an ill-fated machinist mate/gunner. But there are two actors at the center of the lives-of-the-warriors-and-their-wives subplot who don’t rise to the dramatic level asked of them: Ed Skrein as Dick Best, commander of the flight group that led the air battle at Midway, and Mandy Moore, as his long-suffering wife, Ann. Their performances are blandly competent but hardly the star turns they might have been in better hands. The orator Demosthenes clarified his speaking voice by practicing with pebbles in his mouth, removing them one by one. Mr. Skrein has left the gravel in.

    Most of the actors in Midway had the honor of portraying men and women who participated in the actual events, including Geoffrey Blake, as the great Hollywood director John Ford, who was at Midway in the midst of the battle (on War Department assignment) and kept his cameras rolling. You can hear in his The Battle of Midway what you don’t hear in Emmerich’s film: the use of the derogatory “Japs.”

  186. areff

    That’s when I’m not trialling one of my 60s Fiats

    What models? Love Fiats. Had a bunch of them over the years.

  187. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Joseph Rochefort (a fine Brennan Brown), the eccentric codebreaker who pads around the office in slippers and a robe,

    Rochfort wore carpet slippers, and a smoking jacket for two good reasons – the bunker he worked in was cold, and issue shoes caused him trouble with his corns.

  188. mh

    UK headline

    Boris Johnson handed major boost as Nigel Farage stands down hundreds of candidates

  189. C.L.

    My favourite Fiat – the beautiful 1500.

  190. Bruce in WA

    A Londoner born in 1933 told me that he didn’t see a black person until he was in his mid teens.

    My late grandmother was born in England in 1901 and migrated to WA in 1928 with her (new husband) and 1-year-old son to escape a physically violent stepfather and join her brothers here. She longed to go back to “her” England, to once again see the green fields she told me so much about.

    She scrimped and saved and in 1964, she and Grandad went “home” again. It was a huge disappointment to her. She told me “It’s not my England anymore”. When I asked her what she meant, Nanna (who didn’t have a nasty bone in her 4’11” body) said: “Where we lived was full of black people. We didn’t see anyone we knew.” (That was Birmingham so yes, it had changed.)

    Fortunately for her, they went and stayed with relatives in the country and had a wonderful time later. As an aside, and with hindsight, looking at the photos now I can see how ill my Grandad was. He had a massive thrombosis in his right arm which one day a few months later, without warning, broke free and moved to his heart. He collapsed at work and was, reportedly, dead before he hit the ground.

  191. PoliticoNT

    Areff – at the moment a 124AC. I picked one up locally for $3000, only done 55,000 miles. (The original ball-joints were riveted in and still there in the front suspension arms. Those puppies do not last to 155,000…) The advantage of being in a club and getting involved your community (an important lesson I learned from my parents when we moved to Darwin in 1985 and they had to start again) is you get first dibs at all kinds of goodies. Currently running its original 1438, but I am upgrading to a 1756 from a CC.

    Lots of fun to drive. Have owned an AC previously (first car, bought in 1985, driven from Sydney to Darwin without missing a beat), a CC, a BC, and then a glorious 124 Sedan Special with a 2 litre Lancia engine and Fiat 132 gearbox/transmission.

  192. struth

    You can hear in his The Battle of Midway what you don’t hear in Emmerich’s film: the use of the derogatory “Japs.”

    What bullshit.
    So is Aussie derogatory for an Australian?

    An abbreviation is derogatory?

    Maybe Chink, slope, slope head, Slant Eyes , gook, etc, but even Nip is only short for Nippon.

  193. areff

    the mid-70s 124 sports coupe won my heart the first time I saw it. And one day I’ll have an X1/9. but it will have to wait, as I’ve just spent my mad money on Merc 300E in near-mint condition and with only 136,000 kms on the clock.

    More Fiats here, including the peppery 750, one of the most fun cars I’ve ever owned. You wouldn’t think you could have much fun with a mere 750cc, but my word that’s not true.

    http://www.themotorhood.com/themotorhood/2010/2/9/articles-fiat-coupes-classic-buyers-guide-218

  194. PoliticoNT

    C.L – a good friend of mine in our local Fiat Club runs a ’61 1500. Re-engined with a 1600 twin cam (with twin down drafts), and converted to floor shift. Is more fun than should be reasonably had. It is also a beautiful looking car. Fiats were largely built to a price point (compare my 124AC with a late 60s 105-Series 1750 and it becomes quickly apparent where the money goes), but were much more modern tech wise.

    I might go down the re-engined 1500 route when my AC is finished.

  195. areff

    If I get to Darwin, Politico, I’ll get in touch. I have the perfect combo now: a Mitzi 4WD for fishing and a stately gentleman’s vehicle for town.

    Still want the X1/9 though — the 1500 model.

  196. C.L.

    I’m just glad it’s still being enjoyed, Politico, but – far out – a floor shift on a 15o0!

  197. PoliticoNT

    Areff – interesting. One of our guys runs an 850 fitted with a 1000c Autobianchi engine. Bascially blue-printed racing beast. Built by a local garage (old school Italian) in consultation with a guy from Toppolino in the US. Set up with medium revs but max torque. Like a high performance small block v8. Also has specialist racing suspension, and a dash board like something out of a Joint Strike Fighter. The owner is in his 70s, runs it as his daily driver, he had a long career in high-tech signals related stuff.

    There are a few X1/9s in the club. Owners tend to be very hands on – take a fair bit of work to get right but then tend to be pretty robust. If you’re interested look up MidWest-124 on Facebook. He does a lot of work on X1/9s, amongst other things.

  198. PoliticoNT

    Areff – I remain domicilied in the NT as that is where my heart rests. And I spend a lot of time there, friends there, family there etc. But….currently living in Canberra. That is why I joined the Fiat Club. Away from the public service there are a lot of normal people here.

  199. areff

    Will do, but bed beckons. Too much work today. Sleep tight, Cats.

  200. PoliticoNT

    C.L. – it’s not a difficult job. From memory there needed to be a component for the steering box manufactured (by hand) but it was fairly straight forward. Apparently has been running without a beat for 20+ years. The owner is my main partner in crime in keeping the club going. (We are reasonably small, and most members are 50+). We had a club day recently – Concorso/UnConcorso – best & worst cars, bbq, wine, pizza etc. Was a nice day. The AC’s cam belt was off, so I took the 1500. It’s just a cool, thrashable, driveable load of fun. Twin cams and twin carbs make a beautiful sound as well. You should get one. The bodies are surprisingly solid.

  201. C.L.

    It’s one of the most beautifully shaped general driving cars of that era. I’m not sure if white-wall tyres were common in the Australian market originally but I like them on the examples you see online. Very smart.

  202. Rex Mango

    max, that is good review for Midway. Spoke to bloke who stood next to Bull Halsey on the bridge of USS New Mexico at Battle of Leyte Gulf. He said Bull Halsey turned to his boss, Bruce Fraser (British Admiral) and said ‘What do you reckon?’ Adm Fraser replied ‘Very impressive. We could do the same but it would be with half the amount of ships and take us four times as long’. Then Halsey said let’s get some lunch. A Pommy Colonel who was with them said he wanted to stay up there to watch some more. They went below leaving the Colonel and the ship shuddered as kamikaze took out the bridge, with no remains of the 20 odd blokes up there recovered.

  203. Rex Mango

    Re coloured folk in historical movies, someone needs to do a Tropic Thunder type job on say a Jane Austen story. Throw in transexuals, gender non binaries and you could have an absolute field day with something like Senes and Sensibility.

  204. Mark A

    Steve trickler
    #3209167, posted on November 12, 2019 at 1:05 am

    Fine work, T.H.G.

    Interesting trickler, alas had to turn the sound off and use captions. The guy has a voice and manner of speaking you could use as a sandblaster.

  205. Cold-Hands

    “Is that the one where the pasty Brit import to the Carribean…”
    They’re up to their third pasty British import after the first one was murdered & the second returned to his estranged wife.

  206. Cold-Hands

    Re coloured folk in historical movies, someone needs to do a Tropic Thunder type job on say a Jane Austen story. Throw in transexuals, gender non binaries and you could have an absolute field day

    The current Jane Austen adaptation, Sanditon, has a black heiress from the West Indies. Given that Austen left it unfinished, your wish may be granted.

  207. Miltonf

    So turdie peanut head is still steaming about losing in May. The entitlement of these people is stomach churning. Like spoilt brats.

  208. Black Ball

    Total Divas could well be my new favourite show.

  209. Rex Mango

    Steve T, that was good vid. Here’s look at the USN’s latest ship. Not much action till end, but is interesting to check out the crew. At 1.30 the girl with bino’s has great manicure and the people driving the thing show that the Yanks have feminised their navy like ours. So yes, bit depressing. Good to see they still using John Browning’s >100 year old 50 cal design on the world’s most advanced warship:

  210. Rex Mango

    Yeah, watching Total Divas too, quality Tv.

  211. Rex Mango

    Now Total Divas is showing a Charlie’s Angels infomercial. All about sassy empowered women (with one of colour) being controlled by Patrick Stewart, an older white patriarchal figure

  212. Rex Mango

    The only way this Charlie’s Angels will do well if you have a producer like Harvey Weinstein who can attract the core male teenage demographic it needs to succeed. If it is made by a posse of women, it will bomb.

  213. Black Ball

    Yes Rex, there was one black chick I believe. Sir Patrick Stewart needs to reprise his role in the fine Ricky Gervais sitcom ‘Extras’

  214. Rex Mango

    Black B, haven’t seen what you describe in Extras, will check it out. This Dance Moms show is just awful, going to bed.

  215. Steve trickler

    Bald, in Dagestan.



  216. JC

    Politico

    Make sure women don’t join the club as they wreck destroy every one created by dudes.

  217. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Tom, Tom,
    Wherefore art thou, Tom?

  218. Tom

    Cream rises to the top: veteran John Spooner is the fill-in cartoonist on Johannes Leak’s weekly day off.

  219. Tom

    He’s such a poor draftsman I’m only guessing the Tory hate figure in David Rowe’s cartoon is deputy PM Michael McCormack.

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