Open Forum: November 16, 2019

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  1. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Hi everybody

  2. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Eat my dust, slowpokes.

  3. Knuckle Dragger

    Oh thank God.

    Everyone was dragging themselves along by their own lips towards the finish line of that one.

  4. mh

    Andrew Hastie banned from China.

  5. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Interesting.
    Comments on the old thread appear to be closed.

  6. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    “For your tomorrow, you asked this man to die.

    If he could see you now, would he ask the reason why?”

  7. Top Ender

    I claim this thread for the 11th Hussars, and their charge into the Valley of Death.

  8. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    And this thread is loading slower than the old telephone dialup on a bad day.

  9. John Constantine

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-11-15/sex-dating-and-prejudice-why-we-are-a-nation-sharply-divided/11694038

    One Nation voters were the only group interested in dating someone with very right-wing views — and even they weren’t that keen, giving the idea a lukewarm 1.5, on average.

    It scored negatively with every other demographic except LNP voters, who shrugged off the idea with an average score of 0 — the survey data equivalent of: “Meh”.

    While we need to dig deeper to work out exactly what this is about, a few theories spring to mind, said social psychologist and University of Queensland researcher Dr Michael Thai.

    Typically, people are attracted to people who are similar to them, so it might reveal something about the way we see ourselves — specifically, that we prefer to think of ourselves as moderate or left-leaning.

    Alternatively, it may be that the cultural stereotypes we conjure up when asked to imagine a very right-wing person is much more negative than the stereotype of a very left-wing person.

    “If I ask you to imagine a very left-wing person, we typically think of the social justice warrior or maybe a radical feminist,” Dr Thai said.

    “So, they might be annoying, they might be frustrating but… they don’t really represent a threat to anyone’s health or wellbeing in the same way as an extremist on the other side of the spectrum.”

  10. Knuckle Dragger

    I think we broke Ozblogistan just before.

  11. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I claim this thread for the 11th Hussars, and their charge into the Valley of Death.

    I claim this thread in the name of Horatio Nelson – had half the crew of H.M.S Boreas flogged in eighteen months, and thought Christmas Day as good as any day to hang a mutineer. I could argue that the Navy hasn’t moved on, much, in matters of discipline.

  12. Zyconoclast

    The total amount of taxpayer money allegedly rorted from the state’s public sector by a senior public servant could reach $25 million, police prosecutors claim.

    And Attorney General John Quigley warned West Australians to prepare for more shocks as a Corruption and Crime Commission inquiry into the scandal gathered steam.

    Prosecutors alleged in court on Friday morning there was evidence to suggest a false invoicing scheme allegedly orchestrated by Paul Ronald Whyte, 56, could have dated back as far as 2008 and seen a further $20-25 million fleeced from the public purse, on top of the $2.5 million already alleged.

    Mr Whyte and his co-accused, Jacob Daniel Anthonisz, 43, who does not work in the public sector, faced Perth Magistrates Court on Friday after being arrested on Thursday as WA Police and the CCC pounced to “prevent further loss of any government funds”.

  13. Snoopy

    “If I ask you to imagine a very left-wing person, we typically think of the social justice warrior or maybe a radical feminist,” Dr Thai said.

    “So, they might be annoying, they might be frustrating but… they don’t really represent a threat to anyone’s health or wellbeing in the same way as an extremist on the other side of the spectrum.”

    The 100 million plus murdered since 1917 might beg to differ.

  14. Black Ball

    Natasha Henstridge in her pomp on Maximum Risk.

  15. Top Ender

    Kumanjayi Walker shooting: Teenager’s fatal flight from the law

    AMOS AIKMAN
    NORTHERN CORRESPONDENT
    @amosaikman

    9 MINUTES AGO NOVEMBER 16, 2019
    A few days before Kumanjayi Walker’s death, ­according to his family, he cut off his court-­ordered ankle bracelet and fled from a ­rehabilitation centre in Alice Springs.

    It’s not clear why he did that. Some say he was “just a teenager”; others say he was scared. He may have wanted to be nearer to relatives or his sweetheart, Rikisha Watson, whose social media tributes include: “Love him no matter what happens … I still miss you all the time.”

    Walker, 19, was on a partially suspended 16-month sentence for theft and property offences. He would have been released from jail on or about October 21.

    His decision to flee began a catastrophic chain of events that brought his troubled life into deadly contact with the scion of a prominent and wealthy Can­berra family.

    His story has cast a dark shadow over relations between police and Aboriginal Australians and once again highlighted the dire state of remote towns in the Northern Territory.

    The decorated constable who allegedly shot Walker, Zachary Rolfe, was a former army officer and a star private school pupil. He seemingly had the brightest ­future. Now he has been charged with murder over an indigenous death in custody and faces the prospect of decades in jail if ­convicted. He is expected to ­contest the charge.

    Whether Rolfe successfully defends his innocence, his name — like that of Palm Island policeman Chris Hurley — appears sure to ­acquire a lasting association with the divisions between ­indigenous and non-indigenous Australians.

    Their lives are vastly different, but the pain the Walker and Rolfe families must feel has tied them to the same tragic tale.

    Although Walker was a well-known petty criminal and reputedly an expert thief, he was treasured by his partner and relatives and accepted in his community. Watson’s grandmother Lottie Robertson-Williams, in whose home Walker stayed, says she “took him under my wing”.

    “I know a lot of people talk about him, talk about his bad ways, but to me he was a human being, a respected young fellow in my house,” Robertson-Williams says. “He had manners. He was a quiet person. His smile would ­always make my granddaughter smile, too.”

    One of her proudest moments was when Walker received a ­certificate for completing a youth development program.

    Troubled upbringing

    Walker was born on October 13, 2000, to parents who, according to his relatives, were both drinkers and died when he was young. ­People who worked in Haasts Bluff, near Papunya, remember him associating with ­petrol sniffers in about 2005.

    Walker was taken into care but struggled to adjust to the changing circumstances. “He was running all the time. He was running all his life, for his life,” says Louanna Williams, a heartbroken aunt.

    “The only rest he had was from the bullet — three shots — that’s his rest. How could they do this?

    “How could they come here without any permission and shoot my nephew?”

    Ayeetta Dixon, a witness to last Saturday’s tragedy and a relative through Walker’s foster family, says he grew up moving around and began getting into trouble in his early teens. Once Walker’s name was linked to a few break-ins, he would be hounded even for crimes he did not commit. “Some kids don’t want to put themselves in the blame, so they blame other kids instead,” Dixon says.

    Otto Sims, a respected figure in the community of Yuendumu, about 300km northwest of Alice Springs, where the shooting happened, says Walker had a mental disability. Others describe it as a learning difficulty or, possibly, foetal alcohol spectrum disorder, an under-recognised condition in outback Australia, according to several submissions to an ongoing federal parliamentary inquiry.

    The Weekend Australian has been told that although Walker had a long rap sheet, his most significant conviction for violence was October last year when he received a 12-month good behaviour bond for assaulting police and being disorderly in a police station. Relatives say Walker spoke rarely and reacted with violence only when he felt threatened.

    Walker reached Yuendumu about a week before he died. On the Wednesday before the shooting, there was an incident at ­Robertson-Williams’s home in which Walker threatened two police with an axe to “scare them”, then fled into the bush.

    “He went out the door, dropped the axe and ran, ran, ran,” Robertson-Williams says.

    Rolfe arrived to arrest Walker last Saturday for breaching the conditions of his suspended sentence. Although police have discussed just two officers entering the house, witnesses say at least two others were nearby. A source says all were part of a special response team sent from Alice Springs.

    Elizabeth Snape, who met the officers, says one mentioned an axe when she asked why he was carrying a gun. “He said, ‘We are not going to use it’,” Snape recalls.

    The fatal shooting

    Walker was shot in his grandmother Margaret Brown’s house while she and most of the rest of her extended family were at the cemetery burying her younger brother. The details of the shooting are now the subject of inquiries and criminal court proceedings. Police have said Walker “lunged” at the officers and Rolfe received a shoulder wound from an “edged weapon” before firing his gun.

    Relatives and witnesses dispute that account, saying Walker was pinned to the wall and bashed before being thrown on to a bed, and the gun went off seconds later.

    Relatives who entered the house between the shooting and when police established a crime scene the next day say the only “edged weapon” they saw was a small pair of scissors.

    Yuendumu is a dusty town of about 1000 people on the southern margins of the Tanami Desert. It usually has about four police plus an Aboriginal community police officer, who is the son of a local Warlpiri man.

    Walker could not receive proper medical attention after the shooting because the two Yuendumu clinic nurses had been evacuated that day after apparently fearing for their safety.

    Chief Minister Michael Gunner, NT Police and the NT Health Department have all blamed the evacuation on reports of “multiple break-ins” to staff accomm­odation. None will say whether those break-ins were attempted or successful and over what period they occurred. Gunner was forced to recant an incorrect claim that the nurses had been injured.

    Only a few days before Walker was shot, the Productivity Commission released a draft report that painted Territory children’s and families services as a spaghetti junction of poorly managed programs with little oversight or evidence that was useful. The report’s findings were similar to those of dozens of others in the years since the Howard government’s NT emergency response.

    Williams says like many other youngsters, her nephew struggled to cope without adequate support, particularly as he entered his teens.

    “He was going back and forth between Alice Springs and Yuendumu, living different lives,” she says. “When he came back to Yuendumu, he would get into trouble with the police … it’s difficult because, in Alice Springs, they live a town life where people drink, break in a lot and there’s domestic violence all around them.”

    The aftermath

    After shooting Walker, police took his body to the Yuendumu station but did not tell Walker’s relatives he was dead until the following day. Malcolm Wall, the head of a local Aboriginal corporation, says one of the officers even spoke through a hole in the fence to tell those gathered outside the station that Walker was still alive.

    About 10 years ago, riots in Yuendumu led to more than 100 people fleeing the community, leaving behind streets strewn with machetes and other weapons.

    After Saturday’s incident, the streets were reasonably quiet.

    Sims says: “We have told the people to stay calm. We are going to do it through white man’s law, through the courts.”

    Police have been seen in Yuendumu with assault rifles, prompting calls for guns to be banned from remote communities.

    Sims says Walker’s death has brought back painful memories of the frontier wars, including the 1928 Coniston massacre. During a speech at a rally in Alice Springs, he evoked the spirit of Bullfrog, an Aboriginal resistance fighter and a central figure in the Coniston story. “Now that’s gone, and people have reconciled,” Sims says.

    “But we still have it in our DNA that that’s what we went through.”

  16. Black Ball

    The 100 million plus murdered since 1917 might beg to differ.

    Communism hasn’t been practiced properly yet Snoopy. Imagine if it was successful.

  17. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Police have been seen in Yuendumu with assault rifles, prompting calls for guns to be banned from remote communities.

    Sims says Walker’s death has brought back painful memories of the frontier wars, including the 1928 Coniston massacre. During a speech at a rally in Alice Springs, he evoked the spirit of Bullfrog, an Aboriginal resistance fighter and a central figure in the Coniston story. “Now that’s gone, and people have reconciled,” Sims says.

    “But we still have it in our DNA that that’s what we went through.”

    Northern Territory cops carry assault rifles?

  18. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The total amount of taxpayer money allegedly rorted from the state’s public sector by a senior public servant could reach $25 million, police prosecutors claim.

    Some things never change in the Wild West, do they, Peter, formerly known as Memory Vault?

  19. Black Ball

    Who on God’s green earth is Otto Sims? The new Pat Dodson?

  20. Zyconoclast

    Formula 1 launches a plan to become carbon neutral by 2030

    The intention is to wipe out the carbon footprint of activity at race tracks, including road and air transport of staff and equipment to the events.

    F1 says it will “move to ultra-efficient logistics and travel and 100% renewably powered offices, facilities and factories” and offset emissions that cannot be cut.

    It added that it will make all events “sustainable” by 2025, including eliminating single-use plastics and ensuring all waste is reused, recycled or composted.

    And in 2021, rules will demand that the petrol used in F1 has a biofuel content of at least 10%.

  21. Mindfree

    Yes it is the real George Baker

    Check out the groupies

  22. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    No, they don’t much, Zulu.
    The methods used now might be a bit more refined today, but the end result is just the same as existed under The Little Gnome From The West and the WA Inc crowd.

  23. Mindfree

    And one of the great now gone Aus bands

  24. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Oldies make lousy groupies.
    They give the rest of us a bad name.

  25. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    We seem to have lost Elle in the thread change.

  26. Knuckle Dragger

    Zulu,

    The TRG are apparently out there as support to the locals. Both carry the M4 ‘patrol rifle’, effectively a beefed-up AR15. Plus the Glocks.

    The M4s are relatively new to the uniform but the TRG have had them for some time.

    The M4s are replacing the Remo 870 pumpies the NT cops drag around in vans and cars. They’re taken out more often than you’d think, the rumour says.

    Unless they’re aware of a higher than normal threat though, it’s just the Glocks. Plus the other stuff.

  27. feelthebern

    Release the body cam footage!

  28. mh

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    4m
    The Impeachment Witch Hunt should be over with the statement made last night by the President and Foreign Minister of Ukraine. Nervous Nancy Pelosi, who should be home cleaning up the dangerous & disgusting Slum she is making of her District in San Francisco, where even the filth pouring into the Pacific Ocean is rapidly becoming an environmental hazard, is getting NOTHING DONE. She is a Do Nothing Democrat as Speaker, and will hopefully not be in that position very long. Approve USMCA, which has been sitting on her desk for months!

  29. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    No Elle means no fun means time for bed.
    Night all.

  30. Confuses Old Misfit

    Make it good people. This is my birthday open thread. Be brilliant!

  31. Knuckle Dragger

    Duzzenmadda, bern.

    They could release the footage tomorrow, and it wouldn’t matter a jot what it showed (and I’m told it’s very favourable to the coppers, which makes a murder charge even more bewildering and strengthens my theory), the blecks will claims it’s fake or been altered.

    Nothing will change this.

  32. BrettW

    Just watched YouTube clips on the latest in Hong Kong protests.

    The footage in the University campuses is incredible with students taken over and basically preparing for battle. Footage of students making and stockpiling petrol bombs and training in throwing them into their campus swimming pool or on sports ground. Using bow and arrows and javelins etc. Trashed their own campuses.

    Mainland students and other foreign students have fled from some of the campuses.

    They are now blocking major highways and one of the cross harbour tunnels. Major damage to shops and transport etc.

    The protests have turned much more ugly. One clip showed a non protestor arguing with protesters who then poured petrol on him and set him on fire. Plenty of clips show it does not pay to stand up against them if you don’t agree with them. A 70 year old civilian bystander was hit and killed by a rock during incident between two groups (not police). The police shooting a few days ago not an easy one to justify as the shot protester was clearly unarmed. However the police officer appeared to be on his own with little backup. A traffic cop rather than riot police. With the mob mentality going on police are right to fear for their safety if in small groups or cut off.

    Saw a BBC interview with Joseph Wong one of the student leaders. Naturally blamed everything on the police but failed to accept violence also coming from protesters.

    Whilst their aims are admirable they are also totally unrealistic in that no way they are going to get democracy which is their main demand.

    Totally out of control.

  33. Ellie

    One of my favourite movies. I like the music. A bit of a mind Fuck

  34. Confuses Old Misfit

    THE Executives – bloody awful!

  35. Ellie

    MV – I was hanging out on the old open forum and thinking how dead it was. I missed this and you’ve gone to bed.

  36. BrettW

    KD,
    If the footage is favourable to the Constable then surely it is ridiculous to charge him so quickly. I missed your theory on this. Surely NT Police would not charge one of their own with murder when the footage shows it was not ? If he has been falsely charged then might be in a position to sue his own organisation.

    Accepted and respected !
    Although Walker was a well-known petty criminal and reputedly an expert thief, he was accepted in his community.

    “I know a lot of people talk about him, talk about his bad ways, but to me he was a human being, a respected young fellow in my house,”.

  37. Lazlo

    Ellie, nice theatre. Yad Vashem, reality.

  38. Mark A

    BrettW
    #3212934, posted on November 16, 2019 at 1:00 am

    Just watched YouTube clips on the latest in Hong Kong protests.
    Whilst their aims are admirable they are also totally unrealistic in that no way they are going to get democracy which is their main demand.

    Totally out of control.

    I wouldn’t rule out agent provocateurs.
    In a volatile situation it’s easy to stir up a few hotheads anyway.

  39. Leigh Lowe

    BrettW.
    This is how fucked up it is.
    They charged the cop to placate the Abos
    They bailed the cop and shipped him out of Dodge.
    In 3 weeks they will announce a review.
    Charges dropped the last pension day before Christmas.

  40. Leigh Lowe

    I would fucking love it if NT Plod decided to retreat to the station and let it fucking run it’s course.
    It would be mayhem on steroids before lunch on Sunday.

  41. Leigh Lowe

    Knuckle Dragger

    #3212933, posted on November 16, 2019 at 12:59 am

    Duzzenmadda, bern.

    They could release the footage tomorrow, and it wouldn’t matter a jot what it showed (and I’m told it’s very favourable to the coppers, which makes a murder charge even more bewildering and strengthens my theory), the blecks will claims it’s fake or been altered.

    Nothing will change this.

    Yep.
    Just after a couple of XR fuckwits got done cold, the Yage runs stories about how Plod can doctor bodycam footage.
    Yeah.
    They can edit in punches and spittle from XRs what nevah happen.

  42. Leigh Lowe

    The copper in NT is …
    (a) the quickest murder charge since Ceasar got knifed; and
    (b) the only person charged with murder to get imnediate bail since 1900.
    Fucked up.

  43. Cold-Hands

    It looks as though Peter Jackson’s version of “The Dambusters” is off again after being in development hell for over ten years. Despite the optimism expressed in the linked article, it no longer appears in his list of projects on Imdb & his ownership of the film rights is soon set to expire. A shame, because it sounded as if he really wanted to do it right.

  44. calli

    I know I’m in Latin America now!

    Sitting in departure lounge at Santiago – Captain and epauletted minions all rock up and kiss the (female) cabin crew. 😄

  45. Tom

    The anti-business daily’s professor of wrongology David Rowe.

  46. bespoke

    MatrixTransform
    #3212843, posted on November 15, 2019 at 10:36 pm

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1023&v=i6L77QTSH_Y&feature=emb_logo

    That was epic trolling. 👍👍

  47. Twostix

    Defence Minister Linda Reynolds is considering an unprecedented compulsory call-out of military reserves to help combat bushfire emergencies over the dry season amid the catastrophic fire threat facing NSW and Queensland.

    Lol.

  48. 1735099

    Barilaro on the fires –

    “When are we going to have the discussion, after this is all over, about the fervent opposition from the Greens to hazard reduction burns?” Hadley said.

    Barilaro asked a similar question: “While we lock up national parks and allow that fuel load on the forest floor to grow, why are we surprised when these fires hit they are at the intensity that they are at?”

    They could not have been more wrong. For a start, just 9 per cent of NSW is “locked up”, the second-lowest proportion in Australia, after Queensland’s 8 per cent. Second, if those parks are less well tended than they should be, it is substantially because the Berejiklian government cut a total of $121 million from the parks budget for 2016-17 and 2017-18, and a further $80 million in its most recent budget.

    More importantly, though, neither the Greens nor any of Australia’s main conservation groups express “fervent opposition” to hazard reduction. They accept that many of Australia’s ecosystems are fire-adapted and need occasional burning to maintain biodiversity.

    And while they apply certain caveats – about fire intensity, which ecosystems should and should not be burned et cetera – their position on fire, like their position on climate change, reflects the best science. To suggest otherwise is to be guilty of either ignorance or deliberate untruth.

    RTWT

  49. Twostix

    Those faggy army recruitment ads weren’t lying when the had the new army being a leftwing ngo staffed by women handing out sandwiches.

  50. Twostix

    Just 10% of the whole state which happens to be the 10% where all the fires start.

    Idiot.

  51. Twostix

    Last weekend low IQ leftwing wankers were crying out that their angry god Climate Change had started and caused bushfires fires, not the simple lack of back burning in their shrines to nature.

    Truly the dumbest thing in the universe.

    One week later “actually it’s the liberal party fault for not back burning!!”

    These people gave no souls.

  52. 1735099

    Last weekend low IQ leftwing wankers were crying out that their angry god Climate Change had started and caused bushfires fires, not the simple lack of back burning in their shrines to nature.

    And –

    One week later “actually it’s the liberal party fault for not back burning!!”

    Apparently these two situations cannot co-exist.
    Well, it is catallaxy.
    Only one idea at a time is comprehensible.

  53. sfw

    I think everyone is getting a little confused over the difference between backburning and if and when it can be used and fuel load reduction burning.

  54. 1735099

    “There is no way to put lipstick on this porcine situation,” said Ken Starr, a conservative commentator and the special prosecutor in the investigation that led to impeachment charges against Democratic president Bill Clinton in 1998.

    He’s referring to Fatty 5D’s* live Twitter feed intimidating witnesses.

    They’re beginning to eat their own.

    *Trump was deferred 5 times from service in Vietnam for heel spurs. He can’t recall which heel. He has a weight problem.

  55. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    I can’t see why, SFW.
    It’s a simple enough procedure and the name is self-explanatory.

  56. Entropy

    sfw
    #3212981, posted on November 16, 2019 at 7:12 am
    I think everyone is getting a little confused over the difference between backburning and if and when it can be used and fuel load reduction burning

    True

  57. sfw

    Peter, I haven’t really taken much interest in the fires however from what I’ve seen it seems that the blame is being placed on the greens for not allowing backburning, backburning is a firefighting tool and is of no use in preventing or reducing the threat of fire. I’m unaware of the greens stopping backburns (maybe I’m wrong) anyway it’s a fact that green policies here in Vic and elsewhere have severely reduced the number and size of fuel reduction burns. This eventually ends with terrible fires.

  58. sfw

    I meant ‘results in terrible fires, sorry.

  59. 1735099

    It’s a simple enough procedure and the name is self-explanatory.

    Profound ignorance on display.

  60. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Thank you for the clarification SFW. I thought you meant the term itself.
    Your summation is quite correct and highlights the fact that the real problem is the lack of effective fire reduction burning at all. The Greens are only a minor party in the blame for this.

    The major portion of the blame, as always, lies with successive state governments of BOTH persuasions who would rather spend tax dollars on more immediate vote catching endeavours.

  61. Mater

    Defence Minister Linda Reynolds is considering an unprecedented compulsory call-out of military reserves to help combat bushfire emergencies over the dry season amid the catastrophic fire threat facing NSW and Queensland.

    If she calls out the actual “Army Reserve”, it might be unprecedented. However, as a full time Infantryman, I distinctly remember being called in to fight fires, more than two decades ago.

  62. Shy Ted

    If I was Bob Nambers
    I’d Nam you in the morning
    I’d scold you in the evening
    All over this blog
    I’ve never been right yet
    I’ve got you all yawning
    I dream about Nam and ‘tards
    PhDs, projectors
    All over this blog, oo oo oo oo

    Verse 2
    If I had a Mazda
    I’d push it in the morning
    Polish it in the evening
    Post pics on my blog
    My blog, no one goes there
    Because it is boring
    A blog, a flog
    A legend in his own mind
    The proof is this blog oo oo oo oo

  63. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    I distinctly remember being called in to fight fires, more than two decades ago.

    Your confusion stems from a lack of understanding of the word “unprecedented” Mater.
    These days “unprecedented” means “hasn’t happened in the last two years”.

  64. Mater

    I just can’t keep up with modern terminology, Peter.
    I must be getting old.

  65. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    I must be getting old.

    Yeah. It’s a bitch.
    I can remember all the way back to when there were only two genders.
    I guess that makes me ancient.

  66. 1735099

    Still waiting for Hazmatic to correct his incorrect statement that Frank Topp was marched into D Coy 6 RAR two weeks before the Battle of Long Tan and calling me a liar –

    You can tell when the stenographer is lying. His keyboard is rattling.

    (#3212112, posted on November 15 2019 at 12.00 am)
    This is after attacking my credibility on a number of occasions because, I assume, the fact that a soldier who served in the war about which he claims authority, posts opinions that differ from his.
    It is also despite the fact that I cited two sources proving that Frank Topp was marched into D Coy on the afternoon of the day prior to the battle.

    Hazmatic, not for the first time, believes that his Anzackery prevails over the truth.
    And he lacks the courage to apologise for ad hominem abuse when he is caught in a lie.

  67. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    I wonder how long it will be before the concept of only two genders is “unprecedented”?

  68. Johno

    My solar panels are bigger than your solar panels Sniffy

    Spell BOOR for me sniffy.

  69. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Oh well, it was good while it lasted.
    Now that the troll feeders have arrived, it’s time to go do something productive.

  70. Des Deskperson

    ‘They bailed the cop and shipped him out of Dodge.’

    The cop – suspended on full pay, BTW, an interesting detail – is reportedly a scion of the Rolfe family with a chain of car dealerships across Canberra.

    It will be interesting to see if these are targeted or vandalised by local Canberra SJWs.

    His mother is reportedly a lawyer with Malaganis, Edwards, Johnson, a local firm of injury/compo lawyers. Mal Meninga fronts their TV ads.

  71. 1735099

    My solar panels are bigger than your solar panels Sniffy

    And so is your arse….

  72. Mater

    Still waiting for Hazmatic to correct his incorrect statement that Frank Topp was marched into D Coy 6 RAR two weeks before the Battle of Long Tan and calling me a liar

    Perhaps people might show you this courtesy if you did likewise, as opposed to shifting the goalposts, dogmatically arguing a demonstratively false contention or just disappearing.

    You’ve taken us beyond the realm of good manners where you are concerned.

  73. Boambee John

    *Trump was deferred 5 times from service in Vietnam for heel spurs. He can’t recall which heel. He has a weight problem.

    Perseveration problem flares up again. The link with envy at another’s success at an endeavour in which the sufferer failed becomes more likely.

  74. Bruce of Newcastle

    How dare you defy a god?

    Court rules atheist can have ‘I’m God’ license

    A US court has ruled that a man can have a license plate with the phrase “IM GOD”. According to court documents in a federal court in the state of Kentucky, Ben Hart, who identifies as an atheist, applied for the license plate in 2016 but was denied. … Hart challenged the decision in U.S. District Court in Frankfort and won. A judge ruled that “vanity plates” are considered private speech which is protected by the US First Amendment.

    One wonders if he can have those number plates what do all the other tin pot atheistic gods put on their plates? Maybe they can all fight it out with lightning bolts or something.

  75. Helen

    I’m still sad my old lady brushtail has met her end some months ago.

    Bruce, be glad you were kind enough to gain her confidence and that kindness probably let her raise some more bubs than she would have in the harsh reality of the wild. You gave her some grace she might not otherwise have had.

    Like my poddies now I have banished the biggies. They are fattening by the day.

  76. 1735099

    You’ve taken us beyond the realm of good manners where you are concerned.

    “Good manners” and catallaxy – pull the other one….

  77. Tel

    I can remember all the way back to when there were only two genders.

    I can remember so far back that there were two sexes, and only people who studied European languages would mention gender.

  78. Mater

    Thank you for proving my point.

  79. 1735099

    The combination of arrogance, ignorance and greed should and will haunt Boeing for eternity.


    That nails it pretty well.

  80. Mark M

    I sense a disturbance in the farce …

    The climate debate has taken a nasty turn.
    It is no longer a shouting match between climate affirmers and climate (doomsday) deniers.

    Now the finger-wagging is taking place among climate affirmers on the subject of personal responsibility for combating [global warming].

    There are two key actors in this unfolding saga.
    One embraces the importance of individual responsibility while the other derides it.

    Greta Thunberg, the new climate icon, does not fly.

    In contrast, Michael Mann, a prominent climate scientist, suggests that any talk of behavioral changes and personal responsibility reflects a soft form of climate denial.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/prakashdolsak/2019/11/14/does-greta-thunbergs-lifestyle-equal-climate-denial-one-climate-scientist-seems-to-suggest-so/#4a3407f067dc

  81. Johno

    I have more bathrooms than you Sniffy, so has Helen but she also has a bulldozer, so she is disqualified.

    Do I have to keep telling you how to spell BOOR?

  82. Spider

    An article well worth reading which for me (as a mild warmist) highlights some of the issues with the hysterical reporting on climate change. Sorry the Climate Emergency.

    https://issues.org/the-trouble-with-climate-emergency-journalism/

  83. 1735099

    Thank you for proving my point.

    There’s no point to prove.
    Any poster who departs from the orthodoxy here is abused, smeared and vilified.
    These smears usually begin with references to mental capacity, sexual preference, and venereal disease.
    It’s juvenile, predictable, and universal.
    It bothers me not – in fact, when I am abused, it helps me to understand that the abuse is a substitute for discussion and the respectful exchange of ideas and opinions.
    The abuse appears when the argument is lost.
    It’s a sign of desperation and laziness.

    You’ve taken us beyond the realm of good manners where you are concerned.

    I haven’t taken you anywhere.
    It’s always been the case.
    I’ve been posting here for a number of years now, and none of this has changed.
    This site has always been scrofulous.
    Still, it has operated as a pretty effective marketing tool for book sales.
    I also retain the hope that a counterpoint is useful.

  84. 1735099

    I have more bathrooms than you Sniffy, so has Helen but she also has a bulldozer, so she is disqualified.

    Do I have to keep telling you how to spell BOOR?

    Exhibit A.
    Refers to my previous post.

  85. Johno

    That Michael Mann can certainly twist an argument . So Greta is now a climate change denialist because she wants people to stop using fossil fuels etc. Way to go.

  86. Boambee John

    Johno

    Left wing revolutions always, always, collapse into a welter of claims of greater ideological purity and associated purges.

    See Germany’s Night of the Long Knives, Stalin’s show trials, Mao’s Cultural Revolution and Pol Pot in Cambodia Year Zero.

  87. Boambee John

    PS, I suspect that come the revolution here, drivers of MX5s will be on the list!

  88. Johno

    These smears usually begin with references to mental capacity, sexual preference, and venereal disease.

    No sniffy, they aren’t smears they are an affirmation that you are a flog. You insist on having the last word, you seem to think that this proves your point. Just because you are the last to post doesn’t mean you are right. You tie yourself in knots trying to prove a point. You change the same story endlessly for short term gain. Remember “He was a Reg,He was a nasho, He was a nasho turned Reg?” It was a recce,it was a half platoon patrol, it was an assault on a bunker system?.
    There are countless others, you are a truth twisting boofhead, trying to assuage your guilt in having not had the intestinal fortitude to stand with your fellow soldiers.
    It is also funny to treat you with the contempt you deserve Have a nice day.

  89. Mater

    Any poster who departs from the orthodoxy here is abused, smeared and vilified.

    Coming on here telling provable falsehoods, is not departing from the orthodoxy.
    It’s departing from the truth.

  90. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Turkey urges Australia to take responsibility for I$I$ fighters

    exclusive
    Mark Schliebs
    Reporter
    @mark_schliebs
    12:00AM November 16, 2019
    75 Comments

    Turkey is moving to deport up to three captured I$lamic State prisoners to Australia and has called on the Morrison government to accept them.

    Ankara this week sent up to 10 foreign citizens back to their home countries including Britain, the US and Germany as it removes I$I$ combatants and their families captured in Syria. It is understood the Australians were among a group of 959 foreign I$I$ fighters and family members being held by Turkey following its ­incursions into northern Syria.

    Turkey’s ambassador to Australia, Korhan Karakoc, confirmed to The Weekend Australian ­efforts were under way to repatriate “a few” suspected Australian I$I$ prisoners, whom he was unable to identify. But Mr Karakoc said Turkey wanted the Australian government to co-ordinate their return.

    “Turkey, at this stage, is not in a position to take a unilateral step because we have to co-ordinate, at the end of the day,” he said.

    “It really requires some formalities. The Australian side should be willing to accept them.

    “We certainly want to send them away so you can handle them here in their country. But it would take some time.”

    From the Oz.

  91. vr

    The footage in the University campuses is incredible with students taken over and basically preparing for battle. Footage of students making and stockpiling petrol bombs and training in throwing them into their campus swimming pool or on sports ground. Using bow and arrows and javelins etc. Trashed their own campuses.

    From what I hear, entire semester is canceled.

  92. mh

    1735099
    #3213003, posted on November 16, 2019 at 8:12 am
    My solar panels are bigger than your solar panels Sniffy

    And so is your arse….

    New thread off to a flyer.

  93. 1735099

    You insist on having the last word.

    And there’s nothing you can do about that.
    That’s why you resort to abuse.
    You have no idea about my service because you weren’t in my unit.
    You have no more credibility about my character than anyone else who posts here.
    The fact that you lack the guts to come out from behind you avatar simply confirms that.
    Mind you, you’re probably wise. You’ve posted enough statements here to make yourself vulnerable to civil action, given that my identity is available to anyone who knows how to use the nominal roll.

  94. Johno

    You’ve posted enough statements here to make yourself vulnerable to civil action

    You threatening me boy?

  95. 1735099

    Coming in here and posting provable falsehoods

    Name one.
    Then go upthread and note Hazmatic’s “provable falsehood”.
    Apparently that’s OK.
    It’s has nothing to do with fact, and everything to do with orthodoxy.
    I’m doing you a service by ensuring that this site does not become a complete echo chamber.

  96. mh

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    4h
    So they now convict Roger Stone of lying and want to jail him for many years to come. Well, what about Crooked Hillary, Comey, Strzok, Page, McCabe, Brennan, Clapper, Shifty Schiff, Ohr & Nellie, Steele & all of the others, including even Mueller himself? Didn’t they lie? A double standard like never seen before in the history of our Country?

    Can Trump pardon Roger Stone?

  97. Nick

    Now the finger-wagging is taking place among climate affirmers on the subject of personal responsibility for combating [global warming].

    It’s inevitable that zealotry in the form of total fossil fuel abandonment, followed by shaming, in much the same way as the vegans have done, would occur.

    It will be popcorn time though. I don’t know any rabid climate advocate who makes any climate driven adjustments to their lifestyle at all. Far the opposite.

  98. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    numbers regales us again with your tales of slaughtering vietcong

  99. Mater

    Name one.

    Fuck, Bob. You’d swear you hadn’t actually read this blog over the last six months. I could write a whole post with 40 links to your crap.

    But one only? Just off the top of my head, and in keeping with the Vietnam theme.

    1735099
    #3128121, posted on August 10, 2019 at 3:07 pm

    Danger Close — the title refers to mortar rounds that are deliberately aimed at an enemy whose position is perilously close to the Australian forces

    Not really.
    It refers to artillery, rather than mortars.

  100. Nick

    Captain and epauletted minions all rock up and kiss the (female) cabin crew.

    Not long now till that will be considered as being hate speech

  101. Eyrie

    Isn’t that Yovanovitch women the FORMER ambassador? Why does the nameplate say Ambassador?

  102. Nick

    Saw a BBC interview with Joseph Wong one of the student leaders. Naturally blamed everything on the police but failed to accept violence also coming from protesters.

    Joshua Wong.

  103. 1735099

    You threatening me boy.

    Not you specifically – anyone who imputes my reputation using lies.
    The statue is pretty clear, and I have the dosh to pursue it if needs be.
    My kids wouldn’t mind me spending their inheritance on a legal frolic.
    There have been some interesting civil awards to strata managers and school principals recently.

  104. Eyrie

    First rule to deal with trolls

    1. Ignore the troll.

  105. Gab

    Yes, folks, Trump is still the President. Yay!

  106. mh

    Not you specifically – anyone who imputes my reputation using lies.
    The statue is pretty clear, and I have the dosh to pursue it if needs be.
    My kids wouldn’t mind me spending their inheritance on a legal frolic.
    There have been some interesting civil awards to strata managers and school principals recently.

    Fuck off Bob you absolute tool.

  107. Eyrie

    So let’s see, the US (GPS), China (Beidou), India (IRNSS) and Russia (GLONASS) all manage to run a Navigation satellite system each. The Euroweenies have GALILEO.
    https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/11/08/galileo_satellites_outage/

  108. Eyrie

    The punchline:
    In short, Galileo is a classic European venture: a great idea with talented people that has turned into a bureaucratic mess in which no one wants to take the blame for problems caused by unnecessary organizational complexity. ®

  109. stop feeding the troll.

    RF quotes Jo Nova at quadrant:
    The cheapest way to prevent man-made global warming is stop the BOM altering the data.”

    joannenova.com.au

    A most quotable quote.

    Is CO2 is responsible for the warming BoM f1ddling the data?

    The warmies are childish. Some f1ddle the temp data, some successfully hide/bury the early 19th century CO2 measurements (400+ ppm) and various Manns try to fudge a correlation.

    Seriously silly childlike behaviour. The cost to society is immeasurable. The data f1ddlers need to be discouraged.

  110. feelthebern

    Any poster who departs from the orthodoxy here is abused, smeared and vilified.

    What the fuck does this mean?
    There are non stop arguments here about almost everything.
    Maybe because you’re such a statist you can’t comprehend anything outside the group-think that you’re part of.
    The Cat is many things, but orthodox it is not.

  111. Tom

    The data f1ddlers need to be discouraged.

    No. They need to be charged with fraud and, if found guilty, convicted.

  112. Mark M

    40 years of failure …

    ” … (Prince) Charles told the group: “If I may say, you might not know but I’ve been trying – I don’t know, for the last 35 to 40 years – to encourage corporate, social and environmental responsibility and it’s been a bit of an uphill struggle.”

    As he flies from England to Tokyo to India to New Zealand and the Solomon Islands, Charles complains that he can’t convince people to behave as it there’s a climate crisis.
    -h/t: tom nelson @tan123

  113. Mark M

    Oops- missing link:
    Prince Charles reveals struggle to get companies to tackle [global warming]
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/prince-charles-reveals-struggle-companies-20883264

  114. feelthebern

    You’ve posted enough statements here to make yourself vulnerable to civil action, given that my identity is available to anyone who knows how to use the nominal roll.

    Name one thing he’s said.
    You are the biggest pussy ever to post at this place.
    You’re a troll.
    But unlike some of the quality trolls this place has seen, you get a little hot under the collar.

  115. 1735099

    “Danger close”, as a term, was used in my unit in reference to artillery. I never heard it used around mortars.

    I have no idea how it was used in other units, nor do I care.
    The differing applications of terminology across units is not “falsehood”.
    Rewriting history is.
    One poster here insists that everyone in his unit was a volunteer, when the universality of this is a provable falsehood and is not challenged because he confirms limply to the orthodoxy.

    The term for a situation where there is a risk from support fire, and an assertion that all Nashos volunteered are very different. The first is a disagreement about terminology, the second a twisting of historical fact.
    I take delight in departing from that orthodoxy, something that creates wonderful discomfort in the compliant.

  116. cohenite

    Aha, the troll’s going litigious is it?

  117. Mater

    So what approach is Bob going to take on the ‘Danger Close’ issue?

    1. Shift the goalposts,
    2. Dogmatically argue a demonstratively false contention, or
    3. Just disappear until the subject changes.

  118. feelthebern

    I rolled the Ladbrokes ballsup return from the Hall/Gallen fight into Italy beating Bosnia this morning for the Euro2020 qualifiers.
    Italy was paying 2.05 versus the 3.75 for Bosnia.
    The game was in Sarajevo, but the 2.05 was too good.
    Italy wins 3-0.
    Yay.

  119. feelthebern

    I rolled the Ladbrokes b*llsup return from the Hall/Gallen fight into Italy beating Bosnia this morning for the Euro2020 qualifiers.
    Italy was paying 2.05 versus the 3.75 for Bosnia.
    The game was in Sarajevo, but the 2.05 was too good.
    Italy wins 3-0.
    Yay.

  120. feelthebern

    Aha, the troll’s going litigious is it?

    And all doxy too.
    It’s due to his cashew sized penis.

  121. No. They need to be charged with fraud and, if found guilty, convicted.

    Nah. Let’s do it Viktoristan style.

    Find them guilty, convict them, incarcerate them and then charge them with fraud.
    Ten years in the clink, even if they’re innocent.

    What say ye?

  122. cohenite

    It’s due to his cashew sized penis.

    It has a dick?!

  123. Bruce

    No Elle, No Elle?

    Is that a Christmas thing?

  124. 1735099

    So what approach is Bob going to take….

    A couple of veterans (and some others) disagree about the term used to describe a situation when fire is brought in close to friendlies.
    A couple of veterans disagree about whether or not national servicemen were volunteers in a war which killed about 200 of them and divided the nation.
    Mater earnestly believes that these two issues are of equal significance.
    That says a great deal about Mater and his grasp of his country’s history.

  125. Nick

    Doxy and litigious ? He’s only following Lizzies’ lead I’m afraid.

  126. feelthebern

    It has a dick?!

    8th Cock in his mouth hasn’t been around since I outed his & numbers penis touching.

  127. Mater

    So it’s a mixture of 2 and 3. More 2, I’d say.

    Bob,
    Call for fire was an Army wide procedure. You’re unit would have done the same as everyone else, and that includes Mortars.
    You were wrong. If you don’t know something with a certain degree of certainty, how about you don’t get on here and spruik bullshit?
    I know it’s hard for you when it comes to military stuff because you see yourself as the font of all knowledge in this field, but you’re not.
    Relatively speaking, you were in the Army from breakfast to just before mornos. And for most of that time, you were a baggy arse who had to be dragged around by the nose.
    I know you think any person who is right of centre is intellectually inferior, but if you gave your fingers a rest and open your eyes, you might learn something from this blog for people who have wide and extensive experience in a broad range of fields. Primary sources, you might say.

  128. bespoke

    Yea Nope, Numberwang starts every day with a diligently antagonist tone then claims to be the victim. Proof of his fixation. Go for it 1735099 I think you are mentally disturbed or a flat out lying. You have also claimed site has helped with book sales you can’t have it both ways. And your reputation is shit all by your own doing.

  129. jo

    anyone who imputes my reputation using lies.

    Spud you only have a reputation for being a total tosser. Never read anything you write, only others comments. A narcissist of the highest order.

  130. 1735099

    Mater – look at the post above yours.
    I’ll take your advice about the sterling quality and reliability of posters here when this element disappears.
    Until then, this blog remains completely disreputable.

  131. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The world’s first VAGINA museum will open in London tomorrow – and guests can buy anatomical crocheted souvenirs and postcards

    The Vagina Museum, in Camden Market, London, will open on November 16
    Exhibition is titled ‘Muff Busters: Vagina Myths and How To Fight Them’
    Founder Florence Schechter purchased building following a public fundraiser

    Daily Mail. No comment.

  132. Mater

    Until then, this blog remains completely disreputable.

    Fine. If that is your assessment, don’t come on here expecting/demanding an apology.

  133. 8th Dan

    It refers to artillery, rather than mortars.

    No, it doesn’t. It refers to either or both and more. Surely you used it when you were calling in those B52s while hunkered down next to peace-loving Afghan farmers?

  134. egg_

    Now the finger-wagging is taking place among climate affirmers on the subject of personal responsibility for combating [global warming].

    It’s inevitable that zealotry in the form of total fossil fuel abandonment, followed by shaming, in much the same way as the vegans have done, would occur.

    It will be popcorn time though. I don’t know any rabid climate advocate who makes any climate driven adjustments to their lifestyle at all. Far the opposite.

    The biggest climate zealot at work drove a 6 cyl Land Rover, of course – and his buddy went from a hatchback to an SUV, of course.
    /Hypocrites

  135. Mater

    8th Dan
    #3213076, posted on November 16, 2019 at 9:55 am

    It refers to artillery, rather than mortars.

    No, it doesn’t. It refers to either or both and more. Surely you used it when you were calling in those B52s while hunkered down next to peace-loving Afghan farmers?

    That was Bob’s post, you fucking idiot.

    But thanks for reinforcing my point!

  136. mh

    Prince Andrew interview: I let the side down by staying with Jeffrey Epstein

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-50431163

    Epstein didn’t kill himself.

  137. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    But thanks for reinforcing my point!

    Rather a spectacular “own goal” there, Grogs. Well done.

  138. stackja

    Man charged for lighting NSW bushfire to protect cannabis crop
    http://www.smh.com.au › Politics › NSW › Bushfires
    3 hours ago – Police allege the man lit the fire, which has grown out of control and burnt more than 3500 hectares, to protect his cannabis crop near Ebor, …

    A 51-year-old man has been charged for allegedly lighting a blaze that threatened homes in northern NSW.

    Police allege the man lit the fire, which has grown out of control and burnt more than 3500 hectares, to protect his cannabis crop near Ebor, east of Armidale in the Northern Tablelands on Thursday.

  139. mh

    Assad is getting into it now

    Syrian President Bashar Assad, in an interview with Russian state TV Thursday, waded into the bizarre viral craze by offering his own take on what happened to the convicted pedophile inside his Manhattan federal prison cell in August.

    “American billionaire Jeffrey Epstein was killed several weeks ago, they said he had committed suicide in jail,” Newsweek quoted Assad as telling the TASS Russian News Agency. “However, he was killed because he knew a lot of vital secrets connected with very important people in the British and American regimes, and possibly in other countries as well.”…

    https://www.foxnews.com/world/syria-assad-jeffrey-esptain-killed-speculation

  140. egg_

    As he flies from England to Tokyo to India to New Zealand and the Solomon Islands, Charles complains that he can’t convince people to behave as it there’s a climate crisis.

    Charles should take the slow boat with Greta?

  141. mh

    Assad is getting into it now

    Syrian President Bashar Assad, in an interview with Russian state TV Thursday, waded into the bizarre viral craze by offering his own take on what happened to the convicted ped ophile inside his Manhattan federal prison cell in August.

    “American billionaire Jeffrey Epstein was killed several weeks ago, they said he had committed suicide in jail,” Newsweek quoted Assad as telling the TASS Russian News Agency. “However, he was killed because he knew a lot of vital secrets connected with very important people in the British and American regimes, and possibly in other countries as well.”…

    https://www.foxnews.com/world/syria-assad-jeffrey-esptain-killed-speculation

  142. Shy Ted

    1735099 #3213041, posted on November 16, 2019 at 9:11 am
    You threatening me boy.
    Not you specifically – anyone who imputes my reputation using lies.
    The statue is pretty clear, and I have the dosh to pursue it if needs be.

    Nambers, the word is “statute” not statue. This is a clear statue. It’s a lady, in case you were confused.

  143. egg_

    Prince Andrew interview: I let the side down by staying with Jeffrey Epstein

    What about riding the Lolita Express, Randy Andy?

  144. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Nambers, the word is “statute” not statue. This is a clear statue. It’s a lady, in case you were confused.

    Well said.

  145. feelthebern

    If you look Ladbrokes boxing page, they have draw as one of the three main outcomes on all bouts.
    No idea why they didn’t have that for Hall/Gallen.

  146. stackja

    The Wollemi Pine was locked up to protect it. I have not heard if the Wollemi Pine has survived the fire?

  147. Juan

    Can Trump pardon Roger Stone?

    Yes. Roger Stone has been convicted of federal crimes which fall within the President’s Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment..

    The only possible complication could be Justice Department rules requiring 5 years to have passed from the date of sentencing or, if incarcerated, release from prison; but the Department’s own advice is its rules do not restrict the authority granted to the President under Article II, Section 2 of the Constitution.

  148. 8th Dan

    I’ll try not to split hairs, on account of the delicate nature of your wrists. Are you now going to claim that you were calling in mortar rounds from those B52s?

  149. Roger

    LOL:

    KKK stupidly attempts to capitalise on Boochani’s arrival in NZ by issuing a statement in support.

    Boochani slaps her down.

    The woman has no political nous at all.

  150. MatrixTransform

    Numpty’s Big Adventure … true tales from Inventnam again

    What sort of sorry sad fuck flashes a forum his dick every morning?

  151. Shy Ted

    Inventnam
    Very clever, MT.

  152. feelthebern

    You’re unit would have done the same as everyone else, and that includes Mortars.

    numbers unit was special.

  153. will

    sfw
    #3212981, posted on November 16, 2019 at 7:12 am
    I think everyone is getting a little confused over the difference between backburning and if and when it can be used and fuel load reduction burning.

    Guilty your Honour.

    The purpose is different but the technique is the same. You are clearing scrub with fire.

  154. feelthebern

    The statue is pretty clear, and I have the dosh to pursue it if needs be.

    LOL.
    You have 100k to blow before you see the inside of a courtroom?
    I doubt that.
    But then again, you did do your time as a pro bono advocate (read, giving people advice when they couldn’t avoid you quick enough).

  155. egg_

    What sort of sorry sad fuck flashes a forum his dick every morning?

    Nam Wang & 8th Wang – the dynamic duo.

  156. MatrixTransform

    Not you specifically – anyone who imputes my reputation using lies.

    Jaysus yr a retard Numpty.

  157. feelthebern

    numbers, when will you tell your family about your second family in Vietnam?

  158. Tekweni

    Are then any others who just scroll past the troll who appears to be the only person in the world who has done military service? For many, myself included, have served but who cares?

  159. MatrixTransform

    Sue me … send some wallopers with guns and tasers….unleash the lawyer-griffons

    have a sook you silly old prick

  160. notafan

    Refugee author Behrouz Boochani has rejected a “shameful” attempt by Labor senator Kristina Keneally to congratulate him on departing Papua New Guinea.

    The awarding winning Kurdish-Iranian journalist described Senator Keneally’s statement as “shameful” and pointed out the Labor Party “exiled” him to offshore detention in 2013.

    Very lol Roger

    also true

  161. Roger

    Well, that went well:

    Top Democrats privately concede they’re losing the impeachment battle.

    They’re expending a huge amount of political capital on a product Americans aren’t buying 12 months out from a presidential election.

  162. feelthebern

    Crikey.
    Just renewed my ATC membership.
    It gets cheaper every year due to the discount for how long you’ve been a member.
    No wonder they’ve adding a 500 buck joining fee for new members.
    Otherwise the membership fee pool would continue to shrink.

  163. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘The statue is pretty clear, and I have the dosh to pursue it if needs be.
    My kids wouldn’t mind me spending their inheritance on a legal frolic.’

    1. You must be a billionaire if you’ve paid $15,000,000 in tax and still have ‘the dosh’.

    2. You are a lying coward who can’t get past the fact that you weren’t as smart as you thought you were 50 years ago, and you’ve used the George Costanza model ever since – ie, if you believe a lie it becomes the truth.

    3. You are a pompous hypocrite who uses four months’ worth of being unwillingly dragged around the jungle, making yourself a hindrance at every turn (remember – this is your story, as you told it ) to then become a self-made model of the experience of every single soldier who served in Vietnam.

    3a. And when faced with ACTUAL ‘historical fact’ rather than YOUR ‘historical fact’ suddenly everyone else is a shill for the system and it’s you alone, waaaaaaaay up on your cross and cloaked in other people’s bravery.

    You are a coward who revels in the national service you tried so hard to avoid.

    I look forward to hearing from your legal team – which will no doubt consist of yourself, as an experienced pro bono advocate, and your daughter 8th Danielle, who really has to be applauded because she tries so hard to be on Daddy’s side.

  164. The data f1ddlers need to be discouraged.

    No. They need to be charged with fraud and, if found guilty, convicted.

    Question for the legalistas.

    Scene: a waminista says we’re all gunna fry by 2030 and makes money from this deception prior to 2030.

    Can they be charged (fraud, financial advantage by deception etc) in 2030?

    Is it necessary to prove that they knew what they were saying was false?
    Is f1ddling the data, proof that they knew?
    Can those who knowingly aid the deception be charged with anything?

  165. Roger

    ’tis hoped in some quarters that when Albo loses the next unloseable election the brains trust of the ALP will parachute KKK into a safe lower house seat and make her leader.

    What an excellent idea!

  166. Knuckle Dragger

    8th Danielle,

    The following is a list of every person in history who has used the term ‘danger close’ in relation to mortar fire.

    The End.

  167. Leigh Lowe

    ‘The statue is pretty clear, and I have the dosh to pursue it if needs be.
    My kids wouldn’t mind me spending their inheritance on a legal frolic.’

    Spud is going to sue a statue?

  168. Good to see people are still riffing the old “but it wasn’t real communism” line.

    Those faggy army recruitment ads weren’t lying when the had the new army being a leftwing ngo staffed by women handing out sandwiches.

    Yeah, sad really. C.L. was saying for years the regular army had become a paramilitary SES.

    One week later “actually it’s the liberal party fault for not back burning!!”

    That’s sort of true. This is why you don’t accept Green policies. We’ve had a Liberal government for over two terms now and it has repealed how much social justice, green left and redistributionist policies?

    …and yes hazard reduction. Much easier if you let people graze in state forests, take fallen timber from state forests and parks and nature reserves, allow native forestry once more allow property owners to clear their land.

  169. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Nick being his usual lying self about me upthread.
    Plus ca change there. What a turd of a man.

    Meanwhile, Oz weekend Magazine is an improvement on their usual offerings – interesting life-story articles on Natalie Joyce, Catherine McGregor and Tiger Woods and a nicely untutored feeling for poetry in a piece by songwriter Paul Kelly (lefty but we are not judging), whose epiphanies with Shakespeare at school are the best argument for never dropping the Bard from the curriculum. Natalie Joyce’s story brings home the struggle to rise out from under the heartbreak of divorce and Catherine McGregor’s fine intellect and raw honesty about home and family life in an older Australia explains why I like this individual who has emerged from a great deal of personal wreckage. Tiger, well, I can’t say much about golf (see ‘On Becoming Elizabeth’, lol) but celebrity was tough on a young black man who got too few hugs and guidance as a kid on his way to wealth and fam

  170. “Roger Stone guilty of lying to Congress”

    Ah yes, Congress is known for being moral and honest.

    Interesting how Eshoo and Feinstein conspired and fabricated the Blasey-Ford allegations and nothing happened to them – despite committing a crime.

  171. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Typo – fame

    Pecking this out on my phone

  172. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘anyone who imputes my reputation’

    Imputation, according to the ATO:

    ‘imputation is the process of replacing missing data with substituted values.’

    Presented without further comment.

  173. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    But then again, you did do your time as a pro bono advocate (read, giving people advice when they couldn’t avoid you quick enough).

    I do hope Numbers Ho is suitably accredited to give “pro bono” advice – “pro bono” advocates, giving “duff gen” have been sued before.

  174. OldOzzie

    Zyconoclast
    #3212899, posted on November 16, 2019 at 12:03 am
    Slow NBN!!!

    Singapore Apt

    SGD $39 per month unlimited downloads

    Download Speed – 423.0Mbps Upload Speed 467.3 Mbps

    NBN restricted to HFC Maximun 100Mbps/40 Mbps

    Current OKLA Speed Test of NBN Download
    Download 92.2 Mbps Upload 38.2 Mbps

    Australia a Third World Country

    Rather than wasting $51 Billion on NBN

    why not use part of the

    The Australian Government is investing a record $100 billion towards transport infrastructure across Australia over the next decade.

    and invest USD $3 Billion in

    Bill Gates’ Nuclear Reactor Hits a Roadblock

    His company, TerraPower, is working on new technologies to revolutionize nuclear power. One of them is a traveling wave reactor (TWR). A TWR doesn’t rely exclusively on enriched uranium, which is expensive to acquire and the waste is problematic to store with a half-life of almost 4.5 billion years. Rather, TWR initiates the reaction with enriched uranium then switches to depleted uranium, the waste left over from uranium enrichment. A TWR could run on depleted uranium for decades.

    Rather than cooling the reactor with water, a TWR uses liquid sodium as a coolant. The reactor can therefore operate at a lower temperature than conventional reactors and is less vulnerable to a Chernobyl-type accident.

    One major problem with a TWR power plant is the price. It will cost about $3 billion to build a demonstration reactor. Even Bill Gates isn’t rich enough to fund it himself. TerraPower had signed a promising agreement with China to build a demonstration reactor, but the project has been shuttered due to China-U.S. trade tensions. The company is now lobbying Congress for a public-private partnership to fund the reactor.

  175. cohenite

    MPs Andrew Hastie and James Paterson banned from China
    Kieran Gair The Australian November 16, 2019

    Beijing has banned two outspoken Australian politicians from travelling to the country amid signs diplomatic tensions between the Morrison government and the leadership of the Chinese Communist Party are continuing to escalate. Policy think tank China Matters has been ordered to cancel an invitation to Liberal MP Andrew Hastie, the chairman of the parliamentary intelligence and security committee, and party colleague James Paterson to join a study group that was bound for Beijing in December.
    The snub, revealed in a press release, suggests Beijing will no longer tolerate potshots from Australian politicians aimed at highlighting the Communist Party’s repressive regime and long list of human rights abuses.
    “At this time, Mr Hastie and Senator Paterson are not welcome on a China Matters study tour to Beijing,” China Matters chief executive Alistair Nicholas said in a statement.
    “We regret the decision of the government of the People’s ­Republic of China … the third China Matters study tour, planned for 9-11 December, has been postponed.”
    Mr Hastie and Senator Paterson in a joint statement said their “frankness about the Chinese Communist Party” was ­behind the diplomatic snub.
    “We had looked forward to learning from the Chinese people about their culture, history and perspective during this visit,’’ they said. “We are particularly dis­appointed that the apparent reason why we are not welcome in China at this time is our frankness about the Chinese Communist Party.
    “Despite this, we will always speak out in defence of Australia’s values, sovereignty and national interest. We look forward to a time when the Chinese government ­realises it has nothing to fear from honest discussion and the free ­exchange of ideas.”
    Mr Hastie made international headlines in August when he compared the rise of China to that of Nazi Germany in a column for Nine newspapers.
    He labelled the West’s belief that economic liberalisation would lead to China’s democratisation as “our Maginot line” — in reference to the concrete fortifi­cations built by the French during World War II in an attempt to stop Germany from invading.
    “It (the belief China would be democratised) would keep us safe, just as the French believed their series of steel and concrete forts would guard them against the German advance in 1940. But their thinking failed catastroph­ically,” Mr Hastie wrote….

    All chink investment and migration to this country should be suspended immediately.

  176. Leigh Lowe

    ‘anyone who imputes my reputation’

    And this from the one who was responsible for (allegedly) educating spastics.
    Fark!

  177. ‘The statue is pretty clear, and I have the dosh to pursue it if needs be.
    My kids wouldn’t mind me spending their inheritance on a legal frolic.’

    People with glass models of themselves as legislation should not pick on other people’s spelling and grammar.

    Besides.

    I wanna know just how far away one can hear a Mk 82 500 lb bomb explode through thick jungle and over several river valleys and mountainous watershed ridges.

    Oh say can you hear
    The bombs exploding
    100 clicks away
    over in Cam bod ia

  178. Leigh Lowe

    ‘anyone who imputes my reputation’

    Can you be more pacific?

  179. feelthebern

    Knuckle Dragger
    #3213116, posted on November 16, 2019 at 10:45 am

    Factcheck: True.

  180. Nukes, 5G and decent roads & rail.

    Some things a 3rd world penal colony can aspire to be as a 2nd world dominion.

  181. Roger

    Walker was taken into care but struggled to adjust to the changing circumstances. “He was running all the time. He was running all his life, for his life,” says Louanna Williams, a heartbroken aunt.

    And we’ve just heard from an indigenous academic that indigenous kids should not be adopted into white families but remain in loveless state “care” because culture.

    The damage the Left has inflicted on indigenous people in recent decades is unfathomable.

  182. johanna

    Eyrie
    #3213039, posted on November 16, 2019 at 9:11 am

    Isn’t that Yovanovitch women the FORMER ambassador? Why does the nameplate say Ambassador?

    It’s an American thing. I think it has something to do with them never having had a monarchy or hereditary aristocracy since they cut loose from England.

    Hence, all former Presidents are still called ‘President’ and Shrillary is ‘Secretary’ (of State) Clinton.

    It’s a revolting custom, but there it is.

  183. Liability Boob does not except apologies once proceedings begin.

    He’s not a motel loogieant.

  184. feelthebern

    And this from the one who was responsible for (allegedly) educating spastics.

    I blame numbers for all QLD retards who can’t spell.
    Maybe they wouldn’t be called retards if numbers taught them better.
    Class action pending.

  185. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Oh say can you hear
    The bombs exploding
    100 clicks away
    over in Cam bod ia

    Bombs dropped on North Vietnamese supply dumps and bases, established in Cambodia, in clear violation of Cambodian neutrality.

  186. OldOzzie

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #3212906, posted on November 16, 2019 at 12:10 am

    The Dambusters Raid – Time-Lapse

    Zulu,

    thanks for that – enjoyed – had previously purchased on Google Play 1954 Dam Busters Movie which looks good on Big Screen

  187. San Salvador is a dirty, dirty place and the Vietnamese-Cambodian border region is flat, desolate and great for acoustics.

  188. Leigh Lowe

    This could set a legal president.

  189. cohenite

    His company, TerraPower, is working on new technologies to revolutionize nuclear power. One of them is a traveling wave reactor (TWR). A TWR doesn’t rely exclusively on enriched uranium, which is expensive to acquire and the waste is problematic to store with a half-life of almost 4.5 billion years. Rather, TWR initiates the reaction with enriched uranium then switches to depleted uranium, the waste left over from uranium enrichment. A TWR could run on depleted uranium for decades.

    That’s how Thorium works – using depleted uranium. The frogs have been using 2 stage nuke power, which used the enriched uranium from the first stage of fission for the 2nd stage for ever.

  190. Were Liability Boob’s (code name: Gomer) students spastics before he taught them?

  191. Leigh Lowe

    Class action pending.

    Sea you in caught.
    Butt bee worned.
    I will have a team of quid pro bono baristas at my dispersal.

  192. Boambee John

    ‘anyone who imputes my reputation’

    It is sometimes hard to comprehend what the pedanty pedantic pedant is trying to say, but in this case I suspect that it meant “impugns”.

    Presumably as in the Latin motto (the pedant went to a Catholic boarding school, so should have at least a basic grasp of Latin) “Nemo me impune lacessit”.

  193. cohenite

    Will the troll be proceeding ex party?

  194. 1735099

    I wanna know just how far away one can hear a Mk 82 500 lb bomb explode through thick jungle and over several river valleys and mountainous watershed ridges.

    Well, there was an explosion on April 16–17, 1947, in Texas City, Texas which was heard as far as 240 km away. I know what I heard. You don’t.

  195. feelthebern

    Regarding 5G.
    Macquarie Bank released a report this week with regards to 5G in non-China Asia.
    It was a compilation of data already known, so it wasn’t anything new to me.
    But the key takeaway that fibre rollouts in the region have stopped.
    & here we are in Australia, continuing this stupid NBN roll out.
    Obviously, Macq might have a vested interest in implying that the NBN has limited value (ie, maybe buying the thing & the real estate, the ducts) but it does demonstrate how fucking dangerous a government can be with zero pushback from a compliant media, as we saw with the whole NBN brain fart.

  196. OldOzzie

    cohenite
    #3213144, posted on November 16, 2019 at 11:00 am

    That’s how Thorium works – using depleted uranium. The frogs have been using 2 stage nuke power, which used the enriched uranium from the first stage of fission for the 2nd stage for ever.

    Cohenite,

    Watched the Netflix Series with my son in Singapore – 3rd in series was about TWR

    Inside Bill’s Brain: Decoding Bill Gates

    Biographical Documentaries

    Take a trip inside the mind of Bill Gates as the billionaire opens up about those who influenced him and the audacious goals he’s still pursuing.

    Starring:Bill Gates
    Creators:Davis Guggenheim

    Worth watching

  197. Leigh Lowe

    Not only can Radar O’Really hear kabooms from 200 kms away, but he can pinpoint the exact location of the kabooms.
    I tink it ‘mazing.

  198. April 16–17, 1947, in Texas City, Texas

    Well hey I can use google as well – that was 2,200 tonnes of ammonium nitrate exploding you twit.

  199. Knuckle Dragger

    Back to regular programming.

    Des at 8.08 am; yes, Rolfe is the ‘scion’ of a wealthy Canberra family. I have a few issues with terminology which may or may not be deliberate. Not with your use of the term but the NT News’ use.

    The other day a young semi-literate lass from the rag up here by the name of Hayley Sorenson started a piece with [paraphrased, the words in question are there] ‘Accused murderer Zachary Rolfe’, ‘scion of a wealthy Canberra family’ and ‘returned to his home town of Canberra’.

    First, Rolfe is an alleged murderer, not an accused murderer, regardless of whether he’s been charged. He’s not been through the committal process yet. [By the way, LL overnight is right – the quickest granting of a bail application after a murder charge since forever. Why, it’s almost as though it was preordained.]

    Second, his home town is Alice Springs, not Canberra. Third, the clear inference of ‘scion of a wealthy Canberra family’ clearly implies a layabout in a smoking jacket on a chaise, gleefully dependent on family cash.

    Rolfe is ex 1RAR, with at least one tour of Afghanistan under his belt. Then he joined the cops and CHOSE Alice, which is a bastard of a joint for someone new to the trade, experienced in other areas or not. Rumour has it he’s bright and a very hard worker, willing to go into the deepest shitfights available.

    Sorenson’s piece clearly seeks to widen the divide between whitey and the blecks by deliberately painting Rolfe as right this minute reclining with a sherry, regaling Uncle Winston McWhirry-Spitoon with tales of derring-do apropos of the natives in the colonies, and waiting for the Cadbury heiress to finish her tennis lesson so he can seduce her, the cad.

    In short, it’s a fucking disgrace.

  200. Bruce of Newcastle

    Rather than cooling the reactor with water, a TWR uses liquid sodium as a coolant.

    That is what caused the Jap breeder reactor to come a cropper. Materials of construction and leaks of the liquid sodium. Same general issue as I have said is the problem with the LFTR.

  201. Roger

    But the key takeaway that fibre rollouts in the region have stopped.
    & here we are in Australia, continuing this stupid NBN roll out.

    Sort of like investing in iceboxes when the refrigerator has just appeared on the market.

    Australia is a lucky country run mainly by second rate people who share its luck. It lives on other people’s ideas, and, although its ordinary people are adaptable, most of its leaders (in all fields) so lack curiosity about the events that surround them that they are often taken by surprise

    – Donald Horne

    It never cveases to be relevant because our leaders (in all fields) keep living up to it.

  202. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Sinc will usually delete likely defamatory and certainly unwarranted comments that are made about individual women here. As he says, he is an old-fashioned sort of guy in that way.

    Personally I have never threatened to sue anyone here about likely actionable comments. I prefer to answer any criticisms here. I am also a fan of anonymity and against doxing of anonymous commenters (I initiated a main thread on the topic of anonymous blogging here years ago).

    Presented without further comment.

  203. feelthebern

    Well hey I can use google as well

    Hey, google & wikipedia is what he’s relying on for his thesis.

  204. cohenite

    OldOzzie
    #3213154, posted on November 16, 2019 at 11:08 am

    I have mixed feelings about gates; club of rome crap while at the same time advocating nuclear which separates the less crazed alarmists from the full blown nutters who believe wind turbines will save the world. Hanson, coal trains of death, shares gates’ view about nuclear.

  205. feelthebern

    The only place fibre rollouts can have any commercial value is underwater cables between land masses.
    & that’s only because there isn’t enough reliable space/spectrum via satellites for the foreseeable future.

  206. Des Deskperson

    ‘ yes, Rolfe is the ‘scion’ of a wealthy Canberra family. I have a few issues with terminology which may or may not be deliberate. Not with your use of the term but the NT News’ use.’

    I only referred to his family to make the point that their businesses here in Canberra could be targeted or vandalised – reprehensibly as well as stupidly – by local SJWs. I agree that ‘scion’ can be seen as a pejorative term. I also agree that the term ‘wealthy’ in my post wasn’t necessary to make my point.

  207. OldOzzie

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #3213158, posted on November 16, 2019 at 11:12 am
    Rather than cooling the reactor with water, a TWR uses liquid sodium as a coolant.

    That is what caused the Jap breeder reactor to come a cropper. Materials of construction and leaks of the liquid sodium. Same general issue as I have said is the problem with the LFTR.

    BON

    Further on that, as the article states

    Rather than cooling the reactor with water, a TWR uses liquid sodium as a coolant. The reactor can therefore operate at a lower temperature than conventional reactors and is less vulnerable to a Chernobyl-type accident.

    TerraPower is also developing a molten chloride fast reactor, which uses molten salt as a coolant and as the fuel medium, giving it the potential to significantly boost efficiency.

    At TerraPower’s state-of-the-art Bellevue lab, engineers put sophisticated computer models of the company’s technologies through real-world tests without having to use actual radioactive fuel. Powerful cutting-edge computers process the data at a complexity and speed previously unheard of in the nuclear industry.

    “The new thing is advanced physics, enabled by modern computing power that was really only available in the last 10 to 15 years,” said Chris Levesque, TerraPower president and CEO.

    As the Netflix series on Bill Gates said when discussing Nuclear Plants – existing Nuclear Plants were designed in the Slide Rule era

  208. feelthebern

    Idea.
    Build nuclear reactor outside of Dubbo.
    Give all users in a 100km radius free electricity for the first 10 years of operation.
    See how quickly the punters get on board.
    Keep in mind, protesting in Dubbo for years isn’t that appealing to anyone.

  209. Nick

    Nick being his usual lying self about me upthread.
    Plus ca change there. What a turd of a man.

    Wrong again.
    Calli questioned you only the other day as to why you would try to dox IT
    You inferred 5 times that of a post of mine was actionable.

    It’s all here.

  210. OldOzzie

    cohenite
    #3213162, posted on November 16, 2019 at 11:15 am
    OldOzzie
    #3213154, posted on November 16, 2019 at 11:08 am

    I have mixed feelings about gates; club of rome crap while at the same time advocating nuclear which separates the less crazed alarmists from the full blown nutters who believe wind turbines will save the world. Hanson, coal trains of death, shares gates’ view about nuclear.

    Cohenite,

    same with me – mixed feelings – but as shown in the Netflix Series, I will give him this. that he and Melinda through the Gates Foundation, as outlined in the Netflix Series, are taking an effort to try and make the world a better place.

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