Open Forum: November 16, 2019

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  1. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Does doing the Bus Stop count as mincing? Because I’m awesome at it.

    I see your Bus Stop and will raise you my latest Hip Hop. Kanye is King.

  2. Shy Ted

    I too found Broome unlivable but had a great year racing my kite buggy up and down Cable Beach as one of few recreations. Huge tides and nasties in the water. Main memory is of young single mum on single parent’ pension emphasizing her (very distant) Aboriginal heritage and securing a $500k mortgage of which she was required to repay $5k over 25 years. Scheme called the Aboriginal Home Ownership Scheme. $500k doesn’t get you much in Broome but, hey, whitey gifts you $495k. Can’t remember anywhere else where the lurks and perks were so heavily accessed.

  3. Juan

    So what family should we choose as the Australian royal house?
    House of Packer?
    Keating?
    Oh oh oh!
    I have it!
    The house of Turnbull!

    We could do what European nations in search of a monarch have done for centuries … pick from the myriad mediatised German princes — such as the House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, descendants of which occupied the thrones of Belgium, Portugal, Bulgaria, and of course Mother England (and consequently Scotland) — but that wouldn’t be my preference.

    How about a unifying home grown figure, or rather their descendants?

    Maybe a House of Bradman; or one of RM Williams’ descendants? Those are just two suggestions, but they represent iconic threads in the Australian tapestry, representing things which unify us.

  4. Knuckle Dragger

    Bahahahaaa. The paywalled Hun:

    ‘Prince Andrew has reportedly told the Queen that his disastrous interview was a “great success”.

    ‘His friend revealed: “The Duke went to church with the Queen and was heard telling her it’s all been a great success”.

    ‘(He) said his aides did not “have the heart” to tell him how badly it had gone down.

    ‘They went on: “He’s told his friends and advisors he is delighted because he thought he had acquitted himself well.”

    ‘”He’s cock-a-hoop. He seriously believes he’s pulled off a master triumph. It’s astonishing.”‘

  5. Mater

    Colebatch is entitled to his own history, but not his own facts.

    Such a clever take on the words of Daniel Patrick Moynihan.

  6. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    They all have to start off some time.

    OK. On behalf of my family I’ll accept by birthright Queen Lizzie the Third of Old Wales (which was the ancient Britons and the very last part of the old Roman Empire to fall when taken by Edward 1 in 1283) and Lizzie the First of Australia. You can do that, have two different numbers. King James did that about Scotland and England after the Union. You can also choose your own aspirational name, as I did, long ago, as historically recorded textually in ‘On Becoming Elizabeth’. There’s gravitas there. 🙂

    Plus my family is mad enough to count as Royal.

  7. Leigh Lowe

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    #3215591, posted on November 19, 2019 at 10:32 am

    … KD is a mincing homo leprous vegan who has never sold a hot dog in his life,

    Is this true Lizzie?
    If so, I am shocked and disappointed.

  8. Juan

    Corbyn would be happy to sack the monarchy and put the EU in their place.

    I think leftists would be very content with any of a King Charles III, a King William V, or a Henry (Harry), Prince Regent for a King George VII in his minority.

    If fact, I’ve long thought the monarchy’s staunchest defenders — such as Alan Jones and Professor David Flint — will rapidly morph into its most ardent critics as soon as the new ‘King of Australia’ starts on one of his ecological pet issues.

  9. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    The Duraks would be my choice. A great story of pioneering, economic development and a clan.

    They’ve already made the claim. Kings in Grass Castles.

  10. notafan

    Maybe a House of Bradman; or one of RM Williams’ descendants? Those are just two suggestions, but they represent iconic threads in the Australian tapestry, representing things which unify us.

    just no

    incidentally nothing unifying about Bigot Bradman

  11. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Is this true Lizzie?
    If so, I am shocked and disappointed.

    I know, Leigh. It’s a shock, isn’t it?

    Even worse, tell a big lie, make it big enough, and keep telling it, and do you know what?
    People will start believing it.
    Can’t remember who said that, but it wasn’t Mother Theresa.

  12. stackja

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
    #3215624, posted on November 19, 2019 at 11:08 am

    Sid Kidman or James Tyson?

  13. Australian royalty and republican presidents would be treated equally by the AHG and TOA*.

    AHG – Australian Headsman Guild
    TOA – Tumbril Operators Association.

    No noose is good noose.

    h/t Mel Brooks

  14. Cassie of Sydney

    I remember Tony Robinson (yes…he’s a lefty but rather entertaining) about fifteen years ago did a marvelous documentary on “The Real King of England”…..being…..

    “The programme based its thesis on the centuries-old claim that Edward IV was illegitimate, born to Cecily, Duchess of York, by an English archer (surnamed Blaybourne by some) while her husband, Richard Plantagenet, 3rd Duke of York, was fighting elsewhere in France. The legitimacy of Edward IV was the subject of speculation at the time, and a document in Rouen Cathedral is presented by Dr Michael Jones as indicating that Richard and Cecily were about 100 miles (160 km) apart during the five-week period when Edward’s conception must have occurred (assuming that the pregnancy went to a normal term). A number of historians have since challenged the conclusions reached by the programme.

    If Edward were indeed illegitimate, then he and his descendants would have had no valid claim to the throne, so the programme suggests that the ‘real’ monarchs were the heirs of his legitimate brother George, Duke of Clarence. At the time, this line was represented by The 14th Earl of Loudoun (who usually styled himself simply as Michael Hastings), who had emigrated to Australia in 1960, married, fathered five children, and lived in Jerilderie, New South Wales, until his death in June 2012. He would be succeeded in this theoretical pretendership by his son Simon Abney-Hastings, 15th Earl of Loudoun.”

    So there we have it….our very own Aussie Plantagenet royal family…living in rural NSW. Michael Hastings has passed away but his son, Simon, is alive and well.

    I like the idea of a Plantagenet King….good to rid ourselves of the Germans.

  15. RobK

    My class and good fucking manners will win us many friends.
    Will this be televised?

  16. struth

    The royalty you’d get in Australia would have to be a trans gay vegan cist female white abo with Climate Credentials that Tennis Australia accepts.

  17. stackja

    Juan
    #3215623, posted on November 19, 2019 at 11:07 am
    If fact, I’ve long thought the monarchy’s staunchest defenders — such as Alan Jones and Professor David Flint — will rapidly morph into its most ardent critics as soon as the new ‘King of Australia’ starts on one of his ecological pet issues.

    Australian constitutional monarchy doesn’t make anyone Queen or King as Gough found out.
    The people rule.

  18. Bruce of Newcastle

    On behalf of my family I’ll accept by birthright Queen Lizzie the Third of Old Wales

    You will need a puissant blade Queen Lizzie. And they’ve just found one!

    Bronze Age sword discovered in archaeological breakthrough but location remains a mystery

    Archaeologists had been excavating an area in the region of Rychnov nad Kneznou in north-east Bohemia, when they came across the sword. The sword has an ornamental engraving and a very sharp blade and was found alongside several rivets which were used to secure the sword handle to the blade. A bronze spear head from about the same period also featured.

    Although the region is well-known for its Bronze Age artefacts, it is still extremely rare to come across swords.

    Martina Bekova from the Rychnov museum said: “The bronze sword with its tongue handle is dated around 1200 BC, it belongs to the Lusatian culture.

    “The findings of this culture are numerous in East Bohemia, but this is not true of swords.”

    She added that only five prehistoric swords have been found in the Czech Republic over the last decade.

    And yes, if the photo is correct they found it in a lake. (I think that’s probably a different sword, but who cares.)

  19. Leigh Lowe

    Knuckle Dragger

    #3215617, posted on November 19, 2019 at 10:57 am

    Bahahahaaa. The paywalled Hun:

    ‘Prince Andrew has reportedly told the Queen that his disastrous interview was a “great success”.

    Yes.
    Watching it I thought, “Here is a bloke who has been surrounded by sycophants all his life telling him how witty, intelligent, insightful and urbane he is. He has been advised how to handle the interview but thought ‘Fuck it, I’m Randy Andy, war hero and clown Prince. I’ll just wing it.’ I have no doubt he will think it was an absolute winner.”

  20. stackja

    M 4.3 – 200km W of Broome, Australia
    2019-11-18 21:59:13 (UTC)18.251°S 120.364°E10.0 km depth

  21. Juan

    I remember Tony Robinson (yes…he’s a lefty but rather entertaining) about fifteen years ago did a marvelous documentary on “The Real King of England”…..being…..

    I’d argue that that William II, Duke of Normandy was a French usurper of the English crown. We should search for the rightful descendant by primogeniture of Edgar Ætheling and crown them as the rightful king! 😜

  22. Black Ball

    Good morning all.
    Remember this AFL fans? Arise King Scott!

  23. Arky

    We can work out by a process of elimination who should be the new Australian King:
    – No convict ancestry.
    – No gingers.
    – No South Australians.
    – Must have a proven ability to deal with Australians.
    – A majestic aquiline profile.
    – Proven ability to produce an heir who is not a drooling idiot.
    – No tatts.
    It’s bleeding obvious innit?
    I am your King. All hail me.

  24. Arky

    Arise, Sir Incoherent Rambler.

  25. areff

    Numbers links to a blog whose author assails Hal Colebatch on the strength of a “real” historian’s criticism. And who might that be?

    Mike Carlton!!!!!

    Numbers, the living proof that one can appear superficially human with nothing better than a ball of rancid smegma where a brain should be.

  26. Now that we are through with formalities, can we talk about a grant of lands and some peasants to till the fields paddocks.

  27. Juan

    Juan
    #3215623, posted on November 19, 2019 at 11:07 am
    If fact, I’ve long thought the monarchy’s staunchest defenders — such as Alan Jones and Professor David Flint — will rapidly morph into its most ardent critics as soon as the new ‘King of Australia’ starts on one of his ecological pet issues.

    Australian constitutional monarchy doesn’t make anyone Queen or King as Gough found out.

    The people rule.

    I meant a future King Charles or King William as King of Australia. You know, “Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, her heirs and successors, according to law”?

    Charles, especially, has foreshadowed as monarch he will use his position as a platform to highlight the environmental causes which are dear to his heart.

    We can only speculate on what a future King William V would do, but he does hold similar if not even more radical views on social and environmental issues.

  28. Des Deskperson

    ‘A search of delforce’s linkedin profile reveals a well credentialed academic with high level bureaucratic positions. Mummy was not a vestige but a high ranking official.’

    A ‘high ranking official’ in APS terms means a member of the Senior Executive Service, a Branch Head, a Division Head, or Head of an ‘Organisation’. These people are listed in the Government Directory.

    According to her Linkedin profile

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/julie-delforce-23494210a/?originalSubdomain=au

    Delforce is a ‘Senior Sector Specialist’. ‘Senior” in an internal agency context usually means an Executive Level 1. She has previously been a ‘Director’, which usually means a Section Head, or an EL2. Whether she has taken voluntary reduction or whether she has been moved sideways into some sort of specialist position isn’t clear, but she is not listed in the Government Directory and she is not a ‘high ranking official. ‘ She is middle management and appears to have been for a couple of decades.

    The APS used to be crawling with middle mangers with extensive academic credentials.

  29. Arky

    some peasants to till the fields paddocks.

    ..
    Take South Australia and you can have Monty and Wang and any libertarians you find skiving about trying to sell drugs and subvert immigration laws.

  30. Geriatric Mayfly

    Now that we are through with formalities, can we talk about a grant of lands

    And titles. One has to be able to strut amongst the peasants as they touch their forelocks. .

  31. stackja

    incoherent rambler
    #3215656, posted on November 19, 2019 at 11:35 am

    Thomas Jones and James Everard were granted 60 acres of a Sydney suburb.

  32. Black Ball

    Smegma. Under utilised word. And you owe me a new phone and shirt 😂

  33. Sire, South Australia will be a welcome addition to my holdings.
    Do you mind if I extend the nuclear bomb test area?

  34. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Mike Carlton!!!!!

    I’d rank Mike Carlton and Peter Fitzsimmonds equally as “historians.”

  35. Infidel Tiger

    The Monarchy is not a person, it is an institution. It has survived many awful people and will continue to do so long after Liz has gone.

  36. struth

    A KIWI AS KING!
    BE FUCKED.
    Who is this imposter?

    I am your true bloody King, Kink Struth the First.
    No kiwis allowed.
    You’ve got to be able to speak the language, for Gawd sake!
    Jeez , I go out for a slash and they’re trying to take over

  37. Maybe struth.
    What lands/estates/titles are on offer?

  38. Dr Faustus

    ‘Prince Andrew has reportedly told the Queen that his disastrous interview was a “great success”.

    Prince Sweaty has successfully lost the support of The Sun – a leading UK tabloid which normally runs a staunchly cringing ‘Gor bless you, Ma’am’ line on Royalty matters.

    The only popular way out now for Randy Andy, Prince of the Pork Sword, Duke of Bonking, Vice Admiral is in handcuffs, en route to a secret CIA rendition centre in Romania.
    Accompanied by the Benny Hill theme…

  39. stackja

    Juan
    #3215657, posted on November 19, 2019 at 11:37 am

    according to law

    Laws change.

  40. Arky

    And titles.

    ..
    In descending order:
    Duck.
    Herbert.
    Bloke.
    Driver of the mark three Zephyr.

  41. struth

    Tasmania……but I prefer the bidding process.

    I’ll start the bidding at 5 bucks.
    OK.
    Hey welllllllllllllalrightsiropenthegateandletemoutandwalkon boys………

  42. Arky

    Maybe struth.
    What lands/estates/titles are on offer?

    ..
    A rebellion? Already? Alright. I will throw in this perky consort too.

  43. areff

    The clear choice for king is Liam Picken, whose playing days have been cut tragically short.

    And these would be his peasant subjects

  44. old bloke

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
    #3215605, posted on November 19, 2019 at 10:43 am

    some Australian family

    Never. I have already suggested an ancient and venerable blend.
    There has to be a sense of historical attachment to a monarchy. Go Danish.

    There’s no need for the Danes, according to Tony Robinson, Britain’s real monarch already lives in Australia.

  45. Juan

    The Monarchy is not a person, it is an institution. It has survived many awful people and will continue to do so long after Liz has gone.

    Institutions still need friends, supporters, and defenders.

    Institutions are not immutable. They evolve, they change, and sometimes they even disappear.

    I can imagine Alan Jones training his sights on a King Charles III after His Majesty has given a speech in favour of action on climate change (this is quite likely to happen as it would be UK Governement policy as even Boris is all in on climate action.)

    The question is, could Jones discredit the monarch without discrediting the monarchy; and, as an unintended consequence, advancing the cause of an Australia Republic?

  46. Bruce of Newcastle

    We should search for the rightful descendant by primogeniture of Edgar Ætheling

    I suspect King Willy was quite careful to extirpate any of the previous line.
    Normans didn’t muck about.

  47. stackja

    Infidel Tiger
    #3215670, posted on November 19, 2019 at 11:45 am
    The Monarchy is not a person, it is an institution. It has survived many awful people and will continue to do so long after Liz has gone.

    Cromwell?

  48. Donna worry about Charles III
    Ollie Cromwell knew how to handle English monarchs who were named Charles.

  49. Juan

    I suspect King Willy was quite careful to extirpate any of the previous line.
    Normans didn’t muck about.

    If the ‘blood’ in royal blood matters, then I would take any descendant, including illegitimate offspring!

  50. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Yep. Swords in lakes are the go for the Arthurian swords. Interesting that this one is not broken, as votive offerings often were. Depends on what they were aiming for with the pleading, I guess. Best pic I’ve seen of swords was three swords found on the edge of an offshore island in the Western Isles, in the museum at Kilmartin, once a Neolithic and Bronze-Age sacred place, now a peat-bogged valley that still houses the rock of Dunadd, where anciently kings were crowned by placing their foot in a special rock-cut footprint (there’s one of those at Tintagel in Cornwall too, hence the association with Arthur’s legend too). None of these three swords at Kilmartin were broken and they were all fiercely dug into the beach in an appearance of ritually fending off something. This set me thinking about causeway’d islands and their salience anciently. Was it because they were exemplars of land that was nearly lost? Something to do with sea level rises after the ice? Control of landforms seems to have become a vital part of Neolithic religious practice. I have gathered a lot of material on that to write up.

    Excalibur, Arthur’s named sword (you always named your sword), was magically made by the Lady of the Lake, and returned to her as set out in Tennyson’s wonderful poem Morte d’Artur, flung back in by Bedevere, Arthur’s knight… ‘then quickly rose Sir Bedevere and ran ..’

    Then, one day in a special place I will reveal sometime I was watching a great bore race in from the sea under a glorious sunset. Looking west I could see a golden blade descending across the landscape focused into one stream of the sun’s setting rays through a cloud, and the image of a giant landscape sword glowed bright across that roiling sea. And there it was, over some rocks being flecked into white by the tide, the sword hilt ended, and a sword was being lifted full length from the ‘lake’ with the laced flecked white a piece of ‘white samite’ around it. Can you see it? I said to Hairy, and he could. A landscape origin in the north of England in a very special place, unlikely to be repeatable anywhere else, for a remarkable piece of mythology, very ancient I am sure, and aligning to the what archaeologist Francis Pryor has said about the magic of the first Bronze metalsmiths, drawing a golden molten bronze sword out of the stone of it’s mold: the sword from the stone, recapitulating the golden sword from the lake. In the very anciently used place where I saw this lake sword emerge from the setting sun in a particular aspect there are so many other possible origin elements for Arthurian legends, including local settlements of Sarmartian soldiers growing marihuana, that although speculative I must add them to my analysis.

  51. Bruce of Newcastle

    Cromwell?

    An occasional beheading is useful to keep their minds on the job. We haven’t had one for a while and the Windsor kids seem to be going feral.

    (Especially the one in his seventies. Important safety note for UK royals: never ever name your son Charles.)

  52. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    not it’s, but its. Possessive fail. It happens. 🙂

  53. Cromwell?

    I walked through an exhibition of portraits of Charles I, Cromwell and Charles cronies and spouses.
    Cromwell was the only one who didn’t look inbred.

  54. stackja

    NSW RFS:

    Watch and Act – Guyra Road, Ebor (Armidale LGA) 19/11/2019 11:57
    A bush fire is burning in the area of Guyra Road, Ebor. The fire is more than 13,000 hectares in size and is being controlled.

    Fire was started to protect cannabis plants.

  55. Tel

    I think leftists would be very content with any of a King Charles III, a King William V, or a Henry (Harry), Prince Regent for a King George VII in his minority.

    You underestimate the jealousy of the EU and their need to dominate.

  56. Dr Faustus

    We should search for the rightful descendant by primogeniture of Edgar Ætheling and crown them as the rightful king! 😜

    Fucking Saxon interloper.
    None of these German/French/Scandi johnny-come-lately’s. We need to go back beyond the Roman conquest to Cunobeline.

  57. cohenite

    areff
    #3215654, posted on November 19, 2019 at 11:35 am
    Numbers links to a blog whose author assails Hal Colebatch on the strength of a “real” historian’s criticism. And who might that be?
    Mike Carlton!!!!!
    Numbers, the living proof that one can appear superficially human with nothing better than a ball of rancid smegma where a brain should be.

    It linked to carlton; hahahaha. Carlton, the slime who put the cock into roach. The troll linked to carlton, FMD.

    I’ve listened to all the arguments about how to deal with the troll but really, every thread where the troll appears should have a contest for the most appropriate put-down of it. Anything which links to carlton as a source of anything is not fit for anything.

  58. calli

    Arky
    #3215650, posted on November 19, 2019 at 11:31 am
    We can work out by a process of elimination who should be the new Australian King:
    – No convict ancestry.
    – No gingers.
    – No South Australians.
    – Must have a proven ability to deal with Australians.
    – A majestic aquiline profile.
    – Proven ability to produce an heir who is not a drooling idiot.
    – No tatts.
    It’s bleeding obvious innit?

    The Beloved.

    And I shall be Queen calli.

  59. calli

    In a righteous society, Spicer’s poor little girl would be handed over to a kindly, normal mother to raise.

  60. And I shall be Queen calli.

    I thought that title has been snapped up by monty.

  61. Arky

    We need to go back beyond the Roman conquest to Cunobeline.

    ..
    No gingers!

  62. struth

    As suspected, I started the bidding too high for Tassie.

    Thou artist shall now taketh the bidding down to $2.20 as a starter…………….

    But how much do I hear for this very special unused map of Tassie…………………?
    Sit down Prince Andrew, sit down.

  63. cohenite

    And these would be his peasant subjects

    That line of magnificent women is from Bitter Rice and arguably the most glorious of them is Silvana Mangano. She’s dead but if her like were queen I’d be giving a bow.

  64. cohenite

    I thought that title has been snapped up by monty.

    Court jester.

  65. Dr Faustus

    No gingers!

    That would be the Saxon blow ins.
    Cunobeline would have been a swarthy, dark-haired dude.
    Made for the job.

  66. lotocoti

    good to rid ourselves of the Germans.

    By that argument, because the UK’s last Boche born monarch was in 1683, everyone here who hasn’t a touch of tar brush is a foreign interloper.

  67. Juan

    Donna worry about Charles III
    Ollie Cromwell knew how to handle English monarchs who were named Charles.

    The difference is if His Majesty’s advocacy for, say, environmental causes is in lock step with the policies of His Majesty’s Government.

    Even Tory Prime Ministers are enthusiastically in favour of climate action; so they would hardly remove a monarch (let alone behead him) who was giving voice to their government’s policy priorities.

    The problem for Australia is the Statute of Westminster 1931 gives our government some say in the monarchy but not to the extent the monarch’s public statements must not be inconsistent with Australian government policy. That’s an oversight which will invariably cause problems down the track.

    Just imagine if we had had a King William V during the same-sex marriage ‘plebiscite’ — a microphone is put in front of King William and Queen Catherine and someone asks “What do you have to say to your Australian subjects as they receive their survey forms in their mailboxes?”

    Before you answer that, please read this.

  68. calli

    Hmmm…King Malcolm Tumbrill.

    It has merit. One day in office, then the National Razor.

    It would make his successor…humble.

  69. Top Ender

    Prince Andy had a helicopter pilot’s ticket, if I recall rightly.

    Spot of cattle droving in the Top End for the next five years will see him get back his respectability.

    Fergie might come by for a visit with the ex. She looks like a girl who likes a beer.

  70. Tom

    Arky, when I was in Niuw Zilland as a yoof in the 1970s, the joke was that the NZ economy would collapse if all the Zephyrs were taken off the road.

  71. 2dogs

    We can only speculate on what a future King William V would do, but he does hold similar if not even more radical views on social and environmental issues.

    I am hopeful Queen Kate would keep him in check.

  72. struth

    I don’t wanna be King anymore.
    Can’t sell Tasmania.
    Can’t seem to get a decent tattoo-less , normal weight Harem.
    What’s the point?
    She’s all yours Arky.
    I’m going to be like a blackfella and go walkabout , Ab-dicate if you will.

  73. Leigh Lowe

    KD’s take on Dick Tracey Spicerack is on the money.
    Fading, ageing autocue reader needs to reinvent career as “serious j’ism ladee”.

  74. Can’t sell Tasmania.

    Late bid $1.50

    I figure I can mine the scallops, oysters and mussels for Cadmium, Mercury and Lead.

  75. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Juan, one of the main features of the Durack story, the great cattle drive across from Queensland into unknown territories in the Kimberley where they developed the top of Western Australia and became involved in WA politics, is missing from the account in your link. The whole tale is extremely well told, of course, in Mary Durack’s ‘Kings in Grass Castles’, and later ‘Sons in the Saddle’.

    Perpetua Durack, daughter of Elizabeth and niece of Mary (the author above) has just finished drawing up a clan genealogy and organized the recent get-together; a huge work for her, a lady of my own sort of years and a clan elder now. In their day, Elizabeth and Mary both worked to understand and assist the aboriginal people, who are an integral part of the Durack story too, some having married into the clan.

    Quite a good choice for Australian Royalty, imho, although there would be those who say not, wanting to interpret the past in the eyes of the present.

  76. Bruce of Newcastle

    Just imagine if we had had a King William V during the same-sex marriage ‘plebiscite’

    Arabic speaking Koran reading King Charles III might have something to say about it first.
    OTOH he seems to be able to hold several mutually incompatible concepts in his head, so maybe not.

  77. feelthebern

    The Monarchy is not a person, it is an institution. It has survived many awful people and will continue to do so long after Liz has gone.

    Keep bending the knee IT.

  78. calli

    Off to Iguazu tomorrow. Today I took the gondola up the Sugar Loaf and the tram up to Christ the Redeemer. Both spectacular.

    But the real eye opener for me was the cathedral. Round, cone-shaped and enormous, built in the 70’s. I was ready to dislike it, but came away an admirer. Like nothing I’ve ever seen before.

  79. Cassie of Sydney

    “Numbers, the living proof that one can appear superficially human with nothing better than a ball of rancid smegma where a brain should be.”

    Sublime.

  80. Leigh Lowe

    Pope Fonzie came from a country with a cathedral shaped like a dunce’s hat?
    Starting to make sense.

  81. Juan

    I don’t wanna be King anymore.
    Can’t sell Tasmania.

    What about conquering New Zealand and declaring yourself Emperor of Australasia? 😉

    Section 6 of the Australian Constitution allows for the accession of your future Trans-Tasman subjects, Your Imperial Majesty, and the Imperial Rugby Team would be unbeatable!

  82. calli

    Rio, LL.

    Da Fonze is an Argie.

  83. Top Ender

    Man hit by police car in Alice Springs

    17 MINUTES AGO NOVEMBER 19, 2019

    A 23-year-old Aboriginal man is understood to be in a critical condition in hospital after being hit by a Northern Territory police vehicle in Alice Springs.

    The incident, which happened late on Monday evening, comes just over a week after the police shooting death of 19-year-old Kumanjayi Walker sparked nationwide protests.

    A police spokeswoman said the Alice Springs officers had been responding to reports of an armed offender in the suburb of Larapinta.

    Other sources told The Australian the man had been seen attempting to rob a service station and that a bystander called the police.

    The man is believed to have fled as police approached and to have run out in front of an unmarked police car, but those details are yet to be confirmed.

    An NT Health Department spokeswoman said the injured man had been flown to Royal Adelaide Hospital.

    Police are expected to issue a statement shortly. Complete article from the Oz

  84. 2dogs

    Regarding this, there has long been a rule in Australia that one can identify as Aboriginal only if one is accepted as such by the community in which you live or have lived.

    Why shouldn’t this rule also apply to trans women?

  85. Leigh Lowe

    calli

    #3215730, posted on November 19, 2019 at 12:45 pm

    Rio, LL.

    Da Fonze is an Argie.

    Sigh.
    Another good story ruined by geography.

  86. struth

    What about conquering New Zealand and declaring yourself Emperor of Australasia?

    How, the army are all off having tranny operations.
    The navy are still painting their fingernails and the Air force has been grounded by CASA.

  87. calli

    ****trigger warning for vegan lurkers****

    Tonight I had dinner at an all-you-can-eat barbecue restaurant. I was served by attractive, rosy cheeked gaucho waiters with various types of meat on swords. Muchos meat. Hard to pick between the delicious filet mignon or a melting collop of tender brahmin hump.

    They also served skewered chook. And their hearts also on swords. The vegetarian meat.

    Anything green was a garnish.

  88. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I don’t wanna be King anymore.
    Can’t sell Tasmania.

    Tasmania should revert to its former role as a penal colony, along the lines of Devil’s Island.

  89. The Beer Whisperer

    mh
    #3215527, posted on November 19, 2019 at 9:33 am
    WATCH: TRUMP SUPPORTER BRAWLS WITH TWO LIBERALS IN LONG BEACH, CA

    I can’t watch. The liberals are hopelessly outnumbered. It would be a massacre.

  90. Bruce of Newcastle

    Looks like Kushner has been in Pompeo’s ear.

    Dan – Give a headline and a chunk of the text. I’d rather not follow a tinyurl to an unknown site without some idea about where it is and what it is about.

    Ivanka and Jared are lefties at heart, although the extreme hatred they have received from the Left has somewhat caused them to move more to the right in the last couple years. Which was a strategic error on the part of the MSM, but then they haven’t been thinking at all rationally for almost three years now.

  91. Leigh Lowe

    Northern Territory Police said the man was believed to be armed with a knife when he was struck on Nicker Crescent in Gillen.

    Quite so.

  92. 1735099

    They’re having a rethink after looking at the dodgy legality of what they’re doing.
    Good times.

  93. Dr Faustus

    In You Can’t Trust Polls Anymore, But… news:

    UK election polls: Conservative Party given 14-point lead over Labour in fresh survey

    A fresh survey from Survation, conducted from November 14 to 16, put the Conservative Party on 42 per cent and Labour on 28 per cent.

    A YouGov poll released yesterday put the Tories on 45 per cent, a 17-point lead over Labour in that survey.

    Under the UK’s first past the post system, based on the 2017 General Election results, that result would likely lead to a minority Conservative Government. However, the betting market fancies a majority Conservative Government.

    So, at this stage, generally shite news for Labour, LibDems and Remainers of all persuasion.

  94. Bruce of Newcastle

    Amazing! Numbers now thinks the ATO is evil. Soon he will regard taxes as theft!

  95. struth

    If it’s going to start, it will be in Alice Springs.

    It’s been getting worse for years.

    In some ways, I’m with the blackfellas.
    The white people are the menace, but as Jacinta knows, it’s only certain whites.
    Left Wing whites.
    The racists that have kept aboriginal people down so as to parade them as victims for their anti western politics, and become wealthy through their misery.
    And all the right wingers like myself left the town long ago.
    All who treated aboriginals as equals and judged on character and not skin colour.
    It is now filled with condescending white public servants who blame all on the west, excuse all aboriginal behaviour and while able to see the human misery and destruction around them, party in the golf course estate, due to it’s continued existence.
    It’s now breaking out of the town camps more than it ever has and it’s only going to get worse.
    These left wing arseholes ruined my town and a bit of comeuppance might not be so bad.
    Let’s see them respect aboriginal culture when it involves more than driving passed it in a taxpayer bought, air conditioned Land Cruiser.

  96. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Fading, ageing autocue reader needs to reinvent career as “serious j’ism ladee”.

    With the sterling help of the ALPBC, it’s all proceeding to plan. Except when it isn’t.

  97. Knuckle Dragger

    Of course Liability Bob reckons the ATO’s evil, Bruce.

    If you hard to fork out $15,000,000 in tax you’d think it was bad news too.

    He could, of course, be an outrider in this respect.

  98. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Let’s see them respect aboriginal culture when it involves more than driving passed it in a taxpayer bought, air conditioned Land Cruiser.

    Well said, struth.

  99. Arky

    the joke was that the NZ economy would collapse if all the Zephyrs were taken off the road.

    ..
    I almost bought a mark 4 zeph at 18.
    Went with the Cortina instead.
    Piece of shit that was.

  100. feelthebern

    I’m seeing the future.
    The internet will break on 27th November (Australian time).
    That’s when The Irishman drops.

  101. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    I was trying to look up some Prince Andrew memes and instead stumbled onto this.

  102. Steve Trickler:

    Screwdrivers. Not a bad yarn. ( :

    A couple of years ago, someone suggested the “One good turn” The Natural History of the Screwdriver.
    Interesting story.

  103. Leigh Lowe

    Of course Liability Bob reckons the ATO’s evil, Bruce.

    If you hard to fork out $15,000,000 in tax you’d think it was bad news too

    I guess if you write ‘1735099’ in the taxable income box every year, the bills start to add up.

  104. 8th Dan

    It’s OK, Bruce Not of Newcastle. The link is not to Breitbart, only ABC New Just In. Perfectly safe.

  105. old bloke

    Possibly holding the world’s most dangerous job, President Trump’s food tester was reported stricken with severe symptoms of food poisoning. President Trump undergoing tests at a military hospital.

  106. Juan

    Under the UK’s first past the post system, based on the 2017 General Election results, that result would likely lead to a minority Conservative Government. However, the betting market fancies a majority Conservative Government.

    I believe the focus on majority government misses the point.

    Even a returned Boris Johnson minority government would see the Withdrawal Bill passed reasonably quickly (with a few Labour votes) and the UK leave the European Union by the end of January with a transition period up to the end of 2020.

    The main game isn’t so much majority versus minority government, but how big the majority will be and what will that will mean for the future relationship agreement forged between the UK and the EU.

    To explain, the ‘no deal’ cliff-edge the UK faced in November is going to be revisited in December 2020. The transitional arrangements expire at the end of 2020 and absent a trade deal, no deal happens. This is what the ‘Spartans’ of the ERG want and have been promised. (I think it’s generally agreed Boris has promised everything to everyone; a trade deal to those who want a trade deal; and no deal to those who want no deal; or at least the passing of the Withdrawal Bill is the road to each side’s preferred option.) The Spartans have drawn additional comfort from Boris’s promise he wouldn’t seek an extension to the transition.

    So a Tory majority of less than 30 or 40 isn’t ‘Spartan-proof’. If Boris negotiates a trade deal which cedes any degree of control to the EU, the ERG would simply do an MV1, 2, or 3 and join with the Opposition to vote against it but this time knowing, with no agreement ratified, the UK would be trading on WTO terms on the 1st of January 2121.

    Or Parliament could force the Prime Minister to write a letter to the EU asking for an extension — sound familiar? Even out of the EU, but with a Tory government with a bare majority, the relentless dysfunction would continue.

  107. Top Ender

    Only in the NT Department:

    A man made more than 350 drunken calls to Gunbalanya Health Centre’s emergency number to tell nurses his “c**k was hard”, a court has heard.

    Presley Wurrkidj, 41, pleaded guilty in the Supreme Court on Monday to one count of improper use of emergency call service (vexatious).

    Crown prosecutor Damien Jones told the court Wurrkidj called the nurses at the clinic 354 times between April 2-4.

    He said the landline at the centre was momentarily out of service because of his non-stop calling. Medical staff had to use the clinic’s manager on-call mobile number for emergencies instead.

    “You also called the clinic manager’s on-call mobile number 34 times between 3.44am and 6.27am on April 4,” Mr Jones said.

    “When you called that number early in the morning, she answered the call.

    “You said to her: ‘My c**k is hard.’ You said that multiple times before she ended the phone call and stopped you from calling her again.

    “You kept calling 34 times and left messages on that phone where you were breathing heavy.”

    The court heard the 28-year-old remote area nurse had been left disturbed and underwent some therapy after the incident.

    Wurrkidj was remanded in custody for sentencing this week.

    NT News

  108. Leigh Lowe

    Top Ender

    #3215769, posted on November 19, 2019 at 1:37 pm

    Only in the NT Department:

    A man made more than 350 drunken calls to Gunbalanya Health Centre’s emergency number to tell nurses his “c**k was hard”, a court has heard.

    Misunderstanding.
    He thought he calling the vet clinic and was talking about his croc.

  109. Knuckle Dragger:

    International Men’s Day being observed by reporter chicky at RFS HQ. Spectacular, yet not overdone push, lift and separation.

    God bless this country.

    Piccies or it didn’t happen.
    Bastard.

  110. Helen

    OK, I have my Malwarebytes and Webroot installed and very happy. Webroot piced up two nasties that Avast had missed. I have switched avast firewall off and windows firewall on. Puter is so much faster already.

  111. notafan

    Wow more and more evidence as to why nursing jobs in the NT are so sought after

  112. Tom

    Bern, what happens on November 27? Something in English would be great.

  113. Dr Faustus

    In Pea and Thimble news:

    Alinta Energy considers early closure of Victoria’s Loy Yang B coal-fired power station

    Speaking on The Business program, Jeff Dimery, the chief executive of Alinta, which owns a portfolio of coal and gas generators, said the low cost of renewables would likely make coal obsolete.

    So, pretty conclusive: coal-fired owner says renewables are cheaper than coal? Game over.

    Not so fast:

    “I think it is prudent for a government to explore high-efficiency, low-emissions (HELE) coal-fired power, and carbon capture and storage,” Mr Dimery said.

    “As things stand today and looking at the cost curve of renewables I think it’s going to find it very difficult to compete, however, I think it is worthwhile continuing to invest in researching those opportunities.”

    “Given my 25 years of industry experience, I’d certainly be backing renewables, pumped storage and battery over HELE and carbon capture and storage.”

    Given my own years of industry experience, I’d agree.
    Experience round the world tells us that carbon capture and storage is technically possible, but mindbogglingly expensive and complicated. In practice you are loading the cost of HELE generation with a vast capital back-end, a specialised exhaust gas pipeline, a field of disposal wells – and operating/maintenance costs greater than that of the power station itself.

    Makes subsidised windmills and batteries look vairy cheap.
    Or nuclear.

  114. Farmer Gez

    Lamb prices have dropped to just over $7 a kilo at sale from a high of nearly $9. That’s almost $50 per head for a 26kg plus lamb.
    I doubt leg and chop fanciers at the Cat will see any change price over the counter.

  115. old bloke

    Crown prosecutor Damien Jones told the court Wurrkidj called the nurses at the clinic 354 times between April 2-4.

    I don’t know what is more amazing; that he managed to stay drunk for a few days or maintained an erection for the same period.

    Florida Man has got nothing on Territory Man.

  116. Leigh Lowe

    FMD.
    Reading the Oz.
    Cameron Clyne going as chairman of Rugger. Good.
    He has his finger in the pie of picking next chairman and next coach. Not good.
    Two candidates being hawked around … Fat Andy Demetriou and David Gallop. Very bad.
    Why do we have to put up with local failures?
    Why can’t we import world-class failures from abroad?

  117. Knuckle Dragger:

    I’m no Republican. The only possible salvation for the Monarchy is for William to stage a coup, Liz abdicates and Charlie, Andrew and Harry are shot. Wallis-Markle can be confined to a nunnery without any social media.

    I’d confess to being a Royalist in much the same way as I would confess to being a Christian. I’m neither, but I see both as a fine institution to have in a society to buttress social stability.
    However something has gone dreadfully wrong in the upbringing of the last few generations of the Royal family.
    Charles is a loony, Andrew and Harry showed initial promise, but have lost any semblance to being functional leaders. Of the respective wives, only one is showing any success in the role.
    William is therefore not in a position to be a successful King.
    I don’t know where the solution lies.
    Perhaps the whole social institution – the hangers on, the nobility, are the problem.
    Dare I ask – is it time for a purge?

  118. Dr Faustus

    I believe the focus on majority government misses the point.

    Broadly agree with your analysis re Brexit.

    However, the UK faces a number of challenges other than its future trade relationships with the EU. Not the least is the question of whether the Union itself holds together – or whether Great Britain devolves into a united Ireland and cluster of micro states torn between the EU and England for sustenance. Or something messier than that.

    Add to that the alternative of the Labour manifesto for a ‘socialist revival’ and the importance of a majority government with a moderately coherent policy platform comes clearer.

  119. Juan

    Looks like Kushner has been in Pompeo’s ear.

    I don’t think Pompeo, or Trump for that matter, would have taken a lot of convincing.

    Trump’s evangelical base would be all for an Israeli annexation of Judea and Samaria (the West Bank to you and me) and the creation of a Greater Israel.

    What puzzles me is, why now? Just as Benny Gantz enters the final phase of his attempt to form a coalition government.

    Is it intended to show the US Administration’s support for whoever is the Prime Minister of Israel irrespective of whether it’s Gantz or Netanyahu; or is it Trump signaling to Gantz’s potential coalition partners that they have more to gain by sticking with Netanyahu (or forcing yet another election in which Israeli voters may finally, perhaps out of exhaustion, give the Orthodox/right-wing bloc a Knesset majority)?

    Were it the latter, if I were Israeli I’m not sure how I would feel about such a surgical intervention, even from such a close ally.

  120. Knuckle Dragger

    Of course it’s time for a purge, Winston.

    By the last remaining barely sensible Royal, to knock this shit on the head. It’s not as though there isn’t a precedent.

    I suspect the public would love it.

  121. Leigh Lowe

    Dare I ask – is it time for a purge?

    The Romanov solution?
    Well, it’s been a century since we have had some blue blood on the floor, so maybe It’s Time.

  122. Black Ball

    Excellent post at 1.04pm struth. Kudos.
    As for some light hearted stuff, I stumbled across this article 2 years ago. Betoota Advocate in fine form.

  123. Juan

    However, the UK faces a number of challenges other than its future trade relationships with the EU. Not the least is the question of whether the Union itself holds together – or whether Great Britain devolves into a united Ireland and cluster of micro states torn between the EU and England for sustenance. Or something messier than that.

    For what it’s worth I think another year of continued chaos and dysfunction in Westminster will presage another, this time successful, Scottish independence referendum — IndyRef2.

    If the Union manages to hold together, it would likely be in a new federal form, which would mean England would have a representative assembly to mirror Holyrood, the Senedd, and Stormont. Get ready for the debate on which city in England should host it!

  124. feelthebern

    He has his finger in the pie of picking next chairman and next coach. Not good.

    Idiocy.
    But what do you expect from brain dead management of a dying game.

  125. Farmer Gez

    Bryan Ferry interviewed on ABC radio by Myf Warhurst.
    He sounds every bit of his seventy four years. Can’t say I thought much of his music at any stage but he had one hell of a time.

  126. feelthebern

    I don’t want to give RA any help, but the next Chair needs to have zero outside directorships.
    They need to be 100% invested in rugby for a fixed term of 4 years (until after the next RWC).

  127. Old School Conservative

    Driver of the mark three Zephyr.

    “Z Victor One this is Z Victor Two. Come in Z Victor One.”
    Ain’t the old days grand?

  128. feelthebern

    I’ve always thought Myf Warhurst was a pleasant enough lady.
    But I believe she’s been dodging too many salads lately.

  129. Arky:

    Vietnam! Vietnam! Vietnam! Fatty 5D!!!
    Am I doing this right?

    Here ya go, Arky:
    Wussia! Wussia! Wussia!
    Ukwayne! Ukwayne! Ukwayne!
    Vietnom! Vietnom! Vietnom!
    Twump! Twump! Twump!

  130. feelthebern

    Where’s Delcon?
    No one’s reminding us of Syria !

  131. Old School Conservative

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #3215748, posted on November 19, 2019 at 1:01 pm
    Amazing! Numbers now thinks the ATO is evil. Soon he will regard taxes as theft!

    I picked it a little time ago.
    Reading the Cat is slowly turning numbers into a sensible person. Constant lessons in logic and severe smackdowns will do that to you.

  132. Indolent

    The Spartans have drawn additional comfort from Boris’s promise he wouldn’t seek an extension to the transition.

    You mean Mr. Die in a Ditch for Brexit promised. Really.

    The best outcome, although unlikely to happen, is for the Brexit party to win enough seats to hold bloviating Boris’ feet to the coals to actually achieve a genuine Brexit, something dear Boris has no real intention of doing.

  133. Juan

    I don’t want to give RA any help, but the next Chair needs to have zero outside directorships.

    You know the sort of people who play, and then go on to administer rugby, don’t you? 😜

    Zero outside directorships would reduce your pool of candidates to … no one.

  134. Incoherent Rambler:

    I would rather have a constitution.
    I will take the US constitution, as is. Warts and all.

    Yes.
    Ours is fucking useless.

  135. Farmer Gez

    feelthebern
    #3215799, posted on November 19, 2019 at 2:31 pm
    I’ve always thought Myf Warhurst was a pleasant enough lady.
    But I believe she’s been dodging too many salads lately.

    Pleasant enough but serves up feminism 101 at every turn on the radio. A poor interview technique. She managed to turn a talk with Steve Martin and Martin Short into a tedious Q&A session. At one stage Short wandered away from the phone and Steve had to call him back.

  136. cohenite

    I’ve always thought Myf Warhurst was a pleasant enough lady.
    But I believe she’s been dodging too many salads lately.

    Back in the day she had great tits and a wonderful laugh; now she’s just another abc, alarmist, Trump hating bitch.

  137. Lizzie:

    If any single commenter constantly implied KD is a mincing homo leprous vegan who has never sold a hot dog in his life, with variations on the theme over many years, you’d respond.

    Is that true?
    Quelle horreur!
    Get down here, Knuckle Dragger, explain this barbarous insanity!
    Are you now, or have you ever, been a Vegan?

  138. Dare I ask – is it time for a purge?

    How does “Lord Protector of the British Monarchy (IR)” sound?

    I’ll hand it back to the Windsors when they breed same sane ones.

  139. I’d argue that that William II, Duke of Normandy was a French usurper of the English crown. We should search for the rightful descendant by primogeniture of Edgar Ætheling and crown them as the rightful king! 😜

    Surely someone has done a genealogical/dNA search of the bloodline?

  140. Bruce in WA

    Wasn’t sure about who Myf Warhurst was, so a quick Google search turned up:

    Born: May 29, 1974 (age 45) · Portland, Australia
    Height: 4 feet 0 inches
    Education: University of Melbourne
    Siblings: Andre Warhurst (Brother) · Kit Warhurst (Brother)

    Looks like Wiki has been “hacked” again … or she’s transitioning to an Ewok.

  141. Cassie of Sydney

    “Leigh Lowe
    #3215787, posted on November 19, 2019 at 2:13 pm
    Dare I ask – is it time for a purge?

    The Romanov solution?
    Well, it’s been a century since we have had some blue blood on the floor, so maybe It’s Time.”

    The Wussians were pretty ruthless in purging….actually annihilating….their royals. Lenin and Sverdlov had no problem murdering the royal children.

  142. IR:

    Sire, South Australia will be a welcome addition to my holdings.
    Do you mind if I extend the nuclear bomb test area?

    No you may not.
    These lands belong to the Minister For War, Winston Smith – along with other (numerous) holdings of land/Real Estate.

  143. Juan

    You mean Mr. Die in a Ditch for Brexit promised. Really.

    I think I also implied Boris can’t keep all of his promises to both sides of the deal / no deal chasm within his party. 😉

    But in the event of something in the order of a 30 seat majority, the at least 15-strong Spartans wouldn’t just be complaining about Boris’s broken promises, they would be in a position to do something about it — they could scuttle his trade deal.

    This would also mean the whole of 2020 would be a repeat of 2019 … and 2018.

    The best outcome, although unlikely to happen, is for the Brexit party to win enough seats to hold bloviating Boris’ feet to the coals to actually achieve a genuine Brexit, something dear Boris has no real intention of doing.

    I would have said this was still possible — the election has a long way to go — but TBP seems to be imploding. It kind of has the stench of death around it, alienating its own supporters never mind the voters.

    Farage has managed to alienate both TBP supporters who wanted him to stand down in all constituencies the Tories have a realistic chance to win, and the supporters who wanted him to stand PPCs in all seats outside of Northern Ireland.

  144. cohenite

    Myf Warhurst and her girls.

    I couldn’t find a photo of her laughing.

  145. Juan

    The Romanov solution?

    Perhaps slightly off topic but in light of the discussion about the real King of England, it’s worth noting no Romanov after 1762 any Romanov blood.

  146. No you may not.

    Just every thing north of Murray Bridge.

  147. Zatara

    I would rather have a constitution.
    I will take the US constitution, as is. Warts and all.

    Can probably get it cheap. At least one the major parties there don’t seem to use it anymore.

  148. Any nominations for the Office of Lord Protector?

    Not an elected position.
    The role is mine.

  149. John Constantine

    Heavy lambs a few cents under seven bucks a kilo dressed weight. good condition mutton ewes a few cents over six bucks a kilo dressed weight. Almost as if the closing gap indicates substitution of mutton for lamb in the chicom market on an epic scale.

  150. Leigh Lowe

    The Wussians were pretty ruthless in purging….actually annihilating….their royals. 

    Well, not just the royals.
    Ask Leon Trotsky.
    Actually, you can’t.
    On account of him being lobotomised with an icepick.
    Speaking of lobotomised Commos, where is Private Imputator?

  151. Top Ender

    The detective who arrested James Gargasoulas a week before he rammed his car into innocent pedestrians on Melbourne’s Bourke St said he ran downstairs to intervene when he heard the soon-to-be murderer was going to be granted bail, a court heard.

    Detective Senior Constable Murray Gentner, who pleaded with Gargasoulas via text message in the minutes before he turned left on Bourke St to kill six people, told an inquest he was typing up Gargasoulas’ charges when he heard it was going well in the bail hearing.

    “I was typing the charges when the section sergeant of the police station said you better down quickly, he’s going to given bail,” he said.

    “I literally ran down the stairs.”

    Victoria’s Coroner Court on Monday released an email Detective Gentner sent to his superiors the day after the massacre, in which he lashes the decision to grant bail.

    “Gargasoulas’ behaviour when driving the stolen vehicle at high speed, out of control, outside the police station and into the intersection shows that he is a danger to the public and himself.” the email said.

    Detective Gentner said he was “traumatised” when he sent the email.

    Gargasoulas was charged on January 14 with a slew of offences including driving dangerously at the intersection of Carlisle and Chapel St in St Kilda and stealing an ATM from a psychology clinic.

    The inquest also released Detective Gentner’s interview with Gargasoulas on January 14, in which the murderer accused police of “secretly trying to kill him.”

    Coroner Jacqui Hawkins is examining how Victoria Police handled Gargasoulas, who was out on bail and had 20 pages of priors, and how his bail conditions were monitored.

    The decision to grant bail will not be examined.

    Detective Gentner said he told the volunteer bail justice Gargasoulas was an unacceptable risk of reoffending and needed support for mental health and drug issues.

    “Basically I went in there advised the bail justice that I concluded the interview with the offender in which he’s admitted a series of crimes to me,” he said.

    “I also recalled saying he was an unacceptable risk of reoffending.”

    The inquest heard Detective Gentner was halfway through typing up the charges when the bail hearing took place.

    Gargasoulas was sentenced to life in prison with a non-parole period of 46 years in February 2019 for the murder of Yosuke Kanno, 25, Jessica Mudie, 23, Matthew Si, 33, Bhavita Patel, 33, Tahlia Hakin, 10, and baby Zachary Matthew Bryant.

    Detective Gentner said he monitored LEAP, a police database, in case Gargasoulas reoffended as he didn’t think a bail condition breach would see the offender put behind bars.

    “Stealing cars probably the most likely one …. There were thefts criminal damage, violence against family members,” he said. “I checked everyday.”

    The line about bail should read: The the inquest is not examining the decision to grant Gargasoulas bail, but is examining the monitoring of his bail conditions.

    Detective Gentner told the inquest Gargasoulas still seemed relatively sane and spoke to him about religion when he reported to St Kilda police station as part of his bail conditions. He said on one occasion Gargasoulas brought with him a Jehovah’s Witness catalogue.

    ‘He was deluded’

    When Detective Gentner was asked by assisting council Stephen O’Meara QC if he had a friendly rapport with Gargasoulas, he said the criminal was trying to impress him with the hopes of becoming an informant.

    “The offender was trying to impress me the whole time, he thought he could come and work for me,” he said.

    “He wanted to be an informer or a business … he was deluded.”

    “He was basically saying he was going to help me solve a murder.”

    The night before the rampage Gargasoulas told his girlfriend Detective Gentner was trying to kill him, Mr O’Meara said.

    Detective Gentner replied: ““I didn’t know that but it’s not surprising.”

    The inquest continues.

    . Oz

  152. Struth:

    What about conquering New Zealand and declaring yourself Emperor of Australasia?

    How, the army are all off having tranny operations.
    The navy are still painting their fingernails and the Air force has been grounded by CASA.

    I’ll sort that lot out.
    The Army will give a dishonourable discharge to anyone who deliberately renders themselves unfit for service in any theatre of operations.
    CASA has just been declared a terrorist organisation, and all members are to meet at the Testing Grounds, Woomera.

  153. Des Deskperson

    ‘I’ve always thought Myf Warhurst was a pleasant enough lady.
    But I believe she’s been dodging too many salads lately.’

    As a ‘Team Captain’ on Spicks and Specks, Warhurst always surprised me with her limited and narrow knowledge of even contemporary music genres, even though she was a tax-payer funded DJ at JJJ at the time.

    She never struck me as being funny, clever or in any way out if the ordinary, neither on TV or radio. How do mediocrities like her and Robbie Buck – a similar ex-JJJ nondescript – morph into politico/socio/cultural gurus?

    And how do they gain entree to the industry in the first place? Their jobs don’t seem to be advertised, I suspect they are invited to join by insiders whose attention they have, in some way of other, caught.

  154. Leigh Lowe

    He, he.
    I think Randy Andy might end up being Lord Protector of the Royal Deer herd, living in a little stone cottage in a far-flung corner of Balmoral Estate.
    In the internet age you can no longer send the accident prone heirs orf to Australia

  155. Leigh Lowe

    Desky, I might be mistaken, but is Mzzz Warhurst’s daddy an ANU academic?

  156. IR:

    Norfolk Island was a good model.

    Norfolk Island has just been declared a Testing Area for my new nuclear weapons.
    I plan to make in into a base for extensive cultivation of hops, to become the “Beer That Glows In The Dark.”

  157. pete m

    How many Juans are there?

    Just Juan.

  158. Indolent

    I think I also implied Boris can’t keep all of his promises to both sides of the deal / no deal chasm within his party.

    You may have implied that Boris couldn’t keep all his promises (hard to do if you promise everything to everyone) but what I was stating is that he doesn’t WANT a real Brexit. If he did, he could have had it by now. His whole emphasis was on getting an election. If he had delivered a clean Brexit first, he would have romped in at the election, whenever it was held.

    It looks like the Conservatives will win but more doubtful that the country will.

  159. The Saxon and Norman lines were joined through Princess Margaret’s descendants as she became Queen of Scotland. Her daughter Edith married Henry I – the last Norman King.

    His daughter was Matilda and her son Henry (II) took over from Stephen as part of the peace treaty after the anarchy.

    Also remember that Matilda of Flanders, who had French noble and royal ancestry (including Hugh Capet and Charlemagne), also descended from the House of Wessex and indeed Alfred the Great.

    Life as a Saxon probably wasn’t paradise on earth and life under the Normans probably wasn’t a living hell. The way we were taught history was simply to legitimise a war of conquest that wasn’t, to paper over the immorality of imperialism.

    William I of England and his descendants had a better claim (if you can tolerate 11th century claims to absolute power) than the Saxon lords such as the Godwinsons. Edward the Confessor probably wanted a strong King of the royal line (at least his sprogs) who was a fighter.

  160. bespoke

    johanna
    #3215439, posted on November 19, 2019 at 6:01 am
    Congrats, bespoke.
    The great thing about being a grandparent is that when the cherub becomes a little damp around the nethers, or a little noisy, he or she can be handed back to the adoring parents.

    That’s the plan.

    MatrixTransform
    #3215446, posted on November 19, 2019 at 6:37 am
    bespoke, yr officially old

    I know it was inevitable but if I start sounding like struth, MV or Arky please shoot me.

    Delta A
    #3215494, posted on November 19, 2019 at 8:55 am
    Congratulations, bespoke.
    There’s nothing as delightful as a granddaughter.

    Thank you that means allot to me. Yes they are delightful apparently but I was informed today by a very very old granddad 😎 to except being told what to do and have my wallet raided at will by her.

  161. areff

    Check out the map. There is no need for the tunnel in the first place. It’s a boondoggle and always has been.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metro_Tunnel#/media/File:Melbourne_Metro_Rail_Tunnel_route_map.svg

  162. Old School Conservative

    But what do you expect from brain dead management of a dying game.

    Precisely the reason that Clyne should just go now; new board members and CEO elected by all Australian clubs not just Clyne’s people; only then would a new coach be selected.
    Loved the game they play in heaven since I was a little tacker but now fully agree with your diagnosis.

  163. Juan

    Surely someone has done a genealogical/dNA search of the bloodline?

    Well, Alfred the Great’s remains are believed to be here, but I’m not sure if they’re in a condition to produce a DNA strand for comparative analysis.

  164. areff

    whoops. wrong thread. sorry

  165. Mark from Melbourne

    Thank you that means allot to me. Yes they are delightful apparently but I was informed today by a very very old granddad 😎 to except being told what to do and have my wallet raided at will by her.

    So she really IS a female, then?

    Congrats.

  166. Farmer Gez

    As a ‘Team Captain’ on Spicks and Specks, Warhurst always surprised me with her limited and narrow knowledge of even contemporary music genres, even though she was a tax-payer funded DJ at JJJ at the time.

    Alan Brough was the other team captain, a great music mind and funny as well. He does stints on radio and is very good as a host and interviewer.
    He’s one of Arky’s mob though.

  167. feelthebern

    Clearly Myf is a hot button issue.
    She always liked a laugh on that ABC music show.

  168. feelthebern

    He’s one of Arky’s mob though.

    Spends his time sewing vinyl costumes ?

  169. Mark from Melbourne

    Due to a typo on another thread (which I thankfully caught, thus eluding the grammar nazis), I humbly present this for inclusion in the Catictionary :

    givernment (n) : The process by which governments dole out OPM.

  170. 1735099

    givernment (n) : The process by which governments dole out OPM.

    Conscription (n) : The process by which governments dole out OPL*.
    *Other people’s lives

  171. 1735099

    Amazing! Numbers now thinks the ATO is evil. Soon he will regard taxes as theft!

    You can’t tell the difference between taxation and intimidation.
    The first is OK, the second isn’t, especially when applied by the most powerful towards the most vulnerable.

  172. 1735099

    Scomo has egg on his face –

    “Indeed, I hope the Prime Minister recognises that by criticising the big battery as nothing more than a Big Banana or a Big Pineapple … that those type of demeaning remarks towards this cut-through technology doesn’t serve the nation.

    “A lot of the other states are still grappling with that transition, South Australia did it before everyone else.

    “That’s why I think we’re ahead of the game.”

    Musk’s technology is working as advertised.
    Happy days…..

  173. Knuckle Dragger

    Coastergratisitic (n) (med.): A lover of free buses.

    Prone to spasticism when bus is removed.

    ‘The coastergratisitic who couldn’t get another job developed spasticism when the bus was taken away.’

  174. Cardimona

    Cats, can anyone tell me who is currently in the Australian branch of the Club of Rome?

    Asking for friend.

  175. Old Bloke:

    Possibly holding the world’s most dangerous job, President Trump’s food tester was reported stricken with severe symptoms of food poisoning. President Trump undergoing tests at a military hospital.

    I put a couple of dollars on the VP to get the big job, knowing the way the Lunatic Left work. The odds have gone gone from 17/1 to 42/1.
    Betfair must trust his security detail to stop the LLs.

  176. Knuckle Dragger:

    Of course it’s time for a purge, Winston.
    By the last remaining barely sensible Royal, to knock this shit on the head. It’s not as though there isn’t a precedent.
    I suspect the public would love it.

    My assumption is that it will be televised, KD?
    Who is the latest Minister for Entertainment?

  177. Bruce of Newcastle

    Musk’s technology is working as advertised.

    For four minutes. Then it is flat.

    To cover three days it would cost 24 x 60/4 x 3 x $90 million = $97.2 billion.

    Which would last about 8 years, whereupon South Australia would have to fork out another $97.2 billion for another one.

  178. Bruce of Newcastle

    I hope Musk’s South Australian big battery doesn’t catch fire.
    It’s apparently constructed of lots of Powerwalls daisy chained.
    Each Powerwall would have a certain chance of catching fire.
    So adding them all together there’d a significant risk of it going up.
    Adelaide forecast to be 42 C tomorrow too.

  179. zyconoclast

    Arky
    #3215636, posted on November 19, 2019 at 11:16 am
    It’s good to be King.

  180. Incoherent Rambler:

    Just every thing north of Murray Bridge.

    No.
    100km North of Portagutta. and that’s my final offer. I can’t drive my newly acquired fleet of Merkava IVs in the glow at night dust – they will get sand and stuff all over them.
    Just as an aside, that’s a rather nasty looking shot trap they’ve got there, isn’t it?

  181. cohenite

    Cats, can anyone tell me who is currently in the Australian branch of the Club of Rome?

    Start with keith suter and when you finish vomiting you can go on.

  182. feelthebern

    Bill Burr on fire.
    First 10 mins are some of his finest.

  183. notafan

    The vegan Impossible Burger isn’t vegan enough at Burger King.

    That’s according to a class-action vegans are launching at the fast-food chain, which they say grills the meat imitation product on the same grill as its fleshy counterpart, according to the New York Post.

    file under go wok go broke

  184. Cardimona:

    Cats, can anyone tell me who is currently in the Australian branch of the Club of Rome?

    Just a tick, I’ll nip over to old mates and check with him.
    He used to be a bouncer there.
    Some of the stories!!!

  185. Overburdened

    It could be said that Prince Andrew is out of touch because of his cocooned existence.

    Being married to Fergie probably wasn’t a help.

    Or maybe he wasn’t I’m not sure.

  186. stackja

    Lisa Wilkinson, Bert Newton and shock new immigration doco headline SBS programs in 2020

    Australia’s controversial immigration laws and domestic violence crisis will be put under the microscope by SBS next year, as part of its shock 2020 programming line-up.
    Holly Byrnes, National TV editor, News Corp Australia Network
    Subscriber only

    November 19, 2019 3:48pm

    SBS will put Australia’s controversial immigration laws under the TV microscope next year in a provocative new four-part factual series announced today.

    Who Gets To Stay In Australia? will follow stories of people whose lives hinge on “one crucial decision” and comes amid the criticism of the home affairs and immigration department and its minister, Peter Dutton.

    Australia’s immigration laws are considered some of the toughest in the world, with Boris Johnson reportedly inspired to introduce similar border protection legislation to the UK – a key factor for those who voted to leave in the Brexit elections.

    In another series commission, See What You Made Me Do will go behind-the-scenes of the national domestic violence crisis – in a groundbreaking documentary to be presented by Jess Hill, the author of the critically-acclaimed book by the same name.

  187. Caveman

    The vegan Impossible Burger isn’t vegan enough at Burger King

    Vegetables want to taste like meat.
    Time to add an extra letter. LGBTIQV

  188. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Cory Bernardi ‘to quit federal politics’

    Greg Brown
    Journalist
    @gregbrown_TheOz
    45 minutes ago November 19, 2019
    6 Comments

    South Australian senator Cory Bernardi will quit federal politics next month, according to a report.

    The Adelaide Advertiser has reported that the Liberal turncoat will vacate the Senate on the last day of parliament for the year, which is December 5.

    Senator Bernardi controversially quit the government in 2017 less than a year after securing a six-year Senate term on a Liberal Party ticket.

    He founded his own party, the Australian Conservatives, which failed and was disbanded this year.

    His replacement will be a Liberal which will bolster the Coalition’s numbers in the Senate.

    A spokeswoman for Senator Bernardi would not confirm or deny the report.

    “The senator will have something to say when he is ready,” the spokeswoman said.

    “There is nothing I can add at this time.”

    Breaking, from the Oz.

  189. Bruce of Newcastle

    according to a class-action vegans are launching at the fast-food chain, which they say grills the meat imitation product on the same grill as its fleshy counterpart

    Doesn’t have to be contaminating. Visible is enough to send them into fits of outrage.

    Vegan University Students Threaten To Boycott Christmas Party Because Venue Overlooks Greyhound Track (18 Nov)

    Sheffield University’s Edward Bramley Law Society came under attack for scheduling the Christmas Masquerade Ball at the OEC, a dining venue next to Owlerton greyhound stadium in Sheffield, for 28 November.

    The greyhound track looks to be about a kilometre away.

    So any Burger King which sells meat burgers is eventually going to get sued because the meat is within sniffing or visual distance of the holy stuff.

  190. Tailgunner

    Just a quick drive by from Bridge Rd.
    Jeffrey Epstein didn’t kill himself.
    😏

  191. Tailgunner

    He used to be a bouncer there.

    Lol

  192. Leigh Lowe

    1735099

    #3215871, posted on November 19, 2019 at 4:15 pm

    Bing bong.
    Rave-on calling.

  193. Snoopy

    TheirABC

    Since a state of emergency was declared in Queensland on November 9, police said they had taken action against 18 people for deliberately lighting fires.

    Of that, police said, 10 are juveniles who are being dealt with under the Youth Justice Act.

    In the two years to the end of 2018, 136 children were charged with endangering property in Queensland by lighting fires — just 18 were convicted.

    But climate emergency.

    Police chose not to charge two teenagers who were believed to have accidentally started a fire from a cigarette which gutted Binna Burra Lodge in the Gold Coast Hinterland in September.

    I would love to know who their families are. I suspect they are not nobodies.

  194. Confused Old Misfit

    The Fleurieu is MINE!

  195. Top Ender

    A vision of what might happen in some of our more woke Green states and territories – experience Dubai when the electricity failed…

  196. Snoopy

    Vegan University Students Threaten To Boycott Christmas Party Because Venue Overlooks Greyhound Track

    Wouldn’t the judicious use of hat pins end their distress?

  197. From the LDP newsletter:

    Dear Frank,

    On this International Men’s Day, we have some information from a supporter of ours, Bettina Arndt, regarding the inquiry into the Family Court system:

    “Exciting interview exposing the truth about our Family Court.

    I have a rare interview for you today, with a brave, extraordinarily honest family lawyer from Sydney. I was delighted to discover Ezequiel Trumper, a very experienced lawyer who was willing to tell the truth about what’s going wrong with our Family Court.

    In our interview Ezequiel doesn’t hold back. He exposes the way our court system is now weaponized to allow women to use false allegations to destroy men’s relationship with their children. He’s forced to explain to his male clients that they are absolutely up against it. They face a court which won’t enforce its own orders, where parental alienation is rewarded and perjury is rife.

    This is a really important interview, particularly in the current climate where so much of mainstream media is pushing the feminist narrative decrying the need for a new inquiry and claiming women never lie.

    Here’s the link to the new video –

    [REDACTED TO END OF BLOG POST]

    Please help me do everything possible to get people to see it.

    Our mad feminists attract international attention.

    Robert Franklin from the US-based National Parents Organization has been writing an excellent series of blogs about the way the Australian feminists are “howling like banshees” over the focus of this new inquiry:

    “I’ve read article after article all aimed at the same thing – casting doubt on the latest Australian Governmental review of family law and courts in the Land Down Under. Those who oppose children having full, meaningful relationships with their fathers post-divorce don’t like the new review for the simple reason that they fear the truth may at last come out.”

    Franklin points out that the previous review, by the Australian Law Reform Commission, was much more to the feminists liking. He’s written very detailed blogs about what was wrong with that review – here, here and here – and why the women’s groups were so keen on it. Franklin’s forthcoming blog will expose misinformation and distortions included in a dreadful article by Griffith University law lecturer, Zoe Rathus, published recently in The Conversation. Rathus’ title says it all: “Parental alienation: the debunked theory that women lie about violence is still used in court.”

    Former WA Law Reform Commissioner, Augusto Zimmerman, has published an excellent Spectator Australia article: How abuse of violence orders corrupts our family law system. Zimmermann points out there is an undeniable correlation between apprehended orders, false claims of domestic violence, and parental alienation. He mentions an analysis of NSW court files, which reveals that these domestic violence cases, on average, are dealt with in less than three minutes – a shocking statistic proving that absolutely no attempt is made to investigate whether such allegations have any validity. For the woman alleging violence the system is fool proof, with no risk at all that her lies will be exposed.”

    Thanks to Bettina, some other stories can get out too.

  198. Shy Ted:

    Remote NT Aboriginal community of Laramba has more than twice the safe levels of uranium in their drinking water. Which can’t be good for you. On the other hand it makes it easier to arrest people after dark.

    Apparently there has been a lot of Green Propaganda about the presence of U235 in the human body.
    When I was in the army, I read a couple of studies to do with depleted Uranium left in the body.
    A very small group of soldiers were wounded with DU from blue on blue contacts.
    None of them suffered any ill effects from the DU itself after surgical efforts to remove it. Apparently the body slowly removes the DU and it gets peed out. No special precautions were needed to be taken, by the time it hit the bowl, it was well below background level.
    Now this one I do trust because I read the background papers, unlike the lecture on soldiers trying to dodge the system by getting infections in their prepuce necessitating circumcision.

  199. Bruce of Newcastle

    Remote NT Aboriginal community of Laramba has more than twice the safe levels of uranium in their drinking water.

    I’ll add that their drinking water contains 0.04 mg/L of uranium according to the linked report.
    By comparison the average amount of uranium in dirt is 2 mg/kg.
    So dirt can contain 50 times as much uranium as their water contains.
    Maybe the NT government could ban unsafe dirt too.

  200. feelthebern

    But feelings Bruce.
    Feelings are more important that your science !

  201. Cardimona

    Last week a greenie had this crack at me in the Townsville paper.

    Retired fire chiefs spot on over climate change
    TONY TSIMBAS
    THE recent horrific bushfires should be a clarion call for action but instead we have continued government indifference to climate change and the likes of (Cardimona) (TB, 12/11) deliberately muddying the waters.
    We’ve heard it all before. Blame the Greens, the Left, inner-city elites, etc.
    (Cardimona) would have us believe that temperature is not the driving force behind these fires. As a retired fire incident commander, surely he realises that heat causes evaporation, which leads to dryness, which leads to bushfires.
    Right now we have unprecedented dryness, high temperatures and longer fire seasons. Some rainforests are burning for the first time. But according to (Cardimona), this has nothing to do with climate change.
    Should we believe him? Or should we believe the 23 retired fire chiefs who say climate change is supercharging our natural disaster risks, and the 11,000 climate scientists who say we are facing a climate emergency?
    Australia’s climate response is among the worst in the G20. Yet we have one of the best wind and solar potentials of any nation.
    Why aren’t we exploiting this? How can we face our children if we continue with such indifference?
    As Greta Thunberg said: “We won’t let you get away with it.”
    We are in serious trouble.

    So I returned fire with a 584 word rebuttal, of which the editors snipped about 125 words.
    Which is fine; it’s their ink.

    Extremes are normal
    (CARDIMONA)
    FIRE SEASON: Rising temperatures are not to blame for bushfires, says a correspondent. Picture: FILE
    TONY Tsimbas (TB, 15/11), despite the bloviations of the ahistorical hystericals, the truth remains incontrovertible – there is nothing “dangerous” or “manmade” or even unusual happening with either the weather patterns or the fire season. We’ve seen it all before.
    Yes, warmer weather causes more evaporation, it always has and it always will. But that evaporated water becomes atmospheric water vapour and forms clouds which reflect sunlight for a cooling effect.
    Those clouds eventually condense into rain which releases the latent heat of evaporation near the top of the atmosphere for a further cooling effect. The rain then cools the surface where it happens to fall.
    Water, especially around the hot and watery equator, is Earth’s automatic thermostat which always has and always will prevent “catastrophic overheating”, regardless of what wrongologists blather about to further their political ends.
    Earth is, after all, a water planet with 71 per cent of its surface covered with water.
    The more solar heat the Earth’s surface absorbs the more evaporation, clouds and rainfall results.
    Rainfall patterns do change and at the moment the east coast of Australia is dry due to the effects of the northern Indian Ocean Dipole. It will change and the flooding rains will come back, just like they always have.
    The bushfires are the consequence of the fuel load, not the temperature.
    The retired fire chiefs made me laugh out loud; how can fire chiefs be credible under lefty logic when by definition they’re not climate scientists?
    As to the now-debunked “11,000 scientists” paper, it was an opinion piece, not a research paper, and the signatories weren’t the much-venerated “climate scientists” that lefties love to love.
    Meanwhile, in the real world, the solar cycle continues and the sun’s electromagnetic emissions are approaching the low end of their scale.
    The sun has been sunspot free for much of this year.
    This is already showing up as record cold and snow in the northern hemisphere.
    And yes, global cooling from diminished solar input will lead to more drought, such as the 22-year drought in the 1500s (during the Little Ice Age) as Professor Pitman’s studies have revealed via geological proxy temperature records.
    As usual, atmospheric CO2 will have nothing to do with it.
    We have been led so far astray by foam-flecked greenleft alarmism that we’ve wasted billions building useless shortlived windmills when what we actually need are huge new dams and new coal and nuclear power stations.
    To survive weather extremes, be they hot or cold, wet or dry, we need advanced technology and cheap energy.
    This is the opposite of what the Malthusian Luddites of the extreme-green totalitarian global-socialist crony-capitalists have delivered.
    So yes, Tony Tsimbas, we will remember and we won’t let you get away with it.

  202. Geriatric Mayfly

    I’ll add that their drinking water contains 0.04 mg/L of uranium according to the linked report.
    By comparison the average amount of uranium in dirt is 2 mg/kg.

    This will not calm the hysteria BoN you are merely splitting atoms.

  203. Nick

    Oh, Greens think radioactivity is bad? I’ll believe it when they stop travelling by air.

  204. Confused old misfit:

    The Fleurieu is MINE!

    Suuure it is.
    Would you like it to glow in the dark?
    Doing a special in a few months time.

  205. Leigh Lowe

    The lack of understanding of radiation levels shits me.
    Arts grads go into a head-spin over a report like the NT water thing, but when you start talking about naturally occuring background radiation and other man made sources in a modern industrialised society, the heads starting tilting 20 degrees to starboard.
    You then get that sceptical look and you know the next vomit that will come out is condescending advice not to swallow lies from Big Mining.

  206. rickw

    Possibly holding the world’s most dangerous job, President Trump’s food tester was reported stricken with severe symptoms of food poisoning. President Trump undergoing tests at a military hospital.

    The Left are really itching for that Civil War that they haven’t got a snowflakes chance of winning.

    Really is a battle between good and evil. When was the last time a US Presidents food tester got poisoning?

  207. EvilElvis

    Yep I used to live there for a while and have conducted many tours around the joint.
    Fascinating as to what is lying in the Mud, and the stories of evacuees from Dutch Indonesia who were landing there.
    Broome’s OK to visit but living there, no way.
    The hippy left wing abo militancy is strong, the Japoriginals think they are town royalty (the Pigram Clan for eg) and that bloody expensive it’s not worth contemplating.
    Cable beach virtually gets stingers year round.
    etc etc.

    The Carnarvon of the north. I’d rather live in Marble Bar.

  208. Roger

    Australia’s climate response is among the worst in the G20. Yet we have one of the best wind and solar potentials of any nation. Why aren’t we exploiting this? How can we face our children if we continue with such indifference?

    For argument’s sake…

    What does he suggest we do?

    Deindustrialise?

    It would have next to no impact upon the planet’s climate but it would have a very significant impact on our quality of life.

  209. custard

    Cardimona, your letter writing is legendary stuff.

    And Elvis I agree with you about Broome. A shithole that I won’t be visiting again any time soon.

  210. Leigh Lowe

    I assume those getting excited over miniscule amounts of uranium in drinking water would, of course, refuse to have a CT scan or dental x-ray.

  211. Knuckle Dragger

    Trump’s lasagne taster’s crook.

    That’ll teach him to leave millions upon billions of Syrians and their pets and other cuddly animals to certain death.

    Worst POTUS ever.

    /Delcon

  212. Leigh Lowe

    And Elvis I agree with you about Broome. A shithole that I won’t be visiting again any time soon.

    Even without the shithole factor, any holiday from Broome around to Cape York is frighteningly expensive.
    I assume it is ridiculous penalty rates and tribal ticket-clipping which does it.
    We could go to Japan for what it costs to go to Broome and/or Kakadu.

  213. Snoopy

    Possibly holding the world’s most dangerous job, President Trump’s food tester

    I’ll bet the poor bastard is sick of tomato ketchup.

  214. Leigh Lowe:
    This is a PDF of the Cobalt 60 contaminated steel used to build a series of apartments in Taiwan. Very instructive.

    Approximately 10,000 people occupied these buildings and received an average radiation dose of 0.4 Sv, unknowingly, during a 9-20 year period. They did not suffer a higher incidence of cancer mortality, as the LNT theory would predict. On the contrary, the incidence of cancer deaths in this population was greatly reduced – to about 3 per cent of the incidence of spontaneous cancer death in the general Taiwan public. In addition, the incidence of congenital malformations was also reduced – to about 7 per cent of the incidence in the general public. These observations appear to be compatible with the radiation hormesis model.

  215. Geriatric Mayfly

    When was the last time a US Presidents food tester got poisoning?

    None of them tried any fancy stuff from Pocahontas’s’ Pow Chow Cook Book.

  216. Snoopy

    I assume it is ridiculous penalty rates and tribal ticket-clipping which does it.

    Not to mention local labour market failure *cough* which means employers have to fly in and accommdate staff. Usually backpackers.

  217. Tintarella di Luna

    Cardimona you are a legend thanks for your persistence and perseverance

  218. Geriatric Mayfly

    The exclusion zone at Chernobyl has seen the re-emergence of many animals in the wild, previously absent because of human proximity. None seem to be reported as being deficient and reproduction must be going gangbusters. Although Big Boy exploded above Hiroshima and not at ground level, you would still expect radiation around or above 0.04mg/Kg to be crippling the population.

  219. Rex Mango

    Wouldn’t it be simple to test airline pilots for cancer rates v general population, to show a link to cancer from radiation?

  220. RobK

    Cardimona,
    Excellent letter. There was only one sentence I saw that might benefit from a tweek:
    The bushfires are the consequence of the fuel load.” Might have more impact if it went something like:
    “The catastrophic and uncontrollable nature of these bushfires is a consequence of excessive fuel load.”
    If more emphasis is needed, a follow on might go:” at a certain critical mass of fuel a wild fire creates its own local conditions with explosive radiation and hurricane draughts. The idea is to prevent these monsters developing when ambient conditions are difficult. It has little to do with weather or CO2.”
    You do a great job Cardimona.

  221. cohenite

    T

    op Ender
    #3215907, posted on November 19, 2019 at 5:20 pm
    A vision of what might happen in some of our more woke Green states and territories – experience Dubai when the electricity failed…

    And this is why the greens should be ground into fertilizer; and why you should be prepared when the power does go off.

  222. Rex Mango

    ABC RN Law Report had show tonight about Akon Guode, the South Somalian reffo who drove car into lake in Vic 2015 killing 3 of her 4 kids onboard. Very sad case and she had her initial 26 year sentence reduced on appeal, but now awaiting High Court decision. ABC were pushing that because one of the children was an infant, she should have been charged with 3 counts of infanticide (max 5yrs), rather than one infanticide & 2 murders. The show also approvingly noted that fathers who kill their kids have the book thrown, to set an example. Not much self awareness at the ABC.

  223. Bruce of Newcastle

    Wouldn’t it be simple to test airline pilots for cancer rates v general population, to show a link to cancer from radiation?

    The problem with that Rex is what Winston pointed out. The empirical data shows that modest radiation exposure is protective, not harmful. This is called hormesis. The biochemistry of the body gets primed against DNA damage and fixes it.

    Consequentially the greens don’t want to mention such things because it would negate their doctrine that all radioactivity is evil. Which is political and unscientific, but supports their antinuke platform.

  224. Geriatric Mayfly

    Ho. Hum. ( “De-transitioner” add it to that alphabet.)

    This week, de-transitioner Walt Heyer shared the harrowing story of a 19-year-old man who thought he was a woman and described his new “female” anatomy in revealing terms.
    Less than a year after receiving “bottom surgery” — removing his male genitals and replacing them with a simulated female version — 19-year-old Nathaniel deeply regrets his decision.
    “Now that I’m all healed from the surgeries, I regret them,” he wrote to Heyer. “The result of the bottom surgery looks like a Frankenstein hack job at best, and that got me thinking critically about myself. I had turned myself into a plastic-surgery facsimile of a woman, but I knew I still wasn’t one. I became (and to an extent, still feel) deeply depressed.”

  225. Overburdened

    In response to Des Deskpersons valid question regarding how the nations broadcaster chooses their stars, the major criteria are to be superficially totally inoffensive, somewhat house trained and a complete fuckwit.

  226. Overburdened

    …it’s stars…

  227. Des Deskperson

    ‘Desky, I might be mistaken, but is Mzzz Warhurst’s daddy an ANU academic?’

    Leigh, I thought so too, and it is a reasonable working hypotheses that anyone of the same name working in or across Australian media, arts, academia and/or politics are related.

    However, I can find no evidence of a connection in this case. John is from Adelaide and worked at UNE Armidale before coming to ANU. Myf was born in Portland, Victoria.

    A friend of mine knows John and avers that he is not only very sound academically, but a lovely bloke, decent, kind and generous. On the other hand, he’s not not the sort of person you would maybe want to sit next to on a longish bus trip.

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