The espionage crisis

A week after Paul Keating mocked democracy and accused Australia’s intelligence agencies and journalists of conspiring to invent espionage claims against China, charges of Beijing-ordered murder and an attempt to install a Chinese agent in federal parliament have been aired tonight by 60 Minutes. ASIO has confirmed the latter is being investigated. Meanwhile, one possible orchestrator of assassination – Wang Liqiang – has sought political asylum after making a sworn statement to ASIO about his alleged activities on Australian soil. China has already dismissed Mr Wang as a fraudster. They could hardly say anything else. The second bookend to this diplomatic and national security crisis – Keating’s speech to the Australian Strategic Forum last Monday being the other – is an interview with outgoing ASIO chief Duncan Lewis to be published this week in Quarterly Essay. Reports say he will accuse the Chinese government of using “insidious” interference operations to “take over” Australia’s political system. The timing of these events is interesting to say the least.

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50 Responses to The espionage crisis

  1. BorisG

    I understand that the Aus government says they will try to separate fact from fiction. There is no doubt that China would like to take over the Australian political system. Moreover they would like to make it a Chinese province. However it appears to be doing it strategically and over a long haul. I somehow doubt that their plans include assassinations and some such, if only because such actions may undermine the very strategic goal they are trying to achieve. Or are they learning from Mr. Putin? I think they are wiser than that.

  2. PeteD

    It seems that they have overreached in Taiwan and Hong Kong.

    Taiwan was tentatively swinging towards pro-China candidates, only for President Xi back in January to blow hard about taking over.

    And we all know that they pushed too hard in Hong Kong. Now HKs Council Elections have 70% turnout (up 20% on last time.)

    Surprisingly, free people don’t like being told what to do.

  3. struth

    Arrogance is a Chinese Quality.
    How smart are socialists, really?
    Driven with the energy of insanity, hate, and envy, this clouds any smarts in the long run.
    They end up pushing too fast, as they are doing now.
    The non brainwashed generations haven’t completely died off yet.

  4. Up The Workers!

    Six steamed Dim Sams and one Lizard of Oz in Black Bean sauce please.

    That familiar old Soy-Boy, the loathsome Lizard of Oz is just as reliable and patriotically pro-Australian as ever.

    Not only can the A.L.P. not correctly spell the second word in their Party name (despite having had 100 years to correct their spelling error), the first word in their Party name is utterly redundant.

    Perhaps they should be the C.L.P.?

  5. Shy Ted

    Chinese agent in Fed Parl? Who did they replace Sam Dastyari with?

  6. Karabar

    In the 1990’s in Canada, the Red Chinese infiltrated the Canadian government all the way up to the Prime Minister.
    https://canadafreepress.com/2005/cover012605.htm
    Then the RCMP and CSIS created the report known as “Operation Sidewinder”.
    After a flurry of drama, it was mysteriously shelved.
    It is probably safe to assume that the same degree of infiltration was occurring in Australia.

  7. RobK

    Im not sure that this can be characterised as a crisis at this stage. I doubt our spooks were spooked. The only thing is we have a defector for the media and the public to mull over. We have a lot of foreign nationals, even enclaves of them. I doubt the claims constitute a surprise to our intelligence agencies however, they have a job on their hands. I recall the embarrassment of our new spy building in canberra having had its plans stolen before it was even finished (that’s a crisis). China was suspected. Only the naive would be surprised by the asylum seekers claims. How genuine he is a separate mater. I wouldn’t like to be in his shoes. Our spooks may be in for a funding boost.
    Keating has disgraced himself yet again. Many seem to lap it up.

  8. Mother Lode

    But this just proves Keating’s point, you scumbags!

    Look at the confusion and uncertainty this will introduce!

    Much better for everyone if this information was simply kept to those who need it and the ordinary folk just busy themselves with supplying the state with their labour and obedience.

  9. RobK

    As a side note; the climate crisis is a vector well utilised by the Chinese Government to its economic and international political advantage. I also note that Maurice Strong was an immense Sinophile. I don’t think the coincidence is random.

  10. mh

    We could see both Paul Keating and Katherine Keating investigated in the next few months.

    Good times.

  11. Chris M

    China tried to get a man into parliament… so Wong isn’t manly enough? And Sam? Wow, they must want a real he-man!

  12. A Lurker

    Something else springs to mind…

    All those Confucius Institutes in our universities, and also that so many universities declined to host the Ramsay Centre’s Western Civilization study program.

  13. C.L.

    I see The Australian’s main page is low-balling the story this morning.
    But there is this:
    Ugly side of Hong Kong’s ‘democracy heroes’

  14. Hugh

    Is Keating’s kow-tow to China his greatest stuff-up since compulsory super?

  15. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    A large chicom diaspora with relatives, parents etc back home is open to blackmail and hence working with the CCP to further its aims.

    We need to urgently rethink mass migration.

  16. Minderbinder of QLD

    How come the Australian AG Department has not written to P Keating demanding all his emails, and other correspondence with any Chinese Organisation, (with the threat of jail time for non compliance), and thus requiring him to register as the agent of a foreign power? Could there be any protection racket in play here?

  17. Dr Fred Lenin

    As long as there are Aldi bags full of cash and corrupt career politicians security is a joke .
    We would be shocked if we had full access to ASIO files, Chines Security People are modelled on the old KGB and they were very good . Thats a problem of a democratic country the enemies security is nit constrained by lawyers and courts ,none of that nonsense for the communist fascists .

  18. Up The Workers!

    What’s the big fuss lately about the Chinese spies in our Federal Parliament?

    The Parliamentary careers of Paul Cheating, Chinless Bob the Unroadworthy Carr and Dim Sam Dastyari are no secrets.

    Parliamentary Soy Boys!

  19. Howard Hill

    Just a reminder, they were still pushing the Trump Russia collusion crap. I switched it off at that point. Anyway our whole parliament is filled with Chicom spies and sympathisers, commies don’t grow on trees ya know?

  20. Roger

    We need to urgently rethink mass migration.

    You mean colonisation.

  21. struth

    Right now, UN global Socialists and Chinese commos are running amok.

    We may have one or two spies in our parliament already.
    But when the whole parliament, including the PM are subservient to them, then it’s just a secondary problem.
    The Chicoms and UN global socialists needn’t do the barking when our own parliamentary dogs will do it for them.
    Having spies to spy on the most stupid, arrogant dumb, immoral bunch of retards Australia can produce is only for entertainment value, surely, as the Parliament don’t run the deep state anyway.

    Has the “immigration” invasion of millions stopped?
    Have we pulled out of Paris?
    The wilful destruction of our power while the get us to pay for the destruction in our power bills> Has that stopped?
    Has the safe schools and early childhood sexual abuse and socialist brainwashing of our children been stopped, or anything done at all about the child abuse of telling our kids we are going to all die of Climate change if the west isn’t destroyed?
    Has the BOM even been given a “please explain”?

    Nothing but the agenda of UN 2030 and the will of the Chinese is being imposed on this county already.
    I’d be surprised if most of our pollies aren’t on the gravy train of corruption.

    Sco Mo, a UN cock slobberra and western apologist, the only man Turnbull would stand down for, is a disaster for Australia at this moment, in our ongoing re written history.

  22. Roger

    At the 2017 Victorian Liberal Party conference, the party’s Eastern Multicultural Branch, of which Ms [Gladys] Liu was the president, proposed a motion that would make foreign investment in agribusiness and agricultural land easier without approval by the Foreign Investment Review Board.

    It also accused public attitudes toward foreign investment as being driven by xenophobia.

    Full report here.

  23. tombell

    just as well David Combe was only a Soviet stooge. We wouldn’t want any Chinese stooges in the parliament lol. Why are the chattering classes obsessed with Russia but couldn’t appear to give two hoots about the Middle Kingdom? Cui bono maybe Mr Keating?

  24. Chris M

    Why are the chattering classes obsessed with Russia but couldn’t appear to give two hoots about the Middle Kingdom?

    Russians = white
    Chinese = asian

    You racist /s

  25. dover_beach

    It also accused public attitudes toward foreign investment as being driven by xenophobia.

    The suite of ‘phobias’ are designed to malign any opposition to immigration, politicized homosexuality, gender ideology, and the like.

  26. Dr Faustus

    We have a lot of foreign nationals, even enclaves of them. I doubt the claims constitute a surprise to our intelligence agencies however, they have a job on their hands.

    I have spent a fair part of the last decade working with Chinese companies in Australia. I am very far from an expert on spookdom, but you can be sure that:

    a) They have intelligence officers embedded in their organisations – you can recognise them by the individuals having no idea at all about their official technical function. They are the “This is Mr Wang he is IT specialist” who sits silently through one meeting on IT matters – and thereafter is never seen again. When you get to know your Chinese colleagues socially, they will gossip and chit chat about others in their working group – but you will also find that they never refer to ‘Mr Wang’ – at all.

    b) Most of the senior staff are members of the CPC and are duty bound to perform any function or task required by Central Government without question. You can sometimes recognise the sudden arrival of Beijing policy by seemingly illogical and contradictory behaviour, sometimes accompanied by embarrassment and confusion. These make up a cohort of auxiliary agents – all motivated by career consequences, if not ideology.

    Nothing surprising, or particularly hidden here. So, you can also be certain that the Australian intelligence agencies have a detailed understanding of how this all works.

    Which makes Keating’s patriotic defence of the Middle Kingdom particularly uplifting.

  27. Roger

    Faustus’s a) & b) are practical applications of the first princiuple of “Xi Jinping Thought”:

    Ensure Communist Party of China leadership over all forms of work in China.

  28. stackja

    KGB in Australia was never explained. PLA in Australia being covered?

  29. RobK

    Then there’s the Darwin Harbour fiasco.

  30. Fisky

    Hurrah for “free trade”!

  31. Fisky

    Why are the chattering classes obsessed with Russia but couldn’t appear to give two hoots about the Middle Kingdom?

    Because most (but not all) PRC political interference has generally been to the benefit of Labor and the US Dems.

  32. Snoopy

    Why are the chattering classes obsessed with Russia but couldn’t appear to give two hoots about the Middle Kingdom?

    Cantonese food is much better than boiled cabbage and potatoes?

  33. Boambee John

    My comment from the other China thread.

    Two points.

    First, whatever his (many) other failings, Clive Hamilton is looking very prescient right now.

    Second, we have already had Shanghai Sam, but we need either to go back to the old transliteration for Peking Paul, or transliterate his name to Beijing Baul.

  34. Boambee John

    Using the current transliteration, Beijing Boob Carr?

  35. Des Deskperson

    ‘How come the Australian AG Department has not written to P Keating demanding all his emails, and other correspondence with any Chinese Organisation, (with the threat of jail time for non compliance), and thus requiring him to register as the agent of a foreign power? Could there be any protection racket in play here?’

    The AG’s guidelines on the categories of those who need to register under the Scheme come close to including Keating by name:

    ‘activities undertaken by former Cabinet Ministers on behalf of foreign principles.

    So If Keating hasn’t registered, he’s either very stupid or very brazen.

    And if the Government therefore hasn’t made an issue of it, it is also very stupid

  36. Finally – Duncan Lewis coming up with the goods.

  37. stackja

    The Battle of Kapyong forgotten?

  38. Tim Neilson

    And if the Government therefore hasn’t made an issue of it, it is also very stupid

    From the day the Photios Party dumped Abbott for Mick Trumble (if not before) “government” has been a wholly owned subsidiary of “very stupid”.

  39. C.L.
    #3244213, posted on November 25, 2019 at 8:50 am

    I see The Australian’s main page is low-balling the story this morning.
    But there is this:
    Ugly side of Hong Kong’s ‘democracy heroes’

    So basically the Australian is running fascist propaganda for the ruling class in China?

    If only MacArthur dropped another “mandate from heaven”.

    The cucking started with Truman.

  40. thefrollickingmole

    a) They have intelligence officers embedded in their organisations

    Just an anecdote..

    We had an unfortunate Chinese fishing vessel (mother ship and a few smaller ones) picked up for illegal fishing and it was decided we would warehouse all 100+ of them at the Port Hedland detention center.

    We very quickly found out who was in charge and it wasnt the captain. Even at that level there was a “political” boss on board.
    Poor captain was like a whipped dog, I have a very good idea who was going to be blamed for them being caught.

  41. Roger

    A Chinese journalist/researcher just stated on The Dumb that she talked to a CCP official who admitted they stuffed up their handling of Sam Dastyari.

    They should have waited until he was a minister in a Labor government before exercising their control over him.

    Paul Keating is unavailable for comment.

  42. Roger

    So If Keating hasn’t registered, he’s either very stupid or very brazen.

    And if the Government therefore hasn’t made an issue of it, it is also very stupid

    We await an urgent investigative report by an Australian journalist…

  43. Richard Bender

    Remember last time Channel 9 tried to smear someone with the Chinese agent tag? They couldn’t even defend a defamation action where they had to establish on the balance of probabilities only that what they said was true. But yet we all rush to believe them again? Oh, and I note that coward Andrew Hastie has still not repeated his allegations against the some person outside of Parliament.

    Once upon a time these sorts of smears and plays for power by unaccountable security agencies would have been in the gunsights of libertarians. Now we’re all disciples of the great authoritarian Trump, I guess anything goes.

  44. pbw

    Roger,

    The Thought of Chairman Xi is like the noonday sun, where the Thought of Chairman Mao was the morning sun rising in the East! How glorious is the Thought of Chairman Xi! How glorious is the Thought of Chairman Mao!

    Look to Mao Zedung Thought to see how far Xi Jinping Thought will carry all the peoples of the world!

    (Pay no attention to that capitalist roader behind the curtain.)

  45. Fisky

    Once upon a time these sorts of smears and plays for power by unaccountable security agencies would have been in the gunsights of libertarians. Now we’re all disciples of the great authoritarian Trump, I guess anything goes.

    It’s absolutely magnificent. All of the pro-CCP “libertarians” are being smoked out en masse. We are seeing the disintegration of the libertarian movement, and 2020 will be the end.

  46. C.L.

    Remember last time Channel 9 tried to smear someone with the Chinese agent tag? They couldn’t even defend a defamation action where they had to establish on the balance of probabilities only that what they said was true.

    Paul Monk at Quadrant:

    Another key suspect in that [nuclear weapons data theft] case was Wen Ho Lee. Lee worked in X Division at Los Alamos, the most highly sensitive part of the laboratory where America’s nuclear bombs have been designed ever since the Manhattan Project in the 1940s. He downloaded vast quantities of highly classified data without accounting for why; made trips to China about which he lied; made contact with Gwo-bao Min and lied about that; and yet when prosecuted for espionage was acquitted and apologised to by the trial judge, because the case could not be proven beyond reasonable doubt. He walked free, sued for damages and accepted $1,645,000 in an out-of-court settlement in 2006.

    I also recommend the (lengthy) article to anyone who doubts what’s going on.

    Clarke is a former special adviser on cyber security to President George W. Bush. Speaking at a conference on the subject last October, he stated that the Chinese have targeted every corporation in the USA, in Asia, in Germany. They are “using a vacuum cleaner to suck data out in terabytes and petabytes. I don’t think you can overstate the damage to this country that has already been done.” According to a Bloomberg editorial of mid-December last year, “The electronic theft of proprietary information from US companies has reached the level of grand larceny on a national scale. One declassified government estimate put the value of information stolen in the last year—everything from blueprints to merger plans—at almost $500 billion.” One specialist has described all this as the greatest illegal transfer of wealth in the form of intellectual property in history.

  47. stackja

    Mao established Red China. Most Western ‘elite’ we’re overjoyed. Of course we can always ‘trust’ Red China to do the ‘right thing’.

  48. Wonderful to see Rent Boy Paul getting the shoeing here, which he so richly deserves.

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