Boris and Brexit way ahead, at least for now

From POLL PREDICTS TORY SWEEP via MRP election poll: Boris Johnson heads for big majority. From the comments on the first of the links with the second comment particular apposite:

Okay, yellow is Scottish Nationalist, green is Liberal, and grey is Democratic Unionist. I think. I’m no expert on British politics.

The irony of London – perhaps the capital city of capitalism – voting overwhelmingly for a Marxist who admires Venezuela.

They really would sell the rope that would be used to hang them.

SO LET ME ADD THIS AS WELL: From Brexit Ho! by John O’Sullivan.

After two weeks of Britain’s election campaign, which now has less than three weeks to run, the lack of excitement over its result is palpable. The national polls have been more or less steady since the starting gun was fired, with the Tories hovering around 40 percent support, Labour rising slightly to 30 percent, the Liberal Democrats stuck around 16 percent, and the Brexit party falling to single figures. The weekend saw a slight strengthening of all these trends, with the Tory percentage settling down in the mid-40s, for a lead over Labour of well into double figures. If repeated on Election Day, that would produce a solid Tory majority of about between 40 and 60 seats. As the pundits say, however, these figures could all change very rapidly under the influence of events.

No certainty anywhere.

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26 Responses to Boris and Brexit way ahead, at least for now

  1. thefrollickingmole

    London is no longer an English city.

    Hasnt been for at least a decade..

    Oh and Corbyn will “win” with a ratbag coalition…

  2. davo

    Yep,London is a very different place to 20 years ago. Felt like a foreign country to me when last there…thats why much of the rest of the country was up for Brexit.

    Same thing will happen in Australia with our government using immigration to pretend all is well with the economy. People start to get sick of it? Don’t cut immigration as its worth too much economic activity, just send them to regions where they are not seen by as many people. Disgusting politics

  3. Infidel Tiger

    London is full of foreigners and a despised “elite” who live in a gated world, that makes them either impervious to or scornful of the rest of the country.

    If the Luftwaffe ever return to finish what they started. we must let them do their best.

  4. Mother Lode

    The irony of London – perhaps the capital city of capitalism – voting overwhelmingly for a Marxist who admires Venezuela.

    People get wealthy enough and have such leisure that they forget what it is that makes them wealthy and gives them leisure. Then they succumb to an anti-wealth socialist chic because they think things can never go backwards.

    They should be bulldozed into pits and have cement poured in on top of them.

    Future generations can dig them up, extricate them from the cement, and use the sandpaper-like skin on their rigid and contorted bodies to scrape the space-barnacles off their starships.

  5. JohnJJJ

    The irony of London – perhaps the capital city of capitalism – voting overwhelmingly for a Marxist who admires Venezuela.
    They have the power. A capitalist system is high risk for the already wealthy. The way to cement your position once you have the power and wealth is to introduce socialism. Socialist politicians can always be bought as they don’t have any money. You keep the masses happy by giving away free stuff, the propaganda of care and sentimentalism and keeping them poor so they are never a threat.
    Pretty obvious.

  6. Lee

    People get wealthy enough and have such leisure that they forget what it is that makes them wealthy and gives them leisure. Then they succumb to an anti-wealth socialist chic because they think things can never go backwards.

    Then they think they will be protected when the longed-for revolution comes.

    History proves them wrong in nearly every case; in fact they are usually the first to face the literal chopping block.

  7. thefrollickingmole

    People get wealthy enough and have such leisure that they forget what it is that makes them wealthy and gives them leisure.

    Sara Hoyt has a good article making the point that because most luxury goods are now available to the middle classes the elite have taken political positioning as their new signifier of elite status.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baizuo

  8. I_am_not_a_robot

    The City sees Corbyn as the best hope for remaining tied to the EU in one way or another.
    The puzzle is why Corbyn is not implacably opposed to remaining in the EU that has ‘capitalism’ written into the treaties and constitution.

  9. thefrollickingmole

    The puzzle is why Corbyn is not implacably opposed to remaining in the EU that has ‘capitalism’ written into the treaties and constitution.

    To quote a lefty shithead.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2007-11-02/garrett-moves-to-clarify-change-everything-comment/714554

    Also the actual video of that appears to have been memory-holed, nothing on the first few pages of youtube and their ABc has lost them as well.

  10. Arky

    Farage’s retreat from some of the most Leave supporting electorates in the country has the following consequences:
    1. Polling is up shit creek, as many brexit voters have no one to vote for, a proportion of these will stay home.
    2. Come the next election, which might not be far off if the previous shizzmozzle is repeated, Farage will struggle to convince people that this time he is leading a real national party.
    3. The odds of an ongoing deadlock on Brexit or a “Brexit in name only” have risen to favourite position.

  11. C.L.

    … the lack of excitement over its result is palpable.

    The thing that strikes me about Brexit is how similar it is – in a way – to the Russia/Ukraine/impeachment saga in the US. It’s wearing, impenetrable and so complex that nobody understands all of the nuances anymore. Rightly or wrongly, people just want it to go away. They might not be outwardly excited but I think Britons and Americans are, deep down, very eager to vote and have their instinctive say.

  12. JohnJJJ

    History proves them wrong in nearly every case; in fact they are usually the first to face the literal chopping block.
    Wrong. The dumb ones are sacrificed, the smart ones just change their uniforms, join the party, pay the right people and keep on keeping on. The true fear of capitalism is the fluidity of wealth and therefore power. Once you got it, support socialism.

  13. Rococo Liberal

    I’m hoping Labour goes well under 200 seats. It’s very likely.
    The City went mad with joy when the You gov poll came out. So any talk about them wanting Corbin is utter crap.
    After Corbyn’s car crash interview with Neil and his lying press conference trying to pretend the taories are going to sell the NHS to Trump, lBour is finished as a contender.

  14. struth

    The closer you get to a city’s GPO then the more insulated and left wing the people become.

  15. Ian of Brisbane

    As an Aussie living in the UK who was surprised to find himself eligible to vote, the choice is lousy. I had wanted Boris to replace TM, and it happened, but he has promised a zero CO2 economy by some impossible date in the future.

    End of Boris, I will not be voting for this nonsense no matter who promises it. And there is no one else left worth voting for either.

  16. Nob

    I_am_not_a_robot
    #3247184, posted on November 28, 2019 at 5:42 pm
    The City sees Corbyn as the best hope for remaining tied to the EU in one way or another.
    The puzzle is why Corbyn is not implacably opposed to remaining in the EU that has ‘capitalism’ written into the treaties and constitution.

    The Guardian came out with lengthy articles tying themselves in knots explaining why nationalising everything wouldn’t be against EU rules.
    (Well, nationalising the railways again but next minute they’re blurring the lines and on about other utilities and services)

    Historically, hard left was against EU but they obviously think there’s mileage in contradictory positions and their voters seem oblivious, just Tory Man Bad.

  17. Michael Warren

    The irony of London – perhaps the capital city of capitalism – voting overwhelmingly for a Marxist who admires Venezuela.

    They know they’re chumps and they’re crying for help. They want a parent to step in an set boundaries for them.

  18. cuckoo

    The closer you get to a city’s GPO then the more insulated and left wing the people become.

    While not doubting the general truth of this statement, how many cities still have a GPO? Melbourne’s beautiful GPO long ago turned into a fashion retail centre now mostly full of cashed-up Chinese shoppers.

  19. Faye

    What’s the good of Boris winning with a Clayton’s Brexit – half in and half out – worse than now?

    I was so disappointed when Nigel gave up those seats just because Boris had conceded on the EU customs union and single market. The Brexit Party polling looks shocking. I do hope upon hope that the Brexit Party can get enough seats to become the balance of power “to change politics for good” but Boris looks supreme pollwise. I wonder what President Trump is saying to each man?

    Anyway, the BREXIT vote was STAY or LEAVE? Nothing else! For the politicians to make it otherwise is a bastardization.

    If Boris wins outright, then proceeds to bury Britain into an EU grave, then I hope the British people shut down Britain in protest.

  20. Rebel with cause

    how many cities still have a GPO?

    London hasn’t had a GPO since 1912.

  21. candy

    Boris Johnson seems a contradictory person.
    I don’t think we will know his true policies and goals until he is comfortably elected. He has taken the heat out of things though.
    He could go fairly left at any given time, I suspect, though.

  22. yarpos

    “The irony of London – perhaps the capital city of capitalism – voting overwhelmingly for a Marxist who admires Venezuela.’

    This is classic Maslow hierachy of needs stuff. They are so well of and have so little to worry about they tend towards making themselves appear virtuous and saving the world from imaginary demons. There isnt much else left to do.

  23. Beachcomber

    Boris Johnson …….. could go fairly left at any given time.

    He’s already there; a Merkelite globalist establishment swamp creature. If elected, he may turn out to be a bigger disaster than May-Hammond.

  24. The Sheriff

    Are there any constituency level polls where the Brexit Party is running hard to gauge whether they might score a few seats?

  25. BorisG

    The puzzle is why Corbyn is not implacably opposed to remaining in the EU that has ‘capitalism’ written into the treaties and constitution.

    He actually is, but he also does not want to openLy defy the will of the majority of Labor, who overwhelmingly voted remain.

  26. BorisG

    If elected, he may turn out to be a bigger disaster than May-Hammond.

    That’s not the question of the day. The question of the day if he can be worse than Corbyn.

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