Open Forum: November 30, 2019

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  1. feelthebern

    It’s 2019 & plastic shaming is a thing.

  2. Twostix

    Some anecdotes with three children in public primary:

    Our youngest’s kindergarten teacher cannot spell there is a spelling mistake on the whiteboard right now.

    Our second oldest is a bookworm and reads at an adult level. There is and always has been active suppresion of his reading and maths abilities. They just do not want to deal with it. Every year his new teacher is surprised at how well he reads and how good he is at maths and every year they promptly put him on the highest reading level as though it’s a grand achievement…which is still baby stuff for him. They then leave him to be bored all year.

    The “strategies” they teach for maths are literally retarded and cause all children to be bad at maths. We teach them the old ways and that fixes them immediately.

    They get marked less on answers but on how well they know the often buzarre “strategies”, we faught with a teacher last year over this.

    All three watch an amazing amount of cartoons, movies and youtube at school.

    All three are subjected to weekly doses of pedestrian faculty lounge leftwing dogma about abo’s, multiculturalism, the environment as well as having to navigate a labryinth of arcane rules and regulations that only make sense to bugmen administrators ( e.g technically brothers and sisters are banned from playing together at lunch).

    Thanks to sites like khan academy, reading eggs, starfall, etc we just educate them ourselves a few hours a week and treat school as a social outing.

    It’s a complete shitshow.

  3. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    They all get the same mediocre mark…

    That was precisely the aim as spelled to me and the rest of my class at the beginning of fourth year – senior high school (now year 11). That was in 1966. The teacher was about 30, and was the senior form master. He outranked all the other older teachers, by virtue of the fact that the rest of them had been busy, away fighting a war – male AND female.

    He was a homosexual and a communist, and over the next few years he recreated the school in his own, warped image. He was the seed, and he wasn’t alone and it was deliberate. And with the benefit of hindsight it is easy enough to accept that he and his ilk were the carefully laid foundation stones of the brainwashing propaganda disaster that now masquerades as “education” in this country today.

  4. struth

    Good Moaning.
    Last night numbers thought he, of all people, would gloat that I had left the scene when he presented a video of which I acknowledged, that caught Trump “lying” to the media.

    I then asked him, as I have done possibly hundreds of times now, to answer as to what makes a country socialist.
    He immediately ignored it………………………again.
    Hypocrisy so blatant and laughable that it is the reason to engage lefties.
    Just to witness the shallow, emotion driven responses and idiocy that comes from never questioning one’s own position, like weak members of a street gang doing whatever they are told to do, and saying whatever they are told to say, so long as they get to stay in the gang.

    To me, it’s fascinating to wonder how, if not for being tax eaters, these people could survive at all.

    This is a man who believes Norway is socialist while having private business ownership, yet the very same factor made the German National SOCIALISTS extreme right wing!
    And then expects us to take him seriously when he goes off on a rant blaming everyone else except for teachers for students not being taught anything except radical anti western socialism via cultural Marxist identity politics and envirosocialism.
    This from a self proclaimed communist who was in charge of educating children.
    We know where the problem lies, Sniffy, and you were part of it.

  5. Bruce of Newcastle

    Looks like the ordinary people of America have just voted with their trigger fingers.

    Gun Buyers on Cusp of Breaking All-Time Background Check Record (4 Dec)

    Gun buyers are currently on the cusp of breaking the record for the highest number of background checks conducted in one year’s time. …The FBI reports the number of checks for November 2019 was 2,574,752, an all-time record for the month of the November.

    ATF: 423 million guns in America, 1.2 per person, 8.1 billion rounds of ammo a year (4 Dec)

    What’s more, despite years of criticism of modern “assault-style” rifles such as the AR-15 and AK-47, there are a record 17.7 million in private hands, proving that it is the most popular gun around.

    Maybe that’s why the Dems are persisting with fake impeachment, as they certainly don’t have the firepower to do anything else.

  6. 1735099

    So says someone who’s not only retired but spent so much time at the low end of the spectrum that he has no idea at how badly the capable students are being hobbled, in the name of equity (and modern techniques).

    Name the “equity and modern techniques” that are “hobbling” kids with gifts and talents.
    In the nineties I spent five years with a regional portfolio responsibility for students with gifts and talents.
    The interventions that get the best out of these kids are not that much different than those that work for kids with disabilities.
    They include early identification, individualised curricula and mentoring.
    They do not involve total streaming, but a combination of some of that with inclusion with their age peers.
    Without that they run the risk of social isolation.
    The conventional age-based lock step organisation of most schools doesn’t suit them, just as it doesn’t suit many kids with disabilities.

  7. Top Ender

    What say you Bandana Man?

    Exiled Wallaby Israel Folau declares he has been vindicated by an apology and $8m settlement

    Israel Folau on Wednesday night declared he was vindicated by Rugby Australia’s dramatic cave-in, which included an apology to the former Wallaby and an $8 million settlement, calling into question the judgment of rugby boss Raelene Castle.

    Clarissa Bye, The Daily Telegraph

    Exiled Wallaby star Israel Folau said he felt ‘vindicated’ after extracting an apology and an $8 million payout from Rugby Australia in a settlement which on Wednesday ended his drawn-out legal battle with the sporting body which sacked him earlier this year.

    Rugby Australia apologised and was forced into an out-of-court settlement with the former Australia fullback, who was seeking $14 million compensation for his “wrongful termination” by the Aussie rugby union body over his April social media post saying hell awaits gay people.

    While the amount of money has not been disclosed, it is believed that after 14 hours of mediation the payout is believed to be $8 million.

    Daily Tele

  8. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Jason Momoa apologizes after plastic-shaming Chris Pratt: ‘Bro I love u but wtf’

    Jason Momoa’s Private Plane Made An Emergency Landing After Engine Fire Scare

  9. johanna

    Let’s be clear, in 1770s Europe and the UK 99% of the population was living hand to mouth and people lived in fear of being caught hungry.

    JC, as usual, lacks nuance.

    There were significant differences between regions in Europe. In Eastern Europe (and Scandinavia) the rural peasantry did it very hard, not least because of the harsh winters and short growing seasons. In the Netherlands, per capita income was a lot higher and there was a thriving middle class. In France, while monetary income was not high, those who lived in the south or near the sea could at least grow or catch enough food to survive reasonably well.

    As for the UK, it was and is one of the most unequal societies in modern history. At the height of the Empire, with rivers of gold flowing into the country every year, rural peasants and city industrial workers continued to live in appalling conditions, with infant/childhood mortality up to 30%.

    If you look at the massive mansions the British aristos built in the C18th and C19th, the attempts by modern plutocrats are like toytown. They cashed in big during the fat years, and very little of it trickled down. It was all about connections, and still is. Tony Blair’s father in law is getting almost a million quid a year from taxpayers for the wind turbines on his properties.

    That’s one of the reasons they ended up with the ghastly NHS. It was a massive reaction against a political culture which allowed sick people to go untreated if they were poor. It was also a reaction against the fact that one of the richest countries in history allowed most of the wealth to be siphoned off by the upper class, while the masses got nothing.

    And, even if European peasants had it tough, there was nevertheless a written language, a grasp of mathematics, and plenty of cultural doodads for the rich, like very highly developed music and fashion.

    I don’t think that you can compare ‘happiness’ or anything like that between cultures. It’s impossible. Every culture has its own definition.

  10. the payout is believed to be $8 million.

    Not a bad days work for expressing your religious beliefs.
    I pray it encourages others.

  11. Tel

    Let’s be clear, in 1770s Europe and the UK 99% of the population was living hand to mouth and people lived in fear of being caught hungry.

    In 1770 the typical adult in London consumed half a pint of gin every day, the children consumed slightly less. They were doing fine!

  12. pete m

    Probably less than 8 mil but a damn sight more than just his due wages for the year.

    What counted more though was the apology he cranked out of them.

    RA proved they were wrong.

    His apology was just a milksop to save total humiliation for them.

  13. dover_beach

    Twostix, are there none of those classical academies near you?

  14. 1735099

    Good Moaning.
    Last night numbers thought he, of all people, would gloat that I had left the scene when he presented a video of which I acknowledged, that caught Trump “lying” to the media.

    Poor old Struth – still smarting.
    Don’t worry, old mate, Trump caught lying is not exactly a rare phenomenon.

  15. Snoopy

    So Izzy upped his claim from $10 million to $14 million just so Raelene Castles could go on to claim she had saved RA $6 million?

    A real gent.

  16. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘fat, short haired dangly earringed puffer fish’

    Good work, Entropy. Perfect descriptor.

    Much as magistrates in this day and age insist they be referred to as ‘judge’, teachers are no longer content to be referred to as bog-standard ‘teachers’. Oh no. They’re ‘educators’.

    Which would be fine if they actually educate the kiddies, instead of lecturing them on ephemeral concepts like social justice, gender gaps, that (paradoxically) everyone is nonetheless equal, but whitey took the indig’s spaceships off them when they got here and how to tuck your penis causing the least offence to gender-transitioning British Bulldog team members.

    All run by the abovementioned pufferfish, who beset by their own inadequacy seek to project it onto generations of yoof just to make them feel better about themselves.

  17. Dr Faustus

    From Janet Albrechtson:

    Folau’s team could have called Qantas boss Alan Joyce too, to determine who was calling the shots, potentially encouraging RA to breach section 772 of the Fair Work Act, which prohibits an employer from sacking an employee for unlawful reasons, including a person’s religion.

    You can bet that there were firm instructions given to Team RA by one of its major sponsors that the Folau Imbroglio was not to go past court-ordered mediation. Not under any circumstances.

    And smart counsel for Folau would have used the proceeding to deliver a gypsies warning about the forthcoming discovery process, and the length of time that the Flying Leprechaun and chums would have to spend in cross examination.

  18. Mater

    Name the “equity and modern techniques” that are “hobbling” kids with gifts and talents.

    I explained the issue in my post, Bob. Please focus.

    In the nineties I spent five years with a regional portfolio responsibility for students with gifts and talents.

    How many years ago was that, Bob? You do the maths for me? Do you think things might have changed?
    We have myself, Entropy and Twostix (all still with school aged children) telling you what the problem is and yet you (retired and long since having kids at school) are questioning our observations. That is the arrogance attitude of the teaching fraternity* (“We know best”) which makes the problem impossible to solve…even if they wanted to.

    * Yes, I do realise that there still exists. Small, and declining, cadre of sensible and diligent teachers out there.

  19. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘What counted more though was the apology he cranked out of them.’

    Damn straight, pete m. The black-lipped pavlova monster would have dragged, screeching to that particular table like a cat being stuffed into a box.

    Apology and $8 mill out of pocket, Raelene or no apology and $14 mill? Hahahahahaaaaaaaaaa.

    And good old JuanGrigs estimated $200K. No worries. Just drop the 200 in that great big fuck-off bucket over there.

  20. Tel

    He was a homosexual and a communist, and over the next few years he recreated the school in his own, warped image. He was the seed, and he wasn’t alone and it was deliberate. And with the benefit of hindsight it is easy enough to accept that he and his ilk were the carefully laid foundation stones of the brainwashing propaganda disaster that now masquerades as “education” in this country today.

    It started with John Dewey teaching kids how to be illiterate. That was a generation earlier than what you experienced. It’s been going for a while … but the boomers were the generation that sat on their hands and did nothing. My generation at least started asking WTF is going on? That’s when the concept of having standardized tests finally got past the recalcitrant teacher’s unions and we could see the extent of the problem. That’s the first step to fixing things … admitting there’s a problem.

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/socialists-used-public-schools-to-destroy-literacy-in-america_3129084.html

  21. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    In 1770 the typical adult in London consumed half a pint of gin every day

    A habit that lasted well over a century. My great grandmother Lizzie, born around 1885, firmly believed (or so she said) that “a glass of gin a day kept your ‘water’ pure”. She actually used to have three or four – just to be on the safe side.

    She lasted until she was 98! Probably would have gone on longer, but she fell over and fractured her skull when she was 94. It was all downhill from there.

    Smoked two packets of unfiltered Camels a day, as well.

  22. Knuckle Dragger

    Oh, and Raelene:

    ‘I say good day to you sir, I said good day.’

    /FitzSnort

  23. Entropy

    One of the many things I despise about public transport is that the mental pygmies that design buses are incapable of thinking that seat at the back of the rear wheel arch needs to made six inches higher to give some leg room and not ha e people with their knees up to their chin. Can’t have it set higher than the seats behind it, that wouldn’t be egalitarian enough.

  24. Being the parent of two mathematically gifted children, I found that before either left primary school they had better math skills (and probably many other skills) than any of their teachers.
    The most common teacher reaction to this was to perceive the kids superior skill as a challenge to their authority. (you can’t have kids correcting the the teachers mistakes)
    Fortunately, both kids encountered a couple of good teachers and things worked out ok.

  25. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Raelene Castle should resign over diabolical Israel Folau disaster

    wiminsis in power, what could possibly go wrong

  26. min

    It has been reported that Sydney Council ‘s air travel has increased 40 % however as a lot if it was financed by donations ,the only travel costs to appear on annual report do not amount to the actual cost of travel . Some smart journo has investigated and produced the amount of emissions and fossil fuels etc that occurred as a result.
    I am now thinking that if the figures put out by Angus Taylor’s office were what the cost of their travel was rather than who was responsible for paying it and to demonstrate just how hypocritical it is to claim a climate emergency and hide the extent of their travel .

  27. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘admitting there’s a problem.’

    Step One.

    In there somewhere there’s another Step which involves fronting the people you’ve hurt and apologising to them.

    Can’t wait for that one, ‘educators’.

  28. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    the boomers were the generation that sat on their hands and did nothing.

    The boomers were the generation that didn’t even realise anything was going on until the late Eighties. By then it was too little, too late.

    In contrast to those that followed, perfectly epitomised by this blog, who have never done anything about anything, and have no intention of ever starting. Not now or in the future.

    Except whinge of course, at which activity they excel.
    Again, Exhibit A – this blog.

  29. Entropy

    I would not be surprised if some backgrounded journo (Fairfax of course) comes out and days, it’s not $8 m! It’s closer to $5 m! So there!

  30. Entropy

    I wish Falou would use his win to buy the house next door to Fitzsimian and moves in with all his relatives.
    And starts holding church services there.

  31. Bruce of Newcastle

    Amazing how this keeps on happening.

    Jeffrey Epstein’s Long-Time Banker Found Dead From Hanging, Immediately Ruled a ‘Suicide’

    Corporate banker Thomas Bowers, who ran the U.S. division of private wealth management for Deutsche Bank AG, reportedly committed suicide last month at the age of 55 by hanging himself with a rope in his California residence.

  32. Knuckle Dragger

    Just before I wander off to kransky land:

    This entire shit show began, from my perspective at least when teachers started trapping off to kids that they had rights, that they could leave at 15 and get paid by the gummint for doing so. Naturally, this ended up with enterprising kiddies and hairy-legged notionally female paralegals suing their own parents for human rights violations.

    Of course, if you give kids a choice they will do the bare minimum to get by. Ask any parent of a kid in his/her mid teens who’s asked them to clean their room, do the dishes or sweep the floor.

    In Year 9 my mates and I has a competition at the start of the year to see who could do the least work in English and still pass, once we’d worked out the teacher was a lady* flake. I won with one-half of one page of written work for the year, and still got an A because I was polite (on purpose, playing the long game) and only fucked around half the time instead of all of it.

    This is simple, and has nothing to do with kids’ feelz. ‘You are here to learn. You need to learn in order to be a productive member of society. If you want to learn we will help as much as we can. If not you can fuck off. Here’s a shovel, which you’ll need until you’re 67.’

    *Aside from the odd Christian Brother in later years, I can remember just the solitary male teacher who wasn’t a scrawny, whining twill-clad imbecile frightened of thunder.

  33. Mater

    Name the “equity and modern techniques” that are “hobbling” kids with gifts and talents.

    Ok, Bob. Let’s just start with an entree.
    Victoria has adopted High Impact Teaching Strategies (HITS).
    So let’s look at the 10 ‘strategies’:

    – Setting goals.
    – Structuring lessons.
    – Explicit teaching.
    – Worked examples.
    Collaborative learning.
    – Multiple exposures.
    – Questioning.
    – Feedback.

    So you go from being shown how to do it, straight into putting most of your effort into dragging others along, rather than consolidating what you’ve just learnt.

    They do this shit in MBA courses on the theory that working as a group in the workplace environment is a necessary evil. Dubious, but understandable.
    Doing it when the kids are trying to learn the basics, is misguided (to put it lightly).

  34. johanna

    Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault
    #3252509, posted on December 5, 2019 at 8:42 am

    In 1770 the typical adult in London consumed half a pint of gin every day

    A habit that lasted well over a century. My great grandmother Lizzie, born around 1885, firmly believed (or so she said) that “a glass of gin a day kept your ‘water’ pure”. She actually used to have three or four – just to be on the safe side.

    She lasted until she was 98! Probably would have gone on longer, but she fell over and fractured her skull when she was 94. It was all downhill from there.

    Smoked two packets of unfiltered Camels a day, as well.

    Now, there’s a woman whose genes one would covet.

    Hey, Peter, hope that you and Boofhead are bumbling along comfortably together. Sorry to hear that you had to spend time in hospital recently – hospital is no place for someone who is not feeling well.

    I wrote recently about the boozing habits of the British upper middle class, as described by Gladys Mitchell in her crime novels. Another thing she mentioned, in her classic The Saltmarsh Murders in the 1930s, was that farm workers could expect at least a third of their children not to reach adulthood.

    All of those BBC period shows with pert housemaids and gnarled sons of the soil obscure the ugly truth.

  35. struth

    Poor old Struth – still smarting.
    Don’t worry, old mate, Trump caught lying is not exactly a rare phenomenon.

    Hey, I’m fine with it.
    Do you possibly understand why I did that last night?
    It’s about facts, and you are avoiding them.
    I, on the other hand, when confronted by evidence, make my mind up that yes, he was lying.

    This is the very stark difference in left to right thinking and it’s on display here for all to see.
    You are showing an extremely low level of integrity, and teenage like obfuscation, looking for the tribal win, regardless of facts ,while I’ll see facts and acknowledge them.
    You are more astounded that I accept he was lying and that makes it harder for you.
    I am a right wing man and facts matter.
    Studying facts makes everyone’s lives better and that’s how you get better social outcomes.
    It’s called being a responsible adult and not a virtue signalling destroyer of civilisation.

    Man up Sniffy, and tell us all what makes a country socialist and what doesn’t, and then try to align those with your belief that NAZI Germany was right wing.
    It’s not how you feel you want the facts to be.
    Facts are facts.
    So step up……………………………………we’re waiting.

  36. Knuckle Dragger

    *had a competition*

    Like I said, an A in English.

  37. cohenite

    Schools are failing because education is the vanguard of leftie social engineering. Hence claims by educationists that maths is racist and everything has to be filtered through the eyes of disadvantaged groups and the introduction of social issues, particularly alarmism. Now we have moves to introduce 29th nations mathematics.

    It’s just Gramsci at work.

    I see Izzy’s payout is in the 8 mill bucks range. I suppose we’ll see the weird thing that runs ARU going for a hand-out from the poof. I wonder if pirate pete will apologise for his $2ook bullshit still being pedalled in the fuckedfacts rags this morning.

    Great toons Tom!

  38. areff

    Our second oldest is a bookworm and reads at an adult level. There is and always has been active suppresion of his reading and maths abilities. They just do not want to deal with it. Every year his new teacher is surprised at how well he reads and how good he is at maths and every year they promptly put him on the highest reading level as though it’s a grand achievement…which is still baby stuff for him. They then leave him to be bored all year.

    Fruit of my loins, as a small child, ditto. Indeed,one of his early teachers wanted him on ritalin or somesuch, all because he preferred to read when the other kids were napping.

    Obviously there are exceptions, but you get the feeling large numbers of people embrace careers in teaching because they are too stupid to become social workers. A turnip is overqualified to do social work.

  39. They then leave him to be bored all year.

    And that is dangerous for teenage males.

  40. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Allegedly Rupert Murdoch was once asked if he believed in “team collaboration” to address issues.
    He replied:
    “Of course! A team of twenty people doing exactly what I tell them to, works wonders”.

  41. mh

    “While it was not Rugby Australia’s intention, Rugby Australia acknowledges and apologises for any hurt or harm caused to the Folaus.”

    And here is $8 million dollars, too.

    Love it. And it happened so quickly! Time for Izzy to get back on that footy field. 🏉

  42. Infidel Tiger

    Hahaha!

    Juan & Dan Barristers assured me Izzy got a few hundred dollars and a handshake.
    Now I hear he may have got $8m and a fulsome apology.

    Reminds me of the time Grig prostrated himself and offered to cup my balls gently in his mouth.

  43. pete m

    Tailgunner
    Dem intelligence committee released their findings which is next step towards vote

  44. Snoopy

    – Collaborative learning.

    It’s a girl thing, isn’t it?

  45. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Uh oh – numbers of commonwealth bureaucrats set to massively increase – exclusive from the Oz:

    PM to swing axe through public service
    Scott Morrison set to dramatically cut number of government departments in biggest shake-up of public service in decades.

  46. Mater

    So let’s look at the 10 ‘strategies’:

    Sorry, left the last two off:

    – Metacognitive Strategies*
    – Differentiated Teaching*

    * Sounds amazingly like Kevni Rudd (programmatic specificity) had a hand in designing these strategies!

  47. Snoopy

    Scott Morrison set to dramatically cut number of government departments

    And then he’ll cut the size of the ministry to suit.
    Amiright?

  48. mh

    I wonder if pirate pete will apologise for his $2ook bullshit still being pedalled in the fuckedfacts rags this morning.

    That guy is a national embarrassment. He is not a ‘rugby great’ either, a title some in the media like to bestow upon FitzSimons. He played 7 tests.

  49. mh

    Raelene Castle

    @raelenecastle
    Folau settlement numbers are confidential but numbers being speculated are wildly inaccurate

    6:23 AM – Dec 5, 2019

    FFS, just go.

  50. struth

    I know people high up in the NSW education bureaucracy.

    To meet them is to come face to face with true evil.
    This is no exaggeration.
    Pure Marxist, human hating filth.
    And they are women.
    It all starts in our schools……………………….and until we pull these entrenched, evil harridans screaming as they will, from being anywhere near children, quite simply, our nation is doomed.
    It’s that simple, and probably already too late.

  51. Infidel Tiger

    Andrew Clark
    @AndrewHClark
    ·
    6h
    Impeachment witness Pamela Karlan donated $1,000 to Elizabeth Warren’s 2020 presidential campaign in JULY.

  52. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Hello Johanna,

    Boofhead is doing fine, now that he completely dominates our little home.
    I only spent two days in hospital, and that was not by choice. I had already decided when the heart attack started, that I would simply lay down and let nature take its course. Unfortunately #1 son found me while I was still breathing.

    After spending the two days at a local hospital being stabilised, I was transported by ambulance down to a private home on acreage on the Gold Coast hinterland. A dear old friend from days long gone. It was she who arranged the renta-hospital bed and equipment, and arranged the three Nurse Ratchets.

  53. Infidel Tiger

    Hahaha!

    Juan & Dan Barristers assured me Izzy got a few hundred dollars and a handshake.
    Now I hear he may have got $8m and a fulsome apology.

    Reminds me of the time Grig prostrated himself and offered to cup my ba lls gently in his mouth.

  54. lotocoti

    Welp.
    The woker than woke box ticker, Years and Years wound down last night on SBS.
    Spoiler alert: The only cisgendered heterosexual white male in the multiracial multisexual gender fluid woke family was a genocide enabling illegal immigrant hating baddie. (The hater couldn’t move on from his homosexual brother drowning whilst trying to smuggle the refugee boyfriend into Britain.)
    The good news: After his release from prison, the now rehabilitated ex-banker ends up in Spain teaching English to little refugee kiddies. Or something.

  55. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Scott Morrison set to dramatically cut number of government departments

    Start with the A.B.C?

  56. Bruce of Newcastle

    One for Catholic Cats. Have you confessed your eco-sins yet?

    Catholics urged to divulge ‘eco-sins’ during Confession as Bishops launch a new environmental campaign (3 Dec)

    Catholics are being urged to divulge their ‘eco-sins’ during Confession as Bishops launch a new environmental campaign.

    As part of an initiative to ensure that the Catholic Church plays a role in tackling the climate crisis, it is encouraging congregants to go to Confession, or “reconciliation services”.

    The lay-run campaign, called Journey to 2030, was launched last weekend in partnership with the Bishops’ Conference and the Ecological Conversion Group, a volunteer group for young Catholics.

    The initiative aims to “create a sense of urgency towards our ecological crisis and those suffering from its ill effects” as well as promote confession of environmental sins.

    It’d be interesting to measure the CO2 concentration in a confessional box. Being closed in like that, I suspect it’d be quite high.

  57. struth

    PM to swing axe through public service
    Scott Morrison set to dramatically cut number of government departments in biggest shake-up of public service in decades.

    Same old same old.
    Doesn’t get the private sector going first by easing regulation and taxation, but drives the country into recession, this time without power, and starts cutting the public service giving the left all the propaganda opportunities it needs to run a “razor gang” campaign.
    Libs are just dumb, dumb, dumb…………………………and corrupt.

  58. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘rugby great Peter Fitzsimons’

    That’s akin to saying Rick McCosker was one of Australia’s premier batsmen.

    Both were famous for one thing and one thing only. Fitzsimons for taking on the French front row and getting his arse handed to him while his teammates applauded the Frogs for saving them the effort; and

    McCosker the opener, in a far gutsier display coming out to bat at No. 11 to try and save the match with his melon covered in bandages, his Baggy Green perched on top having earlier had his jaw broken by the Windies (I think), and the crowd roaring ‘Waltzing McCosker’.

    I know who I’d rather have a beer and a chat with.

  59. mh

    “With today’s acknowledgment and apology by Rugby Australia, we have been vindicated and can now move on with our lives to focus on our faith and our family,” Folau said on Wednesday.

    “We now look forward to the federal government enacting the legislation necessary to further protect and strengthen these rights for all Australians.”

    Bravo!

  60. Bruce of Newcastle

    Impeachment witness Pamela Karlan donated $1,000 to Elizabeth Warren’s 2020 presidential campaign in JULY.

    And this.

    Watch: Professor Pamela Karlan Rants About Trump, Admits Crossing Street to Avoid His Hotel

    Stanford Law School professor Pamela Karlan, one of three witnesses called by Democrats to testify on the first day of the House Judiciary Committee’s impeachment inquiry, once admitted to despising President Donald Trump so much that she crossed the street rather than walk by one of his hotels.

    Good thing she won’t walk near a Trump hotel, she might get cooties.

  61. Bushkid

    Entropy
    #3252411, posted on December 5, 2019 at 6:44 am
    I would support anyone who would call for the new state of North Queensland. Even the Katter Mouth. Make the border the Tropic of Capricorn, and it’s first clause in its new constitution is that federal law does not override state law. Then…Freedom.

    No… Please make it a couple of hundred km further south; there are plenty of us who wouldn’t quite make it over the north of the Tropic line, and we don’t belong to, or want to be part of the “other” Queensland.

    Better still, just excise that SE corner, and let it choke on it’s own stupidity. The real economy and people live outside that bubble.

  62. 8th Dan

    David Rowe has worked out how to inject TDS into his Coalition hatred. FMD.

    You’re over-thinking it, Tom.

  63. Juan

    I would not be surprised if some backgrounded journo (Fairfax of course) comes out and days, it’s not $8 m! It’s closer to $5 m! So there!

    I expected the settlement to leak, but not in less than 18 hours!

    Yours is a timely caution not to take to the bank (no pun intended 😋) the first figure put out by one side or the other. With these things, one side’s leak licences the other to do the same and once you get both sides’ versions the search for the truth can start.

    If the $8 million figure is the absolute truth then it’s one of the dumbest moves I’ve ever seen with a mediated settlement governed by a Deed of Release with a confidentiality clause. If you’re going to leak you do it after the settlement hits your bank account and clears; not before! 🤪

  64. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Please make it a couple of hundred km further south

    Draw the line wherever you like. Just don’t shut the gate until after Boofhead and I have arrived.
    It’ll take me about a week to pack and get us there.

    Can we also arrange an open border/free trade deal with WA?

  65. Dr Faustus

    @raelenecastle
    Folau settlement numbers are confidential but numbers being speculated are wildly inaccurate

    Wonder why she felt the need to trot that out.
    After you have just been violently beaten, the “Didn’t hurt” routine isn’t the best look…

  66. Johno

    In other news,Willie Nelson(86 young) has announced he is giving up smoking weed. He says he has abused his lungs for to long and it is getting difficult to breathe. He now does a good line in edibles.

  67. Johno

    He has his own brand “Willies’ Reserve”

  68. Infidel Tiger

    God have us a dominion over the earth. It is your Christian duty to be an environment steward.

    This means dealing with real issues not imaginary ones like climate change.

  69. MatrixTransform

    – Metacognitive Strategies*

    == you will think what we want you to think about what you think we are teaching

    – Differentiated Teaching*

    == do as your’e told

  70. Zatara

    Dem intelligence committee released their findings which is next step towards vote

    That’s true, but the findings weren’t exactly a surprise.

    Now today began the Judicial Committee hearings. They had 3 of the most radical leftist law professors on the planet come in and spend the day explaining “Orange man bad, must impeach”. Not a fact witness among them, just professors with a hard-on for Trump.

    It was in fact a day-long Democrat infomercial consisting of sleazy salesmen pimping impeachment.

  71. Juan

    Entropy
    #3252411, posted on December 5, 2019 at 6:44 am
    I would support anyone who would call for the new state of North Queensland. Even the Katter Mouth. Make the border the Tropic of Capricorn, and it’s first clause in its new constitution is that federal law does not override state law. Then…Freedom.

    No… Please make it a couple of hundred km further south; there are plenty of us who wouldn’t quite make it over the north of the Tropic line, and we don’t belong to, or want to be part of the “other” Queensland.

    Better still, just excise that SE corner, and let it choke on it’s own stupidity. The real economy and people live outside that bubble.

    Hang on … so you want Jackie Trad to be Life Premier of the State of South-East Queensland?!

  72. MatrixTransform

    also it isn’t STEM any more … its STEAM.

    highly technical Arts because how you feelz about mathematics is important too.

    this calculus was designed by Gramsci but is taught by Puffer-Fish

  73. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    University of Tasmania apologises for ‘deep wrongs’ done to the island’s indigenous people – but Aboriginal leader says ‘there’s a lot more to be done’

    More than 600 people gathered at Domain House in Hobart to hear the apology
    Apology delivered in English and Tasmanian indigenous language palawa kani
    Tasmanian Aboriginal Centre CEO said that a lot more needed to be done

    Daily Mail.

  74. Infidel Tiger

    Former English great Bob Willis brown bread.

  75. Cardimona

    Calling science, engineering and maritime Cats, and Cats with superior google-fu.

    I want to take the mickey out of the woketarded Douglas Shire Council north of Cairns.

    They have a plan to add a “36-vehicle, hybrid, solar-powered” cable ferry service to the existing 27-vehicle diesel-powered cable ferry service crossing the Daintree River.
    (Link may be paywalled – https://www.cairnspost.com.au/news/cairns/new-daintree-river-ferry-announced-by-douglas-shire/news-story/ee31d14861cc9a52e69fa10257aff25a )

    I’ve been trying to find out the horsepower of the existing Daintree River Ferry
    https://douglas.qld.gov.au/daintree-ferry-traffic-modelling-report-released/
    but even my local contacts have failed me.

    Once I have a rough idea of the power of the existing ferry I can calculate the area of the solar panels needed to drive a 25% larger ferry, and the mockery can begin.

    One of the Council’s reports mentions a 50-car cable ferry in Canada with 499hp.
    A local maritime diesel-fitter mate reckons the existing Daintree ferry could be as low as 100hp.

    Any thoughts?

  76. MatrixTransform

    Any thoughts?

    they need a Tesla Ferry and an auxillary floating solar panel ferry

  77. min

    I was teaching in the 70s and open classrooms were introduced that is all the forms in together. The noise was horrific I don’t know how any one could think. I walked into one group and the kids were running over the tops of desks and the 3 teaches who were sitting at students’ tables were oblivious.

  78. Cardimona

    they need a Tesla Ferry and an auxillary floating solar panel ferry

    That’s one of the funny parts – the Canadian 50-car ferry is 78.6 metres long and the Daintree River is only 275 metres wide.

  79. mh

    Melania Trump
    ‏@FLOTUS

    A minor child deserves privacy and should be kept out of politics. Pamela Karlan, you should be ashamed of your very angry and obviously biased public pandering, and using a child to do it.
    1:50 PM – 4 Dec 2019

  80. MatrixTransform

    STEAM not STEM: Why scientists need arts training

    …because otherwise the scientifical types might even start thinking for themselves

  81. 8th Dan

    I know people high up in the NSW education bureaucracy.

    Sure you do.

  82. Zatara

    One of the Council’s reports mentions a 50-car cable ferry in Canada with 499hp.
    A local maritime diesel-fitter mate reckons the existing Daintree ferry could be as low as 100hp.

    Any thoughts?

    How much would a bridge cost?

  83. Eyrie

    “Scott Morrison set to dramatically cut number of government departments”
    A couple of F/A 18s loaded with half a dozen JDAMS each in an airstrike on CASA HQ at 2pm would be a good start.

  84. Snoopy

    They have a plan to add a “36-vehicle, hybrid, solar-powered” cable ferry service to the existing 27-vehicle diesel-powered cable ferry service

    A diesel engine charging a battery with a linked solar panel would meet that description. Of course the diesel engine would likely have to run all day instead of just when the ferry is moving as at present.

  85. Eyrie

    Old Queensland should be the 50km radius of the Brisbane PO. Then the citizens of the Gympie Republic won’t have to secede.

  86. Arky

    The boomers have been in charge for the last twenty five years.

    ..
    Looking back at old staff photos the staff at my previous school had been pretty unchanged since the mid to late seventies until the early 2000s, all boomers. This I think is pretty normal. They cleared all the old geezers out and took over in the seventies.
    They spent thirty years in their little cliques plotting and career building at each other’s expense, the only thing they agreed on was to strike for more pay, retirement schemes and less work. As soon as we gen Xers came along they threw us under the bus by agreeing to things like contracts, and letting go of the generous retirement scheme for new hirings.
    We were absolutely screwed by these arseholes.
    I hope they all die of arse cancer. Even though I consider many of them friends, collectively, they suck the big one.

  87. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Catholics urged to divulge ‘eco-sins’ during Confession as Bishops launch a new environmental campaign (3 Dec)

    forgive me father I have sinned for I only own turbocharged V8s

  88. Megan

    [email protected]

    I went into teaching because my working class family could not afford to send me to uni and the Victorian Education Department offered studentships*. I did a 2 year primary teaching certificate during which I do not recollect once hearing the word pedagogy. Recently attended an alumni morning tea and was shocked and bemused to see the word teacher has disappeared from the curriculum, they are now practitioners. So professional…almost like doctors.

    I went out into a very working class school in Collingwood and under the care of a wonderful Infant Mistress who provided unlimited experience and support so I quickly learned the practicalities of imparting knowledge to the wonderful children of the Atherton Estate Housing Commission flats. I left teaching 12 years later to raise my own family and because I was becoming uncomfortable with the way the profession was heading. And seeing total bludgers rewarded with the best classes, endless study leave and senior positions because they sucked up to the principal. Every single one of which, over those 12 years, was male.

    Five years after Collingwood, in another inner suburban school, I was responsible for the learning of 37 children across 3 grade levels – grades 4 to 6. Long story about how we were allowed to set our school up in this way but it proved to be the best 3 years of my teaching career. In my final year at the school five of my grade 6 boys were comfortable teaching themselves calculus at year 9 level. This is where collaborative learning took on new meaning for me. It can certainly work – these boys, all of Greek or Italian migrant heritage, took on the challenge for themselves and encouraged each other, figured out where they could get help and had great fun doing it. Since mathematics at this level was not in my skill set, there was little input but encouragement from me. Collaborative learning was successful in this context because these kids had a strong mathematical knowledge base built up over the three previous years by direct teaching of the basics.
    I despair when I visit the grandkids school and see the nonsense being perpetrated upon them. I would love to have the money to set up a Michaela primary school here. I don’t doubt there would be plenty of keen starters. There have been multiple failures along the path from my great state school education in the 50’s and 60’s to where we are today. Collaborative and Inquiry based learning can only work on a solid knowledge and skill foundation. In making it the basis of learning from the get-go schools today are attempting to build a pyramid on its point.

    Education does not equal learning.

    *predictive text offered up student hips! This is why we are in trouble.

  89. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Calling science, engineering and maritime Cats

    You misunderstand modern scientifical principles, Cardimona. The ferry will create its own energy.
    Beneath the hull there will be a long drive shaft. At the front end will be a generator, in the middle will be an electric motor, and at the rear end will be a screw. The generator will be turned by the motor and create power as well as turn the screw to propel the ferry, and the power will also drive the generator to make the electrickery.

    This is the same scientifical principal as intended to be used to pump water uphill to create electrickery in the Snowy Hydroelectric #2 scheme

    The solar panels are only there to work the coffee machine.

  90. Bruce of Newcastle

    They have a plan to add a “36-vehicle, hybrid, solar-powered” cable ferry service to the existing 27-vehicle diesel-powered cable ferry service crossing the Daintree River.

    Quick look at Austal’s site and I can see a 30 car ferry, but it can take 700 passengers.

    Datasheet.

    Uses 4 x 2320 kW diesels.

    Say assume 2 such diesels for a river ferry. That would be 4.64 MW. If you assume 6 hrs of actual engine use then you have 4.64 MW of solar panels, assuming 6 hrs @ 100% power per day.

    Quick look suggests a standard solar panel is 2 m x 1 m, for 300 W capacity. So you’d need 4640000/300 = 15,500 solar panels of 31000 m^2 area.

    A football field is about 50 m x 100 m = 5000 m^2, so you’d need about 6 football fields worth.

    Roughly…

  91. Arky

    The thing that pisses me off most about those boomer teachers was their sanctimonious bullshit about the union.
    They would rabbit on about scabs and expect your to join the union, even though they used their numbers to sell us out before we even started.
    Fuck them and their dirty poxy union.

  92. 8th Dan

    Folau the yellow brick road … Janet Albrechtson (spit), the Daily Telegraph (spit x 2).

    Even the ABCs Mary Gearin is still trying to fan the embers of the Folau imbroglio. Good to see that she knows how to spell “cachet” and to use it correctly in a sentence. Cats take note.

  93. Juan

    The boomers have been in charge for the last twenty five years.

    ..
    Looking back at old staff photos the staff at my previous school had been pretty unchanged since the mid to late seventies until the early 2000s, all boomers. This I think is pretty normal. They cleared all the old geezers out and took over in the seventies.

    I blame Dr Benjamin Spock; that’s where it all started. 😋

    http://healthland.time.com/2011/07/14/65-years-since-spock-five-ideas-that-changed-american-parenting/

  94. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    hopefully didn’t take any plastic bottles with him

    Jason Momoa apologizes after plastic-shaming Chris Pratt: ‘Bro I love u but wtf’

    Jason Momoa’s Private Plane Made An Emergency Landing After Engine Fire Scare

    ” Momoa is “safe and happy” after his private plane made an emergency landing Wednesday.

    The “Aquaman” star was on his way to Arizona with friends to work on his “dream bike” with Love Cycles, a motorcycle shop in Phoenix, when the pilot made a stop in Palm Springs, California, because he suspected an engine fire.

  95. Roger

    University of Tasmania apologises for ‘deep wrongs’ done to the island’s indigenous people – but Aboriginal leader says ‘there’s a lot more to be done’

    It will never end.

  96. Bruce of Newcastle

    And if a Powerwall can hold 8 kWh then a day of electricity would be 4640 x 6 / 8 = 3480 Powerwalls. Which isn’t too bad actually.

  97. Tailgunner

    Dem intelligence committee released their findings which is next step towards vote

    Thanks,pete.

  98. mh

    Australia reacts to Israel Folau settlement with Rugby Australia

    Australian commentators have amplified calls for Rugby Australia boss Raelene Castle to fall on her sword for the “costly debacle” with Israel Folau.

    https://www.news.com.au/sport/sports-life/australia-reacts-to-israel-folau-settlement-with-rugby-australia/news-story/18b5f344ec602b647facb9dab0b11069

  99. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger

    #3252585, posted on December 5, 2019 at 10:01 am

    Former English great Bob Willis brown bread

    Spooky.
    KD talking about Rick McCosker’s broken jaw and next thing we hear Bob Willis broke his jaw.
    I think it was Willis what done it.

  100. Infidel Tiger

    Yep, was Bob.

    He was a very good bowler.

  101. Cardimona

    Zatara
    How much would a bridge cost?

    $45 million; but the hippies don’t want it.

  102. Cardimona

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #3252607, posted on December 5, 2019 at 10:24 am
    Bruce of Newcastle
    #3252615, posted on December 5, 2019 at 10:28 am

    Bruce, outstanding!
    Thank you very much indeed, sir.

  103. Bruce of Newcastle

    she knows how to spell “cachet”

    Pronounced ka-ching!!!
    😀

  104. lotocoti

    Uses 4 x 2320 kW diesels.

    Some Norsk outfit has a 120 car, 350 pax all electric running 2 x 450kw main engines.

  105. Slim Cognito

    Folau settlement doesn’t appear on the Guardians web page. If they reported it at all, it’s probably buried somewhere. They obviously don’t want to trigger their faithful readers, all six of them.

  106. Juan

    A football field is about 50 m x 100 m = 5000 m^2, so you’d need about 6 football fields worth.

    Roughly…

    Close. The correct standard is 100 × 60 metres.

    American football fields are 100 × 53⅓ [officially 160 ft] yards. CFL football fields are bigger, closer to the association and rugby football standard, but the Canadians also have 12 players on the field per side, one more than the NFL and American college football, to make use of the extra space.

  107. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    More than $1BILLION worth of ice is seized in Australia’s biggest ever drug meth bust

    Haul is the biggest ever onshore seizure of the drug in Australia, police say
    Three people have been charged after a series of search warrants carried out
    In July, border force agents discovered nearly $400M worth of ice in a container

    By Ben Hill For Daily Mail Australia

    Published: 09:15 AEDT, 5 December 2019 | Updated: 10:37 AEDT, 5 December 2019
    More than $1billion worth of ice has been seized during raids across Melbourne.

    Daily Mail. Spirit of free enterprise alive and well in the People’s Republic of Victoria.

  108. Leigh Lowe

    had his jaw broken by the Windies (I think), and the crowd roaring ‘Waltzing McCosker’.

    I know who I’d rather have a beer and a chat with.

    I actually met McCosker at a sportsmen’s night about two weeks after the Centenary Test and he told me “mmmmmph, gurgle, mmmmph, unnntter uuumph”.

  109. Shy Ted

    From the doco last night about buffalo hunters in Arnhem Land, healthy looking old blackfella says, “sometimes an Aborigine would sell his wife to a white man. He’d get tea, sugar, flour. Sometimes material, clothes and shirt. That went on and on all the time. Sometimes it was scones – johnny cakes, like damper, or corned meat”.
    Crikey, my one and only cost at least twice that.

  110. dopey

    Rick McCosker broken jaw. Centenary Test 1977.

  111. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger

    #3252621, posted on December 5, 2019 at 10:33 am

    Yep, was Bob.

    He was a very good bowler

    Was Bob also a poet or a writer is his spare time?

  112. Leigh Lowe

    “sometimes an Aborigine would sell his wife to a white man. He’d get tea, sugar, flour. Sometimes material, clothes and shirt. That went on and on all the time. Sometimes it was scones – johnny cakes, like damper, or corned meat”. 
    Crikey, my one and only cost at least twice that.

    How life is cheapened.
    I’d hold out for Milo and date scones.

  113. Leigh Lowe

    Googlery strikes at 10:40 with recently looked up factoids.

  114. Juan

    And for any American football fans, this is about the likely first QB to be taken, if not the first overall draft pick, in the 2020 NFL Draft:

    https://www.si.com/college/2019/12/04/justin-herbert-oregon-nfl

    And for any introverts, I’d like to highlight this part:

    ‘[Justin] Herbert’s 240-pound frame and arm strength fit the mold of a model QB, but his personality isn’t what you’d expect of a future franchise leader. At the end of last season offensive coordinator Marcus Arroyo gave Herbert the book, Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World That Can’t Stop Talking. Arroyo’s wife is a psychologist, and she marked specific sections of the book she thought would be helpful to Herbert. The quarterback isn’t on any social media to avoid what he calls “unneeded attention” and the negativity that abounds on the Internet. (He recently downloaded the video-sharing app TikTok but doesn’t have his own account; he just likes to watch funny videos). He lives in an apartment in downtown Eugene, away from campus, because, “he likes to be a little bit outside of everything,” says offensive lineman Charlie Landgraf, Herbert’s roommate.

    So as Herbert’s NFL stock rose in the fall of 2018, he was one of the last to know. Landgraf tried unsuccessfully to show Herbert mock drafts and stories he came across on Twitter, but each time he passed his phone to his roommate, Herbert hit the power button to lock the screen. “We had a conversation about that,” Herbert says, “and he’s been really good about not sending me that stuff anymore.” ‘

  115. Bruce of Newcastle

    Cardimona – Be careful, I just checked the conversion. That 100 hp is only 75 kW. But it seems crazy that a barge carrying 36 vehicles could be moved with a small car engine.

    At 500 hp/350 kW you might get away with a football field of solar panels, which would do about 12 hrs of ferrying. For an underpowered cable ferry that might be a reasonable assumption.

  116. Arky

    No I have not bloody finished, it is time to get this out.
    The very worst thing those boomer bastard teachers did was sell out to the ideologues in academia and politics.
    They agreed to a whole bunch of stuff in return for increased salaries going into retirement.
    As they were all on the 54-11 scheme, retiring just before their 55th birthdays let them retire on a percent of their final salary.
    The ideologues used that fact to push through the policies they wanted, knowing it was a once in a lifetime chance to do so.
    Xers were not in any numbers or position to put up opposition, and the boomers just wanted to retire on the most money they could. Unions were complicit and thrown the PD bone to ease any concerns.
    Open plan classrooms. Destruction of school discipline policies. One stupid curriculum after the other.
    Parents were ropeable. Academic standards plummeted.
    But these fuckers left the “profession” with their loot and enough time left to start new careers or work as CRTs.
    Meanwhile new teachers stick around for around two years of chaos and getting told to “fuck off” every day with zero recourse, and then find something sane to do before they even learn how to teach.
    FUCK YOU boomers.

  117. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    You all continue to miss the point.
    Boomers were not the cause of the mess education is in today.
    They were the first casualties. Brainwashed in senior high schools from about 1966 onwards.

    While everybody with any true commitment was off fighting WWII in one capacity or another, the education system was quietly being taken over by people who did not have Australia’s best interests to heart. Ditto the federal public service. Ditto the Defence Bureaucracy.

    This was not by accident.

  118. Bruce of Newcastle

    That’s only the area of the panels btw.
    The installation would be about twice that area.
    Are they going to knock down two football fields of Daintree rainforest?

  119. Mater

    Man up Sniffy, and tell us all what makes a country socialist and what doesn’t, and then try to align those with your belief that NAZI Germany was right wing.

    A bit late to the party, Struth. But here is the definition of socialism according to the 1954 version of the Oxford English Dictionary (I wonder what they have in the new editions?):

    “A theory or policy of social organisation which advocates the ownership or control of the means of production by the community as a whole, and their administration and distribution in the interests of all.”

    I think the NAZIS (and their 4 year economic plans) fit into the ’control’ category.

  120. Juan

    You all continue to miss the point.
    Boomers were not the cause of the mess education is in today.

    Is everyone here just defending their ‘tribe’?

  121. Tom

    Paywallian:

    Scott Morrison is poised to put an axe through the public service today with plans to dramatically cut the number of government departments with another round of mandarins set for the chopping block.

    The Australian, which flagged the changes in July, understands that several more super-departments will be created in a move to dramatically cut bureaucratic red tape.

    Senior government sources said it was expected to be the biggest realignment and reform of the public service since Bob Hawke cut the number of departments from 28 to 18 in his reforms to the machinery of government in 1987.

    The reshuffle comes after the Thodey review into the public service was handed to the government.

    While having appointed new heads of departments in the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet, Treasury, Infrastructure and energy, it is understood more heads would roll.

    An early casualty is believed to be Mike Mrdak, secretary of the Department of Communications and the Arts, with the portfolio rumoured to be rolled into the Department of Infrastructure.

    Mr Morrison, on becoming prime minister, appointed himself as minister for the public service in a signal that he was planning sweeping changes to the “mandarin” club in Canberra.

    The move follows the recent departure of the former top public servant Martin Parkinson as the head of the department of prime minister and cabinet.

    Mr Morrison told The Australian in July that he was planning to move swiftly with a cultural shake-up across the 18 government departments and more than 100 agencies before the final recom­mendations from a 12-month review of the public service.

    “We don’t expect the public service to run the government. That’s what we were elected to do,” Mr Morrison said.

    “In my experience, the public service always works best when it has strong guidance and leadership.”

    Mr Morrison said his view of the public service was straightforward. “Respect and expect — respect their capabil­ities, and expect them to get on board and implement the government’s agenda,” he said.

    Mr Morrison took an unprecedented move as Prime Minister in assigning himself the role of Minister for the Public Service and has said he will move to act on the draft recommendations already before government that call for sweeping cultural and technological reforms.

    He has argued that the public service needs to be given clear direction from government to function properly.

    “For a government to be successful, it must always harness and engage the skills and capabilities of the public service to deliver the government’s agenda,” he said.

    “This will enable departments to get on with the job, providing advice and services, busting bureaucratic bubbles where it is needed and always adopting a very outward-looking, community-facing approach.”

  122. dopey

    Third Test Headingly 1981. England on the ropes then Botham made 149. Aussies all out 111. Willis 8-43. Willis played guitar and loved Bob Dylan. Marsh and Lillee backed England to win at 500/1.

  123. Geriatric Mayfly

    Zatara
    How much would a bridge cost?
    $45 million; but the hippies don’t want it.

    Deja vu. If the local NIMBY’s don’t want it, then it will not be long before the Aborigines do not want it either.

  124. Arky

    Boomers were not the cause of the mess education is in today.

    ..
    You are wrong.
    I sat in the meetings and saw them vote for exactly what we now have.
    They were there for thirty plus years.
    When they started it was a low paid but doable career.
    Now it is an ideological nightmare.

  125. Bruce of Newcastle

    Juan – Justin Herbert sounds like a very careful and very well advised young man, since his victimology rank is somewhat lower than ant height. He has absolutely nothing to protect him against media hyenas, predatory females and avaricious lawyers.

    These days you can’t be too careful. He will have earned his millions.

    (I’ve given up watching NFL since the woke crisis – especially when Cris Collinsworth slagged off Trump live on camera.)

  126. Boambee John

    Fisky at 1212

    m0nty is hurting, but he shouldn’t be. He is actually one of the greatest seers I’ve ever encountered, albeit in reverse.

    It was the curse of Cassandra to be always correct in her prophesies, but not be believed.

    It is the curse of m0nty to be always wrong, and to be laughed at.

  127. areff

    Thanks for your memoir, Megan. Evidently you’re one of the good teachers. Then there are teachers like the nitwit who had my little bloke in Grade 2. At a parent-teacher night she told my ex and I that Ned was doing great and really enjoyed the “poetry” they were studying.

    “Ah,” says I, loosening my jocularity strap, “Byron and Shelley, eh?”, knowing full well that six-year-olds wouldn’t be wading through Childe Harold.

    She looked baffled, fell silent for a second and then replied.

    “I don’t have a Byron or a Shelley in my class. They must be in the other one.”

    Soon after, we hauled him out of the public system, gave him to the nuns for a few years and then the Jesuits. I’m relieved to report that, now he’s a big boy and about to get married, the Jacks did a good job and he can actually, you know, think.

    Come forward three decades, and I’m enjoying the irregular company of a teacher who is good at what she does (or so she says) but actively detests the education system. Earlier in her career she won the french teacher of the year award, but she no longer teaches that subject and hasn’t for some years. Why? Every year, she complains, she has to master a new approach, absorb the latest theories, put up with parents, and generally waste half her day on non-chalk activities and common room politics.

    Her solution: she teaches english as a second language to newly arrived kids (mostly Chinese). She gets no grief from parents, who just want their kids to succeed and respect her efforts, and there is less time spent on non-classroom activities.

    The downside is that homework and exams take her longer to grade because she wants the kids to master english and things like syntax and spelling are important.

  128. Arky

    Teaching is fundamentally a conservative activity.
    Passing on the required skills and knowledge to the next generation IS conservative.
    Teachers were traditionally staid and conservative by definition.
    That it is now a left wing environment is down to the ideology let in from politics and academia.
    Toxic as hell.

  129. Dr Faustus

    The Australian, which flagged the changes in July, understands that several more super-departments will be created in a move to dramatically cut bureaucratic red tape.

    Super-departments.
    Lean, slick, (dare I suggest agile and innovative?), ruthlessly efficient super-departments.

    That certainly sounds like a cunning plan that will dramatically cut bureaucratic red tape.

  130. Zippy:

    Canada should swap Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou for two Canadians detained in China in a “prisoner exchange,” says former Liberal deputy prime minister John Manley, who is a director of a Canadian telecommunications company that uses equipment from the Chinese multinational.

    Or they could hand her over to the US, who could bash her senseless for information, and then when she had been reduced to a turnip, send her back.
    Just like the Chinese did with a US citizen.

  131. Arky

    Apparently just talking to myself on here.
    OK.
    I have stuff to do anyway.
    Dickhead numbers posts something and you all over it like Pavlov’s dogs.
    Get fucked.

  132. MatrixTransform

    *predictive text

    good ol’ Auto-Corrupt

  133. 8th Dan

    You forgot to add:

    Zips up fly.

  134. Mater

    Apparently just talking to myself on here.

    I’ll pipe up if I disagree.

  135. Arky

    Piss off you brain dead humourless mong.

  136. areff

    I was paying attention, Arky. Don’t be miffed.

  137. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    “We don’t expect the public service to run the government. That’s what we were elected to do,” Mr Morrison said.

    Gee, a comedian on top of all his other talents.
    Who knew?

  138. MatrixTransform

    The correct standard is …

    go Juan … is that so? … look it correcting the math of the chemist

    wont they be charging the batteries with the excess energy from coal at night ??

    I do love the way yr get all authoritative … must be a teacher

  139. mh

    Ray Hadley advising his listeners that Folau did not receive $8 million in the settlement payout from RA. Says the figure is much lower.

    His source? Raelene Castle’s tweet. lol

  140. If the decaying lump of Royal equine genome did actually refuse to shake the Trumps’ hands, I have become a committed Republican.
    Fucking unbelievable. Her only job for the fortune she earns is to stand in lines like a gormless ingrate and flash her chaff chompers at people who have actually achieved something. Who granted her the right to use an official ceremony to insult a foreign head of state. If Madge doesn’t do a groveling apology and send Anne out of the realm, she has condemned the family firm to its long overdue demise.
    She was no doubt inspired by one of her intellectual genius ageing rock star cultural guides.
    There is too much risk for Australia to remain associated with a family of mentaly deficient, easily led, relevance deprived, profligate, and now Marxist prats who actually believe that anyone gives a shit about their blathering opinions.
    We get our own homegrown dickheads for free.

  141. Juan

    correcting the math of the chemist

    The maths were fine; the dataset had some errors. Can’t blame the calculator when the wrong numbers are entered! 😉

  142. Infidel Tiger

    Castle’s tweet said the figure was inaccurate.

    He might have got $20,000,000

  143. Infidel Tiger

    Princess Anne did not snub the Trumps.

    More fake news. All journos to Gitmo.

  144. MatrixTransform

    Get fucked

    finished quilting the car yet?

  145. McCosker was done in by the dreaded John Snow.
    Only whispering death from the West Indies and Jeff Thompson were more dangerous.

  146. Bruce of Newcastle

    But these fuckers left the “profession” with their loot

    Arky – My old man retired in his early fifties as a principal, using half pay long service to bring forward the date. Got out as soon as he possibly could as he could no longer teach and the administrative crap was piling higher and deeper. He’s mid silent generation.

    My comment to Peter MV is that the Fabians have been going at this for a long long time. From well before the fall of the Soviets. Gramsci and all that.

    My dad (thrice divorced) told me recently that if he were to marry a 20 year old bimbo she would get half his final salary for the rest of her life upon his carking it. He was one of the last in the NSW system to have that in his terms. He doesn’t intend to do it, just was musing to me how insane the system was back then.

  147. Dr Faustus

    Castle responded to her critics on Thursday morning by digging her heels in and refusing to resign.
    She told reporters she has received “extensive support” from the rugby community for how Rugby Australia has handled the messy crisis.
    She insisted she remains the right person to lead Australian rugby into 2020.

    Probably depends on which rugby community she is talking about – but if “the rugby community” the Goth swims in supports “how Rugby Australia has handled the messy crisis” that, right there, explains a lot about the decline of the sport.

    Hard to see major sponsors desperate to queue-up to have some of that sort of glory and success rub off onto their own brands. ‘Fly Wallabies QANTAS – It’s not nearly as bad as it seems…

    Gorne by April, at the latest.

  148. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    I’m not up on the Folau saga.
    Is he free now to play rugby again?

  149. Mother Lode

    In 1959, the British physicist and novelist C.P. Snow delivered a famously controversial lecture at Cambridge University. He described a post-war schism between two groups — scientists and the literary world.

    I think far more damage is done by scientifically illiterate ‘creatives’ than savant-like scientists.

    Imagine how quickly the AGW scam would have died if the ‘creatives’ understood that the atmosphere is not like an esky, and how they would have avoided expressions like ‘greenhouse effect’ if they knew how greenhouses worked.

  150. Juan

    My dad (thrice divorced)

    Isn’t divorce (and remarriage) one of the sins that risks consigning one to Hell?

    (I usually like citing sources but I’m sure in your case, Bruce, I won’t need to. 😋)

  151. Bubbles

    The rusty old cogs grind slowly, but I recall working with a very funny fella who was Prince Andrew’s syndicate partner during his course at Camberley.
    He was a good humoured bloke, but when he spoke about Andrew, bright red beads appeared in his eyes. He detested him for being an arrogant, privileged but stupid parody of an upper class twit.
    For a couple of Christmases after he returned to Oz he would arrange for a cheap bottle of Oz plonk to be delivered to HRH with a message that his special contact in the industry was pleased to allow access to this special vintage. He always recommended laying the plonk down for 15 to 20 years.
    He gave up after never receiving an acknowledgement for his special gifts.
    He did like Fergie however, which always left me feeling a little intrigued.

  152. Roger

    Same old same old.
    Doesn’t get the private sector going first by easing regulation and taxation, but drives the country into recession, this time without power, and starts cutting the public service

    Relax struth.

    What the media is describing as Morrison taking an axe to the public service is actually a consolidation of 18 unwieldy departments into 14 larger ones. I’d wager no public servant will actually lose their job. At the most, volunteers will be sought for handsome redundancy packages or offers of early retirement will be made. After a suitable period, the lower grades will come back as semi-permanent temps whilst the higher grades will be given well renumerated “consultancies” to make up for the loss of “expertise” that the early retirements created. Any worth their salt will find employment in Canberra as lobbyists to government.

    And so it goes on.

  153. Although it’s impossible to say for sure, Trofim Lysenko probably killed more human beings than any individual scientist in history.

    So when the doctrines of science and the doctrines of communism clashed, he always chose the latter—confident that biology would conform to ideology in the end. It never did.

    Our current Klimatears are trying their best to knock Lysenko out of the record books.
    When the doctrines of science and the communist UN clash. They always choose the UN.

  154. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Get fucked

    Noice.

  155. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    how they would have avoided expressions like ‘greenhouse effect’ if they knew how greenhouses worked.

    The scientific battle was lost when everybody started accepting the “holes” in the mythical,
    non-existent “ozone layer” fairy story.

  156. struth

    I know people high up in the NSW education bureaucracy.

    Sure you do.

    Please, oh please believe me, I won’t be able to go on…………………………………………………

    Where’s the sniffing hypocrite?

    Oh by the way Arky, those arsehole boomers in education were left wing arseholes.
    Every generation has them.
    My parents were boomers and a harder working private sector small business type people you won’t find.

    I know you are just venting ……………………………………….and you have every right.

    But fuck me, can’t you calm down with all the fucking swearing.

    I’m blushing here

  157. Cardimona

    BoN, would you be so kind as to check my reckoning?

    As a climate sceptic I got a hearty laugh out of the Douglas Shire Council’s plan for a “hybrid solar-powered” Daintree River cable-ferry, with the artist’s impression particularly hilarious.

    While I couldn’t quickly track down the exact engine power rating of the existing cable-ferry, it’s likely to be in the 150 to 250 horsepower range. Let’s say 200hp for comparative purposes.

    The proposed new cable-ferry will take a one-third larger payload, so let’s assume its power requirement will be about 265hp or 198 kilowatts.

    A standard solar panel is 2 metres by 1 metre for 300 Watts capacity. 660 panels would be required to deliver 198,000 Watts (198 kilowatts). That’s 1,320 square metres of solar panels.

    A 36-car cable-ferry that’s nine vehicles long and four lanes wide would need to be around 54m by 16m. It’s bank of solar panels would be 66m by 20m, which is a heck of a sail in a strong wind.

    Horizontal solar panels only work at maximum capacity for 6 to 8 hours per (fine) day, while the ferry crossing is open from 5am to midnight.

    That’s 11 to 13 hours per day when batteries or diesel would be required.

    To supply 198 kilowatts for 13 hours would require 322 of Tesla’s 8 kilowatt-hour Powerwall batteries, at a cost of about $3.2 million. You could buy a lot of diesel for that.

    Charging the batteries would need additional solar panels. Allowing for charging and conversion losses of 25 per cent, another 1,341 panels would be needed.

    That’s 2,001 panels covering 4,002 square metres or roughly 40m by 100m.

    Of course, the Daintree River is in the Wet Tropics and full sunshine every day just doesn’t happen. So triple the batteries and panels to allow for one wet day. A wet week? Forgeddaboudit.

    As usual, a solar ferry is just another green groupthink thought bubble that simply can’t stand up in the harsh light of reality.

  158. Boambee John

    Cardimona at 1002

    Once I have a rough idea of the power of the existing ferry I can calculate the area of the solar panels needed to drive a 25% larger ferry, and the mockery can begin.

    The proposed ferry is 33% larger (27 vehicles plus 9 to reach 36). Don’t minimise their task.

  159. Juan

    I’m not up on the Folau saga.
    Is he free now to play rugby again?

    He’s always been free to play rugby; it’s just Rugby Australia isn’t obliged to re-employ him. He could have played amateur rugby at any time.

    He has always been free to take a lucrative contract in France, the UK, or Japan. He may not want to, or he may now do so, having delayed this option to maximise the ‘loss’ of earnings he could claim. Nothing wrong with that, that’s a common consideration in these sorts of cases.

  160. Mother Lode

    The “Aquaman” star was on his way to Arizona with friends to work on his “dream bike” with Love Cycles, a motorcycle shop in Phoenix, when the pilot made a stop in Palm Springs, California, because he suspected an engine fire.

    If there are photos of him snuggling up to a tricycle with a bell and tassles from the handle bars we will be able to look forward to him suiciding by dismembering his own body with a chainsaw, tossing the parts into a wood chipper, and mailing the mulch to all 49 states – all of them except Arkanas.

  161. Megan

    That it is now a left wing environment is down to the ideology let in from politics and academia.
    Toxic as hell.

    Could not agree more! +1million

  162. mh

    Memoryvault, I wouldn’t be listening to Juan. He gets so much wrong.

  163. Cardimona

    Boambee John, thanks, I realised that error and corrected for it in my post at 11.44am.

  164. struth

    What the media is describing as Morrison taking an axe to the public service is actually a consolidation of 18 unwieldy departments into 14 larger ones. I’d wager no public servant will actually lose their job. At the most, volunteers will be sought for handsome redundancy packages or offers of early retirement will be made. After a suitable period, the lower grades will come back as semi-permanent temps whilst the higher grades will be given well renumerated “consultancies” to make up for the loss of “expertise” that the early retirements created. Any worth their salt will find employment in Canberra as lobbyists to government.

    And so it goes on.

    I don’t give a fuck………..oops…………….I don’t give a rats how man public servants lose their jobs……………….the more the merrier for me.
    But as it proves, we are already seeing the negative razor gang reporting, even though it’s worse than the Liberals in yesteryear as you are correct, they won’t sack anyone.

    The liberals don’t have the smarts to let the productive private sector create jobs by getting out of their pockets and to stop harassing them with red and green tape and compliance , and then to quietly through natural attrition massively reduce the public service and get those public servants in to the private sector paying taxes and not either re employed elsewhere in the public service or on the dole.

  165. Bruce of Newcastle

    Isn’t divorce (and remarriage) one of the sins that risks consigning one to Hell?

    Juan – He’s an atheist afaik. I didn’t grow up in a Christian home, but I read a Children’s Bible someone gave me around age 11 and got gonged. That’s how it works for some people 😀 .

  166. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Memoryvault, I wouldn’t be listening to Juan. He gets so much wrong.

    Maybe, Mh. But he’s the only person to offer an answer to my query.

    Thanks, Juan.

  167. Old School Conservative

    @raelenecastle
    Folau settlement numbers are confidential but numbers being speculated are wildly inaccurate

    What, higher?

  168. mh

    OK, MV.

    From the Oz

    While he was locked in a dispute with Rugby Australia, no overseas club was going to touch him.

    But now that a settlement has been reached, he will be in demand. France, where several clubs are flush with funds, is probably his most likely destination.

  169. Infidel Tiger

    EdAsante
    @EdAsante77

    “Consumer preferences and tariffs have led companies to expand their American furniture production. https://wsj.com/articles/the-u-s-furniture-industry-is-backbut-there-arent-enough-workers-11575504528?shareToken=st7eacde06b81e4aff8cc342c68ca9ab7c… via
    @WSJ

    The good news keep coming thanks to tariffs.

  170. Juan

    Juan – He’s an atheist afaik. I didn’t grow up in a Christian home, but I read a Children’s Bible someone gave me around age 11 and got gonged. That’s how it works for some people 😀 .

    Interesting … just curious, did that coincide with any of the Billy Graham revivals, an experience like Phillip Jensen’s?

  171. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Thank you for that confirmation, Mh.

  172. Bruce of Newcastle

    How about this story below? Maybe it could entice you back to watching the game?

    Good linebacker! Injury prone. It is God’s blessing that he was able to dance with his wife at their wedding in May. Best wishes Mr Shazier.

    Also his first ever sack was of Colin Kaepernick. Well done that man!

  173. Mark A

    It’s not like you MV
    Any answer?

  174. Caveman

    Raelene Castle is holding out for her Christmas bonus.

  175. Old School Conservative

    Arky
    #3252667, posted on December 5, 2019 at 11:09 am
    Apparently just talking to myself on here.
    OK.
    I have stuff to do anyway.
    Dickhead numbers posts something and you all over it like Pavlov’s dogs.
    Get fucked.

    Can’t a bloke just nod sagely at your posts and then move on – especially as it’s more than 12 hours later?

  176. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Any answer?

    Hi Mark.
    Sorry, but you’ve lost me.
    Did somebody ask me something?

  177. mh

    Raelene Castle is holding out for her Christmas bonus

    Along with the Christmas food hamper.

  178. Mother Lode

    McCosker was done in by the dreaded John Snow.

    What did Tyrion Lannister have to say?

  179. Tom

    Get fucked.

    Your head explosions are so endearing, Arky.

    BTW, I read everything you post because it’s mostly interesting and informative.

  180. Geriatric Mayfly

    The House has gone beresk. Over what I know not.

  181. mh

    With RA having apologised to Israel Folau, the comments and attitude of former ARL chief (League) Peter Beattie don’t look too crash hot.

  182. Old School Conservative

    Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault
    #3252695, posted on December 5, 2019 at 11:35 am
    I’m not up on the Folau saga.
    Is he free now to play rugby again?

    An interesting question exercising every rugby follower’s mind at the moment.
    Theoretically yes.
    Practically, no – not in Australia given the terse statement released by RA yesterday.
    Overseas – possibly and more likely now an agreement has been reached between RA and Israel. BUT many wealthy club owners in France, the UK and Japan will still be worried that their business will be negatively affected by any on-going Christian posts from Israel.
    Just to confuse the issue, this is Castle today: Pressed today on if Folau could return to the game, Ms Castle said “never say never right?”.

    All in all, I just hope to see him playing again.

  183. Juan

    While he was locked in a dispute with Rugby Australia, no overseas club was going to touch him.

    On what is that based? That is such nonsense.

    Rugby is a niche sport which most people don’t understand and fewer know how the administration works. Suddenly, in the midst of the Folau saga, sports writers were legal experts and everyone seemingly was an expert on every aspect of rugby administration.

    Here are some facts:

    In Australia the governing body controls the national team and all the provincial teams.

    In France, the clubs (the equivalent when it comes to salaries paid) are independent, they can sign anyone they like, which is why numerous scandal-ridden Australian rugby and NRL players have gone there. (I’m not suggesting Folau is scandal-ridden but merely noting the standard which operates there.)

    In Australia, if the Wallabies coach wants to see so-and-so at fly-half, they can instruct the player’s provincial coach to play him in that position. That would never happen in France, where the fly-half for les bleus plays at inside centre for Stade Toulousain; because that’s what’s deemed to be in the club’s interest and Toulouse plays the player’s salary, not the Fédération Française de Rugby.

  184. Mark A

    Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault
    #3252740, posted on December 5, 2019 at 12:13 pm

    Should’ve said “any answer will do?”

    Juan is the recent reincarnation of Googlary, a troll well known of being a (know it all) false prophet and only slightly more reliable than monty.

  185. 1735099

    Teaching is fundamentally a conservative activity.

    On the contrary.
    Teaching is fundamentally about the future.
    To be conservative relies on the past.
    The world is changing so quickly, that the past becomes irrelevant in a very short time.
    It is, or should be, a subversive activity, because, among other things, it should challenge students to think.
    It should encourage them to question things as they are, to envision and consider possibilities.
    It should encourage students to think beyond the conventional wisdom of popular culture.

  186. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    I read everything you post because it’s mostly interesting and informative.

    Ditto here, Tom. Not sure what Arky was expecting.
    Most of his comments are so self-evidently true (at least as far as I’m concerned), that further discussion is usually unnecessary.

    Ditto for much of what Tel, BoN and IT write.

  187. Bruce of Newcastle

    just curious, did that coincide with any of the Billy Graham revivals

    Juan – No. I did go to one of those about a decade later though. Seemed fine.

    Once I was in a line at the Maccas on the M4 and Philip was the guy ahead of me, so I said hi! He recognised me but couldn’t recall my name, which was quite fine since I’d been gone from his church over a decade. I attended there quite a few years in the eighties. Peter and Phillip both taught the Bible, which I am grateful for.

  188. Juan

    BUT many wealthy club owners in France, the UK and Japan will still be worried that their business will be negatively affected by any on-going Christian posts from Israel.

    I don’t think that’s a consideration in France or Japan.

    If you have had a scandal or two while playing Australian rugby or in the NRL, the beauty of the ‘escape the France’ option is the sports fans can’t read about what you’ve done and, going forward, won’t understand what you say.

  189. Old School Conservative

    they can instruct the player’s provincial coach to play him in that position

    Debatable.

  190. Geriatric Mayfly

    Members wearing improvised hats as they speak. A tangled web ensnares the House and Mr Speaker battles through the multiple threads.

  191. Ellie

    I read everything you post because it’s mostly interesting and informative.

    Me too, Tom. I find Arky fascinating. A very articulate and talented man.

  192. mh

    I’d love to see Izzy back in the NRL, but I can’t see it happening.

    Or maybe that new Toronto outfit that signed Sonny Bill might think about it.

  193. Juan

    Peter and Phillip both taught the Bible, which I am grateful for.

    I occasionally follow the rearguard action which they’re fighting, with GAFCON, for the soul of the Anglican Communion. I fear they’re going to lose. The deck is stacked against them when the worldwide leader of the Anglican Communion is selected by a UK government committee and not by any Anglican body!

  194. Old School Conservative

    Did a shadow of Karl Marx just flit through these pages?

  195. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Juan is the recent reincarnation of Googlary, a troll well known of being a (know it all) false prophet and only slightly more reliable than monty.

    Maybe so, Mark.
    Nonetheless, the only person to offer me any kind of answer at the time.
    Credit where credit is due.

    Housework calls – a woman’s work is never done.

  196. Juan

    Or maybe that new Toronto outfit that signed Sonny Bill might think about it.

    That might be possible but I wouldn’t hold my breath.

    Just remember all the other national governing bodies in the Rugby League sphere are financially dependent on the NRL via the ARL, which is why the NRL Commission was able to tell the Tongan Rugby League what to do.

    They were even able to get the Tongan Prime Minister involved, which was an odd twist, but there you go.

  197. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Hello Elle.
    You’re looking as radiant as ever.
    New hairdo?

  198. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Comment, from the Oz ,article on Scott Morrison’s plan to revamp the Public service.

    John
    45 minutes ago
    I recently had a public defence public servant in a Training course who, proudly informed everyone that they had not worked pass 12:30 on a Friday for the last 30 years and it wasn’t going to start today. Sorry no sympathy for them.

  199. Ellie

    Yes, MV. Much like the style in my gravatar.

    Now, go do your housework and do it au naturel. 😊

  200. Mark A

    Sorry, I’m on duty and looking at the wrong clock, it’s 2:37 AM here, apologies for the frivolity.

  201. struth

    So much dumb here.

    Teaching is fundamentally a conservative activity.

    On the contrary.
    Teaching is fundamentally about the future.
    To be conservative relies on the past.

    Without imparting the wisdom gained from the past, there is no future.

    The world is changing so quickly, that the past becomes irrelevant in a very short time.

    Except the Vietnam war, apparently.

    It is, or should be, a subversive activity, because, among other things, it should challenge students to think.

    Incentives to think and learn do not need to be subversive

    .
    The only thing subversive about modern education is the left have subverted it to socialist indoctrination, using bullshit like this in an attempt to hide it.

    It should encourage them to question things as they are, to envision and consider possibilities.

    Except they should never question Climate Change, white racism, evil western culture……………………………etc etc etc.

    It should encourage students to think beyond the conventional wisdom of popular culture.

    Who gets to make these choices and look what the result has been.

    Do your fucking jobs.
    Teach kids to read and write and to do maths, a bit of science etc.

    How arrogant are you to think you know anything about other issues, and grant yourselves the authority to shove your moronic insulated world view (above the society you live in that pays you to ONLY do your job) down the throats of other people’s kids?

    I’m supposed to trust my kid to people like you, raving moronic socialists espousing their grand theories on life?

    FMD, you ignorant, arrogant fuckwits.

  202. Nomen

    Maybe Folau should play for Hull.

  203. lotocoti

    the past becomes irrelevant in a very short time.

    My sides.

  204. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    I recently had a public defence public servant in a Training course who, proudly informed everyone that they had not worked pass 12:30 on a Friday . . .

    You mean there are public servants who actually work to 12.30 pm any day?

    You’re kidding, right?
    Which department?

  205. struth

    You are a pontificating, delusional moron, numbers.

    You follow an evil political system, proven to be evil, yet you just told us children should not be learning from the past, yet you make the amazing , gobsmacking show here of showing us that learning from the past is exactly what you haven’t done, and you are a moron because of it.

    And any past you are pushing are pure fabrications and lies.

  206. Entropy:

    I would support anyone who would call for the new state of North Queensland. Even the Katter Mouth. Make the border the Tropic of Capricorn, and it’s first clause in its new constitution is that federal law does not override state law. Then…Freedom.

    That would mean Barcaldine would be in the old Qld State.
    Better idea: QLD from the coast to the GDR. Bounded by Brisbane in the south, and Rockhampton in the north.
    We get the Outback across to the Peaks of the GDR, south to the NSW border, west to the NT/SA line.
    Bugger all industry, but no legacy problems either.
    Lots of resources we can develop without Brisbane Greens saying feelz. And seeing there will be no funding for layabouts, then plenty available for development.
    Our new motto?
    “Dig, Baby, Dig.”

  207. Mother Lode

    Relax struth.

    What the media is describing as Morrison taking an axe to the public service is actually a consolidation of 18 unwieldy departments into 14 larger ones.

    I remember Sir Humphrey in Yes, Minister explaining to someone that the Civil Service loves department mergers – you keep all the same people and then add another layer of administrators across the top.

  208. Bruce of Newcastle

    Cardimona – The highlighted bit is wrong:

    Charging the batteries would need additional solar panels. Allowing for charging and conversion losses of 25 per cent, another 1,341 panels would be needed.

    That’s 2,001 panels covering 4,002 square metres or roughly 40m by 100m.

    If you have 660 panels needed during the day when the Sun is up (ie 6 hrs @ 100%) then you will arithmetically need 1341 panels for the other 13 hours. So delete the bolded bit.

    Also replace the word “triple” with “multiply” to be safe, as the calc if you do it is actually double the panels and 2.5 times the battery.

  209. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Now, go do your housework and do it au naturel.

    Too late, Elle.
    When I first read your posts each day, I immediately rip all my clothes off.
    It’s a boy thing.

    Now to the housework.
    Sigh.

  210. struth

    ,

    and it’s first clause in its new constitution is that federal law does not override state law. Then…Freedom.

    Then you are advocating for another country, not another state.

    Just sayin’

    Nice dream, but

  211. cohenite

    Piss off you brain dead humourless mong.

    Don’t be too hard on it, it has no dick:

  212. Shy Ted:

    Lack of fear factor in classrooms due to the feminisation of teaching – remember the teachers in whose classes you wouldn’t dare not apply yourself.

    I put it down to the lack of tasers and their liberal use.

  213. mh

    Juan
    #3252763, posted on December 5, 2019 at 12:31 pm

    The ARL can stop a player that has just finished several seasons playing union from joining Super League?

  214. Geriatric Mayfly

    The House was suspended for 15 minutes to sort out a problem. It’s now half an hour. Time for Hon Members to quaff a few more Chrissy drinks and return in a right state for the continuing brawl over the rights of the wukkas.

  215. struth

    C’mon Numbers.

    Answer the fucking question.

    Remember the last time you tried, and you actually made the statement that Nazi Germany was right wing because WWWWWAAAAAAACCISTS!
    It got down to that.
    You have nothing.
    No facts, no theory that holds water for a second , and it’s about time you repented and apologised to all here for being a gullible brainwashed fuckwit, and embarrassingly arrogant with it.

  216. Bruce of Newcastle

    Ok, technically 13/6 x 660 = 1430 not 1341…

    Shows I can’t do big sums in my head. I’m amazed by my old Casio calculator though, still going on the original battery after ~quarter of a century.

  217. Juan

    The ARL can stop a player that has just finished several seasons playing union from joining Super League?

    https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/israel-folau-rugby-league-return-tonga-government-intervenes/22ebf84b-2fa0-4f66-bec9-aa05d1626922

    Not directly, but money talks.

  218. cohenite

    Teaching is fundamentally about the future.

    That means we can fire every history and literature teacher. And don’t forget 99% of maths and science principles were discovered in the past; fuck them off too. That should balance the budget.

    To be conservative relies on the past.

    No, to be conservative is to value those things which have worked in the past and which provide support for Western capitalistic democracy, the best society ever invented by normal humans.

    The world is changing so quickly, that the past becomes irrelevant in a very short time.

    That’s true, I frequently see people with 2 or more heads. 20 years ago I hardly saw any multi-headed people.

    You’re so smart integers that like Jeff Fenech, you should leave your brain to science. I’d do it now while it’s at it’s peak.

  219. Juan

    Apologies, the link I posted above needs the link below for context. This was from 2 or 3 days before the Tongan Prime Minister’s intervention.

    https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/folau-set-for-stunning-rugby-league-return-20190923-p52u5s.html

  220. struth

    Teaching is fundamentally about the future.

    Think about the pure idiocy of this statement.
    Either a teacher is teaching knowledge from the past, or they are all clairvoyant .
    If they are not clairvoyant, numbers has just told us they are not needed.

  221. feelthebern

    And for any American football fans, this is about the likely first QB to be taken, if not the first overall draft pick, in the 2020 NFL Draft:

    I would pick Jalen Hurts.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jalen_Hurts

  222. struth

    You’re so smart integers that like Jeff Fenech, you should leave your brain to science. I’d do it now while it’s at it’s peak.

    “never used” “as new”

  223. Cardimona

    BoN at 12.45 and 12.57

    Much appreciated, sir.
    I was rubbish at school and only regained an interest while training as a fire investigator.
    Now I’m trying to learn/relearn everything in order to fight the climate wars.

  224. Dianeh

    ‘Those who fail to learn from history are condemned to repeat it.’

    Winston Churchill shows why the past is not irrelevant.

  225. feelthebern

    Some of the most talented QB’s drafted have been put into terrible positions.
    RGIII was put into a horrible system in Washington, just like Dwayne Haskins this year.
    Mariota went into a Titans offence that literally didn’t give a shit about how busted up he would get.
    Half the struggle being a successful QB in the NFL is not getting turned into a pretzel in your first season or two like RGIII & Mariota were.

  226. 1735099

    In an attempt to educate the AN-D* (and God knows he needs it) I’ll identify as many as I can from this Pic.
    From left around the circle clockwise starting with Gibbo –
    2nd Lieutenant Doug Gibbons (57089, GIBBONS, Peter Douglas) – With the pointer.
    Unknown
    Unknown
    Unknown
    Lance Corporal Dave Goy (2791895, GOY, David John)
    Lance-Corporal Gavin Rodie (5716347, RODIE, Gavin Angus)
    Private John Brain (39979, BRAIN, John Arthur)
    Private Doug Hooker (735172, HOOKER, Douglas Malcolm)
    Private Paul McGrath, (218381, Paul Nicholas) – holding an M79.
    Unknown
    Corporal Dave Cruse, (4410621, CRUSE, David Warren)
    Private Joe Gilewicz, (6709497, GILEWICZ, Joseph) – right knee raised.
    Unknown
    Private “Charlie” Tilmouth, (4720142, TILMOUTH, Colin) – wounded and medevaced a short time after this photo was taken. Subsequently RTA.
    Lance-Corporal Bruce Ravenscroft, (218672, RAVENSCROFT, Raymond Bruce)
    Unknown
    (Probably) Private JJ Smith, (55645, SMITH, John Joseph)
    Unknown
    Unknown
    Yours truly – I know because my SLR with sheep counter attached is lying within hand’s reach along with the M72 I was carrying at that time.
    I don’t know why Snoopy isn’t in the photo. I’m sure he won’t mind me saying that his nose (a prominent identifying feature – hence his nickname) would have given him away, but he is not visible.
    That is the whole platoon, so he was there at the time.
    Straight after the briefing we were split into two half platoon groups, and it was the first of these that encountered the VC sentries near the bunker system.
    The only ID I’m not completely sure of is JJ Smith – hence “probably”.
    I know that degree of uncertainty doesn’t present well on this site, but there you go.
    *Anonymous Name-Dropper

  227. Black Ball

    Good afternoon all.
    Raelene Castle won’t last the year. The incessant calls for her to step down will force a teary exit, upon which she will blame a misogynistic culture that just can’t handle a lady in charge.
    And is anything that Fitzsimons writes be construed as defamatory in relation to Folau? Imagine if Folau took action against that idiot.

  228. Tailgunner:
    It’ s interesting wording about the bet –

    All-In Betting. Impeached settled as majority vote of least one article of impeachment passed by House of Reps. Conviction settled as verdict in Senate Impeachment Trial. No Trial in First Term considered no conviction. President Elect at completion of Electoral College.

    What’s your interpretation?

  229. struth

    So now he sucks his thumb under the covers of the irrelevant past.

  230. struth

    Well I thought it was his thumb.

  231. feelthebern

    Current NFL standings.

    https://www.nfl.com/standings/league/2019/REG

    If you’re Herbert, do you really want to go #1 in the draft & go to the Bengals?
    I think Tua will stay in college for another year to re-hab.
    Then Tua & Trevor Lawrence get drafted the following year.

  232. feelthebern

    Ralene will resign right before Christmas.

  233. Zatara

    Half the struggle being a successful QB in the NFL is not getting turned into a pretzel in your first season or two like RGIII & Mariota were.

    And the secret to that is to not be known as a ‘running’ or ‘dual threat’ QB.

    Develop your arm strength and accuracy, you will live longer.

  234. Juan

    Some of the most talented QB’s drafted have been put into terrible positions.
    RGIII was put into a horrible system in Washington, just like Dwayne Haskins this year.

    The guy I feel most sorry for is Josh Rosen. Looks like he’ll be on his third team in three years next year. Hopefully he might land in a situation that would suit him.

    With RG3, he was in initially in the perfect system for his skillset; but as always happens the rest of the league figured out how to stop, or at least slow, the RPO. Also, there is the matter of his injuries.

  235. Poider:

    I only spent two days in hospital, and that was not by choice. I had already decided when the heart attack started, that I would simply lay down and let nature take its course. Unfortunately #1 son found me while I was still breathing.

    A lonely road – been on it myself. Sometimes just calling last drinks is a good policy.

  236. feelthebern

    I don’t think Tua will do well in the NFL.
    Having to re-work your offence for a left handed QB is hassle you just don’t need.

  237. Juan

    Half the struggle being a successful QB in the NFL is not getting turned into a pretzel in your first season or two like RGIII & Mariota were.

    And the secret to that is to not be known as a ‘running’ or ‘dual threat’ QB.

    But, while it lasts, who doesn’t love watching Lamar Jackson?!

    https://twitter.com/ravens/status/1193616970601635840

  238. mh

    This is how ludicrous it has become. Sporting bodies trying to stop an individual from playing professional sport anywhere in the world. His crime? Quoting the Bible.

    It’s not like he terrorised a NYC family during a home invasion while in an alcohol and drug induced frenzy.

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