Open Forum: November 30, 2019

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  1. 1735099

    This will be an acid test of the extent of Dutton’s pig headedness.

  2. Juan

    Nearly half of the US maize crop is turned into ethanol to be burnt in cars.

    The politics of ethanol is a nightmare. This is a repost:

    The Iowa Republican caucuses in early February might also prove interesting if Donald Trump hasn’t undone the damage caused by his EPA’s expanded granting of ethanol blending waivers to oil refineries, which saw an ethanol plant closing in September — not exactly ideal four months before Iowa Republicans gather to caucus.

    Trump’s approval ratings with Iowa Republicans remain sky high, but they’re also expecting him to deliver on his promises to end the waivers. In July he told Iowans:

    I am very close, I have to tell you, to pulling off something that you have been looking forward to for many years, and that is the 12-month E15 waiver“.

    The article goes on to say Trump has left it to his acting EPA Administrator Andrew Wheeler to find a solution that will satisfy both corn producers and the oil industry — two constituencies Trump would want to have onside.

    Donald Trump is in no danger of losing in Iowa either in February or November but a large protest vote early in the primaries is something he would want to avoid.

  3. 1735099

    The devastation is massive, as is the hypocrisy of the green-left who refuse to condemn such foul practices.

    More bullshit from BoN.

  4. Geriatric Mayfly

    Greta wouldn’t have to incur the CO2 emissions of a flight from the US to Portugal.

    And what is the cleanest, Greenist most Marxist way to get from Portugal to Madrid. The scoldy poppet should go by donkey and cart. Which one pulls the cart will be a toss up.

  5. 8th Dan

    Between Dan and I we’ve worked out that BP stocks different product mixes at different servos.

    Fact Check: – False. We have worked out no such thing.

    When I go to the map on the Fuel Check site and zoom out it shows the Regular Unleaded prices at 12 BP service stations in the Newcastle area. I think that means that all of the BP stations around you sell Regular Unleaded. Except Warners Bay BP, which I understand is closed and fenced off and not selling any fuel at all.

  6. feelthebern

    No spoilers.
    The Irishman on Netflix is worth the watch.
    One & done, though.
    This is no Raging Bull.
    The film stinks of a vehicle to get De Niro out of his crippling financial mess.
    He co-produced it with Scorsese.
    Al Pacino & Joe Pesci are powerhouses & both should get best supporting actor nominations.
    De Niro is stale.
    Great bit parts by Ray Romano & Stephen Graham.

  7. Juan

    wowser women’s anti-porn movements such as the one which declared Toowoomba “A City Free From Porn“.

    I suspect women in the anti porn movement have above average usage of sex toys.

    Small business opportunity: Open a sex shop in Top Ryde

    The anti-porn campaigner who convinced the Mayor of Toowoomba to declare his is “A City Free From Porn” will be meeting with Ryde Council to convince them to do the same:

    The Ryde Pastor’s Network, along with some congregation members, is meeting with a Ryde councillor and council members to discuss a collective response to other key social issues affecting the local community, including pornography, prostitution, domestic violence and mental illness.

    […]

    Prominent anti-porn campaigner Letitia Shelton will talk about her work in battling pornography (as CEO of City Women Toowoomba). She will also share her vision about city-wide transformation and how to engage people in it.

    The article also says Ryde’s “population is growing by 2.5 per cent a year – 56 per cent above the national average” with attendant issues such as “traffic congestion, overcrowded schools and hospitals, and increased crime”; but apparently the top two problems confronting the good burghers of the City of Ryde are pornography and prostitution?!

  8. 1735099

    I’m guessing the rifle section he was very briefly part of, and in which he made a right pest of himself, and from which he had to be removed as a liability, must have numbered about 350.

    Which is about 350 more on operational service than you were a member of during your illustrious and oft touted service career which ended in frostbite, apparently…….

  9. Knuckle Dragger

    8th Danielle’s still got chewy in her pigtails at yet another haughty prediction gone b#lls up, much like her Year 9 Legal Studies’ considered analysis of the Batterham matter.

    Fact Check: Undeniably, and hilariously true.

  10. Bruce of Newcastle

    More bullshit from BoN.

    Glad to be proven wrong Numbers.
    And you have stimulated me to do a search, which finds this:

    EU ban on palm-based biodiesel to negatively impact Europe-Asia vegoil trade (4 Nov)

    The EU’s demand for palm-based biodiesel is expected to decrease in the long term due to the region’s ban on the use of palm oil in biofuels.

    On the other hand there’s a bit of inconsistency with this other story from only a couple months earlier.

    EU warns Indonesia about retaliating against biodiesel duties (5 Sep)

    Indonesia’s Trade Minister Enggartiasto Lukita said on Aug. 9 he was recommending to an inter-ministerial team a 20%-25% tariff on EU dairy products as the appropriate response to the EU’s plan to impose 8% to 18% countervailing duty on biodiesel from Indonesia.

    Which seems to suggest the EU isn’t banning palm oil, just putting a tariff on it.
    Typical. Never stand between a hypocritical eurocrat and bucket of money.

  11. 8th Dan

    Frostbite Follies

    Starring The Wanaka 6 in the prequel to Brokeback Mountain.

  12. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘oft-touted’

    By others, not me.

    My career in that field of endeavour was a number of things:

    1. Voluntary, as opposed to failing to game my way out of it;
    2. Longer than yours; and
    3. Failed to consume my life with self-loathing, knowing I was never and would never be better than the bloke beside me.

  13. Shy Ted

    1735099 #3249792, posted on December 2, 2019 at 11:51 am
    And I’ve worked out (and it isn’t difficult) that you manage to brink far Right ideology into everything you post.

    Bring, boy, bring. With a G. Stay after school for remedial spelling. Though I doubt it will help.

  14. Bruce of Newcastle

    When I go to the map on the Fuel Check site and zoom out it shows the Regular Unleaded prices at 12 BP service stations in the Newcastle area.

    Dan – I am talking about the petrolspy Google map. I can’t see the Fuel Check site which is NSW government, it doesn’t come up on my browser.

    Go to the petrolspy site you linked. Then click on the BP servos. I looked at 6 or 8 of them. A few had 91 ULP. A fair number only stocked E10, 98 and diesel. Not much of a choice.

  15. Knuckle Dragger

    Great NZ reference, little girl.

    And gay references.

    No wonder you’re one of the intellectual giants of our time.

  16. Herodotus

    Chris Kenny just had someone who looks like Yasmin Mk.2 – and she’s from GetUp – on to talk incessantly about how necessary the Medevac laws are because without them “people die”.
    Not so worried about drownings.
    Only way to shut her up was to turn the TV off.

  17. Bruce of Newcastle

    Furthermore it’s clear some of the ULP 91 prices are actually for E10, like this one. No way will a BP offer only ethanol free 91, 98 and diesel in Kahibah. It isn’t that sort of suburb.

  18. feelthebern

    Had a look at the ABC website.
    Nothing about the Tracey Spicer news today.
    Funny that.

  19. 8th Dan

    I am talking about the petrolspy Google map. I can’t see the Fuel Check site which is NSW government, it doesn’t come up on my browser.

    I used “picky” instead of “piccy” for a reason upthread. It doesn’t matter which site you go to*, all of the BP servos near you sell Regular Unleaded.

    * Your VPN seems to be limiting your on-line research capabilities.

  20. Diogenes

    Go figure. I don’t have to fill up often as I don’t have to do much driving.

    Local servo (Doyalson) 1.58 at 3am yesterday morning (fuelwatch showing 1:43 at time of posting)
    Servos between northern end of M1 & Maitland showground varied from 1.43 to 1.48 @ 5am yesterday
    Servo across the road from Maitland station 1.34 @ 2:30pm
    Servos on Cessnock Rd @ Kurri Kurri 1.46-8 @ 3pm
    Servos at Cessnock around 1.48-51

  21. Bruce of Newcastle

    Weird how there haven’t been many news items about the putative EU ban on palm oil for biofuel. You’d think it would be in every MSM outlet, seeing it is an environmental story. Guardian, ABC, SMH, they should all be celebrating this great victory for orangutans and biodiversity. Yet all I could find is one story in the Hellenic Shipping News. It’s a mystery.

  22. Tracey Spicer threatens to sue her sources for defamation.

    Uh….

    Maybe she’d be better suing her peroxide and tint manufacturer.

  23. Knuckle Dragger
    #3249817, posted on December 2, 2019 at 12:20 pm

    8th Danielle’s still got chewy in her pigtails at yet another haughty prediction gone b#lls up, much like her Year 9 Legal Studies’ considered analysis of the Batterham matter.

    Fact Check: Undeniably, and hilariously true.

    LOL

    Or, back in the day, ROTFLMAO.

  24. 1735099

    Voluntary, as opposed to failing to game my way out of it;

    Now that is funny.
    I get told over and over again here that I actually, really, definitely “volunteered” because I didn’t join the CMF, and my name was balloted in on 10.03.67.
    Catallaxy, where truth is negotiable, facts entirely malleable, and history regularly rewritten to adhere to a narrative.

  25. Snoopy

    news.com.au

    Lucy*, who works as a journalist, disclosed to Spicer about a “grub” who works in the media in November 2017. A portion of Lucy’s email appeared without Lucy’s knowledge or consent in an embargoed early edition of the documentary circulated to other media in October.

    “I have no idea how many people are now aware of the existence of that email. I don’t understand why Tracey thought it was OK to invite a camera crew into her home, and open her computer in front of them, showing our emails,” Lucy said.

    “Most journalists would go to jail to protect a source, especially a source as vulnerable as a sexual assault or harassment victim.

    “I can’t understand how Spicer could share source information with a single person, let alone a person holding a camera.”

    Lucy’s lawyers wrote to Spicer earlier this month after the privacy breach was revealed, seeking an undertaking that Spicer would destroy the original disclosure, and reveal any other unauthorised uses of it.

    Lucy told news.com.au she “expected an apology”.

    “Instead I got a defamation threat. I couldn’t believe it,” she said. “Tracey has spoken numerous times about how defamation laws in this country are used to silence women and victims from speaking out. Journalists should protect sources, not threaten them.”

    It’s obvious where Lucy fucked up. She mistook Spicer for a journalist.

  26. Bruce of Newcastle

    I used “picky” instead of “piccy” for a reason upthread. It doesn’t matter which site you go to*, all of the BP servos near you sell Regular Unleaded.

    Not that I could see. Maybe fifty fifty. Not my nearest one. Should I believe your website or my lying eyes?

    Your VPN seems to be limiting your on-line research capabilities.

    I turn it off when necessary. But not for NSW Government websites. I may sometimes pray for the NSW Government as the bible says I should, but that doesn’t mean I’m stupid.

  27. Diogenes

    No way will a BP offer only ethanol free 91, 98 and diesel in Kahibah. It isn’t that sort of suburb.

    I have yet to find the magical pump at Charmhaven (only has 4) that dispenses U91 that the Fuel Watch site says it sells.

  28. Johno

    That has never been the question Sniffy. And you know it. The argument has always been that a large proportion of nashos actually did volunteer to go to SVN,WHEN THEY WERE ALREADY IN THE ARMY.

    But you love to shift the goalposts. “The first rule of SPIN is to never answer the question you are asked, instead answer the question you wish you were asked”.

    Every time Sniffy, every time.

  29. Bubbles

    Apparently the Waffleroach has been shooting his big stupid gob off about da climate change. No doubt inspired by another hysterical idiot, Grater Thunberger.

    Inspired indeed by the need to support his creepy son’s green investment trust scam.

  30. Journalists should protect sources, not threaten them

    Tracey Spicer is an oppressor of women and a violator women and their human rights.

  31. cohenite

    sleepy joe bites wife at campaign, no malarkey, meeting in front of dozen of vagrants and other demorat supporters:

    https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2019/11/30/video-joe-biden-chomps-wife-jills-finger-at-iowa-campaign-event/

  32. Tintarella di Luna

    Until then, shut up.

    Children should be seen, and NOT heard.

    And because that adage has not been diligently followed we end up with Sarah Hanson-Young and Adam Bandt, and lamprey-lips from Western Australia

  33. feelthebern

    How long before Sleepy Joe turns up to a campaign event wearing a dressing gown.

  34. Zippy:

    Chinese tech giant Huawei will take a direct swipe at the Morrison government by claiming 1500 “quiet Australians” will lose their jobs due to a ban on its equipment in 5G mobile networks.

    Is that a threat?
    It certainly sounds like one to me.

  35. Entropy

    You really have to wonder who writes this drivel and thinks it’s worthy in a document sent to the owners of the business

    In my experience, the partners generally engage a major consultancy firm for very large sums to produce these documents because independence gives it unquestioned gravity.
    The consultancy partner(s) (aw shucks male, in their fifties) rock up with a couple of underlings who make lots of notes, and get the more senior underling (very, very confident female, in her late twenties) to support them in the inevitable workshop, while the earnest young thing (less confident female, graduate) will do the work writing it up, largely cutting and pasting into templates from previous work, with a few words changed here and there.
    This can cost more than $1 million easy.

  36. Boambee John

    Interesting to see the Seagull and Danielle the 8th operating as a tag team on petrol. Almost as if they are somehow linked together?

  37. Old School Conservative

    Great Moments in Mediation:
    Raelene Castle reminds reporters outside the Federal Court of Israel’s comments at the previous tribunal:
    Israel Folau admitted he caused harm when he said LGBT people were going to hell
    That doesn’t sound like someone looking for common ground.

  38. Bruce of Newcastle

    You have to wonder what Democrats are smoking. Their top candidates to challenge Trump are a 77 year old who gropes women on camera, sucks his wife’s finger while she’s giving a speech, and likes kids feeling his hairy legs, a 70 year old shrieking harridan, a gay guy married to another guy, who disses Christians for not being Christian enough, and a 78 year old who had a heart attack during he campaign and now has two stents in his ticker. And as a millionaire communist is the sanest of the four of them.

  39. 8th Dan

    No way will a BP offer only ethanol free 91, 98 and diesel in Kahibah. It isn’t that sort of suburb.

    Kahibah? Some say it as Kiabah. Yeah, it’s that sort of suburb. I know it so well I could drive a bus around it blindfolded and point out all the places of interest. The BP “servo” there is really just a corner store with a couple of bowsers out the front … always has been … was a run down dump for many years, until the former owners retired a couple of years ago.

  40. Bruce O’Newk:

    Go to the petrolspy site you linked. Then click on the BP servos. I looked at 6 or 8 of them. A few had 91 ULP. A fair number only stocked E10, 98 and diesel. Not much of a choice.

    I strongly suspect a large factor in the supply and stocking of the ethanol/non ethanol fuels comes down to the differing fuel tanks and the interlinking of the individual piping network at each station. Nearly all the transfer pipes are under concrete and it would be expensive to relay them if new types of fuel were to be stocked.

  41. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    You have to wonder what Democrats are smoking.

    Bath Salts territory, straight out of Florida, man.

  42. 8th Dan

    Sorry if anyone is lunching

    Mirror, mirror …

  43. Geriatric Mayfly

    The Donald to hit London again. No news yet of what insults the Great Khan may organise or sanction to greet this foreign head of state. Wending its way along the streets, a travelling tableau of performance art stabbings with the Trumpinator centre stage comes to mind.

  44. Bruce of Newcastle

    Yeah, it’s that sort of suburb.

    Wedged between Charlestown and Glenrock.
    It was fun that when I was working in the labs the new grads would get pads in Charlestown, which was as close to the fleshpots as you could get in the Lake Mac area – Cooks Hill being too far away.

  45. 8th Dan

    Nearly all the transfer pipes are under concrete and it would be expensive to relay them if new types of fuel were to be stocked

    And here’s me thinking that Regular Unleaded isn’t a new type of fuel. I even thought it pre-dated E10.

  46. Helen

    Sad to report on my missing Brolga after his big talk the other day, I found him twisted in fence wires, caught by the very ends of his legs just above his soft black feet. I cried as we released his body and put him in the shade ‘neath a tree, just the maggots already feeding where his breast had touched the ground.

    He must have had a fright and leapt up, into the fence, fallen through and somehow twisted.

    I’m sorry old mate that I didn’t find you sooner.

  47. Fisky

    This doesn’t sound like a regime confident in its imminent victory in the trade war.

    Bloomberg Next China
    @next_china
    China’s central bank chief says “world’s economic downturn will likely stay for a long time” and that monetary policy should be prepared for a “mid- and long-distance race”

  48. Tintarella di Luna

    Helen
    #3249892, posted on December 2, 2019 at 1:45 pm

    Keeping it real, as always Helen, but sad nonetheless.

  49. Farmer Gez

    Just a note on ethanol production in the US.
    The corn mash (stillage) that comes out of the biofuel production is further processed and used as a high value stock feed.

  50. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘mirror, mirror…’

    In this day and age it’s acceptable to be a dumpy fat chick, 8th Danielle.

    You’re not Robinson Crusoe in this wide brown land.

  51. Mother Lode

    Sorry if anyone is lunching – the arrival of the CEO at the mediation between Rugby Australia and Israel Folau

    She has sooooo missed her true vocation in life.

    Out there somewhere is a Gothic Cathedral missing a grotesque carving outside and below the roof that spews out water when it rains.

  52. Bruce of Newcastle

    Sorry to hear about your brolga Helen. Always a sadness. I’m missing an old friend, a grey butcherbird who would sit on my hand. This one. Haven’t seen or heard him for a week. They live in the sun for a while then are no more.

  53. Tintarella di Luna

    In this day and age it’s acceptable to be a dumpy fat chick

    – Knuckle Dragger, the 21st century has yet to dawn for some.

  54. Helen

    They live in the sun for a while and then are no more.

    So true, of every and all, but especially our mates.

  55. Knuckle Dragger

    For some, but not you Tinta.

    You’re a honey. Call it instinct.

  56. Des Deskperson

    Entropy @ 1.14 pm:

    An excellent summary of the consultancy racket.

    What struck me about the , err, product quoted by Judith is its unoriginality and tardiness, these people are getting away with the same stuff – almost word for word – that they were churning out 15 or even 20 years ago.

  57. Shy Ted

    Watching an episode of Top Gear. The Stig doing a lap time in a 1999 Mazda 323 with 6 stacker CD. Coming up to Gambon (the last corner) it looked like he was going to beat the McLaren F1 time but didn’t quite make it, probably because the track was soaking wet and the McLaren was tested on a dry run. Or maybe it was using a 10% ethanol blend.

  58. 1735099

    But you love to shift the goalposts.

    Rubbish.
    I’ve been entirely consistent in my assertion that – Every National Servicemen who went to Vietnam was a volunteer was a myth.
    It was, of course, and now has been removed from the school curriculum, which means that kids are no longer exposed to at least one aspect of Anzackery.
    You spent a lot of time abusing me, in the context of your claim that every single Nasho you encountered was a volunteer. That is an assertion, which can’t be supported in fact, whereas what I have revealed can be, and the ANZAC Day Commemoration Committee eventually conceded that.
    You abused me, accused me of cowardice, and refused to accept the fact that the actual proportion of volunteer Nashos was 15%, based on sampling techniques. I will arrive at a more accurate assessment when I complete the exercise for all 7 RAR personnel on the nominal roll for the second tour.
    The issue of how many Nashos “volunteered” for Vietnam, once called up, is an entirely different question. It’s a meaningless construct, given that they ended up in the Army through an accident of birth, and intention had nothing to do with it. If they were intent on halting the march of Communism they wouldn’t have bothered with the outcome of the ballot. They’d have been in like Flynn.
    A true volunteer (a Nasho that when he was due to register, volunteered) is a very different kettle of fish. Remembering that over 800000 twenty year olds went through the system, and about 16000 of them ended up in country, “volunteering” wasn’t all that popular.

  59. Geriatric Mayfly

    Sorry to hear about your brolga Helen.
    Ditto. All things considered, probably more humane if brolga was whacked by a wind turbine. The odd one appears here from time to time. Negotiating the plague of ugly windmills which has infested the environment just west of here would be a death defying feat.

  60. Shy Ted

    Wow, look at the number of singlets and jumpers those cricketers in Adelaide are wearing to deal with the climate emergency. Willyweather says its 17.8deg but feels like 11.7. And the crowd. I’ve seen more people at the wymmins cricket.

  61. Johno

    Shifty shifty goal posts. You are the dumbest bitch on this blog. You spent your adult life with mentally deficient children and have adopted their ways. You had one chance to associate with adults and act like a man and you blew it.
    Not talking to you anymore, going to watch the cricket. Get back to me when you can answer a question as put to you. Until then STFU.

  62. 8th Dan

    The argument has always been that a large proportion of nashos actually did volunteer to go to SVN

    Fact Check: -False.

    Your argument has always been that all nashos who went to Vietnam were volunteers.

  63. The Beer Whisperer

    “A prominent gay rights campaigner has written to the Anti-Discrimination Board of NSW to accuse ex-
    Wallaby Israel Folau of homosexuality vilification.

    Where’s my 100 grand? I have been vilified even more. After all, I literally have “Beer” as a middle name.

  64. cohenite

    Some numbers are marvellous: 26 for instance is the only number between a square and a cube. And look at the clapped out integer we get.

  65. Tintarella di Luna

    ‘Murder of my girls haunts me every day’

    What an absolute travesty. There is a political party called the Non-Custodial Parents party which has been trying for a least a decade to bring the Family Court to book for its abject failure to protect children, for the bias against fathers (mostly) and for its secrecy and unaccountability.

  66. 8th Dan

    probably more humane if brolga was whacked by a wind turbine … Negotiating the plague of ugly windmills which has infested the environment just west of here would be a death defying feat

    Wire fences … devil’s rope … maims and kills more birds than windmills do. Especially long legged birds like brolgas. Waxing lyrical after the bird has died, trapped, in agony, is a bit much.

  67. Tintarella di Luna

    You’re a honey. Call it instinct.

    awwww shucks Knuckle Dragger – but only on the inside – that’s why I am so glad of your comment that it’s OK to be less than Emily Ratajkowski (or is that more?)

  68. cohenite

    Wire fences … devil’s rope … maims and kills more birds than windmills do.

    No dickless, it doesn’t. Besides, at least wire fences have some utility, windmills for electricity have none, like your dick, and in fact cause great damage to grids, which at least your dick doesn’t do.

  69. Shy Ted

    Reading a book about a trial in NT. One paragraph goes like this – A jury was selected and contained no Indigenous people. While the NT has by far the largest proportion of Indigenous people at 25% it is common for juries to be all white. Part of the reason is that in smaller centres it’s hard to find Indigenous jurors who don’t have some sort of connection to an accused person from their community. Part of it is the lack of official mail services in the town camps of Darwin and Alice. It’s also hard to get people from remote communities which can be hundreds or thousands of kilometres from the nearest courthouse.
    Part of the reason seems to have been missed.

  70. 1735099

    You spent your adult life with mentally deficient children and have adopted their ways.

    You can’t get much lower than that.
    Could be worse – there are still troglodytes who believe that disability is contagious.
    That state of mind is driven by fear and ignorance, rather than malice.
    Malice is always a possibility however, when you look at the quality of most of what this particular troglodyte posts.

  71. zyconoclast

    A prominent gay rights campaigner has written to the Anti-Discrimination Board of NSW, accusing ex-Wallaby Israel Folau of ‘homosexuality vilification’ and demanding he apologises and pays $100,000 to a charity.

    Activist Garry Burns on Sunday wrote to the board’s president complaining about Folau’s infamous April Instagram post in which he warned hell awaits homosexuals.

    From July 2018
    bernardgaynor.com.au

    Now Garry Burns wants the taxpayer to bail him out

  72. Mater

    It was, of course, and now has been removed from the school curriculum, which means that kids are no longer exposed to at least one aspect of Anzackery

    Hang about, Bob. I though there was no such thing as a standard syllabus?

    1735099
    #3205633, posted on November 8, 2019 at 11:39 am

    There is no such thing as the “Australian primary school syllabus” and there hasn’t been for years.
    Curriculum content is chosen at school level within the boundaries set by ACARA – see a sample.
    The choices are influenced largely by the school community, and shaped by location, the SES level of the school, and themes relevant to the locality.

    If, as you say, it is chosen locally, and knowing the teaching fraternity, any required ANZAC inclusion will start and finish with Simpson and his Donkey. It is the most ‘woke’ way of (begrudgingly) fulfilling the requirement.
    Doubt me? Ask any young teenager (who hasn’t done a specialist elective) about Australia’s war history. They haven’t a clue about Australia’s contribution to the Vietnam War, let alone the nuances of the conscription policy.

  73. Cassie of Sydney

    You can’t get much lower than that.
    Could be worse – there are still troglodytes who believe that disability is contagious.
    That state of mind is driven by fear and ignorance, rather than malice.
    Malice is always a possibility however, when you look at the quality of most of what this particular troglodyte posts.”

    Such hypocrisy from the eternal racist and ultimate troglodyte.

  74. JC

    This is incredible.

    In a sign that the election campaign could go down to the wire, Labour has cut the Conservative lead to nine points, a narrowing of two percentage points since YouGov’s last survey on Wednesday.

    In the latest YouGov poll, the Tories are on 43 per cent with ­Labour up two to 34 per cent, the Liberal Democrats static on 13 per cent, and the Brexit Party down to just 2 per cent. That is still enough for a Conservative majority, but if Labour gains two more points it will be touch and go.

    A survey by BMG gave the Tories only a six-point lead on 39 per cent, with Labour up five points to 33 per cent.

  75. Knuckle Dragger

    Wasn’t Liability Bob’s curious assertion about Nashos and sooking not only NOT in any school curriculum, but on a plaque somewhere in our nation’s capital?

    That therefore became an indoctrination for all kiddies? Something they’d remember for the rest of their lives?

    I for one can’t recall being taught anything of significance about that conflict. To the education system’s detriment, naturally.

  76. Knuckle Dragger

    Every time Mater!

    Snap.

  77. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Devil’s rope’?

    Never heard wire called by that name.

    Must be something you have find your way through to graduate as a Level 3 Elf Goddess on fortnite or something.

  78. Cassie of Sydney

    Is 8th Scum the Toowoomba racist in drag?

  79. 8th Dan

    ‘Devil’s rope’?

    Never heard wire called by that name.

    Unsurprising. None at Wanaka. Might be some at Mogadishu, but you made sure not to go there. Actually, you made sure not to go anywhere.

  80. Knuckle Dragger

    Wanaka.

    You’re funny, little girl.

    Bet you watched a lot of the A Team and Magnum PI.

    You know Tom Selleck’s gay, right?

    Any other pompous opinions you’d like dissected?

  81. Knuckle Dragger

    Factoid:

    Simpson, of donkey-related fame was a terrible, terrible hater of the Chooos. It was remarked upon at length by his comrades in arms.

  82. 1735099

    Ask any young teenager (who hasn’t done a specialist elective) about Australia’s war history. They haven’t a clue about Australia’s contribution to the Vietnam War, let alone the nuances of the conscription policy.

    Which has to be an improvement on generations of youngsters conditioned to believe the old lie.

    I wonder about the longevity of any government today which implemented random conscription in peacetime to counter a political threat?
    Millennials would give it short shrift.
    Progress has been made.

  83. feelthebern

    Here’s a superbowl bet for you.
    For the first time ever, black quarterbacks start for both teams.

  84. lotocoti

    952 is another number more interesting than some.

  85. Mother Lode

    Here’s a superbowl bet for you.

    Is a super superbowl a hyperbowl?

    Julia?

  86. Infidel Tiger

    In a sign that the election campaign could go down to the wire, Labour has cut the Conservative lead to nine points, a narrowing of two percentage points since YouGov’s last survey on Wednesday.

    Becuase Corbyn is actually campaigning on issues the electorate cares about – housing affordability, wages, NHS etc.

    Brexit will be forgotten very quickly, these issues are eternal.

  87. Farmer Gez

    Wire fences … devil’s rope … maims and kills more birds than windmills do. Especially long legged birds like brolgas. Waxing lyrical after the bird has died, trapped, in agony, is a bit much.

    What a load of bullshit!
    I’ve never seen a large bird caught on a wire fence. String wrapped around a talon and then caught on a fence is a rare problem. Plenty of Roos get the leg caught.
    Devil’s rope? Put the bong down.

  88. Johno

    KD I just checked up on Tom Sellick to see if he was gay and it appears that the answer is NO. He played a gay character in one of his films. So that may be where the rumour started. I noticed that Jane Fonda and Rosie O’Donnel had both outed him. He sued a newspaper in 1991 for printing that he was gay and won.

    The reason that the lefties would have” outed” him was because he was the spokesman for the NRA. That will send all of them into a tailspin.

  89. Cassie of Sydney

    “Infidel Tiger
    #3249984, posted on December 2, 2019 at 4:40 pm
    In a sign that the election campaign could go down to the wire, Labour has cut the Conservative lead to nine points, a narrowing of two percentage points since YouGov’s last survey on Wednesday.

    Becuase Corbyn is actually campaigning on issues the electorate cares about – housing affordability, wages, NHS etc.

    Brexit will be forgotten very quickly, these issues are eternal.”

    Yep…and the Conservatives are repeating their mistakes from 2017. Whilst I still think that Boris and the Tories will win…..it is not going to be an annihilation.

  90. stackja

    Ausgrid reports that the Sydney suburb of Asquith has lost electricity power.

  91. Kev

    I wonder about the longevity of any government today which implemented random conscription in peacetime to counter a political threat?

    ‘Bung’ Karno had threatened to invade Australia and we were actually fighting a war with the Indons. which was the kick start for the new NS scheme . In September 65 Indons killed hundreds of thousands of their own citizens in what was known as the Gerakan Tiga Puluh September (The 30 September Movement) because the citizens were tainted with communism. Of course, Indons being Indons some of those killed might not have been communists, just people they didn’t like, but overall it sent a message and the communists decided to give Indonesia a miss. They simply maintained pressure in South Vietnam. If Menzies hadn’t looked to bolstering defence in those circumstances he would have been guilty of dereliction of duty.

    It was only ever termed a political decision by communists or useful idiots.

  92. kaysee

    I have some recollection of being berated by a teenager, what’s-her-name, a few months ago:

    “You have stolen my dreams and my childhood with your empty words. And yet I’m one of the lucky ones. People are suffering…….”

     
    Today, I watched this video about the life of another teenager and her words:

    “Look up,” she continued. “Do you have feelings? Do you have honor? I was 14 years old, as old as your daughter, your son, or your sister. You destroyed my life,” she said as she wiped tears from her face.

  93. Knuckle Dragger

    Johno,

    As long as the little muffin top 8th Danielle thinks he’s a penis enthusiast, that’ll do me.

    She’ll be on the helpline for days.

    Gez,

    Of course it’s bullshit. Neither Danielle nor her seven predecessors have ever had dirt on their very comfy shoes, let alone seen a farm.

  94. Old School Conservative

    Well done Mater.

  95. Farmer Gez

    8th Dong needs to get out and save those chickens from the chook wire.
    It’s a death trap, a suicide rap.

  96. JC

    Mark Ruffalo
    @MarkRuffalo
    It’s time for an economic revolution. Capitalism today is failing us, killing us, and robbing from our children’s future.

    and reply back on twitter with link.

    Mark Ruffalo checks out a $10M renovated Upper West Side …
    https://www.6sqft.com › mark-ruffalo-checks-out-a-10m-renovated-upper-…
    Jan 5, 2017 – After a tough stretch of protesting at Standing Rock, Academy Award-winning actor and humanitarian Mark Ruffalo may be treating himself to some pricey NYC real estate. The Post reports that he and wife Sunrise Coigney toured a large, renovated brownstone on the Upper West Side.

  97. Old School Conservative

    You know Tom Selleck’s gay, right?

    NOOOOOOO!

  98. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    “My case was cut and dry — Heather was out of control when we broke up, that’s why we broke up, but I’m the one who got treated like a criminal for 10 years for trying to keep my kids safe.
    “The Family Court got it wrong from start to finish and Legal Aid, who funded Heather, fuelled the fire. Together, they basically forced me to sell every asset I had because they allowed her to make so many allegations against me all paid for by the government, while everything I said was completely discounted.
    “The court-appointed counsellor told me I was too angry. Too right I was angry — but it’s OK to be angry when you’re worried about your kids’ welfare. It’s what you do with that anger.
    “I wanted my girls to be safe. Why else would I have spent 10 years and hundreds of thousands of dollars fighting for them in court? No one wants to take any responsibility and there’s been no justice for my girls.”

    Very similar to my experience and that of my eldest son with the Family Court in Western Australia when trying to remove my grandson from the care of a woman with really florid schizophrenia. The system seems to be run by feminazis and my son was very badly treated, brought to a difficult mental state himself by the stress of it all. Without family support, especially from me, he might have gone under. We were lucky in the end that she became so bad in a public place with the child that his father at last gained care of him; and he is now the wonderful sixteen year old I have had the privilege of helping to bring up. Until he was four though, his life was made very difficult and dangerous with her various druggie and psycho boyfriends punching him and her own drugged suicide attempt when the child found her and had to find help, aged three. There were various Court decisions concerning his mother’s ‘rights’, and in NSW the DOCS treatment of our concerns for the child during periods when he stayed with his mother was both perfunctory and dismissive. Worst time in my life, as I have said here before, and I feel so much for this father and his slaughtered children.

  99. Mater

    Mark Ruffalo checks out a $10M renovated Upper West Side …

    Well, the elites do need their Dachas.

  100. Geriatric Mayfly

    String wrapped around a talon

    Far worse is fishing nylon irresponsibly chucked away on streams and lakes.

  101. Bruce of Newcastle

    Mark Ruffalo
    @MarkRuffalo
    It’s time for an economic revolution. Capitalism today is failing us, killing us, and robbing from our children’s future.

    Every time he gets angry he turns into a big green marxist.

  102. lotocoti

    Capitalism today is failing us, killing us, and robbing from our children’s future.

    Someone’s pissed they got shafted on residuals and a points cut.

  103. JC

    Mark Ruffalo
    @MarkRuffalo
    I’m a husband, father, actor, director, and a climate change advocate with an eye on a better, brighter, cleaner, more hopeful future for all of us.

  104. 8th Dan

    These species have been reported as victims of barbed wire fencing:

    Kookaburra, Galah, Rock Dove, Australian Magpie, White-winged Chough, Metallic Starling
    Royal Spoonbill, Silver Gull, White-faced Heron, White-necked (Pacific) Heron, Short-tailed shearwater, Australian Pelican, Nankeen Night Hern, Buff-banded Rail, Little Button-quail, Red-chested Button-quail, Lathams Snipe, Bush Stone-curlew, Black-fronted Dotterel, Masked lapwing, Rainbow Lorikeet, Red-rumped parrot, Sulphut-crested Cockatoo, Little Corella, Night Parrot, Bourke’s Parrot, Yellow-tailed Black Cockatoo, Nankeen Kestrel, Wedge-tailed Eagle, Brown Falcon, Peregrine Falcon, Australian Hobby, Chestnut-breated Quail-thrush, Common Bronzewing, Flock Bronzewing, Crested Pidgeon, Inland Dotterel, Galah, Australian Ringneck, Budgerigar, Zebra Finch, Southern Boobook, Barn Owl, Grass Owl, Tawny Frogmouth, Australian Owlet-nightjar, Masked Owl
    Sarus Crane, Brolga, Australian Bustard, Southern Cassowary

  105. cohenite

    The hyena beattie’s legacy lives on:

    Scrapping defective Paradise Dam a live option
    Michael McKenna The Australian December 1, 2019

    A massive reduction in storage ­capacity or even the decommissioning of Queensland’s defective Paradise Dam are among options being considered in a blow to the surrounding agriculture region. As the NSW Supreme Court delivered its findings into the negligen­ce of Wivenhoe Dam operato­rs ahead of the 2011 Brisban­e floods, the Palaszczuk government bowed to pressure to ­announce an inquiry into the Paradise Dam, near Bundaberg, which has an “unacceptable risk” of breaking apart during a flood.
    After months of refusing to ­explain a decision to release 105,000ML of water into the ocean in the middle of a drought, it was confirmed on Friday that there are major structural issues in the “rolled concrete” layers of the 52m-tall dam wall.
    Documents released with the announcement of the inquiry, to be headed by retired Queensland Supreme Court judge John Byrne, show ­extensive problems with the bonding of the concrete layers were discovered in 2006, less than a year after the 300,000ML dam was opened. The $200m dam was built under the Beattie government by joint public-private ­“alliance” vehicle­ Burnett Water. Its general manager, Graeme Newton, now heads the construction of the $5.4bn Cross River Rail project in Brisbane….

  106. Top Ender

    A woman has brought the charred remains of her bushfire-ravaged home to Parliament House in Canberra, accusing both major political parties of failing to act on climate change.

    Melinda Plesman and her partner Dean Kennedy lost their family home of 38 years when bushfires tore through Nymboida, south of Grafton in NSW, early last month.

    Today she took part in a Greenpeace demonstration calling for action from Australia’s leaders.

    The grandmother brought fire-blackened items salvaged from her burnt her home to Canberra to show Prime Minister Scott Morrison what she said was the direct result of climate change.

    ABC (of course) link

  107. Bruce of Newcastle

    Melinda Plesman and her partner Dean Kennedy lost their family home of 38 years when bushfires tore through Nymboida

    Sad they lost their home.
    Nymboida is a tree changey greeny sort of place.
    With lots of eucalypts.
    If they thought global warming was going to cause more bushfires why would you choose to live in a place like that?

  108. feelthebern

    ABC still not reporting on Tracey Spicer threatening to sue her sources.

  109. Overburdened

    https://youtu.be/tG2P7MaEhcg

    Not what I usually post here. Bit of a vlog of some blokes surfing Hawaii’s north shore.

    Not a bad spot for the locals.

    The reason why I am putting it up is because of what happens to one bloke in the first few minutes of the vid.

    First surf back for him after a significant injury.

    I wonder if Tailgunner or others may have had the same experience.

    I have had it twice.

    I reckon something’s going on.

    It may be one of Hughie’s lessons.

  110. Geriatric Mayfly

    The grandmother brought fire-blackened items salvaged from her burnt her home to Canberra

    The presentation sent DiNatale into another vortical spin of incendiary outrage; his second for the day sparked by global warming. Does anyone think he or the Greens give a stuff about the grandmother’s burnt home ?

  111. Snoopy

    The presentation sent DiNatale into another vortical spin of incendiary outrage;

    If DiNatale really cared he could reduce his family’s carbon footprint by 100% in an instant.

  112. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Melinda Plesman and her partner Dean Kennedy lost their family home of 38 years when bushfires tore through Nymboida

    From the link.

    She called on Mr Morrison to set a price on carbon, phase out native forest logging, immediately shift Australia towards renewable energy and stop mining coal.

  113. JC

    DiNatale

    I could swear I saw him at a petrol station in Melbourne today also filling up . If it wasn’t him, the dude I saw should get some serious plastic surgery done to change his looks.

  114. Shy Ted

    Ten News brief item about overseas interference in our parliament and at elections. Gets a quote from…. Sam Dastyari. Says he’s a victim of their “subtle overtures” or some such bollocks.

  115. Overburdened

    BoN

    As you would recall, people with a penchant for building and or living in houses on the top of escarpments and then into the bush in the Katoomba region were shocked when the nature of the Australian bush, elementary thermo dynamics and the said houses came together.

    This led to a bylaw allowing the clearing of trees within a certain distance of a dwelling in NSW, which naturally led to people chopping down trees for financial advantage and enhanced aesthetics, just because they could in some cases.

  116. Roger

    Melinda Plesman and her partner Dean Kennedy lost their family home of 38 years when bushfires tore through Nymboida

    She wants the prime minister to set a price on carbon, phase out native forest logging, immediately shift Australia towards renewables and stop mining coal.

    The Greens’ policy agenda…surprise, surprise!

  117. Roger

    She wants the prime minister to set a price on carbon, phase out native forest logging, immediately shift Australia towards renewables and stop mining coal.

    If you really want to stop the bushfires, lady, call for a phase out of native forests!

  118. Nick

    Melinda Plesman and her partner Dean Kennedy lost their family home of 38 years when bushfires tore through Nymboida

    you’d never think we had bushfires in Australia prior to 2000.

  119. Some History

    There we have it – Poncharse Pirate, sans bandana, is god: “If you say that gays are going to hell, you are wrong. You are wrong”.

    Margaret Court debate gets heated on live TV

    https://www.news.com.au/sport/sports-life/margaret-court-debate-gets-heated-on-live-tv/news-story/526519e43471e4a76fe4e9372b1a2e79

  120. Knuckle Dragger

    For the record, 8th Danielle of the muffin top, pigtails and emo makeup’s link is to a handful of punters from Brisbane called Wildlife Friendly Fencing. Their stated aim is to save the lives of bats, so that’s strike one.

    Strikes two and three are their most recent research (1993) and the nationwide campaign to cover the top strands of fences with thin poly pipe, which sorta negates the point of having barbed wire in the first place.

    Naturally, fences are also apparently responsible for animal deaths caused by uncontainable fires, which are in turn caused by climate change.

    Get this. Their solution is for farmers to dig tunnels at the base of fences so animals can get through. I am not kidding.

    They’re a cheery lot though. You can support them by buying their cat stickers. No mention of ‘devil’s rope’ though.

    World-class, ocean-going floggery.

  121. Overburdened

    May I say that based of first hand observation of the people of Nymboida, there are a lot of handy people up there and know what to do to save life and property.

    There is also the minority who couldn’t find their own arse with 2 hands, a mirror and a bright light.

    Same as everywhere.

    It is also steep in parts, and surrounded by forest.

    The bloke who is pencilled in to do the beach shack revitalisation is one of the most can do people I have known, based on an over 30 year relationship.

    He has been evacuated from his home in a different location for 2 weeks or so.

    As he said in conversation, what can you do when it happens.

  122. johanna

    For doggie fans, and anyone who enjoys watching how animals learn how to have fun:

  123. cohenite

    Credlin and that shanahan bloke agreeing you can never be sure a RoP terrorist will recant and therefore they should never be released. Baby steps; in a year or 2’s time after a few more RoP festivities I’m sure they’ll go to the next level and appreciate you can’t have any RoP members running around. Of course by then it’ll be far too late.

  124. johanna

    Reminds me of watching cockies stripping the rubber seals off freeway lights to just the point where they would hold their weight, and then swinging gleefully off them. A bizarre and wondrous sight at 3am on the way home from a night out.

  125. Overburdened

    Roger

    Nymboida is full of these deluded dickheads.

    This does not mean they’re not competent in all cases, and I must say I have been optimistically surprised by the good stuff a lot of them have.

    They are irrational when given time to think.

    There is no scope in their thinking that they could be wrong, and from a professional standpoint I think that is always a problem.

    In spite of this, credit where it is due for those of them that know stuff.

  126. Overburdened

    As it should be, the majority of us will carry them, and have shit put on us for it.

  127. zyconoclast

    SMH would have been cool if he was into ladyboys or emulated Gary Glitter…

    George Christensen ‘a regular’ at Philippines adult entertainment bar: manager

    Marjorie Lamsen, the manager of one bar, Ponytails, claimed the federal politician was a “very regular visitor” at the venue.

    Ms Lamsen, who said she had worked at the bar for six years, said: “He was always very good… He was a big spender”.

    “It was well known that he went to other bars in the areas,” she told Nine News, The Age and The Herald.

    “The weakness of George is women. He would usually give allowances to these people.

  128. Overburdened

    KD

    Yes.

    The good old taxpayer will then be forced to put in giant parasols in school yards to protect the children from bat droppings and the potential health risks of same. I will cite Maclean High School as an example.

    It can be said that fruit bats are delicious dressed and cooked.

  129. Roger

    There is no scope in their thinking that they could be wrong…

    Overburdened, in other words they are fanatics.

  130. Some History

    On the heels of Poncharse Pirate, the “righteous” Goth Castle, moat lowered, also imparts pro-poofistry “wisdom”.

    Rugby Australia ‘doing what’s right’ in defending Folau lawsuit: Castle

    https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/rugby-australia-doing-what-s-right-in-defending-folau-lawsuit-castle-20191202-p53fxq.html

  131. Cassie of Sydney

    “zyconoclast
    #3250060, posted on December 2, 2019 at 6:30 pm
    SMH would have been cool if he was into ladyboys or emulated Gary Glitter…

    George Christensen ‘a regular’ at Philippines adult entertainment bar: manager”

    Perhaps the SMH could do a piece on politicians who have frequented Thai massage parlours in inner city Sydney.

  132. Geriatric Mayfly

    It can be said that fruit bats are delicious dressed and cooked.

    Frightbats not so much. Either all fat, or scrawny tough sinew. No happy medium.

  133. Shy Ted

    Q&A leading by example tonight, broadcasting from Fiji, if it hasn’t been swamped by rising sea levels. No planets were harmed in the making of this episode. Only emission-free aircraft were used. Prizes for guessing what WON’T be discussed. Me? Rainbow stuff.

  134. Entropy

    This led to a bylaw allowing the clearing of trees within a certain distance of a dwelling in NSW, which naturally led to people chopping down trees for financial advantage and enhanced aesthetics, just because they could in some cases.

    Not that there is anything wrong with that.

  135. Nick

    Perhaps the SMH could do a piece on politicians who have frequented Thai massage parlours in inner city Sydney.

    Yes. Let’s look at all the bars and clubs our politicians visit, both home and abroad.

  136. Some History

    The “righteous” Goth Castle (unmodified)

    https://imgur.com/tUSqLFg

  137. Roger

    Rugby Australia ‘doing what’s right’ in defending Folau lawsuit: Castle

    I’m so old I can remember when liberals and progressives decried those who sought to impose their morality on others (or so they thought).

    Now liberals and progressives are those very people – you will support homosexuality or we will hound you from the public square.

  138. Bruce of Newcastle

    FitzSimons: “If you say that gays are going to hell, you are wrong, you are wrong.”

    So Fitz knows this? Despite a book older than 1,900 years which says otherwise. And another book about 1,300 years old saying approximately the same thing. Which means something like four billion people more or less agree that unrepentant gays are going to hell.

    But Fitz categorically says they won’t, without any reasoning except his own says so. And Margaret Court and Israel Folau are nuts despite being two of those four billion. Okaaay.

  139. Juan

    George Christensen ‘a regular’ at Philippines adult entertainment bar: manager

    Marjorie Lamsen, the manager of one bar, Ponytails, claimed the federal politician was a “very regular visitor” at the venue.

    Ms Lamsen, who said she had worked at the bar for six years, said: “He was always very good… He was a big spender”.
    Photos or it didn’t happen.

    But if there are photos, (may his) God help him.

  140. JC

    But if there are photos, (may his) God help him.

    Rudd was hanging around strip joints and he became PM for a couple of years. Big deal.

  141. Juan

    My apologies, my comment above should have had zyconoclast‘s comment as a blockquote.

  142. Entropy

    George is certainly big. No doubt about that.

  143. Roger

    But Fitz categorically says they won’t, without any reasoning except his own says so.

    A fallacious appeal to his own authority!

    Actually, Bruce, the error of homosexuality is evident from natural law without recourse to scripture.

  144. Bruce of Newcastle

    Q&A leading by example tonight, broadcasting from Fiji, if it hasn’t been swamped by rising sea levels.

    Highest mountain in Fiji: 1,324 metres

  145. 1735099

    you will support homosexuality or we will hound you from the public square

    So saying that it’s not necessarily true that “Gays will all go to hell” is supporting homosexuality?
    You can’t tell the difference between Christian compassion and dogma.

  146. stackja

    TA has visited his friend GP.
    The usual suspects are unhappy.
    Any link probably not work because of pedal word.

  147. Tel

    If you really want to stop the bushfires, lady, call for a phase out of native forests!

    Australia could easily dominate world olive production, simply by replacing worthless bushfire prone scrubland with nice plantation trees. Olive trees can burn but they are reluctant to do so, and won’t give you the lethal fires we get today. They are drought tolerant, even if you give them nothing at all they will at least survive although you won’t get much of a crop. They can also withstand occasional floods.

    We could have jobs, foreign dollars coming in the door, the vegans and animal rights wowsers can’t complain, and it’s completely sustainable with trees that are productive for many hundreds of years.

    Once the trees are properly established you can use the same land for small animals like free range chickens, etc.

  148. stackja

    Homosexuals, of course, can’t quite plainly, naturally reproduce.

  149. Bruce of Newcastle

    You can’t tell the difference between Christian compassion and dogma.

    Numbers, the report on Seven just now included a video Folau made in the last day or so that he “share[s] passages from the Bible as a gesture of love”. I agree. It is a loving thing to alert someone that they are in great peril of going to hell. How else will they know that?

  150. stackja

    CARRATHOOL SHIRE COUNCIL Various roads
    FLOODING
    Started 04/10/2018 8:56am, last checked today 9:08am
    Impact: Impact Road closed in both directions.
    Attending: Local Council
    Advice: Avoid the area
    Use an alternative route
    Other Info:
    The following roads in the Carrathool Shire are closed due to flooding:

    Gunbar Booligal Rd
    Carrathool Rd

    ‘Climate change’?

  151. Tel

    FitzSimons: “If you say that gays are going to hell, you are wrong, you are wrong.”

    Gosh … I’ve never seen it explained right through from first principles like that. Great use of proof by repetition there.

    Q.E.D.

  152. Bruce of Newcastle

    We could have jobs, foreign dollars coming in the door, the vegans and animal rights wowsers can’t complain, and it’s completely sustainable with trees that are productive for many hundreds of years.

    Quite so!
    Hunter Valley Olive Producers
    What could possibly be better than Hunter olives and Hunter wine?
    Although I admit after dinner I’m imbibing a red from WA right now. 😀

  153. JC

    CARRATHOOL SHIRE COUNCIL

    Hey Stack, where the fuck is that?

  154. cohenite

    The response of the feds to the drought and in particular the protest about the management (sic) of the MDB is a suicide note.

    I do feel sorry for scomo though; he has a majority of 1; and in his team are the fucking possum man whose staff are suing him for bullying, a group including Wilson, the biggest disappointment in parliament, and sharma who meet regularly with the bastard bandt about the end of the world, the chink dame who hasn’t explained her affiliations with china, the nats who are completely woke except for BJ who at the current rate will have fathered a cricket team by the next election. How can the poor bastard deal with that lot of dickheads?

  155. Overburdened

    While I was venturing into the world of trending videos- which is much like the decreasing number of gigs I do. I go there so you don’t have to- I suspended credulity for the first little bit.

    It shits all over television.

    People putting their vision out there.

    I think it’s rubbish but at least it’s fresh.

  156. Bruce of Newcastle

    ‘Climate change’?

    Snow too.

    New South Wales Alps Become Winter Wonderland on Second Day of Australian Summer

    Out-of-season summer snow blanketed ski fields and Australia’s alpine regions in white on the morning of December 2.

    Global warming is amazing like that.

  157. Overburdened

    Roger

    Fanatics/ fuckwits

    tomAto/ tomarto

  158. Overburdened

    Same dog different leg action

  159. Overburdened

    Entropy

    Clearly not coz they could.

    I see it as spreading democracy by instituting the parliamentary rule of vested interests disguised as moral principles.

  160. Carbon Emitter

    JC
    CARRATHOOL SHIRE COUNCIL

    Hey Stack, where the fuck is that?

    Near Hay NSW

  161. Arky

    FitzSimons: “If you say that gays are going to hell, you are wrong, you are wrong.”

    ..
    Define hell.
    Define homosexual.
    Define wrong.
    All matters of conjecture and opinion, and not reason for termination.
    Are all Australian sportsmen thickies?

  162. Bruce of Newcastle

    I hope Folau extracts all $14 million from RA by some mechanism roughly equivalent to the garbage compactor Han, Luke, Leia and Chewbacca were stuck in. Stick a bucket under it to collect the dollars.

    That would hopefully send a message to all sporting associations in Australia to:

    1. stay right away from politics
    2. stay right away from religion
    3. stay right away from SJW fads
    4. stick to sport, sport and nothing but sport

  163. max

    Jaqui-jaqui won’t say what it is she wants from Morrison for her vote, other than to say it is to do with defence.

    Defence is her area of expertise having risen from the ranks to corp and directed all that army traffic. Real top secret, hush-hush stuff

  164. Top Ender

    Actually won a spirited debate this morning with a climate change enthusiast.

    Points hammered home into his head:

    1) people want real evidence, not projected or imagined. Fort Denison and Bondi Beach photos, for example, show no sea level rise

    2) repeated falsehoods shown to be untrue have destroyed the climate change fanbase argument; eg: the Barrier Reef is clearly not dying. Nor has the human population died off as predicted in the 1970s; oil disappeared, etc. So the “we’re all doomed” card is not an ace but a three.

    3) people are sick of high electricity prices and want them to decrease

    4) China and India apparently can do as they like on “emissions” so why should we sacrifice our economy for nothing

    and finally and most tellingly

    5) do we really think we can control the climate, when all through Earth’s existence it has changed radically, massively, and irreversibly?

    End of argument: live with it.

    Then again, he does have a science degree and is not a complete loon.

  165. stackja

    Just Cranky confused again.
    I am shocked!

  166. Herodotus

    Nicholas Reece on Credlin’s panel – TV “off”.

  167. JC

    Define hell.
    Picture this dude with this woman. This is hell for her.

    Define homosexual. Are you kidding? Cronkite.
    Define wrong. Cronkite.

  168. Bruce of Newcastle

    Grey butcherbird I thought had vanished was in the camellia when I went outside just now.
    He jumped onto my hand to collect a lump of meat for dinner.
    I retract the earlier funeral notice.
    It’s so nice to be wrong sometimes!

    I admit I’ve a second family of grey butcherbirds too, on the other side of the house. Mum and dad both will take food from the hand (but not sit on it, what a horrible idea!). They had a small squeaky kid with them today: another generation of grey butcherbirds in training.

  169. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    FitzSimons: “If you say that gays are going to hell, you are wrong, you are wrong.”

    correct they are already in hell

  170. Juan

    Photos or it didn’t happen.

    But if there are photos, (may his) God help him.

    Rudd was hanging around strip joints and he became PM for a couple of years. Big deal.

    Let me stress I do not know if these reports are true and I’m not suggesting they are, and I’m not biased against Christensen. I’m happy to state now if there are no photos — especially in this age of ubiquitous camera-equipped phones and CCTV everywhere — he is in the clear.

    But, as I said earlier, if photos do emerge of George Christensen in Ponytails, people are going to ask some questions — like, what happens in a place like that?

    Well, a quick Google search turned up this up ‘information resource’ on Ponytails:

    Ponytails has reasonable prices. They have gone up over the years, but they’re still not nearly as high as what some of the big Walking Street bars charge with their “models”. Drinks are less than a hundred pesos. Lady drinks are 200 Pesos ($3.85 USD). The barfine, or early work release, is 2500 Pesos ($48 USD).

    A lot will depend of what people make of the “barfine, or early work release,” and what that might lead to.

    More worryingly, this was the second ‘review’, if you can call them that, Google returned about the venue. Suffice to say, the first one could not be quoted from on family-friendly blog such as this!

  171. JC

    and what that might lead to.

    It would lead to nothing. George is too fat to have sex even with himself.

  172. Bruce of Newcastle

    Damn

    Doing well there JC…

    This site can’t be reachedThe webpage at https://tinyurl.com/vwu6ml8 might be temporarily down or it may have moved permanently to a new web address.

  173. Roger

    So saying that it’s not necessarily true that “Gays will all go to hell” is supporting homosexuality?

    Now there’s a non sequitur.

    LOL.

  174. Overburdened

    George is a bisexual.

    If you can’t get it at home (homosexual) you gotta go out n buy it.

  175. Tel

    Melinda Plesman and her partner Dean Kennedy lost their family home of 38 years when bushfires tore through Nymboida, south of Grafton in NSW, early last month.

    How much time did they spend volunteering at the local RFS? Clearing the area around their property? Getting up on the roof and going through the gutters? Stick picking in winter and racking up everything down to a small twig.

    A few generations ago Australians would be embarrassed to dump their own problems at the foot of government, but now everything has changed.

  176. Geriatric Mayfly

    What a busy day for DiNatale. Earler totally overcome with hyperbowl trying to create a link between bushfires and global warming. Now on his hind trotters batting for those “critically ill” on Manus and Nauru. How many of those dead and dying who have sneaked in the back door, refused to either be examined or go to hospital when they arrived? DiNatale is not telling.

  177. Roger

    Tel @ 7:12:

    Olive trees +1, a lot of potential there.

    I’ve nothing against preserving eucalypts, especially as a habitat for native fauna, but they need to be managed if human beings are going to choose to dwell among/next to them.

  178. Bruce of Newcastle

    Juan – Here’s tonight’s Nein news report:

    Government MP George Christensen’s extensive travel to south-east Asia under fresh scrutiny

    Mr Christensen, a committed Christian, says he met his now-wife April Asuncion while in the Philippines in 2017.

    Nine News, The Age and The Herald have seen documents which suggest Ms Asuncion was an employee at the Ponytails bar.

    An employment card shows her listed as an entertainer at the venue.

    The Balibago Barangay Social Hygiene Clinic confirmed the documents were legitimate but a letter from Mr Christensen’s lawyers on Monday said the documents were fraudulent.

    So he met and married a lady who might or might not have been a bar girl. So what? She appears to be a Christian like he is. Christians are forgiven not sinless.

    So he spends a couple months or so in the Philippines each year with his wife. So what? I suspect she doesn’t have Australian residency yet. And her family are in the Philippines. What else would anyone expect?

    I very much doubt he is travelling at Australian taxpayer expense or you’d be hearing the outrage on Mars. So he’s spending his own money. Sounds fine to me.

    This whole thing smells like a typical lefty MSM hit job.

  179. Geriatric Mayfly

    Recalling the day the Jack Russell took off after a wallaby in the Wombat State Forest. Spent hours doing the rounds looking for the little bastard. Firstly, I was amazed at the number of houses hiding in that patch of timber and secondly, how vulnerable the majority of them would be to a fire encouraged by a manic summer northerly gale. Global warming will not be part of the equation.

  180. Roger

    This whole thing smells like a typical lefty MSM hit job.

    Are they morally unimpeachable?

    “Let him who is without sin…”

  181. Cassie of Sydney

    “This whole thing smells like a typical lefty MSM hit job.”

    Not smells……stinks….the lefty MSN hit job have been out to get Christensen for a long time and now given that Abbott is now gone I wouldn’t be surprised if they target Christensen the way they did Abbott…although I reckon that the voters of Dawson have more sense than the voters of Warringah.

  182. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Recalling the day the Jack Russell took off after a wallaby in the Wombat State Forest. Spent hours doing the rounds looking for the little bastard. Firstly, I was amazed at the number of houses hiding in that patch of timber and secondly, how vulnerable the majority of them would be to a fire encouraged by a manic summer northerly gale

    I live in an area prone to bushfires – we lost a house ten years ago. I’m surprised at how few precautions some people take, and how many fuckwits have no idea what the words “total fire ban” mean.

  183. Snoopy

    Scratch a lefty and you’ll reveal a racist.

  184. mh

    Juan, what are you imagining Big George is doing with those little Filipina chicks?

    Are you afraid of them getting squashed?

  185. Cassie of Sydney

    “Snoopy
    #3250145, posted on December 2, 2019 at 8:27 pm
    Scratch a lefty and you’ll reveal a racist.”

    Oh yes…we have one here who, once upon a time, went to Vietnam.

  186. JC

    Abbott visited Pell in Jail.

    The father of the “R” had this to say.

    Pell’s trial heard evidence from J only. R died of drug abuse in 2014.

    On Monday, R’s father said he was surprised by Mr Abbott’s visit and Pell’s high-profile supporters would have “egg on their faces” if the High Court dismissed Pell’s appeal. “I was quite surprised somebody who has such a high profile as Mr Abbott would be supporting a convicted pedophile,” the father said.

    He said he thought people still supported Pell because they didn’t know what was said during the criminal trial. “If it came out what went on in the trial, they would be horrified,” he said.

    “He still has his supporters, he still has his so-called friends … I’m not one who’s bitter about it, so be it. If that’s who they want to support, so be it, but to me they don’t know the full facts.”

    Was there anything that wasn’t public at the trial or is he just bullshitting?

  187. JC

    Abbott visited Pell in Jail.

    The father of the “R” had this to say.

    Pell’s trial heard evidence from J only. R died of drug abuse in 2014.

    On Monday, R’s father said he was surprised by Mr Abbott’s visit and Pell’s high-profile supporters would have “egg on their faces” if the High Court dismissed Pell’s appeal. “I was quite surprised somebody who has such a high profile as Mr Abbott would be supporting a convicted p*d *ph*le,” the father said.

    He said he thought people still supported Pell because they didn’t know what was said during the criminal trial. “If it came out what went on in the trial, they would be horrified,” he said.

    “He still has his supporters, he still has his so-called friends … I’m not one who’s bitter about it, so be it. If that’s who they want to support, so be it, but to me they don’t know the full facts.”

    Was there anything that wasn’t public at the trial or is he just bullshitting?

  188. Roger

    Not smells……stinks….the lefty MSN hit job have been out to get Christensen for a long time

    I wonder why?

  189. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Hinch calls Abbott visit with Pell a ‘cruel insult’

    Tessa Akerman
    Reporter
    @TessaAkerman
    5:15PM December 2, 2019

    Former prime minister Tony ­Abbott has come under fire for reportedly visiting convicted pedophile George Pell in Melbourne Assessment Prison.

    Mr Abbott was filmed by the Seven Network on Monday leaving the remand centre after a 45-minute visit. When asked about the visit, he said: “Look, I was ­simply visiting a friend, that’s all.”

    Former Victorian senator Derryn Hinch said the visit was a “cruel insult” to those sexually ­assaulted by the cardinal.

    “For Tony Abbott, a former prime minister, to visit Pell, a convicted pedophile, is a disgrace and a cruel insult to his victims,” he wrote on Twitter.

    Mr Abbott has been criticised previously for reaching out to Pell following his conviction by the Victorian County Court.

    In March, Mr Abbott told Sydney radio station 2GB that he ­“absolutely” accepted the jury’s verdict but had telephoned Pell nonetheless.

    “There’s a verdict that’s been delivered, a damning verdict against a friend of mine,” he said.

    He also said the pair had been “friends for a long time”.

    “I’m not a fair-weather friend and this was someone who was going through a very, very bad experience,” Mr Abbott said. “I’m not saying he’s the only one going through bad experiences, but he has been a friend of mine for a long time and at times like this you’ve got to feel for people.”

    Pell was convicted in December last year on one charge of sexual penetration with a child under 16 and four counts of indecent act with, or in the presence of, a child under 16, relating to two separate incidents in 1996 and 1997.

  190. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Comment in moderation – seems Derryn Hinch is going on about what a disgrace it is that Abbott visited Pell in the tronk.

  191. Snoopy

    If only George had the habits of say, a Gillard?

  192. Geriatric Mayfly

    Not smells……stinks….the lefty MSN hit job have been out to get Christensen for a long time

    Just his name would drive them insane. He should change it to Mohammedsojn.

  193. Juan

    So he met and married a lady who might or might not have been a bar girl. So what? She appears to be a Christian like he is. Christians are forgiven not sinless.

    So, Bruce, how many committed Christians do you know who go into ‘bars’ with a “barfine, or early work release,” on their pricelist, bars such as these? (You’ll note Ponytails is in the ‘Filipino Sin-City’, Angeles City.)

    And as I said, it comes down to the photos, if any exist. Photos of ‘gentlemen’ in such establishments tend not to show their subject in, shall we say, the best light.

  194. Tintarella di Luna

    If only George had the habits of say, a Gillard?

    You mean sleeping with other women’s husbands?

  195. Tintarella di Luna

    seems Derryn Hinch is going on about what a disgrace it is that Abbott visited Pell in the tronk.

    I reckon Derryn’s jealous ’cause no-one visited him while he was in the tronk

  196. Narwhal Tusk

    I’ve been observing Numbers inanities since he hung around on Bolta’s blog years ago.
    Still sprouting the same old nonsense.
    How can a so called educated person be so thick.Thick as the proverbial brick.
    Remember Uncle Ho’s offsider General Giap aka Credibility Giap?
    Thats Numbers name for me.
    Credibility Giap.

  197. Juan

    Are you afraid of them getting squashed?

    They have different OH&S rules in Asia. For instance:

  198. Nick

    If only George had the habits of say, a Gillard?

    Or even a litigious politician

  199. Tintarella di Luna

    FitzSimons: “If you say that gays are going to hell, you are wrong, you are wrong.”

    Red Bandanaman knows everything because he’s had someone else research it for him, so he knows.

  200. Diogenes

    the vegans and animal rights wowsers can’t complain,

    What about the koalas and the 1001 animals that call eucalypts home ?

    I had an extra period today in science after lunch and went to the science staff room at half time to pick up my lesson, interestingly the conversation was about Scoldilocks and CAGW, all of them bar 1 were bagging out the whole concept, and they were picking apart the arguments. I believe the one true believer was banging on about the NT solar farm supplier just before I came in, and the takedown was spectacular using all the arguments I have seen here on the Cat.

  201. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    seems Derryn Hinch is going on about what a disgrace it is that Abbott visited Pell in the tronk.

    So, Hunch has now received his latest orders from his RC overlords.
    Hunch has been the lackey of certain corrupt elements within the RC Church since I was producing the newsletter back in the Eighties.
    Not that Abbott visiting Pell is anything to take comfort from. Abbott’s sole reason for doing anything is to rebuild his political career. He’d visit Satan himself if he thought there was a vote in it.

    The more things change the more they stay the same.

  202. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Darwin and Townsville are now considered more dangerous than poverty-stricken African capitals of Kenya and Zimbabwe

    Townsville and Darwin are considered more dangerous than African cities
    Darwin is Australia’s worst crime-ridden city sitting at number 56 on world ranks
    Townsville was ranked 62nd in the world, in terms of crime rampant in the city

    Daily Mail.

  203. Diogenes

    Must not type after 2 Straits Slings …
    “solar farm supplying Singapore just”

  204. Juan

    If you can’t get it at home (homosexual) you gotta go out n buy it.

    Ironically, we’re discussing this a day after In Western Australia this year more straight men were diagnosed with HIV than gay men,” was a topic du jour on this forum.

    Based on yesterday’s reactions I’m guessing his picadillos might lose Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault‘s vote but he’ll pick up Stimpson J. Cat‘s! 🤣

  205. Bruce of Newcastle

    Abbott visited Pell in Jail.

    JC – There’s a very simple explanation.

    36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’

    37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’ Mt 25:36-39

    And for Juan:

    10 While Jesus was having dinner at Matthew’s house, many tax collectors and sinners came and ate with him and his disciples. 11 When the Pharisees saw this, they asked his disciples, “Why does your teacher eat with tax collectors and sinners?”

    12 On hearing this, Jesus said, “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. 13 But go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice.’ For I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.” Mt 9:10-13

    “And acknowledgement of God, not burnt offerings” says the rest of the verse Jesus quoted.

  206. cohenite

    WTF are you going on about head prefect; and your links don’t work. Hahahaha.

    Anyway give us a kiss.

  207. Leigh Lowe

    Abbott visited Pell in Jail.
    The father of the “R” had this to say.

    Allow me to paraphrase.
    R Senior is hoping for a whopping payout from the Catholic Church because his junkie son was whipped away from him (although I am led to that believe R Senior had pissed off some time prior).
    R Senior is distraught at the prospect of the High Court snatching that barrow-load of cash away from him.

  208. Juan

    And for Juan:

    10 While Jesus was having dinner at Matthew’s house, many tax collectors and sinners came and ate with him and his disciples. 11 When the Pharisees saw this, they asked his disciples, “Why does your teacher eat with tax collectors and sinners?”

    12 On hearing this, Jesus said, “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. 13 But go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice.’ For I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.” Mt 9:10-13

    “And acknowledgement of God, not burnt offerings” says the rest of the verse Jesus quoted.

    Bruce, please tell me this is not your defence of George Christensen allegedly picking up a woman in a ‘bar’ in Angeles City. Please tell me you’re not suggesting Jesus would have done anything remotely similar to that!

  209. JC

    and your links don’t work. Hahahaha.

    Yea, one didn’t work, for the first time ever. Unlike yours, which often lead to gay porn sites by mistake of course.

    Learn to code, Cronkite,

  210. Bruce of Newcastle

    Oops, I missed out Mt 25:40:

    40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

  211. JC

    Leigh

    We know all about his motives, but was there anything in the trial that wasn’t public? That’s bullshit, right?

  212. Leigh Lowe

    Not smells……stinks….the lefty MSN hit job have been out to get Christensen for a long time.

    Christensen should simply ring Albo and tell him that he intends to stand up in Parliament on the first sitting day next year and name all those opposite that he believes have visited strip clubs, gay bath-houses, brothels, Thai rub-n-tug shops … hellooo … are you still there Albo ….

  213. MatrixTransform

    how many committed Christians do you know who go into ‘bars’ with …

    an appeal to incredulity … how quaint.

    …or did you actually count them?

  214. Zyconoclast

    Being from the BBC, they could have banned it as fake news

    General election 2019: Facebook bans Tory ad over BBC footage

    Facebook has deleted a Conservative election ad that used BBC News footage because it infringed the corporation’s intellectual property (IP) rights.
    The BBC said the material had been used out of context in a way that “could damage perceptions of our impartiality”.

  215. Leigh Lowe

    The MSM are all over Big George Christensen for visiting strip clubs.
    They showed a remarkable lack of curiosity about the exploits of one Mr Craig Thompson (MP, retired).

  216. Roger

    Bruce, please tell me this is not your defence of George Christensen allegedly picking up a woman in a ‘bar’ in Angeles City. Please tell me you’re not suggesting Jesus would have done anything remotely similar to that!

    Read the Gospels before you start pontificating here about WWJD, juan.

    Dostoevsky might also lead to some insights.

  217. cohenite

    Yea, one didn’t work, for the first time ever.

    Head prefect loses his cherry and is no longer virginal and pure. You’ll be a better person for it.

  218. Rex Mango

    Aileen Moreton-Robinson was on ABC RN yesterday – not really worth listening to, except for the scare factor that she is an academic preaching such rubbish – she bangs on about whiteness (how she managed to graduate in the first place a mystery) – what is funny is one of the comments on the ABC page by steve skinner and a reply below that, by Hamish, which I think is what Numbers uses on the ABC:

    steve skinner :
    01 Dec 2019 9:59:38pm

    Distinguished Professor of Indigenous Research Aileen Moreton-Robinson as a student found it difficult to deconstruct then categorize, as required by her university course. As a result she has come to believe that Western culture cannot grasp complexity. A false belief as Western culture obviously does.

    It discovered the links between all living things through the discovery of DNA and created the Science of Ecology. It also discovered the links between life as it is now and the life of the remote past, in the Sciences of Paleontology and Geology. These areas of knowledge, and many others such as Chemistry, Physics and Astronomy have been connected successfully in Western culture by Mathematics.

    There is even a word in Western culture for the belief that the parts of something are intimately interconnected and explicable only by reference to the whole. Holistic.

    That someone who is a research professor does not know this doesn’t surprise me. We live in a decadent age.

    She claims white people do not know they are white, in fact they are very well aware of it. It is thrown in their face continuously by the media and leftist academics. What she cannot grasp is the ability to see beyond race. To be a member of the Australian nation state and share in it’s commonwealth has no religious, gender, age or race requirement.

    That she could talk to people who she identified as white, presumably because of their skin colour, and then discover they didn’t know anything about their own culture, such as all the history, arts, sciences and philosophy created over the last two and a half thousand years is also no surprise.

    In fact it is to be expected in a decadent age.

    Reply Alert moderator

    Hamish :
    02 Dec 2019 8:39:06am

    That’s a very white take on the whole thing Steve.

    The defensiveness, meanness of spirit and intellectual bankruptcy with which white Australia regards indigenous Australia never ceases to amaze and appall me.

    https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/philosopherszone/tracks-of-thought/11745888

  219. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    scomo wants you to take a survey to help write their next
    taxpayer funded self-promoting advertising campaign:

    FIFY
    Interesting to note that immigration, which features highly in every survey conducted by reputable firms, doesn’t even crack a mention in ScoMo’s “survey”.

  220. Juan

    Bruce, please tell me this is not your defence of George Christensen allegedly picking up a woman in a ‘bar’ in Angeles City. Please tell me you’re not suggesting Jesus would have done anything remotely similar to that!

    Read the Gospels before you start pontificating here about WWJD, juan.

    I have read them.

    Have you?

    Can you please point me to where Jesus or the Apostles model behaviour like paying a “barfine, or early work release,” to take a scantily-clad woman from a ‘Filipino Sin-City’ bar?

  221. Ellie

    Nick – would you like to join me on the Q&A thread? I’m overseas right now, but can access the show on-line.

  222. Roger

    Interesting to note that immigration, which features highly in every survey conducted by reputable firms, doesn’t even crack a mention in ScoMo’s “survey”.

    I believe it was Baldrick who coined the phrase:

    SFLs.

  223. Nick

    Strange that Greens politicians, despite their liberal proclivities, never visit anywhere, ever.

  224. Roger

    I have read them.

    Maybe, but you clearly haven’t understood them.

  225. cohenite

    steve skinner :
    01 Dec 2019 9:59:38pm

    That is a very good precis of every thing which is what makes Western democracy the best society.

    The assault on the West by people like this Aileen Moreton-Robinson is a projection by losers -individuals, groups, other cultures and ideologies – of their inferiority. To bolster their pathetic nature they seek to destroy the culture which supports them. It’s a hideous hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance.

  226. Bruce of Newcastle

    Juan – If you don’t know the story of the lady of ill repute and the jar of perfume you should look it up.

    This is the message Fitzhankey didn’t hear: no Christian gives a fig if someone was gay, or a woman in a Philippines bar. They only wish for them to repent and believe in the Lord Jesus Christ.

    That goes for me and you also. Although I was never a lady in a Philippines bar. (There aren’t many 190cm 100kg bar ladies in the Philippines.)

    One of the more interesting stories is the ex-lesbian professor who read the Bible, believed, repented and married a guy. Awesome.

    Former Lesbian Turned Christian Tells the World About ‘The Secret Thoughts of an Unlikely Convert’ (2013)

    Brave lady.

  227. Rex Mango

    Media Watch as per usual attacking News Corp for publishing climate sceptic stories.

  228. Juan

    I have read them.

    Maybe, but you clearly haven’t understood them.

    Well as I said, if I’ve missed the key passage, please tell me where Jesus or the Apostles modelled behaviour such as … paying a “barfine, or early work release,” to take a scantily-clad woman from a ‘Filipino Sin-City’ bar to, most likely, their hotel for some ‘extra-curricular activities’?

    I really do hate repeating myself so a direct answer this time around would be appreciated.

  229. feelthebern

    Georgy-Boy!!
    Sly dogging it.

  230. Knuckle Dragger

    Juan,

    Fuck off.

    1. It’s ‘peccadillos’, not that backward flag-waving you just displayed.

    2. ‘So, Bruce, how many committed Christians do you know who go into ‘bars’ with a “barfine, or early work release,” on their pricelist’

    Christensen is a great big orca fat bastard, no question. Don’t know him. Probably loves a feed. But whose fucking business is it if he met his wife, who was a dancer, in a Filipino titty bar? She’s had plenty of time to fleece him since and hasn’t – which may also indicate he’s not stupid.

    What about this makes him not Christian? He may have been already married at the time he met her in a titty bar – I don’t know, although that would still come under the heading of not your fucking business.

    If they’re married, it would be quite fair for me to assert that they’re in love. Who are you to degrade that from a distance, based on a couple of newspaper reports that even if true go nowhere near the crux of the matter you’re getting at. We’re falling in love only in designated areas now?

    Are you the Christian Police? Jesus wept tears of rage, we’ve already gone through months of punters trying to out-Catholic each other here*. Who made you the arbiter of what’s okay or not okay for Christians to do? I had twelve years of Mick education and not once do I remember Jesus said not to go in titty bars.

    *Peter. PETER!

    I was wrong. The Catallaxy Committee for High Moral Standards is alive and well. I will not make the same mistake again.

  231. Geriatric Mayfly

    Media Watch as per usual attacking News Corp for publishing climate sceptic stories.

    This then must be the last gasp before the WEB of nigh on three months. There’s a headline in The Oz of toe-cutters at work in the ABC. No better place to start, than on Barry’s 11 little piggies.

  232. Rex Mango

    Re Christensen & Craig Thompson, is ole Craig still on the loose and if so has he paid all the money back?

  233. Knuckle Dragger

    Here’s an idea.

    The forward thinkers that wrote the New Testament might just have decided that they wouldn’t put the bit in where Jesus was a massive pants man, working his way through Judea like Lord Flashheart from BlackAdder.

    Don’t let human nature cloud your thinking though Juan. You just keep making notes in Juan’s Ledger of Good and Evil.

  234. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Medivac transfers leap as repeal bid looms

    EXCLUSIVE
    Joe Kelly
    Canberra Bureau Chief
    @joekellyoz
    Simon Benson
    National Affairs Editor
    4:18PM December 2, 2019
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    More than half the asylum-seekers and refugees in Papua New Guinea and Nauru have applied for transfer to Australia under controversial medivac laws, with a rush of applications lodged ­before a parliamentary vote to terminate the scheme.

    The fate of the medivac regime rests with Tasmanian Senate crossbencher Jacqui Lambie, who has refused to show her hand after making her support conditional on a secret ultimatum she has delivered to the government.

    One Nation leader Pauline Hanson has provided Home ­Affairs Minister Peter Dutton a personal assurance of her party’s support after last week delivering the Coalition a shock defeat over its union-busting bill.

    With the Coalition hoping to repeal the medivac laws as soon as Tuesday, The Australian can reveal there are 234 people being held offshore who have applied for transfer under the Labor and Greens-backed medivac laws.

    As of Monday night, there were 466 asylum-seekers and refugees held offshore — 208 on PNG and 258 on Nauru.

    They are at various stages of the approval process, with 63 having reapplied for a medical transfer after being rejected either by an independent health panel — which assesses claims under the scheme — or by Mr Dutton.

    The Australian can also reveal that, in the lead up to the Senate sitting week of November 11, Mr Dutton was forced to consider nearly 100 applications. Forty-seven were considered during the week of November 4, and 51 the following week.

    From the Oz.

  235. Zatara

    Actually won a spirited debate this morning with a climate change enthusiast.

    Was involved in an interesting war-game amongst old comrades a week or so ago.

    It was amazing how quickly a country that depends on widespread wind and solar generation can be slammed back into the dark ages by very cheap commando/j*h*d* actions.

  236. feelthebern

    Shaq rapping.
    Awesome.

  237. Geriatric Mayfly

    I had twelve years of Mick education and not once do I remember Jesus said not to go in titty bars.

    Was wondering if they had those back in old Jerusalem. Then I recalled a flagstone I saw on a footpath in the excavated part of Ephesus. Sure enough it pointed to a the local whore house, complete with an etched graphic of a purse, which indicated that such a visit would cost you. For those of prurient mien, (sorry those interested in ancient history), type Brothel Flagstone Ephesus in to Google and voila!

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